1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: With the Heads Podcast Network. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Hi, welcome back to another episode of Slow It Down. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: I am your host, PJ Harding, and I am loving 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: hearing your feedback on all of the episodes that we've 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: released so far. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Don't be shy to get in touch. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: Let me know what's resonating, what's not resonating, what you 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: want to hear more of this podcast. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Obviously, I am on a journey. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: To work out how people find peace and the chaos. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: It's not about getting rid of the chaos, but it's 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: about working out what rituals and practices people do to 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: stay sane in this crazy world, and it is certainly 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: extra crazy at the moment. This week, I am joined 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: by an incredible woman who's all but I first came 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: into contact with I can't remember if it was the 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: end of last year or the beginning of this year. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: And when I saw her, I thought, she is captivating. 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: She has a real enthusiasm for life, an infectious energy. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: And she knows what she wants. 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: And I thought, that's what we need on the podcast 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: this week, a bit of uplifting talk. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: So I wanted to get. 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Inside the brain of Cassandra Grodd. She is an author, podcaster, 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: and content creator, and in this episode we talk about confidence. 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: Has she always been as confident as she appears online? 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: The answer is no, and the process that she's gone 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: on is really interesting and that journey that she has 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: taken to feel really comfortable in her own skin, So 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: we dive into that in so much more. I hope 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: you get a lot out of this chat, like I 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: did my conversation with Cassandra Grod. I do just want 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: to do a trigger warning before we get into the podcast, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: as there is content that is sensitive in nature as 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: we discuss topics such as eating disorders. So I would 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: encourage you to take a break during the episode if 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: it all becomes too much, or make an informed decision 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: that this content isn't right for you. 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Okays, welcome to slow it down. 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much and honored to be here. 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: I first came across you when we were on a 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: bit of a conference with Hannah Krera and it was 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: like this beautiful weekend session and that's when I first 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: got to hear you. And I must say, you have 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: very beautiful, infectious energy that you kind of. 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: Just want more of. I think you've got such a 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: zest for life. 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Ah, what a compliment, I would say the exact same. 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: Thing to you, because I know that it's possibly not 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: always been like that, and I feel like you have 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: been on a real journey of coming to love yourself. 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Is that right correct? 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Because you've got two books out called Bully and Karling, 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: and can you run through just quickly the premise of 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: those two books and how you ended up freaking writing 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: books in the first place. 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: So. I struggled really intimately with an eating disorder through 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: my teenage years. So I had bulimia from I remember 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: having balimic tendencies from when I was quite tiny, and 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: I dissected all about where that came from and a 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: lot of therapy, but it was something that I just 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: lived with and it was this incredible secret and it 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: held hands with anxiety disorder, which I was medicated for 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: at one point, body dysmorphia, everything under that category, and 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: writing and creativity for me was an outlet and it 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: was something that just happened really, really naturally. And at 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: the same time, I joined social media right when it 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: was booming, and I remember when it first came out 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: and I was seventeen, and we posted photos of like 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: tank and sushi and like how weird friends in high 73 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: school were filtered, and I coincided with the platform that 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: is Instagram, and I just naturally was someone who sort 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: of gained attention. 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: And when I. 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: First joined social media, I was in a very very 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: dark place in terms of how I saw myself and 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: how I perceived myself, and I was presenting myself as 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: something I wasn't in a way. And one day I 81 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: shared a piece of writing and I was living in 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: the UK at the time, and I remember I went 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: to the bathroom and I came back and I had 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: fifty d ms PJ Wow, And I was like, shut 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: the front door. I'm Kylie Jenner. Everybody can leave. 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: This is the most success any human has ever experienced. 87 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: And there was this massive encouragement for me to keep going, 88 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: and I just started sharing writing my platform built. People 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: were like, give us a book. And I had no 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: idea what the frick I was doing. I just the 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: whole thing was me and free answers that I hired 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: off Fiber and great friends of mine. 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: And put the book out Lightning Head Earth, and it 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: did exceptionally well. 