WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 29 June 2025 

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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<v Speaker 1>Camp from News Talks it by helping you get those

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<v Speaker 1>DIY projects done right. The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp

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<v Speaker 1>Call eight hundred eighteen eighty Youth Talk said.

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<v Speaker 2>Bizz, even when it's dark, even in the grass is

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<v Speaker 2>overgrown in the yard, even when it doug is too

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<v Speaker 2>old to bar, and when we're sitting at the table

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to starve.

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<v Speaker 3>Sissor even when we are ben even when you're therell.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Pete wolf Camp. This is the Resident

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<v Speaker 4>Builder on and we are here to talk about all

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<v Speaker 4>things building construction, the rules, the regulations, the practical, the

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<v Speaker 4>know how, the tips and tricks let's say, generated in

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<v Speaker 4>part from you as the listener, because people do learn

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<v Speaker 4>from you when you're talking about the dilemmas that you have.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a couple of conversations during the course of

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<v Speaker 4>the week and people are going, actually I enjoy the

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<v Speaker 4>show because I learned something. When if you've got an

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<v Speaker 4>issue with waterproofing, you've got an issue with straightening the

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<v Speaker 4>boundary fence, if whatever, people will learn from that. So

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<v Speaker 4>thank you. For your contribution, and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 4>hearing from you today on the show, we can talk

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<v Speaker 4>all things building, construction, renovating, home maintenance. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 4>had another bout of heavy weather, and certainly not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot is going to prepare you if you know the

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<v Speaker 4>stream nearby floods and inundates the house. But there are

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<v Speaker 4>also and inevitably when you go and look at houses

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps that have had and talking to someone today again

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<v Speaker 4>or the other day, had that heavy range during the

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<v Speaker 4>course of the week, discovered a leak, You go and

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<v Speaker 4>investigate a little bit and find that actually the flashing

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't securely fastened down, or perhaps the catchpit hadn't been

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<v Speaker 4>cleaned out for a period of time. So as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as that more than a little bit of rain arrives,

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<v Speaker 4>the catch pit overwhelms, sends the water down the driveway,

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<v Speaker 4>that pushes it underneath the house, and suddenly the back

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<v Speaker 4>door jams because the piles got wet. You know, these

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<v Speaker 4>things are all connected. So we're joining the dots on

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<v Speaker 4>the show in a sense today, taking your calls, your questions,

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<v Speaker 4>your queries, and I wouldn't mind putting out there just

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a public service announcement, but also something

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<v Speaker 4>that we've talked about. If I think about our theme

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<v Speaker 4>of the show over the last four or five years,

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<v Speaker 4>the Healthy Home Standards has been part of it. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the legislation was announced. Gosh, it would have to

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<v Speaker 4>be like two ty seventeen twenty eighteen initially that this

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<v Speaker 4>was going to come in. When I say Healthy Home Standards,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about the rules and regulations. I was about

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<v Speaker 4>to say new, but they're raally not that new, given

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<v Speaker 4>how long we've been talking about them. That ensure that

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<v Speaker 4>rental properties for people who are renters are of a

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<v Speaker 4>suitable standard that they keep you warm. So you need

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<v Speaker 4>to fixed form of heating that they if you heat it,

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<v Speaker 4>the heat stays in. So where possible, insulation needed to

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<v Speaker 4>be installed in the underfloor and in the roof space.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've got some heat and you've got some insulation,

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<v Speaker 4>then you want to make sure that the drafts don't

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<v Speaker 4>diminish the performance of that. So draft proofing, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>rules around weather tightness and science. There's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of legislation there to ensure that rental properties are of

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<v Speaker 4>a reasonable standard. Funny thing is, of course that many

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<v Speaker 4>new homes wouldn't actually comply with the Healthy Home standards.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've talked about it for a long time. We've

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<v Speaker 4>had various experts on the show. We've discussed it all

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<v Speaker 4>with a view that one day it'll be law and

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<v Speaker 4>there will be no exceptions, there will be no extensions,

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<v Speaker 4>there will be no more time to get properties up

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<v Speaker 4>to scratch. And as it happens, that day is Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>So on Tuesday, the first of July, all New Zealand

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<v Speaker 4>rental properties will need to comply with the Healthy Homes legislation.

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<v Speaker 4>So in the past and the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 4>if it didn't comply, as a landlord, you had ninety

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<v Speaker 4>days from the beginning of a new tenancy, so if

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<v Speaker 4>you had a long term sitting tenant, you were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of off the hook for a little while. Well, all

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<v Speaker 4>of those exceptions, as to the best of my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 4>have all gone, So Tuesday is the day. A little

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<v Speaker 4>later on, I want to just share with you a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a story and a it sounds a bit extravagant,

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<v Speaker 4>but an investigation, I guess or a piece of research, no,

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<v Speaker 4>not even research, an investigation that I've been part of

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<v Speaker 4>which has raised some real issues around the tool that

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<v Speaker 4>we might use to determine the heating standards. The online tool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's available through the Tendency website. When it comes to apartments. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll go into that a little bit later on. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>i'd like to hear from you if you've got a question,

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<v Speaker 4>if you've got a ponderance, a musing an inquiry about

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<v Speaker 4>anything to do with your place, whether you own it,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you rent it, whether you've been there for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time, or perhaps you've just moved in and discovered that, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>actually it's not performing quite as well as I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was going to. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 4>is the number to call. You can text as well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's nine two nine two or zbzb from your mobile phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course you can email me. It's Pete at

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<v Speaker 4>Newstooksib dot co dot nz so Pete p E t

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<v Speaker 4>E at newstook Sib dot Co dot e so. As

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<v Speaker 4>we approach craiky the middle of the year, first of

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<v Speaker 4>July is also halfway through the year. If you're like me,

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<v Speaker 4>you're probably thinking, I thought I would have got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more done this year in terms of those projects

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<v Speaker 4>that I wanted to get done around the house where

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<v Speaker 4>it's not helping at the moment for those exterior jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Other stuff kind of gets in the way. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you're working away on some projects, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about them, you want to ask some questions, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to check that you're heading in the right direction. We

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<v Speaker 4>can talk about all these things and we'll probably end

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<v Speaker 4>up talking about something that I wouldn't have expected on

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<v Speaker 4>the show today. So if you've got a tricky question,

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<v Speaker 4>a dilemma that's been rumbling around the back of the

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<v Speaker 4>head going I don't know how I'm going to fix that,

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<v Speaker 4>give me a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 4>call now. Inevitably we get busy later on in the show,

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<v Speaker 4>so now it's a great time to call. The lines

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<v Speaker 4>are free. I'm still fresh and enthusiastic when out last

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<v Speaker 4>night to a great play musical on at the ALTAA Center,

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<v Speaker 4>which was awesome. So feeling good, looking forward to your calls.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Call me out meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Twice God was but maybe called Pete first. D you Walcab,

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<v Speaker 1>the resident builder. News Talk said be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, News Talk, sa'd be coming up. It is actually

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen minutes after six, so the lines are open. The

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<v Speaker 4>number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty quick text

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<v Speaker 4>before we go to Richie, what's your opinion? Says due

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<v Speaker 4>of using ground screws to build a new deck on

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<v Speaker 4>a flat site instead of the traditional method for foundations

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<v Speaker 4>will be a lot cheaper. And I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 4>that's a question or a statement on your parts due

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<v Speaker 4>opinion of using ground scows. I actually think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>really really useful suggestion and a and a really useful

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<v Speaker 4>sort of solution to what has been the conventional manner,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, you know, you go out to build a deck,

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<v Speaker 4>you figure out where your piles need to do need

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<v Speaker 4>to be. You then dig down minimum sort of four hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred and fifty square down until you hit well

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<v Speaker 4>into the clay. So you want to be a minimum

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<v Speaker 4>of four hundred and fifty in the ground. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>to then take that spoil which doubles in size when

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<v Speaker 4>you dig it out. You've got to get rid of

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<v Speaker 4>that somewhere. Then you're going to get the posts. You

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<v Speaker 4>can stand the post up. You're going to either if

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<v Speaker 4>you've got a big enough job, you might phone up

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<v Speaker 4>and get some Readymax otherwise you're going to buy some bags,

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<v Speaker 4>or you're going to buy some builders mix some BM

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<v Speaker 4>twenty and some cement and mix that either in a

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<v Speaker 4>mixer or in a wheelbarrow, et cetera, et cetera, versus

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<v Speaker 4>someone coming and putting those piles, those screw piles in

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<v Speaker 4>place for you, setting them up neatly to the right

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<v Speaker 4>height that you can simply bolt the bearer straight to

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<v Speaker 4>the top of it, and then you're building. So you've

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<v Speaker 4>got nothing to take away, nothing to bring in, just

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<v Speaker 4>the screw piles. So yeah, I would seriously consider it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been watching a renovation that a made of mine's

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<v Speaker 4>doing around the corner. He's the chippy acting for the

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<v Speaker 4>owners and an existing sort of nineteen fifties house with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of work happening on the nineteen fifties part

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<v Speaker 4>of the building, but a new extension at the back

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<v Speaker 4>of probably about i don't know, five by five, so

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<v Speaker 4>not massive two story, all on screw piles. The benefit

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<v Speaker 4>there was probably would have been quite difficult to get

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<v Speaker 4>a digger in, quite difficult to get equipment in, quite

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to get spoil out, and then getting concrete pump.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you can pump to almost anywhere that's that's doable,

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<v Speaker 4>but again tricky driveway. So yeah, depending on the site,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd certainly consider it absolutely. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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<v Speaker 4>eighty is the number to call. Let me grab the

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<v Speaker 4>mouse and Richie, what's going on? How can I help?

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<v Speaker 4>How you going, kay, Richie?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm well, yeah, great.

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<v Speaker 6>We recently moved into a sort of renovated bungalow at

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<v Speaker 6>christ Church and where there was an extension room put

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<v Speaker 6>on years ago. There was a leak in through the roof,

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<v Speaker 6>like quite a flat roof surface and in behind one

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<v Speaker 6>of the walls. Now we pretty confident we've got to

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<v Speaker 6>the bottom of it. We've had a few people expert

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<v Speaker 6>in to sort it. There was a wee bit of damage,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, just from the moisture and mold and things

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<v Speaker 6>like that, which I feel cleaned probably eighty nine looking great.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just how long before we put the jib wall

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<v Speaker 6>back on. I'm a bit nervous to cover it up.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously right, perfectly dry, but how dry is dry? And

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<v Speaker 6>how long would you suggest we wait to be sure

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<v Speaker 6>we've got on top of the leak.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I suppose until the next big storm. So you

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<v Speaker 4>know if you were, well, if you're top of the

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<v Speaker 4>South Island in Auckland, that sort of thing. Actually, most

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<v Speaker 4>of the country got lashed over the last few days,

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<v Speaker 4>chances are if it didn't leak now, And in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I was out yesterday having coffee and the person I

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<v Speaker 4>was with went, you know, you know that flat roof

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<v Speaker 4>at my place, Well, it started leaking during the week.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think if you had a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 4>rain over the last week or so and leak, then

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<v Speaker 4>I think you can be reasonably assured that it'll be

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<v Speaker 4>okay in terms of moisture content. So if you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>a new build or any work with a building content,

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<v Speaker 4>the councilor will come and inspect the moisture content of

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<v Speaker 4>the framing prior to lining, and typically they're looking for

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<v Speaker 4>about eighteen percent. Now, not many people have moisture testers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're actually quite cheap. Funnily enough, years ago, I tell

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<v Speaker 4>you I bought one off trade me right, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it cost me the grand total of about nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>dollars fifty for this moisture tester. You know, two prongs

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<v Speaker 4>on it. You just poke it into the timber, press

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<v Speaker 4>the button and it tells you what the moisture content is,

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought, just as an indicative tool, that could

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<v Speaker 4>be quite useful, right, so ahead, because typically the building

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<v Speaker 4>inspector comes out, they've got very you know, high quality

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<v Speaker 4>equipment that they need to get calibrated, I believe every

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<v Speaker 4>three to six months to keep up to date. And

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<v Speaker 4>those tools cost about twelve hundred bucks, right, so I'm thinking, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>this will be interesting. So I get my nineteen dollars

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<v Speaker 4>fifty trade me moisture tester, go round and test record

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<v Speaker 4>the readings and then followed the inspector around afterwards. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was within zero point five of a percent. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>if you had one of those and you tested the

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<v Speaker 4>timber and the timber was somewhere around the eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 4>moisture content, then you're happy. I'd be happy with that.

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<v Speaker 4>And the idea is that that below that it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>to have the conditions to generate mold growth. Right, so

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<v Speaker 4>you need a certain amount of dampness in the timber.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you encapsulate that it's less likely to dry out.

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<v Speaker 4>So we want the timber to be really dry when

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<v Speaker 4>we're lining. So if you've got a mate who's got

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<v Speaker 4>one test it if it's about eighteen percent. You're fine,

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<v Speaker 4>all right. In that area that was exposed and that

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<v Speaker 4>that got wet, did you notice some mold growth? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and you've treated that with something.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, clean, that treated it. Yeah, yes, it's almost all gone.

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<v Speaker 6>You like, it's to a point where, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 6>see you can sort of see signs of it, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's clean and dry in my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay. I mean, if you want to take a

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<v Speaker 4>real belt embracest approach, the other thing to do, because

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<v Speaker 4>is that timber the old original timber so nineteen thirties

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<v Speaker 4>for bungalow, or is it more modern timber.

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<v Speaker 6>It's no, most of the timber there's new. I can redone,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's more mold on the back of lining of

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<v Speaker 6>a wall behind the shore. It was sort of like

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<v Speaker 6>the backside of some waterproof cub Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So again, if you were able to test it,

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<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't test the face that you're lining. You try

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<v Speaker 4>and get the tester in at the back and see

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<v Speaker 4>whether that moisture content where the timber is touching the

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<v Speaker 4>old lining has actually dropped out.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, all right, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Luck with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully it's sorted all the best. Take care Richie by

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<v Speaker 4>oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. Hello, Susie, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>good morning, How are you very well?

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you and you good great early early Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure as how can I help?

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<v Speaker 8>We had a we had a fence, a pung of

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<v Speaker 8>fence that over when we when we had the very

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<v Speaker 8>heavy rain a couple of days ago. It's fallen over

0:14:39.015 --> 0:14:43.375
<v Speaker 8>onto outside of the property. We've had quite a few

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<v Speaker 8>issues with the fence and the fence line with the neighbors,

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<v Speaker 8>and we're just wondering whether this is a fence falling

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<v Speaker 8>overnight that is something that we would be covered by

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<v Speaker 8>insurance or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I have to say, I mean when you say

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<v Speaker 4>a pung of fence is this it brings back memories.

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<v Speaker 4>We had one at home. It was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know where we even got the pun of logs from,

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<v Speaker 4>but the idea was that you kind of just dug

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<v Speaker 4>a trench, stood them upright, and packed the soil around it,

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<v Speaker 4>and hey, presto. These fence incredibly sustainable, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that you're harvesting something from the forest. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no concrete there, but that by the by, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of you know, is that a fence that

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<v Speaker 4>would let's say, be part of the Fencing Act. No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not. And would they be particularly long lasting? Probably

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<v Speaker 4>not either. I would have thought so if the yours

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<v Speaker 4>has fallen over, maybe that's the end of its life span.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wonder whether if you went to the insurance

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<v Speaker 4>and explained what type of fence you had, the insurer

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<v Speaker 4>might say, well, actually, you know what, it probably is

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of its life and just got a

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<v Speaker 4>helping hand by the recent rain.

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<v Speaker 9>Probably.

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<v Speaker 10>Well.

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<v Speaker 8>The other thing is my husband is sort of wondering

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<v Speaker 8>if the fence is on the boundary or is within

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<v Speaker 8>the neighbors who's responsible for it. It's like, if it's

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<v Speaker 8>on the boundary, we're both responsible. If it's actually within

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<v Speaker 8>the neighbors section, is it their responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I would see it. You know, typically, if

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing a fence, we determine the boundary first, and

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<v Speaker 4>in some instances that's not that easy, right, if there's

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<v Speaker 4>no boundary markets then how do you know without getting

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<v Speaker 4>a survey? And then you know, conventional sort of wisdom

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<v Speaker 4>would be, if we take the stringline, we make that

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<v Speaker 4>the center of the post and then we build the

0:16:38.535 --> 0:16:41.615
<v Speaker 4>fence there and then effectively it's shared. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>do happen to know where the boundary is and you

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<v Speaker 4>can determine that, and then if it's solely on your property,

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<v Speaker 4>then I would say that that's solely your responsibility. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's solely on the neighbors, then I think it becomes

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<v Speaker 4>their responsibility. And hopefully that you would go to their

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<v Speaker 4>insurer or they would go to their insuran in order

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<v Speaker 4>to have it repaired.

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<v Speaker 8>And that information will be held with counsel.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, sorry to be so blunt. No, council unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>to have any information at all about the fence. They

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<v Speaker 4>will have information about the market section size. So in

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<v Speaker 4>some cases and it as all of those files around

0:17:24.175 --> 0:17:27.015
<v Speaker 4>surveying and so on get transferred across to a more

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<v Speaker 4>digital format, the information held is much more precise. But

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<v Speaker 4>you might find, for example, that at one end of

0:17:33.775 --> 0:17:36.375
<v Speaker 4>your section you've actually got a boundary marker. You can

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<v Speaker 4>go to the property file, find what the the distance

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<v Speaker 4>of your property is from the file and then measure

0:17:44.215 --> 0:17:46.055
<v Speaker 4>from there across and that will give you a good

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<v Speaker 4>idea of where it is. But in the end, unless

0:17:48.535 --> 0:17:51.255
<v Speaker 4>you've actually got a boundary marker or a survey peg.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's ever completely sure like to the millimeter where

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<v Speaker 4>the boundary actually is. The only way to get that

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<v Speaker 4>done if it's not there is to get a surveyor.

