Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks it by helping you get those
Speaker 1: DIY projects done right. The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighteen eighty Youth Talk said.
Speaker 2: Bizz, even when it's dark, even in the grass is
Speaker 2: overgrown in the yard, even when it doug is too
Speaker 2: old to bar, and when we're sitting at the table
Speaker 2: trying not to starve.
Speaker 3: Sissor even when we are ben even when you're therell.
Speaker 4: Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the show.
Speaker 4: My name is Pete wolf Camp. This is the Resident
Speaker 4: Builder on and we are here to talk about all
Speaker 4: things building construction, the rules, the regulations, the practical, the
Speaker 4: know how, the tips and tricks let's say, generated in
Speaker 4: part from you as the listener, because people do learn
Speaker 4: from you when you're talking about the dilemmas that you have.
Speaker 4: I had a couple of conversations during the course of
Speaker 4: the week and people are going, actually I enjoy the
Speaker 4: show because I learned something. When if you've got an
Speaker 4: issue with waterproofing, you've got an issue with straightening the
Speaker 4: boundary fence, if whatever, people will learn from that. So
Speaker 4: thank you. For your contribution, and I look forward to
Speaker 4: hearing from you today on the show, we can talk
Speaker 4: all things building, construction, renovating, home maintenance. You know, we've
Speaker 4: had another bout of heavy weather, and certainly not a
Speaker 4: lot is going to prepare you if you know the
Speaker 4: stream nearby floods and inundates the house. But there are
Speaker 4: also and inevitably when you go and look at houses
Speaker 4: perhaps that have had and talking to someone today again
Speaker 4: or the other day, had that heavy range during the
Speaker 4: course of the week, discovered a leak, You go and
Speaker 4: investigate a little bit and find that actually the flashing
Speaker 4: wasn't securely fastened down, or perhaps the catchpit hadn't been
Speaker 4: cleaned out for a period of time. So as soon
Speaker 4: as that more than a little bit of rain arrives,
Speaker 4: the catch pit overwhelms, sends the water down the driveway,
Speaker 4: that pushes it underneath the house, and suddenly the back
Speaker 4: door jams because the piles got wet. You know, these
Speaker 4: things are all connected. So we're joining the dots on
Speaker 4: the show in a sense today, taking your calls, your questions,
Speaker 4: your queries, and I wouldn't mind putting out there just
Speaker 4: a bit of a public service announcement, but also something
Speaker 4: that we've talked about. If I think about our theme
Speaker 4: of the show over the last four or five years,
Speaker 4: the Healthy Home Standards has been part of it. I
Speaker 4: mean the legislation was announced. Gosh, it would have to
Speaker 4: be like two ty seventeen twenty eighteen initially that this
Speaker 4: was going to come in. When I say Healthy Home Standards,
Speaker 4: we're talking about the rules and regulations. I was about
Speaker 4: to say new, but they're raally not that new, given
Speaker 4: how long we've been talking about them. That ensure that
Speaker 4: rental properties for people who are renters are of a
Speaker 4: suitable standard that they keep you warm. So you need
Speaker 4: to fixed form of heating that they if you heat it,
Speaker 4: the heat stays in. So where possible, insulation needed to
Speaker 4: be installed in the underfloor and in the roof space.
Speaker 4: If you've got some heat and you've got some insulation,
Speaker 4: then you want to make sure that the drafts don't
Speaker 4: diminish the performance of that. So draft proofing, we've got
Speaker 4: rules around weather tightness and science. There's a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of legislation there to ensure that rental properties are of
Speaker 4: a reasonable standard. Funny thing is, of course that many
Speaker 4: new homes wouldn't actually comply with the Healthy Home standards.
Speaker 4: So we've talked about it for a long time. We've
Speaker 4: had various experts on the show. We've discussed it all
Speaker 4: with a view that one day it'll be law and
Speaker 4: there will be no exceptions, there will be no extensions,
Speaker 4: there will be no more time to get properties up
Speaker 4: to scratch. And as it happens, that day is Tuesday.
Speaker 4: So on Tuesday, the first of July, all New Zealand
Speaker 4: rental properties will need to comply with the Healthy Homes legislation.
Speaker 4: So in the past and the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: if it didn't comply, as a landlord, you had ninety
Speaker 4: days from the beginning of a new tenancy, so if
Speaker 4: you had a long term sitting tenant, you were kind
Speaker 4: of off the hook for a little while. Well, all
Speaker 4: of those exceptions, as to the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 4: have all gone, So Tuesday is the day. A little
Speaker 4: later on, I want to just share with you a
Speaker 4: bit of a story and a it sounds a bit extravagant,
Speaker 4: but an investigation, I guess or a piece of research, no,
Speaker 4: not even research, an investigation that I've been part of
Speaker 4: which has raised some real issues around the tool that
Speaker 4: we might use to determine the heating standards. The online tool.
Speaker 4: It's available through the Tendency website. When it comes to apartments. Anyway,
Speaker 4: we'll go into that a little bit later on. Right now,
Speaker 4: i'd like to hear from you if you've got a question,
Speaker 4: if you've got a ponderance, a musing an inquiry about
Speaker 4: anything to do with your place, whether you own it,
Speaker 4: whether you rent it, whether you've been there for a
Speaker 4: long time, or perhaps you've just moved in and discovered that, oh,
Speaker 4: actually it's not performing quite as well as I thought
Speaker 4: it was going to. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 4: is the number to call. You can text as well,
Speaker 4: that's nine two nine two or zbzb from your mobile phone,
Speaker 4: and of course you can email me. It's Pete at
Speaker 4: Newstooksib dot co dot nz so Pete p E t
Speaker 4: E at newstook Sib dot Co dot e so. As
Speaker 4: we approach craiky the middle of the year, first of
Speaker 4: July is also halfway through the year. If you're like me,
Speaker 4: you're probably thinking, I thought I would have got a
Speaker 4: lot more done this year in terms of those projects
Speaker 4: that I wanted to get done around the house where
Speaker 4: it's not helping at the moment for those exterior jobs.
Speaker 4: Other stuff kind of gets in the way. But if
Speaker 4: you're working away on some projects, you want to talk
Speaker 4: about them, you want to ask some questions, you want
Speaker 4: to check that you're heading in the right direction. We
Speaker 4: can talk about all these things and we'll probably end
Speaker 4: up talking about something that I wouldn't have expected on
Speaker 4: the show today. So if you've got a tricky question,
Speaker 4: a dilemma that's been rumbling around the back of the
Speaker 4: head going I don't know how I'm going to fix that,
Speaker 4: give me a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 4: call now. Inevitably we get busy later on in the show,
Speaker 4: so now it's a great time to call. The lines
Speaker 4: are free. I'm still fresh and enthusiastic when out last
Speaker 4: night to a great play musical on at the ALTAA Center,
Speaker 4: which was awesome. So feeling good, looking forward to your calls.
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Call me out meat.
Speaker 1: Twice God was but maybe called Pete first. D you Walcab,
Speaker 1: the resident builder. News Talk said be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, News Talk, sa'd be coming up. It is actually
Speaker 4: sixteen minutes after six, so the lines are open. The
Speaker 4: number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty quick text
Speaker 4: before we go to Richie, what's your opinion? Says due
Speaker 4: of using ground screws to build a new deck on
Speaker 4: a flat site instead of the traditional method for foundations
Speaker 4: will be a lot cheaper. And I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: that's a question or a statement on your parts due
Speaker 4: opinion of using ground scows. I actually think it's a
Speaker 4: really really useful suggestion and a and a really useful
Speaker 4: sort of solution to what has been the conventional manner,
Speaker 4: which is, you know, you go out to build a deck,
Speaker 4: you figure out where your piles need to do need
Speaker 4: to be. You then dig down minimum sort of four hundred,
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty square down until you hit well
Speaker 4: into the clay. So you want to be a minimum
Speaker 4: of four hundred and fifty in the ground. You've got
Speaker 4: to then take that spoil which doubles in size when
Speaker 4: you dig it out. You've got to get rid of
Speaker 4: that somewhere. Then you're going to get the posts. You
Speaker 4: can stand the post up. You're going to either if
Speaker 4: you've got a big enough job, you might phone up
Speaker 4: and get some Readymax otherwise you're going to buy some bags,
Speaker 4: or you're going to buy some builders mix some BM
Speaker 4: twenty and some cement and mix that either in a
Speaker 4: mixer or in a wheelbarrow, et cetera, et cetera, versus
Speaker 4: someone coming and putting those piles, those screw piles in
Speaker 4: place for you, setting them up neatly to the right
Speaker 4: height that you can simply bolt the bearer straight to
Speaker 4: the top of it, and then you're building. So you've
Speaker 4: got nothing to take away, nothing to bring in, just
Speaker 4: the screw piles. So yeah, I would seriously consider it.
Speaker 4: I've been watching a renovation that a made of mine's
Speaker 4: doing around the corner. He's the chippy acting for the
Speaker 4: owners and an existing sort of nineteen fifties house with
Speaker 4: a lot of work happening on the nineteen fifties part
Speaker 4: of the building, but a new extension at the back
Speaker 4: of probably about i don't know, five by five, so
Speaker 4: not massive two story, all on screw piles. The benefit
Speaker 4: there was probably would have been quite difficult to get
Speaker 4: a digger in, quite difficult to get equipment in, quite
Speaker 4: difficult to get spoil out, and then getting concrete pump.
Speaker 4: I mean you can pump to almost anywhere that's that's doable,
Speaker 4: but again tricky driveway. So yeah, depending on the site,
Speaker 4: I'd certainly consider it absolutely. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Let me grab the
Speaker 4: mouse and Richie, what's going on? How can I help?
Speaker 4: How you going, kay, Richie?
Speaker 5: I'm well, yeah, great.
Speaker 6: We recently moved into a sort of renovated bungalow at
Speaker 6: christ Church and where there was an extension room put
Speaker 6: on years ago. There was a leak in through the roof,
Speaker 6: like quite a flat roof surface and in behind one
Speaker 6: of the walls. Now we pretty confident we've got to
Speaker 6: the bottom of it. We've had a few people expert
Speaker 6: in to sort it. There was a wee bit of damage,
Speaker 6: you know, just from the moisture and mold and things
Speaker 6: like that, which I feel cleaned probably eighty nine looking great.
Speaker 6: It's just how long before we put the jib wall
Speaker 6: back on. I'm a bit nervous to cover it up.
Speaker 6: Obviously right, perfectly dry, but how dry is dry? And
Speaker 6: how long would you suggest we wait to be sure
Speaker 6: we've got on top of the leak.
Speaker 4: Well, I suppose until the next big storm. So you
Speaker 4: know if you were, well, if you're top of the
Speaker 4: South Island in Auckland, that sort of thing. Actually, most
Speaker 4: of the country got lashed over the last few days,
Speaker 4: chances are if it didn't leak now, And in fact,
Speaker 4: I was out yesterday having coffee and the person I
Speaker 4: was with went, you know, you know that flat roof
Speaker 4: at my place, Well, it started leaking during the week.
Speaker 4: So I think if you had a decent amount of
Speaker 4: rain over the last week or so and leak, then
Speaker 4: I think you can be reasonably assured that it'll be
Speaker 4: okay in terms of moisture content. So if you're doing
Speaker 4: a new build or any work with a building content,
Speaker 4: the councilor will come and inspect the moisture content of
Speaker 4: the framing prior to lining, and typically they're looking for
Speaker 4: about eighteen percent. Now, not many people have moisture testers.
Speaker 4: They're actually quite cheap. Funnily enough, years ago, I tell
Speaker 4: you I bought one off trade me right, and I
Speaker 4: think it cost me the grand total of about nineteen
Speaker 4: dollars fifty for this moisture tester. You know, two prongs
Speaker 4: on it. You just poke it into the timber, press
Speaker 4: the button and it tells you what the moisture content is,
Speaker 4: and I thought, just as an indicative tool, that could
Speaker 4: be quite useful, right, so ahead, because typically the building
Speaker 4: inspector comes out, they've got very you know, high quality
Speaker 4: equipment that they need to get calibrated, I believe every
Speaker 4: three to six months to keep up to date. And
Speaker 4: those tools cost about twelve hundred bucks, right, so I'm thinking, actually,
Speaker 4: this will be interesting. So I get my nineteen dollars
Speaker 4: fifty trade me moisture tester, go round and test record
Speaker 4: the readings and then followed the inspector around afterwards. And
Speaker 4: I was within zero point five of a percent. So anyway,
Speaker 4: if you had one of those and you tested the
Speaker 4: timber and the timber was somewhere around the eighteen percent
Speaker 4: moisture content, then you're happy. I'd be happy with that.