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: It was third on the Amazon best sellers and remained 96 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: up there. It stayed on the charts for quite a 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: while and I went on to do my second one. 98 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: So to answer your question, I think writing was the 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: a sort of a pinnacle point of an incredible journey 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: i'd have I'd had with discovering myself through this eating disorder, 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: and that's what the books are about, essentially. 102 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: And so you were talking about how like the life 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: that you were projecting online differed from how you were feeling. 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: What was the process of aligning your true self with 105 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: what you were projecting out there. 106 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: It's funny because when. 107 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: I say that it could be taken in a negative context, 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: it actually worked really positively for me because it was 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: this breath of air where I would post online as 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: the super confident girl, and I think somewhere along the 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: way my brain started to go, oh, wait, we actually 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: can be that person. So it was potentially a little 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: bit of a fake it till you make it, and 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: it was also a moment of showing myself what's possible. 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: Social media gets a really bad, bad stick of it, 116 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: but it actually worked quite harmoniously for me as long 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: as I was doing the inner work at the same time. 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: And I think doing the inner. 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: Work working through the trauma, working through the things in 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 4: my childhood, working through the shadow, finding this radical acceptance 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: of myself and my body and forgiving myself. That's when 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: the presentation and the image and what I actually believed 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: to be true lined up. 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: And it didn't. 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 4: It wasn't overnight like it was. I'm about to be 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: twenty eight, so I've been on this platform posting photos 127 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: of myself for a wee while. 128 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting that you actually found it worked 129 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: and your favorite and it was almost like, I guess, 130 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: not like a mood board, but you'd be kind of 131 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: trying to curate how you wanted to feel. And as 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: long as you were doing that kind of internal work, 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: then you really felt like you eventually kind of got 134 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: there And did that take a lot of I don't know, obviously, 135 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: this is because I know you're a bit of a 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: gym when it comes to manifestation. Is that when you 137 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: really started getting that into gear as well? 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, I'll butcher this. 139 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: I don't know the exact you know, someone listening out 140 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: there will give me a lot of shit for this. 141 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: I butcher all my quotes. 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: If you're about to butcher right, I really appreciate it. 143 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't there. 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: I know, right, like I say things on mine and 145 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm like right. So there was a study done, I 146 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: believe it was by Harvard, and they measured the strongest 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: emotion that can be admitted from the human body. And 148 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: how they measured this, dear God, don't ask me, but 149 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: they did. And the strongest emotion or state of being 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: that a human could be in was authenticity. 151 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: So it was on the scale. Authenticity was right up. 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: And then it was forgiveness I believe in, then gratitude 153 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: And when we think of that word you through out there, 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: that's manifestation. 155 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: It's very commercial. 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: Now, what manifestation means is that you are as close 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: to living your authentic life as possible. 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: So if you've got your. 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: Ship pointed in your true direction and you're not pretending, 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: and it takes going through the layers of where am 161 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: I not being myself right? Where am I performing? Where 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: am I pushing? Where am I moving something uphill? Where 163 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: am I people pleasing? Where am I saying yes when 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: I should be saying no? And it's manifestation is actually 165 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: just about lifting your self respect. So for something like 166 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: healing and eating disorder, which is quite a disrespectful behavior 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: to do to yourself. Naturally, in that process, I found 168 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: my way to manifestation. 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: And so manifestation can be really. 170 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 4: Spiritual and crystals and whatnot, but then it can also 171 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: be really tangible and just like when you treat yourself right, 172 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: the universe treats you right. That's what started to really 173 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: click and change for me, and it changed everything. It 174 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: changed how I look physically. That energy that you talk about, 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: that zest for life, that positivity that cut path full. 176 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: It all started with how I was treating myself. And 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: if I was going to binge and purge over a 178 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: toilet four days a week, that's not a very great 179 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: way that I can four days week, four times a day. Rather, 180 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: it's not a great way that I can tell myself 181 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: and any other aspect of my life that I come first. 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Wow, Authenticity is like obviously another word that's thrown around 183 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: a lot, but it's probably something that a lot of 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: people really really struggle to be truly authentic, whether it's 185 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: being in a job that they. 186 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: Just aren't quite aligned with. 187 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: A relationship, living where they're not quite you know, content with. 188 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: So you were saying, like going through all the things 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: that you know you're not. 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't remember how you exactly worded. 