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Speaker 1: So movement at the GPS with a new incentive payment

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Speaker 1: for primary clinics to hire graduate nurses and new twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven digital service for advice and scripts, as

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Speaker 1: well as one hundred placements for overseas trained doctors two

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollars for GPS who open

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Speaker 1: their books. The College for GP's president, Samantha mertons with

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Speaker 1: as Samantha, good morning to you, good morning, How are

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Speaker 1: you very well? Indeed, this has got to be good news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the biggest price we've head into general practice

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Speaker 2: for a very long time. So it's excellent to have

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Speaker 2: this investments. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Why then am I listening to the news bulletins this

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Speaker 1: morning full of people moaning.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people will feel like

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Speaker 2: it's a drop in the bucket because there is so

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Speaker 2: much that needs to change in so much movement. We

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Speaker 2: need that having some feels like we need we need

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Speaker 2: so much more. But I think the thing about it

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Speaker 2: is we do need to start somewhere. No one's going

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Speaker 2: to say, look, here, have double your money and to

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Speaker 2: see how you go with it. We need to start incrementally.

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Speaker 2: And there was a intimation that there would be more.

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Speaker 2: So this is just the parts of it that we

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Speaker 2: know that we can do. We've got that we want

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Speaker 2: nurses just get nieces and support them to do their

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Speaker 2: training in primary care rather than the hospital. That's got

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Speaker 2: to be a good thing because otherwise they'll just stand

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Speaker 1: Because it is to the Prime Minister at the press

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Speaker 1: conference yesterday, once again he reiterated what I thought was

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Speaker 1: an exceedingly obvious thing. If you help at the GP level,

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Speaker 1: you're going to save at the ED end, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh totally, you absolutely are right.

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Speaker 1: So these doctors, by the way, the overseas trained doctors,

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Speaker 1: are they that far removed from what they need to

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Speaker 1: be in New Zealand. If you come from Australia or

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Speaker 1: Britain or India or whatever it is, whatever training you

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Speaker 1: received overseas, that weird and wonderful that you have to

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Speaker 1: be retrained.

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Speaker 2: Here for people who have trained in a jurisdiction that's

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Speaker 2: very different from ours. So it might be someone who's

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Speaker 2: trained in a setting in say China, where you don't

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Speaker 2: Pakistan or various countries that have not do not have

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Speaker 2: the same system as we do. So then they come

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Speaker 2: then they have to do two years to get to

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Speaker 2: their general registration so that they could go off and

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Speaker 2: do vocational training in any area they want to. That's

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Speaker 2: always been that two years has always been in a

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Speaker 2: take up the volume, and primary or general practice never

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Speaker 2: get to them. So being able to shift those people

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Speaker 2: to do their provisional training in the general practice setting

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Speaker 2: where they see so much stuff, any reathing that they can.

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Speaker 2: I had a lady who came from the Philippines and

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Speaker 2: she has done several of her students and in the

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Speaker 2: hospital and then came in to see us and went

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Speaker 2: for her second year with us, and the first day

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Speaker 2: she goes, I feel like a real doctor because we

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Speaker 2: do absolutely everything every day. So it's a great place

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Speaker 2: for people to let, excellent place for people to learn.

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Speaker 2: We do need the capacity for those training them to

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Speaker 2: supervise them, and that's one of the sticking points that

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Speaker 2: we need to work on, which is how do we

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Speaker 2: make sure people can supervise their students in a way

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Speaker 1: So the twenty four to seven digital thing strikes me

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Speaker 1: as should have been done ten years ago. And I

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Speaker 1: mean to be able to click, and I mean that's

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Speaker 1: just more common sense, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And I think people want to be

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Speaker 2: able to get their care straight away and having it

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Speaker 2: digital on tap when you need it is an excellent thing.

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Speaker 2: And when you are not able to travel, I mean

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Speaker 2: I still people still drive to lots of places. They

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Speaker 2: drive to the hospital, they drive to edging here, and

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Speaker 2: having an online service is a great way. You cannot

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Speaker 2: do everything online, but you can do a lot online.

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Speaker 2: And if I have patients I talk to every week,

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Speaker 2: do this consultation online because we're just following results. They've

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Speaker 2: got somethings that are really easy to cover. But I think,

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Speaker 2: you know you're not going to have Are you going

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Speaker 2: to have a pharmacy open at eleven o'clock at night?

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Speaker 2: Probably not, So there's still be.

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Speaker 1: A little bit. But I have you had a busy day,

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Speaker 1: you go nine point fifteen, you click, and you get

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Speaker 1: your script and you're there for the next morning, Archie,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to driving and waiting and checking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it all makes sense. To meet Samantha. Yeah, nice to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Appreciate Samantha Merton and so much moaning

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Speaker 1: in this country. Why couldn't Retty have come up with that?

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Speaker 1: What was Ritty doing all that time? You know, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about click and collecting the script? Why why

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Speaker 1: wasn't this announced, you know, six months ago.

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