WEBVTT - Trusting Your Truth with Cassandra Grodd

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<v Speaker 1>With the Heads Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, welcome back to another episode of Slow It Down.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your host, PJ Harding, and I am loving

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<v Speaker 2>hearing your feedback on all of the episodes that we've

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<v Speaker 2>released so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be shy to get in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know what's resonating, what's not resonating, what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear more of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I am on a journey.

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<v Speaker 2>To work out how people find peace and the chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about getting rid of the chaos, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>about working out what rituals and practices people do to

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<v Speaker 2>stay sane in this crazy world, and it is certainly

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<v Speaker 2>extra crazy at the moment. This week, I am joined

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<v Speaker 2>by an incredible woman who's all but I first came

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<v Speaker 2>into contact with I can't remember if it was the

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<v Speaker 2>end of last year or the beginning of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I saw her, I thought, she is captivating.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a real enthusiasm for life, an infectious energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And she knows what she wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, that's what we need on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>this week, a bit of uplifting talk.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the brain of Cassandra Grodd. She is an author, podcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>and content creator, and in this episode we talk about confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Has she always been as confident as she appears online?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is no, and the process that she's gone

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<v Speaker 2>on is really interesting and that journey that she has

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<v Speaker 2>taken to feel really comfortable in her own skin, So

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<v Speaker 2>we dive into that in so much more. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you get a lot out of this chat, like I

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<v Speaker 2>did my conversation with Cassandra Grod. I do just want

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<v Speaker 2>to do a trigger warning before we get into the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>as there is content that is sensitive in nature as

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<v Speaker 2>we discuss topics such as eating disorders. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>encourage you to take a break during the episode if

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<v Speaker 2>it all becomes too much, or make an informed decision

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<v Speaker 2>that this content isn't right for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okays, welcome to slow it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much and honored to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I first came across you when we were on a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a conference with Hannah Krera and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like this beautiful weekend session and that's when I first

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<v Speaker 2>got to hear you. And I must say, you have

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<v Speaker 2>very beautiful, infectious energy that you kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want more of. I think you've got such a

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<v Speaker 1>zest for life.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, what a compliment, I would say the exact same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to you, because I know that it's possibly not

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<v Speaker 2>always been like that, and I feel like you have

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<v Speaker 2>been on a real journey of coming to love yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you've got two books out called Bully and Karling,

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<v Speaker 2>and can you run through just quickly the premise of

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<v Speaker 2>those two books and how you ended up freaking writing

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<v Speaker 2>books in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>So. I struggled really intimately with an eating disorder through

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<v Speaker 4>my teenage years. So I had bulimia from I remember

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<v Speaker 4>having balimic tendencies from when I was quite tiny, and

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<v Speaker 4>I dissected all about where that came from and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of therapy, but it was something that I just

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<v Speaker 4>lived with and it was this incredible secret and it

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<v Speaker 4>held hands with anxiety disorder, which I was medicated for

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<v Speaker 4>at one point, body dysmorphia, everything under that category, and

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<v Speaker 4>writing and creativity for me was an outlet and it

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<v Speaker 4>was something that just happened really, really naturally. And at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, I joined social media right when it

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<v Speaker 4>was booming, and I remember when it first came out

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<v Speaker 4>and I was seventeen, and we posted photos of like

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<v Speaker 4>tank and sushi and like how weird friends in high

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<v Speaker 4>school were filtered, and I coincided with the platform that

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<v Speaker 4>is Instagram, and I just naturally was someone who sort

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<v Speaker 4>of gained attention.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I.

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<v Speaker 4>First joined social media, I was in a very very

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<v Speaker 4>dark place in terms of how I saw myself and

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<v Speaker 4>how I perceived myself, and I was presenting myself as

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<v Speaker 4>something I wasn't in a way. And one day I

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<v Speaker 4>shared a piece of writing and I was living in

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<v Speaker 4>the UK at the time, and I remember I went

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<v Speaker 4>to the bathroom and I came back and I had

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<v Speaker 4>fifty d ms PJ Wow, And I was like, shut

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<v Speaker 4>the front door. I'm Kylie Jenner. Everybody can leave.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the most success any human has ever experienced.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was this massive encouragement for me to keep going,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just started sharing writing my platform built. People

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<v Speaker 4>were like, give us a book. And I had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea what the frick I was doing. I just the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing was me and free answers that I hired

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<v Speaker 4>off Fiber and great friends of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>And put the book out Lightning Head Earth, and it

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<v Speaker 3>did exceptionally well.

