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Speaker 1: Barry soapers with me.

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Speaker 2: High Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Now Barry, So, we've had the stand off for the

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Speaker 1: Cooks resolved?

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Speaker 2: No, we haven't. Interestingly, we saw Chris Luxon with Mark Brown.

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Speaker 2: They seem to be getting on quite well, but the

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Speaker 2: standoff remains that it seems that the two leaders have

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Speaker 2: left it for officials to sort out, which I find

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Speaker 2: quite surprising. Mark Brown has simply been unavailable up until now.

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Speaker 2: He had to obviously talk to Chris Luxon at the

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Speaker 2: Pacific Islands Forum. So they did talk, but was it cordial?

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Speaker 2: Looked cordial, I've got to say, but it didn't really

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Speaker 2: resolve anything, and the Cook Islands are still being very

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Speaker 2: shady about the deal that they did with China. Interestingly,

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Speaker 2: the big players like China and the US were banned

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Speaker 2: by Honey Aarra from the Pacific Islands Forum this year,

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Speaker 2: and normally they have observer's status, so they say that

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Speaker 2: they wanted to concentrate on things in the Pacific rather

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Speaker 2: than looking at the wider picture. But I would have

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Speaker 2: thought now is the very time that you want dialogue

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Speaker 2: with the big players like China and the US. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: they were reminded of China's influence because the Pacific Islands

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Speaker 2: Forum was right next door to the mammoth ten thousand

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Speaker 2: seat National Stadium built at a cost of one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seven million dollars by the Chinese in Holliara. Now,

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Speaker 2: back in twenty nineteen, Taiwan had originally offered to build

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Speaker 2: that stadium, but they would have to the Solomon Islands

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Speaker 2: would have to pay the money back, so China jumped

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Speaker 2: in and built it for them. So certainly the presence

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Speaker 2: of Beijing was very much to the four in Holliara,

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Speaker 2: but without any representation.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, now, you weren't here yesterday when we were discussing

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Speaker 1: Stuart Nash, So what do you reckon? What's your take

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Speaker 1: on whether he has a future at New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: First, I think, look, Winston Peters. Even though Stuart Nash

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Speaker 2: has made a groveling apology for what was a very

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Speaker 2: unfortunate comment he made about what a woman is, I mean,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, I understand that his wife's very upset

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Speaker 2: about it. Not surprisingly, Winston Peters though, it's a bit

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Speaker 2: like water off a duck's back in a way, because

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Speaker 2: I watched him with the media and how he handled it.

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Speaker 2: He's not Stuart Nash's keeper, or certainly at the moment

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Speaker 2: he's not. And I think given watching Winston Peters and

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Speaker 2: I know him pretty well, I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: going to stand in the way. It's Stuart Nash getting

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Speaker 2: the nod for New Zealand first at the next election.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the Maori Party? Something funny is

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Speaker 1: all on here?

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Speaker 2: Well? Absolutely, the Takuta Ferris stuff is just appalling. And

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Speaker 2: he tripled down as you played some audio from him

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Speaker 2: at the airport last night. I don't know where this

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Speaker 2: man's head is at and I certainly don't know where

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Speaker 2: his head was at midnight when he made the the

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Speaker 2: video in a darkened room, which was rather strange. But

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Speaker 2: look madame and a Cappa Kinghi, you know her being

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Speaker 2: stood down as the whip and being taken by a

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Speaker 2: DeBie wrote.

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Speaker 1: I just finished your sentence.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you very much for me, because you know

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Speaker 2: exactly what I'm going to say. But but yeah, and

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Speaker 2: she seemed very disappointed that she had lost that whips job.

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Speaker 2: It was worth an extra twenty grand paypack. Thing that

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Speaker 2: surprises me really is where were the Maori Party this week?

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Speaker 2: They put on a fleeting visit to Parliament and apparently

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Speaker 2: they were out on their electorates. Didn't anybody tell them

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Speaker 2: that Parliament resumed after a recess this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you're upset about this. They never

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Speaker 1: turn up.

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Speaker 2: Well, they should turn up. They being paid by the

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Speaker 2: taxpayer to represent Mali in Parliament. They're not there. Who

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Speaker 2: are they representing?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is fair, this is a fair point. Really quickly,

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Speaker 1: I've got only about thirty seconds, but I do want

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Speaker 1: your take on the Greens wanting the Mary Ward referendum delayed.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why they wrote to the Electoral

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Speaker 2: Commission because they have nothing to do with the local

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Speaker 2: body election. That was a woman that should know better,

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Speaker 2: the former mayor of Wellington. But look, there's about four

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Speaker 2: councils that haven't put the profiles of the candidates standing

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Speaker 2: for the MARI Awards on the ballot papers. Now you

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Speaker 2: know that is a big o' mission. But forty two

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Speaker 2: councils have to now go to referendum and put it

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Speaker 2: to the people whether they want mari a wards. That'll

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Speaker 2: still go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant Barry, Thanks very much. We'll wrap the political week

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Speaker 1: that was the New Quarter pass six Barry Soapers senior

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Speaker 1: political correspondent.

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