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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great New Zealandism. Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoon's full show, Pod number ninety for the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: of March in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It was a Wednesday. Boy, oh boy, that was a

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Speaker 2: great chat. Learn a lot about dogs. We learned a

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Speaker 2: shocking fact that you won't get to the end of

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Speaker 2: the show around dog leavings.

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Speaker 3: Disgusting fact. Disgusting, but very interesting.

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Speaker 2: They aren't the most disgusting thing in the world for

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Speaker 2: a dog. I guess that's not really effective. One knows

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Speaker 2: the dog's disgusting and do that kind of thing. Lots

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Speaker 2: of chats with x pets and some find us friendly,

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Speaker 2: some do not. And of course we went really really, really,

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Speaker 2: really really deep into wills and whether people are trying

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Speaker 2: to remove the gold teeth they want you gold from

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Speaker 2: our boomers on their yep. Yeah, all right, okay, then like, subscribe, follow,

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Speaker 3: Be good afternoon to you. Welcome into Wednesday. Hope you're

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Speaker 3: doing well wherever you're listening in the country. Great day

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Speaker 3: of your company as always, kiddo, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Get a Ti. I'm looking forward to Mark Vetti joining

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Speaker 2: us later after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's going to be a fantastic hour. He is

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Speaker 3: going to join us for an hour this time because

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Speaker 3: it was so popular last time. But just before we

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Speaker 3: go to the rest of the show, someone sent something

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Speaker 3: to me and it was on the back of we

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Speaker 3: all know she had a fantastic New Zealand band, one

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Speaker 3: of the best, had their last shows last weekend. But

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Speaker 3: this little bit of audio from the sold out event

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Speaker 3: at Spark Arena.

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Speaker 1: We played Altius into Artist Square and I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Matt he you know, he used to be.

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Speaker 4: An Dejo and I was talking to a.

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Speaker 5: Backstage and we just got to go on and then

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Speaker 5: someone comes.

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Speaker 1: Up to me and goes, hey, do you want to

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Speaker 1: meet the prime minister and it was Helen Clark and

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, see you later, Matt, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to talk to the Prime minister.

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Speaker 6: And he felt sad.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 3: So what's going on there? Well, what's the best crowd

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Speaker 3: of this story? That's a hell of a thing for

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Speaker 3: John too Good to just share with the crowd.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to unpack that for a second. So

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Speaker 2: he's telling a story. He's talking to me backstage. We

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Speaker 2: talked a lot she had back in the day my

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Speaker 2: band Deja Voda that he pretends not to remember. He

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Speaker 2: So he was talking to me and then someone said

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Speaker 2: you want to meet the Prime minister and then he

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Speaker 2: went and talked to her. And I was sad. Apparently, yeah,

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Speaker 2: was I said because I hadn't been invited to talk

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Speaker 2: to the prime mister? Or was I sayd because John too

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Speaker 2: Good was talking to the Prime minister. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what would Helen Clark even enjoyed she

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Speaker 2: trying to shut down the concerts there. I think she's

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Speaker 2: only really interested in classical music and opera. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if she had, you know, hard rocking ways would

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Speaker 3: Out of all the prime ministers, for John Good to

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Speaker 3: say to you, Sorry, Matt, I've got to go, Helen Clark.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what you know. You know, no

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Speaker 2: news as bad news, no it, all mentions are good.

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Speaker 3: Now exactly, we might have to get John on to

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Speaker 2: Whatever it killed him to say, Matt from Matt and

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Speaker 3: All right, Good to put that one to bed for now.

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Speaker 3: We might get John two got on the show at

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Speaker 3: some stage and figure it all out. But on to

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Speaker 3: the show. As you mentioned, Mark Vidi, he's on for

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Speaker 3: our Animal Behaviorist and this is an incredibly popular segment,

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Speaker 3: so it pays to get in early. If you've got

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Speaker 3: a question. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Andrews standing by.

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Speaker 2: As your cat or dog or rabbit crazy. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 2: help with it. So yeah, get an early nine two

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Speaker 3: On, absolutely after two o'clock. We didn't get a chance

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Speaker 3: to dive into this yesterday as we went a super

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Speaker 3: deep on hitchhiking chat, which was fantastic. But we want

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Speaker 3: to get into this today. Do we think we're actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So a investigation, no, a study you'd

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Speaker 2: call it, and to the countries that are most friendly

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Speaker 2: expats living in a country found that New Zealand was

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Speaker 2: way down the list, way down the list. Only two

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Speaker 2: and five ex pats living in New Zealand thought that

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Speaker 2: we were friendly, agreed with were friendly as opposed to

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Speaker 2: The people that are worse than us were Norway, Denmark

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Speaker 3: It's about time we beat them at something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they normally come number one on these happiness lists.

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Speaker 2: There's always there's normally Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Australia and New

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Speaker 2: some reason we're according to this, we're not as friendly

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Speaker 2: are we friendly? Have we invited you into your lives?

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Speaker 2: As Tyler said, we wanted to talk about this yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the avalanche. We couldn't get to this topic. But it's

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Speaker 3: I believe I'm very friendly, yep, and we love to

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Speaker 3: think we're friendly, but keen to hear from you if

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Speaker 3: That's after two o'clock, because right now, let's have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So there has been a request that's

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Speaker 2: ask me to give more money to charity. It's the

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Speaker 2: number of people dying about thirty seven thousand per year,

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Speaker 2: he says in New Zealand and the average wealth of

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand per person. So you put those

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Speaker 2: That thirty seven thousand was only twenty seven twenty years ago,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to move to sixty six thousand people

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Speaker 2: to charity. Yeah, he says only one point three percent

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Speaker 2: went to charity, which is actually a lot. It's three

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Speaker 2: wants it up round a billion. So how do you

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Speaker 2: feel about this because it seems to me, obviously people

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Speaker 2: and your first obligation obviously is to your kids, right

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Speaker 2: and to the people around you sometimes as long as

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Speaker 2: it be nice to you. Yes, are you doing that?

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Speaker 2: Are you are you planning to do? We owe it

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Speaker 2: to leave money to charity? Or have you across your life,

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Speaker 2: have you already in your taxes and the various things

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Speaker 2: in your life already already helped out enough? Does it

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Speaker 2: make you a good person to do that? If you

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Speaker 2: leave it, leave money to charity when you go out.

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Speaker 3: The more I think about this, and I know that

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Speaker 3: you think it's very cheeky of this particular gentleman saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to cark it, we want some of

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Speaker 3: that sweet sweet cash that you've got in your will,

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Speaker 3: so please remember us. But the more I think about it,

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Speaker 3: the more I think, what is wrong with leaving just

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Speaker 3: a little bit of money to a charity that you

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Speaker 3: deeply believe in? Because some people would look at that

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Speaker 3: there as a bit of a legacy to leave behind.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they sought the kids out of the kids'd be

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, if you want to do that, you should, But

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Speaker 2: it's just that relish, how excited he is about how

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Speaker 2: many more people are going to be dying and how

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Speaker 2: much more money is going to come into the system

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Speaker 2: and wants to grab that for charity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just.

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Speaker 2: Feels a little bit like digging up graves and removing

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Speaker 2: people's teeth. That's an unfair analogy, isn't it, Because just.

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Speaker 3: Let that hang for a bit.

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Speaker 2: That's as like saying, could you put my teeth in

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Speaker 2: the will? My gold teeth in the will? Yeah? But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, what do you think? Are

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Speaker 2: you planning to do that? Would you do it?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think, and it's easy for me to say

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Speaker 3: at the age of thirty nine, but I think I

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Speaker 3: probably would put that in my will with the proviso

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Speaker 2: But okay, put your money where your mouth. There is

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Speaker 2: what percentage of the huge wealth and I'm sure Tyler

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Speaker 2: Adams will have when he retire, when he passes away,

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Speaker 2: what percentage would you give to think is an amount

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Speaker 2: to give to charity?

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Speaker 3: Twenty k? Twenty k seems about right. Well, here's here's

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Speaker 3: I'm going to follow it up with. I am someone

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Speaker 3: that gives to charity on an ad hoc basis. It's

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Speaker 3: not a regular kind of thing that I do, and

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Speaker 3: not for any other reason other than it's kind of

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Speaker 3: just out of sight, out of mind. I'll give a

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Speaker 3: couple of bucks to the SBCF i see them with

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Speaker 3: their bucket out, but other than that, I don't really

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Speaker 3: give too much. So at the end of my life,

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Speaker 3: if I haven't been someone that has been given that

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Speaker 3: much to charities that I believe in, that would be

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Speaker 3: a nice thing to do. As we send off to

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Speaker 3: say I believe in that you is a charity, and

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Speaker 3: here's twenty K, thirty K, forty k as my parting gift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I'm good on you, and absolutely it's

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Speaker 2: a fantastic thing to do. But that's just here talking

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Speaker 2: ralishing the amount of people that are dying. This guy

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Speaker 2: thirty seven thousand per year currently was only twenty seven

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and it's going to move to sixty

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Speaker 2: six thousand people dying every year between now and twenty fifty.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. How do you feel

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Speaker 3: There'd be good afternoon, and we're talking about giving to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And I say, personally, your first responsibility is obviously to

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Speaker 2: that's what she wanted. Then that's good. You're going to

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Speaker 3: That would slightly gall me, though he's not even slightly

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Josh, how

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Speaker 9: Hey boys, yeah, good good, Yeah, a good yarns A

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Speaker 9: little bit too much excitement there from you, madie. How

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Speaker 2: I mean this guy is saying thirty seven thousand this year, Josh, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But in another fifty years, will we sixty six thousand

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've just lost, Josh, but we'll get them back.

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Speaker 3: Very shortly. But just to repeat some more of these

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Speaker 3: currently about three hundred and twenty million was left to

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Speaker 3: I quote that isn't bad, but it could be one billion.

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Speaker 2: He wants to pull one billion dollar worth of gold

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Speaker 11: Believe, yeah, sorry about that.

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Speaker 9: No, hey, no, mady, I liked your thoughts around where's

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Speaker 9: the money going? Like, as an example, if you do

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Speaker 9: like is it all going to the bureaucratic top end

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Speaker 9: But yeah, how much of the money do they raise

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Speaker 9: the other thing I'd like to know. If I'm going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I suppose that. You know, if you were

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Speaker 12: I do.

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Speaker 9: I do feel for the collectors because I'm continuously giving

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Speaker 2: You, cool Josh, I appreciate it. Yeah. I mean, in

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Speaker 2: the perfect world, you would bring up children, you would

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Speaker 2: and you would bring children into the world that had

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like if you're isn't it kind of

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Speaker 2: They're terrible people when they are not going to give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good point. Don't ndred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty seven past one, and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: giving two charities in your will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This guy John McLeod, part of the financial advisors JB. Ware,

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Speaker 2: There was a study, there was a report put into it,

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Speaker 2: and he said, they basically want to lift the amount

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Speaker 2: It's currently one point three percent. That's pretty good, three

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Speaker 2: three percent, even four percent off you when you're to die.

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Speaker 2: Tashas I donate to local grants through lotto, so I

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Speaker 2: time accounts. There's a few people saying that give you that, guys,

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Speaker 2: I can do frequently. I can frequently make donations directly

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Speaker 2: so called charities because of the siphoning of the donated

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Speaker 2: funds by administrators. Yes, I've observed this firsthand. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you can just go and give money straight

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Speaker 3: Yep, very true. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 7: Hello, how are you good? Good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good good. So you've been in a situation similar to

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Speaker 11: That's right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, In the UK there's a forty inheritance tax, so

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Speaker 8: I believe that something like the threshold is five hundred

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Speaker 8: she didn't have to pay the tax. So the guy

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Speaker 8: all you've got to do is bring an inheritance tax

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Speaker 2: What do you think of an inheritance tax. I've got

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Speaker 2: and the government says, naw, forty percent of that's mine.

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Speaker 3: I hate it. I mean it's tripled up in, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: They've already paid tax on the money they've paid, takes

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Speaker 3: their whole life on those earnings and their inheritance, and

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Speaker 3: then the government wants another cut of it. Anyway, there's

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Speaker 3: thought your thoughts, Mark.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's fair enough, but look at it as this

443
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Speaker 8: point of view. I mean, you've worked all your life, right,

444
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Speaker 8: there's the biggest transfer of wealth. Of wealth is going

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Speaker 8: to happen in the future if you bring inheritance tax

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Speaker 8: and then you have a point where it's say, I

447
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Speaker 8: don't know, say a million dollars or two million dollars

448
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Speaker 8: before tax, and then you tax it a forty percent

449
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Speaker 8: and you say, right, if you donated a charity, no tax,

450
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Speaker 8: So there's still enough money to leave in your will

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Speaker 8: to your children and what have you. And the people

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Speaker 8: that are seriously, seriously wealthy, why not, I mean me personally,

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Speaker 8: I haven't. I've got one kid in the UK and years,

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Speaker 8: I mean a while the previous government was talking about

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Speaker 8: a wealth tax. Well, realistically, I don't really want to

456
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Speaker 8: pay a wealth tax because I've got to live. I

457
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Speaker 8: don't know how long I'm going to have to live.

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Speaker 8: But basically inheritance tax, I've got no problem with an

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Speaker 8: inheritance tax because I'm gone, I'm dead. You mean that

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Speaker 8: taxed me then when I'm gone, because at least I

461
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Speaker 8: don't have the stress of stress of living is going off?

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Speaker 8: Excuse me, can't afford to pay the electric bill, can't

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Speaker 8: afford to pay this bill because they're taking a wealth

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Speaker 8: tax of one percent every year and it's money I

465
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Speaker 8: haven't even got, So tax me when when I'm gone,

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Speaker 8: No problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah with then? Hereton tax in the UK mark is

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Speaker 2: that your assets, your property, all of it? Is that

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Speaker 2: all taken into.

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Speaker 8: Everything, everything yet the whole lot. So basically, if your

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Speaker 8: net worth, say two million, five hundred thousand is basically

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Speaker 8: tax free, and it starts off at three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 8: Then I think it goes to five thousand of the maximum.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how it works, but there's a there's

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Speaker 8: a thing anyway that's getting into the nuts and bolts

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Speaker 8: a bit. So you'll be taxed at forty percent on

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Speaker 8: one point five million, and that's a lot. That's like

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Speaker 8: six hundred thousand pounds go into the tax office.

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Speaker 3: And sorry, sorry to jump in there, Mark, but we're

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Speaker 3: going to get to the headline shortly. But you didn't

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Speaker 3: mind yourself that your mother did that. That was a

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Speaker 3: way for her to get around that text. But that

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Speaker 3: also meant that you missed out on that inheritance.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, she's worked for

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Speaker 8: her life, she's done that. She told me for years,

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to leave you the thing, not going

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Speaker 8: to leave you anything told boy. And then at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, it doesn't really matter that much,

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Speaker 8: does it, because it's up to her what she does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for your call. Mark.

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Speaker 2: Sure about the inheritance text, I feel I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it just feels morbid that the government goes

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Speaker 2: and you're on your way out. So I'll take some

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Speaker 2: of what you earned. And you know, I would like

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Speaker 2: to think in my life I would be in a

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Speaker 2: position to hel my grandchildren's out. Yeah, my grandchildren out

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Speaker 2: in some regard anyway. One hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: nine two nine two. There are calls for New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: to donate more money in their worlds to charity. Currently

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Speaker 2: we're donating three hundred and twenty million a year. This guy,

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Speaker 2: John McLeod wants that to go up to a billion,

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Speaker 2: all right, as it's stealing gold from the teeth of

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Speaker 2: dead people.

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Speaker 3: What do you think go one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: as a number to call nine to nine Tales of

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Speaker 4: Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, having a great discussion about

532
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Speaker 3: giving to charity. The largest ever intergeneraational wealth transfer is

533
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Speaker 3: under way around the world, and the charities would like

534
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Speaker 3: a little bit of that cash.

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Speaker 2: Mind, now I need to work on my analogy, on

536
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Speaker 2: my metaphor around Is this grulish? Is this just trying

537
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Speaker 2: to take gold teeth? Dig up graves and take gold teeth.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't call nana's gold teeth.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't quite work. But is it hassling Nana for

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Speaker 2: her gold teeth? Is this what that is? And isn't

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Speaker 2: the right thing to do in life to bring up

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Speaker 2: children that are charitable through their life. I'm a big

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Speaker 2: believer in charity across all things, within your family, within

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Speaker 2: your community, everywhere. Again, sure, but isn't the idea in

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Speaker 2: life to bring up children that share those views of charity?

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Speaker 2: And then you give you write them into the will,

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Speaker 2: and then you think that they will well, you know

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Speaker 2: that they will continue your good work into the future.

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Speaker 2: And that's a transfer not just of wealth, but of

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Speaker 2: knowledge and morals. Isn't that the system? That's when the

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Speaker 2: system's working, rather than just hassling people for another four

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Speaker 2: percent of this stuff on their way out the door.

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Speaker 3: It's a lovely ideal that you've just mentioned there, But

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Speaker 3: how many times would they say, now, kids I'm a

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Speaker 3: massive supporter of animal charities SPCA look after them with

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Speaker 3: this inheritance, I'm going to give you here's a million

557
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Speaker 3: bucks each. How many times would the kids say yep, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Mum and dad and then just go buy a boat.

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Speaker 2: Well, that means that you haven't succeeded and bring your

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Speaker 2: kids up and then that's a bummer. But you in

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Speaker 2: the as I say, in the perfect world, that's the situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm also a find it a bit weird. I love animals,

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Speaker 2: love my dog Colin, love animals. But I also think

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Speaker 2: it's a weird thing when people give money to animals

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Speaker 2: charities when they die and not human charities, because I

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Speaker 2: think there's so much human suffering in the world and

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Speaker 2: we need to sort that out first, I would think.

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Speaker 3: I think, on a philosophical argument, you're absolutely right. But

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why I give to animal charities is

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Speaker 3: because I think there's more people that think your way

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Speaker 3: than that think like I do, that animal charities deserve

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Speaker 3: my money more than the human charities, because that to me,

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Speaker 3: the animals suffering are more vulnerable. But I get your point.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more people like you out

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Speaker 3: there that would say, hey, animals are down the list.

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Speaker 2: So we might give to tell you what Tyler, you

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Speaker 2: know what animal charity is. Every time I take my

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Speaker 2: dog Colin to the vet's that's about five percent of

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Speaker 2: my income at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Insurance ped insurance Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighties Radical,

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Speaker 3: welcome to the show your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm a little bit more on the government side.

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Speaker 5: So I'm the treasurer for the Wellington Area Committee for

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Speaker 5: Heart to Honey Saint John oh And in Wellington. In

585
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Speaker 5: Wellington we do not have an ambulance service. So but

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Speaker 5: what we do is we fund five or six different activities.

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Speaker 5: We fund Faery Pets for the mental health, Friends of

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Speaker 5: d car and Caller, a youth program for about one

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty kids, and also a community services budget

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Speaker 5: which we then fund things like first aid courses for

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Speaker 5: volunteers at charities, ads and first aid kits and a

592
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Speaker 5: whole bunch of other little bits and pieces. I can

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Speaker 5: tell you now is that we would not survive if

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Speaker 5: we did not get donations from the public. And there

595
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Speaker 5: is a very small element of that which are bequeaths

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Speaker 5: and also a couple of Valentonians have been quite well off.

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Speaker 5: They've passed and they've created a trust and then we

598
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Speaker 5: get a little bit of money from that trust every

599
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Speaker 5: year on application. So New Zealanders are fantastic for volunteering

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Speaker 5: as individuals.

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Speaker 11: Whether it's at a school, rugby team when you first start,

602
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Speaker 11: or sport right through too.

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Speaker 5: Those that turn up at hospital, the oldest at drive

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Speaker 5: health shuttles and all that sort of stuff up and

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Speaker 5: down the country. So I do encourage people that if

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Speaker 5: you do have a feeling that you've been rescued by

607
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Speaker 5: an ambulance or somebody's done your good deed or whatever,

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Speaker 5: then give that to that charity rather than one out

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Speaker 5: of the blue. For example, it's mental health challenges. A

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Speaker 5: few years ago I went and did an outward Bound

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Speaker 5: course as a.

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Speaker 11: Fifty five year old.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 11: She was a bit of a challenge made I've had you.

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Speaker 11: I got through it.

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Speaker 5: But what I've done is in my will I've given

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Speaker 5: them ten grand to let three kids go on a

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Speaker 5: course once I passed. So that's giving something back with

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Speaker 5: a purpose. I'm just saying, here's fifty grand to do something,

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Speaker 5: have a little bit more thought about it. But we

621
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Speaker 5: would not survive, and a lot of the underprivileged, the poor,

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Speaker 5: those and injuries, those in mental health will not be

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Speaker 5: in this world unless.

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Speaker 11: We meet some assistance by fundraising. That's the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Do you have the bord it? Do you have kids, Chris?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I had three adult kids. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you say about my thought experiment? I

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Speaker 2: guess you'd call it maybe not, But I was just

630
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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, if your kids have been brought

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Speaker 2: up with the same morals, and it sounds like you've

632
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Speaker 2: got fantastic morals, Chris, that if you left the money

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Speaker 2: to them, then they would be doing charity in real

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Speaker 2: time and being able to across their lives. I'm adding

635
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Speaker 2: a bit to what I said before, across the across

636
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Speaker 2: their lives make decisions with the information in hand, of

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Speaker 2: a charitable nature, with the morals that you've passed down

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Speaker 2: to them.

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Speaker 11: So I've got two sides to that.

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Speaker 5: One one it would be a great ideal world if

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Speaker 5: that happens.

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Speaker 2: The problem we've got.

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Speaker 5: The problem we've got is we've got an economical science,

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Speaker 5: we've got our world that they live in, We've got

645
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Speaker 5: their desires, and also they've probably got a partner and

646
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Speaker 5: or children. And if we're facing a seven hundred thousand

647
00:30:38,853 --> 00:30:41,773
Speaker 5: dollars house bill and they're not getting there because they're

648
00:30:41,933 --> 00:30:44,293
Speaker 5: not quite up around the hoigh money, that's a challenge.

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Speaker 5: The second sider though, if they gave a donation, they'd

650
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Speaker 5: get a third back from tax, So it's not like

651
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Speaker 5: it's not like three hundred thousand dollars is being given

652
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Speaker 5: to a charity. It's three hundred thousand dollars been given

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Speaker 5: and they get one hundred thousand dollars back in tax,

654
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Speaker 5: So there's actually a little bit of a curveful there

655
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Speaker 5: that might help them.

656
00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:07,973
Speaker 2: It's so I'd say great and good on people that

657
00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:10,413
Speaker 2: do it, but I just feel a little bit odd

658
00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:12,613
Speaker 2: about people being hassled like you're not a good person

659
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:16,293
Speaker 2: if you don't do it. In my opinion, looking after

660
00:31:16,293 --> 00:31:19,493
Speaker 2: your kids and your grandkids is your first first priority,

661
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Speaker 2: and then after that then some charity. Hey I've got

662
00:31:22,493 --> 00:31:23,693
Speaker 2: a question for you, Chris, and you might not be

663
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Speaker 2: able to answer it. Answer this, but I came across

664
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Speaker 2: this isn't a medical question, it's a functional question, and

665
00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:32,733
Speaker 2: it's all cond It's not Wellington. But I came me

666
00:31:32,773 --> 00:31:34,853
Speaker 2: and my neighbor came across a person that was unconscious

667
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,733
Speaker 2: on the street last Friday. Yeah, and we called you.

668
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Speaker 11: I heard that the other day.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah right, and we came and we called an ambulance.

670
00:31:43,973 --> 00:31:46,413
Speaker 2: We've gotta be careful and normally I animally say ambulance

671
00:31:46,453 --> 00:31:48,813
Speaker 2: and the text machine fires up due to my terrible pronunciation.

