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Speaker 1: Mike the my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your

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Speaker 1: be Welcome to.

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Speaker 2: Day Gains getting smashed by the police. News stats on

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Speaker 2: how many people don't want to be a teacher. You've

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Speaker 2: got a big day for Simla coming up today, a

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Speaker 2: new research into our kids lack of resilience, politics, Wensday

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Speaker 2: of course after raid, Richard Arnold Murray Old's they pony

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Speaker 2: up Pasky. Welcome to the middle of the week, seven

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Speaker 2: past six. So I got a little bit of fizz

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Speaker 2: in the housing market, that's my prediction of it hasn't

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Speaker 2: already started. We're going to see it by Christmas. Agent

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Speaker 2: commentary that I'm getting rangers from. It's not quite there yet,

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Speaker 2: but open homes are busier and the cash rate is

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Speaker 2: making a difference right through to those who are full

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Speaker 2: of hype merchants at the moment, and this is the

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Speaker 2: last chance, apparently to grab a bargain before it all

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Speaker 2: takes off. Now some of the major players are now offering,

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Speaker 2: as I'm sure you're aware, a mortgage rate fixed two

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Speaker 2: years below six percent, in fact nowadays well below six percent.

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Speaker 2: Big quandary is, of course, do you take it? Will

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Speaker 2: it go lower? How low will it go? But he

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Speaker 2: is the most valuable piece of information of all trade.

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Speaker 2: Me did some works and research. Home ownership is collectively

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Speaker 2: our biggest dream. We dream scroll. This is the thing

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Speaker 2: dream scrolling. If you don't own, you want to own.

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Speaker 2: If you're already owned, you want to own more or better.

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Speaker 2: It is deep within the keywi psyching. And the interesting

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Speaker 2: thing is it's always been that way as far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell. I grew up thinking and believing that

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Speaker 2: owning your own home was a major step in the

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Speaker 2: journey to success, and it seems that hasn't changed, which

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Speaker 2: is good. The commentary has, of course, the commentary is

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Speaker 2: full of woe and misery about unaffordability and people giving up,

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Speaker 2: But in there has always been a number that defied

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Speaker 2: the theory. First home buyers, even through COVID, even through

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Speaker 2: the cost of living mess have remained the biggest group

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Speaker 2: of purchases. It's always about twenty five, twenty six, sometimes

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Speaker 2: twenty seven percent, over a quarter of all sales at

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Speaker 2: all times involve people buying their first home. No matter

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Speaker 2: what the headlines about being locked out told you, that

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Speaker 2: hasn't changed. Sixty three percent from this research see owning

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Speaker 2: as an employ stant step in life. Thirty two percent

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Speaker 2: have always dreamed for rent as that number sixty six percent.

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Speaker 2: Once you understand that the profoundness of that level of

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Speaker 2: desire and thinking, housing will always be profitable, it will

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Speaker 2: always be affordable, Always be an investment, be a path

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Speaker 2: of retirement, be a sense of satisfaction in place. When

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Speaker 2: you dream, you tend to make it happen. You tend

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Speaker 2: to be determined New Zealanders and housing. That's always been

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Speaker 2: the clue as to where the market is heading.

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Speaker 1: Whow news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're aware. Like yesterday, they're rounded diddy.

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Speaker 3: Up use the business empire he controlled to carry out

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Speaker 3: criminal activity including sex, trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bravery,

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Speaker 3: and the obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, in the Middle East, a bunch of pages simultaneously

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Speaker 2: exploded in Lebanon.

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Speaker 4: The numbers injured unclear, but reports are that over one

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Speaker 4: thousand have been injured. The Beirut's hospitals have been put

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Speaker 4: on high alert, and it's been calls for blood donations.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people suspect they know who's behind.

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Speaker 5: It, a lot having the stereotacs exponentially across northern Israel.

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Speaker 5: I think around one hundred thousand is radies have been

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Speaker 5: forced to flee from northern Israel. I think this is

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Speaker 5: the latest indication, but the fact that Israel are stepping

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Speaker 5: up trying to counter that, and this is a good

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Speaker 5: indication of that.

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Speaker 2: As regards to America, the Rice and the golf course

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Speaker 2: and the IGS out again this morning and reminding us

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Speaker 2: all how unbiased they.

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Speaker 6: Are, we will all work together to tirelessly determine accountability

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Speaker 6: in this matter.

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Speaker 7: We will spare no resources.

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Speaker 2: Instigation JD isn't helping the overall temperature.

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Speaker 8: You know, the big difference between conservatives and liberals is

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Speaker 8: that no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris in

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Speaker 8: the last couple of months, and two people now have

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Speaker 8: tried to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months.

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Speaker 9: As for the illeged target, very peaceful, very beautiful, whether

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Speaker 9: everything was beautiful, it was a nice place to be

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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden we heard shots being fired

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Speaker 9: in the air, and I guess probably four or five.

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Speaker 10: Fine, and it sounded like bullersk.

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Speaker 2: Yes they did, that's very good. He didn't finish, just

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Speaker 2: putting finally coughing us. And we got new research out

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Speaker 2: of such. Our university of this is in China. They've

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Speaker 2: looked at three hundred and sixty thousand coffee drinkers from

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Speaker 2: the UK Biobank. That's a database that follows people over

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Speaker 2: the longer term. It found it having a morning cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee or one to three cups a day lowers

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Speaker 2: the risk of developing cardio metabolic multi morbidity that Splash

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Speaker 2: took for heart disease and stroke with diabetes. In fact,

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Speaker 2: the risk is reduced by forty eight percent. That's a

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Speaker 2: single cup. One to three cups of tea also have

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Speaker 2: a similar effect and used the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make a big deal of this. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure it is Tom Cruise. It's been revealed this morning,

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Speaker 2: who sort of had a fairly significant role in the

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Speaker 2: ceremony in Paris didn't get paid for it, and they

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Speaker 2: were surprised, and this all came out in the big

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Speaker 2: sort of chat session and the person who was behind

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Speaker 2: it thought they might get two or three hours if

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Speaker 2: they were lucky with cruise, and Cruise would say, well,

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Speaker 2: look i'll give you three hours and afternoon you've got

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Speaker 2: a film. It all at once, simple as that. He

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Speaker 2: couldn't be more enthusiastic. And what's more, he did it

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Speaker 2: for absolutely next and then that I'm not actually surprised.

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Speaker 2: Talks it'd be good, and so Micha if there's any

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Speaker 2: doubt about the Valdy of wine production and five killing

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Speaker 2: me just just north of White Brothers, Canterbury. Fourteen helicopters

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Speaker 2: hobbing above the grape vines to beat the frost at

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Speaker 2: the moment you'd be in the little early for fruit

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Speaker 2: little bit bit nervous. So I wish them well with

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Speaker 2: all of that. Fifteen past six that vines like to struggle.

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Speaker 2: I think we all know that, don't we now? From

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Speaker 2: jam I Well for Andrew kellerher good morning, Mollie, Mike,

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Speaker 2: how about the GDT.

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Speaker 7: We'll take it, Yeah, we will. The dairy sector, Michaeh.

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Speaker 11: I think it's I think in terms of sort of

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Speaker 11: overall influence, I think it's a tailwind for the domestic

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Speaker 11: economy in the moment. There's some sort of key themes

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Speaker 11: helping that aren't the commodity prices lower interest right Fonterra

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Speaker 11: is performing quite well, and if you talk to farmers

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Speaker 11: I think they I think the general feeling is the

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Speaker 11: current government is more favorably disposed than the last and

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Speaker 11: one And there was nothing to suggest prior to this

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Speaker 11: auction that we would have a negative how come, and

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Speaker 11: that was.

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Speaker 7: The case, so very much status quo.

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Speaker 11: At the global dairy trade price index level, we was

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Speaker 11: for a rise of zero point eight percent. Now just

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Speaker 11: reflecting and over the last quarter since June, we've had

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Speaker 11: sort of five relatively mundane outcomes.

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Speaker 7: We've had one big up and one big down, so.

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Speaker 11: The global dairy trade price and it's just pretty much

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Speaker 11: exactly where it was in June, and stable is good.

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Speaker 11: Just looking last night at commodity level, Mozzarella the big

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Speaker 11: winner four and a half percent, Cheddar up two point

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Speaker 11: nine percent, butter drifted lower one point seven percent.

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Speaker 7: But the big commodities both positive.

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Speaker 11: Skim milk powder up two point two and whole maork

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Speaker 11: powder plus one point five and if I look at

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Speaker 11: both of those, skim milk powder has spelt the bulk

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Speaker 11: of the last twelve months trading in quite a tight range,

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Speaker 11: Whole milk powder ranged also between sort of this year though,

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Speaker 11: threey one hundred, three thousand and five hundred on the

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Speaker 7: So nothing here to change.

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Speaker 11: I think the forecast farm gate milk prices so steady

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we like that. And then rabobank have found

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Speaker 2: a similar thing. And I'm assuming Dairi's played an outsized

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Speaker 7: Yeah, although actually it is broad based.

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Speaker 11: So we talk quite a bit about consumer confidence, business avage,

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Speaker 11: what about the farm as well, the good folk as

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Speaker 11: Fortunately at Rababanker they do a farmer confidence survey and

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Speaker 11: I just said the rule sector could be the sectors

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Speaker 11: sort of help lead us out of our economic funk.

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Speaker 11: And if you look at the Rauba Bank confidence results,

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Speaker 11: it seems to be supportive of that view. Farmer confidence

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Speaker 11: has risen sharply. It's now at net positive levels that

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Speaker 11: so that's quite a long time. So they're feeling frisky

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Speaker 11: on the farms bike the headline level plus three from

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Speaker 11: minus twenty five, so that's quite a shift. What's driving

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Speaker 11: that optimism, Well, what we just talked about higher commodity

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Speaker 11: prices forty percent quoting that falling into strates thirty one percent,

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Speaker 11: quoting that the main concern of those farmers who are

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Speaker 11: less favorable continues to be high input costs. And yeah,

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Speaker 11: it's across all sectors, so it's across dairy farmers' across

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Speaker 11: sheeven bee forticultures that are all recording that positive readings. Interestingly,

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Speaker 11: eight percent of farmers still describe their own farm businesses

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Speaker 11: as unviable, but more farmers now assess their operations.

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Speaker 7: As viable or easily viable.

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Speaker 11: And to cap it off, the number of farmers expecting

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Speaker 11: the performance of the broader acri economy to improve in

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Speaker 11: the year, it has doubled in the last quarter mic

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Speaker 11: so it's gone from fifteen to thirty. So spring has

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Speaker 11: sprung as far as farmer sentiment is concerned.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff and the airport got their money.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we talked about this yesterday they attracted bids well

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Speaker 11: in excess of the one point two billion on office,

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Speaker 11: so the institutional bid has been successful.

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Speaker 7: Trading resumed yesterday.

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Speaker 11: It was a bit weaker on the open, but after

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Speaker 11: that quite well supported. So yeah, they'll be they'll be happy,

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Speaker 11: and now they'll step into the retail offer, which people

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Speaker 11: out there need that.

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Speaker 7: They should talk to their local broker.

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Speaker 2: It's time tomorrow, mate, Fed, Yeah, it's time Fed. How

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Speaker 2: big is you're going to be?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the market's sort of pretty much on

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Speaker 11: hold of them. It's all retail sales. Overnight figures there

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Speaker 11: were a bit better than expected, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 11: they're all So the markets were a bit weaker, but

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Speaker 11: just sort of bouncing around. Look, I think the markets

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Speaker 11: market would like to see fifty basis points.

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Speaker 7: The question is the FED prepared to go there?

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Speaker 2: You want to bet bottle of wine twenty five?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I say twenty five too. So that sort of takes

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Speaker 2: us nowhere, does it right?

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Speaker 10: Where?

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Speaker 2: Well, we can go nowhere just for the hell of it.

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Speaker 2: What are the numbers the.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, okay, the Dow Jones says, bouncing around.

