1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Stay priced in Australia. Very good morning to you. Good 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: out standard of living? Where are you at. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Back at the nineteen fifties? According to report at the weekend, 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: households in Australia are suffering the worst decline and anyone 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: think you've moving to Australia should listen to this worst 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: decline in living standards since the nineteen fifties, with the 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: fall in real disposable income eclipsing those of the last 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: four major recessions. I couldn't believe this when I read it. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Analysis of the official government stats shows the current cost 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: of living crisis has hit households twice as hard as 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: our recession we had to have in nineteen nineteen ninety 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: one and the eighty two to eighty three recession, and 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: significantly more sharply than anything going all the way back 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: to nineteen fifty nine reveals living standards in this country 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: during the current inflation crisis. And this is the importance 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: that I have fallen more than in any other OECD country, 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: where the hit to households now worse than all comparable 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: developed nations. So there you go. That's where we're at. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Can you feel it? 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: I can't because I'm lucky, but I think anyone with 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: a family living in a major capital city on two 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: household average incomes would definitely be feeling it. And it 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: comes through things like the price of petrol groceries. People 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: are not going out as much. I definitely think they 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: can feel it, and the cost of living is going 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: to be the major issue when the election comes around, because, 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: of course, Anthony Alberaneze and Jim Chalmers before the last 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: election said they would cut everyone's energy bills and everyone 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: will feel better off under labor. All Peter doesn't do 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: a stand up and say what Donald Trump said, Do 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: you feel better two and a half years on from 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: when Antony Alberanez was elected or not. 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: It's a classic thing. If you run a polt's is 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the country hitting in the right direction and the majority 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: of people say no, the government of the day will lose. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: That's how it works. 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've not seen a one term federal government 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: defeated since the nineteen thirty so the stats go against that. 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: And I keep warning everybody that a minority labor government 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: would be complete disaster. 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Now, the big protest yesterday, how many arrests. 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably saw the pictures. Last night, one 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy climate protesters. They blockaded the Newcastle Port 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: Court where most of the coal comes in and out 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: of the country. They paddled out there at ten in 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: the morning. Ten of the protesters got stuck and needed rescuing. 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: Fourteen of those people charged with children. Can you believe 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: you take children out in a kayak and paddle in 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: front of a coal ship. Seems to be not very sensible. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Opposition police spokesman up there, Pull Tool, said he was 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: concerned the magistrates would not hit protesters with the full penalties. Well, 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: I never do. They give them a slap on the wrist. 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Full penalties would include jail time fines of twenty two 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's not going to happen, he said. They've 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: got to stop giving people a slap on the wrist. 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: This ship was forced to stop and could not leave 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: the port. Adam An The Green's leader was there looking 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: like a fool. They were called numb skulls and it 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: was dangerous, really really dangerous. And so we'll wait and 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: see what happens. 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: In court, OK, and then what's the treaty process in Victoria. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Secret I know you've been having issues with the white hanging. 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: In New Zealand. The first treaty negotiations between the Victorian 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Labor government and something called the euroch Justice Commission, which 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: is an indigenous elected panel, took started on Monday this 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: start on Monday this week today, and the Premier has 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: come out and said, well, look, I'm not going to 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: rule things in or out here today. We will have 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: those negotiations at the table. But one of the Assembly 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: members has told the herok Son negotiations we have been 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: kept top secret. The public and Assembly members have been 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: locked out. We've been told to stay quiet, do not 73 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: speak about the negotiations, clean our social media accounts up, 74 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: and don't talk to the media. Well, this treat is 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: going to involve everything from land rights to compensation for 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: previous crimes committed. You know, everything is on the table, 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: and the premier is not going to let the public 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: know that. 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: And that's just in Victoria, just for. 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: Victoria, yes, and at least two other states are also 81 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: having similar discussions. But Victoria, they went to the last 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: election making it clear they were going to have these negotiations, 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: but no one was ever told exactly what it's going 84 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: to do and the general public has no say in 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: the negotiation at all. 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Hey, this back down back to Albanza, the backdown on 87 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: the social media and lies and all that sort of 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: stuff that the Senate got upset about, and they back 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: down on that. What's driving the alban easy I know 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: how to run your life. And that's before we get 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: to the banning kids from social media. Well, where's is that? 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Just a classic left leaning labor government who wants to 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: run your life. 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: Well, if you at the worst case scenario, it's about 95 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: everyone having a digital ID. So we've tried in this 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: country before to have you know, everyone to have a 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: a card that says who they are and where they live. 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: That's what this would end up being, because you would 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: have to register. It's also the same with the under sixteens. 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: But the Senate was never going to pass it. The 101 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: Greens even arked up about it, and so did the Coalition, 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: And so the misinformation built was going to hand over 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: to a bunch of public servants the right to say 104 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: what you and I can put up on social media. 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: It was never going to happen. So that's been binned. 106 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: But interestingly, Peter Dutton will meet with his Coalition Party 107 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: members in Candra this morning. He's going to try and 108 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: convince them that this under sixteen social media ban on 109 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: kids is a good thing. Now, many in his party 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: disagree with him. Many think it's a trojan horse. So 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: he's going to have to try and convince him. I 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: can't see how it's going to work. 113 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Well no, yeah, well that's the other thing. So the 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: point is it a good thing, as in like we 115 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: need to do something, but versus it can't work because 116 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: it won't Well. 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I think it can't work because it won't. And know 118 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: the use of social by anyone under the age of 119 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: sixteen should be up to the parents, and the parents 120 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: should be monitoring what they do and do not do. 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Now people will say I'm being naive by saying that, 122 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: but our kids will find a way around. Of course, 123 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: there's no way, I mean, And parents who don't care 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: will simply hand their phones over to their kids and 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: so go your hearts exactly right. 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Might see Wednesday Steve Price out of Australia. By the way, 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: part of that cost of living. I found it fascinating. 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: If you think housing's a problem here, it's problem there 129 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: as well. In fact, their problem is worse than ours. 130 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Cost of building a home in New South Wales and 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Victoria has gone up my more than twenty five percent. 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: So when we say we need more homes, why don't 133 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: we're building more homes. The answer is because count affordable. No, 134 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: you've got to have a buyer at the end of it. 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: And if you're running up ten thousand dollars a square meter, 136 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: by the time you've run a couple of hundred meters, 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: you've got a two million dollar home. No one's buying it. 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: National average has risen from three forty five thousand four 139 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: forty three between twenty three and twenty four. It's gone 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: up twenty five percent in Victoria, thirty percent in New 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: South Wales, forty four percent in Queensland. More from The 142 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast. 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talk Set B from six am weekdays, 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.