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Speaker 2: Hi Deck, you got to good afternoon. Welcome in. This

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Speaker 2: is Weekend Sport on News Talks VB for Sunday May four.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Rory McElroy, Happy birthday, Paul Weiseman. I'm Jason

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Speaker 2: Pine and a McDonald's show producer. We are here until

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Speaker 2: three talking sport. The Warriors second on the NRL Ladder

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Speaker 2: after our heart stopping thirty twenty six NRL victory over

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys and Magic rand and Brisbane last night. Five

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Speaker 2: first half tries had the Warriors ahead twenty eight twelve

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Speaker 2: at the break before the Cowboys surge back three tries

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Speaker 2: in eight minutes. The Warriors got there three wins on

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Speaker 2: the trot and coach Rich Aeger is with us from

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Speaker 2: Brisbane after one o'clock. And I know we say it

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Speaker 2: a lot, but is it is it our year? Your

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Speaker 2: Warrior's calls? Welcome After one o'clock this afternoon. The Hurricanes

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Speaker 2: up to fifth on the Super Rugby ladd of thirty

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Speaker 2: five seventeen winners over the Chiefs at Sky Stadium last night.

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary game this twenty six unanswered points in the second

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Speaker 2: half of the Hurricanes four trist Balen Sullivan. He's with

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Speaker 2: us this hour to reflect on that. Has he ever

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Speaker 2: got four tries in the game before or preview this

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Speaker 2: afternoon's final match of round twelve as well under the

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Speaker 2: roof in Dunedin Highland. Has the Mowana Pacific a pretty

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Speaker 2: vital game this You'd have to think that whoever wins

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Speaker 2: it stays well and truly in the hunt for the

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Speaker 2: top six. Whoever doesn't has their work cut out to

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Speaker 2: be involved post the regular season. Commentator Paul Allison checking

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Speaker 2: in before three o'clock from Dunedin and speaking of rugby.

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Speaker 2: First up, today's Super Rugby Pacific chair Kevin Malloy is

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Speaker 2: with us to talk about the competition in general terms.

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Speaker 2: How happy is he with the way the season's playing

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Speaker 2: out so far, the style of rugby, broadcast numbers, spectator

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Speaker 2: numbers and are there any work ons that he has

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Speaker 2: focused on? Your feedback always welcome to when we talk

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Speaker 2: rugby other matters around Today. Liam Lawson has qualified in

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Speaker 2: fifteenth spot for tomorrow's Miami Formula One Grand Prix. Earlier

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Speaker 2: our best ever performance turned into a bit of a

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Speaker 2: night there. Unfortunately in the sprint race he crossed the

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Speaker 2: five second penalty after the race, so he was stripped

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Speaker 2: of the two points that he had earned. Going to

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Speaker 2: cover off Liam Lawson and the Miami Grand Prix after

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Speaker 2: two with a mini motorsport panel for you, Eric Thompson

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Speaker 2: and Alex Powell. Together, we've got our finalist the World

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Speaker 2: Snooker Championship. Welshman and three time former champion Mark Williams

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Speaker 2: will come up against the Chinese player Jiao Chintong in

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Speaker 2: the final after their respective semi final win over jud

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Speaker 2: Trump and Ronne O'Sullivan. Michael Day out of the UK

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Speaker 2: on that after two, James mcconie along in his regular

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Speaker 2: slot as well Live Sport this afternoon Round one of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Playoffs coming to a conclusion. It's a deciding

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Speaker 2: Game seven between the Denver Nuggets and the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Clippers in Denver. They're into the second quarter of the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets with a narrow twenty eight to twenty six league

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Speaker 2: This National Basketball League action in Palmeston North this afternoon

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Speaker 2: fourth placed one or two Jets against the Giants, who

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Speaker 2: are eleventh. That's from one thirty. In the Sevens World

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Speaker 2: Championship in Los Angeles right now, the Blackfern Sevens are through.

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Speaker 2: They made it three from three with a win over

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Speaker 2: Canada earlier on today, qualifying top of Group A. In

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Speaker 2: the men's comp our men have won won and lost

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Speaker 2: final pall match against Australia, needing to win to make

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Speaker 2: the semis. They're ahead by twenty one points to nineteen

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Speaker 2: and we have just reached full time, but the ball

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Speaker 2: is still in play. We'll keep you up to date

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Speaker 2: with whether New Zealand can seal that match or not.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line you made a call

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Speaker 2: Four rounds to go in Super Rugby Pacific twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five and all to play for all eleven teams have

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Speaker 2: in contention for the playoffs. The Fiji and Drewer kept

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Speaker 2: their top six flame flickering yesterday with a last gasp

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Speaker 2: the Waratahs. In camera final match of the weekend this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: the Highlanders host Malwana Pacifica. A win for Maaana Pacifica

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Speaker 2: and plenty to play for as we enter the home

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Speaker 2: to chat with Super Rugby Pacific chairman Kevin malloy. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us on weekend Sport. Can we start

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Speaker 2: actually with the fact that all eleven teams are still

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, that is that is a key part of

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jeopardy is so important to the integrity of

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Speaker 2: Lots of things I want to discuss with you. Can

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Speaker 2: the way that the rugby is being played. How happy

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Speaker 3: But we're delighted obviously it's been. At the end of

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Speaker 2: I guess there's something you can't really influence too much

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we largely are.

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Speaker 3: But I think in the meetings and the conversations we've

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Speaker 3: And I think everybody can see that that the product

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Speaker 3: we've had great conversations with the officials, for example, who

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Speaker 2: Just on that. How happy are you with the way

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Speaker 5: Very happy?

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Speaker 3: It's a big part of it, isn't it. I Mean,

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Speaker 3: the referee has a massive influence in a rugby game.

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Speaker 3: So there's been a lot of dialogue with the officials

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Speaker 2: I guess you can look at a game and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: down into some metrics around that, are you seeing stats

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are. The stats around ball and playing and

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Speaker 3: everything surrounding that have definitely improved, and we're wondering those

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Speaker 2: You and I have also spoken about TMO involvement, or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an ongoing conversation the involvement in the TMO,

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Speaker 3: we're working pretty hard to make sure the game is

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Speaker 3: the TMO comes in and helps when it's appropriate, but

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Speaker 2: How are broadcast numbers for the competition that year?

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Speaker 3: Numbers are great, really healthy. We're at twelve percent here

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Speaker 3: nine in Australia and I think that's probably indicative of

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Speaker 3: how much better the Aussie teams are doing this year.

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Speaker 2: What about crowd numbers spectators turning up to games, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: World numbers are up, they're up here on a year,

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Speaker 3: but it's one area that I think we can work

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Speaker 3: know competitive in these markets we're in probably tough economic

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Speaker 3: how we can drive those crowd numbers up, because yep,

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Speaker 3: they're up, but they're not at the levels we want

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Speaker 2: Be at We've got an afternoon game this afternoon in Dunedin.

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Speaker 2: Are you keen in order to try and I guess

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Speaker 3: Yes, we ideally are. And one of the things that

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Speaker 7: All of those sort of.

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time and your accessibility this afternoon. All the

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Speaker 2: You, Kevin. Kevin Malloy, there's Super Rugby Pacific chair keen

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Speaker 2: Your chances to say, to pick up on anything there, oh,

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Speaker 2: You know, one of their work ons is increasing crowd numbers.

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Speaker 4: Good a piney. Listen save a spare seat next year

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Speaker 4: That'd be a great weekend. Hey, you just the fan

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Speaker 4: And the curtain raisers, yeah, look like a curtain raiser.

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Speaker 2: Love it, yeah, love it. And look, it won't get

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Speaker 2: Fiji match Day Program, curtain raiser.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twelve twenty eight once

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Speaker 2: News Talks, NB twelve thirty one on News Talks dB

433
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Speaker 2: counties still do a program pint he says this text

434
00:22:00,467 --> 00:22:04,267
Speaker 2: it's bloody call and match day program says Emma Tippuki

435
00:22:04,587 --> 00:22:07,467
Speaker 2: Rugby Club still does them. They're a great thing. I

436
00:22:07,467 --> 00:22:09,667
Speaker 2: love amxch day program. It's something you can take away

437
00:22:09,707 --> 00:22:11,987
Speaker 2: with you as well, isn't it. I know that's not

438
00:22:12,067 --> 00:22:13,067
Speaker 2: important to everybody.

439
00:22:13,747 --> 00:22:18,307
Speaker 6: Hello, Jerry, Yeah, I got I agree entirely with the

440
00:22:18,347 --> 00:22:21,667
Speaker 6: previous caller. Fantastic. He's born in nineteen fifty eight, so

441
00:22:22,507 --> 00:22:25,387
Speaker 6: he's a lot of us born in that year a

442
00:22:26,427 --> 00:22:32,227
Speaker 6: clear worldview, so good on him stuff Jerry, and no,

443
00:22:32,347 --> 00:22:37,307
Speaker 6: really good, really good. I get my rugby fixed at

444
00:22:37,387 --> 00:22:41,187
Speaker 6: my local country rugby club, where the ground is full

445
00:22:41,587 --> 00:22:44,627
Speaker 6: and it's fantastic, the be's play and the A's play.

446
00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:48,867
Speaker 6: I never go to Super Rugby. It just does my head.

447
00:22:49,427 --> 00:22:51,187
Speaker 6: But I do go to the All Blacks once a year,

448
00:22:52,627 --> 00:22:55,067
Speaker 6: but for two hundred and fifty dollars and I get

449
00:22:55,107 --> 00:23:01,907
Speaker 6: thirty minutes of tmo's advantage, forensic investigation of the last

450
00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:07,227
Speaker 6: five minutes of play and fifteen minutes of setting and

451
00:23:07,267 --> 00:23:11,867
Speaker 6: collapsing scrums does my head. And so for me it's yeah,

452
00:23:11,907 --> 00:23:14,387
Speaker 6: it's all those things, curt and raise, et cetera, fantastic

453
00:23:14,467 --> 00:23:20,547
Speaker 6: and afternoon rugby most certainly, but unfortunately rugby's product is

454
00:23:20,707 --> 00:23:24,467
Speaker 6: just diabolical for us old guys, where it's a whorey

455
00:23:24,507 --> 00:23:27,667
Speaker 6: old chest nut sitting around on a cold winter's night

456
00:23:28,027 --> 00:23:30,227
Speaker 6: watching the All Blacks. You play twohneld fifty bucks a

457
00:23:30,267 --> 00:23:36,947
Speaker 6: ticket and you just see scrums collapsing TMO sitting around

458
00:23:36,987 --> 00:23:41,907
Speaker 6: there twidlling your thumbs. It's just diabolical, And so that's

459
00:23:41,907 --> 00:23:45,187
Speaker 6: why I'll never go, never go to a Super rugby match.

460
00:23:46,227 --> 00:23:49,707
Speaker 6: It's bigger than just putting it on in the afternoon.

461
00:23:49,707 --> 00:23:52,667
Speaker 6: It's the product of rugby. That's why everyone goes to

462
00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:56,107
Speaker 6: the league. Yeah, at least when you're home watching Super Rugby,

463
00:23:56,187 --> 00:24:00,107
Speaker 6: you can you can, you know, go to the fridge,

464
00:24:00,187 --> 00:24:03,067
Speaker 6: get your glass of wine while they're setting scrums and

465
00:24:03,467 --> 00:24:07,267
Speaker 6: the referees playing five minutes of a hunt and going

466
00:24:07,307 --> 00:24:08,187
Speaker 6: back you know, you know.

467
00:24:08,227 --> 00:24:08,587
Speaker 4: What I mean.

468
00:24:08,987 --> 00:24:14,027
Speaker 2: I do descrumps, not collapse in club rugby, very little.

469
00:24:14,227 --> 00:24:19,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, club rugby, there's no bullshit. It's just totally it flows.

470
00:24:19,787 --> 00:24:24,107
Speaker 6: It takes an hour and a half and it's it's fabulous. Yeah, no,

471
00:24:24,147 --> 00:24:24,587
Speaker 6: they don't.

472
00:24:24,747 --> 00:24:27,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's something to it. Jerry, good on you mate.

473
00:24:27,827 --> 00:24:29,467
Speaker 2: Good to have a grassroots fan on the show. You'd

474
00:24:29,507 --> 00:24:31,107
Speaker 2: be a fan of a match day program as well.

475
00:24:31,267 --> 00:24:32,747
Speaker 2: I'm sure good to chat to you, mate. Thanks for

476
00:24:32,787 --> 00:24:35,147
Speaker 2: calling in. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty's our number.

477
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Speaker 5: Hello LB, Hi, good afternoon, Cure.

478
00:24:38,787 --> 00:24:40,747
Speaker 2: Luck sure cure.

479
00:24:41,387 --> 00:24:46,587
Speaker 5: The guy from the Hurricanes last night, Dolph. I don't

480
00:24:46,627 --> 00:24:48,867
Speaker 5: think he'll be back on the end of season.

481
00:24:49,507 --> 00:24:51,347
Speaker 2: I think you might be right. I'll be kidning the hole.

482
00:24:51,387 --> 00:24:55,467
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it always looks worse when it happens, you know,

483
00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:59,787
Speaker 2: just incidental. I saw a replay He's planted his foot

484
00:24:59,787 --> 00:25:03,507
Speaker 2: into the turf, his foot stayed there and his knees

485
00:25:03,547 --> 00:25:07,067
Speaker 2: carried on. It's never a good look, mate, a good look.

486
00:25:07,467 --> 00:25:07,547
Speaker 8: No.

487
00:25:08,387 --> 00:25:12,307
Speaker 5: Ten of my friends from about out Tavern, they took

488
00:25:12,347 --> 00:25:15,987
Speaker 5: off the other morning to go and watch the NRL

489
00:25:16,267 --> 00:25:21,747
Speaker 5: in Melbourne, and it was at night. I would have

490
00:25:21,747 --> 00:25:26,467
Speaker 5: had handled it flooding and rain, and I was wondering

491
00:25:26,507 --> 00:25:28,427
Speaker 5: if they're going to take off or not, but I

492
00:25:28,907 --> 00:25:34,067
Speaker 5: apparently they did, and over there for about ten days.

493
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:41,307
Speaker 5: In RL seems to be taking over our rugby because

494
00:25:41,427 --> 00:25:44,827
Speaker 5: they can play for twenty minutes for that the rest

495
00:25:44,947 --> 00:25:50,067
Speaker 5: interfere with a whistle. You know, it's very easy to watch.

496
00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:57,107
Speaker 5: I'm actually a cousin of Frank Endicop and I said

497
00:25:57,147 --> 00:26:02,747
Speaker 5: to him, what's the main thing you do when you play?

498
00:26:03,467 --> 00:26:06,147
Speaker 5: He says, when you put the wall on the ground

499
00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:11,827
Speaker 5: on your foot, you make eye contact to the first receiver.

500
00:26:12,547 --> 00:26:14,707
Speaker 5: It might be sort of the less like this is

501
00:26:14,747 --> 00:26:19,907
Speaker 5: the right, but he's the first receiver. And there's heads

502
00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:24,307
Speaker 5: of Frank. Oh Frank, the first drinks on you and

503
00:26:24,507 --> 00:26:28,147
Speaker 5: of behind him. And I said, I have a free

504
00:26:28,267 --> 00:26:29,827
Speaker 5: drink too, please, A.

505
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Speaker 2: Nice one, Helbi, good stuff. Hey, look, I think the

506
00:26:32,347 --> 00:26:35,867
Speaker 2: ball and play has speeded. It has got better than rugby. Look,

507
00:26:36,267 --> 00:26:38,947
Speaker 2: I've been a rugby fan forever, and I would still

508
00:26:39,027 --> 00:26:41,747
Speaker 2: watch a rugby game ahead of a rugby league game

509
00:26:41,787 --> 00:26:43,707
Speaker 2: if I ha to choose between the two and I

510
00:26:43,947 --> 00:26:46,627
Speaker 2: for example, last night, I was at the Hurricanes game,

511
00:26:46,707 --> 00:26:49,067
Speaker 2: but if I had to choose between Hurricanes and Warriors,

512
00:26:49,267 --> 00:26:52,947
Speaker 2: two of my teams, I personally would watch the Hurricanes play.

513
00:26:53,187 --> 00:26:55,307
Speaker 2: That's just me. I know that I might not be

514
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:58,387
Speaker 2: in the majority. I might be. We've all got our preferences.

515
00:26:58,387 --> 00:27:01,067
Speaker 2: But I think the ball and play has improved this year.

516
00:27:01,267 --> 00:27:04,427
Speaker 2: Listening to Kevin malloy talk about it before you know,

517
00:27:04,467 --> 00:27:06,667
Speaker 2: the stats would show that. Yes, I know that there

518
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,747
Speaker 2: are stoppages. I know that the TMO, though is involved,

519
00:27:09,787 --> 00:27:13,227
Speaker 2: far less. I don't think the TMO got involved at

520
00:27:13,227 --> 00:27:15,867
Speaker 2: all last night in the Hurricanes Chiefs gin not that

521
00:27:15,907 --> 00:27:20,307
Speaker 2: I can remember anyway. Oh eight hundred eighty ten ideas

522
00:27:20,307 --> 00:27:24,187
Speaker 2: and I'll be good to chet you mate, hello, grunt yeah, pinte.

523
00:27:23,987 --> 00:27:27,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean more than play definitely has improved this

524
00:27:27,507 --> 00:27:30,387
Speaker 9: year with the new rules compared to last year. Okay,

525
00:27:30,507 --> 00:27:34,147
Speaker 9: league still has more ball and play time than rugby,

526
00:27:34,187 --> 00:27:39,667
Speaker 9: but rugby rugby is improving. And the one thing that

527
00:27:39,747 --> 00:27:43,227
Speaker 9: annoys me, though, is a stupid International Rugby board rule

528
00:27:43,507 --> 00:27:47,227
Speaker 9: that they can't change the rules within two years of

529
00:27:47,627 --> 00:27:51,187
Speaker 9: the next World Cup. So that means that unless unless

530
00:27:51,227 --> 00:27:54,627
Speaker 9: they're watching Super Rugby seeing, yes, all these new rules

531
00:27:54,987 --> 00:27:58,747
Speaker 9: have improved Super rugby, unless they change them for the

532
00:27:59,267 --> 00:28:02,467
Speaker 9: international game before the end of this year, then we'll

533
00:28:02,507 --> 00:28:05,707
Speaker 9: be unfortunately, we'll be playing the twenty seven World Cup

534
00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:07,307
Speaker 9: under the slower rules.

535
00:28:07,707 --> 00:28:09,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby steps though, grant right, I mean what we

536
00:28:09,867 --> 00:28:13,707
Speaker 2: see ourselves is still we can still I think enjoy

537
00:28:13,827 --> 00:28:16,107
Speaker 2: the rule changes and the effect on the game here.

538
00:28:16,147 --> 00:28:18,587
Speaker 2: You're right, it does take. I mean often world rugby

539
00:28:18,627 --> 00:28:21,627
Speaker 2: moves at glacial speed, and the rule that you've pointed

540
00:28:21,627 --> 00:28:23,187
Speaker 2: out there about the two years, I mean it's obvious

541
00:28:23,227 --> 00:28:25,667
Speaker 2: White's there, so teams can get used to playing at

542
00:28:25,707 --> 00:28:28,267
Speaker 2: international level, obviously, But yeah, I mean one step at

543
00:28:28,267 --> 00:28:29,907
Speaker 2: a time, mate, I think we can still enjoy what's

544
00:28:29,907 --> 00:28:31,027
Speaker 2: happening in our own backyard.

545
00:28:31,067 --> 00:28:33,987
Speaker 9: One year, poney, one year is close enough. One year's

546
00:28:34,027 --> 00:28:36,947
Speaker 9: plenty time do you happen to practice? Not two years?

547
00:28:37,947 --> 00:28:40,547
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Grant. I like the way you're thinking things. Indeed,

548
00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:42,867
Speaker 2: Mus says, you're basically talking to people in the main

549
00:28:42,867 --> 00:28:44,907
Speaker 2: center's piney because the super teams don't bother coming to

550
00:28:44,987 --> 00:28:47,267
Speaker 2: us in the smaller towns. Well again, Kevin Willloy said

551
00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:49,507
Speaker 2: that must you would have heard him that he's keen

552
00:28:49,587 --> 00:28:53,827
Speaker 2: to see to see the teams take more games to

553
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:56,947
Speaker 2: smaller centers. You'ret a fan and me you're always a

554
00:28:56,947 --> 00:29:00,627
Speaker 2: fan of you know, watching a team play somewhere outside

555
00:29:00,627 --> 00:29:05,187
Speaker 2: their their main center. A Patahama game day on the grass.

556
00:29:05,227 --> 00:29:07,227
Speaker 2: I know it's important to you. What it off the grass?

557
00:29:08,587 --> 00:29:11,187
Speaker 10: Oh, the Pioneer, the Caketon was a rocking last night.

558
00:29:11,267 --> 00:29:16,467
Speaker 10: What for forty minutes anyway?

559
00:29:16,507 --> 00:29:17,707
Speaker 7: How good? Yeah? Yeah.

560
00:29:17,747 --> 00:29:20,547
Speaker 10: My Kief's fan mate next to me, she she wasn't

561
00:29:20,547 --> 00:29:27,347
Speaker 10: happy the I think the Kames game experience is fine.

562
00:29:27,587 --> 00:29:33,107
Speaker 10: You know they they use those stoppages well with uh

563
00:29:33,467 --> 00:29:36,347
Speaker 10: you know, your Simba cams and big you know, the

564
00:29:36,427 --> 00:29:39,067
Speaker 10: kids get into that rubbish because they do all that

565
00:29:39,107 --> 00:29:41,867
Speaker 10: stuff pretty well. A half times of that seo. I

566
00:29:41,907 --> 00:29:45,267
Speaker 10: feel like they overcomplicated, you know, I like the next

567
00:29:45,307 --> 00:29:47,307
Speaker 10: one day with the hit the posts, so you know,

568
00:29:47,307 --> 00:29:49,707
Speaker 10: people like those sort of skill challenges from punters out there,

569
00:29:49,707 --> 00:29:52,787
Speaker 10: but I don't think it's important. It's the product. And

570
00:29:52,867 --> 00:29:55,787
Speaker 10: I feel like so the in game experience they do

571
00:29:55,867 --> 00:29:58,267
Speaker 10: pretty good. They could do more with our alied lights.

572
00:29:58,387 --> 00:30:02,587
Speaker 10: I think you know they could, you know, because again,

573
00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:07,387
Speaker 10: certain people like that sort of stuff. Second, prices are

574
00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:09,907
Speaker 10: pretty reasonable. People are always going to moan about food

575
00:30:09,947 --> 00:30:14,227
Speaker 10: and bed, but that's they just don't seem to want

576
00:30:14,267 --> 00:30:17,027
Speaker 10: to really deal with that situation. And I feel like

577
00:30:17,027 --> 00:30:18,587
Speaker 10: it might be a bit of a red hearing anyway.