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Speaker 11: At the moment, it's down to thirty points forty one.

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Speaker 7: Six hundred and eight.

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Speaker 11: The S and P five hundred is basically flat on

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Speaker 11: the session at the moment five six three three, and

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Speaker 11: then is up fourteen points seventeen thousand, six hundred and

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Speaker 2: It'd be a couple of things going on around the world.

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Speaker 2: like unions. After Rod told us yesterday, Starmer handed out

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Speaker 2: going to have to conduct daily sweeps of schools in Springfield.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how much is resource do you reckon? That's

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Speaker 2: in action comedy called Brothers. One brother wants to go

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Speaker 2: clean and start a family, and his family of criminals

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Speaker 2: are bringing him back for one last job. Some families

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Speaker 2: have a long line of dentists or lawyers.

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Speaker 7: We had a long line of felons.

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Speaker 10: That's me.

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Speaker 2: The big ugly one is my twin brother, Mok.

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Speaker 12: I had the plans, he had the hands.

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Speaker 2: We just bought a house while we're having a kid.

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Speaker 2: Bro Come on, I am finished stealing shit.

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Speaker 7: Let's do this one and split mom. You were gone

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Speaker 7: thirty years.

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Speaker 13: I can apologize on so much.

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Speaker 7: You haven't apologized at all.

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Speaker 2: Why are you back now?

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Speaker 3: The Emeralds worth about four million.

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Speaker 11: I got a plan, but it takes all of us.

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Speaker 7: Terrible plant.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got Josh Brolin, we got Peter Dinklice.

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Speaker 2: They're the Brothers. We've got Glenn Close, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see her. Brendan Fraser not such a

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Speaker 2: big fan. Marissa Tom She's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Out and

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Speaker 2: Select theaters October. I don't even know why. I've never

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Speaker 2: understood this and I probably don't care.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 14: It's fit.

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Speaker 15: So they can't enter it in the awards unless they

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Speaker 15: play it in the theaters.

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Speaker 2: I just put it in one theater, put in one thing.

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Speaker 14: That's perspectively what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Off Union Square. So October eleven, So you think this

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Speaker 2: is going to be an award winner to enter an award,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be an award winner. That didn't sound

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Speaker 2: like an award winner to a pile of crap anyway,

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Speaker 2: October eleven. And then on Amazon Prime October the seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: Soon Ley, we followed the story closely. I told you

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Speaker 2: about their banking and credit facilities yesterday. Today's the big

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Speaker 2: voting day. Are they're enough shareholders who want to go

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Speaker 2: with the plan? Do they survive? So the big call

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Speaker 2: talk more about it after the news.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

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Speaker 2: The did he charges and of course I'll fall out

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Speaker 2: from the assassination Richard Arnold all over that will get

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Speaker 2: seven D day for sin Layers. They look to raise

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Speaker 2: this capital. Shareholder is going to be voting at nine

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Speaker 2: this morning on the two hundred and eighteen million dollar proposal.

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Speaker 2: So where does the support for the sin Lay board

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Speaker 2: chair George Adams respect Well, that's George, very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you. Thanks for helping me and not at all

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Speaker 2: the level of confidence you go into today with is

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Speaker 2: what hi good so Bright dairy Urn. Is it fair

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Speaker 10: Yes, it is? It is. I think the only challenge

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Speaker 2: Just explain that for people who haven't followed the intricacies

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Speaker 10: Yeah. So basically neither break nor A two you can

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Speaker 2: The Bright Street carry on.

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Speaker 10: In terms of the Bright placement. Bright can vote on it,

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Speaker 10: which means that there's only sixty percent roughly off the

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Speaker 10: A too have voted positively. They have twenty percent of

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Speaker 10: that sixty which means that there's still two thirds of

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Speaker 2: Okay, the New Zealand Shareholders Association called the dead rat.

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Speaker 2: How many people voting today are going? I wish we

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Speaker 10: Not sure to be honest, I know that there are

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Speaker 10: I think that dead right comment. Look, it's a kind

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the credit facilities, and I detail this on

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Speaker 2: the program yesterday. The number of banks involved in your

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Speaker 2: credit facilities is how hard was that to put together?

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Speaker 2: And the fact that there seem to be so many

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean our previous think it might would have

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Speaker 10: It probably is definitely more than we would have liked,

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Speaker 10: and it was difficult to put it together. Have to

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Speaker 10: be honest, Okay, I came a really good job.

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Speaker 2: Are you pleading with the banks?

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't using both knees, but there certainly is a

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Speaker 2: I can't remember because I don't have it in front

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Speaker 2: Are the Chinese banks involved because Bright's Chinese?

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Speaker 10: That would be the kiss for sure?

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Speaker 10: So I mean, look, I think a couple of them

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say it all goes well today. Where

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Speaker 10: Yeah? It basically means that really we could put the

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Speaker 2: Does the I mean you will have seen the result

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Speaker 2: this morning at the auction, the general tile wins of

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Speaker 2: the dairy market at the moment, does that help in

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Speaker 10: I'm genuinely not sure it does. At this stage. It's

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure I asked you this last time because

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Speaker 2: I've been endlessly fascinated by this whole story. How does

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of things going on, there's quite a

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Speaker 10: and I think if you're not up for it, Frankie,

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Speaker 2: Good on him. Well, I wish you well today. Nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock as the boat time. As I alluded to George Adams,

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Speaker 2: who's the Sinley board chair, Let's go to the States

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Speaker 2: I missed you naming the give a little page for

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Speaker 2: Tory far now it's I mean, come on that interview

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Speaker 2: with old Nick yesterday. If you voted for Tory and

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Speaker 2: you still defend it, good luck to you. You're allowed to.

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Speaker 2: It's a democracy. But I give you, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: I give you Wellington and all its issues, and I

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Speaker 2: give you the mayor. And all I ask you to

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Speaker 2: do is join some dots.

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Speaker 16: Six forty five International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance,

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Speaker 16: Peace of mind for New Zealand business side.

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Speaker 2: Sid Richard Oar on morning, didn't what do you make?

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Speaker 2: Where are we at with the investigation?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 17: President Biden says the Secret Service needs more resources as

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Speaker 17: this latest assassination attempt on former prison Trump as being assessed,

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Speaker 17: and it certainly needs to be gone over closely, doesn't it.

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Speaker 17: Former President Trump wrote on his social media that the

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Speaker 17: effort by the Secret Service was quote absolutely outstanding. Was

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Speaker 17: it the maniac with the semi automatic? Even though he

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Speaker 17: has a lengthy equivotal record had been sitting in the bushes,

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Speaker 17: we hear for about twelve hours at least they think.

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Speaker 14: So where was his.

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Speaker 17: Car with it parked just near the golf course since

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Speaker 17: two in the morning. Well we don't know yet. Thankfully,

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Speaker 17: the Secret Service agent saw the barrel of the weapon

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Speaker 17: pointing through the thick bushes and trees and open fire

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Speaker 17: before this individual was in direct side of Trump. However,

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Speaker 17: was this a one hundred percent success since the would

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Speaker 17: be assassin was not able to get off a shot,

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Speaker 17: or was it a close call? There was more a

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Speaker 17: case of good luck. The alleged one to be assassin

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Speaker 17: was about four hundred meters from Trump. The range of

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Speaker 17: his semi automatic with the scope that he had was

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Speaker 17: about two and a half times that distance. Experts that

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Speaker 17: would have been an easy shot. Monce Trump was in view,

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Speaker 17: which was only moments away. So prison Biden is calling

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Speaker 17: for security to be bolstered. Trump gets less security than

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Speaker 17: a sitting president. But this is a different time, a

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Speaker 17: very superheated political campaign. Even the acting head of the

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Speaker 17: Secret Service, Ronald Rose, says the agency needs a complete overhaul. Well,

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Speaker 17: that at best happened quickly. The accused gunment has been

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Speaker 17: charged so far with a couple of weapons counts, a

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Speaker 17: legal possession of a firearm as a convicted felon and

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Speaker 17: possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Flora's

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Speaker 17: governor Ron Desanta says he thinks the man should face

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Speaker 17: state charges of murder, which could bring a mandatory life

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Speaker 17: prison term, and more charges do seem likely. Meantime, Trump

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Speaker 17: called for unity and toning down the political retric when

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Speaker 17: he was shot in July.

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Speaker 2: Not this time.

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Speaker 17: He and his associates are blaming the Democrats, and he

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Speaker 17: claims are running a campaign of hatred for calling try

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Speaker 17: threat to democracy, and his deputy JD Events is saying,

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Speaker 17: you know.

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Speaker 8: The big difference between conservatives and liberals is that we

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Speaker 8: no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris in the

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Speaker 8: last couple of months, and two people now have tried

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Speaker 8: to kill Donald Trump in.

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Speaker 7: The last couple of months.

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Speaker 8: I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs

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Speaker 8: to tone.

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Speaker 14: Down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out.

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Speaker 17: This echoes what Trump back at Elon Musk posted the

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Speaker 17: other day when he wandered in a tweet, why quote

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Speaker 17: no one is even trying to assassinate Biden and Harris

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Speaker 17: Masque later called that a joke and took that post down.

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Speaker 17: Here's a brief sampling of Trump though from me just

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Speaker 17: the past seven days.

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Speaker 14: You can end up in World War three.

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Speaker 17: She's a Marxist, communist, fascist socialist.

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Speaker 9: We must stop her country destroying liberal agenda once and

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Speaker 9: for all.

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Speaker 18: She's a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 17: New York Times reported Peter Baker Wright sitsts today in

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Speaker 17: an editorial quote. Trump long has favored the language of

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Speaker 17: violence in his political discourse, encouraging supporters to beat up

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Speaker 17: Heckler's storting to shoot looters and undocumented migrants, mocking a

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Speaker 17: near fatal attack on the husband of the Democratic House speakers,

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Speaker 17: suggesting that a general he deems disloyal be executed. And

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Speaker 17: on it goes forty nine days to the election.

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Speaker 2: Ers indeed, and then we come to Diddy, and I

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Speaker 2: suspect these wheels are going to turn for a while.

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Speaker 17: Yep, this is lurid. The rapper sew did hey combs? P?

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Speaker 2: Did he puff?

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Speaker 7: Whatever?

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Speaker 17: Is in court today after federal prosecutors accused him of

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Speaker 17: sex trafficking and racketeering. He could face fifteen years to

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Speaker 17: life in jail with these charges, which include allegations of kidnapping, trafficking, arson, bribery,

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Speaker 17: other elements. Combes lawyers say they will fight all of

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Speaker 17: these charges. While prosecutor Damian Williams says did he would

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Speaker 17: organize sex shows which included many of those elements.

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Speaker 3: Combs allegedly planned and control the sex performances, which he

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Speaker 3: called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freakoffs

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Speaker 3: sometimes last days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,

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Speaker 3: and often involved a variety of narcotics such as ketamine, ecstasy,

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Speaker 3: and GHB.

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Speaker 17: Also, Williams says of the situations.

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Speaker 7: And Combs didn't get his way.

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Speaker 3: He was violent, and he subjected victims of physical, emotional

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Speaker 3: and verbal abuse so that they would participate in the

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Speaker 3: freakofs and that Comb's hit kicked through objects at and

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Speaker 3: dragged victims at times by their hair.

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Speaker 17: Prosecutors say others also might face charges over some of this.

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Speaker 17: They are opposing bail for Combs, whose lawyers have written

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Speaker 17: a note to the judge today saying Sean Combs has

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Speaker 17: never evaded, avoided, eluded, or run from a challenge in

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Speaker 17: his life, be a challenge, They are offering an extensive

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Speaker 17: bail package that includes a fifty million dollar bond, the

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Speaker 17: passports of his daughters and mother, the equity of the

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Speaker 17: home of his mother's place in Florida, and home detention

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Speaker 17: with GPS monitoring shoes.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you Friday. Appreciate it. Rich Arnold stateside,

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Speaker 2: we'll get back on the farm in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments. Nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting repist with Alveda Retirement Communities.

