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Speaker 2: Hello, you got new seiders, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number two fifty eight for Friday,

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Speaker 2: the fifth of December twenty twenty five. Heated back and

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Speaker 2: forth on the life jacket question, whether they should be

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Speaker 2: mandated for everyone on all recreational vehicles up and down

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Speaker 2: the country from some fantastic skippers who said, nay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: leave it up to us that No, we're doing out

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Speaker 2: the waters. And then we heard harrowing stories of the

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Speaker 2: horrors that can happen at sea. So yeah, you come

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Speaker 2: out of that and you can make up your own mind.

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Speaker 3: Then a little bit of chat about Santa's Little Helper

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Speaker 3: as well from the Simpsons.

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Speaker 4: Love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dish lickers love the dishlic Dishlickers are great pets.

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Speaker 2: They are Yeah, lazy, fast, Yeah, thet'll sleep all day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, okay, then.

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Speaker 3: Download, subscribe, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody you seem busy. Will you go give the days?

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Speaker 2: Keep you from us? All right?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 4: Love you big.

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Speaker 1: Stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything in

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Speaker 1: between Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: The very good afternoon, do you welcome into Friday show?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for giving us a listen. As always,

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Speaker 3: we love you our dear audience, and we appreciate it

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Speaker 3: and hope you're having a great day. How you doing, Matt,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing very good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. All your great new Zellas are

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Speaker 2: tuning into Matt and Tyler Afternoons on News Talk. Z'd

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Speaker 2: be for a.

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Speaker 3: Friday Yeah, now, mate, Just before you ender the show,

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Speaker 3: I got to say I had a great night last

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Speaker 3: night that you said to me. He says, Hey, do

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Speaker 3: you want to come out, Not to a weeknight, a

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Speaker 3: school night, but you want to come out, have a

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Speaker 3: Morningside and then go to a gig. And I'm like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to go to a gig. So the beers

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Speaker 3: were lovely and your friends were great. We had some

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Speaker 3: good chats there. Then we mosied Old Old, We mosied

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Speaker 3: over to Big Fan in Morningside and we watched a

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Speaker 3: fantastic gig featuring one of your sons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, Big fans fantast stick venue in Morning

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Speaker 2: Side that's been started by Joel Little, who's the very

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Speaker 2: successful New Zealand song writer who wrote Royals and a

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Speaker 2: bunch of other huge hits written for Tyler Swift. Very successful,

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Speaker 2: so decided to give back to the New Zealand music

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Speaker 2: community and young talent and he built this place called

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Speaker 2: Big Fan, which is a beautiful venue and recording studio.

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Speaker 2: It's a non profits situation where bands, young bands can

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Speaker 2: play on a big, beautiful stage with incredible sound in

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Speaker 2: a nice venue, something that most bands when he was

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Speaker 2: that whole Big Fan thing has been great for both

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Speaker 2: Ignite with a help kids that are interested in music.

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Speaker 2: One of them wants to be a band manager, so

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Speaker 2: he's in that program with them, and you know, he

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Speaker 3: An amazing space, and I've got to say for a

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Speaker 3: it was good atmosphere. Yeah, my bartender was loving it.

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Speaker 2: My son that was promoting the gig, he was marching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good operation.

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Speaker 3: But how good mate, I mean your your your boys

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Speaker 3: band Tangerino got to say, young Charlie's got a great voice,

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Speaker 3: And then the group after them, which were called Group Chat.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for coming along.

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Speaker 2: We love it lovely to hang out with you and Maye.

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Speaker 2: When Tangerino's new singles out on Monday, I'll give you

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Speaker 3: Fantastic looking forward to that right onto today's show because

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Speaker 3: it is a Friday, after three o'clock the moment many

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Speaker 2: Who will it be today?

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Speaker 3: Nine nine too, if you've got a nomination, also after

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Speaker 3: Christmas parties are starting to erupt all over the show.

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Speaker 3: In fact, there was one just over the road last night.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who you don't want to be at

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you can get there pacing down pat Look,

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Speaker 3: So true, looking forward to that after three o'clock. After

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Speaker 3: you can imagine water safety right behind this. They've been

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Speaker 2: So is there still a stigma about life jackets? Do

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Speaker 3: rentals and landlords. So rental prices have fallen to their

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Speaker 2: Thanks textra nine two nine two. Yes, the word I

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Speaker 2: if you negotiate with me as a potential tenant, I say,

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Speaker 2: a tenant better off getting paid a lower rent than

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Speaker 2: getting no rent. Typical greedy landlord. It's all about money.

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Speaker 2: Shots fired landlord here. It was mentioned on your program,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to keep a professional, well paid tenant

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Speaker 2: in your property. Professional people and good jobs don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: make good tenants. In fact, it has been opposite experience

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Speaker 2: of such for me, lazy, dirty and costly. If someone

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Speaker 2: tried to bargain the rent, they could find another property

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Speaker 3: Right, keep those teas coming through a nine to two

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Speaker 3: nine two. But that's some passion right there. If you

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Speaker 3: down a little bit, I want to renegotiate. Are you

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Speaker 3: thinking in your backy head? Nah, I'll just get somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Just for people out there that are listening that ever

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Speaker 3: You've let it slip there.

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Speaker 3: It is seventeen past one, oh one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: It'd be news talks. They'd be very good. Afternoon t

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Speaker 3: you twenty past one. So we're talking about negotiating your

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Speaker 2: To all those people that are believing that current narrative

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Speaker 2: I always think about this. When I first moved to Auckland, right,

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Speaker 2: willing to buy houses and rent them out to people. Exactly,

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Speaker 3: And as I said to you, I'm technically a landlord

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Speaker 2: When you ever hear a politician or just a person

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Speaker 3: Boo, yeah, exactly, Yeah, shame on you people.

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Speaker 2: What are your real motives for saying that?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Ask Peter your thoughts on on landlords and negotiation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, fair as well, compliments of the season, I suppose

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's December. Yeah, yeah, compliments of the season as well, Peter,

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Speaker 7: Well on one of the other tip, because there's just

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Speaker 3: Very good, good enough.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but getting on the rent, I don't only proper

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Speaker 7: Hanging out for twenty bucks is only a grand a year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean apart from this one texture that

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Speaker 2: landlord is not going to be offended by you saying, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've just been looking around at the market

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Speaker 2: I suggest this amount?

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Speaker 2: I mean that landlord's say use or no.

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Speaker 7: I mean a solid landlord will sort of know that

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Speaker 7: mean if if he's outer another twenty but Council of Health,

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Speaker 7: it's showing a pretty dumb landlord.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, if you don't have a tenants in there

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Speaker 2: A landold, I don't negotiate it, no matter what, even

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Speaker 7: And with interest rates going up or down, it doesn't

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Speaker 7: Rents can't say borgage rates of seven percent the rent

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Speaker 7: that can't afford to pay the extra for the landlord

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Speaker 7: which is which will be a bridge too far because

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, you get you get into these things.

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Speaker 7: It should be eyes wide open. You know it's going

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Speaker 7: to be ups and downs. But you're only in there

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Speaker 7: for the capital gain. Really, the rent. The rent is

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Speaker 7: just to help pay the mortgage. You want the capital gain.

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Speaker 7: That's where you get the money from at the end

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of truth in that, Peter. So you've

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Speaker 7: A couple of little warehousing type and it's commercial.

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Speaker 3: Would yeah, commercial is slightly different. But would you ever

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not. Maybe commercial is very similar. Would you

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Speaker 3: I think the market, you know, what your paying might

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to reduce the rent or even you know,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I do, I do that. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if someone leaves, I'll just have to go by what

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Speaker 7: the market says. I'm not interesting in getting the hot

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Speaker 7: I'd rather just have it but lower and pretty well full. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, couldn't. You don't have to worry about Christmas

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Speaker 7: presents for commercial.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, fair enough to.

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Speaker 2: Thank if you call Peter and merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 2: A good tenant if I have one, I give a

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Speaker 3: That is generous.

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Speaker 2: See, that's what good people out there. Tyler's the landlord,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I eight hundred eight, I've got to think about

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Love to hear your thoughts on this and also generally negotiating.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that you've got a neck for or

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Speaker 3: do you find it a bit awkward? Love to hear

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Speaker 1: Start your day.

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Speaker 1: It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 9: So given it's the time of the year, let's welcome

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Speaker 9: back out of the Prime Minister for one last time

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Speaker 9: for the first of season. Christopher Luxanth on the News,

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Speaker 9: I saw you saying I've got a gift swap and

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Speaker 10: Actually really confident in my exchange.

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Speaker 2: Now listen to this. This is why we've given you paper.

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Speaker 10: We sat down, we had dinner on our left.

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Speaker 9: Stop eating dinner on your knee. It's not healthy. So

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Speaker 9: this is unique. It's a one off unlap that.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at this.

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Speaker 10: It was looking good until I took this out. Okay, listener,

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Speaker 10: so what we've got is meal trace. But then Amanda

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Speaker 1: Good by back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with on News togs there'd be.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight past one, Sir christ Biship, the

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Speaker 3: Ministry of Housing sears tenants should be negotiating with their

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Speaker 3: If that you love to hear from you on oh

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Speaker 3: text nine two nine two is that number.

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Speaker 2: I'm a landlord, but I also rent, love renting. I

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Speaker 2: own a decent house and tour Bay, but rent away

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Speaker 2: better place on the water and Herne Bay. I definitely

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Speaker 2: I can rent it. Landlords and rentals are great. Merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas Fellers, Merry Christmas Brees. What capital gain? Boys? House

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Speaker 2: prices are twenty percent down in twenty since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: high prices, So that game. Yeah, I mean, that's the

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Speaker 2: situation for a lot of landlords right now. So they're

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Speaker 3: Insurance has gone up, rates have gone up, but their

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Speaker 2: Guys, it's up to each individual situation. Many landlords rent

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Speaker 2: subjected to market prices pretty much. Is a George? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that the cowardly way to go?

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Speaker 3: It definitely is to not negotiate yourself one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: If a property manager says, I think it's worth this,

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Speaker 3: but you know it's overpriced, then that's up to you

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Speaker 3: to say the property manager.

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Speaker 2: Nah, na na, Nah, you been greedy, Molly. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about being a negotiator in general?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, curled the boys. I've got a couple of

436
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Speaker 11: things here. So I'm a landlord. I'm a millennial gen

437
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Speaker 11: Z landlord. So I'm right on the cart night. And

438
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Speaker 11: so I live with my two tenants, and I have

439
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Speaker 11: a dock, and on that dock it's got the exact

440
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Speaker 11: price of my insurance, the exact price of my rates,

441
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Speaker 11: and the exact price of my mortgage payments. And I'm

442
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Speaker 11: really transparent with them, and we split that evenly between

443
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Speaker 11: the three of us. And when I had to reseax,

444
00:20:04,933 --> 00:20:07,893
Speaker 11: we talked through the options and we stood that together.

445
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Speaker 11: And so they know that, you know, we might have

446
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Speaker 11: to reflex or whatever. It might go up, it could

447
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Speaker 11: go down. But I keep them in the loop with it,

448
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Speaker 11: so they know exactly where their money is going and

449
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Speaker 11: what I'm spending it on and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Some So, Molly, with your situation, are you just trying

451
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Speaker 2: to break even essentially, and you know, ride the capital

452
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Speaker 2: gains if they should come.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So I just I just yeah, I'm real transparent. I'm like,

455
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Speaker 11: I don't think I should be making money off them,

456
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Speaker 11: you know. I mean I bought the house, but most

457
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Speaker 11: of the bank did it for me, you know, I

458
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Speaker 11: just had a little bit put towards it. And also

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Speaker 11: I've actually put them both in my wills because we

460
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Speaker 11: moved in straight after I bought it, and they have

461
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Speaker 11: been paying a third of all of it. So if

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Speaker 11: I was to die randomly, I feel like they deserved something.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. What what if something breaks in the house, Molly,

464
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Speaker 2: is it is it you that's straight there on the

465
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Speaker 2: phone of the plumber and paying for it?

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Speaker 11: Well, we kind of haven't. We've kind of got an

467
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Speaker 11: agreement together because it isn't my name. So if it's

468
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Speaker 11: something like householdy, like I broke we broke the sink

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Speaker 11: that does the sucky up, you know, the sink what

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Speaker 11: are they.

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Speaker 2: Called and sinc oratory.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we broke that, and I puted the bill to

473
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Speaker 11: that because it is my house on paper and that's

474
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Speaker 11: the benefit to my house. But when we had a

475
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Speaker 11: party and the deck broke. We went thirds because it

476
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Speaker 11: was our guests who broke, right.

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Speaker 2: What about things like you know you're in the house

478
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Speaker 2: and yeah, I know one of your one of your

479
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Speaker 2: housemates is going away. I'm just imagining a situation here,

480
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Speaker 2: so beer with me. It might be a weird one.

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Speaker 2: Just the first thing that came into my head. They're

482
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Speaker 2: pulling a suitcase down the hallway. It's grinding along the walls.

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Speaker 2: You know, would would you have a word?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd have a word.

485
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Speaker 11: I had one of my flatmates put hooks in the

486
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Speaker 11: wall but then got the wrong fit and then like

487
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Speaker 11: just smashed a whole bit of like plaster out of

488
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Speaker 11: the wall. And I was like, well, that's on you

489
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Speaker 11: before you move out, and he was like, yep, yep,

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Speaker 11: no that's fair. Put a poster over it for now

491
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Speaker 11: because I don't care. Six right now's in his room,

492
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Speaker 11: but before he moves out.

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Speaker 2: And what if one of your flatmates, what do you

494
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Speaker 2: call them renters the landlord?

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Speaker 11: They they call me that as a as a slur.

496
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Speaker 2: What if they came to you and said, Molly, I

497
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Speaker 2: am bloody skin, I've lost my job and I can't

498
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Speaker 2: pay the rent. Could you could you give me a

499
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Speaker 2: substantial discount so I can keep going and stay here.

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Speaker 11: Well, I then check my savings and go, I'm probably

501
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Speaker 11: just as skinned as you, so should we both call

502
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Speaker 11: your mum or your dad.

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Speaker 3: You're a great landlord slash flatmate, Molly.

504
00:22:48,813 --> 00:22:49,493
Speaker 2: Great strategy.

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Speaker 11: And my other thing about bargaining is I got the

506
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Speaker 11: best advice in my life and I live by this

507
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Speaker 11: advice every day. So as I said, I don't like

508
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Speaker 11: phone calls and I don't like confrontations. So I've lived

509
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Speaker 11: my life never ever but bantering or bargaining for anything.

510
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Speaker 11: And one of our family friends said to me, he

511
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Speaker 11: was American, to go do it in the voice, he said, Molly,

512
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Speaker 11: you get half of what you ask for and none

513
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Speaker 11: of what you don't. And that was that for them,

514
00:23:16,373 --> 00:23:19,973
Speaker 11: and I was like, holy moly, that's so true. The

515
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Speaker 11: worst thing that could ever happen if someone says no

516
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Speaker 11: to me, and that's not a big deal. But the

517
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Speaker 11: best thing that could happen is I get my outcome. Yeah,

518
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Speaker 11: all the listeners out there, you get half of what

519
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Speaker 11: you ask for and none.

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Speaker 2: Of what you've done, they might as well, that's pretty

521
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Speaker 2: that's good advice, Molly. What about this sort of I

522
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Speaker 2: guess for the want of a better term, with the

523
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Speaker 2: passive aggressive way to go around it. You talk to

524
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Speaker 2: your talking to a potential landlord, and you go, is

525
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Speaker 2: this the best you can do? You know, price wise?

526
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Speaker 2: Is this the best you can do? Because you're not

527
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Speaker 2: really getting half of that. You're just sort of floating

528
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Speaker 2: the idea that maybe they want to offer up a

529
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Speaker 2: little less.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. But then they'll either go, yes, it is the

531
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Speaker 11: best sorry, and you go all right, didn't get my way,

532
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Speaker 11: or they'll go, actually, thanks for bringing that to me.

533
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Speaker 11: I'll ponder, and then you're still, you know, good a

534
00:24:02,853 --> 00:24:03,573
Speaker 11: little limb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe you should be a little bit more

536
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Speaker 2: forceful Molly and go I don't think this.

537
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Speaker 11: Is your rates and your insurance.

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Speaker 3: Meet me halfway here, you know, come on, I think

539
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Speaker 3: you do a little bit lower discount for cash.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think this is the best. That would

541
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Speaker 2: that would come across really condescending and probably get their

542
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Speaker 2: back up. And you said, I don't think this is

543
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Speaker 2: the best you can do, but yeah.

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Speaker 11: I guess you've got to ask.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess do your research, right, So you talk

546
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Speaker 2: about how you you know you have all those details

547
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Speaker 2: with your the people that live with you, so they

548
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Speaker 2: know exactly what's going on. I guess if you're going

549
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Speaker 2: into a negotiation, it's handy to have the information on

550
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Speaker 2: hand to know what a good market rent is. What

551
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Speaker 2: do you what do you say to?

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Speaker 11: Sorry? Trying to make a profit Like that is the

553
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Speaker 11: whole point of them owning the house. They are genuinely

554
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Speaker 11: trying to make a profit, whereas my job is to

555
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Speaker 11: house people I love so we can live. Paint the

556
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Speaker 11: walls if.

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Speaker 8: We want to do.

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Speaker 2: What do you say to the text to here that says,

559
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Speaker 2: oh dear, oh dear, poor Molly taking all the risk

560
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Speaker 2: and giving the tenants all the benefit.

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Speaker 11: It's Dave, Well, what's what's rescue? My tenants love me.

562
00:25:14,053 --> 00:25:17,573
Speaker 11: We're having a great time. We haven't a really communal house. Yeah,

563
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Speaker 11: you know, maybe I'll call back one day if they

564
00:25:19,813 --> 00:25:21,253
Speaker 11: ever betray me and it all goes.

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Speaker 5: Probly roight.

566
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Speaker 14: Me.

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Speaker 2: You're great, please do would love to hear from you again, Molly,

568
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the call.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

570
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Speaker 3: number to call if you're a negotiator. Love to hear

571
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Speaker 3: from you. If you are one of those people that

572
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Speaker 3: heckl on everything. But also when it comes to rental,

573
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Speaker 3: have you ever gone to your landlord and say I

574
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Speaker 3: think you need to reduce the rent? And as it works?

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Speaker 2: Interesting as this TEXTA points out that Molly said that

576
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Speaker 2: you know her generation doesn't like phone calls, and yet

577
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Speaker 2: how confident and good was she on the phone to

578
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen eighty superb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish she was my landlord. It there is

580
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Speaker 3: twenty four to two.

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Speaker 1: Jus talk said.

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Speaker 15: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

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Speaker 15: a blue bubble Questions over why the government's rejected Climate

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Speaker 15: Change Commission recommendations on a mission's reduction when non industries

585
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Speaker 15: involved lobbied for exclusion. The coalition has announced it won't

586
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Speaker 15: include international aviation and shipping emissions in our twenty fifty target.

587
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Speaker 15: two vehicle crash on State Highway to north of Danivig

589
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Speaker 15: at Matamo. The roads likely to stay closed for much

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for a lean So Chris Bishop,

601
00:27:12,973 --> 00:27:15,613
Speaker 3: the Housing Minister, says tenant should be negotiating with their

602
00:27:15,693 --> 00:27:17,933
Speaker 3: landlords to get a better deal when the market's off.

603
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,733
Speaker 3: So if that's you, if you've gone to your landlord

604
00:27:19,773 --> 00:27:23,013
Speaker 3: and says, hey, I'd like some cheaper rent because I

605
00:27:23,053 --> 00:27:25,213
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit overpriced. Has that worked? One

606
00:27:25,253 --> 00:27:26,493
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty This.

607
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Speaker 2: Texas says all landlords are scum. Only an elitist like you, Matt.

608
00:27:30,653 --> 00:27:35,253
Speaker 2: Now it says only an elite like you, Matt would

609
00:27:35,253 --> 00:27:36,933
Speaker 2: pump up the tires of the greedy.

610
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:37,573
Speaker 16: Wow.

611
00:27:37,613 --> 00:27:40,253
Speaker 2: Well, text to what do you mean? Elite, elite broadcaster,

612
00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:44,373
Speaker 2: elite in the sack. You have to be more specific

613
00:27:44,453 --> 00:27:45,853
Speaker 2: on what you mean by an elite.

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Speaker 3: It's quite a compliment those first two.

615
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm just going to assume until you text

616
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Speaker 2: back and that what you meant by an elite. Yeah,

617
00:27:52,733 --> 00:27:55,453
Speaker 2: I'll assume it's either an elite broadcast or or elite

618
00:27:55,453 --> 00:27:55,933
Speaker 2: in the sacks.

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Speaker 3: Then well you don't, mate, you deserve that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your text. And look, so

621
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Speaker 2: we were talking about this text before. That was a

622
00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:06,613
Speaker 2: landlord saying that. He tells I'm just trying to find

623
00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:09,693
Speaker 2: the text here, but the basic upshot of the text

624
00:28:09,973 --> 00:28:13,532
Speaker 2: was as a landlord, he tells people that us to

625
00:28:13,573 --> 00:28:16,933
Speaker 2: negotiate to jog on because he thinks they'll they'll be

626
00:28:17,133 --> 00:28:19,253
Speaker 2: asking for more and more while they're a tenant. Yes,

627
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:22,093
Speaker 2: getting a lot of pushback on that landlord from other landlords.

628
00:28:22,173 --> 00:28:22,373
Speaker 1: Right.

629
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Speaker 2: This six says I'm a mum and dad landlord bought

630
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy eight k and now worth

631
00:28:29,133 --> 00:28:32,253
Speaker 2: five hundred charge only three hundred eighty a week, identical

632
00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:34,773
Speaker 2: unit next door tenant paying market rate five point thirty.

633
00:28:34,853 --> 00:28:37,693
Speaker 2: I keep rent low as perfect tenant being there for

634
00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:39,373
Speaker 2: twelve years.

635
00:28:39,493 --> 00:28:41,733
Speaker 3: See that is a lot of good landlords out there.

636
00:28:42,453 --> 00:28:44,253
Speaker 2: We are landlords with good tenants, and our rent is

637
00:28:44,253 --> 00:28:46,893
Speaker 2: always below market. Tenants appreciate it and look after our

638
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:47,973
Speaker 2: properties because of it.

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00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:50,293
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

640
00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:52,493
Speaker 3: to call on the landlord side of things. And there'll

641
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:55,053
Speaker 3: be thousands and thousands out there. If you get a

642
00:28:55,053 --> 00:28:57,493
Speaker 3: good tenant, and do you want incentivized? Do you give

643
00:28:57,533 --> 00:29:01,013
Speaker 3: the old Christmas present at the end of each year? Generally,

644
00:29:01,053 --> 00:29:02,973
Speaker 3: when we rented out our place because we needed to

645
00:29:02,973 --> 00:29:05,653
Speaker 3: because we're moving up here, I wanted to be that landlord,

646
00:29:05,693 --> 00:29:09,053
Speaker 3: and I think mostly we are. When there was some

647
00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:12,053
Speaker 3: problems going on over winter, I suggested that we could

648
00:29:12,053 --> 00:29:14,293
Speaker 3: reduce the rent to make up so to make sure

649
00:29:14,333 --> 00:29:16,413
Speaker 3: they went out of pocket for what was going on.

