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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather dupless the Allen Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: let's get connected us talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome to the show coming out today. We're

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Speaker 3: going to speak to our new police boss, Richard Chambers.

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Speaker 3: He's with us after five o'clock. Also going to have

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Speaker 3: a chat to the union about the closure of that

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Speaker 3: paper mill and talk to her another one down. And

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Speaker 3: apparently kids with less screen time as in more screen

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Speaker 3: time rules are less likely to become a beast. So

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Speaker 3: I'll get you across that detail.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen got to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about driveways though, don't we We've got to talk

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Speaker 3: about driveways because did you know that you're not allowed

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Speaker 3: to park in your own driveway? And when I say

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Speaker 3: parking your own driveway, I'm not talking about parking like

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Speaker 3: a weird angle or blocking stuff of I'm not talking

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Speaker 3: about that. I'm talking about the bit where your property ends.

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Speaker 3: You know, where your fences or your gait that bit

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Speaker 3: up to the road. You're not allowed to park there,

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Speaker 3: even if it's your own driveway. Not allowed. This is

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Speaker 3: a rule. It's a rule across the entire country. But

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Speaker 3: most of us, of course don't realize us most of

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Speaker 3: us do it because most of our councils don't enforce

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Speaker 3: that rule because it's dumb. But they do enforce it

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Speaker 3: in Auckland, and it would appear anecdotally at least, that

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Speaker 3: Auckland Transport is going around enforcing this with some vigor lately.

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Speaker 3: And maybe the reason they're suddenly cracking down on it

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Speaker 3: so hard is because they are finding people more and

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Speaker 3: so there's an incentive there because they've lift at the

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Speaker 3: fines recently from about forty bucks to about seventy bucks.

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Speaker 3: Let me remind you for parking in your own driveway. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think most of us would agree with what I

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Speaker 3: said before about this. This is a dumb rule because

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Speaker 3: who are you hurting? I mean, who are you inconveniencing

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Speaker 3: by doing this? So I totally get it. If you're

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Speaker 3: cutting off the footpath and people can't walk in front

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Speaker 3: of the car, then you're being a bit of a clown, right,

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Speaker 3: But if you've left space for people to be able

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Speaker 3: to walk in front of your car, what's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Why do you need to be ticketed? You know why

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Speaker 3: you need to be ticketed. Don't you because Auckland Transport

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Speaker 3: wants the money. It's a really really easy money grab

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Speaker 3: for them, especially now that the ticket price is almost doubled. Now,

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Speaker 3: I reckon this is why Wayne Brown is right to

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Speaker 3: do what he proposed doing yesterday. He said yesterday he

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Speaker 3: wants to start moving to shut down Auckland Transports independence

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Speaker 3: and bring them back into the council because other councils

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Speaker 3: around the country don't enforce us rule. Now I stand

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Speaker 3: to be corrected on this, but I can't find examples

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Speaker 3: certainly not with the same vigor that apparently Auckland Transports

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Speaker 3: Transport is at the moment because it's dumb. If any

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Speaker 3: other council was doing it, it'll be political suicide for counselors,

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Speaker 3: so they don't do it. But Auckland Transport does enforce

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Speaker 3: it because Auckland Transport is not answerable to rate payers.

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Speaker 3: They are independent. They can do whatever they want, however

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Speaker 3: dumb it is, and we can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 3: So I reckon Auckland Transport right now is making the

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Speaker 3: case for why they should not be allowed to run.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely anything to do with roads themselves. Take these people

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Speaker 3: I would challenge you to find anything dumber that's happening

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Speaker 1: The dupless nine.

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Speaker 3: Two nine two is the text number standard text fees

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Speaker 3: applied now to another car related controversy. Because that's not

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Speaker 3: enough road cones. The government's done some digging and it's

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Speaker 3: revealed today that MZTA has spent in just three years

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Speaker 3: traffic management. Now the guy who did the digging is

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Speaker 3: the Transport Minister, Simeon Brown.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Simeon, how are you, Heather?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you, sim In. Before we get onto

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Speaker 3: the road cones and stuff, did you know that you

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Speaker 3: can't park in your own driveway?

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Speaker 5: The rule is clear that you can't block a driveway.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately, you know, what I'd say to Auckland Transport

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Speaker 5: here is there needs to be some discretion. Ultimately, if

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Speaker 5: or a wheelchair can't get past, that's one thing. But

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Speaker 5: if someone's trying to park their card to be able

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Speaker 5: outside the house, it's a different thing. So their discretion

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Speaker 5: is up the wazoo and that's something which I'd be

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Speaker 5: encouraging them to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate that, but do they actually have to

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Speaker 5: Well, ultimately the rule which allows them to which is

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Speaker 5: clear you can't block a driveway.

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Speaker 4: But the reality here is this is about discretion.

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Speaker 5: And I think for most fear minded Aucklanders who are

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Speaker 5: So it comes down to discretion and the enforcement officers

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Speaker 5: are able to use their discretion in their circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Are you telling them, Simi and right now as the

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Speaker 4: Well, I think my message has been consistent.

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Speaker 5: I want a common sense approach when it comes to

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Speaker 3: Right, but they don't want a.

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Speaker 4: Common sense approach.

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Speaker 5: I can't tell Allen Transport so as a road controlling

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Speaker 5: authority or any other road controlling authorities to what to do.

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Speaker 5: They are the road controlling authority and Auckland. Obviously there's

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Speaker 5: an issue in terms of whether or not there needs

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Speaker 5: to be more democratic accountability. And I'm all form of

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Speaker 5: democratic accountability of these issues, and I'm working with Wayne

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Speaker 5: Brown on that.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to get will you help them to

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Speaker 3: get rid of AT?

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Speaker 5: I'm working through the options around that. What I'm committed

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Speaker 5: to is democratic accountability of transport decisions. There's a range

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Speaker 5: of ways in which that can be implemented, but the

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Speaker 5: outcome that we've agreed and we're committed to is democratic

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Speaker 5: accountability of these decisions.

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Speaker 3: Good love it defund AT now on the road Cones.

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Speaker 3: This is mind blowing this number.

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Speaker 6: Isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's significant.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, when I became the Minister of Transport, I said

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Speaker 5: record it recorded and we found that It's been almost

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Speaker 5: eight hundred million dollars in the last three years, which

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, we need to see this come down.

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Speaker 5: We need to see a much more off fish use

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Speaker 5: right and that's all working with NZTA to deliver.

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Speaker 3: Now, am I right in thinking what we're talking about?

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Speaker 3: This nearly eight hundred million dollars here? This is just NZTA.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't include whatever the councils have also spent.

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Speaker 5: Correct, So this is only the New Zealand Transport Agency.

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Speaker 5: This doesn't include what transport or councils across the country are,

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Speaker 5: include electricity lines companies or corus who do telecommunications.

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Speaker 4: So this is only New Zealand and ZTA.

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Speaker 5: So NCTA is rolling out a new risk based approach

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Speaker 5: to traffic management that that is going to take time,

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Speaker 5: but we've already started implementing that into new construction contracts

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Speaker 5: and they will be implementing that into all new maintenance contracts.

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Speaker 5: We are seeing in the first quarterly report a reduction

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Speaker 5: we are seeing those benefits starting to flow through. But

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Speaker 5: I've been very clear we need to keep that dop

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Speaker 5: because I want to see rettingle dollar being maximized so

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Speaker 5: we can get more roads built and more roads maintained,

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Speaker 5: because that's what taxpayers expect.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. So me and listen, thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: really appreciated, Sammy and Brown Transport Minister a Auklinn Transports

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Speaker 3: being told he how good is that, Heather, Our new

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Speaker 3: police Commissioner, Richard Chambers looks like Flash Gordon, so he

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Speaker 3: must be good. He actually does. He actually looks like

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Speaker 3: Flash Gordon. And it's the part. It's where the hair

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Speaker 3: but without all of the botox. It's very similar. And

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Speaker 3: then it's just he's got the whole Flash Gordon look. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you about him before we actually

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Speaker 3: can I just make just really quickly bring you up

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Speaker 3: to speed because I'm quite enjoying the Donald Trump appointment process.

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Speaker 3: And he really does love a celebrity, doesn't he? Because

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Speaker 3: he's picked for the guy who will run his Medicare

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Speaker 3: and Medicaid service Doctor Oz, like literally doctor Oz. This yes,

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Speaker 2: Who will take the White House? Results and analysis of

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Speaker 2: the US election?

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Speaker 7: On?

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Alan Drive with One New Zealand. Let's get

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Speaker 2: connected news talk, said b.

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Speaker 8: Sport with tab Get your bed on, ri Et Bet responsibly.

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Speaker 3: Darcy water Graves Hello, Heather, Hello Darcy, your hype day

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Speaker 3: because you've got so much to do today?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, no, nothing, really, it could be worse. Real job?

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Speaker 3: Are you running? Are you just running on? Like the

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Speaker 3: smell of your armpits right now, you know when.

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Speaker 9: You get so yea possibly, But I don't have an odor.

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Speaker 9: I'm actually ai. I don't exist. I'm a figment of

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Speaker 9: everyone's digital imagination.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you're going to crash later today, Okaye tell me

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Speaker 3: about him?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gone from David's carp So Spain has been

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Speaker 9: a radical use, as they say, And that's the end

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Speaker 9: of an error. It's a very long error. When he started,

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Speaker 9: he had hair put it that way. It's been so long.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit of a bumma that it's gone out

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 9: Like, well, I don't know what I like about ruffian

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Speaker 9: and dull. And he said it the other day, like

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Speaker 9: I don't have an ego. He goes, I can play

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Speaker 9: for another year. I could tour my retirement around the planet.

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 9: He basically doesn't need the world telling him he'll be missed,

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Speaker 9: the world telling him he's good. He knows he's good.

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Speaker 9: He's had a storied career. He's what twenty two grand

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Speaker 9: slams are full of grand slam?

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Speaker 3: How loaded is he as well?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely don't worry. I mean, if you count success in

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Speaker 9: life by how much money you've got I'm an absolute failure,

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Speaker 9: so I don't choose to do. I don't know how

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Speaker 9: your rate success, but I believe he's a man. It's

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and youth talksa'd be hither.

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Speaker 3: It's part of the roadway sidewalk. It's not your property. Also,

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Speaker 3: This is the weird thing in this Okay, you are

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: Richard Chambers has been announced as our new top cop,

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Speaker 12: Next, the day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather Dupless

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Speaker 9: So you can see a.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, what's the lesson from this? Everybody's forgotten about

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Speaker 8: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 14: deployed remotely and they'll fly to the exact longitude and

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Speaker 14: latitude of these emergencies right here. And this is a

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Speaker 14: program that's kind of trying to get the drones to

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Speaker 14: the scene before the officers can get there. And once

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Speaker 14: they arrive there, they're going to have a location taken

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Speaker 14: into account. They'll be able to see what's going on.

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Speaker 14: They've got cameras and night vision technology and stuff like that.

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Speaker 14: I think what they're trying to do is really stop

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Speaker 14: a lot of the wild goose chases that police are

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Speaker 14: often sent on, you know, reports of shots fired that

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Speaker 14: aren't or a robbery that wasn't, or calls people make

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Speaker 14: just to annoy the police and tie up their resources,

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Speaker 14: so that means other crimes are sometimes pushed back. So

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Speaker 14: I think maybe this is actually a good use of

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Speaker 14: money and resources and could be rolled out in other

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Speaker 14: cities if it're proved successful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean the thing is a lot of

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Speaker 3: people will start to you know, people are a little

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Speaker 3: suspicious at the moment, right and they get funny ideas

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Speaker 3: in the hids and stuff, and I wonder if people

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Speaker 3: are going to think that this is actually surveillance.

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Speaker 14: That was my other thought too, that if this gets

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Speaker 14: a pushback at all, it's going to be from people

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Speaker 14: that are saying, well, these drones are spying on people,

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Speaker 14: or they're out in public right now and I haven't

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Speaker 14: given them from for my usage. It's the same way

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Speaker 14: when you see Google go around and you know take

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Speaker 14: shots of neighborhoods, the often blow out you know, license

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Speaker 14: plates and people's faces and addresses and stuff like that,

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Speaker 14: which at this point these drones aren't going to be

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Speaker 14: able to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose that's a fair point.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk and Donald Trump, I'm surprised that they don't

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Speaker 3: sick of each other by.

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Speaker 14: Now you know, your your your producer, Laura she she

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Speaker 14: called this a bromance, and I said, that's exactly I

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Speaker 14: think what it is right now. I mean, he Trump

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Speaker 14: was attending the Space launch in Texas, with with Elon

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Speaker 14: Musk just a short time ago. And of course, you know,

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Speaker 14: Musk has been tapped ahead. You know that the kid

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Speaker 14: to oversee the yes doge to improve the government efficiency here.

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Speaker 14: And I'll tell you how that in the last couple

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Speaker 14: of weeks since the election, I mean, these guys have

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Speaker 14: been pretty much inseparable, and he's he's Musk has hopped

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Speaker 14: on the phone with at least a couple of foreign leaders,

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Speaker 14: and he's been tapped in lead this efficiency commission, and

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Speaker 14: he's offered advice to Trump's transition team, and you know,

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Speaker 14: hunkered down at the president elects place in Florida, and

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Speaker 14: Mike question is is this going to last? Or are

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Speaker 14: these two of the world's biggest personalities and egos and

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Speaker 14: they're going to say after.