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Speaker 2: And following with a little bit of interest is unfolding

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Speaker 2: in an appeals court in Washington, DC at the moment.

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Speaker 2: This is the business of the State of America against TikTok,

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Speaker 2: and so what they're looking for is the divestiture of

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Speaker 2: TikTok from bike Dance. TikToker running the argument that if

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Speaker 2: you make us do this, the company will close down.

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Speaker 2: And it's the end of free speeches. We know it,

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Speaker 2: And there's the First Amendment and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: The interesting point that was made yesterday, I've got some

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Speaker 2: sympathy with it. The platforms used by politicians and the

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Speaker 2: run up to this election felt hypocritical. If it were dangerous,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't be there, which is actually not a bad argument.

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Speaker 2: But we must understand that it's the divestiture that's the issue,

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Speaker 2: not TikTok itself. So what the Americans are saying is

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Speaker 2: TikTok itself is just another social media platform, but the

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Speaker 2: fact that dances Chinese and controlled allegedly by the Chinese

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Speaker 2: government makes it dangerous. So if they sold TikTok to me,

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Speaker 2: they'd be happy with it. Meantime, Instagram has announced this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'll be fascinated to see whether this is workable that

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Speaker 2: they're going to park teen accounts, teenagers accounts in a

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Speaker 2: special area tagged and limit it. You can unleash yourself

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Speaker 2: a little bit, allegedly if you've got parental commission, but permission.

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Speaker 2: Everyone under eighteen creators included, are going to be put

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Speaker 2: into a teen account. They can remain public of the

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Speaker 2: parent is involved and gives them permission and are supervising

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Speaker 2: the account. But they're pretty big changes the role. That's

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Speaker 2: not immediate. New users will be defaulted into these accounts

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Speaker 2: upon sign up existing teen units. Teen users may not

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Speaker 2: see immediate changes. Many around the world ain't going to

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Speaker 2: see anything till next year. But this is their latest

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Speaker 2: attempt because the heat is on to try and tidy

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Speaker 2: their ACKed up five minutes away from seven shelly in and.

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Speaker 1: The outs the fears with business favor take your business

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Speaker 1: productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Your cheap meat sector. Rabobank they've done the work watering

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Speaker 2: the green shoots in New Zealand. Sheep meat is what

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Speaker 2: they've called their report long term good outlook. Positive. Total

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Speaker 2: average export values though are down as we well know,

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Speaker 2: driven by global jeep little factors drop and exports to

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Speaker 2: China blah blah blah. Three recommendations This is the important

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Speaker 2: stuff to get more consistency in earnings. One is offering

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Speaker 2: more domestic consumption, which I thought was really interesting. So

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Speaker 2: domestic consumption of lamb in this country's only five percent

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Speaker 2: of total production. The rest we sell to the world.

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Speaker 2: Our per capita consumption of lamb is about one third

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Speaker 2: of Australia's. So if we were to increase our consumption

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Speaker 2: levels to equal Australias, then it would place the domestic

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Speaker 2: market behind only China in terms of overall consumption of

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Speaker 2: sheep meat. Now I hear what you're saying. At so expensive, well,

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Speaker 2: how come they eat it in Australia. It also recommends

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Speaker 2: having a closer look at trade and diversifying away from China.

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Speaker 2: That's not a new recommendation. It's not even a not

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Speaker 2: obvious one. I would have thought that all eggs and

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Speaker 2: one basket is not a good thing. They say there's

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Speaker 2: big opportunity in the UK, the US and parts of EU.

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Speaker 2: Certainly the US are buying our beef like there is

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Speaker 2: no tomorrow. Beefs through the roof. Beef's fantastic. Sheep meat

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Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. Third, and then you get the

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Speaker 2: wall problem. Of course, Third is to increase sheep meat competitiveness,

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Speaker 2: put more research and resource into looking at technological advances

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Speaker 2: to help future proof the industry, R and D programs,

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Speaker 2: things like that. So you can't mark them down old

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Speaker 2: rabobank for not coming up with some half decent ideas.

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Speaker 2: But that domestic consumption thing is really interesting. So would

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Speaker 2: you eat more lamb? Why aren't you eating more lamb?

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Speaker 2: We make the best lamb in the world. Why don't

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Speaker 2: you want to consume the best lamb in the world.

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Speaker 2: Or is it simply the price point is too high.

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Speaker 2: And if the price point is too high, is that

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Speaker 2: not good because it means it's set locally, because internationally

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Speaker 2: we're getting a heap of dough. Interesting youth. Wee you

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Speaker 2: in a couple of moments. Then we'll rip into the

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Speaker 2: business of the common Chero's and all their charges.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show you can try us the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Jaguar f beat cut from a different

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Speaker 1: class news togs had.

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Speaker 2: Been seven past seven. So the police seem on a

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Speaker 2: real roll at the moment, don't they when it comes

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Speaker 2: to gang's major headhunter's bus the other week now charges

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Speaker 2: all over the place for the common Terro's. The claim

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Speaker 2: is that virtually every single Commonterero is facing charges or

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Speaker 2: at least some sort of court time forty one individuals,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty seven alleged defense as sociologists and

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Speaker 2: gang expert Jared Gilbert with US Jared Morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember when a gang in almost totality has

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Speaker 2: been busted, can you.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's only one time that I can recall it happening, actually,

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Speaker 6: and that was up in Nelson with the Red Devils.

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Speaker 6: They formed of the feeder group to the Hall's Angels,

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Speaker 6: and the entire chat was taken out there. Unfortunately, Mike,

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Speaker 6: the outcome of that wasn't great because those charges were

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Speaker 6: overblown and there was some discrepancies with the way the

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Speaker 6: police had collected evidence. So all they'd all fell over

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Speaker 6: and that group became Hell's Angels. Okay, I think it

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Speaker 6: will be a little more successful.

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Speaker 10: I've got to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, do you revel in this?

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Speaker 2: It seems at last to some degree that the authorities

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Speaker 2: are on top of the sort of criminal behavior.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think this. I mean, this is a really big bust.

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Speaker 6: And this is why I think they'll be the things

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Speaker 6: will be successful in this. We're could see the evidence,

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Speaker 6: of course, Mike, but you know there's a there is

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Speaker 6: a heck of a lot of kilograms of drugs have

658
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Speaker 6: been confiscated, hundreds of thousands of dollars. So make no

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Speaker 6: bones about it. This is a really significant bust, and

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Speaker 6: it appears though it's basically taken out the common generals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, does it get filled the gap?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Look, unfortunately it does, right, because I mean it's quite

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Speaker 6: like this, if a big coffee supply tomorrow at Grigg's

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Speaker 6: Coffee or whoever, just decided not to supply the market

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Speaker 6: for whatever reason. In New Zealand, demand for coffee would

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Speaker 6: remain exactly the same, and so others will just come

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Speaker 6: in and fill that.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 6: So if we want to really tackle the drug trade,

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Speaker 6: then we've got a focus on the demand side, so

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Speaker 6: addictions stopping people getting into meth for example. However, that

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Speaker 6: does not mean because you could trug the shoulders at

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Speaker 6: that point you say, well, what's the point of these dusts?

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Speaker 6: Then well they are incredibly important and you can make

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Speaker 6: no bones about that, And the reason for that is

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Speaker 6: that it stops well, one, there's an element of trust.

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Speaker 6: Its people breaking your lordship, your help to account firstly,

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Speaker 6: but perhaps even more importantly than that in this instance,

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Speaker 6: is that it stops these crooks gaining really significant financial

681
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Speaker 6: assets which can then be used to corrupt the system.

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Speaker 6: So knocking that head off as you can't just can't

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Speaker 6: be understated.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't I'm no expert in this, but it

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Speaker 2: does surprise me that at the size of these operations,

686
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Speaker 2: because you don't get that big without the authorities understanding

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Speaker 2: something that is going on. Is there something in the

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Speaker 2: legal system that prevents them acting earlier and smacking them

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Speaker 2: at an earlier stage before they get this big and

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Speaker 2: this effective, well.

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Speaker 6: Will These series of operations have been going on for

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Speaker 6: I think one three years. Yeah, so it does take time,

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Speaker 6: but the reason for that is you want to make

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Speaker 6: sure that your net has caught as much as possible.

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Speaker 6: I mean, even an operation, say it comes into a port.

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Speaker 6: If you cons if you find contraband in a container

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Speaker 6: at a port, for example, oftentimes it's far better to

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Speaker 6: let that container leave the port. See who picks it up,

699
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Speaker 6: where the contraband goes to, who else is involved, So

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Speaker 6: you can actually get wide a net and the other

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Speaker 6: part of us which is really important because we when

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Speaker 6: we look at organized crime, we tend to just think

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Speaker 6: of the people slinging drugs, for example, but actually there's

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Speaker 6: people who launded the money exactly. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 6: the people that are wholesale. So there's actually far bigger

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Speaker 6: fish to fry sometimes. So that's why these operations can

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Speaker 6: take quite a long time. Obviously the police want to

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Speaker 6: be fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not fair enough to good on sight. I appreciate it, Jared.

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Speaker 2: As always Jared Gilbert, sociologist and gang expert Mark Mitchell

711
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Speaker 2: have plenty to say about this as well. As genny

712
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Speaker 2: of course up to right a clock, just to give

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Speaker 2: you an indication, one hundred and thirty seven charges at

714
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Speaker 2: this particular point. Since twenty one, they've been involved. Two

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Speaker 2: hundred and six kilograms of myth, two hundred and six kilograms,

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Speaker 2: one point seven six kilograms of coach a virtually none,

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Speaker 2: so they're all in the meth game. Two point six

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Speaker 2: kilograms of cannabis, one point two seventy five million dollars

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Speaker 2: in cash, nine point two million dollars in assets. They've

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Speaker 2: got five properties and fourteen vehicles, so that is a

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Speaker 2: major operation. Eleven minutes past seven, tasking have we come

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Speaker 2: to education? Part of the reason we have a teacher

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Speaker 2: shortage is basically no one wants to be a teacher.

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Speaker 2: New stats this morning, number of those signing up has

725
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Speaker 2: halved since twenty ten, and those going on to graduators

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Speaker 2: drop by a third. The Secondary Principal's Association President Voron

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Speaker 2: Coyez back with this is born, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Up to money, Hey, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, those stats are a dire old thing, aren't they.

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Speaker 19: Ah, they hurt, and they've been declining for some time,

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Speaker 19: and we've been sort of waving the flag at multiple

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Speaker 19: governments across multiple years to say this is going to

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Speaker 19: come and bite us, and it's biting, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's money. Money helps. If I offered

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Speaker 2: you more money, you'd say, sure, why not. But to

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Speaker 2: take something on like teaching, you've got to want to

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Speaker 2: do it, and money can't be the sole reason, which

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Speaker 2: is all I ever hear. It's got to be more

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Speaker 2: complex than that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: Well, while we went to that period of full employment

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Speaker 19: just after COVID, you know that twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 19: three sort of seasons where people couldn't get employees but

743
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Speaker 19: the borders hadn't quite opened and all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 19: it was about money. People were leaving teaching because they

745
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Speaker 19: could literally get paid fifteen or twenty grand more at

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Speaker 19: an entry level job in the private sector, because of course,

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Speaker 19: the private sector was bound by that public sector. The

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Speaker 19: public sector was bound by that public sector pay restraints stuff,

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Speaker 19: and so we did have some money issues. And also

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Speaker 19: when you're going into teaching, when you're finishing a degree,

751
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Speaker 19: and my son's in exactly this situation. They're finishing his degree,

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Speaker 19: all of us mate to going I think I'm going

753
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Speaker 19: to go get a job so that gives them fifty

754
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Speaker 19: or sixty grand whatever they're going to be going to

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Speaker 19: go and do, whereas he's got to go do I

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Speaker 19: want to not have an income for another year and

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Speaker 19: pays additional student fees, So he puts himself quite a

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Speaker 19: bit behind everybody else.

