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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB twenty four minutes passed in on newstalk's 'b're with

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Speaker 2: Jack Tayman. It is screen time time on your Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Very excited about this one. We've got three fantastic news shows.

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Speaker 2: Chris Schultz is here with his recommendations in studio, and

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Speaker 2: these are three shows that I reckon. I'm gonna love Chris,

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Speaker 2: so I'm stoked about that. Let's begin with June Prophecy,

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Speaker 2: which is streaming on Neon.

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Speaker 3: Do you want the bad news?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe two out of three, two out of three.

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Speaker 2: I take two out of three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like you massive June fan. Right Like, when

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Speaker 3: we came out of that horrible five month lockdown, the

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Speaker 3: first thing I did was go to a cinema and

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Speaker 3: see June one, and it blew my mind. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: best sci fi movie we've seen. Earlier this year, they

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Speaker 3: repeated the track with June two, Bigger, better, weirder, noisier.

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Speaker 3: So studio executives have obviously said, kaching, let's make a

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Speaker 3: TV show, Let's make more of this, Let's give the

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Speaker 3: fans more. Because these have been such a hit in

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Speaker 3: the movie theaters. This has been troubled this show producers

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Speaker 3: have dropped out an evil and you dropped out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: showrunners changed. This is a prequel, right, so it's set

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Speaker 3: ten thousand years before June. And this is the problem

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Speaker 3: when you're trying to fill in backstory where the movies

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Speaker 3: kind of hint at this stuff and it's just kind

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Speaker 3: of there, right, And then if you're going back and

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Speaker 3: trying to fill in those blanks, it's not really a story.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of fan service, right. So the first episode

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Speaker 3: of this is just a brutal historical explanation of things

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Speaker 3: that happened. The first twenty minutes is just voiceover really

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Speaker 3: of like someone opening a June encyclopedia and reading to

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Speaker 3: you what happened. It's it's honestly some of the hardest

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Speaker 3: TV I've ever had to sit through. Yeah, Okay, which

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Speaker 3: is a shame, right, because June is so cool. Of course,

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Speaker 3: like the mec in it, the toy that, like the

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Speaker 3: armor and.

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Speaker 2: And everything is amazing. Okay, but maybe if you're a

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Speaker 2: Dune fan, just avoid this one and just pretend it

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Speaker 2: never happened. Maybe that could ever the approach to June prophecy.

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Speaker 2: Probably yeah, Okay, well, I'm cautiously optimistic. The second pick

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Speaker 2: is going to be a bit more promising. Say Nothing

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Speaker 2: is an amazing book by Patrick Rad and Keith. I

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Speaker 2: think we've talked about it on the show before. It's

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Speaker 2: honestly one of my favorite nonfiction reads ever, and it's

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Speaker 2: just been adapted for a new show on Disney Plus.

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Speaker 3: Well, Patrick Rad and Keith does something kind of miraculous.

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Speaker 3: He takes these huge topics and he turns them into

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Speaker 3: page turners. He dies into these stories, like the opioid

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Speaker 3: crisis in America for years, and he talks to everyone,

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Speaker 3: but then he turns them not into historical times, but

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Speaker 3: into like almost that you're reading a movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's like yeah, he turns it almost like

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Speaker 2: it's they call it like literally nonfiction, literary nonfiction. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so Say Nothing is the story of the Troubles.

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Speaker 2: It's a personal story from the troubles.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, So turning that story into a book is

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Speaker 3: hard enough. To then turn it that book into a

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Speaker 3: TV show is even more difficult, but they've done it.

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Speaker 3: Like this has about unlike June, it has about twenty

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Speaker 3: seconds of history. At the start, they just plunk you

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Speaker 3: in Northern Ireland. They say, here's where you're at, here's

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Speaker 3: what's going on, and then they just rip into this

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Speaker 3: story and it just fizzes, This crackles with energy and

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Speaker 3: life and it just draws you in immediately. It's about

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Speaker 3: two sisters at the center of this conflict who kind

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Speaker 3: of grew up with bank robberies and assassinations and bombings

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Speaker 3: and had this real impact on what happened. So it

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Speaker 3: flips all over the place. They tell a story from

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Speaker 3: a vantage point of one of the sisters who's much

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Speaker 3: older and being interviewed, suspecting that this story would never

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Speaker 3: get told, so that's in there, and then they flash

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Speaker 3: back and show you what actually happened. You know what

