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Speaker 2: WHI You're welcome today. More numbers around our economy that

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Speaker 2: shows that recovery is very real. Also numbers around the

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Speaker 2: potential war impact of it drags SAS and their BONDI

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Speaker 2: attack Warning This morning Day to Kirk with some rugby talk,

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Speaker 2: in Great Britain Pass getting to it Thursday seven past six.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the Primary Teachers Union, they're doing my

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Speaker 2: head on at the moment. So what this country needs

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Speaker 2: a fewer people like them and more people, you know,

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Speaker 2: wanting to get on with it, Get ahead, dream beat,

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Speaker 2: b bold, work harder, generally look at life in a

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Speaker 2: more positive, upbeat way. Latest problem for the union is

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Speaker 2: they want facilitated bargaining. I bet they do. Unlike just

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Speaker 2: about everyone else union based who signed a deal. The

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Speaker 2: Primary Teachers lots think that they are so special and

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Speaker 2: so different. The fact they can't reach a deal like

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Speaker 2: everyone else must be someone else's fault. My line it

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Speaker 2: always has been, is have a structure a couple of tracks. Bitter,

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Speaker 2: back and forward are best and final. If you can't

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Speaker 2: agree compulsory arbitration, it is not facilitated compulsory. You argue

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Speaker 2: your case, the decision is made. That's the end of that.

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Speaker 2: These cases we've seen of late, as I mentioned the

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Speaker 2: other day, all go on for literally months, and they

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Speaker 2: all end up literally the same. In the recent cases.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's got about two percent this year, two percent next.

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Speaker 2: That's not a result that required the amount of angst

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Speaker 2: and anger and walkouts and placards and TV news stories

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Speaker 2: with moaning unionists talking about unfairness and shortages. What the

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Speaker 2: unions have never quite gripped is social license. The broad

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Speaker 2: idea of unions representing the most vulnerable of workers is

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Speaker 2: not a bad one, but like so many of these things,

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Speaker 2: it's turned into an industry where hundreds of people on

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Speaker 2: large salaries rely on division and upset to have a job.

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Speaker 2: Happy workers do not make happy Unionists and teachers especially

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Speaker 2: are not vulnerable. Cleaners are vulnerable. Teachers are largely on

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Speaker 2: six figure salaries on a bang for buck basis. Unions

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Speaker 2: don't pull their weight, they're not worth it. Stalling is

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Speaker 2: not a productive tactic. Placards the last centuries to technique

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Speaker 2: compulsory arbitration. I dare them to give it a go.

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Speaker 2: It's short, it's sharp, at ticks a box. We can

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Speaker 2: all move on. But why would you want to solve

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Speaker 2: an issue quickly when your very existence relies on the opposite.

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Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: From an American point of view, the wall seems to

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Speaker 2: be working.

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Speaker 3: The leader of the unit who attempted to assassinate President

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Speaker 3: Trump has been hunted down and killed. Iran tried to

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Speaker 3: kill President Trump, and President Trump got the last laugh.

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Speaker 4: Joint Chief's Chair, he's bullsh We're one hundred hours in.

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Speaker 4: It's still very early, but the balance is shifting. We've

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Speaker 4: always got to remember that these operations are complex, dangerous,

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Speaker 4: and far from over.

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Speaker 2: The Israelis are on the same page.

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Speaker 5: The Air Force at this moment is together with the

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Speaker 5: American military, the US Air Force over Iranian skies, hunting

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Speaker 5: launchers and destroying them. As time goes on, we will

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Speaker 5: destroy more capabilities and the number of attacks on the

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Speaker 5: state of Israel will decrease.

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Speaker 2: The occasionally counter sensationally one sided, of course, and almost inevitably,

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Speaker 2: given his way blind decided to have a cracket's living

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Speaker 2: on where you'll find the camera.

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Speaker 6: Then seventy casualties. We have more than seventy thousand displaced people.

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Speaker 6: People are you can find them, and they're all anywhere

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Speaker 6: people left their houses two days ago, in the middle

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Speaker 2: Night back in Britain, Sakia stumbled and bumbled and did

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Speaker 2: it his way into a decision to help.

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Speaker 7: What I was not prepared to do on Saturday was

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Speaker 7: for the UK to join a wall unless I was

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Speaker 7: satisfied there was a lawful basis and a viable thought

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Speaker 7: through plan. That remains my position.

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Speaker 2: Essentius doesn't agree now that there's macron as for the strike,

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Speaker 2: who moves the resinks at mosure.

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Speaker 8: It's an extraordinary site when you're looking just down here

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Speaker 8: to see people lying on sun lounges next to this

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Speaker 8: extraordinary scene which is you know, causing such an impact

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Speaker 8: to the world's oil supply, but also you know, which

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Speaker 8: is essentially a war.

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Speaker 2: Zone, oil stabilized. By the way, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: In the moment planes are startings move both commercially and charted.

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Speaker 2: Next thing to watch the cour words and the land operation.

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Speaker 2: But we'll work you through all of that this morning.

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Speaker 2: That's news of the fury in ninety the Besson's been

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Speaker 2: on television. He's jaw boning this hard out. So they've

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Speaker 2: Strait and that has settled the price of oil. And

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Speaker 2: more decisions and more announcements on that the coming. But

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Speaker 2: Andrew will give you the numbers in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. And we're going to

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Speaker 2: get a couple of defense planes up there, and I

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Speaker 2: just don't know whether they're going to be genuinely needed.

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Speaker 2: That Immirates flights inter Sydney arrived last night. There were

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Speaker 2: more coming. We've got an Immirates one coming as of tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Brits are starting. There's no as I said on the

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Speaker 2: program yesterday, there is no way in the world that

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Speaker 2: the UAE and Doha, etcetera. Are going to let this

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Speaker 2: affect the post oil dream. But things slowly starting to move.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen parts from him. Partner's Andrew Callahoggan morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so oil has settled them. It hasn't it one to

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Speaker 9: Yeah they did. They sort of calmed the market there,

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Speaker 10: are moving around a great deal. It's also very much

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Speaker 10: so hence the uncertainty. You've got to keep bringing it

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Speaker 10: a bit more clarity. Overnight last twenty for hours since

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Speaker 10: markets have rallied overnight, they've gone back up, particularly in Europe.

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Speaker 10: there's lots of There was lots of gnashing of teeth

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Speaker 9: They've been pretty well behaved in.

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Speaker 10: getting a little bit more talk out of Michelle Bullock

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Speaker 9: Mic There was an update on household.

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Speaker 9: The market's gone.

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Speaker 9: Height by the RBA.

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Speaker 10: I would have thought, Mike at the moment that central

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Speaker 10: given the geopolitical backdrop and associate uncending, you think they just.

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Speaker 2: We will take some good news here though the exports

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Speaker 9: Yeah, terms of trades. This terms of trade yesterday deck

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Speaker 2: Kelly morning, good morning. How fluid is this? I mean

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Speaker 18: Well, I mean I think the whole situation is quite fluid,

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Speaker 18: I think that if it gets up to eight weeks,

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Speaker 18: That could really depress their output, and that would have

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Speaker 2: I was reading something similar in Australia yesterday. See Australia's

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Speaker 18: That's right from an energy security perspective, we don't really

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Speaker 18: whereas the Australians do have some gas basically that they

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the numbers that you put yesterday they didn't strike

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Speaker 2: Kelly, good to talk. You appreciate it very much, Kelly

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Speaker 2: cold WESTPACTEEP economists. It is not World War three. My

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Speaker 2: not World War three. China's not getting involved. Russia is

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Speaker 2: If you're being scorched, which of the Iranians are you?

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Speaker 2: as and they're going to learn that lesson. But Qatar

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Speaker 2: of the ground operation. The Kurds have been armed for

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Speaker 2: they get control of the skies, they'll get the word

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Speaker 2: the ground offensive and it will be the beginning of

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Speaker 2: good for Trump. This is the Daily Mail jail partners

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Speaker 2: out this morning. He's down four to forty four, lowest

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Speaker 2: that this is going to make any difference. Fifty five

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Speaker 2: forty percent say their view of Trump's become more negative

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Speaker 2: in the last week. Twenty six percent say positive the

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Speaker 2: main reason they're problem And it goes back to, you know,

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Speaker 2: fight all the wars you want, but one prices are

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Speaker 2: too high, and now he started a war. So the numbers,

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Speaker 2: I mean, those numbers will change, of course once it

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Speaker 2: all gets resolved successfully, if it does. And that's what

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Speaker 2: war does do with presidency, and history tells us that fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Two International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 2: McKenna and Italy, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning mine.

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Speaker 2: So we' is Italy in all of this?

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Speaker 19: Well, it looks to me.

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Speaker 20: Like Georgia Maloney, the Italian Prime Minister, was caught on

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Speaker 20: the back foot, not the only European leader to be

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Speaker 20: kept out of the loop, but her special relationship with

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Speaker 20: President Donald Trump didn't seem to count for much with

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Speaker 20: this invasion. Meanwhile, Italy's receiving requests for air defense and

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Speaker 20: anti drone systems from the Gulf countries caught up in

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Speaker 20: this conflict.

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Speaker 2: They got a gibbe.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think the Italians are actually stretched.

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Speaker 20: The main request is for the what they call the

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Speaker 20: samped surface to wear missiles. It's a French Italian city,

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Speaker 20: but many of these are now being supplied to Ukraine,

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Speaker 20: so they might be in short supply for the Gulf States.

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Speaker 20: I'm not sure if there's going to be enough to

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Speaker 20: go around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about the use of basis for the defense

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Speaker 2: as they call it.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well, this is a little ambiguous.

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Speaker 20: The government is saying that no official request has been

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Speaker 20: received for access to the five bases that are in Italy,

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Speaker 20: but I think there is some flexibility there. There are

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Speaker 20: some suggestions that the Americans are already using Sigonella base

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Speaker 20: in Sicily for launching drones into the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is Maloney commenting public She decided to mean I'm

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Speaker 2: watching Sanchiz and Macron and Starma work out the legalaxies

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Speaker 2: of it all. She commented on that, Oh, she's.