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Speaker 2: And you've got to spend your life in front of

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Speaker 2: a bunch of scruts. And that's the problem, isn't it.

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Speaker 19: Actually, Actually about ninety eight with the end of them

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Speaker 19: were pretty awesome, mate to me.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, I knew you'd say. But that's the point,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, it doesn't matter what you've got

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Speaker 2: to love what you do and of the environment it's

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Speaker 2: not right and all that stuff. That's your real issue,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 19: Pretty Much if you go into teacher training and you

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Speaker 19: go on your first practicum, you know in the first

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Speaker 19: half a day whether this bag is for you, and

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Speaker 19: so it is a calling. But also it's a global situation.

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Speaker 19: So we're pretty harsh in New Zealand looking at ourselves.

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Speaker 10: Are going, good grief, what a we're doing wrong?

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Speaker 19: Actually, there's a global teacher shortage. I was talking to

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Speaker 19: my offsider in Australia who does the same thing as me.

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Speaker 10: Over there, they've.

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Speaker 19: Got exactly the same conditions that we've got. I was

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Speaker 19: talking to a guy in the UK recently. The teacher

779
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Speaker 19: shortage in the UK is extreme, so it's a global

780
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Speaker 19: phenomenon where people aren't going into teaching. It is becoming

781
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Speaker 19: more challenging with regard to the non curriculum based demands

782
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Speaker 19: that have been placed on the school sect across the globe.

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Speaker 19: But it's a fantastic job, so I've been got to

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Speaker 19: get into it.

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Speaker 2: Well good anyone, good sales, Patrick, well done, and I

786
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Speaker 2: hope we can turn it around. AI might help eventually

787
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Speaker 2: for in Coyo, the Secondary Principals Association President fourteen minutes

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Speaker 2: past Sevensky Lamb far too expensive in New Zealand. Can

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Speaker 2: buy our lamb cheaper win overseas and butter as well.

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Speaker 2: Go figure, Well, that's a size thing. When a place

791
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Speaker 2: with a population of sixty six million people goes and

792
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: buys a lot of LAMB, that's why the individual price

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Speaker 2: per unit goes down.

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Speaker 10: Mike.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the lamb's too expensive, but the quality

796
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Speaker 2: is also poor. That's simply not true. If you want

797
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Speaker 2: good quality lamb. The best lamb in the world. You

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Speaker 2: can find it still in this country. Mike. We love lamb,

799
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Speaker 2: but New Zealand cheaper in Ireland than Auckland. So it's

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Speaker 2: the old argument about what we do overseas some countries.

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Speaker 2: If you look at oil, for example, in Saudi Arabia,

802
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: they don't index it, so in other words, they don't

803
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Speaker 2: sell it on the international price. They make it cheaper locally, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Why would anyone not eat lamb? It's certainly one of

805
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Speaker 2: my favorites. So many simple Greek recipes available online. Slow

806
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: roasted leg of lamb with lemon, garlic, oregano, mustard and

807
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: olive oil, blended and poured over the legs sitting on

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Speaker 2: potatoes three hours in the oven.

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Speaker 14: I mean, come on, just cancel the rest of the

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Speaker 14: show and go.

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Speaker 2: And if you're not hungry, something wrong with your fifteen

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Speaker 2: past the Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I was thinking about being being a teacher. Recently,

816
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: I was told by four different teachers do anything but

817
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Speaker 2: become a teacher. They all reported too much unnecessary paperwork,

818
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: adding hours of work to their week, too much political

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Speaker 2: b as policies way underpaid for the hours they put on,

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Speaker 2: all of whom are averaging fifty five plus hours a week.

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Speaker 2: Michael will be fascinating to hear what Ginny has to

822
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Speaker 2: say about the gang arrests. Why couldn't her government do

823
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Speaker 2: something about it? Well, then her defense, the operation yesterday

824
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: was a culmination of three years work. This government's only

825
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: been in power for one year, so that operation was

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Speaker 2: well underway under her watch. It's not easy to be

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Speaker 2: qualified as a teacher. The training institutes are a mess.

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Speaker 2: Aukland Union is still based on race one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that's true. Speaking of institutes, AUT

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Speaker 2: we raised on the program with the Prime Minister yesterday,

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Speaker 2: AUT and their business of giving extra Marx if you like,

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Speaker 2: if you apply, if you work for them and you

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Speaker 2: want to travel somewhere overseas, if you're Mari or Pacific,

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Speaker 2: you get more marks automatically just by race than anybody else. Would.

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Speaker 2: We put this to the Prime minister. He hadn't heard

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Speaker 2: this their statement, but he's onto it, and I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about that. In a moment. Aut yesterday said there

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Speaker 2: is a critical shortage. They're defending this, of course, and

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Speaker 2: this is despite the government saying we want a colorblind

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Speaker 2: public service. I ask yourself where aut and etc. Get

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Speaker 2: all their money, and the answer is the government us.

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Speaker 2: There is a critical shortage of Marian and Pacific academic

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Speaker 2: staff in the university sector, and our policy supports the

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Speaker 2: need to address this. They proactively supports Maray achievement in

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Speaker 2: tertiary education as part of our commitment to tatidity. Our

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Speaker 2: approach to academic travel opportunities reflects this commitment. We stand

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Speaker 2: by this. Well, that's fine. You can stand by it

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Speaker 2: till you blow in the face, but you're now breaking

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Speaker 2: the rules. A government of the day is the government

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Speaker 2: of the day. You may not agree with them, but

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Speaker 2: they're the ones giving you the money. And this is

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Speaker 2: my great concern and I tried to raise it several

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Speaker 2: times with the Prime Minister. Yes, you're seeing it in

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Speaker 2: the judiciary places like the White Tangi Tribunal. You're seeing

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Speaker 2: it in the public service, the leaks around David Seymour's

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Speaker 2: work on the Treaty Principles Bill, and now you're seeing

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Speaker 2: it at university level. They're saying, I don't care what

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Speaker 2: your rules are. We're going to do what we want

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Speaker 2: to do. So the good news and we'll follow this

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Speaker 2: one up as Penny Simmons, the Minister is due to

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Speaker 2: meet we understand with aut today and hopefully she goes

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Speaker 2: with a message from the top down that this stops now.

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Speaker 2: Seven twenty.

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885
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Speaker 2: Frenzy sale which must end the twenty fifth of September,

886
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Speaker 2: But most importantly, stop paying too much for Chemmis's Warehouse

887
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Speaker 2: h SKI seven twenty three CE. It's only when you

888
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Speaker 2: read the full detail in the latest taxpayer Union Career

889
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 2: pole that you start to get a feel for where

890
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: the current government sits first leat the poles. For corporate clients,

891
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: reportage is usually limited to a few basic numbers, i e.

892
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: The nats are up or down a point and added

893
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: together that means x number of seats for these So

894
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: the full report that's got the gold and everyone in

895
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: corporate New Zealand will be seeing that this current government

896
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: is on somewhat of a roll. And here is the

897
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: really worrying thing for the opposition parties. These numbers are

898
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: produced at a time the economy is still rubbish and

899
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: it's entirely possible. We're still in a recession. So things

900
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: for labor especially to worry about. One the Coalition have

901
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: sixty seven seats, that's an easy majority. Two every single

902
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: issue bar one, they're now more trusted on. In areas

903
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: like the economy and spending, the government win by a mile.

904
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: The gap is embarrassing. The only area of Labour claim

905
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: victory in Nardays's poverty, and even then they claim it

906
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: by one point three. The right Way Wrong Way tracker

907
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: has turned in spectacular fashion since the election. Many argue

908
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: this is the true indication the government support. Get the

909
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: country going right, You're in every time four the Labour

910
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: leader's popularity has tanked the favorability. Unfavorable numbers have created

911
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins, isn't liked, isn't backed. Is as they say

912
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: in America underwater. Now fair is fairs just a poll,

913
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: not an election. But get some steam in the economy,

914
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: get a growing level of confidence as the Reserve Bank

915
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: cuts those rates and people start to spend and feel

916
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: good again. Get some real growth and proceedings, and it's

917
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: at that point any government of the day starts to

918
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: feel like they're re electable. We've seen this past week

919
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: the seats, I mean, they're the shoots of progress, those

920
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: crime stats, the increasingly determined action around the treaty, the

921
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: reportage of schools talking of this change of culture after

922
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: a phone band. These are small but tangible wins. If

923
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: by the end of next year the economy is back

924
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: and the rest of the tangibles are falling into place,

925
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: and opposition will have very very little left in which

926
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: to enter election year with, and Chris Hepkins won't just

927
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: be underwater, he'll be out of a job. Pascar become

928
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: to Carmela Harris, who's been sitting down with some black

929
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: journalists today and said this.

930
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 13: People are deeply troubled by what is happening to that

931
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 13: community in Springfield, Ohio. And it's got to stop. And

932
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 13: we've got to say that you cannot be entrusted with

933
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 13: standing behind and the seal of the President of the

934
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 13: United States of America engaging in that hateful rhetoric that,

935
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 13: as usual, is designed to divide us as a country,

936
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 13: is designed to have people pointing fingers at each other.

937
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 13: It's designed to do that. And I think most people

938
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 13: in our country, regardless of their race, are starting to

939
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 13: see through this nonsense and to say, you know what,

940
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 13: let's turn the page on this. This is exhausting and

941
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 13: it's harmful and it's hateful.

942
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Quick game. How many times is she going to between

943
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: now and voting day? Say two in the page? Is

944
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: it more or less than ten thousand? Jdie Bounce has

945
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: been out as well, so we'll get to him in

946
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. On the program. Michael Friend's

947
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: daughter reteaches English at Selwyn, works twenty four to seven

948
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: on the weekends and holidays for what seventy K would you? Well,

949
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: I take your point or the inference of your point,

950
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: but you know as well as I do. No one

951
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: works twenty four to seven, and teachers certainly don't. And

952
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: that's the problem with the unionism of teaching. The ones

953
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: who do work, and the ones who are brilliant are

954
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: paid the same as the ones who aren't. And that

955
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: is a critical, critical mistake that no one in the

956
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: education sector seems to want to fix. Speaking of students,

957
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Speaker 2: you research for you shortly.

958
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Big news fold opinions, the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

959
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, and rural

960
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Speaker 1: news Dogs.

961
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: Head be Politics Wednesday after eight Martin Jenny back for

962
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: Wednesday mentioning Karmla Harris is sat down with serious black

963
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: journalists today and done had a fairy, lengthy old discussion. Meantime,

964
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: JD's been out there in Michigan taking us through how

965
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: this is all unfolded for him when the pop pop

966
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: unfolded on the golf course in Florida.

967
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 8: I actually, of course, heard about the news before almost

968
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 8: anybody else. I was sitting at home with my on

969
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 8: and we were doing you know what, my what we

970
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 8: always do when my.

971
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 7: Wife's not around.

972
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 8: We were playing video games. You know, we get that

973
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 8: like one hour, all right, we can play video games,

974
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 8: and then before mom comes back, we got to cut

975
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 8: that crap out. Sorry, honey, I just told all myself.

976
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 8: But we're sitting there and I get a phone call.

977
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 7: Says Donald J. Trump. So I answer it and.

978
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 14: He says, JD, you won't believe it.

979
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 7: They just tried to do it again. I said, what

980
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: do they try to do?

981
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 8: He said, well, they just tried to shoot me again.

982
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 14: And I said what, No way.

983
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 8: You know, I almost couldn't believe it when he first

984
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 8: told me, and I said, oh my god, sir, I'm

985
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 8: so glad you're okay, But you know you're physically okay.

986
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 8: Clearly you wouldn't be calling me, are you okay? In

987
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 8: all the ways that matter? And he said, yeah, I'm

988
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 8: doing fine, and that's just who he is. He just

989
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 8: gets shot, almost shot a second time, and he's totally fine.

990
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 8: He was a little annoyed about one thing though. You know,

991
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 8: he was mad because he was on the sixth hole

992
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 8: when he was about to make a birdie putt, and

993
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 8: he said, he said, I'm kind of pissed off they

994
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 8: wouldn't let me finish my birdie. I was having the

995
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 8: round of my life.