Speaker 4: And the idea is that that below that it's unlikely
Speaker 4: to have the conditions to generate mold growth. Right, so
Speaker 4: you need a certain amount of dampness in the timber.
Speaker 4: Once you encapsulate that it's less likely to dry out.
Speaker 4: So we want the timber to be really dry when
Speaker 4: we're lining. So if you've got a mate who's got
Speaker 4: one test it if it's about eighteen percent. You're fine,
Speaker 4: all right. In that area that was exposed and that
Speaker 4: that got wet, did you notice some mold growth? Yes, okay,
Speaker 4: and you've treated that with something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, clean, that treated it. Yeah, yes, it's almost all gone.
Speaker 6: You like, it's to a point where, yeah, you can
Speaker 6: see you can sort of see signs of it, but
Speaker 6: it's it's clean and dry in my mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. I mean, if you want to take a
Speaker 4: real belt embracest approach, the other thing to do, because
Speaker 4: is that timber the old original timber so nineteen thirties
Speaker 4: for bungalow, or is it more modern timber.
Speaker 6: It's no, most of the timber there's new. I can redone,
Speaker 6: and it's more mold on the back of lining of
Speaker 6: a wall behind the shore. It was sort of like
Speaker 6: the backside of some waterproof cub Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So again, if you were able to test it,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't test the face that you're lining. You try
Speaker 4: and get the tester in at the back and see
Speaker 4: whether that moisture content where the timber is touching the
Speaker 4: old lining has actually dropped out.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, all right, good.
Speaker 1: Luck with that.
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's sorted all the best. Take care Richie by
Speaker 4: oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. Hello, Susie, Well,
Speaker 4: good morning, How are you very well?
Speaker 8: Thank you and you good great early early Sunday morning.
Speaker 4: Sure as how can I help?
Speaker 8: We had a we had a fence, a pung of
Speaker 8: fence that over when we when we had the very
Speaker 8: heavy rain a couple of days ago. It's fallen over
Speaker 8: onto outside of the property. We've had quite a few
Speaker 8: issues with the fence and the fence line with the neighbors,
Speaker 8: and we're just wondering whether this is a fence falling
Speaker 8: overnight that is something that we would be covered by
Speaker 8: insurance or not.
Speaker 4: Look, I have to say, I mean when you say
Speaker 4: a pung of fence is this it brings back memories.
Speaker 4: We had one at home. It was like, I don't
Speaker 4: know where we even got the pun of logs from,
Speaker 4: but the idea was that you kind of just dug
Speaker 4: a trench, stood them upright, and packed the soil around it,
Speaker 4: and hey, presto. These fence incredibly sustainable, you know, in
Speaker 4: the sense that you're harvesting something from the forest. There's
Speaker 4: no concrete there, but that by the by, yeah, but
Speaker 4: in terms of you know, is that a fence that
Speaker 4: would let's say, be part of the Fencing Act. No,
Speaker 4: it's not. And would they be particularly long lasting? Probably
Speaker 4: not either. I would have thought so if the yours
Speaker 4: has fallen over, maybe that's the end of its life span.
Speaker 4: And I wonder whether if you went to the insurance
Speaker 4: and explained what type of fence you had, the insurer
Speaker 4: might say, well, actually, you know what, it probably is
Speaker 4: at the end of its life and just got a
Speaker 4: helping hand by the recent rain.
Speaker 9: Probably.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 8: The other thing is my husband is sort of wondering
Speaker 8: if the fence is on the boundary or is within
Speaker 8: the neighbors who's responsible for it. It's like, if it's
Speaker 8: on the boundary, we're both responsible. If it's actually within
Speaker 8: the neighbors section, is it their responsibility.
Speaker 4: That's how I would see it. You know, typically, if
Speaker 4: we're doing a fence, we determine the boundary first, and
Speaker 4: in some instances that's not that easy, right, if there's
Speaker 4: no boundary markets then how do you know without getting
Speaker 4: a survey? And then you know, conventional sort of wisdom
Speaker 4: would be, if we take the stringline, we make that
Speaker 4: the center of the post and then we build the
Speaker 4: fence there and then effectively it's shared. So if you
Speaker 4: do happen to know where the boundary is and you
Speaker 4: can determine that, and then if it's solely on your property,
Speaker 4: then I would say that that's solely your responsibility. If
Speaker 4: it's solely on the neighbors, then I think it becomes
Speaker 4: their responsibility. And hopefully that you would go to their
Speaker 4: insurer or they would go to their insuran in order
Speaker 4: to have it repaired.
Speaker 8: And that information will be held with counsel.
Speaker 4: No, no, sorry to be so blunt. No, council unlikely
Speaker 4: to have any information at all about the fence. They
Speaker 4: will have information about the market section size. So in
Speaker 4: some cases and it as all of those files around
Speaker 4: surveying and so on get transferred across to a more
Speaker 4: digital format, the information held is much more precise. But
Speaker 4: you might find, for example, that at one end of
Speaker 4: your section you've actually got a boundary marker. You can
Speaker 4: go to the property file, find what the the distance
Speaker 4: of your property is from the file and then measure
Speaker 4: from there across and that will give you a good
Speaker 4: idea of where it is. But in the end, unless
Speaker 4: you've actually got a boundary marker or a survey peg.
Speaker 4: No one's ever completely sure like to the millimeter where
Speaker 4: the boundary actually is. The only way to get that
Speaker 4: done if it's not there is to get a surveyor.
Speaker 8: And what do the boundary markets actually look like?
Speaker 4: Typically there's two sorts of well two or three that
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with. One is a bit of three B two,
Speaker 4: so seventy five x fifty. It's white with a very
Speaker 4: sharp point in it. It'll be driven into the ground,
Speaker 4: and then on top of it it'll have a nail.
Speaker 4: That's what you're often looking for, and they're the ones
Speaker 4: that you see quite a bit. There is now, I
Speaker 4: think a PVC boundary marker, which can be put in
Speaker 4: as well. Not as common. The other thing is sometimes
Speaker 4: I like, you know, if you want to build a
Speaker 4: fence on the boundary and there's a boundary marker there,
Speaker 4: a surveyor might come remove that marker. You put the
Speaker 4: fence posts in the right place, and then they come
Speaker 4: back and put like a little aluminum disc that's about
Speaker 4: thirty millimeters in diameter, and they'll fix that to the ground,
Speaker 4: or they'll fix it to the top of a fence
Speaker 4: post or something. Like that to indicate where the boundary is.
Speaker 4: So that's what you're looking for, all.
Speaker 8: Right, great, okay, love, thank you, all right.
Speaker 4: Take care, Thank you very much. We might take a
Speaker 4: short break and we'll come back to Danny in a moment.
Speaker 4: I want to deal with this one after the break
Speaker 4: as well. Text that's come through Part one, Morning Pete,
Speaker 4: our house has an issue with heat. In summer it
Speaker 4: can be well over forty degrees and in winter we
Speaker 4: struggle to get it to twenty. It's a new build
Speaker 4: relocated to site in twenty nineteen. Part two. One side
Speaker 4: of the house is nearly all ranch sliders or big
Speaker 4: sliding windows. This side is we're facing short of moving
Speaker 4: the house. Is there any other solution to managing the
Speaker 4: heating and calling good news? Is there is? Stand by, folks.
Speaker 4: We'll be back after the.
Speaker 1: Break doing other house sorting the garden. Asked Pete for
Speaker 1: a hand. The resident builder with peta wolfcap call oh
Speaker 1: eight news dogs'd.
Speaker 4: Be indeed, newsbalks'd be. We're talking all things building construction.
Speaker 4: We will come to that tech shortly. But Danny, good
Speaker 4: morning to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, morning peatoday, send a veluminium joinery, some external doors
Speaker 5: from a bedroom in sidelight, and we're just getting a
Speaker 5: teeny bit of water coming in onto the concrete pad
Speaker 5: on the inside down one corner. It was causing carpa
Speaker 5: to rot. Yes, I had a couple of alumnion people
Speaker 5: come up and they're sort of squirt a bit of
Speaker 5: oooken there, and yeah, doesn't do anything. Don't really want
Speaker 5: to have to pull the whole sort of shebang out
Speaker 5: because it's a concrete plastered house. That's a bit of
Speaker 5: a major Is there any other alternatives?
Speaker 4: No, I think if you've done you know, it's not
Speaker 4: it's not the wrong approach. Let's say to turn up
Speaker 4: with some silicon, you know, and try And sometimes what
Speaker 4: can happen with aluminium jowinery, particularly sort of slightly older
Speaker 4: aluminium jowinery, is there'll be some movement ten years old. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there'll be some movement in the frame right, and potentially,
Speaker 4: let's say the screws that often hold those sections together,
Speaker 4: those extrusions together, may move a little bit twenty odd
Speaker 4: years ago. We probably with the greatest respect, we're not
Speaker 4: that diligent around trying to seal those corners, and so
Speaker 4: sometimes they'll move and water will track in through there,
Speaker 4: in which case, applying some sealant to seal that is
Speaker 4: not necessarily the wrong thing to do. What you don't
Speaker 4: want to do necessarily is go putting lots of sealant
Speaker 4: around and then blocking up drainage paths which are required.
Speaker 4: And I've seen that sometimes every now and then. What
Speaker 4: is it a ranch slider, is it a bifold door?
Speaker 4: Is it a standard opening door?
Speaker 5: Standard opening doors? So we've poured a truckload of water
Speaker 5: through the drains on the bottom of it, and that's
Speaker 5: fine to put the hose on the outside, yeah, of
Speaker 5: the glass that it slowly starts seeping on on the inside.
Speaker 4: So when you're testing it, you're just putting the water
Speaker 4: onto the glass. You're not spraying the wall and the
Speaker 4: joinery at the same time.
Speaker 5: Well, the glass and near leminum jowinery, Donny step it
Speaker 5: back and isolate one from the other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that will because essentially, if like if you direct
Speaker 4: some water just purely at the glass and the aluminum
Speaker 4: jewnery without going onto the cladding at all, and it leaks,
Speaker 4: then you know that you've probably got an issue with
Speaker 4: the joinery. If for example, because obviously it's an interaction
Speaker 4: between the joinery and the wall cladding. And I know
Speaker 4: you're reluctant for obvious reasons to have to deal with
Speaker 4: the cladding, but in some cases you might find actually
Speaker 4: the leak is around that junction between the cladding and
Speaker 4: the joinery and waters getting in there. Again, twenty odd
Speaker 4: years ago, we didn't often do a great job with
Speaker 4: ceiling around the perimeter of the jowinery. So in that
Speaker 4: gap between the jam and the timber framing, in.
Speaker 5: Some timber framing, it's concrete.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's and it's solid masonry, yeah, block with a
Speaker 4: rebate for the joinery, yes, okay, and then the joinery.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's the I don't think it's the
Speaker 5: concrete because we've also actually recently painted the house. Yes,
Speaker 5: if there's any leaks around there, sure, yeah. And you
Speaker 5: when you're squirreed in the you know about a foot
Speaker 5: up from the bottom, so it's nothing coming in from.
Speaker 4: Above, Okay, yep. Then look, most likely it's going to
Speaker 4: be somewhere in the aluminum extrusions. If they've done the seilant.
Speaker 4: What's the condition of the rubber seals around the glazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems okay, okay, But I thought even if
Speaker 5: that that the seals were leaking, I.
Speaker 4: Should run out of the rain drain. Yeah, what's at
Speaker 4: the bottom, Like, is there a pathway outside or a deck?
Speaker 5: There's a deck, so it's well above the ground height.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 4: Is there a twelve millimeter gap between the deck and
Speaker 4: the joinery?
Speaker 9: Twelve?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least Okay, all right, because you know, again
Speaker 4: that's one of the things that's the requirement of the
Speaker 4: code now that if you do have like a level
Speaker 4: entry deck or something like that, that you want to
Speaker 4: make sure that there's a gap there and that twelve
Speaker 4: millimeters allows for drainage, and it also it allows for ventilation, right,
Speaker 4: so water doesn't get stuck there and then potentially get
Speaker 4: capillary back up and up and underneath the flashing. Do
Speaker 4: you know if when you probably don't, if the window
Speaker 4: was installed, did they seal the rebait at the bottom?
Speaker 5: No idea. We only bought the house about a year ago,
Speaker 5: we knowing the leak was there. It's now just trying
Speaker 5: to remedy us there.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sure is the thought of pulling if it's hot. Is
Speaker 4: it a hot block specifically type.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the block with the polystine in the middle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, the hot block, okay, and it's a rebait,
Speaker 4: and then the windows are inserted into there is there
Speaker 4: a head flashing.
Speaker 5: No, there is, but that's a negative detail. So so there's
Speaker 5: a drip line, right, Okay, water comes through when I'm
Speaker 5: just spraying the bottom part of the window, so i've
Speaker 5: sort of ice ladder. It's not from the.
