WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 251: Reviewing the WT20 Final 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:15.173 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 0:00:15.333 --> 0:00:19.213 iHeartRadio and. 0:00:19.893 --> 0:00:23.773 Take another power helping get in. It's entering, it is out, 0:00:24.093 --> 0:00:28.933 the test is over, Good to smooth, O fous a 0:00:29.013 --> 0:00:31.333 beauty is out here. 0:00:31.133 --> 0:00:33.613 He goes This delivery has in the music. 0:00:33.413 --> 0:00:39.333 Devolved on the Front Foot with Brian Ronnell and Jeremy 0:00:39.333 --> 0:00:43.853 Coney powered by News Talks dead B at iHeart Radio. 0:00:45.333 --> 0:00:48.293 Another world title slipped from the black Cats grass, but 0:00:48.693 --> 0:00:51.573 notice gray in coming seconds on the Front Foot. This 0:00:51.653 --> 0:00:55.253 week goes back over the World T twenty with Masterstroke 0:00:55.453 --> 0:00:59.893 by Razine helping you master your decorating projects. A world 0:00:59.973 --> 0:01:03.173 first in our domestic game, the first player in the 0:01:03.253 --> 0:01:06.533 long history of all first class creers to take five 0:01:06.573 --> 0:01:11.053 writes in five bore and in fact six in eight. 0:01:11.573 --> 0:01:15.133 It's the total of seven to twelve better than just once. 0:01:15.813 --> 0:01:19.573 Something special. Had a chance to reflect on two significant 0:01:19.573 --> 0:01:23.293 achievements in the women's game, but it's back to the 0:01:23.413 --> 0:01:28.813 review of the World T twenty, beaten in the final 0:01:29.373 --> 0:01:31.893 by an Indian side who are now going to have 0:01:31.933 --> 0:01:35.693 to withstand social media because there's a lot of people 0:01:35.853 --> 0:01:39.613 getting at them about the quality of bats they're using, 0:01:40.293 --> 0:01:44.733 jasprick bloomber chucks, and just about everything is being thrown 0:01:44.773 --> 0:01:48.533 at them because of the poor losers. What Eric and Jerry, 0:01:50.093 --> 0:01:52.933 they deserve to win that game. New Zealand had a 0:01:53.013 --> 0:01:57.373 chance by winning a toss, but they just didn't bowl 0:01:57.373 --> 0:01:58.293 well enough to they. 0:01:59.013 --> 0:02:04.853 No, that's probably fair. It was pretty comprehensive win for India, 0:02:04.893 --> 0:02:07.293 wasn't it. The power play kind has summed it up. 0:02:07.813 --> 0:02:11.493 Ninety or something like that without loss for India and 0:02:11.533 --> 0:02:13.773 forty five for three or so for New Zealand. 0:02:13.853 --> 0:02:15.293 So half the runs and about a. 0:02:15.253 --> 0:02:18.333 Third of the wickets. So yeah, New Zealand bob poorly. 0:02:19.093 --> 0:02:22.213 Nothing kind of seemed to work, did it? Pace off, 0:02:22.213 --> 0:02:25.133 it was hit, Then they went short and that was hit. 0:02:25.573 --> 0:02:27.693 Then they went wide hole and that was either a 0:02:27.773 --> 0:02:33.733 wide or a hit. Nineteen fours and eighteen six's. I mean, 0:02:34.853 --> 0:02:37.173 you know in India also got that extra over with 0:02:37.253 --> 0:02:42.253 the wides, didn't they. So yeah, two fifty five just 0:02:42.413 --> 0:02:45.373 wags on you. You know, the way you got to play. 0:02:46.053 --> 0:02:49.333 I mean you can't even see off the power player 0:02:49.653 --> 0:02:54.093 after your two down and get say eight or nine 0:02:54.133 --> 0:02:57.173 and over up until the ninth or the tenths and 0:02:57.213 --> 0:03:00.973 so you've still got some of your batting resources to 0:03:01.013 --> 0:03:06.373 go for the last eleven overs in your innings. Yeah, 0:03:06.613 --> 0:03:08.293 I mean even if you go at eight or nine 0:03:08.413 --> 0:03:11.653 and over, that's if it's nine, it's eighty one, that 0:03:11.733 --> 0:03:13.933 still leaves you one hundred and seventy five to get. 