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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks AB.

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Speaker 2: I love this show. I love this job Jack. I've

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Speaker 2: been to Diego Garcia. How about that top of the text, Jack,

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Speaker 2: I've been to Diego Garcia, albeit in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the night on a refueling stop, so pretty much in

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Speaker 2: my view, it was a typical US military base in

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Speaker 2: the middle of what seemed like a US town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still want to know more, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you haven't been lucky enough to see all parts

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Speaker 2: of Diego Garcia. I think it's like the if you

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Speaker 2: to drive around the whole atoll, it's about forty killing meters.

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Speaker 2: They reckon that it has some of the cleanest waters

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Speaker 2: in some of the coral reefs that are in best

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Speaker 2: condition on the planet in Diego Garcia. So still that

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Speaker 2: is that is remarkable. So thank you very much for that, Jack.

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Speaker 2: Maps are dying out. That being said, I love like

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Speaker 2: you browsing New Zealand maps. Yeah, I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 2: totally sure they're doing it. There's some some maps are

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Speaker 2: probably dying out right. Rod says he wants he's a

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Speaker 2: similar wonder lust. He wants to sit on a rock

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Speaker 2: paddling his feet in Tierra del Fuego, the in spot

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Speaker 2: of South America. Making plans is right. Thank you. Ninety

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Speaker 2: two ninety two is our text number. Kevin Milne is

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Speaker 2: all with us this morning killed her.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jack, you've got to go to the Jaego. You've

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Speaker 3: got to be the fourth journalist. I just you've got

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Speaker 3: to do a documentary.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? I just I can't. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's a case of just simply like emailing the

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Speaker 2: UK Foreign Office or indeed Mauritius and saying, hey, I'm Jack,

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Speaker 2: I'm from New Zealand. I want to come to Diego Garcia.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily gonna.

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Speaker 3: You've got some remarkable contacts.

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Speaker 2: Around the place, not that remarkable, do you know, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I did. I did once I was I was fortunate enough,

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Speaker 2: if that's the right term. I did go to Guantanamo

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Speaker 2: Bay with the military base at the end of Cuba, right,

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Speaker 2: and so I being to Cuba as a tourist, but

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Speaker 2: to go to the to go to Guantanamo Bay requires

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Speaker 2: a lot of paperwork and negotiations and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: That complicated enough. But there are gazillions of journalists who

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Speaker 2: have been able to go to Guantanamobay, and yeah, only

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Speaker 2: three apparently have made it to Diego Garcia over the.

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Speaker 3: Got that little sort of four runner that you gave

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Speaker 3: us before, was the script for you for the first

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Speaker 3: minute of your documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe what I will do as I

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Speaker 2: will there is this this BBC reporter who has been

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Speaker 2: there recently and we had all these restrictions on a

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Speaker 2: reporting and what you could see and do and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So what I'll do is I'm going to put that

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Speaker 2: on our Facebook page so people can see it, because

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not the only one who, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes fantasizes about reaching these remote parts of the earth.

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Speaker 2: But Kevin, you've been turning your attention to something else

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Speaker 2: this week. You've been running your eye over the latest

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Speaker 2: census results.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's almost interesting the census. I imagine that

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Speaker 3: you yourself would be a keen reader of census results. Ah,

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Speaker 3: A bit like that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely love it. Love a lot of data dumped from

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Speaker 2: Statistics New Zealand. Nothing or excited.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised that Wellington's cities has the largest proportion

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Speaker 3: of the rainbow community than anywhere else. Wellington's just that

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Speaker 3: sort of place, isn't it. I'd say it's the most

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Speaker 3: liberal city in the country and the most creative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was supposed to find Auckland city so far

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Speaker 3: down on that list. There's a higher proportion of rainbow

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Speaker 3: that's because Auckland now has a huge non European New

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Speaker 3: Zealand community, and the rainbow community remains, I think more

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Speaker 3: hidden in those non European communities. Only half the people

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Speaker 3: living in Auckland, our biggest city, now identify as New

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Speaker 3: Zealand European. I find that a fantastic statistic. Really, more

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Speaker 3: Indians than Chinese now in New Zealand. It's going to

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Speaker 3: help our cricket. The Filipino population has gone up thirty