191 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: It, but the way you're pretending. 192 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So would you like, do you have a tangible 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: way that people listening right now can kind of do 194 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: a checklist in their brain if they're being authentic, because 195 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: sometimes it is. It's one of those things that's really 196 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: hard to measure. 197 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: I would say that the first thing you need to 198 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: do is you need to listen to your body. So 199 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: you need to take the space, whether that's five minutes 200 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: in the morning, five minutes at night, whether you're at 201 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: that job that you hate that you don't really need 202 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 4: cash to give you a checklist because you know you. 203 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: Fricking hate it there. 204 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: And I like to put my hands on my womb 205 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: or like lower stomach if you hate that word everyone 206 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: hates sorry wom. 207 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Wom's beautiful. Something quite confronting about the word worm. 208 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's so beautiful. 209 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: But like, yeah, yeah, it's like kind of near moist, 210 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: it is. I'm with you, but you can, you know, 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: you put your hands on your womb and take a 212 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: deep breath and really notice where your breath is heading, 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: how deep it's going in. And I like to ask myself, 214 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: what do I need to know? And also you can 215 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: ask yourself what's true. So when you sit with your 216 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: body and it might tell you nothing, or it might 217 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: tell you everything. It might tell you so many things 218 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: that aren't true, you're a bit confronted. 219 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: But you're going to. 220 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: Start to feel tension towards what won't be right. And 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 4: I think you were talking earlier about this podcast being 222 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: about people who. 223 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: Move very fast. 224 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: And if you're moving fast and a big player, and 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: we will arm we have loads of things going on 226 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: in our life that five minutes every morning, every evening, 227 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: in the middle of your day, where you ask yourself, 228 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: have I been honest with myself? 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: Or am I betraying myself right? 230 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: And that sense of betrayal to the self will come 231 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: through very strongly in your body, and it's going to 232 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: give you quite a strong compass and my experience of 233 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: what's working and what's not. And beyond that, pay attention 234 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: to how you feel at the end of little things, 235 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: end of a meeting, end of a friend hangout, end 236 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: of a date. Do you leave and you feel like 237 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: high energy? Do you leave and you feel low energy? 238 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: And so getting out of our head and all this 239 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: like mental thinking and YadA YadA, and actually listening to 240 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: our feeling level of what feels good and what works 241 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: for us. 242 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: That's my tangible tip. 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: That's something that I practiced every single day for authenticity. 244 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 245 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: I love that, and I because I've I have a 246 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: little bit of worm from time to time, and like 247 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: you often hear about like the full body yees, like 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: getting that full body yees, but that can take a 249 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: while again to really. 250 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Get in tune with yourself. 251 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: And so it comes down to I supose that regular practice, 252 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: so you you really start to know what the signals 253 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: mean in your body when there is that insane resistance 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: right when it's like, nah, this isn't right, because your 255 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: body ultimately knows. It's a very great tip that I 256 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: think we can walk away with today. So thank you course. 257 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: So what about when kes is feeling really blur or 258 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: really yuck and she's in a bit of a rut. 259 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: How do you navigate through that and how do you 260 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: often reset? 261 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: I have two answers for that. The first answer is 262 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: my practices. So I am very very grounded and loyal 263 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: to my practices. And when I start to feel off track, 264 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: I notice that I've slipped from the things that make 265 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: me feel great. So my morning routine is so sacred 266 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: to me. It is meticulous, it is perfected. It is 267 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: like I'm the most annoying person you'd ever mate, but 268 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm on an empty stomach. People tell me, I saw 269 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: you walking and you were smiling, like you looked insane. 270 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: You were smiling so much. 271 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: And it's because I have this. 272 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Walking meditation and sometimes I chant, and sometimes I put 273 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: my arms out and I say my affirmation and I 274 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: come back from this walk and I'm blowing and people 275 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: are sort of like, my alarm hasn't gone. 276 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Off, So so talk I throw your meticulous routine. 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I want to hear it. 278 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: Okay, So it starts six a m. 279 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: And I have a bone broth with so I'm not 280 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: sure if anyone knows much about bone broth. It's very 281 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: good for your collagen, YadA. 282 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: YadA on drop and then I will have some supplements. 283 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: So I take my Eve Wellness, blood, sugar Babe, and 284 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: vitamin C and. 285 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: Then I go for my walk. My walk is forty five. 286 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: Minutes, and I listen to a walking meditation of myself 287 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: or of doctor Joe Despenser. 