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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, the warriors unbeaten

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Speaker 2: start to the NRL season comes to a sudden end.

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Speaker 2: Did Andrew Webster get it wrong? Fast tracking the return

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Speaker 2: of his star half, Plus we hear from Wakefield bound

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Speaker 2: Roger to ivasashek my name is nick Yulee. Let's go

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Speaker 2: God b Helthy. An all too familiar feeling returned on

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Speaker 2: Friday night for whatever reason, and arguably it remains one

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Speaker 2: of the club's biggest hurdles. The Warriors are yet to

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Speaker 2: show on a regular basis that they can win when

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Speaker 2: they are expected to win, especially at home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Quite what it is. The fans get carried away, We

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Speaker 2: the media get carried away, and for the players, they

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Speaker 2: can say what they like. But as a only club

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Speaker 2: in as the only club in town, rather it must

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Speaker 2: be difficult to avoid the hype. It's almost like they

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Speaker 2: preferred to be totally written off. This was a game

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Speaker 2: against the West Tigers. The Warriors should have won, but

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Speaker 2: at ten up they dropped their bundle and you can't

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Speaker 2: do that against anyone in the NRL. Michael Burgess, senior

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Speaker 2: sports writer of the New Zealand Herald. Good to be

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Speaker 2: talking at a rugby league with you again, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with my statement there. I've been following

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Speaker 2: this team a long time and it feels like I've

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Speaker 2: enjoyed more wins when they don't. We don't expect them

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Speaker 2: to do anything rather than the other way around.

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Speaker 4: Mat Yeah, it's been a bug bear, you know, where

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Speaker 4: they thrive on being the underdogs and they have struggled

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Speaker 4: a bit with rising through their occasion and these big occasions.

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Speaker 4: We thought that had gone in twenty twenty three because

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Speaker 4: even last year they did well on big occasions and

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Speaker 4: then faded a bit towards end of the seas and

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Speaker 4: you know, we all know why. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: it was. I mean, if you look at the Rooster's

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Speaker 4: at Mount Smart they were underdogs. You'd have to say

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Speaker 4: this one they definitely weren't. And I think everyone thought

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Speaker 4: the Fortress Mount Smart go media had returned, So it

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Speaker 4: quite a few levels, which I'm sure we'll get into.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to dig into it all very shortly.

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Speaker 2: But first let's just get to the highlights or low lights,

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Speaker 2: depending on your vantage point. Courtesy of sky Sport Warriors

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Speaker 2: fourteen Tigers thirty two, followed by an interview via our

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Speaker 2: colleague Ben Francis with Roger TIVASISHEK, here's.

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Speaker 5: A check off Friday night football and the warrant is

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Speaker 5: the first touch and here's for sher.

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Speaker 3: Harris takes the.

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Speaker 6: First head up. Tiger's under pressure.

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Speaker 5: Here for sher.

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Speaker 7: Harris wants to have a run. Now Reagan and it

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Speaker 7: comes for Boy. Now the BET's move Turtle Turkey. Here

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Speaker 7: it is what nickle Pop's dead, Nicko.

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Speaker 5: Pop down hot, the pass, scars, the try and the tar.

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Speaker 6: Now they say the sex for the Warriors, hegan boy

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Speaker 6: shop all again.

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Speaker 3: The donuts, Bliven scars. Lawyers get this second.

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Speaker 6: We're talking five man.

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Speaker 3: How many times have we call his name tonight?

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Speaker 6: He's been outstanding or puttice up? Here comes doing cuts

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Speaker 3: Its time pot for topic. Tiger's head taruga de's it's a.

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Speaker 6: Pop tart po Tiger's going bet down now they say

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Speaker 3: Help shut down and neither dots it in.

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Speaker 5: Don't do to come for the visitors through the heads

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Speaker 5: they got Dowey. Don't put space for her. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: There's the task bull up.

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Speaker 3: Blasts and you dry it up afar for the targets.

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Speaker 6: On the lender of the part time tax Dad, Thank

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Speaker 6: Dad that work. Maden got the parcel to Dewey. Dewey

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Speaker 5: Us for man and the targets.

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Speaker 6: Hey Tray Sailly Louis. Tigers have ambushed the Warriors and

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Speaker 8: Roger, obviously not the result you wanted tonight out there,

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Speaker 8: but I always has always been good support of the crowd.

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Speaker 9: Yeah it was man here on just turned up today

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Speaker 3: Our fans are awesome. We just want to get the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and obviously it's a bit of a disappointing just

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Speaker 3: What kind of do you think went wrong out there?

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Speaker 3: They played well. They they strike from halfway, they came

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Speaker 8: They got the points. So you know, bings quite well.

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Speaker 8: What are you making kind of that transition to being

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Speaker 3: I think it's awesome. He's doing really well.

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Speaker 9: You know, just where he's taking this team, they'll be

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Speaker 9: playing really well, winning good games. And yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 8: Obviously, news came out today the video dropped on your

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel I feel a little bit bitter that

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Speaker 3: Sort of move on. What what what kind of drew

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Speaker 9: Started with good people and unfortunately there's a few players

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Speaker 9: About you looking forward to the most just different, something

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Speaker 3: Asia.

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Speaker 8: Was there any temptation to go back to the Roosters

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's always you're always got to give props

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Speaker 3: But this was the option that I took, and yeah,

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Speaker 8: And I've been a couple of weeks coming up, part

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Speaker 8: I think every game is going to be messive.