650
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Speaker 3: Property manager, I think it's their job to try and

651
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Speaker 3: negotiate on our behalf, and I don't know how I

652
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Speaker 3: feel about that. I'd prefer to just say the right

653
00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:26,093
Speaker 3: thing to do is to do this. Please do it,

654
00:29:26,133 --> 00:29:28,813
Speaker 3: take it to the tenants, and hopefully we can smooth

655
00:29:28,813 --> 00:29:29,253
Speaker 3: it all over.

656
00:29:29,813 --> 00:29:32,253
Speaker 2: But because you're worried that the property manager will just

657
00:29:32,373 --> 00:29:35,053
Speaker 2: leave you hanging on the line while they're trying to

658
00:29:35,053 --> 00:29:37,173
Speaker 2: get a higher percentage. Or is it because you are

659
00:29:37,213 --> 00:29:39,893
Speaker 2: a very good person Tyler? Well, yeah, well, good question.

660
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think their job is to

661
00:29:43,093 --> 00:29:45,213
Speaker 3: well correct me. Property managers correct me if I'm wrong.

662
00:29:45,213 --> 00:29:47,493
Speaker 3: But I think many property managers think their job is

663
00:29:47,533 --> 00:29:50,493
Speaker 3: to get the most for their clients aka the people

664
00:29:50,573 --> 00:29:53,133
Speaker 3: that own the home, and so far the middleman and

665
00:29:53,253 --> 00:29:56,213
Speaker 3: the landlord says, hey, look, I hear they're having some

666
00:29:56,293 --> 00:30:00,613
Speaker 3: problems here. I'm willing to buy a dehumidifier or reduce

667
00:30:00,693 --> 00:30:03,653
Speaker 3: the rent. I just wonder if some property managers to say, hey,

668
00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:06,173
Speaker 3: this is our job, we will negotiate with the tenants.

669
00:30:06,213 --> 00:30:08,173
Speaker 3: You don't have to do that. That goes too far,

670
00:30:08,693 --> 00:30:10,853
Speaker 3: Which is a strange thing for me, because I think, hey,

671
00:30:10,933 --> 00:30:14,533
Speaker 3: I've made the offer here. I think it's fair. I

672
00:30:14,573 --> 00:30:17,173
Speaker 3: know I'm paying you for your expertise, but I don't

673
00:30:17,213 --> 00:30:18,453
Speaker 3: know if I really want to hear if you think

674
00:30:18,493 --> 00:30:18,853
Speaker 3: it's fair.

675
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The interesting thing about, you know, negotiating too hard

676
00:30:23,493 --> 00:30:25,973
Speaker 2: if you're a landlord is a factor of how long

677
00:30:26,013 --> 00:30:28,053
Speaker 2: your house is empty, because if you're getting nothing in

678
00:30:28,093 --> 00:30:31,773
Speaker 2: there for a month, then you know, you're better to

679
00:30:32,053 --> 00:30:34,373
Speaker 2: drop the rent a little bit because that's a big hit.

680
00:30:34,413 --> 00:30:36,973
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, heck you. Oh e one hundred and eighty

681
00:30:37,013 --> 00:30:38,613
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call.

682
00:30:38,853 --> 00:30:41,093
Speaker 2: Been a landlord for thirty years between one and three

683
00:30:41,093 --> 00:30:43,693
Speaker 2: houses found if you give a good deal, take care

684
00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:45,773
Speaker 2: of the house and treat tenants well. Run on the

685
00:30:45,813 --> 00:30:48,533
Speaker 2: low side of the market rate. Chuse tenants carefully, you

686
00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:51,053
Speaker 2: get a good run. Have had tenants that have stayed

687
00:30:51,053 --> 00:30:52,813
Speaker 2: in the house for fifteen years?

688
00:30:53,053 --> 00:30:53,253
Speaker 1: Yeah?

689
00:30:53,333 --> 00:30:55,733
Speaker 3: Good text that right. Coming up after the break, we

690
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,093
Speaker 3: have a chat to Martin. He's been a leasing agent

691
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Speaker 3: in Auckland with twenty two years experience, so he'll be

692
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:03,413
Speaker 3: a good man to chat with. Great to talk to Martin,

693
00:31:03,733 --> 00:31:06,533
Speaker 3: sixteen to two.

694
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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk and Taylor Adams afternoons call.

695
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Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, z'd be.

696
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Speaker 3: It is fourteen to two and we're talking about negotiating

697
00:31:16,493 --> 00:31:19,013
Speaker 3: rent with your tenants or on the flip side if

698
00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:20,733
Speaker 3: you're a tenant with your landlord. Oh one hundred and

699
00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:23,373
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call. And we

700
00:31:23,413 --> 00:31:25,373
Speaker 3: mentioned before we got Martin on the line. He's been

701
00:31:25,373 --> 00:31:28,573
Speaker 3: a leasing agent for twenty two years in Auckland Kidda,

702
00:31:28,613 --> 00:31:30,133
Speaker 3: Martin good A.

703
00:31:30,253 --> 00:31:34,053
Speaker 2: How's it going your thoughts on the current market and

704
00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:38,573
Speaker 2: potential tenants negotiating with landlords.

705
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Speaker 8: The market's definitely changed. The market has corrected itself, in

706
00:31:44,533 --> 00:31:49,413
Speaker 8: my opinion, the old days of twenty thirty forty people

707
00:31:49,453 --> 00:31:55,053
Speaker 8: at open homes all buying for one property has definitely changed.

708
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:57,573
Speaker 8: You're sort of getting one or two people to properties

709
00:31:57,613 --> 00:32:00,573
Speaker 8: now they've got plenty of choice. There's been a lot

710
00:32:00,613 --> 00:32:04,453
Speaker 8: more new builds, We're losing a lot of people overseas.

711
00:32:05,093 --> 00:32:07,733
Speaker 8: Migration numbers in New Zealand have come down. So all

712
00:32:07,733 --> 00:32:09,253
Speaker 8: of that's acting.

713
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Speaker 17: The demand.

714
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Speaker 3: Right. And so with that in mind and Chris Busship's

715
00:32:17,493 --> 00:32:21,493
Speaker 3: suggestion that tenants should negotiate, now, you think it's not

716
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,413
Speaker 3: quite as easy as that.

717
00:32:24,293 --> 00:32:27,413
Speaker 8: I think that what you see a price listed for

718
00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:31,333
Speaker 8: online is not necessarily the price that it's been rented for.

719
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Speaker 8: And in my experience in the last probably six months,

720
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Speaker 8: a lot of tenants will come to a viewing with

721
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:44,173
Speaker 8: the negotiation in their back pocket. Now some will be

722
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:47,053
Speaker 8: very upfront about it right from the word going. I mean,

723
00:32:47,413 --> 00:32:50,413
Speaker 8: I listed a property about three weeks ago and it

724
00:32:50,453 --> 00:32:52,613
Speaker 8: was online for four minutes and two people run me

725
00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:57,373
Speaker 8: to ask if it was negotiable. So that's a new

726
00:32:57,413 --> 00:33:02,493
Speaker 8: thing to have such a quick response about the renting

727
00:33:02,533 --> 00:33:05,213
Speaker 8: negotiable as opposed to people coming and seeing the property

728
00:33:05,613 --> 00:33:07,973
Speaker 8: if they like it, weighing it up with other options,

729
00:33:08,013 --> 00:33:10,213
Speaker 8: and then saying, hey, would you consider twenty thirty dollars

730
00:33:10,253 --> 00:33:10,973
Speaker 8: less a week?

731
00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:12,573
Speaker 12: Now?

732
00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:15,053
Speaker 2: It wasn't so long ago, Martin that we were hearing

733
00:33:15,173 --> 00:33:19,013
Speaker 2: stories in the news of you know, forty to fifty

734
00:33:19,293 --> 00:33:23,573
Speaker 2: people turning up to rent properties and a huge amount

735
00:33:23,573 --> 00:33:28,773
Speaker 2: of pressure on the supply. Everyone needs someone somewhere to live.

736
00:33:28,893 --> 00:33:31,613
Speaker 2: So what's happened there is there is there less people

737
00:33:31,693 --> 00:33:34,613
Speaker 2: looking for somewhere to live, or what's happened with the

738
00:33:35,093 --> 00:33:36,293
Speaker 2: just the numbers pressure.

739
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Speaker 8: So there's a few things that have changed. For instance,

740
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Speaker 8: in my area, we do a lot of rentals for flatty,

741
00:33:44,813 --> 00:33:46,733
Speaker 8: so you know, groups say twenty to thirty years old

742
00:33:46,773 --> 00:33:48,413
Speaker 8: with they might want a three or four bedroom house.

743
00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:52,893
Speaker 8: A lot of those houses or those flatting situations are

744
00:33:53,413 --> 00:33:56,533
Speaker 8: breaking up, and what I'm hearing is they're all going

745
00:33:56,573 --> 00:34:00,133
Speaker 8: to you know, Australia because it's you get paid more

746
00:34:00,133 --> 00:34:06,933
Speaker 8: money or h yeah, yeah, I mean, or people are

747
00:34:06,973 --> 00:34:10,893
Speaker 8: saying that they're saving for a house, so they want

748
00:34:10,933 --> 00:34:16,573
Speaker 8: to they want to spend less. Or people are able

749
00:34:16,573 --> 00:34:18,853
Speaker 8: to afford to get mortgages now, I mean, since the

750
00:34:18,973 --> 00:34:22,733
Speaker 8: truth States has come back down, people are now finding

751
00:34:22,973 --> 00:34:25,893
Speaker 8: that they can buy when maybe six months ago or

752
00:34:25,933 --> 00:34:30,692
Speaker 8: a year ago, they couldn't afford to buy. And so

753
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:32,813
Speaker 8: I am dealing with quite a few lease breaks at

754
00:34:32,813 --> 00:34:35,213
Speaker 8: the moment. So those are people who have maybe signed

755
00:34:35,253 --> 00:34:38,773
Speaker 8: up for a twelve month lease that have suddenly found

756
00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:42,293
Speaker 8: their ideal home they've brought it. The only sort of

757
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:46,333
Speaker 8: advice I give around that is, before you pulled the

758
00:34:46,373 --> 00:34:49,213
Speaker 8: trigger on a purchase, you do need to sort of

759
00:34:49,213 --> 00:34:51,133
Speaker 8: talk to your landward or your property manage it to

760
00:34:51,213 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 8: gauge how hard it's going to be to re rent

761
00:34:53,973 --> 00:34:56,093
Speaker 8: that property you know within your lease, to find someone

762
00:34:56,133 --> 00:34:59,573
Speaker 8: to take over. You know, the last thing you want

763
00:34:59,693 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 8: is to be paying a brand new mortgage and still

764
00:35:01,853 --> 00:35:05,172
Speaker 8: paying rent because the landold or the property manager hasn't

765
00:35:05,173 --> 00:35:09,093
Speaker 8: been able to replace you with some who's willing to

766
00:35:09,093 --> 00:35:12,613
Speaker 8: pay what you're paying. You might have rented it in

767
00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:15,333
Speaker 8: February and you want to break your lease in August,

768
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:17,493
Speaker 8: and it's a completely different market. It could be, you know,

769
00:35:17,533 --> 00:35:20,013
Speaker 8: worth one hundred dollars less. So we do see a

770
00:35:20,053 --> 00:35:21,733
Speaker 8: lot of that, and it's a lot of pressure on people.

771
00:35:22,693 --> 00:35:26,933
Speaker 2: How the things to said, Hello, rent bidding is illegal?

772
00:35:26,973 --> 00:35:30,853
Speaker 2: What do they mean by that? So what can landlords

773
00:35:30,893 --> 00:35:32,813
Speaker 2: do around around the rent? They can't go around the

774
00:35:32,893 --> 00:35:36,973
Speaker 2: room and go find the person that's willing to pay

775
00:35:36,973 --> 00:35:38,053
Speaker 2: the most. Is that correct?

776
00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:38,293
Speaker 7: Man?

777
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:40,893
Speaker 17: Look, people do it.

778
00:35:41,013 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 8: We do not. It's not with legal but it's certainly

779
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:50,213
Speaker 8: not something that we would practice. If we advertise a

780
00:35:50,213 --> 00:35:53,093
Speaker 8: property for seven hundred dollars a week and ten people

781
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:56,853
Speaker 8: turn up and there's five applications and one person says, hey,

782
00:35:56,853 --> 00:36:00,973
Speaker 8: I'll pay seven to fifty, I would normally go back

783
00:36:00,973 --> 00:36:03,573
Speaker 8: to them and say, look, that's actually not okay because

784
00:36:04,013 --> 00:36:06,732
Speaker 8: all the other people that have applied, they've applied within

785
00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:11,973
Speaker 8: their budget. Now before it sort of became illegal, I

786
00:36:12,013 --> 00:36:15,493
Speaker 8: guess you may. I mean, the only fair thing to

787
00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:17,373
Speaker 8: do if you were going to do that, which I wouldn't,

788
00:36:17,373 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 8: would be to go back to all the interested parties

789
00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 8: and say, hey, look, someone's offered an extra fifty dollars.

790
00:36:22,253 --> 00:36:23,893
Speaker 8: Are you able to match that? But I think that's

791
00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:27,493
Speaker 8: unfair because you've in good faith, come to a property

792
00:36:27,973 --> 00:36:31,933
Speaker 8: that's listed at a certain price because that's within your budget,

793
00:36:32,213 --> 00:36:34,933
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden you're being bumped off your

794
00:36:34,933 --> 00:36:37,893
Speaker 8: perch because someone's got more pain power. And it could

795
00:36:37,933 --> 00:36:40,893
Speaker 8: be because they've got better jobs. It could be a

796
00:36:41,013 --> 00:36:43,093
Speaker 8: group compared to a family, you know what I mean.

797
00:36:44,053 --> 00:36:49,333
Speaker 8: So I think that in order to gain people's trust

798
00:36:49,413 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 8: and respect, you need to be decent. You know, the

799
00:36:55,053 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 8: price is the price.

800
00:36:56,293 --> 00:36:58,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound like a great leasing agent. I'm glad

801
00:36:58,733 --> 00:36:59,013
Speaker 3: to hear that.

802
00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:02,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, friendly face of leasing agents there, Martin. If you're

803
00:37:03,013 --> 00:37:05,172
Speaker 2: lucky enough to deal with them, then good for you.

804
00:37:05,213 --> 00:37:07,013
Speaker 3: What a good man. Right, got to play some messages

805
00:37:07,013 --> 00:37:09,493
Speaker 3: back very shortly. Oh eight undred eighty ten eighty is

806
00:37:09,533 --> 00:37:10,533
Speaker 3: that number to call?

807
00:37:10,693 --> 00:37:13,213
Speaker 2: And the text has come back with that clarification on

808
00:37:13,293 --> 00:37:15,652
Speaker 2: whether they what they meant by elite, whether they meant

809
00:37:15,653 --> 00:37:18,293
Speaker 2: I was elite in the sack. We'll share that next.

810
00:37:19,173 --> 00:37:20,133
Speaker 2: It wasn't elite in the sack.

811
00:37:20,213 --> 00:37:21,133
Speaker 3: Weather eight to two.

812
00:37:22,413 --> 00:37:25,973
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

813
00:37:25,973 --> 00:37:28,493
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

814
00:37:28,653 --> 00:37:30,333
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

815
00:37:30,133 --> 00:37:33,493
Speaker 3: Envy afternoon to you it is four to two.

816
00:37:34,013 --> 00:37:37,093
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, guys, that's a good reference to that story earlier.

817
00:37:37,293 --> 00:37:39,573
Speaker 2: We might go into later. I'm a landlord commercial residential.

818
00:37:39,573 --> 00:37:41,813
Speaker 2: If a residential tenant comes to me and wants to

819
00:37:41,853 --> 00:37:43,893
Speaker 2: move because they feel that they can get a similar

820
00:37:43,893 --> 00:37:46,013
Speaker 2: property cheaper, I would be happy to look at that

821
00:37:46,053 --> 00:37:48,493
Speaker 2: and negotiate a new rent that aligns with the market.

822
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 2: If it's a tenant and I want to keep them,

823
00:37:50,813 --> 00:37:53,133
Speaker 2: I would probably agree to refix the agreement for a

824
00:37:53,173 --> 00:37:55,373
Speaker 2: new twelve month period. If it's a tenant I don't want,

825
00:37:55,413 --> 00:37:58,213
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to let them move on. Cheers Paul.

826
00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:00,533
Speaker 2: That all makes sense. Hey, We're going to keep this

827
00:38:00,573 --> 00:38:01,933
Speaker 2: topic going because we've got a bunch of calls on

828
00:38:01,933 --> 00:38:03,773
Speaker 2: the line on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. But

829
00:38:04,053 --> 00:38:05,733
Speaker 2: keep trying if you want to get through. And I

830
00:38:05,773 --> 00:38:10,692
Speaker 2: said I was going to address the texter who called

831
00:38:10,733 --> 00:38:14,692
Speaker 2: me an elite yes for my support of landlords, and

832
00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:17,732
Speaker 2: I asked whether they meant elite in the sack or not. Yep,

833
00:38:18,053 --> 00:38:19,573
Speaker 2: I need a bit more time to address that, so

834
00:38:19,573 --> 00:38:21,613
Speaker 2: I address that after the news.

835
00:38:21,653 --> 00:38:23,293
Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be spicy looking forward to

836
00:38:23,373 --> 00:38:25,693
Speaker 3: this and needs to be addressed all right, stay tuned

837
00:38:25,693 --> 00:38:27,693
Speaker 3: for that, but still taking your calls of course on

838
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:30,533
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty and text

839
00:38:30,573 --> 00:38:32,973
Speaker 3: as well nine two nine to two. Really keen to

840
00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:35,493
Speaker 3: hear from you if you've been in a position to

841
00:38:35,533 --> 00:38:39,493
Speaker 3: negotiate Newsport and weather is coming up, stay right here.

842
00:38:39,613 --> 00:38:44,333
Speaker 3: We'll be back very surely.

843
00:38:50,013 --> 00:38:53,813
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

844
00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:55,653
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

845
00:38:55,693 --> 00:38:55,933
Speaker 18: It'd be.

846
00:38:57,453 --> 00:38:59,973
Speaker 3: Good day to you. Welcome back into the show and

847
00:38:59,973 --> 00:39:02,973
Speaker 3: we're carrying on our discussion about negotiating with your landlord

848
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:06,133
Speaker 3: or indeed if you're a landlord offering incentives to keep

849
00:39:06,173 --> 00:39:08,292
Speaker 3: good tenants. This is on the back of Housing Minister

850
00:39:08,693 --> 00:39:10,813
Speaker 3: Chris Bishop. He said a little bit earlier this week

851
00:39:10,853 --> 00:39:13,573
Speaker 3: after Select Committee that with rent prices down or the

852
00:39:13,573 --> 00:39:16,373
Speaker 3: market down the lowest and two years in September, now

853
00:39:16,533 --> 00:39:18,652
Speaker 3: is the time to go to your landlord and say, hey,

854
00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:20,133
Speaker 3: do you want to give me a discount because I

855
00:39:20,173 --> 00:39:22,013
Speaker 3: think it's overpriced. Can you hear your thoughts on Oh

856
00:39:22,013 --> 00:39:24,253
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and the text number

857
00:39:24,333 --> 00:39:25,333
Speaker 3: nine two nine two.

858
00:39:26,333 --> 00:39:32,013
Speaker 2: No more housing crisis then national have solved that one says, rees, well,

859
00:39:32,293 --> 00:39:34,933
Speaker 2: does seem to be a drop off in rents, otherwise

860
00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:35,933
Speaker 2: we wouldn't be having the story.

861
00:39:36,213 --> 00:39:38,573
Speaker 3: Yep, and haven't heard that housing crisis for a long time.

862
00:39:38,613 --> 00:39:40,652
Speaker 2: The rents was a serious issue in the news not

863
00:39:40,693 --> 00:39:42,933
Speaker 2: so long ago. I have rented in Ponce Toby Auckland

864
00:39:42,973 --> 00:39:45,173
Speaker 2: for fifteen years, says Steve, and the landlord has not

865
00:39:45,253 --> 00:39:48,533
Speaker 2: increased the rent one dollar. However, she has advised me

866
00:39:48,573 --> 00:39:50,493
Speaker 2: that the property VALUEO has gone up three hundred percent,

867
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:52,933
Speaker 2: and therefore, when she eventually goes into a retirement village

868
00:39:52,973 --> 00:39:54,813
Speaker 2: or dies, the capitol game will be far more than

869
00:39:54,813 --> 00:40:00,573
Speaker 2: the increasing the rent and possibly having unreliable tenants. The

870
00:40:00,613 --> 00:40:02,573
Speaker 2: six says, Hey, guys, I'm a small landlord and I

871
00:40:02,613 --> 00:40:04,853
Speaker 2: can't afford to keep lowering the rent when tenants try

872
00:40:04,893 --> 00:40:07,173
Speaker 2: to negotiate it down. If that continues, they'll have no

873
00:40:07,253 --> 00:40:10,493
Speaker 2: choice but to sell. When small landlords are pushed out

874
00:40:10,573 --> 00:40:13,692
Speaker 2: large corporate investments, vistas buy properties in bulk, and they

875
00:40:13,773 --> 00:40:17,013
Speaker 2: end up controlling the rental market, often driving prices even higher.

876
00:40:17,213 --> 00:40:19,253
Speaker 2: In the long run, it has the opposite effect of

877
00:40:19,253 --> 00:40:24,213
Speaker 2: what people oh sorry, the opposite effect of what people want.

878
00:40:24,333 --> 00:40:30,293
Speaker 2: Cheers Dave. No negotiation. My tenants are great, but I

879
00:40:30,333 --> 00:40:33,093
Speaker 2: have had to spend thousands on healthy home standards, plus

880
00:40:33,173 --> 00:40:35,732
Speaker 2: huge rates and insurance increases year on year. Considering selling,

881
00:40:35,773 --> 00:40:40,253
Speaker 2: there's no capital gain now and poor yield. That's from Mark.

882
00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:43,493
Speaker 2: The six is property managers are dirt bags. The higher

883
00:40:43,533 --> 00:40:47,053
Speaker 2: the rent are, the higher the profits. So yeah, we're

884
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:51,732
Speaker 2: talking about negotiating with a soft rental market. When you're

885
00:40:51,773 --> 00:40:55,013
Speaker 2: going into a new place, is it wise to read

886
00:40:55,013 --> 00:40:59,133
Speaker 2: around and find out what the market rate is and say, ya, Yaked,

887
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:00,853
Speaker 2: just shave a little bit off there, buddy, Just a

888
00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:01,773
Speaker 2: little bit off there there.