578
00:30:20,147 --> 00:30:23,627
Speaker 10: The they could learn not from regular league though, in

579
00:30:23,747 --> 00:30:26,427
Speaker 10: terms of you know how that was it. Kevin, he

580
00:30:26,547 --> 00:30:30,027
Speaker 10: was talking about the off season narratives and I think

581
00:30:30,027 --> 00:30:34,547
Speaker 10: you were talking about our super Rugby drafts. We sort

582
00:30:34,547 --> 00:30:36,107
Speaker 10: of know how they do it, right. They sort of

583
00:30:36,107 --> 00:30:38,787
Speaker 10: can keep stardier than they That would be cool. I

584
00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:41,227
Speaker 10: don't we don't want to go full NBA, full NFL,

585
00:30:41,347 --> 00:30:44,547
Speaker 10: but I feel like if it was sort of live

586
00:30:44,587 --> 00:30:47,307
Speaker 10: stream somewhere and coaches are on the clock and you

587
00:30:47,307 --> 00:30:52,107
Speaker 10: could see, you know them, Callum Hacken and the and

588
00:30:52,147 --> 00:30:54,427
Speaker 10: the thing, and you know that that sort of thing

589
00:30:54,467 --> 00:30:58,067
Speaker 10: would still be interesting. Off signing, off season signing narratives

590
00:30:58,147 --> 00:31:00,787
Speaker 10: because Fox League and the n RL they do it

591
00:31:00,827 --> 00:31:04,947
Speaker 10: so well. Social media is essentially free a piney, It's

592
00:31:05,027 --> 00:31:11,107
Speaker 10: essentially free. And Rugby is still too complacent with their position.

593
00:31:12,427 --> 00:31:15,507
Speaker 10: And we're also as fans, Kings are a bit useless

594
00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:18,027
Speaker 10: at turning up as well. I hate to say it,

595
00:31:18,067 --> 00:31:23,707
Speaker 10: but we look for excuses not to go sometimes. Feel like,

596
00:31:23,827 --> 00:31:25,547
Speaker 10: you know, I was out all day last night and

597
00:31:25,627 --> 00:31:27,347
Speaker 10: I was rushing around to get there last night, and

598
00:31:27,387 --> 00:31:29,707
Speaker 10: I was happy I did, but I feel like I'm

599
00:31:29,707 --> 00:31:33,107
Speaker 10: a bit of an anomaly. And there's other options for people,

600
00:31:33,107 --> 00:31:35,227
Speaker 10: but that are also programs too.

601
00:31:35,267 --> 00:31:35,387
Speaker 11: Bro.

602
00:31:35,547 --> 00:31:40,627
Speaker 10: Sorry, the Saints have like a digital program which is

603
00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:42,867
Speaker 10: pretty cool, QR codes when you go in there, and

604
00:31:43,307 --> 00:31:45,827
Speaker 10: you know, I'll sit down and have a look through it.

605
00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:47,587
Speaker 10: I'll scan it and have a look through that on

606
00:31:47,627 --> 00:31:50,267
Speaker 10: my phone and I got bad eyes like some of

607
00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:51,747
Speaker 10: those old boys that rag in. But you know, you

608
00:31:51,747 --> 00:31:54,147
Speaker 10: can look on your phone and at half time or

609
00:31:54,187 --> 00:31:57,307
Speaker 10: whatever and go through it and check out the players

610
00:31:57,307 --> 00:32:01,067
Speaker 10: and whatnot. You know, so there's options if these guys

611
00:32:01,267 --> 00:32:03,027
Speaker 10: want to do it. But you know, our super franchise,

612
00:32:03,107 --> 00:32:05,747
Speaker 10: they don't have much money. A lot of them are struggling.

613
00:32:06,947 --> 00:32:08,787
Speaker 10: So it always comes down to money at the end

614
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:10,987
Speaker 10: of day. That day, piny, that's that year with the canes.

615
00:32:11,627 --> 00:32:15,187
Speaker 2: We're on a Yeah, look I was like you, I was,

616
00:32:15,227 --> 00:32:17,267
Speaker 2: so I'm press last night at Padahama. Great to chat

617
00:32:17,307 --> 00:32:19,947
Speaker 2: to your made us always always enjoy your contributions, just

618
00:32:20,027 --> 00:32:23,027
Speaker 2: on the program. I still like holding a program in

619
00:32:23,067 --> 00:32:25,507
Speaker 2: my hand. I must say, look, I get the digital stuff,

620
00:32:25,507 --> 00:32:27,147
Speaker 2: and a lot of them have gone digital, haven't they

621
00:32:27,547 --> 00:32:29,987
Speaker 2: Like a Badahama just said, you scan a QR code

622
00:32:30,027 --> 00:32:32,627
Speaker 2: with your phone when you get to the venue, and

623
00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,547
Speaker 2: it can't you know, it takes you to and you

624
00:32:34,587 --> 00:32:35,867
Speaker 2: just scroll through it on your phone. And we're so

625
00:32:36,027 --> 00:32:38,747
Speaker 2: used to scrolling our phones now that it's it's not

626
00:32:38,907 --> 00:32:41,187
Speaker 2: foreign to us. But I still like the idea. I

627
00:32:41,187 --> 00:32:44,307
Speaker 2: don't know, it's very old fashioned, I know, and probably

628
00:32:44,347 --> 00:32:46,187
Speaker 2: showing my age of it here, but I like leafing

629
00:32:46,307 --> 00:32:49,027
Speaker 2: through a program. I like the smell of it, even

630
00:32:49,107 --> 00:32:50,227
Speaker 2: on you know, and you get a bit of ink

631
00:32:50,307 --> 00:32:52,627
Speaker 2: on your fingers, and I don't know, maybe I'm getting

632
00:32:52,627 --> 00:32:55,627
Speaker 2: a bit nostalgic. Good to chat to you, Padahamma. Ian

633
00:32:55,627 --> 00:32:57,387
Speaker 2: C switched off from going to Super Robe game five

634
00:32:57,467 --> 00:33:01,307
Speaker 2: years ago. Night games poor user experience with kids. But

635
00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:03,507
Speaker 2: I've been the four Auckland FC football games at five

636
00:33:03,547 --> 00:33:05,947
Speaker 2: o'clock over the summer. Great to take the kids.

637
00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:07,707
Speaker 11: Ian.

638
00:33:07,747 --> 00:33:09,947
Speaker 2: You're so right and look, Auckland FC have done a

639
00:33:09,987 --> 00:33:12,467
Speaker 2: lot of things right. One that they've got bang on

640
00:33:12,627 --> 00:33:16,227
Speaker 2: is kickoff time. Five o'clock kickoff time is an absolute

641
00:33:17,187 --> 00:33:20,347
Speaker 2: bull's eye as far as the fan experience is concerned,

642
00:33:20,587 --> 00:33:21,987
Speaker 2: and they would have had to work hard to get

643
00:33:21,987 --> 00:33:25,907
Speaker 2: that because the Australian broadcasters wouldn't have been a big

644
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Speaker 2: fan of a five o'clock kickoff because it's three o'clock

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Speaker 2: over there. They'd prefer a night game here, which at

646
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Speaker 2: least is the late afternoon early evening over there. Dave

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Speaker 2: says Piney. For me, it's just cost transport, parking, ticket prices,

648
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Speaker 2: maybe a beer and a feed. I used to go

649
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Speaker 2: to every Crusader's home game with my daughter, but it's

650
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Speaker 2: just become unaffordable. I can see the Canterbury Rams for

651
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Speaker 2: ten bucks in the warm. It's sad, but I'll never

652
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Speaker 2: get to sample the new stadium that my rates are

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Speaker 2: paying for. David, I hope you do get the chance.

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Speaker 2: I get it, and I think cost is a barrier

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Speaker 2: a big barrier, and as a Partahamma was just saying

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Speaker 2: that I've often said you only need one trigger not

657
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Speaker 2: to go. Whether it's cost, whether it's the time of

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Speaker 2: the game, whether it's the day of the game, whether

659
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Speaker 2: it's the weather, whether it's the opposition, you only need

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Speaker 2: one thing. Say you know what, I'll stay on the

661
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Speaker 2: couch today, I won't go. There is still nothing I

662
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Speaker 2: don't think like being at live sport. And if you

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Speaker 2: think of the amazing live sporting events you've been to

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Speaker 2: and the experience of being there, I would not trade

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Speaker 2: being at the All Whites bar Rain game for anything.

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Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that you would have got the

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Speaker 2: experience of that night watching on the couch because you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have. Same with the Rugby World Cup Final of

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven. I wasn't there, but I can only imagine

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Speaker 2: what it must have been like there, the tension in

671
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Speaker 2: that crowd watching it happen right out in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Yes there was tension on the television, absolutely there was

673
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Speaker 2: for the rest of us, but being there, you cannot

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Speaker 2: replicate it. You can't sixteen to one Chris hold there

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Speaker 2: spie a line. If you want to jump on Oh

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back at a moment, the.

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Speaker 1: Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport. It's Weekend

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Speaker 2: Evy thirteen to one From Peter, I have rugby programs

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Speaker 2: and club rugby websites. Thanks Ross. Yeah, I know it's

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Speaker 2: moved on, and it's a cost that perhaps not every

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Speaker 2: club or organization's going to want to wear. But I

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Speaker 2: think there's still a lot to be said for a

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Speaker 2: physical match day program.

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Speaker 11: Hello Chris, Yeah, okoday. Yeah, I just wanted to reply

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Speaker 11: to or make and about what that guy's was born

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Speaker 11: in nineteen fifty eight. The found there all the generalization,

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Speaker 11: stereotypes and absolute bollocks. He was talking like you said,

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Speaker 11: there there weren't any TMO things last night. There weren't

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Speaker 11: any yellow cards or egg cards last night weather And

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Speaker 11: I can't maybe it was the one scrum mead resetting,

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Speaker 11: but when you got nearly a ton on one side

701
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Speaker 11: pushing against the toun on the other side, and there's

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Speaker 11: you know, just bones and sinews and things holding next together,

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Speaker 11: and I completely understand why they do take a bit

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Speaker 11: of time and get it right. But every now and

705
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Speaker 11: then there are a few, and quite a few sometimes,

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Speaker 11: but that they are very very rare. And I see

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Speaker 11: heaps and he said, another one said, don't take kids. Well,

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Speaker 11: I see heaps of kids at FMG, like at a

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Speaker 11: stadium and that. And you know, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 11: shades of shades of people. Last week I saw.

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Speaker 7: You.

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Speaker 11: For this time, I think I've seen a man and

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Speaker 11: the son and the lady who was obviously Muslim because

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Speaker 11: she had a he jubb on and they would get

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Speaker 11: they were there, and they've seen Asian people there, and

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Speaker 11: a few weeks ago I actually saw an Asian lady

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Speaker 11: who was working in the food thing. Another fellow worker

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Speaker 11: was Maori was explaining to her about the you know,

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Speaker 11: when you kicked the ball through the posts, you get

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Speaker 11: two more points, you know, the finer points of rugby.

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Speaker 11: So there's all sorts and traps of people there.

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Speaker 2: Chris, look everything you've said on nodding along to absolutely,

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Speaker 2: and you're right about about I think you know, you say, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's better for families at a certain time, but I

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Speaker 2: mean the games are Fridays and Saturdays for the most part,

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Speaker 2: it's not the kids have to go to school the

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Speaker 2: next day. Yes, I know they con get a bit grizzly,

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Speaker 2: and but you know, the younger ones in particular, they

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Speaker 2: won't last the eighty minutes. I mean, would they last

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Speaker 2: the eighty minutes at five o'clock in the afternoon, two

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon, I don't know. That's maybe when

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Speaker 2: you get the match day entertainment. But I agree. I

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Speaker 2: think the spectacle of Super Rugby this year has been terrific.

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Speaker 2: I've loved watching it. I've watched games I wouldn't normally watch,

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Speaker 2: and man, it's my job to watch rugby. I've watched

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Speaker 2: pretty much every single game this year. And I'm loving it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And I've seen two or one or two month old

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Speaker 11: babies there. People take them, so you can take all.

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Speaker 11: It's just what your attitude and your attitude to those

742
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Speaker 11: guys for some reason hate rugby. I don't know why.

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Speaker 11: I actually sat next to a guy sounded like that

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Speaker 11: at the Lahaw Cup final Antiquity last year and he is, oh,

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Speaker 11: there's about the red cards and yellow cards and scrums collapsing.

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Speaker 11: And I don't know why. Some of these older people

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Speaker 11: and that guy is only three years older than me,

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Speaker 11: the fifty eight year old, fifty nine born fifty eight guy.

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Speaker 11: I don't know why they got this attitude and that

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Speaker 11: they just they played rugby all their life probably and

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Speaker 11: now they just hate it. I do not understand them.

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Speaker 11: And I don't watch. If the league is on early,

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Speaker 11: I'll watch it, but if a game games studn't it

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Speaker 11: usually at ten o'clock, I'm not going to stay up

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Speaker 11: and watch the end of that, which is close to midnight.

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Speaker 11: Did I watch turned Over after after the Canes Chiefs

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Speaker 11: game last night and watched the Warriors. That was great. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I really love love I hope the Warriors do well

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Speaker 11: always do.

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Speaker 2: Go on your Chris great great points, well made and

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Speaker 2: from a positive point of view too. Yeah, you often here,

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Speaker 2: they don't you grizzling and grumbling at the game. Why

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Speaker 2: have you come? You don't have to come. Nobody's making you,

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Speaker 2: Tony says Jason still got a season sick of the Canes.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch them live whenever I can have done so

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Speaker 2: from the start, and I don't think that'll change anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Now and again you get rewarded with games like last night.

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby could look at other sports and change the

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Speaker 2: way we distribute our top players and provide a bit

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Speaker 2: more to rugby packages. Kids should all go for free

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Speaker 2: for Super games, for example. Get them in early and

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Speaker 2: you've got a fan for life. Thanks Tony Pinel went

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Speaker 2: to the Rugby World Cup semi final and final in Japan,

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Speaker 2: an amazing experience despite the result. The food and drink

775
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Speaker 2: reasonably priced, easy to get. Transport was also simple, even

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Speaker 2: going from Tokyo to Yokohama and back on the train.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, indeed for your causing correspondence. Back with

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Speaker 2: more in a moments seven to.

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Speaker 1: One, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world,

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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Hime. They call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighties and eighty News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Sam on TeX's Ponty Totlly of girth you on taking

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Speaker 2: a super out of fig Not only would it economically

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Speaker 2: reward nation that's provided so much to super rugby and

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Speaker 2: international rugby in terms of passion and talent, it would

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Speaker 2: attract a more diverse fan base from both New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and Australia, more so than somewhere like to Need and We.

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Speaker 2: You'd probably just get mainly key with showing up. Thanks Sam,

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Speaker 2: good point. And I love going to watch the games,

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Speaker 2: says this one. But the volume of the music is

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Speaker 2: now so loud you can't follow the game. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how players can hear themselves think at times. So

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Speaker 2: I'm seriously considering whether I'll buy a membership ticket next season.

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Speaker 2: They still need to remember they're older fans. I'm a

795
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Speaker 2: sixty three year old female, not old at all, but

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Speaker 2: I do get your point on the music. I know

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Speaker 2: it does annoy a lot of people. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: all your calls and particularly your correspondent. So many texts

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Speaker 2: and so many long texts, too well thought out, really

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Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time. After one the Warriors our.

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Speaker 1: Years the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

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Speaker 10: It's all on weekends.

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Speaker 1: Forward with Jason Vade on your home of Sport.

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Speaker 2: Or welcome in one oh seven's the time. I'm Jason Pine.

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Speaker 2: This is Weekend Sport. Any McDonald the show producer. We're

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Speaker 2: here till three warror Is this out well to start

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Speaker 2: at anyway? Rich Agar standing by to chat to us,

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Speaker 2: assistant coach with the Warriors want to win last night

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Speaker 2: thirty twenty six. They got a bit close near the end,

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Speaker 2: it would be fair to say, but job done for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. Three wins on the bounds Broncos, Knights, Cowboys

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Speaker 2: for the meantime up to second on the NRL Ladder.

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Speaker 2: There are still a couple of games to go. Three

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Speaker 2: in fact, I think in magic rounds before the final

816
00:42:35,827 --> 00:42:39,227
Speaker 2: shape of the table. Titans Bulldogs ten to four this afternoon,

817
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Speaker 2: Panthers Broncos five past six, Storm Raiders. That'll be a

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Speaker 2: cracker eight twenty five to finish magic round. But as

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Speaker 2: we look at the table right now, the Warriors are

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Speaker 2: on fourteen points. They're equal top of the Bulldogs, who

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Speaker 2: have played one less game. The Storm are lurking, the

822
00:43:00,307 --> 00:43:05,027
Speaker 2: Raiders are lurking. But the Warriors will finish the weekend

823
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Speaker 2: and the top three because the Storm and Raiders both

824
00:43:07,747 --> 00:43:12,187
Speaker 2: can't get two points? Can they our? Yeah, Ken to

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Speaker 2: here your thoughts, James mcconey this hour as well, and

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Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on live sport, including what's happening

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Speaker 2: in Game seven, the final game of the best of

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Speaker 2: seven series between the Denver Nuggets and the LA Clippers,

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Speaker 2: and Denver. Denver are running away with it eighty two

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Speaker 2: fifty four. They lead with five minutes to go in

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Speaker 2: the third quarter. The graphic on the screen says win

832
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Speaker 2: or go home. It looks as though the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Clippers will be going home and it'll be the Denver

834
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Speaker 2: Nuggets who advance. Will keep eyes on that for you. Your

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Speaker 2: calls are always welcome. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty ninety two, ninety two. If you would prefer to

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Speaker 2: correspond by text.

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Speaker 11: This is it.

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Speaker 13: This proclean not supposed to have it dropped over worries

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Speaker 13: wexi Grant stuggle. The Warriors have dune something. Have what's

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Speaker 13: an eighteen pointly just seat the great. A try saving

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Speaker 13: tackle from Metcalf on taw Lovey has provenibly the difference

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Speaker 13: and may those fans celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they celebrated indeed in a good contingent of Warriors

845
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Speaker 2: fans there at Magic Round. They'll be enjoying themselves today.

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Speaker 2: I think most people have gone over for the whole weekend,

847
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Speaker 2: haven't they, And they'll just stay there until until well,

848
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Speaker 2: I guess they'll just stay there until the end of today.

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Speaker 2: A Luke Metcalf masterclass. The Warriors holding on for a

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Speaker 2: thirty twenty six win over the Cowboys. Metcalf scoring two tries,

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Speaker 2: kicking five off his seven goals and making a try

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Speaker 2: saving tackle late in the match. So the Warriors hanging

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Speaker 2: on for a thirty twenty six win. Rich A Garp

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Speaker 2: assistant coaches with us from the airport. I know you've

855
00:44:58,427 --> 00:45:01,187
Speaker 2: got to jump on a plane quickly, Rich or shortly anyway,

856
00:45:01,267 --> 00:45:04,027
Speaker 2: So thanks for joining us quickly on the show giving

857
00:45:04,107 --> 00:45:07,187
Speaker 2: up the overnight test. How do you evaluate performance last

858
00:45:07,267 --> 00:45:09,467
Speaker 2: night and the win over the Cowboys?

859
00:45:09,907 --> 00:45:10,147
Speaker 7: Yeah?

860
00:45:10,187 --> 00:45:13,187
Speaker 14: Goodwin, really, I think you know. First off, obviously we

861
00:45:13,267 --> 00:45:18,427
Speaker 14: played some really good football in quite testing conditions, but

862
00:45:18,507 --> 00:45:20,827
Speaker 14: we faced a lot of adversity through the game. You know,

863
00:45:20,827 --> 00:45:23,387
Speaker 14: we lost obviously lost Rock Oberry, but I don't know

864
00:45:24,387 --> 00:45:26,907
Speaker 14: public people know, but Ed Coss he carried a you know,

865
00:45:27,027 --> 00:45:30,867
Speaker 14: pretty major shoulder injury with him from from ten minutes

866
00:45:30,867 --> 00:45:32,427
Speaker 14: into the game. Really, you know, he had a shirt

867
00:45:32,427 --> 00:45:35,067
Speaker 14: off at half time, were struggling to get his his

868
00:45:35,147 --> 00:45:37,667
Speaker 14: playing jumper back on and managed to see the eighteen

869
00:45:37,667 --> 00:45:41,547
Speaker 14: minutes out. So you know, we were very much busted

870
00:45:41,587 --> 00:45:43,027
Speaker 14: up during the game. And I think there were a

871
00:45:43,067 --> 00:45:46,147
Speaker 14: couple of big momentum calls, you know, the seven tackle

872
00:45:46,227 --> 00:45:51,427
Speaker 14: set where we feel, you know, we wanted to challenge

873
00:45:51,427 --> 00:45:54,827
Speaker 14: that because it was a wrong call, and there were

874
00:45:54,907 --> 00:45:58,187
Speaker 14: used a couple of opportunities in there where through a

875
00:45:58,187 --> 00:46:01,227
Speaker 14: couple of calls, and I think the opportunities for us

876
00:46:01,267 --> 00:46:04,147
Speaker 14: to kill the momentum that you know, we didn't quite

877
00:46:04,187 --> 00:46:06,907
Speaker 14: treat by hanging on to kicks and don't bear a

878
00:46:06,947 --> 00:46:09,147
Speaker 14: good side. They can put posts or they can put

879
00:46:09,187 --> 00:46:13,267
Speaker 14: points on people very very quickly, which to be dnals

880
00:46:13,347 --> 00:46:15,307
Speaker 14: last night. But I thought the resilience in which we

881
00:46:15,347 --> 00:46:17,867
Speaker 14: showed at the end when you know, we were under

882
00:46:17,867 --> 00:46:20,387
Speaker 14: the pump and clearly fatigued from the amount of defending.

883
00:46:20,467 --> 00:46:21,067
Speaker 15: Do showed.

884
00:46:21,867 --> 00:46:22,987
Speaker 14: It showed a lot of character.

885
00:46:23,347 --> 00:46:26,027
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf, couple of tries, five of us, even goals,

886
00:46:26,027 --> 00:46:28,107
Speaker 2: Trice iving tackle, lighting the match and now it's a

887
00:46:28,147 --> 00:46:30,547
Speaker 2: team game. But can you can talk Can you talk

888
00:46:30,587 --> 00:46:32,427
Speaker 2: about Luke Mtcalf's influence last night?

889
00:46:33,467 --> 00:46:33,707
Speaker 14: Yeah?

890
00:46:33,747 --> 00:46:34,027
Speaker 7: Great?

891
00:46:34,347 --> 00:46:36,307
Speaker 14: Uh, you know, I thought we had a good platform

892
00:46:36,347 --> 00:46:38,507
Speaker 14: for him, and we've played with a lot of power

893
00:46:38,507 --> 00:46:41,147
Speaker 14: and dominance early. But I thought the way that you know,

894
00:46:41,187 --> 00:46:43,667
Speaker 14: they went after the game from an attack point of view,

895
00:46:44,907 --> 00:46:47,587
Speaker 14: executed the players really really well, and there was someone

896
00:46:47,667 --> 00:46:51,427
Speaker 14: scripted stuff and there took a fantastic short side. We

897
00:46:51,547 --> 00:46:53,867
Speaker 14: love it when Luke gets out the back of shape

898
00:46:53,867 --> 00:46:56,267
Speaker 14: and runs the ball. You feel that that's when he's

899
00:46:56,867 --> 00:46:59,107
Speaker 14: at the most threatening. I thought it was probably the

900
00:46:59,107 --> 00:47:03,187
Speaker 14: best forty minutes of our halves, just finding that balance

901
00:47:03,227 --> 00:47:06,387
Speaker 14: between playing on the ball and then both running and

902
00:47:06,387 --> 00:47:10,307
Speaker 14: and even a couple of opportunities that maybe we you know,

903
00:47:10,347 --> 00:47:13,027
Speaker 14: we didn't quite take. I thought he is the combination

904
00:47:13,187 --> 00:47:17,867
Speaker 14: between Chanelle and Luke, you know, certainly enabled Loop to

905
00:47:17,867 --> 00:47:20,147
Speaker 14: capitalize on some of the good positions that we had,

906
00:47:20,227 --> 00:47:25,267
Speaker 14: and you know, he's try saving tackle is a standout

907
00:47:25,547 --> 00:47:27,627
Speaker 14: moment in the game for us. But I also think

908
00:47:27,667 --> 00:47:29,187
Speaker 14: there were a lot of defense at the end that

909
00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:31,427
Speaker 14: you know, when we were really under the pump. We

910
00:47:31,587 --> 00:47:33,307
Speaker 14: you know, we did tosse errors and we did stop

911
00:47:33,307 --> 00:47:35,387
Speaker 14: on getting down the other end, and we needed to offel.