Speaker 4: Top, Okay, all right, it'll it'll be a leak somewhere
Speaker 4: in the joinery, in the frame or the seals.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find some old bugger that there has
Speaker 5: been doing the animinium drawing for years. It'll know exactly
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 4: I know exactly the right person, but he's he's a
Speaker 4: little bit out of action at the moment. Look, I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what. If you can find on the frame
Speaker 4: somewhere it does it have the name of the original manufacturer.
Speaker 4: I don't need to know who that is, but if
Speaker 4: it's if it's a reasonably well known brand, I'd go
Speaker 4: to them and go, hey, look, can you send out
Speaker 4: your old fellow. You know, with the greatest respect to
Speaker 4: old fellows like myself, a little bit of gray here
Speaker 4: is not a bad thing in this instance, and they
Speaker 4: may well be able to identify it, so I would
Speaker 4: that would be my next step. Actually, see if you
Speaker 4: can find out who the yourig general joinery manufacturer is.
Speaker 4: Get in touch with them, see if they can send
Speaker 4: someone out and have a look.
Speaker 5: Very good.
Speaker 4: The other company that's that's pretty experienced in this fields
Speaker 4: exceed window maintenance unless you they've been out in that
Speaker 4: look all right, try the original joiners.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 4: We'll do that, all right, you get good luck with that?
Speaker 5: Good on you take care.
Speaker 4: Yes, the chappie that I know, who I've called on many,
Speaker 4: many many times is just is laid up after some
Speaker 4: surgery at the moment, but bloody good to catch up
Speaker 4: with you on Friday. To mate, I eight hundred eight.
Speaker 4: If he's listening to the show, I eight hundred eighty
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call. Let me see
Speaker 4: six thirty eight Scott Greetings.
Speaker 12: Hello, how are you going?
Speaker 13: Signing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, very well, thank you.
Speaker 12: That's a sorry. I've got a question about We've got
Speaker 12: a pool that's been in the ground for about forty
Speaker 12: years and it's it's it's sunken below the surrounding ground
Speaker 12: by one point two one point seven meters and then
Speaker 12: it's got a one of the good pall fences, you know,
Speaker 12: the steel ones, and that goes around and it goes
Speaker 12: out to a ha ha a ha ha. You know,
Speaker 12: like you know, your lawn goes and then it drops
Speaker 12: off into the paddock.
Speaker 4: Never heard it described as a ha ha?
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, So is this.
Speaker 4: No, no, a country thing?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Probably, yeah. So you have your lawn and then you
Speaker 12: look straight out to your pads and then there's a
Speaker 12: drop off and into the lawn down to the to
Speaker 12: the paddock and it's and in this case.
Speaker 4: That you call it a ha ha. Is that because
Speaker 4: you laugh and you're doing roly polies down the hill
Speaker 4: with a name?
Speaker 12: No, no, it's not a hill. It's like it's like
Speaker 12: an need. It's got a no no, It just goes
Speaker 12: the lawn and then it stops and then there's a drop. Yes,
Speaker 12: you know, the vertical dropped down to the to the
Speaker 12: diferent area. Yeah, yep. So it's like one point two
Speaker 12: one point four meters or with.
Speaker 4: The retaining wall or is it just battered the.
Speaker 12: Retaining and it's been in there for forty years and
Speaker 12: it's got a hedge on a hedge on top of that,
Speaker 12: which is very fucking goes across there, and then on
Speaker 12: the other side it's got a railing fence, like a
Speaker 12: one point two one point three meters railing things for
Speaker 12: the electric trust to the honor, and then side that
Speaker 12: there's like a three foot heats that's been there for
Speaker 12: forty years and that, and then it's got the proper
Speaker 12: gates with.
Speaker 4: The proper you know, the proper Yeah, the lectures self
Speaker 4: closing and lecture.
Speaker 12: And height all right, height, and then you've got the
Speaker 12: botoms and stuff like that. So the huge of one
Speaker 12: called us a little bit weak. Now we've had we've
Speaker 12: had an expection recently and they suggested if and then
Speaker 12: it couldn't get in there if you know what I mean,
Speaker 12: little owner child at the moment. But the suggesting that
Speaker 12: we have to put meeting up on the railing fence
Speaker 12: on the outside of the edge and stuff like that
Speaker 12: so that you can't get a purchase there to climb.
Speaker 4: To ensure that it's not climbable.
Speaker 12: Yeah, which it isn't because it's got electricity over and
Speaker 12: it's got and then there's a three foot heage to
Speaker 12: climb through which it can't, which is impenetrable.
Speaker 4: Hedges are not considered suitable for pool fencing.
Speaker 12: No, No, that's right, we're getting that, we're getting to
Speaker 12: that point. So they suggested, and the report was used
Speaker 12: meeting on the edge of the fence, which will which
Speaker 12: will make it child proof or child proof in their eyes?
Speaker 12: And what the question was is do you need if
Speaker 12: you if you if you don't upgrade your fence, do
Speaker 12: you need a constin.
Speaker 9: Not?
Speaker 15: Typically No, the fellows that we're trying to councils got
Speaker 15: as adamant that if you'd start doing this and that
Speaker 15: you need to constinct a building consent for a fend.
Speaker 4: You'd have to ask them to which piece of legislation
Speaker 4: would it require a building consent? Yes, so I would.
Speaker 4: I would probably go back and say, look, my understanding
Speaker 4: is that under Schedule one of the act, I don't
Speaker 4: require a building consent. Can you tell me exactly which
Speaker 4: part of this construction triggers a requirement for a building consent,
Speaker 4: Even the fact that it's a pool fence and you
Speaker 4: know it's therefore safety, I don't know that that would
Speaker 4: necessarily require a building consent. Needs to comply with the
Speaker 4: pool fencing requirements in terms of its performance. And I'm
Speaker 4: a little bit curious about this idea of sort of
Speaker 4: wrapping some mesh around the outside of it, because that
Speaker 4: in many ways the mesh will just make it more
Speaker 4: climbable because it's its finger and toe holts, right, not the.
Speaker 12: Mess the proper square mesh, it's the rest.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 12: I've seen it years before and some division around. You know,
Speaker 12: when they have those the water flows to certain areas
Speaker 12: and then they've got like a bonding system, then then
Speaker 12: it flows into pipe and disappears.
Speaker 4: Now I'm with you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, they've got they've.
Speaker 12: Got a writing things up and then check that stuff
Speaker 12: to the outside of it.
Speaker 4: I think in terms of so the the assessment or
Speaker 4: the inspection is obviously done by a council officer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and they've done like it's been like that for
Speaker 12: forty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And okay, so look, maybe laws have changed or
Speaker 4: maybe they've kind of turned a blind eye to it
Speaker 4: and let it go and now they're not prepared to
Speaker 4: so you know, but I think with these sorts of things,
Speaker 4: they need to be very clear around this is where
Speaker 4: your fence fails in terms of compliance with the Poor
Speaker 4: Fencing Act. And I'm a little bit surprised that they
Speaker 4: offer up solutions. Sometimes they're not. They don't want to
Speaker 4: do that because they don't want to be held responsible
Speaker 4: for it. But if they have offered up a solution,
Speaker 4: that's fine. But then to say that it requires a
Speaker 4: building consent, you just gently go back and say, hey,
Speaker 4: look on what grounds that's right?
Speaker 12: I'd think the existing sense putting the netting up was fine,
Speaker 12: and the haha was putting up the netting so that
Speaker 12: there was no toe holds. And then what I suggested
Speaker 12: were putting in some new posts and then put the
Speaker 12: net that this special mess stuff to the one point
Speaker 12: two meters because everyone is high. And then there was
Speaker 12: when he got panicis there we need a building consider
Speaker 12: put some posts them?
Speaker 16: I don't.
Speaker 17: I don't think so.
Speaker 12: But yeah, then under the what is what do you say?
Speaker 12: That was under the first Act?
Speaker 4: So work that work that can be done, building work
Speaker 4: that can be done without necessarily requiring a building consent
Speaker 4: is summarized and schedule one of the acts. So if
Speaker 4: you want to do a quick on online search, she
Speaker 4: just sets for building acts, should your one, and it'll
Speaker 4: bring up all of the exemptions, typical exemptions. And I
Speaker 4: would have thought that fencing generally is an exemption.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, oh no, that's great.
Speaker 4: All the best. You're Scott. It goes well. Take care o.
Speaker 4: There a couple of texts on the now. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: not a ha ha, maybe it's a hard gar. A
Speaker 4: hager was a device in landscaping invented by Capability Brown
Speaker 4: in the UK to give the impression of fields appearing
Speaker 4: to go right up to a grand house. The fence
Speaker 4: was placed at the bottom of the ditch, unseen from
Speaker 4: the grand house windows. John from Omaru, thank you very
Speaker 4: much a hager. So the I I suppose the idea
Speaker 4: is you'd have your lawn extending out from your grand
Speaker 4: palace in the countryside in the UK, and then the
Speaker 4: bank slopes down and you put the fence to keep
Speaker 4: out the peasants at the bottom so you can't see
Speaker 4: the poor and impoverished pleading at the gates when you're
Speaker 4: sitting having a cup of tea in a cucumber sandwich
Speaker 4: in the afternoon. It kind of works. Oh, eight hundred
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Just a
Speaker 4: quick one on the joinery that's leaking. The fixed glazing
Speaker 4: panel maters are open. Take out the glass to fix it.
Speaker 4: That's a very good point, thank you, Peter. So for
Speaker 4: Danny who's got the leaking joinery. If what they've done
Speaker 4: is come along and sort of opened the door and
Speaker 4: filled that area with silicon, it might be if there's
Speaker 4: a fixed panel that you need to unclip the glazing beads,
Speaker 4: lift the unit out, whether it's single or double glazed out,
Speaker 4: and then seal the miters there and then reinstall the glass.
Speaker 4: If they didn't do that when they arrived with a
Speaker 4: tube of silicon, then that might be a next step.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much Peter for your suggestion. Oh, eight
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will
Speaker 4: come back and talk to Roger in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with or wondering how
Speaker 1: to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter wolf
Speaker 1: Cap call on eighty the resident builder on Youth dogs'b.
Speaker 4: Just before we go to Roger, I just want to
Speaker 4: go back to that text from earlier, on part one
Speaker 4: of the text Morning, Peter, our house is an issue
Speaker 4: with heat. In summer it can well of forty degrees
Speaker 4: and in winter we struggle to get it to twenty
Speaker 4: degrees new build relocated to site in twenty nineteen. So
Speaker 4: was it built in twenty nineteen or was it built earlier?
Speaker 4: I kind of need to know. So one side of
Speaker 4: the house is nearly all ranch sliders the house. That
Speaker 4: side is west facing, so short of moving the house,
Speaker 4: is there any other solution to managing heating and calling?
Speaker 4: Thanks Rachel Looks. It's both a really simple question and
Speaker 4: a really really complex one. I think that probably the
Speaker 4: most sensible solution for that western side of the house
Speaker 4: is to add some shade. And if you design the
Speaker 4: shade well, i e. A purglar or pagoda that extends
Speaker 4: out over there, what you'll find is that with the
Speaker 4: change in the position of the sun in the sky. No,
Speaker 4: the sun doesn't change, we change, right, So it would
Speaker 4: appear that the sun is either higher in the sky
Speaker 4: in winter and lower in summer. So in summer, sorry
Speaker 4: in winter, So in winter you want to have some
Speaker 4: shading that extends out that allows the sun to come in.
Speaker 4: You want that passive soul again over the winter period,
Speaker 4: but in summer you want it to be shaded. So
Speaker 4: it's there are designers who will help you with that
Speaker 4: to determine exactly where you need to put that shade,
Speaker 4: how far out, how high it is, and so on,
Speaker 4: and that will give you shading, protect you from that
Speaker 4: soul again over the summer month, and it will allow
Speaker 4: that warmth that you want in winter to come in
Speaker 4: in my own house completely and utterly. Coincidentally, when we
Speaker 4: renovated many many years ago, we added a veranda to
Speaker 4: the back of the house. It's north facing. We added
Speaker 4: some French doors, some bifolds, etc. And we also added
Speaker 4: a verandah with a covered roof on it in a
Speaker 4: typical sort of villa fashion. As it happens in the
Speaker 4: middle of so the longest day was what ten days ago,
Speaker 4: The sun lower in the sky will come underneath that
Speaker 4: veranda roof and extend four meters let's say, into the room,
Speaker 4: so the floor is lit up. In summertime, that sun
Speaker 4: stops at the doors. Now I'm going to give credit
Speaker 4: to my architect, Lloyd, who designed it like that, or
Speaker 4: I'm just going to go it was just an absolute fluke,
Speaker 4: but either way it works. So shading is going to
Speaker 4: be a big part of that solution. Roger greetings, Hey.
