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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfitt with the Defender Octor, the most powerful defender

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Speaker 2: Turns out that ceasfire might not have been as simple

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Speaker 2: as old Donald made it up. So we got some

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Speaker 2: new numbers around the number of weapons that kids are

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Speaker 2: taking to school. You report on the massive transfer of

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Speaker 2: wealth underway in our rural sector. Mark and Jenny Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Steve Price. They make up your midweek festival

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Speaker 2: as well. Ask EG seven past six, Welcome to the day.

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Speaker 2: Another of the large banks, this time ASB joined the

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Speaker 2: party yesterday adjusted the interest rates for borrowers. Down are

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Speaker 2: the questioners given Thursday's GDP number? What happens next? The

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Speaker 2: great suburban game of do you fix or float? Very

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Speaker 2: much alive The Reserve Bank last time indicated that matters

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Speaker 2: were in hand. They were neither here nor thereover any

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Speaker 2: more rate cuts, but in general things took time to

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Speaker 2: flow through to you and me. In other words, the

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Speaker 2: previous cuts would take time to arrive in our back pocket.

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Speaker 2: When they did, we would feel good and life would blossom.

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Speaker 2: Hence the cuts would be over. Others are argue, even

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Speaker 2: if that's true, look at the economic readings of last week,

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Speaker 2: the manufacturing, the services sector there going backwards, and the

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Speaker 2: dark days of winter have only just arrived. And that's

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Speaker 2: before you get to this two part bit of the

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Speaker 2: economy with farmers booming and everyone else seemingly miserable. Then

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Speaker 2: GDP zero point eight. I mean that alone would stop

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Speaker 2: a reserve bank in its tracks. Look, they will say,

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Speaker 2: plenty of growth and good times there, and our moves

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Speaker 2: have barely begun to sink in. So the point being,

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Speaker 2: if July comes and they don't move, and August comes

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Speaker 2: and they don't move, is it over? And if it's

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Speaker 2: over is what the banks are currently offering as good

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Speaker 2: as it gets. The banks are full of noise right now,

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Speaker 2: reminding us all about how fabulous it is compared to

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Speaker 2: what it was. I mean, asb say, a one year

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Speaker 2: fixed right now is two and a half percent lower

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Speaker 2: than it was eighteen months ago. You half a million bucks.

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Speaker 2: You're almost one thousand dollars a month better off. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of dough twelve and a half thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a year. Yes, it's going on your rates and your

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Speaker 2: insurance and power because they're screwing you, but you can't

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Speaker 2: argue you're not materially better off. All that's left if

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Speaker 2: that's the case, is in bank competition as they jostle

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Speaker 2: for market Cheran. Despite what the Consumers Institute and Niccola

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Speaker 2: will tell you, there is competition and banks do and

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Speaker 2: will do deals. But the next trick is if this

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Speaker 2: is it, this is your new normal, welcome to it.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel, how do you feel like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: of these the good times and you want to spend

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Speaker 2: a bit of money. That is the great economic conundrum,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. That is the psychology of an economy and

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Speaker 2: the great potentially saving grace for a government.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: For a while it looked like we might have winners,

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Speaker 2: winners everywhere. The Israelis had one.

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Speaker 3: Although tenuous, this ceasefire has been accepted and embraced by

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Speaker 3: the Israelis. The IDF has met all of its objectives.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Iranians had won.

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Speaker 3: We continued to punish the Israelis until the very last minute.

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Speaker 3: Assure as this presenter.

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Speaker 2: Artash fas now yeah, even though post the soculs is

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Speaker 2: fire both sides are thought firing off a few last

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Speaker 2: minute rockets was a good ideas it was uttered destruction,

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Speaker 2: no walls, the ceiling fell down. Anya says, all the

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Speaker 2: furniture is gone, everything is on the floor. It's like

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Speaker 2: a nightmare. But I'm given this as the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: That was about as good as a gold which which

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Speaker 2: didn't Mike Donald happy.

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Speaker 4: I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,

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Speaker 4: now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in

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Speaker 4: the first hour. It just drop everything you have on it.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not happy with them. We basically have two

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Speaker 4: countries that have been fighting so long and so hard

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Speaker 2: That at which point he got on the helicopter and

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Speaker 2: then onto the plane and he's literally just touched down

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Speaker 2: a knight. Ok, he is already there. Of course, they

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Speaker 2: have a hopeful the ceasefire does hold.

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Speaker 5: That CEASFI creates the space for what needs to happen next,

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Speaker 5: which is the negotiations to ensure that Iran does not

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Speaker 2: But as we say, this is the Middle East, and

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Speaker 2: this is it is going to be.

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Speaker 6: I think somewhat of a problematic actor because Trump's record

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Speaker 6: insurance as well as compliance with seats, fires, with agreement

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Speaker 6: and deals hasn't been exactly all bust.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Bezos wedding update. We held the phone party the

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Speaker 2: other day on his yacht, but that's not the main news.

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Speaker 2: Protesters are claiming victory in Venice. He has to swap

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Speaker 2: venues now he was downtown, but the locals burke Ken

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Speaker 2: a lot of interest at the airport too, is two

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Speaker 2: two hundred invited guests. At least a few dozen of

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Speaker 2: them are going to be arriving on their own planes,

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Speaker 2: so private jets. We've got a few flash yots. Undoubtedly,

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Speaker 2: five hotels have been fully booked out. There are rumors

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Speaker 2: that former US Marines have been him for security. Joe

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Speaker 2: McKenna is there and it's going to give us the

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Speaker 2: skinning tomorrow and mentime that his news of the world

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Speaker 2: in month. Good job us in the UK that Starma

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Speaker 2: would have been very happy about. Amazon have announced that

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Speaker 2: they're investing eighty million over the next three years and

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Speaker 2: new warehouses and upgrading their existing operations. So the government

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Speaker 2: were all over that. In TikTok they planned to open

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Speaker 2: a new one hundred and thirty five thousand square foot

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Speaker 2: office in London as well. So times are good in Britain.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Sippy fun fact. I didn't know. Heat remains the deadliest

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Speaker 2: ninety six degrees fahrenheit, thirty five degrees hotest stay since

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Speaker 7: Morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How many updates to fletch your building? You want to

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Speaker 2: give the world that's bad news?

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, yes, so yeah, bringing it back home

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Speaker 8: because I mean overnight share markets have rallied Oil's tank.

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Speaker 8: What Middle East problem like? What is that Middle East

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Speaker 8: problem anyway. Bringing it back home Fletcher Building, yet going

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Speaker 8: on under the hood. At Fletcher's they held an invested

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Speaker 8: day yesterday. Look a fair chunk of what's happening has

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Speaker 8: already been disclosed to the market, but we got a

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Speaker 8: lot more detail. We've got a lot more commentary release yesterday.

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Speaker 8: And look, Fletcher Building is important for the share market.

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Speaker 8: It's a big it's an important company in New Zealand.

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Speaker 8: The share price at the end of the day did

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Speaker 8: fall at eleven cents. It's now below three dollars again,

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Speaker 8: so it's still a tough hold for shareholders. But what

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Speaker 8: have we got at Fletcher's. We've got new CEO, new

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Speaker 8: board chair Peter Crowley. The board has been refreshed, The

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Speaker 8: executive team looks like it's got some new faces in there.

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Speaker 8: They are clearing the decks now, we hope. In terms

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Speaker 8: of provisions and impairments. There's a bunch of legacy issues

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Speaker 8: there and they're not in consequential issues. But in the presentation,

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Speaker 8: yes they might. They released a lot of stuff. One

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Speaker 8: comment stood out for me which said lessons have been learnt,

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Speaker 8: So this does seem to be We hope an authentic

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Speaker 8: self review or strategic review looking for their discovers. I mean,

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Speaker 8: this is sort of a turnaround story. They're talking of

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Speaker 8: a simplified business going forward, focusing on manufacturing and distribution

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Speaker 8: of building products and materials. They're not going to pay

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Speaker 8: any dividends until they meet a prescribed debt, which.

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Speaker 7: Is quite a wide.

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Speaker 8: Range four hundred million to nine hundred million. They're a

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Speaker 8: long way above that at the moment. But yes, yesterday,

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Speaker 8: total significant items to be announced as part of the

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Speaker 8: financial year twenty five results are expected to be between

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Speaker 8: five hundred and seventy three and seven hundred and eighty

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Speaker 9: Big numbers, Mike.

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Speaker 8: We look forward to the day when we get a

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Speaker 8: Fletcher Building results that.

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Speaker 9: Doesn't have impairments and provisions.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of information releasess they're going to

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Speaker 8: have to work for all that.

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Speaker 9: Look, it's been a battle.

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Speaker 8: There are still questions around the construction division and what

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Speaker 8: happens there. But Mike, let's have glasshouse full here. They've

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Speaker 8: now got a clear plan. We just need to see

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Speaker 8: evidence that it is being executed.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about a glass overflowing. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: you for a moment, and I cannot tell you how

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Speaker 2: excited I am for you personally, because you're one of

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Speaker 2: the nicest guys in the world and you deserve this.

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Speaker 2: Also Sure and Partners, who have bought you you can

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Speaker 2: explain this. But Sure and Partners sponsor f One, They

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Speaker 2: sponsor Feenie and Will Brown, the Triple Eights, and anyone

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Speaker 2: who's into supercars as a winner in my book. There

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Speaker 8: Yes, So, yes, it's always hard to talking about yourself,

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Speaker 8: isn't it. Yes, We're gonna have a name change, Mike.

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Speaker 8: Not immediately, but at some point we will change our

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Speaker 8: name for Sure and Partners. We announced yesterday that Investment

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Speaker 8: Services Group, which is the holding company that owns j

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Speaker 8: my wealth and by way of disclosure, I am a

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Speaker 8: of that business too. Shore and Partners there. They're pre

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Speaker 8: eminent investment advice and wealth management fund in Australia. Their

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Speaker 8: presence there, they've got TransTasman ambitions which have now been

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Speaker 8: realized are they're a boutique investment term firm there. In turn,

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Speaker 8: they're owned by they run by Global Financial Group EFG International,

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Speaker 8: they're Swiss based, listed on the Swiss Exchange. They've got

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Speaker 8: all the results and scope behind there. That business is

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Speaker 8: about three hundred and thirty billion dollars worth of assets

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Speaker 8: under management, share and partners thirty five billion of assets

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Speaker 8: under management. The addition of ISG that'll take that over

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Speaker 8: forty billion. Look, Mike, it's an absolutely wonderful fit for

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Speaker 8: j my wealth. We were very keen to ensure that

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Speaker 8: we had continuity for all of our staff. That was

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Speaker 8: really important. Continuity of all the senior staff. Sort of

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Speaker 8: business as usual for our clients, just with sort of

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Speaker 8: more omph in the background. It's not a private equity transaction.

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Speaker 8: Everybody is in this for the long term. We're all invigorated,

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Speaker 8: we're all energized. It's a new name into.

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Speaker 9: The New Zealand investment of financial market landscape. Yes, but

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Speaker 9: you're absolutely right, Mike.

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Speaker 8: Key observers, those Key night observers will recognize the brand.

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Speaker 8: It's on the Supercars, the Red Bull Team, Manly Sea Eagles.