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Speaker 9: Sharks are flying too, so we've got a few days

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Speaker 2: Great to hear they're from Roger to Evasi Sheik via

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Speaker 2: Ben Franci's just firstly on arties Birds before we get

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Speaker 2: into Friday Night's performance. I must have I'm a little

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Speaker 4: He was amazing. Yeah, he was amazing and he'll go

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Speaker 4: No, I've always liked Wakefield Trinity because I find that

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's just it's simple economics at salary

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Speaker 4: makes sense. The other thing was, as he said to Ben,

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand Australia. He's been he's been asked for

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Speaker 2: Totally and no, you can't begrudge him at thirty two

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Speaker 2: for making that decision. I'm sure the money on off

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Speaker 2: once more. Let's get to the game on Friday night

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Speaker 2: because there is a lot to unpack it. But before

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Speaker 2: before we do, four people not on x formerly known

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Speaker 2: as Twitter. This is Michael Burgess at seven fifty six

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Speaker 2: pm on Friday have to say I'm a bit nervous

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Speaker 2: about Metcalfe coming back so early. Would have been happy

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened the back end of that

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Speaker 4: The latter they've been really good. You know, they're being

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Speaker 4: I think they'll be fine. But long range tries are

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Speaker 4: You know, they've got the past wrong. They've slipped over.

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Speaker 4: The Tigers are finishing everything. You know, they make one

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Speaker 1: Why this is going the Big League podcast on the

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Speaker 2: One right, Well, it probably sets up for the most

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Speaker 2: interesting TLT teamless Tuesday of the season thus far. Although

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Speaker 2: if you know Andrew Webster buy now. He'll probably avoid

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Speaker 2: away at Cranulla Burge. I guess there's two schools of

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Speaker 2: but went unused. Luke Hanson played Cup Luke Metcalf. You

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Speaker 2: jerk reaction. But what are you expecting from this team

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Speaker 4: be honest, because it's unexpected. You know, it's not something

434
00:21:43,013 --> 00:21:48,253
Speaker 4: they planned for. They planned for Tanner Boyd to be

435
00:21:48,413 --> 00:21:51,613
Speaker 4: the to be the fill in, to be the intern

436
00:21:52,013 --> 00:21:54,173
Speaker 4: and then the main man comes back. That was in

437
00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:56,853
Speaker 4: their planning. They didn't plan for Tanner boyd as as

438
00:21:56,933 --> 00:21:58,373
Speaker 4: you put it, to shoot the lights out in the

439
00:21:58,413 --> 00:22:01,293
Speaker 4: first three rounds, so they've got some decisions to make.

440
00:22:01,373 --> 00:22:04,253
Speaker 4: I was personally happy that Chanell didn't play. I know

441
00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:06,213
Speaker 4: you said he was fit, but the way he got

442
00:22:06,253 --> 00:22:13,013
Speaker 4: concussed in that match in the in the Raiders game,

443
00:22:13,173 --> 00:22:15,253
Speaker 4: I just think it's one of those really brutal concussions

444
00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:16,693
Speaker 4: that you just need a bit of time. So I

445
00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:18,413
Speaker 4: was happy he didn't get on the field again on

446
00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:22,933
Speaker 4: old fashioned but but yeah, Chanelle is Chanel's underrated. You

447
00:22:22,973 --> 00:22:25,613
Speaker 4: know what he brings on defense, what he brings on effort,

448
00:22:25,693 --> 00:22:28,373
Speaker 4: what he's the kind of guy that things do happen

449
00:22:28,453 --> 00:22:30,773
Speaker 4: around him. He pops up with those opportunist tries. So

450
00:22:31,373 --> 00:22:33,693
Speaker 4: but three into two don't go so at the moment,

451
00:22:33,933 --> 00:22:36,613
Speaker 4: Chanell probably does suit that bench role because he can

452
00:22:36,773 --> 00:22:39,933
Speaker 4: do things off the bench. And I guess for me,

453
00:22:40,053 --> 00:22:43,373
Speaker 4: it'll be up to this is how I play. It'd

454
00:22:43,413 --> 00:22:48,573
Speaker 4: be up to Tanner boy to prove that he continues

455
00:22:48,613 --> 00:22:51,413
Speaker 4: to deserve that seven jersey. If he keeps playing well,

456
00:22:51,573 --> 00:22:53,853
Speaker 4: then that's the way it's got to be. And Metcalf,

457
00:22:53,893 --> 00:22:56,653
Speaker 4: you would think is the second best, sorry is the

458
00:22:56,933 --> 00:22:58,933
Speaker 4: is the best? Six at the club if he's not

459
00:22:59,013 --> 00:23:02,013
Speaker 4: going to be seven. But if Boyd starts to, you know,

460
00:23:02,133 --> 00:23:04,653
Speaker 4: slip his levels again, Webster will start to think about

461
00:23:05,613 --> 00:23:10,493
Speaker 4: going back to the to the Metcalf Chanelle pairing that

462
00:23:10,493 --> 00:23:13,213
Speaker 4: the had last year. But this is not you know,

463
00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:16,213
Speaker 4: So I haven't actually answered your question at all, mate,

464
00:23:16,253 --> 00:23:19,293
Speaker 4: But I think this is something that is kind of

465
00:23:19,333 --> 00:23:22,053
Speaker 4: good because other clubs have the depth as well, and

466
00:23:22,453 --> 00:23:25,333
Speaker 4: it should mean that they have the best thirteen on

467
00:23:25,373 --> 00:23:27,453
Speaker 4: the field and it'll kind of work itself out with

468
00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:29,293
Speaker 4: injuries and fitness and everything else.

