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Speaker 1: The Greens are having a crack at compulsory microchipping for

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Speaker 1: all domestic cats. Green and p Cilia Wade Brown is

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Speaker 1: proposing a new law that would force every cat owner

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Speaker 1: to microchip their cat and register it in a national

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Speaker 1: Register of domestic Cats. However, the bill doesn't include making

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Speaker 1: D six in compulsory. Green party in p Cillya Wade

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Speaker 1: Brown is with me. Now, Hello, good afternoon, Ryan, How

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Speaker 1: are you very well? Thank you? How difficult do you

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be to microchip all domestic cats?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think about half of people's pets are already microchipped,

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Speaker 2: and we want to make sure that all of them

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Speaker 2: can be reunited with their owners.

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Speaker 1: And why aren't you including compulsory D six ing, Well.

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Speaker 2: About eighty eight percent of cats are already defixed, So

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Speaker 2: we think it's important that the second half of cats

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Speaker 2: that aren't microchipped and registered that that's our priority. That's

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Speaker 2: going to improve welfare because they'll be reunited and it

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Speaker 2: will also decrease the number of strays that become ferrals

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Speaker 2: and are a big problem for our wonderful, unique wildlife.

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Speaker 1: But why not make it compulsory to D six and

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Speaker 1: so they don't keep procreating and causing more problems.

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Speaker 2: Many people do desect their cats already, but what about

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Speaker 2: god free chips. That's only twelve percent of the total.

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Speaker 2: And we think about breed life very unifications.

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Speaker 1: Breed like rabbits, don't they cats?

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Speaker 2: Certainly, uncontrolled breeding can cause problems, and there are far

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Speaker 2: too many feral cats. This bill is a step towards

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Speaker 2: producing the number of cats.

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Speaker 1: Why, certainly, why take one stick when you can take two?

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Speaker 1: I mean, why leave why leave the gate open to

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Speaker 1: twelve percent? Gate open to feral breeding.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that would like

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Speaker 2: to consider whether we do compulsory desexing, and that may

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Speaker 2: when I get the bill to Select Committee. The first

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Speaker 2: step is to get this bill to Select Committee so

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Speaker 2: that we can hear the public's views, the experts views,

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Speaker 2: the animal welfare people in more detail. I've been working

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Speaker 2: with animal welfare people and conservation groups, and you're right,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that are interested in

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Speaker 2: cats being desex It's a bit more complex. You need

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Speaker 2: a breeder's register, and it's just a step too far

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Speaker 2: for a private members bill, a members film.

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Speaker 1: What happens to all the stray cats when they aren't microchipped.

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends what the councils or other organizations are

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Speaker 2: already doing. I mean feral cats in the middle of

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Speaker 2: Fiordland where you're not allowed to have cats anyway. That

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Speaker 2: will continue with the whatever trapping procedures that they're using

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Speaker 2: at the moment, But there's some new technology with live

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Speaker 2: traps that they won't even go off if it's a

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Speaker 2: domestic cat, and also if it's a life up where

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Speaker 2: it's difficult to know near people's houses there are cat's

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Speaker 2: a pet cat or a feral cat, and so having

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Speaker 2: the micro chip will make it much easier to return

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Speaker 2: them home.

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Speaker 1: We should bring back those competitions where they shoot the

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Speaker 1: fieral ones. Do you like those?

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Speaker 2: I think that the Mirror Mar Peninsula that would be

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Speaker 2: much better off with live traps.

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Speaker 1: You yeah, me, Wire and Mirror Mar, I suppose. But

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Speaker 1: you know, in the rural areas you're all on board

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Speaker 1: with them, you know, shooting them.

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Speaker 2: Well, the rural communities have been doing a fantastic job

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Speaker 2: in the catchment communities of bringing that wildlife and they

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Speaker 2: don't want to harm their neighbors pet cats either. So

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Speaker 2: we'll just see horses for courses, rural and town and

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Speaker 2: city and wild field landage.

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Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard seally because because it's because you're

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Speaker 1: a you're a greenient pea, and you can't say shoot cats,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, even though you might want to.

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Speaker 2: I think the green MP's have pretty keen on our

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Speaker 2: overall commitment to both climate protection and nature protection, and

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Speaker 2: this is one step towards protecting nature with some added

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Speaker 2: benefits for petcats.

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Speaker 1: All right, I can get on your Celia, Cilia around

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Speaker 1: Green imp is sixteen to six

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