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Speaker 20: Been very cautious in what she said, not really coming

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Speaker 20: on too strongly in support, but trying to go somewhere

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Speaker 20: in the middle saying she wants to see an end

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Speaker 20: to the conflict, but Iran has definitely done.

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Speaker 19: The wrong thing by the rest of us.

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Speaker 20: So I think she's playing her cards close to her

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Speaker 20: chest at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The pologist gave out on Trump, it doesn't work for

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Speaker 2: him politically at the moment, any sense of what the

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Speaker 2: Italians think of it.

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Speaker 20: Look, I think this is a great concern for Maloney's popularity.

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Speaker 20: Seven out of ten Italians are against this conflict in

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Speaker 20: the Middle East, and they see it as a grave

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Speaker 20: violation of international law. And if it goes on too long,

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Speaker 20: I think it's going to affect her and her popularity.

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Speaker 2: And then we just had a banker on here crunching

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Speaker 2: a few numbers of the straight stays closed. It wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be the same for you because you're coming back up

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Speaker 2: the other way. But is there any sins of an

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Speaker 2: economic impact of this, dregs for sure.

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Speaker 20: Already we're seeing European fuel prices have nearly doubled in

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Speaker 20: the last few days. Italy's seeing record fuel increases, a

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Speaker 20: sixteen percent increase in diesel fuel. Household bills could rise

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Speaker 20: by up to fifteen percent by April.

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Speaker 19: According to some experts.

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Speaker 2: What's the vibe. You look to you right on them,

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Speaker 2: you got a war. You look south on the map,

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Speaker 2: you got a war. It's sort of you're feeling a

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Speaker 2: bit squeezed.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think Italians are a little bit nervous about

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Speaker 20: where this is going to go and the concern about

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Speaker 20: the potential attacks. We saw a report come out today

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Speaker 20: from a reputable source saying that there was a heightened

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Speaker 20: threat of terrorist attacks and violence in Europe as an

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Speaker 20: overflow from what's happening in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Just while I've got you, tell me about the Last Judgment.

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Speaker 2: How long does it take to clean something like that?

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Speaker 20: Well, I hope some of your listeners have seen Michelangelo's

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Speaker 20: Last Judgment inside the Sistine Chapel. I'm sure they have,

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Speaker 20: believe it or not. It's been damaged by the impact

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Speaker 20: of millions of tourists sweating inside that Sistine Chapel. So

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Speaker 20: the impact of human sweat and human breath has caused

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Speaker 20: some discoloration of the painting. Now it's under scaffolding, it's

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Speaker 20: undergoing a deep clean and it should be completed by Easter.

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Speaker 2: I've got you. Also, the charging of stuff like the

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Speaker 2: trevy is that working people paying. Is are numbers down up?

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Speaker 2: What's happening with that?

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Speaker 20: I think the numbers are flowing. I did see some

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Speaker 20: numbers the other day. Unfortunately I haven't got them in

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Speaker 20: front of me. But I don't think it's to touring people.

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Speaker 20: In fact, Mike, walking around Rome yesterday, I was surprised

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Speaker 20: at the huge numbers of tourists still pouring into Amazing

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Speaker 20: and it's only March.

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Speaker 19: We haven't even got to East Ye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in all honesty, I'd rather shoot myself

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Speaker 2: than go to Rome in July, wouldn't you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean you mon't be able to move for Americans

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Speaker 2: with backpacks exactly.

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Speaker 20: But I think the tourism season is certainly extending from

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Speaker 20: February to November now.

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Speaker 2: So always a joy to talk. Take care, Joe McKenna

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Speaker 2: in Rome. By the way, they had some votes. I'm

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Speaker 2: in the weeds a bit here. They had some votes yesterday.

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Speaker 2: In the States, these are the very early business of

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Speaker 2: the primaries later on in the year in the state

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Speaker 2: Texas was your main story. I'll come back with the

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Speaker 2: results in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Nine to seven, The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of

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Speaker 1: a sport sv News, togs env.

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Speaker 2: Scot has barred the redrawing of the boundary lines for

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Speaker 2: the Congressional district of New York City. They did that

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Speaker 2: about a day ago, so the incumbent was happy about that. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: in Texas yesterday they had some very early preliminary votes

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Speaker 2: in this in these midterms which are later on this year.

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Speaker 2: They voted in Arkansas, North Carolina. The big news was

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Speaker 2: in Texas. In Texas, James Tillarico. This is the Democratic

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Speaker 2: side of the equation. James Tillerico won beat the congress

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Speaker 2: woman Jasmine Crockett, so he goes through to the main

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Speaker 2: midterms later this year. But the Republicans isn't decided because

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Speaker 2: the Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was against the US

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Speaker 2: Senator John Cornyn. They didn't get fifty percent. It's one

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Speaker 2: of those races where you need a fifty plus one.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get it. So the runoff is in May

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixth, five to seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the inns and the outs. It's the beiz with

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Speaker 1: business timer take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Housing News Catelites US Home Value Index. What are we up?

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Speaker 2: Are we up? Yes? We are zero point two for

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Speaker 2: fair biggest increase in the last four months national median

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Speaker 2: value in February almost eight hundred and seven thousand. Your

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Speaker 2: main centers did well. Donners, the dunner's role continues to

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Speaker 2: need an up zero point nine. That's just for the month.

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Speaker 2: That puts the medium price at six nineteen. Hamilton up

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Speaker 2: zero point nine seven eleven. Christ Church next best at

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Speaker 2: zero point six seven oh one for you, taro A

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Speaker 2: up half a percent nine hundred and thirty, Wellington up

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Speaker 2: zero point four. There's some life I like that seven

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Speaker 2: seventy eight. Auckland but flat zero point one bit over

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Speaker 2: a mill one point zero four million in Auckland. Very

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Speaker 2: good numbers outside the main centers, though, wang and one

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Speaker 2: point two percent for the month five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: one is what you pay on average in Icargo at

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Speaker 2: one point one. Gizmon up at zero point nine. It's

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Speaker 2: called it almost one percent. Queen's down a bit flat,

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Speaker 2: mind you, when you're paying a million five on average,

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Speaker 2: the growth is not exponential. The only place is to

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Speaker 2: see a small drop. By the way, wrote a Rua

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Speaker 2: and New Plumouth. Don't you worry once the LMNG thing

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Speaker 2: arrives a it'll be boon times, be boom times with

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Speaker 2: the wand the lean light. Now, so the exports are good.

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Speaker 2: We're still running a deficit, which I don't like. Got

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Speaker 2: to pay you away in the world and we're still

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Speaker 2: not doing that. But the exports are doing the heavy

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Speaker 2: lifting at the moment, you got your meat, your tourism.

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Speaker 2: Tourism's back. I think that's probably the best news story

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Speaker 2: of the week in a consistency terms and terms of

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Speaker 2: data on what we're getting by way of a vibe,

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Speaker 2: Tourism seems to be back at last. Anyway, exports for

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Speaker 2: the last quarter of last year are produced some very

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Speaker 2: very solid numbers, so we'll look forward to presenting those

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Speaker 2: to you. So, Brian Roche, Public Services Commissioner, we're still

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Speaker 2: got this headache with the primary teachers. David Kirk is

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Speaker 2: coming in to see us this morning to talk a

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Speaker 2: bit about the rugby and Andrew Webster. Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: our year, so he will be giving us the warrior's

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Speaker 2: word as well.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: Mike the Mic asking breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities,

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Speaker 1: Life your Way, News, togs Head be falling.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. Are more data this morning that confirms

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy is building a head of steam

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Speaker 2: as the recovery takes whole. New export number show we

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Speaker 2: pulled than almost thirty billion twenty nine point two billion

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Speaker 2: for the December quarter, which is up two point two billion.

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Speaker 2: There is up ten, tourism up nine and a half,

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Speaker 2: meet up twenty one and a half. Two way trades

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Speaker 2: also reached a new high that's at sixty one point two.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Riches, the Business New Zealand, Boston is with us. Catherine,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Would you expect Q one to be better? Still? Have

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Speaker 2: we got to move on here?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 11: I hope the trend continues today's yesterday's news was certainly

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Speaker 11: good for exporters and the local economy. And it just

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Speaker 11: shows when the global demand for food strong, New Zealand

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Speaker 11: export numbers move quickly, so very positive.

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Speaker 2: What is the supply demand curve? Have we got more

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Speaker 2: to sell of the world wants it?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 11: Depending on who you speak to, exporters will tell you

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Speaker 11: that we make enough to feed around forty to fifty

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Speaker 11: million people. So when that's the number, you want to

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Speaker 11: make sure that when you're selling your products around the globe,

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Speaker 11: you get the highest value possible. And that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 11: We're seeing a globe bump to meat and that is

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Speaker 11: because there's a currently a global shortage of red meat,

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Speaker 11: particularly lean meat, lean beef into the States for their hamburgers,

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Speaker 11: and also a bump and dairy prices.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the diversification we talk of around things like tariffs

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Speaker 2: and a moving global landscape, Are we moving? Are we shifting?

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Speaker 2: Are we as agile as the trade minister would make

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Speaker 2: us out to be?

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Speaker 11: Yes? I think, I mean certainly, over the last couple

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Speaker 11: of decades, exporters have worked extremely hard to diversify. And

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Speaker 11: what we found post the President Trump tariffs was that

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Speaker 11: it was just another impetus again for exporters to say, well,

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Speaker 11: where can we move our products so we can drive

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Speaker 11: the highest value. And that's what we're seeing in these

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Speaker 11: latest numbers, a greater value, a small bump in volume,

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Speaker 11: but mostly it's getting higher prices, which is good.

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Speaker 2: This protein story I'm reading about this global Suddenly the

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Speaker 2: world seems to have woken up to the value of protein.

