1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: More good news for the economy. So we got supermarkets. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: They've seen the lowest increase in supply costs since twenty one. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: This is the Grocery Supplier Index. Supplies charged on average 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: one point eight percent more on the year to February, 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: so that's not a bad number. That's the first time 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: we've seen anything below two percent since July of twenty one. 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: In for metrics principle, economist Brad Olsen's with us. Brad, 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: very good morning to you. 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Good morning. 10 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Have we settled into a stable period here? 11 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if we'd yet call it stable only 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: because the last couple of months the annual increase has 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: been slightly above two percent, so there's still a little 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: bit of volatility, but it's volatile around two percent. So 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: that's a lot more encouraging that, you know, either side 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: of that two percent line, it does look like those 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: supply cost increases are at a more sensible level when 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: certainly in line with where things have been in the 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: back before inflation rarely got rip roaring. Those supply costs 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: are still increasing, they're just a lot slower, and I 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: think that is generally helpful when it comes to that 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: price stability probably most importantly as well, we we are 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: still seeing that the likes of produce costs are showing 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: a bit more of their normal seasonality. You know, when 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: there has been a good growing season, there's more supply 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: on the market. That generally means that costs aren't quite 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: as high. On farm, costs have continued to come back. 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: So all of that is encouraging news. It's not perfect, 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: but it's in a much better position. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: And can we explain, like dairy will be up because 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: we're selling more at higher prices, chocolate, coffee, we know 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: the story with climate, et cetera. Can we explain all 33 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: of this or we're not there yet either. 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: A lot of things. I think we can. We do 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: have a fairly good understanding of why they're going up. 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: And I think what the difference is is go back 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: a couple of years and just that everything was increasing. 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: It's sort of a fairly similar but rapid clip. Now 39 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: you've got a few more specific items that are increasing 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: by often quite large magnitudes, but they are often driven 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: by global supply things, So you know, you note the 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: likes of dairy. We saw again this month that the 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: likes of butter was a key driver but also so 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: rising beef prices globally means that you know, there's a 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: bit more pressure on what you pay for beef in 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: the soupermarkets locally. But and I think this is where 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: it got interesting. You know, the likes of coffee and 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: chocolate we had, you know, we've got good explanations we've 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: seen that supply globally has been restricted. But a few 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: more items as well that we just keep our eyes 51 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: on a bit more cautiously, the likes of noodle, spaghetti, 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: baked beans. Those are not generally quite as inflationary, and 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: so the fact that there's been an increase, we just go, look, 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: there's obviously still a bit of pressure in the system. 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: It's in a better position, but we haven't taken our 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: eye off the ball yet. 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: Those two and a half thousand products have increased in cost. 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Is that normal? 59 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: A lot? 60 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Not many. It's sort of in a lower position for 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: what a February has been the last couple of years. 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: I think, you know, the reference point is twenty twenty 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: one at the moment. That's when things are a bit 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: more normal, bit more stable. So the number of increasing 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: items isn't nearly as bad as it has been the 66 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: last couple of years. It's still afo. It was back 67 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty sort of thing. But again I 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: think that's where we're trying to find this new normal. 69 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: We're not going back to twenty nineteen, but also we're 70 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: not staying stuck in twenty twenty two. So sort of 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: back in the right realm, I think is the position. 72 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: We'd say it. 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: Is always a pleasure. Bradley go Well Brad do Wlson 74 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: in for Metrics Principal Economists. For more from the Mic 75 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks it'd be from 76 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio