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Speaker 1: And it is a great pleasure to welcome into the
Speaker 1: studio David Good David, Hey, gun Mate's.
Speaker 3: Good to be here, bro, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: That's the story.
Speaker 1: Will wind week will in a few days for you.
Speaker 1: Hasn't it been? When did you first find out that
Speaker 1: old mate was not going to be able to fight?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, the positive test came about like five weeks ago,
Speaker 5: last end of July, so it's actually been a long time.
Speaker 5: But we were trying to make the fight still happen.
Speaker 5: I still wanted to fight Blake, But now that we've
Speaker 5: got this new guy, Tommy Carpenti, he's actually a better
Speaker 5: body to fight.
Speaker 3: If you know what I mean, Like he won't be
Speaker 3: as negative.
Speaker 5: When I say negative, it's just like when you're not
Speaker 5: trying to win a fight but survive or like.
Speaker 6: Does that head style just try and survive, Not so
Speaker 6: much survive, but like just getting close quarters No, it's more.
Speaker 5: Leaning away in the way, and it's like I would
Speaker 5: be trying to make the fight happen for everybody in
Speaker 5: the crowd, you know, and he would be trying to
Speaker 5: stop me from doing anything I wanted to do. So
Speaker 5: it's yeah, me and Blake would have been I tell
Speaker 5: you what, it could have been lackluster, especially after four
Speaker 5: heavyweight fights on the undercart. We've got four heavyweight fights
Speaker 5: on a row which are going to be sick.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, say how much? How much has it affected your
Speaker 6: preparation though? Because obviously he got announced in the media.
Speaker 6: You see it into July, so you probably had a
Speaker 6: bit of time, but you didn't know your new opponent
Speaker 6: till how long.
Speaker 3: Ago, forty eight hours? I think does that.
Speaker 6: Change your preparation? I mean do you have to do
Speaker 6: a bit of research around, Like, because you're saying that
Speaker 6: different types of fighters, how does that affect? Is that
Speaker 6: like that to me? I'd ship I'd ship my pants.
Speaker 6: I'd be like, fuck, isn't I've trained for this other
Speaker 6: guy and now I've got this another rooster coming.
Speaker 5: I guess boxing is the kind of sport you need
Speaker 5: to be able to adapt on the spot anyway. So
Speaker 5: I've got I've got five or six different modes in
Speaker 5: terms of like how I fight, so uh, it doesn't
Speaker 5: change that much.
Speaker 3: He's still a solfbore, so he's still left handed.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 5: He's got a similar record, similar experience. He's fought three
Speaker 5: formal world champions and he's beaten one of them, so
Speaker 5: he's succeeded where Blake Caparello failed, if you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. So he's very credible. This fight will get
Speaker 5: me into the top fifteen in the WBO. I'm already
Speaker 5: top fifteen in the IBF, but.
Speaker 3: It might put me up a couple of places.
Speaker 5: So that's it's a big step towards snatching one of
Speaker 5: those titles, if.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump too far down the track.
Speaker 1: But if and when you get down down the end
Speaker 1: here and you're you know, you're fighting for the WBO,
Speaker 1: the ib F, the ABC's, the tcs ands and the
Speaker 1: BG's and all that.
Speaker 6: Accs, he we'll wring that belt out.
Speaker 4: You can win hold that immediately.
Speaker 1: When when you win all of these, can you just
Speaker 1: melt them down into one belt because it's so confusing
Speaker 1: to follow all of the different boxing organizations.
Speaker 5: Isn't it well that there are four major belts. There's
Speaker 5: the IBF, w b O, w B A, and WBC.
Speaker 5: So at the moment, we're looking at the first two
Speaker 5: the ib F from the w b O to be
Speaker 5: unified to be the undisputed world champions, to have all
Speaker 5: the belts.
Speaker 3: So in some ways it's good.
Speaker 5: In some ways, it's a bit confusing for the for
Speaker 5: the layman, for the casuals, you know, but uh, a
Speaker 5: world champions, a world champion, and to be able to
Speaker 5: fight the other world champions as as that's.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's incredible.
Speaker 5: Like you've got the UFC now you've got, but you've
Speaker 5: also got those other those other bodies where you've got
Speaker 5: some murderers out there that are just as good as
Speaker 5: the other guys, you know, Like.
Speaker 4: I can't even PFLFI League. Then there's the one championship PFL.
Speaker 3: I think they might be coming along, they might be yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who's that.
Speaker 6: Saudi money for podcasting we've been we've.
Speaker 1: Been calling for that for a long time, like if
Speaker 1: they want to if they want to wash their money
Speaker 1: by sponsoring podcasts, we've been happily a lot of boxing
Speaker 1: over in Saudi A.
Speaker 5: Have you been over there this yeah, I thought on
Speaker 5: the Fury Usic undercard, So that was that was kind
Speaker 5: of my my first big test against another undefeated prospect,
Speaker 5: and hoping to get back over there in December for
Speaker 5: the for the rematch. Yeah, the Usk Fury too. What's
Speaker 5: the crowd like one of those things, like it was a.
Speaker 3: Little bit quieter when I got in, it was a
Speaker 3: little bit earlier. I think it was like it was
Speaker 3: like a nine or it's like a nine hour card,
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a long night.
Speaker 5: So by the time Fury and Usak came out, it
Speaker 5: was three thirty in the morning. Kendrick lamars up on
Speaker 5: this platform rapping, like going going crazy, and everyone's like
Speaker 5: struggling to keep their eyes over.
Speaker 3: Like please get off, please get off. We want to
Speaker 3: watch this fight.
