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Speaker 1: The gangs are back in Gisban. Last week there were

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Speaker 1: eight firearm and assult related incidents. A gang conflict warrant

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Speaker 1: has been issued. Now the Deputy Commissioner Tanya Kurras with

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Speaker 1: us on this time. Your morning to you, good morning,

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Speaker 1: how are you mane very well? Thank you? What are

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Speaker 1: the specifics of a gang conflict warrant? What happens when

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Speaker 1: you get one of those.

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Speaker 2: A range of powers for us, but it start quite

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Speaker 2: disruptive and basically what we aim for is disruption and

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Speaker 2: suppression of the activity. But it gives us the ability

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Speaker 2: to stop and search gang members and vehicles at any time,

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Speaker 2: quite invasive, because it's our choice and in our time.

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Speaker 2: On this particular warrant, we've got ability to go into vehicles,

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Speaker 2: which we've found works quite well. It seems to signal

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Speaker 2: really early two gang members and our community doesn't get

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Speaker 2: what you're doing. We're going to intervene. We can on

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Speaker 2: occasion get ability to go into people's homes, which also

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Speaker 2: that's quite invasive as well. On this particular occasion, dealing

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Speaker 2: with vehicles for the moment has made a bit of

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Speaker 2: a difference. We've seen we've had invoked the search power

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Speaker 2: five times in the last twenty four hours. Sees the

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Speaker 2: pure offensive weapons, that's things like you know, Batten's knives,

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Speaker 2: that type of stuff, and had one arrest for someone

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Speaker 2: who was wearing for the gang Patch band stuff. So

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Speaker 2: somebody wearing some gang of galia.

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Speaker 1: So this stuff you've done so far, is it enough

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Speaker 1: or you're going to need to do more?

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Speaker 2: Well. Investigations ongoing because ultimately, you know, we want somebody

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Speaker 2: locked up, we want somebody dealt with for the behavior itself.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that we're really thoughtful about is, you

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Speaker 2: know the gang the gun environment. You know, actually where

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Speaker 2: did those firearms come from? You know, how did they

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Speaker 2: get You know, there's a sense to be a continuous

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Speaker 2: supply that you know, interestingly for me is like looking

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Speaker 2: at Gisbone. You know this is an aunt goes you know,

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Speaker 2: month on months. We have this type of behavior between gangs.

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Speaker 2: An ability to resolve is you know that you use

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Speaker 2: firearms to resolve conflict. Some of it can be really

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Speaker 2: low level too, for stuff you go that is mental

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Speaker 2: that we're doing that, and I kind of I look

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Speaker 2: at that and go, you know, this goes on and

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Speaker 2: on and those you know, those communities and busy are

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Speaker 2: so resilient, and they they just kind of they look

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Speaker 2: at their gang members and go, oh my god, here

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Speaker 2: we go again.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm so I'm as sick of it as clearly

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Speaker 1: as clearly you are. The new powers and rules that

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Speaker 1: you have at your disposal. Do you get the sense

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Speaker 1: that they're working, because I'm just a bit depressed that

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Speaker 1: the gangs are back in the news, that's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually I think we'd all be probably pleasantly

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Speaker 2: surprised that the gang patch Bean has been really good.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of it's made that presence and a bit

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Speaker 2: of control come back into the situation. I think that's

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Speaker 2: you know, I to our staff, it's probably gone better

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Speaker 2: than we thought. But we don't want to rest on

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Speaker 2: our laurels either because it just drives a different type

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Speaker 2: of behavior. So I think that actually there has been

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Speaker 2: some success around that, but it's a long burn, like

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Speaker 2: we need to keep on. It doesn't mean that their

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Speaker 2: games have stopped behaving badly, you know, it means that

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Speaker 2: the public can feel that much better, So I think

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Speaker 2: it does. It has made a difference, and for our

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Speaker 2: staff it's also it's a really good saying when you

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Speaker 2: get the confidence to deal with things front for it.

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Speaker 2: That's really good too.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Tony. You're nice to talk to you and

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Speaker 1: go well with the good work. Tony Kurra, who's the

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Speaker 1: deputy police commissioner. Is it just me? I like it?

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