672
00:31:49,493 --> 00:31:51,973
Speaker 2: And when they came, when Saint John comes, they were

673
00:31:52,053 --> 00:31:53,813
Speaker 2: absolutely amazing, but it took them an hour and a

674
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Speaker 2: half to get there. So is there a priority list?

675
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Speaker 2: So when that happens, is that because there's strokes in

676
00:32:00,173 --> 00:32:03,173
Speaker 2: the area and they have to basically make these really

677
00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:05,093
Speaker 2: hard decisions on who's the person that they're going to

678
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Speaker 2: go to first.

679
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Speaker 5: So as far as any emergency services or hospitals concerned,

680
00:32:11,493 --> 00:32:15,333
Speaker 5: heart trumps everything, right, So if the heart has stopped,

681
00:32:15,853 --> 00:32:18,733
Speaker 5: that is the prioriti one. But if the heart is

682
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Speaker 5: working but there's bleeding, that all priority. So I'll give

683
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Speaker 5: you an example. Three years ago, I had an i

684
00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:27,533
Speaker 5: Tilly's tenant in the bush. I came out for two months.

685
00:32:27,573 --> 00:32:30,453
Speaker 5: They told them to wear the boot. I had a massive.

686
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Speaker 11: Pomy embolism with a clot that went up through my legs,

687
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Speaker 11: through my heart and blocked the wide junction to my

688
00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:39,413
Speaker 11: lungs and I collapsed at home. Okay, when I woke

689
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Speaker 11: up sometime later, I had pulled my phone down. I

690
00:32:41,813 --> 00:32:43,493
Speaker 11: called the phone, did the one on one thing, etc.

691
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Speaker 5: And then the lady said, if you get any worse,

692
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Speaker 5: call us back now. For me to call them back,

693
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Speaker 5: I would have to be dead right now.

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Speaker 11: I then put it.

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Speaker 5: And because we teach our youth about the person would

696
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Speaker 5: stay on the phone, will help you.

697
00:33:00,053 --> 00:33:02,613
Speaker 11: Through whatever you do. When I teach CPR, I.

698
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Speaker 5: Say that the operator will could well help you do

699
00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:07,733
Speaker 5: CPR no idea what to do? So I put a

700
00:33:07,773 --> 00:33:10,053
Speaker 5: complaint in one does well, Actually there's more of a

701
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Speaker 5: can you help me understand why you did that. I

702
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:16,053
Speaker 5: got a call back saying sorry that you felt that way.

703
00:33:16,213 --> 00:33:17,693
Speaker 5: And I've been in the army and stuff, and that

704
00:33:17,813 --> 00:33:20,733
Speaker 5: was the most alone moment in my sixty odd years

705
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Speaker 5: of life. But what the guy said was is that

706
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Speaker 5: you were breathing, although with severe difficulty, You were conscious,

707
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Speaker 5: you were aware, and we had one on one call

708
00:33:33,493 --> 00:33:36,653
Speaker 5: stacking up right. Yeah, so we had to hang up

709
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Speaker 5: and call somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad you're right, Chris. Yeah, it sounds

711
00:33:40,293 --> 00:33:42,173
Speaker 2: like a terrified question.

712
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Speaker 7: And listen.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a magnet for oshites at

714
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Speaker 5: the moment. So I've called one on one six times

715
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Speaker 5: to the end of February this year, four related to

716
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Speaker 5: medical things and two related to police related matters. Now what,

717
00:33:57,573 --> 00:33:59,813
Speaker 5: I've been really pleased with those. And there was one

718
00:33:59,813 --> 00:34:01,613
Speaker 5: incident where there was somebody falling over the middle of

719
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Speaker 5: the road, and see you what was really great was

720
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Speaker 5: all the other motives who pulled.

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Speaker 11: Over to give a hand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and that was some people that were aware,

723
00:34:10,453 --> 00:34:12,653
Speaker 5: some people that the trap had they have that traffic

724
00:34:12,773 --> 00:34:14,933
Speaker 5: hard drive turned up, so they still did the road

725
00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:18,213
Speaker 5: traffic and that was really cool until the ambulance finally

726
00:34:18,213 --> 00:34:20,413
Speaker 5: got there and listener did take forty odd minutes, but

727
00:34:20,573 --> 00:34:23,653
Speaker 5: we had a guy breathing, unconscious on the ground, moaning

728
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:25,093
Speaker 5: but alive.

729
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's in that priority stat.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, as the guys that were driving past in their

731
00:34:31,053 --> 00:34:33,573
Speaker 5: four white fours were going, you off the bloody robe,

732
00:34:33,653 --> 00:34:34,373
Speaker 5: what are you doing?

733
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Speaker 2: They're bad people, yeah, bad people. But yeah, so glad

734
00:34:38,213 --> 00:34:40,212
Speaker 2: that you came out of that, all right, that that

735
00:34:40,493 --> 00:34:42,493
Speaker 2: health incident you had. But yeah, that's what I was

736
00:34:42,493 --> 00:34:44,293
Speaker 2: thinking the other day when this guy went down, and

737
00:34:44,293 --> 00:34:46,253
Speaker 2: obviously what's happened here is because we could talk to him.

738
00:34:46,253 --> 00:34:48,693
Speaker 2: He was surrounded by people. He knocked himself unconscious, but

739
00:34:48,693 --> 00:34:50,213
Speaker 2: he could vaguely talk. He was doing a bit of

740
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 2: bleeding that he was put down the list for Saint John's.

741
00:34:53,013 --> 00:34:55,613
Speaker 2: But one thing that did strike me that there was

742
00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:58,373
Speaker 2: there was me and my neighbor were standing around him,

743
00:34:58,373 --> 00:35:00,733
Speaker 2: and more people were standing around him. Then everyone, a

744
00:35:00,773 --> 00:35:03,453
Speaker 2: bunch of people stayed and looked after him until the

745
00:35:03,653 --> 00:35:06,173
Speaker 2: ambulance came. And you hear all the stuff about people

746
00:35:06,213 --> 00:35:09,013
Speaker 2: being you know, selfish and stuff. I was just watching

747
00:35:09,053 --> 00:35:11,133
Speaker 2: these people turn up and I was like, you know, we're.

748
00:35:10,973 --> 00:35:14,453
Speaker 3: Good, You're all right, New Zealand, are all right? All right?

749
00:35:14,573 --> 00:35:14,973
Speaker 2: All right?

750
00:35:15,293 --> 00:35:15,613
Speaker 7: Okay?

751
00:35:15,933 --> 00:35:18,093
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

752
00:35:18,133 --> 00:35:20,493
Speaker 3: call if you're going to leave money to charity and

753
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,373
Speaker 3: you will love to hear from you. Is it important

754
00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,333
Speaker 3: to do that? It is thirteen to two.

755
00:35:25,893 --> 00:35:29,533
Speaker 1: Mattith Tyler Adams with you is your afternoon rolls on

756
00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:33,693
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety attention

757
00:35:33,773 --> 00:35:35,613
Speaker 1: to detail and a commitment to comfort.

758
00:35:35,773 --> 00:35:36,413
Speaker 2: News talks.

759
00:35:36,413 --> 00:35:38,013
Speaker 3: They'd be ten to two.

760
00:35:38,213 --> 00:35:39,493
Speaker 2: Are there are calls for more? Can we used to

761
00:35:39,533 --> 00:35:42,253
Speaker 2: leave money in their wills to charities as the biggest

762
00:35:42,293 --> 00:35:44,533
Speaker 2: transfer of wealth and history is about to go down.

763
00:35:45,093 --> 00:35:50,013
Speaker 2: Is this morbid charity mugging yeah and hassling or is

764
00:35:50,053 --> 00:35:52,692
Speaker 2: this a beautiful, beautiful thing? Your thoughts on eight hundred

765
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:55,733
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty nine to nine to two, Bob,

766
00:35:55,813 --> 00:35:56,533
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

767
00:35:58,413 --> 00:36:04,933
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi guys. Yeah. My biggest concern, so there are

768
00:36:05,013 --> 00:36:10,613
Speaker 10: eighteen thousand registered charities is in New Zealand and I

769
00:36:10,773 --> 00:36:17,093
Speaker 10: find that absolutely astonishing, and they all are away on

770
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:23,293
Speaker 10: a tax free basis, and my feeling is that it

771
00:36:23,453 --> 00:36:28,333
Speaker 10: really turns in at the end of the day to

772
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Speaker 10: be a job for the boys. I don't know how

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00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:35,173
Speaker 10: much of that money actually goes for what you're trying

774
00:36:35,173 --> 00:36:39,093
Speaker 10: to contribute to that. I don't think it's a lot.

775
00:36:40,173 --> 00:36:43,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean on that, Bob. And granted there's a

776
00:36:43,293 --> 00:36:47,333
Speaker 3: lot of so called charities and quotation marks that are arguably,

777
00:36:47,893 --> 00:36:50,133
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit dodgy. But for the ones

778
00:36:50,173 --> 00:36:53,013
Speaker 3: that are legitimate, do you think they've got processes in

779
00:36:53,013 --> 00:36:55,613
Speaker 3: place that we can see how transparent they are with

780
00:36:55,893 --> 00:36:56,773
Speaker 3: where the money goes?

781
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:04,573
Speaker 10: Well, I think they should be to provide what percentage

782
00:37:04,773 --> 00:37:10,493
Speaker 10: of those donations go to where needs to go instead

783
00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:12,133
Speaker 10: of just saw the administration.

784
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:14,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.

785
00:37:14,133 --> 00:37:18,093
Speaker 10: So much turns out to these jobs for the boys.

786
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your caol Bob. It

787
00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:22,172
Speaker 2: sounds like Bob's either turning a corner where he's got

788
00:37:22,213 --> 00:37:24,453
Speaker 2: like a clip clop pony coming up behind him in

789
00:37:24,453 --> 00:37:27,652
Speaker 2: the car. But yeah, I mean, I guess you'd want

790
00:37:27,653 --> 00:37:29,413
Speaker 2: to do the due diligence when you say you've got

791
00:37:29,573 --> 00:37:32,732
Speaker 2: eighteen thousand charities. When you start a charity and there's

792
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 2: already another charity that's doing the same thing as you do,

793
00:37:36,213 --> 00:37:38,093
Speaker 2: you go, well, maybe I should just be part of

794
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:41,533
Speaker 2: that charity. So I mean, in that eighteen thousand charities,

795
00:37:41,573 --> 00:37:43,333
Speaker 2: a lot of them are doing the you know, trying

796
00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:44,213
Speaker 2: to help the same people.

797
00:37:44,293 --> 00:37:46,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them would be vanity projects. Let's be

798
00:37:46,733 --> 00:37:47,373
Speaker 3: honest here, do.

799
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:48,853
Speaker 2: We need to bring in an audit where we get

800
00:37:48,853 --> 00:37:51,533
Speaker 2: people together and someone goes through and goes, you're actually

801
00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:53,733
Speaker 2: the same charity. You're together so we can cut on

802
00:37:53,773 --> 00:37:55,933
Speaker 2: the administration on you. You're the same charity. You're a

803
00:37:55,973 --> 00:37:57,933
Speaker 2: load of rubbish. Get out, what are you doing this?

804
00:37:58,133 --> 00:37:59,813
Speaker 2: This is a vanity project.

805
00:37:59,613 --> 00:38:02,173
Speaker 3: A bit of amalgamation. Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and

806
00:38:02,173 --> 00:38:05,053
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We're going

807
00:38:05,093 --> 00:38:07,133
Speaker 3: to play some messages, but we'll come back with more

808
00:38:07,253 --> 00:38:11,172
Speaker 3: of your phone calls. It is eight minutes to two.

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00:38:11,693 --> 00:38:15,333
Speaker 1: Matteath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

810
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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

811
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Speaker 1: XC ninety tick every box, a seamless experience awaits news

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Speaker 1: dogs b.

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Speaker 3: It is five to two. A couple of texts, then

814
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Speaker 3: will wrap this one up.

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Speaker 2: Hey, team, great showers always. Thanks.

816
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:32,533
Speaker 3: Thanks.

817
00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:34,773
Speaker 2: It appears the number of people like me would like

818
00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:38,893
Speaker 2: to see all charities audited to establish what fees versus

819
00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:41,172
Speaker 2: actual good comes out of the three hundred and twenty

820
00:38:41,173 --> 00:38:45,013
Speaker 2: plus million that has been donated in people's wills as

821
00:38:45,533 --> 00:38:51,013
Speaker 2: showing with the USA D Can we really trust these NGOs? Yeah,

822
00:38:51,133 --> 00:38:54,213
Speaker 2: I mean I guess you can. You can investigate. You know,

823
00:38:54,253 --> 00:38:56,493
Speaker 2: it has to be printed where everything goes, So before

824
00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:57,853
Speaker 2: you put someone in your will, you might want to

825
00:38:57,893 --> 00:39:00,293
Speaker 2: do a big sniff around and see where it's actually

826
00:39:00,333 --> 00:39:02,333
Speaker 2: going and how much is on admin and how much

827
00:39:02,413 --> 00:39:03,573
Speaker 2: is on helping people.

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00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:04,973
Speaker 3: I think they do have to open their books, don't they?

829
00:39:05,053 --> 00:39:06,573
Speaker 3: Is it hard of being a charity? You have to

830
00:39:06,573 --> 00:39:08,893
Speaker 3: be transparent. This one sees guys leave it to your

831
00:39:08,933 --> 00:39:10,693
Speaker 3: kids and they will do the right thing. Why would

832
00:39:10,693 --> 00:39:12,413
Speaker 3: they not do the same as you and leave it

833
00:39:12,453 --> 00:39:14,533
Speaker 3: to all of their kids. If that's not the right thing,

834
00:39:14,613 --> 00:39:17,212
Speaker 3: then why don't you do the right thing now? Which

835
00:39:17,253 --> 00:39:18,093
Speaker 3: is kind of to your point?

836
00:39:18,173 --> 00:39:20,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So you want to be charitable through

837
00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:22,253
Speaker 2: your whole life, absolutely, and you want to bring up

838
00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:25,333
Speaker 2: kids that are charitable through their life. And I think

839
00:39:25,373 --> 00:39:28,213
Speaker 2: the primarily job of people is to leave money to

840
00:39:28,253 --> 00:39:31,172
Speaker 2: their kids, in their in their grandkids. If you want

841
00:39:31,213 --> 00:39:33,453
Speaker 2: to give more and you've got some, you oh for it.

842
00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:35,973
Speaker 2: Good on you, Yeah, good on you, Good on you,

843
00:39:36,213 --> 00:39:37,013
Speaker 2: Good on you.

844
00:39:36,853 --> 00:39:39,133
Speaker 3: Go to town. That has been a great discussion.

845
00:39:39,413 --> 00:39:41,653
Speaker 2: But attempt to bring up kids that will be charitable

846
00:39:41,653 --> 00:39:42,773
Speaker 2: with the money you leave them.

847
00:39:42,853 --> 00:39:46,013
Speaker 3: Yep, always sound advice, great discussion. Thank you very much

848
00:39:46,053 --> 00:39:47,853
Speaker 3: for all your phone calls and text right coming up

849
00:39:47,893 --> 00:39:51,292
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Are we as friendly as we think

850
00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:54,893
Speaker 3: we are? Not according to a survey that's just been released,

851
00:39:54,933 --> 00:39:56,613
Speaker 3: But we want to hear from you. If you've moved

852
00:39:56,653 --> 00:40:00,013
Speaker 3: to this beautiful country. How friendly are us Kiwi's Oh

853
00:40:00,093 --> 00:40:01,812
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

854
00:40:01,813 --> 00:40:04,053
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,373
Speaker 3: New Sport the weather on its way. You're listening to

856
00:40:06,413 --> 00:40:09,973
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler very very good after noon's you. We'll

857
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Speaker 3: see you on the other.

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Speaker 1: Side talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

859
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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety news dog z'b.

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show. Now,

861
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Speaker 3: just before we move on to our next topic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a bit of that previous topic talking

863
00:40:30,693 --> 00:40:34,373
Speaker 2: about in this you know this guy John McLeod who's

864
00:40:34,693 --> 00:40:38,053
Speaker 2: pushing for us to donate more in our worlds to charity. Yep,

865
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Speaker 2: read this bit of the report. New Zealand has a

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Speaker 2: relatively is a relative sorry, New Zealand is a relatively

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Speaker 2: wealthy country per capita about seventh in the world and

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Speaker 2: despite growing inequality, still fourth for median wealth. If you

869
00:40:50,973 --> 00:40:53,133
Speaker 2: could bear that to somewhere like the States, which has

870
00:40:53,173 --> 00:40:55,853
Speaker 2: got a lot of wealthy people, they move from number

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00:40:55,853 --> 00:40:58,533
Speaker 2: four on average down to fourteen on medium. So your

872
00:40:58,533 --> 00:41:01,413
Speaker 2: wealth is spread. While there's inequality, it has spread more

873
00:41:01,453 --> 00:41:04,413
Speaker 2: evenly than it is in many other countries there you go,

874
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:06,533
Speaker 2: So you don't really often hear that, do you. And

875
00:41:06,573 --> 00:41:10,933
Speaker 2: also that on average people have seven hundred and fifty

876
00:41:11,453 --> 00:41:14,093
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to leave in their wills. So you know,

877
00:41:14,213 --> 00:41:16,773
Speaker 2: we always hear how bad things are in New Zealand,

878
00:41:16,773 --> 00:41:19,333
Speaker 2: but you know it must be pretty bad in the

879
00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:22,013
Speaker 2: rest of the world. We're seventh in the world including

880
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:23,493
Speaker 2: a wealth per capita.

881
00:41:23,613 --> 00:41:25,933
Speaker 3: We're doing okay. Yes, there's some things to sort out,

882
00:41:25,973 --> 00:41:28,013
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But you know, geez, we're lucky

883
00:41:28,013 --> 00:41:29,053
Speaker 3: in this country sometimes.

884
00:41:29,173 --> 00:41:30,453
Speaker 2: But are we friendly? Tyler?

885
00:41:30,733 --> 00:41:33,973
Speaker 3: Wow, that is the big question. So that is the

886
00:41:34,053 --> 00:41:36,413
Speaker 3: question we've got for you over the next fifteen minutes

887
00:41:36,493 --> 00:41:39,453
Speaker 3: or so. Are we as friendly as we think we are?

888
00:41:39,533 --> 00:41:43,253
Speaker 3: On the back of a survey on who expats thought

889
00:41:43,293 --> 00:41:46,293
Speaker 3: we're the friendliest country. So these are expats that have

890
00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:49,613
Speaker 3: moved to a particular country and made it their new home.

891
00:41:49,813 --> 00:41:52,773
Speaker 3: They were surveyed by their home country into weather it

892
00:41:52,853 --> 00:41:53,773
Speaker 3: is friendly or not.

893
00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 2: Yes, so two out of five said that New Zealand does.

894
00:41:58,453 --> 00:42:00,373
Speaker 2: We're friendly. So a next pat is just someone that's

895
00:42:00,373 --> 00:42:02,373
Speaker 2: living in another country other than their own home. Yeah,

896
00:42:02,693 --> 00:42:06,573
Speaker 2: basically yep. So two out of five said New Zealand

897
00:42:07,013 --> 00:42:10,533
Speaker 2: we're friendly, as opposed to the most friendly place in

898
00:42:10,573 --> 00:42:14,013
Speaker 2: the world, Costa Rica ninety percent. So nine and ten

899
00:42:14,133 --> 00:42:19,172
Speaker 2: said the locals were friendly. I thought, surely we're better

900
00:42:19,173 --> 00:42:20,093
Speaker 2: than two out of five.

901
00:42:20,213 --> 00:42:22,413
Speaker 3: I was gutted to see that. So thirty nine percent

902
00:42:22,573 --> 00:42:24,813
Speaker 3: thought that we were friendly as a country, and we

903
00:42:24,853 --> 00:42:29,253
Speaker 3: pride ourselves grateful. We pride ourselves on being a friendly bunch.

904
00:42:29,293 --> 00:42:32,693
Speaker 3: But maybe what they perceive is friendliness. I think on

905
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:35,813
Speaker 3: the surface level we are pretty friendly, but maybe it

906
00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:38,613
Speaker 3: goes a bit deeper. Maybe they're talking about friendliness is

907
00:42:38,653 --> 00:42:42,212
Speaker 3: actually making friends connections, going a little bit further than

908
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:44,772
Speaker 3: just get a john. How are you doing today? I've

909
00:42:44,813 --> 00:42:45,533
Speaker 3: good girl.

910
00:42:45,373 --> 00:42:48,653
Speaker 2: Being invited around for dinner. Yeah, you know, being invited

911
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 2: out to a bar for beers, rather than someone just

912
00:42:50,853 --> 00:42:53,413
Speaker 2: going good a mate, but actually going a little bit deeper.

913
00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:55,053
Speaker 2: Now I've got this text from Greek here. He says,

914
00:42:55,053 --> 00:42:58,013
Speaker 2: didn't we do how friendly are we? Topic? Yesterday? Have

915
00:42:58,053 --> 00:43:00,213
Speaker 2: you run out of ideas? Greg? We're a victim of

916
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:02,253
Speaker 2: our own success. We tried to do this topic yesterday,

917
00:43:02,533 --> 00:43:06,333
Speaker 2: but I told a little story about this woman that

918
00:43:06,413 --> 00:43:08,293
Speaker 2: I drove across town and whether I should or not.

919
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:12,293
Speaker 2: That blew up in two thousands and thousands of texts

920
00:43:12,413 --> 00:43:16,253
Speaker 2: and a whole heap of phone calls on hitchhikingh So this,

921
00:43:16,253 --> 00:43:19,652
Speaker 2: this topic got washed away yesterday in the flood of

922
00:43:19,813 --> 00:43:20,813
Speaker 2: hitchhiking story.

923
00:43:20,693 --> 00:43:23,093
Speaker 3: And we had a bunch of texts and calls who

924
00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:24,573
Speaker 3: wanted to chat about this and cut it. So we

925
00:43:24,653 --> 00:43:27,652
Speaker 3: wanted to do it justice today. So keen to hear

926
00:43:27,653 --> 00:43:29,172
Speaker 3: from you. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

927
00:43:29,253 --> 00:43:29,652
Speaker 3: is the number.

928
00:43:29,693 --> 00:43:30,493
Speaker 2: Call O there, Greg?

929
00:43:30,573 --> 00:43:33,133
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Greg, We love you though, Greg. Thanks for

930
00:43:33,173 --> 00:43:34,373
Speaker 3: texting here, mate, great guy.

931
00:43:34,493 --> 00:43:34,692
Speaker 5: Yeah.

932
00:43:34,773 --> 00:43:38,172
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. And if

933
00:43:38,213 --> 00:43:40,652
Speaker 3: you've recently moved here or you've been here for some time,

934
00:43:40,773 --> 00:43:43,813
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Do We overplay our friendliness

935
00:43:43,813 --> 00:43:45,413
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. We love to say we're a friendly

936
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:48,533
Speaker 3: bunch and we love hearing people say we're friendly. But

937
00:43:48,613 --> 00:43:49,853
Speaker 3: is it really the case.

938
00:43:49,893 --> 00:43:52,853
Speaker 2: This Texter who's an ex pat living in New Zealand.

939
00:43:52,893 --> 00:43:57,773
Speaker 2: You Kiwis are famous for praising yourselves, so we are

940
00:43:57,533 --> 00:44:01,652
Speaker 2: we assume, we assume that we're friendly. Yeah, when we

941
00:44:01,653 --> 00:44:03,813
Speaker 2: go we're the friendliest people. We love to back ourselves,

942
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:05,853
Speaker 2: but this study says we're only two out of five

943
00:44:05,893 --> 00:44:09,733
Speaker 2: friendly instead of nine out of ten friendly. Cost Abby

944
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:18,093
Speaker 2: that the friendest countries go like, that's Costa Rica, Mexico, Philippines, Indonesia, Brazil, Thailand, Panama, Colombia, Kenya,

945
00:44:18,213 --> 00:44:18,853
Speaker 2: and Greece.