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<v Speaker 8>And what do the boundary markets actually look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Typically there's two sorts of well two or three that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm familiar with. One is a bit of three B two,

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<v Speaker 4>so seventy five x fifty. It's white with a very

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<v Speaker 4>sharp point in it. It'll be driven into the ground,

0:18:16.695 --> 0:18:18.375
<v Speaker 4>and then on top of it it'll have a nail.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you're often looking for, and they're the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that you see quite a bit. There is now, I

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<v Speaker 4>think a PVC boundary marker, which can be put in

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Not as common. The other thing is sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I like, you know, if you want to build a

0:18:32.775 --> 0:18:35.215
<v Speaker 4>fence on the boundary and there's a boundary marker there,

0:18:36.015 --> 0:18:38.895
<v Speaker 4>a surveyor might come remove that marker. You put the

0:18:38.935 --> 0:18:40.855
<v Speaker 4>fence posts in the right place, and then they come

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<v Speaker 4>back and put like a little aluminum disc that's about

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<v Speaker 4>thirty millimeters in diameter, and they'll fix that to the ground,

0:18:48.335 --> 0:18:49.935
<v Speaker 4>or they'll fix it to the top of a fence

0:18:49.975 --> 0:18:52.655
<v Speaker 4>post or something. Like that to indicate where the boundary is.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what you're looking for, all.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, great, okay, love, thank you, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care, Thank you very much. We might take a

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<v Speaker 4>short break and we'll come back to Danny in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to deal with this one after the break

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Text that's come through Part one, Morning Pete,

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<v Speaker 4>our house has an issue with heat. In summer it

0:19:11.175 --> 0:19:14.295
<v Speaker 4>can be well over forty degrees and in winter we

0:19:14.335 --> 0:19:16.735
<v Speaker 4>struggle to get it to twenty. It's a new build

0:19:17.215 --> 0:19:21.855
<v Speaker 4>relocated to site in twenty nineteen. Part two. One side

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<v Speaker 4>of the house is nearly all ranch sliders or big

0:19:24.735 --> 0:19:28.095
<v Speaker 4>sliding windows. This side is we're facing short of moving

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<v Speaker 4>the house. Is there any other solution to managing the

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<v Speaker 4>heating and calling good news? Is there is? Stand by, folks.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be back after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Break doing other house sorting the garden. Asked Pete for

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<v Speaker 1>a hand. The resident builder with peta wolfcap call oh

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<v Speaker 1>eight news dogs'd.

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<v Speaker 4>Be indeed, newsbalks'd be. We're talking all things building construction.

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<v Speaker 4>We will come to that tech shortly. But Danny, good

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<v Speaker 4>morning to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, morning peatoday, send a veluminium joinery, some external doors

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<v Speaker 5>from a bedroom in sidelight, and we're just getting a

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<v Speaker 5>teeny bit of water coming in onto the concrete pad

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<v Speaker 5>on the inside down one corner. It was causing carpa

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<v Speaker 5>to rot. Yes, I had a couple of alumnion people

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<v Speaker 5>come up and they're sort of squirt a bit of

0:20:12.095 --> 0:20:16.695
<v Speaker 5>oooken there, and yeah, doesn't do anything. Don't really want

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<v Speaker 5>to have to pull the whole sort of shebang out

0:20:19.335 --> 0:20:23.095
<v Speaker 5>because it's a concrete plastered house. That's a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>a major Is there any other alternatives?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think if you've done you know, it's not

0:20:30.775 --> 0:20:32.775
<v Speaker 4>it's not the wrong approach. Let's say to turn up

0:20:32.775 --> 0:20:37.855
<v Speaker 4>with some silicon, you know, and try And sometimes what

0:20:37.895 --> 0:20:41.335
<v Speaker 4>can happen with aluminium jowinery, particularly sort of slightly older

0:20:41.375 --> 0:20:45.095
<v Speaker 4>aluminium jowinery, is there'll be some movement ten years old. Yeah,

0:20:45.135 --> 0:20:48.975
<v Speaker 4>there'll be some movement in the frame right, and potentially,

0:20:49.495 --> 0:20:53.135
<v Speaker 4>let's say the screws that often hold those sections together,

0:20:53.175 --> 0:20:56.855
<v Speaker 4>those extrusions together, may move a little bit twenty odd

0:20:56.935 --> 0:21:00.055
<v Speaker 4>years ago. We probably with the greatest respect, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>that diligent around trying to seal those corners, and so

0:21:04.695 --> 0:21:07.735
<v Speaker 4>sometimes they'll move and water will track in through there,

0:21:07.895 --> 0:21:11.455
<v Speaker 4>in which case, applying some sealant to seal that is

0:21:11.495 --> 0:21:16.095
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily the wrong thing to do. What you don't

0:21:16.135 --> 0:21:19.775
<v Speaker 4>want to do necessarily is go putting lots of sealant

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<v Speaker 4>around and then blocking up drainage paths which are required.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've seen that sometimes every now and then. What

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<v Speaker 4>is it a ranch slider, is it a bifold door?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a standard opening door?

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<v Speaker 5>Standard opening doors? So we've poured a truckload of water

0:21:36.335 --> 0:21:38.295
<v Speaker 5>through the drains on the bottom of it, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>fine to put the hose on the outside, yeah, of

0:21:42.455 --> 0:21:45.735
<v Speaker 5>the glass that it slowly starts seeping on on the inside.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you're testing it, you're just putting the water

0:21:48.975 --> 0:21:51.695
<v Speaker 4>onto the glass. You're not spraying the wall and the

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<v Speaker 4>joinery at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the glass and near leminum jowinery, Donny step it

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<v Speaker 5>back and isolate one from the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that will because essentially, if like if you direct

0:22:04.175 --> 0:22:06.775
<v Speaker 4>some water just purely at the glass and the aluminum

0:22:06.815 --> 0:22:09.655
<v Speaker 4>jewnery without going onto the cladding at all, and it leaks,

0:22:09.695 --> 0:22:11.695
<v Speaker 4>then you know that you've probably got an issue with

0:22:11.735 --> 0:22:16.415
<v Speaker 4>the joinery. If for example, because obviously it's an interaction

0:22:16.495 --> 0:22:18.735
<v Speaker 4>between the joinery and the wall cladding. And I know

0:22:18.775 --> 0:22:21.535
<v Speaker 4>you're reluctant for obvious reasons to have to deal with

0:22:21.575 --> 0:22:25.175
<v Speaker 4>the cladding, but in some cases you might find actually

0:22:25.215 --> 0:22:29.255
<v Speaker 4>the leak is around that junction between the cladding and

0:22:29.415 --> 0:22:32.735
<v Speaker 4>the joinery and waters getting in there. Again, twenty odd

0:22:32.775 --> 0:22:35.535
<v Speaker 4>years ago, we didn't often do a great job with

0:22:36.295 --> 0:22:40.095
<v Speaker 4>ceiling around the perimeter of the jowinery. So in that

0:22:40.295 --> 0:22:44.015
<v Speaker 4>gap between the jam and the timber framing, in.

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<v Speaker 5>Some timber framing, it's concrete.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's and it's solid masonry, yeah, block with a

0:22:51.135 --> 0:22:55.855
<v Speaker 4>rebate for the joinery, yes, okay, and then the joinery.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's the I don't think it's the

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<v Speaker 5>concrete because we've also actually recently painted the house. Yes,

0:23:00.695 --> 0:23:05.495
<v Speaker 5>if there's any leaks around there, sure, yeah. And you

0:23:05.535 --> 0:23:07.295
<v Speaker 5>when you're squirreed in the you know about a foot

0:23:07.375 --> 0:23:10.215
<v Speaker 5>up from the bottom, so it's nothing coming in from.

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<v Speaker 4>Above, Okay, yep. Then look, most likely it's going to

0:23:17.375 --> 0:23:24.175
<v Speaker 4>be somewhere in the aluminum extrusions. If they've done the seilant.

0:23:24.935 --> 0:23:27.615
<v Speaker 4>What's the condition of the rubber seals around the glazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it seems okay, okay, But I thought even if

0:23:32.975 --> 0:23:36.095
<v Speaker 5>that that the seals were leaking, I.

0:23:36.175 --> 0:23:41.375
<v Speaker 4>Should run out of the rain drain. Yeah, what's at

0:23:41.455 --> 0:23:44.495
<v Speaker 4>the bottom, Like, is there a pathway outside or a deck?

0:23:45.775 --> 0:23:48.375
<v Speaker 5>There's a deck, so it's well above the ground height.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a twelve millimeter gap between the deck and

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<v Speaker 4>the joinery?

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<v Speaker 9>Twelve?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at least Okay, all right, because you know, again

0:24:02.095 --> 0:24:03.775
<v Speaker 4>that's one of the things that's the requirement of the

0:24:03.775 --> 0:24:06.575
<v Speaker 4>code now that if you do have like a level

0:24:06.695 --> 0:24:09.095
<v Speaker 4>entry deck or something like that, that you want to

0:24:09.135 --> 0:24:10.895
<v Speaker 4>make sure that there's a gap there and that twelve

0:24:10.895 --> 0:24:14.535
<v Speaker 4>millimeters allows for drainage, and it also it allows for ventilation, right,

0:24:14.575 --> 0:24:18.455
<v Speaker 4>so water doesn't get stuck there and then potentially get

0:24:18.535 --> 0:24:24.735
<v Speaker 4>capillary back up and up and underneath the flashing. Do

0:24:24.855 --> 0:24:28.335
<v Speaker 4>you know if when you probably don't, if the window

0:24:28.415 --> 0:24:31.615
<v Speaker 4>was installed, did they seal the rebait at the bottom?

0:24:33.335 --> 0:24:35.335
<v Speaker 5>No idea. We only bought the house about a year ago,

0:24:35.375 --> 0:24:38.535
<v Speaker 5>we knowing the leak was there. It's now just trying

0:24:38.575 --> 0:24:39.415
<v Speaker 5>to remedy us there.

0:24:39.495 --> 0:24:39.735
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure is the thought of pulling if it's hot. Is

0:24:46.855 --> 0:24:50.055
<v Speaker 4>it a hot block specifically type.

0:24:49.815 --> 0:24:52.375
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the block with the polystine in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, the hot block, okay, and it's a rebait,

0:24:55.215 --> 0:24:57.775
<v Speaker 4>and then the windows are inserted into there is there

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<v Speaker 4>a head flashing.

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<v Speaker 5>No, there is, but that's a negative detail. So so there's

0:25:07.775 --> 0:25:14.415
<v Speaker 5>a drip line, right, Okay, water comes through when I'm

0:25:14.415 --> 0:25:16.415
<v Speaker 5>just spraying the bottom part of the window, so i've

0:25:16.415 --> 0:25:17.855
<v Speaker 5>sort of ice ladder. It's not from the.

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<v Speaker 4>Top, Okay, all right, it'll it'll be a leak somewhere

0:25:22.135 --> 0:25:24.695
<v Speaker 4>in the joinery, in the frame or the seals.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to find some old bugger that there has

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<v Speaker 5>been doing the animinium drawing for years. It'll know exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I know exactly the right person, but he's he's a

0:25:34.495 --> 0:25:39.455
<v Speaker 4>little bit out of action at the moment. Look, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you what. If you can find on the frame

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere it does it have the name of the original manufacturer.

0:25:45.615 --> 0:25:47.735
<v Speaker 4>I don't need to know who that is, but if

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<v Speaker 4>it's if it's a reasonably well known brand, I'd go

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<v Speaker 4>to them and go, hey, look, can you send out

0:25:53.095 --> 0:25:56.095
<v Speaker 4>your old fellow. You know, with the greatest respect to

0:25:56.135 --> 0:25:58.295
<v Speaker 4>old fellows like myself, a little bit of gray here

0:25:58.335 --> 0:26:00.895
<v Speaker 4>is not a bad thing in this instance, and they

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<v Speaker 4>may well be able to identify it, so I would

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<v Speaker 4>that would be my next step. Actually, see if you

0:26:05.175 --> 0:26:08.215
<v Speaker 4>can find out who the yourig general joinery manufacturer is.

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<v Speaker 4>Get in touch with them, see if they can send

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<v Speaker 4>someone out and have a look.

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<v Speaker 5>Very good.

0:26:12.935 --> 0:26:15.695
<v Speaker 4>The other company that's that's pretty experienced in this fields

0:26:15.855 --> 0:26:20.175
<v Speaker 4>exceed window maintenance unless you they've been out in that

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<v Speaker 4>look all right, try the original joiners.

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<v Speaker 7>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll do that, all right, you get good luck with that?

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<v Speaker 5>Good on you take care.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the chappie that I know, who I've called on many,

0:26:32.455 --> 0:26:35.495
<v Speaker 4>many many times is just is laid up after some

0:26:35.615 --> 0:26:38.055
<v Speaker 4>surgery at the moment, but bloody good to catch up

0:26:38.055 --> 0:26:40.815
<v Speaker 4>with you on Friday. To mate, I eight hundred eight.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's listening to the show, I eight hundred eighty

0:26:42.855 --> 0:26:45.375
<v Speaker 4>ten eighty is the number to call. Let me see

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<v Speaker 4>six thirty eight Scott Greetings.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello, how are you going?

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<v Speaker 13>Signing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>That's a sorry. I've got a question about We've got

0:26:55.415 --> 0:26:58.295
<v Speaker 12>a pool that's been in the ground for about forty

0:26:58.375 --> 0:27:03.335
<v Speaker 12>years and it's it's it's sunken below the surrounding ground

0:27:03.375 --> 0:27:07.815
<v Speaker 12>by one point two one point seven meters and then

0:27:07.815 --> 0:27:11.655
<v Speaker 12>it's got a one of the good pall fences, you know,

0:27:11.695 --> 0:27:16.015
<v Speaker 12>the steel ones, and that goes around and it goes

0:27:16.055 --> 0:27:19.775
<v Speaker 12>out to a ha ha a ha ha. You know,

0:27:19.975 --> 0:27:22.015
<v Speaker 12>like you know, your lawn goes and then it drops

0:27:22.015 --> 0:27:22.815
<v Speaker 12>off into the paddock.

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<v Speaker 4>Never heard it described as a ha ha?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, So is this.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, a country thing?

0:27:32.695 --> 0:27:32.935
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

0:27:32.975 --> 0:27:36.775
<v Speaker 12>Probably, yeah. So you have your lawn and then you

0:27:36.855 --> 0:27:39.015
<v Speaker 12>look straight out to your pads and then there's a

0:27:39.095 --> 0:27:41.615
<v Speaker 12>drop off and into the lawn down to the to

0:27:41.655 --> 0:27:44.535
<v Speaker 12>the paddock and it's and in this case.

0:27:45.215 --> 0:27:47.695
<v Speaker 4>That you call it a ha ha. Is that because

0:27:47.735 --> 0:27:49.695
<v Speaker 4>you laugh and you're doing roly polies down the hill

0:27:50.055 --> 0:27:50.455
<v Speaker 4>with a name?

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<v Speaker 12>No, no, it's not a hill. It's like it's like

0:27:52.775 --> 0:27:55.815
<v Speaker 12>an need. It's got a no no, It just goes

0:27:55.855 --> 0:27:58.255
<v Speaker 12>the lawn and then it stops and then there's a drop. Yes,

0:27:58.495 --> 0:28:00.695
<v Speaker 12>you know, the vertical dropped down to the to the

0:28:01.255 --> 0:28:04.095
<v Speaker 12>diferent area. Yeah, yep. So it's like one point two

0:28:04.335 --> 0:28:06.575
<v Speaker 12>one point four meters or with.

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<v Speaker 4>The retaining wall or is it just battered the.

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<v Speaker 12>Retaining and it's been in there for forty years and

0:28:12.775 --> 0:28:15.175
<v Speaker 12>it's got a hedge on a hedge on top of that,

0:28:16.215 --> 0:28:19.615
<v Speaker 12>which is very fucking goes across there, and then on

0:28:19.655 --> 0:28:24.295
<v Speaker 12>the other side it's got a railing fence, like a

0:28:24.335 --> 0:28:27.535
<v Speaker 12>one point two one point three meters railing things for

0:28:27.615 --> 0:28:29.455
<v Speaker 12>the electric trust to the honor, and then side that

0:28:29.535 --> 0:28:32.695
<v Speaker 12>there's like a three foot heats that's been there for

0:28:32.695 --> 0:28:36.215
<v Speaker 12>forty years and that, and then it's got the proper

0:28:36.215 --> 0:28:36.615
<v Speaker 12>gates with.

0:28:36.695 --> 0:28:39.335
<v Speaker 4>The proper you know, the proper Yeah, the lectures self

0:28:39.375 --> 0:28:41.375
<v Speaker 4>closing and lecture.

0:28:42.895 --> 0:28:45.975
<v Speaker 12>And height all right, height, and then you've got the

0:28:45.975 --> 0:28:49.775
<v Speaker 12>botoms and stuff like that. So the huge of one

0:28:49.895 --> 0:28:52.975
<v Speaker 12>called us a little bit weak. Now we've had we've

0:28:53.055 --> 0:28:59.495
<v Speaker 12>had an expection recently and they suggested if and then

0:28:59.615 --> 0:29:02.375
<v Speaker 12>it couldn't get in there if you know what I mean,

0:29:02.655 --> 0:29:05.895
<v Speaker 12>little owner child at the moment. But the suggesting that

0:29:05.935 --> 0:29:08.095
<v Speaker 12>we have to put meeting up on the railing fence

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<v Speaker 12>on the outside of the edge and stuff like that

0:29:11.775 --> 0:29:14.455
<v Speaker 12>so that you can't get a purchase there to climb.

0:29:14.215 --> 0:29:16.415
<v Speaker 4>To ensure that it's not climbable.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, which it isn't because it's got electricity over and

0:29:19.535 --> 0:29:21.375
<v Speaker 12>it's got and then there's a three foot heage to

0:29:21.415 --> 0:29:23.695
<v Speaker 12>climb through which it can't, which is impenetrable.