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Speaker 10: A while, it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: So I was listening to Anthony Scaramucci's podcast, which is

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Speaker 3: actually surprisingly brilliant, I have to be honest, and he

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Speaker 3: made the point that when he first was taken into

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Speaker 3: the White House to work for Trump, he was warned

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Speaker 3: by I think it was by Calliane Conway or somebody

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Speaker 3: like that, and she said, be careful, you will be

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Speaker 3: the teacher's pet for about two weeks, and then after

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Speaker 3: that he's going to be sick of you and he's

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Speaker 3: going to get rid of you. And this is this

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Speaker 3: is the risk that Elon Musk runs, right, that he

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Speaker 3: gets way too much Trump Trump time, and Trump Trump

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Speaker 3: just gets bored of him and then there's some sort

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Speaker 3: of an explosion.

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Speaker 14: I think you're right, you know, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 14: it's a boost to both her egos, and I mean

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Speaker 14: Trump's got a guy next to him that's got up.

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Speaker 14: You know, he's like a money printing press with a

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Speaker 14: lot of resources from satellite to cars to social media.

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Speaker 14: But I think you're right. I think in six months

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Speaker 14: from now, we're going to say, hey, whatever happened to

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Speaker 14: that bromance.

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Speaker 1: And he's going to be on to somebody else.

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Speaker 14: Honestly, I think that's where.

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Speaker 3: And then Elo Musk will be hosting podcasts about how

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Speaker 3: much he also hates Donald Trump. Listen, why is it

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Speaker 3: that so many adults young adults are still living with

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Speaker 3: their parents.

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Speaker 14: It's because the cost of housing. I mean, pre pandemic,

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Speaker 14: I mean, most of the eighteen to thirty four year

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Speaker 14: olds were living with their moms and dads. There were

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Speaker 14: a number of them. It pushed upwards after the pandemic,

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Speaker 14: and I know it's not cheap. In fact, I was

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Speaker 14: doing some digging around. You're part of the world and

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Speaker 14: Auckland right now. A median home price can be, depending

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Speaker 14: on where you live, anywhere from about nine hundred and

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Speaker 14: seventy thousand, they're saying to a million dollars. And if

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Speaker 14: you look at a city, say like where I grew

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Speaker 14: up in San Diego in California, less than a third

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Speaker 14: of people there can afford to buy it. The medium

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Speaker 14: price is about one point two million dollars.

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Speaker 15: And the ad and this is what blew my mind.

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Speaker 14: I mean I had to check a couple of people

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Speaker 14: I know that are in the real estate business. The

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Speaker 14: median age for a person to buy a home in

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Speaker 14: a city like San Diego fifty four years old. I mean,

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Speaker 14: think about that. Fifty four that's when you're thinking about

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Speaker 14: retiring and.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, hey, you're paid off by fifty four if you can.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you'd like that, you know, not getting into something

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Speaker 14: that you're going to pay off over another twenty five

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Speaker 14: or six years and have to worry about taxes and stuff. So,

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Speaker 14: I mean, this is why we're seeing people all around

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Speaker 14: the world now staying with mom and dad and good luck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, thanks very much. I appreciate good luck and

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Speaker 3: get out, Dan, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Dan

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Speaker 3: Mitchins in Our US, corresponding hither, I was actually appalled

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Speaker 3: at Ginny's comments this morning. She said it was okay

545
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Speaker 3: to break the rules if you feel strongly about an issue.

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Speaker 3: What are rules laws? Who cares? Who cares? As long

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Speaker 3: as you care deeply. I was pretty wild. Can I

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Speaker 3: just say on that, Hello, Labor, you're not reading the

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Speaker 3: room very well. Labour needs to if Labour wants think

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Speaker 3: about how this works. If Labour wants to form government again,

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Speaker 3: it has to appeal to the people in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the country. Normal people who follow the rules, go

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Speaker 3: to work, send their kids to school, pay their taxes,

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Speaker 3: pay their mortgage. That's who Labour has to capture. Because

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Speaker 3: all the loonies are captured by the Greens and the

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Speaker 3: Marty Party. They've got the fringe covered, but Labor is

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Speaker 3: now getting the Labor has lost the middle person because

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Speaker 3: Ginny is like Nantha Caffy, break the rills. Who cares

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Speaker 3: like that? This is crazy from Labor, This this is

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Speaker 3: they're not very good politics. They need to rein it in.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry like think about the big thing. Don't worry

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Speaker 3: about trying to capture that vote that cares about the

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Speaker 3: hcoy because your mates on the left have got it covered.

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Speaker 3: You've got to go for the middle ground. But anyway, whatever,

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Speaker 3: who am I trying to telling them to how to

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Speaker 3: fix this situation? They'll get there eventually.

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Speaker 2: Caught it to politics with centrics. Credit, check your customers

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Speaker 2: and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Very Soper, senior political correspondent, is with us. Barry, Hello,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. You also think Richard Chambers looks like flashed order.

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Speaker 16: I do, But Richard James has got gray hair, not blonde,

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Speaker 16: but plesh Gordon hairs. You can sort of see him

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Speaker 16: zapping out there, can't you, and getting rid of the criminals.

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Speaker 16: I've got to say, like you mentioned here that he

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Speaker 16: was the favorite for frontline police. He's an old fashioned

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Speaker 16: type cop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, started his job and.

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Speaker 16: Evandale nineteen ninety six, so isn't it around all that long?

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Speaker 16: But nevertheless he's risen through the ranks. As you said,

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Speaker 16: he's worked an into pol And. Of course, nineteen ninety

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Speaker 16: six is thirty years para well, it doesn't seem that

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Speaker 16: long ago, not.

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Speaker 3: To you, but I mean that's like a that's a

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Speaker 3: decent chunk of time.

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Speaker 16: In parliament for sixteen years.

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Speaker 3: Carry on anywhe.

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Speaker 16: It's a critical role for the Coalition government because you know,

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Speaker 16: they are really taking a hard line on crime, so

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Speaker 16: it's important they had a cop like this and the

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Speaker 16: top and Mark Mitchell the police minister. He made it

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Speaker 16: quite clear that Andrew Costa wasn't the man for him

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Speaker 16: setting about a letter just after he became the minister

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Speaker 16: saying what his expectations were they obviously couldn't be met.

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Speaker 16: So Chambers was asked that hoary old question, does he

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Speaker 16: think the police need to be armed? Here's what he said.

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Speaker 17: I am a leader who would like to think. I think,

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Speaker 17: like many New Zealanders, that we don't find ourselves in

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Speaker 17: a situation as a country where routinely I don't think

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Speaker 17: any of.

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Speaker 9: Us want or need that.

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Speaker 17: However, you know, policing globally is getting more volatile, it's

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Speaker 17: getting more unpredictable, and I am not going to shut

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Speaker 17: down listening to the reflections of my frontline staff in

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Speaker 17: terms of what they might think they need. It's obviously

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Speaker 17: a significant debate for our country. But I am open

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Speaker 17: to having that conversation.

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Speaker 16: See that's interesting because he's left the door open eyed.

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Speaker 16: Quite so, I find that quite interesting. I'll tell you

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Speaker 16: what though, Chambers will have to hit the ground running

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Speaker 16: with the crackdown on gangs beginning at midnight tonight, just

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Speaker 16: to remind listeners what it involves here as the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 18: Gang insignia will be banned in all public places, Courts

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Speaker 18: will be able to issue non consorting orders, and police

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Speaker 18: will be able to stop criminal gang members from associating

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Speaker 18: and communicating. Greater weight will also be given to gang membership.

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Speaker 18: It's sentencing, enabling courts to impose more severe punishments.

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Speaker 4: Gangs aren't community groups. They're not rotary.

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Speaker 18: They thrive on destroying the lives of other New Zealanders,

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Speaker 18: whether that's by peddling drugs or through brutal acts of

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Speaker 18: violence that leave communities unfair. We promise to restore law

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Speaker 18: and order and tomorrow police will have more powers to

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Speaker 18: do exactly that.

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Speaker 16: And the Commissioner says those powers they'll be using them

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Speaker 16: from midnight tonight.

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Speaker 3: Do you see, Topassi mar has no no let me

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Speaker 3: finish as before we laugh. Has a later complained about

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Speaker 3: the speaker. Oh, the poor little gendons.

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Speaker 9: They had to reply to the speaker today.

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Speaker 16: I don't know whether they have because the co leaders

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Speaker 16: and the young woman who now it's one pm tomorrow,

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Speaker 16: that tomorrow tomorrow, I had to reply, Oh tomorrow it is, yes.

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Speaker 16: But the leaders say that they made a complaint over

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Speaker 16: actions taken by Jerry Brownney. They said there was an

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Speaker 16: estimate of forty two thousand, that's the latest. Who knows

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Speaker 16: what the number was that culminated at parliament. Deb and

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Speaker 16: Nurry were packet, says Brownly. Oh they used his powers,

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Speaker 16: going further than for any the protest. Give me break.

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Speaker 16: Think what did he do?

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Speaker 3: What did he do?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 16: Think back to trip and Mallard and sprinklers, co, COVID

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Speaker 16: and something. Never mind, it brings up a root.

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Speaker 3: Did Jerry do?

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Speaker 16: Brings up an interesting point. Well, he didn't allow the

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Speaker 16: Maori Party staff to give the fun our water the

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Speaker 16: protesters water. Yeah, well he should have turned the sprinkless

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Speaker 16: system on. Take a leaf out of Mallard's books.

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Speaker 3: It's not like it's a water oasis, a water desert

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Speaker 3: and go down the road and buy some water.

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Speaker 16: That old boys across the road at the back bench

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Speaker 16: and one else. He also prevented their access to the WiFi,

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Speaker 16: so he.

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Speaker 3: Blocked that usually data.

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Speaker 16: But they couldn't. They couldn't do their when they had

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Speaker 16: no internet access, they tell us. So they've laid the complaint.

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Speaker 16: I think it'll be the speaker though, that will be

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Speaker 16: complaining about them before very long as you so tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you cannot say that that is the most

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Speaker 3: egregious use of a speaker's power when we've only just

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Speaker 3: lived through triple Ok, this islous? How great O get Barry?

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much? The fun never stops is very so.

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent eight away from six putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: Christopher Lux, well, what's your view of what this country

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Speaker 19: has looked like to the world in the last week

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Speaker 19: with all the love sharing it on social media? Going yes, queen,

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Speaker 19: look at New Zealand go do we look good or

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Speaker 19: do we look bad?

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Speaker 1: Look?

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Speaker 20: I've just come back from Apeck and to be honest,

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Speaker 20: it wasn't raised with me by any of the leaders,

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Speaker 20: and I'm not sure they actually saw us to.

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Speaker 9: Believe they didn't because according.

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Speaker 19: To wherever its are, hundreds of millions of people all

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Speaker 19: over the world apparently have seen it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well look, I mean it's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 20: It's an emotion. Officially, the bottom line for us as

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Speaker 20: a national party is I just don't think they're treaty

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Speaker 20: Principal's bill.

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Speaker 4: It's quite a simplistic way.

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Speaker 1: A stroke of a pen.

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Speaker 19: You said that about a home and we shall sometimes

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Speaker 19: back tomorrow at six am the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: the Rain Driver News Talk ZB five.

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Speaker 3: Away from five. Sorry we jumped an hour just before.

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Speaker 3: So it turns out that the texts that were coming

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Speaker 3: into the show last night, and we actually got quite

688
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Speaker 3: a few, were quite right. The Pulp and Paper Millet

689
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Speaker 3: took it all. Looks like it's going to close, which

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Speaker 3: means the loss of two hundred and thirty jobs. It's

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Speaker 3: basically because manufacturing paper in this country has become unprofitable.

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Speaker 3: It's another mill down. We're going to talk to Joe

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Speaker 3: Gallagher of two who'll bear us shortly straight after the

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Speaker 3: new police boss who's going to be with us straight

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Speaker 3: after the news. Heather. I listened to the Working Group

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Speaker 3: podcast this morning with the special guest Willie Jackson. He

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Speaker 3: mentioned three times that he will not go on your

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Speaker 3: show because you are too rude. That's rich coming from Willy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's gone around calling people liars, so

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Speaker 3: pot kettle mate seems old, poor panco. Willie has got

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Speaker 3: a soft skin in his old age. Yes, I look,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that he'd mentioned me three times. I

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Speaker 3: was where he had mentioned me. He was talking, he

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Speaker 3: was defending the TV INZ and the R and Z

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Speaker 3: journos taking part in his new favorite activity, which was

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Speaker 3: yesterday's hikoy, and he just and couldn't help, like had

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Speaker 3: to get me in there, isn't he.

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Speaker 21: Well that's a lot better than some of the journalists

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Speaker 21: who actually pushed their bias while they're working right, like

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Speaker 21: Mike Hoskins hither duplessy.

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Speaker 11: Yllen very so bad, Sean Plunket.

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Speaker 22: I mean, for goodness, these guys actually on air expressed

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Speaker 22: there a huge bias.

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Speaker 3: Now, just to point out I'm not paid paid by

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Speaker 3: the tax payer, which I think is a fundamental point

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Speaker 3: of difference. And Nora, am I pretending to be neutral?

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Speaker 3: Am I? I'm just wearing mccollor's right on my sleeve

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Speaker 3: for you to see. Can I just say, though, Willie,

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Speaker 3: I didn't say this yesterday, but we asked Willie to

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Speaker 3: come on it. Can remember WILLI wrote a column about me?