0:03:13.973 --> 0:03:17.573 So you still in the next eleven overs needs sixteen 0:03:17.653 --> 0:03:21.533 runs and over, or if it's eight it then you 0:03:21.613 --> 0:03:25.213 need sixteen points seven runs. So it kind of rules 0:03:25.213 --> 0:03:27.933 that out and you just got to keep going and 0:03:27.973 --> 0:03:29.893 don't forget. If you've got eleven ods, two of those 0:03:29.933 --> 0:03:32.213 overs are going to be from boomer, aren't they. So 0:03:33.573 --> 0:03:36.853 you have to keep going. And simply their bowlers had 0:03:36.893 --> 0:03:37.853 more skill than ours. 0:03:38.693 --> 0:03:40.293 Yeah, and they played the conditions. 0:03:40.333 --> 0:03:42.533 They had the crowd behind them, they had everything going 0:03:42.533 --> 0:03:44.453 their way, and of course they'd scored two hundred and 0:03:44.453 --> 0:03:51.053 fifty previously and defended that against England. So Peter Holland, 0:03:51.053 --> 0:03:55.413 who's back with this and been enjoying the World T twenty. 0:03:56.333 --> 0:03:56.813 It was. 0:03:57.213 --> 0:04:00.293 It was a performance that deserved them the title. And 0:04:00.813 --> 0:04:05.293 New Zealand really can come away with some credit, can't they. 0:04:06.173 --> 0:04:09.093 I think that's basically when the script didn't it was 0:04:09.133 --> 0:04:10.573 how it was supposed to be. It was how it 0:04:10.613 --> 0:04:12.893 was planned from the outset, as. 0:04:12.693 --> 0:04:13.213 We all do. 0:04:15.933 --> 0:04:22.613 If you're talking about the way the tournament was organized 0:04:22.693 --> 0:04:27.493 and the pictures and the grounds and that, are you okay, Well. 0:04:28.373 --> 0:04:30.933 Maybe that's been a little bit sort of our tongue 0:04:30.933 --> 0:04:32.933 in cheekish a bit, but it did rather go to 0:04:32.973 --> 0:04:36.493 script and what we didn't have. And I recall the 0:04:36.573 --> 0:04:39.093 last time there was a significant one day at that 0:04:39.133 --> 0:04:41.613 same round, there was a certain player who took the 0:04:41.613 --> 0:04:44.533 game away from India, Travis Head. We didn't have one 0:04:44.573 --> 0:04:48.493 of those this time. We had one last last week 0:04:48.533 --> 0:04:52.093 against South Africa and that was that was a phenomenal performance. 0:04:52.613 --> 0:04:55.653 But you need one of those really. But as you say, Jerry, 0:04:55.653 --> 0:04:58.013 when you're staring down the barrel at two fifty glass, 0:04:59.013 --> 0:05:01.413 you can't make a mistake, you know, and things have 0:05:01.453 --> 0:05:05.013 got to go your way. Yeah, the half hit that 0:05:05.093 --> 0:05:07.533 just dropped through the middle, that sort of stuff, I 0:05:07.613 --> 0:05:11.093 must say, when what ching it the ball against? When 0:05:11.173 --> 0:05:13.613 in India were batting, the ball just kept whizzing out 0:05:13.613 --> 0:05:17.853 of the park. It was just as you said eighteen 0:05:17.933 --> 0:05:21.053 six is it just kept going and no matter what 0:05:21.093 --> 0:05:23.293 you did, as you said, whenever they try it went. 0:05:23.893 --> 0:05:28.453 There's one particular shot that I saw Karter hit and 0:05:28.613 --> 0:05:31.053 back in the olden days when you were playing Jerry, 0:05:31.213 --> 0:05:34.253 he couldn't hit them. Apparently this is a low full toss. Well, 0:05:34.253 --> 0:05:36.893 Henry by one of those, and he just literally wizzed 0:05:36.933 --> 0:05:40.253 it out of the park dead flat, six runs, Thanks 0:05:40.333 --> 0:05:42.573 very much. I mean that that's sort of to me 0:05:42.693 --> 0:05:44.013 something up. I thought it's their. 0:05:43.933 --> 0:05:48.573 Day, yeah, and they played accordingly. They fitted into the 0:05:48.653 --> 0:05:52.093 style of play. They're specialists at that. Some of those 0:05:52.093 --> 0:05:53.933 players will never see the light of day in the 0:05:53.973 --> 0:05:58.893 Test match arena. Some have, but they've got it down 0:05:58.933 --> 0:06:02.253 to an art. Question being posed, is anybody going to 0:06:02.333 --> 0:06:05.933 beat them? Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or 0:06:05.933 --> 0:06:08.253 not it's a tournament. 0:06:10.413 --> 0:06:13.933 Well South Africa did. Yeah, South Africa beat them and 0:06:14.013 --> 0:06:20.533 stuffed them. You know, so it is possible. Maybe maybe 0:06:20.573 --> 0:06:23.613 not on those kinds of surfaces where the ball does 0:06:23.653 --> 0:06:26.253 such a little. I mean, I've got to say that 0:06:26.293 --> 0:06:30.333 as far as their bowlings was concerned, I saw ash 0:06:30.373 --> 0:06:32.973 Deep and Pandia. Pandia went for twenty one off his 0:06:33.013 --> 0:06:36.773 first over, but the next three went for fourteen and 0:06:36.853 --> 0:06:40.533 so that was it. He came back pulled it back. 0:06:41.053 --> 0:06:44.813 But they both swing the ball, and they both swing 0:06:44.893 --> 0:06:51.413 the ball both ways. Now you know Aksha Patel. So 0:06:51.413 --> 0:06:55.053 so you've got two opening bowlers swinging the ball in 0:06:55.573 --> 0:07:00.453 or out. Now, none of our bowlers do that, and 0:07:00.493 --> 0:07:03.213 it's something we have to sort of look at to 0:07:03.493 --> 0:07:07.013 upskill ourselves just a bit too. Actua Patel came on 0:07:07.253 --> 0:07:11.693 very quick, skiddy, tight line delivered so that the ball 0:07:12.173 --> 0:07:14.533 comes off the smooth part of the ball and not 0:07:14.613 --> 0:07:17.653 the seam, so it skids at you and stays low. 0:07:18.173 --> 0:07:21.253 And our players tend to hang back against spin bowling, 0:07:21.693 --> 0:07:22.253 so it's. 0:07:22.213 --> 0:07:23.533 Hard to get underneath. 0:07:24.133 --> 0:07:27.053 And you know, then you have someone like Boomra bowling 0:07:27.093 --> 0:07:32.573 those deceptive slower deliveries right hitting the base of the stumps. 0:07:32.773 --> 0:07:35.653 He went for three point seventy five runs and over 0:07:36.493 --> 0:07:39.853 you know those that is skill. One of their our 0:07:39.933 --> 0:07:44.133 nineteen overs was bowled by abershek Heaven's sake anyway, So 0:07:44.293 --> 0:07:46.373 they just had a bit too much control. They had 0:07:46.373 --> 0:07:50.653 the big runs behind them and never never, the innings 0:07:50.693 --> 0:07:55.293 never got going, did it. We lost wickets third, fourth, fifth, eighth, ninths, 0:07:56.093 --> 0:07:58.093 so we were five down for eighty odd and the 0:07:58.173 --> 0:08:03.573 nineteen cent and was in you know, so we hit 0:08:03.253 --> 0:08:05.733 we were either trying to hit six's and got out 0:08:05.813 --> 0:08:13.493 Allen and Seifered and Mitchell, or we were deceived Ravendra, 0:08:15.093 --> 0:08:17.813 or there was pace on and quite wide Chapman dragging 0:08:17.853 --> 0:08:21.093 it back on or the reoccurring issue of Phillip's getting 0:08:21.093 --> 0:08:23.613 one passed in between Bat and padd He was bold 0:08:23.653 --> 0:08:28.013 a lot in this tournament. So New Zealand, I'm afraid 0:08:28.133 --> 0:08:31.333 played their final last week. It wasn't this game. It 0:08:31.373 --> 0:08:32.613 was just a game early. 0:08:34.013 --> 0:08:34.213 Yep. 0:08:34.533 --> 0:08:39.373 That's one of the things about that kind of competition too, 0:08:39.413 --> 0:08:42.773 isn't it that they have to live with that. But 0:08:43.253 --> 0:08:45.893 you know, they come home and they've done They've done 0:08:45.893 --> 0:08:50.293 an excellent job. To my mind, they were second and 0:08:50.573 --> 0:08:53.853 clearly second, and that's just something they have to live 0:08:53.893 --> 0:08:55.813 with it as a T twenty tournament and there's a 0:08:55.853 --> 0:08:57.653 whole a lot of luck goes with it, but when 0:08:57.693 --> 0:09:01.973 you're playing, as you say, most in Indian conditions, you're 0:09:02.013 --> 0:09:03.373 always up against it as well. 0:09:03.653 --> 0:09:08.253 I don't think enough can be said about Boomra the 0:09:08.453 --> 0:09:11.053 version of the game bit test bit one day. That 0:09:11.213 --> 0:09:14.933 player is quite freakish in what he can do. I 0:09:14.933 --> 0:09:17.933 think we just should celebrate that, sit back and watch because, 0:09:18.373 --> 0:09:22.013 as you say, Jerry, those deceptive slow ball yalk is 0:09:22.053 --> 0:09:26.293 that clearly are really hard to pick, and he bowls 0:09:26.293 --> 0:09:29.533 them with such control it's really impressive. The other thing 0:09:29.533 --> 0:09:32.773 that I think that where we lack as well as 0:09:32.893 --> 0:09:36.453 is that we don't have those deceptive spins like you 0:09:36.573 --> 0:09:40.653 call deeps and so on, who trouble you particularly in 0:09:40.733 --> 0:09:44.373 those conditions. We've got your orthodox soft spinner, you've got 0:09:44.373 --> 0:09:47.373 a left arm spinner. But that I'm a dosen for 0:09:47.413 --> 0:09:49.893 the for a lot of the players these days. You know, 0:09:49.933 --> 0:09:53.373 there's nothing there's nothing mysterious about what we bring to it. 0:09:53.533 --> 0:09:56.693 I mean we bring we bring vigor and discipline and 0:09:56.733 --> 0:10:00.453 so on. But against this sort of onslaught, if you like, 0:10:00.933 --> 0:10:04.413 you're really not You're struggling, aren't you. But that's said, 0:10:05.613 --> 0:10:08.893 if you lined all the teams up, I still don't 0:10:08.933 --> 0:10:11.813 think that we're the second best of that group. England 0:10:11.813 --> 0:10:14.653 probably played probably overall better than we to South Africa. 0:10:14.733 --> 0:10:17.813 Certainly on their form were better. It's actually to get 0:10:17.853 --> 0:10:23.173 where we got to should be considered them definite pass mark. 0:10:24.373 --> 0:10:27.773 We've been doing it consistently, haven't we reaching those finals 0:10:27.773 --> 0:10:32.493 and or reaching the last four getting a past mark, 0:10:32.573 --> 0:10:34.853 but not really being able to go the full distance. 0:10:35.813 --> 0:10:38.693 No, I think I think, you know, I think our 0:10:38.733 --> 0:10:41.053 bowl is I mean, our seam has kind of struggled 0:10:41.053 --> 0:10:44.893 a bit, didn't they, Henry apart, you know, ten wickets 0:10:44.893 --> 0:10:48.093 and eight innings an economy rate of eight and eight 0:10:48.093 --> 0:10:51.293 point twenty five. So you extrapolate that out, that's a 0:10:51.333 --> 0:10:54.613 total of one sixty five and that's a that's a 0:10:54.893 --> 0:10:56.213 very chasable target. 0:10:56.253 --> 0:10:57.853 I would have thought these days. 0:10:58.413 --> 0:11:01.493 So and one point twenty five wickets every innings, that's 0:11:01.533 --> 0:11:02.213 not too bad. 0:11:02.613 --> 0:11:04.053 But then you look at the others. 0:11:04.333 --> 0:11:08.773 Ferguson nine point nine seven, Jamison ten point two five, 0:11:08.853 --> 0:11:12.893 Nicheum ten point six y five, Duffy ten point eight seven. 0:11:13.173 --> 0:11:17.213 So that's all between between our other semens. That's between 0:11:17.213 --> 0:11:19.813 two a total of two hundred and two hundred and twenty. 0:11:20.613 --> 0:11:23.733 And that's that's starting to push the envelope a bit, 0:11:23.773 --> 0:11:28.893 isn't it. I feel so that Henry did his job, 0:11:29.933 --> 0:11:33.573 bowling in the power play, bowling at the death revender. 0:11:33.773 --> 0:11:36.533 Terms of spin stood up in the absence of Bracewell. 