469
00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tennant didn't do much wrong on Friday. I

470
00:23:32,013 --> 00:23:33,453
Speaker 2: know his goal kicking all of a sudden, there's a

471
00:23:33,493 --> 00:23:36,693
Speaker 2: bit shaky one from three, but later on the triassis

472
00:23:36,893 --> 00:23:39,653
Speaker 2: for Charles's first Jacob Laban's try on the first half.

473
00:23:40,413 --> 00:23:43,133
Speaker 2: I expect them to be there come team naming tomorrow,

474
00:23:44,413 --> 00:23:45,213
Speaker 2: So you think so?

475
00:23:45,773 --> 00:23:48,013
Speaker 4: Since I'd answered the question, but I was kind of

476
00:23:48,053 --> 00:23:51,173
Speaker 4: saying that, yeah, Boyd and Metcalf, you'd go that way

477
00:23:51,213 --> 00:23:51,493
Speaker 4: as well.

478
00:23:51,693 --> 00:23:53,813
Speaker 2: I think it'll be boy to Metcalf again based on

479
00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,813
Speaker 2: what we saw last week, and I think and Andrew

480
00:23:56,853 --> 00:23:59,373
Speaker 2: Webs has touched on it before. There is real utility

481
00:23:59,493 --> 00:24:03,773
Speaker 2: value in Chanel and the way we don't have time

482
00:24:03,813 --> 00:24:06,333
Speaker 2: on this episode, but the way the game is being

483
00:24:06,373 --> 00:24:10,693
Speaker 2: officiated with set restarts and sixty ends, there's a real

484
00:24:11,733 --> 00:24:15,533
Speaker 2: opportunity I think to use Chanelle as this ball playing

485
00:24:16,213 --> 00:24:20,293
Speaker 2: lock or someone that can come on potentially spell Wade Egan.

486
00:24:20,373 --> 00:24:23,373
Speaker 2: You don't have to use Sam Herley on occasion and

487
00:24:24,093 --> 00:24:27,053
Speaker 2: speed the ruck up. That's the way I'd play it.

488
00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:31,453
Speaker 2: But what do I know fall back. I suspect again, Burge,

489
00:24:31,813 --> 00:24:34,773
Speaker 2: they might go with the same I don't think again

490
00:24:34,813 --> 00:24:37,693
Speaker 2: you want to be making changes for change's sake. Do

491
00:24:37,773 --> 00:24:40,613
Speaker 2: you think they'll go to a picky one and change

492
00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:41,213
Speaker 2: at rot center?

493
00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:43,813
Speaker 4: M that's a tricky one. I mean they you know

494
00:24:43,933 --> 00:24:46,693
Speaker 4: he does like what Chance does at fullback. He's given

495
00:24:46,773 --> 00:24:49,693
Speaker 4: Taen a chance. But as you say, they if they

496
00:24:49,773 --> 00:24:52,573
Speaker 4: think they need that two hundred two hundred and twenty

497
00:24:52,653 --> 00:24:55,253
Speaker 4: meters that Chance will bring just with as pure as

498
00:24:55,373 --> 00:24:58,773
Speaker 4: carries and his energy. But the long term, I hope

499
00:24:58,813 --> 00:25:02,173
Speaker 4: they do nail down a right center and just make

500
00:25:02,213 --> 00:25:04,533
Speaker 4: it permanent. I don't want to have a season where

501
00:25:04,613 --> 00:25:07,173
Speaker 4: they've got Cate. Well, they're sometimes doing a good job,

502
00:25:07,253 --> 00:25:08,773
Speaker 4: but it takes him out a second r then they've

503
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:12,013
Speaker 4: got Lequa sometimes, you know, I just yeah, I just

504
00:25:12,093 --> 00:25:15,253
Speaker 4: hope they work out who the right center is.

505
00:25:15,893 --> 00:25:19,253
Speaker 2: A couple more Dimitric via a manger was that the

506
00:25:19,373 --> 00:25:23,053
Speaker 2: second week he's gone unused or certainly obviously didn't play.

507
00:25:23,453 --> 00:25:27,093
Speaker 2: Friday was one of the two unlucky ones not to

508
00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:31,373
Speaker 2: be utilized. I really like the impact he brings around

509
00:25:31,373 --> 00:25:33,853
Speaker 2: that half hour mark. He's added a sort of ball

510
00:25:33,893 --> 00:25:36,573
Speaker 2: playing element to his game. They've sort of leaned a

511
00:25:36,613 --> 00:25:43,493
Speaker 2: bit more on Marata since his return. Where too for Dmitric.

512
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:49,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you'd ask someone in July August

513
00:25:49,253 --> 00:25:52,053
Speaker 4: last year that he wouldn't be in the seventeen, they'd

514
00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:55,053
Speaker 4: be very surprised because he was excellent. He's been excellent.

515
00:25:55,413 --> 00:26:00,293
Speaker 4: He often brings more impact the liquor does. Even the

516
00:26:00,413 --> 00:26:02,293
Speaker 4: leaker gets noticed a lot. But Dimitric, if you know

517
00:26:02,333 --> 00:26:04,693
Speaker 4: what I mean, over the course of a match, can

518
00:26:04,733 --> 00:26:07,653
Speaker 4: bring a lot. It shows a lot in terms of

519
00:26:07,693 --> 00:26:12,973
Speaker 4: their depth is amazing. Is amazing because the Cordo is

520
00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:15,893
Speaker 4: playing well. They've got Barnett tennis Delis Smith as your

521
00:26:15,973 --> 00:26:19,293
Speaker 4: boy from from Canterbury. He has been going really well.