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Speaker 8: That's going to make the Warriors Sea Eagles games sort

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Speaker 8: of a little bit more spicy, isn't it new to Grain?

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Speaker 9: Heavily involved in giving back to the community.

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Speaker 8: We hope to replicate that here. Look, it's sad to

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Speaker 8: see the j my wealth name retired.

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Speaker 7: But change is good, Mike.

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Speaker 8: Change is good, and we'll continue to do what we've

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Speaker 8: always done, which is deliver quality advice to our clients,

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Speaker 8: putting their interest first with a long term view.

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Speaker 9: What does it like, it's investing for generations.

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Speaker 10: Love it.

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Speaker 2: There you go. You'll be able to get on and

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Speaker 2: is well worth watching. Transfer of Wealth in the Rural Sector,

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Speaker 2: shortly twenty three minutes away from seven very interesting insights

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Speaker 2: into the rural sector from Rabobanks. So their report looks

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Speaker 2: into succession and the massive transfer of wealth that is

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Speaker 2: heading this country's way over the next few years. Over

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Speaker 2: half our farm and orchard owners are going to reach

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Speaker 2: Todd Chatteris is the CEO of Rabobanking as well us

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Speaker 2: Todd Morning.

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Speaker 10: Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 7: I am very well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I read the report and what the best line

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Speaker 2: What you're telling me with the numbers is most people

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's yeah, that's what the research is showing. And

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Speaker 2: I guess when you talk about the retirement age, does

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Speaker 16: No. I think that's what we need to put in context,

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Speaker 16: So it's the age of sixty five is what we

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Speaker 16: Well, look, I think there's still that emotional tie for

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Speaker 16: a lot of farming families in New Zealand, and you

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Speaker 10: So that the capital.

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Speaker 16: Requirement is a big amount nowadays. So what we're seeing is,

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Speaker 16: I think, and opportunities around different ownership models. So and

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Speaker 16: I think that's that's something that we need to continue

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Speaker 16: Oh, we think we've seen some really great examples, and

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Speaker 2: How much of it is connection versus just pure ownership,

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Speaker 2: it's an asset, I'm moving it on.

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Speaker 17: Oh.

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Speaker 16: Look, I think it's a combination. I think it's a combination,

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Speaker 16: and there's no one model fits all right, And for

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Speaker 16: go to the land, And it's just how we facilitate

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got you. What's the vibe. I mean, is

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Speaker 16: Oh, I know, things are pretty good, Mike. There's a

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Speaker 10: Doubt about it. And the sector's doing really well.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to, you appreciate it. Todd

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy would collapse, Mike without agricultural exports.

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Speaker 2: Of greater concerns are the erosion of pastoral land, of

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Speaker 2: carbon credit forestry. I'd agree with that, but I think

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Speaker 2: the government they claim they're onto it, and the willingness

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Speaker 2: of the next generations to take over hard work occupation.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right on that, Don as well. I

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Speaker 2: watched Country Calendar, a massive high country farm, huge height,

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Speaker 2: hundreds and and hundreds of hectores, many of which they

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Speaker 2: put back into natives, which is good. But every time

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Speaker 2: you see a program like that, they're saying, we love it,

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Speaker 2: We'll do nothing else. I think maybe you're born to it.

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Speaker 11: Six forty five International Correspondence with ends an eye Insurance

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Speaker 11: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: To add Richard Arnold morning, good morning making So he

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Speaker 2: touched down not long ago, great expectation at NATO.

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Speaker 18: Set for a victory, lapplied Trump at the summit. There After,

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Speaker 18: of course, Trump cursed Israel and Iran and pushed for

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Speaker 18: the ceasefire to take hold. Trump then tag this fighting

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Speaker 18: as the twelve day war. He loves those names, doesn't

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Speaker 18: he those nicknames, those marketing efforts. He has made no

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Speaker 18: secret that he wants a Nobel Peace Prize, just like

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Speaker 18: Obama and says it was a quote great honor to

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Speaker 18: stop the war. Sounds like he's already getting ready for

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Speaker 18: the acceptance speech, and said on his flight to Europe

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Speaker 18: that he believes he has set aside the Iranian nuclear threats.

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Speaker 19: All right, sucker, have a nuclear wapick by the lad I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's the last thing in their.

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Speaker 18: Own Well, it's really going to take a while before

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Speaker 18: assessments like this can be made that are solid. ADDIEY Blincoln,

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Speaker 18: the former Secretary of State under Biden, has an opbed

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Speaker 18: out in the New York Times right now, calling the

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Speaker 18: US strike a mistake, warning that Iran could rebuild this

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Speaker 18: nuclear program quickly. Time will tell as to who is

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Speaker 18: playing who now. It's been It's been turbulent, hasn't it.

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Speaker 18: The Washington Post is Israel's Nettanno, who decided on war

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Speaker 18: with Iran last year and then sought to recruit Trump.

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Speaker 18: Ties between Netaniahu and Trump have been become very intense

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Speaker 18: in recent hours, as Trump announced in an Israeli Iranian

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Speaker 18: cease fire with the two Middle Eastern foes trying to

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Speaker 18: get in some last licks. Cutter was instrumental in arranging

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Speaker 18: this this deal. Then Iran shot nineteen missiles at the

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Speaker 18: US base at Al U Daid and Cutter eighteen of

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Speaker 18: these missiles were intercepted, the other did no damage. The

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Speaker 18: Iranians let Kunta know the missiles were on the way,

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Speaker 18: and they told the Americans. So this was more a

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Speaker 18: face saving response by Iran than much else. Then, in

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Speaker 18: the final hours, I run here the housing block in

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Speaker 18: Bisheba and Israel in that last dash, killing four people,

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Speaker 18: and Israel launched one of their biggest assaults on Tehran itself,

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Speaker 18: all before the ceasefire deadline. This teed off Trump, as

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Speaker 18: we've been hearing, he said.

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Speaker 4: Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came

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Speaker 4: out and they dropped a load of Bob's the likes

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Speaker 4: of which I've never seen before. When I say, okay,

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Speaker 4: now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in

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Speaker 4: the first hour, it just drop everything you have on them.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with

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Speaker 4: Iran either well.

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Speaker 18: Israel sought to respond to the Ersheba attack, but this

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Speaker 18: was after the deadline, and then they claimed they intercepted

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Speaker 18: I Ruani missiles in the north of the country fired

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Speaker 18: by a run after the ceasefire. Mark Trump then rolled

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Speaker 18: out that verbal curse on both sides, saying the two

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Speaker 18: violated the deal and then adding famously, we.

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Speaker 4: Basically have two countries that have been fighting so long

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Speaker 4: and so hard that they don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't know what the f they're doing. Trump

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Speaker 18: called NTNYA, who as more Israeli bombers were on route

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Speaker 18: to Tehran, and we now have some details of that conversation.

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Speaker 18: Trump told the Israeli leader in direct terms to abort

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Speaker 18: the mission Latino, who told Trump he could not because

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Speaker 18: Iran had violated the ceasefire, but at the closed Natano

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Speaker 18: who said he would scale back the attack from a

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Speaker 18: dozen targets to one radar site outside of Tehran. So

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Speaker 18: that's a compromise way Israel, but also a slight repudiation

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Speaker 18: of Trump, right. President Trump then posted on his own

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Speaker 18: social media site quote, Israel is not going to attack Iran.

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Speaker 18: All planes will turn around and head home, while doing

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Speaker 18: a friendly play wave towards Iran. The ceasefire as it defect,

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Speaker 18: said Trump, at least for now, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, man, catch up. So Richard Arnold state side. Lux's there,

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Speaker 2: of course and part of a group of four, three

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Speaker 2: of which you're missing. So he's sort of Nigel Nomades

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Speaker 2: in that particular part of the world. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's probably better to be there than not to be there.

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins, by the way, after seventh thirty this morning

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Speaker 2: in other matters, but we'll touch on that with her.

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Speaker 2: By the way, fire up the deportation plane. Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: came to Trump's aid yesterday allowing him to resume the

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Speaker 2: quick deportations of certain immigrants to certain country. So he

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Speaker 2: seems to have cli So the Albania thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the UK and Italy have been looking to do it,

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Speaker 2: and they've been tied up in courts, and obviously the

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Speaker 2: Americans have been tied up in courts. But the American

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Speaker 2: court seems to side with Trump. The liberals on the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court said no way, so to my assert I

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Speaker 2: cannot join. So gross an abuse of the Court's equitable discretion.

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Speaker 2: But the Tricia McLaughlin, who's the Assistant Deputy Secretary of

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Speaker 2: Homeland security said, fire up the deportation plane. So that's

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Speaker 2: a win America. I note another fun fact, for the

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Speaker 2: first time at least fifty years, it's entirely possible. By

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, more people will have left

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Speaker 2: America than a riot. So that tells you something, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, another fun fact, the Republican Party

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Speaker 2: at the moment entered June with seventy two million dollars

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Speaker 2: on hand. This is the build up to midterms next year.

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Speaker 2: That'll that, my god, that'll be a fascinating one. He's

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Speaker 2: got next to no majority and if he loses that,

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Speaker 2: he's lame duck. So they enter the midterms with seventy

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Speaker 2: two million versus the Democrats at fifteen million, so at

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Speaker 2: least they got the money.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven the Mike Hosty Breakfast with the Defenders.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Mike even you'd have to agree Trump's a

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Speaker 2: force of nature. Yeah, I do. My great sadness with

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Speaker 2: Trump is that the madness out shines the cleverness, of

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Speaker 2: which there is much speaking of which, after we got

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Speaker 2: off the phone, Nittnya, who's hit Israeli television.

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Speaker 19: Even that we have tremendous achievements. We are not going

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Speaker 19: to be complacement. We're going to be the other way around.

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Speaker 19: We have no intention to remove our from the from

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Speaker 19: the gas. We're going to going to defeats and bring

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Speaker 19: back the ostriches and the ogs. I'm saying, we didn't

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Speaker 19: stop even for a seconds.

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Speaker 1: And the outs. It's the fiz with business fiber. Take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Just me or that interpret really should be fearing a

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Speaker 2: job review, mean, come off. So job market decent news

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Speaker 2: seek employment report this morning Quarterly Advertised Salary Index for May.

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Speaker 2: What have we got? We've got job adds down two

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Speaker 2: percent month on month, eight percent year on year. That's goodish.

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Speaker 2: The goodish bit about that is it's the slowest decline

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Speaker 2: in job add volume over the two years, so that's

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Speaker 2: encouraging a lot of people want what is out there?

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Speaker 2: Though extremely quote unquote extremely high levels of competition for

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Speaker 2: these jobs. Applications for job are at a peak again,

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Speaker 2: up two percent month on month. Three regions have got

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Speaker 2: lots of jobs comparatively, Taranaki up six percent, Southland up one,

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Speaker 2: Wellington up two. That's Wellington's first aniel rise in two

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Speaker 2: and a half years. So go Wellington, Marlborough beigcause month

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Speaker 2: on month dropped. This is a bit. These will be

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Speaker 2: noisy numbers for a monthly something will happen, someone will

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Speaker 2: have closed the door, or something made anyway, month or

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Speaker 2: month in Marlborough down sixteen went up twenty two in month.