0:11:37.213 --> 0:11:40.933 Most wickets for New Zealand twelve wickets, seven point eight 0:11:41.013 --> 0:11:43.933 for the economy. Rate did really well in Sri Lanka, 0:11:43.973 --> 0:11:47.853 didn't he. That's one point seven wickets pir innings for him, 0:11:48.213 --> 0:11:50.613 and if he's extrapolate the runs out, it's one point 0:11:50.613 --> 0:11:54.653 fifty six. In fact, the spinners did slightly better than 0:11:54.653 --> 0:11:59.533 the seamers in those terms of run rates. Phillips at nine, 0:11:59.773 --> 0:12:04.213 mccontchie at the nine point five centnern is an interesting one, 0:12:04.293 --> 0:12:07.333 isn't it. Right from the start you felt that teams 0:12:07.373 --> 0:12:11.893 were sitting on them. They didn't want to lose wickets 0:12:12.653 --> 0:12:15.253 to Mitchell Satner, so they saw him as a threat 0:12:16.093 --> 0:12:21.373 and they played him more cautiously. Centiner twenty eight overs, 0:12:21.493 --> 0:12:23.453 just two wickets and. 0:12:23.893 --> 0:12:25.373 And seven innings. 0:12:25.733 --> 0:12:28.653 That's just seven fours and so point two of a 0:12:28.733 --> 0:12:31.533 wicket each game. But you get that run rate six 0:12:31.573 --> 0:12:34.893 points sixty one and that's a total of one hundred 0:12:34.893 --> 0:12:38.093 and thirty two if you if you push that out. 0:12:38.333 --> 0:12:40.813 So even though he didn't get the wickets, he did 0:12:40.813 --> 0:12:42.613 a job for New Zealand. 0:12:43.013 --> 0:12:44.813 Well, I don't think there's any question. I think that's 0:12:44.853 --> 0:12:47.333 that's that's spot on, Jack. I mean, if you keep 0:12:47.373 --> 0:12:48.813 if you at run rates, as you said, on an 0:12:48.813 --> 0:12:50.973 average of a round about six. I mean that's as 0:12:50.973 --> 0:12:54.893 good as getting wickets, isn't it. Yeah, that's the reality 0:12:54.893 --> 0:12:58.373 of it. And and as you say, you strapped light 0:12:58.413 --> 0:13:00.813 it out in that little termine what you're going to 0:13:00.893 --> 0:13:03.413 look like and what you're going to be chasing. He's 0:13:03.413 --> 0:13:07.613 a class act and across the board fields. I really 0:13:07.773 --> 0:13:08.813 like your style, Captain. 0:13:08.853 --> 0:13:09.293 See. 0:13:09.573 --> 0:13:11.093 I like to see more of it, not just in 0:13:11.133 --> 0:13:14.493 the one day as perhaps who knows, but no, and 0:13:14.493 --> 0:13:16.013 I think you're right here. They did sit on a 0:13:16.213 --> 0:13:19.693 bit because yeah, he was a threat. But I just 0:13:19.733 --> 0:13:22.973 think that bottombers, bottom liners. I think that we just 0:13:23.013 --> 0:13:27.773 got thumped and in those conditions we needed one which 0:13:27.853 --> 0:13:30.093 was which was doing it Travis Head for us, and 0:13:30.213 --> 0:13:32.453 that didn't happen today, it happened last week. 0:13:33.133 --> 0:13:33.413 Yeah. 0:13:33.453 --> 0:13:36.253 Well they've had that problem, I guess, have a period 0:13:36.293 --> 0:13:39.213 of time and you need one, two, three four to 0:13:39.213 --> 0:13:42.733 do it, not just one. It always seemed as though 0:13:42.813 --> 0:13:46.373 India had somebody who could get eighty off twenty one balls. 0:13:46.773 --> 0:13:51.173 But you know, it's NonStop for the black Caps. Now 0:13:51.533 --> 0:13:55.933 South Africa are almost here. They've picked aside well a 0:13:56.013 --> 0:13:58.973 women's side to play against South Africa and Tea twenties 0:13:58.973 --> 0:14:01.973 and New Zealand will have this when they get home. 0:14:02.013 --> 0:14:04.933 I presume just about home. It's been hard getting out 0:14:05.013 --> 0:14:08.453 of India. The West Indies had to wait over a 0:14:08.533 --> 0:14:10.533 week or something to get a flight out. No one 0:14:10.613 --> 0:14:13.453 bothered to think about getting them home, so they had 0:14:13.493 --> 0:14:15.733 to sit it. India England got a charter flight out 0:14:15.733 --> 0:14:18.213 and away they went. And there's been a lot of 0:14:19.093 --> 0:14:22.373 a lot of controversy around that. But