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Speaker 2: Is that real and is it on going? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it is?

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Speaker 11: A real trend. But then it's always been part of

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Speaker 11: an a vital part of the human diet, and we're

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Speaker 11: still seeing that trend where the rising middle class, the

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Speaker 11: moment they get more money and have a higher income,

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Speaker 11: they want a better diet. And that's why New zealand

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Speaker 11: exports of dairy and meat are so important and why

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Speaker 11: over a period of time we're getting more popular.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I was saying just before the news.

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Speaker 2: My sense of this tourism thing. I've been critical about

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Speaker 2: tourism because it's not back to where COVID was, but

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Speaker 2: it seems to have turned in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: These numbers coming through tourism seems to have a fission.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 11: Certainly it's in a recovery phase. We get around three

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Speaker 11: and a half million tourists per year, and I think

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Speaker 11: when you're walking around Auckland and Wellington, I'd say mostlessness

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Speaker 11: would think that there's a sense of breath above. You

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Speaker 11: can feel it.

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Speaker 2: One percent.

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Speaker 11: We're still not back to twenty nineteen, but over time,

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Speaker 11: and certainly with New Zealand's currency, we're a good value

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Speaker 11: place to come visit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very nice way of saying our dollars

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Speaker 2: in the toilet and it helps. But thank you, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Business New Zealand CEO Catherine rich ten minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven passpeaking money. What is it about the Primary

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Speaker 2: Teachers Union that seemingly everyone else in the public service

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Speaker 2: can sign off a deal but they can't. Union now

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Speaker 2: wants facilitated bargaining. Trouble for the actual teachers is the

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Speaker 2: longer this goes, the more backpay they miss out on.

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Speaker 2: Currently they're not getting seventy six dollars a week. So

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Speaker 2: Brian Roach as the Public Service Commissioner, of course and

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Speaker 2: is back with us, a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Good morning liight.

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Speaker 2: Is the treaty still an issue for them.

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Speaker 21: That seems to have dropped away?

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Speaker 22: Are we?

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Speaker 21: But you know I've written to them a number of

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Speaker 21: times reminding them that we are here to deal with

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Speaker 21: terms and conditions. I remain really committed to that, and

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Speaker 21: I'm deeply frustrated and somewhat being boarded that holding out

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Speaker 21: for something that we're not going to I should deliver the.

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Speaker 2: Do the teachers know what they're being offered at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Did they seen them?

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Speaker 21: They weren't offered by their union our last office to them,

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Speaker 21: which I find really disappointing. What would the downside be

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Speaker 21: of giving somebody the choice? The last time they were

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Speaker 21: asked was prior to Christmas. We didn't get a year's vote,

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Speaker 21: but we don't know what the percentage of that vote was.

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Speaker 2: So how do you know that anybody's told it? How

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Speaker 2: does that?

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Speaker 23: See?

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Speaker 2: I'm not a unionist, never have been. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how this works. So on my behalf as a teacher.

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Speaker 2: The union goes away and does whatever they do with you,

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Speaker 2: and they may or may not come back to me

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Speaker 2: and tell me what's going on. Is that how that works?

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Speaker 22: Correct?

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Speaker 21: They may or may not, and they may endorse, and

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Speaker 21: they may not endorse. So it's a really great question,

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Speaker 21: is you know, where is the value proposition that they're

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Speaker 21: adding here? Because we feel very strongly that teachers have

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Speaker 21: been deprived of cash in their hand every month by

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Speaker 21: the last union. All the others seem to have found

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Speaker 21: a way through, but they seem to find that very difficult.

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Speaker 2: So whose interests are they looking after that? If they

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Speaker 2: don't go back to the people who employ them, whose

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Speaker 2: interests are they looking up?

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Speaker 21: That's a very open question. I mean, they work very

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Speaker 21: hard for their union members, there's no question about that,

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Speaker 21: and provide a range of services. But on this particular issue,

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Speaker 21: I find it deeply frustrating that our offers are not

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Speaker 21: being put directly to their.

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Speaker 2: Members and you can't do anything about that.

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Speaker 21: Presumably I can't without breaking sort of the law, as

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Speaker 21: I've been told, But I am actively thinking about how

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Speaker 21: we deal with people who are not in the unions.

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you going to do about that? What

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Speaker 2: can you do about that?

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Speaker 21: Well, that's a bit I'm working through. It just seems

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Speaker 21: unfair that those who are not union members are not

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Speaker 21: able to access this offer. So over the next week,

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Speaker 21: I'm working through how I reached the equipment. I think

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Speaker 21: there's about eight thousand people who are not in the union.

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Speaker 2: In your gut. If you went directly to teachers and

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Speaker 2: said here's what's on the table, did you one realize

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Speaker 2: that and be what do you reckon about it? What

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Speaker 2: do you think they would say?

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Speaker 21: I think the majority would say, we've given an affair shot,

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Speaker 21: this is as far as we can go in this

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Speaker 21: bargaining round.

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Speaker 24: Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Don't they see that? With the evidence so far, I

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Speaker 2: mean pretty much, everyone's got two and a percent this year,

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Speaker 2: two percent next year. It's all worked out roughly the same,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it? Within a margin?

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Speaker 15: It has?

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Speaker 21: And you know we have been incredibly consistent right through

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Speaker 21: this process. We've never misled them. We've remained very strong

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Speaker 21: on a messaging that other unions have seen that this

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Speaker 21: union hasn't. I'm at a losses to understand why.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll stay in touch and come back to

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Speaker 2: you soon. Sabrian Roach, a Public Service commissioner, were you

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Speaker 2: aware of that? If you're a teacher listening to that,

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Speaker 2: were you aware of that? Is that how the unions

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Speaker 2: play games in this country? Warning from the SIS have

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Speaker 2: a BONDI more shortly fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The high Asking Breakfast Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B David Kirk, Rugby union chairman, with as shortly and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster rapt seventeen past seven. So we find out

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Speaker 2: this morning that our SIS has concluded the BONDI attack

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Speaker 2: in Australia could happen. They call it low capability terror.

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Speaker 2: It's the sort of incident we need to be prepared for.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Hampton is the Director General of the sis, and

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Speaker 2: as with thes Andrew, morning to you, Hi, Mike. Taking

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Speaker 2: nothing away from your undoubted expertise, this is hardly rocket science.

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Speaker 2: Is that if you're just looking for one nutter who's

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Speaker 2: been a bit radicalized and get his hands on a gun,

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Speaker 2: there's your trouble, isn't it.

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Speaker 23: Well, us and police are aware of a small number

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Speaker 23: of people who we know have the intent and could

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Speaker 23: easily get the capability to undertake an attack here. Similarly,

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Speaker 23: we know that there's a lot of people, particularly young people,

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Speaker 23: engaging in violent extremist narratives online, and then you factor

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Speaker 23: in the deteriorating global situation, and all those factors mean

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Speaker 23: that we see another attack here as a realistic possibility.

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Speaker 23: It's likely to be an individual who's acting alone, radicalized

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Speaker 23: online users readily available capabilities like a knife or or

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Speaker 23: a car, maybe a gone if they can get hold

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Speaker 23: of it. I think one of the notable things is

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Speaker 23: there's no single ideology dominating. So yet we have white extremists,

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Speaker 23: we have people inspired by ISIS and al Quaeda. We

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Speaker 23: have people who see violence as a way to achieve

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Speaker 23: some political outcome. But we're also seen and this is

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Speaker 23: concerning young people who are just really shopping around between

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Speaker 23: different ideologies online and maybe the thing that's driving it

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Speaker 23: is just a fixation with violence.

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Speaker 2: Can you spot them a mile away?

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Speaker 23: And the democracy like ours, we're not all seen and

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Speaker 23: all known in us in place in my colleagues at GCSP,

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Speaker 23: we're doing the best we can to locate these people,

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Speaker 23: but the fact is it is likely that someone in

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Speaker 23: the public will spot the signs of radicalization before we do,

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Speaker 23: and so we've produced a pretty i think, practical set

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Speaker 23: of guidance. It's on line and you can we circulated

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Speaker 23: to teachers and things around what are the signs of radicalization?

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Speaker 23: And you know, this is based on twenty years of

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Speaker 23: being in this business of investigations and much of it

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Speaker 23: is about people engaging with that violent content online, but

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Speaker 23: there's there's other other indicators as well, you know, people

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Speaker 23: who may be adopting, you know, sort of an odd

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Speaker 23: security approach or doing doing research into you know, particular capabilities,

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Speaker 23: that type of thing. So we really encourage people to

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Speaker 23: just spot those signs and let us or police know

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Speaker 23: if they see someone who seems to be on that pathway.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing earlier, but it's an amazing that you should

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Speaker 2: read that, you should see the text feed into the

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Speaker 2: show every morning. I mean, you know, most people have

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Speaker 2: got a brain. But I can tell you what there

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Speaker 2: in my forty five years in this industry, the world

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Speaker 2: has changed in a dramatic way.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, we're seeing increased polarization in society across the board. Obviously,

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Speaker 23: lots of US and them narratives. People with a sense

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Speaker 23: of grievance and and then look online for others who

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Speaker 23: may share that view, and the riskers grievance can move

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Speaker 23: to seeing violence as the answer pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Andrew, nice to talk to you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Hampton, who's the DG of the SIAS Edmunds v

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Speaker 2: We save for their dream futures while helping first time

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00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: buyers have course into those dream homes. Kiwi's helping kiwis

877
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: So that's got to ring about it and we like that.

878
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: So if you've got grand dreams to invest in the future,

879
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: could be purchasing a holiday home, helping the kids through

880
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: a UNI, saving for a comfortable retire you've got to

881
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: choose the bank investing in New Zealand's future. So whatever

882
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: you're saving for SBS Bank, they've got a whole range

883
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: of investment options to help you get great returns on

884
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: your savings. And if you want to learn more than

885
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you about the latest special rates you want

886
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Speaker 2: to start banking with heart search SBS Bank.