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<v Speaker 4>It was third on the Amazon best sellers and remained

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<v Speaker 4>up there. It stayed on the charts for quite a

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<v Speaker 4>while and I went on to do my second one.

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<v Speaker 4>So to answer your question, I think writing was the

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<v Speaker 4>a sort of a pinnacle point of an incredible journey

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<v Speaker 4>i'd have I'd had with discovering myself through this eating disorder,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what the books are about, essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you were talking about how like the life

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<v Speaker 2>that you were projecting online differed from how you were feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the process of aligning your true self with

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<v Speaker 2>what you were projecting out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because when.

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<v Speaker 4>I say that it could be taken in a negative context,

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<v Speaker 4>it actually worked really positively for me because it was

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<v Speaker 4>this breath of air where I would post online as

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<v Speaker 4>the super confident girl, and I think somewhere along the

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<v Speaker 4>way my brain started to go, oh, wait, we actually

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<v Speaker 4>can be that person. So it was potentially a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a fake it till you make it, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was also a moment of showing myself what's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Social media gets a really bad, bad stick of it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it actually worked quite harmoniously for me as long

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<v Speaker 4>as I was doing the inner work at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think doing the inner.

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<v Speaker 4>Work working through the trauma, working through the things in

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<v Speaker 4>my childhood, working through the shadow, finding this radical acceptance

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<v Speaker 4>of myself and my body and forgiving myself. That's when

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<v Speaker 4>the presentation and the image and what I actually believed

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<v Speaker 4>to be true lined up.

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<v Speaker 3>And it didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't overnight like it was. I'm about to be

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight, so I've been on this platform posting photos

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<v Speaker 4>of myself for a wee while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so interesting that you actually found it worked

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<v Speaker 2>and your favorite and it was almost like, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>not like a mood board, but you'd be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to curate how you wanted to feel. And as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you were doing that kind of internal work,

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<v Speaker 2>then you really felt like you eventually kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>there And did that take a lot of I don't know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>this is because I know you're a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>gym when it comes to manifestation. Is that when you

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<v Speaker 2>really started getting that into gear as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, well, I'll butcher this.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the exact you know, someone listening out

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<v Speaker 4>there will give me a lot of shit for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I butcher all my quotes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're about to butcher right, I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, right, like I say things on mine and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like right. So there was a study done, I

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<v Speaker 4>believe it was by Harvard, and they measured the strongest

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<v Speaker 4>emotion that can be admitted from the human body. And

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<v Speaker 4>how they measured this, dear God, don't ask me, but

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<v Speaker 4>they did. And the strongest emotion or state of being

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<v Speaker 4>that a human could be in was authenticity.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was on the scale. Authenticity was right up.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it was forgiveness I believe in, then gratitude

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<v Speaker 4>And when we think of that word you through out there,

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<v Speaker 4>that's manifestation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very commercial.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, what manifestation means is that you are as close

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<v Speaker 4>to living your authentic life as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you've got your.

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<v Speaker 4>Ship pointed in your true direction and you're not pretending,

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<v Speaker 4>and it takes going through the layers of where am

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<v Speaker 4>I not being myself right? Where am I performing? Where

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<v Speaker 4>am I pushing? Where am I moving something uphill? Where

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<v Speaker 4>am I people pleasing? Where am I saying yes when

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<v Speaker 4>I should be saying no? And it's manifestation is actually

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<v Speaker 4>just about lifting your self respect. So for something like

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<v Speaker 4>healing and eating disorder, which is quite a disrespectful behavior

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<v Speaker 4>to do to yourself. Naturally, in that process, I found

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<v Speaker 4>my way to manifestation.

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<v Speaker 3>And so manifestation can be really.

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<v Speaker 4>Spiritual and crystals and whatnot, but then it can also

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<v Speaker 4>be really tangible and just like when you treat yourself right,

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<v Speaker 4>the universe treats you right. That's what started to really

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<v Speaker 4>click and change for me, and it changed everything. It

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<v Speaker 4>changed how I look physically. That energy that you talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>that zest for life, that positivity that cut path full.