946
00:44:19,853 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 3: There's only one country I've been to out of those ones, Thailand.

947
00:44:22,813 --> 00:44:25,173
Speaker 3: They were pretty friendly in Thailand, very friendly.

948
00:44:25,253 --> 00:44:28,293
Speaker 2: They're so friendly in Thailand, yeah, incredibly famously friendly. And

949
00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:31,173
Speaker 2: Thiland absolutely, but do they do you know, do you

950
00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:35,172
Speaker 2: end up being friends with people as a deeper level.

951
00:44:35,213 --> 00:44:37,133
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'd love to hear from expats in New Zealand.

952
00:44:37,453 --> 00:44:39,733
Speaker 2: Have you been invited into other people's lives? Have you

953
00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:43,613
Speaker 2: found it easy to make friends here? Are we friendly?

954
00:44:43,773 --> 00:44:46,333
Speaker 2: When you're walking around the streets? Do we welcome you in?

955
00:44:46,653 --> 00:44:49,693
Speaker 2: Do shop keepers say get a yep? We'd love to

956
00:44:49,693 --> 00:44:50,053
Speaker 2: hear from you.

957
00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:52,453
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The phone lines have

958
00:44:52,533 --> 00:44:54,493
Speaker 3: let up. If you can't get through, keep trying. Nine

959
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:56,853
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text number if you prefer

960
00:44:56,893 --> 00:44:59,613
Speaker 3: to send a text, it is eleven parts two.

961
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:02,093
Speaker 2: There you go, Greg, look at that well, the phone

962
00:45:02,093 --> 00:45:03,973
Speaker 2: calls calling through other people that must have yesterday.

963
00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:06,013
Speaker 3: Still love you, Greek. You're all right, man, Yeah, he's good.

964
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:06,453
Speaker 2: Go gree Yea.

965
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:07,293
Speaker 3: You seem pretty friendly.

966
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:09,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's next. Tex isn't as nice thing?

967
00:45:12,213 --> 00:45:16,212
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons

968
00:45:16,253 --> 00:45:20,213
Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

969
00:45:20,333 --> 00:45:23,293
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty News Talk zed.

970
00:45:23,213 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 3: B, News Talk zed B. We've asked the question, are

971
00:45:26,973 --> 00:45:30,053
Speaker 3: kiwiez us as friendly as we think we are? This

972
00:45:30,133 --> 00:45:32,813
Speaker 3: is a call on the back of rather a survey

973
00:45:32,853 --> 00:45:35,813
Speaker 3: that says we are not that friendly. We're kind of

974
00:45:35,813 --> 00:45:37,973
Speaker 3: middle of the pack. We have gone up sixteen points

975
00:45:38,013 --> 00:45:41,933
Speaker 3: to twenty first out of fifty. But that's not great

976
00:45:41,933 --> 00:45:44,733
Speaker 3: being in the middle. The most friendly countries, according to

977
00:45:45,533 --> 00:45:49,333
Speaker 3: expats are Costa Rica, Mexico, Philippines, Indonesia and Brazil are

978
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,893
Speaker 3: in the top five, right down the bottom in terms

979
00:45:51,933 --> 00:45:54,893
Speaker 3: of unfriendly And you were quite happy to see this, Matt.

980
00:45:55,093 --> 00:45:55,333
Speaker 7: Yeah.

981
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:59,493
Speaker 2: Those those Northern European countries that normally win all these things,

982
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:03,093
Speaker 2: your Finland's and your den Marks, they're always at the

983
00:46:03,133 --> 00:46:05,893
Speaker 2: top of the happiness index. In your Sweden's they're right

984
00:46:05,893 --> 00:46:08,493
Speaker 2: at the bottom. Not very friendly. Hey you guys, you

985
00:46:08,573 --> 00:46:10,573
Speaker 2: Kiwi says the sticks here and look, Kis are taking

986
00:46:10,573 --> 00:46:13,413
Speaker 2: a little bit of hammering in the text machine nine nineteen. U,

987
00:46:13,453 --> 00:46:15,453
Speaker 2: Kiwis are not as you think. You like to say,

988
00:46:15,533 --> 00:46:18,613
Speaker 2: you're so humble. The irony is that you're completely up yourselves.

989
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:22,413
Speaker 2: Kiwi's this Kiwi that you're not that different from the country.

990
00:46:22,453 --> 00:46:25,573
Speaker 2: So no, after us, after asking where you from, mate,

991
00:46:25,853 --> 00:46:31,293
Speaker 2: you stop talking. I'm from Ireland. Enough up yourselves? Are we?

992
00:46:31,693 --> 00:46:35,453
Speaker 2: I was got thinking we're as I thought, as up yourselves.

993
00:46:36,373 --> 00:46:37,493
Speaker 2: I thought that was a sort of a.

994
00:46:38,893 --> 00:46:41,293
Speaker 3: It means like you're over proud. You're a little bit too.

995
00:46:41,293 --> 00:46:44,013
Speaker 3: But I thought yourself, I thought Ireland, like, you know,

996
00:46:44,093 --> 00:46:48,053
Speaker 3: you're kind of our kin you know, like Ireland is

997
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:50,172
Speaker 3: a little brother to the UK. We're the little bro

998
00:46:50,293 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 3: to Australia. Canada is a little bro to the year Whiz.

999
00:46:53,013 --> 00:46:54,853
Speaker 3: I thought were meant to be some sort of kinship here,

1000
00:46:54,893 --> 00:46:55,973
Speaker 3: but apparently not.

1001
00:46:56,293 --> 00:46:59,173
Speaker 2: Irish blood, New Zealand heart. That's what I'm made of. Yeah,

1002
00:46:59,213 --> 00:47:01,013
Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing in this world I'm afraid of.

1003
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:02,173
Speaker 3: Don't forget the old country.

1004
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:07,133
Speaker 2: Brendan, Hey, good, my friends.

1005
00:47:07,133 --> 00:47:09,693
Speaker 3: How are you doing, Brandon, good to chat mate?

1006
00:47:10,893 --> 00:47:14,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, hey, I work in rental cards and stuff, and

1007
00:47:14,773 --> 00:47:18,333
Speaker 15: so we deal see a number of international series and

1008
00:47:18,933 --> 00:47:20,893
Speaker 15: they all have the opinion that these down is a

1009
00:47:20,933 --> 00:47:25,253
Speaker 15: creat pretty bun truly. But I think that that's because

1010
00:47:25,373 --> 00:47:27,933
Speaker 15: there's friendliness on the surface, where.

1011
00:47:27,733 --> 00:47:32,493
Speaker 2: You say, hey, Brenda, Brendan, sorry to interrupt you, you've

1012
00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:35,693
Speaker 2: got we've got a really really rubbish line. Are you

1013
00:47:35,973 --> 00:47:42,213
Speaker 2: on your speaker phone bluetooth on your on your bluetooth. Yeah,

1014
00:47:42,333 --> 00:47:45,773
Speaker 2: we'll see if them come right, carry on, you got

1015
00:47:45,773 --> 00:47:47,252
Speaker 2: you go again. It was sounding a bit of their Brandon,

1016
00:47:47,293 --> 00:47:52,253
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you, but you continue.

1017
00:47:50,733 --> 00:47:54,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, carry on and if it if it goes haywire again,

1018
00:47:54,053 --> 00:47:56,093
Speaker 3: we'll let you know, Brenda. But so you drive around

1019
00:47:56,093 --> 00:47:57,973
Speaker 3: tourists as a job, and most of them say we're

1020
00:47:58,013 --> 00:47:58,613
Speaker 3: pretty friendly.

1021
00:48:00,173 --> 00:48:04,692
Speaker 15: Well we read cars to to okay, ye yeah, yeah,

1022
00:48:05,253 --> 00:48:09,333
Speaker 15: And I think that there's a difference between friendliness. I'm

1023
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:10,853
Speaker 15: the surface friendliness.

1024
00:48:11,573 --> 00:48:13,973
Speaker 3: Nah, there it is, Dinny old bluetooth.

1025
00:48:14,013 --> 00:48:15,733
Speaker 2: I was loving talking and Brandan as well. We'll try

1026
00:48:15,773 --> 00:48:16,333
Speaker 2: and get him back.

1027
00:48:16,453 --> 00:48:19,173
Speaker 3: Yeah. When it's good, it's good. When it's crap, it's crap.

1028
00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:22,413
Speaker 2: Bluetooth although I did watch I did watch a documentary

1029
00:48:22,413 --> 00:48:24,853
Speaker 2: on bluetooth. That is incredible technology. I can't believe that

1030
00:48:24,973 --> 00:48:28,333
Speaker 2: humans have reached the level of futuristicness. And I know

1031
00:48:28,333 --> 00:48:29,893
Speaker 2: bluetooth has been around for a while. If you look

1032
00:48:29,933 --> 00:48:32,213
Speaker 2: into it, it's it's an incredible technology.

1033
00:48:32,213 --> 00:48:34,333
Speaker 3: Who came up with it? Just sorry to sort of,

1034
00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:36,133
Speaker 3: you know, waylay the topic here, But who came up

1035
00:48:36,173 --> 00:48:38,653
Speaker 3: with bluetooth? Was it the Nordic countries?

1036
00:48:38,893 --> 00:48:42,133
Speaker 2: No? Who came up with I missed that part of it.

1037
00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:43,413
Speaker 2: I was just going to the tech part of it

1038
00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:47,013
Speaker 2: and the frequencies and the light spectrum it's on, not

1039
00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:48,693
Speaker 2: how actually invented. I missed that part, Tyler.

1040
00:48:48,733 --> 00:48:52,093
Speaker 3: Sorry, fascinating technology though, Chris, welcome to the show.

1041
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:55,013
Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, fellas.

1042
00:48:55,973 --> 00:48:58,453
Speaker 16: I wanted to echo the sentiments of most of the

1043
00:48:58,493 --> 00:48:59,813
Speaker 16: other callers that have run.

1044
00:48:59,973 --> 00:49:00,973
Speaker 11: I think your.

1045
00:49:00,853 --> 00:49:04,173
Speaker 16: Key with are really nice. We've helped out a stranger,

1046
00:49:04,213 --> 00:49:06,973
Speaker 16: We've got people's backs. You know, we see people in trouble.

1047
00:49:07,293 --> 00:49:09,213
Speaker 16: But when it comes to we have the idea of

1048
00:49:09,253 --> 00:49:11,493
Speaker 16: deeper friendships. I want to pursue.

1049
00:49:11,533 --> 00:49:11,813
Speaker 10: Agree.

1050
00:49:11,853 --> 00:49:15,173
Speaker 16: Now, from a Keywist point of view, I've noticed moving

1051
00:49:15,253 --> 00:49:18,813
Speaker 16: from the South Island up to the North Island. Yeah,

1052
00:49:18,853 --> 00:49:20,733
Speaker 16: you meet people kind of quickly all of that, but

1053
00:49:20,773 --> 00:49:23,933
Speaker 16: when it comes to even making new friends in New Zealand,

1054
00:49:23,973 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 16: there's a KeyWe it's hard to break into that click.

1055
00:49:26,613 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 11: You know, it might be a high.

1056
00:49:27,413 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 16: School click or a Uni clip if you've got to

1057
00:49:29,533 --> 00:49:32,453
Speaker 16: look at it from the outside, it kind of feels

1058
00:49:32,453 --> 00:49:34,693
Speaker 16: pretty service level. I've been in my town for about

1059
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:37,652
Speaker 16: keen years and still haven't got to the point where

1060
00:49:37,693 --> 00:49:41,613
Speaker 16: it actually feels like a genuine, genuine friendship or a

1061
00:49:41,613 --> 00:49:42,293
Speaker 16: ciprople thing.

1062
00:49:43,293 --> 00:49:45,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that high school thing and those that click

1063
00:49:45,693 --> 00:49:48,813
Speaker 2: thing is I imagine it's a global thing. I said

1064
00:49:48,893 --> 00:49:53,133
Speaker 2: yesterday that you know, some of my best friends, breast friends,

1065
00:49:53,173 --> 00:49:55,693
Speaker 2: best friends from high school, my four best mates, we

1066
00:49:55,773 --> 00:49:58,293
Speaker 2: all went to high school together. So it's actually and

1067
00:49:58,333 --> 00:50:00,973
Speaker 2: that's a long time ago, so it's hard to crack

1068
00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:03,893
Speaker 2: that code. You know, you know wherever you're from. So

1069
00:50:03,973 --> 00:50:06,093
Speaker 2: you're we're in the South Island. Did you move up

1070
00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:07,013
Speaker 2: from Chris.

1071
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:11,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, it from Nelson, right, Yeah. And did you flat

1072
00:50:11,533 --> 00:50:14,013
Speaker 3: when you moved to the new town or did you

1073
00:50:14,093 --> 00:50:15,933
Speaker 3: were you're living with a partner at that stage or

1074
00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:16,493
Speaker 3: by yourself?

1075
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:20,213
Speaker 16: You and I went up with my wife and you

1076
00:50:20,253 --> 00:50:23,853
Speaker 16: were sort of because you know, through through kindy in school.

1077
00:50:23,613 --> 00:50:26,173
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it was that.

1078
00:50:27,093 --> 00:50:29,333
Speaker 3: I just say that because I agree with you, Chris

1079
00:50:29,333 --> 00:50:31,733
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. It is we are a clique bunch,

1080
00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:34,573
Speaker 3: But that when I've moved to a new city, that

1081
00:50:34,693 --> 00:50:37,373
Speaker 3: ideally was how I made friends through the flatmate situation

1082
00:50:37,493 --> 00:50:39,693
Speaker 3: that you're in that living space, You've got shared experience

1083
00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:41,693
Speaker 3: as you're going out on the town together. It's a

1084
00:50:41,733 --> 00:50:44,413
Speaker 3: lot harder to do if you're moving with your family, right.

1085
00:50:45,773 --> 00:50:47,933
Speaker 16: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, it's a lot the university situation

1086
00:50:48,093 --> 00:50:51,772
Speaker 16: that you made the light. You go through some stickingsin that. Yeah,

1087
00:50:51,813 --> 00:50:54,013
Speaker 16: when you move somewhere with your family, it's just you

1088
00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:56,172
Speaker 16: feel like a bit of a weirdo trying to get

1089
00:50:56,213 --> 00:50:58,133
Speaker 16: it on the actual action, you know.

1090
00:50:58,373 --> 00:51:00,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think one of the good ways to

1091
00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 2: meet people, and I've met made friends recently over the

1092
00:51:04,653 --> 00:51:06,173
Speaker 2: years with my kids growing up and being on the

1093
00:51:06,213 --> 00:51:09,333
Speaker 2: sideline of sports teams. Yeah, because your kid might be

1094
00:51:09,333 --> 00:51:12,293
Speaker 2: in the same team with an age group for like

1095
00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 2: five six years, and then you get to meet people

1096
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,853
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't meet because they're from totally different walks

1097
00:51:18,853 --> 00:51:21,013
Speaker 2: of life that you wouldn't meet socially and they didn't

1098
00:51:21,013 --> 00:51:23,053
Speaker 2: go to high school with you, so they're new friends.

1099
00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 2: But that's a good way. Did you meet anyone on

1100
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:26,773
Speaker 2: the sidelines of sports?

1101
00:51:26,933 --> 00:51:30,133
Speaker 16: Chris, Look, I found the same thing. You know, maybe

1102
00:51:30,173 --> 00:51:33,533
Speaker 16: it's my problem, probably the shiky we who doesn't quite

1103
00:51:33,573 --> 00:51:36,693
Speaker 16: want to say, hey, mate, come over and have a barberie.

1104
00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:37,893
Speaker 11: Or let's go on to mission somewhere.

1105
00:51:37,933 --> 00:51:40,293
Speaker 16: It's it could be from myself.

1106
00:51:40,333 --> 00:51:42,013
Speaker 3: Actually, well it's pretty it is. I mean, it is

1107
00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 3: pretty hard. The older you get, the harder it is

1108
00:51:44,173 --> 00:51:46,733
Speaker 3: to not feel a bit awkward saying hey, do you

1109
00:51:46,773 --> 00:51:49,053
Speaker 3: want to go for a beer? Or you know, I

1110
00:51:49,053 --> 00:51:51,453
Speaker 3: can see you're going with your mates on whatever it is,

1111
00:51:51,493 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 3: a fishing trip or you're going for a hike or

1112
00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:56,293
Speaker 3: a run. Can I come just that element that you

1113
00:51:56,373 --> 00:51:59,093
Speaker 3: feel within yourself that it just feels like a little

1114
00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:00,813
Speaker 3: bit too full on, you know what I mean, That

1115
00:52:00,813 --> 00:52:02,933
Speaker 3: you're coming on a bit strong and you're going to

1116
00:52:02,933 --> 00:52:04,533
Speaker 3: be the weirdo. And I think that would be a

1117
00:52:04,573 --> 00:52:06,173
Speaker 3: feeling that a lot of people would have in New Zealand.

1118
00:52:06,173 --> 00:52:07,133
Speaker 3: We're trying to make new friends.

1119
00:52:08,413 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 16: Don't agree with you there.

1120
00:52:11,213 --> 00:52:13,652
Speaker 2: It's interesting that thing taking it to the next level.

1121
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:15,573
Speaker 2: Because one I thank you for your call, Chris. One

1122
00:52:15,613 --> 00:52:18,573
Speaker 2: of my great mates. Now one of my best mates

1123
00:52:18,653 --> 00:52:21,093
Speaker 2: is this guy called Mike for listening might get a

1124
00:52:21,413 --> 00:52:23,533
Speaker 2: And the reason why we're mates is because we ended

1125
00:52:23,613 --> 00:52:26,333
Speaker 2: up just coaching at one of our kids cricket teams

1126
00:52:26,333 --> 00:52:29,373
Speaker 2: co coaches and so spend a bit of time together.

1127
00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,652
Speaker 2: And then one day there was you know, after a

1128
00:52:32,773 --> 00:52:37,133
Speaker 2: year or so, there was a game cricket on Yep,

1129
00:52:37,373 --> 00:52:38,933
Speaker 2: I go, oh, I'm going to go and watch the pub.

1130
00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:39,613
Speaker 2: Do you want to come along?

1131
00:52:39,733 --> 00:52:39,893
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1132
00:52:40,213 --> 00:52:43,413
Speaker 2: And so it's like infding someone out on a date.

1133
00:52:44,013 --> 00:52:47,053
Speaker 2: So do you want to take this co coaching friend

1134
00:52:47,053 --> 00:52:49,533
Speaker 2: thing to another level? It's gone and have a beer

1135
00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:53,733
Speaker 2: and watch the cricket together. Did that? Absolutely steamed And

1136
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:54,933
Speaker 2: we've been very good mate citizens.

1137
00:52:54,973 --> 00:52:55,133
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1138
00:52:55,173 --> 00:52:56,733
Speaker 3: Sports a messive part of it, though, isn't it. I

1139
00:52:56,773 --> 00:52:58,692
Speaker 3: mean even down in christ Church when I moved into

1140
00:52:58,693 --> 00:53:00,213
Speaker 3: a new flat and it was with a couple of

1141
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,693
Speaker 3: Brits who had moved here and they joined a football

1142
00:53:02,693 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 3: team and made a good group of friends on that

1143
00:53:05,213 --> 00:53:07,133
Speaker 3: football team. And I wasn't even part of the team,

1144
00:53:07,173 --> 00:53:09,293
Speaker 3: but just because I was in the flat, i'd come

1145
00:53:09,333 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 3: along and spectate the football games and be a part

1146
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:13,493
Speaker 3: of the crew that way. So the sport is a

1147
00:53:13,493 --> 00:53:15,652
Speaker 3: massive way to get in. It is a very I mean,

1148
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:17,013
Speaker 3: is that a key we think? I think that would

1149
00:53:17,013 --> 00:53:18,133
Speaker 3: be pretty common around the world.

1150
00:53:18,573 --> 00:53:20,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you have to be interested

1151
00:53:20,733 --> 00:53:22,253
Speaker 2: in the same sport as that. If you come into

1152
00:53:22,293 --> 00:53:24,573
Speaker 2: a country and they don't play the sport that you're

1153
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:27,973
Speaker 2: into and you want your kids can get it could

1154
00:53:28,013 --> 00:53:28,973
Speaker 2: get pretty complicated.

1155
00:53:29,053 --> 00:53:29,252
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1156
00:53:29,293 --> 00:53:31,533
Speaker 2: The worst unfriendly I found were the English, even at

1157
00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:34,373
Speaker 2: bus stops. I talked to anyone and find out not

1158
00:53:34,453 --> 00:53:37,172
Speaker 2: to talk back. Yeah, I mean, I tell you what,

1159
00:53:37,213 --> 00:53:39,053
Speaker 2: one thing when you first moved to England is what

1160
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:43,733
Speaker 2: you find quite shocking is shopkeepers. You know, you go

1161
00:53:43,773 --> 00:53:46,693
Speaker 2: into a shop and that you know, you're used to

1162
00:53:46,733 --> 00:53:50,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand people go hey, how's it going, And you

1163
00:53:50,413 --> 00:53:52,333
Speaker 2: go into your first shop in England and they.

1164
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:52,853
Speaker 3: May say nothing.

1165
00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,733
Speaker 2: Very rude friendly at pubs, yeah, rude in retail.

1166
00:53:56,613 --> 00:53:57,053
Speaker 14: Is that right?

1167
00:53:57,053 --> 00:53:58,493
Speaker 3: So what would they so have you walked into the

1168
00:53:58,533 --> 00:54:01,652
Speaker 3: dairy in the UK and say good morning, so shut

1169
00:54:01,733 --> 00:54:03,693
Speaker 3: up or they wouldn't even respond.

1170
00:54:03,893 --> 00:54:05,652
Speaker 2: I'm not so much talking the dairy, not that they

1171
00:54:05,693 --> 00:54:07,293
Speaker 2: have they call them the shops there you know you've

1172
00:54:07,293 --> 00:54:10,893
Speaker 2: spent time there, but no, I just like a retail store. Yeah,

1173
00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:13,813
Speaker 2: there's just someone behind the counter that's very snooty in

1174
00:54:13,853 --> 00:54:15,853
Speaker 2: my experience, you know, all right.

1175
00:54:15,813 --> 00:54:18,172
Speaker 3: Oh, hard to be wrong. Yeah, oh eight hundred eighty

1176
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:20,893
Speaker 3: ten eighty Are we more friendly? Are we?

1177
00:54:21,013 --> 00:54:21,053
Speaker 4: Le?

1178
00:54:21,453 --> 00:54:23,853
Speaker 3: Sorry? Less friendly than we think we are? According to

1179
00:54:23,893 --> 00:54:26,093
Speaker 3: a survey, we certainly are. But if you've recently moved

1180
00:54:26,133 --> 00:54:28,653
Speaker 3: to New Zealand, what has been your experiences of trying

1181
00:54:28,693 --> 00:54:31,693
Speaker 3: to make friends, getting a little bit deeper than just

1182
00:54:31,733 --> 00:54:34,133
Speaker 3: the friendly wave in the morning and actually being invited

1183
00:54:34,173 --> 00:54:35,293
Speaker 3: over for dinner for example?

1184
00:54:35,413 --> 00:54:38,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. One hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

1185
00:54:38,093 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 2: two nine two.

1186
00:54:43,333 --> 00:54:47,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1187
00:54:47,093 --> 00:54:48,893
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1188
00:54:49,133 --> 00:54:52,493
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty five past too, if you've recently moved

1189
00:54:52,493 --> 00:54:55,573
Speaker 3: to New Zealand, loved to hear from you on how

1190
00:54:55,653 --> 00:54:57,493
Speaker 3: friendly we are. As kiwis.