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Speaker 2: You see what I're saying. You're up, you down, You're

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Speaker 2: all over the place. Big drops and job ads. Also

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Speaker 2: in Gisbon down eight, otigo six month or two five

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Speaker 2: often four sectors that had the most growth. Consulting in strategy,

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Speaker 2: whatever the hell that is up twenty nine percent, Science

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Speaker 2: and tech ten. So you know where you're at with science,

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Speaker 2: aren't you? In consulting and strategy. I'm consulting in strategy

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Speaker 2: because drops in mining and energy. Shame or fix that

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Speaker 2: down sixteen percent. Media and advertising. Don't think anyone's going

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Speaker 2: to fix that down thirteen, Information and comms down fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Money you want some money? Advertised salary growth is up

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Speaker 2: zero point six on the quarter, So annualize that out

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Speaker 2: two point four for the year. You'll take it, won't you.

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Speaker 2: Year on year it's down still two point four though.

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Speaker 2: Salary growth North Ireland better than the South Island. Also

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Speaker 2: outside the major centers. Maybe that's a catchup because I

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Speaker 2: would have thought the money was in the South Island.

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Speaker 2: Given all this is happening in the South Island, Auk

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Speaker 2: from zero point six, Canterby zero point five, Welling from

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Speaker 2: zero point four, Rest of the North up zero point eight,

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Speaker 2: Rest of the South zero point eight. Biggest quarterly growth

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Speaker 2: sector science and tech, real estate, mining and energy annualized

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Speaker 2: out year on year, Science and tech salaries are up

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Speaker 2: eight point eight, real estate eight point four, mining and

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Speaker 2: energy six point three. Only media and advertising, human resources

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Speaker 2: and recruitment y're on year. Drops told you of the

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Speaker 2: media stuff.

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Speaker 15: So given that I'm the technical.

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Speaker 2: Remind no, you're not, do you reckon?

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Speaker 15: I could just move things what you.

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Speaker 2: Are, mate, It's lucky to be here. Never forget that.

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Speaker 2: The Westpac McDermott Miller Confidence Survey on employment, which is

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Speaker 2: separate to what I just gave you, is up zero

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Speaker 2: point five points to eighty eight point eight. You need

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Speaker 2: one hundred to be positive. So things are lagging a

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Speaker 2: little bit in the old job market. But then again,

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Speaker 2: economically speaking, that's always been the case, hasn't it. Stand

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Speaker 2: By users.

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Speaker 1: Next the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the know.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be seven past seven. Well it is the

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Speaker 2: Middle East after all. The maybe Trump and his voluminous

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Speaker 2: claims yesterday about pace and c spars was always a

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Speaker 2: little bit optimistic, multiple claims of breaches already, but there

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Speaker 2: was a fragile hole that seems as we speak at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Dr Max Schmidt is the Associate Professor of

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Speaker 2: National Security at the un visited New Haven and as

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Speaker 2: well as Matthew Morning to you, Good morning. So we're

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Speaker 2: seeing a little bit of tip for tet Will it sattle?

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Speaker 2: Do you think? Orways yesterday a bit of a false dorm.

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Speaker 20: No, I think it will settle. I think it's best

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Speaker 20: to understand Israel's strike on that radar system is a

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Speaker 20: sort of oh whoa, we forgot this one, or they're

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Speaker 20: spinning up the radar and we can see it now,

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Speaker 20: and it's important for us tactically to take it out

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Speaker 20: just in case.

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Speaker 2: Where do you reckon Iran?

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Speaker 10: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is this a cease file or is this look we've

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Speaker 2: been bombed badly. We're out of mo from now. We

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Speaker 2: need to do something, so give us a couple of diyes.

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Speaker 15: E.

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Speaker 20: Ron's in an interesting position. They have very little to

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Speaker 20: retaliate with. It's unclear exactly how many ballistic missiles, for instance,

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Speaker 20: that remain in their inventory. Probably very few, well fewer

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Speaker 20: than a thousands. At this point. They can't fire everything

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Speaker 20: because then they have no deterrence. So it's in there

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Speaker 20: incentive to keep everybody guessing, although I'm pretty sure that

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Speaker 20: Israel doesn't need to guess that much. So they need

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Speaker 20: to bring this down for their own sake. And the

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Speaker 20: regime is sitting here looking at the coming days and

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Speaker 20: weeks as a question of its own survival.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching no shortage of people telling me regime change

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Speaker 2: is a real possibility, has been for some time. This

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Speaker 2: could be the tipping point. What's your view.

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Speaker 20: I think that we are at a point where it's

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Speaker 20: more likely than it has been since nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 20: I think the default position is still that regime change

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Speaker 20: is difficult. There are a lot of reasons why the

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Speaker 20: regime may collapse, but there are not a lot of

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Speaker 20: people who can stand in place and take over leadership.

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Speaker 20: The opposition in Iran is fractured, there isn't a clear leader.

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Speaker 20: Someone could still emerge, but there's a lot of risks

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Speaker 20: to doing that, and the regime hasn't lost its capacity

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Speaker 20: to repress citizens. So you know, as long as those

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Speaker 20: factors are still in play, I think the expectation is

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Speaker 20: that the regime survives in one form or another.

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Speaker 2: From the American point of view, how critical is the

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Speaker 2: knowledge of the damage they did with the B two's

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Speaker 2: or are they Is it one and done and they're

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Speaker 2: out in the meta walk?

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Speaker 20: I think the knowledge is important. I think there's more

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Speaker 20: out there than we know in the public, probably from

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Speaker 20: the Israelis.

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Speaker 2: So you know.

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Speaker 20: The other situation here is is the capability exists and

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Speaker 20: the president's been set to go in and bomb, so

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Speaker 20: there's no hard reason to go back and do this

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Speaker 20: today or tomorrow or even this year. It definitely has

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Speaker 20: set back the program, you know, several years, and so

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Speaker 20: you can sit back and wait and you can always

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Speaker 20: take another shot later. I don't see the US coming

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Speaker 20: in anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your experctise very much, doctor Matchmidt, SSSI, Professor of

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Speaker 2: National Security at the University. And you have in the

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Speaker 2: markets are up and oil is down ten minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: I'm trouble in the old school. We've got some new

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Speaker 2: numbers out this morning. What do we make of them?

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Speaker 2: Five hundred and twenty six kids were caught bringing weapons

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Speaker 2: to school last year, which is eighty percent up on

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. So twenty eighteen so seven years. Three hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy five of these kids were stood down, forty

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Speaker 2: were excluded from school. Louise Honore is the principal of

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Speaker 2: Cantan College, also the president of the Secondary Principal's Association.

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Speaker 2: Louise Morning, Good morning, Way. So there's two hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty one high schools in this country according to chat GPT,

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Speaker 2: So you've got five hundred and twenty six kids in

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty one schools. Would most schools have

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Speaker 2: seen an incident of a weapon in some way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form. Do you think.

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Speaker 21: It's really difficult to know. It's difficult to know. That's

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Speaker 21: from the data as well. I can speak from my

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Speaker 21: own experience, Like over the thirty years in education, I've

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Speaker 21: come across a few situations when a child has bought

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Speaker 21: a weapon into school. There hasn't been intent to use it,

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Speaker 21: you know, So my hunches is that it's more about

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Speaker 21: out possession of rather than attempt to use. But we

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Speaker 21: just don't notice from the data, mate.

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Speaker 2: Do we have basic what's a weapon? I mean as

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Speaker 2: a stick, a weapon versus a BB gun, versus a knife,

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Speaker 2: all of the above.

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Speaker 21: So really it's about if it's just if it's been

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Speaker 21: used to cause harm, and it could be a range

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Speaker 21: of things, but again I would think it would be

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Speaker 21: more around the ones that you've just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask, is it I mean the

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Speaker 2: way that schools deal with it. If a kid brings

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Speaker 2: a BB gun and go, oh, look, it's my birthday.

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Speaker 2: I brought my BB gun, It's like, is that even

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Speaker 2: a thing? It's like the kids bringing his birthday present.

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Speaker 2: I brought it. I took a knife, Louise to school

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid, right because my grandparents gave

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Speaker 2: me a knife and I took it to school. Guys said,

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Speaker 2: look of a knife. I wasn't going to do anything

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Speaker 2: with it. But it's like, you know, has anything changed exactly?

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Speaker 21: And I think that's what we're talking about here. But again,

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Speaker 21: we really to get more detailed to make sense of

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Speaker 21: the data. But in my experience that the situations I've

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Speaker 21: come across, it's been situations like that. He hasn't been intent,

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Speaker 21: but I've still taken it really seriously in those contexts

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Speaker 21: because it's important to get there's the message out that

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Speaker 21: that can cause harm and to take a real strong

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Speaker 21: stance on it just because of the risk involved. There

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Speaker 21: is an intent, but in the worst case scenario, it

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Speaker 21: can cause serious harm to our young people.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, Louise go Well Louise Anau

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Speaker 2: who is the Union principle but also she works at

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Speaker 2: Kaitaia at the Union head and works at kay Tier College.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes past seven pasking what my lunch with Andrew

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Speaker 2: callaher the ongoing bit for the year. I said, he's

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Speaker 2: claiming seven Let's say he's right. So he sold his

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Speaker 2: company yesterday and so he's a happy man. So I

752
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Speaker 2: want to I want to join in that joy, he claims.

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Speaker 2: I said seven percent. I said seven percent growth of

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Speaker 2: houses this year. As I sit here this late June morning,

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Speaker 2: I am in deep fear that I'm losing this bet.

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Speaker 2: And B and Z came out yesterday with a readjustment

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Speaker 2: of their housing forecast for the year. They thought five

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Speaker 2: to seven, so even at seven, I was optimistic. According

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Speaker 2: to BMZ they're now down to two to four, so

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm paying but that's okay, But I'd like

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Speaker 2: the housing market to grow just a little bit more

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Speaker 2: ADHD more. Shortly fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The hike Asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: I've still got the knife, by the way, all these

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Speaker 2: years later, treat No, I hadn't brought it into work,

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Speaker 2: but I could. If you want to see it, I'll

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Speaker 2: show you my knife, Mike. Those stats are indicative of

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Speaker 2: an eighty percent increase in narks seventeen past seven right

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Speaker 2: from early next year. GP is going to be able

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Speaker 2: to help you with the ADHD trouble until now as

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Speaker 2: you need a psych and give them the runt. Enough

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Speaker 2: of them. There's a backlog. So Doctor Luke Bradford is

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Speaker 2: the medical Director of the Royal College of GPS and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Luke morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Good move.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we believe it is. It will help people access

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Speaker 14: diagnosis and treatment, make it quicker and more affordable.

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Speaker 2: How realistic was the psyche in the process anyway, or

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Speaker 2: was it more a box ticking exercise by somebody perceived

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Speaker 2: to be higher up the latter.

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Speaker 14: No, it got brought in in the nineteen nineties because

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Speaker 14: of a fear that the stimulants were being diverted and

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Speaker 14: abused as a street drug, which has been shown not

786
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Speaker 14: to be the case. It is quite a complicated diagnosis.

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Speaker 14: It takes sort of upwards of an hour to get

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Speaker 14: through the whole process, So that's where it's sort of

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Speaker 14: sat with psychiatry.

