1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Jason Wolves as well us from Parliament. Jason, good afternoon, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Ryan. So Party Marti's at it again. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Indeed they are, and you know they started yesterday on 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: the right track. I have listened to what Debbie Nadi 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Wapaka said during the Prime Minister's debate or the debate 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: on the Prime Minister's speech. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 3: I'm standing on behalf of Taparty Marti today to constructively 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: give our view on the Prime Minister's statement. And I've 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: got to be really honest. What I've witnessed this afternoon 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: is showing it even day one, the deterioration of our 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: behavior and our debate can't be held. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: So I thought, oh good, they're going to stay in. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: They're not going to say out of pocket things, They're 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: not going to be too extreme with their language. I thought, fantastic. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: They've taken the year, they've taken the summer to assess 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: alas it took less than twenty four hours for TI 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Party Marti to show their own deterioration in the way 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: that they're speaking and the way that they're interacting with 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: the other MP's. Have a listen to what TI Party Marti. 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: MP Mediameno Kapachini told Karen Short during a Select Committee 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: this morning when talking about the boot camps. 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: So how in your institutionalized, individualized using your words process, 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: does your system and institutional system understand that and respond 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: to it in an enduring way because it doesn't. 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: Sound like it. 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Look, I have to disagree with most of what you've said, 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: and you're entitled to say it, but I actually disagree 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: with most of what because you've got. 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: A gap acknowledgements you don't understand. 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: So what she said there, that's that's Marie Manau Kapakini 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: telling Karen Shaw, who is a Marty MP, that she 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: doesn't understand the essence of being Mary. And this is 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: the same MP who accused the Coalition government of having 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: a quote mission to exterminate Marty and who has used 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: words like white supremacy, pakiha supremacy when criticizing the repeal 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: of seven double A of the Atamaniki actor. Meanwhile, sure 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: has been the victim of these attacks before, as you're 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: well remember Labor MP Calvin Davison. Calvin Davidson said that 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: she saw the world through a quote vanilla lens. But 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: according to TI Party, Marty called leader Debbie Nadi we 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Packer that she essentially stood by the words of the 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: MP I. 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 6: Mean our role is to challenge and you have seen 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 6: it in here specifically we mentioned the day that we 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 6: did the Hucker on what it's like to be cornered 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 6: and held to ransom. 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: But Seymour's having none of it. He says that all 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: people who oppose racism should oppose TI Party. 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 7: Marty, Well, no, because they don't think they've done anything wrong. 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 7: And that is my point, is that they are race fanatics, 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 7: racial supremacist people who believe that before you can talk 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 7: about anything else, you've got to talk about your ethnic background. 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 7: And that's what I'm wholeheartedly opposed to have. 54 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: So we had a couple of minutes of respite yesterday 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: in the House and we're back to, as I said, 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: the way things were. 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: It's interesting because this has happened for years and years. 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: They used to say this about Paula Bennett when she 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: was in government. They say about Simon Bridges as well, 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're not a real I think was the 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: phrase that they used to throw around. Then meanwhile, Winston, 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: what's he done? What are the Greens upset about? 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, the first shots were fired yesterday when Winston Peter 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: said this in the house. 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 8: I know they're laughing. The Greens are laughing at that 66 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 8: because they find that comical. They find that comical. The 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 8: very people who are here, on the very refuge that 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 8: we get to them, have come here with their ideas 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 8: foreign to our country, native to this and they wish 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 8: to impos upon out Parliament. Now you don't You're not 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 8: going to succeed here. You might be laughing now, but 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 8: you might be laughing now, but you have reclined tomorrow 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 8: come to this country. Show some Verrgian No, let me 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 8: turn out our policy in sunshine. 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: So that was directed at Green MP's Lawrence Sunnan and 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Francisco Hernandez, who are both of Asian descent, which the 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Greens are taking exception to. 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: Well, to imply that a migrant cannot voice political views 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: and to dismiss political views because of someone's microant background 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: and high level of the soils to the country, and 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: that is an issue that we take but more than 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: anything again, this is about the harm that beast words 83 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: of course outside of these four walls. 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: So obviously they're not happy about that. Winston Peters today 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: was trying to wiggle out of it. 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 8: I was talking about two people jeering and shouting from 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 8: the back benches as the debates of no moments then, 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 8: and I was putting out it in the historical parliamentary 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 8: debating fashion. If you can't take it, go somewhere else. 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 8: Are you too soft for that next question? 91 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: So, as per usual, he turned the questions back on us. 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: And that's, of course that's not what he means. You 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: could just go back and physically see what he said 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: written down. He's absolutely out of line in terms of 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: what he's implying here and what he said. Meanwhile, the 96 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Greens are also calling out Shane Jones from the same 97 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: party for heckling in the house as well. Now it's 98 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: a little hard to hear. Have a listen of. 99 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: Human life decreases. But it's not just about human life. 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: So he yells send the Mexicans home. See if you 101 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: can make it up when I play it again. 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: Of human life decreases. 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: But it's not just so, the Green say. It's a 104 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: reference to the fact that Ricardo Menandez march a Green MP, 105 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: is from Mexico. So a little bit more explaining for 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: New Zealand First to do again It's like you pick 107 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: any day from the political calendar in the last twenty 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: five years and we're back to back to the future. 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: Really fantastic. What is it day too? And we're xenophobia 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: and racism top of the agenda? Jason, As I mean. 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: It as expected right, Well, I shouldn't have expected anything. 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Different, dear me. Jason Wall's News Talk SIB's political editor 113 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: with us from Wellington. 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