887
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: Pasky eleven twenty four.

888
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: So is it one all? The PM dug himself a

889
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: hole over Iran. Barbara Edmonds dug herself a hole in

890
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: the Herald as far as holes go. I regard the

891
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Luxe and Hole as slightly less problematic, given the war

892
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: is not in our direct purview and there is nothing

893
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: we can do about it, but it does display the

894
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: ongoing issue the Prime Minister appears to have with many

895
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: New Zealanders. He doesn't look like he's confident. He doesn't

896
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: tell it like it is in a world where people

897
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: who do tell it like it is generally succeed. He's

898
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: still playing mister nice guy and getting trapped by a

899
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: media pack you love. The smell of blood Edmunds is

900
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: a real worry. Is Nice so nice? She told us

901
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: quite openly, getting a surplus isn't happening anytime soon, and

902
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a clue how to pay for the

903
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: most expensive promise they've made, which is restoring pay equity.

904
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Now you can argue around the dual mandate for the

905
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, but that's wants. Territory dollars and cents are real,

906
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: and it's our back pocket that's going to be affected

907
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: in paying for all of this. A sad outworking of

908
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: MMP i've observed is we have an increasing number of

909
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: inexperienced players in the game. Basically, they don't know how

910
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: to run the joint Luxon knows business, which ties in

911
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: with the economy, which is why things are starting to

912
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: turn for us. This government has done a decent job

913
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: on that, but he's an amateur on foreign policy. You

914
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: only had to listen to Winston Peters yesterday on this

915
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: program to know that people who have been there, done that,

916
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: have seen the world change, therefore can explain it. And

917
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: he doesn't take crap from Junius, which is what too

918
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: much of the press gallery is made up of these days.

919
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: The nuance and sophistication of reporting is largely gone and

920
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: replaced by clickbaits and Luxeon, being too nice a guy

921
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: and too inexperienced in certain areas, walks right into it. Barbara,

922
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: on the other hand, is entitled to have views, of course,

923
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: but this is why Labour won't win the election. She

924
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: has clearly learned nothing from watching robertson Torch the place,

925
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: and because that was only three years ago, the memories

926
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: in the voter's minds still very sharp. So in a

927
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Gun's at Dawn, lucks and wins because foreign policy jibbajebber

928
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: isn't as serious is economic sabotage and incompetence, but neither

929
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: should have become the issue. They have pasking very good

930
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: day for New Zealand real estate as of tomorrow, March sixth,

931
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: that is when the foreigners start to come back and

932
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: they're not going to flood in. So if you're against

933
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: the policy, if you're Winston Peters ESK, can your view

934
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: of loosening up the real estate market a little bit

935
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 2: to some very wealthy people who want to, oh goodness sake,

936
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, bring their money, bring their expertise, bring

937
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: their vision into the country, grow the place. Employees, some

938
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: play employees, some people start some businesses, grow some businesses,

939
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, all that annoying stuff that we don't want

940
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: any of anyway. So as of tomorrow, the foreigners are

941
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: going to be able to buy the houses worth in

942
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: excess of five million dollars. So so far, five hundred

943
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: and ninety people from thirty three countries have applied for

944
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the residency under the new AIP visa program. So basically

945
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: you put in five or ten depending on who you

946
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: are and what you want. Million that is. But the

947
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: problem is we're short of the flash houses. These are people,

948
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: so the five million barrier most of US aren't buying

949
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: a five million dollar house. Therefore it's not going to

950
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: affect the ruin the state market in any way, shape

951
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: and form, So all the xenophobes can pop back into

952
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: their box. But what these people are looking for are

953
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: homes in excess of twenty million, and outside of Auckland

954
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: and Queenstown there are none. And even in Auckland and

955
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: Queenstown there are very few. There are I am reading

956
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: yesterday not enough super flash houses in this country. So

957
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: it's a supply demand issue. But as of tomorrow we

958
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: welcome them in with open arms. News is next a

959
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: news talk said.

960
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: Credible Convelic. The breakfast show, You confess it's the Mic

961
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrow of a Sport SV the Ultimate

962
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: Performance SUV News Togs eDV Andrew.

963
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: Webster Afterwright for the Warriors tomorrow night. This does, of course,

964
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from a so did the rugby.

965
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of sport, at least one of the jobs that

966
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: the Union's been filled now Dave Rennie's you Knew All

967
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: Blacks coach. Rennie's first test is the July series. We've

968
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: got France, Italy in Ireland. David Kirk is the Rugby

969
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: chair and he is with us. Very good mornington, we'll

970
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: see the Were you spoiled for choice between the two?

971
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: It was to all you needed.

972
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 25: Yes, you know you'd always liked more in principle, but

973
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 25: when you've got two very high candidates, very high quality

974
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 25: candidates like Jamie and Dave, we certainly both were absolutely

975
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 25: appointable and we're delighted that.

976
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 16: To have appointed Dave.

977
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: How close close you know.

978
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 25: The panel, a very high quality panel, spent two hours

979
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 25: discussing the merits of the two candidates. We're very rigorous

980
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 25: and analytical and going through the strengths and relative weaknesses

981
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 25: of the candidates. And you know, we concluded quite firmly

982
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 25: and certainly unanimously that Dave was the person that we

983
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 25: wanted to appoint. But Jamie's got real qualities.

984
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: What was the book? Just worp here? So I'm a

985
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: rugby fan, but I'm not in the weeds like you

986
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: guys are. So you look at as chiefs Record, you

987
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: look at Australia, you look at Japan. Is that material?

988
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: Does an year it count more or less?

989
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a good question.

990
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 25: You do look at Record, but you look as much

991
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 25: as you look at the record of the performance of

992
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 25: the teams and the actual results of the teams.

993
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 16: You look at the environment that they built and the.

994
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 25: Capability they've developed in the team, the capability to go

995
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 25: to the next level. For instance, in Australia, they didn't

996
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 25: have actually great no numbers on that, but the momentum

997
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 25: that was in that team as they went into the

998
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 25: World Cup year was pretty powerful. They had lost two

999
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 25: of the strongest teams in the world, France and Ireland,

1000
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 25: in the last minutes of a northern tour when they

1001
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 25: were pretty staffed. So I think, you know, it was

1002
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 25: clear to me that that team was really building for

1003
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 25: the World Cup.

1004
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: That's a vibe thing, though, isn't it. See I chat

1005
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: gpt'ed Renny and I see it is Reny a good

1006
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: coach and chat GBT came back with its conclusion was

1007
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: no based on results, and that is true. You have

1008
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: to say, if you look at Australia, he wasn't particularly successful,

1009
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: but you're vibing him and that's a risk, isn't it.

1010
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 16: Anything's at risk?

1011
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 25: You know that, But you know it's the other thing

1012
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 25: that you that we did in the interview, which is

1013
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 25: very clear was talk to them about how they build

1014
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 25: cultures and environments. In the end, the coach doesn't run

1015
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 25: on the field and play the game. Coach doesn't kick

1016
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 25: the winning goal. It's all about developing a team that

1017
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 25: can take accountability, knows how to play the game, is

1018
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 25: very clear about what it takes to win modern rugby,

1019
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 25: and has the right leadership in the right understanding of

1020
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 25: what they've got to do and is able to execute.

1021
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 25: And that comes down to and that comes down to

1022
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 25: environment and the clear understanding of the game plan or

1023
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 25: the game model.

1024
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: So explain then, because no one, no one understood it.

1025
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: You know, no one had a better vibe than Razor

1026
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: for example, did he? I mean he was. People died

1027
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: for him, and yet it didn't work. Why It's very

1028
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: hard to say.

1029
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 25: I mean, you sometimes there's just you know, different environments

1030
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 25: don't bring out the best in people. And you know,

1031
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 25: I think he's a great coach, he's a he's a

1032
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 25: very fine coach, and but but you're right, it wasn't

1033
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 25: really working for that team. And if you know, you

1034
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 25: compare the Crusader's environment to the all Black environment, it

1035
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 25: is very different. It's a much more complex environment. And

1036
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 25: you are traveling and training all the time. You've got

1037
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 25: more people and more things to deal with. But you know,

1038
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 25: i'd have to say, I don't really know.

1039
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to relitigate it. But but is that

1040
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: on you guys then, because if somebody saw something in

1041
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: rays that could be elevated, you allegedly were wrong. Is

1042
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: that on you guys?

1043
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 21: Well?

1044
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 16: I think you never know until afterwards.

1045
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 25: And I mean I'm not one for looking back instad

1046
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 25: of blaming people and saying, oh you should have known this,

1047
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 25: I should have known that when you know the actually

1048
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 25: that information wasn't available. We hadn't had the experience to understand,

1049
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 25: you know, how what responses would be and how how

1050
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 25: the you know, the group would perform. So I think

1051
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 25: it's not great. It's not really sensible to look back

1052
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 25: too much. And and and you want to be could

1053
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 25: have been sure?

1054
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Why well, as much as we would like to text,

1055
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: and you know what New Zealand's like on rugby and

1056
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: coaches and stuff like that. So so one text this morning.

1057
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to ask it, but I am. Now,

1058
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: can you get David Kirk to confirm that it wasn't

1059
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: the North Island players who picked on Razor. See that's

1060
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: that I mean. I wouldn't answer because it's a it's

1061
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: a it's a silly question. I know the answer, but

1062
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: that's how New Zealand is.

1063
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 25: And I'm actually very pleased that you'd asked that question

1064
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 25: because sorry, this is an opportunity for me to to

1065
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 25: be very definitive. It was not the North Island players,

1066
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 25: not by any means. The decision to change the coach

1067
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 25: was not taken by the players. That the decision to

1068
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 25: change the coach was taken by the Board of New

1069
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 25: Zealand Rugby. That's the accountability that we have. And we

1070
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 25: talked to a whole range of people and there was

1071
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 25: virtually no difference between which island you came from, no

1072
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 25: difference between what your ethnicity was. There was actually no

1073
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 25: difference between when you're a old player and the unplayer.