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Speaker 2: Are the gps able to do it and do it comfortably?

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Speaker 14: So we're it will be under sort of a specialist

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Speaker 14: interest type GP, so it'll be a particular appointment. It

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Speaker 14: will be a much longer appointment, and these gps will

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Speaker 14: have to upskill do some training courses, much the same

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Speaker 14: way as if you went to see a GP to

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Speaker 14: have a skin can to removed. It would been a

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Speaker 14: gpu'd up skill to do that.

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Speaker 2: Right. Are we finally getting to this because there was

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Speaker 2: movement around the x IS to certain drugs, there's now

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Speaker 2: this change coming. Are we finally dealing with ADHD in

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Speaker 2: a way we probably should have been for quite a while.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I think there's a lot more awareness of where it

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Speaker 14: is in society and probably the harm its cause, and

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Speaker 14: we see it through corrections massively and through MSD stats,

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Speaker 14: but it's been underdiagnosed and undermanaged, especially in some groups.

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Speaker 14: I think there probably is a bit of a danger,

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Speaker 14: but it's also become a bit stady through the TikTok

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Speaker 14: type generation, and we just have to make sure that

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Speaker 14: the assessment process is really rigorous for that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Go well, look, appreciate it. Look. Bradford, who's Royal and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand College of General Practitioners a note ironically in

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Speaker 2: to the performance of David Seymour as the fill and

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Speaker 2: I know in the past few weeks as he celebrated

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Speaker 2: his ninetieth is still prone to the odd piece of

865
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Speaker 2: public commentary. Might like to have pondered his own role

866
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Speaker 2: in this many many, many years ago when they started

867
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Speaker 2: to put a few road markers around time frames. Now,

868
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Speaker 2: the idea, if you went around at the time, you

869
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Speaker 2: can't remember. The idea was they would set a date

870
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Speaker 2: to file your claim, remembering even in Boldes's day, the

871
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Speaker 2: wait Tangi Tribunal had been going since the seventies for

872
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Speaker 2: goodness sake, and once you filed that claim they would

873
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Speaker 2: impose another deadline to get it all wrapped up. Good idea,

874
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Speaker 2: but it went nowhere because Bolgier and co. Got sucked

875
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Speaker 2: into the idea. This was unfair, It was rushed, It

876
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Speaker 2: was history. What wasn't set out loud, of course, is

877
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Speaker 2: this was a gravy train that could go on literally forever,

878
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Speaker 2: and people were going to make a living out of it.

879
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: As Jones revealed yesterday, twenty million dollars for Nia Napooi alone,

880
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Speaker 2: just for lunch in chats and airfares. Do remember nineteen

881
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Speaker 2: seventy five, the start of the wait Tangi Tribunal was

882
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Speaker 2: a good will gesture, the tribunal, the settlement of grievances

883
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: was entered into not because anyone had to, but because

884
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Speaker 2: it was the right thing to do. It was driven

885
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Speaker 2: by goodwill. I would have thought it was fairly obvious,

886
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Speaker 2: and the vast array of deals to be done and

887
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: the apologies to be made like life. Some would embrace

888
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Speaker 2: it and run with it. Some would be unable to

889
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Speaker 2: get out of their own way. What was needed but

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Speaker 2: was missing still is Jones aside, was leadership, the setting

891
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Speaker 2: of the boundaries, the explanation of the rules and expectations.

892
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Speaker 2: And because that was missing, so I was twenty million

893
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Speaker 2: on lunch and still no deal.

894
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Speaker 1: Pasking.

895
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Speaker 2: So Audrey Young, the fabulous Audery Young this morning rates

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Speaker 2: and Prime Minister David Seymour, not deputy well deputy prime Minister,

897
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Speaker 2: but fill and prime Minister. She gives him a rating

898
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Speaker 2: for question time yesterday. It was his first question time

899
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Speaker 2: as the fill in prime Minister. He got a seven.

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Speaker 2: I probably would have gone to an eight, but I

901
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Speaker 2: am just generous like that, and Audrey is hard so

902
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Speaker 2: anyway seven or eight, but we broadly agree. Switched seamlessly,

903
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Speaker 2: she says, writing in the Herald this morning, switched seamlessly

904
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Speaker 2: from one subject to another, wit as quick as longie

905
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Speaker 2: pair of fangs, as mean as Muldoon Middle Least regulatory

906
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Speaker 2: standards Bill Napooe settlement, cost of living, Cork Island's agreement

907
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Speaker 2: with China, comments made in the UK about smokers and smoking.

908
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Speaker 2: Laurie dealt with it all. It's very very good. I

909
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Speaker 2: thought he was very good, very measured, moderately funny every

910
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Speaker 2: now and again. The Simian line that I referenced to

911
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Speaker 2: a moment ago very clever. She also writes his press

912
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Speaker 2: conference Monday, which I happened to watch as well. So

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Speaker 2: Audrey and I are the two saddest people in the country,

914
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Speaker 2: but nevertheless we enjoy ourselves and we're happy in our

915
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Speaker 2: own skin. She gave him an eight. I gave it

916
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Speaker 2: at least an eight. He was good humored about it.

917
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Speaker 2: The media were trying to get him. Their question line

918
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Speaker 2: was interesting in that needle needle needle log you told

919
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Speaker 2: say something random kind of way didn't fall for it.

920
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: I note there's a couple of people in the gallery

921
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Speaker 2: who I will not name, because once again I'm a

922
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Speaker 2: nice guy, who were desperate to get a few questions

923
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Speaker 2: and and David deliberately, I'm almost certain, deliberately ignored them

924
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Speaker 2: so he didn't have to roll his eyes and go,

925
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Speaker 2: you're a dickhead, stop asking silly questions. So they didn't

926
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Speaker 2: get a question. But overall, I think as a prime minister,

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Speaker 2: now here's my take, I can see this is a

928
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Speaker 2: very blessed government in terms of ten Helen Peters has

929
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Speaker 2: got natural institutional history, legacy, and a sense of awareness

930
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Speaker 2: about him that makes him a valued member. Seymour's exceedingly bright,

931
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Speaker 2: although slightly wonkish at times, and that's why Luxon isn't

932
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Speaker 2: seen in the light he should be, because Luxon against

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Speaker 2: those two doesn't look that flash. Hence the Poles tell

934
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Speaker 2: you the story. I like lux and Luxon is better

935
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Speaker 2: than some people perceive him to be. But when you

936
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Speaker 2: compare the three together, you can see why he's got

937
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Speaker 2: some of the problems he has. News in a couple

938
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Speaker 2: of moments, and speaking of leaders and former leaders, Judith

939
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Speaker 2: Collins as the Public Services Ministers.

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Speaker 1: With us your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and

941
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Speaker 1: honored backs. The Mike Hosking Breakfast, We're the Defender, Doctor,

942
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Speaker 1: the most powerful defender ever made and News togs Head

943
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Speaker 1: be look yet.

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Speaker 2: Time, I'll come back to it. I meant to do

945
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Speaker 2: it yesterday. I didn't even have time then. But anyway,

946
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Speaker 2: and on Monday in Austin, Texas, Teesler launched their driver's car. Now,

947
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Speaker 2: the driver's car industry is a cataclysmic cockup at the moment,

948
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Speaker 2: because there's no shortage of people who have given it

949
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Speaker 2: a go, and no shortage of people who have fallen over.

950
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Speaker 2: And I'll give you some of their names and numbers

951
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Speaker 2: around it later on. But Tesla started on Monday. That's

952
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Speaker 2: what I was going to tell you until yesterday when

953
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Speaker 2: it fell apart in the most spectacular fashion. It was

954
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Speaker 2: a complete and utter bust. And the irony of it

955
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Speaker 2: being Elon's been spreaking this for a decade and Monday

956
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Speaker 2: was the day. And Monday could not have gone worse

957
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Speaker 2: for him. But more shortly, twenty three minutes away from

958
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Speaker 2: eight teach now we're back, sadly into the vext and

959
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Speaker 2: nasty world of public paying negotiations as the primary teachers

960
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Speaker 2: are heading to the negotiating table when the nz EI

961
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Speaker 2: says it will get paid back for the pay equity

962
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Speaker 2: cuts apparently, Judith Collins is, of course, the Minister for

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Speaker 2: Public Service and is well, it's very good morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Oh good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Is this the big pay equity test? Is this what

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Speaker 2: this is shaping up to be?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think the unions were making it very clear

968
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Speaker 17: well before the issues came back on to the agenda

969
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Speaker 17: that they were pretty much going to make life very

970
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Speaker 17: difficult for the New Zealand taxpayer and the government. And

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Speaker 17: we expect that there will be quite a lot of

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Speaker 17: strike action, but we're hoping that some common sense will

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Speaker 17: come through because you know, the primary school teachers you

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Speaker 17: just mentioned, with eight years experience, I'm told they can

975
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Speaker 17: earn one hundred and fifteen thousand compluting experience allowances, and

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Speaker 17: of course it's for twelve weeks each year when the

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Speaker 17: schools are closed, so you know it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: It is bad. Glad you're moving the numbers because a

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Speaker 2: couple of the numbers I've learned of late as nurses

980
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Speaker 2: in this country earn well into six figures and teachers

981
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Speaker 2: do too. And I'm not sure there as many New

982
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Speaker 2: Zealanders as much as we love teachers and we do

983
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Speaker 2: that would go. I'll tell you what, that's good money.

984
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Speaker 17: Well, nurse today for six years and more experienced one

985
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Speaker 17: hundred and twenty thousand, one hundred and twenty nine obviously

986
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Speaker 17: includes allowances over time peneral rates, but a lot of

987
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Speaker 17: people in their sole businesses or so traders, they don't

988
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Speaker 17: get anything for allowances over time penal rates. So I

989
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Speaker 17: think it's a pretty good salary, and I think what

990
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Speaker 17: it does say is that nurses are very much respected

991
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Speaker 17: by the not in the government, by New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: As far as the teacher numbers are concerned, and we

993
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Speaker 2: had Erica Stanford on big boom in numbers. Does the

994
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Speaker 2: fact that we're not desperately short of teachers anymore partially

995
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Speaker 2: negate that argument as well?

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Speaker 17: Yes, so, because what I think we've found is that

997
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Speaker 17: over the years it's very easy to have a mentor

998
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Speaker 17: out there such as no, nurses deserve more or teachers

999
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 17: wonderful and let's all pay them more, but without any

1000
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Speaker 17: facts being there. But it is really clear when you

1001
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Speaker 17: look at it, that these are good salaries for professional

1002
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Speaker 17: people who are trying to do their best in their work,

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Speaker 17: and I think that they are. I mean, look when

1004
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Speaker 17: they see school principles up to two hundred ninety thousand

1005
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 17: a year and twelve weeks every year when the schools

1006
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Speaker 17: are closed. No, it's not there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Well keep preaching that message. Would you rather

1008
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: be talking about pay negotiations or space or the military?

1009
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Speaker 2: Where's that hurk by the way? And is it moving

1010
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: now that some of the airspace might be opening up

1011
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: a bit?