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Speaker 3: So has it come on? Come on the show? Oh no,

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Speaker 3: Willie's too busy. So WILLI didn't have five minutes to

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Speaker 3: come on the show, but he did have an hour

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Speaker 3: to go on the podcast. And I just feel like, look,

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Speaker 3: I think we can all see this for what it is,

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Speaker 3: can't we? Will He has mentioned me multiple times now

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Speaker 3: in a podcast, and he's written a column about me,

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Speaker 3: and I think WILLI likes me. He's got a crush

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Speaker 3: on me, because I mean, that's there I'm living in.

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Speaker 3: He's spending a lot of time thinking about me, and look,

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Speaker 3: it's unhealthy, Willie. It's unhealthy to have a crush on me.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I am disgusting and pregnant. So leave it

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Speaker 3: for a little bit, please. News Talk said.

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Speaker 8: Been the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 8: the questions, get the answers by the facts, and give

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Speaker 8: the analysis together due to clan drive with one New Zealand,

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Speaker 8: let's get connected a news Talk.

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Speaker 1: As they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, we have a new police boss and

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Speaker 3: it's been confirmed that it is Richard Chambers. Now, Richard

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Speaker 3: Chambers has been long considered a front runner for the

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Speaker 3: top job. He has experience on the beat and is

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Speaker 3: apparently well regarded by the front line. He has just

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Speaker 3: come back from a stint with Interpol in France and

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Speaker 3: he's with us now. Richard, Hello and congratulations.

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Speaker 6: Heather, Thank you very very much.

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Speaker 3: When do you actually start in the job.

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Speaker 6: My first will be Monday and I'll be spending that

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Speaker 6: day or Cland City District and I'm absolutely decighted because

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Speaker 6: that was the first district I worked in thirty years

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Speaker 6: ago when I joined place.

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Speaker 3: So are you doing a tour of the country, are you.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've got commitments all over the country, but it

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Speaker 6: turns out Monday's the first one. Yes, absolutely, I'll be

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Speaker 6: talking a lot. It's really important for me here that

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Speaker 6: I get out, we get alongside the front line. Frontline

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Speaker 6: is the heart and soul of New Zealand Police and

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Speaker 6: my job is to support them. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what I thought was interesting today was

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Speaker 3: it sounds like you are not keen on it, but

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Speaker 3: open to arming the front line if needed.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: I think we need to keep an open mind heavy

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Speaker 6: and the last year I've worked with police jurisdictions around

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Speaker 6: the world, and I would like to think that New

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Speaker 6: Zealand never gets into a place where that does occur.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't see a place for it in

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Speaker 6: our country. However, I need to be open to the

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Speaker 6: fact that policing is complex, it's volatile, and I need

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Speaker 6: to listen to my staff in terms of what they

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Speaker 6: feel they need to keep themselves safe. And also, you know,

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Speaker 6: just as that volatility continues to develop and tension around

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Speaker 6: the board to reality is you know, I've got to

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Speaker 6: keep an open minded to what do my staff need,

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Speaker 6: what sort of support do they need. Albeit, I would

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Speaker 6: like to think we never get to that place as

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Speaker 6: a country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't you think we are going to, though, Richard,

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Speaker 3: Because it's a completely different place to when you started

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Speaker 3: back in the cops in nineteen ninety six, and when

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Speaker 3: we've got some pretty heavy gangs who love the guns

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Speaker 3: arriving here from Australia.

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Speaker 6: At the moment, yes, absolutely, you know, the stuff I've

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Speaker 6: been exposed to in the last twelve months just demonstrates

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Speaker 6: the links that organized criminals will go to protect their

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Speaker 6: business models. I need to protect my stuff and I

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Speaker 6: will take into account whatever things I need to do

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Speaker 6: to ensure that, but also address the crime that we're

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Speaker 6: dealing with in our country.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean when you say you've been exposed

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Speaker 3: to things in the last twelve months.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've seen the tension, the violence and the impact

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Speaker 6: of organized crime in the last twelve months working in

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Speaker 6: my role with EDEPOL, where I've led their global operations

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Speaker 6: that are focused on organized in a median crime. So

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Speaker 6: it's been a huge help for me to understand where

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Speaker 6: the rest of the world is at and look, if anything,

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Speaker 6: that has absolutely strengthened my love for our country and

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Speaker 6: the work we do in New Zealand Police because actually,

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Speaker 6: whilst we have some challenges, we can be really really

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Speaker 6: proud of who we are and what we do for

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Speaker 6: our country.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know you probably don't want to dump on

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Speaker 3: your predecessor, and I'm not expecting you to, but should

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Speaker 3: we expect a different style from you?

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Speaker 6: Very different style, Heather. You know, at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, nearly thirty years into my police and career,

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Speaker 6: whilst the neighbor of the Commissioner, I am still a

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Speaker 6: police constable. I am still a police officer. Never want

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Speaker 6: to lose sight of way out? Do you want to

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Speaker 6: back in nineteen ninety six and that was to work

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Speaker 6: on the frontline and enjoy every moment of that. So yes,

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Speaker 6: I will bring a different style. I've mentioned this afternoon

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Speaker 6: that obviously one of my priorities to support the funt

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Speaker 6: line and that includes not only issues around safety, but

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Speaker 6: also there well being and that they have the tools

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Speaker 6: they need to do this job. So frontline is a

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Speaker 6: very very important to me. Men and women across the

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Speaker 6: country are the heart and soul of policing and I

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Speaker 6: will be valuing that throughout my time as comissioner.

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Speaker 3: Richard, best of Luck's nice to have you in the job.

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Speaker 3: That's Richard Chambers, incoming police commissioner starts on Monday to

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Speaker 3: do for c Len. We'll come back to what Richard

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Speaker 3: just said just then listen just to go to talk

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Speaker 3: it to though it's a tough day for the town.

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Speaker 3: They've got news that two hundred and thirty jobs are

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Speaker 3: set to be cut at the pulp and paper mill.

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Speaker 3: Now Malaysian manufacturer paper manufacturer og Fiber Solutions owns the

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Speaker 3: place wants to stop producing paper at kin Leath next June.

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Speaker 3: It's already shutting its Penrose plant in Auckland. Joe Gallagher

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Speaker 3: from two was at the meeting with staff this morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey Joe, afternoon, Heather, Joe. Listen, this was always on

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Speaker 3: the cards, wasn't it? After Penrose.

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Speaker 23: We look, you know, we've got facing some pretty tough

835
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Speaker 23: economic conditions. There's a bit more to this potential closure

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Speaker 23: than Penrose. I mean, you've got power, guess prices, you've

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Speaker 23: got an aging plant in a really tough kind of way.

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Speaker 23: We're standing standing there reflecting today. I'm standing in a

839
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Speaker 23: place full of trees. Yet the price of domestic logs.

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Speaker 23: You know, OGI doesn't own a forest, so they have

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Speaker 23: to they have to purchase the logs at roughly three

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Speaker 23: hundred dollars a ton. So and they're saying they can't

843
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Speaker 23: they can't make paper. They need ten tons of chip

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Speaker 23: to make one ton of paper. And they say it's

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Speaker 23: only economical, which is you know, kind of you know,

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Speaker 23: adding head into the mix. And it just doesn't make

847
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Speaker 23: sense when we're in a country full of trees. It's just,

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Speaker 23: you know, it's really hard to take what.

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Speaker 3: Happens to these people. I mean, I can't imagine that

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Speaker 3: there are a huge number of jobs in Talkarora No.

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Speaker 23: And you know it's been around for over fifty years.

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Speaker 23: You know, it's you know, in the Tokura really was

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Speaker 23: born out of the fact that a lot of people

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Speaker 23: are migrated to the area to work at Kindley. So

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Speaker 23: you know a lot of people rely on in the

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Speaker 23: South of Way Katto rely on can Leath. You know,

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Speaker 23: two hundred and thirty jobs. It's not insignificantly, that's not

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Speaker 23: counting the downstream effect on cafes, joctors, nurses and all

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Speaker 23: those other jobs. And someone said to me, oh, they're

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Speaker 23: building a new countdown down there, you know. I mean

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Speaker 23: it's a pretty tough thing to take to, you know,

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Speaker 23: go from well paid jobs are potentially having to work

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Speaker 23: countdown or move away. It's really people are very very upset, Joe.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen to the paper now as well?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 23: I mean essentially they will import paper from their Malaysian

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Speaker 23: plant or any other supplier that they can get.

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Speaker 3: But weren't they, Joe, weren't they recycling our paper? Weren't

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Speaker 3: we sending our paper there for recycling a.

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Speaker 23: Portion of it? But you know that a lot of

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Speaker 23: the stuff that They've got a paper machine there that

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Speaker 23: makes a lot of that packaging stuff that they supply

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Speaker 23: to the fruit industry in different industries, so they will

874
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Speaker 23: import that and that kind of raises that question. And

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Speaker 23: this is why I'm saying, you know, we need to

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Speaker 23: halt the consultation. We need to sit down at this

877
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Speaker 23: serious about it. We need to talk to people like

878
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Speaker 23: Shane Jones have got a regional growth fund. This is

879
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Speaker 23: a perfect example of way we can get some money,

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Speaker 23: put some horse fare and it get some call heads

881
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Speaker 23: in the room and circle could come up with a

882
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Speaker 23: way to support can lead in the water community to

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Speaker 23: continue to make paper in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Joe beast of like, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: It's Joe Gallagher from IT two. Hey, I'm going to

886
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Speaker 3: come back to Richard Chambers. And also we need to

887
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Speaker 3: talk about you know how I've been going on about

888
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Speaker 3: the money that's being spent at COP twenty nine, the

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Speaker 3: climate conference. You're going to want to hear this bear

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Speaker 1: Six to two ever duper c Allen Heather, I.

916
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Speaker 3: Already feel safe for listening to Richard Chambers. I've got

917
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Speaker 3: hope for New Zealand again. Yes, he finally a breath

918
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Speaker 3: of fresh air leadership for us in the New Zealand Police.

919
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Speaker 3: Breath of fresh air goes on and on. How much

920
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Speaker 3: did the country just breathe a sigh of relief listening

921
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Speaker 3: to Richard Ay, I mean to be decent guy, obviously

922
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Speaker 3: was without being mean to Andrew Costa made it very

923
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Speaker 3: clear things are going to change at the New Zealand

924
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Speaker 3: Police and that he is a cop first and foremost,

925
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Speaker 3: and he's going to do his job and he's going

926
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Speaker 3: to look after the frontline guys who have been complaining

927
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Speaker 3: for a little while about the situation. So yay, eighteen

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Speaker 3: past five. Now this reach research I was telling you

929
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Speaker 3: about earlier. Researchers have found that setting screen time rules

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Speaker 3: can lower the risk of childhood obesity. This is a

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Speaker 3: study from the University of Auckland and also Saint George's

932
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Speaker 3: University of London, using data from nearly six thousand kids

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Speaker 3: and mums and Professor of population, nutrition and global health.

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Speaker 3: Boyd Swinburn was part of it.

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Speaker 21: Boyd, hello, Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. So basically what you found

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Speaker 3: is less screen time equals more sleep. Sleep time equals

938
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Speaker 3: the kids don't get us fat.

939
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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of it. We're specifically looking at

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Speaker 21: the rules actually with parents applied to preschoolers and whether

941
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Speaker 21: the more rules they had around screen time were predictive

942
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Speaker 21: of less obesity by eight four and a half. So

943
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Speaker 21: this is all preschoolers, and recommendations are obviously for very

944
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Speaker 21: low levels of screen time less than on our a

945
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Speaker 21: day is what who recommends, But of course that doesn't

946
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Speaker 21: actually happen with most kids. In fact, in this cohort

947
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Speaker 21: it was almost seventy percent of them actually had more

948
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Speaker 21: than an hour of screen time a day. So it

949
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Speaker 21: is a challenge keeping these young kids away from the screens.

950
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Speaker 21: But the more rules that were in the household, the

951
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Speaker 21: less they watched, the less screen time they had, and

952
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Speaker 21: also the better slip duration they had along the sleep.

953
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Speaker 3: Well, it is it not possible simply that families that

954
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Speaker 3: are prepared to set screen time rules, our families that

955
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Speaker 3: are prepared to set any kind of rule whether it's

956
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Speaker 3: you go to bed at seven rule, you eat your vegetables,

957
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Speaker 3: you don't get ice cream rule.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think that's true. And the households that are

959
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Speaker 21: kind of chaotic more likely to have rules and rules

960
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Speaker 21: around multiple things, putting boundaries around kids, and have have

961
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Speaker 21: better outcomes. Families which are a bit more chaotic, especially

962
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Speaker 21: if fellow income families and they're struggling, then that tends

963
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Speaker 21: to be more chaos and more difficulty in maintaining screen times.

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Speaker 21: And actually screens are obviously a good way to keep

965
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Speaker 21: kids engage when you're trying to do other things, you know,

966
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Speaker 21: make dinner, and the chaos produce the chaos.