Speaker 4: Because they're not drinking other Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, well, like the British fans, I think they all
Speaker 5: got got on at the Embassy. I think they found
Speaker 5: a loophole so out there and went across. But so
Speaker 5: it was pretty rowdy. It was pretty rowdy in the
Speaker 5: main event especially. Yeah, so the crowd was awesome and
Speaker 5: I got like a nice ovation when I got out
Speaker 5: the ring and stuff. So people were very very respectful
Speaker 5: over there. It's it's amazing place.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was in Abu Dhabi. I worked there for
Speaker 6: a while and they put a UFC fight on there
Speaker 6: and all of the front row about three rows back
Speaker 6: were all locals in their pristine white dish dashes, and
Speaker 6: so they're all sitting there and they love a bit
Speaker 6: of combat fighting. But there was blood flying out of
Speaker 6: that ring. I looked over one guy and they had
Speaker 6: blood splitted all over their dish stashes.
Speaker 4: I would love.
Speaker 6: I was just like, oh my god, I don't seem
Speaker 6: anything like it, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was. It was a good times.
Speaker 6: Just touching on before you said like confusing for the
Speaker 6: late person in terms of the casual fan, can you
Speaker 6: tore me through the different divisions, because like, obviously the
Speaker 6: most famous is the heavyweights. You know, it's Tyson's, George
Speaker 6: Foreman all that. You know, they probably get the most limelight.
Speaker 6: So you got that that's the top, that's the heavyweights.
Speaker 6: He's no super heavyweights in there. That's more not yet,
Speaker 6: it's just heavyweights. It's just open grade whatever. And then
Speaker 6: the other probably most famous division, is the kind of
Speaker 6: Floyd maywhere the yeah, the world's weight where So can
Speaker 6: you explain all the divisions and where you are and
Speaker 6: what your your is your goal to go up a division?
Speaker 4: Is it? What is it?
Speaker 3: So so it's it's a little bit unfair in some ways.
Speaker 5: So that there are I think maybe fourteen divisions and
Speaker 5: they start right down at like.
Speaker 3: Forty nine kilos or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the next division up is two kilos heavier,
Speaker 5: then it's two killers heavier above that, then three killers,
Speaker 5: then four kilos heavier. But by the time you get
Speaker 5: up from light heavyweight is seventy nine points something kilos, right,
Speaker 5: So let's say seventy nine killers. The next division up,
Speaker 5: my division, cruiserweight is ninety point seven killers.
Speaker 6: It's different.
Speaker 3: It's a big jump.
Speaker 5: It's one hundred and seventy five pounds up to two
Speaker 5: hundred pounds. That's a big difference. So when I made
Speaker 5: that transition and I tried to put on all the
Speaker 5: muscle I could to to you know, fill out that division,
Speaker 5: and it really didn't do me any.
Speaker 3: Favors for about three or four years, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's a it's a it's a big jump, and
Speaker 5: anything above that is heavyweight.
Speaker 3: So technically right now, I'm a heavyweight.
Speaker 5: I'm walking around at about ninety four kilos, so my
Speaker 5: weights come down since the starter camp, but I walk
Speaker 5: around as a heavyweight ninety eight kilos kind of thing.
Speaker 5: So I think I see three heavyweights here today.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm thinking more super heavyweight y.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's the heavyweight? What's the sorry, what's your.
Speaker 3: Two Hundred's the two hundred pounds limits?
Speaker 5: So ninety point seven ninety point seven kilos, yeah, which
Speaker 5: is not actually that big nowadays, you know.
Speaker 3: So heavy.
Speaker 4: I didn't think so either, David, you did, right, But.
Speaker 5: Anything above that weight you're not going to get any more.
Speaker 5: You're going to get faster, You're not going to get fitter.
Speaker 3: You will get more power.
Speaker 5: That's that's one thing that you get signialificantly more of
Speaker 5: You get more power. But I feel like the cruiserweight
Speaker 5: division you get some really really athletic fighters that have
Speaker 5: their conditioning, have the power.
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of the best of both worlds.
Speaker 5: You know, Like I run a our our twenty two
Speaker 5: half marathon, so it's like sub form inute case. That's
Speaker 5: that's quick for anywhere. It's quick for anyone. So you've like,
Speaker 5: at this division, you've got athletes that can, you know,
Speaker 5: be endurance athletes, but also produce spectacular knockouts. You know,
Speaker 5: and I guess in the in the pro game that
Speaker 5: gloves are only designed to protect your hands, not your
Speaker 5: opponent's faces.
Speaker 3: So you get a lot more heavy a lot more knockouts. Anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for the most part, that heavyweight division.
Speaker 3: Is power power is king.
Speaker 4: Are you quite tall for your white class? Is quite
Speaker 4: a tall dude.
Speaker 5: I think I think I'm about right, but I think
Speaker 5: I've got I've got a frame that could easily move
Speaker 5: up to heavyweight. So, like Joseph Parker is about six four,
Speaker 5: he says he's six four, He's about six to six
Speaker 5: Tyson Fury is a real six nine. He's reel six
Speaker 5: foot nine. Like you see him next to me, I
Speaker 5: look like like a weeve.
Speaker 4: He's huge.
Speaker 5: He's huge, but a good basketball I doubted. I feel
Speaker 5: like you found his home in boxing. Like you see
Speaker 5: him running.
Speaker 3: He's not a good runner, but he could run all day.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: He's just he's he's got some kind of God given hellent.
Speaker 4: Then that's sort of the traveler magic.
Speaker 3: The drive man.
Speaker 5: It's pretty incredible. Like we do fifteen rounds of body spraying.
Speaker 5: When I went and trained over with Joe and Pyson
Speaker 5: Fury for for six months, we do fifteen rounds.
Speaker 3: Of body sparying.