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Speaker 3: makes us better? What the Irish accent? Oh yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: but it's the same with Bad Sisters. That's why I

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Speaker 3: love that show. It just it just makes it, saying

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Speaker 3: almost had the subtitles on, but it's really good. This

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, great, So that's say nothing because the way

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Speaker 2: just for people who don't maybe know the background of

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Speaker 2: the book, and obviously the TV show, the way it

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Speaker 2: have the university wrong there. But after the Troubles, they

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Speaker 2: and so they had archivists go over to Northern Ireland

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Speaker 2: conflict on the proviso that those interviews would never be

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Speaker 2: for the historical record. It's not going to be released

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Speaker 2: for decades until well after your death, you know, to

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Speaker 2: your family's not going to affected all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: But then I think there have been some legal challenges

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Speaker 2: around those actual archives. So once the kind of US

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Speaker 2: been involved with murders during the troubles who had given

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Speaker 2: up interviews about that then all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: were like, hang on, we want to listen to those

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Speaker 2: recordings as well. From journalistically, it was very complex.

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Speaker 3: And somewhere along the way, Patrick raden Keeps got his

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Speaker 3: hand this book and that's how we ended up with

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Speaker 3: the amazing TV show.

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Speaker 2: This sounds sounds really good, so say nothing is on

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Speaker 2: Disney Plus. Also on Disney Plus very much looking forward

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Speaker 2: to this Endurance. Knew it.

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Speaker 3: I picked this one for you. Yeah, this is incredible.

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Speaker 3: This is about the nineteen fourteen ship, the Endurance, inern

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Speaker 3: Ad Shackleton left Europe looking for the South Pole. He

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Speaker 3: wanted to be famous for finding the South Pole. You

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Speaker 3: got a crew of twenty four people. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's any spoiler to say the boat got stuck in

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Speaker 3: ice and eventually sank, and they went on this endurance,

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Speaker 3: this incredible attempt at survival when for years. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: this documentary is about that. The incredible thing is they

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Speaker 3: had a cameraman, Yeah, on the boat. They've got footage

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Speaker 3: of the boat sinking. It's all colorized and restored. Them

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Speaker 3: living on the ice. It's fascinating. But there's that, and

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Speaker 3: then parallel to that is a story of them looking

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Speaker 3: for the shipwreck. It's one of the last shipwrecks, yeah,

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Speaker 3: to be found. So on twenty twenty one team of

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Speaker 3: explorers during COVID went down. They're a great place to

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Speaker 3: be probably during that time on a boat in the

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Speaker 3: middle of nowhere. They kind of go through the same thing.

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Speaker 3: They get stuck in ice, They've got a submersible, they're

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Speaker 3: scanning the ocean floor. They're running up against these deadlines, weather,

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Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. And again, I think we

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Speaker 3: all remember the headlines from that time. They don't have

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Speaker 3: a documentary if they don't find this thing. So the

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Speaker 3: reveal in this movie is just extraordinary. The footage is incredible,

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Speaker 3: but juxtaposed with the footage of these survivors at the

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Speaker 3: together to this kind of climax. I don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: a nerdy film. You know, it's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: But but I feel like, I mean, everyone's everyone who

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Speaker 2: knows the story is a Shackleton man, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just it's such a ridiculously, such a ridiculous and

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Speaker 2: epic story of survival. The leadership, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just like rowing these boats across icy landscapes with no

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Speaker 3: food and like finding these deserted islands and then setting

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Speaker 3: off again because no one was there, Like it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: during all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mind is that much on Frank Worsley, you know,

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Speaker 2: who's the Kiwi guy who was one of one of

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Speaker 2: Shackleton's central guys there they paid a fair but a

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Speaker 2: role with the photographs and stuff as well.

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Speaker 3: I think he gets a mention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, maybe he was. He was one of the

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Speaker 2: he was from one of the key guys on that.

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Speaker 2: On that Yeah, on the epic journey. So yeah, very good.

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Speaker 2: That sounds amazing too. So that's on Disney Plus. That's

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Speaker 2: Endurance Say Nothing is also on Disney Plus and June Prophecy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Competer the other two. I'm gonna be honest, Chris,

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Speaker 2: it's a bit of a no brainer this week. But

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Speaker 2: that's on Neon. So maybe for the absolute most enthusiastic

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Speaker 2: Keen June fans, thank you so much, very good to

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Speaker 2: see him. Pasicals.

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