Speaker 13: There shovels about some of the thty years old wether
Speaker 13: all God I think has terror or handle some of
Speaker 13: them and the splinter, and every time I use them
Speaker 13: you get a wee splinter. Any plastic spray that you
Speaker 13: can spray over.
Speaker 4: It, okay, that's just try. I think I've probably got
Speaker 4: some shovels well wooden handles on them that would be
Speaker 4: of around that vintage. Yes, I don't know that i'd go.
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, you could probably put some sort of
Speaker 4: plastic spray over them, but whether it would stay on there,
Speaker 4: and whether or not it's kind of nice to use.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Those splinters that you get, are they
Speaker 4: wear a large sort of part of the fiber of
Speaker 4: the timber actually starts to peel away and you're getting
Speaker 4: a splinter, or are they like those small little splinters
Speaker 4: that you might get from time to time. Yes, there's
Speaker 4: smaller the little ones.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I got a space in the hand. You can't
Speaker 13: get the things out.
Speaker 4: What about something like giving it a good sand, right,
Speaker 4: so with some sandpaper, giving it a sand, knocking off
Speaker 4: as many of those little splinters as possible, and then
Speaker 4: just you using you know, you could use linseed oil,
Speaker 4: you could use some Danish oil something like that to
Speaker 4: oil and keep some moisture in the timber, which I
Speaker 4: think will help keep down the splinters. I think I'd
Speaker 4: rather go for like an oil onto the timber rather
Speaker 4: than a plastic coating which is most likely going to
Speaker 4: peel off again. Oh, I see, so sand at Noilam
Speaker 4: would be my gown. I think so nice to talk
Speaker 4: to you all the best. A little while ago I
Speaker 4: was doing I came in and did a Sunday afternoon show,
Speaker 4: The Sunday at Six with Jack S. Donaldson. I was
Speaker 4: filling in for Frank Richie, and we got talking about
Speaker 4: things that we couldn't part with, and then we got
Speaker 4: talking about shovels, and then we both sort of start
Speaker 4: to obsess about shovels. To be fair, there is nothing better. Well,
Speaker 4: there are lots of things better. But one of life's
Speaker 4: great pleasures, if you're involved in sort of the manual trades,
Speaker 4: or you like being out in the garden and that
Speaker 4: sort of thing, is the quality, the sheer pleasure you
Speaker 4: get from a really good shovel and how attached you
Speaker 4: get to them, and how intolerant you become of using
Speaker 4: shovels that are not particularly good or spades any digging implement.
Speaker 4: So yeah, having one with a nice wooden handle it
Speaker 4: gives you splinters would be a source of some concern,
Speaker 4: I would imagine. Kate, hold on, we will talk to
Speaker 4: you after new Sport and where the top of the
Speaker 4: are at seven o'clock. Text Pete how effective is underfloor
Speaker 4: insulation in our old house and is it beneficial to
Speaker 4: also do the walls as well? There is insulation in
Speaker 4: the roof. Cheers from Alistair. Alistair. Probably the single best
Speaker 4: thing you can do for your house is to add
Speaker 4: insulation in the correct Insulation in the correct place will
Speaker 4: make a massive difference to how your house performs. So yes,
Speaker 4: underfloor insulation is tremendously effective. It will help keep the
Speaker 4: heat in if it's well installed. It will also help
Speaker 4: prevent those drafts that will make your house. If it's
Speaker 4: a conventional strip flooring, it'll help with there. If you
Speaker 4: can do the walls, Yes, you need to do a
Speaker 4: bit of research as to which is the best system
Speaker 4: for your house, but yeah, adding insulation never a bad thing.
Speaker 4: By the way, insallation doesn't cause overheating. We'll talk about
Speaker 4: that after the break as well. Back after the Newsszon
Speaker 4: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter wolf Care, the resident
Speaker 1: builder on news Talk said, b well girls.
Speaker 4: By really those styles be aware and the sun girls
Speaker 4: with the we time they knocked me out when I'm
Speaker 4: down there westin Well, make your Newstalk's CB Pete wolf
Speaker 4: Camp with you. We're talking all things building in construction
Speaker 4: here at Newstalks CB on a Sunday morning. This is
Speaker 4: the resident builder on Sunday, So if you'd like to
Speaker 4: join me if you've got a question, eight hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call now. Before
Speaker 4: the break, Denny was one of our earlier callers talking
Speaker 4: about a persistent leak in some twenty year old aluminium
Speaker 4: jowinery which is set into a solid, semi solid masonry wall.
Speaker 4: So what they call a hot block system, which was
Speaker 4: blocks I don't even think you can buy them anymore,
Speaker 4: concrete blocks that had a polystyrene skin inserted in them
Speaker 4: to help with their thermal efficiency. So you could build
Speaker 4: in this nice solid masonry construction joinery fits into a
Speaker 4: rebate leak at the bottom of the joinery that's then
Speaker 4: visible on the floor inside the dwelling. A couple of
Speaker 4: attempts to fix it, a couple of suggestions that maybe
Speaker 4: the leak might be in the fixed panel. Now Ron
Speaker 4: has taxed through, and I have a feeling I know
Speaker 4: Ron is but and not surprised by the accuracy of
Speaker 4: his comments.
Speaker 15: Pete.
Speaker 4: Hinged door systems typically have a sump sill. If the
Speaker 4: underside has been inadequately sealed, it's difficult to address. One
Speaker 4: way is very careful and accurate invasion through the top
Speaker 4: side platform, which will have drainage holes in it. The
Speaker 4: accuracy of the seilent application is important. Could be done
Speaker 4: by could be done or aided by micro chemict needs
Speaker 4: to be done by a person who understands the product design.
Speaker 4: Thanks very much for that, Ron, I agree with you,
Speaker 4: and I wonder whether in this instance going back to
Speaker 4: the original manufacturer. Often if you open a sash, you'll
Speaker 4: see a logo or a label on the inside of
Speaker 4: the sash or in the inside of the jam that
Speaker 4: will tell you who the original manufacturer is. You go
Speaker 4: back there, you talk to them because they understand how
Speaker 4: all of those various components go together and how they
Speaker 4: should perform. So if there's a drainage hole, it's not working.
Speaker 4: And it's pushing water back inside the building. They could
Speaker 4: sort that out. Or if it is as Ron describes
Speaker 4: a sump sill, then there may be ways of checking that,
Speaker 4: or look, it might just be the case of having
Speaker 4: to take the joinery out, address the issue, reinstate the joinery,
Speaker 4: which is obviously a bit of a bigger job. RIGHTO.
Speaker 4: Nine minutes after seven here at news Talk, se'd be
Speaker 4: remember after act thirty this morning, we will be into
Speaker 4: the garden with Red Clone past as always. Actually remind
Speaker 4: me I must talk to him about ruru. Apparently it's
Speaker 4: coming up to nesting season. So if you've ever thought
Speaker 4: about making an owl box a Ruru box, you should
Speaker 4: do that. I've built two of them to two different designs.
Speaker 4: Turns out neither of them is particularly suitable for barn
Speaker 4: how's but they will be okay for ruru anyway. I've
Speaker 4: given them away. So now I've heard that in the
Speaker 4: area that I live in there are increasing reports of
Speaker 4: ruru being seen around or heard maybe, So now I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: right next to them in the workhop, We're going to
Speaker 4: make another al box. We're going to make another rural box,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to use the plans from Wingspan, very
Speaker 4: specific plans from Wingspan. I have a crack at that knowledge.
Speaker 4: You know how I get on? Oh eight hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, right, Oh, Kate, Hello,
Speaker 4: thanks for waiting.
Speaker 9: Okay, the motion is so overwhelming that my little grievance
Speaker 9: will probably make.
Speaker 4: You laugh not at all to go for it because of.
Speaker 9: The weather, and like, I'm an epsum and the weather's
Speaker 9: being really, really poor. I've got a fireplace and I've
Speaker 9: boarded it up. I've put bricks on you with a
Speaker 9: big piece of wood or a sheet of whatever wood. Yes,
Speaker 9: and I've put bricks at the bottom. But every time
Speaker 9: the weather gets extremely windy or bad, the wood falls
Speaker 9: out right and the air and the drug comes straight.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And I don't know who I thought about putting some
Speaker 9: POxy around the stade of the frame and sticking it.
Speaker 9: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a particularly attractive solution, though, is it,
Speaker 4: Because in the end, you know, it's it's in the
Speaker 4: middle of the house. And I kind of understand where
Speaker 4: you're coming from. So we have an old fireplace in
Speaker 4: the front lounge at our place. It's an old house
Speaker 4: as well. And you know, we use different types of
Speaker 4: heating now, so I don't often use the open fire,
Speaker 4: but of course the chimney still doing what the chimney does.
Speaker 4: It sucks hot air out. So when I'm heating the
Speaker 4: house and I've got an unused fireplace with a chimney,
Speaker 4: it's just sucking the heat out, which is what it's
Speaker 4: doing at your place. So for a long time I
Speaker 4: used to just hold a little board up there as
Speaker 4: well over the winter, and it probably did very little,
Speaker 4: but it felt like I was doing the right thing.
Speaker 4: What I ended up buying is a chimney balloon, right,
Speaker 4: and I found it online. I think I ended up
Speaker 4: ordering it from the UK, so it got sent out
Speaker 4: and it's a kind of a durable almost like it. Sorry,
Speaker 4: I had to ship it in. I don't know if
Speaker 4: there's anyone tell you what it'd be a here's a
Speaker 4: free tip for someone who wants to be a bit entrepreneurial.
Speaker 4: Get into the businesses of importing these chimney balloons. So
Speaker 4: what it is when you unpack it, it's like a
Speaker 4: pillow slip, right, if you imagine the size of a
Speaker 4: pillow slip, and it's got a nozzle on it with
Speaker 4: a valve that you can turn on and off. So
Speaker 4: what you do is you I partially inflated it, put
Speaker 4: it inside the chimney, so in through the fireplace opening
Speaker 4: just above. There's always a bit of a lip at
Speaker 4: the back of it that helps the fire draw, so
Speaker 4: you just push it slightly above there, and then I
Speaker 4: actually used the little portable inflator and I pumped it
Speaker 4: up until I felt that it was real reasonably firm,
Speaker 4: and it seals all of the gaps around the chimney right.
Speaker 4: So now from the outside it doesn't look any different,
Speaker 4: so it still looks like an open fire, but it's
Speaker 4: effectively sealed. I guess the only thing you have to
Speaker 4: remember is if you ever wanted to have a fire,
Speaker 4: you've got to remember to take the fire the chimney
Speaker 4: balloon out, So that might be an option for you.
Speaker 4: The other more longer term fix would be possibly to
Speaker 4: get a roof to come and actually make you a
Speaker 4: cap for the top of the chimney and actually seal
Speaker 4: the chimney off at the top. But yeah, they are
Speaker 4: a bit of an issue because lots of houses still
Speaker 4: have chimneys and in wintertime, all they're doing is robbing
Speaker 4: you of the heat that you've spent money to create.
Speaker 9: And it's just one other thing.
Speaker 18: I have.
Speaker 9: A satellite on my roof and it's broken, so I
Speaker 9: don't even need satellite, you know, at all. But would
Speaker 9: I get someone to take that down?
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's not like causing a problem, you
Speaker 4: don't have to take it down, But typically they just
Speaker 4: take screwed through the roofing material, hopefully into a perlin.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely no, get someone to take it down.
Speaker 4: But then, of course you've got a hole in your roof.
Speaker 4: So whoever takes it down needs well because the bracket
Speaker 4: is screwed through into the peerlins, right, so screwed through
Speaker 4: the islands of the peerlin. So when you take those out,
Speaker 4: either put the screw back in the hole because it
Speaker 4: should have a little neoprene washer in it so that'll
Speaker 4: seal itself. Or that's probably actually the best solution, take
Speaker 4: the bracket off, put the screw back and make sure
Speaker 4: it's got a washer around it. Or if you don't
Speaker 4: want to see the screw there, you can take it
Speaker 4: out and apply some sealent. But I actually think the
Speaker 4: better option is just leave the screw in place. But
Speaker 4: just take the bracket away.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's really nice advice.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, No trouble at all. All the
Speaker 4: very best to you. Take care see O Cake. By then,
Speaker 4: I'm just looking online. I don't know if there's another solution.