are we destined 0:14:22.413 --> 0:14:25.413 to have to accept that this is what T twenty 0:14:25.493 --> 0:14:29.093 Championships are going to be like now? Ground announcements constantly, 0:14:29.533 --> 0:14:37.453 mid over lights, laser beams, Hollywood promotion and all sorts of. 0:14:39.453 --> 0:14:41.813 Gimmicks that are being part of the game. Do we 0:14:41.893 --> 0:14:43.053 have to put up? Is that the way it's going 0:14:43.093 --> 0:14:43.293 to be? 0:14:43.813 --> 0:14:47.013 I think so, Brian, I suspect it is. There seemed 0:14:47.013 --> 0:14:49.853 to be one hundreds of thousand people had a man 0:14:49.933 --> 0:14:52.613 of a bad who weren't complaining. They seem pretty happy. 0:14:52.613 --> 0:14:57.453 But yeah, I can't see that changing anytime soon. It's 0:14:58.453 --> 0:15:01.493 it's what is it? It's you know, it's a fan, 0:15:02.133 --> 0:15:07.213 it's fan entertainment. That's what apparently we want. That's what 0:15:07.253 --> 0:15:07.653 you want? 0:15:07.693 --> 0:15:16.333 Clearly, Well, I can't see Waddle sitting towards the back 0:15:16.453 --> 0:15:22.653 rows of a stand, listening to those screaming zealots on 0:15:22.693 --> 0:15:26.173 a mic urging him to stand. 0:15:25.853 --> 0:15:28.173 Up, and ooh, are who who are. 0:15:29.853 --> 0:15:33.333 Knocking over his neighbour's coffee as he does so? 0:15:33.573 --> 0:15:35.653 Or their eggs sandwich onto the ground? 0:15:36.453 --> 0:15:38.653 Kiss cam? What about kiss camp? Did they have that? 0:15:39.333 --> 0:15:40.733 I don't know what the hell that means? 0:15:41.373 --> 0:15:43.693 And that's when you get caught out kissing somebody you're 0:15:43.693 --> 0:15:44.613 not supposed to be kissing. 0:15:45.333 --> 0:15:48.213 Oh I see, Oh, well that's that you can mistake that. 0:15:50.373 --> 0:15:51.773 Haven't you heard of the cold Blake? 0:15:51.933 --> 0:15:54.933 But I just I just thought it was nauseating all 0:15:54.973 --> 0:15:59.173 that stuff. I mean it was it was distorting. I 0:15:59.213 --> 0:16:01.933 don't know what gen they're called now, what letter comes 0:16:01.973 --> 0:16:02.373 after it? 0:16:02.733 --> 0:16:05.093 They started at X and it seemed to get to 0:16:05.213 --> 0:16:06.133 Z very quickly. 0:16:07.333 --> 0:16:10.533 But I mean, it's it's rather different, I've got to say, 0:16:10.573 --> 0:16:15.653 than the gentle, decorous, kind of interesting Indians I met 0:16:15.693 --> 0:16:21.053 in the late nineteen eighties when I was there. It's 0:16:21.253 --> 0:16:24.013 very different nowadays, isn't it. Maybe it's just a format. 0:16:24.093 --> 0:16:27.133 Who knows, But I tell you what wats and I 0:16:27.133 --> 0:16:29.213 I guess we won't be in the back seats all 0:16:29.253 --> 0:16:29.693 we wants. 0:16:30.493 --> 0:16:32.933 I certainly won't be. In fact, I've got the monume 0:16:33.053 --> 0:16:34.013 turned down anyway. 0:16:34.573 --> 0:16:37.813 Me too. We're getting very old now too. 0:16:38.093 --> 0:16:38.453 Yeah. 0:16:38.533 --> 0:16:40.853 I think that's probably part of it as well. But 0:16:41.213 --> 0:16:44.733 the pictures came in forth some stick and this is 0:16:44.773 --> 0:16:47.213 where you're going to be very careful of social media. 0:16:47.733 --> 0:16:50.333 Matt Henry was quoted as having some comment to make 0:16:50.373 --> 0:16:55.613 about the pictures in the Middenings Break. But I listened 0:16:55.653 --> 0:16:58.733 to it and he never said anything about the pictures. 0:16:58.493 --> 0:17:03.013 And the question was asked, don't know who approves such pictures, 0:17:03.173 --> 0:17:07.613 but it was taken up by Nasa Hussein and he 0:17:07.933 --> 0:17:12.373 basically got into the VCCI and the ICC because they 0:17:12.373 --> 0:17:16.133 seem to be so much entwined. He said, India scored 0:17:16.173 --> 0:17:19.373 literally ninety two runs in the powerplay, which you don't 0:17:19.413 --> 0:17:21.893 see most often in cricket match. You've got to give 0:17:21.933 --> 0:17:24.933 something to the bowlers too as well. This isn't cricket. 0:17:25.053 --> 0:17:28.213 It's manipulation. The spirit of the game is being slapped. 0:17:28.613 --> 0:17:32.013 If this keeps happening, no one will trust the game anymore. 0:17:32.173 --> 0:17:35.133 It's a complete disgrace. Well, it is a manipulation and 0:17:35.573 --> 0:17:39.253 at your point, Jeremy from a previous podcast. The bowlers 0:17:39.293 --> 0:17:40.653 have to get something, don't they. 0:17:41.293 --> 0:17:44.853 Well, if you want to have a cricket equation, yes, 0:17:46.933 --> 0:17:49.213 they'll say. Well, they do get something and they get 0:17:49.213 --> 0:17:51.733 a new ball. And that's why I mentioned swinging the 0:17:51.733 --> 0:17:54.533 ball away. The Indians were capable of swinging it in 0:17:54.653 --> 0:17:58.533 and out. Our bowlers, I think, are a little bit 0:17:58.653 --> 0:18:02.853 set on waiting for the grass or something to assist them, 0:18:02.933 --> 0:18:05.653 so they seem it. We tend to be a seam 0:18:05.813 --> 0:18:10.573 dominated kind of attack. Can't niem swing the ball? You 0:18:10.613 --> 0:18:14.213 tell me what I don't think, for example, we should 0:18:14.253 --> 0:18:17.773 have all seamers. We should have people who can swing it. Now, 0:18:17.893 --> 0:18:20.213 Duffy can a bit. Why can't he swing it in? 0:18:21.053 --> 0:18:21.773 Is that his action? 0:18:22.853 --> 0:18:23.013 You know? 0:18:23.133 --> 0:18:27.613 I just feel we need to be upskilled individually if 0:18:27.613 --> 0:18:30.933 we want to be able to go to places like India, 0:18:31.093 --> 0:18:34.533 which doesn't grow grass that well all they don't want 0:18:34.573 --> 0:18:40.573 to do it anyway, especially in T twenty matches. So look, 0:18:41.973 --> 0:18:46.013 I feel for the bowlers, I do, But you've just 0:18:46.053 --> 0:18:48.893 got to skill yourself up, don't you. You've got to 0:18:48.933 --> 0:18:53.093 be able to be more accurate at the variety of 0:18:53.173 --> 0:18:58.413 deliveries because if we don't swing it straight, it's dead. Straight, 0:18:58.813 --> 0:19:02.813 and that means you're relying now on pace or links 0:19:03.693 --> 0:19:05.013 or the combination. 0:19:05.213 --> 0:19:07.333 And pace doesn't seem to be an issue. I mean, 0:19:07.373 --> 0:19:10.973 Ferguson just like it. They love it it. It just goes, 0:19:11.053 --> 0:19:11.493 doesn't it. 0:19:12.013 --> 0:19:13.733 Yeah, Ferguson went for forty eight. 0:19:13.813 --> 0:19:16.053 The issue with swing, though, of course, in the past, 0:19:16.493 --> 0:19:19.213 was something that the bowlers didn't want to do because 0:19:19.413 --> 0:19:21.333 the ball would swing down the leg side by it 0:19:21.853 --> 0:19:27.133 where you go, and so they tried to make it 0:19:27.293 --> 0:19:31.333 such that the bowlers weren't swinging it to any great degree. 0:19:31.773 --> 0:19:35.413 All right down leg side is understandable, though sometimes I 0:19:35.453 --> 0:19:37.733 think that the wives are called and it's just because 0:19:37.773 --> 0:19:39.493 the batsman is not good enough to hit them that 0:19:39.533 --> 0:19:44.093 they get called wide. But you know, does that now 0:19:44.173 --> 0:19:46.533 matter that we need to be able to get that 0:19:46.973 --> 0:19:49.013 swing and control the swing. 0:19:49.013 --> 0:19:52.693 Most look, I think that there's just something that says 0:19:54.013 --> 0:19:56.013 same same as what we tend to be a little 0:19:56.053 --> 0:19:59.933 bit of. As Jerry said, we've basically got fast medium 0:19:59.933 --> 0:20:04.733 bowlers on these sort of wickets just just cann't follow 0:20:04.813 --> 0:20:07.293 for these For these players, you need a point of difference. 