996
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes. By the way, good news story for

997
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: Canterbury in a couple of moments. But before we do

998
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: all of that, an insight in the fragility of our

999
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: young people. One in five of our fifteen to twenty

1000
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: four year olds are experiencing what they call high psychological stress.

1001
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: This comes from the work of S. Peter Gluckman's think tank.

1002
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: They tell us children need to build better resilience. So

1003
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: I suppose the question, or one of the questions, is

1004
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: how do we do that? Doctor Felicia Lowe is with

1005
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: us on all of this. Felicia, good morning to you,

1006
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. The twenty percent is interesting because that

1007
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: I suppose, if you want to be positive, glass half

1008
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: full means eighty percent don't suffer high psychological stress. So

1009
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: is that good or bad or we don't know?

1010
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 20: Twenty percent too many? I mean it's one in five

1011
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 20: and you know that could easily be your own child,

1012
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 20: or you know, your your nephew or niece, or you

1013
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 20: know your good friend's child. You know, we want every

1014
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 20: single young person in New Zealand to be able to

1015
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 20: you know, feel mentally positive and to be able to

1016
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 20: thrive in life. And if they're not feeling they're feeling

1017
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 20: distressed all the time, that it's going to really impact

1018
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 20: how they can function and live their lives.

1019
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: What is high psychological stress and how do you measure it?

1020
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 20: So it's basically in this case, I think the survey

1021
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 20: was about the self report of you know, various measures.

1022
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 20: There are tests that are available that have lots of

1023
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 20: different questions and then you might answer, you know, yes

1024
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 20: or no, all right, how you know strongly you agree

1025
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 20: or disagree with them, and you know you come up

1026
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 20: with the score and generally when you exceed a certain score.

1027
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 20: That's how we distinguish whether someone is distressed or not.

1028
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Is it getting worse? Do we eno if it's getting

1029
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: worse or not? I mean that the rhetoric would indicate

1030
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: it's been never been harder to be a young person.

1031
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1032
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 20: Yes, yes, it is. What we have noticed is not

1033
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 20: just that young New Zealanders are not doing well, but

1034
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 20: it's been getting worse over the last you know, several

1035
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 20: years or past decade. And yeah, a big reason for

1036
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 20: this is that the Wilson is very different from the

1037
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 20: world that you and I grew up in. And you know,

1038
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 20: we've got things like, you know, the aftermath of a

1039
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 20: global handem it, we've got climate change anxieties, we've got

1040
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 20: the impacts of social media. So it's a really different

1041
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 20: world that young people are growing up in the exposed

1042
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 20: to all these different challenges that we have. And it's

1043
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 20: not a surprise.

1044
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: Really, this is not true to say though every generation

1045
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: grows up in a different world, and every generation has

1046
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: said since time memorial, We'll tell you what we're growing

1047
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: up in a different world from when you and I

1048
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: grew up.

1049
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 20: Yes, I mean I can understand that perspective, but these

1050
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 20: are some very very very different issues that young people

1051
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 20: are facing, and it's it doesn't matter I guess whether

1052
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 20: it's different or you know, worse or better or whatever

1053
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 20: than previous generations. The issue is that we know that

1054
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 20: young people are not doing well and we have to

1055
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 20: do something to.

1056
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Help them well well. Being a parent of so, I've

1057
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: got some experience, and most of them, as it turns out,

1058
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: in fact, all of them turn out to be in

1059
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: the fifteen to twenty four bracket. I can tell you

1060
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: as a parent, their attitude to life, their outlook on life,

1061
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: how life affects them is different for each individual person,

1062
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: despite the fact they've been raised in broadly speaking, the

1063
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: same way. So that would indicate to me it's genetic

1064
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to societal.

1065
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 20: I wouldn't say, I mean, there are some aspects of

1066
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 20: personalities that are innate for sure, And yes, I mean

1067
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 20: there are many parents that can have anecdotes about how

1068
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 20: one child is completely the opposite from you know, another child, Yeah,

1069
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 20: despite being reached in the same environment. But we're looking

1070
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 20: at a whole, like the population as a whole, and

1071
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 20: I know it's easy to pick up examples where you

1072
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 20: know there are these sort of unusual differences within a family,

1073
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 20: but as a whole, we know young people are people

1074
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 20: are not doing well, and we know that there are

1075
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 20: some ways that we can do to help them. And

1076
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 20: that's what we should be focusing on.

1077
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: And who should be doing that is that school? Is

1078
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: that parents? Who is this all of us?

1079
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 20: So when I say we should be helping them, that

1080
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 20: includes parents and caregethers, the schools or education system as

1081
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 20: well as you know, policy makers who Mike develop policies

1082
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 20: that can more broadly support parents and schools and the

1083
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 20: communities to help our young children.

1084
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, Felicia, Felicia Lowe, who's out

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Speaker 2: of the Quoitu Center for Informed Futures. That's Sir Peter

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Speaker 2: Gluckman's very good work. Seventeen minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: It the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks at be well teen away from Mike Mbigauz of

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Speaker 2: last week, still asking new supplies to fill out a

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Speaker 2: document that clearly asks, if you're a Mario Pacific of business, simon,

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Speaker 2: we're going to piece all of these together. This goes

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Speaker 2: with the aut business somebody has just seen as a

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Speaker 2: copy of the EQC as in the Earthquake Commission, by

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Speaker 2: annial grants program. I didn't know they had a biennial

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Speaker 2: grants program, approximately a million dollars over two years. Projects

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Speaker 2: were expected to range from fifty thousand to a maximum

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Speaker 2: of one hundred thousand, and how they work. And I'm

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Speaker 2: gone through all of that, but we get to the

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Speaker 2: we get to the money. But EQC, or as they

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Speaker 2: call themselves, toker to k which they no longer have

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Speaker 2: to should do because the government's instructed them not to.

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Speaker 2: So see the argument here is this is not anti anything,

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Speaker 2: This is just following the rules of the day. And

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Speaker 2: so this is my ongoing concern that the government doesn't

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Speaker 2: actually run anything. People are running it for themselves while

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Speaker 2: at the same time expecting the government to fund them.

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Speaker 15: Do we invoice them because I mean, yesterday the Prime

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Speaker 15: Minister seemed to give the impression that it wasn't until

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Speaker 15: we brought up.

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Speaker 2: Very good point, we're doing God's work, probably should be

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Speaker 2: something or should we be like Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 14: We've got we've got two or three so far this.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, We've got MB, EQC, A U T.

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Speaker 15: And so presumably somewhere in the Prime Minister's office. The

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Speaker 15: phone rings and goes right, asking's brought some more up. Again,

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Speaker 15: We've got to go and chase we sort it out.

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Speaker 2: Dedicated to promoting the participation of Mari in early career researchers.

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Speaker 2: To achieve this, fifty percent of the grants twenty five

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Speaker 2: percent for MARI relevant research and twenty five percent for

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Speaker 2: ECR LED so twenty five percent for relevant Maori research.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you go along, you go either I'm

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Speaker 2: Maori or preferably you go along and say I'm Maory

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Speaker 2: and I want to research this aspect of Maori. In

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Speaker 2: regards to the EQC, how you would do that, I

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Speaker 2: have got no idea, But nevertheless they've got twenty five

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Speaker 2: percent of that set aside. So, in other words, half

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Speaker 2: of the research grant money is race based. So you know,

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Speaker 2: this is not about whether that's right. It isn't right.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's not right. You don't have race based policies.

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Speaker 2: But it's even more not right once the government's told

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Speaker 2: you it's not right and it needs to stop, which

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Speaker 2: then brings us to Torri far now speaking of things

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Speaker 2: that need to stop. So I'm slightly sent to the

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Speaker 2: subject of people's personal finances. Now having said that, she's

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Speaker 2: a public figure and she spends our money, and she's

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Speaker 2: on the radio yesterday morning and she tells Nick in

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Speaker 2: Wellington that she sold her car to make ends meat.

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Speaker 2: So she's running along the lines of first of all,

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Speaker 2: that famous bike rack that turns out to be a mistake.

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Speaker 2: She openly admits it's a mistake. So at least she's

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Speaker 2: finally realized what we all realize right from the start,

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Speaker 2: that half a million dollars for a bike rack, one

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Speaker 2: that isn't used to even for one that is used

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Speaker 2: every day for the rest of your life, is too

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Speaker 2: much money. It's wasteful. She then goes to defend that

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Speaker 2: by saying it's really, in the grand total of things,

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Speaker 2: not that much, because we've got billions of dollars, So

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Speaker 2: is half a million really that much? And that in

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Speaker 2: itself is of course the problem. Then she goes and

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Speaker 2: tells everybody how tough times are, which of course is true,

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Speaker 2: and because times are tough, she's gone and sold her

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Speaker 2: car to make ends meat. Now this is a woman

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Speaker 2: who and I didn't know this, she won one point

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Speaker 2: four million dollars on lotto in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 2: So one point four million dollars on lotter in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two plus you in one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year and she still can't make ends meat.

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Speaker 2: So this is the slightly awkward bit in delving into

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Speaker 2: people's personal circumstances. Can I suggest if you can't make

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Speaker 2: ends meat on one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a

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Speaker 2: year and you're having to sell your car, you're probably

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Speaker 2: not good with money. Now, if you're not good with money,

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Speaker 2: can I further suggest you probably shouldn't be in charge

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Speaker 2: of anybody else's So how come you are?

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Speaker 15: I'm a bit worried about this because Darling and tannas

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Speaker 15: that have told us the same thing, didn't she when

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Speaker 15: we suggested that perhaps being suspended on form?

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Speaker 7: Where are the dots there?

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Speaker 2: Green Glenn? Where are the dots?

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Speaker 14: Do we need some kind of financial advice for people.

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Speaker 2: In the Green Party? Yes? Probably ten minutes away from

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Speaker 2: eight cost.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Jaguar f Base News talks.

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Speaker 2: Edb away from it. So here's another teck in the

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Speaker 2: old Canterbury box. Movers on forrticulture and more companies are

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Speaker 2: looking to move south and they like the cheaper land,

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Speaker 2: they like the reliable water. Increasing reports of more apples,

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Speaker 2: more grapes, pack houses, processing factories anyway. Vegetable's New Zealand

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Speaker 2: chair John Murphy, he's among those who've actually made the

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Speaker 2: move in John's with Us John Morning, Morning, Mike. So

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Speaker 2: you moved from Marlborough, Yes, we did.

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Speaker 12: We started growing some garlic and shallots down there about

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Speaker 12: ten years ago and it hasn't all been sunshine on lollipops,

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Speaker 12: but we've grown some good crop down Do.

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Speaker 2: You feel the vibe? Is there a thing on in

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Speaker 2: Canterbury in terms of land and water and all of

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Speaker 2: those sort of decisions you have to make.

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Speaker 12: Look, wherever we have good land and good water available,

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Speaker 12: it certainly increases our options. So that's a really good thing.

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Speaker 12: But what I would say is it's not an extremely

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Speaker 12: simple process either. You can't just go from a proven

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Speaker 12: area where we grow so beautiful greens and hotta feno

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Speaker 12: or something like that and moving to another area without

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Speaker 12: some complexity involved.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and is that regular tree or is it logistical?

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Speaker 10: A little bit of both, a little bit of all

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Speaker 10: of the above.

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Speaker 12: So it's really good that the current government is prioritizing

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Speaker 12: water schemes. That's really important to us. What I would

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Speaker 12: say is that's needed in current areas as well as

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Speaker 12: ones where there's potential for growth as well. But there's

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Speaker 12: not much point in that if you don't sort the

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Speaker 12: other side of the equation as well, which is permitted activity.

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Speaker 12: So we need a national environmental standard, as I've talked

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Speaker 12: to you about before. If we get those things in place,

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Speaker 12: then there's actually really good opportunities out there.

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Speaker 2: Good are people cognizant of all of that and will

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Speaker 2: eventually get around to doing something about it or not?