288 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh, he's the man. 289 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: He's the man. 290 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: I was listening to us audiover the other day, although 291 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: I was trying to drive long distances, and I must 292 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: say it was not the best thing to stay awake. 293 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: In the car, but some of his serving voice knowledge. 294 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I think meditation that I do it's unreal amazing. 295 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: I love that everyone needs to do it. It's like 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: you go through who you used to be, who you. 297 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: Want to be, and you actually like I like walking 298 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: through my meditation because I literally walk into the person 299 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm trying to become. 300 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: Come back. If it's a really good day, I'm going 301 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: to the gymeral plates. 302 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: If it's not that type of day, I'm sitting and 303 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: doing twenty. 304 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: Minutes of breath work. I do Awaken breathwork. You have 305 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: incredible shout out Awaken, look as Mac hewe awesome guy. 306 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: I'll journal anything that comes up. Then I'm having my breakfast, 307 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: which is high protein the rest of my supplements. I'm showering, 308 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: and then I go and I have my coffee after 309 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: I've eaten an hour and a half after I wake up. 310 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: Everybody's super important changed my whole life. 311 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 2: And wait, wait, you have the coffee an hour after you'veden. 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, sorry, an hour after I've waken up. 313 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay. 314 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: Food and tummy high proteins, and then I'll go and 315 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: I like to sit with my coffee and make it 316 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: a moment and really enjoy it and be slow with it. 317 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: And that's my slow little moment, and I go through 318 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: my day and my to do list, and that's how 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: I start my morning. 320 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I love. 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I have a toddler, so I can imagine 322 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: other parents out there right now, are like the sounds 323 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: like a dream routine, And yes, I can maybe doing 324 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: about of kids. So like, look, everyone has to kind 325 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: of work around the time that they've got. But I 326 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: love the dedication that you've got and you just know 327 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: that for you and when you don't do that, then 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: you start feeling out of alignment. 329 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Right. 330 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my whole. 331 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: Thing with it is is that that's my life changed 332 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: when I got a morning routine, because that's how I 333 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: tell the universe that I come first. So before I 334 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: go to that big meeting or before I'm doing things 335 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: for everyone else, I'm doing. 336 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: Something for me. 337 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: And I swear when I started admitting that into the world, 338 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: the whole world started to go, oh, okay, you come first. 339 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: You're prioritizing yourself. 340 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: So I'm sure everyone can't do the cast Rod two 341 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: hours all the morning routine, because sometimes Cas Grod can't 342 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: do that. Even if it's like the five minute chicken 343 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: with your body, have it stacked, do that in the shower. 344 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 4: You can take a couple of supplements for yourself. You 345 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: can have a nourishing breakfast whilst you're making your families. 346 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: Incorporate it in a way that works for you. 347 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: You know. 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: I love that. Do you even feel self doubt or 349 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and secure? 350 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent so you of course yes. 351 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: Taught me through it. 352 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Taught me through what happens when you when you feel 353 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: all of that, well, it. 354 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: Normally comes for me. 355 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: I wonder if you relate to this after I've put 356 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: something out so I don't really doubt myself free launching it. 357 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: I have this very bizarre confidence that I get from 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: my dad, who's super German. He thinks everything he does 359 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: is great, and like, I'm just like this is awesome, Like, guys, 360 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: look at this photo. 361 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: I look amazing. Wow. And then I put it out 362 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: there and I'm like I hate everything about this. 363 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, or I sometimes will just have imposter syndrome, and 364 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: I think that there's people who are more qualified or 365 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: more you know, gorgeous or skinnier or funnier or better 366 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: or smarter or whatever it is. Your little brain comes 367 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: in and I just tell my brain that for me, 368 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: that voice, you're allowed to sit in the car. 369 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: You're not allowed to drive. 370 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: I can hear you, and you're in the passenger seat, 371 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: and you're never going to go away because you're a 372 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: part of me, and my role here is to love 373 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: every part of me. I'm not going to throw you 374 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 4: out of the car, but I'm going to be like, 375 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: I get your. 376 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: Opinion, I'm going to show you the other option. 377 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: So I think hearing it and acting on it is 378 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: two different things. And I'm grateful that now I'm at 379 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: the place where my big girl pants drive the car. 380 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Most of the time. 381 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 4: But of course that voice is there sometimes, and sometimes 382 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: I think just letting yourself have a really bad day 383 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: is also really important. You know, eat some yummy food, 384 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: sit in your bed, cancel some plans. 