0:20:07.333 --> 0:20:11.413 That's what Jasper will are brinks, It's what Aksa the 0:20:11.573 --> 0:20:15.453 brings swinging both swinging both ways. You need to bring 0:20:15.493 --> 0:20:19.453 something different otherwise straight and quick. That's just that's just 0:20:19.573 --> 0:20:22.093 not it's not a challenge we all, as I said 0:20:22.093 --> 0:20:26.613 touchdown before, we don't have a really clever, deceptive, a 0:20:26.653 --> 0:20:28.733 spinner or two, whereas the Indians seem to have a 0:20:28.733 --> 0:20:30.933 few of them, don't they. You've got to have a 0:20:30.973 --> 0:20:33.613 point of difference, especially when you're at these flat decks, 0:20:34.133 --> 0:20:37.413 because it's just it's just too easy and and you're 0:20:37.413 --> 0:20:40.173 relying on them making mistake and these players are too good. 0:20:40.213 --> 0:20:42.533 They're not going to make those sort of mistakes. And 0:20:42.733 --> 0:20:44.813 even if one does, you've got three or four others 0:20:44.813 --> 0:20:47.333 are going to come in and and continue to whack 0:20:47.413 --> 0:20:49.893 you because they go long way down, don't they India 0:20:50.053 --> 0:20:52.773 or teams like that, as do teams like for that matter, 0:20:54.173 --> 0:20:57.413 so Africa, they definitely go long way down in batting. 0:20:57.973 --> 0:20:59.933 Even for that matter, with Jack's coming in when he 0:20:59.933 --> 0:21:02.333 does a six, seven and eight and song, So we 0:21:03.133 --> 0:21:06.533 need something different in our bowling and hopefully that's what 0:21:06.613 --> 0:21:09.493 they go they take away from the tournament that we're 0:21:09.493 --> 0:21:11.773 going to look for that do we have those sort 0:21:11.813 --> 0:21:15.453 of players outside of the current crop that we've got 0:21:16.253 --> 0:21:19.293 I'm not sure. I don't know. Perhaps you've seen more 0:21:19.293 --> 0:21:19.613 than I have. 0:21:19.733 --> 0:21:23.453 Bright Yeah, well, I mean they're probably there. It's a 0:21:23.493 --> 0:21:25.693 development thing. They've got to be playing more of that 0:21:25.733 --> 0:21:28.613 form of cricket, I suppose. And that's what they talk about. 0:21:28.613 --> 0:21:31.413 A T twenty competition here and getting players set for 0:21:31.453 --> 0:21:34.373 T twenty. That's what India have, don't they. Many of 0:21:34.413 --> 0:21:37.653 their test players don't front up. There's the odd one 0:21:37.733 --> 0:21:41.173 or two, the boomra but in terms of their batting, 0:21:41.333 --> 0:21:47.093 it's basically dominated by T twenty specialists and we don't 0:21:47.093 --> 0:21:50.133 have quite the same number of people I suppose to 0:21:50.173 --> 0:21:50.973 play our game. 0:21:52.533 --> 0:21:55.133 But you know, it's the. 0:21:55.133 --> 0:21:57.453 Thing is, there'll be another World T twenty competition one 0:21:57.493 --> 0:22:01.253 in a couple of weeks, won't they. They'll be starting 0:22:01.253 --> 0:22:02.133 another one, aren't they. 0:22:03.133 --> 0:22:06.853 But someone was quite clever they there's anythings. They organized 0:22:07.413 --> 0:22:10.413 a competition themselves, a twenty twenty competition. It seems to 0:22:10.453 --> 0:22:14.973 have gone quite well, and the place you have come 0:22:14.973 --> 0:22:18.253 out of that that go on to be quite useful 0:22:18.293 --> 0:22:20.733 at the international level. Maybe it's a coincidence. 0:22:21.413 --> 0:22:27.253 There are rewards there for individual you know, skills and 0:22:27.253 --> 0:22:30.373 a wider range of accuracy. They'd been there were how 0:22:30.453 --> 0:22:32.893 many weeks would they have been there? Sort of nearly 0:22:33.053 --> 0:22:36.253 three or three or four weeks New Zealand have anyway, 0:22:36.453 --> 0:22:39.973 you haven't done so what why would they Why would 0:22:40.013 --> 0:22:41.893