1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Here's something interesting. Apparently, according to this wellness data that's 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: just out from Stats New Zealand, those of us here 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: in New Zealand are pretty satisfied with our lives. The 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: overall satisfaction rating that we've given is seven point six 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: out of ten, which actually isn't that different to twenty 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: eleven or twenty twenty one, sorry, which was you know, 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: you remember COVID times. We were actually feeling pretty good 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: at that stage. The rest of the world was dying 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and we weren't. Google Sutherland is a clinical psychologist. Hey, Google, Hey, 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: are you that nice to speak to you? It's good 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: to talk to you too. Now, are you surprised that 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: our well being and happiness is holding up so well 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: given how gloomy we are at the moment in general? 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Look I was awe But then when I dug 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: into the stats, it was like, oh, no, that does 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: seem to be reflective of the kind of general temperature 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: of society at the moment, you know. But yeah, I 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: guess perhaps it was more positive than what you might 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: be believed to see if you're wandering around the streets 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: of Wellington. 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: So is it possible that what this says is we 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: are actually happy in general with our lives and our 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: lifestyle and the country. We know we've got it good. 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: It's just that we're unhappy and we're gloomy about the 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: trajectory of the country, like the economy and the health 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: system and so on. 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Look, it could be. I mean another interpretation is that 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: we you know, we're sort of sitting there or thereabouts 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: most of the time, and that at particular points of 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: time we worry about certain things, like I'm sure in 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one we're all worried about COVID, and now 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, we're worried about the economy and a bit 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: about crime and a bit about healthcare. So maybe this 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: is just generally how it is, and that there's always 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: something to worry about, if that makes sense. 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: What do you make though of the decline of trust 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: in a bunch of institutions and in particular in Parliament, 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: which has fallen quite quite a lot. 39 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, that saddens me a bit, but doesn't surprise me. 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: I think we've seen trust levels and a lot of 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: those institutions slipping, particularly around the media in Parliament, and 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: I think it reflects a bit more of a general 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: distrust that people seem to be having with, you know, 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: with the general institutions of life. People's trust seems to 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: have been eroded over the past few years. 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: That seems to be like something quite big that needs 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: to be addressed, don't you. 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Think I do? I do? I think so. I think 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: I think we're If we're talking about some of the 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: key kind of institutions of our society, police, government, media, 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: then it's I think it's important that people do have 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: trust and faith in those and if we don't, then 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: we need to look at how do we win that 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: trust back and how do we not convince people? Because 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: I think I don't think convincing people would work, But 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: how do we how do we prove to people it's 57 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: maybe a better way of doing it that those institutions 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: are actually important and trustworthy. 59 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Where would you put yourself out of ten. 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: I would put myself at about six point five. I 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: think I'm in Wellington. Yeah, yeah, so it's I'm not 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: singing from the from the roof, but I'm not completely 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: down on the dumps either. But it does feel a 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: bit a bit doomy and gloomy here, at least in Wellington. 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Is this I mean to be fair to you. You 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: have just come through a Wellington winter, and I mean 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: that is a rough time, isn't it. 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but nobody chooses to live here because of 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: the weather, that we take that as a given that 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: it's never going to be that great. But you do 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: touch on an interesting thing is you know often our 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: mood does drop a little bit during winter, and then 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, in spring we pop up again. And I 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: noticed that myself in the past couple of weeks, just 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: standing out on a balcony, going, oh, actually the sun's 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: coming up and there's blossom out and it kind of 77 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: feels spring light and there's more light around. So I 78 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: don't think we should neglect the fact that the environment 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: has a bit of an impact on it. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Do you take vitamin D to get you through the winter? 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I do not know why not. I never thought of it, 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: to be honest, I don't feel like I've got a 83 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: I haven't tested it, but I don't feel like I've 84 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: got a vitamin D deficiency. But I do try and 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: get out. I try and get out in the morning 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: and at least three or four times during the week 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: in daylight during winter, just to get that that SODAD 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: in again. 89 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well good for you, Okay, Google, thank you Google, 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Suther and clinical psychologist, I think Google needs to take 91 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: vitamin D. I reckon he'd go from a six point 92 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: five to a solid eight point five if he's taking 93 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: the vitamin D. The reason I'm saying this is because 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: my mum said to me the other day. She was like, 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what she was reading, probably some conspiracy 96 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: website or something again, and she's said in so much 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: trouble anyway, So she said to me, she said, do 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: you know what Heather, she said, I read the other 99 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: day that if you grew up in a place where 100 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: you had lots of sunshine and now you don't have 101 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: as much sunshine, you should take victimin D because it's 102 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: very odd for you. And we grew I grew up 103 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: in a place actually instinctly where she grew up as well, 104 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: where I think we maybe got like three or four 105 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: rainy days a year, like it was a semid is 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: it right? So there's a hell of a lot of sunshine. 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, I decided, well, you know, it's very hard 108 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: to replace that kind of level of sunshine or started 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: taking the vitamin D. Game changer, absolute game changer, hasn't 110 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: it been? 111 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Laura? 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Last two weeks, I've just been so excited, haven't I 113 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: haven't I? Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah, I just 114 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: took the Vitamin D. They just go down to your pharmacy, 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: get some Vitamin DSK, completely natural all that. You go, 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Happy days. You'll thank me later if it Google needs it, 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: inn't the It's living in Wellington sixteen past four. For 118 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: talks the'd Be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 120 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio