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Speaker 1: The story that's making headlines around the world for all

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Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. Police investigating up to four hundred people

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Speaker 1: are being urgently contacted after lollies containing potentially lethal doses

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Speaker 1: of methan fhetamine were sent out in food parcels by

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Speaker 1: the Auckland City Mission. It is an absolute nightmare for them.

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Speaker 1: Glenn Dobson's with the Drug Detection Agency, He's the CEO.

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Speaker 1: They do workplace drug testing. Glenn, good morning, Yeah, good morning, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: This is really worrying. Have you ever seen anything like

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Speaker 1: this before, meth and lollies?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at us worrying. A lot of the criminal

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Speaker 2: gangs that smuggle drugs will use different techniques to try

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Speaker 2: and get mes across the border. That it's often suspended

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Speaker 2: in liquids and it can often be in pill form

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Speaker 2: as well, disguised as lollies. It's not unknown, but it's

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Speaker 2: not overly common.

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Speaker 1: It's just the tip. Could it be the tip of

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Speaker 1: the iceberg? Given how much myth is being imported. I

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Speaker 1: looked up that it's about almost two in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two of meth that was caught coming into New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: and then you think about that it'd be a fraction

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Speaker 1: of what's what's actually coming in, and it's obviously coming

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Speaker 1: in all different forms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's through a charge of the authorities. I

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Speaker 2: guess is they know what they're catching, they don't know

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Speaker 2: what they're not getting. They don't know what's getting across

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Speaker 2: the border and not being detected to the OSBERG. Potentially

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Speaker 2: it is. You know, we often attend intentional conferences around

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Speaker 2: drugs and drugs smuggling in the States. Now they're starting

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Speaker 2: to see more what they call meth conversion labs, or

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Speaker 2: converting myth from liquid or solid form back into its

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Speaker 2: original form. See more of those labs than they actually

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Speaker 2: baking or cooking labs these days.

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Speaker 1: Because that we used to have meth labs didn't when

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Speaker 1: you'd hear about them blowing up and stuff and there'd

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Speaker 1: be raids. You don't hear so much about them anymore.

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Speaker 1: So they're conversion labs. That sounds frightening.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I look. The conversion labs really are to

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Speaker 2: get the lab from its form of a suspended in

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Speaker 2: liquid or if it's an a pill form back to

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Speaker 2: a usual mess that they can then sell on the streets.

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Speaker 2: And they use that through different are using different effort,

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Speaker 2: efforts and chemical techniques to be able to get the

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Speaker 2: mess back to its normal form.

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Speaker 1: Where does it come from?

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Speaker 2: Internationally, it comes from all over the place. Mexico is

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Speaker 2: a big supply of methamphetaming. Also it comes from North

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Speaker 2: America through Mexico, China and anywhere where a lad can

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Speaker 2: be created and at large scale to make the mess.

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Speaker 2: It will certainly make its way to New Zealand because

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Speaker 2: we as a country, we like meth and we pay

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Speaker 2: a decent amount on the global market.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely we do. Glenn, Thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Glenn Dobson with the Drug Detection Agency.

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