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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive.

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Speaker 2: Then be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're going

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Speaker 3: to go kluther and Southland to get the latest on

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Speaker 3: the state of emergency and the water running out over there.

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Speaker 3: WARNAKA counselor Quentin Smith on whether they're going to fight

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Speaker 3: the McDonald's again, and Auckland FC coach Steve Corriker on

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Speaker 3: the first home game of the season this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Well, the.

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Speaker 3: New Air New Zealand chief executives wasted no time in

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Speaker 3: getting the begging bowl out aim. He's only been in

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Speaker 3: the job what five days, and Nicol Ravashank has already

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Speaker 3: said that he wants government subsidies for regional Air New

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Speaker 3: Zealand roots that are struggling to make money. He's calling

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Speaker 3: these things situational subsidies, meaning they're not permanent. They'd only

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Speaker 3: be brought in on specific routes when the economy is

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Speaker 3: tough and when ticket sales collapse. And he's not just

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Speaker 3: spitballing he's actually planning to talk to the government about it,

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Speaker 3: or maybe he is actually just spitballing or what they

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Speaker 3: in politics call flying a kite testing an idea because

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Speaker 3: he must know this is going to be met with

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Speaker 3: a two letter word by this government. No. A because

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Speaker 3: it's a government which includes the Acts Party, which is

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Speaker 3: opposed to throwing money at commercial businesses that should be

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Speaker 3: able to stand on their own two feet. And b

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Speaker 3: because the country is broke there is no money. We'd

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Speaker 3: have to borrow money to give to a New Zealand

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Speaker 3: so it can keep flying its planes. No thanks, in

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Speaker 3: which case, why is he asking this If he knows

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Speaker 3: when he shuts a regional route down, and that has

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Speaker 3: that air New Zealand wants to shut down. So maybe

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Speaker 3: getting out the begging bowl really early on means that

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Speaker 3: when he does finally shut down a route, we know

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Speaker 3: he's gone to the government, so we blame the government.

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Speaker 3: We don't blame in New Zealand for it. Now. I

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Speaker 3: hope that's rategy doesn't work. I hope we don't fall

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Speaker 3: to bail out every underperforming listed company every time they

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised that a brand new boss wants to kick

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Speaker 2: Heither duplicy Ellen?

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Speaker 3: Is the text understand a text fees applied by the way,

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Speaker 3: on that David Seymour, the very guy who'd be dying

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Speaker 3: to say no to him, is going to be with

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Speaker 3: us after five o'clock to probably say no to him. Now,

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Speaker 3: a leading colo rectal surgeon says, now is a necessity

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Speaker 3: that we established dedicated cancer centers in New Zealand. Christ

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Speaker 3: Church based Frank Frazell has made the argument in an

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Speaker 3: us now. Frank, Hello, Hello Heaven? Would you set up?

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Speaker 3: Am I right in thinking you'd set this up in

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Speaker 4: Yes? I think it opened the nature of New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Bigot thin and Auckland at one end and christ Church

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Speaker 3: Okay, And would these be cancer centers that would be

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Speaker 4: It would be At the moment already a lot of

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Speaker 4: One is that without the centralization, you end up before

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Speaker 4: The other thing would be it allows a concentration to

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Speaker 3: So tell me how it works at the moment, Frank.

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Speaker 3: If you get cancer and you get sent to Auckland,

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Speaker 3: where do you get sent.

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Speaker 4: means that you're already being selected if somebody's got something

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Speaker 3: But are we then suggesting that we take all the

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Speaker 4: No, not at all. This is a hub and spoke model,

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Speaker 3: But aren't we already concentrating all the all the all

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. It would depends where Auckland's already

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I can see the merits of this. Frank,

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Speaker 3: That is Frank Frazel, Professor. By the way, Frank Frazel,

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Speaker 3: Every single tree has been knocked over, like there is

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Speaker 3: well check an after five o'clock on the State of Emergency.

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Speaker 3: Here the Facebook is Marcus Lush's Facebook page and it's

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Speaker 3: That's right, Thank you for that. Thanks for clearing that up. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I've got to talk to you about Dame Knowles. I've

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Speaker 3: I've had it confirmed now by three different sources and

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Speaker 3: they are very good sources. Dame Knowles is not going

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Speaker 3: to be sacked. Dame Knowles is going to get her

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Speaker 3: bring her back. They've been going down the path of

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Speaker 3: It's not been easy, but I'm told it's in the

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Speaker 3: Knowles gets her job back, you heard it here first.

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Speaker 3: alibm oh here, question those Is it a smart move

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Speaker 3: for Dame Knowles to come back.

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Speaker 5: I think it is. Look she retains high level of

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Speaker 5: public support. Sounds like she retained support inside the team,

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Speaker 5: not necessarily the whole team, And I think she wants

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Speaker 5: it's a feeling that she doesn't want to walk out

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Speaker 5: and see the team through. They've got a couple of

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Speaker 5: big events coming up. They've got the Commonwealth Games next

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty seven that are on the horizon. So

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Speaker 5: sounds like she wants to to come back. I remember

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Speaker 5: only it was only a year ago that she basically

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Speaker 3: You sure, yeah, but think about the circumstances she's coming

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Speaker 3: now with her bosses, and if we have to be

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Speaker 3: No, fair enough, Elliott. It's lovely to have you in

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Speaker 3: Heither. So do the players who wanted Dame Knowles to

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: News Talks they'd be.

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Speaker 3: He is coming, please don't right, Gambers and standing by.

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Speaker 3: And finally, Tom Hanks has managed to go almost completely

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Speaker 8: No one says booty.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Dantin's and US correspondent with US Hello Dan, Hello Heather

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Speaker 3: oh Man, how's this news gone down? About the NBA?

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Speaker 10: Boy, this is like a made for TV movie. I mean,

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Speaker 10: And then the mafia allegedly used this technology like contact

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Speaker 10: I mean it really, I can guarantee you that somebody

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Speaker 3: And how did the contact lenses work.

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Speaker 10: These contact lenses are able to see with the cards.

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Speaker 2: Jaz.

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Speaker 3: That's full on. And they weren't like they were cheating

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Speaker 3: Ah Okay. Now Donald Trump doesn't sound like he's shy

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Speaker 10: you know, and a show piece.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

443
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Speaker 10: They're able to fly in and able to detect things

444
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Speaker 10: on the ground without being detected themselves.

445
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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not so much about dropping the bombs.

446
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Speaker 3: It's actually about just watching what's going on.

447
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Speaker 10: Well it is, yeah, but you know what, those things

448
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Speaker 10: can also drop bombs as well too, So I mean

449
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Speaker 10: they've got, you know, several things that they can do

450
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Speaker 10: in several reasons, obviously that he's probably sending them over there.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 3: Now, listen, why the shock about the destruction of the

453
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Speaker 3: East Wing because I thought that this was always what

454
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Speaker 3: was going to happen.

455
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Speaker 10: Well, I mean it's you have to go through certain

456
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Speaker 10: hoops to do something like this. For instance, you're supposed

457
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Speaker 10: to get the approval of the National Trust for Historic Preservation,

458
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Speaker 10: and they were saying, hold on for a second, before

459
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Speaker 10: you demolish this thing, we need to go through the

460
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Speaker 10: planning purposes. There is a public review process which the

461
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Speaker 10: President did not go through and then you've got the

462
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Speaker 10: price tag, which is gone up by one hundred million dollars.

463
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Speaker 10: This is all going to cost three hundred million dollars.

464
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Speaker 10: They're going to redo the ballroom and they're going to

465
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Speaker 10: expand it. This is going to be bigger than the

466
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Speaker 10: actual White House. They're going to make a bunker underneath it.

467
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Speaker 10: They're going to redo the east wing in the office

468
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Speaker 10: of the First Lady. And the President says, we're going

469
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Speaker 10: to modernize this. We need to, and with some of

470
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Speaker 10: these things haven't been modernized since I think World War Two.

471
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Speaker 10: But the thing is, it's a price tag, and it's

472
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Speaker 10: a part of history that he just demolished without going

473
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Speaker 10: through the proper steps. And like he said, this is

474
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Speaker 10: in tax payer money.

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Speaker 2: He's at all.

476
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Speaker 10: This is private donations and private donors. But I mean,

477
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Speaker 10: it's still the people's house. When you do something like this,

478
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Speaker 10: it just feels a little less like the people's house.

479
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Speaker 3: I think I see what you were saying. Hey, thank

480
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Speaker 3: you very much, Dan, appreciate it. Dan Mitchenson, US correspondent.

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Speaker 3: It's nineteen away.

482
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Speaker 2: From five either dup c Ellen hither.

483
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Speaker 3: I'm starting to like Trump. Jaz See. I have to

484
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Speaker 3: be and the reason Mas is liking Trump is because

485
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Speaker 3: Trump is blowing drug smugglers out of the water. I've

486
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Speaker 3: got to be honest with you, I remain and I've

487
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Speaker 3: sat on the fence on this. I'm I'm divided on this,

488
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Speaker 3: as I have been all week, because I really believe

489
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Speaker 3: that you have to have natural justice. But jeez, I've

490
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Speaker 3: had a bloody guts full, haven't you, of drugs drug peddlers,

491
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Speaker 3: So I'm divided. I'm in two minds about it. Hither

492
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Speaker 3: the Timaru to Wellington flight will be the first flight

493
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Speaker 3: to be cut, which will directly affect James Meagher, which

494
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Speaker 3: is actually a fair point. And I have heard this

495
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Speaker 3: because James Meager is the local the local MP there,

496
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Speaker 3: so you know he's in char He's supposed to be

497
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Speaker 3: saving the aviation and then his aviation's the first one cut,

498
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Speaker 3: so it's not going to go down well for him. Warnica,

499
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about Wanica. McDonald's is

500
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Speaker 3: coming back. I remember McDonald's. McDonald's tried and Warnica rebuffed them,

501
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Speaker 3: and it was it was just such a kerfuffle. Warica

502
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Speaker 3: saying no to McDonald's. Well, McDonald's is not going to

503
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Speaker 3: be dissuaded that easily. McDonald's has put a new application

504
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Speaker 3: and it's going to be in a different location, which

505
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Speaker 3: is a more industrial part of town, and it sounds

506
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Speaker 3: like it's going to be part of like a complex

507
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Speaker 3: of other food outlets, possibly including a pizza hut or

508
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Speaker 3: something of the sort. Anyway, I'm quite keen to see

509
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Speaker 3: how Warnick is going to take this because it's a

510
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Speaker 3: better space. It's a better space, but it's still McDonald's,

511
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Speaker 3: which they hate. So anyway, we'll talk to one of

512
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Speaker 3: the counselors, Quentin Smith, who's going to be at us

513
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Speaker 3: after five o'clock. Can I tell you something that happened

514
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Speaker 3: to me today. I was excited. It's a nostalgic thing.

515
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Speaker 3: I opened the news and I said, oh, look to

516
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Speaker 3: the office, I said, oh look, Rainbow's End has brought

517
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Speaker 3: the pirate ship back and they did their first sailing

518
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Speaker 3: this morning. And it's exciting because it's higher than the

519
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Speaker 3: old one and seventeen years old. The old one felt

520
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Speaker 3: like it was quite high to me, so this is

521
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Speaker 3: going to be And then the German pipes up and

522
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Speaker 3: she goes, oh yeah, Rainbow's End invited us to go

523
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Speaker 3: and ride the first ride this morning, actually, but I

524
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Speaker 3: said no because it was at eight am. And how

525
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Speaker 3: did you feel about that? Ants, I would have quite

526
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Speaker 3: happily gotten up as early as I had to and

527
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Speaker 3: got the bus up. I was up at six. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 3: I was up at six because the children were up,

529
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Speaker 3: and look, I was looking for things to do for

530
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Speaker 3: about three hours this morning before before the Kendy drop off.