912
00:47:35,467 --> 00:47:36,467
Speaker 16: But even though.

913
00:47:38,067 --> 00:47:41,347
Speaker 14: You know, we we would had lost that momentum that

914
00:47:41,467 --> 00:47:43,987
Speaker 14: led to points, I thought we had just gradually start

915
00:47:44,067 --> 00:47:46,387
Speaker 14: to turn the tide in the last sort of ten

916
00:47:46,427 --> 00:47:47,107
Speaker 14: minutes of the game.

917
00:47:47,907 --> 00:47:51,307
Speaker 2: How important was the bounce back after the Storm game rich,

918
00:47:51,347 --> 00:47:56,267
Speaker 2: you know, Broncos Knights, Cowboys three big wins. How important

919
00:47:56,427 --> 00:47:58,907
Speaker 2: was it to bounce back from the disappointment against the

920
00:47:58,947 --> 00:48:00,187
Speaker 2: Storm a month or so ago.

921
00:48:00,947 --> 00:48:02,267
Speaker 14: Well, I just I just think when you have a

922
00:48:02,267 --> 00:48:05,227
Speaker 14: poor performance, it's always important, and it's tests the character.

923
00:48:05,547 --> 00:48:09,267
Speaker 14: I think the bigger bounce back for us really more

924
00:48:09,307 --> 00:48:12,107
Speaker 14: after round one, where you know, we were majorly disappointing

925
00:48:12,387 --> 00:48:14,707
Speaker 14: it over in Las Vegas, and you know, we played

926
00:48:14,787 --> 00:48:17,947
Speaker 14: a red hop manly team that day and had a

927
00:48:17,987 --> 00:48:20,787
Speaker 14: you know, fairly dominant performance. So we've done it twice

928
00:48:20,827 --> 00:48:24,147
Speaker 14: this year on the back of you, on the back

929
00:48:24,187 --> 00:48:27,067
Speaker 14: of our obviously our poorest performances. I do you think

930
00:48:27,067 --> 00:48:30,267
Speaker 14: it's indicatively the competition at the moment. I think, you know,

931
00:48:30,267 --> 00:48:34,507
Speaker 14: when you look around, you know, anybody can be anybody,

932
00:48:34,547 --> 00:48:39,107
Speaker 14: and it's a very very tight competition really from you know,

933
00:48:39,147 --> 00:48:42,107
Speaker 14: the first sort of fourteen places in the competition at

934
00:48:42,107 --> 00:48:43,587
Speaker 14: the moment, a couple of wins and a couple of

935
00:48:43,627 --> 00:48:46,147
Speaker 14: losses can see you drastically move up or down the table.

936
00:48:46,267 --> 00:48:50,267
Speaker 14: So I think, you know, in answer to your original question,

937
00:48:50,347 --> 00:48:55,707
Speaker 14: it showed that you know, we're developing group, we're evolving group.

938
00:48:55,787 --> 00:48:59,587
Speaker 14: I think we've got good, strong leadership that don't second

939
00:48:59,627 --> 00:49:02,347
Speaker 14: guess or question what we do or what we're about.

940
00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,147
Speaker 14: And I think we've got some young guys making the

941
00:49:04,187 --> 00:49:06,267
Speaker 14: way that there's always going to be a little bum

942
00:49:06,507 --> 00:49:08,587
Speaker 14: in the road, and you know that's how you manage

943
00:49:08,627 --> 00:49:13,147
Speaker 14: that and how you use those experiences to learn, you know,

944
00:49:13,187 --> 00:49:15,947
Speaker 14: which will ultimately develop it. And I think last night

945
00:49:15,947 --> 00:49:17,707
Speaker 14: we're a great example. We got the win and it

946
00:49:17,747 --> 00:49:20,827
Speaker 14: wasn't lost. But at the same time, you know, there's

947
00:49:20,827 --> 00:49:22,667
Speaker 14: a lot of learnings in that game for us about

948
00:49:23,427 --> 00:49:25,187
Speaker 14: some of the ways in which we manage parts of

949
00:49:25,227 --> 00:49:25,827
Speaker 14: the second aard.

950
00:49:28,067 --> 00:49:29,667
Speaker 2: I know you've got a xample on a plane rich,

951
00:49:29,707 --> 00:49:31,987
Speaker 2: but just a word on the returning plays and on

952
00:49:32,067 --> 00:49:35,467
Speaker 2: rock I Berry as well. What's the situation there also

953
00:49:35,547 --> 00:49:39,067
Speaker 2: with Delan, with Roger and also with James for Sha.

954
00:49:38,947 --> 00:49:42,667
Speaker 14: Harris, and none of those guys are too far away,

955
00:49:43,387 --> 00:49:47,707
Speaker 14: you know. I'm pretty certain that some of them don't

956
00:49:47,747 --> 00:49:49,947
Speaker 14: know if all, but some will definitely be in contention

957
00:49:50,107 --> 00:49:54,947
Speaker 14: this week. Rock Or get scans on a hamstring tomorrow

958
00:49:54,987 --> 00:49:57,747
Speaker 14: when we get back. But I feel, you know, a

959
00:49:57,867 --> 00:50:00,227
Speaker 14: seven day turnaround, whatever the result, is going.

960
00:50:00,147 --> 00:50:01,867
Speaker 7: To be going to be tough for rock Or.

961
00:50:01,907 --> 00:50:03,787
Speaker 14: I think we just got a stingers and toes costs

962
00:50:03,787 --> 00:50:06,387
Speaker 14: that it's a low grading and he's not going to

963
00:50:06,427 --> 00:50:08,067
Speaker 14: be able for too long. But I think the like

964
00:50:08,147 --> 00:50:11,667
Speaker 14: heard of him being available next week even without the

965
00:50:11,707 --> 00:50:15,227
Speaker 14: skuns is you know pretty much it is very very minimal.

966
00:50:15,867 --> 00:50:17,907
Speaker 2: Congrats on the win last night, Rich to you, the

967
00:50:17,907 --> 00:50:20,587
Speaker 2: coaching staff and all the team. Have a relaxing flight home. Mate,

968
00:50:20,587 --> 00:50:23,387
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing against the Dragons next time out.

969
00:50:23,947 --> 00:50:25,507
Speaker 14: H So thank you very much.

970
00:50:25,627 --> 00:50:27,547
Speaker 2: Great to Chart Jason, No, thank you rich Rich. I

971
00:50:27,787 --> 00:50:29,987
Speaker 2: they're joining us from Brisbane Airport. The team just about

972
00:50:29,987 --> 00:50:32,347
Speaker 2: to jump on a flight home and they know that

973
00:50:32,387 --> 00:50:34,107
Speaker 2: at the end of the weekend they will be in

974
00:50:34,147 --> 00:50:38,947
Speaker 2: the top three in the NRL after eight games. Never

975
00:50:39,027 --> 00:50:42,187
Speaker 2: before after eight games have the Warrior has been six

976
00:50:42,307 --> 00:50:45,667
Speaker 2: and two in a season. This is officially now their

977
00:50:45,707 --> 00:50:49,227
Speaker 2: best ever start to an NRL season, the best ever

978
00:50:49,307 --> 00:50:53,107
Speaker 2: eight game start to an NRL season. So where might

979
00:50:53,187 --> 00:50:56,867
Speaker 2: they go from here? We can say our year, can't we?

980
00:50:57,027 --> 00:51:00,627
Speaker 2: And there's evidence to back that up from what we

981
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:02,907
Speaker 2: saw last night? What did you make of it? Our

982
00:51:02,907 --> 00:51:05,467
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty? What stood out for you?

983
00:51:06,027 --> 00:51:08,227
Speaker 2: And Luke Metcalf putting in one of the all time

984
00:51:08,267 --> 00:51:12,787
Speaker 2: great performances. I saw some stats earlier on today about

985
00:51:12,787 --> 00:51:14,947
Speaker 2: what he did, and these are only numbers, I know,

986
00:51:15,107 --> 00:51:18,907
Speaker 2: but they start to kind of give you an idea

987
00:51:18,347 --> 00:51:22,747
Speaker 2: of what his influence on the game was. And as

988
00:51:22,747 --> 00:51:24,467
Speaker 2: I talk about these stats, now I've got to find

989
00:51:24,507 --> 00:51:28,427
Speaker 2: these stats. Here we go. Two tries, five goals, seven

990
00:51:28,467 --> 00:51:31,667
Speaker 2: tackle breaks. He ran for one hundred and sixty two

991
00:51:31,787 --> 00:51:35,667
Speaker 2: meters and kicked for three hundred and eleven meters and

992
00:51:36,227 --> 00:51:40,347
Speaker 2: probably most importantly, made the vital tackle on Cowboys winger

993
00:51:40,387 --> 00:51:43,627
Speaker 2: Murray Talangy which saved a certain try that would have

994
00:51:43,707 --> 00:51:45,427
Speaker 2: leveled up the scores with a kick to come, and

995
00:51:45,467 --> 00:51:51,267
Speaker 2: what's still fifteen minutes ago. So Luke Metcalf terrific game.

996
00:51:52,467 --> 00:51:55,507
Speaker 2: There's been you know, there's been discussion about him, but

997
00:51:55,907 --> 00:51:58,627
Speaker 2: he's taken on that seven jersey, big jersey to fill

998
00:51:58,987 --> 00:52:02,667
Speaker 2: Seawan Johnson's jersey. He's doing it very well. In the halves.

999
00:52:02,707 --> 00:52:06,187
Speaker 2: He and Shanella Harris Tavita, they're starting to blossom, aren't

1000
00:52:06,187 --> 00:52:09,467
Speaker 2: they as a halves combo? And it's it's time together,

1001
00:52:09,547 --> 00:52:13,027
Speaker 2: which is clearly a massive part of this. The fact

1002
00:52:13,067 --> 00:52:15,747
Speaker 2: that they've had the opportunity to play every game together

1003
00:52:16,627 --> 00:52:18,827
Speaker 2: in the six and seven jerseys is a massive thing,

1004
00:52:18,867 --> 00:52:22,147
Speaker 2: isn't it. It goes without saying it doesn't take a rocket

1005
00:52:22,187 --> 00:52:24,307
Speaker 2: scientist to work out that the more time they play together,

1006
00:52:25,027 --> 00:52:28,387
Speaker 2: the more cohesive the combination. So how are you feeling

1007
00:52:28,467 --> 00:52:31,307
Speaker 2: our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Anything you want

1008
00:52:31,307 --> 00:52:33,027
Speaker 2: to pick up on from the game last night nine

1009
00:52:33,107 --> 00:52:35,547
Speaker 2: two ninety two if you would prefer to chat to

1010
00:52:35,627 --> 00:52:36,667
Speaker 2: us via text?

1011
00:52:37,067 --> 00:52:40,987
Speaker 17: Ellen, Hello, Yeah, hello Jason. Look, last night's game was

1012
00:52:40,987 --> 00:52:45,787
Speaker 17: a real nail bite, or wasn't it? What it pointed out?

1013
00:52:45,867 --> 00:52:50,027
Speaker 17: And I'm reviewing the stats from last night's game. Our

1014
00:52:50,107 --> 00:52:53,067
Speaker 17: defense won that game for us without a shadow of

1015
00:52:53,067 --> 00:52:57,307
Speaker 17: a doubt because if you look at the stats, they

1016
00:52:57,307 --> 00:53:00,187
Speaker 17: actually had two hundred more run meters than US and

1017
00:53:00,307 --> 00:53:05,107
Speaker 17: over two hundred post contact meters than US, and yet

1018
00:53:05,547 --> 00:53:10,027
Speaker 17: with those two advantages, they still didn't make any headway.

1019
00:53:10,107 --> 00:53:14,987
Speaker 17: Now they nearly did, we know that. But the defense

1020
00:53:15,027 --> 00:53:18,147
Speaker 17: of the team has been magnificent so far this year,

1021
00:53:18,667 --> 00:53:22,347
Speaker 17: and this is one I absolutely agree with Metcalf's comment

1022
00:53:22,347 --> 00:53:25,027
Speaker 17: at the end of the game where he said that

1023
00:53:25,347 --> 00:53:28,307
Speaker 17: it was our defense that won the game tonight for US.

1024
00:53:28,827 --> 00:53:31,387
Speaker 17: Now we know he did a wonderful job of tackling,

1025
00:53:31,427 --> 00:53:36,307
Speaker 17: but if you review that period sort of from halfway

1026
00:53:36,347 --> 00:53:41,587
Speaker 17: through the second half till about fifteen minutes, they were

1027
00:53:41,627 --> 00:53:44,267
Speaker 17: so far on top it was a joke. And yet

1028
00:53:44,587 --> 00:53:49,827
Speaker 17: we had the fortitude to buckle down and we literally

1029
00:53:49,907 --> 00:53:53,387
Speaker 17: kept them out. And they had all advantage, they had

1030
00:53:53,507 --> 00:53:57,267
Speaker 17: all the possessions on and we kept them out. And

1031
00:53:57,347 --> 00:54:00,187
Speaker 17: I think the defense is it's always been a key

1032
00:54:00,187 --> 00:54:03,027
Speaker 17: thing in the NRL. Wayne Bennett years ago, i think,

1033
00:54:03,107 --> 00:54:07,387
Speaker 17: said that the NRL, every team is going to score

1034
00:54:07,427 --> 00:54:10,507
Speaker 17: points against you. It's very rare that you actually see

1035
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:15,147
Speaker 17: a game with zero as a score line. But he

1036
00:54:15,267 --> 00:54:18,267
Speaker 17: said it means that you're going to score points, but

1037
00:54:18,347 --> 00:54:21,187
Speaker 17: what you've got to do is stop them scoring against you.

1038
00:54:21,827 --> 00:54:24,347
Speaker 17: And I think that's a fair summation of the NRL.

1039
00:54:24,507 --> 00:54:31,067
Speaker 17: It's such a professional game now, things that are a

1040
00:54:31,107 --> 00:54:35,747
Speaker 17: low percentage play have sort of been taken out of

1041
00:54:35,747 --> 00:54:38,987
Speaker 17: the game over in Australia. It doesn't make the game worse,

1042
00:54:39,107 --> 00:54:42,747
Speaker 17: it means it makes the game more intense. And yeah,

1043
00:54:43,667 --> 00:54:47,267
Speaker 17: I think Luke Metcalf was definitely sort of the player

1044
00:54:47,267 --> 00:54:50,867
Speaker 17: of the side, but the defense of our forwards in

1045
00:54:50,907 --> 00:54:52,587
Speaker 17: particular was magnificent.

1046
00:54:53,187 --> 00:54:55,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Ellen, I could not agree more. And it

1047
00:54:56,467 --> 00:54:58,467
Speaker 2: was I mean, without wanting to cliche it too much,

1048
00:54:58,467 --> 00:55:00,187
Speaker 2: it was a game of two halves, wasn't it. Most

1049
00:55:00,187 --> 00:55:02,067
Speaker 2: of our points in the first half and then we

1050
00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:04,507
Speaker 2: did have to defend, But defend we did in the

1051
00:55:04,507 --> 00:55:06,787
Speaker 2: second half. Yes, they scored tries, they scored you know,

1052
00:55:06,827 --> 00:55:08,947
Speaker 2: they closed it up, probably more than we would have

1053
00:55:09,227 --> 00:55:11,987
Speaker 2: ideally hoped. And I'm sure there was a few nails

1054
00:55:12,027 --> 00:55:14,507
Speaker 2: being bitten and the coaching box and on couches around

1055
00:55:14,547 --> 00:55:18,307
Speaker 2: the place as well near the end. But look, it's

1056
00:55:18,347 --> 00:55:20,507
Speaker 2: easy to say this, but hypothetically, you know, and he

1057
00:55:20,587 --> 00:55:22,667
Speaker 2: has gone by the Warriors lose that game, don't they.

1058
00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:24,427
Speaker 7: Yes.

1059
00:55:25,027 --> 00:55:28,467
Speaker 17: I think that's a fair summation. One of the things

1060
00:55:28,467 --> 00:55:34,067
Speaker 17: that we've got in Barnett is we've got another We've

1061
00:55:34,107 --> 00:55:38,787
Speaker 17: got another Australian Ford who has slipped into a leadership

1062
00:55:38,867 --> 00:55:41,867
Speaker 17: role with the Warriors, and I think it's such a

1063
00:55:41,907 --> 00:55:46,307
Speaker 17: great thing. Kevin Campion proved invaluable to the team when

1064
00:55:46,307 --> 00:55:49,067
Speaker 17: he had his stint with us, and I think Barnette's

1065
00:55:49,787 --> 00:55:52,627
Speaker 17: there's going to be another one of those. He might

1066
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:56,067
Speaker 17: be a slightly different player, but you cannot fold his

1067
00:55:56,707 --> 00:55:59,867
Speaker 17: effort when he plays the game. I mean the number

1068
00:55:59,907 --> 00:56:02,987
Speaker 17: of times he particularly in the first half, where he

1069
00:56:03,147 --> 00:56:06,147
Speaker 17: was the third tackle and who made sure the legs

1070
00:56:06,147 --> 00:56:10,827
Speaker 17: caut from underneath the ball carrier so that the ball

1071
00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:14,067
Speaker 17: carrier had to regain his feet before he could play

1072
00:56:14,107 --> 00:56:18,187
Speaker 17: the ball. It's such a small percentage play, or people

1073
00:56:18,747 --> 00:56:21,307
Speaker 17: say it is, but if you put the player on

1074
00:56:21,427 --> 00:56:26,387
Speaker 17: the ground, you gain a very fraction of a second

1075
00:56:26,427 --> 00:56:30,107
Speaker 17: advantage out of it. And it also is discouraging for

1076
00:56:30,187 --> 00:56:35,587
Speaker 17: the attacking team who are learning that you're just not

1077
00:56:35,787 --> 00:56:39,587
Speaker 17: going to be able to bustle and hustle through, you know,

1078
00:56:39,867 --> 00:56:45,067
Speaker 17: the defenders. And he was so good and his leadership,

1079
00:56:45,107 --> 00:56:48,667
Speaker 17: which is clearly, just quiet, and I'll show you the

1080
00:56:48,707 --> 00:56:51,507
Speaker 17: way as having a huge impact on that team. I'm

1081
00:56:51,787 --> 00:56:52,387
Speaker 17: convinced of.

1082
00:56:52,307 --> 00:56:56,507
Speaker 2: It, absolutely, Ellen. Just great analysis from you, bang on.

1083
00:56:57,267 --> 00:56:59,907
Speaker 2: Let's hope for many more conversations between you and I

1084
00:57:00,307 --> 00:57:03,347
Speaker 2: along similar lines in the weeks here. Thanks for taking

1085
00:57:03,347 --> 00:57:05,987
Speaker 2: the time to call us in eight ten eighty.

1086
00:57:07,907 --> 00:57:09,907
Speaker 18: It was a bit of a shame that the Hurricanes

1087
00:57:09,947 --> 00:57:11,307
Speaker 18: and Chiefs were on at the same time.

1088
00:57:11,987 --> 00:57:14,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, Tim, I was like, I

1089
00:57:15,347 --> 00:57:18,147
Speaker 2: was at the Hurricanes game, so I only I've watched

1090
00:57:18,147 --> 00:57:20,787
Speaker 2: the replay of the Warriors. But you're right, you need yeah,

1091
00:57:20,787 --> 00:57:22,627
Speaker 2: you need two sets of eyes and a couple of screens.

1092
00:57:22,667 --> 00:57:22,987
Speaker 7: Mate.

1093
00:57:23,627 --> 00:57:26,427
Speaker 18: Well, I'd probably say that the majority of Keys would

1094
00:57:26,427 --> 00:57:30,027
Speaker 18: have tuned into the Warriors game. But they're both cracket

1095
00:57:30,027 --> 00:57:32,427
Speaker 18: and games. I mean, I'm a chief supporter, and you know,

1096
00:57:32,547 --> 00:57:35,027
Speaker 18: I think we've seen the Hurricanes now, they've really come

1097
00:57:35,107 --> 00:57:39,907
Speaker 18: in to the Aird finally, especially with Sullivant who probably

1098
00:57:39,947 --> 00:57:41,067
Speaker 18: needs to stay on that wing now.

1099
00:57:41,147 --> 00:57:45,507
Speaker 2: For Troy probably incredible, incredible, Yeah, and the only he

1100
00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:47,587
Speaker 2: only went on because of an injury. You know, when

1101
00:57:47,627 --> 00:57:49,787
Speaker 2: you when you're wearing the twenty three jersey, you think, okay,

1102
00:57:49,787 --> 00:57:51,507
Speaker 2: I might get I might at twenty minutes and the

1103
00:57:51,507 --> 00:57:52,947
Speaker 2: second half, I'll come on in the scenes is or

1104
00:57:53,027 --> 00:57:53,667
Speaker 2: might I come on the wing?

1105
00:57:53,747 --> 00:57:54,027
Speaker 7: Whatever?

1106
00:57:54,147 --> 00:57:56,347
Speaker 2: He played seventy three minutes, came on and yeah, and

1107
00:57:56,387 --> 00:57:59,227
Speaker 2: at halftime the Hurricanes hadn't scored a try, as you know,

1108
00:57:59,347 --> 00:58:01,347
Speaker 2: and then four and the second half.

1109
00:58:02,427 --> 00:58:05,427
Speaker 18: Well, I'm kicking myself as a chief supporter. We should

1110
00:58:05,427 --> 00:58:07,827
Speaker 18: have picked up Elevant because he played for.

1111
00:58:07,787 --> 00:58:09,747
Speaker 16: The way Getter and and whatnot.

1112
00:58:09,787 --> 00:58:13,107
Speaker 18: But it's great to see him take his opportunities.

1113
00:58:13,107 --> 00:58:13,467
Speaker 19: He's been.

1114
00:58:13,787 --> 00:58:18,667
Speaker 18: He's been on form all year, especially with what's his name.

1115
00:58:19,227 --> 00:58:21,627
Speaker 18: He's been out for your guy center.

1116
00:58:23,747 --> 00:58:25,627
Speaker 2: Billy Proctor, Yeah, Billy Proctor, Yeah, yeah.