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<v Speaker 4>It all started with how I was treating myself. And

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<v Speaker 4>if I was going to binge and purge over a

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<v Speaker 4>toilet four days a week, that's not a very great

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<v Speaker 4>way that I can four days week, four times a day. Rather,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a great way that I can tell myself

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<v Speaker 4>and any other aspect of my life that I come first.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Authenticity is like obviously another word that's thrown around

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but it's probably something that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people really really struggle to be truly authentic, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>being in a job that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just aren't quite aligned with.

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<v Speaker 2>A relationship, living where they're not quite you know, content with.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were saying, like going through all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't remember how you exactly worded.

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<v Speaker 3>It, but the way you're pretending.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So would you like, do you have a tangible

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<v Speaker 2>way that people listening right now can kind of do

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<v Speaker 2>a checklist in their brain if they're being authentic, because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it is. It's one of those things that's really

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<v Speaker 2>hard to measure.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say that the first thing you need to

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<v Speaker 4>do is you need to listen to your body. So

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<v Speaker 4>you need to take the space, whether that's five minutes

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning, five minutes at night, whether you're at

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<v Speaker 4>that job that you hate that you don't really need

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<v Speaker 4>cash to give you a checklist because you know you.

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<v Speaker 3>Fricking hate it there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like to put my hands on my womb

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<v Speaker 4>or like lower stomach if you hate that word everyone

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<v Speaker 4>hates sorry wom.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Wom's beautiful. Something quite confronting about the word worm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, yeah, yeah, it's like kind of near moist,

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<v Speaker 4>it is. I'm with you, but you can, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you put your hands on your womb and take a

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<v Speaker 4>deep breath and really notice where your breath is heading,

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<v Speaker 4>how deep it's going in. And I like to ask myself,

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<v Speaker 4>what do I need to know? And also you can

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<v Speaker 4>ask yourself what's true. So when you sit with your

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<v Speaker 4>body and it might tell you nothing, or it might

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<v Speaker 4>tell you everything. It might tell you so many things

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<v Speaker 4>that aren't true, you're a bit confronted.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Start to feel tension towards what won't be right. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think you were talking earlier about this podcast being

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<v Speaker 4>about people who.

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<v Speaker 3>Move very fast.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're moving fast and a big player, and

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<v Speaker 4>we will arm we have loads of things going on

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<v Speaker 4>in our life that five minutes every morning, every evening,

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of your day, where you ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>have I been honest with myself?

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<v Speaker 3>Or am I betraying myself right?

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<v Speaker 4>And that sense of betrayal to the self will come

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<v Speaker 4>through very strongly in your body, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>give you quite a strong compass and my experience of

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<v Speaker 4>what's working and what's not. And beyond that, pay attention

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<v Speaker 4>to how you feel at the end of little things,

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<v Speaker 4>end of a meeting, end of a friend hangout, end

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<v Speaker 4>of a date. Do you leave and you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>high energy? Do you leave and you feel low energy?

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<v Speaker 4>And so getting out of our head and all this

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<v Speaker 4>like mental thinking and YadA YadA, and actually listening to

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<v Speaker 4>our feeling level of what feels good and what works

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<v Speaker 4>for us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my tangible tip.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something that I practiced every single day for authenticity.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, and I because I've I have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of worm from time to time, and like

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<v Speaker 2>you often hear about like the full body yees, like

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<v Speaker 2>getting that full body yees, but that can take a

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<v Speaker 2>while again to really.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in tune with yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it comes down to I supose that regular practice,

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<v Speaker 2>so you you really start to know what the signals

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<v Speaker 2>mean in your body when there is that insane resistance

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<v Speaker 2>right when it's like, nah, this isn't right, because your

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<v Speaker 2>body ultimately knows. It's a very great tip that I

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<v Speaker 2>think we can walk away with today. So thank you course.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about when kes is feeling really blur or

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<v Speaker 2>really yuck and she's in a bit of a rut.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you navigate through that and how do you

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<v Speaker 2>often reset?

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<v Speaker 4>I have two answers for that. The first answer is

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<v Speaker 4>my practices. So I am very very grounded and loyal

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<v Speaker 4>to my practices. And when I start to feel off track,

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<v Speaker 4>I notice that I've slipped from the things that make

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<v Speaker 4>me feel great. So my morning routine is so sacred

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<v Speaker 4>to me. It is meticulous, it is perfected. It is

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm the most annoying person you'd ever mate, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on an empty stomach. People tell me, I saw

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<v Speaker 4>you walking and you were smiling, like you looked insane.

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<v Speaker 3>You were smiling so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because I have this.

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<v Speaker 4>Walking meditation and sometimes I chant, and sometimes I put

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<v Speaker 4>my arms out and I say my affirmation and I

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<v Speaker 4>come back from this walk and I'm blowing and people

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<v Speaker 4>are sort of like, my alarm hasn't gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, So so talk I throw your meticulous routine.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it starts six a m.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have a bone broth with so I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure if anyone knows much about bone broth. It's very

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<v Speaker 4>good for your collagen, YadA.

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<v Speaker 3>YadA on drop and then I will have some supplements.

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<v Speaker 4>So I take my Eve Wellness, blood, sugar Babe, and

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<v Speaker 4>vitamin C and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I go for my walk. My walk is forty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Minutes, and I listen to a walking meditation of myself

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<v Speaker 4>or of doctor Joe Despenser.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's the man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to us audiover the other day, although

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to drive long distances, and I must

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<v Speaker 2>say it was not the best thing to stay awake.

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<v Speaker 1>In the car, but some of his serving voice knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think meditation that I do it's unreal amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that everyone needs to do it. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>you go through who you used to be, who you.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to be, and you actually like I like walking

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<v Speaker 4>through my meditation because I literally walk into the person

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to become.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back. If it's a really good day, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to the gymeral plates.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not that type of day, I'm sitting and

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<v Speaker 4>doing twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Minutes of breath work. I do Awaken breathwork. You have

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<v Speaker 3>incredible shout out Awaken, look as Mac hewe awesome guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll journal anything that comes up. Then I'm having my breakfast,

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<v Speaker 4>which is high protein the rest of my supplements. I'm showering,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I go and I have my coffee after

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<v Speaker 4>I've eaten an hour and a half after I wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's super important changed my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait, wait, you have the coffee an hour after you'veden.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, sorry, an hour after I've waken up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Food and tummy high proteins, and then I'll go and

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<v Speaker 4>I like to sit with my coffee and make it

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<v Speaker 4>a moment and really enjoy it and be slow with it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's my slow little moment, and I go through

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<v Speaker 4>my day and my to do list, and that's how

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<v Speaker 4>I start my morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have a toddler, so I can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>other parents out there right now, are like the sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like a dream routine, And yes, I can maybe doing

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<v Speaker 2>about of kids. So like, look, everyone has to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of work around the time that they've got. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love the dedication that you've got and you just know

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<v Speaker 2>that for you and when you don't do that, then

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<v Speaker 2>you start feeling out of alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, my whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing with it is is that that's my life changed

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<v Speaker 4>when I got a morning routine, because that's how I

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<v Speaker 4>tell the universe that I come first. So before I

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<v Speaker 4>go to that big meeting or before I'm doing things

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<v Speaker 4>for everyone else, I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Something for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I swear when I started admitting that into the world,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole world started to go, oh, okay, you come first.

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<v Speaker 3>You're prioritizing yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm sure everyone can't do the cast Rod two

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<v Speaker 4>hours all the morning routine, because sometimes Cas Grod can't

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<v Speaker 4>do that. Even if it's like the five minute chicken

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<v Speaker 4>with your body, have it stacked, do that in the shower.

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<v Speaker 4>You can take a couple of supplements for yourself. You

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<v Speaker 4>can have a nourishing breakfast whilst you're making your families.

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<v Speaker 4>Incorporate it in a way that works for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Do you even feel self doubt or

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<v Speaker 1>and secure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent so you of course yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Taught me through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Taught me through what happens when you when you feel

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, well, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally comes for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you relate to this after I've put

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<v Speaker 4>something out so I don't really doubt myself free launching it.

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<v Speaker 4>I have this very bizarre confidence that I get from

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<v Speaker 4>my dad, who's super German. He thinks everything he does

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<v Speaker 4>is great, and like, I'm just like this is awesome, Like, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>look at this photo.

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<v Speaker 3>I look amazing. Wow. And then I put it out

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<v Speaker 3>there and I'm like I hate everything about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or I sometimes will just have imposter syndrome, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there's people who are more qualified or

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<v Speaker 4>more you know, gorgeous or skinnier or funnier or better

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<v Speaker 4>or smarter or whatever it is. Your little brain comes

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<v Speaker 4>in and I just tell my brain that for me,

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<v Speaker 4>that voice, you're allowed to sit in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not allowed to drive.