967
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Boyd, thank you appreciate it's fascinating. Boyd Swinburn, professor

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Speaker 3: of Population, Nutrition and Global Health at the University of Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Tell you the rule I'm trying to enforce at the

970
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Speaker 3: moment is the clock rule. You can buy these things

971
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Speaker 3: called todd the clocks. And because kids can't read time,

972
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Speaker 3: obviously they know colors though, So it's blue when it's

973
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Speaker 3: sleep time, and it's yellow when it's a wake time,

974
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Speaker 3: and awake time is now seven o'clock. And I'm trying

975
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Speaker 3: to train him to only get out of bed. So

976
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Speaker 3: at seven o'clock every morning, I hear, mamma't lello it's

977
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Speaker 3: lello'clock is Lollo? And now I have to give him

978
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Speaker 3: a car. And I'm running every time, and I'm running

979
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Speaker 3: out of cars. So now we're going. We've got the chart.

980
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Speaker 3: You remember this when you were a kid. I'm literally

981
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Speaker 3: turning into my mother. I've got a star chart and

982
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Speaker 3: he gets four stars, then he gets a car. Wish

983
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Speaker 3: me luck. I'm sort of working, sort of working five

984
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Speaker 3: to twenty one.

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Speaker 12: The name you trust to get the answers you need

986
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Speaker 12: Heather Dupless Allen drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and you talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's five twenty four. Listen once again. I'm very

989
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Speaker 3: excited to tell you because everybody will be very excited

990
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Speaker 3: to tell you that the stats show that kids aren't

991
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Speaker 3: binge drinking like we used to. This is according to

992
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Speaker 3: the latest health surveys. Telling you about it yesterday, I

993
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Speaker 3: had the city rates and stuff in it all Today

994
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Speaker 3: the figures that have come out show the binge drinking

995
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Speaker 3: and it shows that of all the age groups doing

996
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Speaker 3: the hazardous drinking it's the eighteen to twenty four year olds,

997
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Speaker 3: the young university age kids where you would expect you

998
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Speaker 3: know them to be to really be getting on the sherbets.

999
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Speaker 3: They are the ones who've dropped the biggest the binge

1000
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Speaker 3: drinking in the biggest way. Five years ago, more than

1001
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Speaker 3: a third of them were drinking dangerously. Now it's less

1002
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Speaker 3: than a quarter.

1003
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Speaker 14: Now.

1004
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Speaker 3: This is good news, right, because I mean, I think

1005
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Speaker 3: we all know that binge drinking is at best unhealthy

1006
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Speaker 3: and at worst, frankly quite dangerous. But why they aren't

1007
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Speaker 3: drinking I think maybe something that we should be also

1008
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Speaker 3: quite worried about, because there is a lot to suggest

1009
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Speaker 3: that the reason that they've given up booze like this

1010
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Speaker 3: is not just because they don't like the booze, but

1011
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Speaker 3: it's actually because they haven't got any friends.

1012
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Speaker 6: Now.

1013
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: There is an article in The Atlantic that I remember

1014
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Speaker 3: reading seven years ago and went back and had a

1015
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Speaker 3: look at it again, and it's so good. It talks

1016
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Speaker 3: about this. It talks about the fact that kids nowadays

1017
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Speaker 3: are safer than they ever have been before. They're less

1018
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: likely to get in a car accident, they're less likely

1019
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: to drink alcohol, they're less likely to have an accidental

1020
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Speaker 3: pregnancy because they're not going out and partying and having

1021
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Speaker 3: sex anymore, are they They're not doing that. Do you

1022
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Speaker 3: know what they do? They're at home on social media

1023
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Speaker 3: on their cell phones. That's not a good thing. I mean,

1024
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Speaker 3: this is a generation that we're dealing with at the

1025
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Speaker 3: moment that is lonelier than ever and as far as

1026
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: we can tell, has got more mental health problems currently

1027
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Speaker 3: than ever before, including depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation. And this

1028
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Speaker 3: is because they're lonely, because they don't have friends. Because

1029
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Speaker 3: the time that you and I were spending with our friends,

1030
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Speaker 3: they are spending sitting on their cell phones. So while

1031
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: absolutely we should celebrate less boozing, I think we might

1032
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: just want to hold off on the celebrations until we

1033
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: know exactly why we have less boozing. Ever do for

1034
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Speaker 3: ce Ellen, Okay, please.

1035
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Speaker 6: Let me do it.

1036
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Speaker 3: You think I'd love to know. And we're going to

1037
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Speaker 3: talk to the huddle about it shortly. And the text

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Speaker 3: number is nine two nine two. Now the climate change.

1039
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Speaker 3: So we've been talking about COP twenty nine.

1040
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Speaker 7: Right.

1041
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Speaker 3: This is where all the people get together in a

1042
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: generally at lately an oil producing nation. Irony not lost

1043
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: on us, and they talk about all the good things

1044
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: they're going to do for the climate, and generally they

1045
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: really come to know or consensus, and they jet off

1046
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: on their planes again irony not lost on us, and

1047
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: then they come back next year to you know, do

1048
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: it all again. Anyway, we have decided, we were talking

1049
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Speaker 3: about this earlier in the show that it's going to

1050
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Speaker 3: be very I think it was on Monday with Paul Goldsmith.

1051
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Speaker 3: It's going to be very hard to justify because the

1052
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: thing they were trying to do at COP twenty nine

1053
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: this year was get together this one trillion dollar fund

1054
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Speaker 3: or something like that, huge amount of money for third

1055
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Speaker 3: world countries, developing countries to help them to pay for,

1056
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: you know, all the bad things that we've done to

1057
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Speaker 3: the climate. Very hard to justify that to Kiwik's coughing

1058
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: up heaps of money because we're also doing it tough. Well,

1059
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: we just coughed up money ten million dollars, which is

1060
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: like nothing, so it's almost embarrassing. So the Minister is

1061
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: going to be with us next stand by.

1062
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Speaker 12: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

1063
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 12: your car on your drive home. Hither duple c allan

1064
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 12: drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news

1065
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 12: talk as they'd be.

1066
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Speaker 3: Hey, after six o'clock, we're gonna have a chat to

1067
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Speaker 3: Varry McGuire, who's from the Commerce Commission. They've just given

1068
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: permission to Transpower and other lines companies to up your

1069
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Speaker 3: power bill. And your power bill is going to go

1070
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Speaker 3: up by one hundred and twenty dollars a year from April.

1071
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Speaker 3: And that's just the first of many charges coming your way,

1072
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Speaker 3: so hold fire on that one. And also the huddle

1073
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Speaker 3: is standing by Jack Tamer Morris Williamson with us hither.

1074
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Speaker 3: I have three teen boys. They're thirteen, eighteen, and nineteen,

1075
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Speaker 3: and I've hosted several large teenage parties at home over

1076
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Speaker 3: the past two years. And these kids partied well, but

1077
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Speaker 3: they drank limited alcohol. They seem to bring a lot

1078
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Speaker 3: with them to parties, but they don't actually drink that

1079
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: much of it. They're busy, they're studying, they're working, the fishing,

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Speaker 3: they're surfing, et cetera. Do I think you'd write to

1081
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Speaker 3: a degree about some kids but not all kids, which

1082
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Speaker 3: is fair, But I mean if you were if your

1083
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Speaker 3: kids are out surfing and doing all those kinds of

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Speaker 3: things and fishing and stuff. They sound like they're pretty healthy. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: not all kids are as healthy as that. We've got

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Speaker 3: a major problem with the cell phones. Anyway, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about this with the huddle shortly. It's twenty four away

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Speaker 3: from six heather. Climate Change Minister has announced that we're

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Speaker 3: going to be contributing ten million dollars to the UN's

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Speaker 3: Fund for Climate Loss and Damage. The fund was set

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Speaker 3: up last year in order to help poorer countries suffering

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Speaker 3: the effects of climate change. And Simon, what is the

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Speaker 3: Climate change minister who's at COP twenty nine in Azerbaijana

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Speaker 3: with us? Now, Hey, Simon, Hey, hey, hel Ever, I'm

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Speaker 3: very well, thank you. Listen this Loss and Damage Fund

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Speaker 3: that we're putting the ten million into, is this the

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Speaker 3: same as the one trillion dollar demand from the poorer

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Speaker 3: countries or is this completely separate demands.

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Speaker 10: No, it's completely separate.

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Speaker 24: It's a fund to support particularly developing countries that are

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Speaker 24: vulnerable to the effects of climate change and it helps

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Speaker 24: with the economic loss and damage associated with adverse weather

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Speaker 24: events in those countries.

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Speaker 10: It's run by the United Nations and the funding comes

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Speaker 10: out of our.

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Speaker 24: Our overseas aid budget through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so how did you guys go in terms

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Speaker 3: of reaching summer gant on the one trillion dollar fund?

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Speaker 24: So those negotiations of underway have just come out of

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Speaker 24: another session sort of in negotiating rooms at the moment,

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Speaker 24: but you know, cautiously optimistic. We've still got two and

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Speaker 24: a half days to land at. The Australians and the

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Speaker 24: Egyptians are co facilitating. But I had a session last

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Speaker 24: night with those and also the US, UK and other

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Speaker 24: countries just to discuss how that's progressing.

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Speaker 10: But it's going okay.

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Speaker 3: And how much are you going to put into that?

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Speaker 10: We haven't quantified the amount.

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Speaker 24: The focused by countries is what's the structure of the fund,

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Speaker 24: how it will actually deploy the money. Who contributes is

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Speaker 24: a big question because obviously we us go onto saying well,

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Speaker 24: if countries have the means to contribute, then they should,

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Speaker 24: and that's an item that's under dispute by some of

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Speaker 24: the big players out there.

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Speaker 10: And also what do you count in terms of that money.

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Speaker 24: There's obviously private funding as well as Crown funding that

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Speaker 24: will come from countries.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we need to get to one trillion

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to put a lot, and even as

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Speaker 3: a small country like New Zealand, aren't we I look.

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Speaker 24: The reality is as the big players, the Japan's, the US,

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Speaker 24: the EUS, the UK's, they do the lion's share of

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Speaker 24: the funding.

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Speaker 10: New Zealand does contribute.

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Speaker 24: But you know the reality is our numbers are the

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Speaker 24: material and the context of in Simon.

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Speaker 3: Are we being serious one trillion dollars? This is a

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Speaker 3: serious discussion.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it is a serious amount of funding required. The

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Speaker 10: amounts of money.

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Speaker 3: You're going to sell that to the New Zealand public

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Speaker 3: who are currently unable to pay their mortgages. They've just

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Speaker 3: been told their power bills are going to go up.

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Speaker 3: We can barely afford anything in this country. And now

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Speaker 3: you're telling me that we have to give potentially like

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Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars to developing countries to help

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Speaker 3: them out with climate change.

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Speaker 10: They either I didn't say, that's what you said.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's wonder.

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Speaker 3: About as I just assume that if we're contributing, we

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Speaker 3: would be.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, we're not contributing the numbers that and as I said,

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Speaker 24: we haven't agreed on what countries are contributing. They're looking

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Speaker 24: at how do you structure that fund, how does that

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Speaker 24: fund work, how is it going to be deployed?

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Speaker 3: But the principle is the same. We're going to sell

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Speaker 3: this to people who feel like we're already broke.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 24: The reality is is that the countries around the world

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Speaker 24: are dealing with the impacts of climate change, and New

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Speaker 24: Zealand is alongside one hundred and ninety five other countries

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Speaker 24: acknowledging there is a problem and we all need to

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Speaker 24: play our part. We're not going to be doing a

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Speaker 24: significant amount of funding into that model, but what we

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Speaker 24: do do is provide.

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Speaker 10: Technical expertise through our officials.

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Speaker 24: Which are rated as some of the best negotiators in

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Speaker 24: the world, to make sure that that structure is an

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Speaker 24: enduring structure and the big players.

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Speaker 10: Like Japan and etc. Are the ones to come up

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Speaker 10: with the money.

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Speaker 24: It also includes private funding, so private sector capital, it's

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Speaker 24: not just government money as well.

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Speaker 3: Cool, Hey, listen, if Trump pulls out of the Paris Agreement,

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Speaker 3: do we.

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Speaker 10: No, we don't.

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Speaker 24: And look, I had a good chat with the US

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Speaker 24: team last night. They're providing a lot of technical support

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Speaker 24: still irrespective for change of administration.

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Speaker 10: They're really supportive of New Zealand and.

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Speaker 3: Part of the Paris Agreement. Then what's the point, Well.

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Speaker 24: There's none of those agreements have been made. The reality

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Speaker 24: is there's one hundred and ninety five countries here.

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Speaker 10: They're not here. There's one hundred and ninety four.

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Speaker 24: There is a consensus view across the globe and that's

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Speaker 24: how these these things work.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, Simon, thanks really appreciate a best of

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Speaker 3: luck with Adam one trillion dollar fund. That's Simon Watts,

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Speaker 3: the Climate Change Minister.

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Speaker 8: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 8: global exposure.

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Speaker 1: Like no other.

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Speaker 3: On the Huddle of this it's evening. We got Jack Tame,

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Speaker 3: host of Q and A and Saturday Mornings, and Morris

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Speaker 3: Williams and Auckland councilor and former National Party Cabinet minister.

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Speaker 3: Hello you too, all right? What did you think then,

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Speaker 3: Morris of Richard Chambers like the sound.

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Speaker 25: Of it, give me a clue on this one? Sorry,

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Speaker 25: this is the new police Yeah sorry, sorry, yes, I

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Speaker 25: only read about it. We've forgotten no, no, no no,

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Speaker 25: I've just come from a budget meeting that's lasted all

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Speaker 25: day and my brain cells will a bit of Warman.

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Speaker 10: He looks very good.

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Speaker 25: I think I think his everything I've read about him,

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Speaker 25: I was hoping it would going to be him compared

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Speaker 25: to the other guy. I think the right decisions.

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Speaker 3: Really bumped into him because he used to be the

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Speaker 3: district commander and all that.

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Speaker 25: I've bumped into him a few times and been very impressed,

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Speaker 25: incredibly impressed. I think it makes a big difference into

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Speaker 25: the whole culture and everything totally.

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Speaker 3: And Jack, he could not have hidden the fact he

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Speaker 3: was making it very clear that this is going to

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Speaker 3: be a complete step change from Andrew Costa, didn't He.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it was interesting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: I had this really interesting interview with Andrew Costa just

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Speaker 26: a month or so ago, just before he kind of

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Speaker 26: finished up, and he had one reflection from his time

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Speaker 26: in office, so I thought it was quite telling. He

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Speaker 26: said that one thing he had really come to appreciate

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Speaker 26: was how important the perceptions of crime were, so not

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Speaker 26: just how important the actual crime rates were, but how

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Speaker 26: important the perceptions of crime were. And he said that

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Speaker 26: he perhaps hadn't appreciated that as well at the start

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Speaker 26: of his time as Commissioner. And I think, going from

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Speaker 26: your conversations with Chambers, This is someone who absolutely appreciates

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Speaker 26: the perceptions of crime and language that he's using. Even

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Speaker 26: if the actual policing doesn't materially change in a massive way,

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Speaker 26: the language around that policing I think you really get

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Speaker 26: and I think that's a significant change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think people are going to like it

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Speaker 3: very much. Hey Morris, did you just are you a

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Speaker 3: board member of AT?

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Speaker 25: You've got to say that with a bit of sympathy

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Speaker 25: as you say it. Ye, yes, I've been appointed to

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Speaker 25: the board of AT. You haven't been to a board

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Speaker 25: meeting yet, so don't blame me for the issue.

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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to sort out the driveway situation?

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Speaker 25: I'm going to try and sort out a huge number

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Speaker 25: of issues that are at AT, because I have to

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Speaker 25: say I've been to about four barbecues and functions since

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Speaker 25: I was appointed, and every time people have walked up

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Speaker 25: to me and said have you just been put on

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Speaker 25: the board of AT, And I said yeah, they said

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Speaker 25: you poor bastard. Instead of congratulations, it's oh no, what

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Speaker 25: did you do that's caused that to a being punished?

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Speaker 25: So tell me what your perspective is. What is your

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Speaker 25: view on people parking in their own driveway and then

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Speaker 25: getting fined for that. It's very simple in my view

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Speaker 25: if it's to do with safety. If you're parked over,

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Speaker 25: say a cycle way, and a cyclists like that it

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Speaker 25: hit your toe bar, kill themselves, then you've got to

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Speaker 25: be fine. And if you're parking over a foot path

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Speaker 25: where kids are coming along on their bike and you

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Speaker 25: edit the car. But if you're in a driveway that

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Speaker 25: belongs to your property and you're not overlapping into anything else,

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Speaker 25: so you're not posing a say what the hell is

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Speaker 25: wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: Quite? Jack? Where do you stand on this?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: I totally agree. If you're blocking the footpath or you're

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Speaker 26: blocking a cycle way, you're blocking part of the road

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Speaker 26: we shouldn't be then yes, you should be fine. If

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Speaker 26: you're not and it's your property, then we shouldn't be

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Speaker 26: worried about totally.

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Speaker 3: Now, why are they doing this, Morris?

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Speaker 16: So?

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Speaker 3: Are they just trying to get some money in?

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Speaker 10: I look, I don't know.

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Speaker 25: I've been at a budget meeting all day, as I said,

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Speaker 25: So I'm going to get and trying to find out

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Speaker 25: from the Chief executive.

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Speaker 3: Now, as far as I know, no other council enforces

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Speaker 3: this rule. It's a national rule, nobody enforces it except

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Speaker 3: for AU Transport, and they just raise their fines, so

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Speaker 3: it feels like revenue grabbing.

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Speaker 25: I'd like to well, I'm going to make sure it's

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Speaker 25: not revenue racing, because that's not what its purpose should be.

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Speaker 25: I accept that if you are blocking things, causing a

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Speaker 25: safety issue and so on, then you're not to park

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Speaker 25: your car. But if you're parking in a length of

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Speaker 25: a part of your driveway that's not overlapping in any way,

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Speaker 25: not causing a problem, that's your part. You're only denying

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Speaker 25: access into your property. So what's the problem.

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Speaker 26: I'm confused by, though, are the only people who are

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Speaker 26: actually getting fined and the people who are parking, like

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Speaker 26: with the really big berms, who are parking in that

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Speaker 26: kind of strip of the berm between the path in

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Speaker 26: the road the burm Jack.

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Speaker 25: As far as I understand, the berms and some of

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Speaker 25: these parts that're talking about out and Gray Linn and others,

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Speaker 25: the berms are wide enough that a length of a

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Speaker 25: car can fit in there and not be onto the

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Speaker 25: foot path and not else the.

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Speaker 26: Sorry, So if not a car, what else would be

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Speaker 26: taking that space?

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Speaker 1: Fresh air?

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Speaker 25: Fresh air would be there, so it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well we all agreed on that one.

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Speaker 23: Oh Man, do you know what?

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Speaker 3: Tell you what, Morris? If you need some help at

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: at Jack and I are available to be.

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Speaker 25: Board members as well, set up a subcommittee.

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Speaker 3: Why don't I think I think it's a great idea. Right,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a break. Come back to these two very

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00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: shortly caught.

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Speaker 8: It to the huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 8: elevator marketing of your home.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with a huddle, Jack Tayman, Morris Williams

1313
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 3: and Jack. What about from one thing to the other?

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Speaker 3: The road cones and traffic management that have cost us

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Speaker 3: eight hundred million bucks and three years.

1316
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Speaker 1: It does seem like a huge sum of money.

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Speaker 26: Not quite as big as that climate fund you were

1318
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 26: just talking about with Simon Watts, but it does seem

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Speaker 26: like a vast sum of money. But I was trying

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00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 26: to get in my head like what is an appropriate

1321
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 26: cost for travel management? Because if all of that money

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Speaker 26: had been spent only on road cones, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 26: that would be egregious, But when you think about some

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 26: of the traffic management that kind of has to be

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00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 26: in place when there are really significant roadworks or roads

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 26: being developed. I can imagine that that stuff wouldn't come cheap.

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Speaker 26: So it's hard to know whether or not eight hundred

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Speaker 26: million dollars represents good value for money. But yes, on

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Speaker 26: the face of it, it does seem like a very,

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Speaker 26: very very significant sum.

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Speaker 25: Jack, I've got a very strong view of this. We

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Speaker 25: used to have a very different regime. Certainly, while all

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 25: the years Ice Transport Minister, you put a road cone

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Speaker 25: at the beginning of a site, and you put one

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Speaker 25: at the end and have a little sticker beware, and

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 25: the amount of meatalities and injuries and that was almost

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Speaker 25: zero any rate. So what is the problem you're trying

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Speaker 25: to fix? And now you do a speed bump in

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Speaker 25: Williamson Avenue and of the seven hundred and ninety thousand

1340
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 25: to do that bump, one hundred and seventy thousand was

1341
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Speaker 25: traffic safety managing nuts. That makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: The other day I was driving, I'll tell you what, Jack,

1343
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: the other day I was driving in Corrimandel and they

1344
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: had blocked off I reckon. I don't want to be unkind.

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Speaker 3: Let's say a k and a half. I feel like

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01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: it's two k's but I'm going to go k and

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01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: a half just to be conservative about a k and

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: a half of road because they with with traffic cones

1349
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Speaker 3: everywhere because they had one digger on the side of

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01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: the road. And what it is is that it's just

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Speaker 3: over kell right. It can just be brought right back,

1352
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Speaker 3: so you don't need to block off that much road.

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Speaker 3: You can third it.

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Speaker 26: Probably, Yeah, I mean, I would certainly agree with that.

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Speaker 4: That seems absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 26: It's just you know what I mean, it is hard

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Speaker 26: to quantify without breaking down every single you know, traffic

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Speaker 26: management in place. But yeah, I would. I would for

1359
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 26: sure say that sometimes we do go a bit over

1360
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Speaker 26: the top of this. If the alternative is that more

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Speaker 26: people die, then I'm not into it.

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Speaker 3: But if you can do it, So what's the value

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Speaker 3: of a Life's what's the value of a life?

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Speaker 25: It always has to be safety at reasonable costs. Make

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 25: safety at any cost. Then you drive it ten kilometers

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Speaker 25: now and no one wou the economy would be I'm

1367
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 25: not being facetious here.

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Speaker 3: We literally value a life, right, So you've got to

1369
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: you've actually got to work out the calculations. Go, well,

1370
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: we can afford to lose one.

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Speaker 25: But let me give you the most egregious example. State

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Speaker 25: Highway one, the Wayout Expressway near taking RANGERII, for five

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 25: months had big signs up for seventy K and orange cones,

1374
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 25: but they weren't actually able to get the people that

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 25: could come in and do the chip seal to come in.

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 25: So for five months, seventy K was up where if

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Speaker 25: you drove through RANGAIRII, yet it's one hundred and ten

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Speaker 25: kilometer rote and you know what everyone did, They drove

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Speaker 25: it one hundred and k. And when I caught in

1380
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Speaker 25: touch with n ZTA and said, what is going on here, Oh, well,

1381
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 25: well you don't want to take all the signage down

1382
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 25: because we're hoping to get the contractor on the site soon,

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Speaker 25: I said, it's five months. My mother was in whiteout hospital.

1384
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 25: I was going down almost daily, and I said, well,

1385
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 25: when I was boss of when I was minister, I

1386
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 25: actually told trends that that's unacceptable. Go out with some

1387
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 25: sugar sacks, pull them over the seventy K sign and

1388
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 25: then take them off when you're ready to do the

1389
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 25: chib right. It is just there's no focus on the customer,

1390
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 25: which is the driver and the person who's paying the

1391
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 25: fuel tax. You're paying fuel tax, you're paying road user charges,

1392
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 25: you're paying registration for all the work these people are

1393
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 25: do it and they don't give us stuff about the

1394
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 25: customer exactly.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jack, tell me quickly, what's your theories. We haven't

1396
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: got long now, but what's your theory on why the

1397
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Speaker 3: kids are drinking less?

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Speaker 26: I think you're right, I think to a certain degree.

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Speaker 26: I think they probably don't socialize in person the same

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01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 26: way that previous generations do. And you look at kind

1401
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 26: of similar studies out of the US. It shows that

1402
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 26: young people use recreational drugs, lest they actually have sex

1403
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 26: at an older age. And you might say that these

1404
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 26: are all positive things, and look, in one sense they are,

1405
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 26: but yeah, living well, I think if the cost of

1406
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 26: any of these things, or if this is reflective of

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01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 26: people being more isolated lonely, then that comes with its

1408
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 26: own series of health chapters. Whether or not these directly,

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 26: you know, it's like a causational correlation thing. Whether or

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01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 26: not you're able to say one is directly causational or

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 26: the other, I'm not sure, But yeah, I think there

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Speaker 26: is something in what you said. Although generally speaking, young

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 26: people having less hazardous drinking is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

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Speaker 25: I think it's great, but I think a whole lot

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01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 25: of drivers. First of all, technology and gaming. All my

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01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 25: boys were on gaming machines and spending hours and nights

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01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 25: on and so on. And my oldest son has never

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01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 25: drunk a drop of alcohol in his life. He's in

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Speaker 25: his thirties now, never drunk. And he said, every time

1421
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 25: I looked in the rear seat, in the mirror of

1422
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 25: my friends in the back seat drunk as a skunk

1423
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 25: at three am, I thought, no, I'm never doing that.

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 25: And I just think now, people, I remember parties at

1425
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 25: power Nui where we would walk down the beach to

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 25: somewhere and couldn't almost walk home. We were so blotto.

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01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 25: And I don't do that anymore.

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: Does Parwa Nui? Before it was flash?

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Speaker 7: No?

1430
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 3: Oh, now you flash guy, But I.

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01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 25: Just don't do it anymore. I have a glass of

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01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 25: wine with a little bit.

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Speaker 3: No good for you, Morris same. I am completely alcohol

1434
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: free at the moment. Actually, yeah, but you have to

1435
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: be I do now. I was trying to be. I

1436
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: was trying to be a little bit morally righteous there

1437
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: for once in my life. Guys, Thank you appreciate it.

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: Morris Williamson and Jack daymerhuddle this evening it's seven away

1439
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: from six.

1440
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Speaker 1: Red or blue, Trump or Harrison? Who will win the

1441
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: battleground states.

1442
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: The latest on the US election is Heather Duplicy Alan

1443
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand.

1444
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: Let's get connected. Use dogs'd be.