385 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: It's like you're a. 386 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Human and knowing it's a bad day, not a bad life, 387 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: but just it's going to happen. 388 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I always say to myself, like, you 389 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: can take today or tonight, but then tomorrow you wake 390 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: up and you move forward. 391 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: So you kind of allow you kind of give yourself 392 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: that permission to just dump to emotion, dump right absolutely. 393 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and have your things that you enjoy, like I 394 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: love reality TV shows and I love you know, pizza 395 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 4: or whatever it is. 396 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: Whatever, you just need to nourish. The soul sometimes important. 397 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: And I think to all this stuff we talk about 398 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: in wellness, I think it's important to see it as 399 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: a lifestyle and not as some eight week course or 400 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: one week push or summer's come and glow up thing. 401 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: It's like, you're in this. 402 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: The life has to be sustainable. 403 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: It has to be sustainable. 404 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: So if I do my meditation, you know, three times 405 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: a week, that's awesome because I'm doing that consistently. 406 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: And it has to be something you look forward to 407 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: as well. A yes, yes, you don't want to look 408 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: at it as punishment. 409 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: What about for you? Do you feel insecure and get down? 410 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Oh? I definitely do. I find like I get through waves. 411 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: I'll have times where I'm like, ah, you know that 412 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: doesn't really impact me. But I've definitely throughout the years 413 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: when I was younger, I definitely compared myself to other people, 414 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, in some of the positions, and then I'm 415 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: in the having quite perfony, going oh my god, why 416 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: why would I even compare myself because we are genuinely 417 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: such different people. Yes we may be in some of 418 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: the jobs, but all of us human beings are so unique. 419 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: And until you can actually fully embrace that and dive 420 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: into that and lean into it. 421 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: You're just going to be a shit version, do you 422 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 423 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: You're never going to be the best version until you 424 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: completely embrace at all. So but I'm still learning, and 425 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: I still find that random things will trigger me and 426 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: I'll just be you know, thrown off course and I'll 427 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, am I doing I could 428 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: have been doing better if I did this or this, 429 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: and like, yeah, the inner dialogue loves to take over sometimes, 430 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: But I just love to pack other people's brains and 431 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: show that this is such like a human response, like 432 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 2: we do all go through these moments and we're not 433 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: We can't just be confident one hundred percent of the time. 434 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: And I love how you admit that you don't make 435 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: it till you make it sometimes I take. 436 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: It till I make it all the time. Success level. 437 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like Taylor I'm a big TAILOSWOFT fan 438 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: and Taylorsoft has a song. 439 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 3: I can do it with a broken heart. 440 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know. 441 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: You know you're good when you can do it with 442 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: a broken heart. 443 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: And I think for anyone who sees someone like yourself 444 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: or you know, someone who's kind of face forward in 445 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: their industry, a lot of the times you don't see 446 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: the broken heart because you see the light in the 447 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: eyes that you've worked so hard to also be able 448 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: to do at the same time. And that doesn't mean 449 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: that there isn't shadows behind the camera whatever's going out there. 450 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: I listened to one of your podcast episodes talking about 451 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: how important it was to remember that you are the 452 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: main character in your life and you're not meant to 453 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: play the sidekick, and it's so easy to get like 454 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: caught up and that narrative of being in someone else's life. 455 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Well, other story. Do you want to talk through that 456 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: a little bit? 457 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I love that you brought that up 458 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: because it's been a real struggle for me. I've really 459 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: really struggled with being in someone else's story, and it's 460 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 4: a pattern that I. 461 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: Actually repeat to this very day. 462 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: And I think I get it from my upbringing because 463 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: my dad was very successful as a musician. 