1074
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 25: The trends and the themes were very consistent across.

1075
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: Which just opposes with Renny because I know, reading in

1076
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: the Australian media yesterday, a lot of Australians think very

1077
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: well of them still, so that speaks to his character

1078
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: And that was part of your equation, wasn't it.

1079
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 25: That's absolutely right and that's the same with all all

1080
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 25: black coaches and players. Character accounts for a great deal.

1081
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 25: When the heaters on characters, what comes.

1082
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: Out explain to me. Within the union, there's a lot

1083
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: of people leaving why.

1084
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 25: I think there's a combination of things. I think it's

1085
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 25: the affluction of time. As we say, people have just

1086
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 25: been in jobs for quite extended periods of time. I

1087
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 25: don't think there's anyone leaving because they feel disgruntled and

1088
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 25: the business is not hitting in the right direction. But

1089
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Speaker 25: I think for some people, you when you start. I

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00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 25: mean Chris Lendrum, for instance, he's been the head of

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00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 25: high Performance for over twenty years. I think it is

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00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 25: and he just feels a bit wrung out, a bit

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00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 25: ready for his next challenge, but ready for a break.

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Speaker 16: We are changing.

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00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 25: He's been part of helping us design it, but we

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00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 25: are changing the way in which we work with high Performance.

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Speaker 25: It's just the time is right. And I think that

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00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 25: it's sort of a bit of an unsatisfactory answer. I know,

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Speaker 25: but for a lot of people, you know, the time

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Speaker 25: is right.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. We had program yesterday is

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Speaker 2: after the Baltimore Ravens. I mean to be honest, I'd

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Speaker 2: leave you for the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 25: I mean, he's a great guy, and it's great that

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00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 25: he's got such a lovely it's such a great career opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Were delighted that that's a dream come true. Conditioning, I

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00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: would have thought, are you dysfunctional as a business?

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Speaker 16: No, not at all, not even slightly.

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00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: Well, people want me to ask these questions. It seems.

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't know whether I'm more interested in all blacks

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00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: or the business side of the equation because I follow sport,

1112
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: and sport globally is fantastically successful. Yeah right, I would

1113
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: argue the rugby union at the moment isn't that successful.

1114
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: You know, bottom line, it's not that successful. It could

1115
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: be more successful. I'm just trying to work out whether

1116
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: it's you guys, or whether it's the sport of rugby

1117
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: that isn't as big as it could be globally connect

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Speaker 2: to other sports.

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Speaker 25: Let's wait and see before until our results come out.

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Speaker 25: Before we tell you got good results, I'm not saying

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Speaker 25: anything about the results because, as you know, having interviewed

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Speaker 25: many business people over the years, they can't speculate on

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00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 25: their results before they're out there. But you know, we're

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00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 25: not trying to as an operating business running the whole

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Speaker 25: of New Zealand Rugby end up with a big surplus

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00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 25: every year. We have a lot of reserves as it is.

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00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 25: We'd sold future net revenue in order to put money

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Speaker 25: into the balance sheet in order to invest it in

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Speaker 25: a growth strategy. So the aim for the organization, the

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Speaker 25: board and the management is to run a kind of

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00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 25: break even business and operating we're not losing money, we're

1132
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Speaker 25: not going backwards because of operating performance, but we're also

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 25: there's no need for us to try and accumulate more reserves.

1134
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 25: What we need, what we need to do is continue

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 25: to invest in the game. And I think you'll find

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00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 25: the game's pretty well fund at the moment and actually

1137
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 25: doing pretty well. Prevential Union.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry the Baltimore game? Do you worry that?

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00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I know why you're doing it. If you

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00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: can if you can land in an American city and

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00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: sell out fifty six thousand and do a lot of

1142
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: pr and have boat and shake a lot of hands,

1143
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: this is good for the bottom line. That's fantastic. But

1144
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 2: you know that's the all blacks away for another game.

1145
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: Do you worry that it's not about New Zealand anymore

1146
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: as much as it once was.

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Speaker 25: I do it, but I think the all blacks have

1148
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 25: to rugby in general, and the top teams obviously are

1149
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 25: the most important ones. All Blacks and black fans have

1150
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 25: to find ways of continuing to really engage with the

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Speaker 25: New Zealand public and engage with the young people. And

1152
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 25: there is a financial I would say necessity, but you know,

1153
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 25: draw to play more games internationally and a lot more

1154
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 25: money from them well, competing to keep our players in

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Speaker 25: New Zealand and to keep our coaches in New Zealand

1156
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 25: and keep the game properly invested in with some big

1157
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Speaker 25: countries with lots of people and lots of money around

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Speaker 25: the world.

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Speaker 2: You chair a lot of stuff. Where does the rugby

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00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: union sit for you? In terms of just enjoyment, It.

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Speaker 25: Probably says at either end the the the it's some

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00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 25: of the most enjoyable things that I do, and sometimes

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00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 25: it's some of the I wouldn't say it's unenjoyable, but

1164
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 25: it's time consuming and sapping training. It's just the time, really,

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Speaker 25: And there's a lot of people that pull me in

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 25: a lot of directions in rugby. But I get a

1167
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Speaker 25: real kick out of the out of the environment. I mean,

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Speaker 25: it's funnily enough. It's it's not so much the high

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Speaker 25: performance environment which I've been in as a player and

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Speaker 25: and around subsequent it's actually the community game. When I

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Speaker 25: see when I go into smaller club rooms, a smaller

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00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 25: unions and see people giving their time for nothing and

1173
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 25: the love of the game and the enjoyment they get

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Speaker 25: talking to me and to other players and things. It

1175
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Speaker 25: just it's really inspiring.

1176
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, Nice to see

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Speaker 2: David Kirk. It is thirteen to eight.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News talks.

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Speaker 2: At be great interview, Mike quality, individual, honest, sophisticated answers.

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Speaker 9: Year.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to underest make the brain power that's

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Speaker 2: driving that, Kirk, that is not me, Kirk verious, you

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Speaker 2: might articulate great in view. Can we have the same

1185
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: from New Zealand Football. Yeah. I'm eternally fascinated by the

1186
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: way sport is run globally and in this country, and

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: being a sports administrator is hard working. We've seen some

1188
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Speaker 2: interesting stories of not casualties of that lately, Mike, listening

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Speaker 2: to this interview has not given me much confidence going

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: forward for the All Blacks. Sounds like more of the same,

1191
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: no clear answers to failure of the past, and said, well,

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Speaker 2: when you say, Cliff, when you say failure, it depends

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Speaker 2: on what you're looking at. I mean he very art

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: You may not agree, but he very articulated, very clearly

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: articulated the Renny decision. And wired is it's the person

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Speaker 2: they've hired, not the results, because the results aren't that

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Speaker 2: good from the Australian point of view. But having said that,

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Speaker 2: Kwaid Cooper said yesterday, shout out to Rennie after the

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Speaker 2: way he was treated by our administration in Australia, to

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Speaker 2: now find himself with arguably the biggest job in rugby

1201
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: feels like a bit of karma. We let one of

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Speaker 2: the best coaches in the game go. Not only did

1203
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: we let him go, we pushed him out the door.

1204
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: Congrats to the All Blacks for appointing not just a

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: top coach, but a good man who understands that the

1206
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: game is about people first. And then we come to

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Speaker 2: the business of housing. Interesting insight in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments. More texts and all trade me just quickly

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: hit me this success fee. They're dropping the success fee

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Speaker 2: this morning. I don't do trade me. I'm not on

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Speaker 2: trade me. I'm not interested in trade me. I've never

1212
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: bought her anything, sold anything on trade me. But they're

1213
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Speaker 2: dropping the six spee Is that a thing? Neitherweight?

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks,

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Speaker 1: there'd be let.

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Speaker 2: Me come back to trade me, Mike, why would you

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: use trade me? Marketplace has no listing success fee? But

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Speaker 2: that's where all the gangs are, isn't it aren't the

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: gangs on the marketplace. All the dodgy people are in

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Speaker 2: the marketplace, as far as I know, That's what my

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00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: kids tell me. Carolyn Levet's just been giving us a

1222
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Speaker 2: brief end quote. We expect to have complete and total

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Speaker 2: dominance over Iranian airspace in the coming hours, clearing the

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: skies for our quote brave warriors to continue achieving. They're

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00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: called Kurds. The CIA has been arming them for months,

1226
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: so that's where the ground game is going to start

1227
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: achieving these noble and long sought objectives. She's calling it

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: so far resounding success. Trump launched she explains strikes on

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Speaker 2: Iran quote based off a good feeling that the Iranian

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Speaker 2: regime was planning to attack the US. So their four

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: main points are as follows, destroy the Iranian regimes ballistic

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Speaker 2: missile program, annihilate the naval presence in the region. Seems

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00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: to have been successful. That part dismantle Iran's terrorist proxies,

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00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: which responsible for attacks on the US coalition forces. That's,

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Speaker 2: of course, where Lebanon, Hezbla, et cetera, and the Israelis

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Speaker 2: come in prevent Iran from further pursuing a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: It would appear to me, Hickseth and I said eight weeks.

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't know he would know more than us, of course,

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: but if you look at as blunt as it sounds,

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00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: you look at the toll, and the toll is unbelievably

1241
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: one sided at this particular point in time, and the

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00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: Allies are losing very little, and the Iranians are losing

1243
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: a lot, both in people and displacement and basically in infrastructure.

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: And so it seems to be that they've worked this out,

1245
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: and I'm just waiting. The key here is going to

1246
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: be when do the Kurds get the go ahead to

1247
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: start turning over the government. I don't know there's any

1248
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: surrender coming Harmony's son's bin for what it counts appointed

1249
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: but you presumably have a very specific picture in mind

1250
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Speaker 2: as to what needs to happen within Iran before the

1251
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Kurds the go ahead to take control. If that happens

1252
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: in the next day or so, that's to my mind

1253
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: a very good indication as to how well things from

1254
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: the American point of view, or the Israeli point of

1255
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: view or both is going. Warriors, this is our year.