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: Five away from six Heather. This guy is awesome. He

1446
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: speaks real common sense. That's Morris Williamson. That's probably why

1447
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: he was elected a whole bunch of times into Parliament

1448
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: because people like the sound of it. Hither kids drink

1449
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: less because they take more drugs. I'm getting a lot

1450
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: of text saying that. And look, there will be an

1451
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: element to that, right, It's not just one reason why

1452
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: something happens. There'll be more drugs which kids are finding

1453
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: more fun and it's more readily available in New Zealand now,

1454
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: and then it'll be the smartphones, and then it'll just

1455
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: be some you know, maybe changing attitudes towards alcohol because

1456
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: we you know, we're not being raised by six swillers anymore,

1457
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: are we which being raised by the children. So the

1458
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: distance between us now and the six o'clock swill will

1459
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: be helpings about a bunch of factors. But I think

1460
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: let's be careful before we celebrate too much, because we

1461
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: want us to be celebrating the good stuff and not

1462
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: the bad stuff quickly. It's weird for me to be

1463
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: on the route like the same side as Brian Tarmacke

1464
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: on any issue. But I have to say today I

1465
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: am not unhappy to see that he's had all of

1466
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: the charges against him dropped today. These are the charges,

1467
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 3: by the way, that were related to the lockdown breaches

1468
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: in Auckland. Remember they were holding he and Hannah Tamacky

1469
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: and all those guys were holding those those like picnics

1470
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: in the domain, which was just breaking the lockdown rules

1471
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: when Auckland was in lockdown three years ago. What happened

1472
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: is actually earlier this week, the judge dismissed some of

1473
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: the charges on a legal point, and so already he

1474
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 3: was down to only a couple of charges left. This

1475
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: is Brian Tarmacky. And then today during the morning break,

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01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: the Crown prosecutor decided to drop the rest because it

1477
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: was no longer in the public interest to proceed with

1478
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: the remaining charges, and the judge agreed, and so it's

1479
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Speaker 3: all over now. I totally agree. Look, They definitely broke

1480
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: the r rules at the time, but who cares right

1481
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: it was lockdown. We all hated lockdown. Those rules no

1482
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: longer reply, what's the point of punishing them three years

1483
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: on when the rules no longer apply and in the

1484
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: end we all now know it made no difference to

1485
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: the lockdown working or not. Lockdown was failing anyway, let's

1486
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: move on. What I'd like to know though, is why

1487
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: did Crownlaw not drop the charges earlier? Why did they

1488
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: wait three years and two weeks into the trial before.

1489
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Speaker 3: That's a waste of money and time, isn't it? So anyway,

1490
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: that's on them. But the right thing happened today. I think.

1491
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Speaker 3: Next up, let's talk about what's going to happen to

1492
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 3: your power bill News Talks EDB.

1493
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: What's down?

1494
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: What were the major calls and how will it affect

1495
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Speaker 2: the economy of the big business? Questions on the Business

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Speaker 2: Hour with hither duplicy Alan and my AhR on us TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. Investors are

1498
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Speaker 3: apparently quite interested in the rise of robotics and all

1499
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Speaker 3: the pedic surgeries. So we'll have a little chat to

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Speaker 3: Molk for asset managements Deborah, Debra. And beyond that, staying

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Speaker 3: on medicine, we're going to talk about concerns that we're

1502
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: over diagnosing and over prescribing for ADHD. And we've got

1503
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: another face off between the banks and the reserve. Banks

1504
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: will get you across that. It's eight past six now

1505
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: bad news. Unfortunately, looks like your power bill is going

1506
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: to go up by one hundred and twenty dollars a

1507
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Speaker 3: year starting April. And that's not the end of it.

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Speaker 3: And that is because the Commerce Commission has now given

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Speaker 3: permission to transpower and local lines companies to charge you more. Now,

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Speaker 3: Varra mcuah is from the Commerce Commission, Hi Vari, Hi Heather,

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Speaker 3: what are the lines companies and transper are going to

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Speaker 3: use the money for?

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Speaker 27: So they are experiencing on increasing costs. So, like many

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Speaker 27: businesses around New Zealand, the costs of their business has

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01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 27: risen over the last couple of years and they're expecting

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01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 27: increases and costs moving forward. So about half of the

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 27: increase relates to price increases, so the cost of inputs.

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 27: The other half is related to increasing investment and increasing expenditure,

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Speaker 27: which is really to make sure that the lines are

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 27: reliable and safe for consumers over the longer term.

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: Right, So are we talking about just sort of maintenance

1522
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: here and there or full replacement?

1523
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 11: So it varies.

1524
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 27: So for transpower in particular, some of their assets are

1525
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 27: now quite old and they need to be replaced, and

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 27: some of them are less old, so they will be

1527
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 27: maintaining those. There's also a component there of system growth.

1528
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 27: So obviously we know that the economy is increasingly relying

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 27: on electricity as a fuel rather than fossil fuels, and

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 27: so that requires some growth in terms of the size

1531
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 27: of those electricity networks to move it around the country.

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Speaker 3: You're basically to be able to handle evs and stuff

1533
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: like that, right, Yes, that's right.

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 27: So transportation and a bit of industrial process heat are

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 27: the main things there.

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 3: Okay, have you guys done? I mean, what you're doing

1537
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: is one hundred and twenty dollars a year from April?

1538
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 27: Is it?

1539
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: In the five year package? It's about three hundred and

1540
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: sixty dollars extra will be paying, right, So in five

1541
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: years from now, my power bill across the year will

1542
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 3: be three hundred and sixty dollars more than it is

1543
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: right now.

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 11: Yes, that's correct.

1545
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 27: So the average increase will be three hundred and sixty

1546
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 27: dollars across.

1547
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: A lot of Okay, have you done the sums on

1548
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 3: how much more in total? Like when you guys made

1549
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: this considered this, did you consider how much in total

1550
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: we'd be paying more across our electricity bill? Because it's

1551
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 3: not just this, right, we've got the scrapping of the

1552
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: low user plans that's going to put up prices, with

1553
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 3: the power companies just charging people more shortage gas and

1554
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So did you consider the full impact

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: on the consumer?

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 27: So we are obviously concerned about the impact on consumers

1557
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 27: and we recognized that price rises and if you're welcome, however,

1558
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 27: we do just focus on these two elements of the

1559
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 27: power bill in terms of making these decisions, So we

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01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 27: haven't we haven't looked at the impact of those things.

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 27: We'd really hope that and the longer term competition will

1562
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 27: help to keep the prices and the rest of the

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 27: market to a more reasonable level.

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Speaker 3: Bari, thank you appreciate all of that. That's Varry mcwah

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Speaker 3: who's from the COMMUS Commission. Got a statement, by the way,

1566
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 3: if you're interested in the driveway thing, got a statement

1567
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: from Auckland Transport I'm going to get to let me

1568
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: tell you, it does not make the situation any better

1569
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: water surprise. Hey, but how about this Jaguar as in

1570
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: the car guys, Jaguar are going to get rid of

1571
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: their their logo, you know, the iconic brand, that badge

1572
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: that's got the cat that growls gone. They're going to

1573
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 3: keep it, I mean, to be fair, they're going to

1574
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: keep it for the petrol cars, but for the electric

1575
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 3: vehicles because they've got three new models of electric vehicles

1576
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: coming out. They've got a brand new logo and basically

1577
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: what it is is like a circle with two js.

1578
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: One jay is hanging from the top of the circle

1579
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: and the other jay is poking up from the bottom

1580
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 3: of the circle. And it's like a woody bronze color.

1581
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: And they describe it as exuberant modernism. And then also

1582
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: that chain. The way that they write the word Jaguar

1583
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: so gone is you know the old way of writing

1584
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 3: with a capital at the front and then everything else

1585
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: being lowercase. Oh no, oh no, no, no, capital J

1586
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: lowercase a capital G, capital U lowercase, a lowercase are.

1587
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Speaker 3: I don't know why it's like Jaguar. Maybe it's like

1588
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: maybe it's trying to tell you where you need to

1589
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: put that emphasis. Jaguar anyway, I don't really know. Powerful

1590
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: celebration of modernism. They say that seamlessly blends upper and

1591
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: lower case characters and visual harmony. Whatever. Anyway, what they're

1592
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: trying to do is they're trying to basically consciously decouple

1593
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: themselves from the fossil fuels. That's what they're doing. So

1594
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 3: they're trying to have this new brand. It's basically a firebreak,

1595
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: as they describe it, new brand, new logo for the

1596
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: ev stuff, all the good for the climate stuff, and

1597
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 3: then the old Growley cat for the bad stuff. We'll

1598
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: see how it goes for them, because I feel like

1599
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: that Growley Cat there's got a lot of love that's

1600
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: got it, that says prestige. That the hanging jay and

1601
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 3: the standing up jay. That's going to take a bit

1602
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: of getting used to.

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Speaker 1: In z Keller do for Cela.

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Speaker 3: Hither the original Jag badge gives the car at least

1631
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: fifty percent of its cool factor. So it's a big

1632
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: no from me, not that I could ever afford one anyway.

1633
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: Simon makes a great point like if you look at

1634
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Speaker 3: the new Jags, I mean, gone are the oldest types

1635
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Speaker 3: and those ones that were very distinctive. You know what

1636
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean. If you look at a modern Jag sedan,

1637
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: like what, it just looks like a Mazda or something.

1638
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: You know, you take the take the take the growley

1639
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: cat off, You're just driving any old Japanese car.

1640
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Speaker 22: He does raise a good point though, where like you know,

1641
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 22: the three of us here in this in this studio,

1642
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 22: Evel said, oh yeah, now it looks rubbish, and I

1643
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 22: know the people make it Jag. You're like, oh, no,

1644
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 22: modern looks suber and it's not our three best customers.

1645
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 22: Oh they're not going to buy a Jag now this

1646
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 22: is a problem.

1647
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: Well, you make a very good point. Well, we'll see

1648
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: how the old blokes who like to wear the little

1649
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 3: tartan caps and driving gloves feel about the old upside

1650
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: down Jay and the standing up James a capital jet.

1651
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 3: I bet yeah, and I bet they just love the

1652
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: middle of the words suddenly being capitalized like Trump had

1653
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: a a spaz. Anyway, seventeen past six onto more serious things.

1654
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: We've got another face off between the retail banks and

1655
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank. A senior Reserve Bank official has accused

1656
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: the banks of not investing enough in innovation, but the

1657
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: banks have pushed back and said, well, we would if

1658
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 3: we weren't so bogged down in regulation. Janetib Trainey is

1659
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Speaker 3: The Herald's Wellington Business editor and with us Hey today, Hey, Heather,

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Speaker 3: what kind of innovation are we talking about here?

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Speaker 28: Well, I think the thing that the Reserve Bank and

1662
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 28: the Commerics Commission want banks to forge your head with

1663
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 28: much more quickly. And the Minister actually commentson consumer Affairs,

1664
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 28: Minister Andrew Bailey. They want the banks to get on

1665
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 28: with open banking, so that means allowing financial technology firms

1666
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 28: to offer banking services, enabling them to plug into banks

1667
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 28: infrastructure so that they can leverage off the our customer data.

1668
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 28: If I, you know, if I approve I can let

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Speaker 28: a financial technology firm leverage off the bank which has

1670
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 28: all my information about harm, spending money and so on,

1671
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 28: and allow innovation that way. This is something that's happening

1672
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 28: in other parts of the world, the UK, Australia, to

1673
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 28: varying degrees. This is meant to be something that can

1674
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 28: help you create innovation and that can help for competition

1675
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 28: the pushes there. But banks for some years have been

1676
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 28: dragging their feet for a number of reasons, some of

1677
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 28: which might be quite compelling, in some of which might be,

1678
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 28: you know, due to them trying to protect themselves and

1679
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Speaker 28: potentially prevent competitors coming in.

1680
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was. It was the Westpac boss Catherine

1681
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 3: McGrath who was before the parliamentary inquiry today who said no, no, no,

1682
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 3: it's the regulation that's the problem. Did she say what

1683
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: regulation was problematic?

1684
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1685
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 11: No. Look, actually i was at a Payments in New

1686
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Speaker 11: Zealand conference.

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 28: I've been there for two days where I've been with

1688
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 28: bankers and financial technology people and regulators and they've all

1689
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 28: been trying to nut out.

1690
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Speaker 11: You know, there's a bit of tension there between all

1691
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Speaker 11: of them, but there's also quite a bit of opportunity.

1692
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 28: Katherine McGrath said it was actually the combination of regulation

1693
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 28: that was bogging banks down and preventing them tying up

1694
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Speaker 28: the resources and preventing them from investing in the cool

1695
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 28: stuff basically, and she said, she said, we just wanted

1696
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Speaker 28: a bit of freedom to get on with it now,

1697
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Speaker 28: though that comment wasn't necessarily received that well by the

1698
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Speaker 28: other people at the conference, some of them are these

1699
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Speaker 28: financial technology firms trying to do cool things. Actually, interestingly,

1700
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 28: it was quite good. We heard from someone from Australia,

1701
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 28: a financial technology guy who founded up Bank, which is

1702
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 28: this innovative bank Australia, which partnered with Bendigo, which is

1703
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 28: one of the traditional banks, and to provide banking services

1704
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 28: that are targeted at young people. And apparently this thing

1705
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 28: is just taken off. And the person from up Bank

1706
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 28: was saying, this is the sort of thing we should

1707
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 28: get going in New Zealand where you have FinTechs working

1708
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 28: alongside banks.

1709
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 11: If they can't do it by themselves, get on board

1710
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 11: with banks.

1711
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 28: But banks need to open up and you know that

1712
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 28: can allow for a bit of innovation and the types

1713
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 28: of products and services that we don't receive here in

1714
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 28: New Zealand. Now for some of you know, for some

1715
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 28: of us, we're like well, what do we need sort

1716
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 28: of you know, banks, banks are fine, but it sounds

1717
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 28: like there's a lot happening around the world that we're

1718
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 28: not benefiting from here.