Speaker 5: So I'm the smallest guy there out of like six heavyweights,
Speaker 5: and after fifteen rounds, all of us that shattered. Tyson's
Speaker 5: the only one that looks like he could do another fifteen. Really,
Speaker 5: and he's got a bit he's got a bit more padding. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's got a motor on him. But nonetheless, nonetheless he's
Speaker 5: you'd look at him and think he's the most out
Speaker 5: of shape guy. He's the only guy that could have
Speaker 5: done another fifteen, you know what I mean. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: you my organs are like turning inside my road page.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: You spend a bit of time Morecambe. Then is that
Speaker 6: where you went to train with him?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did, I did.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: That was awesome. It was it was very cool.
Speaker 5: It was it was an eye opener. I learned how
Speaker 5: to how to fight. I didn't learn a hell of
Speaker 5: a lot. I learned technical aspects of the sport, but
Speaker 5: I kind of transitioned my my own mentality from in
Speaker 5: the amateur boxing, I felt like a competitor.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was.
Speaker 5: Competing when I went over there and I sparred with
Speaker 5: some really really tough guys over there, I feel like
Speaker 5: I learned how to fight, Like you need to be
Speaker 5: able to fight. It's not it's not a competition anymore.
Speaker 5: You're not trying to out point the other guy. You're
Speaker 5: trying to learn how to break your guy down and
Speaker 5: andiat him.
Speaker 6: And yeah, because it must mean but that's the thing.
Speaker 6: It must change, because you're saying when you're an amateur,
Speaker 6: you know, like you're saying your competitor, but we.
Speaker 3: Don't have to hurt them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's about points, you know. And
Speaker 6: at the end of it, you've got weird a head
Speaker 6: gear because its kind of like calm games. You know,
Speaker 6: it's very it looks very technically.
Speaker 5: They got rid of the head gear. But nonetheless, the
Speaker 5: gloves you've got about I reckon about six or seven
Speaker 5: centimeters of padding it in front of your glove and
Speaker 5: the pro and the pro game.
Speaker 3: Your gloves are.
Speaker 5: Made out of horse here, so horse hair really bins
Speaker 5: and molds around your fast. It's designed to protect your hand,
Speaker 5: not your opponents. So yeah, you get yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 5: get a lot more hurt. Yeah, yea yeah, must you've
Speaker 5: got dehydration, you've got you've got cuts, You've got a
Speaker 5: lot more impact, You've got a lot more time to
Speaker 5: take impact as well.
Speaker 3: So completely different game.
Speaker 5: And I didn't really appreciate it until I until I
Speaker 5: went over and trained with the lights of the Furies.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, and they taught you you're in the ring.
Speaker 6: You're in the ring to basically knock the fuck out
Speaker 6: of the guys.
Speaker 4: Guy. Yeah right, business, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 6: I watched the Fury Is at Home with the Furies,
Speaker 6: still one of my favorite programs, of him jogging on
Speaker 6: the waterfront there at Morecambe and then him looking down
Speaker 6: the barrel of the camera and him going, you know,
Speaker 6: I've made so much fucking money. I've got too much money.
Speaker 6: I don't even have to do with. Why would you
Speaker 6: want to live anywhere else? And it panned back and
Speaker 6: it was just like two kilometers of mudflats and the
Speaker 6: shitter seaside town in the world. But he was so
Speaker 6: fucking stoked to be there. Yeah, hard not to vibe
Speaker 6: off his energy even via the like everything was so positive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. He seemed like a real dude.
Speaker 1: He had like a Ferrari parked in his driveway and
Speaker 1: he's like, I can't even fit in the car.
Speaker 3: Pull up on it, he offered, that's the black one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He asked me if I wanted to take it for
Speaker 5: a spin. I was like, I do not trust myself.
Speaker 4: Just get sideways, send it into a park car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he did. He did look way too big
Speaker 3: for it coming out of it though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm speaking of living in strange places.
Speaker 1: You're living in Queensland town, like an hour out of
Speaker 1: out of Brisbane in Queensland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got a population of about eight thousand, right,
Speaker 5: and it's kind of the borderline. When you start heading
Speaker 5: into into like the middle of Australia, it's like you
Speaker 5: start seeing cowboys and whatnot, like cowboys with the with.
Speaker 3: The cowboy hat cleats. Yeah, it's awesome and pretty cool.
Speaker 6: And they fly helicopters like Troy Dan.
Speaker 5: You no, no, no, no, I haven't seen many helicopters
Speaker 5: there is that there is an army base out there.
Speaker 5: They do some pretty pretty wicked, wicked stuff in there,
Speaker 5: and the jets out there.
Speaker 1: But why what is it called getting getting a t
Speaker 1: t O in Yeah, why are there a lot of
Speaker 1: boxers out there?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 5: So on my way back from Morecambe, I I was
Speaker 5: on my way to Melbourne for for a fight on
Speaker 5: the Devin Haney George Cambosa's undercart and I needed a
Speaker 5: coach for four weeks leading up to the to the
Speaker 5: Belt and so Dave Higgins from Duco lined me up
Speaker 5: with a coach, Noel Thornbury, who's my coach today? And
Speaker 5: uh I turned up the airport. Noel had twenty four
Speaker 5: hours notice. I was on the plane when he got
Speaker 5: the call. Oh, by the way, David's coming over now.
Speaker 5: So this is yeah, this is like still during COVID time.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to I'm trying to fill out a
Speaker 5: form of where I'm going to be staying, like where
Speaker 5: will you be residing? And I was like I found
Speaker 5: I found a random hotel and like a nearby like
Speaker 5: a nearby area. I wasn't sure if I was training
Speaker 5: in Brisbane or where. They turn up and say, you
Speaker 5: know good A nol met his his son Cass and we.
Speaker 3: We just drove out into the country. So where are
Speaker 3: we going to.