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<v Speaker 4>Hedges are not considered suitable for pool fencing.

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<v Speaker 12>No, No, that's right, we're getting that, we're getting to

0:29:30.095 --> 0:29:38.015
<v Speaker 12>that point. So they suggested, and the report was used

0:29:38.135 --> 0:29:40.575
<v Speaker 12>meeting on the edge of the fence, which will which

0:29:40.615 --> 0:29:45.095
<v Speaker 12>will make it child proof or child proof in their eyes?

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<v Speaker 12>And what the question was is do you need if

0:29:48.695 --> 0:29:51.335
<v Speaker 12>you if you if you don't upgrade your fence, do

0:29:51.335 --> 0:29:52.615
<v Speaker 12>you need a constin.

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<v Speaker 9>Not?

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<v Speaker 15>Typically No, the fellows that we're trying to councils got

0:29:58.935 --> 0:30:01.855
<v Speaker 15>as adamant that if you'd start doing this and that

0:30:02.015 --> 0:30:04.855
<v Speaker 15>you need to constinct a building consent for a fend.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd have to ask them to which piece of legislation

0:30:07.975 --> 0:30:12.095
<v Speaker 4>would it require a building consent? Yes, so I would.

0:30:12.175 --> 0:30:14.535
<v Speaker 4>I would probably go back and say, look, my understanding

0:30:14.655 --> 0:30:17.055
<v Speaker 4>is that under Schedule one of the act, I don't

0:30:17.055 --> 0:30:21.415
<v Speaker 4>require a building consent. Can you tell me exactly which

0:30:21.495 --> 0:30:25.095
<v Speaker 4>part of this construction triggers a requirement for a building consent,

0:30:26.735 --> 0:30:29.455
<v Speaker 4>Even the fact that it's a pool fence and you

0:30:29.495 --> 0:30:33.135
<v Speaker 4>know it's therefore safety, I don't know that that would

0:30:33.175 --> 0:30:36.855
<v Speaker 4>necessarily require a building consent. Needs to comply with the

0:30:36.895 --> 0:30:43.895
<v Speaker 4>pool fencing requirements in terms of its performance. And I'm

0:30:43.935 --> 0:30:46.015
<v Speaker 4>a little bit curious about this idea of sort of

0:30:46.015 --> 0:30:49.255
<v Speaker 4>wrapping some mesh around the outside of it, because that

0:30:49.415 --> 0:30:51.575
<v Speaker 4>in many ways the mesh will just make it more

0:30:51.615 --> 0:30:57.055
<v Speaker 4>climbable because it's its finger and toe holts, right, not the.

0:30:57.015 --> 0:30:59.615
<v Speaker 12>Mess the proper square mesh, it's the rest.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, okay.

0:31:03.455 --> 0:31:07.015
<v Speaker 12>I've seen it years before and some division around. You know,

0:31:07.055 --> 0:31:10.455
<v Speaker 12>when they have those the water flows to certain areas

0:31:10.455 --> 0:31:12.335
<v Speaker 12>and then they've got like a bonding system, then then

0:31:12.375 --> 0:31:14.935
<v Speaker 12>it flows into pipe and disappears.

0:31:15.015 --> 0:31:15.615
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm with you.

0:31:15.815 --> 0:31:17.935
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, they've got they've.

0:31:17.735 --> 0:31:20.175
<v Speaker 12>Got a writing things up and then check that stuff

0:31:20.175 --> 0:31:20.855
<v Speaker 12>to the outside of it.

0:31:22.775 --> 0:31:27.015
<v Speaker 4>I think in terms of so the the assessment or

0:31:27.055 --> 0:31:29.375
<v Speaker 4>the inspection is obviously done by a council officer.

0:31:30.535 --> 0:31:32.735
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and they've done like it's been like that for

0:31:32.735 --> 0:31:33.295
<v Speaker 12>forty years.

0:31:33.415 --> 0:31:37.655
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And okay, so look, maybe laws have changed or

0:31:37.695 --> 0:31:39.415
<v Speaker 4>maybe they've kind of turned a blind eye to it

0:31:39.455 --> 0:31:41.335
<v Speaker 4>and let it go and now they're not prepared to

0:31:41.455 --> 0:31:44.655
<v Speaker 4>so you know, but I think with these sorts of things,

0:31:44.695 --> 0:31:48.695
<v Speaker 4>they need to be very clear around this is where

0:31:48.895 --> 0:31:51.855
<v Speaker 4>your fence fails in terms of compliance with the Poor

0:31:51.895 --> 0:31:56.335
<v Speaker 4>Fencing Act. And I'm a little bit surprised that they

0:31:56.375 --> 0:31:58.655
<v Speaker 4>offer up solutions. Sometimes they're not. They don't want to

0:31:58.655 --> 0:32:00.415
<v Speaker 4>do that because they don't want to be held responsible

0:32:00.455 --> 0:32:02.375
<v Speaker 4>for it. But if they have offered up a solution,

0:32:02.455 --> 0:32:04.855
<v Speaker 4>that's fine. But then to say that it requires a

0:32:04.855 --> 0:32:08.375
<v Speaker 4>building consent, you just gently go back and say, hey,

0:32:08.375 --> 0:32:10.975
<v Speaker 4>look on what grounds that's right?

0:32:11.215 --> 0:32:14.295
<v Speaker 12>I'd think the existing sense putting the netting up was fine,

0:32:14.695 --> 0:32:18.175
<v Speaker 12>and the haha was putting up the netting so that

0:32:18.495 --> 0:32:22.095
<v Speaker 12>there was no toe holds. And then what I suggested

0:32:22.175 --> 0:32:25.095
<v Speaker 12>were putting in some new posts and then put the

0:32:25.175 --> 0:32:29.495
<v Speaker 12>net that this special mess stuff to the one point

0:32:29.535 --> 0:32:33.935
<v Speaker 12>two meters because everyone is high. And then there was

0:32:33.935 --> 0:32:35.975
<v Speaker 12>when he got panicis there we need a building consider

0:32:36.055 --> 0:32:36.815
<v Speaker 12>put some posts them?

0:32:37.415 --> 0:32:37.695
<v Speaker 16>I don't.

0:32:37.735 --> 0:32:38.375
<v Speaker 17>I don't think so.

0:32:38.695 --> 0:32:42.055
<v Speaker 12>But yeah, then under the what is what do you say?

0:32:42.095 --> 0:32:43.815
<v Speaker 12>That was under the first Act?

0:32:45.575 --> 0:32:49.455
<v Speaker 4>So work that work that can be done, building work

0:32:49.455 --> 0:32:52.455
<v Speaker 4>that can be done without necessarily requiring a building consent

0:32:52.655 --> 0:32:55.255
<v Speaker 4>is summarized and schedule one of the acts. So if

0:32:55.255 --> 0:32:57.255
<v Speaker 4>you want to do a quick on online search, she

0:32:57.335 --> 0:32:59.895
<v Speaker 4>just sets for building acts, should your one, and it'll

0:32:59.895 --> 0:33:03.735
<v Speaker 4>bring up all of the exemptions, typical exemptions. And I

0:33:04.055 --> 0:33:06.935
<v Speaker 4>would have thought that fencing generally is an exemption.

0:33:07.135 --> 0:33:09.775
<v Speaker 12>Yeah yeah, oh no, that's great.

0:33:09.855 --> 0:33:13.095
<v Speaker 4>All the best. You're Scott. It goes well. Take care o.

0:33:13.375 --> 0:33:15.855
<v Speaker 4>There a couple of texts on the now. Maybe it's

0:33:15.855 --> 0:33:18.575
<v Speaker 4>not a ha ha, maybe it's a hard gar. A

0:33:18.655 --> 0:33:22.015
<v Speaker 4>hager was a device in landscaping invented by Capability Brown

0:33:22.735 --> 0:33:25.335
<v Speaker 4>in the UK to give the impression of fields appearing

0:33:25.335 --> 0:33:27.415
<v Speaker 4>to go right up to a grand house. The fence

0:33:27.535 --> 0:33:30.375
<v Speaker 4>was placed at the bottom of the ditch, unseen from

0:33:30.455 --> 0:33:34.375
<v Speaker 4>the grand house windows. John from Omaru, thank you very

0:33:34.455 --> 0:33:39.055
<v Speaker 4>much a hager. So the I I suppose the idea

0:33:39.095 --> 0:33:41.495
<v Speaker 4>is you'd have your lawn extending out from your grand

0:33:41.575 --> 0:33:44.935
<v Speaker 4>palace in the countryside in the UK, and then the

0:33:44.975 --> 0:33:47.695
<v Speaker 4>bank slopes down and you put the fence to keep

0:33:47.775 --> 0:33:51.175
<v Speaker 4>out the peasants at the bottom so you can't see

0:33:51.215 --> 0:33:53.855
<v Speaker 4>the poor and impoverished pleading at the gates when you're

0:33:53.895 --> 0:33:56.375
<v Speaker 4>sitting having a cup of tea in a cucumber sandwich

0:33:56.615 --> 0:34:00.535
<v Speaker 4>in the afternoon. It kind of works. Oh, eight hundred

0:34:00.615 --> 0:34:02.335
<v Speaker 4>eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Just a

0:34:02.415 --> 0:34:05.855
<v Speaker 4>quick one on the joinery that's leaking. The fixed glazing

0:34:05.935 --> 0:34:09.255
<v Speaker 4>panel maters are open. Take out the glass to fix it.

0:34:10.255 --> 0:34:14.375
<v Speaker 4>That's a very good point, thank you, Peter. So for

0:34:15.175 --> 0:34:17.975
<v Speaker 4>Danny who's got the leaking joinery. If what they've done

0:34:18.055 --> 0:34:19.935
<v Speaker 4>is come along and sort of opened the door and

0:34:20.015 --> 0:34:24.015
<v Speaker 4>filled that area with silicon, it might be if there's

0:34:24.015 --> 0:34:27.095
<v Speaker 4>a fixed panel that you need to unclip the glazing beads,

0:34:27.255 --> 0:34:31.415
<v Speaker 4>lift the unit out, whether it's single or double glazed out,

0:34:31.495 --> 0:34:35.175
<v Speaker 4>and then seal the miters there and then reinstall the glass.

0:34:35.255 --> 0:34:37.135
<v Speaker 4>If they didn't do that when they arrived with a

0:34:37.175 --> 0:34:40.495
<v Speaker 4>tube of silicon, then that might be a next step.

0:34:40.535 --> 0:34:43.135
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much Peter for your suggestion. Oh, eight

0:34:43.215 --> 0:34:45.455
<v Speaker 4>hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will

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<v Speaker 4>come back and talk to Roger in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with or wondering how

0:34:50.335 --> 0:34:52.575
<v Speaker 1>to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter wolf

0:34:52.575 --> 0:34:57.975
<v Speaker 1>Cap call on eighty the resident builder on Youth dogs'b.

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<v Speaker 4>Just before we go to Roger, I just want to

0:35:00.375 --> 0:35:02.735
<v Speaker 4>go back to that text from earlier, on part one

0:35:02.855 --> 0:35:05.295
<v Speaker 4>of the text Morning, Peter, our house is an issue

0:35:05.295 --> 0:35:07.735
<v Speaker 4>with heat. In summer it can well of forty degrees

0:35:07.775 --> 0:35:09.775
<v Speaker 4>and in winter we struggle to get it to twenty

0:35:09.815 --> 0:35:15.815
<v Speaker 4>degrees new build relocated to site in twenty nineteen. So

0:35:16.815 --> 0:35:19.095
<v Speaker 4>was it built in twenty nineteen or was it built earlier?

0:35:19.415 --> 0:35:21.375
<v Speaker 4>I kind of need to know. So one side of

0:35:21.375 --> 0:35:23.735
<v Speaker 4>the house is nearly all ranch sliders the house. That

0:35:23.895 --> 0:35:26.535
<v Speaker 4>side is west facing, so short of moving the house,

0:35:26.575 --> 0:35:29.375
<v Speaker 4>is there any other solution to managing heating and calling?

0:35:29.695 --> 0:35:35.375
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Rachel Looks. It's both a really simple question and

0:35:35.415 --> 0:35:38.375
<v Speaker 4>a really really complex one. I think that probably the

0:35:38.415 --> 0:35:41.615
<v Speaker 4>most sensible solution for that western side of the house

0:35:42.335 --> 0:35:47.095
<v Speaker 4>is to add some shade. And if you design the

0:35:47.135 --> 0:35:51.455
<v Speaker 4>shade well, i e. A purglar or pagoda that extends

0:35:51.455 --> 0:35:53.935
<v Speaker 4>out over there, what you'll find is that with the

0:35:54.095 --> 0:35:57.855
<v Speaker 4>change in the position of the sun in the sky. No,

0:35:58.535 --> 0:36:01.655
<v Speaker 4>the sun doesn't change, we change, right, So it would

0:36:01.695 --> 0:36:04.695
<v Speaker 4>appear that the sun is either higher in the sky

0:36:04.935 --> 0:36:09.695
<v Speaker 4>in winter and lower in summer. So in summer, sorry

0:36:09.695 --> 0:36:13.055
<v Speaker 4>in winter, So in winter you want to have some

0:36:13.095 --> 0:36:16.575
<v Speaker 4>shading that extends out that allows the sun to come in.

0:36:16.655 --> 0:36:19.535
<v Speaker 4>You want that passive soul again over the winter period,

0:36:19.855 --> 0:36:23.855
<v Speaker 4>but in summer you want it to be shaded. So

0:36:24.215 --> 0:36:27.535
<v Speaker 4>it's there are designers who will help you with that

0:36:27.935 --> 0:36:31.015
<v Speaker 4>to determine exactly where you need to put that shade,

0:36:31.055 --> 0:36:33.575
<v Speaker 4>how far out, how high it is, and so on,

0:36:33.655 --> 0:36:36.455
<v Speaker 4>and that will give you shading, protect you from that

0:36:36.615 --> 0:36:39.975
<v Speaker 4>soul again over the summer month, and it will allow

0:36:40.335 --> 0:36:44.535
<v Speaker 4>that warmth that you want in winter to come in

0:36:44.535 --> 0:36:50.175
<v Speaker 4>in my own house completely and utterly. Coincidentally, when we

0:36:50.295 --> 0:36:53.335
<v Speaker 4>renovated many many years ago, we added a veranda to

0:36:53.375 --> 0:36:55.575
<v Speaker 4>the back of the house. It's north facing. We added

0:36:55.615 --> 0:36:59.455
<v Speaker 4>some French doors, some bifolds, etc. And we also added

0:36:59.455 --> 0:37:01.695
<v Speaker 4>a verandah with a covered roof on it in a

0:37:01.695 --> 0:37:05.775
<v Speaker 4>typical sort of villa fashion. As it happens in the

0:37:05.775 --> 0:37:09.415
<v Speaker 4>middle of so the longest day was what ten days ago,

0:37:09.775 --> 0:37:13.535
<v Speaker 4>The sun lower in the sky will come underneath that

0:37:13.775 --> 0:37:18.695
<v Speaker 4>veranda roof and extend four meters let's say, into the room,

0:37:19.695 --> 0:37:22.935
<v Speaker 4>so the floor is lit up. In summertime, that sun

0:37:23.055 --> 0:37:27.095
<v Speaker 4>stops at the doors. Now I'm going to give credit

0:37:27.135 --> 0:37:30.055
<v Speaker 4>to my architect, Lloyd, who designed it like that, or

0:37:30.095 --> 0:37:32.455
<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to go it was just an absolute fluke,

0:37:32.495 --> 0:37:35.575
<v Speaker 4>but either way it works. So shading is going to

0:37:35.575 --> 0:37:40.255
<v Speaker 4>be a big part of that solution. Roger greetings, Hey.

0:37:40.135 --> 0:37:46.815
<v Speaker 13>There shovels about some of the thty years old wether

0:37:46.855 --> 0:37:49.855
<v Speaker 13>all God I think has terror or handle some of

0:37:49.855 --> 0:37:53.295
<v Speaker 13>them and the splinter, and every time I use them

0:37:53.575 --> 0:37:57.855
<v Speaker 13>you get a wee splinter. Any plastic spray that you

0:37:57.895 --> 0:37:59.095
<v Speaker 13>can spray over.

0:37:58.935 --> 0:38:05.415
<v Speaker 4>It, okay, that's just try. I think I've probably got

0:38:05.415 --> 0:38:08.055
<v Speaker 4>some shovels well wooden handles on them that would be

0:38:09.575 --> 0:38:17.855
<v Speaker 4>of around that vintage. Yes, I don't know that i'd go.

0:38:18.455 --> 0:38:21.175
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yes, you could probably put some sort of

0:38:21.255 --> 0:38:25.575
<v Speaker 4>plastic spray over them, but whether it would stay on there,

0:38:25.615 --> 0:38:27.815
<v Speaker 4>and whether or not it's kind of nice to use.

0:38:28.735 --> 0:38:32.455
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure. Those splinters that you get, are they

0:38:32.575 --> 0:38:36.015
<v Speaker 4>wear a large sort of part of the fiber of

0:38:36.055 --> 0:38:38.575
<v Speaker 4>the timber actually starts to peel away and you're getting

0:38:38.575 --> 0:38:42.455
<v Speaker 4>a splinter, or are they like those small little splinters

0:38:42.455 --> 0:38:45.735
<v Speaker 4>that you might get from time to time. Yes, there's

0:38:45.895 --> 0:38:46.975
<v Speaker 4>smaller the little ones.

0:38:47.055 --> 0:38:47.255
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:38:49.695 --> 0:38:53.615
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I got a space in the hand. You can't

0:38:53.655 --> 0:38:55.295
<v Speaker 13>get the things out.