Speaker 4: Maybe there is, but chimney balloon dot co dot uk
Speaker 4: is I'm pretty sure that's where I got mine. And
Speaker 4: I to be really embarrassingly true, I think I bought
Speaker 4: it like a year ago, but I only installed it
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago when the weather got cold,
Speaker 4: and it took a couple of minutes to do. And
Speaker 4: it's in there and it seems to be working. So
Speaker 4: chimney balloon. If you've got an old chimney that you're
Speaker 4: not using, an open flyer that you're not using, and
Speaker 4: you are heating your house, then you're just losing all
Speaker 4: of that heat through the chimney. So block it off
Speaker 4: by putting in a chimney balloon. If there's a local source,
Speaker 4: please let me know. But hey, it worked, and I
Speaker 4: quite like solutions that work. It is coming up sixteen
Speaker 4: minutes after seven. I do want to make a comment
Speaker 4: in a moment which is a fairly technical and a
Speaker 4: little bit long, winded, but I think quite important about
Speaker 4: the online calculator for the Healthy homes heating requirements, particularly
Speaker 4: when it comes to applying that to apartments. We'll do
Speaker 4: that shortly, but first up, Jared, Greetings.
Speaker 16: Good morning, Mike. How are you, Pete?
Speaker 4: And I'm very well, thank you.
Speaker 16: That's good.
Speaker 5: Got the name wrong, that's quite right.
Speaker 16: I've got color steel spouting on a twelve thirteen year
Speaker 16: old house, and it's corroding and places on the inside
Speaker 16: of the spouting where I presume I've used cut off
Speaker 16: saws to cut the roofing to link and the firelings
Speaker 16: have been left there and cause some areas of the
Speaker 16: internal spouting to us just we spots and bubbles. And
Speaker 16: I was wondering if you had anything in this solution
Speaker 16: of mind would be the best.
Speaker 4: Has the corrosion gone all the way through so obviously
Speaker 4: from the underside you can see it, or is it
Speaker 4: just visible inside the spouting?
Speaker 16: Just visible?
Speaker 4: Okay? All right, it's reasonably okay to get up there,
Speaker 4: like you can be up there for half an hour
Speaker 4: trying to fix it. Or is it a bit precarious?
Speaker 14: Okay, get up on a ladder whatever, all.
Speaker 4: Right, and it's extensive or just in some spots.
Speaker 14: It's really the extensive. Actually it's more so on some
Speaker 14: spots than other. I suppose it would extend for about
Speaker 14: two meters I suppose in some areas.
Speaker 4: Ah okay, right, yeah, Well, I guess the first thing
Speaker 4: to do is to treat the rust, which you know,
Speaker 4: if you can get in there with the wirebrush, remove
Speaker 4: most of it, and then probably use like a rust
Speaker 4: converter that will then neutralize the rust. And then you've
Speaker 4: got a couple of options. One would be to apply
Speaker 4: some rust kill primers, and there's a bunch of those
Speaker 4: around there, and then just paint the inside of it.
Speaker 4: The other option would be actually, it's a product we're
Speaker 4: going to be talking about shortly that I used on
Speaker 4: a little flat roof, which is a waterproof coating. It's
Speaker 4: a silicon membrane flexible membrane that you can apply called
Speaker 4: juris in juris so E N d U r I S,
Speaker 4: which you could apply to the inside and it will
Speaker 4: you know, it'll cover any small holes and it will
Speaker 4: just give you it'll extend the life considerably, I would
Speaker 4: imagine if that's spouting. So treat the rust primate and
Speaker 4: then coat with either with a paint if you wanted to,
Speaker 4: or with something like the silicon coating.
Speaker 16: This indurious, okay, that it could be worth a try.
Speaker 14: As I say, nothing has comes through underneath that.
Speaker 16: You can just see these nige you're sitting on top
Speaker 16: of the internal.
Speaker 14: Right through the paint what it called pre painted color steel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, so on that sort of that primer coat
Speaker 4: that's on the inside, you'll see the rust starting to
Speaker 4: sit there. Frustrating though, isn't it when you think you know,
Speaker 4: it doesn't like it's a real I I'd be really
Speaker 4: disappointed in the original contractor if they used hot cutting
Speaker 4: on any type of pre coated steel, because that's a
Speaker 4: no no.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 4: Doing that is a is a no no. And it's
Speaker 4: amazing how far those sparks effectively go if you're using
Speaker 4: a grinder to cut metal outside. I've made and I
Speaker 4: know this from my own harsh experience, I've made some
Speaker 4: stupid mistakes over the years where I've thought I'll just
Speaker 4: get the old cutoff blade in the grinder and hack
Speaker 4: that off, and then I've you know, a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks later, suddenly there's rought spots all over the place.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, that was me, your muppet. So
Speaker 4: hopefully I've learned my lesson. Had years ago we did
Speaker 4: a job where we had to cut a handrail down
Speaker 4: and the boys used a grinder with a cutoff blade
Speaker 4: to cut through the handrail, but the sparks ended up
Speaker 4: going against the glass of a big sliding door and embedding.
Speaker 4: The hot sparks ended up embedding on the surface of
Speaker 4: the glass and when I found I saw it the
Speaker 4: next day and I'm like, oh you. Thankfully we're actually
Speaker 4: able to get those nervous guys who do the windscreen repairs.
Speaker 4: They came and ground the surface of the glass back
Speaker 4: and got rid of the sparks, but it was still
Speaker 4: terribly embarrassing. I have to say, there you go. It's
Speaker 4: all out in the open now. Yeah, it does happen.
Speaker 14: There was just one other the silicon they used on
Speaker 14: the joints. Yes, I think what has happened that the
Speaker 14: previous owners had never cleaned the spouting out and there's
Speaker 14: been an accumulation of silk and it seems to have
Speaker 14: lifted the silk and on the joint and about the
Speaker 14: leaking on the corners right, because the silicon has absolutely had,
Speaker 14: and I just wondered what would be the best way
Speaker 14: of going about fixing that or replacing that silicon somehow?
Speaker 4: Look to be fair if if like, if you're going
Speaker 4: to use that Injurius coating, you could apply that through
Speaker 4: the corner and it's sort out the corner as well,
Speaker 4: right over the top of over the top of the
Speaker 4: existing silicon. It wouldn't matter, right, Yeah, So check it
Speaker 4: out online. All the best, Thank you, take care. I
Speaker 4: think the work to do, and look, it's that thing
Speaker 4: of being up on the ladder. I've got one job
Speaker 4: to do this week, which is sort of trying to
Speaker 4: address an issue with some windows on the second floor,
Speaker 4: and I need to get a letter. I tell you,
Speaker 4: he's can I ask your advice if anyone knows where
Speaker 4: I can get those safety steps not safety step, they're
Speaker 4: like a mat that you put on the ground to
Speaker 4: stop your extension ladder slipping away at the bottom. If
Speaker 4: there's somewhere that you know where you can get them
Speaker 4: at a reasonable price, let me know, because I want
Speaker 4: to buy one of those. I'm just thinking about being
Speaker 4: up there on the top of the extension ladder. I'll
Speaker 4: probably be about three meters in the air, leaning against
Speaker 4: the house. And it happened to me once climbing onto
Speaker 4: a roof where I had set up the extension ladder,
Speaker 4: was climbing up. It was sitting on the deck. The
Speaker 4: deck was wet and the bottom of the ladder slipped
Speaker 4: out and I went straight down. I'm just I don't
Speaker 4: want that to happen again. So if you know where
Speaker 4: I can get one of those, let me know please. Oh,
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 4: It is twenty two minutes after seven, so it's two
Speaker 4: way conversation. You can help me out as well. Eight
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If
Speaker 4: you've got a building question, call us right now.
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident
Speaker 1: Filder with Peter WOLFCAF call oh eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: talk ZV.
Speaker 4: You and you talk CB. Someone's just text and rust.
Speaker 4: Spots in the gutter likely aren't from the cutting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's unlikely too. They'll be from the screws
Speaker 4: that the installation. The screw has drilled like tip that
Speaker 4: makes its own hole, which leaves the cutting behind the swarf.
Speaker 4: General procedure is to use a blower at the end
Speaker 4: of the day to get it off the roof. Is
Speaker 4: one night of jew is enough to cause those rust spots. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: contracts of contractors often leave it there. It's not uncommon,
Speaker 4: especially as more builders hang the gutters before the roofing.
Speaker 4: That's often the case now the sort of external facure
Speaker 4: and the spouting goes up and then the roofing goes on.
Speaker 4: So if there's any swarf on the roof from drilling
Speaker 4: through your fixings, that tends to end up in the gutter.
Speaker 4: And then while they might blow it down from the roof,
Speaker 4: maybe not that many roofs then go through and make
Speaker 4: sure that they've cleaned out the spouting to ensure that
Speaker 4: that swarf doesn't sit there causing rust. Thanks very much
Speaker 4: for that, Chris, much appreciate it.
Speaker 18: I do want to make.
Speaker 4: Sure I talk about this Healthy homes Heating Assessment tool
Speaker 4: online in my recent experience with it. I'll try and
Speaker 4: do that shortly. Christine, Hello there, Hello, Hi Peter, I
Speaker 4: haven't called you before. Well, I'm delighted you have, thank
Speaker 4: you and welcome.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 11: I'm just wondering your thoughts on putting in dvs.
Speaker 19: Into your home.
Speaker 11: Yep, well, I guess it versus the other one?
Speaker 9: What is it?
Speaker 4: H is the other common brand that you're probably thinking of?
Speaker 4: Can Can I sort of widen the discussion a little bit, right,
Speaker 4: So rather than speak specifically about either of those two brands,
Speaker 4: there's a growing awareness of that one of the one
Speaker 4: of the areas where our houses fail is that we
Speaker 4: don't do adequate ventilation. And I know sometimes that discussion
Speaker 4: often becomes will just open a window, but for a
Speaker 4: lot of different reasons, people may not want to do that.
Speaker 4: Or you know, if it's cold and windy, then you
Speaker 4: don't want to open a window because you're going to
Speaker 4: let all of that inside. Right, So let's get rid
Speaker 4: of the excuses for not doing ventilation and look at
Speaker 4: the fact that ventilation, proper mechanical ventilation, well designed and
Speaker 4: well installed, is a benefit to almost every house.
Speaker 18: Right.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that you don't open the doors and windows
Speaker 4: when you can, but it allows for ventilation to happen
Speaker 4: when those things can't happen. So I think you've got
Speaker 4: to look at what's really effective about ventilation, Drawing air
Speaker 4: from outside and ideally passing it over a heat exchanger
Speaker 4: and then pushing it into the dry areas of the
Speaker 4: house and having a system that also extracts from what
Speaker 4: we might call the moist areas or the wet areas
Speaker 4: of the house kitchens, laundries, bathrooms is probably the best system.
Speaker 4: So I think if you're going to engage with a
Speaker 4: contractor about that, you want to make sure that you're
Speaker 4: getting independent advice, and you want to make sure that
Speaker 4: they've got a really good knowledge of where where the
Speaker 4: ventilation system will be most how it's going to be
Speaker 4: installed to give you the greatest benefit. And I think
Speaker 4: you probably are thinking, well, if I put one of
Speaker 4: these systems in, it'll make it warmer. I've never really
Speaker 4: thought that they are tremendously effective in terms of actually
Speaker 4: creating warmth. But where they are effective is because they
Speaker 4: help reduce the moisture content inside the house. The house
Speaker 4: is able. You know, warming dry air is easier than
Speaker 4: warming moist air. So if you've got air that's heavy
Speaker 4: with moisture inside your house, that's going to be harder
Speaker 4: to heat. And the way that you can move that
Speaker 4: around and extract that is by having a really effective
Speaker 4: ventilation system. So and like there's a lot of discussion
Speaker 4: at the moment about installing continuous flow extraction, let's say
Speaker 4: in bathrooms and so on. So rather than having an
Speaker 4: extraction fan that you turn on and it runs for
Speaker 4: a period of time and then typically we turn it off,
Speaker 4: they are systems that will monitor the amount of moisture
Speaker 4: detected the humidity in the room, for example, and then
Speaker 4: they will ramp up when that you know, when you
Speaker 4: hop into the shower and you're generating lots of moist
Speaker 4: air and then but they will continue to run at
Speaker 4: a lower level all through the day, and that helps
Speaker 4: create a situation where if you know, imagine if you've
Speaker 4: got a little extractor in the bathroom that is running constantly,
Speaker 4: what it's doing is drawing air from the rest of
Speaker 4: the house and expelling it all through the day, and
Speaker 4: that that increases ventilation and inevitably you'll have air sort
Speaker 4: of filtering into the house through gaps and cracks. Ideally
Speaker 4: we want to control that. But even if we're not
Speaker 4: controlling it, but we're extracting it continuously, that's a benefit.
Speaker 4: So it is like, I know people that this is
Speaker 4: their life's work, right talking about ventilation, extraction, air quality.
Speaker 4: So let's let's not try and make it a simple
Speaker 4: solution when it is both simple and very very complex
Speaker 4: at the same time. So I'd encourage you to do
Speaker 4: lots and lots of reading and research before you make
Speaker 4: a decision.
Speaker 9: All right, I.
Speaker 11: Have. I have done some reading, and I am perplexed
Speaker 11: about the whole thing. Sure, sorry, but I'm a free
Speaker 11: you know. I love the windows open when I can.
Speaker 11: I've had double closed the whole place as well, and
Speaker 11: just about to put some more insulation. So I guess
Speaker 11: going down that pathway might be best while I'm reading
Speaker 11: about the other one.
Speaker 4: I tell you what you know, because one of these
Speaker 4: things with doing some research and some reading is you've
Speaker 4: got to make sure you're reading the right stuff, right.
Speaker 4: So I've just done a quick search just out of curiosity,
Speaker 4: because you know, if you want some really good information,
Speaker 4: go to reputable sources. So I would suggest that you
Speaker 4: have a look at the brand's website. That's b r
Speaker 4: A n Z so, the Building Research Authority of New Zealand.
Speaker 4: They have got a whole lot of information about ventilation
Speaker 4: on their website and it's really really good information. Okay,
Speaker 4: have a look there and good luck.
Speaker 6: But do you go ahead with it.
Speaker 4: Don't don't let me put you off by trying to
Speaker 4: make it sound complicated. Get some really good ventilation and
Speaker 4: it would be great. But yeah, you've got to talk
Speaker 4: to the right person and they've got to know what
Speaker 4: they're talking about, not just selling you a system for
Speaker 4: the hell of it. All right, ye, lovely to talk
Speaker 4: to you. Thank you very much for calling you all
Speaker 4: the very best, take care loving those conversations. Oh eight
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 1: Matter twice God was but maybe called Pete first for
Speaker 1: your walk care. The resident builder news Talk said, be your.
Speaker 4: News talks hed b and let me see six thirty
Speaker 4: seven thirty six pardon me here at Newstalks the b
Speaker 4: Allen good morning.
Speaker 7: Good morning, how are you?
Speaker 4: Goodness?
Speaker 7: What's up, Nasal. I've got a wheelchair ram now to
Speaker 7: say something about that DHD later on. I've got a
Speaker 7: wheelchair ram. And when you walk up and down, if
Speaker 7: you're not in the wheelchair, it's gets slippery. Yep, because
Speaker 7: it's under one roof on my back carboard. It is
Speaker 7: on the roof is on a possibly a sixth degree angle,
Speaker 7: and the house roof there's a bathroom, there's there's possibly
Speaker 7: about thirty thirty degrees, which leaves a gap getting from
Speaker 7: nothing down to quite a bit of fot say, but
Speaker 7: there again the rain comes in where you walk down
Speaker 7: the side out the back of a bathroom too. What
Speaker 7: can I do with it?
Speaker 4: What's the REMP made out of.
Speaker 18: Timber?
Speaker 4: Timber and so timber framing with timber decking on top of.
Speaker 7: It four to one tip. Yeah, there's fourber ones and
Speaker 7: there's little slots in between. There's a gap between each board.
Speaker 17: Two yes.
Speaker 4: And so they've used what they call a grip treade decking,
Speaker 4: and they've done the grooved side up, which is kind
Speaker 4: of all of the right thing to do.
Speaker 20: But it's just ordinary form rough storm four one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, tantalized danalized, Yeah, rough sor yeah, it's just rough.
Speaker 7: But as great as you walking onland all the time,
Speaker 7: it's getting smooth.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, did did you have this
Speaker 4: built for you or did someone come and build it
Speaker 4: for you? Or was it there when you moved in?
Speaker 7: I had to come in, but I helped helped him.
Speaker 4: To be fair, I wouldn't be very happy with him,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean doing using some rough storm. Timber
Speaker 4: is decking on an accessibility ramp is pretty poor. Did
Speaker 4: did they get any funding like through acc or anything
Speaker 4: like that for the work that they did?
Speaker 7: I think them hospital why come to something some arrangement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a bit of a waste of money. Okay, Look,
Speaker 4: the most straightforward solution is going to be something along
Speaker 4: the lines of plastic mesh that you'll staple down over
Speaker 4: the top, right you see it. Lots of sort of
Speaker 4: boardwalks and our you know, public forests and public spaces
Speaker 4: sometimes will have that on it. And essentially it's just
Speaker 4: a way of creating a slip resistant surface to an
Speaker 4: existing timber surface. So you know, stainless steel, horseshoe nails,
Speaker 4: stainless steel staples to fix it down. Mesh, the right
Speaker 4: type of mesh, the right durability and so on, so
Speaker 4: it can't be too lightweight, and just fix that down
Speaker 4: over the top would be the most straightforward fixed. But
Speaker 4: I have to say that's it. You know, it sounds
Speaker 4: like it's disappointing bit of work to be blunted.
Speaker 7: All right, Can I make a suggestion?
Speaker 4: Go for it?
Speaker 7: I was thinking of.
Speaker 21: Putting another beam down underneath the beam that's there and
Speaker 21: putting some fly we're on it, and as you're on
Speaker 21: that beam, your hang down in media, make a stud
Speaker 21: in mid air off the top.
Speaker 7: Beam and the run you put in and extended one
Speaker 7: hundred miles down and put a put a four we
Speaker 7: two at right angles.
Speaker 4: So that's that's more about trying to stop the ramp
Speaker 4: from getting wet by closing the gap between the two roofs,
Speaker 4: right and look, that would help, but it doesn't. In
Speaker 4: the event that the deck gets wet, the deck is
Speaker 4: still going to be slippery, right, So yes, you could
Speaker 4: do what you're thinking about doing, and if that works, that's.
Speaker 20: Great flashing over the bathroom, but it's yeah.
Speaker 4: Look that would probably you know, if the deck stays dry,
Speaker 4: then the deck is going to be less slippery. But
Speaker 4: inevitably these things get wet, and so I would kind
Speaker 4: of focus on dealing with the issue, which is that
Speaker 4: it's the type of timber that's been used I don't
Speaker 4: think is suitable. And yes, it is going to get slippery,
Speaker 4: and you could do it with a mesh. There are
Speaker 4: more sort of you know, detailed solutions. I was looking
Speaker 4: at some non slip mats the other day that you
Speaker 4: could fix down. They're like a fiberglass mesh type thing
Speaker 4: or a non slip mat that you could fix down
Speaker 4: over the top that would give you a permanent surface,
Speaker 4: So that would be another option as well. So there
Speaker 4: are solutions for it. It'll either be a mesh or
Speaker 4: it'll be a mat of some description. But again, not
Speaker 4: wanting to go on about it. It's kind of disappointing
Speaker 4: if somebody, especially if somebody's got basically taxpayer money to
Speaker 4: go and do a job like that for you, and
Speaker 4: then they've done a basically rubbish job, it's a bit annoying.
Speaker 4: Good luck with all of that. Alan, Oh, eight hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Can
Speaker 4: I just take I'm hoping that this is only going
Speaker 4: to take a minute. But it's been a quite interesting
Speaker 4: little investigation that I've been part of over the last
Speaker 4: six weeks or so. It's particularly pertinent because the deadline
Speaker 4: for all of the Healthy Homes compliance starts on Tuesday,
Speaker 4: the first of July. So if you were a landlord
Speaker 4: and you had a property and you needed to ensure
Speaker 4: that it was up to Healthy Home standards, there had
Speaker 4: always been sort of some exemptions right, if it was
Speaker 4: a sitting tendency all the rest of it, you could
Speaker 4: delay it. There are no more delays from the of July,
Speaker 4: which is Tuesday. All residential residential rental properties need to
Speaker 4: comply with the Healthy Home standards. A key part of
Speaker 4: that is the heating requirement. And if you've worked through
Speaker 4: this yourself as a landlord or maybe you're doing these assessments,
Speaker 4: typically you'll use the heating calculator which is on the
Speaker 4: Tenancy Services website, So do a quick online search. You'll
Speaker 4: find it and then it steps you through a process
Speaker 4: so you will measure the space. So the requirement is
Speaker 4: that you need to achieve it's either eighteen or twenty
Speaker 4: degrees on the coldest day and your climatic zone in
Speaker 4: the living space, just the living space of the house,
Speaker 4: and you have to achieve a heating requirement. It'll the
Speaker 4: calculation will allow you to get a number kill a
Speaker 4: what hours, and that's the amount of heating that you
Speaker 4: need to have in that space. If you're a landlord,
Speaker 4: you should have done this. If you're a tenant, you
Speaker 4: should have been given Healthy Home certificate when you started
Speaker 4: your residential tendency. It's part of your tenancy agreement. So
Speaker 4: literally every single property in the country residential tendancy should
Speaker 4: have heating calculation done on it and the tool. I've
Speaker 4: used the tool a number of times in conventional residential properties,
Speaker 4: you know, either a standalone building or semi detached block
Speaker 4: of flats, that sort of thing, and I think the
Speaker 4: tool works reasonably well. I was asked by some people
Speaker 4: that own an apartment to have a look at their
Speaker 4: heating assessment because they had done a heating assessment it
Speaker 4: had told them that in the apartment, which had a
Speaker 4: living space of about forty eight square meters, that they
Speaker 4: required four point four killer watts of heating. As it happens,
Speaker 4: what they went and did was by two high quality
Speaker 4: electric wall heaters that were fixed to the wall so
Speaker 4: they couldn't be moved around, and that each of those
Speaker 4: was two point four kilowatts, So that gave them four
Speaker 4: point eight kilowatts of heating for that space, and they
Speaker 4: thought that they then complied with the regulation. Turns out
Speaker 4: that there is part of the regulation that says that
Speaker 4: if you need a heating requirement of more than two
Speaker 4: point four kilowatts of heating, that can only be a
Speaker 4: heat pump, so they're electric heating. While it provided them
Speaker 4: with the heating, didn't comply with all of the legislation
Speaker 4: because it wasn't a heat pump, which meant that after
Speaker 4: spending the money on the electric heaters, they now had
Speaker 4: to literally take those away or not use them and
Speaker 4: install a heat pump in order to comply with the
Speaker 4: looming deadline. This is an apartment, right, So it's an
Speaker 4: apartment like there are tens of thousands of them around
Speaker 4: the country and more of them to come. There is
Speaker 4: a habitable space below, there is a habitable space. Above
Speaker 4: there is a habitable a space on many of the
Speaker 4: adjoining walls end tenancy wall. So I went did a
Speaker 4: measure up, calculated the floor space, measured the outside wall,
Speaker 4: measured the size of the window, which was a standard
Speaker 4: sliding door with some single glazing aluminium conventional aluminium, went
Speaker 4: away and used the heating tool. But to be fair
Speaker 4: and to be really honest, I faked the numbers right.
Speaker 4: So I looked at it and said, well, actually, the
Speaker 4: floor is not like a floor of a conventional building
Speaker 4: where the outside space is unconditioned. It can get really
Speaker 4: cold because below this apartment is another apartment, and even
Speaker 4: it was uninhabited, it's unlikely to get below I don't know,
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen degrees, maybe ten twelve degrees at the very coldest,
Speaker 4: if it was uninhabited for a period of time. But again,
Speaker 4: in reality, most of the time someone's living there, they're
Speaker 4: warming their place. Your place benefits and the heat that
Speaker 4: you create benefits the person above. So there's a unit above,
Speaker 4: there's a unit below, there's units on two sides of
Speaker 4: this particular building. So I kind of use the tool,
Speaker 4: but I faked the numbers. I'll be really honest, I
Speaker 4: or fudge the numbers to reflect what I thought was
Speaker 4: a real world performance. And so by using the online tool,
Speaker 4: I got to a number of one point two killer
Speaker 4: watts of heating. It's considerably less than four point four
Speaker 4: and less again than three point two. But of course
Speaker 4: I can't use those numbers to provide that evidence for
Speaker 4: a healthy homes assessment because obviously I had manipulated the
Speaker 4: numbers for a real world experience. So we went off
Speaker 4: to a basically a consultant who specializes an energy modeling
Speaker 4: of residential properties, gave them all the details. They created
Speaker 4: a very complex and detailed energy model for that dwelling,
Speaker 4: and their findings came back the other day. The interesting
Speaker 4: thing is the requirement that they determine. This is highly
Speaker 4: scientific using very good data. So bearing in mind the
Speaker 4: requirement initially was found to be four point four then
Speaker 4: the other review said three point six. I did my
Speaker 4: dodgy science and got it down to about one point
Speaker 4: two killo watts of heating required. The actual scientific requirement
Speaker 4: for the heating of that particular apartment ended up being
Speaker 4: zero point five seven killer watts of heating. So that's
Speaker 4: easily achieved by the electric heaters that they've got and
Speaker 4: as a real willed analysis of the requirements of that space.
Speaker 4: And I sat there and I looked at the email
Speaker 4: the other day, and I looked at the report. I
Speaker 4: know the people who did it. I've been to the apartment,
Speaker 4: and it makes sense to me. The concern now is
Speaker 4: that if you are a landlord of an apartment, or
Speaker 4: you're the property manager of an apartment, or you do
Speaker 4: healthy homes assessments and you use the online calculator that
Speaker 4: it's available through tendency services, you're going to get a
Speaker 4: number that doesn't actually I don't know how to put this,
Speaker 4: but doesn't really make sense in terms of what's actually required.
Speaker 4: So the tool doesn't have the nuance to allow for apartments.
Speaker 4: And I know that this has been discussed sort of
Speaker 4: in building circles for a couple of years now that
Speaker 4: the tool is designed for typical residential buildings, and I
Speaker 4: have some sympathy for the government in terms of trying
Speaker 4: to figure out, let's give them a tool that will
Speaker 4: work for most situations, but it doesn't work for apartments.
Speaker 4: So I can't put that any other way. It just
Speaker 4: doesn't work for apartments. So the only way for a
Speaker 4: landlord potentially or an apartment owner who is renting that
Speaker 4: apartment out to get an accurate thing is to go
Speaker 4: off and get an independent heating assessment done, which most won't.
Speaker 4: So potentially we're getting assessments done, creating higher numbers than
Speaker 4: we need and putting in potentially putting in some heat
Speaker 4: pumps and places we don't need them, or providing far
Speaker 4: more heating than's actually realistically required. You may care to comic.
Speaker 4: I found the whole process absolutely fascinating. Right, we're going
Speaker 4: to take a short break. That's my rent over It
Speaker 4: is coming up nine minutes away. From eight that I'd
Speaker 4: love to take your calls on that particular issue. If
Speaker 4: you want to take some exception to what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: by all means, give me a call. Oh, eight hundred
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number.
Speaker 1: Doing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete for
Speaker 1: ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eight News
Speaker 1: Dog ZV A couple of minutes away.
Speaker 4: From News top of the hour. Yes, great song, but
Speaker 4: a little bit early. I think maybe maybe we'll grab
Speaker 4: another call. Hey Stanley, good morning to you.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, look, good morning Pete. Now I have a
Speaker 10: suggestion for people with open fireplaces and you're talking about,
Speaker 10: you know, the air escaping up the chimney. Ye get
Speaker 10: a set of louvers, detachable louvers that fit over it,
Speaker 10: nice attractive ones, and then keep them shut most of
Speaker 10: the time. But in the summer when.
Speaker 4: You want the cooling, Yes, open them up.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Not a bad idea. I like my chimney balloon more.
Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying, because.
Speaker 10: Because you can get you know, the nice attractive ones
Speaker 10: made yea to match the decore of the room, you know, the.
Speaker 4: Look you know. I think the main thing is that
Speaker 4: what we're doing as people are aware that you know,
Speaker 4: and lots and lots of so many older New Zealand houses, villas, bungalows,
Speaker 4: et cetera. Many have fireplaces right and and not that
Speaker 4: many of us use the fireplace anymore. So you can
Speaker 4: either do the retrofit and install more energy efficient heating
Speaker 4: system into them and then seal the roof with a
Speaker 4: flashing at the top with the new ducting running out
Speaker 4: through there, or if you just leave them and don't
Speaker 4: do anything, then they just end up sucking out heat.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of pleased that we've we've dealt with
Speaker 4: that issue hopefully. Last week on the show, we ended
Speaker 4: up talking a lot about cleaning toilets. I did get
Speaker 4: a Texas Morning from someone who used a bag of
Speaker 4: salt this was one of the discussion points from last
Speaker 4: week on the show, and said it worked to treat.
Speaker 4: I actually went out and bought a bag of salt,
Speaker 4: but didn't actually get round of to do it. So
Speaker 4: it's a reminder. Someone's my comment. Someone's just texted and said, hey,
Speaker 4: look I used the tool a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: One of the first sections asked, it's an apartment. I
Speaker 4: agree with you. It does ask if it's an apartment,
Speaker 4: but it still doesn't give you a real world result
Speaker 4: is my comic. So yeah, I'm aware that it does,
Speaker 4: and it factors it in. I just don't think it
Speaker 4: weights it enough. And now I've got proof, right he Oh,
Speaker 4: we're back after new Sport and weather top of the
Speaker 4: rat eight.
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting with stealing, fixing with fens, or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter
Speaker 1: wolf Gabbi call on eighty the resident builder on Youth
Speaker 1: Talks B.
Speaker 4: Your news Talk said, be welcome back to the show.
Speaker 11: It is.
Speaker 4: Let me say six minutes almost seven minutes after eight
Speaker 4: wheel talk all things building constructions through at eight thirty.
Speaker 4: At eight thirty, the Red Climb Pass will be with
Speaker 4: us and will jump into the garden. So any of
Speaker 4: your gardening or entomological questions you can address them to
Speaker 4: Red from eight thirty this morning. But right now we'll
Speaker 4: continue you talking building construction. And I've got a flood
Speaker 4: of texts which is awesome about my comments about the
Speaker 4: heating requirements for healthy homes as applied to apartments in particular,
Speaker 4: and if you use the Online Tool, which is the
Speaker 4: tool that we're all encouraged to use by Tendency Services. Basically,
Speaker 4: I don't think it's nuanced enough to give you a
Speaker 4: realistic view. And I've had a number of people text
Speaker 4: in saying, you know that they've used it and they've
Speaker 4: ended up with similar results where they're getting really high requirements,
Speaker 4: you know, three four killer watts of heating for an apartment.
Speaker 4: Where do you go, Well, you can do what my
Speaker 4: clients ended up doing, partly on my recommendation and finding
Speaker 4: basically a building survey or a building scientist who can
Speaker 4: undertake a proper basically energy modeling of the space to
Speaker 4: determine what heating requirement you need to achieve the objective,
Speaker 4: and the objective is to make sure that the building
Speaker 4: can be twenty degrees on the coldest day of the year.
Speaker 4: So how you achieve that you have to be able
Speaker 4: to prove it. Typically we go to the tool online
Speaker 4: tool to prove it. I think the online tool, even
Speaker 4: though you can select apartments, is still not nuanced enough
Speaker 4: to give you a real figure that's a realistic figure.
Speaker 4: So this is going to be a bit of a challenge. George,
Speaker 4: A very good morning to you.
Speaker 18: Yeah, George, we've got a reasonably modern house with a
Speaker 18: corrugated iron roof which is pitched, and we have a
Speaker 18: range hood which leaks water down through the center of it,
Speaker 18: which is going over the motor. It drips onto the stovetop,
Speaker 18: and we've had a plumberh instored it out and he
Speaker 18: thought it might have been to do with a flashing,
Speaker 18: and he with that, but no nothing there. So I
Speaker 18: suggested to him, because it was about or maybe a
Speaker 18: foot above the roof, that maybe rain was splashing up
Speaker 18: into the mushroom dome and coming down. So he raised
Speaker 18: it up probably another half meter, pretty high up the roof.
Speaker 18: But we've still got water coming down through the chimney part.
Speaker 18: So yesterday I went up into the ceiling and just
Speaker 18: to see whether in fact it could have been the flashing.
Speaker 18: But there's no water at all around the outside of
Speaker 18: that chimney part. So could it be Capello reaction pets
Speaker 18: that's taking the water back up under the mushroom part
Speaker 18: and coming down.
Speaker 4: No, I think that what you're getting is condensation, right,
Speaker 4: So it's not a leak, it's condensation.
Speaker 18: Really, there's quite a bit of water comes down.
Speaker 4: Well, if you know. So essentially what you're getting is
Speaker 4: the water is inside the ducting, right, and you're seeing
Speaker 4: it at the range hood.
Speaker 18: Correct there, stripping onto the those top.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So when you go up into the roof space and
Speaker 4: you look around the exterior of the ducting and the
Speaker 4: flashing and you don't see any moisture, then you go, Okay,
Speaker 4: the water is getting in into the ducting somewhere. So
Speaker 4: you go onto the roof. The plumber has extended that
Speaker 4: ducting up and then they've they've got a mushroom on
Speaker 4: top of it. And you know, water, water can do
Speaker 4: interesting things. But and yes, I've seen it drive upwards,
Speaker 4: but it typically has to have something that it's on
Speaker 4: in order for it to be driven up. So I
Speaker 4: know what those mushrooms look like. I think it'd be
Speaker 4: really unlikely that that wind driven rain is going to
Speaker 4: go nip underneath the mushroom up over the lip and inside,
Speaker 4: and potentially by extending the length of that uninsulated ducting
Speaker 4: through the roof, you're actually creating more condensation.
Speaker 18: Really, that's quite interesting. Yes, it doesn't need to have
Speaker 18: any wind. In fact, it doesn't even have to rain hard.
Speaker 18: But in saying that, when it's cold. We're in central Target,
Speaker 18: and I mean in the winter it's cold, we can
Speaker 18: be really cold, but we don't get any condensation even
Speaker 18: when we've got cold fog. I would have.
Speaker 4: Imagined anywhere else in the house.
Speaker 18: I no, no, I've got a really dry house. But
Speaker 18: what I'm suggesting to you is if it was condensation,
Speaker 18: then when it's cold and foggy outside, why are we
Speaker 18: not getting condensation dripping out?
Speaker 4: Then it really well, condensation occurs when you've got the
Speaker 4: right combination of features, right, So you've got moisture laid
Speaker 4: in the air that attaches to a cold surface. So
Speaker 4: when it's if it's cold outside, you've got an uninsulated
Speaker 4: metal tube, right, and then you've got moisture inside your house,
Speaker 4: which is your house always will have a certain amount
Speaker 4: of moisture that's then being effectively drawn to the rain
Speaker 4: hood because it's open, right, so it's extracting. Even when
Speaker 4: it's turned off, it's still open, right, so air is
Speaker 4: still flowing there. I'm wondering whether it's the the air
Speaker 4: that's inside your house that's going up the ducting And
Speaker 4: because like most of us, for our range hoods, it'd
Speaker 4: be in a kitchen unit. It would go up and
Speaker 4: it would go straight through the wall, or would go
Speaker 4: up and it would go across in some flexible ducting
Speaker 4: through the back of the units and out through the wall.
Speaker 4: But because yours goes through the roof, you've got this
Speaker 4: metal tube that extends up and of course at the
Speaker 4: top it's going to be cold on the outside with
Speaker 4: moisture on the inside. That air is going up, and
Speaker 4: that moisture is then hitting the side of the tube,
Speaker 4: turning into conensate and dripping back down again. That's what
Speaker 4: I think is is that's what I think is most
Speaker 4: likely to happen if there's no other leak and you
Speaker 4: have me able to find a leak.
Speaker 18: No, Yeah, why would it not be a common problem
Speaker 18: in Pete?
Speaker 4: To be fear not that many range hoods ducked through
Speaker 4: the roof. Most range shoulds tend to duck through the walls.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got some ducting for a laundry that
Speaker 4: goes vertically, but it's a much shorter run and so
Speaker 4: I haven't to be fair, I haven't been into check
Speaker 4: whether there might be some condensation in there, but it
Speaker 4: would be interesting to you know, if there's someone like
Speaker 4: an eco advisor in your area kind it would be
Speaker 4: quite interesting to see if they would give you a
Speaker 4: bit of advice on that. But I would investigate the
Speaker 4: condensation if there's no obvious leak.
Speaker 18: Right, okay, thank you for that. My pleasure with trains
Speaker 18: for the heat traits, for the assistant that people have
Speaker 18: talked about it. We've got one in our house. As
Speaker 18: there is we knew how so, I said, and as
Speaker 18: by a wood burner in the ceiling which are an
Speaker 18: open sort of an event thing, and in our three
Speaker 18: bedrooms we have a.
Speaker 17: An outlet and grew up to.
Speaker 18: Stop the coming out. Well, when we first moved in here,
Speaker 18: it was the most useless thing you can imagine. Turned
Speaker 18: on the power and nothing happened. So I actually got
Speaker 18: up into the ceiling then and found that where the
Speaker 18: motor was and the conducting the tube had come off heat.
Speaker 18: It wasn't fast numbery well, it was really just taken
Speaker 18: on a couple of years later, we don't use it
Speaker 18: because we don't want the vedoms to be too hot.
Speaker 18: But a couple of years later, when I was up
Speaker 18: yesterday having a look at this other range or thing,
Speaker 18: I had a look again and where the joint is
Speaker 18: where it goes to the three bedrooms, another plastic unit there.