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Speaker 12: I think so?

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Speaker 10: I think so.

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Speaker 12: We're working pretty hard on that. But it's great to

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Speaker 12: see things like rocket apples being grown in South South Canterbury.

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Speaker 12: That that's really really positive and will help us get

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Speaker 12: to that doubling of the export values. But also new

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Speaker 12: opportunities mean that we can keep supplying fresh, healthy vegetableced

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Speaker 12: in New Zealand and fedging the country. So that's fantastic

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Speaker 12: good that hought.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand was started a campaign this week for people

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Speaker 2: to support local I find it hard to believe that

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Speaker 2: people don't support local wouldn't you want to support local

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Speaker 2: fruit and vegetables.

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Speaker 12: Well, I say, I certainly would. And the reality is

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Speaker 12: that precious best the stuff that comes from here as

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Speaker 12: world class and we just want people to add one

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Speaker 12: more to their dishes as much as they can.

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Speaker 2: What about the Canterbury story they send to lack of

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Speaker 2: pack houses, stuff like that. If you start growing, will

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Speaker 2: those infrastructural things come, do you think?

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Speaker 10: Look?

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Speaker 12: Over time, I think they will, But I think there

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Speaker 12: just points to the fact that we need a national approach.

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Speaker 12: We need to be smart about these things. And quite

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Speaker 12: often what you see is there's good land available and

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Speaker 12: the people that know about that land are the people

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Speaker 12: that are farmed there for a while. So growers know

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Speaker 12: their own patch very very well. People that grow specific

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Speaker 12: products that haven't been grown in those areas know the products.

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Speaker 12: So about marrying the two together.

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Speaker 2: Good So good to catch up with you may appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. John Murphy Vegetables, New Zealand chair made

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Speaker 2: the move from Marble to Canterbury Canterbories going off if

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Speaker 2: I get time, and I should have done this earlier

1244
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: in the week, but there was a very good piece

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Speaker 2: of work talking about councils, and I alluded to it

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Speaker 2: last week, but I didn't have the numbers, and I

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Speaker 2: now do. So S and P Standard and Pause downgraded

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Speaker 2: a couple of councils, namely Wellington. I had to sell

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Speaker 2: my car and Hamilton, and there were numbers associated with

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Speaker 2: that when they downgrade. Because your debts so high, you

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Speaker 2: pay more interest on your debt. And I didn't have

1252
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Speaker 2: the numbers, but now I do. And it makes you

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: ill at the level of fiscal and competence in this

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Speaker 2: country and what councils are doing to us economically speaking.

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Speaker 2: But I'll come to that time later on when I

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Speaker 2: get a couple of moments. Got to brace ourselves for

1257
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: the Ginny and Mark show or the Mark and Jinny Show.

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Speaker 2: I suspect it'll have something to do with police and

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: gangs and crimes and stuff like that. We'll see how

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Speaker 2: we go.

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Speaker 16: That is next, demanding the answers from the decision makers,

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Speaker 16: the mic Hosking, Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 16: News togs DV.

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Speaker 21: I prefer to be quick.

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Speaker 2: We can't fix this, would you guess the y s?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, because all the songs sound exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. This could have

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Speaker 2: been made in nineteen ninety eight, twenty thirteen, or twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 14: It's actually a fun game to play.

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Speaker 15: Just put on any of their songs and do the

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Speaker 15: famous one over the top of it.

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Speaker 14: And if that's every single.

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Speaker 2: Time, is the refinement time?

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Speaker 15: If I lie here, if I just slay here, eat

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Speaker 15: the works?

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Speaker 2: Is that the sort of tell that you bring to

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Speaker 2: am dram.

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly that, which is why I don't do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Snow Patrol, the forest is the path. Quite nice. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I like that The forest is the path. Grasshopper twelve

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: tracks and fifty two minutes of snow patrol. If your

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: life was lacking snow patrol eight minutes past eight time.

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Speaker 2: Poor politics. Wednesday. That means Mark Mitchell's with us along

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Speaker 2: with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to both of you. I

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Speaker 2: really don't know. Do either of you get donations to

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Speaker 2: pay for clothing?

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Speaker 20: Okay?

1289
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Speaker 10: Should you allowance?

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Speaker 14: Do you do?

1291
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: Do you get an allowance?

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Speaker 12: Mark All, I'm very lucky that Sirah has got a

1293
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Speaker 12: much better fashion so I have, so I sort of

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Speaker 12: end up to.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that because I often. I mean,

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Speaker 2: not that you're not suentorially adequate, but it appears, it

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Speaker 2: appears you wear the same thing all the time, which

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Speaker 2: is which is a blue suit and blue tie and white.

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Speaker 12: I just foind it very easy. I don't need to

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Speaker 12: put too much thought to what I'm going to know.

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Speaker 2: No, it's quite right. Clive James started that many years ago,

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Speaker 2: wore the same thing every time on television, so you

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Speaker 2: never sort of criticized them, which is why I thought

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Speaker 2: of you, Ginny the other day. You were wearing last

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Speaker 2: week a very nice suit which was I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: very hard to tell with lights and all that, but

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Speaker 2: but it looked like tan yellow whatever with black black cst.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I bought it in what actually it was just

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Speaker 22: did a little shot in the Greaytown and I've had

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Speaker 22: it for years and it's just very comfy.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I never say no, never say it's comfy,

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Speaker 2: because that's no. No, don't say stuff like that. Don't

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Speaker 2: say it's comfy.

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Speaker 10: It's funny.

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Speaker 12: It's just blessed gold and the common tiro colors. So

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Speaker 12: it probably I don't.

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Speaker 22: Know, have to wear tartan, no mark.

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Speaker 2: You know that is true. You can I'm assuming Ginny

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Speaker 2: with the Commentario thing claim some credit given the investigation

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Speaker 2: was three years long, and that means roughly two of

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Speaker 2: them were yours. I guess yeah.

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Speaker 22: So Nover was the operation that kicked off in twenty

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Speaker 22: nineteenth and that was more focused from moneylaundering. So it

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Speaker 22: has been over three years exercise. But that's what happens,

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Speaker 22: you know, police. And full credit to Circintendent Franks Williams,

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Speaker 22: of which was him. He's an amazing police officer who

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Speaker 22: takes us work very seriously and once he's focused on

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Speaker 22: taking out a group of offenders, he's very determined and

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Speaker 22: usually gets the outcome he's looking forth. So it's great

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Speaker 22: for New Zealand to see such a huge operation of

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Speaker 22: myth in fetterman money, hondoring in general, misery pedling being

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Speaker 22: shut down by the police.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon mark you are making and trying not

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Speaker 2: to make this too political, but the police then let's

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Speaker 2: ask it this way. The police are making a genuine

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Speaker 2: dent at last in the gangs in general.

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Speaker 12: Oh, without a doubt. I mean this operation is quite

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Speaker 12: some of the outstanding policing and showcases just how good

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Speaker 12: our police are. And I just want to acknowledge them

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Speaker 12: full credit. I was down in christ Church when they

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Speaker 12: started the operation there and there we had over three

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Speaker 12: hundred police officers involved in this operation. So it's just

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Speaker 12: seeding result by them. Look, I think that you've seen

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Speaker 12: very clearly in the last eight months that there's been

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Speaker 12: a big change in the way that police are policing gangs.

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Speaker 12: They were taking over our provincial towns. They were doing

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Speaker 12: these convoy runs with our driving on time coming traffic

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Speaker 12: with a harassing and intimidating members of the public. That

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Speaker 12: stopped because the police have been said a very clear

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Speaker 12: direction that they're to put the proper resource in place.

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Speaker 12: Now they're using the police Eagle. We had three gang

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Speaker 12: runs last weekend the public that all public had their

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Speaker 12: own rights protected over and above the gangs. You don't

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Speaker 12: see them on the front pages of the paper anymore.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, we've still got a lot more

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Speaker 12: work to do, but we're definitely trepped in the right direction.

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Speaker 21: Good Jenny, Sorry, Carry, I was going to say that

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Speaker 21: the big wave we saw was when those five boat

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Speaker 21: ones got kicked out of Australia and came back in

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Speaker 21: Common Heroes was part of that wave and the risks that.

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Speaker 22: Now Australia have changed that law again that we could

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Speaker 22: say more coming back in the future, so that one

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Speaker 22: of flax and math and packed on the game landscape

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Speaker 22: in New Zealand. And now that Australian law has changed,

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Speaker 22: we need to watch carefully that we don't see another influx.

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Speaker 2: Do you, in your time in cabinet without giving cabinet

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Speaker 2: secrets away, did your government ever consider repatriating problematic Australians

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Speaker 2: back to Australia, And because we have historically chosen not

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, we did look at options and looked at that.

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Speaker 22: But the one problem is that Australian law is Australian

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Speaker 22: law and that sovereign and so a we so if

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Speaker 22: they change their law we have. All we can do

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Speaker 22: is negotiate and that's exactly what we get that part.

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Speaker 2: But we can send the bat like there's a broken

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Speaker 2: prison here at the moment for doing a lot in

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Speaker 2: christ it's a while back. Who was Australian We could

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Speaker 2: sign them?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, we just don't have that many. We could,

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Speaker 22: but we don't have as many. We do we do

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Speaker 22: when they're really bad, but we just don't have the

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Speaker 22: numbers Okay, so we do we.

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Speaker 2: Do do that, because my understanding.

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Speaker 10: Was we never do.

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Speaker 12: We do see them, but but the number is disproportionate. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: the number that we've seen it back to Australia as

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Speaker 12: much sport than the numbers are sending back to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, break, come back, carry on.

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Speaker 12: Now it's going to say, look, we raise us. The

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Speaker 12: Prime Minister has raised us with the Australian Prime Ministers,

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Speaker 12: with the Council of Ministers in Australia mel last week.

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Speaker 2: We raise this possibly, yeah, exactly, and you get nowhere. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: mind you, I five was Australian and I do the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Mike and Ginny Moore in a moment thirteen

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Speaker 2: past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zippi News Talks a sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson Ginny. I've been following with interest. I personally

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Speaker 2: think you're overegging it a bit, but nevertheless I understand

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Speaker 2: why you're doing it. Your your prosecution of Nicole m

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Speaker 2: Key and what she's trying to do with guns in

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Speaker 2: this country. What, in simple terms, is your great concern

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Speaker 2: about her being in charge of gun reform that.

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Speaker 22: She has proposed to wind back all changes we made

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Speaker 22: in twenty nineteen in the combination of just too much

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Speaker 22: she has she has. She said that she's pledged that

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Speaker 22: she well, she's wound back already what happens on the

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Speaker 22: gun range, which to create a loophole where you can

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Speaker 22: get our own now without recording it. She said she'll

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Speaker 22: keep a category weapons out of the registry, which is

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Speaker 22: seventy percent of features that police get it for legal guns,

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Speaker 22: and she won't rule out bringing back military style weapons.

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Speaker 22: Now when you've been for like the common heroes who

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Speaker 22: are using paramilitary training tactics and want to get their

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Speaker 22: hands on dat rius guns, and you've got someone proposing

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Speaker 22: to make it easy to get one, that's a real

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Speaker 22: risk for New Zealand public safety.

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Speaker 2: But that's all the illegal side of the equation, though,

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Speaker 2: isn't it, Which is the debate that came out of

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Speaker 2: christ Church whether law abiding citizens were being inconvenienced and

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Speaker 2: that if you were, you know, a bad bugger, you'd

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Speaker 2: still get your hands on weapons. And I mean, and

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Speaker 2: that's in that nothing's changed, does it.

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Speaker 22: Fifty percent of police investigations around diverted firearms. So legal

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Speaker 22: firearms that end up to be in the hands of

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Speaker 22: someone else revolve around licensed firearm owners. Know that licensed

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Speaker 22: fireum owners are purchasing with it and passing them a

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Speaker 22: criminals and the firearm READI Street is the best way

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Speaker 22: to track there. And police will say that, and I

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Speaker 22: think Mike believes.