1256
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: So Andrew Webster will fill in the details after the

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: news which is next.

1258
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Speaker 1: To flas and only twice asking the questions others won't

1259
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

1260
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news talks had been.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past eight, so here we go. The

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Speaker 2: Warriors are back. This is our year, twenty twenty six.

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Styles tomorrow the opener against the Roosters. Lupe Metcalf to

1264
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Murray Martin still out, MITC Barnett is there, but of

1265
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: course going coach. Andrew Webster's back with this morning Morning

1266
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Speaker 2: to you. Andrew. You into the season with what level

1267
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: of optimism twenty.

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00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 24: I'm laughing because I did. Like every year, I've got optimism.

1269
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 24: I'm an optimistic person, and yeah I'm excited. If we

1270
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 24: improve on last year and we stay healthy, I think

1271
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 24: we can definitely improve in the competition.

1272
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: Let's stay healthy thing, I mean, is there anything a coach,

1273
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 2: any organization can do about things that you just can't

1274
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: see happening or coming well, Like a lot of clubs.

1275
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Speaker 24: Put a lot of time and effort and resources into

1276
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 24: preventing injuries, and we do that. We're very good at it.

1277
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 24: Also a lot of time in once the player returns,

1278
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 24: putting a lot of effort in that doesn't reoccur in

1279
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 24: the same injury, particularly around soft tissue, but broken bones, acls,

1280
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 24: big ones like that. The only thing you could stop

1281
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 24: them from her themselves is put them in the guards

1282
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 24: and don't let them out. But the big thing you

1283
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 24: can do.

1284
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 18: To have.

1285
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 24: A successful years have real depth in your squad, which

1286
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 24: in certain positions, I certainly think we've got.

1287
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: The preseason, what we've seen, What have you got out

1288
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: of it? Know you're happy, Yeah, we're fit.

1289
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Speaker 22: And well.

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Speaker 24: I think every year probably said that, but the boys

1291
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 24: took it upon themselves this year. They definitely came came

1292
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,479
Speaker 24: back from their breaks fitter. We obviously send them away.

1293
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 24: They have strong player union represent representation, so they get

1294
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 24: good time off, but they came back in a real

1295
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 24: professional standard and they're fit and ready to go, So

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 24: that's that's good. I'm definitely I'm definitely happy. The thing

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01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 24: I compare it to previous pre seasons and I think

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01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 24: it's certainly one of the better ones.

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Speaker 22: We're not.

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Speaker 24: The thing I'd say is we're not completely healthy is

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Speaker 24: in we've got some players to return early rounds, but

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Speaker 24: we pride ourselves on next man up. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 24: completely comfortable where we are. But until you get punished

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Speaker 24: in the face round one, which we experienced last year

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Speaker 24: in Vegas, you kind of don't know where you're at.

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Speaker 2: And what do you make of the draw? I mean,

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Speaker 2: does the draw matter?

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Speaker 12: Is?

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 24: I think there's I think there's different things that can

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Speaker 24: event be an advantage, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 24: Like I don't put time or energy wasting. I don't

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Speaker 24: get an opportunity to control it myself as the head coach.

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Speaker 24: So we go on the road in New Zealand twice,

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Speaker 24: which is awesome, go to Wellington and christ Church, which

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Speaker 24: we expand our network outside of Auckland, which is awesome.

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Speaker 24: I haven't gotten in too much detail if you looked

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Speaker 24: at last years a top eight team, how often we play.

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Speaker 24: I just worry about the first block of games and

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Speaker 24: it's a tough run. But if we want to be successful,

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Speaker 24: going to have to beat those teams.

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Speaker 2: Those that you've signed off season, are they settled, they

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Speaker 2: look good? You feel good about them?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: There are are, definitely, There are all different stages of

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Speaker 24: their career. Hayes knowledge is a young guy who's you know,

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Speaker 24: on his way up. He's got a basketball background, he's

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Speaker 24: learning the game. He's come to us really professional state.

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Speaker 24: He isn't debut yet, but he's progressing well. Morgan gann

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Speaker 24: and he's come from the UK. He's played a lot

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Speaker 24: of football for a young guy, but he obviously hasn't

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 24: played in NROL and I think he's done a really

1333
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 24: good job to get close to round one and to

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Speaker 24: see where he's at. And we'll know that in the

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 24: next sort of a week or so. So yeah, really

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Speaker 24: happy there. And Lofi Camperera like he's he's done an

1337
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 24: exceptional job to fit in as a person. He shows

1338
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 24: his how athletic and how fast he is. But yeah,

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01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 24: they've all done a good job at different stages of

1340
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 24: the development. I mean, Lofty's played a lot of first

1341
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 24: rate but Roger, him and Dallan have finding it out

1342
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Speaker 24: for round one.

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Speaker 2: All right, now listen, I need to ask you about,

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Speaker 2: of course, the much Barnet's elephant in the room. More

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Speaker 2: on the moment, stand By Andrew Webster with US eleven

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Speaker 2: Past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast on iheartradiow it by

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Speaker 2: Be Newstocks every fourteen minutes past eight guests. Andrew Webster

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Speaker 2: a hit of tomorrow Night's opening for the Warriors. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Now Mitch Bunnett, did that for you? Come out of

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: nowhere or not?

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Speaker 24: I felt like, but Mitch and I have opened dialogue

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 24: all the time. We have a really good relationship. Obviously

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Speaker 24: he's the captain. We've been through a fair journey together

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Speaker 24: since twenty twenty three, and he could tell that he

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 24: was obviously going through a lot and it didn't shock

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01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 24: me in the end because I felt like he was

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Speaker 24: just over time. Him and I were discussing it and

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 24: was what needed to happen for him and his family,

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 24: and we supported that, so it wasn't like a shock

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 24: thing in the last week that this is what's going

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 24: to happen. I hoped for big periods of time that

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 24: he could stay, but in the end I knew. I

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 24: knew that it definitely needed to happen, and I supported it.

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Speaker 2: And you've got no doubt in your mind that a

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: guy who's leaving is still good for the season. Mentally,

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Speaker 2: not every.

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Speaker 24: Person, but with Mitch Barnett, I've got no doubt. He's

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Speaker 24: our captain. He plays origin. He cares so much about

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Speaker 24: this place to the point where I think the decision

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01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 24: was so hard for him. If he didn't care, he

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 24: would have come to it that decision easily. And I

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 24: think people are going to have to trust myself that

1375
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 24: I've been a part of this conversation for a while

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 24: with him, and I just know much how much he cares.

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Speaker 24: So if anything, I think it could galvanize us for

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Speaker 24: this season. And I think, if you know, Mitch is

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Speaker 24: the guy that wants to repay people, He really cares

1380
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Speaker 24: about people showing him loyalty. So I think the way

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Speaker 24: he will repay that this year and is the way

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Speaker 24: he plays on the field.

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Speaker 2: Listen, just broader questions on league. I'm reading a lot

1384
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: at the moment about Landy's and the broadcasting deal that

1385
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: may or may not happen soon Vegas, all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Rugby league seems to be as hot as

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Speaker 2: it gets. I mean, is that how it feels to you?

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Speaker 24: It is, mate, it really is. Like honestly, it's in

1389
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 24: the in the twilight of it, of its time that

1390
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 24: I can remember probably hit the laid eighties of the team,

1391
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 24: the turner and things like that. I've been moments when

1392
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 24: the Warriors came in. That was a cool time for

1393
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 24: rugby league. But honestly, as a as a game across

1394
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 24: both countries Australia and New Zealand, it couldn't be going better.

1395
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 24: And the NRL is so huge, I mean, they put

1396
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 24: a lot of time into the product, like around the

1397
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 24: ball and play what does the what does the fan

1398
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 24: get in the green stne what does the fan get home?

1399
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Speaker 24: At television level? And they're done an amazing job, honestly,

1400
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 24: the players, the NRL, it's a great product and it's

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 24: it's absolutely flying at the moment.

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: And also more broadly speaking, yeah, the g and Carlos

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01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: thing at the Phoenix the other day. When you look

1404
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: at a thing like that, how much is on the

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: coach at the end.

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Speaker 24: Of the day, where it's our job to be responsible

1407
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 24: for the outcome. Now, I think a lot of fans

1408
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 24: can say, I can say, well, you're not out there playing,

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 24: and you know it's not up to a year ago

1410
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 24: out there. The players have got to take responsibility at

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Speaker 24: some stage, and I definitely agree with that, but it's

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Speaker 24: our job to get the best out of it, and

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Speaker 24: the buck stops of us and then the day and

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Speaker 24: that's why they hire and fire coaches because it's hard

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Speaker 24: to replace the whole team. Now, I think in every situation,

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 24: it's obviously should be measured in its own right. Is

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Speaker 24: it the right roster? Did that coach inherit that you know?

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Speaker 24: I mean, is he trying to change things? Often this

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01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 24: pain before success? So I think you've got to look

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Speaker 24: at it at an individual basis. And I don't know

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Speaker 24: enough about the A League, if I'm being brutally honest,

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 24: and I don't know enough about that situation that you mentioned.

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Speaker 24: I just know the scoreline. But he obviously felt like

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 24: someone else neanded to take him in addition direction and

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 24: that's fair.

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Speaker 2: So stop me if I'm getting ahead of myself of

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Speaker 2: the season. Aren't you ready? Top eight, top four, final two?