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00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, So despite the trolls on social media, just remember

1013
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Speaker 17: that the circus is one year old. It's moving through

1014
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Speaker 17: It goes from a certain bases to certain bases, and

1015
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Speaker 17: it has to operate like that because these are not

1016
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Speaker 17: airline flights. They're not the one These a hercules the

1017
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Speaker 17: military pain so they do take it a while to

1018
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Speaker 17: get there, but they're going well, and giveyone's happy.

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00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: Are we going to be getting a lot of New

1020
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Speaker 2: Zealanders out? And when is that happening? Do we know

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00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: yet or not?

1022
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Speaker 22: Yeah?

1023
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Speaker 17: Well there's been told multiple times now, haven't they over

1024
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 17: the months to get the hell out of places like

1025
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Speaker 17: Iran and as well? And of course people are going

1026
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Speaker 17: to need to get themselves to borders unless airspace opens up.

1027
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Speaker 17: So there's some hope some airspace. But if people think

1028
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Speaker 17: we're going to be taking a hercules into Iran. At

1029
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Speaker 17: the moment, they'd be group. They'd be dreaming, wouldn't they.

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Speaker 2: They would be all right, nice to talk to you.

1031
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Speaker 2: To appreciate it very much. Due to Collins Public Services

1032
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Speaker 2: Minister with a breaking diversion into defense, they're nineteen minutes

1033
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Speaker 2: away from eight task. Mike Teeslas shares are up fourteen

1034
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Speaker 2: percent since Monday. Yeah, let me come back to that.

1035
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: That's the madness of it. As soon as Elon said, hey,

1036
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Speaker 2: we're going to Austin, Texas, all the idiots yet again

1037
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: got sucked and went Oh, Elon said something really interesting.

1038
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Speaker 2: I'll put some of my money into it, only for

1039
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: the cars to drive off the road. So, Mike and

1040
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: your economic prices or in your economy prices going up

1041
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: as bad. Unless it's houses, then it's good, Steve, Yes,

1042
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: because price is going up if you have to pay

1043
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: more for example, because it's it's demand and supply. You

1044
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Speaker 2: don't want house prices going up if you're not building

1045
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: enough houses. I'll grant you that. But equally, you don't

1046
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: want to be paying more rates just for the sake

1047
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Speaker 2: of it. Why are you paying more rates You're getting

1048
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Speaker 2: something more for it. No, you're not just bunch of

1049
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: councilors sat around the table, so you can give me

1050
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Speaker 2: more money. No real reason for it was a house.

1051
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Speaker 2: It's on demand. You might want a better area, better

1052
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Speaker 2: school zone, more desirable, you know. So there's nothing wrong

1053
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Speaker 2: with house prices going.

1054
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Speaker 15: And it's not just houses. You like it when cheese

1055
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Speaker 15: gets expensive.

1056
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Speaker 9: I like it that wool.

1057
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Speaker 2: That's my Jenny Anderson opening question, because yet again I

1058
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Speaker 2: don't want to give too many secrets a way about politics. Wednesday,

1059
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Speaker 2: because yet again, let me ask you this question partly

1060
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Speaker 2: this one before Ginny turns up yet again. Yesterday, Chris

1061
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Speaker 2: Hepkin stands up in the House and as part of

1062
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Speaker 2: question time, he asks the fill and Prime Minister David

1063
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Speaker 2: Seymour about the cost of living crisis that's been brought

1064
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Speaker 2: about by this government because of the price of butter.

1065
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Speaker 2: Now they're not they're two completely separate things.

1066
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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: Is he just trying that on hoping you and I

1068
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Speaker 2: are thick? Or is he thick and he doesn't actually

1069
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Speaker 2: understand what he's asking? Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It be Mike as a teacher. I mean being in

1073
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Speaker 2: a data now. But let's let me give you a flavor.

1074
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Speaker 2: As a teacher, after eight years in the job, you

1075
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Speaker 2: can be paid one hundred and two thousand teacher salary

1076
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Speaker 2: start in the sixties. It takes out years to get

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Speaker 2: to over one hundred thousand. Will you say that in

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00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: a negative way? Think about eight years when's a teacher

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00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: graduate twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one. By the time you're thirty,

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00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: you're on a six figure salary. I mean, it's not bad, Mike.

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00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: People will turn on teachers and nurses very quickly if

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00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: the unions don't pull their heads. And while they're not

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00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: going to, but there is a point in time where

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00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: as much and they run on emotion. Judith is right.

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: Everybody wants a good teacher to be paid more. I've

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00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: argued my entire life that we should be running the

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00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: teaching system just like every other job or most other jobs,

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00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: and that is, if you're a good teacher, you get

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00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: paid more than the dud teacher. And don't tell me

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00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 2: there aren't dud teachers. And don't tell me there aren't

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00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: good teachers, because there are. And when you have five

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00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: kids and you put them through the education system. You

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00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: know that every parent knows that. But if the unions

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: are going to insist that every teacher gets paid the

1095
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: same as long as they've been in the classroom mixed

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00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: number of years, then this is the system you're going

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00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: to end up with. Right Austin, Texas, just by by

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00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: a background drivers Car's Cruise now defunct. That was the

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00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: business of General Motors, grunted its fleet in late twenty three,

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00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: operating license suspended in California. Uber ceased testing self driving

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00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: vehicles after one of its subs struck and killed the

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00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: pedestrian an Arizona. In twenty eighteen, company agreed to sell

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00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: itself driving business wai Mo, owned by Alphabet, scaling up

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: throughout the partnership with Uber. Amazon's Zooks is testing at

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: the moment. Basically, they're all in Texas because the laws

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: are hirly loos in Texas. You can carry a gun,

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00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: you can have a car with no driver. That's how

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00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Texas works, so fewer restrictions anyway, So it was all

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00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: on Austin, Texas Monday. Unfortunately, after day number one, the NHTSA,

1110
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, had seen a few

1111
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: videos on the social media, and they rang mister Elon.

1112
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: They said, mister Elon, just wondering if you couldn't supply

1113
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 2: us with a few details. Driving in a chaotic manner

1114
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: on public roads was the overarching theme of what happened

1115
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: on Monday. Car spotted traveling the wrong way down a

1116
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: road wrong way. Do remember, by the way, these were

1117
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: all Tesla model wise, there was a person in there,

1118
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: not just a passenger, but a person in the front

1119
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: passenger seat for safety. So I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: person placed there by Tesla did as the car was

1121
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: driving down the wrong way, but they clearly did nothing.

1122
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: Another was shown to be breaking hard in the middle

1123
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: of traffic responding to a quote unquote stationary police vehicle

1124
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: outside its driving path. So in other words, it saw

1125
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: a police car and just slammed on the brakes and

1126
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: so this went on. So they need a word with

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00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Tesla and the whole things, you know, day one falling

1128
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: apart at a rate of knots. Briefly, Mike, in reflection,

1129
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: it appears that the media frenzy eighteen months ago calling

1130
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: the government a coalition of chaos has been debunked. It

1131
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: seems to be very stable and working collaboratively. It's a

1132
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: fair point, Mike, as you commented, the current government lineup

1133
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: is blessed with talent. However, luck how is it we're

1134
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: still calling him Luxton? I mean, for God's sake, really

1135
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: has just has that annoying wishy washy look and vibe

1136
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: about him. Now can I say I've got no time

1137
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: for that view at all. If that's how you're viewing

1138
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: a prime minister, you're wasting your time. But I respect

1139
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: your view because in a democracy your views as important

1140
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: as mine. So if you want to judge a government

1141
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: on a wishy washiness vibe, then your votes as valuable

1142
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: as mine. And in there, and in that lies the conundrum.

1143
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: I think. Turn away from eight the Mike.

1144
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks Dead be.

1145
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Seven away from eight from the New Idea Department. We've

1146
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: got a new Zealand developed waste valorization system. It takes

1147
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: bruised an unsellable produce and powderizes it for use across

1148
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: a range of sectors. Doctor Andrew prest is the CEO

1149
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: of Powdered or Powered rather Powered by Plants. Andrew, morning

1150
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: to you.

1151
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike, Good morning.

1152
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: Twenty percent waste, So you take it and that currently

1153
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: goes weird to landfill or stock feed or whatever.

1154
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, it depends on the it depends on the product.

1155
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 22: But definitely onions, especially in poker Coe, there's not a

1156
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 22: lot of optionality for onions for stop feed, so most

1157
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 22: of it either does go to landfill and actually some

1158
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 22: still does end up in stock feed. But it's but

1159
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 22: it's a real problem and a real opportunity for for growers.

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00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: Can you put the same thing in? Can you put

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00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: anything in like onions and apples and pears and it

1162
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: turns out to be the same thing or as an individual?

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00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 22: No, No, the process is agnostic. So we've we've developed

1164
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 22: something that's very flexible, very agile, and with a bit

1165
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 22: of upstream process in or pre process in, we can

1166
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 22: we can manufacture powders and juice concentrates from pretty much

1167
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 22: any fruit and vegetable that's surflaus al waste.

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00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 9: Is this a machine, it's well.

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 22: It's a combination of machines that's set up it as

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00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 22: a process which which creates a very high throughput lean

1171
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 22: process which which maximize all of the value from from

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00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 22: what would have been waste.

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Speaker 2: The reason I'm asking about the machines is on assuming

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00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: you need to do it regionally because you don't want

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: to just take your rubbish onions and have to ship

1176
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: them somewhere. So if you sit up regionally, it's all localized.

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Does that make s correct? Right?

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 15: Correct?

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00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 14: Absolutely?

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 10: So.

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 22: You know we've we've used Lean thinking on that, and

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00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 22: that's that's basically minimizing transport. You know a lot of

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 22: Lean consultants talk about tim woods, transport imagery, motion weighting

1184
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 22: of a production, overproussing, defects, and wasted skills. This project

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 22: addresses all of those and and creates local jobs and

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 22: with the lowest amount of energy and transport.

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Speaker 2: What I like is you take something that was going

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: to the landfall anyway, your process and once you processed,

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: it's worth roughly on average five bucks a kilo. So

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00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: you've invented something from nothing, essentially, haven't you.

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 14: That's what yes.

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00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 22: Essentially, what we're doing is we've recognized that there's a

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00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 22: that we're a net importer of, let's say, onion powders.

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00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 22: We've worked with ent T on this access their databases

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 22: and New Zealand imports over a thousand tons of onion

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 22: powder which goes into things like Magi oursuit mixes, et cetera.

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 22: And yet we're basically a net exporter of fresh produce,

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 22: but a net importer of dried produce. What we're doing

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Speaker 22: is a left handy right hand opportunity where we can

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Speaker 22: actually take take the waste and sub partially substitute or

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 22: holy substitute what's been currently imported from overseas from markets

1202
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 22: that you know are you know, vulnerable to disruption, let's say,

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 22: is a great opportunity for growers.

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00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: Do you have to do a capital rise? How have

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: you done it?

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 7: Yes?

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 22: So initially we we worked with one really great strategic

1208
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 22: grower in in Pocket Coe and we applied for funding

1209
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 22: from through the Waste Minimization Fund and was successful. But

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 22: as you know, Mike with with with the pressures on

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00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 22: growers at the morning, pressures on everyone with a with

1212
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 22: a co funding model, it still needs funds from from

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 22: growers to actually match that. And that's kind of where

1214
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 22: we're stuck, is that, you know, growers are tapped out,

1215
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 22: and you know, it's it's it's it's a problem, but

1216
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 22: it's also an opportunity. And if we work together on

1217
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 22: this attract the right levels of investors. We can even

1218
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 22: go back and actually to get some co funding from

1219
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 22: the government because they're changing some of the rules still

1220
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 22: within well trade organization regulations that will make it easy

1221
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 22: to unlock the capital that we need.