889
00:41:01,653 --> 00:41:06,253
Speaker 3: Buddy, undred eighty ten eighty. Now to risk the elite ticks.

890
00:41:06,013 --> 00:41:10,133
Speaker 2: I've I've got to finish this plashing story. Okay, this

891
00:41:10,253 --> 00:41:15,253
Speaker 2: person said all landlords are scum. Only an elite like

892
00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:18,973
Speaker 2: you met would go into bat and pump up the

893
00:41:19,013 --> 00:41:22,213
Speaker 2: tires of landlords. And I asked the text to just

894
00:41:22,293 --> 00:41:25,053
Speaker 2: for a little bit of clarification, what do you mean elite,

895
00:41:25,813 --> 00:41:28,733
Speaker 2: elite broadcaster, elite in the sack? You have to be

896
00:41:28,773 --> 00:41:31,652
Speaker 2: more precise on what you mean by elite texter yep,

897
00:41:31,693 --> 00:41:33,813
Speaker 2: and good on the Texas because they came back. Good

898
00:41:34,573 --> 00:41:38,133
Speaker 2: to clarify what they meant by elite, and the textas

899
00:41:38,173 --> 00:41:41,133
Speaker 2: says I clearly did not mean an elite broadcaster, or

900
00:41:41,173 --> 00:41:44,213
Speaker 2: as you so vocally and crudely put it vocally.

901
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:46,573
Speaker 3: We are on radio.

902
00:41:46,653 --> 00:41:48,333
Speaker 2: You have to sort of vote, I mean mostly have

903
00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:51,893
Speaker 2: to vocally put it good in the sack. There will

904
00:41:51,933 --> 00:41:55,053
Speaker 2: be a complaint about that language, by the way, I

905
00:41:55,093 --> 00:41:58,173
Speaker 2: mean elite as an hard right fascist.

906
00:41:58,613 --> 00:41:58,933
Speaker 3: Wow.

907
00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:03,533
Speaker 2: Fascist again, so thank you for your clarification. But as

908
00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:05,573
Speaker 2: me saying great in the sack? That offensive?

909
00:42:06,613 --> 00:42:09,373
Speaker 3: How would they know if you're an elite, you know, like,

910
00:42:09,453 --> 00:42:12,333
Speaker 3: you can't be making assumptions here just you don't even

911
00:42:12,373 --> 00:42:12,732
Speaker 3: know Mett.

912
00:42:13,213 --> 00:42:15,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no they weren't. They weren't saying I was

913
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:17,652
Speaker 2: great in the sack. Oh okay, right, But is it

914
00:42:17,693 --> 00:42:19,893
Speaker 2: that offensive to suggest that someone might be saying I

915
00:42:19,933 --> 00:42:20,652
Speaker 2: was leaked in the sack?

916
00:42:21,613 --> 00:42:21,813
Speaker 19: You know?

917
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:24,732
Speaker 2: If so, I've now said it probably at least three

918
00:42:24,733 --> 00:42:26,053
Speaker 2: more times because of your complaint.

919
00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:26,373
Speaker 3: Yep.

920
00:42:26,533 --> 00:42:30,853
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, you could argue that trying to censor me, well,

921
00:42:30,893 --> 00:42:33,893
Speaker 2: it's not fascist, but you'd have to argue it's closer

922
00:42:33,933 --> 00:42:37,733
Speaker 2: to fascist than saying most landlords are good people just

923
00:42:37,733 --> 00:42:40,013
Speaker 2: trying to get by, you know, which, which started the

924
00:42:40,053 --> 00:42:44,973
Speaker 2: original debate again. Fascism inception, Yeah strikes again. Yeah, but

925
00:42:45,053 --> 00:42:47,853
Speaker 2: I'm so disappointed because I did assume you meant elite

926
00:42:47,893 --> 00:42:48,333
Speaker 2: in the sack.

927
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:51,213
Speaker 3: That is disappointing. If you think Matt is an elite

928
00:42:51,213 --> 00:42:52,933
Speaker 3: lover nine two nine two, I'm sure you'd love to

929
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:53,213
Speaker 3: hear that.

930
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, do you think I'm an?

931
00:42:56,613 --> 00:42:58,973
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't I assume

932
00:42:59,013 --> 00:43:01,333
Speaker 3: you're pretty all right, You're okay. I reckon maybe six

933
00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:02,813
Speaker 3: out of ten. I don't know, just an assumption.

934
00:43:03,613 --> 00:43:06,373
Speaker 2: I'll be happy with six out of did Katrina, Welcome

935
00:43:06,413 --> 00:43:06,813
Speaker 2: to the show.

936
00:43:07,853 --> 00:43:11,693
Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, just talking.

937
00:43:11,333 --> 00:43:15,893
Speaker 20: About property managers, a specific real estate agent that we

938
00:43:15,973 --> 00:43:22,413
Speaker 20: won't comment on which one it is. We were being

939
00:43:22,773 --> 00:43:27,933
Speaker 20: nice to when COVID hit. We were in the financial

940
00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:31,133
Speaker 20: no to be able to give them free rent for

941
00:43:31,253 --> 00:43:36,413
Speaker 20: quite a few months, and the real estate agent kept

942
00:43:36,493 --> 00:43:40,693
Speaker 20: saying no after that finished, No, you need to increase

943
00:43:40,733 --> 00:43:42,853
Speaker 20: that to get your money back, and we said no.

944
00:43:43,653 --> 00:43:47,493
Speaker 20: But over that time when we gave them free we

945
00:43:47,493 --> 00:43:50,292
Speaker 20: weren't getting any money, but the real estate agent kept

946
00:43:50,333 --> 00:43:54,172
Speaker 20: the commission. So I think they're just out to get

947
00:43:54,213 --> 00:43:58,173
Speaker 20: the money. We were being nice that they were being nice,

948
00:43:58,893 --> 00:44:02,933
Speaker 20: and they keep emailing us all the time saying you're

949
00:44:02,973 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 20: too chief and your rent you need to put it up,

950
00:44:06,093 --> 00:44:09,172
Speaker 20: and we say no, no, no, So it's got to

951
00:44:09,213 --> 00:44:13,253
Speaker 20: get pushy people because they're just out for the percentage

952
00:44:13,733 --> 00:44:18,133
Speaker 20: to put the money up. And then every time you

953
00:44:18,973 --> 00:44:21,613
Speaker 20: got to pay the water ball, they charge your ten

954
00:44:21,693 --> 00:44:25,333
Speaker 20: dollars just to push a button to pay a water bill.

955
00:44:26,093 --> 00:44:28,373
Speaker 20: It's just like, you know, you've been with them for

956
00:44:28,453 --> 00:44:31,213
Speaker 20: so many you know, it's probably thirty or thirty odd years,

957
00:44:31,653 --> 00:44:33,933
Speaker 20: and to be treated right there, I think it's just

958
00:44:33,973 --> 00:44:34,773
Speaker 20: a bit rude.

959
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:38,013
Speaker 2: Would you ever consider running the whole cut of yourself, Katrina?

960
00:44:38,773 --> 00:44:42,853
Speaker 20: I am thinking about doing that, yes, yes, but I

961
00:44:43,053 --> 00:44:46,453
Speaker 20: just now we've got very good tenants in there, and

962
00:44:46,653 --> 00:44:49,293
Speaker 20: the real estate agent doesn't know why I actually know them.

963
00:44:49,773 --> 00:44:53,453
Speaker 20: So that's why I am going to take it, you know,

964
00:44:53,493 --> 00:44:55,973
Speaker 20: I mean take it over. But just to work out

965
00:44:56,053 --> 00:45:01,613
Speaker 20: how to transfer the tenancy bond and everything over to us,

966
00:45:02,173 --> 00:45:04,213
Speaker 20: I've got to get my head round there to be

967
00:45:04,253 --> 00:45:04,933
Speaker 20: able to do that.

968
00:45:05,053 --> 00:45:07,813
Speaker 6: And yeah, there's one thing, what do you.

969
00:45:07,813 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 2: Like this negotiations? Katrina? In your everyday life? Are you

970
00:45:12,413 --> 00:45:15,973
Speaker 2: the kind of person that's that haggles or you know,

971
00:45:16,093 --> 00:45:18,693
Speaker 2: looks for a better price or fights your corner.

972
00:45:19,093 --> 00:45:21,413
Speaker 20: Yes, yes I do.

973
00:45:22,733 --> 00:45:26,013
Speaker 2: So you wouldn't have any problem with a tenant coming

974
00:45:26,013 --> 00:45:29,413
Speaker 2: to you and saying and asking for you know, a discount,

975
00:45:29,453 --> 00:45:31,053
Speaker 2: and you're going no, no, no, no, this is the

976
00:45:31,093 --> 00:45:32,573
Speaker 2: amount of money that we need.

977
00:45:33,573 --> 00:45:36,573
Speaker 20: It would be different on the situation, your situation, if

978
00:45:36,613 --> 00:45:38,453
Speaker 20: you've got to go to your if you know that

979
00:45:38,493 --> 00:45:42,293
Speaker 20: you're higher, I mean we're low, we're lower than the

980
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:46,493
Speaker 20: going rate, like we're for a three bedroom house on

981
00:45:46,773 --> 00:45:51,933
Speaker 20: a full section in have a current I'll say, and

982
00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:54,173
Speaker 20: we only charge five hundred dollars.

983
00:45:54,453 --> 00:45:56,773
Speaker 2: Nice just on the property manager.

984
00:45:56,773 --> 00:45:59,333
Speaker 3: Think Katrina, and it sounds like you've been you know,

985
00:45:59,373 --> 00:46:01,373
Speaker 3: in the game for a while now and you know

986
00:46:01,413 --> 00:46:03,693
Speaker 3: the rules and regulations. But for someone like me, and

987
00:46:03,693 --> 00:46:05,733
Speaker 3: I've got to say, we've got a really good relationship

988
00:46:05,773 --> 00:46:07,613
Speaker 3: with a property manager and seem to have a good

989
00:46:07,613 --> 00:46:10,493
Speaker 3: relationship with whoever the tenants are, but we don't know them.

990
00:46:10,853 --> 00:46:13,613
Speaker 3: And I think when we look at what we have

991
00:46:13,693 --> 00:46:16,973
Speaker 3: with the property manager, it's about maintaining that relationship with

992
00:46:17,013 --> 00:46:19,613
Speaker 3: our tenants. So if it does get if there's things

993
00:46:19,613 --> 00:46:21,853
Speaker 3: that pop up, we're not at loggerheads, if you know

994
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 3: what I mean. They're there to protect that relationship so

995
00:46:24,733 --> 00:46:27,533
Speaker 3: things stay on an even cure when there's problems.

996
00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:32,693
Speaker 20: Yes, yes, well we did have one problem and we

997
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:36,772
Speaker 20: did have to pick somebody else and she stopped paying

998
00:46:36,813 --> 00:46:39,653
Speaker 20: the rents of water and everything and damage the property

999
00:46:40,573 --> 00:46:42,693
Speaker 20: and the real estate agent had to take it to

1000
00:46:42,773 --> 00:46:47,933
Speaker 20: the district Tribunion to get the the water and the

1001
00:46:48,293 --> 00:46:52,213
Speaker 20: areas and rent. But they forgot to get the damages.

1002
00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:55,813
Speaker 20: So we were out of pocket for that because they

1003
00:46:57,293 --> 00:46:59,453
Speaker 20: get bond. You know, I don't know if they even

1004
00:46:59,533 --> 00:47:02,253
Speaker 20: go to the bond back to them that we were

1005
00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:04,413
Speaker 20: out of pocket about two and a half thousand dollars

1006
00:47:04,413 --> 00:47:07,053
Speaker 20: worth of damage that they could.

1007
00:47:08,453 --> 00:47:08,573
Speaker 11: Know.

1008
00:47:09,013 --> 00:47:11,772
Speaker 20: So the real estate agent woman working for us, right,

1009
00:47:11,853 --> 00:47:15,413
Speaker 20: they got the water and the areas and the rent.

1010
00:47:16,053 --> 00:47:21,253
Speaker 20: That's not to fix the damages or my clean up

1011
00:47:21,333 --> 00:47:25,213
Speaker 20: the mess that they left. I did all that. So yeah,

1012
00:47:25,293 --> 00:47:28,293
Speaker 20: so some when you you know, when you've been loyal

1013
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:31,133
Speaker 20: to a company, and when they do that, yes, I

1014
00:47:31,213 --> 00:47:34,573
Speaker 20: do have to. But as a stay to try and

1015
00:47:34,613 --> 00:47:38,453
Speaker 20: work out how to transfer the money over from the

1016
00:47:38,493 --> 00:47:40,573
Speaker 20: Tennessee thing that I will have to do it. So

1017
00:47:40,693 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 20: I have to just too much money going, like my

1018
00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:50,013
Speaker 20: brother does own it and he's overseas and so he's

1019
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:54,732
Speaker 20: not his pension money because he doesn't get pension from

1020
00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:55,333
Speaker 20: New Zealand.

1021
00:47:55,453 --> 00:47:57,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katerina, you sound like a really good landlord. All

1022
00:47:57,813 --> 00:48:00,373
Speaker 3: the best with taking over that from your property manager.

1023
00:48:00,573 --> 00:48:02,252
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1024
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 3: to call. Love to hear your experience as well.

1025
00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:09,813
Speaker 2: Cat textan and she says she's looking for an elite lover. Catters. Okay,

1026
00:48:09,893 --> 00:48:13,453
Speaker 2: so i'll Cat. I'll just forward you Tyler's details.

1027
00:48:13,493 --> 00:48:15,853
Speaker 3: You come to the wrong place. Care It is sixteen

1028
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 3: past two.

1029
00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:23,013
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call,

1030
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:24,692
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1031
00:48:24,813 --> 00:48:29,493
Speaker 3: News Talk said, be afternoon to you eighteen past two.

1032
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 3: Negotiating rent with your landlord or as a landlord incentivizing tenants.

1033
00:48:33,853 --> 00:48:35,413
Speaker 3: Love to hear if you do that. At one hundred

1034
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:36,613
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

1035
00:48:37,173 --> 00:48:40,813
Speaker 2: Chris, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on setting the rents?

1036
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,373
Speaker 6: Hi, get back to the guys. How you first time

1037
00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:45,493
Speaker 6: caller here, So I'm a little bit nervous, so bear

1038
00:48:45,573 --> 00:48:45,813
Speaker 6: with me.

1039
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:48,653
Speaker 2: Welcome and mate, you know what, thank you so much

1040
00:48:48,813 --> 00:48:50,933
Speaker 2: for trying us out on our eight hundred and eighty

1041
00:48:50,973 --> 00:48:53,133
Speaker 2: ten eighty. I hope that we provide a service that

1042
00:48:53,173 --> 00:48:55,133
Speaker 2: will keep you coming back again and again. Chris.

1043
00:48:55,213 --> 00:48:58,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you already, mate, Thank you very much.

1044
00:48:58,453 --> 00:48:58,573
Speaker 8: Hey.

1045
00:48:58,613 --> 00:49:01,252
Speaker 6: Look, so I've been renting for the last twenty years,

1046
00:49:01,293 --> 00:49:05,973
Speaker 6: still renting, and I've seen the market change up and

1047
00:49:06,013 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 6: down the net time we've got on from when we

1048
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:14,453
Speaker 6: first started renting, renting off landlords, and then when we

1049
00:49:14,533 --> 00:49:18,093
Speaker 6: moved into a place about five years ago, we went

1050
00:49:18,213 --> 00:49:24,373
Speaker 6: with a leading agent, so within this was before they

1051
00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:27,093
Speaker 6: changed the law where they kind of just put the

1052
00:49:27,133 --> 00:49:30,653
Speaker 6: rent up when they wanted. So within we signed a

1053
00:49:30,693 --> 00:49:33,772
Speaker 6: one year lease and within four months of being in there,

1054
00:49:34,053 --> 00:49:35,973
Speaker 6: we've got a letter through saying the rent was going

1055
00:49:36,053 --> 00:49:39,973
Speaker 6: to go up, which at the time we thought, well, jeez,

1056
00:49:40,013 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 6: we've only been here this little while, you know, and

1057
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:45,173
Speaker 6: it only went up by fifty dollars, and we thought, okay,

1058
00:49:45,453 --> 00:49:48,013
Speaker 6: that's that's fair enough, you know. But you know, we

1059
00:49:48,053 --> 00:49:51,853
Speaker 6: went into that place at a two ninety five and

1060
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 6: when we moved out it was five ninety five, and

1061
00:49:54,373 --> 00:49:57,533
Speaker 6: that was over four years that went up that much. So,

1062
00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:03,172
Speaker 6: you know, being with these leading agents, they feel really

1063
00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:07,292
Speaker 6: predatory to me. So it was almost on the day

1064
00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:10,013
Speaker 6: that they could issue you was the email to say

1065
00:50:10,013 --> 00:50:14,133
Speaker 6: it was going up. There was one, and you knew

1066
00:50:14,173 --> 00:50:16,732
Speaker 6: it was coming, you know, you just had that vibe

1067
00:50:16,773 --> 00:50:19,013
Speaker 6: that was coming. Sure enough, within a couple of days

1068
00:50:19,053 --> 00:50:21,893
Speaker 6: you had an email that's going up, fifty bucks, sixty bucks,

1069
00:50:21,893 --> 00:50:24,733
Speaker 6: seventy bucks, whatever, it was going up, you know. And

1070
00:50:24,773 --> 00:50:31,893
Speaker 6: when I questioned after about the third one, the leading

1071
00:50:31,933 --> 00:50:37,493
Speaker 6: agent the property manager said, look where there's a law

1072
00:50:37,533 --> 00:50:40,493
Speaker 6: that says we can only put it up if the

1073
00:50:40,573 --> 00:50:43,253
Speaker 6: average price in the area you.

1074
00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:43,732
Speaker 18: Live in.

1075
00:50:45,493 --> 00:50:49,373
Speaker 6: Is rising. So what I would be really interested to

1076
00:50:49,453 --> 00:50:53,373
Speaker 6: hear today is when you are talking to a leading

1077
00:50:53,373 --> 00:50:56,853
Speaker 6: agent again and stuff, if you could find out if

1078
00:50:57,453 --> 00:51:01,293
Speaker 6: that average they take is off their own stock. So

1079
00:51:01,813 --> 00:51:04,692
Speaker 6: let's say like we're in Hamilton, for example, Let's say

1080
00:51:04,733 --> 00:51:08,853
Speaker 6: they have thirty hellses that they let and have to neast.

1081
00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:13,173
Speaker 6: When they gate that average rent in, the average increase

1082
00:51:13,213 --> 00:51:15,253
Speaker 6: and you get the letter saying, you know, we've looked

1083
00:51:15,293 --> 00:51:17,772
Speaker 6: at the average and it's going up. Are they looking

1084
00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:20,413
Speaker 6: at all the all the houses in that area or

1085
00:51:20,493 --> 00:51:23,173
Speaker 6: are they just looking at ones on their books, Because

1086
00:51:23,173 --> 00:51:26,893
Speaker 6: it seems to me that it's obviously, as you call her,

1087
00:51:26,893 --> 00:51:30,493
Speaker 6: a ludacy. Before they're getting a percentage, it's in their

1088
00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:33,333
Speaker 6: interest for that percentage to creep up all the time.

1089
00:51:34,093 --> 00:51:39,173
Speaker 6: And I've actually rung rung landlords, got hold of their information,

1090
00:51:39,253 --> 00:51:41,893
Speaker 6: wrung them and said, look, this is the third time

1091
00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 6: you put the rent up. Why are you putting it up?

1092
00:51:44,173 --> 00:51:46,293
Speaker 6: And they said to me, I didn't even know it

1093
00:51:46,333 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 6: was going up. What are you talking about?

1094
00:51:49,213 --> 00:51:50,732
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying there. And I know that's

1095
00:51:50,733 --> 00:51:52,773
Speaker 3: been the perception that if the market, you know, the

1096
00:51:52,813 --> 00:51:55,893
Speaker 3: whole market goes up inch by inch, then everybody pays more,

1097
00:51:55,893 --> 00:51:58,413
Speaker 3: whether that value is there or not. But just in

1098
00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:00,573
Speaker 3: our own circumstances, Christ I'm just trying to think that

1099
00:52:00,653 --> 00:52:02,652
Speaker 3: through that when we floated it and put it to

1100
00:52:02,693 --> 00:52:05,293
Speaker 3: the market and it was at a certain certain price

1101
00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:08,933
Speaker 3: and we got no bite, so instantly we knew that

1102
00:52:09,013 --> 00:52:11,013
Speaker 3: we've got to lower that because it was it was

1103
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:13,453
Speaker 3: overprized by the property manager. So to us, that was

1104
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:15,813
Speaker 3: kind of testing the market because we didn't know. We

1105
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:19,253
Speaker 3: put the expertise in the property manager's hands and we

1106
00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:21,653
Speaker 3: got it wrong the first time, and we adjusted accordingly.

1107
00:52:22,773 --> 00:52:26,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but it just seems from a rental's point

1108
00:52:26,293 --> 00:52:29,573
Speaker 6: of view, it just seems like it's been driven by them.

1109
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,253
Speaker 6: And we found it out, like I said, when we

1110
00:52:31,293 --> 00:52:33,853
Speaker 6: called the landford and say, hey, you know you've made

1111
00:52:33,893 --> 00:52:36,933
Speaker 6: no improvements. We keep it spotless. We're good tenants, and

1112
00:52:36,973 --> 00:52:41,013
Speaker 6: we know we're good tenants. And their reaction is why

1113
00:52:41,053 --> 00:52:42,973
Speaker 6: didn't know it was going up? I didn't instruct them

1114
00:52:42,973 --> 00:52:46,733
Speaker 6: to do that. So obviously there's three parties involved in

1115
00:52:47,013 --> 00:52:50,173
Speaker 6: the rental, and one of them is driving the rental

1116
00:52:50,213 --> 00:52:52,893
Speaker 6: increases because they've a vested interest in it. And I

1117
00:52:53,013 --> 00:52:55,613
Speaker 6: just feel that that's, you know, a little bit predatory.

1118
00:52:56,053 --> 00:53:00,013
Speaker 6: And when you hear comments from Chris Bishop saying, oh,

1119
00:53:00,053 --> 00:53:02,453
Speaker 6: it's a great time to negotiaate, I feel like he's

1120
00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:05,733
Speaker 6: living on bloody Mars, because in twenty years I have

1121
00:53:05,973 --> 00:53:10,172
Speaker 6: never ever had the option of bringing a landlord and saying, look,

1122
00:53:10,213 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 6: you need to drop their into that. They just wouldn't

1123
00:53:12,493 --> 00:53:15,733
Speaker 6: ever do it, you know, because they put brushes on

1124
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:18,373
Speaker 6: them for mortgage payments. They've got to have a little

1125
00:53:18,373 --> 00:53:20,813
Speaker 6: bit in the in the kissy there in case, you know,

1126
00:53:21,013 --> 00:53:23,613
Speaker 6: quite verse or something like that. But I think I

1127
00:53:23,693 --> 00:53:25,613
Speaker 6: think comments from Chris Bush up by that are just

1128
00:53:25,733 --> 00:53:31,853
Speaker 6: absolutely like just unbelievable. You know, it just wouldn't happen.