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Speaker 24: Well, we're shooting for all of it, or shooting for

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Speaker 24: the highest point we can. When I talk about it

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Speaker 24: on a weekly basis, our goal every years to win

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Speaker 24: the camp. Is it easy though, Like we don't think

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Speaker 24: it is. We're not taking that for granted, but you've

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Speaker 24: got to believe in yourselves. If it wasn't realistic, I'd

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Speaker 24: be very disappointed. You asked me what I thought of

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Speaker 24: the way where we are and then my optimistic about

1436
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 24: the season. Yeah, I am. We've got a great bunch

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Speaker 24: of guys, got a lot of beliefs in them, got

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Speaker 24: a great staff. It's a great club. But we're really

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Speaker 24: going to have to improve and.

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Speaker 2: I think we can good stuff. All right, mate, Go well,

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: we'll catch up during the season. Andrew Webster, coach of

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. And yes, indeed we believe that. It is

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Speaker 2: Health asking Mike Webster has just got me wanting to

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Speaker 2: make the next tackle, He inspires, What an excellent text

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Speaker 2: he's got me wanting to make the next tackle? I reckon,

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Speaker 2: that's excellent, an excellent way of putting it. Geez, Webby's

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Speaker 2: a calm, level headed bloke, isn't he. I like Wibby.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I've had a very good morning in that sense.

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Speaker 2: I like David Kirk and I like Wibby. So I've

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Speaker 2: had two people that I like on the program. I

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Speaker 2: like the others. I mean, you know, of Andrew Hampton's

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Speaker 2: listening from the sis, if they're sitting around the office

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Speaker 2: having a cup of tea and some ginger nuts and

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Speaker 2: they're going, oh, quint God on the show this morning

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Speaker 2: with Mike Andrew. Yeah, I liked all of them as well.

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: Catherine Rich was nice. I mean, Kelli Ekold, who doesn't

1485
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Speaker 2: love Cali E Cole? But I mean I've got to

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Speaker 2: I just can't love everybody, you know, I'm not one

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Speaker 2: of those people you can't love everybody. You got to

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Speaker 2: rank people, and my favorite people today are Webster and Kirk.

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Speaker 2: Morning Mike asked the coach if they worked on Dellon's defense.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 2: Is that you Sam? No one bangs on about Sam's

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Speaker 2: weak point. Where he gets really boring is when he

1492
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: bangs on about Delan Zelesniak and his lack of defense.

1493
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm hearing none of it, but he's still.

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Speaker 26: An ear worry about Dellan to leave. Ask him about

1495
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 26: Dellan's defense. He's useless, Mike. You asked David Kirk, is

1496
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 26: that the business of rugby or just rugby? I work

1497
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 26: at a private school here in Hamilton, and we had

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Speaker 26: the all Blacks come through.

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Speaker 2: What was strong. What was a strong rugby school is

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Speaker 2: now down to two teams. Parent abuse on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: Dad's living through their kids, complaining to staff, mum's worried

1502
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: about concussions. The unions have forgotten about the grassroots rugby.

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: Sports like basketball, have now captured the youth. Rugby is dying.

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: Is a dying colonial sport. That's not true at your level.

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01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, and I get what you're saying,

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: and in part you are right, but rugby is not

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Speaker 2: a dying sport and the All Blacks are not a

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: dying bread and if you just go internationally and the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks are still revered. The dad thing's interesting. I

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: was watching Drive to Survive last night and they focused

1511
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: what's good about this season if you haven't seen Drive

1512
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 2: to Survive is it follows the teams. Each episode is

1513
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: about that teams or a team or two teams. And

1514
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 2: the one I watched last night was featuring Mercedes in general,

1515
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 2: Antonelli specifically, and his dad, like so many cases, have

1516
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: been instrumental in their upbringing, and they looked to in

1517
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: depth at Antonelli the pressure that was on him. If

1518
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: you remember the season last season, he struggled early on,

1519
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: he crashed the car. He's a prodigious talent and nobody

1520
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: disagrees with that. No one has gone within a million

1521
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: miles of him, doesn't agree that he is a generational talent.

1522
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: But the elevation to F one was a lot for him,

1523
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: and he struggled at times. And there's a lovely scene

1524
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: with his dad. They started in go karting together, very

1525
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: similar to Hamilton and his dad, ironically, and they started

1526
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: in karting together, and Kemy's back at the track and

1527
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: his dad gives them watch it and gives them some

1528
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: lovely advice about the pressure. And so it was. I

1529
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: don't know whether he's living through his son or not,

1530
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: or whether that because he was a racer as well,

1531
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: but it was a nice piece of advice, Mike. I've

1532
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: got a high value home for sale agents indicator would

1533
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: be perfectly suitable for the foreign buyer under the impending rules.

1534
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: Expect to have at least ten offers in the next

1535
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. One thing our agent indicated is that

1536
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: these foreign buyers will not be able to buy auction

1537
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: marketed properties. In most cases, they will need to make

1538
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: a conditional offer that will allow them time to cover

1539
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: off all legal processes. I'm let me come back to

1540
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: that in a moment, because you raised an interesting point.

1541
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: I one didn't know that, but two, I didn't know

1542
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: that because I don't think that it's true. And I'll

1543
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: work you through why in just a couple of moments.

1544
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Then we'll head to Rot and Starmer's Problem with Iran.

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities, Life,

1546
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: your Way News talks, he had been well.

1547
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: It really has been quite the spectacle in the last

1548
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: couple of days that he was not for help. Once again,

1549
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,879
Speaker 2: the Chagos Islands become a debating point. Macron has apparently

1550
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: decided that Trump's incursion epic fury is illegal. Censious says

1551
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: it's illegal, but Starmer's I mean, God knows where Starmer's been.

1552
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 7: British jets are shooting down drones and missiles to protect

1553
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 7: American lives in the Middle East on our joint basis.

1554
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 7: That is the special relationship in action, sharing intelligence every

1555
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 7: day to keep our people safe.

1556
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 15: That is the special.

1557
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 7: Relationship in action. Hanging on to present Trump's latest words

1558
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 7: is not the.

1559
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: Special relationship international correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace

1560
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

1561
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 22: Rather good morning to you, good balling to you, mate.

1562
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: He is no Winston Churchill. I think Trump had that

1563
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: right in.

1564
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 22: Me except absolutely right. And I think nothing has defined

1565
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 22: Starmar's premiership more than this, which is U turn, U

1566
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 22: turn and robotic rebuttals of what he is accused of.

1567
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 22: So at first he refused to let the USA use

1568
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 22: basis to bomb Iran, and then he considered to allow

1569
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 22: them to do it, and then said it was nothing

1570
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 22: to do with offensive action. Copped a whole load of

1571
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 22: appalling abuse from America, including comments from Trump, and is

1572
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 22: now saying this is a special relationship. It's difficult for

1573
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 22: Starmer because this is the one area where he was successful,

1574
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 22: which was treading, yeah, which was treading that line between

1575
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 22: you know, keeping Trump on side and staying sane, and

1576
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 22: that's gone exactly. That has gone.

1577
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: So when he went to Washington, he took the letter

1578
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: of the invite from the King, any massage the ego

1579
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: brilliantly and that's and that is quite right. And so

1580
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: suddenly there was this special relationship and Trump had a

1581
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: great time at the palace and all that sort of stuff.

1582
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, what we've learned from Trump is you're

1583
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: either on his side permanently or you're the enemy.

1584
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 22: Yes, that's right, and Trump may be a bully and

1585
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 22: he may be a thug whatever, but nonetheless that was

1586
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 22: part of Britain's policy, which was to stay on his side.

1587
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 22: And we're now on his side. But down the list

1588
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 22: we're probably between Shibouti and Laus.

1589
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: Did anybody, I mean, given what Sanchiez has said, Macrons

1590
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: backed him up when Starmer talked about well, I didn't

1591
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: want to go to war or be involved with this

1592
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 2: if I wasn't convinced of the legality. In being convinced

1593
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: of the legality, who convinced him? Or is that just

1594
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: just flash talk for a U two.

1595
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 22: It's just strashal for a U turn. The truth is,

1596
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 22: you know, Iran a's sponsor of terrorism against England, against

1597
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 22: the UK, against the USA, against Saudi Irania, against Israel,

1598
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 22: and has continued to do so for years now. That

1599
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 22: may not constitute, as far as the unit is concerned,

1600
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 22: a private fess evidence to go to war, but in

1601
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 22: the real world it kind of does. And it's certainly

1602
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 22: a lot more convincing than the evidence we had in

1603
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 22: two thousand and three when Labor went to war against Iraq.

1604
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 22: So I don't think that the great problem I have

1605
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 22: with all this is not maybly that it's incompetent, but

1606
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 22: that it's in moral. You know, there is no moral

1607
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 22: basis to the stances taking no.

1608
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: Exactly, mind you, We've talked about that before and lack

1609
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: of I don't know the name is that joany Re

1610
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: Johnny read the Scottish MP who's husband.

1611
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, that's the way you pronounced it, I believe,

1612
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 22: Yeah right, So she.

1613
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: Is she a major as I mean this partner of

1614
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: hers that's apparently been rounded up as a spy for China.

1615
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: What's the outfall of this one?

1616
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 22: No one has heard of the woman. She's a Scottish

1617
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 22: labor Redpeajny Reid, and her houseband has been arrested as

1618
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 22: part of this spying ring investigation by the police about

1619
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 22: people who are spying for China A big deal. You

1620
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 22: might think I have one or two doubts about it all.

1621
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 22: But nonetheless, I'll tell you, Mike, when you hear a

1622
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 22: statement like this from Joe Johny Reid talking about her

1623
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 22: spouse dayy Tail that has been arrested, Neither I nor

1624
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 22: my children are part of this investigation, and we should

1625
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 22: not be treated by media organizations as though we are.

1626
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 22: Above all, I expect media organizations to respect my children's privacy.

1627
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 22: It makes me hate her, what I mean. I was

1628
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 22: had some sympathy because I have my doubts about this

1629
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 22: confected sort of fury about China, But as soon as

1630
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 22: I read that, I thought, nah, bang to rights.

1631
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 2: By the way, since we last talked just briefly. Rachel

1632
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: gave her update on the coming spring document and announced

1633
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 2: that there were no more Texas and she had some

1634
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: growth forecasts. The growth forecast I looked out to twenty

1635
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight. None of them seemed very good.

1636
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: Did she sell it to a point that people would

1637
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: go I think things were a little bit bit clearly

1638
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: she's onto something or things as bad as I suspect

1639
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 2: they are economically.

1640
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 22: I think underneath since were as bad as you suspect

1641
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 22: they are. But I think that on the surface there

1642
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 22: is but a scout change. And I think you see

1643
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 22: that in the bi election results. You see in the

1644
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 22: figures which talk about immigration lowered massively over the last year.

1645
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 22: There is a change of tone in this country away

1646
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 22: from the people who loathe labor and reform and actually

1647
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 22: tilting further left. I don't think Rachel Reeves has endeared

1648
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 22: herself to the country, but she may not have harmed

1649
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 22: labours standing much more with this spring budget.

1650
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: What's it? This rabies things? How is this possible? What's

1651
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: going on here?

1652
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 22: It's rabies? Mike?

1653
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 15: What the hell?

1654
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: What the hell?

1655
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 22: Just thought it used to this stuff? No, it's a

1656
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 22: poor British or believe on Ford who was scratched by

1657
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 22: a dob in Morocco and no one knew what was

1658
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 22: wrong with her. She got worse and worse and worse

1659
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 22: and eventually died. It's just a reminder it's the first

1660
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 22: death from rabies in this country god knows how many years,

1661
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 22: and a reminder that other countries still have rabis around.

1662
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 22: I tell it, Do you guys have it?

1663
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 13: No?

1664
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 2: Well, not not that I checked with lately.

1665
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 16: No.

1666
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 22: Well you haven't got any mammals.

1667
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 15: Well that's the other nine.

1668
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're moderately isolated. But there's a there's a

1669
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: bee that comes here periodically and we get a bit

1670
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: of exercise. I can't remember what the bee is or

1671
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: the bug or some something, but apart from that, I

1672
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: think we're okay.

1673
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 13: Rod.

1674
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 22: Anyway, listen, you're across the stories the.

1675
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: Hundred percent on. Your mate knows to talk to you. Rod,

1676
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 2: Little out of Britain, sprnning brew Dog, by the way,

1677
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: which have you ever been to Britain? You know about

1678
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: brew Dog. They ran into tremendous amounts of trouble. They

1679
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: looked like they were going under. They've been saved to

1680
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: a degree, but not everyone's been saved. They bought the company,

1681
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: bought the tilray, bought the brewing operations, bought the brand,

1682
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: bought eleven pubs thirty three million pounds, but they preserved

1683
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirty three jobs. But four hundred and

1684
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 2: eighty four jobs and thirty eight bars have not been saved.

1685
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,560
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1686
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,200
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1687
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: Mike, surely we should be. This goes back to let

1688
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: me do this one first. Actually, the high value home

1689
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: and the suggestion that you couldn't buy it action. I

1690
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: get that you couldn't buy it action based on the

1691
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: fact that auction means you've got to have the cash,

1692
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: you're ready to go. It's sold, and of course if

1693
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: you've got to do some paperwork the overseas investment offers.

1694
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 2: I get that part. My understanding is those laws change that.

1695
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: So in other words, if you're a foreigner and you're

1696
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: looking at a house and you can pay six point

1697
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: seven million dollars for the house, then that's it. You

1698
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: can go buy any house you want. Also, it's not

1699
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: a major in the sense that if you're selling a

1700
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: house of that value. Taking it to auctions risky because

1701
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: how many people in the market at any given time

1702
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: are into you ten plus million dollar houses aren't not many. Therefore,

1703
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: an auction is probably not the best way to go

1704
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: about it. Therefore, if you are looking to sell to

1705
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: a foreigner and a foreigner is in the market, you'll

1706
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: do a deal, you know, with a bit of paperwork,

1707
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: and you don't need to go to auction. So I

1708
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: don't see that as a particular impedant. I just hope

1709
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: it works when people come to the country and I

1710
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: feel welcome. Mike, surely we should be incentivizing these wealthy

1711
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: Golden Visa people to build houses where we are. Jeremy,

1712
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: You've only got to go to tari Tt in the

1713
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 2: north of Auckland, the golf course there, the Rick Caine establishment.

1714
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there are people in there. I mean you've

1715
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: got to see this houses. I mean the amount of

1716
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: money that's spent in that particular part of the world

1717
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: by a lot of Americans. You know, monstrous houses, tens

1718
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars worth house Queens Sounds the other one.

1719
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, spend some time looking around Queens Sound. The

1720
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: amount of real estate that's going on there in a

1721
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: fairly expansive sort of way, is extraordinary, and most of

1722
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Speaker 2: it's beautiful too. Trade me go back to trade me.

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01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: I raise it very briefly. I'm I'm sort of I'm

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: no expert on this. I don't deal in trade me

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. But they're removing announced

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01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: this morning they've removed their success fees or removing their

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01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 2: success fees. Our members have told us second hand selling

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: on trade mee marketplace has become too costly and it's

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: time to bid goodbye to success fees. Now if you

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: believe that, which of course you don't, because that's a

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01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: pr press release, it's a pile of pop. That same

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01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: thing applies to everything I'm expecting press releases from in

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01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: New Zealand, all the power companies and all the insurance

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01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: companies tomorrow. Our members have told us that dot dot

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: dot fillin our power charges are too high. So as

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01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: a result, we're getting rid of them. I mean, come

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01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 2: on later in the press release. In order to maintain

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01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: the trust trade me is known for, we will also

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01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: be introducing a service fee. So if you pay a

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: service fee, you feel more trust. Is that how that works?

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01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 2: Or does trade me trust you more or you trust

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01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: trade me more simply by giving them more money. So

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01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: with one hand they give and with one hand they

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01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: take it away. Nine minutes away from nine the Mike.

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01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of a Sport, sv use, TOMSENV.

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Speaker 2: Champion's Days, Back of You and Racing Tab wants to

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: help get people in on the section. So for those

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01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 2: not yet with the TAB, we've got a straightforward way

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01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 2: to make that happen. You joined today and the TB

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01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: is going to match the first deposit up to fifty

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01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: bucks in bonus cash. So if someone puts in fifty,

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: they have one hundred all of a sudden to go

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: punt properly. And there's a little bit more to it

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: with TB race refund. If a punterbacks a horse to

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: win Race one at Elderslie and it misses, TAB will

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01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: refund up to twenty five and bonus cash. That's a

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: second shot right out of the gate. So it's about

1758
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: giving yourself a decent crack on the big day of racing,

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: So make sure you download the TOB app, get your

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01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: bet on for Champions Day maximum bonus twenty five bucks.

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: First fix odds win bet only one per account. Terms

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01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: and conditions apply R eighteen bet responsibly asking how interesting.

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01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: Guess what Quantus announced yesterday? They've quietly rolled out a

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01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: new in flight safety video that ditches its previous emphasis

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01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: on global destinations and diversity. I wonder if this is

1766
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: a trend. It is much shorter, it is more direct presentation.

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: It's going to be rolled out initially on the seven

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: three sevens four minutes long. Previous video from twenty twenty

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01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: four began with an indigenous crew member speaking about her

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01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: magic place in the Northern Territory. What airline does this

1771
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: remind you of? And then they toured through Quantus staff

1772
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: members in customers' favorite places around the world. That particular

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: video lasted for nine and a half minutes. One can

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01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: only hope that there are some people in the aviation

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01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: industry listening to that five minutes away from nine.

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01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

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01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: Round, so exciting. Apple's back for some more. They had

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01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: a good week. We've got four new colors. This is

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01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: the MacBook Neo. Mac Book Neo launched a couple of

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01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: hours ago. Now it comes in the cool colors. I'll

1781
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: come back to the colors. That's the price. That's the

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01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: headline grabber. Eleven forty nine, even less if you're a

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: student or a teacher. If you're one of those, it's

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01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 2: just nine to seventy nine.

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01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 9: To make it.

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 12: We reimagined how to build a laptop from the ground up,

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01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 12: and we use the most recycled material veny Apple product.

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01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 12: We even color coordinated. It's keyboard and feet because you

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01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 12: know details. MacBook Neo was powered by a eighteen from

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01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 12: so it weeks fast and launches apps quickly.

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01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 2: So it's secondhand essentially. It's what is, isn't it Just

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01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: they've built a secondhand piece of junk. The chip is

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01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 2: the same one used in the iPhone from twenty twenty four.

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: They do that in the car industry. They use old tech.

1795
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: And you wonder why nothing happens that fast. That's because

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01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: it's old stuff. So so far as week, we've got

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01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: the iPhone seventeen. Now you've got the new iPad Air,

1798
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: got the new MacBook Air, got the new MacBook pros,

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01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: got the monitors. So Neo under a grand and'side the colors.

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01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Let me come back to the colors. You can get

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01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: a pink yellow blue. So, but the new ones are silver.

1802
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: If it's a GT silver like a Porsche GT silver.

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01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: If you've seen the GT silver on a Porsche, that's

1804
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: worth getting because that's beautiful. That's an uplifting color. Comes

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01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: and blush in citrus. What is citrus? Is that yellow

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: or orange? No, it's yellow. See I see I think

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 2: of orange, a rich orange citrus.

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01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 15: Lemon's are citrus fruit too?

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so's orange. Grapefruit is citrus fruit, and so's mandarin.

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: I got red grapefruit. Don't outfruit me, mate, Indigo.

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 15: Nobody could outfruit you.

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01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 2: That's that's what they say. Apparently indigo. There's another color

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: that that all that's sick. That's blue. Yeah, that's sick.

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01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: It's like got some old plastic, got an old chip,

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01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: made a computer.

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01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 26: Max a Mac and an under one thousand dollars Mac

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 26: is a very appealing Mac.

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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