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<v Speaker 4>I can hear you, and you're in the passenger seat,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're never going to go away because you're a

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<v Speaker 4>part of me, and my role here is to love

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<v Speaker 4>every part of me. I'm not going to throw you

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<v Speaker 4>out of the car, but I'm going to be like,

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<v Speaker 4>I get your.

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<v Speaker 3>Opinion, I'm going to show you the other option.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think hearing it and acting on it is

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<v Speaker 4>two different things. And I'm grateful that now I'm at

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<v Speaker 4>the place where my big girl pants drive the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course that voice is there sometimes, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I think just letting yourself have a really bad day

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<v Speaker 4>is also really important. You know, eat some yummy food,

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<v Speaker 4>sit in your bed, cancel some plans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you're a.

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<v Speaker 2>Human and knowing it's a bad day, not a bad life,

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<v Speaker 2>but just it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so I always say to myself, like, you

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<v Speaker 4>can take today or tonight, but then tomorrow you wake

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<v Speaker 4>up and you move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So you kind of allow you kind of give yourself

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<v Speaker 2>that permission to just dump to emotion, dump right absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and have your things that you enjoy, like I

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<v Speaker 4>love reality TV shows and I love you know, pizza

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever, you just need to nourish. The soul sometimes important.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think to all this stuff we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>in wellness, I think it's important to see it as

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<v Speaker 4>a lifestyle and not as some eight week course or

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<v Speaker 4>one week push or summer's come and glow up thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you're in this.

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<v Speaker 1>The life has to be sustainable.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be sustainable.

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<v Speaker 4>So if I do my meditation, you know, three times

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<v Speaker 4>a week, that's awesome because I'm doing that consistently.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has to be something you look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>as well. A yes, yes, you don't want to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it as punishment.

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<v Speaker 3>What about for you? Do you feel insecure and get down?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I definitely do. I find like I get through waves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have times where I'm like, ah, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really impact me. But I've definitely throughout the years

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, I definitely compared myself to other people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in some of the positions, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the having quite perfony, going oh my god, why

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<v Speaker 2>why would I even compare myself because we are genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>such different people. Yes we may be in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the jobs, but all of us human beings are so unique.

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<v Speaker 2>And until you can actually fully embrace that and dive

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<v Speaker 2>into that and lean into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just going to be a shit version, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You're never going to be the best version until you

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<v Speaker 2>completely embrace at all. So but I'm still learning, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still find that random things will trigger me and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just be you know, thrown off course and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh my god, am I doing I could

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<v Speaker 2>have been doing better if I did this or this,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, the inner dialogue loves to take over sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just love to pack other people's brains and

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<v Speaker 2>show that this is such like a human response, like

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<v Speaker 2>we do all go through these moments and we're not

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<v Speaker 2>We can't just be confident one hundred percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love how you admit that you don't make

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<v Speaker 1>it till you make it sometimes I take.

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<v Speaker 3>It till I make it all the time. Success level.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, like Taylor I'm a big TAILOSWOFT fan

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<v Speaker 4>and Taylorsoft has a song.

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<v Speaker 3>I can do it with a broken heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're good when you can do it with

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<v Speaker 3>a broken heart.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think for anyone who sees someone like yourself

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, someone who's kind of face forward in

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<v Speaker 4>their industry, a lot of the times you don't see

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<v Speaker 4>the broken heart because you see the light in the

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<v Speaker 4>eyes that you've worked so hard to also be able

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<v Speaker 4>to do at the same time. And that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>that there isn't shadows behind the camera whatever's going out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to one of your podcast episodes talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how important it was to remember that you are the

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<v Speaker 2>main character in your life and you're not meant to

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<v Speaker 2>play the sidekick, and it's so easy to get like

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<v Speaker 2>caught up and that narrative of being in someone else's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, other story. Do you want to talk through that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was I love that you brought that up

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<v Speaker 4>because it's been a real struggle for me. I've really

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<v Speaker 4>really struggled with being in someone else's story, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a pattern that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually repeat to this very day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I get it from my upbringing because

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<v Speaker 4>my dad was very successful as a musician.