464 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 3: He still is, so. 465 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: I kind of was always going along with my parents' 466 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 4: succeeds in their work. And I'm have an older brother, 467 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: but he's a lot older, so I kind of felt 468 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: like the little sidekick to them. 469 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: They are great parents. It's not a bad thing, but 470 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: it's just. 471 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: Interesting to analyze because I've often attracted these sort of 472 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: big friendships or big personalities, and I'm someone who loves 473 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: to help. I love to give advice, I love to love, 474 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: I love to care. 475 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm so hard on my sleeve, but. 476 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: In to my detriment occasionally and to my detriment where 477 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't take the space to go, huh, is this 478 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: what I want? Is this the food I want to eat? 479 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: And is this where I want to be? Is? Do 480 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: I still want to stay out this late? Do I 481 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 4: want to drink alcohol? Do I want to behave like this? 482 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: Am I gossiping and bitching because I think it's cool 483 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: to this person? Or There were so many tiny ways 484 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: it started to show up, And then I noticed that 485 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: when I pulled back and stood in my power that 486 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: some of those quite captivating, big personality people lost. 487 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: Interest in me. 488 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: Wow, I wasn't simply fanning their fire. And that's okay, 489 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: that's divine. I think everyone comes into our life to 490 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: teach us something. So all love to anyone who but yeah, 491 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: it's been a real thing for me. 492 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: Of I'm allowed to come. 493 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 4: First, and anyone out there who struggles with it, what 494 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: I work on. 495 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: This is like my little tip for. 496 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: It is any tiny way that you can practice using 497 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 4: your voice, even if you people please and then you 498 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: leave and you come back and you're like. 499 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: No, this is sorry problem. 500 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm recommunicating even if it's like that, and it will 501 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 4: be messy and it will be clunky, but do it. 502 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: So if you're at the cafe and they give you 503 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: the wrong milk, say something with kindness. Let's say something. 504 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: If the food's not right, say something right. If you 505 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: don't want to go to that party, don't just say yes, 506 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: negotiate compromise. Hey, I'm not wanting to be out right now. 507 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: Can I take you for a walk and a coffee 508 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: the next morning? So not so much seeing it as 509 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: black and white, but seeing it as I can negotiate 510 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: for something that also works for me. So that's yeah, 511 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: it's been a big journey. But that's my little tip 512 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: right now is honoring your voice. 513 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: That's why do I know so many people pleasers. I 514 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: feel like I know so many reformed, reformed people plasers 515 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: that are like on the road to being way more assertive. 516 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: But why is it so ingrained? Is it particularly a 517 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: woman thing? 518 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: I think it's quite kiwi. 519 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it is a kiwi thing. 520 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: I think it is quite like even my time in Australia, 521 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: I find them a lot more assertive. 522 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And maybe that's what helped me because I did 523 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: live in Australia for a few years and I look 524 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: back at the things that I used to accept and 525 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: again it's still an ongoing journey. But like you would 526 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: feel so uncomfortable, you know, standing up or voicing where 527 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: you're coming from, and you'd almost have to apologize for 528 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: every little thing that you wanted to say. And it's 529 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: like no, no, hag about No, there is nothing wrong 530 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: with just affirming your boundaries or stating your opinion or 531 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 2: your perspective or why you feel good. But like it's 532 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: still so much easier said than done. 533 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: It's very hard, and it's hard because it means that 534 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 4: you have. 535 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: To respect yourself and your life. 536 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: You have to say with true confidence, my story comes first. 537 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 4: And you know, and I think like for me in 538 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: the past, it was like, oh, this, this person's story 539 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: is cooler than mine. They've got cooler things going on, 540 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: They've got more success, they've got more money, more whatever 541 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: they have. Like, let's go with their idea and way 542 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: of being and getting swept. 543 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: Up in someone else and to find that personal. 544 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Like darma of no, like I'm allowed to take up 545 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: space too, we can do what I want to do. 546 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: Is super super challenging. It's super challenging. It's a journey 547 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: that I'm on. 548 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: Also, do you I know that you loved a butcher 549 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: a quote, but are there a number of quotes that 550 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: you do sometimes come back to in your life to 551 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: keep you on track? 552 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I have. This is a quote by Louise Hay. 553 00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Love her. 554 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: Oh, if you haven't discovered Louise Hey, discover Louise Hay. 555 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: She's like the godmother of all the self help work 556 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: you've ever heard. 557 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: She like Life Loves You is one of her books. 558 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can heal your life. 559 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: That's it. 560 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: You can heal your body anyway. She has an affirmation 561 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: and it is all as well in my. 562 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: World simpole, simpole, I live by that. 563 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: I live by another quote that's my own, which is 564 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: time to do the impossible. So when I'm faced with 565 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 4: something really crazy or really full on, I just say 566 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: time to do the impossible, and that really helps me. 567 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are my two little gems. Do you have 568 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: anything you live by? 569 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: I see this is over. Not off the top of 570 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: my head, I've thrown you under the bus. No, I'm 571 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: sure I do. Did you assay saying did I read 572 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: something that you see more as more. 573 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: More is more? 574 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: That's another great one. 575 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: So then I don't know if it would have flied. 