Speaker 4: YouTube creak like that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But so we're driving out then and we're driving into
Speaker 5: into Gatton and I'm saying, like this is this is beautiful,
Speaker 5: like the lock your valley is a beautiful place. And
Speaker 5: he thought I was taking the pistol whole time. But
Speaker 5: I love it out there. It's like no.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5: I tell you see every sunset post I put on
Speaker 5: my Instagram, Gatten baby, it's gotten. It's a beautiful landscape.
Speaker 5: I've got everything I need there. I'm dating Noel's daughter now,
Speaker 5: so I've got to be the best behavior and I am.
Speaker 4: That's worked out well. It's worked out really well.
Speaker 5: It's worked out really well with I'm a part time caretaker.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I do the mowing, I do the whipper snipping. I do.
Speaker 3: I call it whipper snipping.
Speaker 5: Now, I do the gurney, water blasting, grab a drunk songs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is long ploys. I'm gonna ge him over.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna check them up with my daughter.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love it out there. There's I've got my chickens,
Speaker 3: I've got my garden.
Speaker 5: It's like a very very simple lifestyle and it's something
Speaker 5: that I think I've I've always been longing for and
Speaker 5: you don't realize.
Speaker 3: What you I didn't realize I needed it until I
Speaker 3: had it.
Speaker 5: And now I like now, big cities overwhelmed me, you know,
Speaker 5: around too many people for too long overwhelms me, you know.
Speaker 5: And I've got everything I need in a small country town.
Speaker 5: We drive into Brisbane twice a week for sparring. That's
Speaker 5: all I need, you know, I've got. I've got wide
Speaker 5: open roads to to run with, fresh clean air. A
Speaker 5: few brown snakes the roads. Yeah, the brown snakes are
Speaker 5: they've killed a few of Nole's dogs and like we've
Speaker 5: seen a few around the apartments kind of thing. So
Speaker 5: it's pretty sketchy, but but I love it, like I
Speaker 5: just I just need to start wearing shoes, wearing shoes
Speaker 5: in the backyards because I was cus. You know, we
Speaker 5: walk around beer, I'm turning over logs. I keep forgetting
Speaker 5: that they've got like red backs like everywhere. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: got all these, like they've got every dangerous all every
Speaker 5: deadly spider in the world is in Australia.
Speaker 4: I used to live over in Australia for a bit.
Speaker 1: When I first went over there, we were playing backyard
Speaker 1: cricket and I hit the ball under the house.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'll go and get it, crawl under.
Speaker 4: Someone grabbed me by my ankles.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah, don't do it, and then wonder I
Speaker 1: walked into a ship. There was a red back spider
Speaker 1: in the corner of the thing. I freaked out, so
Speaker 1: I ran back out, come back with a can of Flyesprey.
Speaker 1: Just dosed the whole thing. And I count that as
Speaker 1: a victory over an animal that could have killed me.
Speaker 1: Went one on one with some flyesprey. I went one
Speaker 1: on one with with an animal that could have killed me,
Speaker 1: and I killed it.
Speaker 3: This is seventy thousand dollars fine for killing your brown snake?
Speaker 3: Is it something something silly like that?
Speaker 5: It's it's it's illegal to kill brown snakes. But they'll
Speaker 5: kill your dog, they'll kill your children.
Speaker 4: Do they give no? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, but it's bullshit.
Speaker 6: We've just gotta sat quite a bit of me about
Speaker 6: which animal do you think you could defeat?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, this is one of my I love this game.
Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: I spent so much time thinking about that, so I
Speaker 1: reckon The rules are you're one on one, you're basically
Speaker 1: in ufc CA. Yeah, and then depending on the size
Speaker 1: of the animal that might need to.
Speaker 3: Sitting up on my seat ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's start with something that's very similar
Speaker 1: to a human. What about like a kangaroo. Like obviously
Speaker 1: you're a boxer. This is the sort of forte boxing
Speaker 1: you could take kangaroo.
Speaker 5: I could take any kangaroo, I think. Yeah, in front
Speaker 5: of any kangaroo that you just can't let them grab
Speaker 5: hold of it, can't.
Speaker 4: They'll kick the ship out of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they rip your guts up. Yeah, because they get
Speaker 4: up on the old oh out of me.
Speaker 5: So they range between forty and eighty kilos, so imagine, yes,
Speaker 5: an eighty kilo diners.
Speaker 6: You a cruise aweight Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a
Speaker 6: cruise aweight bird.
Speaker 5: They're prehistoric. They made it through the medior strike or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're tough, right, it's tough. Could you take a could
Speaker 5: you take a forty kilos forty?
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, it would suck me up, it would. It
Speaker 4: would scratch me in a bit. But but.
Speaker 3: You haven't seen one in person.
Speaker 6: I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they make a noise like a it's like
Speaker 1: quite a deep noise that sort of reddles your chest
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 4: For eighty, I'm eight. Where's the crossover where problem is
Speaker 4: a problem?
Speaker 6: You're wayne, it's going to be awayn But again, tiny
Speaker 6: little heads.
Speaker 1: You know, if I can get to the head, I reckon,
Speaker 1: I can. I reckon, I can take it out.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what are you going to do to the head.
Speaker 3: That's how you're going to snap it.
Speaker 4: It's the neck. If I get hold of the neck, yeah,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: Spinning backfast, dude.
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, no, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't get your arms round because it's already got
Speaker 3: his talent. It's got to be a spinning backfast.
Speaker 4: I think maybe I get the elbows going again too close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to keep yours.
Speaker 4: You don't think you could jab that thing to no
Speaker 4: jab it's beak, no way.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm getting out of this thing like unscathed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like it's going to fuck me up.
Speaker 1: But I do think that I'd walk out with my
Speaker 1: hand raised at the end of it. I think I've
Speaker 1: had a theory that I reckon I could take out
Speaker 1: a giraffe.