1117
00:58:26,227 --> 00:58:28,987
Speaker 18: So he's been an awesome fill in there, almost you know,

1118
00:58:29,107 --> 00:58:32,307
Speaker 18: all black, you know, knocking on the door of being

1119
00:58:32,387 --> 00:58:35,507
Speaker 18: all black. And I think he still is. So, you know,

1120
00:58:36,107 --> 00:58:38,187
Speaker 18: just watch out for the Hurricanes. They could be pushing

1121
00:58:38,187 --> 00:58:42,387
Speaker 18: for their full spook. But really what we need to

1122
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:45,027
Speaker 18: talk about is the Warriors. The last schooler alluded to

1123
00:58:45,067 --> 00:58:48,187
Speaker 18: the defense, mate, I mean the Cowboys. If people have

1124
00:58:48,227 --> 00:58:50,187
Speaker 18: watched them last week, I think they put on thirty

1125
00:58:50,227 --> 00:58:54,147
Speaker 18: six points against oh I can't remember who they played,

1126
00:58:54,187 --> 00:58:56,707
Speaker 18: but they they are really a sick and half team

1127
00:58:56,907 --> 00:58:59,187
Speaker 18: and for the Warriors to defend like that like they

1128
00:58:59,187 --> 00:59:03,787
Speaker 18: were on the mate, I mean the half, you know,

1129
00:59:03,907 --> 00:59:07,067
Speaker 18: the markers were gone. I mean I think we had

1130
00:59:07,067 --> 00:59:10,507
Speaker 18: lost Berry in the second half and then oh we're

1131
00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:12,827
Speaker 18: all all over the show. But it just goes to

1132
00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:17,427
Speaker 18: show that this team has the result of a top fourteen.

1133
00:59:17,507 --> 00:59:19,627
Speaker 18: And then now they go to the Dragons down there

1134
00:59:19,627 --> 00:59:23,947
Speaker 18: in Bull and Gold, which they should win, but who knows.

1135
00:59:24,027 --> 00:59:27,947
Speaker 18: But it just goes to show how tight this competition is.

1136
00:59:27,987 --> 00:59:30,587
Speaker 18: I mean, you've got the Melbourne Storm and Camp Raiders

1137
00:59:30,627 --> 00:59:34,787
Speaker 18: playing today, so the Warriors will definitely finish or the

1138
00:59:34,907 --> 00:59:39,267
Speaker 18: round a third spot. And then we've got the Raiders

1139
00:59:39,267 --> 00:59:40,947
Speaker 18: at home in a couple of weeks, which is going

1140
00:59:41,027 --> 00:59:44,027
Speaker 18: to be massive. It'll be a top four clash.

1141
00:59:44,307 --> 00:59:48,627
Speaker 2: Huge, yep. Huge. Resolve is such a good word. It's

1142
00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:51,347
Speaker 2: such a good word, mate, that's what they have. You know,

1143
00:59:51,587 --> 00:59:53,987
Speaker 2: I've sort of someone's aluded me to the fact that,

1144
00:59:54,067 --> 00:59:56,787
Speaker 2: you know, last year the Warriors lost a lot of

1145
00:59:56,827 --> 00:59:59,347
Speaker 2: games by that sort of you know, six seven point margin,

1146
01:00:00,067 --> 01:00:02,347
Speaker 2: and already this year, the win over the Cowboys last night,

1147
01:00:02,387 --> 01:00:05,467
Speaker 2: the win over the Broncos by twenty points to eighteen

1148
01:00:05,507 --> 01:00:08,347
Speaker 2: as well, just too amples of that resolve that you

1149
01:00:08,427 --> 01:00:11,547
Speaker 2: talk about. And well it's gee, we're all sorts of

1150
01:00:11,547 --> 01:00:14,187
Speaker 2: cliches this afternoon. But defense does win championships and this

1151
01:00:14,227 --> 01:00:15,787
Speaker 2: is a very good start from the Warriors this year.

1152
01:00:16,547 --> 01:00:19,427
Speaker 18: Exactly, and pointed just before I go, what's happening at

1153
01:00:19,627 --> 01:00:21,107
Speaker 18: Go Media Mounts Smart Stadium?

1154
01:00:21,187 --> 01:00:21,427
Speaker 7: Mate?

1155
01:00:21,467 --> 01:00:24,707
Speaker 18: I mean you cut the Warriors, k see, I mean good,

1156
01:00:24,747 --> 01:00:26,507
Speaker 18: they're not losing me, They're not losing.

1157
01:00:27,227 --> 01:00:32,267
Speaker 2: It's yeah, maybe the Blues won't have a game there, exactly.

1158
01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:35,427
Speaker 2: Good on your term. Good to charity of mate, thanks

1159
01:00:35,427 --> 01:00:37,587
Speaker 2: for calling in. Let's chet again soon. Eight hundred and

1160
01:00:37,587 --> 01:00:41,227
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty one, twenty six Mark you want to

1161
01:00:41,507 --> 01:00:43,707
Speaker 2: you want to talk about the two pronged seven o'clock

1162
01:00:43,707 --> 01:00:45,707
Speaker 2: Saturday night rugby and Warriors.

1163
01:00:47,427 --> 01:00:49,867
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the Warriors games should come with a house.

1164
01:00:52,187 --> 01:00:54,507
Speaker 2: I think Andrew Webster said something like that afterwards, said

1165
01:00:54,787 --> 01:00:57,227
Speaker 2: it's given him arp palpitations.

1166
01:00:57,227 --> 01:00:59,587
Speaker 16: Oh he's a great coaches. I mean, man, he's really

1167
01:00:59,587 --> 01:01:02,347
Speaker 16: made a difference to the Warriors. And I think you

1168
01:01:02,387 --> 01:01:04,347
Speaker 16: know the thing in the top four is it's not

1169
01:01:04,347 --> 01:01:06,627
Speaker 16: by mistake and you know the way you which is

1170
01:01:06,667 --> 01:01:09,707
Speaker 16: in the game plan he's got for the Warriors. It's

1171
01:01:09,747 --> 01:01:12,547
Speaker 16: not a Warriors of you know, ten ten years ago,

1172
01:01:12,627 --> 01:01:15,587
Speaker 16: where they're uploading and playing like Stevens Rugby. They've got

1173
01:01:15,587 --> 01:01:18,947
Speaker 16: a real game plan. And I saw a stat the

1174
01:01:18,987 --> 01:01:21,067
Speaker 16: other day while I was in my bets on that

1175
01:01:21,147 --> 01:01:24,707
Speaker 16: the guy from Astray. He was saying that the Warriors

1176
01:01:24,747 --> 01:01:27,987
Speaker 16: have the least amount of tackles in their own twenty

1177
01:01:28,627 --> 01:01:30,107
Speaker 16: of any of the teams. And I mean that was

1178
01:01:30,107 --> 01:01:34,267
Speaker 16: probably changed last night because you know, they had a

1179
01:01:34,267 --> 01:01:36,427
Speaker 16: lot of in the last fifteen minutes a team that

1180
01:01:36,507 --> 01:01:38,427
Speaker 16: was camped in there in twenty. But you know, it's

1181
01:01:38,507 --> 01:01:41,427
Speaker 16: quite an interesting statistic that the Warriors have become one

1182
01:01:41,427 --> 01:01:44,267
Speaker 16: of the best defensive teams, you know, probably outside the

1183
01:01:44,307 --> 01:01:47,907
Speaker 16: Dogs in the competition, and they really have got a

1184
01:01:47,947 --> 01:01:51,027
Speaker 16: lot of it's not just attack and it's not just defense,

1185
01:01:51,067 --> 01:01:53,947
Speaker 16: it's the whole team. And you know, you've still got

1186
01:01:54,147 --> 01:01:57,107
Speaker 16: Dylan Watini and RTUs to come back in the side,

1187
01:01:57,147 --> 01:01:59,187
Speaker 16: and I think they're looking pretty good, to be honest.

1188
01:01:59,427 --> 01:02:03,627
Speaker 2: Find Oh Mark, I agree. And the thing that the

1189
01:02:03,667 --> 01:02:05,547
Speaker 2: problem is that is you don't want to get too

1190
01:02:05,587 --> 01:02:08,107
Speaker 2: carried away with it, but it's impossible not to So

1191
01:02:08,147 --> 01:02:10,987
Speaker 2: if we just rely on numbers alone, like I said before,

1192
01:02:11,027 --> 01:02:14,307
Speaker 2: it is the best ever eight game start to a season.

1193
01:02:14,387 --> 01:02:17,107
Speaker 2: So it's a launching pad, a very good launching pad.

1194
01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:18,827
Speaker 2: And yeah, you talk about the defense, I mean the

1195
01:02:18,867 --> 01:02:21,747
Speaker 2: Bulldog The Bulldogs are the standard bearers here. They've only

1196
01:02:22,187 --> 01:02:26,427
Speaker 2: considered one hundred points in seven games. The Warriors, by contrast,

1197
01:02:26,427 --> 01:02:28,427
Speaker 2: one to seventy four in their eight games. But that's

1198
01:02:28,467 --> 01:02:30,587
Speaker 2: better than a lot of the other teams in eight games.

1199
01:02:30,627 --> 01:02:33,947
Speaker 2: The Raiders have conceded more so have the Sea Eagles,

1200
01:02:33,987 --> 01:02:35,787
Speaker 2: so of the Tigers, if we look at teams in

1201
01:02:35,827 --> 01:02:38,907
Speaker 2: the top eight, So defense is so important. And at

1202
01:02:38,907 --> 01:02:41,507
Speaker 2: the same time, you know they're finding ways to score

1203
01:02:41,547 --> 01:02:44,187
Speaker 2: tries without guys like Roger tu Vasaschek and Delan what

1204
01:02:44,347 --> 01:02:46,947
Speaker 2: Teni Solesniak who are still to come back back and

1205
01:02:46,947 --> 01:02:48,947
Speaker 2: add their attacking impetus.

1206
01:02:50,187 --> 01:02:54,547
Speaker 16: And on the Hurricanes my team, your team, Yes, you know,

1207
01:02:54,587 --> 01:02:58,547
Speaker 16: I didn't really have a lot of hopes. I guess

1208
01:02:58,707 --> 01:03:01,627
Speaker 16: as the Hurricanes is forty some years, you don't have

1209
01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:03,867
Speaker 16: a lot of hope. But I mean, obviously, losing Jordi

1210
01:03:03,947 --> 01:03:07,427
Speaker 16: and ardis huge, huge loss. The two of the best

1211
01:03:07,427 --> 01:03:09,547
Speaker 16: players not in the country, not probably in the world

1212
01:03:09,627 --> 01:03:11,787
Speaker 16: to lose, you know, for a team that is big.

1213
01:03:11,827 --> 01:03:14,427
Speaker 16: But you know, you've got to really hand it to

1214
01:03:14,547 --> 01:03:16,947
Speaker 16: the to the staff that the Hurricanes and the team.

1215
01:03:17,667 --> 01:03:20,107
Speaker 16: You know, the last two games have been tremendous really

1216
01:03:20,347 --> 01:03:22,107
Speaker 16: and they weren't meant to win the game. In Australia,

1217
01:03:22,107 --> 01:03:25,107
Speaker 16: they weren't meant to win the game last night, Rubin

1218
01:03:25,187 --> 01:03:27,547
Speaker 16: Love sounders place at number ten. Maybe he should been

1219
01:03:27,587 --> 01:03:30,627
Speaker 16: playing there for a while, but you know, it's an

1220
01:03:30,627 --> 01:03:33,947
Speaker 16: across the board game and I have got a glimmer

1221
01:03:33,987 --> 01:03:36,467
Speaker 16: of hope that we could could get up there. And

1222
01:03:36,667 --> 01:03:38,787
Speaker 16: I thought it was going to be a Chiefs Crusaders,

1223
01:03:39,907 --> 01:03:42,227
Speaker 16: you know, competition this year. But now I'm trying on

1224
01:03:42,267 --> 01:03:44,747
Speaker 16: the Hurricanes. Finally, I'm pretty optimistic me.

1225
01:03:44,827 --> 01:03:47,107
Speaker 2: Too, Mark, You've convinced me. Not that I needed any

1226
01:03:47,227 --> 01:03:50,187
Speaker 2: but right I feel the same way. And interesting to

1227
01:03:50,227 --> 01:03:52,387
Speaker 2: hear Clark Laidlaw say after the game last night that

1228
01:03:52,467 --> 01:03:54,987
Speaker 2: Rubin Love you're right about him playing at ten. I

1229
01:03:55,027 --> 01:03:57,947
Speaker 2: think he's I think he he may well have a

1230
01:03:57,987 --> 01:04:01,147
Speaker 2: future there. What Clark Laidlaw says was that said was

1231
01:04:01,187 --> 01:04:04,347
Speaker 2: that the most impressive thing is that Ruben Love really

1232
01:04:04,427 --> 01:04:07,587
Speaker 2: wants to play first five. It seems like an odd

1233
01:04:07,587 --> 01:04:09,707
Speaker 2: thing to say, but it's like the desire that he

1234
01:04:09,787 --> 01:04:12,267
Speaker 2: wants to run the team around. He's played largely at

1235
01:04:12,307 --> 01:04:15,387
Speaker 2: fallback for the Hurricanes and for the Lions, but he

1236
01:04:15,907 --> 01:04:18,747
Speaker 2: wants to be a first five now. They've got Brett

1237
01:04:18,747 --> 01:04:21,147
Speaker 2: Cameron coming back ahead of schedule. How ay godfree you

1238
01:04:21,147 --> 01:04:24,067
Speaker 2: who played the first five games in the ten jumper

1239
01:04:24,187 --> 01:04:26,627
Speaker 2: also returning from injury. But they're going to have to

1240
01:04:26,667 --> 01:04:29,707
Speaker 2: do a bit to dislodge Rupen Love from the number

1241
01:04:29,707 --> 01:04:34,227
Speaker 2: ten jersey. Callum Harkin looking good at fallback, so they

1242
01:04:34,267 --> 01:04:39,067
Speaker 2: seem okay. There some good selection problems for Clark laid

1243
01:04:39,107 --> 01:04:41,867
Speaker 2: Law to have in the in the remaining three games

1244
01:04:41,867 --> 01:04:43,307
Speaker 2: of the regular season. They've got the buyer now and

1245
01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:45,827
Speaker 2: then into the finals, which hopefully the Hurricanes will be

1246
01:04:45,907 --> 01:04:49,507
Speaker 2: participants in one point thirty back in a moment, please

1247
01:04:49,547 --> 01:04:51,667
Speaker 2: hold there, Frank with you right after this spear line

1248
01:04:51,667 --> 01:04:53,547
Speaker 2: if you want to jump on eight hundred eighty.

1249
01:04:53,427 --> 01:04:58,267
Speaker 1: Ten eighty the big issues on and after fields Call

1250
01:04:58,547 --> 01:05:01,787
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fain

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1253
01:05:06,067 --> 01:05:10,147
Speaker 2: Said twenty seven to two talking Warriors, Rah on text Jason.

1254
01:05:10,147 --> 01:05:11,627
Speaker 2: For me, all the things should go to the Warrior's

1255
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:15,067
Speaker 2: fitness coach. I've never seen a Warriors team so fit.

1256
01:05:15,227 --> 01:05:17,347
Speaker 2: Good point you make it are, Hey, Greg.

1257
01:05:18,587 --> 01:05:26,227
Speaker 20: How are you doing good? I got three words for you, composure, discipline,

1258
01:05:27,467 --> 01:05:28,067
Speaker 20: and depth.

1259
01:05:29,267 --> 01:05:29,547
Speaker 7: Good.

1260
01:05:29,747 --> 01:05:33,627
Speaker 2: I love those three words. They're very good words. They're

1261
01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:35,907
Speaker 2: they're qualities. I'm sure a lot of teams would love

1262
01:05:35,947 --> 01:05:38,187
Speaker 2: to have Greg, but you're right, they all seem to

1263
01:05:38,227 --> 01:05:44,347
Speaker 2: apply to the Warriors. Composure, discipline, depth, and like I

1264
01:05:44,387 --> 01:05:47,587
Speaker 2: think there was a status thing we're talking stats today

1265
01:05:48,267 --> 01:05:53,147
Speaker 2: that the Warriors are the least penalized team for high shots.

1266
01:05:55,747 --> 01:05:58,507
Speaker 2: I saw that stat, yes, yeah, I think it was

1267
01:05:58,547 --> 01:06:00,987
Speaker 2: on the on the Maddie John Show. I think I

1268
01:06:01,027 --> 01:06:04,547
Speaker 2: saw that stat. But it's yeah, it's another good indicator.

1269
01:06:05,947 --> 01:06:11,067
Speaker 20: So that's that obviously plays into your discipline. I've also

1270
01:06:11,307 --> 01:06:16,347
Speaker 20: found that and you know, we're all always all critical

1271
01:06:16,387 --> 01:06:22,587
Speaker 20: of referees against the Warriors. I've been watching quite closely

1272
01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:26,227
Speaker 20: referees this year, and we seem to be getting a

1273
01:06:26,267 --> 01:06:31,627
Speaker 20: fear rubber the green. You know, we always, as Warriors

1274
01:06:31,667 --> 01:06:36,827
Speaker 20: fans were like, oh come on, put your whistle away,

1275
01:06:37,427 --> 01:06:40,827
Speaker 20: you know, but this year it actually seems and you look.

1276
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Speaker 20: I don't remember the guy's name we ref last night,

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01:06:44,747 --> 01:06:47,707
Speaker 20: but if we looked at the stats for penalties, I

1278
01:06:47,707 --> 01:06:54,947
Speaker 20: would probably say that both sides were pretty even. I

1279
01:06:54,987 --> 01:06:57,067
Speaker 20: don't have it in front of me, but we seem

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01:06:57,147 --> 01:07:01,427
Speaker 20: to be getting out a fair rubber. The green from

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01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:09,507
Speaker 20: the referees. Y is also obviously helping them. I'm not

1282
01:07:09,627 --> 01:07:16,547
Speaker 20: convinced on Luke Metcalf though. Really No, I don't, I don't,

1283
01:07:16,587 --> 01:07:18,867
Speaker 20: I can't. I can't put my finger on it. But

1284
01:07:19,867 --> 01:07:22,347
Speaker 20: I listened to the commentators, and like I listened to

1285
01:07:22,467 --> 01:07:27,587
Speaker 20: last Watchden, listen to accommodators last week's game, every time

1286
01:07:27,827 --> 01:07:30,707
Speaker 20: met not every time, but the majority of the time

1287
01:07:30,747 --> 01:07:33,027
Speaker 20: that mest Caarf got the ball, you could read what

1288
01:07:33,107 --> 01:07:36,387
Speaker 20: he was going to do. I think nine times out

1289
01:07:36,387 --> 01:07:41,267
Speaker 20: of ten he dropped a player back inside. And I

1290
01:07:41,467 --> 01:07:46,867
Speaker 20: just don't see the creativity in him. I'm not saying

1291
01:07:46,867 --> 01:07:50,227
Speaker 20: he's a bad player, but I would like to see

1292
01:07:50,867 --> 01:07:52,187
Speaker 20: to Marty Martin given a go.

1293
01:07:55,747 --> 01:07:58,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hardly played, is he to Marty Martin? I

1294
01:07:58,907 --> 01:08:01,947
Speaker 2: think he's got one appearance off the interchange bench against

1295
01:08:01,987 --> 01:08:04,027
Speaker 2: the Broncos. And I think a lot of people probably

1296
01:08:04,027 --> 01:08:06,467
Speaker 2: thought Greg that he would you get a crack and

1297
01:08:06,507 --> 01:08:09,507
Speaker 2: a halfs this year with Sean Johnson gone, And he

1298
01:08:09,787 --> 01:08:11,547
Speaker 2: played there quite a bit last year, didn't he. But

1299
01:08:11,867 --> 01:08:13,947
Speaker 2: they seem to be all in on Metcalf and Harris

1300
01:08:13,987 --> 01:08:16,947
Speaker 2: Tavita you know, to mighty Marson may well play a

1301
01:08:16,987 --> 01:08:18,547
Speaker 2: part in the rest of the season.

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Speaker 20: But this is about this is about the depth as well. See,

1303
01:08:22,707 --> 01:08:26,827
Speaker 20: we do have as Metcalf get injured or Harris Tabeta

1304
01:08:26,827 --> 01:08:29,747
Speaker 20: gets injured, you do have a player. The one player

1305
01:08:29,747 --> 01:08:35,107
Speaker 20: that I'm also I feel he's playing out a position

1306
01:08:35,147 --> 01:08:41,187
Speaker 20: but he's not. Is the winger two picky tain't.

1307
01:08:41,027 --> 01:08:42,867
Speaker 2: To a picker. Yes, you you can reckon he's more,

1308
01:08:43,187 --> 01:08:44,467
Speaker 2: but you reckon he's more of a fullback.

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01:08:45,707 --> 01:08:47,907
Speaker 20: Well, he's such a little guy and you come up

1310
01:08:47,947 --> 01:08:53,867
Speaker 20: against you know, like the Broncos winger, he's got no chance.

1311
01:08:55,347 --> 01:08:56,987
Speaker 20: He just you know, And and a lot of the

1312
01:08:57,107 --> 01:08:58,907
Speaker 20: lot of the other wingers in the competition are a

1313
01:08:58,947 --> 01:09:06,427
Speaker 20: lot bigger than him. I mean, he plays well, but

1314
01:09:06,467 --> 01:09:08,507
Speaker 20: it's sort of like, is there another option?

1315
01:09:09,307 --> 01:09:11,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him as well. I think he's got

1316
01:09:11,427 --> 01:09:15,227
Speaker 2: a lot about him, you know, He played fullback once

1317
01:09:15,267 --> 01:09:18,787
Speaker 2: this year against the Broncos. Chance nikol Klukstar I think

1318
01:09:18,827 --> 01:09:21,547
Speaker 2: was unavailable that game. Otherwise it's been Chance who's played

1319
01:09:21,947 --> 01:09:24,867
Speaker 2: full back. But yeah, tain to Olpaki, Yeah, I think

1320
01:09:24,867 --> 01:09:27,747
Speaker 2: he's He's got a lot about him and on the wing.

1321
01:09:28,507 --> 01:09:30,747
Speaker 2: You know, for most of the season. You're right, he's

1322
01:09:30,747 --> 01:09:36,667
Speaker 2: not the biggest bloke, big heart. Love your words though, Greg, composure, discipline, depth.

1323
01:09:37,067 --> 01:09:39,427
Speaker 2: I'll let it to resolve that we got from Tim

1324
01:09:39,587 --> 01:09:42,067
Speaker 2: getting some good adjectives for this team. Good to chat

1325
01:09:42,067 --> 01:09:43,907
Speaker 2: to you, mate, Thanks for calling in, hey, Frank.

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Speaker 21: Hi Piney. My admiration for this team is just it's

1327
01:09:49,147 --> 01:09:54,147
Speaker 21: just out of this world. I would like to use

1328
01:09:54,267 --> 01:10:00,227
Speaker 21: an analogy of a snowball rolling down a mountain and

1329
01:10:00,307 --> 01:10:05,187
Speaker 21: as we win, and that's with that magnificent crowd behind him,

1330
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:08,147
Speaker 21: as we woul we pick up snow we picked, the

1331
01:10:08,267 --> 01:10:11,347
Speaker 21: ball gets bigger and bigger and bigger until we get

1332
01:10:11,387 --> 01:10:16,587
Speaker 21: to their last last few games and our ball just

1333
01:10:16,667 --> 01:10:19,507
Speaker 21: smashed a lot at the top of them. Yes, that's

1334
01:10:19,787 --> 01:10:22,467
Speaker 21: that's that's what ye know. I'm the one that I

1335
01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:26,547
Speaker 21: don't know whether you remember, but I fly the Warriors

1336
01:10:26,667 --> 01:10:30,107
Speaker 21: flag at the Papika are tennis on a Friday.

1337
01:10:30,667 --> 01:10:34,827
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, remember you told me about this, Yes.

1338
01:10:34,787 --> 01:10:38,267
Speaker 21: And that flag has been flying for three weeks and

1339
01:10:38,347 --> 01:10:40,587
Speaker 21: I think it might even fly next week.