576 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: I think I get overwhelmed. How do how does how 577 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: do you translate that to you? 578 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: I love everything like I'm just like I want the 579 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: bright color, the sparkly outfit. 580 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: I want to be half naked wearing mesh. I want 581 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: like the. 582 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: Most outrageous birthday cake, Like give me all of it, 583 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I just I love 584 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: it like I love and tense people. I love people 585 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: who love life. I love loud people. I love being funny. 586 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: I love doing new things and going on adventures and 587 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: just biting off more than I can chew. 588 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: And that's kind of who I am. 589 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: So for me, more is more is just like I think, 590 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: especially for women and New Zealanders as well. 591 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, a little tall Bobby syndrome is real. 592 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: I don't even say it, but I think a lot 593 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: of people sort of like to bring into the background 594 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: or or they're scared to be too much. And I 595 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: love being too much. I think being too much is 596 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: the best thing in the world. And anyone who thinks 597 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: they're too much, come and hang out with me. We 598 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: can start a crew. And how much more applies to 599 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: my life? 600 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: What does success mean to you? How would you define success? 601 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: Learning? Applied learning? 602 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: So if I'm going into a situation similar to what 603 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: I've been into the past, but I'm handling it differently, 604 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: Like maybe one of those tough conversations we were talking about, 605 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 4: maybe you know you mentioned sometimes you get triggered. The 606 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: best feeling for me is when I noticed somewhere I 607 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: would have gotten triggered and I didn't. So those moments 608 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: where you feel your reaction shift and you're turning up 609 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: differently you're applying yourself differently. That to me is success. 610 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: It's evolution. I really believe that we're here to evolve 611 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: as people, as humankind, as your individual soul and self. 612 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: And any way, even if the plan and the route 613 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: that I've been thrown is not what I would have 614 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: ever wished for myself, if I've found a deeper connection 615 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: to me and an invitation to love myself further, and 616 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: I've taken it, and I can feel that that. 617 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: Success, I love that is. That is some seriously profound 618 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: words there. I love that, guess And if you were 619 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: will wrap this up soon. But if you were to 620 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: give eighteen year old Casts some advice, knowing everything that 621 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: she's about to go through, I'm really throwing you under 622 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: the bus here with like quotes and advice. 623 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: But what would you say, eighteen year old Cares? 624 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 4: What would I say to eighteen year old Cares? I 625 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: think I would say do everything, and more like, don't 626 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: hold back, go as deep into it as you can. 627 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: So if you're heartbroken, be really heartbroken, because one day 628 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: you're going to have the love of your life. 629 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: If you're poor, be really poor. 630 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: One day you won't be say yes to every trip 631 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: every festival, drink every drink, try everything, Take every experience 632 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: you can, because looking back on it, every experience I 633 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: had was the best thing that ever happened to me. 634 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: So I would tell her to press on the accelerator 635 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: and to stop worrying so much about being perfect, because 636 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: I think when I was eighteen, I was really, really, 637 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: really worried about being perfect, and I would have preferred 638 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: to be a certain weight on the scale then, and 639 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: that would have sat in my head at events, at 640 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: dates and at university. I would have hid so much 641 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: about the scale and what it had said that morning. 642 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: And that is not a measure of who you are, 643 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: who your soul is, what you're capable of, how loving 644 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: you are, your energy, how beautiful you are. 645 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: It's nothing. It's literally actually nothing. 646 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: And so take the experiences that mean something and take 647 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: them seriously and get out of your own way. 648 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 2: I guess it's crazy when you do kind of have 649 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: that epiphany of how much time you've wasted worrying about 650 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: things that I were really really skewed in your head 651 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: and we're not real. 652 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Like, for example, I look back, like you know. 653 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: In Facebook, memories pop up on Facebook and it's like 654 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: ten years ago, and I just remember being so fixated 655 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: on big thighs, whatever it was. I look back and 656 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, I'd killed for that body, and you 657 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: just don't have appreciation in the moment. And I think 658 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: that is a real killer looking back at all the 659 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: time that you spent stupidly worrying and focusing on the 660 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: wrong things. 661 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just so. And you get a bit older 662 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: and you're just like what. 663 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it Jess gets more and more. You get 664 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: older and older and you're like, hang on, like those 665 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: you're living in your prime. 