Speaker 4: Oh hear me.
Speaker 1: It's because giraffes have to eat so often that it's
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna have to take a nap before I.
Speaker 6: Have you seen when they fight? Have you seen when
Speaker 6: they brought me and then smack each other?
Speaker 4: That would clean.
Speaker 3: Getting your legs up for sure.
Speaker 4: That's right. I'm going to have to stay mobile for
Speaker 4: the first sort of twelve hours.
Speaker 3: Hold on, no, no, no, have you seen them kill lions? Them? So?
Speaker 5: So you think a deer does the same to a dog. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: a giraffe does it to a lion?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I was thinking.
Speaker 3: I was still thinking the neck, because'm still thinking about
Speaker 3: the neck.
Speaker 5: If I can grab on I think if you can
Speaker 5: get your arms around it, you might be okay.
Speaker 3: But how long can you hold onto his neck? But
Speaker 3: how do you get up there?
Speaker 4: It's just down.
Speaker 5: You've got to you've got to time it as it
Speaker 5: swings down, right, You've got a time.
Speaker 6: You guys are crazy. And then you're dreaming. Man, No
Speaker 6: one's beating a giraft a baby one that's just been born.
Speaker 6: I reckon I could clop there like real wobbly and
Speaker 6: then just take it down.
Speaker 1: But my theory was it's eventually going to get tired
Speaker 1: before I am. That's when it kneels down and now
Speaker 1: I'm rear naked, choking like you.
Speaker 4: Thinking you're.
Speaker 3: They live in like then the heat every.
Speaker 6: Day we go all day, Like after twelve hours, you're hungry.
Speaker 6: You're hungrier than the lions.
Speaker 1: Don't even mess with them, but they don't have the
Speaker 1: mentality that that's the difference. I think eating monkey taller
Speaker 1: than like knee height, I'm done. Monkeys are just too strong.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't want to rangutan. They will just clobber
Speaker 6: you with't they.
Speaker 3: A main coon? You know what?
Speaker 4: The cats?
Speaker 3: Big cat?
Speaker 5: I've cat sat for one of them before, and oh
Speaker 5: they're scary man.
Speaker 6: Well that's I suppose that there's got those one of
Speaker 6: those ones that the zoo, the slightly large at the servial. Yeah,
Speaker 6: did you take one of those on?
Speaker 1: Nah? I've been like, have you ever had your cat
Speaker 1: just freak out in attack you for no reason? Like
Speaker 1: tried times that by like four, I reckon.
Speaker 5: Cats put their claws in your yeah, yeah, like it
Speaker 5: all goes to your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So largest animal you reckon probably a kangaroo.
Speaker 6: Oh geez, I reckon I wallaby for me. I don't
Speaker 6: about to take a kangaroo. Koos get pretty big.
Speaker 3: I have seen one of the big ones.
Speaker 6: In the the ones with the chest, and.
Speaker 5: I've seen one of them like we get we get
Speaker 5: five foot kangaroos. Where we live, you're all over the
Speaker 5: shop up to like seven feet. Though that's bose things.
Speaker 1: My message works with animals. And she used to work
Speaker 1: at this private zoos sort of thing. I helped her
Speaker 1: feed one day and I was in this little trench.
Speaker 1: A giraffe put its head over the top, was eating
Speaker 1: out of the bucket in this hand. Then an ostrich
Speaker 1: comes walking up the thing towards me, and I was
Speaker 1: freaking out. Is an ostrich coming? She goes, if you're scared,
Speaker 1: put your hand above your head and it'll think that
Speaker 1: you're taller than it and it'll back down. So now
Speaker 1: I'm standing here, there's a giraffe eating out of my
Speaker 1: left arm, my right hand, my right hands above my head,
Speaker 1: and the ostrich just walked straight up to me and
Speaker 1: started eating out of the same bucket as well.
Speaker 3: Don't you put your head in the sand. Isn't that
Speaker 3: put your little ostrich head in the sand? I reckon,
Speaker 3: I said to the this is not working.
Speaker 4: She goes, oh, yeah, no, it doesn't work. I was
Speaker 4: taking the pit Is it worth.
Speaker 3: Us like mentioning we don't want to fight these animals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all hypothetic.
Speaker 3: Year before you get canceled, well.
Speaker 4: Before a kangaroo hears this.
Speaker 6: The other question that we spent a long time talking
Speaker 6: about over beers is you're in the ring. You're in
Speaker 6: a ring. It's a fight to the death, Okay, a
Speaker 6: fight for survival. And look, I'm not saying we endorse this,
Speaker 6: but I've got kids. There is thousands of kids in
Speaker 6: the crowd, and they're coming at you, five at a time,
Speaker 6: five at a time, and it's fight to the death.
Speaker 6: Wa Yeah, they're coming in waves. How many waves can
Speaker 6: you survive in that ring?
Speaker 4: And they're coming.
Speaker 6: They're not They're not there to just wrestle.
Speaker 4: They are to kill you.
Speaker 6: They're like they want to these Polynesian kids.
Speaker 3: You know, we've got Alex Lear Jr. As on my undercut.
Speaker 3: He's eighteen years old.
Speaker 5: I saw him fighting at fifteen and he's an absolute monster.
Speaker 5: I saw him hitting the paths and I was like,
Speaker 5: I actually know I've seen him at six years old.
Speaker 3: I'll see you in this video. I'll see you.
Speaker 5: This video of him hitting the pads at six years old.
Speaker 5: He still hits harder than I do today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's against them, they're five years old.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I know this sounds too the all different
Speaker 6: ages when it's a it's a representation of the of
Speaker 6: the demographic of New Zealand. So there will be all
Speaker 6: sorts coming at you. Yeah, so I reckon I could do.