0:38:56.855 --> 0:39:00.015
<v Speaker 4>What about something like giving it a good sand, right,

0:39:00.095 --> 0:39:02.775
<v Speaker 4>so with some sandpaper, giving it a sand, knocking off

0:39:02.815 --> 0:39:05.735
<v Speaker 4>as many of those little splinters as possible, and then

0:39:05.935 --> 0:39:08.375
<v Speaker 4>just you using you know, you could use linseed oil,

0:39:08.455 --> 0:39:11.495
<v Speaker 4>you could use some Danish oil something like that to

0:39:12.135 --> 0:39:16.535
<v Speaker 4>oil and keep some moisture in the timber, which I

0:39:16.575 --> 0:39:19.175
<v Speaker 4>think will help keep down the splinters. I think I'd

0:39:19.295 --> 0:39:23.095
<v Speaker 4>rather go for like an oil onto the timber rather

0:39:23.175 --> 0:39:26.055
<v Speaker 4>than a plastic coating which is most likely going to

0:39:26.055 --> 0:39:29.975
<v Speaker 4>peel off again. Oh, I see, so sand at Noilam

0:39:30.655 --> 0:39:37.255
<v Speaker 4>would be my gown. I think so nice to talk

0:39:37.295 --> 0:39:41.135
<v Speaker 4>to you all the best. A little while ago I

0:39:41.135 --> 0:39:43.815
<v Speaker 4>was doing I came in and did a Sunday afternoon show,

0:39:44.535 --> 0:39:47.575
<v Speaker 4>The Sunday at Six with Jack S. Donaldson. I was

0:39:47.655 --> 0:39:50.055
<v Speaker 4>filling in for Frank Richie, and we got talking about

0:39:50.495 --> 0:39:52.295
<v Speaker 4>things that we couldn't part with, and then we got

0:39:52.335 --> 0:39:55.055
<v Speaker 4>talking about shovels, and then we both sort of start

0:39:55.135 --> 0:39:58.655
<v Speaker 4>to obsess about shovels. To be fair, there is nothing better. Well,

0:39:58.695 --> 0:40:00.695
<v Speaker 4>there are lots of things better. But one of life's

0:40:00.735 --> 0:40:04.095
<v Speaker 4>great pleasures, if you're involved in sort of the manual trades,

0:40:04.175 --> 0:40:05.615
<v Speaker 4>or you like being out in the garden and that

0:40:05.655 --> 0:40:08.215
<v Speaker 4>sort of thing, is the quality, the sheer pleasure you

0:40:08.255 --> 0:40:10.615
<v Speaker 4>get from a really good shovel and how attached you

0:40:10.655 --> 0:40:14.335
<v Speaker 4>get to them, and how intolerant you become of using

0:40:14.375 --> 0:40:17.775
<v Speaker 4>shovels that are not particularly good or spades any digging implement.

0:40:18.615 --> 0:40:20.535
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, having one with a nice wooden handle it

0:40:20.535 --> 0:40:23.175
<v Speaker 4>gives you splinters would be a source of some concern,

0:40:23.255 --> 0:40:26.415
<v Speaker 4>I would imagine. Kate, hold on, we will talk to

0:40:26.415 --> 0:40:28.255
<v Speaker 4>you after new Sport and where the top of the

0:40:28.295 --> 0:40:33.695
<v Speaker 4>are at seven o'clock. Text Pete how effective is underfloor

0:40:33.735 --> 0:40:37.015
<v Speaker 4>insulation in our old house and is it beneficial to

0:40:37.135 --> 0:40:40.175
<v Speaker 4>also do the walls as well? There is insulation in

0:40:40.215 --> 0:40:45.295
<v Speaker 4>the roof. Cheers from Alistair. Alistair. Probably the single best

0:40:45.295 --> 0:40:47.655
<v Speaker 4>thing you can do for your house is to add

0:40:47.735 --> 0:40:53.335
<v Speaker 4>insulation in the correct Insulation in the correct place will

0:40:53.335 --> 0:40:56.735
<v Speaker 4>make a massive difference to how your house performs. So yes,

0:40:56.895 --> 0:41:01.455
<v Speaker 4>underfloor insulation is tremendously effective. It will help keep the

0:41:01.495 --> 0:41:04.695
<v Speaker 4>heat in if it's well installed. It will also help

0:41:05.535 --> 0:41:08.895
<v Speaker 4>prevent those drafts that will make your house. If it's

0:41:08.935 --> 0:41:12.895
<v Speaker 4>a conventional strip flooring, it'll help with there. If you

0:41:12.935 --> 0:41:15.495
<v Speaker 4>can do the walls, Yes, you need to do a

0:41:15.495 --> 0:41:17.935
<v Speaker 4>bit of research as to which is the best system

0:41:17.975 --> 0:41:21.655
<v Speaker 4>for your house, but yeah, adding insulation never a bad thing.

0:41:22.095 --> 0:41:24.975
<v Speaker 4>By the way, insallation doesn't cause overheating. We'll talk about

0:41:24.975 --> 0:41:32.375
<v Speaker 4>that after the break as well. Back after the Newsszon

0:41:33.975 --> 0:41:36.135
<v Speaker 4>Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

0:41:36.295 --> 0:41:39.175
<v Speaker 1>Get the right advice from Peter wolf Care, the resident

0:41:39.255 --> 0:41:43.655
<v Speaker 1>builder on news Talk said, b well girls.

0:41:44.095 --> 0:41:51.295
<v Speaker 4>By really those styles be aware and the sun girls

0:41:51.375 --> 0:41:55.455
<v Speaker 4>with the we time they knocked me out when I'm

0:41:55.575 --> 0:42:10.055
<v Speaker 4>down there westin Well, make your Newstalk's CB Pete wolf

0:42:10.055 --> 0:42:12.815
<v Speaker 4>Camp with you. We're talking all things building in construction

0:42:12.935 --> 0:42:16.055
<v Speaker 4>here at Newstalks CB on a Sunday morning. This is

0:42:16.135 --> 0:42:18.375
<v Speaker 4>the resident builder on Sunday, So if you'd like to

0:42:18.415 --> 0:42:20.415
<v Speaker 4>join me if you've got a question, eight hundred and

0:42:20.415 --> 0:42:24.455
<v Speaker 4>eighty ten eighty is the number to call now. Before

0:42:24.495 --> 0:42:30.255
<v Speaker 4>the break, Denny was one of our earlier callers talking

0:42:30.575 --> 0:42:34.695
<v Speaker 4>about a persistent leak in some twenty year old aluminium

0:42:34.775 --> 0:42:39.975
<v Speaker 4>jowinery which is set into a solid, semi solid masonry wall.

0:42:40.055 --> 0:42:42.255
<v Speaker 4>So what they call a hot block system, which was

0:42:42.935 --> 0:42:44.815
<v Speaker 4>blocks I don't even think you can buy them anymore,

0:42:45.055 --> 0:42:48.935
<v Speaker 4>concrete blocks that had a polystyrene skin inserted in them

0:42:48.935 --> 0:42:51.775
<v Speaker 4>to help with their thermal efficiency. So you could build

0:42:51.815 --> 0:42:55.295
<v Speaker 4>in this nice solid masonry construction joinery fits into a

0:42:55.335 --> 0:42:59.455
<v Speaker 4>rebate leak at the bottom of the joinery that's then

0:42:59.735 --> 0:43:04.055
<v Speaker 4>visible on the floor inside the dwelling. A couple of

0:43:04.095 --> 0:43:07.295
<v Speaker 4>attempts to fix it, a couple of suggestions that maybe

0:43:07.455 --> 0:43:11.015
<v Speaker 4>the leak might be in the fixed panel. Now Ron

0:43:11.055 --> 0:43:13.415
<v Speaker 4>has taxed through, and I have a feeling I know

0:43:13.655 --> 0:43:17.175
<v Speaker 4>Ron is but and not surprised by the accuracy of

0:43:17.215 --> 0:43:17.815
<v Speaker 4>his comments.

0:43:18.055 --> 0:43:18.575
<v Speaker 15>Pete.

0:43:18.775 --> 0:43:22.575
<v Speaker 4>Hinged door systems typically have a sump sill. If the

0:43:22.695 --> 0:43:27.455
<v Speaker 4>underside has been inadequately sealed, it's difficult to address. One

0:43:27.495 --> 0:43:31.055
<v Speaker 4>way is very careful and accurate invasion through the top

0:43:31.095 --> 0:43:34.095
<v Speaker 4>side platform, which will have drainage holes in it. The

0:43:34.095 --> 0:43:37.815
<v Speaker 4>accuracy of the seilent application is important. Could be done

0:43:38.535 --> 0:43:41.815
<v Speaker 4>by could be done or aided by micro chemict needs

0:43:41.815 --> 0:43:44.615
<v Speaker 4>to be done by a person who understands the product design.

0:43:45.095 --> 0:43:47.295
<v Speaker 4>Thanks very much for that, Ron, I agree with you,

0:43:47.375 --> 0:43:50.415
<v Speaker 4>and I wonder whether in this instance going back to

0:43:50.495 --> 0:43:54.255
<v Speaker 4>the original manufacturer. Often if you open a sash, you'll

0:43:54.255 --> 0:43:57.575
<v Speaker 4>see a logo or a label on the inside of

0:43:57.575 --> 0:44:00.135
<v Speaker 4>the sash or in the inside of the jam that

0:44:00.215 --> 0:44:02.455
<v Speaker 4>will tell you who the original manufacturer is. You go

0:44:02.575 --> 0:44:05.655
<v Speaker 4>back there, you talk to them because they understand how

0:44:05.735 --> 0:44:08.135
<v Speaker 4>all of those various components go together and how they

0:44:08.215 --> 0:44:11.415
<v Speaker 4>should perform. So if there's a drainage hole, it's not working.

0:44:11.455 --> 0:44:13.735
<v Speaker 4>And it's pushing water back inside the building. They could

0:44:13.775 --> 0:44:16.535
<v Speaker 4>sort that out. Or if it is as Ron describes

0:44:16.575 --> 0:44:20.535
<v Speaker 4>a sump sill, then there may be ways of checking that,

0:44:20.815 --> 0:44:24.015
<v Speaker 4>or look, it might just be the case of having

0:44:24.055 --> 0:44:28.695
<v Speaker 4>to take the joinery out, address the issue, reinstate the joinery,

0:44:29.335 --> 0:44:31.775
<v Speaker 4>which is obviously a bit of a bigger job. RIGHTO.

0:44:31.895 --> 0:44:34.615
<v Speaker 4>Nine minutes after seven here at news Talk, se'd be

0:44:34.775 --> 0:44:38.255
<v Speaker 4>remember after act thirty this morning, we will be into

0:44:38.295 --> 0:44:41.975
<v Speaker 4>the garden with Red Clone past as always. Actually remind

0:44:41.975 --> 0:44:45.015
<v Speaker 4>me I must talk to him about ruru. Apparently it's

0:44:45.015 --> 0:44:47.095
<v Speaker 4>coming up to nesting season. So if you've ever thought

0:44:47.095 --> 0:44:50.895
<v Speaker 4>about making an owl box a Ruru box, you should

0:44:50.895 --> 0:44:54.775
<v Speaker 4>do that. I've built two of them to two different designs.

0:44:55.255 --> 0:44:58.135
<v Speaker 4>Turns out neither of them is particularly suitable for barn

0:44:58.135 --> 0:45:00.495
<v Speaker 4>how's but they will be okay for ruru anyway. I've

0:45:00.495 --> 0:45:03.055
<v Speaker 4>given them away. So now I've heard that in the

0:45:03.095 --> 0:45:05.775
<v Speaker 4>area that I live in there are increasing reports of

0:45:05.855 --> 0:45:10.215
<v Speaker 4>ruru being seen around or heard maybe, So now I'm thinking,

0:45:10.335 --> 0:45:11.855
<v Speaker 4>right next to them in the workhop, We're going to

0:45:11.855 --> 0:45:13.855
<v Speaker 4>make another al box. We're going to make another rural box,

0:45:13.855 --> 0:45:16.855
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to use the plans from Wingspan, very

0:45:16.855 --> 0:45:20.015
<v Speaker 4>specific plans from Wingspan. I have a crack at that knowledge.

0:45:20.015 --> 0:45:21.495
<v Speaker 4>You know how I get on? Oh eight hundred and

0:45:21.495 --> 0:45:25.895
<v Speaker 4>eighty ten eighty is the number to call, right, Oh, Kate, Hello,

0:45:26.055 --> 0:45:26.695
<v Speaker 4>thanks for waiting.

0:45:27.815 --> 0:45:33.735
<v Speaker 9>Okay, the motion is so overwhelming that my little grievance

0:45:33.775 --> 0:45:35.095
<v Speaker 9>will probably make.

0:45:34.935 --> 0:45:38.735
<v Speaker 4>You laugh not at all to go for it because of.

0:45:38.655 --> 0:45:42.735
<v Speaker 9>The weather, and like, I'm an epsum and the weather's

0:45:42.855 --> 0:45:48.375
<v Speaker 9>being really, really poor. I've got a fireplace and I've

0:45:48.415 --> 0:45:52.975
<v Speaker 9>boarded it up. I've put bricks on you with a

0:45:52.975 --> 0:45:58.935
<v Speaker 9>big piece of wood or a sheet of whatever wood. Yes,

0:45:58.975 --> 0:46:01.735
<v Speaker 9>and I've put bricks at the bottom. But every time

0:46:02.055 --> 0:46:07.175
<v Speaker 9>the weather gets extremely windy or bad, the wood falls

0:46:07.175 --> 0:46:10.975
<v Speaker 9>out right and the air and the drug comes straight.

0:46:12.455 --> 0:46:12.775
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

0:46:12.935 --> 0:46:19.655
<v Speaker 9>And I don't know who I thought about putting some

0:46:19.735 --> 0:46:25.215
<v Speaker 9>POxy around the stade of the frame and sticking it.

0:46:25.295 --> 0:46:25.935
<v Speaker 9>What do you think?

0:46:28.015 --> 0:46:30.975
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not a particularly attractive solution, though, is it,

0:46:31.055 --> 0:46:32.735
<v Speaker 4>Because in the end, you know, it's it's in the

0:46:32.735 --> 0:46:35.055
<v Speaker 4>middle of the house. And I kind of understand where

0:46:35.055 --> 0:46:37.135
<v Speaker 4>you're coming from. So we have an old fireplace in

0:46:37.215 --> 0:46:39.775
<v Speaker 4>the front lounge at our place. It's an old house

0:46:39.815 --> 0:46:44.175
<v Speaker 4>as well. And you know, we use different types of

0:46:44.175 --> 0:46:46.495
<v Speaker 4>heating now, so I don't often use the open fire,

0:46:46.575 --> 0:46:48.895
<v Speaker 4>but of course the chimney still doing what the chimney does.

0:46:49.175 --> 0:46:52.055
<v Speaker 4>It sucks hot air out. So when I'm heating the

0:46:52.055 --> 0:46:56.415
<v Speaker 4>house and I've got an unused fireplace with a chimney,

0:46:56.455 --> 0:46:58.855
<v Speaker 4>it's just sucking the heat out, which is what it's

0:46:58.855 --> 0:47:01.015
<v Speaker 4>doing at your place. So for a long time I

0:47:01.095 --> 0:47:02.815
<v Speaker 4>used to just hold a little board up there as

0:47:02.855 --> 0:47:06.135
<v Speaker 4>well over the winter, and it probably did very little,

0:47:06.135 --> 0:47:07.975
<v Speaker 4>but it felt like I was doing the right thing.

0:47:08.495 --> 0:47:14.455
<v Speaker 4>What I ended up buying is a chimney balloon, right,

0:47:14.975 --> 0:47:17.895
<v Speaker 4>and I found it online. I think I ended up

0:47:18.015 --> 0:47:20.935
<v Speaker 4>ordering it from the UK, so it got sent out

0:47:21.375 --> 0:47:26.575
<v Speaker 4>and it's a kind of a durable almost like it. Sorry,

0:47:26.695 --> 0:47:28.375
<v Speaker 4>I had to ship it in. I don't know if

0:47:28.375 --> 0:47:31.295
<v Speaker 4>there's anyone tell you what it'd be a here's a

0:47:31.335 --> 0:47:33.695
<v Speaker 4>free tip for someone who wants to be a bit entrepreneurial.

0:47:34.055 --> 0:47:37.495
<v Speaker 4>Get into the businesses of importing these chimney balloons. So

0:47:37.535 --> 0:47:40.375
<v Speaker 4>what it is when you unpack it, it's like a

0:47:40.415 --> 0:47:42.575
<v Speaker 4>pillow slip, right, if you imagine the size of a

0:47:42.615 --> 0:47:44.655
<v Speaker 4>pillow slip, and it's got a nozzle on it with

0:47:44.735 --> 0:47:46.895
<v Speaker 4>a valve that you can turn on and off. So

0:47:46.975 --> 0:47:49.975
<v Speaker 4>what you do is you I partially inflated it, put

0:47:49.975 --> 0:47:53.895
<v Speaker 4>it inside the chimney, so in through the fireplace opening

0:47:54.295 --> 0:47:56.975
<v Speaker 4>just above. There's always a bit of a lip at

0:47:57.015 --> 0:47:58.935
<v Speaker 4>the back of it that helps the fire draw, so

0:47:58.975 --> 0:48:01.895
<v Speaker 4>you just push it slightly above there, and then I

0:48:01.895 --> 0:48:04.455
<v Speaker 4>actually used the little portable inflator and I pumped it

0:48:04.535 --> 0:48:07.295
<v Speaker 4>up until I felt that it was real reasonably firm,

0:48:07.655 --> 0:48:11.015
<v Speaker 4>and it seals all of the gaps around the chimney right.

