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Speaker 1: It seems odd, but it was revealed at a recent

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Speaker 1: seafood conference that exporters are still paying tariffs on there

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Speaker 1: are goods despite the fact they can access the benefits

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Speaker 1: of free trade deals. In other words, they should be

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Speaker 1: paying no tariffs at all, but forty percent of them

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Speaker 1: are paying unnecessary tariffs, for example, to the UK. So

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? Our Seafood New Zealand CEO Lisa

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Speaker 1: Putchick is with us on this. Lisa, very good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: This is the weirdest story, is it true? Look, it's

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Speaker 1: not a.

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Speaker 2: Weird story at all. We've uncovered the fact that it

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Speaker 2: appears that we are not taking full advantage of a

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Speaker 2: range of free trade agreements that m FAT has very

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Speaker 2: very successfully negotiated on our part. So we're in the

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Speaker 2: process of getting to the bottom of why that is

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Speaker 2: and to give ourselves the ability to sort it out.

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Speaker 1: Why would you not be taking full advantage?

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Speaker 2: We absolutely should be taking full advantage, but we're just

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Speaker 2: trying to understand exactly where the problem lies. It appears

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Speaker 2: that it is not necessarily with our exporters, but at

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Speaker 2: the import end, because of course it's not our exporters

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Speaker 2: that pay the tawiff. It's their import agents.

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Speaker 1: Right, So would if I export muscles, do I know

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Speaker 1: who my import agent is? And do I deal with

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Speaker 1: them on a regular basis? And would I say something like, hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you do realize we're terror free. Would

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Speaker 1: that level of communication be going on or not?

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Speaker 2: Look, presumably it is, but I think it's probably fair

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Speaker 2: to say that it's a little bit more complicated than that,

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Speaker 2: because of course we're dealing with multiple species, probably an

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Speaker 2: excess of one hundred that we export to one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten different markets, and obviously those are exported by

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Speaker 2: a full range of exporters. So it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: more complicated, Mike, And we're just getting to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of understanding exactly where the problem lies.

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Speaker 1: Because what wouldn't your average person who's exporting know about

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Speaker 1: the free trade deal with Britain and know about the

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Speaker 1: CPTPP for example. I mean, that's in the news. It's

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Speaker 1: all it's part of what we do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. We do know about that, and to

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Speaker 2: the best of our knowledge, we were accessing it, and

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Speaker 2: to be honest, we're not entirely sure the extent to

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Speaker 2: which we're not, which is why we are talking to

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Speaker 2: m FAT. We are working at pace to understand the

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Speaker 2: problem so that we can help our members to access

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Speaker 2: it and get the full benefits on those intes.

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Speaker 1: So when the bloke from NB was at this conference

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Speaker 1: and he estimates FAT estimates forty percent of exporters to

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Speaker 1: the UK, for example, still paying a terriff, you have

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Speaker 1: no idea whether that's correct or not.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's correct. We do need to validate the statistics

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Speaker 2: and some of this information is of course commercially sensitive.

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Speaker 2: So we're just working with m FAT to understand where

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Speaker 2: the issue lies and hopefully by the end of the

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Speaker 2: week will be in a much better position to understand

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Speaker 2: what that is and how we can help our exporters

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Speaker 2: take full advantage of these FTAs well.

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Speaker 1: Without looking to upset you so early in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Is this partially on you in terms of you're not

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Speaker 1: communicating with your industry, or is it on them and

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Speaker 1: they're not communicating with you who aren't communicating with their industry,

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Speaker 1: or is it the fisherman's fault who should know what's

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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, look at the stage, we're just not a portioning

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Speaker 2: blame anywhere. We want to understand the issue so that

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Speaker 2: we can address it.

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Speaker 1: All right, listen, we'll get you back on when you do.

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Speaker 1: You reckon. By the end of the week you might

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Speaker 1: have something.

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Speaker 2: I think by the end of the week we will

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Speaker 2: be closer. But I'd be very happy to come back

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Speaker 2: on once we understand what the issue is and how we're

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Speaker 2: seeking to address that.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic love to talk to you again, Lisa Footchick, who

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Speaker 1: is the Seafood New Zealand CEO. It just seems boring

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Speaker 1: on inconceivable to me that as an exporting nation we're

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Speaker 1: not on top of the exporting rules, or am I

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Speaker 1: being unfair? I mean, I've already given you a dodgy

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Speaker 1: garage information this morning, so from who the hell knows

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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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