531
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Speaker 3: Fair to say that the German is not the employee

532
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Speaker 3: of the day with the team. Literally everybody around her

533
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Speaker 3: just looked at her and was like, yeah, okay, fine,

534
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Speaker 3: call your German. Because in Germany they probably have like

535
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Speaker 3: amusement parks up the wazoo and a pirate ship's not

536
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Speaker 3: a big deal for them, but we have one in

537
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Speaker 3: the whole country, Laura. And they said we could have

538
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Speaker 3: a free ride at eight this morning and you said no,

539
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Speaker 3: So not not cool. And if you're looking for a

540
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Speaker 3: German employee, I've got somebody I could recommend sixteen away

541
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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: For politics with centric credit, check your customers and get

543
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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

544
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Speaker 3: If we get a chance before five o'clock. We need

545
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Speaker 3: to talk about this Brenton Tarrant stuff that's kicking off

546
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Speaker 3: at the moments thirteen away from five had Barry Sober,

547
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Speaker 3: senior political correspondence with US. Hello, Barry, good afternoon. Okay,

548
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Speaker 3: state of emergency for Southland.

549
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Speaker 6: Yeah, incredible my home province. Of course, essentially the Minister

550
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Speaker 6: Mark Mitchell had to make this declaration given that the

551
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Speaker 6: mayors down there haven't been sworn in yet, so they'd

552
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Speaker 6: normally do this sort of thing, but he stepped in

553
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Speaker 6: to do it. It's incredible when you listen to the

554
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Speaker 6: reports from the region. I mean there's now states of

555
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Speaker 6: emergency in Kluth of Southland and Canterbury after those violent

556
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: winds swept through yesterday. More than four thousand homes remain

557
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Speaker 6: without power and Otago and fifty four streets without power

558
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Speaker 6: and Handmahs Springs. Now Hannah Springs apparently was the worst hit,

559
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Speaker 6: with a local saying that it's basically me destroyed by

560
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Speaker 6: winds exceeding two one hundred and thirty kilometers. Now, well,

561
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Speaker 6: you know, we thought we knew winds and Wellington when

562
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Speaker 6: I lived there, but there's nothing like two undred and

563
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Speaker 6: thirty kilometer in our winds. Ye, So yes, it must

564
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Speaker 6: be devastating for the people down there and my thoughts

565
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Speaker 6: really with them.

566
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Speaker 3: Now looks like Mark Mitchell stepping into the netball saga

567
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Speaker 3: at the start of the week has sped things up.

568
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Speaker 6: Well most certainly. I think a decision on Nolen Tourou is.

569
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Speaker 4: Imminent.

570
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Speaker 6: It's going to be made fairly soon. Not today, I

571
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Speaker 6: think probably next week now. But I think you can

572
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Speaker 6: definitely say that you'll be reinstated. Now what that means

573
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Speaker 6: for the people that remain there, And it's incredible, And

574
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Speaker 6: you think that we're talking about netball in this way

575
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Speaker 6: and the treatment of one person. If it was the

576
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Speaker 6: all Black coach, I wonder if it would be the

577
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Speaker 6: same if somebody said to me and it was the same, Well,

578
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Speaker 6: somebody said to me, very much involved in sport, that

579
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Speaker 6: look if Scott Robinson had had the same record as

580
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Speaker 6: Dame Nolen Toru has had in recent years there, and.

581
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Speaker 2: He would no longer be in the job.

582
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Speaker 6: Saying that, well, there are both. There are two sides

583
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Speaker 6: to the story, it would seem. But the overwhelming impression

584
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Speaker 6: that I get anyway is that you will be reinstated.

585
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Speaker 3: Can I just put to you though, that that argument

586
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: is slightly revisionist because she has not been She has

587
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Speaker 3: not found herself in the position that she is because

588
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Speaker 3: of her track record and winning games. She has found

589
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Speaker 3: herself in the position that she is because a bunch

590
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: of players complained about her. People who are now going

591
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Speaker 3: around going, oh, yeah, but she's not that great as

592
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Speaker 3: a code are trying to trying to sort of revise

593
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Speaker 3: what actions. Well, maybe, I mean, that's maybe a fair argument,

594
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Speaker 3: but this is not about her track record as a coach.

595
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Speaker 3: This is about her treatment as a human being. And

596
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Speaker 3: even when I would say, sorry, now you've got this,

597
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: the electure will continue. Even when Fozzy when we were

598
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: many of us, including myself, wanted to see Fozzy out

599
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Speaker 3: of the job, and I did not think Fozzy was

600
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Speaker 3: good enough to be the coach. When when Mark Robinson

601
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Speaker 3: treated him the way that he did, I objected to that.

602
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Speaker 3: I think most people are fair minded and will go

603
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Speaker 3: don't matter how bad you are at your job, you

604
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Speaker 3: still need to be you still need to be treated fairly,

605
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Speaker 3: don't you.

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Speaker 6: Well, no doubt about it. I mean, you know, the

607
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Speaker 6: claim was made fully early on in this that if

608
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Speaker 6: a coach can be treated this way because a few

609
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 6: players are unhappy with him or her, then what future

610
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Speaker 6: for coaches.

611
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Speaker 3: In this country going to feel about losing that debate.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it'd be too worried. I mean it's

613
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Speaker 6: it's a bit of a lighthearted debate. And he went

614
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Speaker 6: in there arguing that the courts undermined democracy and he

615
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 6: lost by a phiry substantial margin. And that was overnight

616
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Speaker 6: in New Zealand time. But look when you look at

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Speaker 6: the other there's we've had two wins and two losses

618
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Speaker 6: from politicians since David Longhi has gone there. I mean

619
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Speaker 6: David Seymour won his argument when he was there. No sorry,

620
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Speaker 6: he lost yack in the argument.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That'll probably annoy Winston more than anything else. That Willie

623
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Speaker 6: Jackson actually won the argument, so did David Longe. You

624
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Speaker 6: remember that there's been a long gap between drinks. When

625
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: you look at it was David Longi and the next

626
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Speaker 6: one to speak there was David Seymour. I think so

627
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: many many years went by, but David Longie, really I

628
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: remember it well, made a wonderful speech and when somebody interjected,

629
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Speaker 6: I can smell the uranium on your breath. I mean

630
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Speaker 6: everybody remembers that line. Now that's sort of become a

631
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Speaker 6: mortal for the Oxford Union. I don't think anybody took

632
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Speaker 6: much donus of the Oxford Union before David Longing took.

633
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Speaker 3: Part of certainly not in New Zealand. Berry, thanks very much.

634
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: Barry Soper, senior political correspondent. Will wrap the political political

635
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: week that was with you after six o'clock. Right, let's

636
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Speaker 3: get to Brenton Tarrant next eight away from.

637
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Speaker 2: Five the headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic

638
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: asking breakfast.

639
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Speaker 3: When I read the headline this morning, a defining moment

640
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: in our history?

641
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Speaker 11: Is it? I don't see it that way at all,

642
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 11: I said, as a moment where accumulated frustration was expressed.

643
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 11: Those messages have been sent many times. We've heard them.

644
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 11: It doesn't solve anything. Getting back and finding our way

645
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 11: forward is the only way to get through this, and

646
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 11: we both parties have to be able to do it.

647
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 11: We've actually achieved settlements, so we.

648
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Speaker 2: Know that we can do it.

649
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Speaker 11: We just need the unions to see it the same way.

650
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Speaker 11: We need to make trade offs. I've made significant trade offs.

651
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 11: They need to come to the party and be prepared

652
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Speaker 11: to make trade offs. I have not seen that yet.

653
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Speaker 3: Back Tuesday from six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with

654
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Speaker 3: a Vida News Talk ZB Heather, the Dame Noles situation

655
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: has been badly handled by Netball New Zealand. It's not

656
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Speaker 3: tenable for her to return. She should get a good

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Speaker 3: payout and the CEO should be dismissed. Hugh, you've obviously

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Speaker 3: missed the news. I'm telling you she's getting her job back,

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Speaker 3: possibly as early as next week. We've got it from

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Speaker 3: pretty good sources, so you know, yeah, for Dame Knowles. Listen,

661
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Speaker 3: a friend of mine just sent me a message and

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Speaker 3: said it's a good day to be a New Zealander

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Speaker 3: because melatonin is now for sale on the show. Now,

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Speaker 3: I thought color be naive, but I thought the malatonin

665
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Speaker 3: was already for sale because this thing was announced in June.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently, but there's been a stuff up and

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Speaker 3: it's now for SALESA go and get your grubby little

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Speaker 3: hands on some malatonin and have a good night's sleep tonight.

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Speaker 3: In fact, David sewought that Malatonin King is with us shortly,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna ask him about that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Look on the Brenton Tarrant thing, I might be naive,

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Speaker 3: but I cannot understand why there is this outrage over

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Speaker 3: the decision to let him give evidence at the christ

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Speaker 3: Church Mosk attack coronial in quest. This has been so

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Speaker 3: vexed for the last wee while that it had to

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Speaker 3: go to the High Court to basically stop him giving evidence.

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Speaker 3: They have now had to overrule the Judicial Will also

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Speaker 3: know to the judicial review application and say yes he's

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Speaker 3: allowed to give evidence, and he will now give evidence. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why we don't want to hear from

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Speaker 3: this guy. I mean, like, there is no doubt he's

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Speaker 3: a crap version of human right, it's not a good

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Speaker 3: human being there. But surely despite that, he is the

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Speaker 3: most valuable person to hear from in order to answer

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Speaker 3: some of the questions that we may have, right, because

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how much information we stitch together, we

688
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Speaker 3: can't know everything, and with even asking him, we still

689
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Speaker 3: won't know everything, but he will be able to fill

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Speaker 3: in some blanks. I'm assuming that he wants to be

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Speaker 3: helpful here. By the way, there's no certainty about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who might get on the stand and just

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Speaker 3: be a dick, which is you know, a very strong possibility.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, for example, I want to know how

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Speaker 3: he got to have a gun license when he is,

696
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Speaker 3: you know, posting all this stuff online that should have

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Speaker 3: disqualified him immediately. How did he not get vetted? Maybe

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Speaker 3: he can answer some questions about that. How is it

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Speaker 3: that he went completely undetected by our security services when

700
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Speaker 3: he's posting all this stuff online? How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: I mean, surely he'll be able to fill in a

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Speaker 3: few blanks here.

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Speaker 2: So I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't. I am perplexed as to

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Speaker 3: why we wouldn't want to have these questions asked answered

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Speaker 3: by him anyway. John Battersby, who is a terrorism expert,

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Speaker 3: completely disagrees with me and says there's absolutely nothing valuable

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Speaker 3: we can learn from him. We're going to have a

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Speaker 3: chat to him after six o'clock. This is John Battersby.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned for that. But next up, David Seymour on

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand's brand new CEO out with the B

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Speaker 3: and Bowl. Within what one week of being in the job,

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Speaker 3: news talks it be questions your life have kissed ill anyway?

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Speaker 2: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather duper.

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Speaker 1: Cland drive with One New Zealand to coverage like no

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Speaker 1: one else news talks it be that afternoon.

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Speaker 3: A state of emergency is in place with Canterbury, Cluther

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Speaker 3: and Southland after devastating winds ripped through the South Island.

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Speaker 3: The towns sometimes are running out of water. Thousands of homes,

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Speaker 3: businesses and critical facilities remain without power, and around two

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Speaker 3: hundred dairy farms can't milk their cows because of the

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Speaker 3: power outages. South and Mayor Rob Scott is with us. Now, Hi, Rob, good,

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Speaker 3: how are you very well? Thank you? What's the power

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Speaker 3: situation at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's still out. It's slightly improved from a

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Speaker 12: few hours ago, but on the whole across our big

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Speaker 12: district and region, it's still not that pretty.

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Speaker 3: Have you been given any indication as to when the

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Speaker 3: power will be on.

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Speaker 12: We're in a briefing at the moment with power Net

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Speaker 12: sort of working through. Just to give you a bit

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Speaker 12: of scale, like the southern districts thirty thousand square kilometers,

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Speaker 12: so you can imagine the spread of power lines across that.

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Speaker 12: So they've been up in the air today assessing the damage.