1340
01:10:42,227 --> 01:10:45,227
Speaker 2: Frank, long may it fly, Long, may it fly? The

1341
01:10:45,267 --> 01:10:47,867
Speaker 2: snowball that you're talking about. I mean, that's just momentum,

1342
01:10:48,027 --> 01:10:50,467
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's the momentum game when.

1343
01:10:51,387 --> 01:10:53,547
Speaker 21: I mean it was a horrible night. I mean that

1344
01:10:53,627 --> 01:10:57,267
Speaker 21: was torrential rain. And look at the crowd that they got,

1345
01:10:57,507 --> 01:11:01,027
Speaker 21: and they've seen their their anthem. You you know their anthem,

1346
01:11:01,067 --> 01:11:02,187
Speaker 21: don't you do?

1347
01:11:03,587 --> 01:11:03,907
Speaker 18: You do?

1348
01:11:04,547 --> 01:11:06,227
Speaker 2: I do? Yes, I know the anthem. I know that

1349
01:11:06,387 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 2: I know the song they sing it. They sing it

1350
01:11:08,347 --> 01:11:10,987
Speaker 2: upon upon a victory. And they've had plenty of chances

1351
01:11:11,027 --> 01:11:11,427
Speaker 2: this year.

1352
01:11:12,107 --> 01:11:14,747
Speaker 21: Yeah, and I think that just lifts the team that

1353
01:11:14,907 --> 01:11:18,187
Speaker 21: just and this team has got, as one of the

1354
01:11:18,507 --> 01:11:21,627
Speaker 21: one of your callers said, depth, and we've got those

1355
01:11:22,467 --> 01:11:28,787
Speaker 21: great our second grade players winning their grade, and that

1356
01:11:28,987 --> 01:11:33,147
Speaker 21: Timara Martin, I am a little bit disappointed that he's

1357
01:11:33,227 --> 01:11:37,707
Speaker 21: not been played more. But well, we've got these guys

1358
01:11:37,747 --> 01:11:41,707
Speaker 21: out there. We've got Fisher, we've got two of ours

1359
01:11:41,747 --> 01:11:45,667
Speaker 21: and Sheep and we've got these guns waiting in the

1360
01:11:45,707 --> 01:11:48,067
Speaker 21: wings to come on, and yet we are winning with

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01:11:48,187 --> 01:11:50,387
Speaker 21: the guys we've got mm hmm.

1362
01:11:50,787 --> 01:11:53,027
Speaker 2: And yeah. Look, I mean any coach will tell you, Frank,

1363
01:11:53,107 --> 01:11:55,947
Speaker 2: as you know that that the biggest headache they want

1364
01:11:56,027 --> 01:11:59,747
Speaker 2: is a selection headache of having too many good players

1365
01:11:59,787 --> 01:12:02,547
Speaker 2: to fit in. Even last night, Sam Healy a day,

1366
01:12:02,547 --> 01:12:05,707
Speaker 2: but I never heard of the guy on the change

1367
01:12:05,747 --> 01:12:09,267
Speaker 2: bench and almost set up a match ceiling try with

1368
01:12:09,347 --> 01:12:12,587
Speaker 2: a grubber laid on it. It's like, so it's next

1369
01:12:12,627 --> 01:12:14,707
Speaker 2: man up mentality, which I just love.

1370
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Speaker 21: Yes' depth, finey and I've I've got. I really feel

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01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:22,947
Speaker 21: that we are going places. I really do.

1372
01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:27,547
Speaker 2: Good to hear, Frank. May the flag fly in Papakura

1373
01:12:27,787 --> 01:12:30,587
Speaker 2: many more weeks in the in the rest of the

1374
01:12:30,627 --> 01:12:32,627
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. Great to chat to you, mate,

1375
01:12:32,627 --> 01:12:34,867
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, twenty to two Let's take a break come

1376
01:12:34,867 --> 01:12:36,467
Speaker 2: back with James mcconey.

1377
01:12:36,627 --> 01:12:42,267
Speaker 1: One crutch Hold engaged weekends for with Jason Him and GJ.

1378
01:12:42,427 --> 01:12:45,907
Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's ice trusted Omilder News talks to.

1379
01:12:45,987 --> 01:12:50,267
Speaker 2: Baby one four. James mcconey, Hello.

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01:12:50,747 --> 01:12:53,147
Speaker 7: Hello, Piney, how are you very good?

1381
01:12:53,227 --> 01:12:56,947
Speaker 2: Thanks? There's lots to be positive about unless, of course,

1382
01:12:56,987 --> 01:12:59,427
Speaker 2: you're a Chiefs fan. What happened in that second half

1383
01:12:59,547 --> 01:13:00,067
Speaker 2: last night?

1384
01:13:00,827 --> 01:13:06,427
Speaker 7: Ah? Okay, let's rip off the bad aid. Look, I

1385
01:13:06,427 --> 01:13:09,787
Speaker 7: I thought Lovell terrorists apart, but Bayle and Sullivan, no

1386
01:13:09,827 --> 01:13:12,547
Speaker 7: one's singing that pony. No one singing.

1387
01:13:14,107 --> 01:13:14,467
Speaker 5: Apart.

1388
01:13:15,347 --> 01:13:19,187
Speaker 7: But the thing is, I actually think Bayln Sullivan's been

1389
01:13:19,187 --> 01:13:21,227
Speaker 7: a really good player for a long time. But it's

1390
01:13:21,267 --> 01:13:23,987
Speaker 7: more so they have the Hurricanes when they get together,

1391
01:13:24,907 --> 01:13:28,387
Speaker 7: really just an unstoppable force they've got. You know, they

1392
01:13:28,507 --> 01:13:31,987
Speaker 7: were big forwards, they're well resourced in that area, so

1393
01:13:32,027 --> 01:13:34,027
Speaker 7: you know that they're going to be tough to beat

1394
01:13:34,107 --> 01:13:38,027
Speaker 7: up front. And every time you go into contact, people

1395
01:13:38,067 --> 01:13:40,747
Speaker 7: said TVP seems to be there trying to snatch the ball.

1396
01:13:41,307 --> 01:13:43,547
Speaker 7: So that's a problem even just setting the ball up

1397
01:13:43,547 --> 01:13:46,907
Speaker 7: as the opposition as fought with danger. But they were

1398
01:13:46,947 --> 01:13:49,347
Speaker 7: just they were just too good. I mean, the Chiefs.

1399
01:13:49,987 --> 01:13:52,627
Speaker 7: I don't want to turn from Chiefs Mona to Chiefs Mona,

1400
01:13:52,787 --> 01:13:56,187
Speaker 7: but Ruben Love probably should have been been for a

1401
01:13:56,227 --> 01:13:59,147
Speaker 7: deliberate knockdown when a try was about to be scored.

1402
01:13:59,507 --> 01:14:03,627
Speaker 7: I agree with that, right, yeah, yeah, I mean, but

1403
01:14:03,787 --> 01:14:05,947
Speaker 7: and that I'm not saying that's the turning point that

1404
01:14:06,027 --> 01:14:07,747
Speaker 7: would have made a bit of difference. But I think

1405
01:14:07,787 --> 01:14:10,387
Speaker 7: the way the Hurricanes played in the in the second

1406
01:14:10,387 --> 01:14:11,307
Speaker 7: half just too good.

1407
01:14:11,347 --> 01:14:11,627
Speaker 11: Really.

1408
01:14:12,707 --> 01:14:15,347
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs will still be okay. And you know,

1409
01:14:15,387 --> 01:14:18,227
Speaker 2: I mean it's only one game and they're still up

1410
01:14:18,267 --> 01:14:21,947
Speaker 2: in the upper echelons of the table. Yeah, I mean

1411
01:14:22,027 --> 01:14:25,587
Speaker 2: they'll they'll look forward to getting Damien McKenzie back. Clayton

1412
01:14:25,627 --> 01:14:28,027
Speaker 2: McMillin said after the game last night that he's on track.

1413
01:14:28,027 --> 01:14:30,107
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means in terms of when,

1414
01:14:30,307 --> 01:14:34,227
Speaker 2: but you know, I liked I like Josh Jacob a lot,

1415
01:14:34,507 --> 01:14:38,107
Speaker 2: but there's only one d mac right, that's.

1416
01:14:37,987 --> 01:14:41,667
Speaker 7: Right, And I think, look, the Damien McKenzie will always

1417
01:14:41,667 --> 01:14:44,387
Speaker 7: make a massive difference. Well, you know, as Chiefs fans

1418
01:14:44,387 --> 01:14:47,107
Speaker 7: were always saying we miss Brody when he was out,

1419
01:14:47,147 --> 01:14:49,987
Speaker 7: Brady Retaler. Now it's Brady McAllister. He's been so good

1420
01:14:50,187 --> 01:14:53,467
Speaker 7: and I think not having him up front at hockey

1421
01:14:53,547 --> 01:14:57,467
Speaker 7: yesterday made a big difference as well. So you know,

1422
01:14:57,707 --> 01:15:00,187
Speaker 7: he's gone a mainstay this season. But I guess the

1423
01:15:00,187 --> 01:15:04,107
Speaker 7: big question when you look at its overall, I think

1424
01:15:04,187 --> 01:15:08,227
Speaker 7: mccains are still championship material. I thought that before at

1425
01:15:08,267 --> 01:15:10,627
Speaker 7: the start of the season. You know, that pointing, and

1426
01:15:11,627 --> 01:15:13,827
Speaker 7: I was a little bit skeptical about the Chiefs too.

1427
01:15:13,867 --> 01:15:16,587
Speaker 7: I think we've talked about that as well. But when

1428
01:15:16,587 --> 01:15:19,187
Speaker 7: you look at Higgins and Proctor and midfield, there's so

1429
01:15:19,307 --> 01:15:21,987
Speaker 7: much to like about that combination. And even in just

1430
01:15:22,187 --> 01:15:26,027
Speaker 7: you know, sort of two and a half games, you'd say,

1431
01:15:26,067 --> 01:15:30,587
Speaker 7: Billy Procter is ahead of Rico Yowani at center right, and.

1432
01:15:30,707 --> 01:15:32,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, indeed.

1433
01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:35,667
Speaker 7: And then also, you know, what is love?

1434
01:15:36,187 --> 01:15:36,947
Speaker 2: What is love?

1435
01:15:37,627 --> 01:15:38,067
Speaker 16: Susy?

1436
01:15:38,147 --> 01:15:42,907
Speaker 7: You fullback the first five? Ohm or what is he?

1437
01:15:43,107 --> 01:15:46,307
Speaker 7: I think he is a first five because he's played

1438
01:15:46,307 --> 01:15:48,947
Speaker 7: that well and he's not super quick for a fullback.

1439
01:15:49,347 --> 01:15:51,267
Speaker 7: So I think his future if he wants to make

1440
01:15:51,307 --> 01:15:54,307
Speaker 7: the A B's at number ten, and that's where Shad

1441
01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:55,027
Speaker 7: should stay.

1442
01:15:55,467 --> 01:15:56,547
Speaker 2: I feel like we've just got a lot bit of

1443
01:15:56,547 --> 01:15:59,107
Speaker 2: a preview of a super rugby segment on the crowd

1444
01:15:59,147 --> 01:16:02,787
Speaker 2: goes while there with with what is Love? I won't

1445
01:16:02,787 --> 01:16:05,947
Speaker 2: be at all surprised if that turns up tomorrow night

1446
01:16:06,027 --> 01:16:09,747
Speaker 2: around seven o'clock we white with bait and Breath. Now

1447
01:16:09,747 --> 01:16:12,187
Speaker 2: the Warriors. The Warriors have been a few people ringing

1448
01:16:12,267 --> 01:16:13,867
Speaker 2: with adjectives that I'm going to read some of them

1449
01:16:13,907 --> 01:16:18,707
Speaker 2: to you. Composure, discipline, depth, resolve. I think they all apply,

1450
01:16:18,827 --> 01:16:19,227
Speaker 2: don't they?

1451
01:16:20,067 --> 01:16:25,267
Speaker 7: Yeah, heart attack. It is like there's a lot of

1452
01:16:25,507 --> 01:16:27,507
Speaker 7: things to like about the Warriors, but one of the

1453
01:16:27,547 --> 01:16:31,627
Speaker 7: best things I thought was the signature game for Luke

1454
01:16:31,707 --> 01:16:35,707
Speaker 7: Metcal for the signature half for the for our half back,

1455
01:16:35,747 --> 01:16:38,387
Speaker 7: which is just seeing him run the game, just be

1456
01:16:38,507 --> 01:16:43,867
Speaker 7: so dominant, the crispness of the passing. You know, I

1457
01:16:44,027 --> 01:16:47,707
Speaker 7: switched from the Chiefs Hurricanes to the to the wires

1458
01:16:47,787 --> 01:16:49,947
Speaker 7: and it was actually kind of like, I know they

1459
01:16:49,987 --> 01:16:51,627
Speaker 7: were in the decline, but I went back to watch

1460
01:16:51,667 --> 01:16:55,347
Speaker 7: the highlights and wow, the Warriors were impressive, just crowding

1461
01:16:55,387 --> 01:16:58,627
Speaker 7: gaps like we haven't done for quite some time. Nika Halasima,

1462
01:16:58,787 --> 01:17:01,907
Speaker 7: who will be in the Superstar in the making, he

1463
01:17:01,987 --> 01:17:04,307
Speaker 7: made his name with some big defense last night, rather

1464
01:17:04,347 --> 01:17:06,947
Speaker 7: than those sort of signature runs that he's starting to

1465
01:17:07,227 --> 01:17:09,987
Speaker 7: come up with. But you know, there was one defensive

1466
01:17:09,987 --> 01:17:12,267
Speaker 7: play from little team to a picky where he forced

1467
01:17:12,267 --> 01:17:15,627
Speaker 7: the ball. I think that that was impressive. The effort

1468
01:17:16,307 --> 01:17:19,707
Speaker 7: and the accuracy just to get that ball down made

1469
01:17:19,707 --> 01:17:24,347
Speaker 7: a big difference. And you know what, I think, would

1470
01:17:24,387 --> 01:17:26,227
Speaker 7: it be a party? Are we going to say it

1471
01:17:26,707 --> 01:17:27,067
Speaker 7: I think so.

1472
01:17:27,627 --> 01:17:29,587
Speaker 2: I think we can. I think we can safely say it.

1473
01:17:29,747 --> 01:17:32,547
Speaker 2: I've been saying quite often today it's our best ever

1474
01:17:32,627 --> 01:17:35,667
Speaker 2: eight game start. And when you consider they had to

1475
01:17:35,707 --> 01:17:38,787
Speaker 2: bounce back from the disappointment of Vegas and the shell

1476
01:17:38,787 --> 01:17:40,627
Speaker 2: Ac and they got in the first half against the Storm.

1477
01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:43,427
Speaker 2: The resilience, that is what I like, the fact that

1478
01:17:43,427 --> 01:17:45,827
Speaker 2: they can you know, it's a long season. You are

1479
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:47,787
Speaker 2: going to suffer disappointment. They put it behind them and

1480
01:17:47,827 --> 01:17:48,187
Speaker 2: moved on.

1481
01:17:48,867 --> 01:17:50,387
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Storm was the only team that

1482
01:17:50,467 --> 01:17:53,147
Speaker 7: scares me. Really. I looked at that top six, top

1483
01:17:53,187 --> 01:17:55,587
Speaker 7: eight even and I'd save the Storm looked like the

1484
01:17:55,587 --> 01:17:57,787
Speaker 7: only team that you'd say would go to the Grand

1485
01:17:57,787 --> 01:18:00,147
Speaker 7: Final and probably win it. But I think we're as

1486
01:18:00,187 --> 01:18:02,347
Speaker 7: good as anyone else in the eighth I agree.

1487
01:18:02,427 --> 01:18:04,667
Speaker 2: Are you watching the NBA Playoffs at the moment.

1488
01:18:05,187 --> 01:18:07,787
Speaker 7: Yes, I am, and I just thought it's an absolute blowout,

1489
01:18:07,827 --> 01:18:11,307
Speaker 7: so that even though the La Clipper, Zonna Steve Farmer

1490
01:18:11,427 --> 01:18:16,027
Speaker 7: flew fans to Denver to create the wall of fans

1491
01:18:16,027 --> 01:18:18,267
Speaker 7: that they have back in LA, there would have been

1492
01:18:18,347 --> 01:18:23,427
Speaker 7: thirty points down for most of the second half. So yep,

1493
01:18:23,547 --> 01:18:27,227
Speaker 7: it looks like the Nuggets with a big Nicole Yokich

1494
01:18:27,267 --> 01:18:30,747
Speaker 7: will go through. But I was really intrigued by Lebron

1495
01:18:30,827 --> 01:18:33,387
Speaker 7: James kind of humming and hiring about whether he's going

1496
01:18:33,427 --> 01:18:37,307
Speaker 7: to retire or not. And that's an interesting sort of

1497
01:18:37,507 --> 01:18:40,307
Speaker 7: case study. And I guess we watch the space because

1498
01:18:40,907 --> 01:18:42,667
Speaker 7: I don't think he's done anything that's to prove you.

1499
01:18:42,707 --> 01:18:47,147
Speaker 7: Sai'd like to get more another title, but I don't

1500
01:18:47,187 --> 01:18:49,827
Speaker 7: think he's ever going to catch Jordan really in terms

1501
01:18:49,867 --> 01:18:54,947
Speaker 7: of how people feel about the Goat conversation. So Lebron,

1502
01:18:55,147 --> 01:18:58,067
Speaker 7: you know he's getting I think he is. He forty one.

1503
01:18:58,107 --> 01:19:00,347
Speaker 2: Pioneer, Yeah yeah, forty one. Yeah.

1504
01:19:00,707 --> 01:19:02,587
Speaker 7: I think he thinks it's old. But I was playing

1505
01:19:02,627 --> 01:19:06,027
Speaker 7: someone my big sport at forty one. Admittedly it was

1506
01:19:06,427 --> 01:19:09,027
Speaker 7: seven a side soccer and a little bit of over

1507
01:19:09,107 --> 01:19:14,267
Speaker 7: thirty five's touch, but you know, maybe maybe that's the

1508
01:19:14,427 --> 01:19:14,947
Speaker 7: end of the king.

1509
01:19:15,547 --> 01:19:17,547
Speaker 2: Well I'm fifty four and I feel like my best

1510
01:19:17,627 --> 01:19:18,867
Speaker 2: days might still be ahead of me.

1511
01:19:20,387 --> 01:19:24,347
Speaker 7: Yeah, still looking pine, still trying to check away.

1512
01:19:24,187 --> 01:19:27,707
Speaker 2: I am, I am hey? Can we just finished with football?

1513
01:19:27,747 --> 01:19:30,667
Speaker 2: Auckland FC. They lost last night. It didn't matter in

1514
01:19:30,747 --> 01:19:34,067
Speaker 2: terms of their table position, but is this in any

1515
01:19:34,107 --> 01:19:36,587
Speaker 2: way a red flag as we head towards the finals,

1516
01:19:36,587 --> 01:19:38,947
Speaker 2: do you think, well.

1517
01:19:38,787 --> 01:19:43,227
Speaker 7: The reliefs, they can't really play that Western United in

1518
01:19:43,267 --> 01:19:47,707
Speaker 7: the semi finals, I think, because there's no way that

1519
01:19:47,787 --> 01:19:50,427
Speaker 7: they can play a team that's going to finish third.

1520
01:19:50,907 --> 01:19:51,107
Speaker 20: Yep.

1521
01:19:51,147 --> 01:19:54,107
Speaker 2: Correct, they can only meet them in the grand final. Correct, Yes,

1522
01:19:54,147 --> 01:19:54,627
Speaker 2: that's right.

1523
01:19:55,067 --> 01:19:57,027
Speaker 7: So they can only meet them at home if we

1524
01:19:57,147 --> 01:20:00,787
Speaker 7: if we meet the grand finals. So there's that look

1525
01:20:01,027 --> 01:20:02,667
Speaker 7: is that they had a big blowout. I went to

1526
01:20:02,747 --> 01:20:08,027
Speaker 7: training on Tuesday, I think when I saw them, and yeah,

1527
01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:11,107
Speaker 7: they're definitely tied one iu. It might have even been Wednesday.

1528
01:20:11,427 --> 01:20:13,947
Speaker 7: They had a few big nights. Is to say that,

1529
01:20:14,107 --> 01:20:16,307
Speaker 7: so this is always going to be a blowout game.

1530
01:20:16,307 --> 01:20:19,907
Speaker 7: They're running out the alcohol, let's be honest. Even Steve

1531
01:20:19,947 --> 01:20:24,027
Speaker 7: Kayriker admitted that. So they can they can forget what

1532
01:20:24,147 --> 01:20:26,867
Speaker 7: happened really of this weekend and just focus on what

1533
01:20:27,027 --> 01:20:29,987
Speaker 7: happens next. I don't think the big concern for me

1534
01:20:30,107 --> 01:20:32,587
Speaker 7: is that if if we play someone like Adelaide, I

1535
01:20:32,587 --> 01:20:36,027
Speaker 7: think Adelaide are the real sort of steak in the

1536
01:20:36,067 --> 01:20:38,507
Speaker 7: grass there. They could they could buy this, and so

1537
01:20:39,147 --> 01:20:41,827
Speaker 7: that's really the real concern. And and of course a

1538
01:20:41,827 --> 01:20:44,867
Speaker 7: bit of a longer flights over there, and but that's

1539
01:20:44,907 --> 01:20:46,707
Speaker 7: how I feel that it will permis. See, don't worry,

1540
01:20:46,747 --> 01:20:50,107
Speaker 7: don't panic. Hopefully we get you pony to call a

1541
01:20:50,187 --> 01:20:51,107
Speaker 7: Grand final at home.

1542
01:20:51,507 --> 01:20:55,187
Speaker 2: Well I'm I'm certainly available if that opportunity presents itself,

1543
01:20:55,507 --> 01:20:56,267
Speaker 2: looking forward to that.

1544
01:20:56,427 --> 01:20:56,627
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1545
01:20:56,667 --> 01:20:58,427
Speaker 2: So, I mean they get the week off now the

1546
01:20:58,467 --> 01:21:00,867
Speaker 2: way it works, I'm sure most people know this, but

1547
01:21:00,947 --> 01:21:02,987
Speaker 2: by virtual of finishing in the top two, they get

1548
01:21:03,027 --> 01:21:05,387
Speaker 2: the first week of the finals off three v six,

1549
01:21:05,387 --> 01:21:06,947
Speaker 2: four v five and then the go to home and

1550
01:21:06,987 --> 01:21:09,547
Speaker 2: away semis. So yeah, look, I think they'll probably use

1551
01:21:09,627 --> 01:21:12,387
Speaker 2: the week to refresh a little. But I think of

1552
01:21:12,467 --> 01:21:15,587
Speaker 2: anything you know, last night will probably be you know,

1553
01:21:16,467 --> 01:21:19,187
Speaker 2: a not a reality check necessarily, but there certainly won't

1554
01:21:19,227 --> 01:21:22,107
Speaker 2: be any complacency, now, will they exactly?