522
00:26:19,933 --> 00:26:23,293
Speaker 4: Cable's out at the moment cables out like so they

523
00:26:23,733 --> 00:26:26,213
Speaker 4: Jackson Ford, so they can't fit everyone in. There's got

524
00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:28,933
Speaker 4: to be someone that misses out. So I don't mind

525
00:26:29,013 --> 00:26:33,293
Speaker 4: it as long as it's as part of a defined

526
00:26:34,013 --> 00:26:37,933
Speaker 4: rotation strategy, because as you say, I just think demetric

527
00:26:38,053 --> 00:26:42,413
Speaker 4: brings quite a bit of X factor that that that

528
00:26:42,453 --> 00:26:43,133
Speaker 4: they're going to need.

529
00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:47,213
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think I know we're rightly. So

530
00:26:47,493 --> 00:26:51,173
Speaker 2: we've given plaudits to Jackson Ford for his first month

531
00:26:51,933 --> 00:26:54,933
Speaker 2: at the Warriors, and he's got a magnificent motor on him.

532
00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:58,293
Speaker 2: But I do wonder if they might be able to

533
00:26:58,453 --> 00:27:01,373
Speaker 2: pull back his minutes a touch to actually get a

534
00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,973
Speaker 2: bit of quality rather than quantity. He's been going so

535
00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:07,373
Speaker 2: well that you you know, and that was one game

536
00:27:07,413 --> 00:27:10,773
Speaker 2: against the Tigers, but maybe he dial back his minutes

537
00:27:10,813 --> 00:27:13,973
Speaker 2: and that's the opportunity to spell him for a wee

538
00:27:14,173 --> 00:27:16,773
Speaker 2: recharge and bring by Amonger and just one more because

539
00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:18,413
Speaker 2: there's a lot And I was just reading through the

540
00:27:18,453 --> 00:27:21,693
Speaker 2: Warriors comments on social media or the Warrior's Facebook page

541
00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:26,253
Speaker 2: post the loss on Friday, and it happens, honestly, every

542
00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:30,013
Speaker 2: time they lose Burge, people just calling for Dallen to

543
00:27:30,093 --> 00:27:33,853
Speaker 2: be dropped. So and he rushes in off his right edge,

544
00:27:34,013 --> 00:27:37,653
Speaker 2: makes a ton of bad defensive reads. Isn't giving the

545
00:27:37,733 --> 00:27:41,133
Speaker 2: team what they need in yardage? That he actually got

546
00:27:41,213 --> 00:27:45,453
Speaker 2: up quite quite nicely to one of those kicks from

547
00:27:45,493 --> 00:27:47,373
Speaker 2: Tanna Boyd, but then knocked it on over the line.

548
00:27:48,693 --> 00:27:50,413
Speaker 2: I don't think there'll be a change here Berg, but

549
00:27:50,853 --> 00:27:53,613
Speaker 2: it remains obviously a talking point. Just just go on

550
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:55,173
Speaker 2: socials and it's everywhere.

551
00:27:56,013 --> 00:27:57,933
Speaker 4: He's so polarizing. Isn't there a guy who was such

552
00:27:57,933 --> 00:28:00,453
Speaker 4: a hero in twenty three. He did have a really

553
00:28:00,573 --> 00:28:02,973
Speaker 4: really bad season last year. Let's face it. You know

554
00:28:03,053 --> 00:28:05,293
Speaker 4: he really struggled with confidence here. The injury early on.

555
00:28:06,053 --> 00:28:07,693
Speaker 4: That was it the Sharks, wasn't it? Where he were

556
00:28:07,733 --> 00:28:10,573
Speaker 4: he in the first trial and then coming back and

557
00:28:11,293 --> 00:28:13,653
Speaker 4: so you know he's still getting his confidence back.

558
00:28:13,813 --> 00:28:14,253
Speaker 2: I like this.

559
00:28:14,453 --> 00:28:16,493
Speaker 4: There's little signs in the first couple of matches, and

560
00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:19,893
Speaker 4: you can never question his commitment. But I guess fans.

561
00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:23,693
Speaker 4: Fans are pretty curious to see what Carperra can bring,

562
00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:25,693
Speaker 4: you know, that's the other thing. They're curious to see

563
00:28:25,733 --> 00:28:28,813
Speaker 4: what he campire can bring with his pace and everything else.

564
00:28:28,893 --> 00:28:31,653
Speaker 4: So I can see why they want to see him.

565
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:33,893
Speaker 4: I can also see why Webster's sticking with Dallan, But

566
00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:38,333
Speaker 4: unlike last season, he won't stick with them with him

567
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:39,893
Speaker 4: forever because he has got options.

568
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:42,093
Speaker 2: The one thing I would add to that is someone

569
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:46,093
Speaker 2: who plays NRAL fantasy and watched way too much Gold

570
00:28:46,133 --> 00:28:48,653
Speaker 2: Coast Titans football, because I'd be sweating on a head

571
00:28:48,653 --> 00:28:51,933
Speaker 2: to hit in fantasy. For those curious fans of cant Prera,

572
00:28:52,093 --> 00:28:54,133
Speaker 2: yes he is fast. You're not going to get that

573
00:28:54,253 --> 00:28:58,413
Speaker 2: defensive fix by bringing Camprera And let me just leave

574
00:28:58,453 --> 00:28:58,853
Speaker 2: it there.

575
00:29:03,253 --> 00:29:05,173
Speaker 6: The league podcast.

576
00:29:06,693 --> 00:29:11,493
Speaker 2: Right trying to get into some quick fire tips around five.

577
00:29:12,173 --> 00:29:15,813
Speaker 2: I love I love Rugby Ley. You go the easter Birds.

578
00:29:16,013 --> 00:29:19,493
Speaker 2: You know, Thursday nights into the long weekend. It runs

579
00:29:19,653 --> 00:29:21,533
Speaker 2: all the way through to Monday. You've got to make

580
00:29:21,613 --> 00:29:24,813
Speaker 2: sure you got your remote at home nice and early,

581
00:29:25,373 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 2: put the feed up where you can. It starts on Thursday.

582
00:29:28,253 --> 00:29:30,773
Speaker 2: And this is all of a sudden, a fascinating contest

583
00:29:30,893 --> 00:29:33,733
Speaker 2: because what is it six months on from playing his

584
00:29:33,933 --> 00:29:38,573
Speaker 2: last test match for the kiwis Karen Foran is the

585
00:29:38,853 --> 00:29:41,933
Speaker 2: interim head coach of the Manly Seagulls and his first

586
00:29:41,973 --> 00:29:45,133
Speaker 2: assignment post the sacking of Anthony Sebold is a trip

587
00:29:45,213 --> 00:29:49,533
Speaker 2: up to Brisbane to face the Dolphins. Wow, we three

588
00:29:49,733 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 2: rounds into the season and our first sacking.

589
00:29:53,213 --> 00:29:56,453
Speaker 4: And I've read somewhere it's the earliest sacking in a

590
00:29:56,933 --> 00:30:00,213
Speaker 4: long long time. You know, this is this is English

591
00:30:00,293 --> 00:30:02,533
Speaker 4: Premier League style. Even then they don't go that early,

592
00:30:02,613 --> 00:30:05,213
Speaker 4: so this is this is really early. There's obviously major

593
00:30:05,373 --> 00:30:08,453
Speaker 4: tensions behind the scenes, and you wonder why we'll and

594
00:30:08,533 --> 00:30:10,893
Speaker 4: sort it out in the off season the terms of

595
00:30:10,893 --> 00:30:13,533
Speaker 4: the direction they're going. But I'm so happy for Karen.

596
00:30:13,573 --> 00:30:16,693
Speaker 4: I think he could be really good and I hope

597
00:30:16,853 --> 00:30:19,013
Speaker 4: he is. This is not the way you want to

598
00:30:19,053 --> 00:30:22,093
Speaker 4: be thrown in. But as you mentioned right at the start,

599
00:30:22,453 --> 00:30:24,693
Speaker 4: I think Benji Marshall is the only key we coach

600
00:30:25,653 --> 00:30:28,533
Speaker 4: in in the NRL or indeed Super League, so it

601
00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:31,893
Speaker 4: would be great to get another another Kiwi and Karen's

602
00:30:31,933 --> 00:30:35,493
Speaker 4: got certainly got the He's got a lot of attributes

603
00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:38,453
Speaker 4: for it. Although it is a far it's a cruel job,

604
00:30:39,253 --> 00:30:39,813
Speaker 4: certainly is.

605
00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:43,253
Speaker 2: And I just hope, Yeah, the way that manly owner

606
00:30:43,653 --> 00:30:47,733
Speaker 2: is going, it's not it's on the ideal circumstance for

607
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:49,693
Speaker 2: Kieren fore him to start his coaching career, but he's

608
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:52,093
Speaker 2: got so much knowledge of the game. I think I've

609
00:30:52,133 --> 00:30:54,173
Speaker 2: heard a couple of interviews you've done with him over

610
00:30:54,213 --> 00:30:57,333
Speaker 2: the last few years. Was pleased just such a such

611
00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:59,853
Speaker 2: a footy head. I really do hope he goes well.

612
00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:01,533
Speaker 2: Can I get a tip though, please, Darphins.

613
00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:04,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there'll be the new coach bounce with Karen,

614
00:31:05,453 --> 00:31:07,493
Speaker 4: but I think it's a bit too much. I think Dolphins,

615
00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:11,013
Speaker 4: because I think the Dolphins of the genuine article this year.

616
00:31:11,173 --> 00:31:13,173
Speaker 4: They've got a couple of forwards back on missing last year,

617
00:31:13,213 --> 00:31:14,973
Speaker 4: those long term injuries, and they're going to be good.

618
00:31:15,573 --> 00:31:17,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you too. I think the Dolphins when

619
00:31:17,453 --> 00:31:19,693
Speaker 2: that one little bit of a bounce back from them

620
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:24,333
Speaker 2: after losing the battle for Brisbane. On to Friday, we

621
00:31:24,533 --> 00:31:27,813
Speaker 2: go the Bunnies off the by hosting the Bulldogs.

622
00:31:28,973 --> 00:31:32,133
Speaker 4: Bunnies for mine. I think I'm still a bit worried

623
00:31:32,133 --> 00:31:34,773
Speaker 4: about the Rabbits. I don't know exactly how how good

624
00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:37,093
Speaker 4: they're going to be. There's so much expectation this year

625
00:31:37,533 --> 00:31:39,693
Speaker 4: with the players they've got, the players they got back.

626
00:31:40,013 --> 00:31:43,213
Speaker 4: Haven't quite seen it yet, but they're due. You're off

627
00:31:43,253 --> 00:31:46,613
Speaker 4: the bye, surely it's going to click. Rabbit O's for mine.

628
00:31:47,093 --> 00:31:49,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, rabbit O's for me as well. There's a lot

629
00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:51,693
Speaker 2: of challenge there, but as you say, once it clicks,

630
00:31:51,773 --> 00:31:56,173
Speaker 2: particularly that left edge was it walker for Feta Mitchell

631
00:31:56,933 --> 00:32:00,413
Speaker 2: and Alex Johnston. There's so much firepower there and the

632
00:32:00,493 --> 00:32:05,013
Speaker 2: Bulldogs are just stuttering start for them to twenty twenty six.