1191
00:54:58,053 --> 00:55:00,533
Speaker 2: We've been talking about expats because that's how they referred

1192
00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:02,253
Speaker 2: to in the study, and it found that expats to

1193
00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:04,053
Speaker 2: Costa Rica found there the most friendly in the world

1194
00:55:04,133 --> 00:55:06,053
Speaker 2: nine out of ten. New Zealand only two out of

1195
00:55:06,213 --> 00:55:09,893
Speaker 2: five expats thought that New Zealand as we're friendly, so

1196
00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:13,653
Speaker 2: I just thought i'd get our normal clatchure down. Expat

1197
00:55:13,893 --> 00:55:17,013
Speaker 2: is short for expatriate, which refers to a person who

1198
00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:22,053
Speaker 2: lives outside their native country, often for you know, abroad

1199
00:55:22,133 --> 00:55:25,973
Speaker 2: for an extended period. Are often permanent right yep. So

1200
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:28,973
Speaker 2: immigrant is the same thing. An immigrant is someone who

1201
00:55:29,013 --> 00:55:30,653
Speaker 2: moves to a new country to live permanently.

1202
00:55:30,693 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 3: Well, there we go. So just another way to say, as.

1203
00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:35,893
Speaker 2: Opposed to a tourist, you've moved to a country and

1204
00:55:36,173 --> 00:55:38,212
Speaker 2: you're trying to make a life. Here is what we're

1205
00:55:38,253 --> 00:55:42,733
Speaker 2: saying when we when we say expat, but immigrant is equal,

1206
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 2: the same means the same thing, exactly the same thing.

1207
00:55:44,973 --> 00:55:47,693
Speaker 3: Okay, if you're an expant or immigrant in New Zealands,

1208
00:55:47,773 --> 00:55:49,133
Speaker 3: well he would love to hear from you on one

1209
00:55:49,213 --> 00:55:52,173
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty gym your thoughts.

1210
00:55:52,453 --> 00:55:56,813
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, just come across the story. As I think

1211
00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:59,093
Speaker 14: we were, we still are. But I'm a bit shocked

1212
00:55:59,133 --> 00:56:01,373
Speaker 14: to hear that survey there are two people out of

1213
00:56:01,373 --> 00:56:03,733
Speaker 14: every five. I think that that was quite quite shocked,

1214
00:56:03,733 --> 00:56:08,733
Speaker 14: because you know, growing up in New Zealand with immigrant parents,

1215
00:56:09,013 --> 00:56:13,253
Speaker 14: I've found quite the opposite because story come a light recently.

1216
00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:16,133
Speaker 14: My parents in law, my lovely mother in law, they

1217
00:56:16,253 --> 00:56:19,693
Speaker 14: were fifty six refugees from Hungary. They were in a

1218
00:56:19,853 --> 00:56:22,173
Speaker 14: comin with heir of nothing but the shoes on their feet.

1219
00:56:23,013 --> 00:56:26,212
Speaker 14: They were in a refugee camp and mungry. And there's

1220
00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:29,213
Speaker 14: a special interest story because they decided to get married.

1221
00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:31,733
Speaker 14: This would have been the summer of fifty seven, and

1222
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:35,493
Speaker 14: basically they were just unundated with gifts and wedding dress

1223
00:56:35,573 --> 00:56:38,053
Speaker 14: and everything like that, which I thought was pretty awesome.

1224
00:56:38,933 --> 00:56:40,693
Speaker 14: Poor oh there's has had two strokes.

1225
00:56:40,733 --> 00:56:41,533
Speaker 11: He's ninety five.

1226
00:56:41,653 --> 00:56:43,373
Speaker 14: She's gone to a care home. But you show her

1227
00:56:43,413 --> 00:56:45,253
Speaker 14: the picture of that and she'll tell you all about

1228
00:56:45,253 --> 00:56:47,573
Speaker 14: the story. But she's got that five minute dementia thing,

1229
00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:50,893
Speaker 14: which I think is pretty awten. I will remember when

1230
00:56:50,893 --> 00:56:53,733
Speaker 14: I was a kid with our neighbors in the sixties,

1231
00:56:53,853 --> 00:56:57,212
Speaker 14: Like my father was away with business equipment and he'd

1232
00:56:57,293 --> 00:57:00,373
Speaker 14: go and train in East Germany. My mother was having me.

1233
00:57:00,493 --> 00:57:03,173
Speaker 14: Our neighbors took my mum to hospital when she was

1234
00:57:03,173 --> 00:57:05,413
Speaker 14: having me because we didn't have we didn't have a

1235
00:57:05,453 --> 00:57:07,773
Speaker 14: car back and then so you know, like here, I

1236
00:57:07,773 --> 00:57:10,373
Speaker 14: think at the as we are and who's who's who.

1237
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:13,053
Speaker 14: You're lucky enough to have a neighbor. But generally, I

1238
00:57:13,053 --> 00:57:15,732
Speaker 14: think people, you know, I like to return the help.

1239
00:57:15,853 --> 00:57:18,373
Speaker 14: I think generally people and I've sort of needed help

1240
00:57:18,413 --> 00:57:20,893
Speaker 14: a few times, and yeah, I think generally people are

1241
00:57:20,933 --> 00:57:24,293
Speaker 14: pretty friendly, especially when you sort of go go, you know,

1242
00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:28,533
Speaker 14: to another town. I was at South South Island one time,

1243
00:57:28,533 --> 00:57:30,853
Speaker 14: where you're from us Auckland. I welcome to New Zealand,

1244
00:57:30,893 --> 00:57:35,813
Speaker 14: they said, so I love you.

1245
00:57:35,893 --> 00:57:38,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you so much. Jim. Have you been

1246
00:57:39,013 --> 00:57:42,253
Speaker 2: you know, you're so your Hungarian heritage. Have you been

1247
00:57:42,293 --> 00:57:43,213
Speaker 2: back to Hungary?

1248
00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,053
Speaker 14: I know that's my that's my wife. Yeah, that was

1249
00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:49,613
Speaker 14: your wife, my mum, but she's my mom mate.

1250
00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:53,613
Speaker 3: See, so we used to be a lot friendlier, Jim.

1251
00:57:53,693 --> 00:57:56,253
Speaker 3: Do you agree with the that we we can be

1252
00:57:56,333 --> 00:57:58,533
Speaker 3: friendly on the surface level, but then when you try

1253
00:57:58,573 --> 00:58:01,693
Speaker 3: and make new friends or form those connections, then it

1254
00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:02,373
Speaker 3: gets about hearted.

1255
00:58:03,253 --> 00:58:06,933
Speaker 14: Totally, totally, totally agree with that. Having a lot of

1256
00:58:06,973 --> 00:58:09,173
Speaker 14: close friends passed that. I want to grew up with them.

1257
00:58:09,213 --> 00:58:12,293
Speaker 14: We went to school. I'm only just in my early sixties. Yeah,

1258
00:58:12,333 --> 00:58:14,293
Speaker 14: hard to make new friends, you know, with clicks and

1259
00:58:14,333 --> 00:58:15,173
Speaker 14: groups and stuff.

1260
00:58:15,293 --> 00:58:18,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chim you're a good man. Thanks for

1261
00:58:18,493 --> 00:58:19,253
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz.

1262
00:58:19,893 --> 00:58:21,413
Speaker 14: Thank you very much for lunch time.

1263
00:58:21,573 --> 00:58:25,093
Speaker 3: Yep, all right mate, you go well, thank you mate.

1264
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:30,453
Speaker 3: So fear point he makes that. You know that idea

1265
00:58:30,533 --> 00:58:34,413
Speaker 3: of New Zealand being a very friendly place probably originated

1266
00:58:35,053 --> 00:58:38,693
Speaker 3: a few decades ago, right that we're a fairly young country.

1267
00:58:39,013 --> 00:58:41,893
Speaker 3: We were a country with a lot of immigrant slash

1268
00:58:41,973 --> 00:58:45,493
Speaker 3: experts here and so we kind of had to be friendly.

1269
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:48,053
Speaker 3: Everybody was effectively in the same boat. But whether that's

1270
00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:50,933
Speaker 3: changed as we get into a more modern society.

1271
00:58:51,093 --> 00:58:52,413
Speaker 2: Are you still friendly?

1272
00:58:52,453 --> 00:58:52,773
Speaker 10: Tyler?

1273
00:58:53,453 --> 00:58:58,213
Speaker 2: Sometimes this business is Matt Somerset, UK walking to pub

1274
00:58:58,253 --> 00:59:01,213
Speaker 2: barman says, we'll be on my lover where you bid.

1275
00:59:01,973 --> 00:59:04,533
Speaker 2: I loved it, stayed nearly two years, felt right at home.

1276
00:59:04,573 --> 00:59:05,413
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

1277
00:59:05,653 --> 00:59:09,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm just talking about so Ho in London

1278
00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:09,733
Speaker 2: where I was.

1279
00:59:10,333 --> 00:59:11,853
Speaker 3: That sounds like an unfriendly place.

1280
00:59:11,893 --> 00:59:13,333
Speaker 2: Where I was working, it was probably some kind of

1281
00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:17,893
Speaker 2: hipster place. I've unfairly tarneghed the people of the entirety

1282
00:59:18,413 --> 00:59:21,733
Speaker 2: of the UK on the back of about three shopkeepers

1283
00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:23,733
Speaker 2: being rude to me over for a few years.

1284
00:59:24,053 --> 00:59:26,173
Speaker 3: Sure it just wasn't you. They looked at you walking

1285
00:59:26,213 --> 00:59:28,173
Speaker 3: through the door and think, oh man, he's Matt Heath again.

1286
00:59:28,293 --> 00:59:30,013
Speaker 2: Well, you know everyone knows over there when you go

1287
00:59:30,093 --> 00:59:33,213
Speaker 2: up to ask someone for a pin to write something,

1288
00:59:33,213 --> 00:59:36,213
Speaker 2: they're like a pin, a pin and then they try

1289
00:59:36,213 --> 00:59:38,453
Speaker 2: and hand you like a pin that you might sow with.

1290
00:59:38,653 --> 00:59:40,333
Speaker 3: Well they all carry pins around today.

1291
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:43,973
Speaker 2: No, no, but they think that's what you're asking for,

1292
00:59:43,973 --> 00:59:46,453
Speaker 2: a pin. Pin anyway, it's not their fault.

1293
00:59:46,413 --> 00:59:49,093
Speaker 3: Not their fault. Oh eight hundred a eighty is the

1294
00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:51,813
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1295
00:59:52,173 --> 00:59:55,253
Speaker 3: It is bang on two thirty headlines coming up.

1296
00:59:55,293 --> 00:59:56,893
Speaker 2: Actually, just before we go, there was there was something

1297
00:59:56,893 --> 00:59:59,013
Speaker 2: that used to always be at avertel in New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: over in London. This text says bring this up worked

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Speaker 2: in London five am bus. Very everybody said good morning

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Speaker 2: as people got on tom. But you used to hear

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Speaker 2: thank you driver from this is back when I was

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01:00:10,813 --> 01:00:12,973
Speaker 2: in you in the early two thousands. Over there, you'd

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01:00:12,973 --> 01:00:15,053
Speaker 2: often hear a key we getting off the bus because

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01:00:15,093 --> 01:00:18,373
Speaker 2: you know, you know, we thank bus drivers and you'd

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01:00:18,373 --> 01:00:22,013
Speaker 2: hear thank you driver. You go, that's New Zealand. Yeah,

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01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,653
Speaker 2: this new Zilla that just got off the bus.

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Speaker 3: That's a lovely thing. About new ze Thank you driver,

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Speaker 3: Thank you driver. Right headlines with Raylene coming up.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said.

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Speaker 4: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

1311
01:00:36,453 --> 01:00:40,333
Speaker 4: a blue bubble. Western Bay of Plenty councilors quitting local

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Speaker 4: government New Zealand, following the lead of christ Church City, Auckland,

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Speaker 4: West Coast Regional, Gray Kayper and Westland District. New Zealand's

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Speaker 4: current account deficit is narrowing, pushed by tourism, dairy and

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01:00:54,093 --> 01:00:58,173
Speaker 4: meat exports. Stat Sanz says we imported twenty six point

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01:00:58,173 --> 01:01:02,893
Speaker 4: four billion more than we exported annually to December. Amain's

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01:01:02,933 --> 01:01:06,493
Speaker 4: died in hospital today as police investigate a homicide on

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01:01:06,573 --> 01:01:09,933
Speaker 4: Saturday in Hamilton's Melville. A forty one year old man

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01:01:10,013 --> 01:01:15,253
Speaker 4: is in custody. Pokey Machine venues claim regulations requiring them

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01:01:15,253 --> 01:01:19,133
Speaker 4: to monitor patrons who make a second cash withdrawal in

1321
01:01:19,173 --> 01:01:24,133
Speaker 4: a day are unworkable. South African scientists at a remote

1322
01:01:24,173 --> 01:01:28,653
Speaker 4: Antarctica base have asked for rescue alleging an assault. Authority

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01:01:28,733 --> 01:01:32,693
Speaker 4: say the accused person has written a formal apology. Six

1324
01:01:32,813 --> 01:01:37,293
Speaker 4: years after the Enzed International Conference Center fire, the court

1325
01:01:37,413 --> 01:01:41,053
Speaker 4: case looms. You can find out more at enzid Herald Premium.

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Speaker 4: Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we have asked the

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01:01:45,093 --> 01:01:47,733
Speaker 3: question are we as friendly as we think we are

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01:01:47,973 --> 01:01:49,773
Speaker 3: on the back of a survey that says we're quite

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Speaker 3: a middle of the pack when compared with other countries,

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Speaker 3: right at the top in terms of the friendliest Costa Rica,

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01:01:55,733 --> 01:01:57,893
Speaker 3: Mexico and the Philippines and the top three.

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Speaker 2: This on my saying that some retail staff in London

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01:02:02,933 --> 01:02:06,333
Speaker 2: are very friendly, and I was probably talking about people,

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01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:08,093
Speaker 2: and so I hope anyway, if you walk into a

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01:02:08,133 --> 01:02:10,253
Speaker 2: show up and parnalysis this text you could get a

1337
01:02:10,293 --> 01:02:13,653
Speaker 2: frosty reception, walk into a pub and hawker Ticka, they

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01:02:13,653 --> 01:02:15,533
Speaker 2: will talk to you like they've known you for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: That's so yes, so very very true. Yeah, great people

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Speaker 2: the coasters absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to cool.

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you on this Nine two ninety

1344
01:02:25,933 --> 01:02:27,093
Speaker 3: two is the text number.

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01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:29,573
Speaker 2: Are you an expat or an immigrant to New Zealand

1346
01:02:29,733 --> 01:02:32,173
Speaker 2: and have you found us friendly? According to the study,

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01:02:32,173 --> 01:02:35,253
Speaker 2: We're not that friendly. I'm an Indian immigrant moved here

1348
01:02:35,293 --> 01:02:37,173
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine as a nineteen year old.

1349
01:02:37,213 --> 01:02:40,373
Speaker 2: I have been in many countries and accuding of the US, Canada, Germany, France,

1350
01:02:40,453 --> 01:02:43,333
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern countries, Asian countries and Pacific countries, but I

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01:02:43,373 --> 01:02:45,893
Speaker 2: feel Kiwi's are the friendliest and nice of all. Go

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01:02:46,093 --> 01:02:50,093
Speaker 2: Kiwi night. Of course there are some knobs, but overall

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01:02:50,133 --> 01:02:51,933
Speaker 2: he's in it as a best Yeah. I mean, wherever

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01:02:51,973 --> 01:02:53,133
Speaker 2: you go, there's going to be some knobs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:02:53,493 --> 01:02:54,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's going to be a holes in

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01:02:54,893 --> 01:02:56,933
Speaker 3: your life, whether the key with your otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, you're back and it sounds like you've got a

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01:03:00,613 --> 01:03:01,893
Speaker 2: beautiful line now.

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Speaker 11: Mate.

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Speaker 15: You know, twenty first century you can still find lots

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01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 15: for yourself in the middle, like you dragging down the stay.

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Speaker 3: Oh exactly, it's still a little bit scratchy, Brenda, but

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01:03:11,573 --> 01:03:14,253
Speaker 3: we'll get our fingers crossed. So when you left us,

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01:03:14,413 --> 01:03:17,933
Speaker 3: you're part of a rental car company which obviously rents

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01:03:17,973 --> 01:03:20,413
Speaker 3: cars out to a lot of tourists, and they say

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Speaker 3: that we're a somewhat friendly bunch.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we're generally say we're very friendly bunch.

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Speaker 11: But then you know, that's.

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Speaker 15: When you're doing customer service and being friendly in customer service,

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Speaker 15: the golden rule, being unfriendly in customer services is a

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Speaker 15: very negative experience, right yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I mean I'm old enough.

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Speaker 15: And I remember when we lived at Aldie for a

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01:03:43,253 --> 01:03:46,373
Speaker 15: while and before down and Hamilton and Co. And do

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Speaker 15: the extent neighbors that come o with them a parties

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Speaker 15: and stuff. You just don't see that these days because

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01:03:52,253 --> 01:03:57,533
Speaker 15: everybody's too busy. There's different cultures. I think that's that's

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01:03:57,613 --> 01:03:58,253
Speaker 15: changed a lot.

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Speaker 10: So I think that.

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01:04:00,773 --> 01:04:02,413
Speaker 15: Things can change with time.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I do try.

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01:04:04,693 --> 01:04:06,493
Speaker 15: And get to know my neighbors as as much as

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01:04:06,493 --> 01:04:08,213
Speaker 15: I can, because lot that I can help them out.

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01:04:08,613 --> 01:04:09,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, from time, life.

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Speaker 15: Along and very hard to deal look, because they do

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01:04:13,853 --> 01:04:16,693
Speaker 15: come from very to be consciously, and I think that

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01:04:16,813 --> 01:04:21,373
Speaker 15: has been a very big change. But you know, I

1389
01:04:21,413 --> 01:04:23,293
Speaker 15: was a bit of try to hear the sweet were

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Speaker 15: considering untrending because I was about ten years ago. But

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01:04:26,013 --> 01:04:28,133
Speaker 15: they was a friendly a bunch and then I realized

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01:04:28,133 --> 01:04:30,493
Speaker 15: maybe it must come yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's very different from being a tourist.

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Speaker 2: And as you say, Ben, the next next level is

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01:04:37,293 --> 01:04:39,493
Speaker 2: the hard thing. Very easy to be friendly to a tourist,

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Speaker 2: inviting them around for dinner as a total you know,

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Speaker 2: someone that's moved to your neighborhood and in' viting around

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Speaker 2: for dinner dinner. That's a whole other level of friendly.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I just wish more people would approach everybody else around

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01:04:52,133 --> 01:04:56,333
Speaker 15: with a more trending attitude, because being friendly doesn't trust

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01:04:56,373 --> 01:04:59,373
Speaker 15: you anything. Being hostile as the cost of your own

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01:04:59,413 --> 01:05:00,693
Speaker 15: personal silent stuff.

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01:05:00,933 --> 01:05:02,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good point.

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01:05:02,573 --> 01:05:04,213
Speaker 3: And that is a good point about the you know,

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01:05:04,253 --> 01:05:07,613
Speaker 3: the old neighborhood community. Yeah, and I hope I'm not

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01:05:07,653 --> 01:05:09,813
Speaker 3: looking back with into glasses here. Maybe I am a

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01:05:09,853 --> 01:05:12,173
Speaker 3: little bit, but it's certainly changed. When I was a kid,

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01:05:12,173 --> 01:05:15,093
Speaker 3: you didn't know the neighbors, and we all kind of,

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01:05:15,213 --> 01:05:17,173
Speaker 3: you know, they had kids the same age as us,

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01:05:17,413 --> 01:05:19,493
Speaker 3: and we went to the same school, and everybody kind

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01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:21,133
Speaker 3: of knew each other, and you knew that was the

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01:05:21,173 --> 01:05:23,773
Speaker 3: Wilson household and that was the Adam's household.

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01:05:24,013 --> 01:05:26,213
Speaker 2: But nowadays, I don't know if that's still true. I

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01:05:26,293 --> 01:05:29,213
Speaker 2: just realized you're from the Adams family. We ever picked

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01:05:29,253 --> 01:05:29,533
Speaker 2: on for.

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01:05:29,493 --> 01:05:35,013
Speaker 3: That took you that long to realize? Great show.

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01:05:36,093 --> 01:05:37,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

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01:05:38,653 --> 01:05:38,853
Speaker 7: Hard.

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01:05:39,013 --> 01:05:40,813
Speaker 2: It's a funny thing, you know. It's Ben and says,

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01:05:40,813 --> 01:05:42,933
Speaker 2: we don't have that much time anymore. We have less

1422
01:05:42,933 --> 01:05:44,613
Speaker 2: time than we used to do. We've got all this

1423
01:05:44,653 --> 01:05:47,253
Speaker 2: technology and we have less time. Our country has low

1424
01:05:47,253 --> 01:05:51,053
Speaker 2: productivity weights, but we're working really long hours. Yeah, So

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01:05:51,373 --> 01:05:53,973
Speaker 2: it used to seem or it seems like any to

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01:05:53,973 --> 01:05:57,693
Speaker 2: talk about rose colored spectacles into the past. But it

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01:05:57,733 --> 01:05:59,773
Speaker 2: did seem like people got home at five and there

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01:05:59,813 --> 01:06:02,293
Speaker 2: was barbecues and the neighbors were coming over, and people

1429
01:06:02,293 --> 01:06:03,973
Speaker 2: were playing cricket and the cold a sack and all that.

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01:06:04,093 --> 01:06:05,933
Speaker 3: Kids are out on the bike riding around.

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01:06:06,093 --> 01:06:06,533
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:06:06,573 --> 01:06:09,493
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that does seem to have sort

1433
01:06:09,493 --> 01:06:11,613
Speaker 2: of disappeared a little bit. As I was talking before,

1434
01:06:11,693 --> 01:06:14,253
Speaker 2: when me and my neighbor came across that person that

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01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:17,933
Speaker 2: had unconscious, unconscious on the road and ran Saint John's.

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01:06:18,573 --> 01:06:21,093
Speaker 2: Everyone from the neighborhood came out and was standing around him.

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01:06:21,093 --> 01:06:23,013
Speaker 2: You know, lucky he was unconscious. It would be very awkward,

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01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:25,013
Speaker 2: you know. When I got him a pillow, someone else

1439
01:06:25,053 --> 01:06:27,253
Speaker 2: got him a blanket. We're all standing around talking and

1440
01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:29,493
Speaker 2: we got to know each other around this, and then

1441
01:06:29,533 --> 01:06:31,733
Speaker 2: we were going, let's have a barbecue, Let's have a

1442
01:06:31,813 --> 01:06:34,773
Speaker 2: street barbecue. Let's let's you know, we're all talking big

1443
01:06:34,813 --> 01:06:36,773
Speaker 2: about it, and we'll do that next week.

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01:06:36,653 --> 01:06:38,133
Speaker 3: It's going to have it. Are your penciled then?

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01:06:38,293 --> 01:06:38,613
Speaker 7: I know?

1446
01:06:39,293 --> 01:06:39,733
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1447
01:06:39,893 --> 01:06:41,453
Speaker 3: But even when you seed you knocked on the door

1448
01:06:41,493 --> 01:06:43,533
Speaker 3: of your neighbor to try and find a gold coin incident.

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01:06:43,613 --> 01:06:44,493
Speaker 2: I think that's nice.

1450
01:06:44,573 --> 01:06:47,093
Speaker 3: That's the New zeal And that I used to laugh

1451
01:06:47,133 --> 01:06:47,533
Speaker 3: so much.

1452
01:06:47,693 --> 01:06:50,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I should. I should, that lovely thing. We

1453
01:06:51,013 --> 01:06:52,933
Speaker 2: were all standing around the sunconscious guy who was bleeding

1454
01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,453
Speaker 2: from his head waiting for Saint John's and we bonded.