1555
01:21:22,267 --> 01:21:24,987
Speaker 7: I mean that they're in a good spot. They know

1556
01:21:25,387 --> 01:21:29,387
Speaker 7: they've got pretty much a full team cheat to choose from,

1557
01:21:29,507 --> 01:21:31,747
Speaker 7: and even some of those players like Max Master must

1558
01:21:31,747 --> 01:21:35,187
Speaker 7: have missed probably five chances the other night, and I

1559
01:21:35,187 --> 01:21:37,187
Speaker 7: don't think you did that again in another game. He

1560
01:21:37,307 --> 01:21:40,667
Speaker 7: just knows that he's in good form but just needs

1561
01:21:40,707 --> 01:21:43,947
Speaker 7: to or getting into the right places, let's we should say,

1562
01:21:44,227 --> 01:21:47,067
Speaker 7: but just needs to finish those chances. So imagine if he,

1563
01:21:47,627 --> 01:21:49,387
Speaker 7: you know, scored a hat trick at home, you know,

1564
01:21:49,667 --> 01:21:52,867
Speaker 7: I wouldn't put it past them. And then speaking of strikers,

1565
01:21:52,947 --> 01:21:56,947
Speaker 7: Chris Wood made an EPL Team of the season, so

1566
01:21:57,667 --> 01:22:00,347
Speaker 7: that's pretty good for you know, New Zealand as well.

1567
01:22:00,867 --> 01:22:03,947
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, what's love got to do with it? James?

1568
01:22:04,987 --> 01:22:09,067
Speaker 7: Well, everything really, you know, you can't hurry love though, just.

1569
01:22:09,107 --> 01:22:13,747
Speaker 2: At the way, love our chats, mate, Love our chats.

1570
01:22:13,907 --> 01:22:18,547
Speaker 2: James mcconey, Craig goes Wild, alternative commentary, Collective and Sunday

1571
01:22:18,587 --> 01:22:20,787
Speaker 2: Afternoons here on News Talk ted B sevent to two.

1572
01:22:21,667 --> 01:22:26,667
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekend

1573
01:22:26,707 --> 01:22:29,907
Speaker 1: sport with Jason Vine. News Talk ZENB.

1574
01:22:30,387 --> 01:22:33,267
Speaker 2: Four to two. After the news at to Motor Sport,

1575
01:22:33,387 --> 01:22:37,027
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson was well in line for his first points

1576
01:22:37,147 --> 01:22:40,667
Speaker 2: of the season in Miami overnight, unfortunately stripped of the

1577
01:22:40,707 --> 01:22:45,387
Speaker 2: points he thought he had in the sprint race, judged

1578
01:22:45,427 --> 01:22:47,067
Speaker 2: to have been at fault for an incident with Aston

1579
01:22:47,107 --> 01:22:51,027
Speaker 2: Martin's Fernando Alonzo. So how are we feeling about Liam

1580
01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:56,507
Speaker 2: Lawson and his progress? A couple of pretty astute motorsport writers,

1581
01:22:56,587 --> 01:22:59,067
Speaker 2: Eric Thompson and Alex Powell. We'll get you to the

1582
01:22:59,107 --> 01:23:02,067
Speaker 2: World Snooker Champs and to Dunedin to preview the Highlanders

1583
01:23:02,067 --> 01:23:06,187
Speaker 2: against Mowa PACIFICA.

1584
01:23:04,867 --> 01:23:07,547
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss them the biggest sports issues

1585
01:23:07,627 --> 01:23:11,467
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with

1586
01:23:11,707 --> 01:23:15,827
Speaker 1: Jason Vaine on your home of Sport US.

1587
01:23:17,707 --> 01:23:19,667
Speaker 2: Well, welcome into the show. Welcome back to the show

1588
01:23:19,707 --> 01:23:22,267
Speaker 2: two seven. I'm Jason Pine. This is Weekend Sport a

1589
01:23:22,467 --> 01:23:26,787
Speaker 2: McDonald looking after all the far more serious things while

1590
01:23:26,827 --> 01:23:31,107
Speaker 2: we just talk about a sport motorsport shortly, heartbreak for

1591
01:23:31,147 --> 01:23:33,947
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson. He's been stripped of his points finish in

1592
01:23:34,227 --> 01:23:37,187
Speaker 2: Formula one's Miami Grand Prix sprint race. He was seventh

1593
01:23:37,467 --> 01:23:40,507
Speaker 2: across the line to score two points, but then handed

1594
01:23:40,547 --> 01:23:44,707
Speaker 2: a five second penalty. He reckons he wasn't to blame.

1595
01:23:44,907 --> 01:23:47,147
Speaker 2: What do we make of all? We've assembled a mini

1596
01:23:47,227 --> 01:23:51,027
Speaker 2: motorsport panel, well mini in number, but certainly not in stature.

1597
01:23:51,587 --> 01:23:54,067
Speaker 2: Alex Powell and Eric Thompson to join us shortly to

1598
01:23:54,107 --> 01:23:57,387
Speaker 2: talk through this, prospects for the main race tomorrow which

1599
01:23:57,507 --> 01:24:01,467
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson has qualified fifteenth for and is he going faster?

1600
01:24:01,907 --> 01:24:04,827
Speaker 2: Is he getting the hang? Of this, Liam Lawson, so

1601
01:24:04,947 --> 01:24:07,507
Speaker 2: Motorsport to kick us off this hour. Then we'll get

1602
01:24:07,547 --> 01:24:10,427
Speaker 2: you to the UK where we've got our finalists for

1603
01:24:10,467 --> 01:24:16,067
Speaker 2: the World Snooker Championship twenty twenty five. Ronnie O'Sullivan just

1604
01:24:16,267 --> 01:24:22,347
Speaker 2: collapsing and rather spectacular and unfortunate fashion, going down seventeen

1605
01:24:22,587 --> 01:24:25,467
Speaker 2: frames to seven with a session to spare against the

1606
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:30,147
Speaker 2: Chinese player Jao Shintong. He will face Mark Williams, the

1607
01:24:30,147 --> 01:24:32,907
Speaker 2: Welshman three time former champion who got past jug Trump

1608
01:24:32,907 --> 01:24:35,707
Speaker 2: in a classic seventeen frames to fourteen, and the other

1609
01:24:35,747 --> 01:24:38,147
Speaker 2: Seemi this morning. Michael Day out of the UK on

1610
01:24:38,187 --> 01:24:40,507
Speaker 2: that and then we'll get you to Dunedin under the

1611
01:24:40,587 --> 01:24:45,467
Speaker 2: roof this afternoon. Some Sunday afternoons, Super Rugby, Goldsport and iHeartRadio.

1612
01:24:46,947 --> 01:24:48,907
Speaker 2: We have the call for you from three thirty five.

1613
01:24:49,227 --> 01:24:52,427
Speaker 2: Paul Allison, Paul Miller, Mark Ranby, what a lineup. Paul

1614
01:24:52,427 --> 01:24:54,307
Speaker 2: Allison going to chat to us about that game before

1615
01:24:54,427 --> 01:24:56,707
Speaker 2: three o'clock. We'll keep eyes on Live Sport for you.

1616
01:24:57,067 --> 01:24:59,307
Speaker 2: We'll take your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten

1617
01:24:59,427 --> 01:25:02,427
Speaker 2: eighty or nine two ninety two on text. Anything you

1618
01:25:02,427 --> 01:25:05,227
Speaker 2: want to get off your chest or anything that you

1619
01:25:05,387 --> 01:25:09,107
Speaker 2: hear that that you know requires an opinion from you.

1620
01:25:09,147 --> 01:25:11,707
Speaker 2: We're quite happy for you to do that. But with

1621
01:25:11,827 --> 01:25:15,267
Speaker 2: a time approaching two nine, as we always do, let's

1622
01:25:15,267 --> 01:25:17,387
Speaker 2: get you across some of the stuff that's happened outside

1623
01:25:17,387 --> 01:25:21,267
Speaker 2: of your awareness. You can't keep your eyes on everything.

1624
01:25:21,307 --> 01:25:24,427
Speaker 2: We know that in case you missed it. Starting with

1625
01:25:24,587 --> 01:25:29,307
Speaker 2: a very happy twenty first birthday for Newcastle knightstar Fletcher Sharp.

1626
01:25:29,987 --> 01:25:33,187
Speaker 2: Now Sharp comes across the poet, keeps it going to

1627
01:25:33,347 --> 01:25:34,867
Speaker 2: best on one.

1628
01:25:34,787 --> 01:25:37,027
Speaker 1: Tackle there gives it back to Fletcher Sharp.

1629
01:25:37,227 --> 01:25:40,667
Speaker 13: He'll weave his way all the way to a twenty

1630
01:25:40,747 --> 01:25:42,947
Speaker 13: first birthday hat trick.

1631
01:25:44,107 --> 01:25:48,907
Speaker 2: That's how you celebrate. Pumps it into the stairs, Lecher Sharp.

1632
01:25:48,987 --> 01:25:49,387
Speaker 7: Here what on?

1633
01:25:49,467 --> 01:25:52,427
Speaker 2: Fletcher Sharp leading the Knights to a much needed thirty

1634
01:25:52,467 --> 01:25:54,587
Speaker 2: points to four went over the rabbit oas meantime, an

1635
01:25:54,587 --> 01:25:57,987
Speaker 2: impressive performance from the Tigers to beat the Dragons. The

1636
01:25:58,067 --> 01:26:00,987
Speaker 2: Tigers are shifting around to the left. Louise with a ball,

1637
01:26:01,107 --> 01:26:01,947
Speaker 2: they're going to run it.

1638
01:26:02,067 --> 01:26:05,387
Speaker 7: Here's Galvin now puller, that's that big three out to do.

1639
01:26:05,587 --> 01:26:10,507
Speaker 15: He stayed to Dooey tix it up Baker.

1640
01:26:10,307 --> 01:26:13,787
Speaker 4: The Tigers they moved late.

1641
01:26:14,587 --> 01:26:18,507
Speaker 2: The pig ups all got involved and the result is

1642
01:26:18,547 --> 01:26:20,947
Speaker 2: a try thirty four to twenty eight. The final score

1643
01:26:20,987 --> 01:26:24,627
Speaker 2: there to Super Rugby. The Brumbies showing their class over

1644
01:26:24,667 --> 01:26:26,227
Speaker 2: the Warror Tarzan camera ed.

1645
01:26:26,267 --> 01:26:29,307
Speaker 13: Man, I'm toes in the handles for the best arts

1646
01:26:29,347 --> 01:26:33,747
Speaker 13: Hugy on the ground for ten Edmund Rigel the arts

1647
01:26:33,827 --> 01:26:34,747
Speaker 13: met on the field.

1648
01:26:35,187 --> 01:26:38,547
Speaker 2: The Waters want a scene with a.

1649
01:26:38,627 --> 01:26:42,307
Speaker 13: Balling ham and doesn't hit space Excoosy.

1650
01:26:41,787 --> 01:26:45,187
Speaker 2: Sitting a final score of forty points to seventeen, keeping

1651
01:26:45,187 --> 01:26:48,307
Speaker 2: the Brumbies firmly in the top three and a football

1652
01:26:48,507 --> 01:26:51,947
Speaker 2: and impressive come from behind when for Bournemouth over Arsenal

1653
01:26:52,187 --> 01:26:57,987
Speaker 2: took the tin and he's tapping air and it's touching.

1654
01:26:58,867 --> 01:26:59,667
Speaker 2: There was Anna.

1655
01:26:59,507 --> 01:27:05,707
Speaker 13: Nelson goalkeeper muggled on his online I'm boman to term

1656
01:27:05,827 --> 01:27:08,827
Speaker 13: this game one it's had and maybe on their rasid.

1657
01:27:08,867 --> 01:27:11,387
Speaker 2: I first haven't win at the Everts and they were

1658
01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:16,267
Speaker 2: and Western United have undone Auckland FC in their final

1659
01:27:16,387 --> 01:27:18,227
Speaker 2: game of the A Leagues regular season.

1660
01:27:18,467 --> 01:27:22,667
Speaker 13: This what's sailor natas.

1661
01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,027
Speaker 2: Least didn't know that.

1662
01:27:26,787 --> 01:27:29,907
Speaker 13: The Green and Black I'm gonna win on the final

1663
01:27:30,027 --> 01:27:33,547
Speaker 13: DAYNAS season and name I get a player home.

1664
01:27:33,467 --> 01:27:34,747
Speaker 20: Final next weekend.

1665
01:27:35,427 --> 01:27:39,107
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

1666
01:27:39,267 --> 01:27:41,387
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine.

1667
01:27:41,467 --> 01:27:41,987
Speaker 7: They call.

1668
01:27:43,587 --> 01:27:44,387
Speaker 1: Us talks Envy.

1669
01:27:45,307 --> 01:27:48,387
Speaker 2: It is coming up. Twelve minutes past two. Liam Lawson's

1670
01:27:48,387 --> 01:27:51,547
Speaker 2: been handled a five second time penalty and has therefore

1671
01:27:51,667 --> 01:27:55,547
Speaker 2: lost his points finish from Formula one's Miami Grand Prix

1672
01:27:55,707 --> 01:27:59,547
Speaker 2: sprint race. After qualifying fourteenth, Lawson look to have finished

1673
01:27:59,867 --> 01:28:02,907
Speaker 2: seventh in the eighteen lap affair shortened by one lap

1674
01:28:03,027 --> 01:28:05,107
Speaker 2: due to rain, but the key we is judged to

1675
01:28:05,147 --> 01:28:07,707
Speaker 2: have been at fault for an incident with Aston Martin's

1676
01:28:07,747 --> 01:28:12,507
Speaker 2: Fernando Alonso, who crashed in the final lapse of the race. Now,

1677
01:28:12,747 --> 01:28:16,507
Speaker 2: Lawson himself didn't believe that he was at fault for

1678
01:28:16,947 --> 01:28:20,667
Speaker 2: the incident. He spoke about it shortly after the finish

1679
01:28:20,747 --> 01:28:21,827
Speaker 2: of the sprint race.

1680
01:28:22,507 --> 01:28:25,147
Speaker 8: He came out on Cole tires and I'd done lap,

1681
01:28:25,227 --> 01:28:26,747
Speaker 8: so I was trying to get by him early in

1682
01:28:26,747 --> 01:28:28,427
Speaker 8: the lap. Made sure you my wheel was ahead at

1683
01:28:28,467 --> 01:28:31,267
Speaker 8: the apex, wouldn't try and overtake, and I feel I

1684
01:28:31,347 --> 01:28:33,027
Speaker 8: did that and then I got some squeezed off, so

1685
01:28:33,307 --> 01:28:35,707
Speaker 8: obviously not my intention, but I do feel like my

1686
01:28:35,707 --> 01:28:36,347
Speaker 8: wheels ahead.

1687
01:28:36,507 --> 01:28:38,747
Speaker 2: So seventh in the sprint would have netted laws and

1688
01:28:38,827 --> 01:28:41,907
Speaker 2: two points and betters his ninth placings from Grand Prix

1689
01:28:41,987 --> 01:28:45,227
Speaker 2: and Singapore in twenty twenty three and Austin and Brazil

1690
01:28:45,347 --> 01:28:48,347
Speaker 2: last year. But not to be He will start fifteenth

1691
01:28:48,427 --> 01:28:52,267
Speaker 2: meantime in tomorrow's main race after being eliminated in the

1692
01:28:52,307 --> 01:28:55,947
Speaker 2: second session of qualifying for the second consecutive day. Let's

1693
01:28:55,987 --> 01:28:59,707
Speaker 2: talk some motorsport and two of my favorite motorsport writers

1694
01:28:59,747 --> 01:29:02,747
Speaker 2: have assembled. I've summoned them and I have answered the call.

1695
01:29:02,867 --> 01:29:05,107
Speaker 2: You can read them both at enzidherld dot co dot MZ.

1696
01:29:05,587 --> 01:29:08,827
Speaker 2: Eric Thompson and Alex Powell. Alex, can we start with you?

1697
01:29:09,307 --> 01:29:12,627
Speaker 2: What happened that led to Liam Lawson being given the

1698
01:29:12,747 --> 01:29:13,507
Speaker 2: time penalty?

1699
01:29:14,107 --> 01:29:15,547
Speaker 22: Afternoon piney hope you are mate.

1700
01:29:15,627 --> 01:29:15,787
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1701
01:29:15,787 --> 01:29:17,387
Speaker 22: It's a bit of a funny one, isn't it, Because

1702
01:29:17,387 --> 01:29:19,347
Speaker 22: I mean, you look at the Stewart's official ruling. They

1703
01:29:19,427 --> 01:29:22,947
Speaker 22: considered that Lawson was ahead at turn twelve. I think

1704
01:29:22,987 --> 01:29:25,187
Speaker 22: if you watch the replays you see that. But because

1705
01:29:25,227 --> 01:29:28,227
Speaker 22: Alonso was a head at turn eleven, he was the

1706
01:29:28,547 --> 01:29:31,667
Speaker 22: sort of the lead car and because of that, Lawson

1707
01:29:31,827 --> 01:29:33,427
Speaker 22: was in the wrong for forcing him off the track,

1708
01:29:34,627 --> 01:29:35,067
Speaker 22: and so.

1709
01:29:35,347 --> 01:29:38,787
Speaker 2: It was the correct decision that was handed out. Eric Thompson,

1710
01:29:38,827 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 2: welcome to you. You agree with that that it was

1711
01:29:40,867 --> 01:29:43,867
Speaker 2: correct of the officials to hand laws in the time penalty.

1712
01:29:45,027 --> 01:29:48,147
Speaker 19: I mean I never really, honestly, Piney and Hi Alex

1713
01:29:48,907 --> 01:29:53,307
Speaker 19: never really quite understand some of the machinations of the officials.

1714
01:29:53,347 --> 01:29:56,587
Speaker 19: I mean, as Alex said, you know, like Alonso was

1715
01:29:56,667 --> 01:29:58,427
Speaker 19: deemed to be a head in turn eleven and then

1716
01:29:58,547 --> 01:30:02,227
Speaker 19: to use that as some sort of metric to pass

1717
01:30:02,307 --> 01:30:05,747
Speaker 19: down a ruling for the following corner. I just thought

1718
01:30:05,787 --> 01:30:08,667
Speaker 19: it was a bit of But I mean, Lim and

1719
01:30:09,187 --> 01:30:13,627
Speaker 19: Alonzo had a bit of history, have a bit of

1720
01:30:13,667 --> 01:30:14,947
Speaker 19: will to will Argibarji.

1721
01:30:15,067 --> 01:30:16,267
Speaker 14: But I mean I think.

1722
01:30:17,627 --> 01:30:18,427
Speaker 9: It's a bit harsh.

1723
01:30:18,547 --> 01:30:22,507
Speaker 19: But you know something about officials are sort of looking

1724
01:30:22,507 --> 01:30:25,947
Speaker 19: at things and warning things, and you know, going back

1725
01:30:25,947 --> 01:30:27,987
Speaker 19: to the previous corner, I find that very odd.

1726
01:30:29,227 --> 01:30:32,227
Speaker 2: All right, well, even putting that to one side, that

1727
01:30:32,387 --> 01:30:36,187
Speaker 2: happened after the race had finished, Alex, how much confidence

1728
01:30:36,227 --> 01:30:38,987
Speaker 2: will Liam Lawson take from the fact that he actually

1729
01:30:39,067 --> 01:30:41,107
Speaker 2: drove the car pretty well and pretty fast during the

1730
01:30:41,107 --> 01:30:41,627
Speaker 2: sprint race.

1731
01:30:41,827 --> 01:30:43,427
Speaker 22: I mean, I hope he takes a lot of confidence

1732
01:30:43,467 --> 01:30:44,867
Speaker 22: from it, because he needs it. At the moment. You

1733
01:30:44,947 --> 01:30:47,427
Speaker 22: look at how difficult this Miami track is to actually

1734
01:30:47,467 --> 01:30:50,987
Speaker 22: overtake on. Liam Lawson passed five cars on the opening

1735
01:30:50,987 --> 01:30:53,867
Speaker 22: of app alone, Like, that's not easy to do. He's

1736
01:30:53,907 --> 01:30:55,787
Speaker 22: going to be starting a bit further back than he was.

1737
01:30:55,867 --> 01:30:58,147
Speaker 22: I mean, he's starting fifteenth compared to fourteenth, so it's

1738
01:30:58,227 --> 01:31:00,867
Speaker 22: not too much. But if there's rain then I think

1739
01:31:00,947 --> 01:31:02,827
Speaker 22: it really will bring him into it. But I mean,

1740
01:31:02,907 --> 01:31:04,707
Speaker 22: at this point in the season, where so many things

1741
01:31:04,787 --> 01:31:06,227
Speaker 22: have gone wrong for him, you just don't know.

1742
01:31:07,987 --> 01:31:11,027
Speaker 2: Are you seeing improvements in Liam's driving?

1743
01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:18,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, Beck, Alex, I'm saying and even in Liam's post

1744
01:31:18,307 --> 01:31:21,267
Speaker 19: race Chaddy just said something just that things just opened

1745
01:31:21,347 --> 01:31:24,667
Speaker 19: up for me and he went for it. And sometimes

1746
01:31:24,747 --> 01:31:27,347
Speaker 19: that just happens in sort of motorsport. The thing is

1747
01:31:27,347 --> 01:31:29,827
Speaker 19: where you just see this gap through everybody else that

1748
01:31:29,867 --> 01:31:32,387
Speaker 19: hasn't launched off the line as well as you have.

1749
01:31:32,547 --> 01:31:36,027
Speaker 19: And he hooked the car up really really well and

1750
01:31:36,587 --> 01:31:40,267
Speaker 19: drove really well and to finish, you know, we'll think

1751
01:31:40,347 --> 01:31:44,907
Speaker 19: he'll take a lot of confidence from finishing, you know

1752
01:31:45,107 --> 01:31:48,667
Speaker 19: in seventh. You know, despite his penalty, he did finish

1753
01:31:48,867 --> 01:31:52,827
Speaker 19: like on the track in seventh, so and he was

1754
01:31:52,867 --> 01:31:55,387
Speaker 19: on par with his teammate and you know. That's the

1755
01:31:55,467 --> 01:31:57,107
Speaker 19: thing is you and I have talked about Piney that

1756
01:31:57,987 --> 01:32:00,467
Speaker 19: is that the only person you really want to beat

1757
01:32:00,667 --> 01:32:03,787
Speaker 19: in a race is your teammate, and he managed to

1758
01:32:03,827 --> 01:32:09,667
Speaker 19: do that. Tomorrow night's race feature race loads more distance

1759
01:32:09,787 --> 01:32:12,707
Speaker 19: and he's starting, you know, just being's pretty much similar

1760
01:32:12,987 --> 01:32:14,667
Speaker 19: to where he started in the sprint race. He'll have

1761
01:32:14,707 --> 01:32:18,707
Speaker 19: a lot more time to manage the race and hopefully

1762
01:32:18,747 --> 01:32:21,507
Speaker 19: get through. And I think if it rains, that'll change

1763
01:32:21,547 --> 01:32:25,507
Speaker 19: the whole guy. Okay, rain didn't the sprint race, but

1764
01:32:25,547 --> 01:32:27,547
Speaker 19: it'll change the dynamics of it quite a bit. So

1765
01:32:28,307 --> 01:32:29,947
Speaker 19: I reckon he'll go.

1766
01:32:30,067 --> 01:32:34,427
Speaker 2: Okay, Alex, Are you seeing improvements? So he's been in

1767
01:32:34,507 --> 01:32:36,827
Speaker 2: the racing balls car for what three or four Grand Prix?

1768
01:32:36,947 --> 01:32:39,987
Speaker 2: Now are you seeing improvements? Are you seeing a lift

1769
01:32:40,067 --> 01:32:41,947
Speaker 2: in confidence from Liam Lawson?