1129
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:31,253
Speaker 5: Now.

1130
00:53:32,773 --> 00:53:36,773
Speaker 21: First, sorry, I was going to say, first up, if

1131
00:53:36,813 --> 00:53:38,773
Speaker 21: that's if that's you nervous, Chris, I've got to say,

1132
00:53:38,773 --> 00:53:41,213
Speaker 21: you're a high level operate, Yeah, you know, this is you,

1133
00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:43,613
Speaker 21: how you operate, and when you're nervous, then I got

1134
00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:45,773
Speaker 21: to say, well.

1135
00:53:45,853 --> 00:53:47,533
Speaker 2: You're leading a lot of things.

1136
00:53:47,533 --> 00:53:50,093
Speaker 17: By the sounds of it, I'm starting to sound like

1137
00:53:50,093 --> 00:53:50,613
Speaker 17: a fascist.

1138
00:53:53,013 --> 00:53:55,133
Speaker 2: One thing I would just say, though, Chris, is there

1139
00:53:55,213 --> 00:53:59,613
Speaker 2: is a higher than zero percentage chance that the landlord,

1140
00:53:59,613 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 2: when you talk directly to them, will say what they

1141
00:54:03,653 --> 00:54:05,853
Speaker 2: want you to hear. And one of the reasons why

1142
00:54:05,893 --> 00:54:09,533
Speaker 2: they get their property managed because they want someone else

1143
00:54:09,573 --> 00:54:11,613
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy so they don't have to

1144
00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:14,373
Speaker 2: deal with confrontation. So there is there is that possibility,

1145
00:54:14,373 --> 00:54:14,692
Speaker 2: did you think.

1146
00:54:14,733 --> 00:54:17,733
Speaker 6: Ye, it's almost like a shield, isn't it between the bodies,

1147
00:54:17,773 --> 00:54:21,293
Speaker 6: you know. And look, I've had some really good property

1148
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 6: managers and and some shocking ones over the years, but

1149
00:54:26,213 --> 00:54:29,813
Speaker 6: like the leading agents themselves work really hard. You wring

1150
00:54:29,893 --> 00:54:33,013
Speaker 6: them and they're onto things by in my experience straight away.

1151
00:54:33,053 --> 00:54:36,533
Speaker 6: But yeah, I just feel, you know, so they do

1152
00:54:36,653 --> 00:54:40,373
Speaker 6: in their money. But I and there's obviously the cost

1153
00:54:40,413 --> 00:54:42,693
Speaker 6: to the owner to say we don't want to have

1154
00:54:42,693 --> 00:54:43,973
Speaker 6: to deal with any of us, We just want to

1155
00:54:43,973 --> 00:54:46,613
Speaker 6: buy the property, rent it out, you know, and have

1156
00:54:46,733 --> 00:54:49,733
Speaker 6: no dramas. I can completely understand why they do that,

1157
00:54:49,813 --> 00:54:52,773
Speaker 6: but there's a big difference as a renter between renting

1158
00:54:52,773 --> 00:54:56,013
Speaker 6: off a renting off the owner and renting off the

1159
00:54:56,853 --> 00:54:57,413
Speaker 6: leading agent.

1160
00:54:57,933 --> 00:55:00,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call, Chris, call again anytime

1161
00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:01,373
Speaker 2: I worked undred eighteen.

1162
00:55:01,093 --> 00:55:03,933
Speaker 3: Eighty Absolutely what a good man. Right, Taking more of

1163
00:55:03,933 --> 00:55:05,853
Speaker 3: your calls on that number nine two nine to If

1164
00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:07,773
Speaker 3: you want to send a text back very shortly, it's

1165
00:55:07,773 --> 00:55:08,692
Speaker 3: twenty five too.

1166
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:15,813
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1167
00:55:15,893 --> 00:55:18,013
Speaker 1: eighty eight on Youth Talk ZV.

1168
00:55:18,293 --> 00:55:20,453
Speaker 3: Afternoon two year it is twenty eight pass two.

1169
00:55:20,853 --> 00:55:22,893
Speaker 2: So if it's true that rents are coming down and

1170
00:55:22,933 --> 00:55:25,773
Speaker 2: there's room for renters to negotiate, then surely that is

1171
00:55:25,773 --> 00:55:28,493
Speaker 2: some that's pretty good news for renters, and it sort

1172
00:55:28,493 --> 00:55:30,252
Speaker 2: of wipes out a new story that was going around

1173
00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:32,293
Speaker 2: for a very long time. We were hearing about a

1174
00:55:32,293 --> 00:55:35,413
Speaker 2: lot of pressure in that market. But if you want

1175
00:55:35,453 --> 00:55:37,813
Speaker 2: to fear a deal, you want to be armed up

1176
00:55:37,853 --> 00:55:39,893
Speaker 2: with data, don't you. You want to go along and

1177
00:55:39,933 --> 00:55:42,732
Speaker 2: you want to say, look, I've looked at prices. I've

1178
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:45,413
Speaker 2: been on and looked around, sniffed around in the area,

1179
00:55:45,813 --> 00:55:49,373
Speaker 2: and what you're asking is above the market rate. So

1180
00:55:49,453 --> 00:55:51,253
Speaker 2: could you sniff something off or maybe give me a

1181
00:55:51,293 --> 00:55:54,212
Speaker 2: little something something, a little something bonus here and there,

1182
00:55:54,773 --> 00:55:56,293
Speaker 2: add a little this here, that and that.

1183
00:55:56,493 --> 00:55:58,533
Speaker 3: Just a week sweetener, Yeah, come on, sweeten the deal.

1184
00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:00,613
Speaker 2: Did you have a heath, have a heat pump in there,

1185
00:56:00,693 --> 00:56:01,732
Speaker 2: something like that?

1186
00:56:01,973 --> 00:56:02,333
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1187
00:56:02,373 --> 00:56:05,493
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the harm in asking? Except for very

1188
00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:07,573
Speaker 2: few landlords that have come through and have said that

1189
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:09,813
Speaker 2: they would tell you to go on, I think most

1190
00:56:09,853 --> 00:56:11,652
Speaker 2: of them are going going to be open to a chat.

1191
00:56:12,493 --> 00:56:14,013
Speaker 2: Of course, you want to be in the position to

1192
00:56:14,013 --> 00:56:15,893
Speaker 2: be able to take it or leave it. Yes, I

1193
00:56:15,973 --> 00:56:18,213
Speaker 2: mean it's if you're not in a negotiating position, if

1194
00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:20,333
Speaker 2: you desperately need it and you've got no other option.

1195
00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:22,693
Speaker 3: It's got a negotiation one I won isn't it. If

1196
00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:24,293
Speaker 3: you don't get what you want, you're gonna walk away.

1197
00:56:24,693 --> 00:56:26,453
Speaker 2: To be desperate, You're got to be You're gotta be

1198
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:28,573
Speaker 2: on the way at the door. Yep, exact. You go oh,

1199
00:56:28,693 --> 00:56:30,013
Speaker 2: you could give me a heat bump.

1200
00:56:31,453 --> 00:56:33,652
Speaker 3: Great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who called in.

1201
00:56:33,693 --> 00:56:35,693
Speaker 3: Texts coming up after the headlines. We want to have

1202
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:38,172
Speaker 3: a chat about life jackets. So there's currently a bill

1203
00:56:38,333 --> 00:56:41,573
Speaker 3: open for submissions that focuses on mandatory life jackets for

1204
00:56:41,613 --> 00:56:43,893
Speaker 3: any one under fifteen years old. But water Safety in

1205
00:56:43,893 --> 00:56:46,212
Speaker 3: New Zealand they want to go much harder. They want

1206
00:56:46,213 --> 00:56:50,853
Speaker 3: a single consistent rule requiring life jackets for everybody. What

1207
00:56:50,893 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 3: do you reckon about that? Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1208
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:54,493
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number of call? Nine two ninety

1209
00:56:54,493 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 3: two is the text? Headlines are coming up?

1210
00:56:59,133 --> 00:57:02,573
Speaker 1: Jus talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

1211
00:57:02,733 --> 00:57:06,413
Speaker 15: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Ambulance crews are

1212
00:57:06,453 --> 00:57:10,213
Speaker 15: treating multiple patients, including one in a serious condition and

1213
00:57:10,293 --> 00:57:14,133
Speaker 15: two in a moderate condition, after a hazardous substance incident

1214
00:57:14,173 --> 00:57:18,213
Speaker 15: at a christ Church daycare. Saint John says. Multiple ambulances,

1215
00:57:18,333 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 15: rapid response units and operations managers were sent to Ferry

1216
00:57:22,613 --> 00:57:26,133
Speaker 15: Road around twenty past one. Fire and Emergency and Z

1217
00:57:26,333 --> 00:57:29,333
Speaker 15: has three trucks at the scene. Photo show a large

1218
00:57:29,373 --> 00:57:34,853
Speaker 15: presence of ambulance, fire crews and police. Greenpeace's executive director

1219
00:57:34,933 --> 00:57:39,133
Speaker 15: says our governments actively undermining the Paris Agreement by rejecting

1220
00:57:39,173 --> 00:57:43,093
Speaker 15: Climate Change Commission recommendations. It says, because of New Zealand's

1221
00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:46,413
Speaker 15: reliance on foreign owned shipping for trade and tourism, it's

1222
00:57:46,493 --> 00:57:50,693
Speaker 15: excluding international aviation and shipping emissions from our twenty fifty

1223
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:55,493
Speaker 15: reduction target. The Taxpayers Union is accusing Inland Revenue of

1224
00:57:55,533 --> 00:57:59,373
Speaker 15: attacking farms and small businesses with a proposal to treat

1225
00:57:59,413 --> 00:58:03,013
Speaker 15: loans to shareholders not paid back within a year as

1226
00:58:03,093 --> 00:58:07,133
Speaker 15: dividends and disappointment over the destruction of a large brand

1227
00:58:07,213 --> 00:58:11,053
Speaker 15: new picnic table, bucks road campsite and wided upper north

1228
00:58:11,053 --> 00:58:15,733
Speaker 15: of Featherston two days after it was installed. The government

1229
00:58:15,973 --> 00:58:19,093
Speaker 15: is shaking up road user charges. How much could you pay?

1230
00:58:19,613 --> 00:58:22,973
Speaker 15: Use the calculator at enzidherrald Premium to find out. Now

1231
00:58:23,013 --> 00:58:24,613
Speaker 15: back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1232
00:58:24,933 --> 00:58:27,893
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean. So a parliamentary bill is

1233
00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:31,613
Speaker 3: now open for public submissions. This bill proposes mandatory life

1234
00:58:31,653 --> 00:58:36,173
Speaker 3: jackets for anyone under fifteen. Water safety However, are calling

1235
00:58:36,293 --> 00:58:39,893
Speaker 3: for a universal nationwide rule requiring people of all ages

1236
00:58:40,133 --> 00:58:43,613
Speaker 3: to wear life jackets on recreational boats and water craft

1237
00:58:43,653 --> 00:58:47,373
Speaker 3: to discuss further. We are joined by water Safety New

1238
00:58:47,493 --> 00:58:51,573
Speaker 3: Zealand Chief Executive Glenn Scanlon. Glenn, thank you very much

1239
00:58:51,573 --> 00:58:54,973
Speaker 3: for your time this afternoon. Oh just had a problem

1240
00:58:55,013 --> 00:58:56,013
Speaker 3: with the phone. Got you now?

1241
00:58:56,133 --> 00:58:56,253
Speaker 8: Hi?

1242
00:58:56,293 --> 00:58:59,733
Speaker 2: You again, struggling to click the phone on there. Welcome

1243
00:58:59,733 --> 00:59:02,893
Speaker 2: to the show, Glenn. Why have adult boat ees historically

1244
00:59:03,453 --> 00:59:06,453
Speaker 2: resisted compulsory life jacket rules in New Zealand?

1245
00:59:06,453 --> 00:59:08,173
Speaker 1: Glenn, Well, I don't.

1246
00:59:08,013 --> 00:59:10,933
Speaker 22: Know historically resisted. I think what we've got is a

1247
00:59:10,973 --> 00:59:14,053
Speaker 22: situation where we've got a national law at the moment

1248
00:59:14,133 --> 00:59:17,333
Speaker 22: that is quite weak, and then we've got a bunch

1249
00:59:17,373 --> 00:59:21,093
Speaker 22: of regional rules which will do slightly different things. And

1250
00:59:21,173 --> 00:59:26,093
Speaker 22: I think potentially some people are just simply confused. I

1251
00:59:26,773 --> 00:59:28,373
Speaker 22: don't have all the regional rules in front of me,

1252
00:59:28,453 --> 00:59:31,253
Speaker 22: but I'm confused trying to understand them myself. And I

1253
00:59:31,293 --> 00:59:33,133
Speaker 22: don't think that's a good place for anyone to be in.

1254
00:59:33,693 --> 00:59:35,813
Speaker 22: I think there's also just a little bit probably of

1255
00:59:36,053 --> 00:59:39,573
Speaker 22: sort of ingrained behavior that key we know she'll be right,

1256
00:59:39,653 --> 00:59:42,333
Speaker 22: attitude that we've taken too many things.

1257
00:59:43,013 --> 00:59:46,853
Speaker 2: What is the evidence that supports a universal national standard?

1258
00:59:47,733 --> 00:59:50,253
Speaker 22: Well, I suppose if you look at the data and

1259
00:59:50,293 --> 00:59:54,013
Speaker 22: we've got quite a lot. Since the year two, four

1260
00:59:54,093 --> 00:59:58,493
Speaker 22: hundred and twenty three people have drowned on craft or boats,

1261
00:59:58,533 --> 01:00:01,053
Speaker 22: nearly eighty percent of those who're not wearing a life jacket,

1262
01:00:01,533 --> 01:00:04,133
Speaker 22: So that's three hundred and twenty three people, which gives

1263
01:00:04,133 --> 01:00:07,893
Speaker 22: you a good idea. In the last last year there

1264
01:00:07,933 --> 01:00:11,813
Speaker 22: were people, oh sorry, eighteen and this year sofo, we've

1265
01:00:11,813 --> 01:00:15,253
Speaker 22: had eleven who weren't wearing a life jacket at the time.

1266
01:00:15,293 --> 01:00:17,773
Speaker 22: I think the trick is no one expects to be

1267
01:00:17,853 --> 01:00:20,333
Speaker 22: in the water and be in trouble, and by the

1268
01:00:20,373 --> 01:00:24,253
Speaker 22: time you're in the water and in trouble, it's too

1269
01:00:24,293 --> 01:00:25,533
Speaker 22: late to find that life jacket.

1270
01:00:26,253 --> 01:00:28,813
Speaker 2: But that can that be blamed on regional by laws

1271
01:00:29,293 --> 01:00:32,133
Speaker 2: though don't most people know what's happening in the area.

1272
01:00:32,893 --> 01:00:35,733
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, I think that contributes to the confusion. I

1273
01:00:35,773 --> 01:00:39,253
Speaker 22: think there's also the national law stool, which is weak,

1274
01:00:39,333 --> 01:00:42,093
Speaker 22: and you know, it says that life jackets have to

1275
01:00:42,133 --> 01:00:45,293
Speaker 22: be carried and worn only when the skipper deems it

1276
01:00:45,413 --> 01:00:49,493
Speaker 22: necessary or in some slightly high risk or high risk areas,

1277
01:00:49,533 --> 01:00:52,373
Speaker 22: like when you're crossing a bar and stuff. So I

1278
01:00:52,413 --> 01:00:55,613
Speaker 22: think you know, what we're asking for is or seeking

1279
01:00:55,693 --> 01:00:59,013
Speaker 22: when the draft bill goes before the ZE Committee and

1280
01:00:59,053 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 22: then they do the deliberations. It is actually a common

1281
01:01:02,013 --> 01:01:04,693
Speaker 22: sense approach which would make it really easy for everyone

1282
01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:07,693
Speaker 22: to understand what they need to do. Ultimately, it is

1283
01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:11,413
Speaker 22: about behavior you change, and we think you'll get more

1284
01:01:11,453 --> 01:01:14,413
Speaker 22: of that if the law or a change law of

1285
01:01:14,493 --> 01:01:17,853
Speaker 22: plays to people who are over fifteen, not just those

1286
01:01:17,853 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 22: who are under it. And we think it's a great start,

1287
01:01:20,173 --> 01:01:22,373
Speaker 22: but we'd just love to see the opportunity to grab

1288
01:01:22,373 --> 01:01:25,053
Speaker 22: because it probably isn't. Once in a generation chance we

1289
01:01:25,133 --> 01:01:27,413
Speaker 22: saw it was the sworming paul fencing laws and that

1290
01:01:27,493 --> 01:01:29,453
Speaker 22: to our child around is by almost eighty percent.

1291
01:01:30,413 --> 01:01:33,213
Speaker 3: Do you think there is pressure on recreational skippers if

1292
01:01:33,253 --> 01:01:35,973
Speaker 3: they've got them on board as the regulation requires them,

1293
01:01:35,973 --> 01:01:37,693
Speaker 3: but then they ask their mates to maybe put on

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Speaker 3: a life jacket and get a bit of stick. Does

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Speaker 3: that still exist out there? Do you think?

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Speaker 23: Well?

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Speaker 22: I think you could probably apply that to many many

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01:01:44,533 --> 01:01:47,293
Speaker 22: social situations actually, and yeah, I think it probably does.

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Speaker 15: Look.

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Speaker 22: I was on Instagram this morning before work on looking

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01:01:51,653 --> 01:01:53,613
Speaker 22: at some pictures of an old work colleague who was

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01:01:53,973 --> 01:01:57,653
Speaker 22: out on holiday somewhere and all of the people on

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01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:00,573
Speaker 22: the boat none of them were in a life jacket,

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01:02:01,293 --> 01:02:05,413
Speaker 22: and I thought, ah gee, I wish you all had

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Speaker 22: a life jacket on.

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Speaker 17: That would be great.

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Speaker 22: I haven't measured them yet, probably will later.

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Speaker 2: As a blanket ban a bit blunt. What about when

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01:02:14,173 --> 01:02:16,093
Speaker 2: you're anchored in a bay and your kids are swimming

1310
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Speaker 2: off the boat?

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01:02:17,253 --> 01:02:19,853
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we're talking about what we're saying

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Speaker 22: it should be when diesels are underway.

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01:02:22,213 --> 01:02:22,413
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 22: So if you're if you're anchored, Arthur, if you're a porch,

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01:02:26,093 --> 01:02:28,733
Speaker 22: if you're in a berth, we're not saying you should

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Speaker 22: have a life jacket on. Then I think that makes

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01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:34,693
Speaker 22: reasonable sense. It is when you're out and out in

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01:02:34,733 --> 01:02:38,213
Speaker 22: the water and underway, because that's mostly when trouble occurs,

1319
01:02:38,613 --> 01:02:39,933
Speaker 22: when when boats are in motion.

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Speaker 2: Can you go back in Timelin and tell my dad that,

1321
01:02:42,373 --> 01:02:44,213
Speaker 2: because he used to make us put our life jackets

1322
01:02:44,253 --> 01:02:46,213
Speaker 2: on when we got out of the car before we'd

1323
01:02:46,213 --> 01:02:50,053
Speaker 2: even back the trailer, the trailer sailor into the water.

1324
01:02:50,693 --> 01:02:52,413
Speaker 22: He sounds like a very sensible berth.

1325
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Speaker 3: Good skipper took it seriously. Yeah, it's a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 2: As some big old orange life jackets back there, I

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01:02:58,533 --> 01:02:59,253
Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should have made your weather before you got

1329
01:03:01,013 --> 01:03:02,253
Speaker 3: in the car on the way to the boat ramp,

1330
01:03:02,293 --> 01:03:05,213
Speaker 3: to be honest as on too.

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01:03:05,373 --> 01:03:07,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, if he had his way, we'd

1332
01:03:07,133 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 2: have our life checkers on in the bar.

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01:03:08,373 --> 01:03:11,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, just on the You know, if this comes into legislation,

1334
01:03:11,493 --> 01:03:13,293
Speaker 3: what you're pushing for here, and obviously the bill is

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01:03:13,613 --> 01:03:16,453
Speaker 3: underway for the mandatory under fifteens to wear one. How

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Speaker 3: does that get policed? Are we talking fines here? If

1337
01:03:19,573 --> 01:03:21,853
Speaker 3: you are caught by I know coast Guard don't quite

1338
01:03:21,853 --> 01:03:24,533
Speaker 3: have those bowels. Maybe they do. How would you police that?

1339
01:03:25,293 --> 01:03:27,573
Speaker 22: Well, certainly it wouldn't be up to us the police,

1340
01:03:27,573 --> 01:03:29,493
Speaker 22: and we don't see it as a police center or

1341
01:03:29,533 --> 01:03:33,733
Speaker 22: the issuing of infringement notices type of approach. I think

1342
01:03:33,813 --> 01:03:36,293
Speaker 22: you're probably more looking if the law has changed and

1343
01:03:36,373 --> 01:03:40,813
Speaker 22: enacted that it's actually about education and information. And I

1344
01:03:40,813 --> 01:03:43,893
Speaker 22: don't think that as through any of the other parties

1345
01:03:43,933 --> 01:03:46,773
Speaker 22: who are asking for the bill to be changed as

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01:03:46,813 --> 01:03:52,173
Speaker 22: it goes through, anticipating squads of people out there issuing tickets.

1347
01:03:52,253 --> 01:03:55,173
Speaker 22: I don't think that's the way. I think it's going

1348
01:03:55,213 --> 01:03:59,293
Speaker 22: to be more through some investment in education, some investment

1349
01:03:59,333 --> 01:04:04,093
Speaker 22: in some lighte jackets and availability as opposed to that

1350
01:04:04,213 --> 01:04:07,373
Speaker 22: something is sort of you know, it is issuing fines.

1351
01:04:08,333 --> 01:04:12,453
Speaker 2: We're talking to Glenn Scanlon, Chief Executive Water Safety New Zealand.

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01:04:12,493 --> 01:04:14,293
Speaker 2: What sized boats are we talking about here? Just to

1353
01:04:14,333 --> 01:04:14,853
Speaker 2: make it clear.

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01:04:15,613 --> 01:04:19,493
Speaker 22: Yeah, well, so the bill is talking about boats six

1355
01:04:19,573 --> 01:04:21,573
Speaker 22: meters or less. We would actually like it to be

1356
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Speaker 22: on all recreational crop crafts and look, Coast Guard New

1357
01:04:25,173 --> 01:04:27,853
Speaker 22: Zealand's lined up with us on that too, and I

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01:04:27,853 --> 01:04:29,693
Speaker 22: think probably quite a few people will. It just makes

1359
01:04:29,693 --> 01:04:33,693
Speaker 22: it simpler and easier to understand what do you mean.