1222
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: Good well, We wish you all the very bus well

1223
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: that will stay in touch. Andrew pressed out of powered

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Speaker 2: by Plants our news for you. In a couple of moments,

1225
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: Mark and Jenny Politics Winnsday, You're on the mic hosking Breakfast, the.

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Speaker 1: News and the newsmakers the mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three

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Speaker 1: News Talk sad be.

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Speaker 2: I'm a pilot circle in and dream trying to set

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Speaker 2: it down.

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Speaker 4: I'm a long shot of the guess wind rolling round

1232
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Speaker 4: and round.

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Speaker 2: I'm a pilot of a dream trying to set it down.

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: That's quite a bit say, I'm.

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Speaker 18: Last looking to be found, but it seas like I'm

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Speaker 18: hell been.

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: Trying to burn it there the little Guess who. This

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00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: is Lucas Nelson, And yes he is technically this is

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: a day Boom America. American Romance is the name of

1240
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: the album. But he's been in the band Forever promise

1241
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: of the Real And I don't know if I mentioned

1242
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: it the other day, but when I was talking about

1243
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: Neil Young who's going to Glastonbury. He's been backing Neil

1244
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Young for eons. Anyway. So this is the first day

1245
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: Boo album at twelve tracks, and one of which is

1246
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: called you Were rit You fort I Thank you for

1247
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: It's on it anyway. That was the first song he

1248
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: ever wrote when he was eleven. But imagine being Willie's son.

1249
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean, is that a blessing or a cursor here

1250
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: in the music industry. It is eight minutes past eight

1251
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with Us Alone with

1252
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: Jenny Anderson. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning morning,

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: good morning. You're back in the You're back in the country, Mark,

1254
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: or you're a brnoff bone.

1255
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 7: Still no beck on Foe beckon the country.

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: Good on you. I read a very do a piece

1257
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: from Radio New Zealand yesterday and I don't know why

1258
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: I keep going to their website, but it said mixed

1259
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: report on the Chinese trip, and I read through and

1260
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: they had one bloke who was commenting on the Chinese

1261
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: university saying that Chinese universities are better than New Zealand.

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01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: Why would I send to Chinese kids in New Zealand?

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: And I thought, I don't know who he was, because

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: a lot of Chinese sent their kids to New Zealand.

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: And the other person that quoted was Robert mccallach, who's

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01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: that economist at Aukin University. I thought he's been broadly

1267
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: speaking discredited. So I don't know. Was it a good

1268
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: trip or not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a great trip. It was outstanding.

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Speaker 23: I mean we met the Prime Minister, met with the President,

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 23: with the Premiere and with the chairman of the Standing Committee,

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Speaker 23: so probably the three most powerful people in China.

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Speaker 7: They were brilliant hosts.

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Speaker 23: Our business delegation was extremely pleased with the amount of

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 23: access that they had because having the Prime Minister there,

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 23: all of the big end of town and the partners

1277
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 23: come out and want to engage, which is really good for.

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Speaker 7: Us as a country. They were our biggest trading partner.

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Speaker 23: There was an education agreement signed with one of the universities,

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Speaker 23: and yes, Chinese students do want to come to New

1281
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 23: Zealand exactly.

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Speaker 2: Jenny. Other topic, why does Chris Hopkins This is not political.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted genuine sort of thinking as to how

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01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: you guys put your questions together in question in time.

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: So yesterday Hopkins is busy quizzing Seymour about the price

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01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: of butter, somehow inferring the price of butter as part

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01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: of the cost of living, which I suppose technically it is.

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Speaker 2: But does he ask the question knowing that we know

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Speaker 2: why the price of butter is the way it is

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Speaker 2: and it's not a result of the government anything to

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Speaker 2: do with the government, or is he just trying it on.

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Speaker 24: Well, it's not just butter, it's meat, it's fruit, and

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Speaker 24: VGs breeds up over twenty percent, So I think what

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Speaker 24: he's exactly doing is talking to New Zealanders who are

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Speaker 24: struggling to pay for their food bills, but.

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Speaker 2: With a view economically too.

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Speaker 24: And the government promised to be laser focused on bringing

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Speaker 24: down the cost of living, and it's still has not happened.

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Speaker 2: For Kiwi's right, it's.

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Speaker 23: Obviously the cost of lilies come down, and inflation has

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Speaker 23: come down and interestrates are coming down.

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Speaker 24: It might be in case someone who's got eight properties,

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Speaker 24: but for the average Kiwi who's struggling to pay for stuff,

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Speaker 24: it has not come down. But I'm not feeling Jenny.

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Speaker 2: You you surely under this is what I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: get to. You understand why butter is bred you none

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Speaker 2: of that's to do with the government, and you know that.

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Speaker 2: Don't you get it?

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Speaker 7: They don't get it.

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Speaker 23: Although good at is putting interest rates up, massive increase inflation.

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Speaker 24: Can I just stop there for a minute.

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Speaker 7: You weren't talking about that. We're talking about that.

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Speaker 24: Let's talk about that for a minute, Mike, Because we

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Speaker 24: had when National were in opposition and we had issues

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Speaker 24: such as the war in Ukraine that was driving up

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Speaker 24: global prices and international pressures that was putting up inflation.

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Speaker 24: National pointed the finger and said that that was domestic

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Speaker 24: that was doing us and they still trying.

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Speaker 2: If they said that, then they were but naturally finished.

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Speaker 4: Pla.

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Speaker 24: I just like now. But now when these global pressures

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Speaker 24: are gained, such as a war going on between what's

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Speaker 24: happening in the Middle East, now that's global pressure. So

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Speaker 24: you can't have.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get this out. So you honestly

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Speaker 2: believe hand on heart that the price of butter is

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Speaker 2: something to do with the war and not the fact

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Speaker 2: that the world wants our butter is prepared to pay

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Speaker 2: a lot of money for our butter, and therefore that's

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Speaker 2: a good thing, as much as we may angst about

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Speaker 2: paying for it.

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Speaker 24: Domestically, it is still an issue for New Zealanders who's

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Speaker 24: wages have not kept up with inflation, and that is

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Speaker 24: the government's fault. The wage increase on the minimum wage

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Speaker 24: has not kept up with inflation, so people do not

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Speaker 24: have enough money in their pocket to pay for the part.

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Speaker 2: Hardly any ones on the minimum wage techniquely hardly any one.

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Speaker 24: There is a lot of people in the minimum way.

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Speaker 2: How many people are what percentage of the workforces on

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Speaker 2: the minimum wage?

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Speaker 24: A lot of people who are working hours each week

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Speaker 24: are struggling on those on those on that money to

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Speaker 24: be able to afford food, and a lot of them

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Speaker 24: will be your listeners.

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Speaker 23: So just on the cost of living, Mike, we had

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Speaker 23: six years of a labor government where interest rates sword

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Speaker 23: cost of living went through the roof. And by the way, Jenny,

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Speaker 23: you have to understand that, yes, there will be international

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Speaker 23: pressures that put pressure on our economy, there's no doubt

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Speaker 23: about that. But there's a whole lot of leavers that

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Speaker 23: the government have that are domestic leavers that can help

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Speaker 23: relief relieve their pressure. And you guys, instead of using

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Speaker 23: those levers, went out and spent light drunken sailors and

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Speaker 23: buy more money.

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Speaker 7: You put more pressure on it. And that is the point.

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Speaker 24: So I'd like to respond to that if I could. So,

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Speaker 24: what this government has done is it fired a lot

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Speaker 24: of people, laid them off. It canceiled a whole bunch

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Speaker 24: of construction projects, with fifteen thousand construction workers losing their jobs.

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Speaker 24: And now that's what st that's what's caused stopping abroad.

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Speaker 2: There no no just hold on, just hold on, just

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Speaker 2: hold on. I'm going to go the break here, because

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Speaker 2: what's interesting about that is, I mean, Ginny, you're completely

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Speaker 2: and utterly wrong. However, the population might be on your

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Speaker 2: side because mark the IPSOS poll on issues, and I'll

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Speaker 2: get you to comment on this right after the break.

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Speaker 2: Is national are in charge of according to the population

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand, are best suited to deal with three

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Speaker 2: of twenty. So, in other words, on the other seventeen

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Speaker 2: labor beat you. So I'll ask you why.

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Speaker 25: Thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 25: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EPI sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 25: right Mark, So seventeen out of twenty issues ipsos rightly

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Speaker 25: or wrongly, doesn't matter, that's how people feel.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain it?

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Speaker 23: I think we're just we're leading through a very difficulty recovery,

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Speaker 23: but we're definitely on the right track. But I think

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Speaker 23: the reality of it is that people aren't fully feeling that.

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Speaker 23: We totally understand and we totally get that. You know

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Speaker 23: that there's an old saying in life, for anything worth having,

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Speaker 23: you got to fight hard for it. It's not easy.

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Speaker 23: We're fighting really hard to get our economic recovery back,

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Speaker 23: We're fighting really hard to get our education world class again,

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Speaker 23: working and fighting really hard to make ourselves the safest

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Speaker 23: country in the world and to have a world class

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Speaker 23: health system. And I think we're moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 23: I think fundamentally key with sense that we are actually

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Speaker 23: working hard and making progress on it. But they're not fit,

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Speaker 23: certainly around the economy, which is really tough. But I

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Speaker 23: think we're starting to see some real signs of recovery,

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Speaker 23: they're not actually fundamentally feeling it.

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Speaker 7: And I think the.

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Speaker 23: Other thing is is that you know there's higher expectations

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Speaker 23: around the National government, and that's fear and that's good

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Speaker 23: and we like the challenge. There's low expectations around a

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Speaker 23: Labor government on the economy because they normally trash it

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Speaker 23: and we have to come in and clean it up.

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Speaker 23: That's our political cycle. Labour has not come forward with

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Speaker 23: one economic policy, the Green said, but I think when

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Speaker 23: later it's marks minute with policies, then I think they'll

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Speaker 23: start the serial contrast.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you that, let me flip it. Let

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Speaker 2: me ask you this the Golden visas. There's a tangible

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Speaker 2: sign of success this week one hundred and eighty something

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Speaker 2: applications eight hundred million dollars worth of business coming our way.

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Speaker 2: Could you should you have done something like that?

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Speaker 24: Look, those things are always important to see where that

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Speaker 24: investment is going into our economy and if it's jobs

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Speaker 24: and sustainable changible benefits for New Zealanders, of course we'll

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Speaker 24: always take a good look at that. But I think

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Speaker 24: the point that when you're getting back to your IPSOCE

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Speaker 24: poll is that National campaigned hard on getting New Zealand

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Speaker 24: back on track and Marx just admitted to it. Kiwis

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Speaker 24: don't feel like we're back on track, And one example

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Speaker 24: would be the tax cuts.

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Speaker 2: They get quite night, say that we don't think it's

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Speaker 2: on the right track at the moment.

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Speaker 23: Well, are feeling the economic recovery yet?

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Speaker 24: Okay, so they're not feeling it. So two point nine

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Speaker 24: billion dollars that was meant to give downward pressure on rents,

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Speaker 24: that was meant to give.

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Speaker 2: People to rints down.

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Speaker 24: Well, people aren't feeling more.

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Speaker 2: Does they are down? You can't argue with the fact

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Speaker 2: that rents are down on average twenty dollars a week.

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Speaker 23: It's just it's yeah, it takes a wall when you

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Speaker 23: come through, and I think that people are finishing.

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Speaker 2: Yea, But Ginny, I got I've got a fact check

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Speaker 2: when say, when you talk about downward pressure on rents,

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Speaker 2: rents are down statement of fact correct.

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Speaker 24: No, I don't think they are. Well, I don't think

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Speaker 24: it's people who feel bad are not because there's no

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Speaker 24: money at the end of the week. And you on

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Speaker 24: your show, who talk it, Well, if someone who has

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Speaker 24: got eight properties is telling someone that they've got lots

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Speaker 24: of money in their policy, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying to try. I'm trying to walk a line here, Jenny.

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Speaker 2: But if you're going to argue with us simply for

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Speaker 2: the sake of arguing when rents are down. Rents are down.

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Speaker 2: It's a statistical fact. It's not a political statement. It's

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Speaker 2: the statistical fact rents are down.

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Speaker 24: Well, I've seen reports where they're not down for other

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Speaker 24: what reports that there has not been a significant decrease

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Speaker 24: to the point where people are feeling it.

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Speaker 17: And you can talk without.

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Speaker 7: What reports he is seeing that saying rents aren't down.

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Speaker 24: I thought that there was reports out recently. I will

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Speaker 24: go back and find the fourteen that there has not

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Speaker 24: been a significant shift in the cost of rents. They're

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Speaker 24: still high and people don't or eight.

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Speaker 7: Hundred dollars under your government. They're down under this government.

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Speaker 24: Listeners listening to this radio know the truth. Their rents

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Speaker 24: have not come down.

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Speaker 2: Five point eight percent, by the way, of people are

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Speaker 2: on minimum wage, so ninety four point two percent of

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Speaker 2: people aren't on the minimum wage. Ginny quickly scored David

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Speaker 2: Seymour as Prime Minister in question time yesterday, Audrey Young

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Speaker 2: gave them seven two. Seymour, Prime Minister in the house,

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Speaker 2: you were there all right, people feeling what about Mark?

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Speaker 10: What you score?

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Speaker 2: What are you scoring?

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Speaker 7: I'm going to stick with you to give them a night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, Nice to see you guys, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: It's say twenty one the.

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Speaker 2: note down my hr dot works pascing Nationally, rents are

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Speaker 2: down three point one percent, one point eight in christ

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Speaker 2: Church four point six and Wellington two point two. In Auckland.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yet, these guys have got to stop. And

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Speaker 2: when I say these guys, the Labor Party have got

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Speaker 2: to stop arguing for the sake of arguing. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with the exchange of ideas and we can all

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Speaker 2: agree to disagree. But facts are facts. This is the

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Speaker 2: statistics department. If you want to abolish this, just basically

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Speaker 2: run the economy on vibes, no problem, do it. But

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Speaker 2: given you didn't and we do have a stats department,

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Speaker 2: how about we just look at the stats and deal

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Speaker 2: with those and the whole They're not down, yes they are, No,

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Speaker 2: they're not. What a waste of time. Don't waste my

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Speaker 2: time and I get up at two thirty in the

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Speaker 2: morning to come and do the show to listen to

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Speaker 2: that sort of crap. They got to be better, be

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Speaker 2: better labor in general, which brings me to Cameron Bagriy.

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Speaker 2: And if you caught out on the facts, say you

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: caught out on the facts, don't go if any it

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: it's not an argument. I hope the campaign of next

1503
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: year is not going to be like that, but it

1504
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: does come back to my earlier point, and in democracy,

1505
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: everyone's allowed to think the way they want to and

1506
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: those votes are valid. And so if you thought and

1507
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: listen to that from Jenny, you thought, my god, yea

1508
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: absolutely more where that came from? Please, then you're entitled

1509
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: that and that's your vote, and your votes is as

1510
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: valuable as minor marks or anybody else that's listening to

1511
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 2: this program. A huge mood swing. Cameron Bagrael'll come to

1512
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: this in more detail, but he wrote a very good

1513
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: piece on Business Test and this may go to where

1514
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 2: the problem is. Anecdotally, he writes, I'm getting more questions

1515
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: on the potential for a change of government. There is

1516
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: growing nervousness, real concern is not just with possible change

1517
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: but the potential government make so he refers there, of course,

1518
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: to Labor, the Mari Party and the Greens, and he's

1519
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: right on both counts. One you've got to look at

1520
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: the mix and the potential mix, and there are going

1521
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: to be some serious questions for the Labour Party around

1522
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: their mates and the Greens, particularly the Marray Party but

1523
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: also anecdotally he's correct, because I get the same thing.

1524
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people are going, I don't know that

1525
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: this lot here currently running the place are doing enough

1526
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: for this not to be a genuine contest next year,

1527
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: and not only to not be a genuine contest, but

1528
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: that actually maybe get tipped up after one term. So

1529
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: more to come shortly.

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Speaker 2: It just wrap up on the Cameron bagger. You can

1534
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: read the whole thing in the business desk if you've

1535
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: got access to it, because it's a very good reader,

1536
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: very good insight into what's going on I think in

1537
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: the country at the moment. And he starts with the

1538
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: ipsos thing about the issues, the top twenty issues, a

1539
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: huge mood swing, he calls it huge mood swing. When

1540
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: he read that, he went, wow, his words, not mine. Wow.

1541
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: Go back to the last election National We're in charge

1542
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: debate of the top ten issues, eight of ten, fifteen

1543
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: of twenty in the last election. Suddenly it's just a

1544
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: couple so something material has changed in people's minds. Points

1545
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: the obvious out and that is that Labor don't have

1546
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 2: any policy. Having no policy appears to be the popular policy.

1547
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: That's the part I couldn't understand about the poll. How

1548
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 2: do you think Labour is so good at all these

1549
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: different areas given they don't have policies on any of

1550
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: them unless you're going back to what they were doing

1551
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: for the country twenty twenty through twenty twenty three when

1552
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: most of it was a disaster. Statement of fact, having

1553
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: no policy appears to be the popular policy or viewed

1554
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: as a better policy now, which is the weird thing

1555
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: about it. But I repeat anecdotally. He says, I'm getting

1556
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: more questions on the potential for a change of government.

1557
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: There is growing nervousness. The real concern is not just

1558
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: with possible change, but the potential government mixed so that's

1559
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: the Greens and the Murray Party. He concludes by saying

1560
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: the government needs to find some new taglines, and on

1561
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 2: that I think he's spot on. Twenty two to nine.

1562
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 11: It's a national correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace

1563
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 11: of mind for New Zealand business see bright what.

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: Us out of Australia money made?

1565
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 10: Well, we've got to remember, I feed Dutton lost the

1566
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,440
Speaker 10: election in Australia because he had too many policies, including

1567
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 10: the two that really cooked him. One that he was

1568
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 10: going to build seven nuclear power stations around the country.

1569
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 10: In two he was going to end working from home,

1570
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 10: and the moment he opened his mouth and said that,

1571
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 10: the women of Australia turned against him and ran the

1572
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 10: other way. So your poll is absolutely correct that it

1573
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 10: seems to be image rather than policy, is what bits

1574
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 10: you elected.

1575
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: It's a funny thing, isn't it. Where I just can't

1576
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: work out what's going is elbow in his heart? Anti American,

1577
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: therefore anti Trump? But just I was watching him the

1578
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: other day press conference and they tried to talk to

1579
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: him about the Middle East and bombs and B two's

1580
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: and I've never seen a guy less interested in what's

1581
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: happening in the world.

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Speaker 10: No, And you've got to go back, And I mean,

1583
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 10: is it fair to trawl back to forty years over

1584
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 10: someone's past when you need to. We've got a prime minister.

1585
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 10: It doesn't seem engaged in the alliance with our greatest allied,

1586
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 10: the Americans. At university was a student leader. He was

1587
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 10: at one point a member of the Communist Party. He's

1588
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 10: from the hard socialist left. Anthony alban is, No, you

1589
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 10: can hide all of that as well as you think

1590
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 10: you are, but when it comes to really dealing with

1591
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 10: crucial issues like this, I guess your core beliefs come

1592
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 10: to the surface. Now. Anthony Albanezi was forced to do

1593
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 10: a media interview on Sky News yesterday with Kieran Gilbert,

1594
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 10: and he really, as you point out, didn't look all

1595
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 10: that interested or worrying. Now he's got a glass draw

1596
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 10: and he keeps reacting very poorly about the media. He

1597
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 10: talks about there are usual suspects who criticize everything I do.

1598
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 10: He's probably pointing the finger at Sky News, which is

1599
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 10: ironic given he was on that station yesterday talking about it.

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 10: But he's not been able to secure a visit with

1601
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 10: Donald Trump. He's been to America, he said five times

1602
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 10: in his own defense. Problem is most of those was

1603
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 10: when sleepy Joe Biden was in charge. He's not been

1604
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 10: able to secure a meeting at NATO, where Donald Trump's

1605
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 10: now landed and gone to the pre NATO summit dinner. Now,

1606
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 10: our Defense Minister Richard Miles was there and I think

1607
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 10: he's delivered one of the great quotes that shows how

1608
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 10: pathetic our current administration is when it comes to the alliance.

1609
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 10: He says, Look, I've not secured a meeting with President Trump,

1610
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,879
Speaker 10: but I might quote bump into him. No, you won't

1611
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 10: be bumping into him. I mean, you're talking about a

1612
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 10: man with the greatest security detail in the world, is

1613
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 10: at the moment orchestrated in the end of a twelve

1614
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 10: day war. I mean, what are these people thinking?

1615
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: Weird? Are you getting the Australians out? Are they moving?

1616
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 10: Well, it was a lot so some But I don't

1617
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 10: know who they are and how they managed to get

1618
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 10: on this plane. But in Australia and ADF Mercy flight

1619
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 10: landed in Israel, the airspace was opened up briefly one

1620
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 10: hundred and twenty Australians and their family members. That would

1621
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 10: indicate to me that these are probably staff from the

1622
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 10: embassy who've been able to be evacuated. No one's telling

1623
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 10: us that. But when you say one hundred and twenty

1624
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 10: Australians and their family members, that would suggest to me

1625
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 10: they work for the government. The rest of the people

1626
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 10: who are there are really struggling. I mean the latest

1627
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 10: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade figures show four thousand,

1628
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 10: two hundred Australians are registered to try and leave the

1629
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 10: two countries. Thirteen hundred Australians in Israel in twenty nine

1630
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 10: hundred in Iran. And now Iran is a big country

1631
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 10: with a big population, but that staggers me that many

1632
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 10: Australian citizens. I mean, I'm thinking perhaps some of them

1633
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 10: are Iranians who've moved to Australia, they've got a residency

1634
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 10: and have gone back to live in Iran. That can

1635
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 10: be only explanation, can't it.