0:48:11.615 --> 0:48:14.975
<v Speaker 4>So now from the outside it doesn't look any different,

0:48:15.055 --> 0:48:18.015
<v Speaker 4>so it still looks like an open fire, but it's

0:48:18.175 --> 0:48:21.015
<v Speaker 4>effectively sealed. I guess the only thing you have to

0:48:21.015 --> 0:48:23.695
<v Speaker 4>remember is if you ever wanted to have a fire,

0:48:23.735 --> 0:48:25.695
<v Speaker 4>you've got to remember to take the fire the chimney

0:48:25.695 --> 0:48:28.575
<v Speaker 4>balloon out, So that might be an option for you.

0:48:28.815 --> 0:48:32.735
<v Speaker 4>The other more longer term fix would be possibly to

0:48:32.775 --> 0:48:34.775
<v Speaker 4>get a roof to come and actually make you a

0:48:34.855 --> 0:48:37.175
<v Speaker 4>cap for the top of the chimney and actually seal

0:48:37.255 --> 0:48:41.015
<v Speaker 4>the chimney off at the top. But yeah, they are

0:48:41.055 --> 0:48:43.215
<v Speaker 4>a bit of an issue because lots of houses still

0:48:43.215 --> 0:48:47.335
<v Speaker 4>have chimneys and in wintertime, all they're doing is robbing

0:48:47.375 --> 0:48:50.575
<v Speaker 4>you of the heat that you've spent money to create.

0:48:52.615 --> 0:48:54.095
<v Speaker 9>And it's just one other thing.

0:48:54.215 --> 0:48:54.615
<v Speaker 18>I have.

0:48:57.855 --> 0:49:02.815
<v Speaker 9>A satellite on my roof and it's broken, so I

0:49:02.855 --> 0:49:08.615
<v Speaker 9>don't even need satellite, you know, at all. But would

0:49:08.655 --> 0:49:10.495
<v Speaker 9>I get someone to take that down?

0:49:12.015 --> 0:49:15.015
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if it's not like causing a problem, you

0:49:15.055 --> 0:49:17.735
<v Speaker 4>don't have to take it down, But typically they just

0:49:17.815 --> 0:49:21.295
<v Speaker 4>take screwed through the roofing material, hopefully into a perlin.

0:49:22.135 --> 0:49:24.415
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, absolutely no, get someone to take it down.

0:49:24.455 --> 0:49:26.175
<v Speaker 4>But then, of course you've got a hole in your roof.

0:49:26.255 --> 0:49:30.175
<v Speaker 4>So whoever takes it down needs well because the bracket

0:49:30.215 --> 0:49:32.895
<v Speaker 4>is screwed through into the peerlins, right, so screwed through

0:49:32.935 --> 0:49:35.375
<v Speaker 4>the islands of the peerlin. So when you take those out,

0:49:35.455 --> 0:49:38.615
<v Speaker 4>either put the screw back in the hole because it

0:49:38.655 --> 0:49:41.135
<v Speaker 4>should have a little neoprene washer in it so that'll

0:49:41.175 --> 0:49:44.655
<v Speaker 4>seal itself. Or that's probably actually the best solution, take

0:49:44.695 --> 0:49:46.575
<v Speaker 4>the bracket off, put the screw back and make sure

0:49:46.615 --> 0:49:48.975
<v Speaker 4>it's got a washer around it. Or if you don't

0:49:49.015 --> 0:49:50.495
<v Speaker 4>want to see the screw there, you can take it

0:49:50.535 --> 0:49:52.575
<v Speaker 4>out and apply some sealent. But I actually think the

0:49:52.575 --> 0:49:54.895
<v Speaker 4>better option is just leave the screw in place. But

0:49:54.975 --> 0:49:55.935
<v Speaker 4>just take the bracket away.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that's really nice advice.

0:49:59.415 --> 0:50:01.455
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, No trouble at all. All the

0:50:01.535 --> 0:50:04.535
<v Speaker 4>very best to you. Take care see O Cake. By then,

0:50:05.015 --> 0:50:09.015
<v Speaker 4>I'm just looking online. I don't know if there's another solution.

0:50:09.095 --> 0:50:11.855
<v Speaker 4>Maybe there is, but chimney balloon dot co dot uk

0:50:12.215 --> 0:50:15.335
<v Speaker 4>is I'm pretty sure that's where I got mine. And

0:50:15.495 --> 0:50:20.095
<v Speaker 4>I to be really embarrassingly true, I think I bought

0:50:20.135 --> 0:50:21.855
<v Speaker 4>it like a year ago, but I only installed it

0:50:21.935 --> 0:50:23.935
<v Speaker 4>a couple of months ago when the weather got cold,

0:50:24.015 --> 0:50:26.175
<v Speaker 4>and it took a couple of minutes to do. And

0:50:26.215 --> 0:50:29.055
<v Speaker 4>it's in there and it seems to be working. So

0:50:29.135 --> 0:50:30.895
<v Speaker 4>chimney balloon. If you've got an old chimney that you're

0:50:30.895 --> 0:50:33.735
<v Speaker 4>not using, an open flyer that you're not using, and

0:50:33.775 --> 0:50:35.935
<v Speaker 4>you are heating your house, then you're just losing all

0:50:35.975 --> 0:50:37.815
<v Speaker 4>of that heat through the chimney. So block it off

0:50:37.855 --> 0:50:41.015
<v Speaker 4>by putting in a chimney balloon. If there's a local source,

0:50:41.415 --> 0:50:45.215
<v Speaker 4>please let me know. But hey, it worked, and I

0:50:45.295 --> 0:50:48.615
<v Speaker 4>quite like solutions that work. It is coming up sixteen

0:50:48.655 --> 0:50:52.415
<v Speaker 4>minutes after seven. I do want to make a comment

0:50:52.495 --> 0:50:58.775
<v Speaker 4>in a moment which is a fairly technical and a

0:50:58.815 --> 0:51:04.455
<v Speaker 4>little bit long, winded, but I think quite important about

0:51:05.375 --> 0:51:10.975
<v Speaker 4>the online calculator for the Healthy homes heating requirements, particularly

0:51:11.015 --> 0:51:14.895
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to applying that to apartments. We'll do

0:51:14.975 --> 0:51:20.735
<v Speaker 4>that shortly, but first up, Jared, Greetings.

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<v Speaker 16>Good morning, Mike. How are you, Pete?

0:51:20.895 --> 0:51:22.295
<v Speaker 4>And I'm very well, thank you.

0:51:23.535 --> 0:51:24.015
<v Speaker 16>That's good.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the name wrong, that's quite right.

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<v Speaker 16>I've got color steel spouting on a twelve thirteen year

0:51:32.215 --> 0:51:39.375
<v Speaker 16>old house, and it's corroding and places on the inside

0:51:39.375 --> 0:51:43.535
<v Speaker 16>of the spouting where I presume I've used cut off

0:51:43.575 --> 0:51:48.375
<v Speaker 16>saws to cut the roofing to link and the firelings

0:51:48.375 --> 0:51:53.015
<v Speaker 16>have been left there and cause some areas of the

0:51:53.055 --> 0:51:57.455
<v Speaker 16>internal spouting to us just we spots and bubbles. And

0:51:57.495 --> 0:52:01.095
<v Speaker 16>I was wondering if you had anything in this solution

0:52:01.175 --> 0:52:02.735
<v Speaker 16>of mind would be the best.

0:52:03.215 --> 0:52:06.295
<v Speaker 4>Has the corrosion gone all the way through so obviously

0:52:06.375 --> 0:52:08.215
<v Speaker 4>from the underside you can see it, or is it

0:52:08.335 --> 0:52:10.255
<v Speaker 4>just visible inside the spouting?

0:52:11.215 --> 0:52:11.815
<v Speaker 16>Just visible?

0:52:12.695 --> 0:52:17.455
<v Speaker 4>Okay? All right, it's reasonably okay to get up there,

0:52:17.815 --> 0:52:19.735
<v Speaker 4>like you can be up there for half an hour

0:52:19.735 --> 0:52:22.855
<v Speaker 4>trying to fix it. Or is it a bit precarious?

0:52:23.415 --> 0:52:26.375
<v Speaker 14>Okay, get up on a ladder whatever, all.

0:52:26.415 --> 0:52:30.455
<v Speaker 4>Right, and it's extensive or just in some spots.

0:52:32.295 --> 0:52:37.015
<v Speaker 14>It's really the extensive. Actually it's more so on some

0:52:37.055 --> 0:52:40.175
<v Speaker 14>spots than other. I suppose it would extend for about

0:52:40.175 --> 0:52:42.135
<v Speaker 14>two meters I suppose in some areas.

0:52:42.655 --> 0:52:48.295
<v Speaker 4>Ah okay, right, yeah, Well, I guess the first thing

0:52:48.295 --> 0:52:50.215
<v Speaker 4>to do is to treat the rust, which you know,

0:52:50.255 --> 0:52:52.335
<v Speaker 4>if you can get in there with the wirebrush, remove

0:52:52.535 --> 0:52:55.815
<v Speaker 4>most of it, and then probably use like a rust

0:52:55.855 --> 0:52:59.735
<v Speaker 4>converter that will then neutralize the rust. And then you've

0:52:59.735 --> 0:53:02.255
<v Speaker 4>got a couple of options. One would be to apply

0:53:02.495 --> 0:53:06.295
<v Speaker 4>some rust kill primers, and there's a bunch of those

0:53:06.455 --> 0:53:09.695
<v Speaker 4>around there, and then just paint the inside of it.

0:53:09.855 --> 0:53:13.615
<v Speaker 4>The other option would be actually, it's a product we're

0:53:13.615 --> 0:53:15.935
<v Speaker 4>going to be talking about shortly that I used on

0:53:15.975 --> 0:53:19.815
<v Speaker 4>a little flat roof, which is a waterproof coating. It's

0:53:19.575 --> 0:53:24.015
<v Speaker 4>a silicon membrane flexible membrane that you can apply called

0:53:24.255 --> 0:53:30.375
<v Speaker 4>juris in juris so E N d U r I S,

0:53:32.615 --> 0:53:36.055
<v Speaker 4>which you could apply to the inside and it will

0:53:36.535 --> 0:53:38.935
<v Speaker 4>you know, it'll cover any small holes and it will

0:53:38.975 --> 0:53:41.535
<v Speaker 4>just give you it'll extend the life considerably, I would

0:53:41.575 --> 0:53:45.575
<v Speaker 4>imagine if that's spouting. So treat the rust primate and

0:53:45.615 --> 0:53:48.735
<v Speaker 4>then coat with either with a paint if you wanted to,

0:53:48.975 --> 0:53:50.695
<v Speaker 4>or with something like the silicon coating.

0:53:50.735 --> 0:53:55.775
<v Speaker 16>This indurious, okay, that it could be worth a try.

0:53:56.095 --> 0:54:00.255
<v Speaker 14>As I say, nothing has comes through underneath that.

0:54:00.295 --> 0:54:02.815
<v Speaker 16>You can just see these nige you're sitting on top

0:54:02.855 --> 0:54:05.535
<v Speaker 16>of the internal.

0:54:05.415 --> 0:54:11.095
<v Speaker 14>Right through the paint what it called pre painted color steel.

0:54:11.175 --> 0:54:13.615
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep, so on that sort of that primer coat

0:54:13.655 --> 0:54:15.615
<v Speaker 4>that's on the inside, you'll see the rust starting to

0:54:15.695 --> 0:54:18.535
<v Speaker 4>sit there. Frustrating though, isn't it when you think you know,

0:54:18.575 --> 0:54:23.255
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't like it's a real I I'd be really

0:54:23.335 --> 0:54:26.775
<v Speaker 4>disappointed in the original contractor if they used hot cutting

0:54:26.935 --> 0:54:33.575
<v Speaker 4>on any type of pre coated steel, because that's a

0:54:33.615 --> 0:54:33.895
<v Speaker 4>no no.

0:54:34.095 --> 0:54:34.335
<v Speaker 10>Right.

0:54:34.495 --> 0:54:37.095
<v Speaker 4>Doing that is a is a no no. And it's

0:54:37.175 --> 0:54:42.575
<v Speaker 4>amazing how far those sparks effectively go if you're using

0:54:42.615 --> 0:54:47.935
<v Speaker 4>a grinder to cut metal outside. I've made and I

0:54:47.975 --> 0:54:50.615
<v Speaker 4>know this from my own harsh experience, I've made some

0:54:50.735 --> 0:54:53.255
<v Speaker 4>stupid mistakes over the years where I've thought I'll just

0:54:53.935 --> 0:54:56.375
<v Speaker 4>get the old cutoff blade in the grinder and hack

0:54:56.455 --> 0:54:58.815
<v Speaker 4>that off, and then I've you know, a couple of

0:54:58.815 --> 0:55:01.655
<v Speaker 4>weeks later, suddenly there's rought spots all over the place.

0:55:01.655 --> 0:55:04.815
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, oh, that was me, your muppet. So

0:55:04.855 --> 0:55:08.335
<v Speaker 4>hopefully I've learned my lesson. Had years ago we did

0:55:08.375 --> 0:55:10.215
<v Speaker 4>a job where we had to cut a handrail down

0:55:10.535 --> 0:55:15.055
<v Speaker 4>and the boys used a grinder with a cutoff blade

0:55:15.055 --> 0:55:18.175
<v Speaker 4>to cut through the handrail, but the sparks ended up

0:55:18.175 --> 0:55:22.415
<v Speaker 4>going against the glass of a big sliding door and embedding.

0:55:22.615 --> 0:55:26.335
<v Speaker 4>The hot sparks ended up embedding on the surface of

0:55:26.375 --> 0:55:29.175
<v Speaker 4>the glass and when I found I saw it the

0:55:29.215 --> 0:55:33.495
<v Speaker 4>next day and I'm like, oh you. Thankfully we're actually

0:55:33.495 --> 0:55:36.655
<v Speaker 4>able to get those nervous guys who do the windscreen repairs.

0:55:36.975 --> 0:55:39.655
<v Speaker 4>They came and ground the surface of the glass back

0:55:39.775 --> 0:55:41.815
<v Speaker 4>and got rid of the sparks, but it was still

0:55:42.135 --> 0:55:44.535
<v Speaker 4>terribly embarrassing. I have to say, there you go. It's

0:55:44.535 --> 0:55:48.095
<v Speaker 4>all out in the open now. Yeah, it does happen.

0:55:49.415 --> 0:55:53.255
<v Speaker 14>There was just one other the silicon they used on

0:55:53.295 --> 0:55:58.015
<v Speaker 14>the joints. Yes, I think what has happened that the

0:55:58.055 --> 0:56:00.815
<v Speaker 14>previous owners had never cleaned the spouting out and there's

0:56:00.815 --> 0:56:05.335
<v Speaker 14>been an accumulation of silk and it seems to have

0:56:05.375 --> 0:56:09.655
<v Speaker 14>lifted the silk and on the joint and about the

0:56:09.895 --> 0:56:14.455
<v Speaker 14>leaking on the corners right, because the silicon has absolutely had,

0:56:14.615 --> 0:56:16.855
<v Speaker 14>and I just wondered what would be the best way

0:56:16.895 --> 0:56:21.335
<v Speaker 14>of going about fixing that or replacing that silicon somehow?

0:56:22.295 --> 0:56:24.295
<v Speaker 4>Look to be fair if if like, if you're going

0:56:24.375 --> 0:56:26.655
<v Speaker 4>to use that Injurius coating, you could apply that through

0:56:26.655 --> 0:56:30.295
<v Speaker 4>the corner and it's sort out the corner as well,

0:56:29.895 --> 0:56:33.535
<v Speaker 4>right over the top of over the top of the

0:56:33.575 --> 0:56:40.135
<v Speaker 4>existing silicon. It wouldn't matter, right, Yeah, So check it

0:56:40.175 --> 0:56:46.015
<v Speaker 4>out online. All the best, Thank you, take care. I

0:56:46.095 --> 0:56:49.295
<v Speaker 4>think the work to do, and look, it's that thing

0:56:49.335 --> 0:56:50.895
<v Speaker 4>of being up on the ladder. I've got one job

0:56:50.935 --> 0:56:53.495
<v Speaker 4>to do this week, which is sort of trying to

0:56:53.535 --> 0:56:56.015
<v Speaker 4>address an issue with some windows on the second floor,

0:56:57.575 --> 0:57:00.415
<v Speaker 4>and I need to get a letter. I tell you,

0:57:00.575 --> 0:57:03.735
<v Speaker 4>he's can I ask your advice if anyone knows where

0:57:03.775 --> 0:57:07.615
<v Speaker 4>I can get those safety steps not safety step, they're

0:57:07.655 --> 0:57:09.175
<v Speaker 4>like a mat that you put on the ground to

0:57:09.215 --> 0:57:13.975
<v Speaker 4>stop your extension ladder slipping away at the bottom. If

0:57:14.015 --> 0:57:16.255
<v Speaker 4>there's somewhere that you know where you can get them

0:57:16.255 --> 0:57:18.615
<v Speaker 4>at a reasonable price, let me know, because I want

0:57:18.655 --> 0:57:21.255
<v Speaker 4>to buy one of those. I'm just thinking about being

0:57:21.335 --> 0:57:23.095
<v Speaker 4>up there on the top of the extension ladder. I'll

0:57:23.095 --> 0:57:26.855
<v Speaker 4>probably be about three meters in the air, leaning against

0:57:26.855 --> 0:57:30.615
<v Speaker 4>the house. And it happened to me once climbing onto

0:57:30.655 --> 0:57:33.175
<v Speaker 4>a roof where I had set up the extension ladder,

0:57:34.295 --> 0:57:36.855
<v Speaker 4>was climbing up. It was sitting on the deck. The

0:57:36.935 --> 0:57:39.975
<v Speaker 4>deck was wet and the bottom of the ladder slipped

0:57:40.015 --> 0:57:43.135
<v Speaker 4>out and I went straight down. I'm just I don't

0:57:43.135 --> 0:57:45.135
<v Speaker 4>want that to happen again. So if you know where

0:57:45.175 --> 0:57:46.775
<v Speaker 4>I can get one of those, let me know please. Oh,

0:57:46.815 --> 0:57:48.935
<v Speaker 4>eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

0:57:48.975 --> 0:57:51.095
<v Speaker 4>It is twenty two minutes after seven, so it's two

0:57:51.175 --> 0:57:53.735
<v Speaker 4>way conversation. You can help me out as well. Eight

0:57:53.855 --> 0:57:56.015
<v Speaker 4>hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If

0:57:56.095 --> 0:57:58.735
<v Speaker 4>you've got a building question, call us right now.