1719
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: So quite quite a good debate there, all right, Thank

1720
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: you Jay, and also thanks for putting it right. It

1721
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 3: wasn't that the inquiry. It was at the conference that

1722
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: she said Jane tib Trainey the Heralds Wellington Business Centers.

1723
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 3: I assumes it was at the inquiry because she was

1724
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: at the inquiry today and I need to answer this

1725
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: as Catherine McGrath. I need to get your cross that,

1726
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: so we'll get it done before this hour is out.

1727
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Speaker 3: You can hear what you had to say about the

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Speaker 3: climate focus that the banks are forcing on our dairy farmers.

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Speaker 3: So you'll get you to that. Heather A jag is

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Speaker 3: basically just to fondeo upspect. Thank you for that. Martin

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Speaker 3: six to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Heather duper Cur and my HR

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Speaker 2: the HR Solution for Busy SMS on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Hey get a load of this because these numbers are

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Speaker 3: quite extraordinary. Our prescriptions for ADHD ADHD medication jump tenfold

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Speaker 3: in the last twenty years and in the last two

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Speaker 3: years one hundred and forty percent rise in demand for

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Speaker 3: the medications. So we'll talk about whether this is all

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Speaker 3: in our heads or actually a real thing. The ADHD

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Speaker 3: with Brian Betty of the Royal New Zealand College of

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Speaker 3: GPS in about fifteen minutes six twenty four. At the moment,

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Speaker 3: now a robotic assisted surgery is on the rise around

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Speaker 3: the world. We've talked about before about the soft tissue

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Speaker 3: robots and so on. It's another type of surgery that

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Speaker 3: is benefiting from the use of robotics is now orthopedic surgery.

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Speaker 3: So you want to think about you hip replacements here

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Speaker 3: and Debora Landby from Milfed Asset Management is with us. Now,

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Speaker 3: hy Deborah, Hi, how are you well? Thank you? So

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Speaker 3: why are orthopedic robots becoming increasingly important in healthcare?

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Speaker 15: So orthopedic robots are particularly useful and joint replacements and

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Speaker 15: these are on the rise due to aging populations that

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Speaker 15: we're seeing around the world. And so in fact, the

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Speaker 15: number of total new replacement surgeries globally is expected to

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Speaker 15: grow significantly by around six percent per year over the

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Speaker 15: next decade. And because of this, innovations that make surgeons

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Speaker 15: more efficient and also improve patient outcomes are becoming increasingly important.

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Speaker 3: And who are the main players here?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 15: Orthopedic robots have been around since the early two thousands

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Speaker 15: and Striker is the first company to bring its robotic system,

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Speaker 15: which is called Maco, to market, followed by zim and

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Speaker 15: Biomet a number of years later in twenty nineteen with

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Speaker 15: their robot which is called Rosa. And while there are

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Speaker 15: some differences between their robots, broadly, before surgery, they work

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Speaker 15: as tools to assist surgeons with preoperative plan by creating

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Speaker 15: detailed three dimensional images of the patient's anatomy, and during

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Speaker 15: surgery they assist with precision by providing real time feedback

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Speaker 15: and using senses to guide the ursions instruments. And they

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Speaker 15: also assist with precise placement of implants, which is really important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this seems like pretty obvious benefits. Are

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Speaker 3: there other benefits as well of using it?

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Speaker 15: Also, studies have actually shown that robotic assisted all the

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Speaker 15: pedic surgeries often lead to improve patient outcomes, and so

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Speaker 15: that includes better alignment of the implants. So, for example,

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Speaker 15: the artificial knee joint is aligned better with the bones

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Speaker 15: on each side of the artificial joint. Interestingly reduced post

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Speaker 15: operative pain for patients because cuts can be smaller and

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Speaker 15: more precise, and then also patients actually recover faster from them,

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Speaker 15: so kind of in summary, they make sure that the

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Speaker 15: implants are positioned with maximum accuracy, which leads to better

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Speaker 15: patient recovery, better long lasting results, and pure complications for patients.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating how commonly these used around the world, And do

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Speaker 3: we also have the mayor in New Zealand?

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Speaker 15: Yes, so GLOBALLYS and Maco robots have assisted in well

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Speaker 15: over a million joint replacement surgeries combined, which sounds like

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Speaker 15: a really big number, but if you look at the

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Speaker 15: total proportion of knee and hip replacements that are done

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Speaker 15: using robotics, that's actually still quite low, so around seven

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Speaker 15: percent for hips and fifteen percent for these done with

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Speaker 15: robotic assistance. But that is forcus to increase rapidly, So

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Speaker 15: by twenty thirty it's expected that around twenty percent of

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Speaker 15: knee replacements globally will be robotic assisted and almost thirty

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Speaker 15: percent of hip replacements, so significant growth opportunity ahead. And

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Speaker 15: while having a robot assist in your orthopedic surgery does

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Speaker 15: sound very futuristic. We absolutely do already have them here

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Speaker 15: in New Zealand. So in twenty seventeen the first robotic

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Speaker 15: assisted knee replacement surgery was done in north Shore Hospital

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Speaker 15: so here in Auckland with Strikers Maco Robot And since

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Speaker 15: then we've seen robots placed and actually a number of

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Speaker 15: different hospitals across the country and.

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Speaker 3: That's fascinating stuff. So how the shares of these companies

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Speaker 3: performing then, and so this.

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Speaker 15: Is interesting because there's quite marked divergence. So Shares and

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Speaker 15: Striker this year, for example, have done really well, so

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Speaker 15: they've generated thirty percent return for investors, whereas Shares and

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Speaker 15: Zimmer are actually down around ten percent this year on

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Speaker 15: the back of issues with production, delayed shipments and market

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Speaker 15: share loss to strike It. And then if you zoom

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Speaker 15: out over the past decade, Striker has outperformed the S

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Speaker 15: and P five hundred and generated a return of around

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Speaker 15: sixteen percent, so ahead of the S and P five

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Speaker 15: hundreds return of around twelve where as Zimmer on the

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Speaker 15: other hand, has been a massive underperformer. It's gone through

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Speaker 15: a period of mismanagement, it's struggled to compete with Striker

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Speaker 15: for market share, and if you look back to twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 15: basically zimmer shares, if you'd owned them from then till now,

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Speaker 15: have generated no return for investors. So even though it's

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Speaker 15: a company in a really interesting space, that hasn't actually

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Speaker 15: translated to attractive shareholders' returns. So it just shows how

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Speaker 15: important it is for investors to be really discerning with

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Speaker 15: their investments.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, isn't it, Deborah, Thanks very much, really appreciated. That's

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Speaker 3: Deborah Lamby Milfedaset Management, Cheeseys. People are clear than the

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Speaker 3: things that they do here that yes, ADHD is in

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Speaker 3: our heads. That's the whole point. Late diagnosed last year

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Speaker 3: at fifty three, along with my younger brother and my

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Speaker 3: younger son, at is a very real thing, has had

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Speaker 3: visible impacts through my entire life, never knowing why. Paul, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Brian Betty about that next,

1831
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: because he might he might have an interesting take which

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Speaker 3: is different to yours. Headline's next beyond making.

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Speaker 2: On breaking, crunching the numbers and getting the results, it's

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Speaker 2: headed duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to my

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Speaker 2: HR the HR solution for busy Smy's on news Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Gaddy Bray is going to.

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Speaker 3: Be with us shortly. Looks like a Ukraine will not

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Speaker 3: only be allowed to fire the US made missiles into Russia,

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01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 3: but possibly also you ca made missiles that might be

1840
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Speaker 3: coming shortly. So Gavin will run us across that, and

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna explain to you what's going on

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 3: what happened today at the Westpac appearance at the banking inquiry,

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Speaker 3: just really quickly. So Ginny Anderson this morning on politics,

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Speaker 3: Monday was a Wednesday. What the hell politics were a

1845
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: different day of the week altogether. Politics Wednesday was yeah,

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Speaker 3: interesting on a number of levels. I got just unsolicited

1847
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 3: texts on it, which is usually a sign that somebody's

1848
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: been a little unhinged. And I wouldn't go quite as

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Speaker 3: far as Jenny being unhinged this time, but Ginny, definitely,

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Speaker 3: Ginny needs to be told some facts about politics. So

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Speaker 3: what she did today, which I thought was really interesting,

1852
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Speaker 3: is she had a real crack at Chris Luxen for

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Speaker 3: taking the Treaty Principal's bill into the House and then

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Speaker 3: and then you know, wanting to kill it. And this

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Speaker 3: is what she said. She said, Chris Luxeon is quote

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Speaker 3: disrespecting our parliament protest by putting a bill to Select

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Speaker 3: Committee that he has no intention of voting for it

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Speaker 3: the second reading. Right, so very bad, like does respect

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Speaker 3: the parliamentary process to take something into Parliament and then

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Speaker 3: kill it off. Hello, Ginny, just a little reminder of

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Speaker 3: what your party did twenty years ago. In two thousand

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Speaker 3: and five, Labor did exactly the same thing. They were

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Speaker 3: in a coalition with New Zealand First, and New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First wanted to do a very similar thing with the principles.

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Speaker 3: It was called the Principles of the Treaty of White

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Speaker 3: Tonguey Deletion Bill, and so New Zealand First wanted to

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Speaker 3: do this, Labor agreed, Labour promised to take it to

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Speaker 3: Select Committee and then they killed it at the second reading.

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Speaker 3: So it's a bit of wild hypocrisy there. If it

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Speaker 3: was disrespecting by Chris Luxen, it was disrespecting by the

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Speaker 3: Queen Helen Clark back in the day as well. Twenty

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Speaker 3: one away from seven Heather Duplicy Ellen all right to ADHD,

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Speaker 3: so are there concerns that we might be over diagnosing

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Speaker 3: this thing prescriptions for the medication and have jumped tenfold

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Speaker 3: since two thousand and six, and in just the last

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Speaker 3: two years, FARMACS reported one hundred and forty percent rise

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Speaker 3: in demand for these medications. Brian Betty is the chair

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Speaker 3: of General Practice New Zealand with US now have Brian

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Speaker 3: oh hi hever. So we've got this guy who's an

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Speaker 3: addiction psychiatrist, doctor Sam McBride, who reckons we are overdiagnosing

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Speaker 3: and overprescribing medication. What do you think?

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Speaker 29: Look, I mean, I think this is a very difficult area.

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Speaker 29: ADHD is a complex diagnosis, It's got a lot of

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Speaker 29: criteria with it, and there are a number of other

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Speaker 29: conditions that can mimic ADHD, very very serious. So there's

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Speaker 29: one line of thought that are we moving into over

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Speaker 29: diagnosis of ADHD. There's another line of thought that's saying, well,

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Speaker 29: actually we're underdiagnosing ADHD and this is reflective of the

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Speaker 29: true numbers in society. So yeah, look, I think it's

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Speaker 29: very relevant what Sam McBride is brought up, and I

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Speaker 29: think it's something we do need to talk about.

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Speaker 3: How would we know if we're overdiagnosing?

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Speaker 29: Well, look, what one of the things that has emerged

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Speaker 29: is it's thought that about five percent of children or

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01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 29: adolescents potentially have underlying ADHD and that has severe impacts

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Speaker 29: on learning, on schooling, on behavior, on interactions with the law,

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Speaker 29: a whole lot of things, so very very serious and

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Speaker 29: short diagnosis. What's emerged in the US is now it's

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Speaker 29: estimated ten percent of children there are being prescribed ADHD medications.

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Speaker 29: So the question becomes, is the research which says five

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Speaker 29: percent of possibly got ADHD yet ten percent of prescribed

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Speaker 29: is there over diagnosis as we've become more aware of

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Speaker 29: ADHD and maybe maybe simplified the diagnosis itself, and it's

1904
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Speaker 29: been prescribed more often than it should be. So this

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 29: is where this has emerged from what is it?

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Speaker 3: What is it that we could be confusing for ADHD?

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Speaker 29: Look, ADHD is very complex. There's a list of diagnostic criteria.

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Speaker 29: It's really really important to get proper diet assessment, proper

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01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 29: diagnosis because the treatment can be life changing and it's

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Speaker 29: really really important to understand that. However, it can make

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Speaker 29: a whole lot of other things, learning, disability, environmental issues,

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Speaker 29: things like anxiety, depression. There's a number of different what

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Speaker 29: we call differential diagnosis that comes into play, and it

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Speaker 29: is so so important that there is a proper assessment

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Speaker 29: that is done to make sure it is ADHD and

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Speaker 29: not one of these other conditions which need to be

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Speaker 29: approached in a different way. So it's complex, but access

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Speaker 29: to diagnosis is really.

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Speaker 6: The key to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is the problem, right, is that actually

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Speaker 3: the access to diagnosis is really tough at the moment

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Speaker 3: because it's very it's a long wait. So Brian, get

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01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: a load of this. Okay. I know a guy who

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01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 3: reckons that he's got ADHD, but he's fine, and he's talking.

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Speaker 3: He's talked to some clinical experts who said, oh, look

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Speaker 3: you have you have potential for this to be the thing,

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: but he can't get in for proper diagnosis. So he's

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Speaker 3: sourcing risalin from his friends. What do you think.