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming. So when does Elbo meet Trump ever, or

1637
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: well they both leave officer ever having met, No one knows.

1638
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 10: I mean, he apparently is going to address the United

1639
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 10: Nations at some point in the coming months. Now maybe

1640
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 10: that's the opportunity to do it, but Donald Trump has

1641
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 10: shown no interest in As we're engaging with Anthony Albanezi,

1642
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 10: which considering our position, and I mentioned this to you

1643
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 10: the other day, the Northwest Shelf, which is a communications

1644
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 10: bace the Americans running at Pine Gap in outside Alice

1645
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 10: Springs and other communications based. You got Marines based in Darwin.

1646
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 10: I mean, they've got a huge amount of military assets

1647
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 10: in this country. And we just don't seem to be

1648
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 10: able to get a meeting.

1649
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: I know, if you remember, I formed my opinion on

1650
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: Mushroom Lady Philly early on due to what seemed to

1651
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 2: be to me over writing evidence that she might be

1652
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: a bit dodgy. But presumably this gets wrapped up fairly

1653
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: quickly or not.

1654
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, the judge is addressing the jury enclosure and the

1655
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 10: jury will, I imagine go out today. He started Yesterday's

1656
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 10: Supreme Court Judge Christopher Beale. The trial's been going for

1657
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 10: nine weeks. There was originally fourteen jurors. One of them

1658
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 10: was dismissed and I was unaware of how this happens,

1659
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 10: but apparently they cut the jury down to twelve, so

1660
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 10: another duror will be dropped off before they go into

1661
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 10: the jury room. As I said, nine weeks, she's pleaded

1662
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 10: not guilty triple murder. Beef Wellington served back in July

1663
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 10: twenty twenty three. The judge said, look, you've got to

1664
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 10: prove reason without reasonable doubt here. You know, we know

1665
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 10: that she's been shown during the trail to be a liar.

1666
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 10: This is Aaron Patterson, but you can't judge her on that.

1667
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 10: You've got to do that beyond reasonable doubt convict her

1668
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 10: of deliberately poisoning a beef Wellington with mushrooms and killing

1669
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 10: three people. It'll be a hell of a jury room

1670
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 10: to sit in, wouldn't it.

1671
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 2: I reckon? If I'm thinking forty five minutes tops, I mean,

1672
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: give then time to go and sit down, maybe have

1673
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: a cup of tea if it's late in the day,

1674
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: have one more night in the hotel? Do they go

1675
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: home or stay in a hotel?

1676
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 10: Do you know they're in more well, so they'd stay

1677
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 10: in a hotel.

1678
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: I think she might get off what based on based

1679
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: on what.

1680
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 10: The fact that she I guess you need to be

1681
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 10: a little gefful the fact that she probably is a

1682
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 10: little unhinged, right, but may have just made a mistake

1683
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 10: with the mushrooms. How do you, as a jurist there

1684
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 10: and go, Well, she deliberately went and got death, kept

1685
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 10: mushrooms well because she went.

1686
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: Out foraging for them and then put them in a dehumidifier,

1687
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: which she said she didn't have.

1688
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 10: She went out foraging from mushrooms.

1689
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: So she got the wrong mushrooms? Did she didn't?

1690
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 10: You may be absolutely correct, as you normally are, but

1691
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 10: we'll find out all sooner.

1692
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I was. I saw the headline in the paper,

1693
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: Steve Price brought to tears. I thought, hello, this is

1694
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: this is not the Steve Price I know and love.

1695
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: So I went to the story and of course there

1696
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: were no t were there tear was? I mean? I'm

1697
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: sure it was sad and I get that. But you

1698
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: weren't blobing on national television? Were you?

1699
01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 10: No?

1700
01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: Good?

1701
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 10: I was very sad about fifteen years ending up on

1702
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 10: the project. I did not shed it to you.

1703
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: No, exactly, no false headline. I knew it. Good to

1704
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: see mate. Steve Price back next week on the program

1705
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Made forty five, The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By

1707
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Speaker 1: News talks at be.

1708
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: Mike fake juicy headlines cell. Unfortunately, Steve was the full

1709
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: guy this time. It is true, Mike. I think Steve

1710
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: is right. She will get off the interesting I've not

1711
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: followed it with the sort of forensic detail. I might

1712
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: follow a case here, but it struck me as a

1713
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: fairly easy guess as to which way they're going to go.

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01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 2: But we will see him. That's why you have the

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01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: judicial process. I guess Katie is having a first pickle

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: lesson on Thursday tomorrow, So we're moving into the peckle

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01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: paddle area. I'm considering moving into the thing in a

1718
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: more rigorous way because I'm told by a family member

1719
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: who makes a living in the other side of the

1720
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 2: world that and I can't work out well that I

1721
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: know what the difference is, but it can't work out

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01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 2: which way to go. So paddle and pickle is taking

1723
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 2: off globally. It is a massive thing. Believe me, it

1724
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: is huge, and people are being drawn to it in

1725
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 2: a way that racket sports have never seen before. And

1726
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: so you've got all sorts of leagues in America. Some

1727
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: of the big names in sport are buying into pickle teams,

1728
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: and there's television deals to be done. Anyway. What I know,

1729
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: for example, that there's a particular club in the place

1730
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: where our Sun lives that have converted old tennis courts

1731
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: into paddle pickle courts, and you literally cannot get on them.

1732
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: They're booked out for weeks in advance. It is just

1733
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: a licensed to print money. Then I get an email yesterday.

1734
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this will make it to you

1735
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: what it did. A couple of Canterory families who are

1736
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: best friends, have day jobs, have taken the plunge to

1737
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: start our own business in the evenings and grow a

1738
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: new sport, pickleball. Now pickle is the little holy balls

1739
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: with a little specific bat and you play it on

1740
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: a pickle court can be indoors outdoors, but it's a

1741
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: smaller tennis court. Basically, paddle has got glass around the

1742
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: year and it's like squash slash tennis. So pickle seems

1743
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,480
Speaker 2: to be the way to go because it's more accessible,

1744
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: it seems to be cheaper, and it might well be.

1745
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: So they're called Dink the company in christ Jurge Dink.

1746
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: It's hard slog. We're not cracking the amosphere pen and

1747
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: Noa's yet more like the Windo mistake bin Fire Fire

1748
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: five Chirazzes, which I thought was a nice but anyway,

1749
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: I wish you were the very best of luck at Dink.

1750
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: But it's a go. So Katie's into it, Dinker into it,

1751
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: our son's into it, and I'm thinking of moving into

1752
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 2: the area. And I'm just working out whether I need

1753
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: to go pickle or whether I need to go paddle.

1754
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 2: Nine Away from Nine.

1755
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the defender, oc turn use togs,

1756
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Speaker 1: dead bs now.

1757
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Speaker 2: to help support. Every day kiwis across the country, you

1760
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Speaker 2: probably heard them in the sky. Loud thump of the

1761
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Speaker 2: old chopper blades great. So I love a helicoptercent It's

1762
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Speaker 2: more than just sound, of course, it's a lifeline for

1763
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Speaker 2: reference and that this blew me away. Last year alone,

1764
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Speaker 2: rescue choppers around the country flew nine thousand, two hundred

1765
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Speaker 2: and eighty nine missions. That's twenty five people a day.

1766
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Speaker 2: So these missions include anything from airlifting mums and labor

1767
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Speaker 2: rescue missions life saving situations. It takes a lot to

1768
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Speaker 2: keep the choppers in the sky, of course, for new equipment,

1769
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: the maintenance, training, it all costs a lot. So Westpac

1770
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Chopper Appeal that helps raise awareness and support for the

1771
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Speaker 2: crews can keep supporting the community. So if you're at

1774
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Speaker 2: home and wondering what you can do to make a difference,

1775
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Speaker 2: donate Chopper Appeal dot co dot in z because there's

1776
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Speaker 2: no greater sound when you needed. Of course, chopper appeal

1777
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Speaker 2: dot co dot in z posking paddle is superior to

1778
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: peckle matin. Yeah, well that's when we get into the

1779
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: great debate. That's sort of personal interpretation, isn't it Pickle,

1780
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Our whole family goes to the one in

1781
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Hamilton's called Topsman, absolutely full every day. If you love tennis,

1782
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: you love pickle. I think that's the general jest that

1783
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: I get. And there's always one might be were a

1784
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: Calle's issues speaking which Friday should be fun. So Katie

1785
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: will be fresh off her inaugural pickle lesson.

1786
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 15: Perhaps with a raptured Archilles who knows No, she's very flexy.

1787
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: I beg.

1788
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 26: That's why everybody always sees right up until the point

1789
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 26: that they're dancing on New Year's Eve at a campground.

1790
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 26: And then I hang on, I revealed a bit too

1791
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 26: many demails.

1792
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: About Tim was just in here Wilson Friday, he won't

1793
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: be playing pickle. He's got something medical on us, a

1794
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: part of his body, so that'll be revealed Friday. So

1795
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 2: an elite athlete in Katie and an old fart who

1796
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: fell over and Tim should be fun five minutes away

1797
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 2: from nine.

1798
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemists Warehouse, the Real House of Vitamins.

1799
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: So subcommittee hearing on the hill in Washington. Our old

1800
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: friend Marjorie Taylor Green, she chairs this one. What could

1801
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: possibly go wrong?

1802
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 18: No one loves veterans more than President Trump, and he's

1803
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 18: made that apparent.

1804
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: That's why he's working for.

1805
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 18: Peace, Madam, not your time.

1806
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 17: I'm the chair of this committee.

1807
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 19: That's not how I'm the chair, Terry procedure.

1808
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: We're not recognizing Stanbury. You're not recognized either.

1809
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 19: You can't just speak any time you want.

1810
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 20: I'm the chair of the how Many that's not how

1811
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 20: Miss Stansbury.

1812
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 19: You're not recognized.

1813
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 15: Chair, that's not how Park Stansbury.

1814
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 16: You're not recognized, all.

1815
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 18: David, that's not how Stansbury.

1816
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 19: You're not recognized. We're going to give you a Robert.

1817
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: Miss Stansbury, you're not Sansbury.

1818
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 17: You're not recognized.

1819
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 9: Point of order, Madame, Chair, Can can we decide who's

1820
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 9: going to speak first? Than we don't?

1821
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: How come I don't have a gabble?

1822
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 15: Well that's why right there, that's.

1823
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: Why sixteen years I've been doing the show We.

1824
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 15: All know that the gavel power would go to your head,

1825
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 15: almost like it has to his.

1826
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: I need me a gavel, Can I tell them? James

1827
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: May is on the program tomorrow? Or was that not?

1828
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can. You guys don't When was he

1829
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: last on? Was it too years ago? I reckon it

1830
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: was two years ago. Could have been closer to three.

1831
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 2: But I've always loved James May.

1832
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 15: That that means it was probably six, probably eight.

1833
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Who would known? The old timers is kicking it anyway,

1834
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: He's been on before. I've been here before. He was

1835
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: here before at some point. Anyway, it doesn't matter. James

1836
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: May is back on the program tomorrow after eight as always,

1837
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: Happy Days.

1838
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,120
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