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Speaker 1: Together do for ce Ellen nineteen past five. We've got

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Speaker 1: the terms of reference for the Electricity Authorities review into

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Speaker 1: that pylon collapse. It will look at the cause of

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Speaker 1: the event, it will look at how Transpower dealt with

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Speaker 1: the situation afterwards, including how Transpower communicated with the public.

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Speaker 1: Transport Minister and actually in this capacity, Energy Minister Simeon

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Speaker 1: Brown is with me now, hey, samn, good evening. It

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Speaker 1: suggests that you might think that transpowers Comms maybe not

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Speaker 1: up to scratch. Is that what you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Why well, I think they are a stat own

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Speaker 2: enterprise and they operate, own and operate the transmission lines

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Ultimately, I was up in Northland on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Feedback very clearly was there was a significant lack of

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Speaker 2: communication in the afternoon of Thursday last week and actually

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Speaker 2: I expect also you know there was no explanation given

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Speaker 2: publicly by the entity entil Monday. I think it was

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Speaker 2: frankly unacceptable and actually nation but owning up to what

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Speaker 2: happens and explaining that to the public in a much

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Speaker 2: more open and honest way, couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: When did they tell you what had happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't told formally until Monday morning, but I

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Speaker 2: visited the site on Friday morning and had one quick

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Speaker 2: look at it in new straight away.

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Speaker 1: Did anybody was anybody at the site who was like yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you see did anybody confirm it?

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Speaker 2: I mean very clearly they pointed out what was happening

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Speaker 2: and why. And it was very clearly explained what had

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Speaker 2: been happening.

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Speaker 1: Which is to say that Friday thene on Friday, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not good enough. What's the punishment by the way that

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Speaker 1: they might get handed down?

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Speaker 2: Well, ultimately this is about looking at the review, looking

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Speaker 2: at the circumstances and taking lessons from it. Ultimately, the

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Speaker 2: boarders accountable to the shareholding ministers and that they had

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Speaker 2: responsibility here on the governance. I'm looking at it from

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Speaker 2: an energy security perspective and saying this is unacceptable what happened.

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Speaker 2: There needs to be accountability. There needs to also be

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Speaker 2: a lessons learned and also we need to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you know, in particular Northland, the resilience of that

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Speaker 2: community is considered. And that's why part of the terms

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Speaker 2: of reference is actually looking at Northland and the resilience

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Speaker 2: of that community. It has had a tough few years,

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Speaker 2: whether it's energy, whether it's transport, and actually we need

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Speaker 2: to look at the energy resilience of that community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Simin, thank you very much. As always, Simon Brown,

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