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Speaker 12: That was the force of that storm that head yesterday

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Speaker 12: was actually bigger than socclin and Gabrielle, so give you

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Speaker 12: a bit of an idea of the size and the

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Speaker 12: scale of what we had. So it has done a

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Speaker 12: fair bit of damage, but they're out and about getting

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Speaker 12: it done as soon as possible. I'd love to have

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Speaker 12: the answer. A lot of the community would love to

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Speaker 12: have that answer as well. But yeah, it's not going

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Speaker 12: to be a fast and I think there'll be another

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Speaker 12: night without power for a lot of our communities.

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Speaker 3: Jamie McKay, who hosts The Country, reckons he's never seen

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Speaker 3: anything like it of you.

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Speaker 12: No, No, definitely not that. That wind yesterday was incredible.

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Speaker 12: I've never felt anything like that.

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Speaker 3: What's the situation with water?

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Speaker 13: So water?

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Speaker 12: Obviously, our water treatment plants need power to operate, and

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Speaker 12: because of the size of our district, we've got a

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Speaker 12: number of plants and they're not connected to each other,

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Speaker 12: so they're all kind of independent, and without the electricity,

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Speaker 12: we're having some issues with them running. So we are

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Speaker 12: and we've got three towns at the moment that are struggling.

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Speaker 12: One of them we're even struggling to get a generated

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Speaker 12: at work because when the electricity went out, it blew

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Speaker 12: out some of the circuitry in the plants, so we're

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Speaker 12: getting water tankers out to those towns to supply water

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Speaker 12: to the population, and with the other ones, we're working

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Speaker 12: as fast as we can to keep them going and

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Speaker 12: to get the ones that are running up and running out.

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Speaker 3: Rob, you guys have got some bad weather coming next week.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be able to get everything okay

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Speaker 3: before then?

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Speaker 12: I hope so, yeah, I really hope we can. But

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Speaker 12: obviously it's a bit of a game of hurry up

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Speaker 12: and wait at the moment to get that information about

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Speaker 12: the power, and that's that kind of foundation piece that

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Speaker 12: we need to be able to get everything else, including

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Speaker 12: South phone connections. We've been I live in the middle

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Speaker 12: of the South and driving into the cargo this morning,

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Speaker 12: i'd know south phone reception at all or power across

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Speaker 12: any of the towns coming in for an hour's drive,

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Speaker 12: So that the Comm's piece is quite important to be

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Speaker 12: able to get out to our communities and talk to

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Speaker 12: people as well.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Rob, thanks for your time. Get back into that

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Speaker 3: briefing and see what you can find out this Rob

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Speaker 3: Scott's South lad Mayor.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for see Allen so In, New Zealand's new.

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Speaker 3: Chief executive Nicol Ravishank is only five days into the

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Speaker 3: job and already he's asking for a handout, for a

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Speaker 3: handout for them from the government for regional roots. Here

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Speaker 3: he is on Radio New Zealand.

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Speaker 11: If I can share it as an opinion, I think

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Speaker 11: there is a need for certain routes to have some

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Speaker 11: form of a subsidy, sort of starting to refer to

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Speaker 11: it as a sort of situational subsidy.

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Speaker 3: Now, the situational subsidy would only operate when demand is

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Speaker 3: low because the economy isn't doing so well. Deputy Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister and act Party leader David Seymore's with us.

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Speaker 12: Hi.

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Speaker 3: David, Hey, Heather, you into this idea.

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Speaker 14: No, you know, the government would have to consider this

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Speaker 14: very very carefully, as James Mega, the Associate Transport Minister,

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Speaker 14: is said, but it's one of those things that just

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Speaker 14: raises more questions than it answers. So when the economy

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Speaker 14: is not doing well, how well does they have to

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Speaker 14: be doing, How much does the subsidy have to bring

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Speaker 14: the fares down? How frequent do the roots have to be?

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Speaker 14: All those questions end up being answered by politicians, and

804
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Speaker 14: then you don't have a chief executive running an airline anymore.

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Speaker 14: You have politicians running an airline because they're making the

806
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Speaker 14: pricing and scheduling decisions. And we've been down that track

807
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Speaker 14: in New Zealand was a complete disaster when it was

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Speaker 14: run by politicians. We don't want to go.

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Speaker 4: Back to it.

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Speaker 3: I suspect he's doing this because he knows he's going

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Speaker 3: to have to shut some roots down shortly, and he

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Speaker 3: would rather that you copped the blame for saying no

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Speaker 3: to the subsidy, then he copped the blame for shutting

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Speaker 3: down the roots.

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Speaker 14: What do you think, Well, you could speculate that I

816
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 14: was talking to his predecessor a while back. I said, mate,

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Speaker 14: I got to thank you. He said why, and I said, well,

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Speaker 14: the thing is, I would have missed three flights last

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Speaker 14: week if only they are on time. But actually I

820
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Speaker 14: was absolutely fine. And my advice would be, look, you know,

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Speaker 14: start taking off and landing at the time that you advertise.

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Speaker 14: Work on all your basics of running a business rather

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Speaker 14: than getting into politics, because I don't think politicians trying

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Speaker 14: to run business is a very good idea. You look

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Speaker 14: at most of these politicians never made a dollar of

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Speaker 14: their own money and their life. Why on earth would

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Speaker 14: you give them yours to invest? And I also don't

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Speaker 14: like the idea of business people trying to be politicians,

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Speaker 14: because often they do it for the private interest of

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Speaker 14: their company rather than the wider public interest.

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Speaker 3: Listen, what's this business with malatonin? I've been told that

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Speaker 3: malatonin has been only been allowed for over fifty five

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Speaker 3: year olds until recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 14: We legalized it, which was the right thing to do.

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Speaker 14: It's one of those little changes you can make that

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Speaker 14: makes last a little bit more enjoyable for no cost.

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Speaker 14: And yet Medsafe initially said, look, you know this is

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Speaker 14: only valid if you're over fifty five. I said, that's

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Speaker 14: just completely ridiculous. Medsafe themselves have told us that the

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Speaker 14: danger and side effects of malatonin are comparable to panadole,

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Speaker 14: which you can give to very small children and buy

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Speaker 14: it a supermarket. So you know, we said, go back

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Speaker 14: and sharpen your pencils. I didn't actually realize that they

845
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Speaker 14: had already made the change. I knew they were about to.

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Speaker 14: If they have and it's being sold and anyone over

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Speaker 14: eighteen can get malatonin for jet lag and insomnia, then

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Speaker 14: happy days, Happy Labor weekend for all those who celebrate.

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Speaker 3: Finally we can we can get our hands on it. David,

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Speaker 3: thanks very much, David. Seeing more deply Prime Minister's and

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Speaker 3: that nuts. You can get a politician to change, you

852
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Speaker 3: can vote the politician and get them to do what

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Speaker 3: they say they're going to do, and there'll be some

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Speaker 3: bureaucrat and Wellington who just stuffs around with it. Eight

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Speaker 3: And in this case it's med safe over fifty five's

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Speaker 3: for God's sake, fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Five together dupless for the USO.

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Speaker 3: Right on Brenton Tarrant. Questions around how he got a

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Speaker 3: license for a firearm and why he wasn't investigated when

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Speaker 3: the shooting club rang the police suggesting he was a

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Speaker 3: bit dodgy need to be answered. That's remark. Hither, I

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Speaker 3: completely agree with John Battersby, not with you. We don't

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Speaker 3: need to hear anything from the shooter. He needs to

864
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Speaker 3: rotten hell anyway. John Battersby is with us. After six o'clock,

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Speaker 3: listen to Cardadet has had its funding slash. This is

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Speaker 3: the last Tedel Maori TV news bulletin that's still on air.

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Speaker 3: It's on TV and Z you'll know it's on TV's

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Speaker 3: has been there for the longest time. It had a

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Speaker 3: budget of two point seven seven millions, just been cut

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Speaker 3: down to one million for next year fourteen past So, Heather,

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Speaker 3: what I'm led to understand is that we can get

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Speaker 3: malatonin today and we can sleep through our long weekend.

873
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: That's right, Simon. Look just be honest. How many months

874
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: have you worked? You've worked nine months at least, maybe

875
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: even ten if you've been going since, you know day one.

876
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: You're tired. It's almost eleven months. You're tired. Deserve asleep.

877
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: Haven't slept through the night forever? Go get yourself some

878
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: mallotone and have a nice long weekend. Steve Corricker, the

879
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: Auckland FC coach, is going to be with us in

880
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: about twenty minutes time. Talk us through the kickoff of

881
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: the season this weekend. It's eighteen past five now. McDonald's

882
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: is coming to Wanaca for around two had its resource

883
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: consent application rejected earlier this year, but it's trying again,

884
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: lodged another application to open a site. Quentin Smith is

885
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: a counselor for WONCA and with us now high Quentin.

886
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 15: Get here. You're going there very.

887
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Now this is going to be in

888
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: a different location. It's a more industrial part of town.

889
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: So are you okay with it?

890
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 15: Well, look, it's been an interesting journey for Wonica. I mean,

891
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 15: the primary issue with the previous location was its location

892
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 15: in a rural area and outside of a commercial precinct.

893
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 15: New location is in what they call three Parks, which

894
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 15: is a mixed businesses and commercial residential sort of environment.

895
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 15: In the zone is a mixed business use zone they're

896
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 15: proposing to sit in. So yeah, it's more suitable for

897
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 15: that type of accident.

898
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: Now they're probably going to get permission, aren't they, because

899
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 3: the public aren't going to be notified.

900
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Are they.

901
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, that is the big difference here is that,

902
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 15: like I said, because it was previously in a rural

903
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 15: zone and not didn't have any commercial provision that was

904
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 15: publicly notified and obviously received a lot of attention from

905
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 15: the community. This one is largely complies with the district

906
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 15: plan and I've had a look at the application. There's

907
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 15: only one aspect of noncompliance really, and that has to

908
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 15: do with noise late at nights and an adjoining high

909
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 15: density residential area. So yeah, it's unlikely this will be

910
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 15: publicly notified. It's yet to be determined, but it's unlikely

911
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 15: to be notified, unlikely that the public will get submissioned.

912
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I mean being an industrial part of town

913
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: probably solves some of the issues, but it doesn't solve

914
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: the issue of the rubbish lying around which people have

915
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: complained about, or you know, people getting fat which people

916
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: have complained about. So do you think those people are

917
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: going to be okay about it now?

918
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 15: Well, look, I think there's been a strong resistance in

919
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 15: Monica for the reasons you've mentioned. There's both the health

920
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 15: side of it and the rubbish. And I look at

921
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 15: fair I think that McDonald's does have a strong history

922
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 15: of producing far more litter than many other other businesses.

923
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 15: So I understand that concern. As I said, I just

924
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 15: don't know whether the public will get a formal say

925
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 15: in this, but there will be some resistance, there's no question.

926
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Quentin, thanks very much, Quentin Smith, Queenstown's

927
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: Deputy mayor and the Council of for Warnaka, we're going

928
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: to come back to this. We need to have a

929
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: little chat about this and just to take however, let

930
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 3: me just get you across what's happened with Liam Lawson.

931
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: So Liam Lawson and Yuki Sonoda have had a press

932
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: conference together and it's been kind of awkward. At some points,

933
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: they wouldn't make any eye contact with each other, and

934
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: this is because of all the complaining that Sunoda has

935
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: been doing to the media lie about Liam Lawson. So

936
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: if you don't remember this, this was after the US

937
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: Grand Prix where Sunoda twice accused Lawson of intentionally slowing

938
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: him down or impeding him during practice and qualifying. So

939
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: they were asked about it. This is what Yuki opened

940
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: up by saying, I don't think we have spoken in

941
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: person then Liam, Butson, I don't really know what happened

942
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: in Austin, to be honest.

943
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 16: And then Yuki says this, I ablidg it to the team,

944
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 16: to the guy what I said in especial media.

945
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: It was very unnecessary, and they just don't look at

946
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: each other at all. It's really awkward and weird. My

947
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: theory on it is is that Yuki Sonoda knows that

948
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: he's going to get dropped and so he's being a

949
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: bit bratty. That's what's going on. And they haven't really

950
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: made up at all because they don't have to anymore anyway.