1455
01:06:56,213 --> 01:06:58,213
Speaker 2: You know, we should because there's people from all different

1456
01:06:58,213 --> 01:07:00,733
Speaker 2: countries that live in the area. We have a barbecue

1457
01:07:00,773 --> 01:07:01,213
Speaker 2: get together.

1458
01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:02,413
Speaker 3: Who's got the best barbecue?

1459
01:07:02,453 --> 01:07:05,613
Speaker 2: You got a whipper, I've got a zilgear and yeah,

1460
01:07:05,693 --> 01:07:05,973
Speaker 2: what's it?

1461
01:07:06,053 --> 01:07:07,773
Speaker 3: You know you don't want to have it at your place, though,

1462
01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:09,373
Speaker 3: do you, because it's a lot of Edmond. If it's

1463
01:07:09,493 --> 01:07:11,573
Speaker 3: on somebody else's place, have it on the street, mate,

1464
01:07:11,933 --> 01:07:13,893
Speaker 3: there you go. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

1465
01:07:13,973 --> 01:07:17,173
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you have moved

1466
01:07:17,173 --> 01:07:19,013
Speaker 3: to New Zealand. You're an immigrant here. I love to

1467
01:07:19,053 --> 01:07:22,933
Speaker 3: hear from you. How friendly are we as Kiwi's in

1468
01:07:23,053 --> 01:07:24,933
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two is the text number. We'll get

1469
01:07:24,973 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 3: to some of those ticks very shortly.

1470
01:07:26,733 --> 01:07:29,053
Speaker 2: It is twenty to three, Ziegler and Brown. That's what

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01:07:29,093 --> 01:07:31,333
Speaker 2: I've got. Nice good barbie. Ye, it's a very good barbie.

1472
01:07:31,373 --> 01:07:32,893
Speaker 2: But no, we'll do it someone else else.

1473
01:07:34,373 --> 01:07:37,453
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eighty ten eighty

1474
01:07:37,653 --> 01:07:41,413
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety Tick

1475
01:07:41,573 --> 01:07:45,013
Speaker 1: every box, a seamless experience of weeds news Talk.

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01:07:44,853 --> 01:07:48,293
Speaker 3: Said, be good afternoon. It is seventeen to three, and

1477
01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:51,493
Speaker 3: we're talking about how friendly we are as Kiwi's.

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01:07:51,133 --> 01:07:55,533
Speaker 2: I'm pretty friendly. Some ex pats, immigrants to our country. Yeah,

1479
01:07:55,813 --> 01:07:58,653
Speaker 2: live near me, neighbors. They came running around the other day.

1480
01:07:58,613 --> 01:08:00,053
Speaker 2: Ye asked me to go to the house and killor

1481
01:08:00,133 --> 01:08:02,293
Speaker 2: mouse for them because they were scared. Did you do it?

1482
01:08:02,693 --> 01:08:03,253
Speaker 9: I did?

1483
01:08:03,653 --> 01:08:05,533
Speaker 2: Wow? Actually I went around and got it in a

1484
01:08:05,573 --> 01:08:07,773
Speaker 2: tupway container and released it into the wild, did ye?

1485
01:08:07,893 --> 01:08:09,853
Speaker 2: But I say them from a rodent, Well, God, that's

1486
01:08:09,853 --> 01:08:10,613
Speaker 2: pretty friendly for me.

1487
01:08:10,653 --> 01:08:12,253
Speaker 3: That is very friendly. There's very neighborly.

1488
01:08:12,333 --> 01:08:15,013
Speaker 2: Hi, Mett and Tyler. I'm an ex South Africa now

1489
01:08:15,013 --> 01:08:17,893
Speaker 2: living in New Zealand for six years. Having done my

1490
01:08:17,893 --> 01:08:21,093
Speaker 2: citizen ceremony for New Zealand citizens, I'm definitely I can

1491
01:08:21,133 --> 01:08:23,973
Speaker 2: definitely tell you it is extremely difficult to make friends

1492
01:08:23,973 --> 01:08:26,732
Speaker 2: with Kiwi's as I've tried to integrate and nothing works.

1493
01:08:27,053 --> 01:08:29,213
Speaker 2: So my only mates in New Zealand are South Africans

1494
01:08:29,253 --> 01:08:33,053
Speaker 2: and British people. Cheers from Christa. That's interesting because a

1495
01:08:33,093 --> 01:08:35,693
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about when they move to other countries,

1496
01:08:35,893 --> 01:08:38,612
Speaker 2: like if you were a New Zealander and you move

1497
01:08:38,732 --> 01:08:43,093
Speaker 2: to Britain, you often end up just banging around with Australians,

1498
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:44,612
Speaker 2: New Zealanders and South Africa the.

1499
01:08:44,652 --> 01:08:48,132
Speaker 3: Old pub crawl. Yeah, Carl, well, how are you this afternoon?

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01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:49,532
Speaker 4: Oh?

1501
01:08:49,612 --> 01:08:49,772
Speaker 10: Good?

1502
01:08:49,812 --> 01:08:51,972
Speaker 17: There flushing your eyes on the way.

1503
01:08:51,853 --> 01:08:55,213
Speaker 3: To very good. Now your phone line is a little

1504
01:08:55,213 --> 01:08:57,932
Speaker 3: bit crekically, Carl Well, but will persevere? Actually? Is there

1505
01:08:57,933 --> 01:09:04,173
Speaker 3: any change? You can come off the speakerphone. Yeah, yeah,

1506
01:09:04,213 --> 01:09:05,933
Speaker 3: what we'll do, We'll come We'll come back to you,

1507
01:09:06,013 --> 01:09:07,532
Speaker 3: car Well, because we want to hear what you've got

1508
01:09:07,532 --> 01:09:09,093
Speaker 3: to say. So we'll just get your da, have a

1509
01:09:09,213 --> 01:09:11,412
Speaker 3: chat with Andrew and get you off that speaker phone.

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Speaker 3: But let's have a check to Simon. How are you good?

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01:09:14,812 --> 01:09:15,692
Speaker 7: Thanks? Guys, how are you?

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01:09:15,772 --> 01:09:18,253
Speaker 2: Yeah good? What do you think about the friendliness of

1513
01:09:18,293 --> 01:09:19,492
Speaker 2: New Zealanders?

1514
01:09:20,173 --> 01:09:22,812
Speaker 18: Well, I still think in general we're really friendly people.

1515
01:09:22,893 --> 01:09:28,052
Speaker 18: But my entire working life, I've been frontline customer service,

1516
01:09:28,412 --> 01:09:33,572
Speaker 18: and the last sixteen years i've been in the aviation industry.

1517
01:09:33,612 --> 01:09:35,053
Speaker 18: I'm that guy that will meet you at the door

1518
01:09:35,053 --> 01:09:36,772
Speaker 18: of the aircraft with a big smile and I say

1519
01:09:36,772 --> 01:09:39,492
Speaker 18: welcome on board and all of that. But what I've noticed,

1520
01:09:39,532 --> 01:09:41,732
Speaker 18: I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this opinion.

1521
01:09:42,732 --> 01:09:47,253
Speaker 18: I think post COVID, certainly the younger generations in this

1522
01:09:47,372 --> 01:09:52,652
Speaker 18: country have so much less patient and so much more

1523
01:09:52,973 --> 01:09:57,252
Speaker 18: entitlement than they ever used to. And I think that personally,

1524
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:01,213
Speaker 18: I think that has contributed to perhaps a lot of friendliness,

1525
01:10:01,253 --> 01:10:06,532
Speaker 18: sort of a perception of friendliness people because honestly, you know,

1526
01:10:06,612 --> 01:10:09,612
Speaker 18: you ask someone the smallest thing, I'm going to need

1527
01:10:09,612 --> 01:10:11,572
Speaker 18: you to move that very small bag from the locker

1528
01:10:11,612 --> 01:10:13,652
Speaker 18: above your head. We need to accommodate the bigger bags,

1529
01:10:14,013 --> 01:10:16,532
Speaker 18: and honestly, it's like you've given them the worst in thought.

1530
01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:20,572
Speaker 18: You could have no understanding, there's no patience, and I

1531
01:10:20,692 --> 01:10:23,772
Speaker 18: just I'm just wondering how much of what everyone quote

1532
01:10:23,853 --> 01:10:28,013
Speaker 18: unquote went through during the lockdowns and everything has contributed

1533
01:10:28,053 --> 01:10:30,213
Speaker 18: to their feeling of entitlement that it just isn't this

1534
01:10:30,372 --> 01:10:33,772
Speaker 18: patient or general social nicety that there used to be

1535
01:10:33,812 --> 01:10:34,612
Speaker 18: prior to COVID.

1536
01:10:34,772 --> 01:10:36,812
Speaker 2: Well, there's one thing for sure, Simon, it will I

1537
01:10:36,893 --> 01:10:39,133
Speaker 2: won't have had no effect at all. It all have

1538
01:10:39,173 --> 01:10:43,053
Speaker 2: had some effect. And look, I think I think you're right.

1539
01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:45,213
Speaker 2: I think people are a little bit more testy on

1540
01:10:45,293 --> 01:10:48,612
Speaker 2: planes than they used to be. I've noticed that. And

1541
01:10:48,612 --> 01:10:50,973
Speaker 2: it's risky because if you fire up, you're going to

1542
01:10:50,973 --> 01:10:54,933
Speaker 2: be internationally shamed on TikTok pretty pretty quickly if you

1543
01:10:54,973 --> 01:10:58,652
Speaker 2: do it. But I think there's also just a lowering

1544
01:10:58,692 --> 01:11:03,133
Speaker 2: in people's attention spans in general. And you know, they

1545
01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:06,493
Speaker 2: talk about the TikTok generation, the you know, one minute videos,

1546
01:11:06,933 --> 01:11:09,253
Speaker 2: and you know, people's a teen ancient span has dropped

1547
01:11:09,293 --> 01:11:11,692
Speaker 2: a I think of the last major study I read

1548
01:11:11,772 --> 01:11:14,333
Speaker 2: is forty seven seconds that people can spin concentrating on

1549
01:11:14,333 --> 01:11:18,333
Speaker 2: one thing now on average, and that's absolutely pathetic. So

1550
01:11:18,452 --> 01:11:20,932
Speaker 2: something like trying to deal with the complexities of getting

1551
01:11:20,973 --> 01:11:23,732
Speaker 2: on a plane and putting your bag and the overhead

1552
01:11:23,772 --> 01:11:27,493
Speaker 2: locker that takes more than forty seven seconds, they get frustrated,

1553
01:11:28,053 --> 01:11:30,213
Speaker 2: and that's not good. That's not good at all.

1554
01:11:31,293 --> 01:11:32,812
Speaker 18: But I think it's sort of more across the board

1555
01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:37,133
Speaker 18: as well. It's not just obviously my industry. Just you know,

1556
01:11:37,213 --> 01:11:40,852
Speaker 18: a while back, I was in a I was getting

1557
01:11:40,893 --> 01:11:42,852
Speaker 18: some fast food, to be honest, and the person I

1558
01:11:42,973 --> 01:11:45,213
Speaker 18: on account is going to be more than twenty. I

1559
01:11:45,213 --> 01:11:47,732
Speaker 18: think it just sort of comes back to this MEBB generation.

1560
01:11:48,093 --> 01:11:51,932
Speaker 18: They were chewing gum, they were disinterested, looked completely bored.

1561
01:11:52,293 --> 01:11:54,772
Speaker 18: I asked the question about the menu, I just got yeah,

1562
01:11:55,652 --> 01:11:57,492
Speaker 18: And I don't know, I just had I had a

1563
01:11:57,572 --> 01:11:59,772
Speaker 18: care and moment and I don't think to the manager

1564
01:11:59,812 --> 01:12:02,213
Speaker 18: because I just wasn't happy, because because I possibly speak

1565
01:12:02,253 --> 01:12:04,933
Speaker 18: to your manager please, And this person in front of

1566
01:12:04,973 --> 01:12:10,372
Speaker 18: me rolled their eyes so far back in there, and

1567
01:12:11,372 --> 01:12:15,013
Speaker 18: I kid you not. As they crossed the restaurants or

1568
01:12:15,053 --> 01:12:16,972
Speaker 18: to go and get the manager, they put their phone

1569
01:12:17,013 --> 01:12:19,812
Speaker 18: out and with the tiktoking or whatever on their phone

1570
01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:26,612
Speaker 18: the manager. Yeah, that attitude would not have been there.

1571
01:12:27,492 --> 01:12:29,333
Speaker 2: Well, you can you imagine trying to do a clock

1572
01:12:29,732 --> 01:12:32,093
Speaker 2: like a retail job, you know, And I've done them

1573
01:12:32,133 --> 01:12:35,092
Speaker 2: for many years and I used to get bored clock watching.

1574
01:12:35,293 --> 01:12:38,012
Speaker 2: But I would have had a much larger attention span

1575
01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:41,372
Speaker 2: due to my incredibly boring upbringing on a farm as

1576
01:12:41,412 --> 01:12:44,093
Speaker 2: opposed to these people like, as you say, that's so sad,

1577
01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:46,972
Speaker 2: so they're going across the room and pick up the phone.

1578
01:12:47,013 --> 01:12:50,452
Speaker 2: That's just pure addiction at that point, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah,

1579
01:12:51,253 --> 01:12:54,132
Speaker 2: good on assigmon. But you know, as a professionally friendly person,

1580
01:12:54,532 --> 01:12:58,052
Speaker 2: you probably take specific umbrage to someone being.

1581
01:12:57,973 --> 01:13:00,452
Speaker 3: That rude calls you when you walk into a store

1582
01:13:00,452 --> 01:13:02,412
Speaker 3: and you're very friendly, high, how's your day going, and

1583
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:05,293
Speaker 3: you get you know, nothing back from whoever's behind the counter.

1584
01:13:05,412 --> 01:13:06,732
Speaker 3: And I've got a lot of sympathy for those that

1585
01:13:06,812 --> 01:13:10,293
Speaker 3: work in retail, but that and I think we've got

1586
01:13:10,372 --> 01:13:11,452
Speaker 3: Kyle Well beack.

1587
01:13:13,093 --> 01:13:13,972
Speaker 19: It is fair.

1588
01:13:14,293 --> 01:13:17,173
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful line. Now, Kyle Well, thank you for cooling back.

1589
01:13:18,452 --> 01:13:18,892
Speaker 14: No rights.

1590
01:13:18,933 --> 01:13:22,133
Speaker 19: And so the Keywis are super friendly. What I think

1591
01:13:22,253 --> 01:13:26,093
Speaker 19: of being in New Zealand in twenty eighty and the

1592
01:13:26,213 --> 01:13:29,053
Speaker 19: first thing was happened to me, like the common lover

1593
01:13:29,173 --> 01:13:32,732
Speaker 19: is cricket, and I started playing cricket for Wakata Cricket Club.

1594
01:13:33,532 --> 01:13:36,333
Speaker 19: I was playing in second grade and we called that

1595
01:13:36,452 --> 01:13:39,452
Speaker 19: team the World's eleven because it wasn't only me, it

1596
01:13:39,652 --> 01:13:43,493
Speaker 19: was a few Kiwis, Hawsey, Sot, African guys, Indiana Pakistani

1597
01:13:43,572 --> 01:13:46,372
Speaker 19: in there. So it was everybody around the world playing

1598
01:13:46,412 --> 01:13:47,333
Speaker 19: for that same team.

1599
01:13:47,532 --> 01:13:47,812
Speaker 10: Love it.

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01:13:48,772 --> 01:13:53,692
Speaker 19: Yeah, And it's not like they were welcoming, like even

1601
01:13:53,933 --> 01:13:56,972
Speaker 19: they created the two group teams for the same club, like, yep,

1602
01:13:57,093 --> 01:14:00,212
Speaker 19: we got more numbers in so we are like expanding

1603
01:14:00,253 --> 01:14:02,692
Speaker 19: the things. It's not like, oh no, we afuremate, you

1604
01:14:02,812 --> 01:14:06,013
Speaker 19: can go look somewhere else. They were pretty welcoming all

1605
01:14:06,053 --> 01:14:06,293
Speaker 19: the way.

1606
01:14:06,652 --> 01:14:09,652
Speaker 2: That's awesome, and it's great that you could bond over

1607
01:14:09,732 --> 01:14:13,013
Speaker 2: that she'd love of a game in the competition and

1608
01:14:13,293 --> 01:14:15,412
Speaker 2: and that team. Have you met friends that you know

1609
01:14:15,652 --> 01:14:17,692
Speaker 2: you you'd go out for dinner with or go around

1610
01:14:17,732 --> 01:14:18,173
Speaker 2: to their house.

1611
01:14:19,173 --> 01:14:23,053
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, it was our captain Mark Gill. So it

1612
01:14:23,253 --> 01:14:25,973
Speaker 19: was one of awesome guys. I worked with him. I

1613
01:14:26,053 --> 01:14:28,652
Speaker 19: work at Corey Person early morning stuff and he worked

1614
01:14:28,692 --> 01:14:32,092
Speaker 19: there too. It's pretty awesome guy even there. The coach

1615
01:14:32,173 --> 01:14:35,492
Speaker 19: of the other guys like around the club. Uh, Dusty

1616
01:14:35,853 --> 01:14:39,333
Speaker 19: is the guy who's always keen training the kids, getting

1617
01:14:39,372 --> 01:14:43,173
Speaker 19: the best of them, or he is super awesome Dusty.

1618
01:14:43,253 --> 01:14:46,133
Speaker 19: Did you say we call him nicknam Dusty?

1619
01:14:46,253 --> 01:14:48,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems like a good, good sort. Why do

1620
01:14:48,572 --> 01:14:50,572
Speaker 3: you call him Dusty? Oh?

1621
01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:53,933
Speaker 19: It was like he just like whatever the thing I

1622
01:14:54,093 --> 01:14:57,692
Speaker 19: bought him. If he is like pretty keen on hitting me,

1623
01:14:57,853 --> 01:15:00,092
Speaker 19: he can just make a dust off me, Like anyway

1624
01:15:00,173 --> 01:15:07,973
Speaker 19: he wants to hit me. After drink, I was like

1625
01:15:08,013 --> 01:15:10,452
Speaker 19: pretty good with the guys up there. Even I moved

1626
01:15:10,492 --> 01:15:12,133
Speaker 19: back to timor will stand there for one and a

1627
01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:14,772
Speaker 19: half year, played cricket there, but like it's a cricket

1628
01:15:14,933 --> 01:15:16,812
Speaker 19: which gets me with the guys up there.

1629
01:15:18,293 --> 01:15:21,213
Speaker 2: That's you know, a great link that India and New

1630
01:15:21,333 --> 01:15:25,052
Speaker 2: Zealand has combined love of cricket. You know, hence Christopher

1631
01:15:25,133 --> 01:15:28,412
Speaker 2: Luxon taking Ross Taylor over there for you know, to

1632
01:15:29,812 --> 01:15:32,173
Speaker 2: as he's trying to get the free trade deal going,

1633
01:15:32,293 --> 01:15:34,572
Speaker 2: because you know we share those ties. So you know,

1634
01:15:34,652 --> 01:15:36,013
Speaker 2: that was great that you got to come here and

1635
01:15:36,013 --> 01:15:37,692
Speaker 2: play cricket and meet a bunch of people. That's an

1636
01:15:37,853 --> 01:15:41,852
Speaker 2: awesome story. There is a bunch of techs saying the opposite.

1637
01:15:41,893 --> 01:15:44,412
Speaker 2: It's great if you're into sport, you can meet people.

1638
01:15:44,492 --> 01:15:46,893
Speaker 2: But if you're not a very sporty guy, then you

1639
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 2: have trouble. And this is people that have come to

1640
01:15:49,133 --> 01:15:53,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand and people that have gone overseas and struggled

1641
01:15:53,893 --> 01:15:55,972
Speaker 2: to get into the community. I mean, if you say

1642
01:15:56,053 --> 01:15:58,173
Speaker 2: move to the United States of America and you just,

1643
01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:01,052
Speaker 2: you know, would you enroll your kid in a sport

1644
01:16:01,093 --> 01:16:04,933
Speaker 2: you didn't know anything about baseball or American football? I

1645
01:16:05,013 --> 01:16:06,293
Speaker 2: mean basketball, you get in there.

1646
01:16:06,372 --> 01:16:09,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people that's easy, but they say, I Americans

1647
01:16:09,532 --> 01:16:11,852
Speaker 3: very friendly people. I suppose it depends on what state

1648
01:16:11,933 --> 01:16:14,492
Speaker 3: you go to, but that clearly is something that they

1649
01:16:14,572 --> 01:16:17,053
Speaker 3: get behind, right, that community feel. Whether it's your kids

1650
01:16:17,053 --> 01:16:20,053
Speaker 3: sport or whether it's Halloween or barbecues round at your

1651
01:16:20,093 --> 01:16:22,173
Speaker 3: neighbor's house, they are very good at that. You've got

1652
01:16:22,253 --> 01:16:25,932
Speaker 3: to say, yeah, well, yeah in some states.

1653
01:16:26,093 --> 01:16:28,692
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of Americans that ex pets living

1654
01:16:28,692 --> 01:16:31,452
Speaker 2: in New Zealand that have to become good friends with me. Yep,

1655
01:16:31,933 --> 01:16:34,692
Speaker 2: since they've moved over here. So you know, we're I'm

1656
01:16:34,732 --> 01:16:35,852
Speaker 2: pretty friendly to them as well.

1657
01:16:36,053 --> 01:16:36,972
Speaker 3: They love a barbecue.

1658
01:16:38,532 --> 01:16:41,173
Speaker 2: They don't Okay, well, I don't know, you can get

1659
01:16:41,213 --> 01:16:44,452
Speaker 2: them around. I'm trying to teach them about cricket. That's challenging.

1660
01:16:44,452 --> 01:16:45,333
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's tough of it.

1661
01:16:45,572 --> 01:16:45,732
Speaker 7: Right.

1662
01:16:45,853 --> 01:16:47,852
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and umber

1663
01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:50,293
Speaker 3: to call. We'll wrap this up very shortly. It is

1664
01:16:50,412 --> 01:16:51,212
Speaker 3: eight to three.

1665
01:16:52,652 --> 01:16:53,372
Speaker 2: The issues that.

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01:16:53,452 --> 01:16:55,732
Speaker 1: Affect you and if it have fun along the Way

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Speaker 3: B, News Talk, zed Be it is five to three.

1670
01:17:07,452 --> 01:17:09,652
Speaker 2: You were saying before the you believe Tyler that back

1671
01:17:09,692 --> 01:17:13,772
Speaker 2: in the day people were more neighbor league and running

1672
01:17:13,812 --> 01:17:16,093
Speaker 2: around in some kind of utopia. We had curse roles

1673
01:17:16,093 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 2: at each other's houses, barbecues, play cricket in the Cult

1674
01:17:18,293 --> 01:17:21,852
Speaker 2: of sact was beautiful. This Texas is everyone moves, moves

1675
01:17:21,933 --> 01:17:24,213
Speaker 2: as house prices go up. Old days, you'd buy a

1676
01:17:24,293 --> 01:17:26,492
Speaker 2: house and staff for ten years. That's true. People are

1677
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:29,093
Speaker 2: way more mobile in their houses used to be.

1678
01:17:29,772 --> 01:17:30,412
Speaker 3: Back in the day.

1679
01:17:30,492 --> 01:17:32,372
Speaker 2: People get married and that's my house until it's over.

1680
01:17:32,692 --> 01:17:34,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on. You know when I was a kids

1681
01:17:35,053 --> 01:17:37,532
Speaker 3: that the parents would be in that house for ten

1682
01:17:37,652 --> 01:17:40,412
Speaker 3: years and there'll be other couples of a similar age

1683
01:17:40,412 --> 01:17:42,052
Speaker 3: in the house for ten years as well as the spot.