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Speaker 3: five thousand senses hopefully that means more wonderful nurses than

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Speaker 3: our hospital and our care facilities. Gisbon now got more

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Speaker 3: people identifying as Maori than New Zealand European fifty five

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Speaker 3: percent May fifty two percent European. I found that interesting

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Speaker 3: and I see there are more Greeks in Wellington than

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Speaker 3: anywhere else in the country. That may have always been

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Speaker 3: the case, which makes you wonder why it's so hard

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Speaker 3: to find a Greek restaurant in well Two thirds of

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Speaker 3: all New Zealand homes now have heat pumps. We should

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Speaker 3: have got out of the media jack and into heat pumps.

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Speaker 3: That was the business get into. I see in Auckland

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Speaker 3: heat pumps have finally caught on, from thirty nine percent

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Speaker 3: of all homes in twenty and eighteen to sixty six

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Speaker 3: percent now. Now is that because your old fashion and

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Speaker 3: open fires have been banned or because the weather's getting worse?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Over half of New Zealand's population has

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Speaker 3: no religion. Given our population has recently seen large influxes

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Speaker 3: of non European New Zealanders very committed to religion, I

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Speaker 3: think it'd be interesting to know how many European New

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Speaker 3: Zealanders European New Zealanders have no religion. I reckon it'd

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Speaker 3: be far more than half. Finally, cigarettes makings half since

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Speaker 3: two thousand and thirteen, lobbyists and health professionals take a

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Speaker 3: bow time now surely got the squeeze on alcohol. You'll

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Speaker 3: agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've long seen I think our attitudes

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Speaker 2: towards alcohol could still do with some improvement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The fascinating numbers. Ah, Kevin, there's one little data point

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Speaker 2: you haven't included there I was interested by. There are

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Speaker 2: still thirty one percent of New Zealand homes have a landline. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: although on the Chathams it's more than seventy percent, because

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Speaker 2: which kind of makes sense. I can imagine there are

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Speaker 2: a few dead spots of cell phones on the Chathams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there'll all be people my age, aren't they

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Speaker 3: with the old still with the landline? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I found every now and again I wish we still

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Speaker 3: had one, to be honest, do you, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They're a lovely item. Really, I've still got am a

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Speaker 3: garage and I sold what do they call them, rotary?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Kids don't even know where to put the receiver down

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm not that confident that I could

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Speaker 2: use one a bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a change. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, those are remarkable numbers, and I love that the

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Speaker 2: Census has, you know, information on all those little points,

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Speaker 2: because it really does describe a change in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: was also interested that there are I think almost twice

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Speaker 2: as many people who identify as Hindu as do Muslim

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, which so tells you so about something

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Speaker 2: about the demographics. Which, yeah, even though we are less

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Speaker 2: Like you say, it probably paints a picture of a

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Speaker 2: more diverse New Zealand. So thank you, Kevin. Kevin Milner

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Speaker 2: with us there. Thank you very much for your feedback. Jack.

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Speaker 2: I remember a nineteen nineties EV report on Diego Garcia.

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Speaker 2: The TV crew has led to a row of B

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Speaker 2: fifty two bombers on the runway. Then deadpan, the American

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Speaker 2: Military guide said, if the engines ever start up, the

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Speaker 2: world is in serious trouble. Dave has flipped me an email, Jack,

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Speaker 2: I'm listening from Queensland on iHeart this morning. Good hey, Dave,

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Speaker 2: thank you for that reed Diego Garcia. I'm ex Royal

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Navy. I've stopped there twice in my career

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Speaker 2: for refueling stops. Can't remember much about it. Both times

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Speaker 2: I was standing see emergency party, so we weren't allowed ashore.

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Speaker 2: Un lesst We've got a stand in but guys would

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Speaker 2: do PT presume that means physical training and go to

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Speaker 2: the US military shop, says Dave. This is it found

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Speaker 2: a solution. My solution is not to not to go

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Speaker 2: as a journalist, not to go as a tourist. My

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Speaker 2: solution is to join the Royal News Young Navy and

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Speaker 2: hope that at some point we go there on a

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Speaker 2: refueling stop. That is fascinating ninety two ninety two. If

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