951
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: We'll talk to the sports title about it when they

952
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: were us shortly five twenty one.

953
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Hard questions, strong opinion, pay the duplic ellen drive with

954
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news dogs.

955
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: They'd be uh hither the melatonin has been licensed to

956
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: eighteen year old Oh my gosh, I'm going to die,

957
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: but the current packaging only license to over fifty five

958
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: year old. So yes, it's approoved, but unable to be

959
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: sold without a prescription currently med safe. What are you

960
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: doing to us? This is from Scott Yeah, so any

961
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: that's the weirdest thing, isn't it that you think you

962
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: can only get your hands on They think you can

963
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: only take malatonin if you're over fifty five. What magically

964
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: happens on your fifty fifth birthday to make you suddenly

965
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: okay to withstand the power of melatonin anyway? Five twenty

966
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: four Listen, Can I suggest to Wanica that it may

967
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: just want to give up and accept that McDonald's is

968
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 3: coming to town, because clearly the Golden Arches are not

969
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: going to be put off, right They've been put off

970
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: by one rejection. They're just trying again, and who knows

971
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: if they get rejected from the new site. Maybe they're

972
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: just going to try again and again and again until

973
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 3: they finally give in and or they finally get what

974
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: they're after, And why wouldn't they? I mean, think about

975
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: the business proposition here right There is a population in

976
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Wonaca of somewhere between eight and eighteen thousand depending on

977
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: which estimation you use, who don't have a McDonald's within

978
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: seventy k's of them. And that's not even taking into

979
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: account the winter tourists who absolutely will want the mackids.

980
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: So of course they can gonna try again. McDonald set

981
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: up in Wanica. They have every reason, every dollar to

982
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: keep trying for This is not to say I'm unsympathetic

983
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: to how Wanaka feels about losing its cute little boutique vibe,

984
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: because I think the same thing is happening to the

985
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: part of town where I live. When I was back

986
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: at university, Ponsonby Road was a road of boutiques and

987
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: designers and cool places to eat. Now, Zambezi's been replaced

988
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: by a global active wear brand. Kate Sylvesta has been

989
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: replaced by Assembly label. There's a Dick Juba outlet, a

990
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: subway and a ben and Jerry's on Ponsonby Road. I

991
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: don't love it. I prefer the weird little one off

992
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: eateies to the subway any day of the week. But

993
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: this is how life works. Successful brands will replace less successful, quirky,

994
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: little one off places. They will pop up anywhere where

995
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: there is a collection of people with money. McDonald's is

996
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 3: one of the most successful food brands in the world.

997
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: It is nearby Ponsonby Road. Already it will come to Waraca. Absolutely.

998
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 3: Waraca can't protect its cute vibe forever.

999
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 13: Right.

1000
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: They may defeat McDonald's if they try hard enough, but

1001
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: after that there will be a pizza hut. And after that,

1002
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: who knows what's gonna come. I say to Waranaica, just

1003
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: accept reality. McDonald's is coming to town.

1004
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: Together.

1005
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 17: Do for sea.

1006
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: Allen looks to.

1007
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 3: Me like the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Donald Trump

1008
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: has gotten a new time cover. So remember how he

1009
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: complained about the last time Coveys that are they disappeared

1010
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: my hair? I don't like it was to be fair

1011
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: to him, it was a below shot. Nobody looks good

1012
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: from a blow shot, and he has In this particular

1013
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: below shot he had tied his tie, so he gave

1014
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: himself quite a pronounced turkey neck. Anyway, this time it's

1015
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: much more flattering to him. He's sitting at the desk

1016
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: in the Oval office. He's got his elbows on the desk,

1017
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: he's got his hands under his chin, he's staring down

1018
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: the barrel of the camera, and he will be happy

1019
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: because this time his hair has not been disappeared. I've

1020
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: got to ask it, Laura, have you done the cut?

1021
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: You got it?

1022
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Where is it?

1023
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: Why is it?

1024
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: Laura's telling me, cause I'm getting a lot of texts

1025
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 3: from people who, now, you'll have to I can't see it. Oh, okay, No,

1026
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm getting a lot of texts from people, Okay,

1027
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: hang on, Okay, Laura's got a solutions. I'm getting a

1028
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: lot of texts from people who say David was throwing

1029
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: some shay Chris lux and here it is. Oh, you

1030
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: want me to play it? Okay, hold on, I'll do it.

1031
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 14: I also don't like the idea of business people trying

1032
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 14: to be politicians, because often they do it for the

1033
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 14: private interest of their company rather than the wider public interest.

1034
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: M possible possible. It's within David's character to do something

1035
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: like that also, what a kind of a numpty am

1036
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: eye that I don't even know how to do this

1037
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: stuff anymore, and you want me to play it? Okay? Anyway,

1038
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: talk about Auckland. We've seen next.

1039
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

1040
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: It's hella duplicl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

1041
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: like no one else news talks.

1042
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: They'd be.

1043
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: Heather, are you sure it's pronounced dick tuber? I thought

1044
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: the jay was silent. I have no idea, do you

1045
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: as do you not? No, no, no one, No one knows,

1046
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: no one knows. It's one of those.

1047
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: Dick.

1048
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: I think dick Tuba sounds cooler personally, because of course

1049
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that we've said it on on

1050
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: the radio, and I was going to say national radio.

1051
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't want you for one second to think

1052
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 3: that is what you were listening to and try to

1053
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: switch over to news talk ZB. You are listening to

1054
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: a national radio station, which is not national radio. Anyway.

1055
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: Here's a theory on on Yuki Sonoda, Heather, if he

1056
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: was going to be dropped, there would be no need

1057
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: for him to apologize for what he said, and that

1058
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: is a fair point actually, so we'll get the sports

1059
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: title to sort this out for us. In just a

1060
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: a minute. It's twenty four away from six. Now let's

1061
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: talk about Auckland football because they are kicking off the

1062
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: first home match of the season tomorrow. The club is

1063
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: playing the Western Sydney Warre Wondrous and Steve Coriker is

1064
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: the coach. Hi, Steve, now, I'm very well, thank you.

1065
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about your chances of replicating last

1066
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: year's dream season?

1067
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was an amazing season last last year. You know,

1068
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 16: we didn't make the finals, so obviously there's there's something

1069
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 16: that we can improve on there. But excited this first

1070
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 16: home game of the season. I know it's a long

1071
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 16: weekend and then all the keiwi's go away on these weekends,

1072
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 16: but I'm sure we're going to have a good crowd

1073
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 16: and good support in our first home game. And they're

1074
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 16: a very good team, the Wanderers, and yeah, we're looking

1075
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 16: forward to it.

1076
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1077
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: How are the ticket sales going, because last I heard

1078
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a bummer.

1079
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1080
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 16: I think Nick was saying around fifteen or sixteen thousand,

1081
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 16: which is still a very good crowd, especially like obviously

1082
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 16: with everyone going away on this weekend, so yeah, the

1083
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 16: port's going to be in force as they were last year.

1084
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 16: They're growing all the time, our membership's growing, so yeah,

1085
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Speaker 16: obviously looking forward to that matchup against the Wanderers.

1086
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: Did this happen last year because it feels to me

1087
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: like this is a particularly key we thing to do,

1088
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: Like at the start of a sea, We don't fizz

1089
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: for the start of a season. It sort of arrives

1090
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: before we're ready, and then as it goes on we

1091
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: get more and more excited and start turning up.

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 16: Well, it was our first year last year, so I

1093
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 16: think the first game it might have been different timing

1094
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 16: as well. I think it might have been a week earlier.

1095
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 16: We played at home, so there was a big crowd

1096
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 16: in that game, and it just seemed to grow and grow.

1097
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 16: Obviously the Derby was a couple of games after that.

1098
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 16: We went six games unbeaten, so it just kept, you know,

1099
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 16: snowballing and like to do much the same this year,

1100
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 16: but obviously it's going to be a little bit different.

1101
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 16: I think teams obviously know what we're about this year

1102
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 16: and and how good we really are, and yeah, they

1103
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 16: know where their premier is and you know, obviously play

1104
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 16: play well against us. So it was a tough game

1105
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 16: last week against Melbourne victory matchup of the semi final

1106
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 16: that we did last year, and obviously a draw not

1107
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 16: not too bad away from home. But you know, when

1108
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 16: we're at home against the Wanderers, which I think will

1109
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 16: be a top four team, they you know, we'd like

1110
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 16: to get three points.

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00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm fascinated in the head game that you guys

1112
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: have to go through after last season is what happened

1113
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: last season? Does that give you confidence or does that

1114
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: add pressure to repeat?

1115
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 16: I think it gives the boys confidence because they know

1116
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 16: that they can do it and they can match the

1117
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 16: best teams in Australia, So that's that's great, But it

1118
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 16: does come with expectation as well, and not only from

1119
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 16: the players, but you know the fans as well. You know,

1120
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 16: they expect us to do exactly the same as last year,

1121
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 16: if not better, which is obviously the plan for us

1122
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 16: this year. We want to you know, we want to

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00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 16: actually get into the final and win it. If they

1124
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 16: can do the double, that would be amazing in our

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00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 16: second year. But it's going to take a lot of

1126
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 16: hard work and a lot of sacrifice from these players

1127
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 16: and you know obviously you need to have a little

1128
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 16: bit of luck along the way as well. But yep,

1129
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 16: we'll we'll give it a crack, but yeah, definitely expectation.

1130
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 6: Hey.

1131
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: By the way, congrats on being late named Coach of

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00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: the twenty four to twenty five season.

1133
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, thank you.

1134
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah ye, it was actually very good, well deserved Steve.

1135
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 3: Thanks very much, man, look after yourself and good luck tomorrow.

1136
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: That's Steve Carriker, the coach of Auckland FC. It's twenty

1137
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 3: one away from six.

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Speaker 2: A kind.

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00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 18: And it's again Australia with a convincing win to back

1142
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 18: up their seventeen goal advantage from the first Test.

1143
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: It could be around one, could be round ten, but

1144
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: one way or another, I find a way to get

1145
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 4: a faby orderly knockout.

1146
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't think we have spoken in person.

1147
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: I don't really know what happened in Austin.

1148
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: To be honest, I.

1149
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 16: Brought it to the team to the gar What I

1150
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 16: said in special media was very unnecessary.

1151
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: On Sports Title US we have Andrew Orderson news talks

1152
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: AB Sports Trader and Matt Brown, Oceania Football Confederation media manager.

1153
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: How are you too.

1154
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: Even you hear the orders?

1155
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 2: Matt?

1156
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 10: What is it with us?

1157
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: Why don't we turn up at the start of a season?

1158
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I think sixteen thousand label weekend. You know,

1159
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 8: a lot of people head out of Auckland. There's still

1160
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 8: a decent crowd and there'll be a walk up on

1161
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 8: the day if the weather's fine. I'm going, so there's

1162
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: me and my son going.

1163
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: So that's to look like.

1164
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 8: I do think last year they looked they it was

1165
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 8: the thirsty of the game. I think they pretty much

1166
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 8: sold it out, didn't they. And it was a week earlier,

1167
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 8: as Steve just said this, So I think they could

1168
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 8: partakefully potentially push upwards closer to twenty. But they're going

1169
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 8: to get good crowds, but it will depend on a

1170
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 8: lot of It will depend on how they go. If

1171
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 8: they if they win the last year, then the crowd

1172
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 8: will keep coming back because it's a great experience. The

1173
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 8: game day experience is really good and Awkan I see.

1174
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably wiser than orders at the moment, given

1175
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: given what happened last night to the cricket to wait

1176
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: to see what happens with the weather.

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00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 15: Yes, exactly.

1178
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 13: They take some lessons and science the lessons out of

1179
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 13: that one together, I think. But look, it's another that

1180
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 13: I mean, there's such a brilliant force promotionally the the

1181
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 13: FC out and so far and I'm looking forward to

1182
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 13: these rivalries Phoenix again of course of the season. It's

1183
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 13: it's really and it's just to build something that doesn't

1184
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 13: it for in great for football in this country and

1185
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 13: it continues to get a foothold.