666 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 667 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 668 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 4: And now worry is a personal jail cell yeap, yes, 669 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: bars imposed by you, and it's armor to the rest 670 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: of the world. And you're losing so much of your 671 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: freedom from your own mind. And that's why I'm really 672 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: passionate about what I do and that's why I have 673 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: my podcast and what I'm trying to get ahead for 674 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: people is like you can free yourself because it's so 675 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 4: it seems so silly, but I know how ingrained it 676 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: is to hold yourself back from like love or from 677 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: a beautiful life because you're like, well, I want to 678 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 4: be five kg's list. 679 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I am talking about like just doing it and 680 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: jumping in. 681 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: I love the. 682 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: Idea of just also failing spectacularly, Like we're so scared 683 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: of failure, right, but actually failure it should be a word, 684 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: because even if you do fail or how you perceive 685 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 2: to fail, you're learning something along the way, and that's 686 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: that's leading you to something else. 687 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 4: And as long as you know that everything you're every 688 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: step you're taking, it's because you're interested in it. 689 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how it lands. 690 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes something might land and you're like, awesome, 691 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: everyone loved it. 692 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 3: And then sometimes it doesn't land and you're like, that 693 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: was cool. 694 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 2: We move on following the nudgers. I like the idea 695 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: of following the nudges. And again that's coming back to 696 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: like tuning into your gut and your intuition and stuff, 697 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: but really learning your in a navigation system and working 698 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: art we truly want to go next. And yeah, it 699 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: might not always work, but at least you're kind of 700 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: being true to yourself. 701 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 4: Do you have like a great failure that taught you 702 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 4: and led you to where you are today, Like it 703 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: was part of the kind of puzzle and. 704 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: It always makes sense down the track, Like at the 705 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: time you're like, this fucking sucks, but down the track 706 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: you're like, thank god that didn't work out. 707 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: That was a blessing. 708 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: Well, cass Look, it has just made an absolute honor 709 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: having you on. Today's so nice to get to know 710 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: you a little better. And I'm sure that you're staying 711 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: busy writing more. So hopefully watch this space and more 712 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: to come from cas Grod so much more. 713 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 714 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: It's been your like the best energy, so much fun 715 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: and so great. 716 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: So it's I'm so excited to be on your podcast. 717 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Cares. That was my chat with 718 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 2: Cassandra Grog. I say, Cassandra, I called a cass through 719 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 2: the whole chat. 720 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: Let's just say with cass And as I said. 721 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: Going into the chat, I just love her enthusiastic energy, 722 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: I love her commitment to herself and people may have 723 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: felt overwhelmed listening to her daily routine. 724 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: It's not that you have to go and do that. 725 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: But what I like about what she said is that 726 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: it's showcased their true dedication to yourself, and that looks 727 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: so different for everyone. And if you are, you know, 728 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: a time poor parent and you really struggle to get 729 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: those things, and in the day work out, you know, 730 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: prioritize what it is that you need and then make 731 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: sure that you sched your time for that. 732 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: I say this, do I do it a lot of 733 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: the time. 734 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: No, But I'm telling you this, so then I remind 735 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 2: myself to do it. I love the chat around being 736 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: the main character in the story, bringing back that main 737 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: character energy and not just being a pushover and kind 738 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: of going into that autopilot mode where you start doing 739 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: things because others around you are doing it, and then 740 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: you realize, actually, this is just betraying myself. I actually 741 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: don't want to do this isn't the life I want 742 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: to live. So stepping back being really conscious on what 743 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: it is the life that you want to have for yourself. 744 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: And then I loved also the check in, the checking in. 745 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: After certain events, whether it is doing a task for 746 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: work or catching up with a. 747 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: Certain friend, spending time with colleagues, checking in after each event, 748 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: working out hard did that make you feel and going 749 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: into the body, because the body talks and we always 750 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 2: forget that. And I know it may sound where we're 751 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: going into the resounding yes of the body when you 752 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 2: feel that, but I think the more in tune we get, 753 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: the more clear those messages become. So they were my 754 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: main takeaways from CASS this week. A real refreshing episode 755 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: and I hope you got something out of it. I 756 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: will be back next Sunday with another episode of Slow 757 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 2: It Down. 758 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me.