0:57:59.375 --> 0:58:03.255
<v Speaker 1>Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

0:58:03.295 --> 0:58:06.655
<v Speaker 1>Filder with Peter WOLFCAF call oh eight hundred and eighty

0:58:07.015 --> 0:58:07.775
<v Speaker 1>talk ZV.

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<v Speaker 4>You and you talk CB. Someone's just text and rust.

0:58:11.735 --> 0:58:14.255
<v Speaker 4>Spots in the gutter likely aren't from the cutting. Yeah,

0:58:14.295 --> 0:58:16.375
<v Speaker 4>I think it's unlikely too. They'll be from the screws

0:58:16.375 --> 0:58:18.615
<v Speaker 4>that the installation. The screw has drilled like tip that

0:58:18.695 --> 0:58:22.135
<v Speaker 4>makes its own hole, which leaves the cutting behind the swarf.

0:58:22.815 --> 0:58:24.735
<v Speaker 4>General procedure is to use a blower at the end

0:58:24.775 --> 0:58:26.255
<v Speaker 4>of the day to get it off the roof. Is

0:58:26.855 --> 0:58:30.815
<v Speaker 4>one night of jew is enough to cause those rust spots. Unfortunately,

0:58:30.895 --> 0:58:33.975
<v Speaker 4>contracts of contractors often leave it there. It's not uncommon,

0:58:34.055 --> 0:58:36.775
<v Speaker 4>especially as more builders hang the gutters before the roofing.

0:58:37.375 --> 0:58:41.535
<v Speaker 4>That's often the case now the sort of external facure

0:58:41.535 --> 0:58:44.175
<v Speaker 4>and the spouting goes up and then the roofing goes on.

0:58:44.255 --> 0:58:48.295
<v Speaker 4>So if there's any swarf on the roof from drilling

0:58:48.335 --> 0:58:51.255
<v Speaker 4>through your fixings, that tends to end up in the gutter.

0:58:51.655 --> 0:58:53.775
<v Speaker 4>And then while they might blow it down from the roof,

0:58:54.215 --> 0:58:57.455
<v Speaker 4>maybe not that many roofs then go through and make

0:58:57.495 --> 0:59:00.215
<v Speaker 4>sure that they've cleaned out the spouting to ensure that

0:59:00.215 --> 0:59:03.975
<v Speaker 4>that swarf doesn't sit there causing rust. Thanks very much

0:59:04.015 --> 0:59:05.255
<v Speaker 4>for that, Chris, much appreciate it.

0:59:07.095 --> 0:59:07.815
<v Speaker 18>I do want to make.

0:59:07.735 --> 0:59:12.175
<v Speaker 4>Sure I talk about this Healthy homes Heating Assessment tool

0:59:12.375 --> 0:59:16.575
<v Speaker 4>online in my recent experience with it. I'll try and

0:59:16.615 --> 0:59:23.015
<v Speaker 4>do that shortly. Christine, Hello there, Hello, Hi Peter, I

0:59:23.055 --> 0:59:26.735
<v Speaker 4>haven't called you before. Well, I'm delighted you have, thank

0:59:26.775 --> 0:59:27.415
<v Speaker 4>you and welcome.

0:59:28.935 --> 0:59:29.335
<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

0:59:31.015 --> 0:59:37.775
<v Speaker 11>I'm just wondering your thoughts on putting in dvs.

0:59:38.655 --> 0:59:39.455
<v Speaker 19>Into your home.

0:59:39.815 --> 0:59:44.895
<v Speaker 11>Yep, well, I guess it versus the other one?

0:59:44.975 --> 0:59:45.495
<v Speaker 9>What is it?

0:59:45.775 --> 0:59:49.695
<v Speaker 4>H is the other common brand that you're probably thinking of?

0:59:51.695 --> 0:59:55.015
<v Speaker 4>Can Can I sort of widen the discussion a little bit, right,

0:59:55.655 --> 1:00:00.015
<v Speaker 4>So rather than speak specifically about either of those two brands,

1:00:00.655 --> 1:00:06.175
<v Speaker 4>there's a growing awareness of that one of the one

1:00:06.175 --> 1:00:08.655
<v Speaker 4>of the areas where our houses fail is that we

1:00:08.735 --> 1:00:12.935
<v Speaker 4>don't do adequate ventilation. And I know sometimes that discussion

1:00:13.015 --> 1:00:15.535
<v Speaker 4>often becomes will just open a window, but for a

1:00:15.535 --> 1:00:18.655
<v Speaker 4>lot of different reasons, people may not want to do that.

1:00:18.975 --> 1:00:22.135
<v Speaker 4>Or you know, if it's cold and windy, then you

1:00:22.175 --> 1:00:23.815
<v Speaker 4>don't want to open a window because you're going to

1:00:23.935 --> 1:00:27.175
<v Speaker 4>let all of that inside. Right, So let's get rid

1:00:27.215 --> 1:00:29.815
<v Speaker 4>of the excuses for not doing ventilation and look at

1:00:29.815 --> 1:00:34.975
<v Speaker 4>the fact that ventilation, proper mechanical ventilation, well designed and

1:00:35.015 --> 1:00:38.575
<v Speaker 4>well installed, is a benefit to almost every house.

1:00:38.855 --> 1:00:39.055
<v Speaker 18>Right.

1:00:40.055 --> 1:00:42.415
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't mean that you don't open the doors and windows

1:00:42.655 --> 1:00:46.135
<v Speaker 4>when you can, but it allows for ventilation to happen

1:00:46.135 --> 1:00:49.415
<v Speaker 4>when those things can't happen. So I think you've got

1:00:49.455 --> 1:00:55.415
<v Speaker 4>to look at what's really effective about ventilation, Drawing air

1:00:55.535 --> 1:00:59.575
<v Speaker 4>from outside and ideally passing it over a heat exchanger

1:01:00.375 --> 1:01:03.535
<v Speaker 4>and then pushing it into the dry areas of the

1:01:03.655 --> 1:01:06.735
<v Speaker 4>house and having a system that also extracts from what

1:01:06.775 --> 1:01:09.415
<v Speaker 4>we might call the moist areas or the wet areas

1:01:09.415 --> 1:01:15.495
<v Speaker 4>of the house kitchens, laundries, bathrooms is probably the best system.

1:01:15.895 --> 1:01:18.055
<v Speaker 4>So I think if you're going to engage with a

1:01:18.095 --> 1:01:20.895
<v Speaker 4>contractor about that, you want to make sure that you're

1:01:20.935 --> 1:01:24.055
<v Speaker 4>getting independent advice, and you want to make sure that

1:01:24.095 --> 1:01:28.735
<v Speaker 4>they've got a really good knowledge of where where the

1:01:28.815 --> 1:01:31.695
<v Speaker 4>ventilation system will be most how it's going to be

1:01:31.895 --> 1:01:36.975
<v Speaker 4>installed to give you the greatest benefit. And I think

1:01:37.455 --> 1:01:39.575
<v Speaker 4>you probably are thinking, well, if I put one of

1:01:39.575 --> 1:01:44.695
<v Speaker 4>these systems in, it'll make it warmer. I've never really

1:01:44.775 --> 1:01:48.255
<v Speaker 4>thought that they are tremendously effective in terms of actually

1:01:48.375 --> 1:01:52.295
<v Speaker 4>creating warmth. But where they are effective is because they

1:01:52.375 --> 1:01:56.175
<v Speaker 4>help reduce the moisture content inside the house. The house

1:01:56.295 --> 1:02:01.055
<v Speaker 4>is able. You know, warming dry air is easier than

1:02:01.095 --> 1:02:04.495
<v Speaker 4>warming moist air. So if you've got air that's heavy

1:02:04.535 --> 1:02:07.735
<v Speaker 4>with moisture inside your house, that's going to be harder

1:02:07.775 --> 1:02:10.975
<v Speaker 4>to heat. And the way that you can move that

1:02:11.095 --> 1:02:14.175
<v Speaker 4>around and extract that is by having a really effective

1:02:14.375 --> 1:02:19.175
<v Speaker 4>ventilation system. So and like there's a lot of discussion

1:02:19.215 --> 1:02:24.015
<v Speaker 4>at the moment about installing continuous flow extraction, let's say

1:02:24.015 --> 1:02:26.815
<v Speaker 4>in bathrooms and so on. So rather than having an

1:02:26.895 --> 1:02:30.335
<v Speaker 4>extraction fan that you turn on and it runs for

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<v Speaker 4>a period of time and then typically we turn it off,

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<v Speaker 4>they are systems that will monitor the amount of moisture

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<v Speaker 4>detected the humidity in the room, for example, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they will ramp up when that you know, when you

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<v Speaker 4>hop into the shower and you're generating lots of moist

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<v Speaker 4>air and then but they will continue to run at

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<v Speaker 4>a lower level all through the day, and that helps

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<v Speaker 4>create a situation where if you know, imagine if you've

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<v Speaker 4>got a little extractor in the bathroom that is running constantly,

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<v Speaker 4>what it's doing is drawing air from the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the house and expelling it all through the day, and

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<v Speaker 4>that that increases ventilation and inevitably you'll have air sort

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<v Speaker 4>of filtering into the house through gaps and cracks. Ideally

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<v Speaker 4>we want to control that. But even if we're not

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<v Speaker 4>controlling it, but we're extracting it continuously, that's a benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>So it is like, I know people that this is

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<v Speaker 4>their life's work, right talking about ventilation, extraction, air quality.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's let's not try and make it a simple

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<v Speaker 4>solution when it is both simple and very very complex

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time. So I'd encourage you to do

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<v Speaker 4>lots and lots of reading and research before you make

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<v Speaker 4>a decision.

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<v Speaker 9>All right, I.

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<v Speaker 11>Have. I have done some reading, and I am perplexed

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<v Speaker 11>about the whole thing. Sure, sorry, but I'm a free

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<v Speaker 11>you know. I love the windows open when I can.

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<v Speaker 11>I've had double closed the whole place as well, and

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<v Speaker 11>just about to put some more insulation. So I guess

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<v Speaker 11>going down that pathway might be best while I'm reading

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<v Speaker 11>about the other one.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you what you know, because one of these

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<v Speaker 4>things with doing some research and some reading is you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to make sure you're reading the right stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've just done a quick search just out of curiosity,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, if you want some really good information,

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<v Speaker 4>go to reputable sources. So I would suggest that you

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<v Speaker 4>have a look at the brand's website. That's b r

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<v Speaker 4>A n Z so, the Building Research Authority of New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 4>They have got a whole lot of information about ventilation

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<v Speaker 4>on their website and it's really really good information. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>have a look there and good luck.

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<v Speaker 6>But do you go ahead with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't don't let me put you off by trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make it sound complicated. Get some really good ventilation and

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<v Speaker 4>it would be great. But yeah, you've got to talk

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<v Speaker 4>to the right person and they've got to know what

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<v Speaker 4>they're talking about, not just selling you a system for

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<v Speaker 4>the hell of it. All right, ye, lovely to talk

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<v Speaker 4>to you. Thank you very much for calling you all

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<v Speaker 4>the very best, take care loving those conversations. Oh eight

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter twice God was but maybe called Pete first for

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<v Speaker 1>your walk care. The resident builder news Talk said, be your.

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<v Speaker 4>News talks hed b and let me see six thirty

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<v Speaker 4>seven thirty six pardon me here at Newstalks the b

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<v Speaker 4>Allen good morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Goodness?

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<v Speaker 7>What's up, Nasal. I've got a wheelchair ram now to

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<v Speaker 7>say something about that DHD later on. I've got a

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<v Speaker 7>wheelchair ram. And when you walk up and down, if

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<v Speaker 7>you're not in the wheelchair, it's gets slippery. Yep, because

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<v Speaker 7>it's under one roof on my back carboard. It is

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<v Speaker 7>on the roof is on a possibly a sixth degree angle,

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<v Speaker 7>and the house roof there's a bathroom, there's there's possibly

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<v Speaker 7>about thirty thirty degrees, which leaves a gap getting from

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<v Speaker 7>nothing down to quite a bit of fot say, but

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<v Speaker 7>there again the rain comes in where you walk down

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<v Speaker 7>the side out the back of a bathroom too. What

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<v Speaker 7>can I do with it?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the REMP made out of.

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<v Speaker 18>Timber?

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<v Speaker 4>Timber and so timber framing with timber decking on top of.

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<v Speaker 7>It four to one tip. Yeah, there's fourber ones and

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<v Speaker 7>there's little slots in between. There's a gap between each board.

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<v Speaker 17>Two yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they've used what they call a grip treade decking,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've done the grooved side up, which is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of all of the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 20>But it's just ordinary form rough storm four one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, tantalized danalized, Yeah, rough sor yeah, it's just rough.

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<v Speaker 7>But as great as you walking onland all the time,

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<v Speaker 7>it's getting smooth.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, did did you have this

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<v Speaker 4>built for you or did someone come and build it

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<v Speaker 4>for you? Or was it there when you moved in?

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<v Speaker 7>I had to come in, but I helped helped him.

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<v Speaker 4>To be fair, I wouldn't be very happy with him,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean doing using some rough storm. Timber

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<v Speaker 4>is decking on an accessibility ramp is pretty poor. Did

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<v Speaker 4>did they get any funding like through acc or anything

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<v Speaker 4>like that for the work that they did?

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<v Speaker 7>I think them hospital why come to something some arrangement.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a bit of a waste of money. Okay, Look,

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<v Speaker 4>the most straightforward solution is going to be something along

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<v Speaker 4>the lines of plastic mesh that you'll staple down over

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<v Speaker 4>the top, right you see it. Lots of sort of

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<v Speaker 4>boardwalks and our you know, public forests and public spaces

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes will have that on it. And essentially it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a way of creating a slip resistant surface to an

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<v Speaker 4>existing timber surface. So you know, stainless steel, horseshoe nails,

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<v Speaker 4>stainless steel staples to fix it down. Mesh, the right

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<v Speaker 4>type of mesh, the right durability and so on, so

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<v Speaker 4>it can't be too lightweight, and just fix that down

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<v Speaker 4>over the top would be the most straightforward fixed. But

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say that's it. You know, it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>like it's disappointing bit of work to be blunted.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, Can I make a suggestion?

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<v Speaker 4>Go for it?

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<v Speaker 7>I was thinking of.

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<v Speaker 21>Putting another beam down underneath the beam that's there and

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<v Speaker 21>putting some fly we're on it, and as you're on

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<v Speaker 21>that beam, your hang down in media, make a stud

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<v Speaker 21>in mid air off the top.

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<v Speaker 7>Beam and the run you put in and extended one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred miles down and put a put a four we

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<v Speaker 7>two at right angles.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that's more about trying to stop the ramp

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<v Speaker 4>from getting wet by closing the gap between the two roofs,

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<v Speaker 4>right and look, that would help, but it doesn't. In

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<v Speaker 4>the event that the deck gets wet, the deck is

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<v Speaker 4>still going to be slippery, right, So yes, you could

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<v Speaker 4>do what you're thinking about doing, and if that works, that's.