1684
01:17:41,933 --> 01:17:43,932
Speaker 2: On and he says, I moved to New Zealand fifteen

1685
01:17:43,973 --> 01:17:45,692
Speaker 2: years ago after meeting and marrying a Kei we go

1686
01:17:45,812 --> 01:17:48,612
Speaker 2: in London. Only close friends I have are mostly other expacts.

1687
01:17:48,652 --> 01:17:51,333
Speaker 2: Only kiwi friend I have is someone who also moved

1688
01:17:51,372 --> 01:17:55,052
Speaker 2: around a lot. Yeah, right, this Texas here, everyone seems

1689
01:17:55,093 --> 01:17:56,892
Speaker 2: just a little bit angry since COVID. Yeah I agree

1690
01:17:56,893 --> 01:17:58,692
Speaker 2: with that, Yeah, I do. Everyone just seems a little

1691
01:17:58,692 --> 01:17:59,293
Speaker 2: bit more angry than.

1692
01:17:59,253 --> 01:18:02,732
Speaker 3: These Absolutely right, there was a great chat. Thank you

1693
01:18:02,973 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 3: very much again for all your phone calls and ticks

1694
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Speaker 3: on that one coming up after three. Mark Vitty he

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Speaker 3: and animal behavior as dog trainer, author and media personality.

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Speaker 3: You know him well and he is on the show

1698
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Speaker 3: taking your calls and questions about anything to do with

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Speaker 3: your beloved pets. If you're having a hard time or

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Speaker 3: little bit weird, he is the man to chat too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if your cat's crazy, your dog's a dick, give

1703
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Speaker 2: us a call on eight hundred and eighty nine.

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1706
01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:40,572
Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

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Speaker 1: That your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tylor Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: With the Volvo XC eighty on News Talk SEV Good Afternoon,

1710
01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:11,333
Speaker 3: welcome back into the show. Now, Mat I've got to

1711
01:19:11,412 --> 01:19:14,333
Speaker 3: call you up on something there. You've got your we

1712
01:19:14,692 --> 01:19:18,293
Speaker 3: we milkshake situation going. Yeah, that you had your mic on.

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01:19:19,173 --> 01:19:22,253
Speaker 2: That was bad. Sorry, Raylean, Yeah, sorry, Raylean. Raylen heard

1714
01:19:22,293 --> 01:19:25,812
Speaker 2: that I was shaking up my man shake. Then I

1715
01:19:25,893 --> 01:19:27,852
Speaker 2: forgot the micro was on. So it was very rude

1716
01:19:27,973 --> 01:19:30,333
Speaker 2: to do that during the news. But you know this,

1717
01:19:30,532 --> 01:19:31,973
Speaker 2: you know I've been accused of making a mess in

1718
01:19:32,013 --> 01:19:35,852
Speaker 2: the studio. Yeah on on Man Tyler afternoons by often

1719
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:38,772
Speaker 2: by the breakfast host on this channel.

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Speaker 3: How dare he?

1721
01:19:39,652 --> 01:19:41,013
Speaker 2: I can't make too much of a mess with the

1722
01:19:41,053 --> 01:19:41,452
Speaker 2: man shake.

1723
01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:42,652
Speaker 3: What does a man shake?

1724
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:46,333
Speaker 2: A man shake? It's it's like a protein protein in

1725
01:19:46,692 --> 01:19:49,293
Speaker 2: vitamin shake and everything you need instead of eating food,

1726
01:19:49,333 --> 01:19:51,772
Speaker 2: I'm having the man shake. And look how buff I'm

1727
01:19:51,772 --> 01:19:53,012
Speaker 2: getting pretty buff?

1728
01:19:53,013 --> 01:19:54,492
Speaker 3: A you're starting to trim down a little bit.

1729
01:19:54,532 --> 01:19:56,692
Speaker 2: Get pretty buff? There is that your lunch?

1730
01:19:56,812 --> 01:19:56,933
Speaker 10: Is it?

1731
01:19:57,093 --> 01:19:57,253
Speaker 7: Yes?

1732
01:19:57,572 --> 01:20:01,052
Speaker 2: It's a little man shake. You've changed, man, You've changed,

1733
01:20:02,253 --> 01:20:05,652
Speaker 2: but highly unprofessional. So apologies to to Raylean Ramsey.

1734
01:20:05,772 --> 01:20:07,692
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but are you going to touch the man

1735
01:20:07,732 --> 01:20:08,253
Speaker 3: shake tomorrow?

1736
01:20:08,612 --> 01:20:08,652
Speaker 7: No?

1737
01:20:08,973 --> 01:20:12,812
Speaker 3: No, I can't more man shakeman all on the man shake, right,

1738
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:15,572
Speaker 3: now this is going to be a good hour as

1739
01:20:15,893 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 3: it was last time he was on the show. Mark

1740
01:20:18,452 --> 01:20:22,053
Speaker 3: Vitti is a world renowned animal behaviorist, dog trainer, and

1741
01:20:22,253 --> 01:20:25,012
Speaker 3: educator who has been working with animals for over forty years.

1742
01:20:25,013 --> 01:20:27,973
Speaker 3: He's a trained animal psychologist and created the Dogs In

1743
01:20:28,173 --> 01:20:31,812
Speaker 3: online training program. He's about to launch Cats In and

1744
01:20:32,093 --> 01:20:34,532
Speaker 3: joins us once again on the program. Mark, very good

1745
01:20:34,572 --> 01:20:35,093
Speaker 3: afternoon to you.

1746
01:20:36,053 --> 01:20:38,372
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Matte, Tyler, how are you very good?

1747
01:20:38,412 --> 01:20:41,293
Speaker 3: How's the cats in coming along? I know that that's

1748
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:42,932
Speaker 3: been a work in progress for some time.

1749
01:20:43,933 --> 01:20:47,692
Speaker 7: Just finished it last week. Hands it in all done,

1750
01:20:47,933 --> 01:20:52,812
Speaker 7: fantas very happy, gets in the gentle cat teachers to

1751
01:20:52,893 --> 01:20:55,572
Speaker 7: have a raisor cat that doesn't hunt.

1752
01:20:55,732 --> 01:20:56,253
Speaker 4: So there you go.

1753
01:20:56,412 --> 01:20:59,213
Speaker 2: Okay, and when when's that out? If Tyler didn't say,

1754
01:20:59,253 --> 01:20:59,893
Speaker 2: did you say it?

1755
01:21:00,293 --> 01:21:00,692
Speaker 7: Stember?

1756
01:21:00,893 --> 01:21:01,333
Speaker 2: September?

1757
01:21:01,412 --> 01:21:05,452
Speaker 7: September is the ju date apparently so real stop looking

1758
01:21:05,492 --> 01:21:05,892
Speaker 7: forward to that.

1759
01:21:06,133 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 2: Real stocking stuff for that one.

1760
01:21:08,372 --> 01:21:13,052
Speaker 3: Absolutely fantastic, right, Mark. So, as we mentioned numerous times,

1761
01:21:13,133 --> 01:21:15,812
Speaker 3: it was you were so popular last time that we

1762
01:21:15,893 --> 01:21:18,412
Speaker 3: had to extend it out a bit. And already the

1763
01:21:18,532 --> 01:21:21,053
Speaker 3: phone lines have lit up, in the texts have come in,

1764
01:21:21,213 --> 01:21:22,932
Speaker 3: so we'll get into it straight away. If that's okay

1765
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:24,412
Speaker 3: with you, excellent, It's all good.

1766
01:21:24,652 --> 01:21:24,973
Speaker 7: I'll do it.

1767
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:27,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1768
01:21:27,253 --> 01:21:27,612
Speaker 3: to call.

1769
01:21:27,933 --> 01:21:30,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you got a problem with your dog or

1770
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:33,133
Speaker 2: cat or whatever pet and its behavior? Give us a

1771
01:21:33,213 --> 01:21:36,092
Speaker 2: ring o E one hundred eighty ten eighty. Allen, welcome

1772
01:21:36,173 --> 01:21:36,492
Speaker 2: the show?

1773
01:21:41,412 --> 01:21:41,852
Speaker 4: Is that me?

1774
01:21:42,013 --> 01:21:42,692
Speaker 17: It's Adam?

1775
01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:45,893
Speaker 2: Ah Okay, sorry, you're in the system as Allan, but

1776
01:21:46,213 --> 01:21:48,652
Speaker 2: I we'll call you Adam from now on. Adam, you're

1777
01:21:48,853 --> 01:21:51,173
Speaker 2: you've got a problem with your dog? Dog running away

1778
01:21:51,213 --> 01:21:52,812
Speaker 2: from Mark to address?

1779
01:21:53,973 --> 01:21:58,372
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, Mark, Hey, we've got an ass about at

1780
01:21:58,412 --> 01:22:03,892
Speaker 17: the moment, she's five did she just won't stop running

1781
01:22:03,933 --> 01:22:07,612
Speaker 17: away like We literally have to lock every window, every

1782
01:22:07,812 --> 01:22:11,253
Speaker 17: door if we go out, and if we don't, she

1783
01:22:11,372 --> 01:22:14,572
Speaker 17: will find a way out. She squeezed through a window.

1784
01:22:14,652 --> 01:22:17,173
Speaker 17: That's you know how. It's got the the latches on

1785
01:22:17,293 --> 01:22:20,012
Speaker 17: so you can't push it out too far. She squeezed

1786
01:22:20,053 --> 01:22:22,013
Speaker 17: through that. If we leave her out in the backyard,

1787
01:22:22,412 --> 01:22:25,692
Speaker 17: she will dig her way out. We run her daily,

1788
01:22:25,973 --> 01:22:28,572
Speaker 17: We take her on sniff walk to try and stimulate her.

1789
01:22:29,572 --> 01:22:32,972
Speaker 17: She's my wife is working from home, so she's got

1790
01:22:33,133 --> 01:22:35,692
Speaker 17: company there if my wife goes out, she will try

1791
01:22:35,772 --> 01:22:38,372
Speaker 17: and get out. We just don't blem and know what

1792
01:22:38,532 --> 01:22:41,692
Speaker 17: to do. And we we live in an area in

1793
01:22:42,013 --> 01:22:44,293
Speaker 17: South auklandhe there's a lot of straight dogs around, but

1794
01:22:44,452 --> 01:22:47,213
Speaker 17: we see them walking around and they end end up

1795
01:22:47,293 --> 01:22:50,213
Speaker 17: going home usually. But our dog will go and not

1796
01:22:50,333 --> 01:22:51,053
Speaker 17: come back at all.

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01:22:51,853 --> 01:22:57,532
Speaker 7: So does she self the separation distress? Does she get

1798
01:22:57,532 --> 01:23:00,972
Speaker 7: anxious and wine and howl and get distressed when when

1799
01:23:01,053 --> 01:23:02,213
Speaker 7: you go? Is that the problem?

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01:23:03,013 --> 01:23:03,852
Speaker 20: Not at all?

1801
01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:07,492
Speaker 17: Not at all, And she doesn't know it from home either.

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01:23:07,652 --> 01:23:10,372
Speaker 17: So when we got her as a pup, she was

1803
01:23:10,532 --> 01:23:12,732
Speaker 17: what fourteen weeks, so I mean not.

1804
01:23:12,933 --> 01:23:17,452
Speaker 7: Too young, no, no, yeah, it's nice. It's nice to

1805
01:23:17,492 --> 01:23:19,333
Speaker 7: get them in eight weeks. But that's all right. So

1806
01:23:19,372 --> 01:23:20,973
Speaker 7: I mean, there's no trouble with her bond with you

1807
01:23:21,093 --> 01:23:24,412
Speaker 7: by the sounds of it, so she's obviously very attached.

1808
01:23:24,933 --> 01:23:29,412
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, basically, it'll come down to environmental

1809
01:23:29,572 --> 01:23:32,852
Speaker 7: management with a situation. If it's not separation distress, which

1810
01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:34,933
Speaker 7: is the common cause of that, you know when they

1811
01:23:35,013 --> 01:23:38,093
Speaker 7: try and escape when you head out, then and it's

1812
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:41,812
Speaker 7: environmental management. And the good thing about environmental management you

1813
01:23:41,893 --> 01:23:45,093
Speaker 7: can normally set it up so it's safe, but you're right.

1814
01:23:45,173 --> 01:23:48,732
Speaker 7: If she's literally squeezing through and breaking through things, it

1815
01:23:48,853 --> 01:23:51,532
Speaker 7: does make it difficult. There are things called a sonic

1816
01:23:51,652 --> 01:23:54,972
Speaker 7: boundary which can teach them to stay within a boundary,

1817
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:58,532
Speaker 7: and so that's kind of a tool that you can

1818
01:23:58,732 --> 01:24:01,732
Speaker 7: use for those dogs that are just really challenging in

1819
01:24:01,812 --> 01:24:05,293
Speaker 7: those situations and that might be where you need to

1820
01:24:05,372 --> 01:24:09,093
Speaker 7: go to keep her and it certainly it works, but

1821
01:24:09,253 --> 01:24:12,013
Speaker 7: it's he's got to decide whether that's the way you

1822
01:24:12,093 --> 01:24:14,012
Speaker 7: want to go. It's called a sonic boundary, and there's

1823
01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:16,893
Speaker 7: a number of different companies that make them. So have

1824
01:24:16,973 --> 01:24:17,372
Speaker 7: a go at that.

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01:24:17,532 --> 01:24:21,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, ok, yeah, chance that I appreciate that. We'll give

1826
01:24:21,173 --> 01:24:21,532
Speaker 17: there to go.

1827
01:24:21,973 --> 01:24:22,492
Speaker 16: So you reckon.

1828
01:24:22,532 --> 01:24:25,133
Speaker 17: There's nothing mentally or anything like that wrong with.

1829
01:24:25,213 --> 01:24:29,692
Speaker 7: It, is just she's not suffering separation distress. Yeah, she's

1830
01:24:29,732 --> 01:24:31,852
Speaker 7: just an escape artist. I mean she's obviously learned to

1831
01:24:31,893 --> 01:24:34,093
Speaker 7: get out. Once they get out and they start getting

1832
01:24:34,133 --> 01:24:36,852
Speaker 7: out there, they learn to become who denis. You know,

1833
01:24:36,933 --> 01:24:39,812
Speaker 7: they start to really challenge the system once they get out,

1834
01:24:39,853 --> 01:24:42,452
Speaker 7: and then you kind of jig it up a little

1835
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:44,452
Speaker 7: bit and then they think, oh, I can try harder,

1836
01:24:44,492 --> 01:24:46,492
Speaker 7: and they do when they get out. Then they start

1837
01:24:46,532 --> 01:24:48,532
Speaker 7: getting better at it, which is what's going on there.

1838
01:24:49,013 --> 01:24:51,973
Speaker 7: So sonic boundary might be the story for you all the.

1839
01:24:51,973 --> 01:24:54,492
Speaker 3: Best that thanks very much for giving us a buzz

1840
01:24:54,532 --> 01:24:56,133
Speaker 3: and having a chet to mark. So just on those

1841
01:24:56,253 --> 01:24:58,732
Speaker 3: sonic boundaries, how does that work? I take it it's

1842
01:24:58,893 --> 01:25:02,053
Speaker 3: the collar based system and there get away vibration if

1843
01:25:02,053 --> 01:25:03,333
Speaker 3: they get too close to it. As that help.

1844
01:25:03,652 --> 01:25:06,972
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it gives you learn They learn

1845
01:25:07,053 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 7: by setting up a bound and as they approach, the

1846
01:25:10,213 --> 01:25:14,333
Speaker 7: boundary gives a warning tone about a meter out, and

1847
01:25:14,692 --> 01:25:16,732
Speaker 7: then if they go close, it gives a little static

1848
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:22,293
Speaker 7: correction and very quickly they learn don't don't go near that. Yeah,

1849
01:25:22,372 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 7: and then you can set the boundary up right around

1850
01:25:24,612 --> 01:25:28,053
Speaker 7: your fence line and anywhere else you know that you want.

1851
01:25:28,293 --> 01:25:30,133
Speaker 7: You can do acres of land if you want to.

1852
01:25:30,492 --> 01:25:33,932
Speaker 7: Very some people don't like using them, but they are

1853
01:25:34,612 --> 01:25:36,412
Speaker 7: an option for those dogs that are going to get

1854
01:25:36,492 --> 01:25:39,533
Speaker 7: run over or cause trouble out and about.

1855
01:25:39,412 --> 01:25:41,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, I've got I've got a question for you.

1856
01:25:41,772 --> 01:25:43,372
Speaker 2: Jump in there. We've got full lines. But I'm going

1857
01:25:43,452 --> 01:25:47,612
Speaker 2: to use this the advantage I have and controlling the mic.

1858
01:25:49,293 --> 01:25:51,173
Speaker 2: When my dog Colin when I leave the house right

1859
01:25:51,173 --> 01:25:53,293
Speaker 2: and he has that really sad look on his face

1860
01:25:53,812 --> 01:25:56,333
Speaker 2: because you're leaving, and he sits down, he locks and

1861
01:25:56,612 --> 01:25:59,532
Speaker 2: it's sad. Is that actual sadness or is it just

1862
01:25:59,652 --> 01:26:03,932
Speaker 2: got he's got a sad face? And b How much

1863
01:26:04,253 --> 01:26:07,093
Speaker 2: anguish does he go through in the time that we're away?

1864
01:26:07,293 --> 01:26:07,412
Speaker 10: Is it?

1865
01:26:07,612 --> 01:26:09,892
Speaker 2: Is it the whole time he's feeling that that way

1866
01:26:09,973 --> 01:26:14,452
Speaker 2: he's looking or does he get over it and just

1867
01:26:14,452 --> 01:26:15,652
Speaker 2: go and have a sleep and run around and do

1868
01:26:15,692 --> 01:26:16,092
Speaker 2: his stuff.

1869
01:26:17,013 --> 01:26:19,612
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there's there's two aspects that I mean, basically,

1870
01:26:19,732 --> 01:26:22,973
Speaker 7: dogs do we now know, feel emotions just like we do,

1871
01:26:23,652 --> 01:26:28,133
Speaker 7: and that you know, they're not necessarily exactly you know,

1872
01:26:28,213 --> 01:26:30,372
Speaker 7: we answer Morphis and say they're you know, they're the

1873
01:26:30,452 --> 01:26:32,933
Speaker 7: same as ours. They're not necessarily exactly the same. But

1874
01:26:33,053 --> 01:26:35,772
Speaker 7: of course dogs are highly social and get highly attached

1875
01:26:36,173 --> 01:26:38,812
Speaker 7: to the owners. The more over attached the dog gets,

1876
01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:41,893
Speaker 7: the more it's prone to separations to stress. So the

1877
01:26:41,973 --> 01:26:44,692
Speaker 7: ones who suffer separations of stress owl and bark and

1878
01:26:45,173 --> 01:26:47,612
Speaker 7: destroy and toilet and do all different things while you're

1879
01:26:47,612 --> 01:26:50,933
Speaker 7: away are the more serious cases. Then you know that

1880
01:26:50,973 --> 01:26:54,452
Speaker 7: they're suffering real anxiety in those situations. But I'll tell

1881
01:26:54,492 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 7: you what. There's one really cool tool that helps both

1882
01:26:57,612 --> 01:27:01,973
Speaker 7: you and the dog to resolve that issue. One of

1883
01:27:02,013 --> 01:27:05,253
Speaker 7: the mats is called a pet cube, and there's fur Cam.

1884
01:27:05,293 --> 01:27:07,333
Speaker 7: There's a number of differentes. It's a little unit that

1885
01:27:07,492 --> 01:27:11,053
Speaker 7: distributes a food reward automatically from just a single food

1886
01:27:11,133 --> 01:27:14,652
Speaker 7: reward from the unit. You've got a app on your phone.

1887
01:27:14,973 --> 01:27:17,093
Speaker 7: You can talk to the dog, you can watch the dog,

1888
01:27:17,173 --> 01:27:19,412
Speaker 7: you can listen to the dog, and you can you

1889
01:27:19,492 --> 01:27:22,572
Speaker 7: can reward it for doing appropriate behaviors. So what I

1890
01:27:22,652 --> 01:27:24,893
Speaker 7: do is when I when I'm home, I set this

1891
01:27:24,973 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 7: little unit up beside the bed somewhere or somewhere that

1892
01:27:27,612 --> 01:27:29,812
Speaker 7: suits you, and then I call the dog over to it,

1893
01:27:29,933 --> 01:27:34,412
Speaker 7: and then I click and or it yes, and I

1894
01:27:34,532 --> 01:27:36,333
Speaker 7: food reward it for just sitting in front of the

1895
01:27:37,253 --> 01:27:39,532
Speaker 7: little unit and tell them to lie down, tell them

1896
01:27:39,572 --> 01:27:41,933
Speaker 7: to do a couple of things. What I'm doing is

1897
01:27:41,933 --> 01:27:46,213
Speaker 7: I'm engaging and physically and with a reward, and so

1898
01:27:46,293 --> 01:27:49,132
Speaker 7: I'm rewarding them for engaging with me without being anxious

1899
01:27:49,732 --> 01:27:51,933
Speaker 7: when I'm there. And then I slowly start doing it

1900
01:27:52,093 --> 01:27:53,572
Speaker 7: just a little bit out of the way. I go

1901
01:27:53,612 --> 01:27:55,732
Speaker 7: out the backyard and do it. Then I start driving away,

1902
01:27:56,053 --> 01:27:58,333
Speaker 7: and then I've got the system that I can communicate,

1903
01:27:58,732 --> 01:28:01,093
Speaker 7: relate to them, check up on them, make sure things

1904
01:28:01,133 --> 01:28:03,652
Speaker 7: are going well, and reward them for doing appropriate that.

1905
01:28:03,933 --> 01:28:06,213
Speaker 2: What's that? What's that? What's it called?

1906
01:28:06,253 --> 01:28:07,932
Speaker 7: It's called a pet cube? Is one of them?

1907
01:28:09,372 --> 01:28:12,333
Speaker 2: I might check that out. My son had this horrific

1908
01:28:12,532 --> 01:28:14,893
Speaker 2: idea that he that he said to me once a

1909
01:28:14,973 --> 01:28:16,612
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we were walking our dog

1910
01:28:16,692 --> 01:28:19,213
Speaker 2: along the beach. He goes because when we leave the

1911
01:28:19,253 --> 01:28:21,652
Speaker 2: house with them, we take him to the beach. He

1912
01:28:21,812 --> 01:28:24,013
Speaker 2: must be at home thinking that every time we leave

1913
01:28:24,093 --> 01:28:26,372
Speaker 2: the house that we're going to we're going to the

1914
01:28:26,412 --> 01:28:29,013
Speaker 2: beach without it. Because he doesn't know that we go

1915
01:28:29,093 --> 01:28:30,732
Speaker 2: to work, in school and all the things we did.

1916
01:28:30,933 --> 01:28:33,572
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, but well you'll be surprised. He doesn't know

1917
01:28:33,652 --> 01:28:35,452
Speaker 7: where you go and based on what you do. Oh

1918
01:28:35,532 --> 01:28:38,053
Speaker 7: that's true. Yeah, you let your togs and your tael

1919
01:28:38,133 --> 01:28:40,772
Speaker 7: then he knows a smart creatures.

1920
01:28:41,093 --> 01:28:43,293
Speaker 3: Mark, This is great. We've got plenty of calls to

1921
01:28:43,372 --> 01:28:45,972
Speaker 3: get to, so just told there, will play some messages

1922
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 3: and come back to with more of your phone calls

1923
01:28:48,253 --> 01:28:50,732
Speaker 3: and questions for Mark Vidio eight hundred and eighty ten

1924
01:28:50,772 --> 01:28:54,772
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call sixteen past three. It

1925
01:28:55,013 --> 01:28:57,532
Speaker 3: is twenty past three. We're joined by Mark Vidia, world

1926
01:28:57,612 --> 01:29:01,652
Speaker 3: renowned and animal behaviorists, taking your calls and questions on

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01:29:01,893 --> 01:29:05,173
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Catherine, how are you?