633
00:32:05,573 --> 00:32:10,573
Speaker 2: This is a beauty Friday night. The Penrith Panthers, goodness me,

634
00:32:11,693 --> 00:32:15,813
Speaker 2: they look a class above already. They look like they

635
00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:19,893
Speaker 2: have taken losing last year very personally and have come

636
00:32:20,013 --> 00:32:23,373
Speaker 2: back with a vengeance. And the Melbourne Storm burge get this,

637
00:32:23,813 --> 00:32:28,493
Speaker 2: haven't lost three straight since twenty twenty two. So is

638
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:32,493
Speaker 2: there any stopping Penrith Or is a Craig Balamy coach

639
00:32:32,613 --> 00:32:34,373
Speaker 2: team going to lose three around the bouts?

640
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:35,493
Speaker 3: This is amazing.

641
00:32:35,573 --> 00:32:38,893
Speaker 4: I imagine the script like for Melbourne to lose North

642
00:32:38,973 --> 00:32:42,173
Speaker 4: Queensland and then their third game on the bounce has

643
00:32:42,253 --> 00:32:45,653
Speaker 4: to be Penwrith. It's just incredible. Look, it's very hard

644
00:32:45,693 --> 00:32:48,333
Speaker 4: to tip against Penrith at the moment. I'm not going to,

645
00:32:48,893 --> 00:32:50,293
Speaker 4: but I think this would be close. The Storm will

646
00:32:50,293 --> 00:32:52,613
Speaker 4: playing well. They've been run down twice, but they're not

647
00:32:52,693 --> 00:32:55,093
Speaker 4: playing badly. There's still a really good team and they'll

648
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:57,813
Speaker 4: be they'll be up for this. I watched Craig Bellamy's

649
00:32:57,813 --> 00:33:01,693
Speaker 4: press conference after the Cowboys game, and yeah, it was

650
00:33:02,093 --> 00:33:05,013
Speaker 4: it was actually pretty measured. But he'll have them ready

651
00:33:05,173 --> 00:33:08,973
Speaker 4: and it'll be close. But I think the Panthers were

652
00:33:09,013 --> 00:33:09,693
Speaker 4: the way they're going.

653
00:33:11,733 --> 00:33:12,373
Speaker 2: Oh totally.

654
00:33:12,493 --> 00:33:12,533
Speaker 6: No.

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00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:14,773
Speaker 2: I'm with Penrith as well. Just having a look at

656
00:33:14,773 --> 00:33:18,453
Speaker 2: some of the highlights from the game against Paramatta. Nathan Cleary,

657
00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:20,213
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can say this. He's literally

658
00:33:20,293 --> 00:33:22,773
Speaker 2: taking the purse, that's how far ahead they are. He's

659
00:33:22,813 --> 00:33:27,253
Speaker 2: doing these banana kicks on tackle five. He's, you know,

660
00:33:27,413 --> 00:33:29,293
Speaker 2: like Joey John sort of twisting the ball up and

661
00:33:29,333 --> 00:33:33,053
Speaker 2: trying to do these trick forty twenties. Yeah, they're they're,

662
00:33:33,213 --> 00:33:37,053
Speaker 2: they're they're in another stratosphere at the moment. On to Saturday.

663
00:33:37,813 --> 00:33:40,173
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll be watching this one. Dragons Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're a family man as well. Look

665
00:33:44,773 --> 00:33:47,173
Speaker 4: the Dragons I think was their first one of the season,

666
00:33:47,213 --> 00:33:48,293
Speaker 4: wasn't it against the Titans.

667
00:33:48,653 --> 00:33:50,013
Speaker 2: So they lost to the Titans yesterday?

668
00:33:50,013 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 4: By jeez, what am I doing, baby brain again? Anyway? Yeah,

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00:33:53,373 --> 00:33:56,413
Speaker 4: the Titans Titans were good. Sorry, the Titans had their

670
00:33:56,413 --> 00:34:01,773
Speaker 4: first one the season Dragons Cowboys. I quite like the

671
00:34:01,813 --> 00:34:03,813
Speaker 4: Cowboys and this even though they don't know if on Trevor. Well,

672
00:34:03,853 --> 00:34:05,213
Speaker 4: So I'm going to go to the Cowboys because I

673
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:07,213
Speaker 4: just thought the way they came back against the Storm

674
00:34:08,453 --> 00:34:11,573
Speaker 4: Tries in the last nine eight minutes to win it,

675
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:13,853
Speaker 4: I think they'll beat the Dragons.

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00:34:14,373 --> 00:34:14,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:34:14,573 --> 00:34:18,213
Speaker 2: I'm gonna not deliberate on this game too much, but

678
00:34:18,253 --> 00:34:20,293
Speaker 2: I'll go to the Dragons just to be different. I

679
00:34:20,413 --> 00:34:23,493
Speaker 2: actually think as awful as it was to see that

680
00:34:23,653 --> 00:34:26,973
Speaker 2: scene last night with Kyle Flannagan, really nasty head knock,

681
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:30,733
Speaker 2: I actually think the young fella tongy, he might sort

682
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:36,253
Speaker 2: of come on and really show Shane Flanagan that he's

683
00:34:36,293 --> 00:34:37,773
Speaker 2: got a bit about him on attack. So I'm going

684
00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:40,813
Speaker 2: to go with the Dragons. Titans off that first win

685
00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:45,493
Speaker 2: Birge another sort of Queensland or Queensland battle, hosting the

686
00:34:45,533 --> 00:34:46,653
Speaker 2: Broncos on the Gold Coast.