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Speaker 2: By a recreational clas craft? Are we talking a big

1361
01:04:36,893 --> 01:04:37,453
Speaker 2: old launch?

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Speaker 22: So look, that's in your own ownership, So it's not

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Speaker 22: The definition is not one that I understand completely, to

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Speaker 22: be honest, But that is in your own ownership. It's

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01:04:49,173 --> 01:04:54,973
Speaker 22: not a sort of a business owned. Is my understanding,

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01:04:54,973 --> 01:04:56,453
Speaker 22: but I'd have to probably go and check because I

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01:04:56,453 --> 01:04:57,613
Speaker 22: don't have the exact definition.

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Speaker 3: Glenn. It's been really great having a chat with you.

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01:05:01,093 --> 01:05:03,093
Speaker 3: It's very interesting and we're getting a lot of texts

1370
01:05:03,173 --> 01:05:07,133
Speaker 3: coming through the are they looking Look, I think you're

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01:05:07,133 --> 01:05:09,133
Speaker 3: getting a lot of support, but then there's a bit

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01:05:09,173 --> 01:05:11,053
Speaker 3: of pushback as well to be fear Glenn, And that's

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01:05:11,133 --> 01:05:12,893
Speaker 3: that's kind of what we like. We like a good debate.

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Speaker 2: We'll hang on this.

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01:05:13,653 --> 01:05:16,453
Speaker 22: One and look, she will be debate and they should be.

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01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:21,173
Speaker 2: Which is one second, this person says life jackets. I

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01:05:21,213 --> 01:05:23,893
Speaker 2: would go further and mandate crotch straps on all life

1378
01:05:23,973 --> 01:05:27,693
Speaker 2: beckets and floatation vests. A British tourist, a girl's body

1379
01:05:27,733 --> 01:05:31,253
Speaker 2: was lost for days as she raised her arms to

1380
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,693
Speaker 2: her rescuers, but slipped out of her life jacket because

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01:05:33,773 --> 01:05:36,653
Speaker 2: no crotch strap. So where do you sit on crotch

1382
01:05:36,693 --> 01:05:37,813
Speaker 2: straps part of the pun?

1383
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:42,533
Speaker 22: Oh, Look, they're quite highly advised by a lot of groups,

1384
01:05:42,893 --> 01:05:47,333
Speaker 22: and certainly Coastguard suggest them in quite a lot of situations.

1385
01:05:47,333 --> 01:05:48,573
Speaker 22: So it's sensible.

1386
01:05:48,973 --> 01:05:50,813
Speaker 2: What about this one? So we need a lord to

1387
01:05:50,893 --> 01:05:55,013
Speaker 2: keep your family and yourself safe. Society is stupid, Laws

1388
01:05:55,053 --> 01:05:57,933
Speaker 2: are stupid. People are dumb. That's from Ryan. So that's

1389
01:05:57,973 --> 01:05:59,493
Speaker 2: that's that we're giving you a spectrum here.

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01:06:00,493 --> 01:06:01,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you are.

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01:06:01,493 --> 01:06:07,293
Speaker 22: Look, I think Look, societies often make decisions to put

1392
01:06:07,373 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 22: in place rules that help people overall. Sometimes they choose

1393
01:06:11,173 --> 01:06:13,173
Speaker 22: not to, sometimes they choose to, and we've done that

1394
01:06:13,253 --> 01:06:15,533
Speaker 22: in the past for example a round seat belts and

1395
01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:17,773
Speaker 22: bull fencing laws and they have made a massive difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Glenn, it's very interesting and we're going to open

1397
01:06:20,973 --> 01:06:23,293
Speaker 3: up the phone lines now, but really appreciate you coming

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01:06:23,333 --> 01:06:25,253
Speaker 3: on and having a chat with us.

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Speaker 22: No pleasure, have a good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you two, you do great work. That is Glenn Scanlon,

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01:06:29,813 --> 01:06:32,013
Speaker 3: the chief executive of Water Safety New Zealand. And of

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01:06:32,053 --> 01:06:34,613
Speaker 3: course we are taking your thoughts on this mandatory life

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01:06:34,733 --> 01:06:38,133
Speaker 3: jackets for everyone on a recreational boat. What do you say,

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01:06:38,213 --> 01:06:40,573
Speaker 3: yay or nay? Love to hear from you, Matt.

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01:06:40,613 --> 01:06:42,413
Speaker 2: The fact your dad made you put your life jacket

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01:06:42,413 --> 01:06:44,413
Speaker 2: on immediately when you go to the car possibly says

1407
01:06:44,413 --> 01:06:46,253
Speaker 2: more about you at the time rather than your father.

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01:06:46,333 --> 01:06:46,773
Speaker 2: That's true.

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01:06:46,773 --> 01:06:48,293
Speaker 3: I was I agree, I was the only one.

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01:06:48,373 --> 01:06:51,133
Speaker 2: I was a trouble trip. There was always a problem.

1411
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,413
Speaker 2: There was always an issue. There was always something stupid

1412
01:06:53,413 --> 01:06:55,813
Speaker 2: being done. There was something being unhooked, there was something

1413
01:06:55,853 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 2: being thrown overboard, there was always a problem.

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01:06:58,133 --> 01:06:59,693
Speaker 3: I'm restrained that.

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Speaker 2: It was more of a straight jacket type situation.

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01:07:01,813 --> 01:07:05,773
Speaker 3: Eighteen to three, the issues that affect you and a

1417
01:07:05,773 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 3: bit of fun along the way.

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01:07:07,213 --> 01:07:10,373
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler after News Talk.

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01:07:10,213 --> 01:07:12,653
Speaker 3: Said it is a quarter to three. We're talking about

1420
01:07:12,853 --> 01:07:15,813
Speaker 3: mandatory life jackets for everybody water safety in New Zealand

1421
01:07:15,853 --> 01:07:17,773
Speaker 3: and calling for that. What do you say, one hundred

1422
01:07:17,773 --> 01:07:19,733
Speaker 3: and eighteen eighty to number Craig, welcome the show.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this?

1424
01:07:21,933 --> 01:07:25,973
Speaker 24: Yeah, okay, guys, Like I'm against it, you know, for

1425
01:07:26,093 --> 01:07:29,213
Speaker 24: for a number of reasons. Actually, I'm yachtie myself, and

1426
01:07:29,493 --> 01:07:32,493
Speaker 24: you know, I'm a skipper. I've got a season, I've

1427
01:07:32,533 --> 01:07:36,493
Speaker 24: got and you know I I take the responsibility of

1428
01:07:36,493 --> 01:07:41,733
Speaker 24: my crew pretty seriously. But I think that by making

1429
01:07:41,733 --> 01:07:45,373
Speaker 24: it mandatory, you're taking away the last sort of bastion

1430
01:07:45,773 --> 01:07:49,133
Speaker 24: of choice. Really, like when you go out on the water,

1431
01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:50,893
Speaker 24: you're away from.

1432
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:52,013
Speaker 17: All the rules and the laws.

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01:07:52,093 --> 01:07:54,933
Speaker 24: And you know, we don't have licenses on our boats,

1434
01:07:54,933 --> 01:07:57,653
Speaker 24: which is another really good thing. Like I'm a boat

1435
01:07:57,693 --> 01:08:00,573
Speaker 24: master and a yacht master, but I'm dead against also

1436
01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:04,853
Speaker 24: having licenses on boats on pleasure craft like they do

1437
01:08:04,933 --> 01:08:09,893
Speaker 24: in Australia. And you know, with regard to lifejackets, I

1438
01:08:10,213 --> 01:08:13,853
Speaker 24: just think it's it's choice. Leave us to choose and

1439
01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:17,893
Speaker 24: make those decisions ourselves. Don't force us to wear lifejackets.

1440
01:08:17,933 --> 01:08:21,333
Speaker 24: You know, A good example is you know this Sunday

1441
01:08:21,412 --> 01:08:24,173
Speaker 24: is going to be beautiful, there's not going to be

1442
01:08:24,452 --> 01:08:27,852
Speaker 24: any wind day. You're out during the day, why would

1443
01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:30,412
Speaker 24: you why would you wear lifejackets? You know you can

1444
01:08:30,492 --> 01:08:33,852
Speaker 24: see everything. You're traveling at a slow speed. If you

1445
01:08:33,973 --> 01:08:37,213
Speaker 24: fall over, then you know, if you fall off the side,

1446
01:08:37,253 --> 01:08:39,213
Speaker 24: then there's a guy turns around and comes to get you.

1447
01:08:39,492 --> 01:08:40,612
Speaker 24: I don't really see.

1448
01:08:40,412 --> 01:08:43,812
Speaker 2: Any curse as a skipper, Craig. Are there times when

1449
01:08:43,853 --> 01:08:47,333
Speaker 2: you insist that people on board put on life jackets?

1450
01:08:48,213 --> 01:08:53,173
Speaker 24: Absolutely? Yeah, at night we always wear life beckets at

1451
01:08:53,253 --> 01:08:56,612
Speaker 24: night because it's a lot harder to spot somebody when

1452
01:08:56,652 --> 01:09:00,732
Speaker 24: they go overboard at night. Also the conditions as well,

1453
01:09:00,812 --> 01:09:03,732
Speaker 24: like if it's really really rough. It's generally my rule

1454
01:09:03,732 --> 01:09:07,333
Speaker 24: of summer Soviet twenty nine. I make the crew where

1455
01:09:07,412 --> 01:09:11,732
Speaker 24: a life checkert particular, we're running the gear like running

1456
01:09:11,732 --> 01:09:15,852
Speaker 24: spinnakers off the bow like you know, but when you

1457
01:09:15,853 --> 01:09:17,813
Speaker 24: go out of the cop but if you're if you're

1458
01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:20,972
Speaker 24: if you're on the crew, I make the guys real

1459
01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:23,093
Speaker 24: life it because there's there's a higher risk of your

1460
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:27,173
Speaker 24: getting knocked over. But it's just it's I think I

1461
01:09:27,213 --> 01:09:31,492
Speaker 24: think taking that decision away from skippers. Is just it's

1462
01:09:31,532 --> 01:09:34,333
Speaker 24: impinging on our on our rights, and it's and for me,

1463
01:09:35,133 --> 01:09:38,892
Speaker 24: the sea is the last the last bastion of our

1464
01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:40,852
Speaker 24: our personal freedom.

1465
01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:41,173
Speaker 20: Right.

1466
01:09:41,213 --> 01:09:45,293
Speaker 24: You don't have to there's no speed limits you you know,

1467
01:09:45,532 --> 01:09:48,213
Speaker 24: you get to do what you want. You're the only

1468
01:09:48,253 --> 01:09:49,852
Speaker 24: real of our life.

1469
01:09:50,013 --> 01:09:52,173
Speaker 2: You're a salty old You're a salty old sea dog,

1470
01:09:52,213 --> 01:09:59,053
Speaker 2: aren't you great? It's in your blood. But so you're

1471
01:09:59,053 --> 01:10:02,772
Speaker 2: a knowledgeable skipper. You're thinking about things, you know what's

1472
01:10:02,893 --> 01:10:05,572
Speaker 2: right and wrong. But you you must have seen the

1473
01:10:05,572 --> 01:10:07,692
Speaker 2: amount of muppets that are out on the water doing

1474
01:10:07,853 --> 01:10:11,852
Speaker 2: stupid stuff and getting themselves into trouble. So do you

1475
01:10:11,893 --> 01:10:14,852
Speaker 2: think that this law is a blanket rule rule to

1476
01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:17,133
Speaker 2: try and save people that don't know what they're doing

1477
01:10:17,173 --> 01:10:17,572
Speaker 2: out there.

1478
01:10:18,893 --> 01:10:20,852
Speaker 24: But the thing is the markets won't listen to that

1479
01:10:20,933 --> 01:10:24,892
Speaker 24: rule anyways. You know, you know, you're kind of it's

1480
01:10:24,933 --> 01:10:26,892
Speaker 24: like the tar wagging the dog. Right, you're making a

1481
01:10:26,973 --> 01:10:30,013
Speaker 24: law to try and stop people from being stupid, But

1482
01:10:30,253 --> 01:10:32,573
Speaker 24: you know people are still going to be stupid regardless.

1483
01:10:32,692 --> 01:10:35,492
Speaker 24: You know, you know a lot of people won't we'll

1484
01:10:35,532 --> 01:10:38,532
Speaker 24: just refuse to wear their life tackers. I certainly wouldn't

1485
01:10:38,612 --> 01:10:40,932
Speaker 24: change anything if there was a blanket rule, I would

1486
01:10:40,973 --> 01:10:46,933
Speaker 24: still continue to make the decision as per normal, and

1487
01:10:46,973 --> 01:10:49,092
Speaker 24: I would think that most of those these would anyway.

1488
01:10:49,093 --> 01:10:51,612
Speaker 24: Most bodies are pretty good, to be honest, you know,

1489
01:10:51,933 --> 01:10:54,933
Speaker 24: they're pretty responsible. They don't need to be told what

1490
01:10:55,013 --> 01:10:55,293
Speaker 24: to do.

1491
01:10:55,572 --> 01:10:59,253
Speaker 2: Well, most bodies are craig. But surely must be able

1492
01:10:59,253 --> 01:11:01,852
Speaker 2: to describe what's the stupidest thing that you see out

1493
01:11:01,853 --> 01:11:03,812
Speaker 2: there on the water that people do?

1494
01:11:04,973 --> 01:11:06,933
Speaker 24: What's the what do you.

1495
01:11:08,412 --> 01:11:08,572
Speaker 18: Well?

1496
01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:13,412
Speaker 24: I think you know it's probably knew me. Like you know,

1497
01:11:13,492 --> 01:11:16,492
Speaker 24: you've you've come into a ton of money and you

1498
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:18,732
Speaker 24: go and you buy your forty foot ribs and you've

1499
01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:22,333
Speaker 24: got absolutely no bloody idea and you learn everything the

1500
01:11:22,372 --> 01:11:25,452
Speaker 24: hard way. There's some pretty funny, funny things that happened,

1501
01:11:25,492 --> 01:11:28,133
Speaker 24: but they could also be dangerous. But that's just I

1502
01:11:28,133 --> 01:11:30,452
Speaker 24: don't know. I think I think you're taking away that

1503
01:11:30,612 --> 01:11:33,452
Speaker 24: last opportunity for people to just kind of learn by

1504
01:11:33,652 --> 01:11:34,773
Speaker 24: making their own mistakes.

1505
01:11:34,933 --> 01:11:39,772
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, obviously, sorry you carry on. I was

1506
01:11:39,812 --> 01:11:41,293
Speaker 3: just going to say, I mean, look, most most of

1507
01:11:41,293 --> 01:11:44,132
Speaker 3: the laws we have in this country, it's it's there

1508
01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:47,092
Speaker 3: to sort out the dumbasses of society. It's just reality,

1509
01:11:47,173 --> 01:11:50,092
Speaker 3: right that most of us know how to operate safely,

1510
01:11:50,173 --> 01:11:52,293
Speaker 3: like seepbouts and not drink when we're driving and all

1511
01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:54,253
Speaker 3: the rest of it. So the laws out there are

1512
01:11:54,253 --> 01:11:57,052
Speaker 3: to protect the idiots in life. And it's the same

1513
01:11:57,133 --> 01:12:00,932
Speaker 3: with the life jacket thing. But the idea of a license, Craig,

1514
01:12:01,013 --> 01:12:02,692
Speaker 3: and not so much of a license, but you know,

1515
01:12:03,133 --> 01:12:05,812
Speaker 3: mandatory day skip of course before you go out on

1516
01:12:05,853 --> 01:12:07,372
Speaker 3: the water. Would that be a better way to do

1517
01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:10,293
Speaker 3: it so that the people and people who become skippers

1518
01:12:10,333 --> 01:12:13,293
Speaker 3: they know if anything goes wrong, you're in deep, deep

1519
01:12:13,293 --> 01:12:14,692
Speaker 3: trouble and it's on you as skipper.

1520
01:12:15,933 --> 01:12:16,093
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1521
01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:18,892
Speaker 24: Look, I think doing a mandatory day skipper's cause is

1522
01:12:18,893 --> 01:12:21,173
Speaker 24: a good thing. It's pretty easy to do. You can

1523
01:12:21,213 --> 01:12:24,893
Speaker 24: do it online, you know, coast Guard you said, a

1524
01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:28,852
Speaker 24: coast Guard offers fabulous courses online, so it's very easy

1525
01:12:28,893 --> 01:12:29,053
Speaker 24: to do.

1526
01:12:30,133 --> 01:12:30,333
Speaker 3: Both.

1527
01:12:30,412 --> 01:12:33,293
Speaker 24: My boys have done it, you know. And then and

1528
01:12:33,333 --> 01:12:36,492
Speaker 24: then you may find it and people will find interest

1529
01:12:36,492 --> 01:12:38,372
Speaker 24: in it and then go on to maybe do a

1530
01:12:38,372 --> 01:12:41,692
Speaker 24: boat master, become more you know, and and you learn

1531
01:12:41,732 --> 01:12:45,612
Speaker 24: a lot by doing those those horses and the tutors goods.

1532
01:12:45,933 --> 01:12:51,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, Craig's speaking of salty. Do you mind

1533
01:12:51,293 --> 01:12:54,012
Speaker 2: if I introduced you to some of the salty feedback

1534
01:12:54,013 --> 01:12:56,092
Speaker 2: that we get on the text back on the text

1535
01:12:56,133 --> 01:12:57,452
Speaker 2: machine on nine two nineteen.

1536
01:12:58,133 --> 01:13:02,253
Speaker 24: I'm sure I'm getting I'm sure I'm for it.

1537
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:06,972
Speaker 2: Craig sounds like a wally. This Dexta starts these kind

1538
01:13:07,013 --> 01:13:09,972
Speaker 2: of guys, always desperate for some sort of imaginary freedom,

1539
01:13:10,412 --> 01:13:16,492
Speaker 2: freedom dot dot dot idiot. Craig, A man, what do

1540
01:13:16,532 --> 01:13:16,973
Speaker 2: you say to that?

1541
01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:19,052
Speaker 24: Where do I? Where do I start?

1542
01:13:19,253 --> 01:13:19,452
Speaker 25: Right?

1543
01:13:20,732 --> 01:13:22,213
Speaker 17: Just leave us alone?

1544
01:13:22,492 --> 01:13:24,132
Speaker 24: You know where everything's fine?

1545
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:24,372
Speaker 1: Right?

1546
01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:27,652
Speaker 24: You didn't you told you're not going to change if

1547
01:13:27,692 --> 01:13:30,892
Speaker 24: you make a mandatory rule on life jackets because half

1548
01:13:30,973 --> 01:13:34,732
Speaker 24: to three going to listen anyway. Yeah, I just don't think.

1549
01:13:36,333 --> 01:13:39,572
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your opinion, Craigay, Look,

1550
01:13:39,572 --> 01:13:41,932
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pushback on what Craig has to say.

1551
01:13:42,572 --> 01:13:44,452
Speaker 3: Come on through I one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1552
01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:46,692
Speaker 2: To tell you what what I would say about Craig is,

1553
01:13:46,732 --> 01:13:48,532
Speaker 2: if he's the skipper of your boat, you're probably going

1554
01:13:48,612 --> 01:13:51,173
Speaker 2: to be safer than on most boats that you're on.

1555
01:13:51,293 --> 01:13:53,372
Speaker 3: Exactly. I'll definitely go out with Craig. He sounds a

1556
01:13:53,412 --> 01:13:53,772
Speaker 3: good man.

1557
01:13:53,973 --> 01:13:58,452
Speaker 2: The problem is the large amount of absolute morons out there.

1558
01:13:58,652 --> 01:14:00,652
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of them. Our eight hundred and

1559
01:14:00,692 --> 01:14:02,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It is

1560
01:14:02,532 --> 01:14:03,972
Speaker 3: eight minutes to three, beg very.

1561
01:14:03,812 --> 01:14:07,333
Speaker 1: Shortly, the issues that affect you, and a bit of

1562
01:14:07,372 --> 01:14:11,293
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

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01:14:11,173 --> 01:14:15,572
Speaker 3: Talk said, we're talking about mandatory life jackets. Nineteen nine

1564
01:14:15,572 --> 01:14:16,493
Speaker 3: two is a text.

1565
01:14:17,893 --> 01:14:19,293
Speaker 2: Len had to turn your microphone and these are the

1566
01:14:19,333 --> 01:14:20,173
Speaker 2: muppets we're talking about.

1567
01:14:20,173 --> 01:14:20,412
Speaker 5: Out there.

1568
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:22,013
Speaker 2: People can't even turn their microphone on like that.

1569
01:14:22,093 --> 01:14:23,652
Speaker 3: We need a law for that. We need some fines

1570
01:14:23,732 --> 01:14:24,093
Speaker 3: going on.

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01:14:24,173 --> 01:14:26,213
Speaker 2: If you see me with the captain's hat on, just

1572
01:14:26,253 --> 01:14:28,932
Speaker 2: don't get on the boat. Life jacket or not. James says,

1573
01:14:29,253 --> 01:14:31,612
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the crotch strap. You know, that's

1574
01:14:31,612 --> 01:14:33,732
Speaker 2: the one that goes under so you can't slip out

1575
01:14:33,732 --> 01:14:35,732
Speaker 2: of your your life jacket. Makes sense, but I guess

1576
01:14:35,772 --> 01:14:38,692
Speaker 2: it depends on what scale you're running down there on

1577
01:14:38,853 --> 01:14:43,053
Speaker 2: medium round the round the chest x x x x

1578
01:14:43,253 --> 01:14:44,692
Speaker 2: L down below. Well, thanks for.

1579
01:14:44,692 --> 01:14:47,213
Speaker 3: Sharing, James, Yeah, good on you mate, well done. It's

1580
01:14:47,213 --> 01:14:50,732
Speaker 3: something to be proud or loose your thoughts.

1581
01:14:51,893 --> 01:14:52,732
Speaker 24: Yeah, modey, you live.

1582
01:14:52,853 --> 01:14:53,293
Speaker 7: Change is here.

1583
01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:57,612
Speaker 19: Craig points here, Well, I've had a couple of mates

1584
01:14:57,772 --> 01:15:01,212
Speaker 19: all over over the board that night. Life jackets die,

1585
01:15:01,692 --> 01:15:07,493
Speaker 19: you know the Jones. Don't forget you can't get out walk.

1586
01:15:07,812 --> 01:15:09,572
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1587
01:15:10,893 --> 01:15:12,892
Speaker 19: And if you're miles away from whatever you think you're

1588
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:14,933
Speaker 19: fitting everything else, you try swimming for about three or

1589
01:15:14,933 --> 01:15:15,372
Speaker 19: four days.