1928
01:29:06,293 --> 01:29:06,772
Speaker 2: I'm good?

1929
01:29:07,053 --> 01:29:07,372
Speaker 14: Thank you?

1930
01:29:07,652 --> 01:29:08,892
Speaker 5: How are you good?

1931
01:29:09,093 --> 01:29:10,372
Speaker 3: Mark is standing by you.

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01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:10,852
Speaker 10: Go for it?

1933
01:29:11,732 --> 01:29:15,812
Speaker 21: Hey, git so much shy Mark. Hey, We've got a

1934
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:19,333
Speaker 21: gorgeous new rescue puppy. He's about four and a half

1935
01:29:19,452 --> 01:29:24,532
Speaker 21: months old now and obviously has had a harder start to.

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Speaker 6: Life than all all animals.

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Speaker 21: And he's very very attached, very quickly. So I literally

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Speaker 21: go to the litter box and it's like I've left

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Speaker 21: him for a year, and jumps and cries and he is,

1940
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Speaker 21: you know, quite genuinely upsets. But I've literally been gone

1941
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Speaker 21: for thirty seconds. Is there anything I can do to

1942
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:50,173
Speaker 21: help him with their?

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01:29:51,412 --> 01:29:54,133
Speaker 7: Yeah? Definitely, definitely. So you heard me, might have heard

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01:29:54,133 --> 01:29:56,772
Speaker 7: me just on the previous call. I think that the

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01:29:56,853 --> 01:29:59,773
Speaker 7: previous one may have been separated distress, but it didn't

1946
01:29:59,772 --> 01:30:03,012
Speaker 7: sound like that was. But this is so and it's

1947
01:30:03,372 --> 01:30:06,492
Speaker 7: very natural for dogs, and particularly so with rescue dogs

1948
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Speaker 7: because of course they come out of a tough situation

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01:30:09,013 --> 01:30:12,572
Speaker 7: often and once they get that forever owner, you know,

1950
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Speaker 7: got their paws wrapped around that forever owner there, they

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Speaker 7: ain't going.

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Speaker 11: To let go.

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Speaker 7: And so there's a bit of you know, extra attachment

1954
01:30:20,372 --> 01:30:24,053
Speaker 7: happens when the dogs had a tough start. That's not unusual. Now,

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01:30:24,133 --> 01:30:26,772
Speaker 7: by what age was was he when you got him?

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Speaker 21: We've had him for seven weeks.

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Speaker 7: Now, yeah, okay, yeah, so he was Yeah, so it's

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01:30:35,492 --> 01:30:36,933
Speaker 7: just over two two and a half months when you

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01:30:36,973 --> 01:30:40,213
Speaker 7: got him something like that. Was he maybe three months? Yeah,

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01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:43,092
Speaker 7: so look slightly late, you know, because the formative period

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01:30:43,213 --> 01:30:45,892
Speaker 7: is three to sixteen weeks, you know, so that's the time.

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01:30:46,412 --> 01:30:50,213
Speaker 7: By four months their socialization it closes down a little bit.

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01:30:50,293 --> 01:30:54,132
Speaker 7: But clearly he's quite social, so that's good. But separation

1964
01:30:54,293 --> 01:30:58,093
Speaker 7: distress is an over attachment issue. And you can always

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01:30:58,173 --> 01:31:01,093
Speaker 7: jump on. I've got a discount fifty percent discount on

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01:31:01,492 --> 01:31:04,572
Speaker 7: dogs in dot com just dogs in in fifty Jump

1967
01:31:04,652 --> 01:31:08,173
Speaker 7: on and look at the video that I call graduated

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Speaker 7: departure for separation to stress. And that's what you need

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Speaker 7: to do. And you heard me just talk about that

1970
01:31:14,333 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 7: tool also that I was just talking about the pet cube.

1971
01:31:17,452 --> 01:31:20,852
Speaker 7: That's another tool that's really useful. For separation to stress.

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01:31:21,372 --> 01:31:25,452
Speaker 7: So you can grab those quite easily, and that's the

1973
01:31:25,492 --> 01:31:28,532
Speaker 7: one that delivers the food reward. You can talk through

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01:31:28,532 --> 01:31:31,372
Speaker 7: your cam, your phone to the dog, listen to it,

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01:31:31,492 --> 01:31:33,492
Speaker 7: and so on. But what the beauty of it is

1976
01:31:33,572 --> 01:31:36,612
Speaker 7: is you can use that to do the graduated departure.

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01:31:36,692 --> 01:31:39,812
Speaker 7: Graduated departures where you're teaching it to stay separated from

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01:31:39,853 --> 01:31:41,732
Speaker 7: you for very short periods of time, and you go

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01:31:41,853 --> 01:31:43,532
Speaker 7: back and click and reward it, and then you move

1980
01:31:43,572 --> 01:31:45,772
Speaker 7: away for longer, come back and click and reward it

1981
01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:48,372
Speaker 7: for staying calm. And so you're teaching it to stay

1982
01:31:48,452 --> 01:31:50,893
Speaker 7: calm while you're there still, but you're just out in

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01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:53,612
Speaker 7: the back or moving into another room. And so you

1984
01:31:53,732 --> 01:31:56,772
Speaker 7: get that graduation where they get to learn to stay

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01:31:57,013 --> 01:32:00,452
Speaker 7: non anxious while you're separated. And then you increase the time,

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01:32:00,612 --> 01:32:03,973
Speaker 7: you know, and so it's a systematic process of desensitization.

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01:32:04,532 --> 01:32:06,093
Speaker 7: So it's an easy thing to do, but it does

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01:32:06,173 --> 01:32:08,852
Speaker 7: take any effort. And the sooner you do it, and

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01:32:08,973 --> 01:32:10,732
Speaker 7: even that you know, we don't do. If you do

1990
01:32:10,772 --> 01:32:13,253
Speaker 7: it before you need to, that's even better. But here

1991
01:32:13,293 --> 01:32:15,213
Speaker 7: we are, so now we need to do that. And

1992
01:32:15,293 --> 01:32:18,572
Speaker 7: as I said, add in the pet cuban that really

1993
01:32:18,612 --> 01:32:19,692
Speaker 7: speeds the process up.

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Speaker 3: Ye, great question, Thank you very much, Catherine. Just on

1995
01:32:22,253 --> 01:32:25,812
Speaker 3: the rescue versus a pure breed or a dog that

1996
01:32:25,973 --> 01:32:28,093
Speaker 3: you buy, is it true, Mark that you know a

1997
01:32:28,133 --> 01:32:31,772
Speaker 3: lot of people say rescue puppies or animals tend to

1998
01:32:31,853 --> 01:32:34,893
Speaker 3: have a bit more psychological problems. Is that true or

1999
01:32:35,053 --> 01:32:36,492
Speaker 3: is that hyped up a little bit much.

2000
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Speaker 7: They certainly can have. But the beauty of getting a

2001
01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 7: puppy a rescue puppy, it's it's easy to get a

2002
01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:46,812
Speaker 7: rescue puppy than a rescue adult to be bunted, because

2003
01:32:46,893 --> 01:32:49,972
Speaker 7: the rescue adults often do come with a bit of baggage.

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01:32:50,253 --> 01:32:53,213
Speaker 7: At the same time. You know, I've trained and remember

2005
01:32:56,532 --> 01:32:59,412
Speaker 7: our previous TV shows where we rescued many, many different dogs,

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01:32:59,452 --> 01:33:02,812
Speaker 7: and they're all doable. It's just takes a bit more effort.

2007
01:33:03,093 --> 01:33:05,012
Speaker 7: But if you can get a rescue puppy, that's even

2008
01:33:05,093 --> 01:33:07,732
Speaker 7: better because as long as it's not too late into

2009
01:33:07,772 --> 01:33:10,732
Speaker 7: their socialization period. So if you get it ideally before

2010
01:33:10,812 --> 01:33:14,333
Speaker 7: three months, or certainly by three months, then you're pretty

2011
01:33:14,333 --> 01:33:16,492
Speaker 7: well going to be fine. You just need to get

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01:33:16,532 --> 01:33:19,572
Speaker 7: stuck in a bit more seriously in that first month.

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01:33:20,093 --> 01:33:22,612
Speaker 7: But I like to do that two to four month period.

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01:33:22,893 --> 01:33:25,412
Speaker 7: If I can get that period and get a pup

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01:33:25,452 --> 01:33:27,652
Speaker 7: on that time, I can create what I'm going to

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01:33:27,732 --> 01:33:30,492
Speaker 7: have for life. A really great part. That's the time

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01:33:30,572 --> 01:33:33,093
Speaker 7: when the eighty percent of the brain wise up, and

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01:33:33,173 --> 01:33:35,612
Speaker 7: that's when you really want to be doing your stuff

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Speaker 7: and doing the right stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

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01:33:38,293 --> 01:33:41,532
Speaker 2: So this pet cube thing where you'd be sitting there

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01:33:41,692 --> 01:33:43,572
Speaker 2: firing off treats and talking to your pet when you're

2023
01:33:43,572 --> 01:33:45,452
Speaker 2: out of the house, you can go to another step

2024
01:33:45,492 --> 01:33:47,253
Speaker 2: if you want to go fully crazy, and you get

2025
01:33:47,293 --> 01:33:51,452
Speaker 2: these robots, these pet robots that you can talk out

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01:33:51,492 --> 01:33:53,173
Speaker 2: of it, and can drop food out of it, and

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01:33:53,333 --> 01:33:55,692
Speaker 2: you can chase it around the house and be a

2028
01:33:55,812 --> 01:33:58,933
Speaker 2: friend to your dog while you're at work. But I

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01:33:59,093 --> 01:34:01,253
Speaker 2: know how much your boss would like that. Yeah, I

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01:34:01,293 --> 01:34:04,213
Speaker 2: don't know how much you'd boss would like that you're

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01:34:04,253 --> 01:34:06,772
Speaker 2: just running this remote control robot and entertaining your dog

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01:34:06,812 --> 01:34:07,772
Speaker 2: the whole day when you're at work.

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Speaker 3: They're going to have to deal with that whether you go.

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Speaker 2: It's it's more. It's a mere four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine. If you want that, if you

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01:34:14,973 --> 01:34:19,333
Speaker 2: want to chase you, yeah, chase your cattle dog around

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Speaker 2: the house, a little robot.

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Speaker 3: I'll put that on the mortgage.

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01:34:21,173 --> 01:34:22,572
Speaker 2: Yea us fure some food in it?

2040
01:34:22,652 --> 01:34:24,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, right. If you've got a question for Mark, O

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01:34:24,333 --> 01:34:27,333
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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01:34:27,973 --> 01:34:29,893
Speaker 3: back very shortly, and if you prefer to text, you

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01:34:29,933 --> 01:34:31,972
Speaker 3: more than welcome. Nine to nine two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: We do have full lines, but keep trying because when

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01:34:34,612 --> 01:34:36,372
Speaker 2: we talk to someone the line we'll open up eight

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty seven past three. We're joined by Mark Vidia,

2050
01:34:51,173 --> 01:34:55,732
Speaker 3: world renowned animal behaviorist and he's the founder of dogs in.

2051
01:34:55,853 --> 01:34:58,093
Speaker 3: You can check it out dogs in dot com. Mark,

2052
01:34:58,173 --> 01:34:59,932
Speaker 3: thank you again very much for your time.

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01:35:00,893 --> 01:35:01,253
Speaker 7: Yeah. Good.

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01:35:01,732 --> 01:35:03,412
Speaker 3: Now, you shouldn't have mentioned the pict tube because I've

2055
01:35:03,492 --> 01:35:05,612
Speaker 3: just been watching Matt. I think he's just inputted as

2056
01:35:05,652 --> 01:35:08,772
Speaker 3: credit card details and he's all in. It's on it's way.

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01:35:09,973 --> 01:35:12,652
Speaker 2: And then Tyler'll be looking over to me when we're

2058
01:35:12,652 --> 01:35:15,093
Speaker 2: in deep of a serious conversation on the show, and

2059
01:35:15,133 --> 01:35:16,812
Speaker 2: I'll be just talking to Colin and.

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Speaker 3: Find Yeah, yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:35:22,933 --> 01:35:24,532
Speaker 3: the number to call if you've got a question for

2062
01:35:24,692 --> 01:35:28,293
Speaker 3: Mark Stuart. How are you good?

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01:35:28,333 --> 01:35:28,972
Speaker 10: Afternoon? Good?

2064
01:35:29,053 --> 01:35:29,333
Speaker 7: Thank you?

2065
01:35:29,893 --> 01:35:30,892
Speaker 3: Now what's your question?

2066
01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:36,852
Speaker 11: I have a eleven year old rescue dog MCS freed,

2067
01:35:37,412 --> 01:35:40,133
Speaker 11: one of the breeds being a hunter away and he

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01:35:40,333 --> 01:35:44,532
Speaker 11: gets a little bit vocal when he gets excited, specifically

2069
01:35:44,772 --> 01:35:48,333
Speaker 11: going to the beach, and when people arrive at home,

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01:35:48,893 --> 01:35:51,692
Speaker 11: he likes to obviously greet them and then run inside

2071
01:35:52,253 --> 01:35:54,652
Speaker 11: buck his head off to let us know that someone's right.

2072
01:35:55,853 --> 01:35:58,892
Speaker 11: So really just trying to get see the boys under

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01:35:58,933 --> 01:36:01,652
Speaker 11: control without to be honest, I'm not really keen on

2074
01:36:01,772 --> 01:36:04,372
Speaker 11: the bark follows or anything like that. Is there anything

2075
01:36:04,692 --> 01:36:05,772
Speaker 11: else look at?

2076
01:36:05,933 --> 01:36:10,253
Speaker 7: Yeah? There is, Yeah, there is. There's training, and at

2077
01:36:10,253 --> 01:36:12,333
Speaker 7: eleven years old it takes a little bit of extra work.

2078
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:14,892
Speaker 7: He's underway. Of course, they have a great voice. They

2079
01:36:15,093 --> 01:36:18,492
Speaker 7: like to talk so and that's all normal. But it's

2080
01:36:18,572 --> 01:36:22,052
Speaker 7: very easy to click and train them to a quiet command.

2081
01:36:22,492 --> 01:36:24,732
Speaker 7: And you can always jump on the school and follow

2082
01:36:24,772 --> 01:36:27,812
Speaker 7: the quiet video where I teach you a quiet command.

2083
01:36:28,133 --> 01:36:30,333
Speaker 7: But basically this is the basics of it, so it's

2084
01:36:30,372 --> 01:36:32,893
Speaker 7: pretty simple. Get yourself a clicker and a pouch and

2085
01:36:34,652 --> 01:36:38,173
Speaker 7: we set them up and normally I set them up

2086
01:36:38,173 --> 01:36:40,892
Speaker 7: on a clip station which is a short, short lead,

2087
01:36:41,372 --> 01:36:43,973
Speaker 7: and work them on the lead, and I'm just so

2088
01:36:44,053 --> 01:36:46,932
Speaker 7: I get them speaking, and oftentimes for a hunter way,

2089
01:36:46,933 --> 01:36:48,852
Speaker 7: I'll teach them to speak and then to be quiet,

2090
01:36:48,933 --> 01:36:51,412
Speaker 7: which means he learns to bark and be quiet, so

2091
01:36:51,492 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 7: he learns what quiet means in relation to barking. So

2092
01:36:55,973 --> 01:36:57,732
Speaker 7: there is a slight risk in some of them where

2093
01:36:57,732 --> 01:36:59,532
Speaker 7: they get a bit too vocal when you're get them

2094
01:36:59,532 --> 01:37:01,772
Speaker 7: to speak, and they love that. But at the end

2095
01:37:01,772 --> 01:37:03,652
Speaker 7: of the day then you're just focusing on the quiet.

2096
01:37:04,333 --> 01:37:06,452
Speaker 7: But we click and reward them for a quiet for

2097
01:37:06,973 --> 01:37:10,173
Speaker 7: ten seconds and then seconds and then thirty seconds, and

2098
01:37:10,333 --> 01:37:14,053
Speaker 7: we teach him to delay. That delay is barking for

2099
01:37:14,213 --> 01:37:16,133
Speaker 7: that reward, and by the time you get to a

2100
01:37:16,173 --> 01:37:19,612
Speaker 7: minute or two, you've got your quiet command on and

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01:37:19,692 --> 01:37:22,293
Speaker 7: then you're start working on into those situations where he's

2102
01:37:22,333 --> 01:37:25,012
Speaker 7: doing it, because obviously he's doing it in high arousal

2103
01:37:25,133 --> 01:37:30,132
Speaker 7: situations beach and visitors coming. So start out of that context.

2104
01:37:30,173 --> 01:37:32,492
Speaker 7: Always start in a simple context. Once you've got the

2105
01:37:32,492 --> 01:37:35,333
Speaker 7: command on him, then start working on lead into that

2106
01:37:35,572 --> 01:37:39,852
Speaker 7: situation and as I said, the video shows you exactly

2107
01:37:39,893 --> 01:37:42,852
Speaker 7: how to do it, and you're also using a check

2108
01:37:42,933 --> 01:37:44,972
Speaker 7: lead just to stop him if he gets really vocal,

2109
01:37:45,213 --> 01:37:47,652
Speaker 7: and then click them rewarding him, and it's called contrast training,

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01:37:48,133 --> 01:37:51,013
Speaker 7: and it teaches him to be quiet normally. Within a

2111
01:37:51,053 --> 01:37:52,452
Speaker 7: couple of days, you can get that sort of.

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01:37:52,732 --> 01:37:56,212
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't go. Definitely have a look at the online.

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01:37:57,532 --> 01:37:59,612
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, if you jump on at the moment, you

2114
01:37:59,612 --> 01:38:01,812
Speaker 7: can get dogs in fifty You get a fifty per

2115
01:38:01,853 --> 01:38:04,692
Speaker 7: cent diskin on that first month. It's just on a

2116
01:38:04,732 --> 01:38:07,013
Speaker 7: monthly basis. So you just jump on and just learn

2117
01:38:07,053 --> 01:38:09,093
Speaker 7: how to do it, and then jump both and you're

2118
01:38:09,093 --> 01:38:09,412
Speaker 7: all good.

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Speaker 2: A horrific thing I witnessed was the neighbors of my

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01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:16,612
Speaker 2: grandmother who had three cor geese and they barked a lot,

2121
01:38:16,692 --> 01:38:22,092
Speaker 2: and then one day she got their voice boxes remote

2122
01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:28,213
Speaker 2: and then constantly you had these corgy's going this is

2123
01:38:28,372 --> 01:38:32,532
Speaker 2: concept sound. It was horrific.

2124
01:38:32,973 --> 01:38:35,612
Speaker 7: Would have been get your dogs, d bag, it's not.

2125
01:38:36,532 --> 01:38:38,173
Speaker 2: Is that something that people can still do?

2126
01:38:39,253 --> 01:38:39,452
Speaker 14: Mark?

2127
01:38:39,572 --> 01:38:40,012
Speaker 2: Is that still?

2128
01:38:40,253 --> 01:38:42,812
Speaker 7: Yeah? I'm trying to think whether we've we've stopped most

2129
01:38:42,893 --> 01:38:45,452
Speaker 7: of those kind of operations. I must just check with

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01:38:45,893 --> 01:38:49,453
Speaker 7: de Baking so as I'm aware it's it's not recommended.

2131
01:38:49,532 --> 01:38:50,972
Speaker 7: Certainly it was a horror show.

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01:38:52,253 --> 01:38:55,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, those three, those three Corgis were a horror shown.

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01:38:56,372 --> 01:38:59,213
Speaker 7: That is horrific, not pretty sound. Is that it's worse

2134
01:38:59,253 --> 01:38:59,732
Speaker 7: than the back?

2135
01:38:59,973 --> 01:39:03,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Now we're joined by Mark Video World renowned

2136
01:39:03,893 --> 01:39:07,733
Speaker 3: animal behaviorist you'd know them well, author and TV personality.

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01:39:07,893 --> 01:39:10,572
Speaker 3: Taking your calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty

2138
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Speaker 3: If you want to send through a text with a

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01:39:13,093 --> 01:39:15,013
Speaker 3: question for Markey, more than welcome through nine two nine

2140
01:39:15,093 --> 01:39:17,772
Speaker 3: two is that text number. We've got headlines coming up

2141
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Speaker 3: and then we'll take some more of your calls. It

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Speaker 3: is twenty nine to four.

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Speaker 4: trouble with a blue bubble. The Prime Ministers hit back

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Speaker 4: at ACT criticism over keeping New Zealand and the Paris

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Speaker 4: parole breach and says guards beat him up when he

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Speaker 4: refused to double bunk. Correction says he threw an object

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Speaker 4: and took up a fighting stance and it stood down

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Speaker 4: as staffer during investigations, Our foreign minister says he's leaving

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Speaker 4: the US with more certainty about our trade relationship after

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Speaker 4: talks with high level officials. Complaints so z postbox is

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Speaker 4: signs making it clear they were closed when woman's bow

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Speaker 4: cancer screening test results were delayed after using an unmarked

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Speaker 4: but obsolete box. Doc says a US tourist claim of

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Speaker 4: spotting a moose near Fieldland's Kepler trackers unlikely and suspects

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are joined by

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Speaker 3: Mark Vitti, a world renowned animal behaviorist. He's an author,

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Speaker 3: he's a TV personality, and he knowses stuff, so he's

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Speaker 3: taking your calls on our eight hundred and eighty teen eighty.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking before about the horror show of

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Speaker 2: the three corgies that lived next to my grandmother that

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Speaker 2: had their they were devocalized, they had their barking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess the voiceboxes removed from them. I was so

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Speaker 2: excited to see because I said, love those corgies. I'd

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01:41:10,572 --> 01:41:11,812
Speaker 2: run out and bark at me. One day I turned

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Speaker 2: up and was I've just looked that. Surgical procedures that

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Speaker 2: are restricted under s. Seventeen of the Animal Welfare at

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine and can only be performed in the

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Speaker 2: interests of the animals include debarking a dog, decloring a cat,

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Speaker 2: and docking the tail of a horse. So you can't

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Speaker 2: debark your dog just because it's annoying you. It has

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Speaker 2: to be for the welfare of the animal.

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Speaker 3: That is great news. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. So the number to call

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Speaker 3: if you can't get through, keep trying. Aaron Mark is

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Speaker 3: standing by for your question.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, how you going? Hey, look a bit of a

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Speaker 22: full help. So I'll start from the beginning and got

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Speaker 22: a cat eleven and a half years old. My son

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01:41:54,412 --> 01:41:58,852
Speaker 22: is eight years old, just turned eight. The next household

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01:41:58,933 --> 01:42:03,452
Speaker 22: member was a pincer cross Foxy Jesse, she's just turned three.

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Speaker 22: Then we reheals a toy k boodle just over a

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Speaker 22: year ago. Who is about mister here she'll be turning for.

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Speaker 20: Then it's for Convert.

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01:42:16,652 --> 01:42:20,293
Speaker 6: Found a kissen just before Christmas, so we've now got

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01:42:20,333 --> 01:42:26,732
Speaker 6: a kissing as well. It's been a heck of a story.

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01:42:26,812 --> 01:42:29,173
Speaker 6: The old girl cat, she hated everyone that came into

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01:42:29,253 --> 01:42:32,492
Speaker 6: the house. She now gets a little fairly well with

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Speaker 6: everyone and has actually become a bit more social. Jesse

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Speaker 6: the three year old mini Pizer cross Foxy. She hasn't

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Speaker 6: been fixed, so she's the only one that hasn't been fixed.