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Speaker 5: That as well.

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Speaker 2: And you're behind the registry aunt you.

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Speaker 12: Mate, Yeah, absolutely, And but what what he's doing is

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Speaker 12: fear amonger. She's not the facts. Nicole McKee is the

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Speaker 12: Associate minist of Justice. She is doing a review of

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Speaker 12: the arm sect. The changes she made around them around

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Speaker 12: the hunting clubs was quite simply a technical one to

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Speaker 12: do with administration, and any changes that are going to

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Speaker 12: be made, any substantive changes were made will have to

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Speaker 12: go through cabinet. And none of the things that Ginny

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Speaker 12: has is talking about, it's been proposed.

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Speaker 22: Okay, well she hasn't had a change. You no longer

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Speaker 22: need to record the sales of firearms or amminition on

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Speaker 22: gun rangers. That's been done. And there are real concerns

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Speaker 22: I've heard from police that criminal can get onto Arrange

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Speaker 22: and pretending not purchased nine boxes of Blitz use three

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Speaker 22: and pocket the rest and there's no way of tricking

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Speaker 22: that now. Previously that couldn't be done, and now that can.

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Speaker 2: Be all right. So say Jenny's right, Mark, and what

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Speaker 2: what she suggests does come to pass or get before cabinet,

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Speaker 2: Are you, as policemanister, comfortable with them?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's fair for me to say that

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Speaker 12: anything Ginny says needs to be verified. But absolutely, Look,

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Speaker 12: this has got to go through a cabinet process.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. So say she's right, and it's in

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Speaker 2: front of cabinet now and you've suddenly got are you

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Speaker 2: comfortable with it?

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Speaker 12: So all I say is this, I can't talk to

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Speaker 12: future cabinet decisions that will be totally inappropriate. What I

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Speaker 12: say is this, this government is fully focused on making

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Speaker 12: the public safer, and com d is fully focused on

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Speaker 12: doing the same thing. When you look at her history,

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Speaker 12: she has been an advisor around public safety for a

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Speaker 12: long time on firearms. But the problem that we had,

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Speaker 12: as we had the last government, was focused in all

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Speaker 12: the wrong places. We've seen a massive pliffery the firearms

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Speaker 12: within the criminal fraternity and they are the ones that

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Speaker 12: are risk of the public.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you think Ginny as passionate as you may

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Speaker 2: be about the subject, it's actually one of those issues

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Speaker 2: that can turn the tide for a government or otherwise,

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Speaker 2: or in other words, most people who don't own guns

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Speaker 2: don't care.

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Speaker 22: I think it can, and I think Mark is deep down,

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Speaker 22: I think he is consumed because he knows that she

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Speaker 22: des public safety as her desires. But she gets regular

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Speaker 22: briefings from firearm's lobby. She's getting more information from them

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Speaker 22: from even her own officials, and we know that through

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Speaker 22: the OIA process. So she has got a very clear

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Speaker 22: agenda about making those high end military style weapons available

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Speaker 22: on ranges. And the risk is if they're available in rangers,

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Speaker 22: they can find their way into the hands of criminals,

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Speaker 22: and that is dangerous for New Zealand. And I think

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Speaker 22: Mark would know that because it's frontline police officers who

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Speaker 22: are most at risk when those guns get in the

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Speaker 22: wrong hands.

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Speaker 12: Well, so that most of my life has been dedicated

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Speaker 12: to public safety, in the safety of US as a country,

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Speaker 12: and I will not that anything happened, certainly while I'm

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Speaker 12: sitting in Kevin a cabinet that would that would do

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Speaker 12: anything to put the public at risk. And I know

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Speaker 12: that I'm completely united with all of my cabinet colleagues

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Speaker 12: across this coalition and government, and it's quite the opposite.

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Speaker 12: We're very focused on making our country one of the

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Speaker 12: safest countries in the world because we were beat rapidly

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Speaker 12: under the previous government.

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Speaker 2: Well said both of you. Well done, Mark Mitchell, Ginny

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Speaker 2: Anderson a twenty one breakfast with News Dogs. Now we've

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Speaker 2: all heard about the usual activities and retirement villages. You

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Speaker 2: got your nessing, your bowl and you're making Vida living

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Speaker 2: well communities, well they got those as well as a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of other you know, resident led to activities

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Speaker 2: which what basically it's what makes them a unix. So

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Speaker 2: there's activities and clubs like community garden groups and singing

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Speaker 2: groups and strength and balanced sessions, brew clubs, brew clubs,

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Speaker 2: e bike groups. There's no need to worry if you

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Speaker 2: haven't picked up a paintbrush before. For example, NEI they

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Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of their residents but they gave

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Speaker 2: it a go. And in one community there's a group

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Speaker 2: that beginners just and press of landscape paintings in an

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Speaker 2: art class. And that's because with the support of the

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Speaker 2: r VEDA team, residents can take control and come up

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Speaker 2: with the ideas and the initiatives around new activities and interests.

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Speaker 2: It's what ar Veda calls life your way with a

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Speaker 2: unique range of activities on office. So fill your days

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Speaker 2: with a variety of interests and groups and fund You'll

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Speaker 2: never know what you'll take on and when you can

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Speaker 2: use that untapped talent that you never knew you had.

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Speaker 2: So take a tour of a few r Veda communities

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Speaker 2: find out which one fits you, because they're very individual

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Speaker 2: sort of operations. Are Veda arv Ida, r Veda dot

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Speaker 2: co dot nz. You got it, r Veda dot co

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Speaker 2: dot nz oscar. Could we be heading for a famed

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Speaker 2: double dissolution election in Australia? Possibly not, the beIN seven

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Speaker 2: of them over the years fourteen fifty one, seventy four,

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Speaker 2: seventy five, eighty three, eighty seven and twenty sixteen. Essentially,

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01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 2: what happens is the government puts a piece of legislation

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Speaker 2: through who gets to the Senate. Senate rejects it. Then

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: they get a bit upset at that, and then they

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Speaker 2: try and do it again. If the Senate then rejects

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: it a second time, the government of the day goes

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: tell you what we're out. We're going to go to

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: the people and it happens. It probably won't happen this

1536
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: time for a variety of reasons, not that they've had

1537
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: a big bust up over housing and it probably won't happen.

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: There's Elbows furious, but it probably won't happen this time

1539
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: because mainly Elbow, as Murray I'm sure will tell us,

1540
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: is on the nose and if he went to the

1541
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: people now, he would be in all sorts of trouble.

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Speaker 2: What Murray's also going to tell us about is this

1543
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: little kreken Dan Andrews, who ruined Victoria. There's a report

1544
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: out of a detailed report that deals to a car

1545
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: accident that Andrews was involved in a number of years ago.

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Speaker 14: Is it's literally the plot from Rake, isn't it.

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: It's very, very, very similar. So Andrews and his wife

1548
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: are involved in a car accident. Police investigates say nothing

1549
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: to see here. This is a number of years ago.

1550
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: It's still heading to the Supreme Court because the victim

1551
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: of the accident, a young man as he was at

1552
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: the time, fifteen years old called Rye, is after some compensation.

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: A report is actioned the report finds it's implausible that

1554
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: one what Dan Andrews said happened happened, and two that

1555
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: what the police were told happened happened and what the

1556
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: police investigated and came to the conclusion of happened. None

1557
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: of it adds up. And that's before you get to

1558
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: the Dan Andrews decision around the Commonwealth Games, which is

1559
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: only going to cost them four hundred million dollars not

1560
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: to hold it because he's basically a decade. So Murray

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: Old's on that and other matters after the News, which

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Speaker 2: is next he reduws togs.

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Speaker 1: ZB your trusted source for news and views, the mic

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Speaker 2: Like those not becoming teachers are following their dreams into

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Speaker 2: other employment like YouTuber or influencer. It's funny you should

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01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: say that, Elan, there was some international research out the

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: other day and I've got it, but I don't have

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01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: time for it now. Fifty seven percent and they did

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: the numbers. We did the numbers here locally and next

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Speaker 2: to no one, this is through the ID, next to

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: no one who's called an influence when this country actually

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01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: makes any money. They make handfuls of dollars, but very

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: few people actually make a living out of it. And

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Speaker 2: it's not dissimilar internationally. And fifty seven percent of young

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Speaker 2: people and I think it was twenty four and under

1578
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 2: want to be an influencer, as though that's even a

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Speaker 2: real thing. Anyway, more on that later if I get time.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three to.

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Speaker 16: Nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 16: Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Trust to Tas Murray Old's greetings to you, Michael, good

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Speaker 2: morning headline. I read yesterday business chiefs confront PM for

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: taking economy backwards. It was a thing last night did

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: they did they get stuck into them?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes and no.

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Speaker 18: Very significant dinner here in Sydney last night Albanezi the keynote,

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 18: the keynote address, and this was the annual dinner for

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01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 18: the Business Council of Australia. So these are the heavies,

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 18: the bankers, the miners, the very big players at the

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01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 18: top end of the Australian economy, and they are kind

1594
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 18: of united, are saying, listen, you've got to start doing

1595
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 18: some decent reforms. Stop loading up the union side of

1596
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 18: this equation and bashing us all the time. Don't forget

1597
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 18: we're the ones who actually employ people. Now, it's not

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 18: just Albaneze's fault. I mean, the margins in Parliament over

1599
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 18: here are so fine. Not if Dutton was in now,

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 18: he wouldn't be taking on any big tasks either. It's

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01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 18: just too dangerous politically because you know, have a look

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01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 18: at the Senate over here.

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 18: Labour's got a pretty good plan to try and get

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01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 18: more people into housing, but for political reasons, the Greens,

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 18: who are extreme weirdos out there and the far you know,

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 18: the loony tunes out there, have sided possibly with the

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 18: Coalition to block this fairly modest labor housing initiative. That's

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 18: what we've come to here. And business says, listen, we're

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 18: getting caught in all of this.

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 7: They're worried that.

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01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 18: Labor is arming the union movement with these fairly well

1613
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 18: extremely broad in businessesses view ability to have pattern bargaining

1614
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 18: on wages and conditions across industries, not just work site

1615
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 18: by work site, but across industries. It's a very turbulent

1616
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 18: space over here now and the government last night was

1617
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 18: really in the spotlight. Alban Easy offered nothing that I've

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 18: been able to discern this morning to try and appease

1619
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 18: this business concern. But the union power, the growth of

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 18: union power is a very real and very serious policy

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 18: over here as far as business leaders are concern. They're

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 18: talking about red tape, green tape, and black tape, basically

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01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 18: strangling the joint and it's it's not going to go away.

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 2: No, it is not. And as regards the housing thing

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: that he's getting particularly upset about, I can I take it,

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01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: we can rule out a double the solution, although it's

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: not technically he's not going to the people, is he.

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Speaker 18: Look no, look for a couple of reasons. I mean, one,

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Speaker 18: you have to have the same bill defeated in.

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Speaker 10: The Senate.

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 18: Exactly, the same bill defeated in the Senate twice with

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01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 18: three months in between. So he's run out of time

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01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 18: for that. It's just a bit of political showmanship because look,

1634
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 18: having this fight with the Reserve Bank, it's not gonna

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01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 18: I mean, the Reserve Bank isn't going to bow to

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 18: the government. It just can't afford to do that because

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 18: the other side will get in next time.

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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 7: You know, I'll be under pressure from.

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 18: The conservative side. So what Albaneze is confronted with now

1640
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 18: is a diabolical situation. I mean he's losing union support,

1641
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 18: for example, the decision to put administrators into the powerful

1642
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 18: construction union. And he's losing business support because he's too

1643
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 18: chicking to take on any reform and will not listen

1644
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 18: to their concerns about union power.

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: I reckon he's going to be one term government.

1646
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 18: Well, we'll watch this space. I mean, the poles are

1647
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 18: very very tight now. And you and I have been

1648
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 18: sparring about this for the last two.