1590
01:15:15,372 --> 01:15:17,932
Speaker 2: Aldo you meant sorry to hear about sorry to hear

1591
01:15:17,933 --> 01:15:20,412
Speaker 2: about your mates loose, that's that's there must be rough.

1592
01:15:21,492 --> 01:15:23,492
Speaker 19: Oh yes, that was years and years ago, but it's

1593
01:15:23,812 --> 01:15:26,772
Speaker 19: experience and that's what we know now. Don't play that

1594
01:15:26,853 --> 01:15:27,333
Speaker 19: card again.

1595
01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:29,893
Speaker 3: One hundred percent and so true. You know, like a

1596
01:15:29,933 --> 01:15:31,812
Speaker 3: lot of people on boats are not wearing life jacket's

1597
01:15:31,853 --> 01:15:34,492
Speaker 3: got jeans on and clothes that weigh them down. And

1598
01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:36,892
Speaker 3: you're just you know, if it's stormy weather and seas,

1599
01:15:37,133 --> 01:15:38,852
Speaker 3: you're not lasting long with our life jacket.

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01:15:39,973 --> 01:15:41,852
Speaker 19: Yeah right, you know what understand that's what happens to

1601
01:15:42,133 --> 01:15:45,213
Speaker 19: a storm. And you know, look big enough pencil, they

1602
01:15:45,372 --> 01:15:46,412
Speaker 19: just went over the side.

1603
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:49,173
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. We call loose. But we've

1604
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:50,892
Speaker 2: got to go to the news headlines. So we've got

1605
01:15:50,933 --> 01:15:53,492
Speaker 2: a bit backed up here. So should we continue on

1606
01:15:53,572 --> 01:15:55,253
Speaker 2: with this after three o'clock.

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01:15:54,893 --> 01:15:56,772
Speaker 3: Tile I reckon We're going to give the people what

1608
01:15:56,812 --> 01:15:58,492
Speaker 3: they want and plenty of people want to have a chat.

1609
01:15:58,532 --> 01:16:00,412
Speaker 3: But can you hear from you? Oh, eight hundred eighty

1610
01:16:00,532 --> 01:16:03,812
Speaker 3: ten eighty compulsory life jackets? Are you for that? Or

1611
01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:05,652
Speaker 3: again it if you want to send a text? Nine

1612
01:16:05,732 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 3: two ninety two is that number? Really keen to hear

1613
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:11,772
Speaker 3: from you? New Sport and weather is fast approaching. I

1614
01:16:11,772 --> 01:16:14,732
Speaker 3: hope you're having a great Friday afternoons. Stay right here.

1615
01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:16,452
Speaker 3: We will be back very shortly.

1616
01:16:18,492 --> 01:16:24,533
Speaker 1: Got you your new home are in stateful and entertaining

1617
01:16:24,652 --> 01:16:29,652
Speaker 1: talk It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk Sevvy.

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01:16:30,532 --> 01:16:32,812
Speaker 3: We'll get out of you. Welcome back into the show.

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01:16:33,093 --> 01:16:37,772
Speaker 2: We're just twenty three minutes away. Now, let's say thirty

1620
01:16:37,772 --> 01:16:40,532
Speaker 2: minutes away from the New Zealand of the Week we

1621
01:16:41,213 --> 01:16:44,053
Speaker 2: coveted Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealand of

1622
01:16:44,053 --> 01:16:46,333
Speaker 2: the Week award that we give to a great New

1623
01:16:46,412 --> 01:16:47,812
Speaker 2: Zealander every Friday.

1624
01:16:47,893 --> 01:16:50,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the moment New Zealand waits for and it's

1625
01:16:50,372 --> 01:16:54,853
Speaker 3: not far away. So is this still time for submissions?

1626
01:16:55,013 --> 01:16:55,173
Speaker 2: No?

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01:16:55,452 --> 01:16:58,532
Speaker 3: Okay, so submissions have closed coast Yeah, yeah, the judges

1628
01:16:58,572 --> 01:17:01,173
Speaker 3: have decided and it's going to be announced about twenty

1629
01:17:01,173 --> 01:17:03,532
Speaker 3: five minutes. Looking forward to that, right, we are carrying

1630
01:17:03,572 --> 01:17:06,892
Speaker 3: on this discussion about mandatory life jacket. So to bring

1631
01:17:06,933 --> 01:17:09,372
Speaker 3: you up to speed, there's a bell that's now open

1632
01:17:09,412 --> 01:17:12,532
Speaker 3: for public submissions that would make it mandatory for life

1633
01:17:12,572 --> 01:17:15,532
Speaker 3: jackets for anyone under fifteen. What a safety In New Zealand,

1634
01:17:15,612 --> 01:17:18,013
Speaker 3: they say, now's the time to go full hog, a

1635
01:17:18,133 --> 01:17:21,772
Speaker 3: universal nationwide rule requiring people of all ages to wear

1636
01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:25,532
Speaker 3: life jackets on recreational boats and watercraft. So they say, well,

1637
01:17:25,532 --> 01:17:29,732
Speaker 3: I've got the stats. Actually, so between twenty twenty twenty four,

1638
01:17:29,732 --> 01:17:31,933
Speaker 3: more than three hundred and twenty people drowned in a

1639
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:34,293
Speaker 3: boat or craft incident who are not wearing a life

1640
01:17:34,372 --> 01:17:37,293
Speaker 3: jacket and they reckon. Twelve lives could be saved every

1641
01:17:37,412 --> 01:17:39,012
Speaker 3: year if this law came to pass.

1642
01:17:39,492 --> 01:17:41,732
Speaker 2: So the Sticks asks, hey, guys, can you find out

1643
01:17:41,812 --> 01:17:44,133
Speaker 2: how many people actually drown in a boat through not

1644
01:17:44,173 --> 01:17:45,972
Speaker 2: wearing a life jacket. It seems to me that half

1645
01:17:46,013 --> 01:17:48,053
Speaker 2: the people that drown fall off the rocks. They're not

1646
01:17:48,093 --> 01:17:50,012
Speaker 2: even on a boat. Whenever I'm out in the raft,

1647
01:17:50,013 --> 01:17:52,213
Speaker 2: it appears to me that lots of people have life

1648
01:17:52,253 --> 01:17:54,892
Speaker 2: jackets on if it's a calm lots of people don't.

1649
01:17:55,612 --> 01:17:57,892
Speaker 2: As Craig said, most people use their own judgment as

1650
01:17:57,893 --> 01:18:00,053
Speaker 2: to whether you should wear one or not, and most

1651
01:18:00,093 --> 01:18:04,092
Speaker 2: people probably don't come unstuck. However, if they're falling off rocks,

1652
01:18:04,452 --> 01:18:05,372
Speaker 2: it probably won't help.

1653
01:18:06,213 --> 01:18:08,452
Speaker 3: So the stats in front of us right now from

1654
01:18:08,492 --> 01:18:11,333
Speaker 3: water safety to New Zealand this year ten people have

1655
01:18:11,412 --> 01:18:14,772
Speaker 3: drowned on boats or other craft without wearing a life jacket.

1656
01:18:14,812 --> 01:18:16,972
Speaker 3: So that's ten on a boat or a craft which

1657
01:18:16,973 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 3: would be a water ski, etc. But it doesn't you're

1658
01:18:19,973 --> 01:18:21,732
Speaker 3: quite right, It doesn't give the facts on those who

1659
01:18:21,772 --> 01:18:26,452
Speaker 3: fall off the rocks. So they've drowned without life jackets,

1660
01:18:26,492 --> 01:18:29,492
Speaker 3: without life jackets. Yeah, yeah, so you know, I'm just

1661
01:18:29,692 --> 01:18:32,852
Speaker 3: stat's always interesting. So they've drowned without life jackets. But

1662
01:18:32,973 --> 01:18:35,133
Speaker 3: have they confirmed that they would have survived if they

1663
01:18:35,133 --> 01:18:37,732
Speaker 3: did have life jackets? No, they have not. Yeah, which

1664
01:18:37,812 --> 01:18:39,812
Speaker 3: is a good point. But can you get your thoughts

1665
01:18:39,812 --> 01:18:41,253
Speaker 3: on this? I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1666
01:18:41,253 --> 01:18:44,572
Speaker 3: If you're a boaty, how strict are you on making

1667
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:46,692
Speaker 3: your passengers wear life jackets? And is it a good

1668
01:18:46,692 --> 01:18:47,532
Speaker 3: idea to mandate it?

1669
01:18:48,372 --> 01:18:51,652
Speaker 2: Guys I'm from Apata and we launched straight into the

1670
01:18:51,692 --> 01:18:56,093
Speaker 2: Tasman off Shipwreck Bay. Everyone takes safety very seriously, and

1671
01:18:56,173 --> 01:18:59,412
Speaker 2: I don't have too many muppets around here. They seem

1672
01:18:59,452 --> 01:19:04,093
Speaker 2: to be a bit closer to the cities. I would say, okay, God, Stephen, right,

1673
01:19:05,412 --> 01:19:07,892
Speaker 2: is that true that closer to the cities there's more

1674
01:19:08,013 --> 01:19:09,652
Speaker 2: muppet out on the water. I mean there's probably just

1675
01:19:09,732 --> 01:19:12,932
Speaker 2: more people out on the water, so yeah, I mean.

1676
01:19:12,933 --> 01:19:15,492
Speaker 3: Judging by the ramp activity, I'd say, yeah, there's probably

1677
01:19:15,492 --> 01:19:16,133
Speaker 3: a lot of truth in that.

1678
01:19:16,452 --> 01:19:18,973
Speaker 2: Well, yes, Craig was saying there, you know, close to

1679
01:19:19,013 --> 01:19:21,772
Speaker 2: the cities, you're quite likely to see people that have

1680
01:19:22,652 --> 01:19:25,013
Speaker 2: got a bit of money and just bought themselves a

1681
01:19:25,053 --> 01:19:26,892
Speaker 2: bit of a state of symbol boat heating out there.

1682
01:19:27,013 --> 01:19:28,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, more dollars and cents.

1683
01:19:28,253 --> 01:19:32,052
Speaker 2: Yep, that kind of situation. What about that great story

1684
01:19:32,133 --> 01:19:36,572
Speaker 2: was turned into a TV show with the locals? Where

1685
01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:39,652
Speaker 2: was that? It was up north? The locals noticing some

1686
01:19:39,732 --> 01:19:43,572
Speaker 2: people that were terrible and absolutely useless with I believe

1687
01:19:43,572 --> 01:19:46,213
Speaker 2: it was the sea legs. Maybe I'm wrong, but a

1688
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:48,852
Speaker 2: very fresh boat. And the locals were like, how can

1689
01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:51,253
Speaker 2: these people be so useless with the boat? This doesn't

1690
01:19:51,293 --> 01:19:54,093
Speaker 2: make any sense. And then more investigation it turned out

1691
01:19:54,133 --> 01:19:56,933
Speaker 2: they were, you know, picking up meth drops off of

1692
01:19:57,093 --> 01:19:59,732
Speaker 2: sure so in their system they had a lot of

1693
01:20:00,253 --> 01:20:02,412
Speaker 2: you know, they were cash rich. They bought a flash boat,

1694
01:20:02,492 --> 01:20:05,293
Speaker 2: but the people that were operating the boat. I'll find

1695
01:20:05,293 --> 01:20:06,852
Speaker 2: out the details. There's a book about it. There's a

1696
01:20:06,853 --> 01:20:09,892
Speaker 2: great TV series that out starring Robin Malcolm about it

1697
01:20:09,893 --> 01:20:10,213
Speaker 2: as well.

1698
01:20:10,333 --> 01:20:13,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, Good Drug Dealer is Terrible Bodies. Oh eight hundred

1699
01:20:13,253 --> 01:20:14,892
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number?

1700
01:20:15,013 --> 01:20:18,973
Speaker 2: Call bell? Your thoughts on life jackets in these in

1701
01:20:19,013 --> 01:20:21,412
Speaker 2: this proposal, Well, I.

1702
01:20:21,372 --> 01:20:24,253
Speaker 17: Think they should be mandatory, But there's something that Craig

1703
01:20:24,652 --> 01:20:27,652
Speaker 17: didn't really think about. Like he says, when they get

1704
01:20:27,732 --> 01:20:29,692
Speaker 17: knocked off the boat, we'll just turn around and go

1705
01:20:29,772 --> 01:20:32,692
Speaker 17: back and get them. Well, what happens if he's knocked

1706
01:20:32,732 --> 01:20:35,333
Speaker 17: out and he's unconscious in the water by the time

1707
01:20:35,372 --> 01:20:39,012
Speaker 17: they've stopped this bloody great yacht turned around or turned

1708
01:20:39,013 --> 01:20:40,972
Speaker 17: around to go back and get him, the guy's drought.

1709
01:20:42,133 --> 01:20:45,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was saying though that he would be

1710
01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:48,253
Speaker 2: he would if there's if the conditions are rough at all,

1711
01:20:49,093 --> 01:20:51,692
Speaker 2: then then he makes even on the boats, we're a

1712
01:20:51,732 --> 01:20:55,413
Speaker 2: life jacket, So I guess.

1713
01:20:54,333 --> 01:20:57,333
Speaker 17: That's assuming it's rough. But if he does attack and

1714
01:20:57,372 --> 01:20:59,492
Speaker 17: this guy gets hit by the boom and goes over

1715
01:20:59,532 --> 01:21:01,812
Speaker 17: the side, it's not rough. He won't have a life

1716
01:21:01,853 --> 01:21:05,213
Speaker 17: jacket on. He's going to drown, simple as that, would

1717
01:21:05,213 --> 01:21:05,452
Speaker 17: he not?

1718
01:21:05,612 --> 01:21:08,932
Speaker 3: I mean nothing, yeah, yeah, but he kind of sounds

1719
01:21:08,933 --> 01:21:10,852
Speaker 3: like the guy. I imagine he's got a lifesaver on

1720
01:21:10,933 --> 01:21:13,612
Speaker 3: board that he might jump at himself in that situation

1721
01:21:13,652 --> 01:21:15,412
Speaker 3: because he is a skipper. You know, skipper's have a

1722
01:21:15,452 --> 01:21:16,372
Speaker 3: responsibility that.

1723
01:21:16,973 --> 01:21:19,812
Speaker 2: Saying, what if Craigs knocked himself unconscious? Are you saying

1724
01:21:19,812 --> 01:21:21,892
Speaker 2: Craig knocked himself unconscious or the person in the water,

1725
01:21:22,652 --> 01:21:26,093
Speaker 2: the person in the water? I see, Sorry, sorry I

1726
01:21:26,772 --> 01:21:29,412
Speaker 2: totally misunderstood you, Bill. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, So they're just

1727
01:21:29,652 --> 01:21:32,412
Speaker 2: they've been knockingimselves unconscious and they're just going down. Yeah well,

1728
01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:34,213
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and it could could take a while

1729
01:21:34,253 --> 01:21:37,052
Speaker 2: to turn back ground. That's that's a there's an interesting point, Bill. Yeah.

1730
01:21:38,213 --> 01:21:40,293
Speaker 17: So yeah, well he hasn't even for that, you know,

1731
01:21:40,452 --> 01:21:42,933
Speaker 17: it's just just crazy. I've got a life jacket that

1732
01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:46,572
Speaker 17: south inflates when it hits the water, which is good

1733
01:21:46,572 --> 01:21:49,092
Speaker 17: and bad because if your cap side, you go straight

1734
01:21:49,173 --> 01:21:51,812
Speaker 17: up to the upside down of the boat. You can't

1735
01:21:51,812 --> 01:21:52,173
Speaker 17: get out.

1736
01:21:52,532 --> 01:21:54,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so a bunch of if a whole lot

1737
01:21:54,732 --> 01:21:56,892
Speaker 2: of people are texting about this, and I hadn't even

1738
01:21:56,933 --> 01:21:59,612
Speaker 2: thought about this. So what are the real dangers about

1739
01:21:59,853 --> 01:22:02,253
Speaker 2: being trapped under a boat and you're so buoyant from

1740
01:22:02,293 --> 01:22:04,572
Speaker 2: your from your life jacket? I mean, most life jacket's

1741
01:22:04,572 --> 01:22:05,932
Speaker 2: a reason easy to get off, aren't they.

1742
01:22:08,372 --> 01:22:10,412
Speaker 17: They're not that easy. They're designed not to.

1743
01:22:10,372 --> 01:22:11,732
Speaker 2: Be too easy, some of them.

1744
01:22:12,933 --> 01:22:15,812
Speaker 17: Yeah, but it's like an aircraft. That's why they tell

1745
01:22:15,853 --> 01:22:18,253
Speaker 17: you in a plane, don't inflat your life check until

1746
01:22:18,253 --> 01:22:21,093
Speaker 17: you get out of the aircraft, because it fills with water.

1747
01:22:21,213 --> 01:22:23,253
Speaker 17: You go straight up to the roof, you can't get out.

1748
01:22:23,412 --> 01:22:23,612
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1749
01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:26,532
Speaker 2: It's it harder to get the cross strapped ones off

1750
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:28,053
Speaker 2: than the other ones. I meagine it would be.

1751
01:22:29,732 --> 01:22:31,852
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think so. Some of them have got quick

1752
01:22:31,893 --> 01:22:34,652
Speaker 17: release on them, and some of them are buckled. They've

1753
01:22:34,652 --> 01:22:38,372
Speaker 17: got a stain of steel buckle which is quite hard

1754
01:22:38,412 --> 01:22:38,852
Speaker 17: to undo.

1755
01:22:39,492 --> 01:22:41,532
Speaker 2: You sound like quite an inexperienced body bill.

1756
01:22:41,572 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 3: Would that be creep No, not really, it sounded like it.

1757
01:22:47,532 --> 01:22:49,932
Speaker 17: I'm a passenger on a boat, but I've looked into.

1758
01:22:49,732 --> 01:22:54,692
Speaker 2: It and you're und you had a bit of a skier,

1759
01:22:54,692 --> 01:22:56,372
Speaker 2: did you.

1760
01:22:56,492 --> 01:23:00,692
Speaker 17: Yeah, we were taking on water and I just thought, well,

1761
01:23:00,732 --> 01:23:02,492
Speaker 17: maybe we're going to sink and I haven't got a.

1762
01:23:02,532 --> 01:23:07,093
Speaker 2: Life checket, right, So you were out on a boat

1763
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:09,333
Speaker 2: and there just wasn't in even like not not even

1764
01:23:09,572 --> 01:23:11,452
Speaker 2: not on but not even on the boat.

1765
01:23:12,333 --> 01:23:14,932
Speaker 17: Oh they are on the boat, but there are most

1766
01:23:14,933 --> 01:23:17,293
Speaker 17: of them. Keep them in the cabin, right and if

1767
01:23:17,333 --> 01:23:19,372
Speaker 17: you're out the back, you've got to find your way

1768
01:23:19,372 --> 01:23:22,973
Speaker 17: into get the things. And it was just it just

1769
01:23:23,053 --> 01:23:26,213
Speaker 17: makes sense. And these self inflating ones are quite small.

1770
01:23:26,213 --> 01:23:27,492
Speaker 17: They're not obtrusive at all.

1771
01:23:27,973 --> 01:23:30,973
Speaker 3: The other ones with the canisters, they're the canisters that

1772
01:23:31,213 --> 01:23:33,812
Speaker 3: kind of eject and blow it up. You've got to

1773
01:23:33,812 --> 01:23:35,612
Speaker 3: be careful of those, though, don't you, Because if you

1774
01:23:36,053 --> 01:23:38,133
Speaker 3: take it out or been in storage and you haven't

1775
01:23:38,173 --> 01:23:40,253
Speaker 3: checked the canister and then you need it and it

1776
01:23:40,293 --> 01:23:42,372
Speaker 3: turns out the canister's got a leak or it's eroded,

1777
01:23:42,772 --> 01:23:43,772
Speaker 3: then you're kind of stuffed.

1778
01:23:44,732 --> 01:23:48,253
Speaker 17: Well, you're supposed to replace them every twelve months, I think.

1779
01:23:48,492 --> 01:23:54,693
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, gotcha, Yeah, but better than the old.

1780
01:23:53,333 --> 01:23:56,893
Speaker 17: On TV where that guy was needs to go to specksavors.

1781
01:23:56,893 --> 01:23:59,853
Speaker 17: You're seeing me falls on the water and it south inflates.

1782
01:24:00,652 --> 01:24:04,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones, it's good. What happens in he falls

1783
01:24:04,652 --> 01:24:07,013
Speaker 3: off the boat and the jacket comes up. But I

1784
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:09,052
Speaker 3: can't remember what was the what's a punchline?

1785
01:24:09,133 --> 01:24:14,093
Speaker 17: Yeah, I can't remember either. He was walking down at war,

1786
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:15,612
Speaker 17: that's right, and he didn't see the end of.

1787
01:24:15,612 --> 01:24:18,492
Speaker 3: The war walk Oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

1788
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:22,013
Speaker 3: memorable about just you know, it doesn't make you think

1789
01:24:22,013 --> 01:24:23,772
Speaker 3: about glasses, makes you think about life jackets.

1790
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:27,732
Speaker 2: Good work from Specsavers with those ads. Yeah, very clever,

1791
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:28,572
Speaker 2: that's very clever.

1792
01:24:28,692 --> 01:24:29,092
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1793
01:24:29,093 --> 01:24:30,612
Speaker 2: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1794
01:24:30,692 --> 01:24:31,213
Speaker 2: number to call.

1795
01:24:31,293 --> 01:24:34,052
Speaker 3: We are taking your thoughts on the idea of mandatory

1796
01:24:34,053 --> 01:24:35,172
Speaker 3: life jackets for everyone.

1797
01:24:35,333 --> 01:24:37,612
Speaker 2: Perfect example as to why we need life jackets, warn

1798
01:24:37,612 --> 01:24:40,013
Speaker 2: a skipper stating he won't change a thing. If the

1799
01:24:40,053 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: law comes into play, he should be leading by example. Yeah,

1800
01:24:43,253 --> 01:24:47,092
Speaker 2: but it's you know, by their own you know, admission.

1801
01:24:47,333 --> 01:24:50,772
Speaker 2: This won't be enforced. So the idea of having a

1802
01:24:50,772 --> 01:24:53,812
Speaker 2: blanket nationalwide rule that everyone has to wear the life

1803
01:24:53,853 --> 01:24:59,253
Speaker 2: jackets as just as an education initiative, really yeah, because

1804
01:24:59,412 --> 01:25:01,772
Speaker 2: I mean, good luck pinging people for not having life jackets.

1805
01:25:01,812 --> 01:25:03,973
Speaker 2: When they're out in the you know, out on the

1806
01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:05,692
Speaker 2: water exactly. I mean, who's going to see them?

1807
01:25:05,772 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have enough police boats for that. It

1808
01:25:08,452 --> 01:25:10,532
Speaker 3: is a quarter past three bag very shortly. But taking

1809
01:25:10,572 --> 01:25:12,732
Speaker 3: your calls, of course, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1810
01:25:13,093 --> 01:25:15,732
Speaker 3: u's talk said, be s eighteen past three, and we

1811
01:25:15,812 --> 01:25:18,372
Speaker 3: are talking about the idea of mandatory life jackets for

1812
01:25:18,412 --> 01:25:20,652
Speaker 3: every one. Water Safety New Zealander is pushing it. Keen

1813
01:25:20,732 --> 01:25:22,852
Speaker 3: to get your views on O eight hundred and eighteen eighty.

1814
01:25:22,732 --> 01:25:26,252
Speaker 2: The percentage of people this would helps. Tiny people are relaxing,

1815
01:25:26,293 --> 01:25:29,213
Speaker 2: some bathing, fishing, if it's rough, et cetera. Make the

1816
01:25:29,213 --> 01:25:31,812
Speaker 2: call the skipper is responsible? Are we all having to

1817
01:25:31,853 --> 01:25:34,333
Speaker 2: wear life jackets when we are going to the beach?

1818
01:25:35,692 --> 01:25:38,173
Speaker 2: They what were they called? Again? We talked to the

1819
01:25:38,213 --> 01:25:40,812
Speaker 2: guy water Safety New Zealand. Yep, yeah, it was great

1820
01:25:40,812 --> 01:25:43,412
Speaker 2: man Glenn. Yeah. So they're not pushing for it when

1821
01:25:43,452 --> 01:25:45,732
Speaker 2: you're when you're anchored up in a bay and everyone's swimming.

1822
01:25:45,772 --> 01:25:48,052
Speaker 2: It's only they're only pushing for it when the boat

1823
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:51,652
Speaker 2: is moving, correct, But thank you for your text. That

1824
01:25:51,692 --> 01:25:55,092
Speaker 2: guy Craig is a total irresponsible muppet boat master ticket.

1825
01:25:55,452 --> 01:25:57,213
Speaker 2: He got his out of a week picks packet.

1826
01:25:57,213 --> 01:25:59,572
Speaker 3: Okay, keep those teas coming through on nineteen nine, two.

1827
01:25:59,652 --> 01:26:01,532
Speaker 2: Week picks giving away boat masters.

1828
01:26:01,853 --> 01:26:02,572
Speaker 3: That makes it easy.

1829
01:26:02,652 --> 01:26:04,372
Speaker 2: That'd be good. But yeah, I'm going to try and

1830
01:26:04,412 --> 01:26:07,333
Speaker 2: convince my mother in law to me let me, you know,

1831
01:26:07,812 --> 01:26:09,532
Speaker 2: skipper boat over Christmas.

1832
01:26:09,572 --> 01:26:12,452
Speaker 3: I'll let us know how that goes. That is responsibility.

1833
01:26:12,492 --> 01:26:14,293
Speaker 2: So if I can get that that masters out of

1834
01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:17,412
Speaker 2: a bloody week pick it, yeah, that'd be good. The

1835
01:26:17,772 --> 01:26:21,372
Speaker 2: issue is should under fifteens all under fifteen should wear

1836
01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,492
Speaker 2: life jackets? Absolutely? These young ones are more vulnerable than

1837
01:26:24,532 --> 01:26:29,293
Speaker 2: anyone else. Now, what they're pushing for is for all adults. Yeah,

1838
01:26:29,372 --> 01:26:30,293
Speaker 2: not just under fifteen.

1839
01:26:30,412 --> 01:26:32,652
Speaker 3: Correct. So the bill before Parliament at the moment, it's

1840
01:26:32,692 --> 01:26:35,652
Speaker 3: the submissions are open that may mandate it for under fifteen.

1841
01:26:35,692 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 3: But Water Safety New Zealand says, no bugger that everybody should.

1842
01:26:39,652 --> 01:26:43,652
Speaker 2: And Gilly says, Craig's not the problem. He's an experienced skipper.

1843
01:26:43,933 --> 01:26:46,372
Speaker 2: It's the muppets you see launching their tinny from the

1844
01:26:46,532 --> 01:26:50,412
Speaker 2: launch ramp, three big lumps, no life jacket, puttering off

1845
01:26:50,452 --> 01:26:54,012
Speaker 2: into the distance with the wind turning, white peaks getting bigger.

1846
01:26:54,692 --> 01:26:56,932
Speaker 2: That's a widow maker situation right there.

1847
01:26:56,812 --> 01:27:01,333
Speaker 3: Beautifully written Kimberly, how are you this afternoon? I'm good

1848
01:27:01,372 --> 01:27:04,253
Speaker 3: for you, really nice to chat with you. So have

1849
01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:07,732
Speaker 3: I got this right? You work with Coastguard New Zealand. Yes,

1850
01:27:07,772 --> 01:27:11,812
Speaker 3: I don't fantastic And so what's your thoughts when it

1851
01:27:11,853 --> 01:27:14,612
Speaker 3: comes to life jackets mandatory life jackets for everyone on

1852
01:27:14,652 --> 01:27:14,892
Speaker 3: the water?

1853
01:27:16,173 --> 01:27:22,452
Speaker 23: Yeh, Look, we I guess volunteers witness firsthand see the

1854
01:27:22,572 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 23: intacts that we're in lifejckets were so we are eff

1855
01:27:25,253 --> 01:27:29,612
Speaker 23: a casing for ye to life jackets for all ages

1856
01:27:29,612 --> 01:27:31,012
Speaker 23: on all recreational crafts.

1857
01:27:31,013 --> 01:27:34,852
Speaker 26: When when the vessel is underway, what.

1858
01:27:34,772 --> 01:27:37,852
Speaker 2: Do you say to all the skippers that are texting

1859
01:27:37,893 --> 01:27:40,492
Speaker 2: and saying, I'm a responsible skipper. I know when it's

1860
01:27:40,572 --> 01:27:45,452
Speaker 2: dangerous and when it's safe, and it's my responsibility when

1861
01:27:45,452 --> 01:27:48,532
Speaker 2: people put life jackets on or not because they feel

1862
01:27:48,572 --> 01:27:50,932
Speaker 2: a little bit like, you know, we don't do anything wrong.

1863
01:27:51,213 --> 01:27:52,612
Speaker 2: Why are we being forced to do this?

1864
01:27:53,933 --> 01:27:56,892
Speaker 23: Look, it is fantastic that there are so many stuffs

1865
01:27:56,933 --> 01:27:59,772
Speaker 23: out there taking you know, taking that role really is

1866
01:27:59,933 --> 01:28:04,972
Speaker 23: responsible responsibly, So you know, absolutely cut us to those

1867
01:28:05,173 --> 01:28:10,452
Speaker 23: and those people. The reality is there, you know, things

1868
01:28:10,532 --> 01:28:15,692
Speaker 23: happen out on the water in an instance, and and

1869
01:28:16,452 --> 01:28:19,213
Speaker 23: you know if you've got you know, if you've got

1870
01:28:19,213 --> 01:28:22,692
Speaker 23: a life jacket on board but not worn, when something happens,

1871
01:28:22,692 --> 01:28:25,452
Speaker 23: when something goes wrong, it's no good to you up

1872
01:28:25,492 --> 01:28:27,492
Speaker 23: the front. You know, if you end up in the

1873
01:28:27,492 --> 01:28:30,852
Speaker 23: water unexpectedly, you need that life jacket in order to

1874
01:28:30,933 --> 01:28:35,972
Speaker 23: help you stay afloat, which essentially enables us or enables

1875
01:28:36,053 --> 01:28:39,132
Speaker 23: time for our volunteers to come out and assist.

1876
01:28:39,933 --> 01:28:41,852
Speaker 2: How often do you see out on the water the

1877
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 2: situation that we're hearing a bit through on the text

1878
01:28:44,372 --> 01:28:49,572
Speaker 2: machine of people with life jackets on floating under the

1879
01:28:49,572 --> 01:28:51,812
Speaker 2: boat and the left jacket making it difficult for them

1880
01:28:51,812 --> 01:28:53,692
Speaker 2: to get out from under the boat. Do you see

1881
01:28:53,692 --> 01:28:54,293
Speaker 2: that very often?

1882
01:28:55,973 --> 01:28:59,133
Speaker 23: Look, you know there are reports that you know that

1883
01:28:59,133 --> 01:29:03,812
Speaker 23: that that does happen, and so you know there is

1884
01:29:04,812 --> 01:29:08,852
Speaker 23: you know, ultimately it's depending on the type of life jacket.

1885
01:29:08,893 --> 01:29:12,692
Speaker 23: You know, obviously encouraging. Uh, there is the inflatable life

1886
01:29:12,772 --> 01:29:17,452
Speaker 23: jackets which you inflate. You know, once you've left I

1887
01:29:17,452 --> 01:29:21,932
Speaker 23: guess left left the craft, so it does it does happen,

1888
01:29:22,893 --> 01:29:25,732
Speaker 23: and but ultimately I guess you know you've still got

1889
01:29:25,732 --> 01:29:28,572
Speaker 23: a greater chances of survival were wearing a life jacket.

1890
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:30,932
Speaker 3: So you measure before you're out on the water Coast

1891
01:29:30,933 --> 01:29:33,572
Speaker 3: Guard New Zealand, you'd see a lot of terrible things

1892
01:29:33,572 --> 01:29:36,532
Speaker 3: happened to boaty. Give us some examples. What happens that

1893
01:29:36,652 --> 01:29:39,093
Speaker 3: is it? You know, the engine gets cut in the

1894
01:29:39,133 --> 01:29:41,173
Speaker 3: waters start getting a lot more choppy, and they don't

1895
01:29:41,213 --> 01:29:43,253
Speaker 3: have their life jackets. What sort of examples are you

1896
01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:43,852
Speaker 3: seen out there?

1897
01:29:45,492 --> 01:29:45,852
Speaker 8: Oh?

1898
01:29:45,893 --> 01:29:49,372
Speaker 23: Look, you know you can have situations where somebody gets

1899
01:29:49,933 --> 01:29:54,972
Speaker 23: hit by zone and ocked overboard. You can have a

1900
01:29:55,093 --> 01:29:59,333
Speaker 23: rogue wave and you know certainly crossing a bar comes

1901
01:29:59,372 --> 01:30:03,933
Speaker 23: with significant risks and as well, so you know, the

1902
01:30:03,973 --> 01:30:08,173
Speaker 23: ability to capsize. We've had a scenario where people have

1903
01:30:08,532 --> 01:30:13,013
Speaker 23: been towing another vessel that was taking on water and

1904
01:30:13,053 --> 01:30:15,732
Speaker 23: then in both vessels got pulled down and nobody had

1905
01:30:15,772 --> 01:30:17,572
Speaker 23: life jackets on and we ended up with five people

1906
01:30:17,572 --> 01:30:20,612
Speaker 23: in the water with no life jackets on. So there

1907
01:30:20,652 --> 01:30:23,572
Speaker 23: is just so many different scenarios that can play out.

1908
01:30:24,372 --> 01:30:27,412
Speaker 23: You know, people could have a medical event. So it's

1909
01:30:27,933 --> 01:30:30,692
Speaker 23: this is just about try to make sure that we

1910
01:30:30,732 --> 01:30:36,133
Speaker 23: are giving everybody the best possible chance of survival if

1911
01:30:36,173 --> 01:30:37,372
Speaker 23: something does go wrong.

1912
01:30:38,213 --> 01:30:40,652
Speaker 2: Is this just a muppet problem, and will the muppets

1913
01:30:40,652 --> 01:30:43,452
Speaker 2: not wear the life jackets, whether they're mandated or not.

1914
01:30:46,093 --> 01:30:50,732
Speaker 23: Look and they you know, the reality is people are

1915
01:30:50,732 --> 01:30:53,892
Speaker 23: going to make their own you know, obviously, they make

1916
01:30:53,893 --> 01:30:57,732
Speaker 23: their own choices. I've alluded to the fact that things

1917
01:30:57,933 --> 01:31:00,812
Speaker 23: that things do go wrong, and you know, there are

1918
01:31:00,853 --> 01:31:03,612
Speaker 23: so many great examples as well where people have been

1919
01:31:03,652 --> 01:31:05,973
Speaker 23: wearing a life jacket. So don't get me wrong, this

1920
01:31:06,053 --> 01:31:08,652
Speaker 23: is not all about people who aren't wearing them. There

1921
01:31:08,652 --> 01:31:11,253
Speaker 23: are also people who have been wearing them and are

1922
01:31:11,253 --> 01:31:14,652
Speaker 23: here today because they have. So I think, you know,

1923
01:31:14,732 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 23: we need to look at those positive outcomes of a

1924
01:31:16,893 --> 01:31:19,772
Speaker 23: number of people that probably have been saved as a

1925
01:31:19,812 --> 01:31:24,253
Speaker 23: result of wearing life jackets. So you know that that's

1926
01:31:24,293 --> 01:31:26,933
Speaker 23: that's the other piece. And I think there is the

1927
01:31:27,013 --> 01:31:31,253
Speaker 23: ability for us again to bring these people home because

1928
01:31:31,293 --> 01:31:34,173
Speaker 23: they have they have warm ones. So we know the outcomes.

1929
01:31:34,213 --> 01:31:37,173
Speaker 23: We know that there's more likelihood to survive if you're

1930
01:31:37,173 --> 01:31:39,253
Speaker 23: wearing a life jacket. So we just want to make

1931
01:31:39,293 --> 01:31:43,572
Speaker 23: sure that everybody has has that opportunity, you know, And

1932
01:31:43,612 --> 01:31:47,133
Speaker 23: it's not about people who are making you know, poor

1933
01:31:47,173 --> 01:31:50,973
Speaker 23: decisions out there. You know, this is about you know,

1934
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:53,492
Speaker 23: people who are going out with the intention of having

1935
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:56,852
Speaker 23: a great day. They've gone out for fish, but something

1936
01:31:56,893 --> 01:31:58,293
Speaker 23: has gone wrong on the way.

1937
01:31:58,532 --> 01:32:01,973
Speaker 2: What size recreational boats do you support being included in

1938
01:32:02,293 --> 01:32:06,572
Speaker 2: a mandate? Is it all recreational craft or is it

1939
01:32:06,772 --> 01:32:09,652
Speaker 2: six meters and below? What do you do you have

1940
01:32:09,692 --> 01:32:10,372
Speaker 2: an idea of that.

1941
01:32:12,013 --> 01:32:15,492
Speaker 23: From our perspects of we'd like to see this blight

1942
01:32:15,612 --> 01:32:19,372
Speaker 23: jackets on all recreational craft, so that is both yet

1943
01:32:19,492 --> 01:32:24,612
Speaker 23: so potentially extending it beyond the natives. That's the bill proposers.

1944
01:32:25,093 --> 01:32:26,093
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for you call.

1945
01:32:26,412 --> 01:32:29,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. That is Kimberly Water's head of communications

1946
01:32:29,652 --> 01:32:32,892
Speaker 3: at Coast Guard. Interesting thoughts and taking yours as well.

1947
01:32:32,933 --> 01:32:33,053
Speaker 22: Well.

1948
01:32:33,093 --> 01:32:34,972
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number? Call

1949
01:32:35,053 --> 01:32:36,973
Speaker 3: it's twenty five past.

1950
01:32:36,652 --> 01:32:44,253
Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1951
01:32:44,333 --> 01:32:46,493
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

1952
01:32:46,372 --> 01:32:49,693
Speaker 3: Twenty eight past three, super quick. We had the communications

1953
01:32:49,732 --> 01:32:52,052
Speaker 3: manager for the Coast Guard ring through before talking about

1954
01:32:52,093 --> 01:32:53,652
Speaker 3: life Jackets and got to give them a shout out

1955
01:32:53,652 --> 01:32:57,333
Speaker 3: because they do great work. A lot of volunteer workers

1956
01:32:57,333 --> 01:32:59,452
Speaker 3: for the Coast Guard, so they're running a lottery at

1957
01:32:59,452 --> 01:33:02,333
Speaker 3: the moment. It is a charity and it's important work

1958
01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:03,812
Speaker 3: they do. So if you want to go support them,

1959
01:33:03,853 --> 01:33:06,612
Speaker 3: just go to Coastguard dot enz and you can search

1960
01:33:06,652 --> 01:33:08,572
Speaker 3: for the lottery and also if you're a bow you

1961
01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:10,173
Speaker 3: can sign up to their service as well. But they

1962
01:33:10,213 --> 01:33:10,772
Speaker 3: do good work.

1963
01:33:11,293 --> 01:33:14,092
Speaker 2: Brenda, welcome the show your thoughts on mandated life jackets

1964
01:33:14,093 --> 01:33:14,652
Speaker 2: for everyone.

1965
01:33:16,253 --> 01:33:19,452
Speaker 26: Look, there's been a lot of them. To talk about

1966
01:33:20,372 --> 01:33:23,772
Speaker 26: people fitting off rocks with that then tory to have

1967
01:33:24,053 --> 01:33:30,052
Speaker 26: life jackets. I was a lifeguard at Morrawai for nearly

1968
01:33:30,213 --> 01:33:37,692
Speaker 26: twenty years and I pulled two people at a fizzling

1969
01:33:37,772 --> 01:33:44,092
Speaker 26: off flat rock at Marawaii. One was in his full

1970
01:33:44,133 --> 01:33:49,492
Speaker 26: winter gear with overalls on top. He'd been drinking, he'd

1971
01:33:49,532 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 26: been vomiting. We finally got him out. I knew he

1972
01:33:53,853 --> 01:33:57,812
Speaker 26: was dead because he was floating face down when we

1973
01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:01,652
Speaker 26: got to him Sunday afternoon in the middle of winter

1974
01:34:01,812 --> 01:34:03,412
Speaker 26: and be having Sunday runs.

1975
01:34:04,933 --> 01:34:05,892
Speaker 3: That is horrific.

1976
01:34:07,213 --> 01:34:09,812
Speaker 11: What in some is.

1977
01:34:11,612 --> 01:34:14,333
Speaker 3: Oh, Brenda, We're just sorry. We just got your back.

1978
01:34:14,372 --> 01:34:16,213
Speaker 3: You carry on okay.

1979
01:34:16,412 --> 01:34:20,412
Speaker 26: In some ways, what was what was worth is that

1980
01:34:20,452 --> 01:34:24,772
Speaker 26: when you're doing CPR and Resa, some of the ear

1981
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:29,892
Speaker 26: that you blow into the lungs gets into their stomach

1982
01:34:31,412 --> 01:34:34,692
Speaker 26: and after about fifteen minutes it comes out of the

1983
01:34:34,772 --> 01:34:41,173
Speaker 26: google and the relatives all spending around her going oh,

1984
01:34:41,333 --> 01:34:50,213
Speaker 26: thank God, thank god, no no, and the local rotster

1985
01:34:50,333 --> 01:34:56,692
Speaker 26: came down and declared indead. The second one was a

1986
01:34:56,772 --> 01:35:02,012
Speaker 26: guy who just loves that rock is a big call.

1987
01:35:02,213 --> 01:35:03,933
Speaker 17: What the muscles grew on.

1988
01:35:05,333 --> 01:35:09,253
Speaker 26: And this guy had gone up there till muscle sell

1989
01:35:09,732 --> 01:35:14,572
Speaker 26: his hen. We called them out and his brains were

1990
01:35:14,732 --> 01:35:16,492
Speaker 26: leaking out of earth.

1991
01:35:19,173 --> 01:35:19,333
Speaker 1: Now.

1992
01:35:19,412 --> 01:35:23,293
Speaker 26: I don't know if life jackets would have saved the

1993
01:35:23,333 --> 01:35:29,412
Speaker 26: second guy, but the Foos guy I believe it would.

1994
01:35:29,532 --> 01:35:29,572
Speaker 5: Is.

1995
01:35:30,692 --> 01:35:33,213
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you for your for your call. I mean,

1996
01:35:33,213 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 2: that's that's some grim stuff, Brenda, And thank you for

1997
01:35:35,372 --> 01:35:37,092
Speaker 2: your twenty years service at MERUAI.

1998
01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:37,492
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1999
01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:38,692
Speaker 3: That brings it home, doesn't it.

2000
01:35:38,812 --> 01:35:39,933
Speaker 2: Thank goodness for people like you.

2001
01:35:40,133 --> 01:35:40,372
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2002
01:35:40,412 --> 01:35:44,492
Speaker 2: Absolutely, This Texas says, please stop calling it a life jacket.

2003
01:35:44,532 --> 01:35:48,013
Speaker 2: They are personal flotation devices or PFDs. No guarantee to

2004
01:35:48,053 --> 01:35:51,812
Speaker 2: save your life. We wear seat belts and cars. This

2005
01:35:51,893 --> 01:35:54,093
Speaker 2: is a different text. I will call them life jackets.

2006
01:35:54,293 --> 01:35:56,293
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of mandated speech.

2007
01:35:56,053 --> 01:35:56,772
Speaker 3: And held speech.

2008
01:35:56,933 --> 01:36:00,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get out. We wear seatbelts and cars should

2009
01:36:00,973 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 2: have life jackets and boats and also registration and licenses.

2010
01:36:05,732 --> 01:36:08,733
Speaker 2: But this text pushes back, saying another case of legislating

2011
01:36:08,772 --> 01:36:10,532
Speaker 2: for the lowest common dominator.

2012
01:36:10,772 --> 01:36:13,732
Speaker 3: Again, all thoughts on this has been great chat has

2013
01:36:13,732 --> 01:36:16,253
Speaker 3: been a great chat, so thank you very much. But

2014
01:36:16,893 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 3: coming up next the big moment, New Zealander of the way,

2015
01:36:21,532 --> 01:36:22,612
Speaker 3: who will it be?

2016
01:36:25,692 --> 01:36:28,132
Speaker 1: You talk sat the headlines.

2017
01:36:27,652 --> 01:36:30,972
Speaker 15: With blue bubble taxis, It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2018
01:36:31,452 --> 01:36:35,173
Speaker 15: One person is seriously injured out of five children and

2019
01:36:35,293 --> 01:36:39,173
Speaker 15: one teacher injured by corrosive chemical on water slide at

2020
01:36:39,253 --> 01:36:42,333
Speaker 15: christ Church to Daycare. At least forty people have been

2021
01:36:42,372 --> 01:36:46,933
Speaker 15: assessed and six hospitalized with chemical burns. Authorities say a

2022
01:36:46,933 --> 01:36:50,932
Speaker 15: misidentified detergent ended up on the slip and slide at

2023
01:36:50,973 --> 01:36:55,892
Speaker 15: Woolston's Ferry Road Kindiccare Learning Center, causing skin irritation and

2024
01:36:55,933 --> 01:37:00,333
Speaker 15: some light blistering. Hathor Hornet Saint John Operations manager Chris

2025
01:37:00,372 --> 01:37:03,853
Speaker 15: Harrison says of those assessed, two others have minor injuries.