687
00:34:47,453 --> 00:34:50,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Titans and great, great for their coach justin

688
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:53,213
Speaker 4: Holbrook and finally getting going. I can't see them beating

689
00:34:53,213 --> 00:34:55,933
Speaker 4: the Broncos. They don't often beat the Broncos. It's not

690
00:34:56,173 --> 00:34:59,253
Speaker 4: yet a big rivalry like some of the other queens

691
00:34:59,253 --> 00:35:01,773
Speaker 4: in the derby. So Broncos should be too good. They

692
00:35:01,853 --> 00:35:05,293
Speaker 4: seem to be back in gear.

693
00:35:06,133 --> 00:35:09,013
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with the Broncos as as well. Right the

694
00:35:09,093 --> 00:35:13,013
Speaker 2: one we all care about Sunday four o'clock Cranala off

695
00:35:13,413 --> 00:35:17,053
Speaker 2: a pretty impressive one actually over the camera Raiders and

696
00:35:17,173 --> 00:35:21,773
Speaker 2: a rare nice day in the nation's capital against Yeah

697
00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:26,973
Speaker 2: Shark's Warriors at four pm. Just little sidebar to this,

698
00:35:27,453 --> 00:35:30,453
Speaker 2: I'm heading along to one in zid Stadium to Carham

699
00:35:30,453 --> 00:35:33,253
Speaker 2: based here in christ It's pretty cool little test event

700
00:35:33,373 --> 00:35:35,573
Speaker 2: that well. Of course One in Zi had been the

701
00:35:35,613 --> 00:35:39,373
Speaker 2: sponsors of the Warriors and the stadium down here. They're

702
00:35:39,373 --> 00:35:41,893
Speaker 2: trying to test facilities ahead of its opening on Ans

703
00:35:41,933 --> 00:35:44,333
Speaker 2: that weekend and me and the family going to hit

704
00:35:44,333 --> 00:35:48,413
Speaker 2: along to the brand new facility burge and watch the

705
00:35:48,493 --> 00:35:51,773
Speaker 2: game on the big screen among a full south stand.

706
00:35:51,853 --> 00:35:53,733
Speaker 2: So that's going to be quite a cool experience.

707
00:35:53,773 --> 00:35:56,213
Speaker 4: I reckon what a great idea. I mean, I think

708
00:35:56,493 --> 00:35:58,453
Speaker 4: the stadium is going to be a game changer. I

709
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:01,013
Speaker 4: really do. I'm not just saying that. I think when

710
00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:04,533
Speaker 4: people see the stadium, when they see how close the

711
00:36:04,653 --> 00:36:07,173
Speaker 4: fans are to the field, and we have a proper

712
00:36:07,893 --> 00:36:10,373
Speaker 4: routine the stadium and it's going to be full a lot.

713
00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:15,013
Speaker 4: I think it's going to turn heads. It really is

714
00:36:15,053 --> 00:36:17,093
Speaker 4: going to turn heads totally.

715
00:36:17,213 --> 00:36:20,413
Speaker 2: And looking forward to that first Warriors game Matariki weekend.

716
00:36:20,453 --> 00:36:22,933
Speaker 2: That'll come around super quick. That's against the Cowboys down

717
00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:25,613
Speaker 2: here in christ Church. But Burge, where are you putting

718
00:36:25,653 --> 00:36:31,613
Speaker 2: your faith? Traditionally in the Webster era, the Warriors when

719
00:36:31,653 --> 00:36:36,333
Speaker 2: the season hasn't been sort of gone, have have bounced

720
00:36:36,413 --> 00:36:39,333
Speaker 2: back the week after a loss. I know the exact

721
00:36:39,413 --> 00:36:42,173
Speaker 2: numbers in front of me. But raally lose back to

722
00:36:42,253 --> 00:36:45,533
Speaker 2: back games. But and and just on Cronulla. It was

723
00:36:45,653 --> 00:36:47,973
Speaker 2: last year, wasn't it. That was That was arguably the

724
00:36:48,093 --> 00:36:50,493
Speaker 2: best win of the year where they just they whipped

725
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:54,133
Speaker 2: through Craigs Gibbon's side at at Shark Park.

726
00:36:55,053 --> 00:36:55,413
Speaker 3: They did.

727
00:36:55,773 --> 00:36:57,813
Speaker 4: But but yeah, Carnell, Cornell is a good team. They

728
00:36:57,853 --> 00:37:00,573
Speaker 4: had a couple of tough losses before this win the

729
00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:03,853
Speaker 4: weekend over the Raiders, but they are coming right. Craig Fitzgibbon,

730
00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:07,453
Speaker 4: you know, he's always got them. They always just a

731
00:37:08,933 --> 00:37:11,093
Speaker 4: they're not a great team to watch, but they're very

732
00:37:11,453 --> 00:37:14,373
Speaker 4: well drilled and they're just so good defensively and I

733
00:37:14,413 --> 00:37:18,533
Speaker 4: will not forget the way they beat the Raiders last

734
00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:20,453
Speaker 4: last year in the finals to knock them out, you know,

735
00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:22,693
Speaker 4: to go to Canberra and beat the Raiders in the

736
00:37:22,773 --> 00:37:24,133
Speaker 4: form of the Raiders were in the last season with

737
00:37:24,253 --> 00:37:26,613
Speaker 4: something else. So this is a tough team. I really

738
00:37:26,653 --> 00:37:28,653
Speaker 4: don't know. I did not know what's going to happen

739
00:37:28,693 --> 00:37:31,573
Speaker 4: in this match at all. You'd expect a rebound from

740
00:37:31,613 --> 00:37:33,573
Speaker 4: the Warriors. It won't be easy to beat the Sharks.