1186
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 3: Orders Have we made a mistake with the cricket in October?

1187
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: Oh?

1188
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 12: I think so.

1189
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 13: But there he said on cricket, I pretty much painted

1190
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 13: into a corner, aren't they. I mean in this regard,

1191
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 13: I mean scheduling stuff in October it's just a risky business.

1192
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 13: And he said it's a bit like doing in April

1193
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 13: and England or something like that, an international series.

1194
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: He asked.

1195
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 13: The trouble just the financial burden that comes with setting

1196
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 13: up the games. It's probably a poor advertise into the game.

1197
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 15: It stopped start.

1198
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Speaker 13: But I think it's the fact that you know, February

1199
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 13: March is now out, you know, ex season it's been

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00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 13: out in other seasons as well with other touring sides,

1201
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 13: but also the T twenty World Cup schedule for the end, right,

1202
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 13: and they're not going to go into the Indian Premier

1203
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 13: League season to build these tournaments. So I think that

1204
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 13: you're cricket just have to find space where they can

1205
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 13: and unfortunately they've topped the weather with it.

1206
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel

1207
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: about this, Matt, because if you I mean, yay, you've

1208
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: got England here, but how many of the games have

1209
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: been rained off?

1210
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Well exactly?

1211
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 8: You know there's something like seven thousand maybe at eden

1212
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 8: parkner and I think of twenty twenty when they do

1213
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 8: generally play at eden Park. Of it is in the

1214
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 8: middle of summer, you know, you can get twenty five

1215
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 8: thousand plus to international cricket. Look that the domestic season

1216
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 8: only starts this week end and that sums it up

1217
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 8: for me. The fifty over season and Ford trade is

1218
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 8: only starting this weekend.

1219
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: Sorry, And it's just.

1220
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 8: A shame because over the summer. I don't I'm not

1221
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 8: sure orders are correct.

1222
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: We've I'm wrong, but I don't.

1223
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 8: Think there is any sort of s matches one day

1224
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 8: as twenty twenties in that sort of traditional Christmas holiday

1225
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 8: period when people are off work. There's no International cricket,

1226
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 8: which is a real shame, but we are dictated to

1227
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 8: by the ICC and the ter schedules these days.

1228
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: All Are you hearing any goss about why Jason Holland left?

1229
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: Is it just because because they didn't rate him?

1230
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 6: No?

1231
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 13: I think it's from what I'm hearing. I wondered when

1232
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 13: the news before it broke, we sort of was working

1233
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 13: for the heroine a z B. I wonder if he's

1234
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 13: going to set up with his bags at the hotel

1235
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 13: and they're going to say, sorry, Jason, you're not coming

1236
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 13: to the Northern Tour. But it seems to relatively amicable.

1237
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 13: I mean, he's come to the end of that contract.

1238
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 13: They didn't want to renew it. It's a pretty pretty

1239
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 13: taxing time next year, with what seventeen games in total,

1240
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 13: the South African Tour built into it, World Cup after that,

1241
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 13: you've got to have to be committed. You know, some

1242
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 13: questions as well over the counter attacking capacity in general

1243
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 13: attack of the All Blacks. But it's not a particularly

1244
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 13: good sign and probably shows the toughness of the international gig.

1245
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 13: But that two of Robertson's original team gone in this

1246
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 13: first cycle to him first World Cup cycle.

1247
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, all right, listen, correct, well you go,

1248
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: you go.

1249
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: Matt.

1250
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 8: So, I was going to say the fact that he's

1251
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 8: staying on for the NDA too, it would suggest he's

1252
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 8: not too much bad blood, but here that I never

1253
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 8: rated him. I think tax being dreadful in the last

1254
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 8: two years, and he's been the attack coach.

1255
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm glad he's moving on.

1256
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: Matt.

1257
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: Harsh words from you.

1258
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: You're not normally.

1259
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 13: Where did your back bring?

1260
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: Jeez said it like it is, Hey, guys, take a break,

1261
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: come back. Shortly caught it too.

1262
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,919
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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with Andrew Ordison and Matt Brown. Now order.

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00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: As I said earlier in the show, I'd heard from

1266
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: three very good sources that Dame Knowles is coming back,

1267
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: maybe maybe being announced as early as next week. If

1268
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: you were Dame Knowles, though, would you want to come back?

1269
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 6: Oh?

1270
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 15: I think you do.

1271
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1272
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 13: Miss obviously built a plan around working towards the next

1273
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 13: World Cup, working towards the Conworth game, she's an ambition

1274
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 13: the course of her successful coaching career, and you know,

1275
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 13: all that planning, all that ambition, you think she want

1276
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 13: to get back in sort of. The other question would

1277
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 13: be with a net when New Zealand can afford to

1278
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 13: let go. I mean, you'd have to pay her out

1279
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 13: when you contrary to me, and given the difficulties I've

1280
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 13: had with a broadcast deal, et cetera, I wonder you

1281
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 13: know it's going to have to be almost like a

1282
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 13: Fousty impact or something.

1283
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 15: Of that nature.

1284
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, exactly, because here's the question, Matt, because there

1285
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: is a rumor going around and I phrase it, I

1286
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: frame it as a rumor because you know, that's all

1287
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: it is, that there is another job offer available to

1288
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: her that takes her out of the netblorn New Zealand

1289
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: camp all together. Wouldn't you take that? Wouldn't you get

1290
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: your name come back, get your new name cleared, and

1291
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: then just quit at the first available opportunity and go

1292
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: and work somewhere where you can be happy.

1293
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 8: I'm not so sure, because I think and it wouldn't

1294
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 8: surprised me if there's another offer. By the way, because

1295
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 8: she is held in high esteem international, you know, I

1296
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 8: think she's also pretty determined, and she would not so

1297
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 8: much prove a point, but she did have, as Elders said,

1298
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 8: you know, she would have had a plan through to

1299
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 8: the next World cupcom games. And I think I think

1300
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 8: there might be some unfinished business for her if she is,

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Speaker 8: in fact, you know, reinstated, as I think a lot

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00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 8: of people, a lot of neutrals certainly, and probably a

1303
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 8: lot of people close to the game too, thing as

1304
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 8: she should be and if she is, but it will

1305
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 8: make it very uncomfortable potentially for you know, some players

1306
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 8: within that camp, because clearly there has been some dissatisfaction.

1307
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 8: But the one thing I heard, you know, when I

1308
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 8: heard Grace Grace Nuiki come out and sort of say

1309
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 8: that that she you know, really felt for her and

1310
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Speaker 8: was you know, supportive of her. I get the feeling

1311
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 8: there will be a fear few players in that squad,

1312
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 8: particularly with the way they're performing at the moment, who

1313
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 8: might welcome her back with open arms.

1314
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, so, Hey, orders, how awkward was that press

1315
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: conference with Liam Lawson.

1316
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 13: It's a pretty intense part of the season, isn't it,

1317
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 13: So you and Liam Lawson, But you know, I understand that,

1318
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 13: I mean there's fine.

1319
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1320
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 13: Is they both trying to get the seats?

1321
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1322
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 15: Time or.

1323
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 8: In the isn't he?

1324
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean when we say out in Mongolia, it could

1325
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: literally just be Southland at the moment, we're not entirely sure.

1326
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: We're going to figure out. Have you ever have you

1327
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: ever hated someone or had like such an awkward time

1328
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: with someone at work you couldn't even make eye contact

1329
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: with them.

1330
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: A weakened him for long enough? No, not at all,

1331
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: not not, not really not not.

1332
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Speaker 8: You have a professional environment. But I think I think

1333
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 8: that the stakes are simply so high. You know, let's

1334
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 8: face it, Sonoda a place Laws and at Red Bull

1335
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 8: and early and very early in the season, he hasn't performed.

1336
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 8: He is under so much pressure Laws and still under

1337
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 8: pressure to gain a seat for next year. That's how

1338
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 8: cutthroat it is. And the and there's a lot of

1339
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 8: talk that these two are really could be effectively competing

1340
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 8: for just one spot. So it was always going to

1341
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 8: be I think like this and you know, very awkward.

1342
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 8: As you said, you know, the at the media conference.

1343
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: Today orders, are you back with us?

1344
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 13: I'm back, Yeah, I've been taken out of I've been

1345
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 13: taken out on the first quarter.

1346
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you, by the way, are you just

1347
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: in Auckland?

1348
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm just I'm just here where I normally sit

1349
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 13: for these chats.

1350
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 15: So you know, tell me birthday theory.

1351
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: You haven't even moved. It's just like the seal has

1352
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: moved around you.

1353
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's things.

1354
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: How.

1355
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 15: Let's how things that we went to me either.

1356
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I've got something for you guys. Okay, Matt,

1357
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: listen to this. Here's a theory. Martinu has just played

1358
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: his hundredth mash for too long. He has also played

1359
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: one hundred matches for the Hurricanes and one hundred matches

1360
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: for the All Blacks. Is he the greatest rugby player

1361
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: of all time?

1362
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 8: No, he's not the greatest player of all time, but

1363
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 8: he's certainly one of the longest lasting. And and look,

1364
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 8: he's phenomenal. He's a phenomenal player in his prime. But yeah,

1365
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 8: absolutely a phenomenal athlete. And that's remarkable. He must be

1366
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 8: just about my age, I would imagine, which is what.

1367
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not going to say over nation

1368
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: the biggest.

1369
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: Become so touchy about their age.

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Speaker 17: I love it.

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: Is he of the fifties and forty. I'm suggesting he

1372
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 4: probably is.

1373
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 3: Now you're not telling me he's over forty?

1374
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: Is he?

1375
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1376
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 4: Well over forty and he's.

1377
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: Still playing rugby at this I mean that, like orders,

1378
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: that's a life goal, isn't it.

1379
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: Well?

1380
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean hopefully he's all right and hopefully he

1381
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 13: has there too many head knocks or anything like that nature,

1382
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 13: but amazing. I mean that longevity is extraordinary. As Mets is,

1383
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 13: I'm not sure if he's the great, he's probably the

1384
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 13: greatest midfield. They're all right up there and just so robust,

1385
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 13: so abrasive, and the fact that too longs will rate

1386
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 13: him and one of them on that side. I've even

1387
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 13: been playing him in the Lucy's apparently just to keep

1388
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 13: him in the mix. Is outstanding. He is clearly coveted.

1389
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Speaker 8: Forty three.

1390
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: Here you go, Matt forty three, Matts forty three. Jeez,

1391
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: how good has that? Guys? Listen, great to talk to you.

1392
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: Enjoy your week in the sporting your long weekend as well.

1393
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: That's Andrew Orderson and Matt Brown our sports tittle this evening.

1394
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: Oh is there a sports that I need to tell

1395
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: you about next?

1396
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: No?

1397
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: I think I might. It might have been the nevermind. Look,

1398
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: it's a long weekend. Now my name my never of mine.

1399
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm going to talk to you about next.

1400
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 3: Don't turn it off. It's the strikes. It's important.

1401
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: Hang on, it's the.

1402
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Heather Duper See allan Drive Full Show podcast on my

1403
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,520
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1404
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna tell you I was going to

1405
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: tell you about the strikes. I'm not going to tell

1406
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: you about the strikes at the minute. I'm going to

1407
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: tell you about the strikes later on. I need to

1408
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: tell you about Tom Phillips. Before I get to Tom Phillips,

1409
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: can I just say, okay, So even Apropos the German

1410
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: just declining on everybody's behalf in this team to go

1411
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 3: on the pirate ship at Rainbow's end at eight this morning,

1412
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 3: even her mortgage advisor has now text her and been

1413
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 3: like bad, bad call. But I don't think she understands.

1414
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't think she's not in the New Zealand Psyche

1415
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: about Rainbow's end, which where anyway, she wants me to

1416
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: update you to let you know that she has now

1417
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: she is maya culprit. She has written to Rainbow's end

1418
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 3: and asked if she could please get us on another

1419
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: ride on the pirate ship at some other stage. So

1420
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: there will be some full grown adults on that pirate

1421
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: ship at some stage, and they will belong to the

1422
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: team here at Newstalk ZB Drive, and it, yeah, is

1423
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: probably gonna include me for Laura. Thank you Laura for

1424
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 3: fixing the thing that you broke before. Do you know

1425
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: what Laura once did? This is because Laura does this

1426
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 3: stuff where she just thinks that she could just make

1427
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: unilateral decisions. One time, somebody sent me a packet of

1428
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: chips and I wasn't here for the day and she

1429
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: opened the box. It said hither duplasy allen on it

1430
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: years ago. It was like about five years ago. I'm

1431
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: not gonna lie, no, maybe even six. She opened it's

1432
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: my name on the box, and she opened the box up,

1433
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: and she opened the chips up and she ate the chips,

1434
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: my chips. There were about six packets of chips and

1435
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: she and the newsroom ate all of the chips and

1436
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: I had none. That's rue da whatever. Anyway, listen, Tom Phillips.

1437
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: So the police have put out more photos of Tom

1438
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: Phillips today the camp sites right, and they've found, because

1439
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: what they've done is they've found a couple of bigger

1440
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: camp sites that would have been the primary camp sites

1441
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: that the family were using. They're a bit better than

1442
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: the crappy one that the copp has found the first time.

1443
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: One is north of Mardakupper one is to the east,

1444
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: partially buried, semi permanent. Anyway, what I think is interesting

1445
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: is in the press release that the police put out

1446
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: saying look at these are the big campsites, they then

1447
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: say approaching Phillips in such circumstances would have been extremely dangerous.

1448
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: Now I looked at that and I thought, oh, that's

1449
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: what this is about. So what's going on? Just be

1450
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: aware of this, right, the cops are clearly worried that

1451
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: we are judging them harshly for leaving those kids out

1452
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: there with Tom Phillips for that long when they knew

1453
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 3: the police knew what danger he was putting those children in.

1454
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: And so what they're trying to do at the moment

1455
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 3: is to convince us that actually they couldn't have got

1456
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: them out any earlier because it would have been too dangerous.

1457
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: This is what all of this is about, is just

1458
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: reinforcing that message. So just bear that in mind that

1459
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: this is not just neutral updating you. It is to

1460
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: try and influence how you see this anyway. John Battersby

1461
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: on Brenton Tarrant.

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: Next, What's up? What's down? What were the major cause

1463
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: and how will it affect the economy?

1464
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with Heather

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: Duplessy Ellen and mass for Insurance Investments and Quie Saber

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Speaker 1: You're in good hands.

1467
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: News Talks end be.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up in the next hour with Japan's first

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: female Prime Minister is already causing a bit of controversy

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: with her work ethic Peter Lewis will talk us through

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: that shortly. Barry Sober will rap the political week that was,

1472
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: and Gavin Grave will tell us all of the drama

1473
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: of the royal family out of the UK seven past six. Now,

1474
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: there is controversy back home about the High Court decision

1475
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 3: to allow the March fifteen terrorist, Brenton Tarrant, to give

1476
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: evidence directly to the coronial inquiry. Victims are slamming this decision.

1477
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: Massy University counter terrorism specialist John Battersby is with us evening.

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01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 17: John Good Evening, how are you do you think there?

1479
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm well thank you. Do you think there's any value

1480
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: in hearing from him?

1481
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 17: No, I don't. I've questioned the value of the Coronial

1482
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 17: inquiry fool's top to be honest. It has been the

1483
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 17: subject of a mess of police investigation with head a

1484
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 17: Royal commission with five or sixty is down the track now.

1485
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 17: I don't think there's anything that the coronial Inquiry can

1486
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 17: tell us that we don't already know or hasn't been

1487
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 17: pretty slowly investigated. So no, I don't think this Cannady.

1488
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: Thing, Okay, is there any value? Is he has he

1489
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: participated with the Royal Commission or the police investigation.

1490
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 17: The police would have spoken to him, and I understand

1491
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,919
Speaker 17: that the Royal Commission did also, and they secured his testimony.

1492
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 17: They weren't going to release that to the public. So

1493
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 17: he has been spoken to and he has provided evidence

1494
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 17: to both of those inquiries because we haven't seen it,

1495
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 17: and I don't think either either the police or the

1496
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 17: Royal Commissioner ever said how value they their founding evidences,

1497
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 17: and not quite sure really what contribution they had to

1498
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 17: the final outcome. The final outcome was tragic and pretty stark,

1499
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 17: and I'm not sure his explanation, whether it was honest

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 17: or not, is going to help us.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I take your point that this is

1502
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 3: ground that's already been traversed. The thing is that the

1503
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 3: coroner is traversing it again. So if the coroner is

1504
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: traversing it again, is there no value in understanding from

1505
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: his perspective, things like how he managed to retain a

1506
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: firearms a firearms license when he clearly shouldn't have, how

1507
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: he managed to evade security services when he should probably

1508
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: have been picked up by them.

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 17: I don't know that I would agree that he evaded

1510
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 17: security services when he should have been picked up by him.

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 17: If somebody like him presented themselves now, it would still

1512
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 17: be very very touch and go As to wars, I'd

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01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 17: find them. He had no criminal history, there were no flags,

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 17: The Australians didn't know about him, So no somebody like that.

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Speaker 3: About the online presence though, yeah, we'll see the online

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Speaker 3: stuff has been detected after researchers know what they're looking for.

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Speaker 17: So there is a great deal of online stuff on

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Speaker 17: the online content that is extremist, that is teening towards violence,

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Speaker 17: and there's a lot of people contributing to it. The

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Speaker 17: difficulty is finding the individuals who are here and the

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Speaker 17: ones that are merely kind of exhibiting this kind of

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Speaker 17: extremist content, who are actually then going to go on

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Speaker 17: and do something small.

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Speaker 3: Johnny, you have the view that if somebody was to

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Speaker 3: do what he did and post the kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: that he was posting all over again, chances are we

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Speaker 3: wouldn't know that it wouldn't raise any red flags.

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Speaker 17: I don't know that I would say that. I think

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Speaker 17: the security and intelligence and police are all highly aware

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Speaker 17: of the type of risk that someone might compose us

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 17: and looking, they are looking. But I think what I

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Speaker 17: would say is, we just can't guarantee that they will

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Speaker 17: detect them. I mean, there are much greater resourced security

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Speaker 17: and intelligence agencies in a number of other countries that

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Speaker 17: have missed people. So yeah, look, we just can't guarantee

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Speaker 17: they will find them.

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Speaker 3: Listen, what do they do though, with having him present evidence?

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Speaker 3: What do they do to avoid him using it as

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Speaker 3: a platform to you know, spread his wacky ideas.

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Speaker 17: Yes, that's the risk, that's the risk. So it could

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 17: be that he provides insight that he's openly honest about

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Speaker 17: why he did it, and it does provide some valuable insight.

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Speaker 17: So maybe. But on the other hand, Yeah, that's exactly

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 17: the risk that presents itself. He didn't take it when

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01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 17: he pleaded guilty. He didn't take it at sent it

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 17: thing when he was off with you to say something.

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 17: He may take it here. That's the risk.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Hey, thanks very much, John, Always good to talk

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Speaker 3: to you. John Battersby, Senior fellow at Massive University Center

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Speaker 3: for Defense and Security Studies PowerNet. We spoke to Rob Scott,

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Speaker 3: the Southland mayor, about an hour ago. He said he

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Speaker 3: was in a power Neet briefing to find out what's

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Speaker 3: going on with the power down south because it's out

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Speaker 3: across much of the lower South Island. PowerNet is warning people.

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Speaker 3: By the way, twenty five thousand people don't have power

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Speaker 3: in Southland and South Otago that they may be without

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Speaker 3: power until this time next week after. What's imagine that?

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Speaker 3: Imagine being without power this long would be Yeah, a

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Speaker 3: difficult thing to handle here that anyone with half a

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Speaker 3: brain knows, the more you move, the more likely you

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Speaker 3: are to be seen. This is really Tom Phillips. The

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Speaker 3: police should just shut their mouths. It's beginning to sound

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Speaker 3: like justification. May I tell you what it sounded like

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Speaker 3: justification to mean to a long time ago? Interesting? Just

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Speaker 3: on that now, I have been aware of that the

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Speaker 3: suppression orders in the Tom Phillips case of just being

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Speaker 3: published by the Herald this afternoon. Now, I was under

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Speaker 3: the impression that we weren't able to share the suppression

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Speaker 3: orders with you. But if the Heralds shared them, then

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Speaker 3: let's go hel for leather and get you across this.

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Speaker 3: I've been dying to tell you this. Judge Collins, who

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Speaker 3: I believe is involved in the family Court, has ruled

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Speaker 3: that no one is allowed to publish any film or

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Speaker 3: book or documentary that refers to the children. Now you

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Speaker 3: think about what that means, right? That means that must

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Speaker 3: I mean that means that as at the moment, with

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Speaker 3: the suppression order that exists at the moment, Julie Christy

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Speaker 3: cannotblish that documentary that she's been working on because you

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Speaker 3: put behind the cordon and all this stuff has been

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Speaker 3: reasonably controversial. And I, by the way, believe that the

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Speaker 3: police got Julie Christian also as an act of self justification,

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Speaker 3: to show how hard they are now working to get

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Speaker 3: make is as long as this suppression order stands, and

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Speaker 3: God only knows how long it stands for she can't

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Speaker 3: so Per, senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry, thank you, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Nice to be here again on the Maldi party. I'll

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01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 3: tell you what I find surprising is that these guys

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: appear to be falling apart, and yet it's quite quiet.

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Speaker 6: Well it's not so quiet, I think in the labor ranks.

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 6: I mean they're quite concerned, and indeed they've gone as

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 6: far to say that the Maori Party at the moment

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 6: would not be fit to be in government. Well that's

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Speaker 6: probably a bit of an understatement. Of course, there shouldn't

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Speaker 6: be anywhere near government the way they've been behaving. And

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Speaker 6: the thing that I've discovered this week and found it

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Speaker 6: quite interesting is the amount of a family that's employed

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Speaker 6: by Maori Party MPs. I mean Whitey Tear's wife was

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 6: the party's press secretary and also John Tammaheady, the president

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 6: of the party's daughter, so there's a big linkage there.

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 6: And then might Clark, the young woman who stood and

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Speaker 6: ripped up the Treaty Settlement's Bill, she's her mother's working

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Speaker 6: for her, and so too as a sister. And the

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Speaker 6: rules to me are quite unclear at Parliament as to

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Speaker 6: whether this should be the case. But I think my

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 6: reading of the rules as they shouldn't be anywhere near

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Speaker 6: the place employing staff that are so closely My.

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Speaker 3: Reading of the rules is different to yours. I think

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 3: the rules allow it because the rules explicitly ban an

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Speaker 3: MP from hiring a spouse or a partner, and then

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Speaker 3: ban an MP from hiring family members who are financially

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Speaker 3: who are dependent.

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Speaker 6: So you're not dependent if you're the mother, well you're

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 6: financially dependent if you're receiving.

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Speaker 3: A wage only only after become financially But it's a

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: silly rule. It's a dumb rule. All family cannot be

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 3: employed totally totally.

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Speaker 6: There should be no room for nepotism and politics.

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01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: That's right. Very tell me if this is an unfair

1648
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: thing to say. But have we gone a little bit

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01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: overboard in the praise for Jim Bolger this week? So

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Speaker 3: I just feel like calling him one of the greatest

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,440
Speaker 3: prime ministers ever is maybe not historically.

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Speaker 6: That's totally over the top. And even dom Kin to

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 6: say that, and Don gave a great eulogy, so I

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 6: take nothing away from him at the church yesterday, but

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01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 6: to say that he was by far the best farmer

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 6: leader that this country's ever seen as again, I mean

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Speaker 6: there will be many listeners that will remember Sir Keith Holyoake.