Speaker 6: The other question is.
Speaker 4: Can you hear them? Do they cry? Because because.
Speaker 6: Cry because I've come out, You're like, they want to
Speaker 6: kill you and you're not the first one out and
Speaker 6: he will be crying for his much.
Speaker 3: Can we can we say these are like zombie kids?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they don't make a noise when you hit them.
Speaker 3: They probably they're probably crying the whole time.
Speaker 4: No, I know, this is the discussion we have.
Speaker 6: And then the cacophony that would happen after six or
Speaker 6: seven waves have been put down would just overwhelm you
Speaker 6: and then you just go out. I'm done taking So
Speaker 6: you guys have been canceled.
Speaker 3: This is your last podcast.
Speaker 4: You listened stuff, David. This is okay, this is okay,
Speaker 4: definitely okay, it's not okay.
Speaker 3: It's just got my first beat of sweat coming through
Speaker 3: my shirt.
Speaker 4: Now you don't have to answer. I said, I would go.
Speaker 6: I said, I reckon, I do five, and then I'd
Speaker 6: be two paffed, and then they would just galler for me,
Speaker 6: you know, when they would have you got I got
Speaker 6: three and they can probably take me as But if
Speaker 6: it's fights for survival, and I did talk, can I
Speaker 6: have a cricket bat or you know, any weapons? And
Speaker 6: he said no, it's just pure. It's just because if
Speaker 6: we have a cricket bat, I'm becking myself just probably
Speaker 6: up to a dozen waves. But if it's just hand
Speaker 6: to hand, I'm five or six and then I'm done.
Speaker 4: It's basically a six waves.
Speaker 6: Yeah talking about yeah, but every it's every two minutes,
Speaker 6: so five come, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 3: The whole class.
Speaker 6: Kids, David, kids not human human? What about you and I?
Speaker 6: How many waves do you have it? Every two minutes?
Speaker 6: Five more come?
Speaker 4: It's a fitness test, man.
Speaker 1: I did a bloody boxing fitness class on Wednesday and
Speaker 1: I could barely get through a bag that didn't fight back.
Speaker 4: Hurrican word for maybe three How many kids are five? Five?
Speaker 6: Five year olds are coming to eat you? Every two minutes.
Speaker 1: Every two minutes, I flat line that first five year
Speaker 1: old I reckon. The other four are back in half.
Speaker 1: There's mombie kids. We've discussed this. They're there and they
Speaker 1: for them, it's survival as well. They're going to the death.
Speaker 4: Like like three and then I'm blowing real hard and
Speaker 4: then they're coming from behind. They're on your back. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do I get a risk in between?
Speaker 5: I think as soon as you get taken down, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: as soon as you start hitting the deck.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, my guess. Thanks. Probably not where I need
Speaker 4: it to be, to be taking on waves.
Speaker 6: And knowing five year olds, they'll I'm straight for your
Speaker 6: nuts as well, straight for the balls. Yeah, straight for
Speaker 6: the balls.
Speaker 1: I think we should depart from this subject of conversation
Speaker 1: before it's probably too late to be fair.
Speaker 4: I wanted to did you actually ask you this before?
Speaker 1: But you haven't seen the video, But as Rader Sonya
Speaker 1: was filmed on k Road is outside standing outside of
Speaker 1: of his cars Flash Air Supercar and this dude's yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's a guy just in his grill basically like
Speaker 1: asking to fight him, and I was like, he posted
Speaker 1: a statement after It's like it's actually ridiculous that I
Speaker 1: can't go down to the diary after sparring and get
Speaker 1: a pie, like without someone accosting me. Have you ever
Speaker 1: had anyone like come up to you and I want
Speaker 1: to want to punch punch on or.
Speaker 5: Surprise man, I've like, I've made no enemies. I've made
Speaker 5: no I call myself the nice guy. Yeah, because I
Speaker 5: I make every effort to avert situations like that is he.
Speaker 5: It's probably a little bit different because he uses his
Speaker 5: mouth a lot. Yeah, and like ah, for that reason,
Speaker 5: he's so marketable, you know. But you'll get You'll get
Speaker 5: the kids like that that'll come and yeah, like you said,
Speaker 5: it cost you for just who you are, just to
Speaker 5: to to make a name. You know, I've I've never
Speaker 5: been in a street fight. I've never been in a
Speaker 5: fight outside of the ring. And I like, that's like
Speaker 5: a that's a winning record as far as i'm you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I've never actually.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm really quick to shut those down.
Speaker 3: But I could. I could fight, though I think it's
Speaker 3: not to say I wouldn't win the fight, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think it's madness.
Speaker 6: The guy you watched the video, a guy would have
Speaker 6: got his head knocked off his shoulders, Like, what's the
Speaker 6: fucking what, I don't understand it.
Speaker 5: I've been in camp with is He and I was
Speaker 5: I was in his camp as his main's striking partner
Speaker 5: before he fought Anderson Silva. Now Anderson silver was the reason,
Speaker 5: was one of the leading reasons why I started combat
Speaker 5: sports in the first place. I thought he was also
Speaker 5: like cut holes in my socks and do muay Thai
Speaker 5: on the bag. Yeah, amazing athlete. I was in camp
Speaker 5: with is He as his striking partner, so we would
Speaker 5: we would spar only boxing, obviously, but he would very
Speaker 5: so often the head close close, very very close, you know,
Speaker 5: So he would he would he would let me know
Speaker 5: exactly that there's it's a different range in in in
Speaker 5: the US, in the UFC and mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3: So he would give me a little like calf.
Speaker 5: Kick, like a like a little tap ye every soft
Speaker 5: just to let me know, well, I'm I'm helping him spine,
Speaker 5: so obviously I need to be a little bit more
Speaker 5: aware of like what what he needs from me.
Speaker 4: And I'm doing like an anders and silver impersonation sort
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So that was the first time, I actually
Speaker 5: switched predominantly to southboard because I'm an orthodox fight.
Speaker 3: I'm right handed, basically.
Speaker 5: Using my left hand essentially, it was it was quite difficult,
Speaker 5: but now I do it really well because of like that.
Speaker 5: So I would be sparring him, real competitive and stuff,
Speaker 5: but every so often he would remind me that he's
Speaker 5: got like six to eight different weapons that he could
Speaker 5: use against me, you know. So I'd back him into
Speaker 5: the corner double jab right hand. Whether I landed or not,
Speaker 5: he'd pulled me into it like a Muayti clinch, and
Speaker 5: I'd see my life flash before would come up this
Speaker 5: close to my face and it was like it was beautiful,
Speaker 5: but I'd I'd come back up like I've just seen
Speaker 5: a ghost, you know.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Ah, that's that's a street.
Speaker 5: Fight, you know, that's that's that's how dangerous that guy
Speaker 5: is in a street fight. That that bloke I haven't
Speaker 5: I haven't seen the video yet, but that bloke has
Speaker 5: no business starting and that with a guy like he
Speaker 5: is the assault of the earth Man.
Speaker 3: He's that.
Speaker 5: He's one of the nicest guys you'll meet, and just
Speaker 5: disappointing that people have that kind of mentality around here,
Speaker 5: or like it's it's that weird tool poppies and the
Speaker 5: other thing we talked about crabs in a bucket. They
Speaker 5: all in a drag when I was down, and it's
Speaker 5: like why don't ye, why don't we pay more attention
Speaker 5: to you know that our when is we we got
Speaker 5: the most gold medals at the per capita, like we've
Speaker 5: got we've got everything going for us. We just need
Speaker 5: to we just need to keep recognizing those athletes because
Speaker 5: they're they're they're leaving the charge. He's one of the
Speaker 5: most famous UFC fighters in history because he's got that
Speaker 5: mouth and because he because he speaks his mind, because
Speaker 5: he's he's.
Speaker 3: That fluent in the ring and out of the ring, that.
Speaker 5: We should be applauding him and we should be like,
Speaker 5: you know, building him up, you know, but like people
Speaker 5: are so quick to kind of tear those guys down
Speaker 5: because it's like.
Speaker 3: You don't represent me, you represent our country man. That's
Speaker 3: what we're doing.
Speaker 6: Looking at that, I don't think people are going to
Speaker 6: be judging is he after that, I think they'll be
Speaker 6: going to go And that guy is the biggest penis
Speaker 6: to walk the planet, Like he you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I was like, I actually felt embarrassed guy watching it.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, dude, a fuck, come on man, because.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have he wouldn't have gotten anything out as
Speaker 3: you would.
Speaker 1: He just walk away, Yeah, fingers car and walked off.
Speaker 4: Kind of got into his supercar.
Speaker 1: It's to get in his busted piece of shick because
Speaker 1: there's no win there is he like if he sparks
Speaker 1: his dude out, then what I don't know, it doesn't Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: would you ever consider UFC?
Speaker 5: I used to and really like, yeah, not anymore right
Speaker 5: up until you saw is he? Yeah? Right until I
Speaker 5: saw my life flash Wise was like this is like
Speaker 5: my uh, it's like a past life I've lived.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah that it wasn't for me.
Speaker 3: Then it's not for me now yeah.
Speaker 1: So what's the looking at this? So you're on the
Speaker 1: road to the title Now that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Joseph Parker's come on as a promoter. What what does
Speaker 1: that mean for Joseph? Like what what is he actually
Speaker 1: doing as a as a promoter?
Speaker 5: And it's it's a it's a career after boxing. A
Speaker 5: lot of boxes don't have any anything in mind once
Speaker 5: they finished boxing. Tyson Fury is one of those guys
Speaker 5: that needs boxing, you know, like needs boxing for his
Speaker 5: for his sanity, you know. So Joseph, Joseph's a smart
Speaker 5: guy and he's he's planning seeds for down the line,
Speaker 5: and and I think he's gonna be a great promoter.
Speaker 5: So I'm blessed to have him in my corner because
Speaker 5: he's he's at the height of his career right now.
Speaker 5: You know, he's come up, he dipped back down and
Speaker 5: he's back on the rise, you know. So, uh, amazing
Speaker 5: timing for me to to have the likes of him
Speaker 5: in my corner and backing me.
Speaker 3: Do co events Thornberry Promotions, my coach, NORL. Thornbury.
Speaker 5: We've got Manuka Doctor on board as the as the
Speaker 5: naming right sponsor. We've got The Zone, I guess the
Speaker 5: first the first card New Zealand that the Zone is
Speaker 5: backing and they've and they've they've agreed to a multi
Speaker 5: fight deal where we can keep putting his on the
Speaker 5: Zone dot com.
Speaker 3: It's it's more download. It's like so it's an app.
Speaker 5: So that they've gone they've gone digital, like you can
Speaker 5: get it in any country.
Speaker 3: There's a subscription all there are pay per views like.
Speaker 5: You can you can, it's it's it's it's for our generation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you go on your phone and you download it and
Speaker 5: you start watching.
Speaker 6: So it's D D A Z Y download that.
Speaker 5: Yep, and that will be that will be the only
Speaker 5: place you can watch this fight. And we've got a
Speaker 5: wicked undercar. We've got four heavyweight bouts on before mine
Speaker 5: and there. He was one of my childhood heroes and
Speaker 5: I ended up training with him at fourteen years old.
Speaker 5: I met him down at it was Ringside gym at
Speaker 5: the time. He was my first mentor, and like, what
Speaker 5: a great example of a guy, you know.