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<v Speaker 20>Great flashing over the bathroom, but it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Look that would probably you know, if the deck stays dry,

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<v Speaker 4>then the deck is going to be less slippery. But

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<v Speaker 4>inevitably these things get wet, and so I would kind

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<v Speaker 4>of focus on dealing with the issue, which is that

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<v Speaker 4>it's the type of timber that's been used I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think is suitable. And yes, it is going to get slippery,

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<v Speaker 4>and you could do it with a mesh. There are

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<v Speaker 4>more sort of you know, detailed solutions. I was looking

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<v Speaker 4>at some non slip mats the other day that you

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<v Speaker 4>could fix down. They're like a fiberglass mesh type thing

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<v Speaker 4>or a non slip mat that you could fix down

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<v Speaker 4>over the top that would give you a permanent surface,

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<v Speaker 4>So that would be another option as well. So there

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<v Speaker 4>are solutions for it. It'll either be a mesh or

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be a mat of some description. But again, not

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to go on about it. It's kind of disappointing

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<v Speaker 4>if somebody, especially if somebody's got basically taxpayer money to

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<v Speaker 4>go and do a job like that for you, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they've done a basically rubbish job, it's a bit annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck with all of that. Alan, Oh, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Can

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<v Speaker 4>I just take I'm hoping that this is only going

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<v Speaker 4>to take a minute. But it's been a quite interesting

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<v Speaker 4>little investigation that I've been part of over the last

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<v Speaker 4>six weeks or so. It's particularly pertinent because the deadline

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<v Speaker 4>for all of the Healthy Homes compliance starts on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>the first of July. So if you were a landlord

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<v Speaker 4>and you had a property and you needed to ensure

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<v Speaker 4>that it was up to Healthy Home standards, there had

1:11:58.575 --> 1:12:01.255
<v Speaker 4>always been sort of some exemptions right, if it was

1:12:01.255 --> 1:12:03.295
<v Speaker 4>a sitting tendency all the rest of it, you could

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<v Speaker 4>delay it. There are no more delays from the of July,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Tuesday. All residential residential rental properties need to

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<v Speaker 4>comply with the Healthy Home standards. A key part of

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<v Speaker 4>that is the heating requirement. And if you've worked through

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<v Speaker 4>this yourself as a landlord or maybe you're doing these assessments,

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<v Speaker 4>typically you'll use the heating calculator which is on the

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<v Speaker 4>Tenancy Services website, So do a quick online search. You'll

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<v Speaker 4>find it and then it steps you through a process

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<v Speaker 4>so you will measure the space. So the requirement is

1:12:39.495 --> 1:12:41.855
<v Speaker 4>that you need to achieve it's either eighteen or twenty

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<v Speaker 4>degrees on the coldest day and your climatic zone in

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<v Speaker 4>the living space, just the living space of the house,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to achieve a heating requirement. It'll the

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<v Speaker 4>calculation will allow you to get a number kill a

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<v Speaker 4>what hours, and that's the amount of heating that you

1:13:00.015 --> 1:13:02.415
<v Speaker 4>need to have in that space. If you're a landlord,

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<v Speaker 4>you should have done this. If you're a tenant, you

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<v Speaker 4>should have been given Healthy Home certificate when you started

1:13:08.495 --> 1:13:12.535
<v Speaker 4>your residential tendency. It's part of your tenancy agreement. So

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<v Speaker 4>literally every single property in the country residential tendancy should

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<v Speaker 4>have heating calculation done on it and the tool. I've

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<v Speaker 4>used the tool a number of times in conventional residential properties,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, either a standalone building or semi detached block

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<v Speaker 4>of flats, that sort of thing, and I think the

1:13:34.495 --> 1:13:38.015
<v Speaker 4>tool works reasonably well. I was asked by some people

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<v Speaker 4>that own an apartment to have a look at their

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<v Speaker 4>heating assessment because they had done a heating assessment it

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<v Speaker 4>had told them that in the apartment, which had a

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<v Speaker 4>living space of about forty eight square meters, that they

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<v Speaker 4>required four point four killer watts of heating. As it happens,

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<v Speaker 4>what they went and did was by two high quality

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<v Speaker 4>electric wall heaters that were fixed to the wall so

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't be moved around, and that each of those

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<v Speaker 4>was two point four kilowatts, So that gave them four

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<v Speaker 4>point eight kilowatts of heating for that space, and they

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<v Speaker 4>thought that they then complied with the regulation. Turns out

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<v Speaker 4>that there is part of the regulation that says that

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<v Speaker 4>if you need a heating requirement of more than two

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<v Speaker 4>point four kilowatts of heating, that can only be a

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<v Speaker 4>heat pump, so they're electric heating. While it provided them

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<v Speaker 4>with the heating, didn't comply with all of the legislation

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<v Speaker 4>because it wasn't a heat pump, which meant that after

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<v Speaker 4>spending the money on the electric heaters, they now had

1:14:41.895 --> 1:14:44.375
<v Speaker 4>to literally take those away or not use them and

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<v Speaker 4>install a heat pump in order to comply with the

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<v Speaker 4>looming deadline. This is an apartment, right, So it's an

1:14:52.215 --> 1:14:55.055
<v Speaker 4>apartment like there are tens of thousands of them around

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<v Speaker 4>the country and more of them to come. There is

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<v Speaker 4>a habitable space below, there is a habitable space. Above

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<v Speaker 4>there is a habitable a space on many of the

1:15:04.535 --> 1:15:08.415
<v Speaker 4>adjoining walls end tenancy wall. So I went did a

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<v Speaker 4>measure up, calculated the floor space, measured the outside wall,

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<v Speaker 4>measured the size of the window, which was a standard

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<v Speaker 4>sliding door with some single glazing aluminium conventional aluminium, went

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<v Speaker 4>away and used the heating tool. But to be fair

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<v Speaker 4>and to be really honest, I faked the numbers right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I looked at it and said, well, actually, the

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<v Speaker 4>floor is not like a floor of a conventional building

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<v Speaker 4>where the outside space is unconditioned. It can get really

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<v Speaker 4>cold because below this apartment is another apartment, and even

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<v Speaker 4>it was uninhabited, it's unlikely to get below I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen sixteen degrees, maybe ten twelve degrees at the very coldest,

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<v Speaker 4>if it was uninhabited for a period of time. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>in reality, most of the time someone's living there, they're

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<v Speaker 4>warming their place. Your place benefits and the heat that

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<v Speaker 4>you create benefits the person above. So there's a unit above,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a unit below, there's units on two sides of

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<v Speaker 4>this particular building. So I kind of use the tool,

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<v Speaker 4>but I faked the numbers. I'll be really honest, I

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<v Speaker 4>or fudge the numbers to reflect what I thought was

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<v Speaker 4>a real world performance. And so by using the online tool,

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<v Speaker 4>I got to a number of one point two killer

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<v Speaker 4>watts of heating. It's considerably less than four point four

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<v Speaker 4>and less again than three point two. But of course

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<v Speaker 4>I can't use those numbers to provide that evidence for

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<v Speaker 4>a healthy homes assessment because obviously I had manipulated the

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<v Speaker 4>numbers for a real world experience. So we went off

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<v Speaker 4>to a basically a consultant who specializes an energy modeling

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<v Speaker 4>of residential properties, gave them all the details. They created

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<v Speaker 4>a very complex and detailed energy model for that dwelling,

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<v Speaker 4>and their findings came back the other day. The interesting

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<v Speaker 4>thing is the requirement that they determine. This is highly

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<v Speaker 4>scientific using very good data. So bearing in mind the

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<v Speaker 4>requirement initially was found to be four point four then

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<v Speaker 4>the other review said three point six. I did my

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<v Speaker 4>dodgy science and got it down to about one point

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<v Speaker 4>two killo watts of heating required. The actual scientific requirement

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<v Speaker 4>for the heating of that particular apartment ended up being

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<v Speaker 4>zero point five seven killer watts of heating. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>easily achieved by the electric heaters that they've got and

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<v Speaker 4>as a real willed analysis of the requirements of that space.

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<v Speaker 4>And I sat there and I looked at the email

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<v Speaker 4>the other day, and I looked at the report. I

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<v Speaker 4>know the people who did it. I've been to the apartment,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes sense to me. The concern now is

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<v Speaker 4>that if you are a landlord of an apartment, or

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<v Speaker 4>you're the property manager of an apartment, or you do

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<v Speaker 4>healthy homes assessments and you use the online calculator that

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<v Speaker 4>it's available through tendency services, you're going to get a

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<v Speaker 4>number that doesn't actually I don't know how to put this,

1:18:14.495 --> 1:18:19.015
<v Speaker 4>but doesn't really make sense in terms of what's actually required.

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<v Speaker 4>So the tool doesn't have the nuance to allow for apartments.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that this has been discussed sort of

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<v Speaker 4>in building circles for a couple of years now that

1:18:29.615 --> 1:18:34.055
<v Speaker 4>the tool is designed for typical residential buildings, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have some sympathy for the government in terms of trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out, let's give them a tool that will

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<v Speaker 4>work for most situations, but it doesn't work for apartments.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can't put that any other way. It just

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work for apartments. So the only way for a

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<v Speaker 4>landlord potentially or an apartment owner who is renting that

1:18:53.855 --> 1:18:56.175
<v Speaker 4>apartment out to get an accurate thing is to go

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<v Speaker 4>off and get an independent heating assessment done, which most won't.

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<v Speaker 4>So potentially we're getting assessments done, creating higher numbers than

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<v Speaker 4>we need and putting in potentially putting in some heat

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<v Speaker 4>pumps and places we don't need them, or providing far

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<v Speaker 4>more heating than's actually realistically required. You may care to comic.

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<v Speaker 4>I found the whole process absolutely fascinating. Right, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to take a short break. That's my rent over It

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<v Speaker 4>is coming up nine minutes away. From eight that I'd

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<v Speaker 4>love to take your calls on that particular issue. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want to take some exception to what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>by all means, give me a call. Oh, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 4>eighty ten eighty is the number.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete for

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<v Speaker 1>ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eight News

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<v Speaker 1>Dog ZV A couple of minutes away.

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<v Speaker 4>From News top of the hour. Yes, great song, but

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit early. I think maybe maybe we'll grab

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<v Speaker 4>another call. Hey Stanley, good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yes, look, good morning Pete. Now I have a

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<v Speaker 10>suggestion for people with open fireplaces and you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, the air escaping up the chimney. Ye get

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<v Speaker 10>a set of louvers, detachable louvers that fit over it,

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<v Speaker 10>nice attractive ones, and then keep them shut most of

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<v Speaker 10>the time. But in the summer when.

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<v Speaker 4>You want the cooling, Yes, open them up.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a bad idea. I like my chimney balloon more.

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<v Speaker 4>But I hear what you're saying, because.

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<v Speaker 10>Because you can get you know, the nice attractive ones

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<v Speaker 10>made yea to match the decore of the room, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Look you know. I think the main thing is that

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<v Speaker 4>what we're doing as people are aware that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and lots and lots of so many older New Zealand houses, villas, bungalows,

1:20:59.135 --> 1:21:04.015
<v Speaker 4>et cetera. Many have fireplaces right and and not that

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<v Speaker 4>many of us use the fireplace anymore. So you can

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<v Speaker 4>either do the retrofit and install more energy efficient heating

1:21:12.055 --> 1:21:15.615
<v Speaker 4>system into them and then seal the roof with a

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<v Speaker 4>flashing at the top with the new ducting running out

1:21:18.615 --> 1:21:21.975
<v Speaker 4>through there, or if you just leave them and don't

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<v Speaker 4>do anything, then they just end up sucking out heat.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm kind of pleased that we've we've dealt with

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<v Speaker 4>that issue hopefully. Last week on the show, we ended

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<v Speaker 4>up talking a lot about cleaning toilets. I did get

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<v Speaker 4>a Texas Morning from someone who used a bag of

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<v Speaker 4>salt this was one of the discussion points from last

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<v Speaker 4>week on the show, and said it worked to treat.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually went out and bought a bag of salt,

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<v Speaker 4>but didn't actually get round of to do it. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's a reminder. Someone's my comment. Someone's just texted and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>look I used the tool a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the first sections asked, it's an apartment. I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with you. It does ask if it's an apartment,

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<v Speaker 4>but it still doesn't give you a real world result

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<v Speaker 4>is my comic. So yeah, I'm aware that it does,

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<v Speaker 4>and it factors it in. I just don't think it

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<v Speaker 4>weights it enough. And now I've got proof, right he Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're back after new Sport and weather top of the

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<v Speaker 4>rat eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're painting with stealing, fixing with fens, or wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter

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<v Speaker 1>wolf Gabbi call on eighty the resident builder on Youth

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<v Speaker 4>Your news Talk said, be welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 11>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me say six minutes almost seven minutes after eight

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<v Speaker 4>wheel talk all things building constructions through at eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>At eight thirty, the Red Climb Pass will be with

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<v Speaker 4>us and will jump into the garden. So any of

1:22:59.215 --> 1:23:02.655
<v Speaker 4>your gardening or entomological questions you can address them to

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<v Speaker 4>Red from eight thirty this morning. But right now we'll

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<v Speaker 4>continue you talking building construction. And I've got a flood

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<v Speaker 4>of texts which is awesome about my comments about the

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<v Speaker 4>heating requirements for healthy homes as applied to apartments in particular,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you use the Online Tool, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>tool that we're all encouraged to use by Tendency Services. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's nuanced enough to give you a

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<v Speaker 4>realistic view. And I've had a number of people text

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<v Speaker 4>in saying, you know that they've used it and they've

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<v Speaker 4>ended up with similar results where they're getting really high requirements,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, three four killer watts of heating for an apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you go, Well, you can do what my

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<v Speaker 4>clients ended up doing, partly on my recommendation and finding

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<v Speaker 4>basically a building survey or a building scientist who can

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<v Speaker 4>undertake a proper basically energy modeling of the space to

1:24:07.575 --> 1:24:12.055
<v Speaker 4>determine what heating requirement you need to achieve the objective,

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<v Speaker 4>and the objective is to make sure that the building

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<v Speaker 4>can be twenty degrees on the coldest day of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>So how you achieve that you have to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to prove it. Typically we go to the tool online

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<v Speaker 4>tool to prove it. I think the online tool, even

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<v Speaker 4>though you can select apartments, is still not nuanced enough

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<v Speaker 4>to give you a real figure that's a realistic figure.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is going to be a bit of a challenge. George,

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<v Speaker 4>A very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, George, we've got a reasonably modern house with a

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<v Speaker 18>corrugated iron roof which is pitched, and we have a

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<v Speaker 18>range hood which leaks water down through the center of it,

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<v Speaker 18>which is going over the motor. It drips onto the stovetop,

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<v Speaker 18>and we've had a plumberh instored it out and he

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<v Speaker 18>thought it might have been to do with a flashing,

1:25:05.695 --> 1:25:08.815
<v Speaker 18>and he with that, but no nothing there. So I

1:25:08.895 --> 1:25:12.855
<v Speaker 18>suggested to him, because it was about or maybe a

1:25:12.935 --> 1:25:17.055
<v Speaker 18>foot above the roof, that maybe rain was splashing up

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<v Speaker 18>into the mushroom dome and coming down. So he raised

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<v Speaker 18>it up probably another half meter, pretty high up the roof.

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<v Speaker 18>But we've still got water coming down through the chimney part.

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<v Speaker 18>So yesterday I went up into the ceiling and just

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<v Speaker 18>to see whether in fact it could have been the flashing.

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<v Speaker 18>But there's no water at all around the outside of

1:25:40.015 --> 1:25:44.615
<v Speaker 18>that chimney part. So could it be Capello reaction pets

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<v Speaker 18>that's taking the water back up under the mushroom part

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<v Speaker 18>and coming down.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think that what you're getting is condensation, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not a leak, it's condensation.

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<v Speaker 18>Really, there's quite a bit of water comes down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you know. So essentially what you're getting is

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<v Speaker 4>the water is inside the ducting, right, and you're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>it at the range hood.

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<v Speaker 18>Correct there, stripping onto the those top.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you go up into the roof space and

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<v Speaker 4>you look around the exterior of the ducting and the

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<v Speaker 4>flashing and you don't see any moisture, then you go, Okay,

1:26:27.415 --> 1:26:30.815
<v Speaker 4>the water is getting in into the ducting somewhere. So

1:26:30.855 --> 1:26:33.495
<v Speaker 4>you go onto the roof. The plumber has extended that

1:26:33.615 --> 1:26:37.335
<v Speaker 4>ducting up and then they've they've got a mushroom on

1:26:37.375 --> 1:26:40.135
<v Speaker 4>top of it. And you know, water, water can do

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<v Speaker 4>interesting things. But and yes, I've seen it drive upwards,

1:26:43.615 --> 1:26:46.655
<v Speaker 4>but it typically has to have something that it's on

1:26:46.895 --> 1:26:48.855
<v Speaker 4>in order for it to be driven up. So I

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<v Speaker 4>know what those mushrooms look like. I think it'd be

1:26:51.655 --> 1:26:55.095
<v Speaker 4>really unlikely that that wind driven rain is going to

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<v Speaker 4>go nip underneath the mushroom up over the lip and inside,

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<v Speaker 4>and potentially by extending the length of that uninsulated ducting

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<v Speaker 4>through the roof, you're actually creating more condensation.

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<v Speaker 18>Really, that's quite interesting. Yes, it doesn't need to have

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<v Speaker 18>any wind. In fact, it doesn't even have to rain hard.

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<v Speaker 18>But in saying that, when it's cold. We're in central Target,

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<v Speaker 18>and I mean in the winter it's cold, we can

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<v Speaker 18>be really cold, but we don't get any condensation even

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<v Speaker 18>when we've got cold fog. I would have.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagined anywhere else in the house.

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<v Speaker 18>I no, no, I've got a really dry house. But

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<v Speaker 18>what I'm suggesting to you is if it was condensation,

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<v Speaker 18>then when it's cold and foggy outside, why are we

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<v Speaker 18>not getting condensation dripping out?

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<v Speaker 4>Then it really well, condensation occurs when you've got the

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<v Speaker 4>right combination of features, right, So you've got moisture laid

1:27:57.375 --> 1:28:02.775
<v Speaker 4>in the air that attaches to a cold surface. So

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<v Speaker 4>when it's if it's cold outside, you've got an uninsulated

1:28:06.375 --> 1:28:10.815
<v Speaker 4>metal tube, right, and then you've got moisture inside your house,

1:28:10.855 --> 1:28:13.775
<v Speaker 4>which is your house always will have a certain amount

1:28:13.775 --> 1:28:18.335
<v Speaker 4>of moisture that's then being effectively drawn to the rain

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<v Speaker 4>hood because it's open, right, so it's extracting. Even when

1:28:21.495 --> 1:28:24.175
<v Speaker 4>it's turned off, it's still open, right, so air is

1:28:24.215 --> 1:28:28.215
<v Speaker 4>still flowing there. I'm wondering whether it's the the air

1:28:28.295 --> 1:28:31.615
<v Speaker 4>that's inside your house that's going up the ducting And

1:28:31.655 --> 1:28:35.215
<v Speaker 4>because like most of us, for our range hoods, it'd

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<v Speaker 4>be in a kitchen unit. It would go up and

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<v Speaker 4>it would go straight through the wall, or would go

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<v Speaker 4>up and it would go across in some flexible ducting

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<v Speaker 4>through the back of the units and out through the wall.

1:28:43.975 --> 1:28:46.295
<v Speaker 4>But because yours goes through the roof, you've got this

1:28:46.455 --> 1:28:49.575
<v Speaker 4>metal tube that extends up and of course at the

1:28:49.575 --> 1:28:51.775
<v Speaker 4>top it's going to be cold on the outside with

1:28:51.895 --> 1:28:54.975
<v Speaker 4>moisture on the inside. That air is going up, and

1:28:55.055 --> 1:28:58.375
<v Speaker 4>that moisture is then hitting the side of the tube,

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<v Speaker 4>turning into conensate and dripping back down again. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I think is is that's what I think is most

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<v Speaker 4>likely to happen if there's no other leak and you

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<v Speaker 4>have me able to find a leak.

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<v Speaker 18>No, Yeah, why would it not be a common problem

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<v Speaker 18>in Pete?