741
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:36,373
Speaker 4: The crowd's quite good at getting on the back of

742
00:37:36,413 --> 00:37:38,373
Speaker 4: the refs there. There's normally not too many keys there.

743
00:37:39,973 --> 00:37:42,293
Speaker 4: I will tip the Warriors. I'll keep the faith. But

744
00:37:42,413 --> 00:37:43,773
Speaker 4: it's going to be close. It's going to be one

745
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:46,533
Speaker 4: of those ones where it's down to the last few minutes.

746
00:37:46,573 --> 00:37:48,893
Speaker 2: Mate. Yeah, I totally agree. And there's been a couple

747
00:37:48,893 --> 00:37:52,813
Speaker 2: of them over the years. Isn't the un just visioning

748
00:37:53,373 --> 00:37:56,573
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson and a Warriors Juse, you're not a Cronulla

749
00:37:56,653 --> 00:37:58,853
Speaker 2: one with a match one of the back in the day.

750
00:37:59,213 --> 00:38:01,093
Speaker 2: A couple of moater wep through birje. I'm going to

751
00:38:01,093 --> 00:38:03,453
Speaker 2: the Warriors, by the way, to keep the faith. Knights.

752
00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:08,813
Speaker 2: Knights are surprise, particularly post the Dylan Brown Kayler Ponger

753
00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:12,213
Speaker 2: double injury. Good win for them over the Bulldogs. They

754
00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:13,093
Speaker 2: host the Raiders.

755
00:38:13,853 --> 00:38:16,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, but worried about the Raiders because you wonder if

756
00:38:17,933 --> 00:38:20,493
Speaker 4: if they've recovered mentally from what they went through last

757
00:38:20,533 --> 00:38:22,373
Speaker 4: season where your minor premiers and then you're out in

758
00:38:22,413 --> 00:38:25,733
Speaker 4: straight seats with those losses to the Broncos and the Sharks.

759
00:38:25,773 --> 00:38:28,293
Speaker 4: You know, you just wonder. I hope they bounced back.

760
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:31,293
Speaker 4: I think they might against Newcastle, but so I'll go

761
00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:31,813
Speaker 4: with the Raiders.

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00:38:32,973 --> 00:38:36,533
Speaker 2: Interesting now I'm going to stick with the Newcastle, particularly

763
00:38:36,933 --> 00:38:42,213
Speaker 2: at home. And yeah, a real gritty win over the

764
00:38:42,293 --> 00:38:44,693
Speaker 2: Bulldogs who aren't at their best, but those are the

765
00:38:44,733 --> 00:38:46,493
Speaker 2: ones you've got to rack up to be there at

766
00:38:46,493 --> 00:38:50,453
Speaker 2: the business end of the season. Finally, Burge Monday, six o'clock.

767
00:38:51,293 --> 00:38:55,053
Speaker 2: You've got through all your chocolate. You can't move. This

768
00:38:55,493 --> 00:38:58,213
Speaker 2: is actually quite compelling viewing because the Eels haven't been awful.

769
00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:00,533
Speaker 2: In fact, they scored the most points of any team

770
00:39:00,613 --> 00:39:03,093
Speaker 2: so far this year against Penrith and that loss at

771
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:06,253
Speaker 2: the weekend, and they host the Tigers in this sort

772
00:39:06,293 --> 00:39:07,813
Speaker 2: of traditional Easter fixture.

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00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:10,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, and these teams don't like each other. This is

774
00:39:10,413 --> 00:39:13,253
Speaker 4: the big you know, Western Sydney, one of the Western

775
00:39:13,253 --> 00:39:17,733
Speaker 4: Sydney battles. I'll lean towards the Tigers here, just just

776
00:39:17,893 --> 00:39:22,533
Speaker 4: off what they did against the Warriors, because surely, excuse me,

777
00:39:22,573 --> 00:39:24,373
Speaker 4: they'll be at a big high as long as Adam

778
00:39:24,413 --> 00:39:26,653
Speaker 4: do his fored et cetera, et cetera. But you're right, Eels.

779
00:39:27,333 --> 00:39:30,453
Speaker 4: Eels are not going barely at all this season. They've

780
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,173
Speaker 4: recovered from that Melbourne marling that got in Round one.

781
00:39:33,453 --> 00:39:38,133
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the West Tigers, you know, they'll

782
00:39:38,213 --> 00:39:38,773
Speaker 4: keep this going.

783
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:42,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, there's something there and I'm a huge

784
00:39:42,253 --> 00:39:45,053
Speaker 2: fan of the way Adam Dewey is playing, so I

785
00:39:45,373 --> 00:39:47,493
Speaker 2: will go with the Tigers as well. I know it's

786
00:39:47,573 --> 00:39:49,333
Speaker 2: just here on the run sheet quick fire tips, but

787
00:39:49,413 --> 00:39:51,853
Speaker 2: every time I fill in for Nathan it always goes

788
00:39:52,293 --> 00:39:56,933
Speaker 2: far too long. But that is the nature of rugby league.

789
00:39:56,933 --> 00:39:59,973
Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about and wax lyrical about

790
00:40:00,213 --> 00:40:02,893
Speaker 2: for another week. But my thanks to you, Michael Burger.

791
00:40:02,893 --> 00:40:05,333
Speaker 2: It's good to be chatting here on the Big League

792
00:40:05,373 --> 00:40:09,533
Speaker 2: Podcast with you again. I thanks to to producer Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your Easter football this weekend, folks. Please like, subscribe,

794
00:40:14,213 --> 00:40:17,133
Speaker 2: and rate the podcast. Nathan will be back, I'm sure

795
00:40:17,213 --> 00:40:18,333
Speaker 2: once the Warriors win.

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