1770
01:32:42,187 --> 01:32:44,187
Speaker 22: Confidence is hard to say because you know, we don't

1771
01:32:44,227 --> 01:32:47,027
Speaker 22: really get to speak to Liam during a Grand Prix weekend.

1772
01:32:47,107 --> 01:32:48,867
Speaker 22: But in terms of the way he's been driving, if

1773
01:32:48,907 --> 01:32:50,867
Speaker 22: you watch that practice session, remember this was the only

1774
01:32:50,907 --> 01:32:53,387
Speaker 22: practice session that the drivers actually get for the weekend,

1775
01:32:53,427 --> 01:32:55,507
Speaker 22: but every lap he bettered his last lap, So it

1776
01:32:55,587 --> 01:32:58,427
Speaker 22: is a track he's still learning. Remember, like the tricky

1777
01:32:58,467 --> 01:33:00,427
Speaker 22: part of this first part of the season was there

1778
01:33:00,467 --> 01:33:02,787
Speaker 22: are so many tracks that Liam just hadn't driven on before.

1779
01:33:02,907 --> 01:33:04,747
Speaker 22: You So you think of Melbourne, you think of Shanghai,

1780
01:33:04,827 --> 01:33:06,227
Speaker 22: and those were the two that he drove for Red

1781
01:33:06,387 --> 01:33:09,027
Speaker 22: but before he was unfortunately moved back to racing Wars,

1782
01:33:09,067 --> 01:33:10,707
Speaker 22: but those were the ones he'd never driven on before.

1783
01:33:10,787 --> 01:33:13,987
Speaker 22: And then Miami's a similar one. So if that sprint

1784
01:33:14,107 --> 01:33:16,427
Speaker 22: race just turns out to be another learning experience for him,

1785
01:33:16,467 --> 01:33:19,067
Speaker 22: I think it will actually, as Eric pointed, to hold

1786
01:33:19,147 --> 01:33:21,227
Speaker 22: him in good stead for a longer race.

1787
01:33:22,627 --> 01:33:24,827
Speaker 2: Can I start with you, Alex, at what point does

1788
01:33:24,867 --> 01:33:28,387
Speaker 2: it like he just needs points on the board, right,

1789
01:33:28,427 --> 01:33:30,307
Speaker 2: and these would have been points on the board for him.

1790
01:33:30,627 --> 01:33:33,547
Speaker 2: Will it be, you know, something that just sits on

1791
01:33:33,627 --> 01:33:36,027
Speaker 2: his shoulder there until he actually finally gets some points

1792
01:33:36,107 --> 01:33:36,507
Speaker 2: on the board.

1793
01:33:36,707 --> 01:33:39,027
Speaker 22: I think absolutely, Like every driver wants to be scoring points.

1794
01:33:39,027 --> 01:33:40,827
Speaker 22: I also think a lot is being made of the

1795
01:33:40,907 --> 01:33:43,227
Speaker 22: fact that this car is not scoring points because of

1796
01:33:43,267 --> 01:33:45,827
Speaker 22: how well his teammatee Isaac Hadjar is doing. Let's not

1797
01:33:45,907 --> 01:33:48,187
Speaker 22: forget that this Racing Bolls team and this sort of

1798
01:33:48,267 --> 01:33:50,227
Speaker 22: car set up only finished eight out of ten in

1799
01:33:50,267 --> 01:33:52,507
Speaker 22: the Constructor's championship last year, Like, it's not a car

1800
01:33:52,587 --> 01:33:55,427
Speaker 22: that will consistently challenge for points that will get the

1801
01:33:55,467 --> 01:33:57,827
Speaker 22: odd result. But I think if you're going to judge

1802
01:33:57,827 --> 01:34:00,947
Speaker 22: Liam Lawson based on scoring points every week, and then

1803
01:34:00,987 --> 01:34:02,627
Speaker 22: you are giving him or putting him on a bit

1804
01:34:02,627 --> 01:34:03,427
Speaker 22: of a hiding to nothing.

1805
01:34:04,387 --> 01:34:07,387
Speaker 2: So what should our realistic expectations then, Erica are we

1806
01:34:07,627 --> 01:34:09,707
Speaker 2: are we in a situation where we should just accept

1807
01:34:09,987 --> 01:34:12,867
Speaker 2: that Liam Lawson's going to finish in the teams most

1808
01:34:12,947 --> 01:34:13,427
Speaker 2: of the time.

1809
01:34:15,427 --> 01:34:20,147
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's And to Alex's point, absolutely right. The car

1810
01:34:20,387 --> 01:34:23,547
Speaker 19: is not a rocket ship. It really isn't a race

1811
01:34:23,627 --> 01:34:28,387
Speaker 19: winning car, but it doesn't mean that, you know, if

1812
01:34:28,467 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 19: all of the cards fall the right way, that you

1813
01:34:30,867 --> 01:34:34,307
Speaker 19: can't actually end up in the top ten. And Liam

1814
01:34:34,387 --> 01:34:36,507
Speaker 19: has scored points in Formula One, you know, it's not

1815
01:34:36,587 --> 01:34:38,987
Speaker 19: as if he doesn't know how to score points. Like

1816
01:34:39,187 --> 01:34:41,867
Speaker 19: last year he proved he can score points. So I

1817
01:34:42,067 --> 01:34:44,947
Speaker 19: just think it's a bit like the tracks. He's not

1818
01:34:45,067 --> 01:34:48,547
Speaker 19: familiar with street circuit. Basically they're racing in a car park,

1819
01:34:48,787 --> 01:34:51,227
Speaker 19: which is you know, for anybody it's quite hard. But

1820
01:34:51,387 --> 01:34:53,947
Speaker 19: I think as the season progresses, and I think if

1821
01:34:53,987 --> 01:34:57,827
Speaker 19: it gets towards the summer break, the European summer break,

1822
01:34:58,347 --> 01:35:00,187
Speaker 19: he will have a few points, and once he starts

1823
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:02,947
Speaker 19: getting some points, I think consistently, if he can finish

1824
01:35:03,707 --> 01:35:09,627
Speaker 19: between eighth and say twelve consistently, the season would be

1825
01:35:09,707 --> 01:35:10,507
Speaker 19: quite a good result.

1826
01:35:10,867 --> 01:35:13,507
Speaker 2: I think for Liam, he tell you what if you

1827
01:35:13,667 --> 01:35:16,787
Speaker 2: offered If you offered Liam, and this is hypothetical, if

1828
01:35:16,827 --> 01:35:20,427
Speaker 2: you offered Liam points tomorrow morning or are better finished

1829
01:35:20,467 --> 01:35:22,427
Speaker 2: than Handjar, which one do you think he would take?

1830
01:35:23,667 --> 01:35:27,267
Speaker 19: I think a better result than Hadjar. Having been in

1831
01:35:27,427 --> 01:35:29,947
Speaker 19: competitive motorsport in my youth for many years, the thing

1832
01:35:30,027 --> 01:35:31,867
Speaker 19: is if you can just stay, if you can get

1833
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:35,467
Speaker 19: ahead of your teammate, it's confident building, it's you know,

1834
01:35:35,707 --> 01:35:37,627
Speaker 19: it just bodes well. So I mean, I don't know

1835
01:35:38,027 --> 01:35:39,747
Speaker 19: that that would be my call, if you can just

1836
01:35:39,787 --> 01:35:41,627
Speaker 19: finish again a headger Alex.

1837
01:35:41,667 --> 01:35:44,467
Speaker 2: Do you think Liam Lawson's a better driver than Isaac

1838
01:35:44,507 --> 01:35:45,507
Speaker 2: Hadjar and what you've seen?

1839
01:35:45,947 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 22: Yeah, only because I've seen a lot more of Liam

1840
01:35:48,067 --> 01:35:49,947
Speaker 22: than I have seen of Isaac Hadjer. But I think

1841
01:35:49,987 --> 01:35:52,027
Speaker 22: the confidence really is as a shit like we know,

1842
01:35:52,227 --> 01:35:54,467
Speaker 22: like remember in Bahrain he did beat Hadjar on track,

1843
01:35:54,787 --> 01:35:56,707
Speaker 22: but it was a couple of penalties that really put

1844
01:35:56,787 --> 01:35:58,507
Speaker 22: him back. So it's not as though Hajjar is just

1845
01:35:58,587 --> 01:36:00,867
Speaker 22: completely blowing him out of the water. It's just that

1846
01:36:01,027 --> 01:36:04,827
Speaker 22: Haggi has had a longer preseason in this car than

1847
01:36:04,947 --> 01:36:07,307
Speaker 22: what Liam Lawson's had and it will taken time to

1848
01:36:07,547 --> 01:36:09,747
Speaker 22: catch up. But it's just how much time he actually gets.

1849
01:36:10,667 --> 01:36:13,227
Speaker 2: How's Yuki Sonoda going Alex in the in the Red

1850
01:36:13,267 --> 01:36:14,467
Speaker 2: Bull car? Not flash?

1851
01:36:14,547 --> 01:36:16,747
Speaker 22: He scored points? What a couple of races ago he

1852
01:36:16,827 --> 01:36:18,587
Speaker 22: got ninth, but then he's had a DNF. He's at

1853
01:36:18,627 --> 01:36:22,307
Speaker 22: a twelfth. He qualified in the bottom five in the

1854
01:36:22,347 --> 01:36:25,387
Speaker 22: sprint race, which he was upgraded to. I think he

1855
01:36:25,427 --> 01:36:27,387
Speaker 22: got a points finish after all the just qualifications were

1856
01:36:27,387 --> 01:36:29,707
Speaker 22: put in, but he's not exactly pulling up trees either.

1857
01:36:29,747 --> 01:36:32,027
Speaker 22: I think that Red Bull car continues to be problematic

1858
01:36:32,107 --> 01:36:33,827
Speaker 22: for anyone who's not called Maxis Stappin.

1859
01:36:34,627 --> 01:36:38,027
Speaker 2: You'd agree, eat and look. We talked about the Constructors

1860
01:36:38,107 --> 01:36:40,147
Speaker 2: Championship and how important it is, and that's why they

1861
01:36:40,187 --> 01:36:42,987
Speaker 2: made the change from Lawston to Sonoda. As Alex said,

1862
01:36:43,027 --> 01:36:45,587
Speaker 2: he's not ready getting too many points either. Do we

1863
01:36:45,707 --> 01:36:48,187
Speaker 2: just have to again accept that Maxim Steppin's a bit

1864
01:36:48,187 --> 01:36:49,827
Speaker 2: of a genius and not too many others can drive

1865
01:36:49,867 --> 01:36:50,187
Speaker 2: this car.

1866
01:36:51,307 --> 01:36:54,267
Speaker 19: Oh, I think he's an absolute magician. Max to staffin

1867
01:36:54,387 --> 01:36:56,267
Speaker 19: you know that that pole rap he did for the

1868
01:36:56,947 --> 01:36:59,347
Speaker 19: main race, for the feature race was just like like

1869
01:36:59,547 --> 01:37:03,627
Speaker 19: how against sort of the two McClaren's and he was

1870
01:37:03,867 --> 01:37:06,667
Speaker 19: just he just seems to pull something out of the

1871
01:37:06,747 --> 01:37:10,227
Speaker 19: bag when you just don't expect it. And you know,

1872
01:37:10,627 --> 01:37:13,267
Speaker 19: Yiki Sonodo's like Alix Sairs, you know, has picked up

1873
01:37:13,267 --> 01:37:18,507
Speaker 19: the odd points so far, but there's a listening. There

1874
01:37:18,547 --> 01:37:22,627
Speaker 19: are headstones in the graveyard of teammates to Max for

1875
01:37:22,707 --> 01:37:25,867
Speaker 19: Stapen in that car. It's just, you know, it's just

1876
01:37:26,227 --> 01:37:27,027
Speaker 19: weird that car.

1877
01:37:28,547 --> 01:37:30,787
Speaker 2: Alex does I feel to you like the pressure has

1878
01:37:30,907 --> 01:37:33,507
Speaker 2: come off Liam Lawson it's probably his sole equition. He's

1879
01:37:33,507 --> 01:37:35,427
Speaker 2: not in the Red Bull. But do you feel like

1880
01:37:35,427 --> 01:37:38,747
Speaker 2: there's toll like quite a harsh glare on him or not?

1881
01:37:39,187 --> 01:37:39,627
Speaker 19: Absolutely.

1882
01:37:39,667 --> 01:37:41,747
Speaker 22: I think any driver in those two Red Bull teams

1883
01:37:41,787 --> 01:37:43,867
Speaker 22: will have pressure on them because the goal is to

1884
01:37:44,027 --> 01:37:47,627
Speaker 22: get into Red Bull. Let's not forget Red Bulls driving

1885
01:37:47,867 --> 01:37:49,427
Speaker 22: or the future of Red Bulls driving on It is

1886
01:37:49,427 --> 01:37:52,507
Speaker 22: by no means secure. There's doubts or speculation that makes

1887
01:37:52,547 --> 01:37:54,227
Speaker 22: for stapp And might actually call it and say he's

1888
01:37:54,227 --> 01:37:57,187
Speaker 22: had enough, he's just had his first child. Might he

1889
01:37:57,267 --> 01:37:59,387
Speaker 22: want to step away? And then Sonoda might leave as

1890
01:37:59,427 --> 01:38:01,387
Speaker 22: well next year, given that he's only with the team

1891
01:38:01,467 --> 01:38:05,227
Speaker 22: because Honda, the engine supplier, have basically paid ten or

1892
01:38:05,267 --> 01:38:07,667
Speaker 22: sorry inn eight figure something get them in there. So

1893
01:38:07,747 --> 01:38:09,547
Speaker 22: when they leave next year, you could be looking at

1894
01:38:09,787 --> 01:38:12,147
Speaker 22: a space where there are two sets available at Red

1895
01:38:12,187 --> 01:38:15,587
Speaker 22: Bull and if they are using that junior team the

1896
01:38:15,627 --> 01:38:18,027
Speaker 22: way it should be used, then those two cars would

1897
01:38:18,067 --> 01:38:19,627
Speaker 22: be the front runners to replace them. Whether or not,

1898
01:38:19,707 --> 01:38:20,427
Speaker 22: that's how it will go.

1899
01:38:20,747 --> 01:38:24,867
Speaker 2: As to be seen on the grid of Miami et Lando,

1900
01:38:24,947 --> 01:38:28,507
Speaker 2: Norris is second on the grid, has McLaren team made,

1901
01:38:28,547 --> 01:38:33,147
Speaker 2: Oscar Pastree fourth? Are the McLaren's still the fastest cars?

1902
01:38:34,387 --> 01:38:34,587
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1903
01:38:34,667 --> 01:38:38,027
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm they're the benchmark. I mean, you know, like

1904
01:38:39,107 --> 01:38:41,267
Speaker 19: looking at the history of Formula one is you know,

1905
01:38:41,387 --> 01:38:46,427
Speaker 19: some teams just have a time of dominance, and the

1906
01:38:46,547 --> 01:38:49,987
Speaker 19: McLaren so far this year have really come into their

1907
01:38:50,147 --> 01:38:52,867
Speaker 19: four And at the moment, I think it's quite interesting

1908
01:38:52,907 --> 01:38:55,907
Speaker 19: watching how Norris and Pastry are not, you know, they're

1909
01:38:55,947 --> 01:38:59,987
Speaker 19: not hunting each other off, you know, which I'm finding

1910
01:39:00,107 --> 01:39:03,227
Speaker 19: really interesting because normally at that level and history. Look

1911
01:39:03,267 --> 01:39:06,227
Speaker 19: at some of the battles between teammates and championship when

1912
01:39:07,787 --> 01:39:10,547
Speaker 19: Formula One teams, there's always argie bargi. There's always sort

1913
01:39:10,547 --> 01:39:13,707
Speaker 19: of just gonna punt each other off and drive into everything.

1914
01:39:13,907 --> 01:39:15,627
Speaker 19: And I think, I don't know how Zach Brown is

1915
01:39:15,667 --> 01:39:18,987
Speaker 19: doing it, but he's managing those two young guys extraordinarily well.

1916
01:39:19,587 --> 01:39:22,267
Speaker 19: And I think either one of those guys, well, they'll

1917
01:39:22,267 --> 01:39:25,267
Speaker 19: win the Manufacturer's Championship without without a doubt. This year

1918
01:39:25,707 --> 01:39:27,987
Speaker 19: be interesting to see who wins the Driver's Championship though.

1919
01:39:28,787 --> 01:39:31,827
Speaker 2: All right, a prediction from you both to finish. Liam

1920
01:39:31,907 --> 01:39:34,867
Speaker 2: Lawson starts fifteenth on the grid, Alex, I got to

1921
01:39:34,907 --> 01:39:37,227
Speaker 2: you first, what's a good finish and where do you

1922
01:39:37,347 --> 01:39:38,107
Speaker 2: think he'll finish?

1923
01:39:38,587 --> 01:39:41,627
Speaker 22: I think anything and from tenth upwards would be a

1924
01:39:41,627 --> 01:39:44,507
Speaker 22: great finish. I mean, I'll nail my cards for the

1925
01:39:44,547 --> 01:39:46,427
Speaker 22: master there and think with a better weather and a

1926
01:39:46,467 --> 01:39:49,227
Speaker 22: bit of a clever strategy, he'll get tenth, tenth.

1927
01:39:49,387 --> 01:39:50,747
Speaker 2: There You go? All right? Et for you?

1928
01:39:51,907 --> 01:39:52,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, pretty similar.

1929
01:39:52,747 --> 01:39:56,667
Speaker 19: I reckon ninth or tenth if they get the strategy

1930
01:39:56,787 --> 01:40:00,787
Speaker 19: right for him, because sometimes racing bills haven't quite got

1931
01:40:00,827 --> 01:40:02,827
Speaker 19: the strategy right with Liam you know, they've rolled the

1932
01:40:02,867 --> 01:40:05,387
Speaker 19: dice a couple of times in it and it hasn't worked.

1933
01:40:05,507 --> 01:40:10,027
Speaker 19: So I hope hopefully if the weather plays into the

1934
01:40:10,107 --> 01:40:12,827
Speaker 19: strategy and they roll the dice and you know double

1935
01:40:12,867 --> 01:40:15,067
Speaker 19: six comes up, I reckon he could easily get into

1936
01:40:15,067 --> 01:40:15,467
Speaker 19: the points.

1937
01:40:16,147 --> 01:40:18,107
Speaker 2: All right, A friendly time to watch the race. I

1938
01:40:18,107 --> 01:40:19,987
Speaker 2: think about eight o'clock tomorrow morning it gets under waste,

1939
01:40:19,987 --> 01:40:23,107
Speaker 2: so breakfast time formula one. Eric Thompson, Alex Powell, thank

1940
01:40:23,107 --> 01:40:25,107
Speaker 2: you so much for both or both of you for

1941
01:40:25,187 --> 01:40:27,187
Speaker 2: joining us and lending us your expertise.

1942
01:40:28,067 --> 01:40:29,267
Speaker 19: Cheers bo boys A please your pony.

1943
01:40:29,667 --> 01:40:31,947
Speaker 2: Good on you guys. Eric Thompson and Alex Powell read

1944
01:40:31,987 --> 01:40:35,267
Speaker 2: them both at inzidherld dot co dot NZ. It is

1945
01:40:35,347 --> 01:40:38,387
Speaker 2: two twenty four year racetime. Eight o'clock tomorrow morning is

1946
01:40:38,427 --> 01:40:40,987
Speaker 2: when they'll go, Liam Lawson, we'll start from fifteenth on

1947
01:40:41,067 --> 01:40:42,907
Speaker 2: the grid and' sap we can make our way through

1948
01:40:42,907 --> 01:40:44,347
Speaker 2: the field. Let's say for a bit of rain from

1949
01:40:44,347 --> 01:40:46,507
Speaker 2: what the boys for saying, that might help them, and

1950
01:40:46,907 --> 01:40:49,107
Speaker 2: who knows those first points might be in the offing

1951
01:40:49,507 --> 01:40:52,787
Speaker 2: in Miami tomorrow morning around breakfast time New Zealand time

1952
01:40:53,227 --> 01:40:54,827
Speaker 2: to twenty four Let's take a break then with a

1953
01:40:54,987 --> 01:40:57,987
Speaker 2: head off to the UK. The World Snooker Championship is on.

1954
01:40:58,827 --> 01:41:01,667
Speaker 2: One game to go, one match to go the final?

1955
01:41:01,987 --> 01:41:03,747
Speaker 2: How's it going to shape up? We'll get you across

1956
01:41:03,787 --> 01:41:04,827
Speaker 2: to the UK right after this.

1957
01:41:06,427 --> 01:41:09,227
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred

1958
01:41:09,227 --> 01:41:14,067
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason him and GJ. Gardnerholmes,

1959
01:41:14,227 --> 01:41:16,987
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Talks B.

1960
01:41:17,787 --> 01:41:19,987
Speaker 2: Two twenty seven on News Talks AB and Weekend Sport

1961
01:41:20,027 --> 01:41:22,907
Speaker 2: before three will get you to Dunedin where this afternoon

1962
01:41:23,027 --> 01:41:26,347
Speaker 2: Round twelve of Super Abi Pacific has its conclusion. Pretty

1963
01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:30,867
Speaker 2: important match Highlanders against Mowana pacifica a rare Sunday afternoon game.

1964
01:41:31,187 --> 01:41:33,427
Speaker 2: Paul Allison, Paul Miller and Mark Ramby have to call

1965
01:41:33,547 --> 01:41:36,667
Speaker 2: for you from three thirty five on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio.

1966
01:41:36,707 --> 01:41:39,507
Speaker 2: We'll preview it with Paul Allison before three o'clock. But

1967
01:41:40,067 --> 01:41:43,067
Speaker 2: to the UK where we've got our finalists at the

1968
01:41:43,147 --> 01:41:47,947
Speaker 2: World Snooker Championship. Welshman and three time former champion Mark

1969
01:41:47,987 --> 01:41:51,827
Speaker 2: Williams and twenty nineteen champion and world number one Englishman

1970
01:41:51,987 --> 01:41:55,907
Speaker 2: Judd Trump played out an epic semi final this morning,

1971
01:41:56,267 --> 01:41:59,827
Speaker 2: with Williams eventually winning seventeen frames to fourteen. Because many

1972
01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,427
Speaker 2: photographs as your wanders all.

1973
01:42:06,747 --> 01:42:14,107
Speaker 4: Another, Sam said, remarkable, he would be tearing on top

1974
01:42:14,147 --> 01:42:14,667
Speaker 4: of the world.

1975
01:42:22,707 --> 01:42:27,587
Speaker 13: Us Jeff to see judge conduct the lection Mike Williams

1976
01:42:28,067 --> 01:42:31,587
Speaker 13: because he was just bostanding the world number one.

1977
01:42:31,707 --> 01:42:32,947
Speaker 16: Couldn't do much about this.

1978
01:42:34,387 --> 01:42:38,947
Speaker 2: We have to play Mike Williams, as Robert manstin. There

1979
01:42:38,947 --> 01:42:41,427
Speaker 2: you go, Mark Williams into the final where he will

1980
01:42:41,467 --> 01:42:46,187
Speaker 2: face Chinese player Jao Hintong after he beat Ronnie O'Sullivan

1981
01:42:46,387 --> 01:42:50,467
Speaker 2: seventeen frames to seven with a session to spare in

1982
01:42:50,587 --> 01:42:52,907
Speaker 2: their semi final. Let's welcome back to news Talks Ed B.

1983
01:42:53,427 --> 01:42:57,827
Speaker 2: Michael Day, chief snooker writer for Totally Snooker. Michael, thanks

1984
01:42:57,867 --> 01:42:59,867
Speaker 2: for joining us for a second weekend in a row.