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<v Speaker 4>To be fear not that many range hoods ducked through

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<v Speaker 4>the roof. Most range shoulds tend to duck through the walls.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've got some ducting for a laundry that

1:29:24.935 --> 1:29:28.095
<v Speaker 4>goes vertically, but it's a much shorter run and so

1:29:28.335 --> 1:29:30.455
<v Speaker 4>I haven't to be fair, I haven't been into check

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<v Speaker 4>whether there might be some condensation in there, but it

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<v Speaker 4>would be interesting to you know, if there's someone like

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<v Speaker 4>an eco advisor in your area kind it would be

1:29:38.935 --> 1:29:40.655
<v Speaker 4>quite interesting to see if they would give you a

1:29:40.655 --> 1:29:44.015
<v Speaker 4>bit of advice on that. But I would investigate the

1:29:44.095 --> 1:29:46.615
<v Speaker 4>condensation if there's no obvious leak.

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<v Speaker 18>Right, okay, thank you for that. My pleasure with trains

1:29:51.535 --> 1:29:53.415
<v Speaker 18>for the heat traits, for the assistant that people have

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<v Speaker 18>talked about it. We've got one in our house. As

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<v Speaker 18>there is we knew how so, I said, and as

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<v Speaker 18>by a wood burner in the ceiling which are an

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<v Speaker 18>open sort of an event thing, and in our three

1:30:05.015 --> 1:30:06.655
<v Speaker 18>bedrooms we have a.

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<v Speaker 17>An outlet and grew up to.

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<v Speaker 18>Stop the coming out. Well, when we first moved in here,

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<v Speaker 18>it was the most useless thing you can imagine. Turned

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<v Speaker 18>on the power and nothing happened. So I actually got

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<v Speaker 18>up into the ceiling then and found that where the

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<v Speaker 18>motor was and the conducting the tube had come off heat.

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<v Speaker 18>It wasn't fast numbery well, it was really just taken

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<v Speaker 18>on a couple of years later, we don't use it

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<v Speaker 18>because we don't want the vedoms to be too hot.

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<v Speaker 18>But a couple of years later, when I was up

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<v Speaker 18>yesterday having a look at this other range or thing,

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<v Speaker 18>I had a look again and where the joint is

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<v Speaker 18>where it goes to the three bedrooms, another plastic unit there.

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<v Speaker 18>It just distributes it. It had come off, so it

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<v Speaker 18>seems that, you know, if people do find it not

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<v Speaker 18>re effected, it wouldn't be bad idea to have a

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<v Speaker 18>look up in the ceilings are still attached to what that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely Hey, good on you for getting up there and

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<v Speaker 4>being really thorough with looking after your house. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>great idea, George, thank you very much. I might do

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of reading, in a bit of research about

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<v Speaker 4>it and see whether it is actually likely to be

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<v Speaker 4>the condensation your news talk zeb remember root climb passed

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<v Speaker 4>from Make thirty. It is eight fifteen news talk zebby

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<v Speaker 4>Today I'm talking with Murray Knight, Managing directors thinking Holymer's International,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're talking about in Juris. Good morning, Murray, tell

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<v Speaker 4>us what is in Juris?

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<v Speaker 17>Good morning, Peak Well in Juris is one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 17>and seamless membrane, stopping leaks and helps extend the life

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<v Speaker 17>of a roof. It has been used extensively for fifty

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<v Speaker 17>years and other markets, and we have been promoting the

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<v Speaker 4>So Murray, tell us what the key benefits are.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, our view is why replacement you can restore and

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<v Speaker 17>and permanently flexible. It is u be stable and maintained

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<v Speaker 17>its elasticity for decades following the correct surface preparation. Injuris

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<v Speaker 17>use it straight from the pail, no mixing required, and

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<v Speaker 17>that we have here in Auckland. If you have a

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<v Speaker 17>if you're looking for a call roof as it meets

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<v Speaker 4>That's some really helpful information. Now, if people want to

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<v Speaker 4>And Marie, thanks for dropping a bucket out to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I've put it on. It's a small roof. I need

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<v Speaker 4>to extend its life for a bit and so far

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<v Speaker 4>no leaks really appreciate it. Thanks for your time, Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

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<v Speaker 1>on Newstalks.

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<v Speaker 4>NB your News TALKSB we're talking all things building construction.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of useful suggestions for our previous caller, George

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<v Speaker 4>with the leak that might be coming from the ducting

1:34:26.935 --> 1:34:29.335
<v Speaker 4>that extends from the range hood through the roof, which

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, it's a it's not uncommon, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>also not terribly common. So a couple of people have said,

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<v Speaker 4>where are they about the seam orientation of the seam

1:34:44.455 --> 1:34:47.095
<v Speaker 4>on the duck. The rivets aren't waterproof. Physics works the

1:34:47.175 --> 1:34:50.015
<v Speaker 4>same way, so there you go. It might look it

1:34:50.095 --> 1:34:52.295
<v Speaker 4>might be an issue with the duck. Nine times out

1:34:52.295 --> 1:34:55.215
<v Speaker 4>of ten, it's usually the seam of the flu that's

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<v Speaker 4>not sealed from the range hood from JK and Dargavill

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<v Speaker 4>And actually a number of calls have said it's about

1:35:04.055 --> 1:35:07.335
<v Speaker 4>the seam of the ducting. So I have a look

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<v Speaker 4>at that, George, next time you're on the roof safely

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<v Speaker 4>Colin Greetings.

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<v Speaker 19>Good morning, Hey, hey, just to ask your advice on

1:35:17.935 --> 1:35:21.415
<v Speaker 19>getting double blazing in. I've got a cup of quotes

1:35:21.455 --> 1:35:24.495
<v Speaker 19>come through next week for retro fit on an order

1:35:24.495 --> 1:35:28.095
<v Speaker 19>house which is at nineteen eighty six, and I'm just

1:35:28.175 --> 1:35:30.615
<v Speaker 19>not sure what I'm doing the right thing. I'm very

1:35:30.615 --> 1:35:32.655
<v Speaker 19>cold to you in the winter and very hot in

1:35:32.695 --> 1:35:35.775
<v Speaker 19>the summer, and it's a native frame cout so it

1:35:35.855 --> 1:35:38.655
<v Speaker 19>hasn't got anything that I can put that. Are they

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<v Speaker 19>still the heating through? I have two heat pumps, but

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<v Speaker 19>it's not working as well as I would like it too.

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<v Speaker 19>So I'm just wondering your ideas on retrofit double glazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, look, I could declare an interest. For the

1:35:52.375 --> 1:35:55.135
<v Speaker 4>last ten years I've acted as a brand ambassador for

1:35:55.255 --> 1:35:59.255
<v Speaker 4>Metro Performance Glass, who do the retro double glazing, and

1:35:59.495 --> 1:36:03.415
<v Speaker 4>I do so because I know that double glazing is

1:36:03.415 --> 1:36:05.615
<v Speaker 4>a really good thing. Right, So the numbers don't like

1:36:06.575 --> 1:36:09.655
<v Speaker 4>single glazing units let out x amount of energy and

1:36:09.735 --> 1:36:14.215
<v Speaker 4>double glozing units end up letting out a considerable amount

1:36:14.335 --> 1:36:17.695
<v Speaker 4>less than that, so they do perform the sciences there,

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<v Speaker 4>So is double glazing good solution? Yes, And in a

1:36:22.015 --> 1:36:25.135
<v Speaker 4>house like yours where perhaps you know, if it's an

1:36:25.135 --> 1:36:26.615
<v Speaker 4>a frame, then you've got large.

1:36:26.375 --> 1:36:30.455
<v Speaker 19>Amounts of Yeah. And Neil built home many many many

1:36:30.495 --> 1:36:33.655
<v Speaker 19>years ago, and the a frame that is the curse,

1:36:33.735 --> 1:36:34.695
<v Speaker 19>to be honest.

1:36:34.455 --> 1:36:39.735
<v Speaker 4>But they're a challenging I know, but so yes, and look,

1:36:39.815 --> 1:36:41.855
<v Speaker 4>ideally you want to look at other things as well.

1:36:41.935 --> 1:36:44.735
<v Speaker 4>Can you add some insulation and have you got reasonable

1:36:44.735 --> 1:36:47.615
<v Speaker 4>insulation in the walls and the ceilings and the under floor.

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<v Speaker 19>If you can put their phone about eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 19>It seems to work sort of too, about a couple

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<v Speaker 19>of great degrees.

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<v Speaker 10>But note of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, you know all of the stuff that I've

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<v Speaker 4>read over a number of years now double glazing works, So.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks so much as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, good on, good on, you take care of

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<v Speaker 4>calling all the best and Graham, Hello there, how are you?

1:37:19.815 --> 1:37:20.015
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 22>Thanks Pete. Look what I'm sort of trying to get

1:37:24.975 --> 1:37:28.815
<v Speaker 22>to the bottom of and hopefully you can help me here.

1:37:32.055 --> 1:37:35.455
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, I think you're Siri or your AI has

1:37:35.495 --> 1:37:43.735
<v Speaker 4>listened to your conversation and once he wants to get involved. Anyway,

1:37:43.895 --> 1:37:47.895
<v Speaker 4>I'm not AI. I might not even be that intelligent,

1:37:47.975 --> 1:37:52.495
<v Speaker 4>but hey, let's let's have a crackit. What's Christian?

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<v Speaker 22>Look, the problem is about eight years ago I had

1:37:58.095 --> 1:38:02.775
<v Speaker 22>nanoclear put on around my blue denim alumen and framing

1:38:02.935 --> 1:38:08.375
<v Speaker 22>for the windows indoors. Now, what's happened with this stuff?

1:38:09.215 --> 1:38:14.175
<v Speaker 22>It's flaked and it's like it's sort of become very scaly.

1:38:15.055 --> 1:38:18.215
<v Speaker 22>It's got sunburn given to it or something. I don't know,

1:38:19.415 --> 1:38:26.535
<v Speaker 22>but with the way these the window frames are, it's

1:38:26.615 --> 1:38:29.215
<v Speaker 22>looking to the stage of I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 22>treat treat it, to try and get it, get the

1:38:32.175 --> 1:38:35.575
<v Speaker 22>scaly stuff off, to repaint it. It's all very well,

1:38:35.615 --> 1:38:38.295
<v Speaker 22>sort of just throwing a bit of sandpaper over it. Look,

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<v Speaker 22>it's just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Graham. What I would suggest is I actually know the

1:38:43.135 --> 1:38:46.095
<v Speaker 4>guys or some of the people involved, So go back

1:38:46.135 --> 1:38:49.255
<v Speaker 4>to them, right, go directly back to them, ask them

1:38:49.255 --> 1:38:51.975
<v Speaker 4>to come out and have a look. If it's a problem,

1:38:52.015 --> 1:38:55.015
<v Speaker 4>they'll fix it and just go from there. So just

1:38:55.055 --> 1:38:58.255
<v Speaker 4>go straight back in touch with then OA clear, All right,

1:38:58.815 --> 1:39:03.415
<v Speaker 4>all this one, Take care, Bob then and Carl, greetings.

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<v Speaker 23>Good morning. Thanks for tipping me in there. Yeah, just

1:39:07.295 --> 1:39:11.055
<v Speaker 23>about these healthy homes heating standards, I've done exactly the

1:39:11.095 --> 1:39:13.935
<v Speaker 23>same as you have. I've set there for days, poking.

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<v Speaker 4>Numbers in for what type of building.

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<v Speaker 23>Residential mainly units twenty five twenty seven square meters, and

1:39:25.295 --> 1:39:31.095
<v Speaker 23>it all comes out to a heat pump a regulation standard.

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<v Speaker 4>Is in more than two point four kilotts of heating requires.

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<v Speaker 23>You're going from a room that needed twenty four killer

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<v Speaker 23>watts twenty four hundred watts to heat it keep it

1:39:42.615 --> 1:39:46.015
<v Speaker 23>to that eighteen degrees standard. You go from that to

1:39:46.335 --> 1:39:50.775
<v Speaker 23>a six kilo heat pump under the recommendations of their

1:39:50.775 --> 1:39:56.855
<v Speaker 23>heating standard, which is absolutely crazy. And that's just for

1:39:56.975 --> 1:40:04.735
<v Speaker 23>a standard to bedroom unit unit in town. And the

1:40:04.815 --> 1:40:07.735
<v Speaker 23>main point you're missed is the the calculations that is

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<v Speaker 23>all grigged up to have heat pumps in every room

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<v Speaker 23>in the house and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not required because the healthy Home standards for heating is

1:40:18.335 --> 1:40:21.295
<v Speaker 4>simply that you need it. But the requirement is that

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<v Speaker 4>you can achieve is eighteen or twenty degrees twenty degrees

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<v Speaker 4>in living space. Yeah, twenty degrees on the coldest on

1:40:30.975 --> 1:40:32.975
<v Speaker 4>what they assume is the coldest day of the year,

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<v Speaker 4>depending on your climatic zone.

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<v Speaker 12>Right, the gug glader's rigged out to.

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<v Speaker 23>Recommend a heat pump be put in.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to leak to that conclusion. If you

1:40:50.695 --> 1:40:53.215
<v Speaker 4>want to go there, you can. All I'm saying is

1:40:53.255 --> 1:40:58.255
<v Speaker 4>that in this particular instance, right, So this very specific

1:40:58.295 --> 1:41:01.335
<v Speaker 4>building that I've been involved with quite a bit over

1:41:01.335 --> 1:41:04.455
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of months, I went, I visited it,

1:41:04.575 --> 1:41:08.735
<v Speaker 4>I measured it, I used I looked at the Healthy

1:41:08.735 --> 1:41:11.495
<v Speaker 4>Homes assessments that have been done by two other people,

1:41:11.695 --> 1:41:14.175
<v Speaker 4>both of whom were not known to each other, So

1:41:14.335 --> 1:41:18.415
<v Speaker 4>two independent assessments producing two different results. Both of those

1:41:18.495 --> 1:41:21.455
<v Speaker 4>results it was either like three point six and four

1:41:21.495 --> 1:41:26.855
<v Speaker 4>point four heating requirement. And then I use the tool,

1:41:26.935 --> 1:41:29.535
<v Speaker 4>but I fudged the numbers. I'll be quite honest about that,

1:41:29.935 --> 1:41:32.735
<v Speaker 4>because if you're talking about a floor in an apartment,

1:41:32.815 --> 1:41:35.175
<v Speaker 4>it's not like a floor in a standard building, where

1:41:35.215 --> 1:41:38.735
<v Speaker 4>it might be an unconditioned space below right. It's even

1:41:38.775 --> 1:41:41.455
<v Speaker 4>if it was uninhabited, it's still going to perform differently

1:41:41.535 --> 1:41:44.655
<v Speaker 4>to an open space. So I kind of fudge them,

1:41:44.775 --> 1:41:47.295
<v Speaker 4>and I got a number of a heating requirement what

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<v Speaker 4>I felt intuitively based on my own experience, and that

1:41:52.015 --> 1:41:54.535
<v Speaker 4>it would probably be somewhere around one to one point two.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's roughly the number that I got. That confirmed

1:41:58.015 --> 1:42:01.495
<v Speaker 4>my suspicion that the tool is not nuanced enough to

1:42:01.575 --> 1:42:05.775
<v Speaker 4>deal with apartments. So we then sent it to an

1:42:06.415 --> 1:42:12.495
<v Speaker 4>end and qualified heating assessment basically heating scientist right for

1:42:12.535 --> 1:42:15.255
<v Speaker 4>one of a better term, who did energy modeling of

1:42:15.375 --> 1:42:18.015
<v Speaker 4>the building and came back with a figure, and that

1:42:18.055 --> 1:42:23.335
<v Speaker 4>figure was zero point five seven killer watts of heating required.

1:42:24.055 --> 1:42:25.975
<v Speaker 4>So what's going to be really interesting is that, I

1:42:26.015 --> 1:42:29.015
<v Speaker 4>guess for the property owner they can take that report

1:42:29.135 --> 1:42:33.135
<v Speaker 4>because you know, I mean, you'd have to have a

1:42:33.135 --> 1:42:35.615
<v Speaker 4>similar level of qualification to the person who wrote the

1:42:35.655 --> 1:42:38.655
<v Speaker 4>report in order to dispute the findings, right, And I

1:42:38.655 --> 1:42:42.415
<v Speaker 4>don't think most people involved in healthy Homes assessments have

1:42:42.495 --> 1:42:46.415
<v Speaker 4>that level of qualification, in which case there's some there's

1:42:46.775 --> 1:42:51.775
<v Speaker 4>credentials qualification and a result that would indicate zero point

1:42:51.855 --> 1:42:54.975
<v Speaker 4>five seven killer watts of heating is sufficient, and then

1:42:55.015 --> 1:42:58.095
<v Speaker 4>you attach that to the healthy Homes report and say

1:42:58.095 --> 1:43:00.535
<v Speaker 4>this is the figure that I'm using, and I'm going

1:43:00.575 --> 1:43:02.615
<v Speaker 4>to stand by that, and if you want to challenge it,

1:43:02.695 --> 1:43:06.895
<v Speaker 4>go and get your own building scientists to do a modeling.

1:43:07.095 --> 1:43:11.015
<v Speaker 4>So but you know, like I'm letting, it's the it's

1:43:11.055 --> 1:43:14.335
<v Speaker 4>the professionals, right who are doing this now, and that's

1:43:14.375 --> 1:43:16.815
<v Speaker 4>the result. And I think that's really really interesting, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to raise a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 4>around how we do the heating calculations for apartments in particular,

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<v Speaker 4>because again, and I hesitate to say this, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think the existing online tool is nuanced enough to give

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<v Speaker 4>an accurate reading, is my opinion? Really appreciate you, Cal,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we might talk about this again next week

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<v Speaker 4>on the show, because right now I'm actually looking at

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<v Speaker 4>my ol box designs from Wingspan. So let's get into

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<v Speaker 4>the garden. Redclinb past on the way.

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