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<v Speaker 3>He still is, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of was always going along with my parents'

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<v Speaker 4>succeeds in their work. And I'm have an older brother,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's a lot older, so I kind of felt

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<v Speaker 4>like the little sidekick to them.

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<v Speaker 3>They are great parents. It's not a bad thing, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting to analyze because I've often attracted these sort of

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<v Speaker 4>big friendships or big personalities, and I'm someone who loves

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<v Speaker 4>to help. I love to give advice, I love to love,

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<v Speaker 4>I love to care.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so hard on my sleeve, but.

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<v Speaker 4>In to my detriment occasionally and to my detriment where

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't take the space to go, huh, is this

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<v Speaker 4>what I want? Is this the food I want to eat?

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<v Speaker 4>And is this where I want to be? Is? Do

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<v Speaker 4>I still want to stay out this late? Do I

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<v Speaker 4>want to drink alcohol? Do I want to behave like this?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I gossiping and bitching because I think it's cool

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<v Speaker 4>to this person? Or There were so many tiny ways

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<v Speaker 4>it started to show up, And then I noticed that

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<v Speaker 4>when I pulled back and stood in my power that

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<v Speaker 4>some of those quite captivating, big personality people lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Interest in me.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I wasn't simply fanning their fire. And that's okay,

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 4>that's divine. I think everyone comes into our life to

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<v Speaker 4>teach us something. So all love to anyone who but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a real thing for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Of I'm allowed to come.

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<v Speaker 4>First, and anyone out there who struggles with it, what

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<v Speaker 4>I work on.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like my little tip for.

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<v Speaker 4>It is any tiny way that you can practice using

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<v Speaker 4>your voice, even if you people please and then you

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<v Speaker 4>leave and you come back and you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is sorry problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm recommunicating even if it's like that, and it will

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<v Speaker 4>be messy and it will be clunky, but do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're at the cafe and they give you

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong milk, say something with kindness. Let's say something.

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<v Speaker 4>If the food's not right, say something right. If you

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to go to that party, don't just say yes,

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<v Speaker 4>negotiate compromise. Hey, I'm not wanting to be out right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I take you for a walk and a coffee

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<v Speaker 4>the next morning? So not so much seeing it as

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<v Speaker 4>black and white, but seeing it as I can negotiate

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<v Speaker 4>for something that also works for me. So that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a big journey. But that's my little tip

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<v Speaker 4>right now is honoring your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why do I know so many people pleasers. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I know so many reformed, reformed people plasers

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<v Speaker 2>that are like on the road to being way more assertive.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is it so ingrained? Is it particularly a

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<v Speaker 2>woman thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's quite kiwi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it is a kiwi thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is quite like even my time in Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>I find them a lot more assertive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And maybe that's what helped me because I did

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 2>live in Australia for a few years and I look

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<v Speaker 2>back at the things that I used to accept and

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<v Speaker 2>again it's still an ongoing journey. But like you would

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<v Speaker 2>feel so uncomfortable, you know, standing up or voicing where

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming from, and you'd almost have to apologize for

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>every little thing that you wanted to say. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, hag about No, there is nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with just affirming your boundaries or stating your opinion or

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<v Speaker 2>your perspective or why you feel good. But like it's

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<v Speaker 2>still so much easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very hard, and it's hard because it means that

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<v Speaker 4>you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To respect yourself and your life.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to say with true confidence, my story comes first.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, and I think like for me in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, it was like, oh, this, this person's story

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 4>is cooler than mine. They've got cooler things going on,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 4>They've got more success, they've got more money, more whatever

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 4>they have. Like, let's go with their idea and way

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 4>of being and getting swept.

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<v Speaker 3>Up in someone else and to find that personal.

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<v Speaker 4>Like darma of no, like I'm allowed to take up

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 4>space too, we can do what I want to do.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 4>Is super super challenging. It's super challenging. It's a journey

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm on.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, do you I know that you loved a butcher

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a quote, but are there a number of quotes that

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<v Speaker 2>you do sometimes come back to in your life to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you on track?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I have. This is a quote by Louise Hay.

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<v Speaker 1>Love her.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, if you haven't discovered Louise Hey, discover Louise Hay.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like the godmother of all the self help work

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 4>you've ever heard.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>She like Life Loves You is one of her books.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can heal your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can heal your body anyway. She has an affirmation

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 4>and it is all as well in my.