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Speaker 6: Now Holyoake won four terms in government, you know, I

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Speaker 6: mean he was seen, he was fairly revered as a

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Speaker 6: National Party leader. So look, Jim Boulger, I think he

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 6: was a very solid pair of hands, an extraordinarily nice

1662
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 6: individual and one that I'd had on a number of occasions,

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 6: a few bush mills whiskies with over the years. Very

1664
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 6: nice man. But to write him up as somebody I

1665
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 6: read said that he was the greatest leader that this

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Speaker 6: country's seen in the past century. I mean that is

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Speaker 6: patently ridiculous. I mean, Peter fray Her has always been

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Speaker 6: credited with being the war.

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Speaker 3: You don't even have to go that.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I know you don't like what I'm saying.

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 6: Is Clark historically Heather that time. You know that when

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Speaker 6: you look at the century, Peter Fraser is right up there.

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Speaker 3: But look, no, I see what you're saying. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we have got some examples that are the head and

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Speaker 3: shoulders above everybody else with the last century. That is

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Speaker 3: an absolutely fair point to make. Thank you for answering that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, And so it wasn't a horrible thing for

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Speaker 3: me to say today, not at all. Okay, just checking

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Speaker 3: with you, madam and Davidson, though, yeah, that's it. That's embarrassing,

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Speaker 3: isn't that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're told a year's work, and if that's all

1683
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 6: she's been doing for the past year, you've got to

1684
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 6: ask questions about what their role is in Parliament. But Nevertheless,

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01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 6: we were told that it was a year's work that

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 6: you'd put in on this piece of legislation. And what

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Speaker 6: did the legislation do. It was strengthening consumer rights to

1688
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 6: have goods repaired? Now what what what does that actually mean?

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 6: Does it mean if you've got a toaster that breaks down,

1690
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 6: then you should be able to take it down to

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Speaker 6: the local repair shop and get it repaired and it

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Speaker 6: cost you nothing. I don't know what it means.

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Speaker 3: No, it means that if you buy a toaster, you

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01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: take it back to Noel Leming or whoever you bought

1695
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 3: it from, and they get it repaired for you. Oh yeah,

1696
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: who repairs them? Well, Noel Leaming or the retails of

1697
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Speaker 3: the tragedy. It's a terrible idea, Mary. It's where I lived.

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Speaker 6: When I grew up. They had a repair man that

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Speaker 6: used to work from his house. You get toasters and

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Speaker 6: dryers and whatever. Nowadays I just thrown it, Lolwadays you

1701
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 6: buffer away and the built and obsolescence of items really

1702
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 6: does get on stick under my crawl really, But you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: Very quickly? Has the BSA signed its own death warrant?

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Speaker 6: I think possibly?

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Speaker 16: So?

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Speaker 6: I mean to try and bring in briefly as it was,

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01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 6: the freedom of speech union is patiently absurd under their guys.

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Speaker 6: And also you know, look the platform. I think they've

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01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 6: totally overreacted. Now we've got certainly Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister,

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Speaker 6: talking in very strong terms about doing away with the

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Speaker 6: BSA all together.

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Speaker 3: I say hurrah to that, thanks very much. Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent, rapping the political week that was, geez,

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Speaker 3: I don't you know what I feel like this week

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Speaker 3: the BSA has learned just how unloved it is.

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Speaker 3: about the Japanese female prime minister. She hit the first

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Speaker 3: female prime minister. She has said stuff like she is

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 3: the work life balance, and she's current and I think

1725
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: her husband's going to be playing some like uber supportive

1726
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 3: role or say anyway, it's just got people like freaking

1727
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: out about it, so Peter Lewis, we'll explain it when

1728
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 3: he's with it. Of course, if you're the Prime Minister,

1729
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 3: you just work, work, work, and there is no work

1730
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: life balance. That's how it is. Anyway, Peter Lewis will

1731
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: be with us shortly to talk us through it. Right

1732
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 3: now at six twenty six.

1733
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1734
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, because this is the job that I

1735
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 3: was telling you about.

1736
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: It is.

1737
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: It's for working for Meghan. Yeah, Meghan Sussex. Yeah, she's

1738
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 3: looking for a new publicist. So already you're like, ah no,

1739
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 3: and it's not for me, and for good reason, because

1740
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: historically people don't last very long with her. Her latest publicist,

1741
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: Emily Robinson, was her tenth publicist in five years, and

1742
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 3: she only started in June. She's already quit. Emily joined

1743
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: after joined Meghan's team after working at Netflix, and then

1744
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: a friend told The Daily Mail that she's not ac

1745
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: quitt so things must have been pretty horrible for her

1746
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 3: to go.

1747
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 4: Quote.

1748
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 3: I do wonder if Meghan has sent her some jam

1749
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: as a leaving gift. Of course there will be fruit preserves.

1750
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: I think we're all clear at this point that jam

1751
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: is Mjam, a spokesperson for the couple, said, Missus Robinson

1752
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: oversaw pro jet based work for a very successful season

1753
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: of With Love Comma Meghan. She did an excellent job

1754
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: and she completed these projects with great success. Now whatever,

1755
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 3: it's just corporate speak for yeah, I don't know. It's

1756
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: obviously not so worked out if you are one of

1757
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 3: those crazy people. Though, By the way, who does care

1758
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 3: about Meghan's jam and wine? She has hinted that she's

1759
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: got something new coming next week for her as ever brand,

1760
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 3: another twenty dollars jur of Jam. Maybe the world needs

1761
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 3: more of it, can't wait, might have to do some

1762
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: early Christmas shopping, et cetera, et cetera. So there you go.

1763
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: It's everything you needed to know about them. I mean,

1764
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 3: it is it possible to like them any less than

1765
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 3: you already do. News is next, then Peter Lewis to

1766
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: TARTI toti me some time.

1767
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: To be.

1768
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: Stain.

1769
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1770
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: Your business hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas for

1771
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: insurance investments and Hueye Safer and you're in good hands.

1772
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 2: News talks at b.

1773
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: We have got out of the UK Gavin Gray with

1774
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: us in ten minutes time.

1775
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 2: I am going to listen.

1776
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: I from time to time this text comes through from

1777
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 3: various people here and I got I've got it tonight.

1778
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: Hither is Greg four and the new CEO at New

1779
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby, Mike, Mike. This this rumor has been doing

1780
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: the rounds for such a long time. Do you remember

1781
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 3: when Greek four and quit. I had to ask him

1782
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: the question. I was like, are you going to New

1783
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby? And He's like, no, I'm not going to

1784
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby, not doing that. So unleast Greek Fouran

1785
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 3: loves to tell FIBs, which I don't believe he's not

1786
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: going to New Zealand Rugby. So it's got to be

1787
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: someone else who's got that job. And god on, who

1788
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: knows what job Greek Foran's got. Twenty three away from seven.

1789
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: Peter Lewis Asia Business Corresponders with US, Hello Peter, Hello Heather.

1790
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: All right, so she's already controversial, isn't she?

1791
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 6: She?

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01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 9: She she hasn't taken long. This is Sane Takichi, Japan's

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01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 9: first female prime minister. We should also mention that Japan's

1794
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 9: got its first female finance minister as well. A Satsuki

1795
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 9: Katayama has taken over. She's certainly more to the rights

1796
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 9: than perhaps her predecessor, mister Ishiba was. She styles herself

1797
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 9: upon Margaret's Margaret Thatcher. She very much believes in traditional values. So,

1798
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 9: for example, she doesn't believe that women should keep their

1799
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 9: own names when they get married, they should take up

1800
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 9: their husband's name. She doesn't believe in gay marriage either,

1801
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 9: So we're going to see a very traditional sort of

1802
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 9: administration from her. Also, she's talking already about a budget.

1803
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 9: It's a big spending bill that could be as much

1804
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 9: as one hundred billion dollars. That's going to come into

1805
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 9: effect maybe next month, and that's going to be spent

1806
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 9: on trying to sort of reform Japan and make it

1807
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 9: more modern in terms of its industrial base. They want

1808
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 9: to put money into things like clean energy, electric vehicles, batteries,

1809
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 9: so on. Now, of course the problem with that is

1810
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 9: that that's exactly what China has been doing, and they've

1811
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 9: stolen quite a march over Japan on that. Are there

1812
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 9: electric vehicle companies are really world leaders? You can't really

1813
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 9: say that about Japan's electric vehicles. Also on China. She's

1814
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 9: going to take a much more assertive stance. She wants

1815
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 9: to really stand up for Japan and particularly increase spending

1816
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 9: on defense, which currently is about one percent of GDP.

1817
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 9: She wants to double that to at least two percent

1818
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 9: of GDP. And she also wants Japan to have its

1819
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 9: own army, so that will involve converting the National Defense

1820
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 9: Force into a more traditional army. Of course, those things

1821
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 9: are going to be very, very controversial, and it remains

1822
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 9: to be seen what it's going to do in terms

1823
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 9: of Japan's relationship with China going forward.

1824
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 3: Now, what is a stealth husband?

1825
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 9: A stealth husband? I haven't really heard that phrase, so

1826
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 9: I'm not totally.

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01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 3: Sure because she's I mean, part of the controversy that

1828
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: she stirred as well is that she said she's going

1829
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: to ditch work life balance. She's just going to work, work, work,

1830
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 3: and she's going to have a stealth husband who is

1831
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: going to spend time in the kitchen, which he's happy

1832
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 3: to do, unlike men in the West, which is just

1833
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: throwing a lot of shade at men there. But yeah,

1834
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: what is a stealth husband. I'm assuming it's all.

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01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 9: Presume it means a house husband what we would call

1836
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 9: a house husband in the West, you know, a stay

1837
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 9: at home husband. I mean, it is true that she

1838
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 9: doesn't have any sense of work life balance at all.

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01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 9: She's used that phrase several times. You know, I'm going

1840
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 9: to work, work, work, But of course that doesn't mean

1841
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 9: to say, in a modern country like Japan that you

1842
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 9: both can't work and both have careers and find ways

1843
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 9: of managing that. But she seems to think that the

1844
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 9: husband's role is in the kitchen. So clearly her values

1845
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 9: are not necessarily in tune with the way we would

1846
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 9: look at things.

1847
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: In the West.

1848
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 3: No, there's a woman of contradictions. This one now looks

1849
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 3: like we're on the brink of a big trade deal

1850
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 3: between the US and India. Is there's going to be

1851
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: one of those ones that you call a trade deal

1852
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: was a bit sucky or is it actually going to

1853
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 3: be a fantastic one?

1854
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Well?

1855
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 9: It when these trade deals that, as Donald Trump likes

1856
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 9: to call them, aren't trade deals. I mean, trade deals

1857
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 9: take years, is sometimes decades in the case of India,

1858
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 9: to go and negotiate. They go into intricate detail about

1859
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 9: all sorts of products and sectors. What Donald Trump means

1860
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 9: is a tariff deal. In other words, I'm going to

1861
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 9: slap extraordinarily high tariffs on you, and then in return

1862
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 9: for you giving me something back, I'll take those tariffs

1863
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 9: back down to something like where they were before we started. So,

1864
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 9: in the case of India, Donald Trump has slapped tariffs

1865
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 9: of fifty percent on the country and he wants India

1866
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 9: to back away from buying Russian oil. And what is

1867
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 9: going to do is if they agree to that, is

1868
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 9: reduce the tariffs back down to a sort of what

1869
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 9: he thinks is a more reasonable fifteen to sixteen percent. Now,

1870
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 9: that's still above where they were before this all started.

1871
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 9: But nevertheless, he sees this as being a trade deal.

1872
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 19: Now.

1873
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 9: Actually he may get his wish here partly because of

1874
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 9: the slapping of sanctions on Russia's too big oil producers.

1875
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 9: Now that really changes the narrative for India, because India

1876
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 9: has been buying about a third of its oil that

1877
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 9: it needs from Russia. However, if companies that deal with

1878
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 9: India's big oil refiner and refiners are going to get

1879
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 9: slapped with secondary sanctions, that means they could get cut

1880
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 9: off from the Western financial system. They could lack access

1881
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 9: to US dollar funding. That is a big, big deal

1882
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 9: for them. And now are many big refiners who are

1883
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 9: already talking about now rethinking where they buy their oil from.