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Speaker 6: We were originally going to try and find a breeding

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Speaker 6: partner forloy her, but we've.

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Speaker 18: Sort of changed sort of plans and now going to look.

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01:42:52,812 --> 01:42:53,652
Speaker 17: Towards fixing her.

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Speaker 6: But she has grown a bit of an attitude of

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01:42:57,053 --> 01:43:01,732
Speaker 6: being the boss in the house and can be quite

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01:43:01,853 --> 01:43:05,333
Speaker 6: aggressive towards the other girls, like not to a point

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01:43:05,372 --> 01:43:09,173
Speaker 6: that I'm overly worried, but I don't want it to

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01:43:10,013 --> 01:43:11,652
Speaker 6: keep manifesting, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's forwarded, you say, and three, Yeah, and she

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01:43:20,772 --> 01:43:23,492
Speaker 7: she comeing to Still she's still entire. Does she get

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01:43:23,532 --> 01:43:24,692
Speaker 7: worse when she comes into heat.

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Speaker 17: Yes, yes, she does get a little bit worse when

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01:43:28,372 --> 01:43:29,253
Speaker 17: she comes into heat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, dexing could could make a difference because the estern

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01:43:34,053 --> 01:43:38,572
Speaker 7: hormone you know that obviously peaks when they're going through stress,

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01:43:38,612 --> 01:43:43,333
Speaker 7: when they go through heat, is also increases aggressiveness often

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01:43:43,812 --> 01:43:47,412
Speaker 7: so often, and that's the the contributing factors, only one

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01:43:47,452 --> 01:43:51,612
Speaker 7: of them. So de sexing her should, you know, decrease

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01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:55,852
Speaker 7: that that behavior that influence, so that that's one benefit.

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01:43:56,093 --> 01:43:57,892
Speaker 7: The other thing I'd be doing is I'd be doing

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01:43:58,013 --> 01:44:03,852
Speaker 7: some direct socialization work. Identify the ones she's having problems with,

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01:44:04,133 --> 01:44:08,652
Speaker 7: and it's typically females versus females. Females fight for males,

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01:44:08,692 --> 01:44:13,492
Speaker 7: males fight males, and the dog worlders of generalization and

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01:44:14,093 --> 01:44:19,213
Speaker 7: males count out of females so like, so that but

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01:44:19,973 --> 01:44:23,932
Speaker 7: basically you know that the females are going to fight

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01:44:23,973 --> 01:44:26,333
Speaker 7: if they're going to fight. Now, what I'd normally work

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01:44:26,412 --> 01:44:29,372
Speaker 7: with is teachers using a clicker training technique or a

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01:44:29,412 --> 01:44:33,412
Speaker 7: click and reward them for contact immediately around each other,

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01:44:33,572 --> 01:44:36,213
Speaker 7: so I really get them to like being around each

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01:44:36,253 --> 01:44:38,973
Speaker 7: other by rewarding them for doing that, and so.

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Speaker 6: Regularly, sorry, generally speaking, they are they're actually really good

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01:44:44,133 --> 01:44:45,132
Speaker 6: friends and will curl.

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Speaker 17: Up with each other.

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Speaker 7: So what context is the aggression.

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Speaker 20: She over barks and over dominates the other girls in

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01:44:58,772 --> 01:45:01,452
Speaker 20: the house as your cats and the dog, and she's

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01:45:01,812 --> 01:45:05,092
Speaker 20: out in public she's become a bit more aggressive towards

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01:45:05,173 --> 01:45:05,892
Speaker 20: bigger dogs.

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01:45:08,093 --> 01:45:10,652
Speaker 7: Yeah, so on the if you jump, if you want

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Speaker 7: to jump on the school and look at what it

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01:45:12,853 --> 01:45:15,572
Speaker 7: called the meat and Greek technique, which is a training

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01:45:15,652 --> 01:45:18,293
Speaker 7: technique particularly for meeting other dogs, but it applies to

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01:45:18,772 --> 01:45:21,133
Speaker 7: your dogs as well, particularly when you come home. All

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01:45:21,213 --> 01:45:24,732
Speaker 7: this high arousal situations, which is probably when this is happening.

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01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:27,293
Speaker 7: Doesn't sound like she's flying and then trying to attack them,

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01:45:28,013 --> 01:45:30,852
Speaker 7: So that's good news. But really we wanted just to

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01:45:30,933 --> 01:45:34,372
Speaker 7: curtail that behavior. As I said, the the sexing may help,

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01:45:34,853 --> 01:45:37,452
Speaker 7: and secondly i'd be doing that meet and greet technique

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01:45:37,853 --> 01:45:39,852
Speaker 7: and if you, if you jump online, have a look

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Speaker 7: at that shows you how to do that with her

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Speaker 7: and other dogs and her and your dogs. But that's

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01:45:45,572 --> 01:45:46,852
Speaker 7: the technique that'll change it.

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Speaker 3: All the very that Yeah, all the very best there,

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01:45:49,452 --> 01:45:51,372
Speaker 3: and it sounds like you've got quite the doctor do

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Speaker 3: a little situation going on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, even cat eleven son eight, minipincer GC three, toy

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01:46:00,853 --> 01:46:03,612
Speaker 2: kirtle four and now kitten you've got you've got a

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01:46:03,652 --> 01:46:05,652
Speaker 2: lot on there a bunch of techs coming through His

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01:46:05,732 --> 01:46:09,093
Speaker 2: last phone calls. This is an interesting one for a

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01:46:09,133 --> 01:46:11,612
Speaker 2: little gross. How do I stop my border collie eating

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Speaker 2: his own leavings? And is that bad for him?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So it's called coprophasia, and and it's a it's not

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01:46:21,013 --> 01:46:24,933
Speaker 7: an uncommon behavior. It's not a common baby. But of

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01:46:25,013 --> 01:46:27,333
Speaker 7: course for dogs it's not as gross as it is

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01:46:27,412 --> 01:46:31,652
Speaker 7: for humans. Dogs actually sometimes eat feces. In fact, they

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01:46:31,772 --> 01:46:34,052
Speaker 7: used to eat our feces. That's how they co evolved

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Speaker 7: with us. And so because you know, we leave a

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Speaker 7: whole lot of stuff and our digestives, you know, and

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Speaker 7: our our feces, that's quite good to eat if you've

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Speaker 7: got official not them. But but anyway, the bottom line

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01:46:46,933 --> 01:46:50,532
Speaker 7: is it's not a desirable behavior. It can be induced

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Speaker 7: by dietary deficiencies, but normally it's something that develops when

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01:46:55,532 --> 01:46:58,932
Speaker 7: they're a pup and they're in a feces strewn kind

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01:46:58,973 --> 01:47:01,412
Speaker 7: of environment and they learn to eat the feces in

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01:47:01,492 --> 01:47:04,852
Speaker 7: that context. So normally what we do is it might sound,

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01:47:04,973 --> 01:47:07,012
Speaker 7: but it gets a place of gloves out. We bade

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Speaker 7: up feces with something foul tasting but non toxic, and

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01:47:12,452 --> 01:47:14,293
Speaker 7: we've start with a taste of version.

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Speaker 2: We get is there something fouler than dog feces out there?

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01:47:19,133 --> 01:47:23,532
Speaker 7: There is the dogs, So you know kyne peppers, and

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01:47:24,213 --> 01:47:26,652
Speaker 7: you go through, you make sure you check that it's

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01:47:26,692 --> 01:47:29,053
Speaker 7: not a toxic substance. Put it in a piece of meat,

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01:47:29,213 --> 01:47:31,732
Speaker 7: watch them spit it out. If that works, then that's

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01:47:31,772 --> 01:47:34,132
Speaker 7: the one to start with. And that's the first technique

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01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:37,012
Speaker 7: we use as other techniques, but that's that's the common

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01:47:37,093 --> 01:47:40,732
Speaker 7: first one. And we also look at balancing that dimetry

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01:47:41,053 --> 01:47:43,173
Speaker 7: deficiencies that could be part of the cause.

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Speaker 2: Very cool, Thanks for sure. It doesn't make for nice breath,

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01:47:46,173 --> 01:47:47,412
Speaker 2: does it when they start doing that?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you don't want to be lecked by

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Speaker 3: a dog that does that. Mark. Thank you very much

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01:47:51,732 --> 01:47:53,892
Speaker 3: again for your time. Just hold there and will take

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01:47:54,173 --> 01:47:56,372
Speaker 3: a few more phone Callszer one hundred and eighty ten

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01:47:56,452 --> 01:47:58,532
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It's eighteen to four.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on talk back Matt and Taylor Afternoons

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Speaker 3: Talk to Be News Talks it'd be. It is a

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Speaker 3: quarter to forum. We're joined by Mark Vitti, a world

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Speaker 3: renowned animal behaviorist. You know him well when he's taking

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Speaker 3: your questions on our eight hundred and eighty teen eighty.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a few issues with your pet, shall

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Speaker 3: we say he is the man that you should be

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Speaker 3: chatting to.

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Speaker 2: He's also very popular by the amount of texts in

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Speaker 2: the avalanche of phone calls we're getting coming through non stop.

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Speaker 3: But if you can't get through, keep trying, and if

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01:48:33,692 --> 01:48:35,692
Speaker 3: you want to send a text question, you more than

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Speaker 3: welcome nine to nine to two, Pam. You've got a

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01:48:39,253 --> 01:48:40,372
Speaker 3: issue with your golden retriever.

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Speaker 23: Yes, it's a family one, and he keeps taking different

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01:48:46,213 --> 01:48:50,372
Speaker 23: items like te tels, clothes, keys, footwear, hides them and

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01:48:50,492 --> 01:48:53,013
Speaker 23: they haven't been able to find them. They've got a

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01:48:53,093 --> 01:48:57,372
Speaker 23: really loude section, but there's hunted and hunted and we

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01:48:57,452 --> 01:49:01,372
Speaker 23: don't know where he's burying them. He goes to Dohy

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Speaker 23: Daycare once a week and other than that, he's a

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01:49:05,973 --> 01:49:09,173
Speaker 23: great dog, but he's just he's just getting air pain.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's a Golden Retriever, of course, I've got one

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Speaker 7: of those, so I know what it's like. And he

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01:49:18,732 --> 01:49:20,852
Speaker 7: loves to have something in his mouth, doesn't he. And

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01:49:22,133 --> 01:49:25,532
Speaker 7: he's a typical golden retriever. And and of course, and

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01:49:25,652 --> 01:49:28,612
Speaker 7: that means they wander off with them, and certainly they

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01:49:28,652 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 7: can end up in the wrong place. There's there's a

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Speaker 7: technique that I that I teach in the school called

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Speaker 7: discrimination training. And if you jump on and have a

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01:49:38,853 --> 01:49:41,612
Speaker 7: look at that video, that teaches you how to teach

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Speaker 7: him to discriminate about what he's allowed to take and

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01:49:44,412 --> 01:49:47,692
Speaker 7: what he's not allowed to take. And discrimination training is

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Speaker 7: the technique. It's a clicker training technique, and use the

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01:49:50,412 --> 01:49:53,173
Speaker 7: long line in the check lead. And so we're teaching

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Speaker 7: him how to how to discriminate and what to discriminate.

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Speaker 7: So he has all his things he's allowed, and we

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01:49:59,173 --> 01:50:01,293
Speaker 7: make sure he's got plenty of those, and we teach

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01:50:01,372 --> 01:50:03,812
Speaker 7: him that he's allowed those things, and then we teach

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01:50:03,893 --> 01:50:05,933
Speaker 7: him that he's not allowed the other things. Jump on

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01:50:05,973 --> 01:50:07,173
Speaker 7: the video, I have a look and see how I

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01:50:07,253 --> 01:50:09,013
Speaker 7: do it, and teach you how to do it. And

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Speaker 7: as I said, the dogs, how old is he now?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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01:50:13,053 --> 01:50:15,532
Speaker 23: Probably six, so I would say six.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I mean he's still middle aid, so

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01:50:18,372 --> 01:50:21,013
Speaker 7: still able to learn, and you know, oportum to get

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01:50:21,053 --> 01:50:23,093
Speaker 7: a dog by the time they are nine or ten.

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01:50:23,173 --> 01:50:26,293
Speaker 7: It gets pretty hard work trying to get them to

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01:50:26,492 --> 01:50:29,812
Speaker 7: rewire the behaviors. But of course this is a natural

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01:50:29,853 --> 01:50:32,412
Speaker 7: behavior a golden retriever to retrieve and to take it

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01:50:32,532 --> 01:50:34,692
Speaker 7: around and take it places. So the only way to

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01:50:34,812 --> 01:50:36,932
Speaker 7: teach him to stop doing it is to teach him

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01:50:36,933 --> 01:50:39,372
Speaker 7: to discriminate what he's allowed to touch and what he's

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01:50:39,412 --> 01:50:42,852
Speaker 7: not allowed. So jump on it. Dogs in fifty. If

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01:50:42,893 --> 01:50:44,333
Speaker 7: you put that and you're going to discount for the

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01:50:44,372 --> 01:50:46,412
Speaker 7: first month, you'll only need it for a month and

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01:50:46,492 --> 01:50:49,852
Speaker 7: then'll get the things sorted and you'll have a dog

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01:50:49,933 --> 01:50:51,253
Speaker 7: that doesn't steal all your good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I hope that helps. Pam Holly, you've got an anxious dog, Lick.

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Speaker 24: Yes, a high mass and child and thanks for taking

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Speaker 24: my call.

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Speaker 10: Mark.

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Speaker 24: We've got a foxy Chiwava bearded Collie cross eight weeks

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Speaker 24: old and she's been perfect. We're really well socialized, school pickups,

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01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:16,692
Speaker 24: coffee shops, writed ten dog packwalks. We've conditioned her to

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01:51:16,853 --> 01:51:19,732
Speaker 24: be home alone for short periods and hunts and hunt

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01:51:19,853 --> 01:51:22,652
Speaker 24: the trees and don't make a fuss when we come home.

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Speaker 24: She just we just bland in and she's been really

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Speaker 24: good one here. And it seems to be an allergy

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01:51:28,293 --> 01:51:31,213
Speaker 24: thim that she's got where she licks her front feet.

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Speaker 14: We wondered if it was coakea whether it was a

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01:51:36,412 --> 01:51:37,892
Speaker 14: chicken based allergy.

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01:51:39,652 --> 01:51:44,132
Speaker 7: Right, she's not, she's not. She's not suffering separation, distressed

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01:51:44,173 --> 01:51:46,333
Speaker 7: brother sounds. It sounds like you're doing You've done a

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01:51:46,372 --> 01:51:48,812
Speaker 7: good job of that. So she's not licking the top

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01:51:48,893 --> 01:51:51,492
Speaker 7: of the poor where she's got a kind of alesion

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01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:54,572
Speaker 7: on the top of the floor paw. She's licking between

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01:51:54,612 --> 01:51:55,012
Speaker 7: the toes.

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01:51:56,293 --> 01:52:00,093
Speaker 24: It's under the well up up the back of the

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01:52:00,253 --> 01:52:03,572
Speaker 24: foot to the little toe. We would call it on

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01:52:03,612 --> 01:52:04,692
Speaker 24: a horse, I don't know what you call.

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Speaker 11: It on a dog.

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01:52:05,853 --> 01:52:10,213
Speaker 7: That yeah, glory is she's so what what what? What's

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01:52:10,293 --> 01:52:11,932
Speaker 7: going on there? By the sounds of it, it sounds

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01:52:11,973 --> 01:52:14,893
Speaker 7: like a contact alogy. The most common cause of a

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01:52:14,973 --> 01:52:18,213
Speaker 7: contact alogy is wandering jew, believe it or not. And

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01:52:18,652 --> 01:52:21,812
Speaker 7: most people underneath their plants are wandering jew of some

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01:52:22,053 --> 01:52:25,973
Speaker 7: kind and that's really causes quite a bad inflammation and

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01:52:27,893 --> 01:52:31,412
Speaker 7: that analogy, and so that's probably what it is, But

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01:52:31,812 --> 01:52:34,173
Speaker 7: the best thing is is check it out with the

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01:52:34,213 --> 01:52:38,012
Speaker 7: vet and there's verse tests they can do to determine

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01:52:38,213 --> 01:52:41,852
Speaker 7: whether it's a food allergy or contactology or some other

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01:52:41,973 --> 01:52:44,772
Speaker 7: kind of cause. But it's really more of a medical

2391
01:52:44,853 --> 01:52:48,412
Speaker 7: issue that one. But yeah, that's the I would suggest

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01:52:48,532 --> 01:52:52,213
Speaker 7: it's probably wandering jew or something like that that's causing

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01:52:52,213 --> 01:52:53,892
Speaker 7: her a contactology under a feet.

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01:52:55,692 --> 01:52:59,893
Speaker 2: I hope that works. Good. Lack gale, you've got a

2395
01:52:59,973 --> 01:53:01,732
Speaker 2: dog that's not answering your calls?

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01:53:02,973 --> 01:53:04,572
Speaker 25: No, take your space?

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01:53:04,692 --> 01:53:05,173
Speaker 21: Can you hear me?

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01:53:05,213 --> 01:53:07,173
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, gotch a loud and clear you go for

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01:53:07,253 --> 01:53:07,572
Speaker 3: a gale.

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Speaker 7: Hi, thank you.

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01:53:10,732 --> 01:53:13,293
Speaker 25: We've got a six and a half year old, very small,

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01:53:13,372 --> 01:53:16,972
Speaker 25: adorable mini shaus with her. We just love and she's

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01:53:17,173 --> 01:53:19,372
Speaker 25: she's always been very stubborn. I think many schnauss are

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01:53:19,452 --> 01:53:22,492
Speaker 25: incredibly stubborn, and it's my way of the highway. So

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01:53:22,572 --> 01:53:24,213
Speaker 25: she's been quite hard to turn off her dogs. In

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01:53:24,293 --> 01:53:27,652
Speaker 25: my life, I've never known such a bad recall. She

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01:53:27,933 --> 01:53:30,692
Speaker 25: She's fine with my daughter, who's actually sort of broken

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01:53:30,772 --> 01:53:34,372
Speaker 25: horses and stuff, so los a very stern voice. She's

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01:53:34,412 --> 01:53:36,053
Speaker 25: away union ow. But when I take her for a

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01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:40,692
Speaker 25: walk twice a day, she's she's a let's a sniffer, sniffer, sniffer,

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01:53:41,013 --> 01:53:43,652
Speaker 25: and I get that that's their social things, but you

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01:53:43,893 --> 01:53:46,492
Speaker 25: just can't walk with her because or off leash, because

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01:53:46,893 --> 01:53:49,012
Speaker 25: you'd be two caves down the road and she's still

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01:53:49,053 --> 01:53:53,692
Speaker 25: sniffing somewhere else. And it's just that's not fun so

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01:53:53,893 --> 01:53:57,253
Speaker 25: much now, you know, because then and I'm wondering because

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01:53:57,253 --> 01:53:58,772
Speaker 25: when she was younger, she's get a lot of time

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01:53:58,853 --> 01:54:00,892
Speaker 25: on the farm and that's of fun. So she's run

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01:54:01,013 --> 01:54:02,652
Speaker 25: around heart bloot, you.

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01:54:02,692 --> 01:54:08,173
Speaker 2: Know with my jack grassle Whenie snows across the very

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01:54:08,333 --> 01:54:08,893
Speaker 2: familiar to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very much all those breeds, you know, in

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01:54:14,452 --> 01:54:17,612
Speaker 7: any any breed that's got us and learns to usually

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01:54:17,692 --> 01:54:20,093
Speaker 7: those a lot. Of course, dog's got two million times

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01:54:20,173 --> 01:54:23,612
Speaker 7: better smell than us, so it's not surprising that they're

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01:54:23,612 --> 01:54:27,052
Speaker 7: reading the newspaper while they're on the walk, and that's

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01:54:27,053 --> 01:54:31,253
Speaker 7: actually what they do do. So that really is is

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01:54:31,612 --> 01:54:34,253
Speaker 7: normally I use clicker training for recall. It's the most

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01:54:34,293 --> 01:54:38,893
Speaker 7: effective way and long line and there's actually at the

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01:54:38,973 --> 01:54:41,852
Speaker 7: video on recall on the school that you can check

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01:54:41,933 --> 01:54:44,013
Speaker 7: out and just see how how I do it. And

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01:54:44,812 --> 01:54:47,053
Speaker 7: it's and you want to be working on a long

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01:54:47,173 --> 01:54:49,613
Speaker 7: line after a while, so she's dragging the long line.

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01:54:51,133 --> 01:54:54,373
Speaker 7: But you need to have use contrast training. Whi's the

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01:54:54,453 --> 01:54:57,373
Speaker 7: technique which I teach in there and and you need

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01:54:57,453 --> 01:54:59,613
Speaker 7: to prove it, which means you need to once you've

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01:54:59,653 --> 01:55:02,133
Speaker 7: trained it in an easy situation, then you need to

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01:55:02,213 --> 01:55:05,653
Speaker 7: systematically work it out and the more difficult situations where

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01:55:05,693 --> 01:55:08,132
Speaker 7: there's dogs and people and lots of things around.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with your sniffy miniche now, yeah, all the

2440
01:55:12,013 --> 01:55:13,972
Speaker 2: bear scales. It's my life every morning.

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01:55:14,973 --> 01:55:17,932
Speaker 3: Now, Mart, we've got about sixty seconds left, so hopefully

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01:55:17,933 --> 01:55:21,173
Speaker 3: that's enough time. Quick text question Guys, my six month

2443
01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:23,693
Speaker 3: old labrador jumps all over me in the morning until

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01:55:23,733 --> 01:55:26,453
Speaker 3: I feed him. It's chaos. Will he ever settle down?

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01:55:26,613 --> 01:55:27,253
Speaker 3: Please help?

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01:55:28,373 --> 01:55:32,012
Speaker 7: Yeah. Clicker training is again the trick with labradors. If

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01:55:32,133 --> 01:55:35,453
Speaker 7: so food oriented, get him on the clicker. Clicker means

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01:55:35,733 --> 01:55:38,333
Speaker 7: he learns to exactly what you want him to do.

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01:55:38,693 --> 01:55:40,932
Speaker 7: And the trick there is click and reward four feet

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01:55:41,013 --> 01:55:45,052
Speaker 7: on the ground and he will earn that the hours.

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01:55:45,333 --> 01:55:45,733
Speaker 5: Brilliant.

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01:55:46,253 --> 01:55:48,932
Speaker 7: It's easy to do really, particularly with the lab because

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01:55:48,933 --> 01:55:50,493
Speaker 7: he's so food oriented.

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01:55:51,453 --> 01:55:55,133
Speaker 3: Fantastic Mark. We've run out of time. But man, we

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01:55:55,213 --> 01:55:57,892
Speaker 3: could have done this for four hours and we'll still

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01:55:57,973 --> 01:56:00,012
Speaker 3: have calls to get to. So we'll catch you again

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01:56:00,213 --> 01:56:02,453
Speaker 3: at about a month's time. If you want to check

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01:56:02,493 --> 01:56:05,693
Speaker 3: out Mark doc Zen dot com and as you've mentioned

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01:56:05,733 --> 01:56:07,093
Speaker 3: throughout the ale, you've got a bit of a deal

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Speaker 3: line at the moment.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and just jump on our Facebook page and meet

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01:56:13,453 --> 01:56:16,892
Speaker 7: us there and you know, do blogs and talk backs

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01:56:16,933 --> 01:56:19,333
Speaker 7: and Facebook lives and all types of stuff so you

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01:56:19,413 --> 01:56:22,293
Speaker 7: can communicate with me there as well when you can't

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01:56:22,333 --> 01:56:23,812
Speaker 7: get me on the screat show.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. Thank you very much, Mike. We'll catch you

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01:56:26,213 --> 01:56:29,773
Speaker 3: again very soon. That is Mark Vittie, world renowned animal behaviorist.

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