2026
01:37:04,173 --> 01:37:07,732
Speaker 15: All others have gone home with their parents. New Zealand's

2027
01:37:07,732 --> 01:37:10,213
Speaker 15: getting to the point end of free trade agreement talks

2028
01:37:10,213 --> 01:37:13,452
Speaker 15: with India with Minister Todd McLay lined up for one

2029
01:37:13,492 --> 01:37:17,013
Speaker 15: more visit before Christmas. The head of the Commerce Commissions

2030
01:37:17,013 --> 01:37:20,612
Speaker 15: told the MP's are electricity sectors a market failure, with

2031
01:37:20,692 --> 01:37:24,812
Speaker 15: lots still to be done to help consumers retired into Ireland.

2032
01:37:24,893 --> 01:37:28,612
Speaker 15: A ferry art Teddy, now renamed Vega, is still here

2033
01:37:28,812 --> 01:37:32,612
Speaker 15: waiting for paperwork from India where it'll be scraped. She's

2034
01:37:32,812 --> 01:37:36,293
Speaker 15: had a paint job. The match that changed us Why

2035
01:37:36,333 --> 01:37:39,453
Speaker 15: the key we a League Derby is the best rivalry

2036
01:37:39,532 --> 01:37:42,213
Speaker 15: in New Zealand sport. You can see more at Inzen

2037
01:37:42,293 --> 01:37:45,692
Speaker 15: Herald Premium. Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2038
01:37:46,853 --> 01:37:52,213
Speaker 1: The Matteath Andan Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

2039
01:37:52,973 --> 01:37:56,852
Speaker 16: Ladies and gentlemen, It is time once again for the

2040
01:37:56,973 --> 01:38:01,452
Speaker 16: Mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

2041
01:38:01,612 --> 01:38:03,732
Speaker 2: As you know, this is a.

2042
01:38:04,333 --> 01:38:07,532
Speaker 16: Hugely important award cobbled together by me at home before

2043
01:38:07,572 --> 01:38:10,133
Speaker 16: I come to the studio on a Friday each week.

2044
01:38:10,293 --> 01:38:13,372
Speaker 16: Incredible kiwis we have talked about on the show who

2045
01:38:13,412 --> 01:38:16,052
Speaker 16: have had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful

2046
01:38:16,133 --> 01:38:19,293
Speaker 16: nation are on it. As always, there'll be two runners up,

2047
01:38:19,333 --> 01:38:21,293
Speaker 16: but only one lucky winner.

2048
01:38:21,333 --> 01:38:22,772
Speaker 2: Who will it be.

2049
01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:26,772
Speaker 16: Without further here's the second runner up for the mad

2050
01:38:26,812 --> 01:38:30,253
Speaker 16: Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of.

2051
01:38:30,213 --> 01:38:34,372
Speaker 13: The Week Gibs Beer hor Bears deer.

2052
01:38:34,812 --> 01:38:39,253
Speaker 3: Mort bort bort Yinglishish.

2053
01:38:39,372 --> 01:38:45,532
Speaker 16: Weekiwis don't like the following MDF particle board and following instructions.

2054
01:38:45,612 --> 01:38:47,012
Speaker 2: That's why we need real pre.

2055
01:38:46,933 --> 01:38:50,492
Speaker 16: Constructed furniture built in its entirety out of remoot ash

2056
01:38:50,692 --> 01:38:54,772
Speaker 16: or some half decent pine generational furniture by once and

2057
01:38:54,933 --> 01:38:58,133
Speaker 16: use forever, the type of stuff that clogs up secondhand

2058
01:38:58,173 --> 01:39:02,213
Speaker 16: furniture stores and not landfill. That's why the newly formed

2059
01:39:02,213 --> 01:39:04,772
Speaker 16: think tank the if if b LG.

2060
01:39:05,293 --> 01:39:07,372
Speaker 2: Or Flat Pack Backlash Group.

2061
01:39:07,333 --> 01:39:09,812
Speaker 16: Are our second run up for New Zealander of the

2062
01:39:09,853 --> 01:39:14,612
Speaker 16: Week as the iffb lgs by Athole By at Once

2063
01:39:14,893 --> 01:39:16,732
Speaker 16: Give it to your kids Ah.

2064
01:39:21,612 --> 01:39:22,333
Speaker 2: Identification.

2065
01:39:22,452 --> 01:39:25,213
Speaker 8: This is T one nine seventy two the first half

2066
01:39:25,213 --> 01:39:28,692
Speaker 8: hour of transmission of Radio Hiraki, the fifth of December

2067
01:39:28,893 --> 01:39:29,932
Speaker 8: nineteen sixty six.

2068
01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:37,653
Speaker 1: This is Radio Halaki, the home of the Young New Zealanders.

2069
01:39:38,772 --> 01:39:42,372
Speaker 16: Fifty nine years ago, these great New Zealanders took to

2070
01:39:42,412 --> 01:39:46,492
Speaker 16: the waters to fight back against audial oppression. Radio at

2071
01:39:46,532 --> 01:39:50,293
Speaker 16: the time was all government owned and controlled and lame,

2072
01:39:50,732 --> 01:39:53,532
Speaker 16: but these pirates got around that by heading out to

2073
01:39:53,652 --> 01:39:57,412
Speaker 16: international waters and beaming back rock and roll.

2074
01:39:57,293 --> 01:39:58,052
Speaker 2: To their kids.

2075
01:39:58,572 --> 01:40:02,652
Speaker 16: What they did was so powerful, popular, and ultimately tragic

2076
01:40:02,933 --> 01:40:06,293
Speaker 16: that the nerdy government had to back down and radio.

2077
01:40:06,133 --> 01:40:08,612
Speaker 2: Was freed for all kiwis, leading to.

2078
01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:12,572
Speaker 25: All the amazing stations like this one you have today

2079
01:40:13,013 --> 01:40:15,652
Speaker 25: that we get to listen to for free. Thanks to

2080
01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 25: the ads the radio hot accupirates who went to see

2081
01:40:19,412 --> 01:40:21,972
Speaker 25: for the first time fifty nine years ago.

2082
01:40:22,093 --> 01:40:26,012
Speaker 16: You changed down nation forever and you are first runners

2083
01:40:26,133 --> 01:40:28,053
Speaker 16: up for New Zealanders.

2084
01:40:27,492 --> 01:40:27,932
Speaker 1: Of the Week.

2085
01:40:29,452 --> 01:40:35,253
Speaker 27: The strength of my connection, the retouch my soul.

2086
01:40:36,652 --> 01:40:40,852
Speaker 15: Had hardly.

2087
01:40:42,133 --> 01:40:44,692
Speaker 16: There are people in this country that do so much

2088
01:40:44,692 --> 01:40:48,932
Speaker 16: for others when they pass on the kidneys, liver, heart, lungs,

2089
01:40:48,973 --> 01:40:53,772
Speaker 16: pancreas small than testine cornea's skin, bone tendons, ligaments, art valves,

2090
01:40:53,772 --> 01:40:55,693
Speaker 16: blood vessels.

2091
01:40:54,933 --> 01:40:58,572
Speaker 2: And connective tissue. You can give them all the way.

2092
01:40:58,853 --> 01:41:01,253
Speaker 16: But it needs to be signed off by family members.

2093
01:41:01,412 --> 01:41:04,172
Speaker 16: At this most difficult and tragic moment in their lives.

2094
01:41:04,492 --> 01:41:07,732
Speaker 16: These loved ones stand up and makes decisions that can

2095
01:41:07,772 --> 01:41:11,012
Speaker 16: help up to ninety different people just because it's.

2096
01:41:10,812 --> 01:41:12,932
Speaker 2: His donor, and your license doesn't mean much.

2097
01:41:13,133 --> 01:41:14,972
Speaker 16: If you want to be an organ donor, you've got

2098
01:41:15,013 --> 01:41:17,133
Speaker 16: to be clear with your family while you are here,

2099
01:41:17,452 --> 01:41:18,732
Speaker 16: because they make the decision.

2100
01:41:19,093 --> 01:41:21,412
Speaker 2: This week, it was a deeply humbling honor.

2101
01:41:21,213 --> 01:41:23,572
Speaker 16: To talk to the live donors and the families of

2102
01:41:23,652 --> 01:41:28,972
Speaker 16: deceased donors who called up the show on Wednesday.

2103
01:41:29,133 --> 01:41:33,492
Speaker 13: New Zealand's organ donors are live and past, and your

2104
01:41:33,532 --> 01:41:38,133
Speaker 13: families you are selfless, noble, generous and brave, and you

2105
01:41:38,412 --> 01:41:42,412
Speaker 13: are the mat he and Tyler Adams New Zealanders of

2106
01:41:42,532 --> 01:41:42,932
Speaker 13: the week.

2107
01:41:43,412 --> 01:41:45,492
Speaker 3: Take it away Howie Morrison.

2108
01:42:03,412 --> 01:42:05,652
Speaker 2: Might would have received as part of Eric Kidman.

2109
01:42:05,772 --> 01:42:10,213
Speaker 12: It is a gift from some wonderful families loved and

2110
01:42:10,492 --> 01:42:15,692
Speaker 12: who had passed away. And she had twenty one years

2111
01:42:15,732 --> 01:42:20,212
Speaker 12: with that, she went on to study, she got married,

2112
01:42:20,732 --> 01:42:23,732
Speaker 12: she traveled the world, and she gave birth to two

2113
01:42:23,893 --> 01:42:27,093
Speaker 12: beautiful children who are now fifteen and seventeen.

2114
01:42:28,013 --> 01:42:31,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.

2115
01:42:31,772 --> 01:42:34,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

2116
01:42:34,893 --> 01:42:38,293
Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon Juit is seventeen to four.

2117
01:42:38,532 --> 01:42:41,213
Speaker 3: This is a great story. So many people would know.

2118
01:42:41,213 --> 01:42:44,932
Speaker 3: More than two thousand greyhounds urgently need new owners following

2119
01:42:44,933 --> 01:42:48,612
Speaker 3: the government's decision to ban greyhound racing next year. Now

2120
01:42:48,652 --> 01:42:51,412
Speaker 3: the news comes through that the Simpsons, one of the

2121
01:42:51,412 --> 01:42:54,932
Speaker 3: most iconic TV shows of all time, they have taken

2122
01:42:54,973 --> 01:42:58,452
Speaker 3: the unusual step of getting involved lending New Zealand the

2123
01:42:58,612 --> 01:43:01,892
Speaker 3: use of arguably well, I think he is the world's

2124
01:43:01,893 --> 01:43:05,973
Speaker 3: most famous cartoon greyhound. Greyhound sends as little Helper.

2125
01:43:05,812 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 14: Hey, Bernie with one as welwin numbers six. That's a

2126
01:43:09,452 --> 01:43:13,132
Speaker 14: lucky dog right over there. He's one of his last

2127
01:43:13,173 --> 01:43:17,133
Speaker 14: five races. What that's brownny little bag of poles?

2128
01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:19,612
Speaker 1: Come on, Dad, they're all scorny little bags of bones.

2129
01:43:19,812 --> 01:43:20,652
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're right.

2130
01:43:22,732 --> 01:43:27,013
Speaker 14: I guess we'll winners. Our only hope for a merry Christmas.

2131
01:43:27,013 --> 01:43:30,612
Speaker 3: We have a late in the race number race. Sir Gllahad.

2132
01:43:30,652 --> 01:43:34,932
Speaker 3: We'll be little Helper once a hand, Sir Galahad has

2133
01:43:35,053 --> 01:43:36,052
Speaker 3: been fine.

2134
01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:39,012
Speaker 1: A little helper, hark. Did you hear that?

2135
01:43:39,293 --> 01:43:42,412
Speaker 14: What a name? Santa's Little Helper. It's a sign, it's

2136
01:43:42,452 --> 01:43:42,812
Speaker 14: an omen.

2137
01:43:42,933 --> 01:43:43,733
Speaker 20: It's a coincidence.

2138
01:43:43,812 --> 01:43:44,012
Speaker 26: Dad.

2139
01:43:45,213 --> 01:43:47,452
Speaker 14: One of the odds on Sanna's Little Helper ninety nine

2140
01:43:47,492 --> 01:43:53,692
Speaker 14: to one. Whoa ninety nine times thirteen equals very.

2141
01:43:53,293 --> 01:43:57,412
Speaker 3: Christmas good behind this if it is the charity I

2142
01:43:57,452 --> 01:44:01,173
Speaker 3: committed to finding safe homes for retired racing greyhounds. Greyhounds

2143
01:44:01,293 --> 01:44:05,012
Speaker 3: is as Pitts and Lisa Philp from Greyhounds. As Pitts

2144
01:44:05,093 --> 01:44:07,932
Speaker 3: joins us on the phone right now, Lisa, very good

2145
01:44:07,933 --> 01:44:09,612
Speaker 3: afternoon to you, Hi.

2146
01:44:09,692 --> 01:44:10,213
Speaker 5: How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Very good? So, how did this partnership with the Simpsons

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Speaker 3: come about? And what does it mean for the rehoming effort?

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Speaker 5: So it came about through Special the very special PR company,

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Speaker 5: who know people, who know people, and they came up

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Speaker 5: with this incredible partnership which blew us away. And it

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Speaker 5: is the most iconic greyhound in the world at the end,

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Speaker 5: as little helper. So yeah, for us to be able

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Speaker 5: to use him to help us rehome all these greyhounds

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Speaker 5: is just amazing.

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Speaker 2: That is so good. It's very very cool. How many

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Speaker 2: greyhounds need to be housed in New Zealand rehomed?

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Speaker 5: Well, at the moment we have a steady stream of

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Speaker 5: them coming through as they retire from racing, But when

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Speaker 5: racing finishes middle of next year, there will be probably

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Speaker 5: by then we will have had about two thousand needing homes,

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Speaker 5: so at the moment it's a steady stream that when

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Speaker 5: racing finishes, will be a whole lot finishing that are

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Speaker 5: looking for a couch.

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Speaker 2: Are they good pets greyhounds?

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Speaker 5: Thank goodness, Absolutely, they're the best steps They're lazy, gentle, loyal,

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Speaker 5: gorgeous thing quiet.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean lazy? Because they're fast. They're really

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Speaker 2: really fast. Are they sprinters as opposed to marathon runners?

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 5: Exactly? They've built for about thirty seconds of seed and

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Speaker 5: the rest of the day is sleep. They can inpact.

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Speaker 5: One of my colleagues, Daniel, likes to say they may

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Speaker 5: be fast, but usually they're fast to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I read somewhere that they're rated one of

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Speaker 2: the best dogs for apartment living because they don't need

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Speaker 2: to run around that much.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, they don't even need a garden. I mean they

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Speaker 5: can live in a garden, they can live in an apartment,

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Speaker 5: but you know, a twenty minute walk around the block

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Speaker 5: in the morning and then they'll sleep for the rest

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Speaker 5: of the day while you're working.

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Speaker 3: It's a perfect dog.

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Speaker 2: What about people that are concerned, because of course the

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Speaker 2: ones that have been in the industry are trying to

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Speaker 2: chase after a little rabbit. What about concerns that they

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Speaker 2: go little dogs and they go other little mammals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fair concern. Well, they're all this, yes,

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Speaker 5: and some of them just are simply not interested like

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Speaker 5: some of mine and the others. You know, they once

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Speaker 5: they have been a yes, we know which ones are

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Speaker 5: going to be better not around small animals, and we

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Speaker 5: just make sure we put them in a home where

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Speaker 5: they're not around small animals. And we do encourage new

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Speaker 5: owners to use precautions like you know, having a muzzle

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Speaker 5: on them when they first go out a few times,

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Speaker 5: and just until they get to really know the dog,

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Speaker 5: until the dog knows that it's a pet now it

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Speaker 5: doesn't need to chase things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so what does their rehoming process involve for

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Speaker 3: both the dog and adopter? You mentioned some things there,

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Speaker 3: but is their trial periods that sort of thing?

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Speaker 11: Is there?

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Speaker 3: What sorry trial periods?

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Speaker 5: They're thought it? So what happens is that dogs get

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Speaker 5: assessed when they first come into the rehoming program and

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Speaker 5: then we match them based on that to adopters. So

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Speaker 5: once an adopter comes to us, they fill out an

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Speaker 5: application form and we match them with what we believe

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Speaker 5: is going to be the perfect dog. Then really we

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Speaker 5: support them through that. So we support them pre adoption,

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Speaker 5: during adoption, and post adoption to make sure we've done

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Speaker 5: everything we can to make that adoption a success, because

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Speaker 5: we all want to see their dogs stay there forever.

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Speaker 2: So how can people help out? How can people get involved?

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Speaker 2: How can they get themselves a greyhound?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, so they just need to jump on our website.

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Speaker 5: So Greyhounds is pets Dot or body and sad the know,

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Speaker 5: go along to some of our events, but you know,

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Speaker 5: come along and meet our rehomers, like putting in an

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Speaker 5: application and start meeting some dogs. It's it's as easy

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Speaker 5: as that, really, And once once we've talked to talk

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Speaker 5: to our adopts, then we met your dog to them.

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Speaker 5: And that's the other thing is they can foster. They

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Speaker 5: can foster to a dolt. If they want to foster

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Speaker 5: a dog, then adopt it, you know, sometimes it's a

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Speaker 5: good way to go. And then of course there's the

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Speaker 5: very famous foster fails. And I don't think there's one

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Speaker 5: staff member that isn't haven't got a couple of foster

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Speaker 5: fails in their house exactly, and we encourage that. We

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Speaker 5: encourage that, you know, and then there's you know, there's

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Speaker 5: lots of there's the ways opportunities for people to volunteer

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Speaker 5: at at events, to come along and help us introduce

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Speaker 5: people to greyhounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty lean dogs, but obviously very big dogs.

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Speaker 3: Are they expensive to feed or are they don't eat

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Speaker 3: that much?

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Speaker 5: They don't really get that much, to be honest, they

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Speaker 5: don't eat as much as you'd stand a gymanship for instance.

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Speaker 5: Not too bad. They're pretty low maintenance, easy to easy

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Speaker 5: to keep dogs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like the perfect pet. Yeah, Lisa, the

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Speaker 3: perfect pet, all the very best to you. So if

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Speaker 3: people want a bit more information, where can they go?

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Speaker 3: You mentioned a couple of the dropping sessions there. But

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Speaker 3: you've got a website, yeah.

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Speaker 5: We do, So go to www dot greyhounds as pets

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Speaker 5: dot org dot nz. You'll find everything you need there.

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Speaker 5: You'll find our contact numbers and you'll find the application form.

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Speaker 5: Which doesn't mean we're going to tune up on your

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Speaker 5: doorstep with a greyhound. It means we're going to start

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Speaker 5: the conversation with you and match you with the perfect one.

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Speaker 2: Good on you and what a cool story with the

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Speaker 2: Simpson's Lane can send as little helper. It's very very

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Speaker 2: awesome and it's so cool. Yeah, you're doing great work

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks so much, Lisa, Thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for having a chat with us, and all the best

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Speaker 3: with that campaign. Again, if you're interested in adopting a Greyhound,

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Speaker 3: which are fantastic stick dogs, just go to Greyhounds as

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Speaker 3: Pets dot org, dot n Z well Worth it right

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Speaker 3: beg very shortly. It is eleven minutes to fourth.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used

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Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. It is seven minutes to four.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what I'm excited about this weekend? The Last Ways,

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Speaker 2: the last race of the F one season with the

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Speaker 2: driver's championship still up for grabs. You've got Lando on

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Speaker 2: four I eight, Max on three nine six and Pstree

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Speaker 2: on three nine two. So if Lando podiums and his

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Speaker 2: McLaren he wins the driver's championship, but don't count out Max.

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Speaker 2: For Stappan, you gotta love his confidence. So listen to

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Speaker 2: this from the pre weekend press conference. So with the

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Speaker 2: other two potential condend contenders on the couch with him.

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Speaker 27: I mean true, if you luks the same, you know

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Speaker 27: four of those at homes, so it's nice to add

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Speaker 27: a fifth. Yeah, I mean, I know my signature so seem.

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Speaker 2: Such a d shrinker with the other guys. I've got

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Speaker 2: four of them at home on the shelf. You know

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Speaker 2: another one would be nice. So good, I love a

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Speaker 2: what a man, very very exciting. I can't believe it's

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Speaker 2: come down to the last race. So very good. And

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Speaker 2: go Liam, who's now got a secure seat, so so

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Speaker 2: very good. Hey, look, thank you so much for listening everyone.

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Speaker 2: As always, we've loved our chats today. It's been a

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Speaker 2: fantastic old time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and we get so many great New Zealanders calling

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01:50:36,452 --> 01:50:39,253
Speaker 3: through that every Friday we pick a caller of the week,

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Speaker 3: and this week we asked why Kiwis are so blim

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Speaker 3: and negative about this beautiful land of plenty we call home,

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01:50:44,893 --> 01:50:47,293
Speaker 3: always wanting to put the booten. When we got a

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Speaker 3: call from Glenn from South Africa, who wanted to give

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Speaker 3: all the wines a verbal uppercut.

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Speaker 28: Coming to New Zealand and seeing what the rest of

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Speaker 28: the world's like I always say to people of New Zealand,

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01:50:57,293 --> 01:51:00,933
Speaker 28: is like living in a postclard. It is just you

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01:51:01,013 --> 01:51:04,093
Speaker 28: want to be here all the time. We've traveled extensively.

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Speaker 28: The beaches are great, the crime late rage is rich

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Speaker 28: in north. The fact is you can have a dog

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Speaker 28: and go pace with it, and every single beach is pristine.

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Speaker 28: Everything works as first world. There's there's just absolute splendid

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Speaker 28: to live here. And I find we always have the

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Speaker 28: naysayers that are betend themselves and then we have something

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Speaker 28: negative to say. There's nowhere else. I would like my

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Speaker 28: family to be there.

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Speaker 3: You go, What a man. That's a message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great message.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The podcast will be up in an hour or so.

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Speaker 2: The great and powerful Heatherdoper c Ellen is up next.

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Speaker 2: But Tyler, now, my good friend, why am I playing

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Speaker 2: this song here? What's the relevance to the show we've

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01:51:44,053 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 2: just had so this?

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Speaker 3: I know this is the Peachhop Boys, but I've got

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Speaker 3: no idea the name of this particular song.

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Speaker 2: Well if I if I give you it, then I

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Speaker 2: give away the competition. It's called rets a very good

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Speaker 2: and it relates to Chris Biship telling potential renters to

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Speaker 2: negotiate with their landlords.

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Speaker 3: I try and get a reduced rates. What a great

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01:52:04,732 --> 01:52:06,692
Speaker 3: chat that was, and what a great tune this is.

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Speaker 2: All right, have a great weekend everyone until Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Give him a taste of keiwe from Tyler and I love.

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Speaker 4: You because.

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Speaker 18: Sometimes see work means so little money, lass when you

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Speaker 18: are lying to me. Look at my house, look at

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Speaker 18: my break we spend, look a look at.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler. For more from News Talk st B,

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Speaker 1: listen live on air or online, and keep our shows

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