1929
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 29: Yeah, so look at that diversion as we call it,

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Speaker 29: is actually a real concern in that situation. And look

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Speaker 29: that the access to diagnosis or proper diagnosis has become

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Speaker 29: a real issue in New Zealand. That it is very,

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Speaker 29: very difficult to often access psychiatric an opinion through the

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Speaker 29: public system because of the constraints that are there. To

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Speaker 29: get a diagnosis in the private system costs, you know,

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Speaker 29: one to two thousand dollars in terms of a private,

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Speaker 29: private visits and assessment. So this is a very very

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Speaker 29: real problem and it's one that we need to solve

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Speaker 29: I think through better resourcing and training of professionals in

1940
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Speaker 29: the diagnose of ADHD and better access to it. Otherwise

1941
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Speaker 29: we're going to see more of these type of issues arise,

1942
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Speaker 29: and I think that's really really problematic and difficult.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, Hey, thanks very much, appreciate it. Brian Busy,

1944
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Speaker 3: Chair of General Practice, New Zealand. Hey, you apparently I

1945
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: was kind of surprised to see this today. Apparently Democratic

1946
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 3: voters still love Karmala Harris so much they want her

1947
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Speaker 3: to run for president next time around again. So new

1948
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 3: poll has just come out. It's by m Actually I

1949
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Speaker 3: don't really know the company. She lo On Insights or

1950
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 3: something like some blah blah insights whatever. Anyway, never heard

1951
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Speaker 3: of it before. But regardless, what they did was they

1952
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 3: talked to a bunch of Democratic voters and she got

1953
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Speaker 3: forty one percent in terms of we'd like you to

1954
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Speaker 3: run in four years time. She got forty one percent,

1955
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Speaker 3: miles ahead of the rest of them. Gavin Newsom was

1956
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Speaker 3: on eight percent, Josh Shapiro was in seven percent and

1957
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 3: Pete buta Jedge was on six percent. Now, what I

1958
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Speaker 3: suspect is going on here is that that's just name recognition,

1959
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Speaker 3: which is very very strong. Right, The name recognition is

1960
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Speaker 3: one of the biggest things you can have in politics,

1961
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Speaker 3: and that I think is the bill all and end

1962
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Speaker 3: all explanation of that, because anyone with half a brain

1963
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Speaker 3: can see that at least part of the reason that

1964
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Speaker 3: she lost the election is because she is a terrible candidate,

1965
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Speaker 3: and so why would you run a terrible candidate twice

1966
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Speaker 3: in a row. But anyway, there you go. She's still

1967
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Speaker 3: got the support of the party. By the looks of things,

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Speaker 3: they ain't blaming her for it. Sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1970
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Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with Hither duper c Allen and

1971
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Speaker 2: my HR.

1972
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Speaker 1: The HR solution for busy SMEs u Storg Zippy.

1973
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Speaker 3: Gevin Gay is gray, as our UK correspondent is with us.

1974
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Speaker 3: Now even in Gavin Hi there, Gevin explain something to me, right,

1975
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Speaker 3: So the PM is indicated that the UK may be

1976
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Speaker 3: prepared to allow its missiles to be fired from Ukraine

1977
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Speaker 3: into Russia. Why has it taken so long.

1978
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Speaker 30: Well, and we don't know that that is the kiss,

1979
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 30: is what he's sort of implying by what he's saying

1980
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Speaker 30: that we think he's likely to give the go ahead.

1981
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 30: Of course they've been waiting all this time, letting America

1982
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 30: take the lead. But whether Britain will allow its storm

1983
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 30: Shadow missiles to be fired into Russia as the Americans

1984
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 30: have allowed attackers to be fired now appears much more likely.

1985
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 30: He was asked secure star of the Prime Minister at

1986
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 30: the G twenty summit in Brazil, you know what his

1987
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 30: thoughts are on that, and he said, well, I'm not

1988
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 30: going to go into operation or details. He wouldn't expect

1989
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Speaker 30: me to. The only winner would be putin the simplest

1990
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Speaker 30: way to end this conflict is for Russia to stop

1991
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Speaker 30: the aggression, and then added, we will give them everything

1992
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Speaker 30: they need. And people are now saying, well, that's a

1993
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 30: clear indication that they are going to be given the

1994
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Speaker 30: storm Shadow permission to send these missiles in. But yeah,

1995
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Speaker 30: it has taken a long time. Many people think he

1996
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 30: should have acted sooner, and certainly from those on the ground,

1997
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Speaker 30: it would appear that Ukraine is losing territory and losing.

1998
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Speaker 3: It fast, So there must have been a reason. I

1999
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 3: mean these two the UK and the US is obviously

2000
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Speaker 3: withheld permission for a reason, and the maybe the fear

2001
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Speaker 3: of how Russia can retaliate. But what could Russia feasibly do.

2002
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Speaker 10: Well?

2003
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Speaker 30: I mean, obviously they've already suggested that the nuclear option

2004
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 30: is there. Many people are saying, you know, everyone looks

2005
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 30: at Vladimir Putin as quite a sort of a leader

2006
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 30: with reason, but he's extremely am on, many of the

2007
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 30: experts say, near him, and that could lead to a

2008
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 30: decision that he suddenly makes that is perhaps one you

2009
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 30: might be expecting. So although that nuclear option may seem

2010
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 30: a long long way off, and boy do we all

2011
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 30: hope it is that I fear, yeah, there could be that.

2012
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 30: We are already seeing, though, aren't we, quite a lot

2013
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 30: of sabotaging or attempts of sabotaging and spying from Russia

2014
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 30: in other parts of the world. And it is a

2015
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 30: great concern I think, among particularly those who are supplying

2016
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 30: the missiles, that he could act in a way that

2017
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 30: quite thinking, frankly, they thought would never happen.

2018
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Speaker 3: Kevin, look, I know it's Liam Payne's funeral today. Are

2019
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 3: we expecting this to be something public or something quite private.

2020
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 30: No, they are really the family really trying to keep

2021
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 30: it small, so they're desperate that fans don't find out

2022
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Speaker 30: where it is. That said, we are being told that

2023
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 30: his One Direction bandmates Harry Styles, Nile Horn, Zane Mallick

2024
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 30: and Louis Tomlinson will be there. The locations all sort

2025
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 30: of they're trying to keep its secret. He was from

2026
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 30: the Midlands, Wolverhampton in the UK. We believe the funeral

2027
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Speaker 30: will be held somewhere near London in the Home Counties,

2028
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Speaker 30: but that is all being quiet as well, and awake

2029
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 30: will take place following the service. But yeah, they just

2030
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 30: don't want so many fans to inundate the whole thing

2031
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 30: and make it a bit of a sort of circus.

2032
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Speaker 30: I think the family have always been very private, they

2033
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 30: were always very close and obviously they're having to come

2034
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 30: to terms of this themselves. But it does look like

2035
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 30: that Liam's father, Jeff, who traveled to South America to

2036
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 30: help the authorities there identify his son and then bring

2037
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 30: the body back to the UK, is determined to try

2038
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,719
Speaker 30: and keep this a private family matter.

2039
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of understand why Gvin thanks has always appreciated,

2040
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Devin Gray, our UK correspondent. Right, So back here the

2041
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 3: banking inquiry was happening today, right, and Kes McGrath, CEO

2042
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 3: of Westpac New Zealand, who actually is I think the

2043
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 3: boss of the of the four banks, the boss you'll

2044
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 3: lease really doesn't love going on the media. By the

2045
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 3: looks of things, you hardly ever hear from her. She

2046
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:06,799
Speaker 3: appeared and the jealous MP's asked her the question again.

2047
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 15: And so how many staff and whispact about that earns

2048
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 15: a nanny salary over one willing?

2049
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 31: So we have four staff including me that earn over

2050
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 31: a million.

2051
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 4: Dollars full staff.

2052
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 15: And what do you earn?

2053
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 31: So I earn two million dollars, So that's one million

2054
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 31: in a fixed salary and then three hundred and forty

2055
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 31: thousand in cash bonus and the rest is in a

2056
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 31: deferred bonus.

2057
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 3: Lord anyway, So then this is the bit that I

2058
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 3: actually care about. Why does Westpac set climate targets for

2059
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 3: New Zealand dairy farmers that are tougher than the climate

2060
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 3: targets they set for the Aussie dairy farmers.

2061
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 31: It's the primary reason for us is that eighty percent

2062
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 31: of the markets that we go to either have or

2063
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 31: will have an emissions target regime, and so therefore us

2064
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 31: helping to make sure that our great New Zealand farmers

2065
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 31: continue to be as relevant and have as great a

2066
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 31: product as they can.

2067
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 4: Is really important.

2068
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 3: Whatever they can do it themselves, if they care about it.

2069
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 3: Thank goodness for the far allowing two people acts.

2070
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 14: Mark Cameron picuarly behaving like a car sheld in that regard,

2071
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 14: I mean, rucios.

2072
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 10: We've got an ets a functional ets.

2073
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 3: Good from you, Mark, and also good from you from

2074
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: the Green Party, whatever your name is.

2075
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 32: You invest around nine billion dollars in fossil hull industries,

2076
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 32: accountable for about three billion tons of new fossil hill

2077
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 32: extraction in your Australian business.

2078
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 6: So is there not.

2079
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 7: Sort of a.

2080
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 32: Pant a bitter word, a kind of a dishonesty in

2081
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 32: your argument that you actually had committed to climate action

2082
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 32: when you're actively funding the most polluting industries that we

2083
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 32: have here in this planet.

2084
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: Quite the word he was looking for was hypocrisy, because

2085
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 3: apparently it's fine for Westpac to make money off climate

2086
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 3: emissions through their investments, but it's not okay for the

2087
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: dairy farmers to make money off the climate emissions, is it?

2088
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2089
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 3: Well, I hope that the banking doesn't drop this particular subject.

2090
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: But this, I think is because this is this, I think,

2091
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, English, This I think is the important

2092
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: thing and I'm looking forward to keeping an eye on it.

2093
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Seven away from seven, getting ready for.

2094
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,839
Speaker 1: A new administration in the US. What will be the impact.

2095
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: It's the Business Hour with Hither duplicy Ellen and my HR,

2096
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: the HR solution for busy SMEs, news talks, ad B.

2097
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 3: Heither. This is very the ADHD Hither. I'm booked privately,

2098
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 3: have been waiting for almost twelve months for disappointment. I

2099
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 3: get emotional thinking about it. Thank you for running that segment.

2100
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 3: You're more than welcome. I think a lot of people

2101
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 3: are wanting to know at the moment. It's kind of

2102
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 3: one of those things where it's quite like front of mind.

2103
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 3: It's the topic dujure when it comes to sort of

2104
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 3: like mental health and what's going on in your brain

2105
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 3: and stuff. A lot of people want to know if

2106
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 3: they're ADHD, and frankly deserve to be diagnosed if they

2107
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 3: can just get a spot. It's very tight out there

2108
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: at the moment. Statement from Auckland Transport. I shall read

2109
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 3: it to you. Did they say they didn't want to

2110
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 3: come on the show. No, nobody was a very We

2111
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 3: don't want to see auckland as getting fined, so they

2112
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 3: should only park on their own property. Jerks, aren't they

2113
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 3: We don't want to see you getting fined, so don't

2114
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 3: park in your driveway. They should only park on their

2115
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 3: own property or where on street parking is allowed, or

2116
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 3: on the berm. Remember you can park on the berm

2117
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: and not get fined. Just that's not in the statement.

2118
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: The rules for parking around driveways are the same across

2119
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: the country brackets, but nobody else is enforcing them and

2120
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: they have been in place for decades. Aucklanders expect us

2121
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 3: to ensure they have safe access to their driveways and homes.

2122
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: This is the best bit.

2123
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to that. This is something

2124
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,959
Speaker 3: we receive dozens of calls on daily and we're continuing

2125
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 3: to let Aucklanders know what to do to avoid getting

2126
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 3: a fine. Thanks so much. Aucklanders expect us to ensure

2127
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 3: they have safe access to their driveways and homes. That's right, Yeah,

2128
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 3: that's right. You need to find me so that I

2129
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: leave and then have safe access to my own driveway.

2130
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 3: Listen to yourself, what are you doing? You don't need

2131
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,839
Speaker 3: to find me, So I have access to my driveway.

2132
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 3: Auckland Transport take the defund Auckland Transport, go.

2133
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 22: And where is My Mind? By the Pixis to play

2134
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 22: us out to night. Now, these guys were here not

2135
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 22: that long ago America. I think it was a couple

2136
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 22: of weeks ago. They were here for Pearl jack Yeah,

2137
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 22: playing support for Pearl Jams. So they said, we have

2138
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 22: liked that so much that they've already announced when they're

2139
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 22: coming back. They're coming back in November next year. Slightly

2140
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 22: small avenues this time because it's just them. So they

2141
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 22: will be playing at the Auckland Town Hall and at

2142
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 22: the St James Theatre in Wellington November and November next year.

2143
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 22: The tickets will go on sale on Friday, November the

2144
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 22: twenty second this year, so you've got a whole year

2145
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 22: to hype up for the next game. It's good and

2146
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 22: we dedicate the Pixie that's Friday. Yeah, all right, you

2147
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 22: get your back together, it's going to get the ticket.

2148
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 3: We dedicate the pixis Where is My Mind to Auckland

2149
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Transport see you tomorrow.

2150
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Speaker 16: Mm hmmmm.

2151
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Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to

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Speaker 2: News Talks A B from four pm weekdays, or follow

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Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio