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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeast International Realty,

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Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other do.

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Speaker 2: All right, Danny.

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Speaker 3: Goes on the pool, on the pool the way.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't go for sex.

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Speaker 1: It does He does it in style.

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Speaker 2: He brings up fifty Harry Brook.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's taking up follows your little ripper tied it away.

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Speaker 3: So for Americ grams in the one Head Sports Hudle.

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Speaker 3: This evening, Adam Cooper hosted the All Sports Breakfasts in

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Speaker 3: Wellington and Andrew Gordy in ZIB's key we head of Communications.

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Speaker 3: High lads, got ahead up Copsey, there there we are good. Okay,

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Speaker 3: We've got both of you prisent and accounted for. GORDI,

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Speaker 3: did you see that catch from Phillips? It was actually amazing?

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Speaker 5: Did I see the catch? Hither? I saw a fantastic catch.

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Speaker 5: Glenn Phillips.

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Speaker 2: He's got a real He's got form in this area,

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Speaker 2: hasn't he. He's fantastic in the field. He's an energizer bunny,

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Speaker 2: So no surprise to see him take that catch. But

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Speaker 2: can I just stop and pause for a moment to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge the power of radio. We just sort of witnessed,

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Speaker 2: or at least heard from Andrew Ordison just before the

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Speaker 2: Power of Radio just to mention the caramel slice here

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Speaker 2: though I have the same reaction to you. I'm not pregnant,

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Speaker 2: and I have the same reaction as you made. And

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Speaker 2: I'm actually wondering if what we really need from orders

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Speaker 2: is not a review of the day's cricket. We need

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Speaker 2: a review of the bay. Because you're absolutely right, Aldis

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Speaker 2: will be tapping into the bar bay and probably a

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Speaker 3: Have you though, Gordy, have you got caramel slice in

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Speaker 3: the house.

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Speaker 2: I don't have caramel slice house, but I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: within two hours I probably will.

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Speaker 3: Oh good from you. I've already got it. This is

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Speaker 3: the kind of level of high operation that we're operating

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Speaker 3: in the in my household. I've got it for instances

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Speaker 3: like that, and I will be going home and eating it.

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Speaker 3: Why not Uber eats it over from her coops. List

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Speaker 3: of the guys here in the in the newsroom are

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Speaker 3: saying that they've immediately because of Russian revender catch Revender

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Speaker 3: catching the edge and the English guys not realizing that

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Speaker 3: actually the umpire should be able to step in here

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Speaker 3: and say that was a wicked and he's out. I

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Speaker 3: hate the idea. What do you think?

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, I totally agree with you. Either you know,

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Your it's tough if if you're the fielding team and

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Speaker 4: yet you don't get the opportunity. A big part of

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Speaker 4: cricketers is the appeal. It's sensing, sensing the opportunities and

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Speaker 4: knowing when to put your hand hands up as make

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Speaker 4: it and make as much noise as you think you

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Speaker 4: should to try and convince the umpire. It's part of

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Speaker 4: the art of cricket. That's how it's always been. And

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Speaker 4: I don't think there should be a the umpire that

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Speaker 4: can sort of off his own that you don't call

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Speaker 4: it without an appeal or any intervention, as as some

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Speaker 4: might suggest from from any you know, third umpire or

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Speaker 3: So keep it.

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Speaker 4: You keep the players responsible for questioning and putting up

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Speaker 4: their flight for a decision like that.

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Speaker 5: I reckon, Hey, did you reckon.

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Speaker 3: Damien McKenzie is the best first five in the world.

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Speaker 5: No, he's not even the best first five eighth in

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it, that's not to say that

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Speaker 2: I don't have a great deal of admiration for Damien McKenzie,

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Speaker 2: fact I wanted him to get in another opportunity the

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Speaker 2: I'm probably going to pick Boden Barratt and put Will

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Speaker 5: And that's without even having had a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, you're not picking Richie.

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Speaker 5: Well, I can't pick them for the All Blacks at

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Speaker 3: What if we change the rules for you?

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Speaker 5: Are you changing them for me or are you changing

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Speaker 3: I'm changing them for all of us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, this is a deep debate.

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Speaker 2: How deep do you want to go on this debate here?

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Speaker 2: Because I personally don't think we should be picking Richie

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Speaker 2: I think the rule I need to change to allow

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Speaker 2: Rugby needs to get real about the situation they're facing

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Speaker 2: right here, and that is that players can earn a

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Speaker 5: So they need to open it up and.

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Speaker 2: Allow players better opportunities, better commercial opportunities, and allow them

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Speaker 2: to capitalize on the clear commercial opportunities that exist within

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Speaker 2: not only New Zealand, but Australia as well and the

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Speaker 2: keep all Blacks within this competition and let those players.

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Speaker 5: Play for you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Coops, let's get your taken on it after the break.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the sports hitdle Adam Cooper and

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Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy. Coops, what do you think of loosening up

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Speaker 3: the old eligibility rules for the all Blacks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think something does need to change. I mean

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Speaker 4: I'm still a purist and I think that you know,

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Speaker 4: at a domestic level does need to be protected in

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Speaker 4: some ways, but I do think it's pretty archaic having

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Speaker 4: considered for a sabbatical. But I think these kinds of

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Speaker 4: decisions to actually be made on a case by case basis.

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Speaker 4: You know, some common sense assess you know what lies ahead,

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Speaker 4: and a richie wrong his case. You know, he could

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Speaker 4: have had a case where he's obviously nowhere near seventy

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Speaker 4: for him, but forty's on a rugby and where they

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Speaker 4: are now. But I actually think they need to do

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Speaker 4: all they can to get him back. It was a

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Speaker 4: mistake letting him go. They're going to have to break

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Speaker 5: But you know, hopefully if.

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Speaker 4: They are bringing him back, they learn from this and

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Speaker 3: Goodie, now let me get this right o case. So

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Speaker 3: you think the rules should change, but not for Richie?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Not for Richie because he's playing in Japan. What I'd

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Speaker 2: give you is that Ardie Savi can go and play

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Speaker 2: for the New South Wales Warritors and he can pick

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Speaker 2: Rugby needs to get their head around. Allow that freedom

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Speaker 2: more money by representing.

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Speaker 3: Allow them to go off and play if they want

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Speaker 3: to play in Ireland, will play in Japan and come

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to weaken the weaken our domestic competitions

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Speaker 2: massively like Super Rugby will will suffer very badly in NPC.

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Speaker 2: I'd argue might just die. So it's all about protecting

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Speaker 5: Yes, but the reality is that the floodgates.

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Speaker 2: Or that we opened the door to this when Dan

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Speaker 2: Carter went on sabbatical way back and what was it

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Speaker 2: about two thousand and eight. Yeah, and now it's like

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Speaker 2: the Oprah Winfrey mean, you know, you get a sabbatical,

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Speaker 2: You get a sabbatical.

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Speaker 5: Everyone gets a sabbatical.

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Speaker 2: And so now it's taken about fifteen or so years

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to take the money. And

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Speaker 2: he's played to Rugby World Cups. He hasn't had success obviously,

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Speaker 2: I've got to go and earn my money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Listen, really quick take from you on this, please, coops.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the next time someone who leads

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Speaker 4: Yes, Ah, They're going to have to delve into it

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Speaker 4: a lot more, I think, and you know, to a

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Speaker 4: few more, few more checks and balance. Yeah, it's certainly

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Speaker 4: probably just yeah, just to sended up a far worse situation.

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Speaker 4: So I expect a lot more scrutiny around around where

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think we talked on Monday here

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Speaker 4: the four days on. It's kind of gone away now

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Speaker 4: it was ten seconds of the start of it.

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Speaker 3: You wait until you see the text machine after you've

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Speaker 3: finished talking mat and they're still angry about it. What

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Speaker 1: Goodie?

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Speaker 2: What I'll say is this here that people like Adam

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Speaker 2: Cooper and I have sat in front of so many

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Speaker 2: sit there sometimes begging them to say something, do something

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Speaker 2: that is going to be half interesting. So if you

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Speaker 2: think that I'm going to come on your program this

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Speaker 2: afternoon and crucify TJ. Pett something different, you can think.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a fair point.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 3: It's lovely to talk to you. Enjoy your cricket and

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