Speaker 18: It just distributes it. It had come off, so it
Speaker 18: seems that, you know, if people do find it not
Speaker 18: re effected, it wouldn't be bad idea to have a
Speaker 18: look up in the ceilings are still attached to what that's.
Speaker 4: Absolutely Hey, good on you for getting up there and
Speaker 4: being really thorough with looking after your house. It's a
Speaker 4: great idea, George, thank you very much. I might do
Speaker 4: a bit of reading, in a bit of research about
Speaker 4: it and see whether it is actually likely to be
Speaker 4: the condensation your news talk zeb remember root climb passed
Speaker 4: from Make thirty. It is eight fifteen news talk zebby
Speaker 4: Today I'm talking with Murray Knight, Managing directors thinking Holymer's International,
Speaker 4: and we're talking about in Juris. Good morning, Murray, tell
Speaker 4: us what is in Juris?
Speaker 17: Good morning, Peak Well in Juris is one hundred percent
Speaker 17: silicon roof coating designed to restore water tightness to a
Speaker 17: wide variety of existing roof types. It forms a monolithic
Speaker 17: and seamless membrane, stopping leaks and helps extend the life
Speaker 17: of a roof. It has been used extensively for fifty
Speaker 17: years and other markets, and we have been promoting the
Speaker 17: in Juris in the New Zealand markets for the past
Speaker 17: two years.
Speaker 4: So Murray, tell us what the key benefits are.
Speaker 17: Well, our view is why replacement you can restore and
Speaker 17: the Injurius has many benefits. So I'll just run a
Speaker 17: few through a few of the key one Conjuris you
Speaker 17: can apply as a single coat. It cures quickly to
Speaker 17: form a durable, seamless water type membrane that is breathable, waterproof,
Speaker 17: and permanently flexible. It is u be stable and maintained
Speaker 17: its elasticity for decades following the correct surface preparation. Injuris
Speaker 17: will provide excellent adhesion to a wide variety of very substrates,
Speaker 17: including metal, single ply membranes such as beauty ol, concrete, disbestos,
Speaker 17: flame on, bitchul them, you name it. Really it's also
Speaker 17: really easy to apply. You can use either a long map,
Speaker 17: microfiber rolla or brush or if it's a large job
Speaker 17: that's spread on. It's also really easy to use. You
Speaker 17: use it straight from the pail, no mixing required, and
Speaker 17: it's rain proof in thirty minutes it's great for climates
Speaker 17: that we have here in Auckland. If you have a
Speaker 17: flat roof, it's great for that as well because it's
Speaker 17: unaffected by standing water. And Jurius is a fast, efficient
Speaker 17: and economical solution. So if you're looking for a sustainable
Speaker 17: roofing solution that is environmentally responsible, it's a great option
Speaker 17: to consider colors. The only cl two colors that's the
Speaker 17: mid gray and white, and the white can be used
Speaker 17: if you're looking for a call roof as it meets
Speaker 17: the reflective index rating required to be classified as core roofing.
Speaker 4: That's some really helpful information. Now, if people want to
Speaker 4: buy Injurius, where do they go?
Speaker 17: Well, you can visit our distributor, shellc Out New Zealand Limited.
Speaker 17: They are at seven Woodson Place, Wira Valley. We'll give
Speaker 17: them a call on eight hundred one two three nine hundred,
Speaker 17: or if you want more information, you can just visit
Speaker 17: the website siliconf Building dot com.
Speaker 4: And Marie, thanks for dropping a bucket out to me.
Speaker 4: I've put it on. It's a small roof. I need
Speaker 4: to extend its life for a bit and so far
Speaker 4: no leaks really appreciate it. Thanks for your time, Murray,
Speaker 4: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder
Speaker 1: on Newstalks.
Speaker 4: NB your News TALKSB we're talking all things building construction.
Speaker 4: A couple of useful suggestions for our previous caller, George
Speaker 4: with the leak that might be coming from the ducting
Speaker 4: that extends from the range hood through the roof, which
Speaker 4: is you know, it's a it's not uncommon, but it's
Speaker 4: also not terribly common. So a couple of people have said,
Speaker 4: where are they about the seam orientation of the seam
Speaker 4: on the duck. The rivets aren't waterproof. Physics works the
Speaker 4: same way, so there you go. It might look it
Speaker 4: might be an issue with the duck. Nine times out
Speaker 4: of ten, it's usually the seam of the flu that's
Speaker 4: not sealed from the range hood from JK and Dargavill
Speaker 4: And actually a number of calls have said it's about
Speaker 4: the seam of the ducting. So I have a look
Speaker 4: at that, George, next time you're on the roof safely
Speaker 4: Colin Greetings.
Speaker 19: Good morning, Hey, hey, just to ask your advice on
Speaker 19: getting double blazing in. I've got a cup of quotes
Speaker 19: come through next week for retro fit on an order
Speaker 19: house which is at nineteen eighty six, and I'm just
Speaker 19: not sure what I'm doing the right thing. I'm very
Speaker 19: cold to you in the winter and very hot in
Speaker 19: the summer, and it's a native frame cout so it
Speaker 19: hasn't got anything that I can put that. Are they
Speaker 19: still the heating through? I have two heat pumps, but
Speaker 19: it's not working as well as I would like it too.
Speaker 19: So I'm just wondering your ideas on retrofit double glazing.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, look, I could declare an interest. For the
Speaker 4: last ten years I've acted as a brand ambassador for
Speaker 4: Metro Performance Glass, who do the retro double glazing, and
Speaker 4: I do so because I know that double glazing is
Speaker 4: a really good thing. Right, So the numbers don't like
Speaker 4: single glazing units let out x amount of energy and
Speaker 4: double glozing units end up letting out a considerable amount
Speaker 4: less than that, so they do perform the sciences there,
Speaker 4: So is double glazing good solution? Yes, And in a
Speaker 4: house like yours where perhaps you know, if it's an
Speaker 4: a frame, then you've got large.
Speaker 19: Amounts of Yeah. And Neil built home many many many
Speaker 19: years ago, and the a frame that is the curse,
Speaker 19: to be honest.
Speaker 4: But they're a challenging I know, but so yes, and look,
Speaker 4: ideally you want to look at other things as well.
Speaker 4: Can you add some insulation and have you got reasonable
Speaker 4: insulation in the walls and the ceilings and the under floor.
Speaker 19: If you can put their phone about eight years ago.
Speaker 19: It seems to work sort of too, about a couple
Speaker 19: of great degrees.
Speaker 10: But note of that.
Speaker 4: So yes, you know all of the stuff that I've
Speaker 4: read over a number of years now double glazing works, So.
Speaker 9: Thanks so much as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, good on, good on, you take care of
Speaker 4: calling all the best and Graham, Hello there, how are you?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 22: Thanks Pete. Look what I'm sort of trying to get
Speaker 22: to the bottom of and hopefully you can help me here.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I think you're Siri or your AI has
Speaker 4: listened to your conversation and once he wants to get involved. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm not AI. I might not even be that intelligent,
Speaker 4: but hey, let's let's have a crackit. What's Christian?
Speaker 22: Look, the problem is about eight years ago I had
Speaker 22: nanoclear put on around my blue denim alumen and framing
Speaker 22: for the windows indoors. Now, what's happened with this stuff?
Speaker 22: It's flaked and it's like it's sort of become very scaly.
Speaker 22: It's got sunburn given to it or something. I don't know,
Speaker 22: but with the way these the window frames are, it's
Speaker 22: looking to the stage of I don't know how to
Speaker 22: treat treat it, to try and get it, get the
Speaker 22: scaly stuff off, to repaint it. It's all very well,
Speaker 22: sort of just throwing a bit of sandpaper over it. Look,
Speaker 22: it's just not going to work.
Speaker 4: Graham. What I would suggest is I actually know the
Speaker 4: guys or some of the people involved, So go back
Speaker 4: to them, right, go directly back to them, ask them
Speaker 4: to come out and have a look. If it's a problem,
Speaker 4: they'll fix it and just go from there. So just
Speaker 4: go straight back in touch with then OA clear, All right,
Speaker 4: all this one, Take care, Bob then and Carl, greetings.
Speaker 23: Good morning. Thanks for tipping me in there. Yeah, just
Speaker 23: about these healthy homes heating standards, I've done exactly the
Speaker 23: same as you have. I've set there for days, poking.
Speaker 4: Numbers in for what type of building.
Speaker 23: Residential mainly units twenty five twenty seven square meters, and
Speaker 23: it all comes out to a heat pump a regulation standard.
Speaker 4: Is in more than two point four kilotts of heating requires.
Speaker 23: You're going from a room that needed twenty four killer
Speaker 23: watts twenty four hundred watts to heat it keep it
Speaker 23: to that eighteen degrees standard. You go from that to
Speaker 23: a six kilo heat pump under the recommendations of their
Speaker 23: heating standard, which is absolutely crazy. And that's just for
Speaker 23: a standard to bedroom unit unit in town. And the
Speaker 23: main point you're missed is the the calculations that is
Speaker 23: all grigged up to have heat pumps in every room
Speaker 23: in the house and that's.
Speaker 4: Not required because the healthy Home standards for heating is
Speaker 4: simply that you need it. But the requirement is that
Speaker 4: you can achieve is eighteen or twenty degrees twenty degrees
Speaker 4: in living space. Yeah, twenty degrees on the coldest on
Speaker 4: what they assume is the coldest day of the year,
Speaker 4: depending on your climatic zone.
Speaker 12: Right, the gug glader's rigged out to.
Speaker 23: Recommend a heat pump be put in.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to leak to that conclusion. If you
Speaker 4: want to go there, you can. All I'm saying is
Speaker 4: that in this particular instance, right, So this very specific
Speaker 4: building that I've been involved with quite a bit over
Speaker 4: the last couple of months, I went, I visited it,
Speaker 4: I measured it, I used I looked at the Healthy
Speaker 4: Homes assessments that have been done by two other people,
Speaker 4: both of whom were not known to each other, So
Speaker 4: two independent assessments producing two different results. Both of those
Speaker 4: results it was either like three point six and four
Speaker 4: point four heating requirement. And then I use the tool,
Speaker 4: but I fudged the numbers. I'll be quite honest about that,
Speaker 4: because if you're talking about a floor in an apartment,
Speaker 4: it's not like a floor in a standard building, where
Speaker 4: it might be an unconditioned space below right. It's even
Speaker 4: if it was uninhabited, it's still going to perform differently
Speaker 4: to an open space. So I kind of fudge them,
Speaker 4: and I got a number of a heating requirement what
Speaker 4: I felt intuitively based on my own experience, and that
Speaker 4: it would probably be somewhere around one to one point two.
Speaker 4: And that's roughly the number that I got. That confirmed
Speaker 4: my suspicion that the tool is not nuanced enough to
Speaker 4: deal with apartments. So we then sent it to an
Speaker 4: end and qualified heating assessment basically heating scientist right for
Speaker 4: one of a better term, who did energy modeling of
Speaker 4: the building and came back with a figure, and that
Speaker 4: figure was zero point five seven killer watts of heating required.
Speaker 4: So what's going to be really interesting is that, I
Speaker 4: guess for the property owner they can take that report
Speaker 4: because you know, I mean, you'd have to have a
Speaker 4: similar level of qualification to the person who wrote the
Speaker 4: report in order to dispute the findings, right, And I
Speaker 4: don't think most people involved in healthy Homes assessments have
Speaker 4: that level of qualification, in which case there's some there's
Speaker 4: credentials qualification and a result that would indicate zero point
Speaker 4: five seven killer watts of heating is sufficient, and then
Speaker 4: you attach that to the healthy Homes report and say
Speaker 4: this is the figure that I'm using, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to stand by that, and if you want to challenge it,
Speaker 4: go and get your own building scientists to do a modeling.
Speaker 4: So but you know, like I'm letting, it's the it's
Speaker 4: the professionals, right who are doing this now, and that's
Speaker 4: the result. And I think that's really really interesting, and
Speaker 4: I think it's going to raise a lot of questions
Speaker 4: around how we do the heating calculations for apartments in particular,
Speaker 4: because again, and I hesitate to say this, I don't
Speaker 4: think the existing online tool is nuanced enough to give
Speaker 4: an accurate reading, is my opinion? Really appreciate you, Cal,
Speaker 4: I think we might talk about this again next week
Speaker 4: on the show, because right now I'm actually looking at
Speaker 4: my ol box designs from Wingspan. So let's get into
Speaker 4: the garden. Redclinb past on the way.
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident
Speaker 1: Builder with Peter WOLFCAMF call oh eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talks EDB. For more from The Resident Builder
Speaker 1: with Peter WOLFCAF. Listen live to News Talks EDB on
Speaker 1: Sunday Mornings from Sex, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio