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Speaker 1: Now we've got the annual Health New Zealand survey results.

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Speaker 1: Eighty five percent of us say we're in good health.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the point of that is. Ninety

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Speaker 1: seven percent of children they're in the same state. Apparently

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Speaker 1: more kids are in homes that run out of food,

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Speaker 1: though fifty percent of adults aren't exercising enough and wait

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Speaker 1: times are up as well. Wait times places like GPS

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Speaker 1: University of Auckland health economist Paula L. Gelly as well

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Speaker 1: as PAULA very good morning to you Cia Mike is

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Speaker 1: asking people whether they're in good health of any use

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Speaker 1: to anybody at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the only way we do understand

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Speaker 2: how people feel. Obviously, you can have a iconic condition

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Speaker 2: and that might get picked up in some health records,

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Speaker 2: but actually, you know, having a barometer on the health

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Speaker 2: of the population, this is a great way of doing it.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the numbers and believe the numbers,

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Speaker 1: then the health system, I'm led to believe by the media,

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Speaker 1: is on the verge of collapse in all sorts of

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Speaker 1: different areas. And yet if you ask your averter of

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Speaker 1: New Zealand, do they're feeling fine? How do you square

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Speaker 1: that circle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they are feeling fine. But I think that's

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Speaker 2: just a something as an of the question. You know,

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Speaker 2: are you and how is your health today? Excellent, good,

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Speaker 2: very good, fear or poor? And it's all relative to

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe some expectation of what you think it

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Speaker 2: should be or others around you are like, and you know,

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Speaker 2: and how you're facing with aging.

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Speaker 1: And looking at that both there is sorry, carry.

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Speaker 2: On, There is indication in the survey that the health

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Speaker 2: system is in crisis, so as you noted, so we're

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Speaker 2: struggling still to get a GP appointment and there are

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Speaker 2: less attendances at GPS, and actually now as a corollery,

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Speaker 2: there are more people attending emergency department, you know, and

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Speaker 2: that's because it's free and it's not constrained between nine

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Speaker 2: and five you say, still have to wait. So you know,

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Speaker 2: that's a reflection, I guess on the cost of living

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Speaker 2: in the crisis in the primary care sector.

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Speaker 1: What do you read on vaping? The smoking, smoking's down,

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Speaker 1: vapings up, or we're simply replacing one with another.

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Speaker 2: It looks that way. So we've really flattered in this

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Speaker 2: last year. We were on this amazing steady decline and

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Speaker 2: we could have done that additional push that was repealed

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Speaker 2: in Parliament, and now it looks like vaping has taken over.

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Speaker 2: Of course we don't know the harms of vaping yet,

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Speaker 2: so we have now more people vaping. I mean, one

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Speaker 2: in four eighteen to twenty four year olds of vaping

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Speaker 2: and that's horrendous statistic.

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Speaker 1: It's not good. Pull. I appreciate your time, Paula Gelli,

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Speaker 1: who's the University of Auckland health economists. For more from

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