1649
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:59,440
Speaker 2: Years exactly, Dan Andrews. This report I read yesterday from

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: this poor kid Muleman, back in twenty thirteen. And I

1651
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: know this is in front of the court, and I

1652
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: know this as a bloke they've hired to write the report.

1653
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,480
Speaker 2: But when you read it, my word, it's compelling.

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01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 7: Well it is.

1655
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 18: And this guy isn't some you know, some halfway from

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01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 18: the corner store. This guy, he's now deceased, but he

1657
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 18: was asked to write a report. He wasn't at the

1658
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 18: time an assistant police commissioner in Victoria. So he's got

1659
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 18: a serious position. He's a serious police officer, a career officer.

1660
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,879
Speaker 18: And he said the whole situation around this accident involving

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 18: Daniel Andrews, his wife, the three kids in the car

1662
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 18: in a government funded vehicle knocking over a cyclist. He said,

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 18: the whole this police officer said, the whole investigation stunt

1664
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 18: to high heaven.

1665
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 14: The guy was hit so hard he flew.

1666
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 7: Over the top of the suv.

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01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 18: At the scene. Police did not breath test. Daniel Andrews

1668
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 18: did not to his wife. His wife gave her name,

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 18: her maiden name, and the obvious inference there, according to

1670
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 18: the critics, is that she was trying to minimize any

1671
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 18: publicity for a husband who was, of course a rising politician.

1672
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 18: The whole thing smells to high heaven. And yet Andrews

1673
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 18: and his wife have come out. I mean, this guy's

1674
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 18: as reel as a veterian shark. And my view, I mean,

1675
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 18: have a look at his performance in COVID.

1676
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 10: He was a joke.

1677
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 18: And they've come out yesterday saying that this is a conspiracy.

1678
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 18: Theory is dressed up as journalism. Let's wait and see

1679
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 18: if this has got any legs. But I'll tell you what,

1680
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 18: this whole thing smells to high heaven.

1681
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: The infancy, they were stationary, and the got t boned

1682
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: by the bike. This guy's report says they were at

1683
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: speed and doing a corner and as a result of

1684
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: the corner that they are on the wrong side of

1685
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: the road. And it's just yeah. And then and then

1686
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 2: you come to Daniel Andrews Part two, which is his genius.

1687
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 2: How he gets to write not anymore because he's not there,

1688
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: but a four hundred million dollar check to the Commonwealth

1689
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 2: Games people, who pass some of it on to Glasgow

1690
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: for his old do the games? No, I won't. I mean,

1691
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: what's the idea it does?

1692
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 14: That pathetic?

1693
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 18: I mean, this was the swaggering fool who said, oh,

1694
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 18: we can hold the Games next weekend. We've got the facilities.

1695
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 18: The guy was a complete muppet. There was no way

1696
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 18: known they could afford it. And you know, as the

1697
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 18: bills started mounting and as his government went further and

1698
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,520
Speaker 18: further down the toilet, just running out of cash.

1699
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 7: I mean, at the time they said.

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 18: You know it was going to cost whatever it was

1701
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 18: going to cost. I've just figured the exact figure, say

1702
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 18: one and a half billion dollars just to put the

1703
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 18: games on. All of a sudden, in eighteen months it

1704
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 18: went out to seven billion dollars. Andrews is all of

1705
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 18: a sudden saying, oh, we can't do it, We can't

1706
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 18: do it. How embarrassing. This is the country here. Look

1707
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 18: at the last Olympic Games. Although you know, on per

1708
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 18: capita basis, New Zealand kicked Australia in the bum of

1709
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 18: course at the Olympic Games in Paris. That Australia's held

1710
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 18: the Commonwealth Games five times. It's the Commonwealth bully. Look

1711
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 18: at the facilities we have over here. You're really telling

1712
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 18: me it's going to cost seven billion dollars. I mean,

1713
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 18: of course it's not. It's just nonsense. Victoria was running

1714
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 18: out of money, Andrews was drowning in his own you know,

1715
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,959
Speaker 18: self importance in Hubris.

1716
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 7: So Glasgow is.

1717
01:21:59,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 14: Going to get it and have it.

1718
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 18: Who's playing half a billion dollars to war Australian Muggins.

1719
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Is It's unreal And I'm still convinced that it's there.

1720
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 7: Was.

1721
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: It came along at the election time and he had

1722
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: the model, and the model was to go regional. It

1723
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: wasn't going to be held in Melbourne. It was all

1724
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: around the regions. He needed the regional vote, suck them in,

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Speaker 2: get them to vote for him. He got re elected. Whoops,

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Speaker 2: can't hold the games. I think that's good.

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Speaker 18: What this does?

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Speaker 10: I think?

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Speaker 18: And I've been covering Olympic Games for over thirty and

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Speaker 18: commor Games for over thirty years now. I've been to

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Speaker 18: a dozen of them. It just exposes, doesn't it, the

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Speaker 18: cost for individual cities of trying to bug these things on.

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Speaker 18: It's going to come to I mean, have a look

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Speaker 18: at the World Cup. It was shared between countries for goodness,

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Speaker 18: say South Korea and Japan.

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Speaker 14: It's going to go to that.

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Speaker 18: It's going to have swimming in Sydney and you know

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Speaker 18: track and Field and Brisbane or in Auckland and christ

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Speaker 18: Church and wellingcon will share it as well. The cost

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Speaker 18: of becoming prohibitive.

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Speaker 2: All right, make got imight to appreciate time. See Friday

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Speaker 2: Olds out of Australia. Here this Wednesday morning on the

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Speaker 2: Mike hosting Breakfast eight forty five.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve minutes away from line. Mike, do you

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Speaker 2: think Tory Fano and Dan Andrews a Facebook friend? It's

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Speaker 2: very funny, just quickly I grabbed that thing. I was

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Speaker 2: mentioning gen zs globally. This is fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: gen Z does want to be influencers, so more than

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Speaker 2: half of young people basically want to be that. They

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Speaker 2: think this is their future. There are four point two

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Speaker 2: billion these are interesting numbers, four point two billion social

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Speaker 2: media users in the world. Of those, two hundred million

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Speaker 2: are creators or individuals who monetize their audience. So two

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Speaker 2: hundred million out of four point two billion, only four

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Speaker 2: point seven percent make any real money from it. Most

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Speaker 2: of them, in fact, almost half make fifteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: or less, So there's no real dough in it. What

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Speaker 2: would you call a half decent didnt come fifty to

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Speaker 2: seventy five K, Well, ten percent can do that, seventy

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Speaker 2: five to one hundred k five percent. The real money

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Speaker 2: at two hundred plus is only seven percent, So very

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Speaker 2: few people ever actually go on to make any real

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Speaker 2: money out of influencing. So as much as you may

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Speaker 2: dream of it, it's not particularly real, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think of change. Just also on the council thing that

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Speaker 2: I alluded to, with the downgrade and credit ratings from

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Speaker 2: S ANDP to a number of councils around the country.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them have been stung. Wellington most famously

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Speaker 2: Double A Hut City Poriiruers City Bay a plenty regional

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Speaker 2: drop to double A minus, Horror fen who were downgraded

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Speaker 2: to A plus. Hamilton City absolute disaster. Wellington's got one

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Speaker 2: point seventy five billion dollars worth of debt. Hamilton the

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Speaker 2: downgrade to its one point oh four billion dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of debt. The council forecasting more than three hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars more money. Now what's the three hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's three hundred thousand dollars a year more for interest,

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Speaker 2: interest only, just the increase on the interest, not the

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Speaker 2: total interest bill, just the increase on the interest bill

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Speaker 2: on your debt. You're not paying off your debt, you're

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: not decreasing the amount you paying interest, You're increasing And

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Speaker 2: so that's applicable. Some of the other numbers around the

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Speaker 2: councils are a little bit smaller, depending on their debt levels.

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Speaker 2: But every time you downgraded, and councils are increasingly being

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: downgraded because they carry too much debt. Every time you're downgraded,

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Speaker 2: the cost of carrying that debt because you're at greater

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Speaker 2: risk goes up. So you are taking more money from

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Speaker 2: rate payers and putting it literally nowhere other than the

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Speaker 2: bank's back pocket. And what sort of way to run

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Speaker 2: a business is that? Ten away from nine the.

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Speaker 2: the all blacks pasking like what happens if a council defaults?

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Speaker 2: What an excellent question and the answer to that can

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Speaker 2: be contained in your research which can be your day's

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Speaker 2: homework in Britain, because there is no end of councils

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Speaker 2: in that particular part of the world where they go

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Speaker 2: we go. There is no end of councils in that

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Speaker 2: particular part of the world who are on the verge.

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Speaker 2: If not, bust and read up on where they are

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Speaker 2: and who they are and how the central government all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden has to become involved at the inaptitude

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Speaker 2: of local level. And it goes to that great debate

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Speaker 2: as to how much control local entity should have versus

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Speaker 2: how much control central should have. Local goes get out

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Speaker 2: of our lives, let us get on with the local

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Speaker 2: until of course they buggered they got no money. Then

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Speaker 2: they can't run to Wellington or London fast enough and

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Speaker 2: so it's well worth looking up. But it's a very

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Speaker 2: good question. I wouldn't be surprised before long of a

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Speaker 2: number of our councils are in that particular predicament. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the camast Warehouse, our prase invider would say,

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Speaker 1: on now.

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Speaker 2: Now we go back to that Trump Harris debate I

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01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: had earlier on there was a bit of a story

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Speaker 2: floating around about poles there set there was an indication

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Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't nail it down specifically enough to

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Speaker 2: present it on the program this morning, but there's an

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Speaker 2: inference that she got a bit of a bump out

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Speaker 2: of that particular debate. Anyway, for the first time one

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Speaker 2: of the hosts has addressed the criticism about the fact

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Speaker 2: checking in the way they conducted it. This is David Muir.

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Speaker 2: He was on another one of ABC shows and he

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Speaker 2: was asked about it.

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Speaker 23: I always say, as a moderator, you know what the

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Speaker 23: candidates decide to do with that time. You can ask

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Speaker 23: the questions, but they'll answer with whatever they choose to

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Speaker 23: answer with.

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Speaker 7: That's right, and you.

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Speaker 23: Have to be ready for whatever might come your way,

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Speaker 23: even the most unexpected of moments. As you all know,

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Speaker 23: you know what I'm talking about, and I will say this.

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Speaker 23: All of the noise that you hear afterward about you

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Speaker 23: know which candidate won the debate?

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Speaker 7: Did the moderators win or lose?

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Speaker 23: That's just noise. You all know that the most important

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Speaker 23: thing to remember is that you all have the power.

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Speaker 23: Everybody at homes the power.

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Speaker 15: I feel like there's an opportunity for you to run

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Speaker 15: courses and how to do these things properly. You know,

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Speaker 15: that's if you've got time after you've run the financial

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Speaker 15: security course with the Green Party.

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Speaker 2: Obviously exactly he honestly I watched those two I can't

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Speaker 2: even remember the woman's name, but they could have been

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Speaker 2: AI generated. They were so bad. And it's just they

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Speaker 2: could And he's right to the extent, and it's an

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Speaker 2: abdication of a moderator's responsibility to say, I asked the

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Speaker 2: question and they choose to do with it whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: What a pile of crap. Why not just have a

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Speaker 2: robot that goes, what what'd you do with em aggression?

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Speaker 15: And then let carry And also to say that who

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Speaker 15: won and who lost is just noise Yeah, isn't that

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Speaker 15: the point?

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Speaker 2: That is what the electoral process, Glenn is about. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: sometimes your genius, my genius just just blinds me, mesmerizes me.

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01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 2: But then you know, we're back to who's on tomorrow

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: after night?

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Speaker 7: Let's just start.

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01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Is Lee our old mate, Lee Child? I don't know

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Speaker 2: where we'll find him. Last time we found him in Colorado?

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Speaker 2: Was it Montana? I can't remember. Sort of moves around

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01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: America a lot, almost like check Riacher. Anyway, Lee Child

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Speaker 2: on the program tomorrow, Happy Days.

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