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Speaker 1: Here the skip the fine, take the dog away. Oh lord,

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Speaker 1: he's straight into her.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Darcy Hither Darcy water Grave, sports talk host. It's

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Speaker 1: just if it's quite the Hello.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wagging my tail.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing?

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Speaker 1: Really, you're coming with a lot of energy. Have you

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Speaker 1: had some like significant life changes or something that I've

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Speaker 1: been away?

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Speaker 2: No, I've always got this amount of energy, haven't I.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you have thought it might just I thought they

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Speaker 1: might be I thought I might have missed out on

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Speaker 1: something in the last three months.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's all the same. I'm okay, predictable in

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Speaker 2: my unpredictability. How about that.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see.

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Speaker 2: I'm still feeling great to have you back again.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it's doing goody good? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nice. How's Junior?

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Speaker 1: She's lovely, She does all the good things, sleeps, eats, popes, breathe, breathe,

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Speaker 1: hands still breathing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's constantly cute. So that's nice. Now we're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about sports, So tell me about Mark t Leo. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so when is he actually off to Japan?

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Speaker 2: Well, these are scarce at the moment, saying he's a

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Speaker 2: social media post up, which is right, I just showed

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Speaker 2: you it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool, very cool.

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Speaker 2: Little little cartoons you know, anime. Yeah it is anim

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Speaker 2: isn't it. It's very modern of you, you know. Him

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Speaker 2: and his Blues jumper holding up the Super Rugby Pacific Trophy.

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Speaker 2: Him and his North Harbor top m in an all

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Speaker 2: Blacks top as well. It's been an amazing ride at

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Speaker 2: so many fantastic memories, he writes, amazing people. But after

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Speaker 2: much thought, I've decided from next year I will play

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Speaker 2: my rugby in Japan. Thanks to fellow players, coaches, administrators

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Speaker 2: and fans for making the past years so special. It

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Speaker 2: has been grateful and blessed for the journey. But I'm

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Speaker 2: on to the next chapter now. Apparently it's toy It

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Speaker 2: of a Blitz, which is where Steve Hansen is and

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Speaker 2: Ian Foster. You can't understand maybe why he went there

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Speaker 2: and with it a three year deal supposed and it

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Speaker 2: will be worth a ton. He's twenty eight, which is

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Speaker 2: the traditional age that all Black wingers fall off the cliff.

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Speaker 2: They tend to not get any better. But he's a

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Speaker 2: really late developer, so he may well be missed. But

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Speaker 2: then you look across the landscape and go, well, there

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Speaker 2: a wingers. Ever shake a tree, one will fall out.

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Speaker 2: Not quite sure what size or speed or whatever he'll be,

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Speaker 2: but it will be there. So the debate here, and

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Speaker 2: it's changes for every player. Do you keep him this

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Speaker 2: year or do you just go you're not loyal to

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Speaker 2: us anymore? Off you go, We're going to get someone

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Speaker 2: else in the fold.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so use this as as a development year for

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Speaker 1: somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say development year because you've got a

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Speaker 2: World Cup coming out, but you're not an all black. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to develop right, Yeah, you've got to be a sharp play.

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Speaker 2: But it gives space for someone to come into that

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Speaker 2: place and go, look, tell he's a great players, wonderful

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Speaker 2: guy to play, to watch play, He's got so much

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Speaker 2: talent about him. But is he good enough to insist

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Speaker 2: having here even though we're losing his intellect and ability?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it feels to me like one thing

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Speaker 1: that Razor would have to consider is his own his

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Speaker 1: own record, right, which has not been convincing to everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So he will want to get a fair few wins

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Speaker 1: under his belt this season, and if that means that

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Speaker 1: he has to have the be skis on the squad,

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Speaker 1: including Mark Lear. He should do that, shouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you will or not. He's

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Speaker 2: not exactly been picking Blues players left, right and center, though,

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Speaker 2: has he. There's been a number of Blues players that

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Speaker 2: have gone. You know, when there's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: whole somewhere, we need someone. Get Shaye Hockey. Oh, we

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Speaker 2: get someone. I know a guy from Canterbury and he

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Speaker 2: knows these players, so you get that. But it seems

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Speaker 2: to be leaning a wee bit red and black. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if this has got anything to do with

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Speaker 2: Mark Tele's decision. I doubt it does. I tried to

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Speaker 2: get him on but he said no, not directly to me,

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Speaker 2: THROUGHUS media manager understanding its particularly like talking to me.

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Speaker 2: It's a shame because he's a good buggy. It's really

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Speaker 2: good to talk to. I really enjoy it. And then

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Speaker 2: I rang up to it. Let's you needn't want a

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Speaker 2: word note No, it was a text, you know, call

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Speaker 2: me toward the end of the week. And what I

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Speaker 2: think it is is that they're quite stripped around releasing

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Speaker 2: information like this. Notice that when you're dealing with Japanese

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Speaker 2: rugby clubs unless it's all official. No want to say

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Speaker 2: anything about anything until it's all been t crossed and

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Speaker 2: I dotted underline xerox and cent to four hundred people. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: then they'll talk.

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Speaker 1: About so dars, thank you very much Forrgeant Leam maybe to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it tonight on the show anyways, because he

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Speaker 2: knows more about the ins and outs of the possible

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Speaker 2: replacements for that side as well. Lovely to have you back, mummy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dark. It's a bit weird you calling me mummy

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Speaker 1: the first time today, is it? Darcy water Grave, sports

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