1884
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 9: The same is going to happen in China as well,

1885
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 9: because the big state owned oil companies cannot afford to

1886
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 9: be cut off from US dollar funding. And now I

1887
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 9: know China wants to try and lessen its dependence on

1888
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 9: the US dollar, but it certainly isn't ready to be

1889
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 9: cut off from the Western financial system. So this is

1890
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 9: a game change, and it will mean that India will

1891
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 9: have to rethink its whole energy policy. But remember that

1892
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 9: it's only been buying Russian oil since the invasion of Ukraine.

1893
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 9: Before that, it bought very little of its oil from Russia.

1894
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 9: It came from the OPEC countries, the Middle East and

1895
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 9: so on. And India will have to go back to

1896
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 9: sourcing its oil from OPEC nations.

1897
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, conundrum for it. Hey, thank you very much, Peter.

1898
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 3: As always, we have a chat to you next week.

1899
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: You'll look after yourself. Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent seventeen

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01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 3: away from seven. Tell you what this Maggie thatcher in

1901
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Japan got me riled just for a second when she

1902
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 3: believed that that you're supposed to take your husband's surname.

1903
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 3: I had a thought about this the other day when

1904
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: I was at the gym. In fact, Friday today, so

1905
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 3: yesterday might have been yester. No, it might have been

1906
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: the day before yesterday. Anyway, this sometime this week, I

1907
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: was sitting doing a spin class at the gym, and

1908
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 3: I I had quite a I had an epiphany about

1909
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: taking your husband's surname, which I will share with you

1910
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 3: at a later date. So I don't think we need

1911
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 3: this kind of intensity on a Friday, but fair to say, no,

1912
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 3: do not do this anyway. Interesting thing about her. This

1913
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 3: is the Japanese Prime Minister and her stealth husband. He's

1914
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 3: very supportive, but they actually got divorced. So they divorced

1915
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen because they had differences in political views,

1916
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 3: and then they got remarried in twenty twenty one. So

1917
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 3: I think you can kind of I don't know, but

1918
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: I think people I think we don't know. What does

1919
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: it say about them as characters that they get married,

1920
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 3: get divorced, and then get remarried. It's all very Elizabeth Taylor,

1921
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: isn't it. It's bit nutty Let's be honest. They probably

1922
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: characters who would who you wouldn't want to get into

1923
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 3: a fight with, you know, it'd be quite intense sized suspect. Anyway,

1924
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 3: I have to talk to you about the strikes. I'm

1925
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: going to talk to you about that shortly. Here there

1926
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 3: is the German going to the nz are mass Now

1927
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: there is a job going at the NZR and the

1928
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: German is we want to Dame knowles Her. We want

1929
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 3: to Dame knowles Her over what she did with Rainbow's end.

1930
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Speaker 3: So you may have solved our problem. Thank you.

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01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Quarter two approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's

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01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 2: Heather d for Ce Ellen with the Business Hour and

1933
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 2: Mas for Insurance Investments and Quie Safer. You're in good

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Speaker 2: hands News Dogs d be.

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Speaker 3: Laura can't leave because Ryan told Laura after he was

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Speaker 3: working on the Drive show that she's one of the

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Speaker 3: smartest women he's ever worked with. What's true. She is

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Speaker 3: one of the smartest women, but also one of the

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Speaker 3: hungriest for chips. I'm never gonna forget. I will not

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Speaker 3: forget to have away from seven. Gavin Gray are UK

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Speaker 3: correspondents with our Yellow Gavin.

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Speaker 2: So she won't thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: No, she's not thanking for me for a lot today,

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Speaker 3: but that's okay. I'm paying her back for some bad behavior. Now, listen,

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Speaker 3: this business and the by election in Wales seems like

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Speaker 3: it is actually quite serious for Labor.

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Speaker 18: Yes, I think it's serious for both the main traditional parties.

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Speaker 18: So the by election was held because of the death

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Speaker 18: of a sitting MP and in effect the person that's

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Speaker 18: it won't be in seat that long because there'll be

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Speaker 18: a new batch of elections to do with Wales coming

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Speaker 18: up in just a few months time. But the result

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Speaker 18: is significant because the winner is ply Cumry might not

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Speaker 18: mean much to you, but it is the pro national

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Speaker 18: party in Wales and it seeks greater political independence from

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Speaker 18: the government in London. But more importantly than that, it

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Speaker 18: won a seat which Labor has held for decades. And

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Speaker 18: what's important is the Labor government and the Conservative opposition,

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Speaker 18: the two main parties for many decades in this country,

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Speaker 18: were absolutely trounced, and they were trounced by the Independent

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Speaker 18: Wales campaign groupled Cumbriers have said, but also by reform.

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Speaker 18: And it was interesting that many people who wanted to

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Speaker 18: had traditionally supported Labor in this seat decided to vote

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Speaker 18: for Plygumery because they didn't want Reform to get in.

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Speaker 18: In other words, there was lots of tactical voting.

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Speaker 2: Reform, of course, is the.

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Speaker 18: Upstart party that is doing incredibly well in the opinion polls,

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Speaker 18: and he's led by Nigel Farahs, the architect of Brexit,

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Speaker 18: I will call him. And they are really the only

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Speaker 18: party I think cracking scene to be really cracking down

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Speaker 18: on immigration into the country, promising net zero immigration, and

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Speaker 18: that's something which is appealing to many. But in this instance,

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Speaker 18: despite throwing everything at campaign, it was the Nationalists who

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Speaker 18: have won this seat of care Philly in Wales, and

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Speaker 18: that is a big, big disappointment for Labor and Conservative

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Speaker 18: Gavin Listen.

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Speaker 3: With the UK Prime Minister pushing the Allies to give

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Speaker 3: the longer range missiles to Ukraine, do you feel like

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Speaker 3: Putin has overplayed his hand here.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think there's huge concern that, if anything, peace

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Speaker 18: seems further away than it's ever been. He's sort of

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Speaker 18: saying that now I'm not going to freeze the fighting

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Speaker 18: lines where they are, is a suggestion he's quite happy

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Speaker 18: to keep on fighting, quite happy to keep having people

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Speaker 18: killed Ukraine and there I say it to see victims

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Speaker 18: in Russia as well. The most recent attack on a

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Speaker 18: chemical plant in Bryansk was led by British supplied storm

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Speaker 18: Shadow missiles, which are long range weapons. And what this

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Speaker 18: summit in the Coalition of the Willing as it's called,

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Speaker 18: with twenty of Ukraine allies meeting in London, are really there,

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Speaker 18: yes to surprise, to continue to provide security guarantees once

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Speaker 18: the seas far as broken. But now Zelenski, President Zelenski

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Speaker 18: of Ukraine, is pleading with the allies to give them

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Speaker 18: long range weapons. The uk has already committed to doing

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Speaker 18: that now, but others are going to be pressured into

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Speaker 18: trying to follow suit. And the fear is of course

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Speaker 18: that Russia has worn this will escalate the conflict and

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Speaker 18: bring other countries into the conflict. Indeed, America look like

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Speaker 18: they were going to give their weapons, their long range

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Speaker 18: weapons to Ukraine. That now has not happened, and President

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Speaker 18: Zelensky left America empty handed and really frustrated by what

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Speaker 18: was going on, seeing so many killed in his own

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Speaker 18: country but not being given the weapons which he believes

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Speaker 18: will be able to see him strike fear right in

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Speaker 18: the heart of Russia and may just may get Vladimir

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Speaker 18: Putin to change tag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gavin, listen, thank you, look after yourself. We'll chat

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Speaker 3: to you next week. That's Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent,

2009
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Speaker 3: listen on the strikes right. One of the points that

2010
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Speaker 3: Allie Jones made when she was on the huddle earlier

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Speaker 3: this week was maybe even yesterday, was that she's confused

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Speaker 3: as to who's actually the bad guy here. Is that

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Speaker 3: the government as in like the Public Service Commission, or

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Speaker 3: is it the unions? Which of the two are frustrating

2015
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Speaker 3: the process because clearly somebody is right and I think

2016
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Speaker 3: we it's not clear. It's really hard to go because

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Speaker 3: both scides claim that they're the good guy. But I

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Speaker 3: think we might find out shortly because the ERA is

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Speaker 3: getting involved in the cases of both the major unions,

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Speaker 3: which is the PBTA secretary teachers and then also the

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Speaker 3: senior doctors. The government has written base the government side

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Speaker 3: has written to the ERA in both cases asking them

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Speaker 3: to step in, so asking for facilitated bargaining with secondary

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Speaker 3: school teachers. Now, the only reason that the ERA would

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Speaker 3: do that is because they would believe that somebody's acting

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Speaker 3: in bad faith or the bargaining is being unduly drawn

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Speaker 3: out of the strike. Strike action could harm the public

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Speaker 3: interest or whatever. If the RA steps in in this

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Speaker 3: instance as they're being requested to, that would indicate to

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Speaker 3: you the PPTA are acting in bad faith. The second

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Speaker 3: thing is on the Senior doctors. Health New Zealand has

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Speaker 3: gone to the ERA asking it to rule that the

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Speaker 3: senior doctors have been bargaining in bad faith because that's

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Speaker 3: been dragging off for fifteen months and that's rare for

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Speaker 3: the ERA to rule that. If they do, it will

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Speaker 3: force a binding deal on the doctors, and that will

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Speaker 3: also be an indication to you that the Doctors' Union

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Speaker 3: are the ones acting badly. So both sides claim that

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Speaker 3: they're the good guys here, but I think we're about

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Speaker 3: to find out which side really is the good guys,

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Speaker 3: and that will happen in the coming days or weeks.

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Speaker 3: So i'd imagine seven away from seven, it's the.

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Speaker 3: Either I suspect it's the unions. Well, I suspected it's

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Speaker 3: the unions too now listen. Earlier this week, quite controversially,

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Speaker 3: I suggested that this is becoming like a clarification section

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Speaker 3: this part. I suggested that a good idea maybe to

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Speaker 3: get your saucys because saucas British sausages are dry, and

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Speaker 3: what you want to do is you want to poach

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Speaker 3: your British sausage, and then you want to poach the water,

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Speaker 3: like you know, get rid of the water, let it

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Speaker 3: kind of disappear, and then fry it off. And Locke,

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Speaker 3: who sits next to me in the newsroom, who is

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Speaker 3: from the UK, said to me, oh, I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to know about that. Maybe I'll give it a go.

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Speaker 3: Locke tried it last night, and I'm very happy to

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Speaker 3: report to you I did not ruin Lock's dinner. Locke

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Speaker 3: is quite impressed. And did Locke say, am I making supple?

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Speaker 3: Did Lock say they were the best sausages ever? I

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Speaker 3: think I think you're right. Actually, I think they may

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Speaker 3: have said that. Yeah, yep, absolutely right, there we go.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, well, I mean maybe I need to give

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Speaker 7: it a train sages.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fact that Locke is from the UK

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Speaker 3: is well, I think is you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: not like when it's not like we're not getting some

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Speaker 3: random nationality to do it right, and.

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Speaker 7: And hospital experience as well. So yeah, no knows where around.

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Speaker 3: The kitchen and better?

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Speaker 4: What have you got?

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Speaker 7: The Food Fighters asking for a Friend to play us

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Speaker 7: out tonight. This is grand spanking new from them, just

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Speaker 7: came out this week. Dave Grohl said that he had

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Speaker 7: the inspiration for the song when he was looking at

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Speaker 7: Mount Fuji in Japan.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Yep, so brand's making new from the Food Fighters asking

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Speaker 7: for a Friend?

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Speaker 3: Oh is this the first release of music since he

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Speaker 3: cheated on his wife?

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Speaker 7: I think he's beat some since then, hasn't there?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 18: Oh this is odd.

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Speaker 3: It's controversial now, isn't it sounds like it sounds angsty

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Speaker 3: like he's dealing with a divorce, doesn't it. Maybe that's

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Speaker 3: fight was staring at Mount Foofi. Yeah, asking for a friend. No,

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Speaker 3: you're not, Dave, You're asking for yourself the cheaterh Okay,

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Speaker 3: have a nice long weekend. See you next Tuesday.

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