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<v Speaker 1>World simpole, simpole, I live by that.

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<v Speaker 4>I live by another quote that's my own, which is

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<v Speaker 4>time to do the impossible. So when I'm faced with

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<v Speaker 4>something really crazy or really full on, I just say

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 4>time to do the impossible, and that really helps me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, those are my two little gems. Do you have

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>anything you live by?

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<v Speaker 2>I see this is over. Not off the top of

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>my head, I've thrown you under the bus. No, I'm

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>sure I do. Did you assay saying did I read

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<v Speaker 2>something that you see more as more.

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<v Speaker 1>More is more?

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 3>That's another great one.

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>So then I don't know if it would have flied.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I get overwhelmed. How do how does how

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>do you translate that to you?

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<v Speaker 4>I love everything like I'm just like I want the

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 4>bright color, the sparkly outfit.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 3>I want to be half naked wearing mesh. I want

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<v Speaker 3>like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most outrageous birthday cake, Like give me all of it,

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like I just I love

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 4>it like I love and tense people. I love people

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>who love life. I love loud people. I love being funny.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 4>I love doing new things and going on adventures and

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 4>just biting off more than I can chew.

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of who I am.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 4>So for me, more is more is just like I think,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 4>especially for women and New Zealanders as well.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, a little tall Bobby syndrome is real.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even say it, but I think a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people sort of like to bring into the background

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 4>or or they're scared to be too much. And I

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 4>love being too much. I think being too much is

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<v Speaker 4>the best thing in the world. And anyone who thinks

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 4>they're too much, come and hang out with me. We

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 4>can start a crew. And how much more applies to

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 4>my life?

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>What does success mean to you? How would you define success?

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Learning? Applied learning?

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 4>So if I'm going into a situation similar to what

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 4>I've been into the past, but I'm handling it differently,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Like maybe one of those tough conversations we were talking about,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 4>maybe you know you mentioned sometimes you get triggered. The

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 4>best feeling for me is when I noticed somewhere I

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>would have gotten triggered and I didn't. So those moments

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 4>where you feel your reaction shift and you're turning up

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>differently you're applying yourself differently. That to me is success.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 4>It's evolution. I really believe that we're here to evolve

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 4>as people, as humankind, as your individual soul and self.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>And any way, even if the plan and the route

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>that I've been thrown is not what I would have

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 4>ever wished for myself, if I've found a deeper connection

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 4>to me and an invitation to love myself further, and

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I've taken it, and I can feel that that.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Success, I love that is. That is some seriously profound

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>words there. I love that, guess And if you were

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>will wrap this up soon. But if you were to

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>give eighteen year old Casts some advice, knowing everything that

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>she's about to go through, I'm really throwing you under

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the bus here with like quotes and advice.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>But what would you say, eighteen year old Cares?

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<v Speaker 4>What would I say to eighteen year old Cares? I

0:31:55.520 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 4>think I would say do everything, and more like, don't

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 4>hold back, go as deep into it as you can.

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 4>So if you're heartbroken, be really heartbroken, because one day

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 4>you're going to have the love of your life.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>If you're poor, be really poor.

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 4>One day you won't be say yes to every trip

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 4>every festival, drink every drink, try everything, Take every experience

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 4>you can, because looking back on it, every experience I

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 4>had was the best thing that ever happened to me.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 4>So I would tell her to press on the accelerator

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 4>and to stop worrying so much about being perfect, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think when I was eighteen, I was really, really,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 4>really worried about being perfect, and I would have preferred

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>to be a certain weight on the scale then, and

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 4>that would have sat in my head at events, at

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 4>dates and at university. I would have hid so much

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>about the scale and what it had said that morning.

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 4>And that is not a measure of who you are,

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 4>who your soul is, what you're capable of, how loving

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 4>you are, your energy, how beautiful you are.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 3>It's nothing. It's literally actually nothing.

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 4>And so take the experiences that mean something and take

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 4>them seriously and get out of your own way.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:23.479
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's crazy when you do kind of have

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that epiphany of how much time you've wasted worrying about

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 2>things that I were really really skewed in your head

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and we're not real.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Like, for example, I look back, like you know.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>In Facebook, memories pop up on Facebook and it's like

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, and I just remember being so fixated

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on big thighs, whatever it was. I look back and

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, shit, I'd killed for that body, and you

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>just don't have appreciation in the moment. And I think

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that is a real killer looking back at all the

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>time that you spent stupidly worrying and focusing on the

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>wrong things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's just so. And you get a bit older

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 3>and you're just like what.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it Jess gets more and more. You get

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>older and older and you're like, hang on, like those

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you're living in your prime.

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 4>And now worry is a personal jail cell yeap, yes,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 4>bars imposed by you, and it's armor to the rest

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 4>of the world. And you're losing so much of your

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 4>freedom from your own mind. And that's why I'm really

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 4>passionate about what I do and that's why I have

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 4>my podcast and what I'm trying to get ahead for

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 4>people is like you can free yourself because it's so

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 4>it seems so silly, but I know how ingrained it

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 4>is to hold yourself back from like love or from

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 4>a beautiful life because you're like, well, I want to

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 4>be five kg's list.

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am talking about like just doing it and

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>jumping in.

0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I love the.

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Idea of just also failing spectacularly, Like we're so scared

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 2>of failure, right, but actually failure it should be a word,

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>because even if you do fail or how you perceive

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to fail, you're learning something along the way, and that's

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that's leading you to something else.

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 4>And as long as you know that everything you're every

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 4>step you're taking, it's because you're interested in it.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter how it lands.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, sometimes something might land and you're like, awesome,

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 4>everyone loved it.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 3>And then sometimes it doesn't land and you're like, that

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>was cool.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 2>We move on following the nudgers. I like the idea

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>of following the nudges. And again that's coming back to

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>like tuning into your gut and your intuition and stuff,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 2>but really learning your in a navigation system and working

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>art we truly want to go next. And yeah, it

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 2>might not always work, but at least you're kind of

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>being true to yourself.

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 4>Do you have like a great failure that taught you

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 4>and led you to where you are today, Like it

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>was part of the kind of puzzle and.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>It always makes sense down the track, Like at the

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<v Speaker 2>time you're like, this fucking sucks, but down the track

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, thank god that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, cass Look, it has just made an absolute honor

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<v Speaker 2>having you on. Today's so nice to get to know

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<v Speaker 2>you a little better. And I'm sure that you're staying

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<v Speaker 2>busy writing more. So hopefully watch this space and more

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<v Speaker 2>to come from cas Grod so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been your like the best energy, so much fun

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<v Speaker 4>and so great.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I'm so excited to be on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Cares. That was my chat with

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<v Speaker 2>Cassandra Grog. I say, Cassandra, I called a cass through

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<v Speaker 2>the whole chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say with cass And as I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Going into the chat, I just love her enthusiastic energy,

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<v Speaker 2>I love her commitment to herself and people may have

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<v Speaker 2>felt overwhelmed listening to her daily routine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that you have to go and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I like about what she said is that

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<v Speaker 2>it's showcased their true dedication to yourself, and that looks

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<v Speaker 2>so different for everyone. And if you are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a time poor parent and you really struggle to get

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<v Speaker 2>those things, and in the day work out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>prioritize what it is that you need and then make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you sched your time for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this, do I do it a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I'm telling you this, so then I remind

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<v Speaker 2>myself to do it. I love the chat around being

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<v Speaker 2>the main character in the story, bringing back that main

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<v Speaker 2>character energy and not just being a pushover and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going into that autopilot mode where you start doing

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<v Speaker 2>things because others around you are doing it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you realize, actually, this is just betraying myself. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do this isn't the life I want

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<v Speaker 2>to live. So stepping back being really conscious on what

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<v Speaker 2>it is the life that you want to have for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I loved also the check in, the checking in.

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<v Speaker 1>After certain events, whether it is doing a task for

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<v Speaker 1>work or catching up with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain friend, spending time with colleagues, checking in after each event,

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<v Speaker 2>working out hard did that make you feel and going

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<v Speaker 2>into the body, because the body talks and we always

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<v Speaker 2>forget that. And I know it may sound where we're

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<v Speaker 2>going into the resounding yes of the body when you

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<v Speaker 2>feel that, but I think the more in tune we get,

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<v Speaker 2>the more clear those messages become. So they were my

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<v Speaker 2>main takeaways from CASS this week. A real refreshing episode

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you got something out of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>will be back next Sunday with another episode of Slow

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<v Speaker 2>It Down.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining me.