1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Where are we at with the power in the north 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: after the transmission tower fell over? Of course they got 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: some of it back yesterday, they were still limiting it 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: last night. Transport Chief Executive Ellis Andrews, Well, there's Ellison. 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Very good morning to you, mate. Just give us the 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: details and what we know this afternoon we think everything's back. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Is that still the plan. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: At the moment. We're mobilizing equipment we need to site 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: and we're working hard to get focus on restoration. Yesterday 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: about eleven o'clock, as you said, we bost a big 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: transmission tower and lot and took out two circuits we 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: have which hard to get as much power as we 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: can back up on the smaller supply line. We apologize 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: to people who've been impacted by this loss of tower. 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: We know it's very inconvenient. So we've been focusing all 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: our efforts to work on how can we get as 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: much power as possible up through the smaller one hundred 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: and ten circuit. The two big two hundred and twenty 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: circuits were taken out by this tower, and now we're 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: working on how can we restore one of those two 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: twenty circuits as fast as possible to make sure that 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: every one of them can get their power back. We 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: believe we'd have enough power up for most people, but 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: it will be impacted over those morning and evening peaks. 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, don't read, don't read press statements, Elvison, just talk 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: to me like a human being. When does the power 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: come back? 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, we can hard on getting the power back up. 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Cruise Immobilized Engineering has been with you over night. I 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: think we can do it. We believe s put up 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: some temporary towers in a westering line across earliest would 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: be absolete this afternoon or th late Saturday. Realistically Sunday morning. 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Wowsers, so it's a weekend potentially with trouble. 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: Over a weekend, the powder land is much lower, so 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: we believe that we'll be able to supply people over 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: the over the weekend. We're tricky this morning Friday morning 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Friday night peak, but we're going to ask people again 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: who have been very good, to just manage if they 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: can not to put on a lot of power over 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: that peak period six to nine in the morning and 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: then five to seven at night or five to night 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: at night, fix to nine in the morning. If people 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: can just manage load there. We should be able to 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: get through powers lower over the weekend so people, we 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: should be able to supply all the people and if 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: we get the power buying back up and morning we 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: should be finding the London Morning's peak. 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: What have you heard about it falling over? Why does 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: a tower fall over? 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: At the moment we focus on restoration, like, it's actually 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: really unhelpful to speculate as to why. We will be 52 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: doing a full investigation, but that's really important. We keep 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: all our engineers or our people working hard focused on 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: restoration and not get diverted at this point on what 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: went wrong? Please be issued. We will find out what happened. 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: The tower should not have fallen over, but it's just 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: not helpful to speculate. 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: At the moment bolts were out and water blasting was 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: going on, it fell over. 60 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: We don't know if things were happening. We will find 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: out the information and we will make sure we find 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: what happened and learn from the event. But if they 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: say we have to focus on restoration, speculating now is unhelpful. 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: It just diverts resources. It stops the effort from going 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: onst which is a complex stop. 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Some of your people were in the area. Weren't they 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: working We. 68 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: Had a crew that was rooting on the towering routine maintenance. 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Yes, right, so they're working on the tower when it 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: fell over. 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: We have people doing routine work up and down the 72 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: country every day on towers that should not have fallen over, 73 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: and would want to do our best to do a good 74 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: investigation at the right time to find out what happened 75 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: in an infroment. 76 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Do we need much of an investigation if you've got 77 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: a group of people there working on the tower and 78 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: the tower falls over. I think we've had that investigation, 79 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: and that is they did something to make the tower 80 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: fall over, didn't they? 81 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: No? I actually big to defer. It's anomous threat. It's 82 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: very tempting, and I can see where you're going to 83 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: try and do an investigation on the fly that it's 84 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: very dangerous. There are all sorts of reasons and causes 85 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: for why things happen, and it's really important that we 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: understand what happened and get to the root cause so 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: it can learn and make sure it can't happen again. 88 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I understand thorough investigation. 89 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Of course, and now I understand that, but I'm looking 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: at the tower I'm looking at the whole. You know 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: that we're the bolts are and the bolts aren't there anymore, 92 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: and it's lying on its side, and we've ruled out 93 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the weather. Have you ruled out the weather? 94 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: By the way, we don't believe the weather was the pause. 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: And we've also inspected towers on other sides of that, 96 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: and that's sure of the bay are safe for restoration. 97 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Right. 98 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: But yes, it's easy to speculate, and there will be 99 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: some people who are very intrigued about what happened, but 100 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: we will do a thorough investigation. But this is actually 101 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: really important. We don't divert people away, distract them. There 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: maybe safety issues. We've got to focus on getting the 103 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: poor people. As an orphant who don't have power, it's 104 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: really important to get powered back to them as soon 105 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: as possible. 106 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Safety quite right, If there was a crew on the 107 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: site and they watched the tower fall over, they would 108 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: have a pretty good indication as to what happened there. 109 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: What have they said to you? 110 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: We haven't done a deep effort, The proms aren't yet. 111 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: We've been focused on restoration. 112 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: No one's asked a question like what the hell happened? 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure they have been questions. Answer, but 114 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: I say, well. 115 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Who would have asked those questions? 116 00:04:59,279 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: MI? 117 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: The service providers doing the work, and you have no 118 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: interest in knowing what happened. 119 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: Of course, we have an enormous interest in knowing what happened. 120 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: But having been through a number of these serious incidents, 121 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: it's really important that you focus on efforts on festival, 122 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: making sure that the science is safe, and they'll inhert 123 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: that you can secure in side, and they're restoring power 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: supply as soon as possible. We will be collecting evidence, 125 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: of course, but investigations take time. That's really important we 126 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: get to the root cause and really understand the fact 127 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: is you can't do that overnight, and you certainly don't 128 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: do it on the trive that if you did. If 129 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: you did, if it is dangerous speculation and you may 130 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: not find the root cause and you distract from what 131 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: is a really important restoration. 132 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: Is okay, that's fine. If you find what has been 133 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: speculated is true. In other words, were people working on 134 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: a tower in the tower for all over? What are 135 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you going to do about that? 136 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: We'll find the root cause, understand what happened, what could 137 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: have causes that should not happen. What of our controls, 138 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: what have our process which just what things happened that 139 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: caused that? And then what do we learn from that? 140 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: And then we'll take some actions. But there's all sorts 141 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: of reasons. I don't want to speculate them on why 142 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: these things can happen. It's what do we understand, what 143 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: control failed and therefore what can we learn from that? 144 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, appreciate you time very much. 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