Speaker 4: He he ah.
Speaker 5: He kind of directed me in the right direction. I
Speaker 5: know there are a lot of rugby players that might
Speaker 5: not leave great accounts of themselves. Liam Liam was the
Speaker 5: right guy for me, like because he always pointed me
Speaker 5: in the right direction. I remember going I was in
Speaker 5: his corner for his first corporate fight. I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was in his corner and I remember he had
Speaker 5: he had per dims and he said, all right, Dave,
Speaker 5: I'm going to teach you how to eat. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: give you all my per dms on on the only
Speaker 5: condition is you have to spend it on food.
Speaker 3: And so I'm I'm like.
Speaker 5: A like a fifty kilo kid, like, yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 5: do we do that? And he took me around to
Speaker 5: all his different spots and man, we ate, all right,
Speaker 5: I've doubled my weight since then.
Speaker 4: Was one of them?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, very healthy, all healthy.
Speaker 5: Like steaks and sushi and yeah, the Japanese cuisine and
Speaker 5: like Asian fusion.
Speaker 3: Beautiful man.
Speaker 4: And then he's who's he fighting?
Speaker 3: Is it Jordan Simmy? Yeah, I don't know much about him.
Speaker 3: Was he an influencer?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well yeah, what is he just influence?
Speaker 3: He's just talking? Is that?
Speaker 4: Basically?
Speaker 1: He fought Hodges, Justin Hodges and one of the theeah okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I heard that's going to be a
Speaker 3: good fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Heard he can bang too.
Speaker 4: I heard he can bang. I mean he beat Hodges,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some big storyline about how he wanted
Speaker 1: to beat Justin Hodges to prove to his missus that
Speaker 1: he could get her back, and he did it. But
Speaker 1: then she's giving him the flicks and oh man, no,
Speaker 1: he's back in the ring. But yeah, four absolute Banks
Speaker 1: are they still tickets available to the to the card itself?
Speaker 4: Can you still get along?
Speaker 5: It's black tie corporate event, and I think there's only
Speaker 5: two tables left us. Yeah right, yeah, ninety tables eighty
Speaker 5: eight sold, which is unreal. So ideally we'll get another
Speaker 5: card before the end of the year, which I'm hoping
Speaker 5: will be in a stadium, you know, so the so
Speaker 5: you're there, yeah, spark, I think thirteen thousand, yeah would
Speaker 5: be amazing. But yeah, live on his own, that's that's
Speaker 5: the place to watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, I think we've been knock the
Speaker 1: sing on the head before you get canceled.
Speaker 6: I've got one more. I've got one more thing. Every
Speaker 6: gifts that comes on here we do twenty two and two,
Speaker 6: which is twenty two quick fire questions straight off in
Speaker 6: two minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm really bad at these days. No, I have a
Speaker 3: logical mind.
Speaker 4: See yeah, it's just it's just one or the other.
Speaker 6: Go with your hat, okay, So, David Nikki, this is
Speaker 6: you're twenty two and two.
Speaker 4: Coffee or tea, coffee or drugs? Six hard or fast.
Speaker 3: Fast?
Speaker 6: Would you rather wake up nude next to Mike Tyson
Speaker 6: or George Foreman?
Speaker 3: Oh, George Foreman.
Speaker 6: Tie or Indian ty eat out or dine in.
Speaker 3: Dining?
Speaker 6: Freddy Mercury or Elton John Freddie Mercury, wet or dry?
Speaker 6: Dry dogs or cats dogs? Trevor Kelse or Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: I don't really know either of them. I'll say Taler Swift.
Speaker 6: I know Floyd Mayweather, Conor McGregor, and Evander Holyfield. Who's
Speaker 6: got the biggest downstairs? What boxing legend would you bring
Speaker 6: back from.
Speaker 4: The dead.
Speaker 3: Man Sugar A. Robinson?
Speaker 6: If the ceremony to bring back sugar Ay Robinson resulted
Speaker 6: in you talking like Mike Tyson for the rest of
Speaker 6: your life, would you still do itne?
Speaker 4: Have you ever fighted again?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Have you ever killed anything bigger than an insect?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: Who is the most famous person you've met?
Speaker 3: Lenox Lewis?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, some Fury is pretty famous?
Speaker 3: Fury?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: If you had a reoccurring dream that a snowman killed
Speaker 6: himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Say
Speaker 6: that again, If you had a reoccurring nightmare that a
Speaker 6: snowman killed himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Uh?
Speaker 3: No, I think that would be hilarious.
Speaker 6: If you were offered a knighthood, would you accept it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: What age do you think people say they've had a
Speaker 6: fall instead of falling down.
Speaker 4: Sixty five?
Speaker 6: Have you ever screamed google me, motherfucker?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: If you if you were to get a statue made
Speaker 6: of yourself, what pose would it be and where would
Speaker 6: you put the statue?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: An example of this is we we asked Tim Saudi,
Speaker 6: cricketer Tim Saudi, what do you do? And he said
Speaker 6: he would be writing a stallion with that rearing up
Speaker 6: with its genitalia facing the door, and he'd put it
Speaker 6: on Daniel for Torre's front lawn.
Speaker 3: What no way mine would be?
Speaker 5: Mine would be like, uh, okay, it'll be It'll be
Speaker 5: Roughiki holding up Simba be me holding my chicken.
Speaker 4: Chicken. Nice.
Speaker 6: No, that's the that's the twenty twe twenty two and two.
Speaker 6: Thanks very much, there's a wicked Cheers guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Mat and go well next weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll be there ringside to cheer you on.
Speaker 6: You're a great and you're a great New Zealander and
Speaker 6: thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3: Cheers man, Thank you guys.
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