1985
01:43:00,147 --> 01:43:03,787
Speaker 2: Let's start with the semifinal between Williams and Trump. Tell

1986
01:43:03,867 --> 01:43:06,947
Speaker 2: us about the swings and the roundabouts of what looked

1987
01:43:07,027 --> 01:43:09,747
Speaker 2: like an epic semi final between these two.

1988
01:43:10,627 --> 01:43:12,387
Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks for having me back on Jason. Yeah, it

1989
01:43:12,467 --> 01:43:13,987
Speaker 15: was quite a remarkable semifinal.

1990
01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:14,307
Speaker 11: Really.

1991
01:43:15,587 --> 01:43:18,707
Speaker 15: Going into the match, Trump hold a quite a significant

1992
01:43:18,827 --> 01:43:22,947
Speaker 15: headshead advantage over Williams from their previous encounters, and Trump

1993
01:43:22,987 --> 01:43:25,787
Speaker 15: earlier on in the season beat Williams ten nine on

1994
01:43:25,827 --> 01:43:28,107
Speaker 15: the final black in the Saudi Arabia Masters Final, so

1995
01:43:28,107 --> 01:43:30,667
Speaker 15: there's quite a bit of history between the two. Judd

1996
01:43:30,707 --> 01:43:32,547
Speaker 15: took an early lead in the match. He won the

1997
01:43:32,587 --> 01:43:35,667
Speaker 15: first session five to three, extended lead to seventh three,

1998
01:43:35,787 --> 01:43:38,707
Speaker 15: so had a four frame buffer. But then Williams was

1999
01:43:38,707 --> 01:43:41,027
Speaker 15: really strong in the second. The back end of the

2000
01:43:41,067 --> 01:43:43,627
Speaker 15: second session he won five at the last six frames

2001
01:43:43,627 --> 01:43:45,507
Speaker 15: to the level up at eight all. He then took

2002
01:43:45,547 --> 01:43:48,667
Speaker 15: an advantage in the third session. He ended the session

2003
01:43:48,787 --> 01:43:51,587
Speaker 15: I think it was thirteen eleven up, managed to then

2004
01:43:51,667 --> 01:43:55,667
Speaker 15: extend that buffer to fifteen eleven, got it to sixteen twelve.

2005
01:43:55,787 --> 01:43:57,307
Speaker 15: She was on the hill and a little bit of

2006
01:43:57,347 --> 01:44:00,787
Speaker 15: a blip. Trump come back he won two frames, but

2007
01:44:01,187 --> 01:44:03,907
Speaker 15: Williams finished in style with a break of one hundred

2008
01:44:03,907 --> 01:44:06,627
Speaker 15: and twenty three to win seventeen fourteen. And it really

2009
01:44:06,707 --> 01:44:07,667
Speaker 15: was a fantastic match.

2010
01:44:07,947 --> 01:44:12,267
Speaker 2: Tell us about Williams fifty years old now, so hope

2011
01:44:12,267 --> 01:44:16,587
Speaker 2: for us older guard Michael not putting you onto their

2012
01:44:16,627 --> 01:44:20,187
Speaker 2: brecket of course, but I mean that's quite old, isn't it.

2013
01:44:20,987 --> 01:44:23,107
Speaker 2: For a world Championship finalist.

2014
01:44:24,467 --> 01:44:28,267
Speaker 15: He is the oldest crucible finist of all time, so

2015
01:44:28,307 --> 01:44:31,587
Speaker 15: he's already made history. Of course, if he was to

2016
01:44:31,667 --> 01:44:34,067
Speaker 15: win the event, he would be the oldest world champion

2017
01:44:34,107 --> 01:44:37,747
Speaker 15: of all time. Currently Ronnie O'Sullivan holds that record. Ronnie

2018
01:44:38,307 --> 01:44:40,267
Speaker 15: was forty six I think when he won the tournament

2019
01:44:40,307 --> 01:44:42,627
Speaker 15: in twenty twenty two, three years ago. So Williams would

2020
01:44:42,627 --> 01:44:45,267
Speaker 15: completely smash that record. If he was to win the

2021
01:44:45,307 --> 01:44:48,147
Speaker 15: final as well, he'd be the oldest ranking event champion

2022
01:44:48,547 --> 01:44:52,787
Speaker 15: in professional snuker history as well. And it's a few

2023
01:44:52,827 --> 01:44:56,427
Speaker 15: sort of poetic examples for the final. I mean, if

2024
01:44:56,427 --> 01:44:58,987
Speaker 15: Williams was to become the oldest ranking event champion, he

2025
01:44:59,027 --> 01:45:02,467
Speaker 15: would overtake Ray Riardon's records, so obviously a fellow Welshman

2026
01:45:02,467 --> 01:45:04,907
Speaker 15: who passed away several months ago. So if Williams was

2027
01:45:04,987 --> 01:45:08,587
Speaker 15: to beat all these records, you know, it does seem

2028
01:45:08,707 --> 01:45:10,707
Speaker 15: very apt that he sort of does this now. But

2029
01:45:11,347 --> 01:45:14,507
Speaker 15: Williams is a bit like a fine wine really. He's

2030
01:45:14,547 --> 01:45:16,587
Speaker 15: already come into the event as the world number six,

2031
01:45:17,067 --> 01:45:18,987
Speaker 15: so he's right at the top echelons of the sports

2032
01:45:18,987 --> 01:45:21,387
Speaker 15: still and he's just going to go even further. Reaching

2033
01:45:21,427 --> 01:45:22,827
Speaker 15: the final regardless of what happens.

2034
01:45:23,147 --> 01:45:26,027
Speaker 2: Did I read a piece you write that talked about

2035
01:45:26,307 --> 01:45:32,187
Speaker 2: his ongoing concerns with eyesight issues. He's clearly overcome those.

2036
01:45:33,747 --> 01:45:36,987
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very bizarre because coming into the event, nobody

2037
01:45:37,147 --> 01:45:40,027
Speaker 15: was talking about Mark sort of being a contender for

2038
01:45:40,147 --> 01:45:43,107
Speaker 15: the title. The event before the World Championship was a

2039
01:45:43,147 --> 01:45:45,987
Speaker 15: Tour Championship. He lost first round ten to three to

2040
01:45:46,067 --> 01:45:49,387
Speaker 15: Dingen WII, and he'd been talking about is sight issue,

2041
01:45:49,507 --> 01:45:52,107
Speaker 15: saying that he'd been seen like four balls at a time,

2042
01:45:52,227 --> 01:45:55,507
Speaker 15: sort of bird vision, And he actually said that, you know,

2043
01:45:55,627 --> 01:45:58,347
Speaker 15: whoever qualified with the crucill will be hoping to draw

2044
01:45:58,467 --> 01:46:01,947
Speaker 15: him in the first round. So I don't doubt that

2045
01:46:01,987 --> 01:46:04,947
Speaker 15: he's got ies sight issues, but perhaps there's an element

2046
01:46:04,987 --> 01:46:08,507
Speaker 15: of kidology in that. I mean, you know, he's certainly

2047
01:46:08,547 --> 01:46:10,627
Speaker 15: blamed very well for someone who's seen four balls at

2048
01:46:10,667 --> 01:46:15,267
Speaker 15: a time exce. Actually, I understand that he's got an

2049
01:46:15,267 --> 01:46:18,587
Speaker 15: appointment in June to talk about like laser eye surgery,

2050
01:46:19,427 --> 01:46:22,067
Speaker 15: and in his postmatch interview tonight, he's been talking about

2051
01:46:22,067 --> 01:46:23,947
Speaker 15: whether or not to cancel that because he doesn't seem

2052
01:46:23,947 --> 01:46:27,067
Speaker 15: to be doing too badly as it is, So we'll.

2053
01:46:26,787 --> 01:46:28,747
Speaker 2: See what happens. To with the summer, all right, So

2054
01:46:28,867 --> 01:46:31,987
Speaker 2: he's into the final Mark Williams and he will face

2055
01:46:32,347 --> 01:46:36,987
Speaker 2: Jiao Shintong, who beat Ronnie O'Sullivan seventeen to seven with

2056
01:46:37,267 --> 01:46:40,027
Speaker 2: a session to spare in the first seam. He want

2057
01:46:40,067 --> 01:46:42,387
Speaker 2: to talk a bit about Ronnie O'Sullivan in a moment,

2058
01:46:42,467 --> 01:46:44,827
Speaker 2: but Jao shin Tong tell us a bit about him.

2059
01:46:46,587 --> 01:46:50,667
Speaker 15: Incredible story. Incredible story. Now, now, Jiao was he's been

2060
01:46:50,747 --> 01:46:54,187
Speaker 15: around for several years. He's been part of this convey

2061
01:46:54,267 --> 01:46:58,787
Speaker 15: about of young Chinese talent. He actually his big breakthrough

2062
01:46:59,467 --> 01:47:02,467
Speaker 15: was winning the UK Championship in twenty twenty one. He

2063
01:47:02,547 --> 01:47:05,227
Speaker 15: beat Luca Brissell in the final. He then won a

2064
01:47:05,307 --> 01:47:08,867
Speaker 15: ranking events soon after that. UK Championship is the second

2065
01:47:08,867 --> 01:47:10,627
Speaker 15: biggest event on the circuit by the way, so that

2066
01:47:10,707 --> 01:47:12,387
Speaker 15: was a really big tour for him to win. But

2067
01:47:12,547 --> 01:47:15,907
Speaker 15: he was part of the match fixing scandal that rocked

2068
01:47:15,907 --> 01:47:19,267
Speaker 15: the sport back in twenty twenty three. Didn't actually fix

2069
01:47:19,347 --> 01:47:22,227
Speaker 15: matches in south but he was involved with players who did.

2070
01:47:23,027 --> 01:47:26,227
Speaker 15: So he served the ban, a two year ban through

2071
01:47:26,307 --> 01:47:30,907
Speaker 15: sort of like sort of like guilty admission and early

2072
01:47:31,027 --> 01:47:33,187
Speaker 15: please and things like that. So he's actually come back

2073
01:47:33,227 --> 01:47:36,427
Speaker 15: to the circuit. Back in September, he played on the

2074
01:47:36,427 --> 01:47:39,547
Speaker 15: Amateur Tour. He's won his tour card back, but that

2075
01:47:39,547 --> 01:47:42,867
Speaker 15: actually doesn't activate until next season, so he's actually competing

2076
01:47:42,907 --> 01:47:45,347
Speaker 15: in this event as an invited amateur, which is quite

2077
01:47:45,387 --> 01:47:48,427
Speaker 15: remarkable to think that someone without a TORK card can

2078
01:47:48,467 --> 01:47:51,347
Speaker 15: get to the final, but quite incredible story. He's actually

2079
01:47:51,347 --> 01:47:53,587
Speaker 15: coming through the very first qualifying round, so even before

2080
01:47:53,627 --> 01:47:56,307
Speaker 15: the TV cameras at the Crucibil, he's won four qualifiers

2081
01:47:57,267 --> 01:47:59,827
Speaker 15: and to be honest, he's been comfortable in pretty much

2082
01:47:59,827 --> 01:48:04,467
Speaker 15: all his games, even against Ronnie. Incredible story. Only the

2083
01:48:04,547 --> 01:48:07,947
Speaker 15: second Chinese player ever to reach the final, and he's

2084
01:48:07,987 --> 01:48:10,027
Speaker 15: got every chance of lifting the trophy over the next

2085
01:48:10,027 --> 01:48:10,627
Speaker 15: couple of days.

2086
01:48:11,067 --> 01:48:13,707
Speaker 2: I was watching a large part of the semi final

2087
01:48:13,747 --> 01:48:17,267
Speaker 2: against Rodnego, O'Sullivan and Jaoshin Tong. It sounds like a

2088
01:48:17,307 --> 01:48:19,467
Speaker 2: silly thing to say, Michael, but he's just such a

2089
01:48:19,587 --> 01:48:21,747
Speaker 2: lovely player to watch, isn't he. Just the way he

2090
01:48:21,947 --> 01:48:25,987
Speaker 2: moves around the table, the way he plays as has shot.

2091
01:48:26,107 --> 01:48:30,067
Speaker 2: He's a really quite esthetically pleasing snooker player, isn't he?

2092
01:48:31,267 --> 01:48:31,307
Speaker 9: He?

2093
01:48:31,867 --> 01:48:32,347
Speaker 20: Certainly is.

2094
01:48:32,707 --> 01:48:35,707
Speaker 15: He definitely falls in the bracket of a naturally gifted player.

2095
01:48:36,427 --> 01:48:39,427
Speaker 15: He makes the game look so simple. He's a fairly

2096
01:48:39,467 --> 01:48:42,627
Speaker 15: sort of pacy player as well. He plays aggressive shots,

2097
01:48:42,707 --> 01:48:45,227
Speaker 15: so it's very you know, I pleasing for the fans.

2098
01:48:45,387 --> 01:48:48,707
Speaker 15: And of course there is this backstory that he has

2099
01:48:48,787 --> 01:48:50,907
Speaker 15: been banned, but I think a lot of fans are

2100
01:48:50,987 --> 01:48:53,707
Speaker 15: very happy to see him back, you know and performing.

2101
01:48:53,787 --> 01:48:55,547
Speaker 15: This is what we've been hoped to, you know, hoping

2102
01:48:55,707 --> 01:48:58,107
Speaker 15: several years ago when he burst onto the scene. And

2103
01:48:58,227 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 15: this is only the third time he's been at the Crucible.

2104
01:49:00,827 --> 01:49:03,387
Speaker 15: He'd only won one match out here for I think

2105
01:49:03,507 --> 01:49:06,987
Speaker 15: was back in twenty twenty two. So incredible run and

2106
01:49:07,107 --> 01:49:11,067
Speaker 15: as you say, he really is a fantastic player to watch.

2107
01:49:11,707 --> 01:49:15,867
Speaker 2: A lot of talk about Ronnie O'Sullivan and his I

2108
01:49:15,947 --> 01:49:18,987
Speaker 2: guess you'd call it a capitulation in this semi final,

2109
01:49:19,067 --> 01:49:21,387
Speaker 2: but he changed parts.

2110
01:49:21,107 --> 01:49:21,587
Speaker 11: Of us Q.

2111
01:49:21,947 --> 01:49:23,787
Speaker 2: Can you tell us about this, Michael.

2112
01:49:25,227 --> 01:49:28,147
Speaker 15: Yeah, remarkable story, but it's kind of part of the course.

2113
01:49:28,187 --> 01:49:31,347
Speaker 15: With Ronnie obviously coming to the event. He not played

2114
01:49:31,387 --> 01:49:36,147
Speaker 15: for three months a tournament start of January, the Championship League.

2115
01:49:36,187 --> 01:49:40,067
Speaker 15: He deliberately smashed this cup in frustration and left the

2116
01:49:40,107 --> 01:49:42,867
Speaker 15: event with one match still to play. She's not played

2117
01:49:42,907 --> 01:49:44,987
Speaker 15: on a circus since then come back to the World

2118
01:49:45,067 --> 01:49:48,867
Speaker 15: Championship using a new queue, so a completely different brand

2119
01:49:48,947 --> 01:49:51,187
Speaker 15: to what he was using before. He was using the

2120
01:49:51,307 --> 01:49:54,947
Speaker 15: titanium Farrell. So titanium is quite a new sort of

2121
01:49:54,987 --> 01:49:56,747
Speaker 15: thing for snooker players that we're seeing a lot of

2122
01:49:56,747 --> 01:49:59,827
Speaker 15: the top professionals turning over to it. It's a very

2123
01:49:59,907 --> 01:50:04,027
Speaker 15: different material to brass, which is what the Farrells are

2124
01:50:04,067 --> 01:50:06,867
Speaker 15: traditionally made of in terms of snooker ques. So Ronnie

2125
01:50:06,867 --> 01:50:09,187
Speaker 15: had been using that throughout the tournament and Ronnie did

2126
01:50:09,227 --> 01:50:11,667
Speaker 15: get to the semifinals. He played some good stuff in

2127
01:50:11,747 --> 01:50:14,347
Speaker 15: the balls, but he never really looked comfortable his long game.

2128
01:50:14,667 --> 01:50:18,627
Speaker 15: His pubil wasn't Ronnie o soulo an esque. And after

2129
01:50:18,747 --> 01:50:21,267
Speaker 15: the first session of his semi final with Joo, he

2130
01:50:21,347 --> 01:50:24,427
Speaker 15: took a really sort of drastic action and went to

2131
01:50:24,507 --> 01:50:28,307
Speaker 15: visit a Q doctor in Sheffield to change the ferul

2132
01:50:28,347 --> 01:50:31,547
Speaker 15: from titanium to brass, which I know a lot of

2133
01:50:31,587 --> 01:50:35,067
Speaker 15: professionals I know, Neil Robertson was one who he posted

2134
01:50:35,147 --> 01:50:38,787
Speaker 15: on social media today saying what a crazy decision that was,

2135
01:50:39,787 --> 01:50:41,547
Speaker 15: and he just sort of come and glued n'tee in

2136
01:50:41,587 --> 01:50:44,907
Speaker 15: the second sessions out played fantastic. Ronnie struggled and it

2137
01:50:44,947 --> 01:50:47,467
Speaker 15: was kind of a perfect storm and really that was

2138
01:50:47,547 --> 01:50:49,947
Speaker 15: the session that did the damage and it was too

2139
01:50:50,027 --> 01:50:52,347
Speaker 15: big of a mountain to climb for him to beat Shoo.

2140
01:50:52,907 --> 01:50:55,667
Speaker 2: What does the future hold in for Ronnie O'Sullivan? Is

2141
01:50:55,707 --> 01:50:56,907
Speaker 2: there any way to predict that?

2142
01:50:57,147 --> 01:51:01,507
Speaker 15: Michael's you could with Ronnie?

2143
01:51:01,507 --> 01:51:02,307
Speaker 2: You just don't know.

2144
01:51:02,347 --> 01:51:04,427
Speaker 15: I mean, all bets are off the table with Ronnie,

2145
01:51:05,027 --> 01:51:07,627
Speaker 15: he did say. I mean he was very gracious when

2146
01:51:07,667 --> 01:51:09,947
Speaker 15: he lost the match. I know he's very fond of

2147
01:51:10,027 --> 01:51:13,427
Speaker 15: show and I believe they practiced together. He did say

2148
01:51:13,587 --> 01:51:16,107
Speaker 15: afterwards that he'll be back, he'll be stronger next season.

2149
01:51:18,307 --> 01:51:21,947
Speaker 15: Ronnie loves snooker. I know all the things and rhetoric

2150
01:51:21,987 --> 01:51:25,507
Speaker 15: and everything he says, Ronnie loves snooker. It will be

2151
01:51:25,547 --> 01:51:27,547
Speaker 15: a big disappointing to him not winning an eighth to

2152
01:51:27,587 --> 01:51:30,307
Speaker 15: world time because it's the only box he you know,

2153
01:51:30,507 --> 01:51:33,227
Speaker 15: really would love to tick still and he's done everything

2154
01:51:33,267 --> 01:51:35,667
Speaker 15: else in the sport. I think he'll be back, but

2155
01:51:36,147 --> 01:51:37,947
Speaker 15: it's just going to get tougher and tougher for him

2156
01:51:37,987 --> 01:51:42,027
Speaker 15: because you've got new players coming through. Ronnie throughout the

2157
01:51:42,107 --> 01:51:44,427
Speaker 15: tournament was really sort of down be about this game.

2158
01:51:45,187 --> 01:51:49,067
Speaker 15: His performance is saying he just doesn't feel great. And

2159
01:51:49,387 --> 01:51:51,467
Speaker 15: you know, Ronnie does need to feel confident in this

2160
01:51:51,587 --> 01:51:52,867
Speaker 15: game because he's a perfectionist.

2161
01:51:53,787 --> 01:51:54,307
Speaker 20: He'll come back.

2162
01:51:54,347 --> 01:51:57,627
Speaker 15: We see what I mean. Last season, Ronnie won five tournaments.

2163
01:51:58,107 --> 01:52:00,267
Speaker 15: This season he hasn't even got to one final. So

2164
01:52:00,667 --> 01:52:03,147
Speaker 15: you know, Ronnie's career is full of ups and downs.

2165
01:52:03,187 --> 01:52:05,547
Speaker 15: But we'll see Ronnie back, and it wouldn't be a

2166
01:52:05,587 --> 01:52:08,267
Speaker 15: surprise if we see him lifting the biggest trophies in

2167
01:52:08,307 --> 01:52:08,947
Speaker 15: the sport again.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's finish with the final. Jaochintong against Mark Williams.

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01:52:13,747 --> 01:52:15,947
Speaker 2: What's your prediction about how this might play out.

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Speaker 15: I think this is fascinating. It's the first ever actually

2171
01:52:20,187 --> 01:52:23,307
Speaker 15: crucible final with two left handers, so there's a little

2172
01:52:23,307 --> 01:52:25,787
Speaker 15: bit of history there as well. For me, it's a

2173
01:52:25,867 --> 01:52:29,107
Speaker 15: coin flip, it really is. I think. Obviously you've got

2174
01:52:29,107 --> 01:52:32,867
Speaker 15: the youth of Jaosing Tong, first ever final, Mark Williams

2175
01:52:33,027 --> 01:52:37,107
Speaker 15: experience fifty years old, its fifth final. For me, the

2176
01:52:37,227 --> 01:52:41,147
Speaker 15: early session will be very very interesting Day one. Jaosing

2177
01:52:41,187 --> 01:52:44,427
Speaker 15: Tong has come through the tournament pretty much without much

2178
01:52:44,507 --> 01:52:46,267
Speaker 15: pressure at all. I mean this first round gave me

2179
01:52:46,307 --> 01:52:49,227
Speaker 15: one ten to four thirteen ten to thirteen to five,

2180
01:52:49,307 --> 01:52:51,587
Speaker 15: and he beat Ronnie or seven with a session to spare,

2181
01:52:51,707 --> 01:52:55,547
Speaker 15: so he's come through really sort of comfortably. Whereas Mark Williams,

2182
01:52:55,747 --> 01:52:58,027
Speaker 15: he was in the quarter finals against joh Niggins. He

2183
01:52:58,107 --> 01:53:01,147
Speaker 15: was one ball away from defeat. Let's not forget deciding

2184
01:53:01,187 --> 01:53:03,947
Speaker 15: framing John Higgins Rattle with the blue so Mark Williams

2185
01:53:03,947 --> 01:53:06,667
Speaker 15: could have been at home days ago. So I think

2186
01:53:07,147 --> 01:53:09,787
Speaker 15: for Joo the test will be if he goes a

2187
01:53:09,867 --> 01:53:13,267
Speaker 15: few frames behind to Mark Williams. If he does, the

2188
01:53:13,347 --> 01:53:15,507
Speaker 15: pressure may be too much and Mark Williams maybe too

2189
01:53:15,627 --> 01:53:19,507
Speaker 15: wily to let him back in the game. I think

2190
01:53:19,587 --> 01:53:22,627
Speaker 15: the first d is really important. They play seventeen frames.

2191
01:53:23,147 --> 01:53:25,667
Speaker 15: I think Joo needs to be in front personally from

2192
01:53:26,147 --> 01:53:28,827
Speaker 15: win match. But I've just got a feeling Williams is

2193
01:53:28,867 --> 01:53:31,347
Speaker 15: going to do it. I think his name's on the trophy.

2194
01:53:32,107 --> 01:53:34,147
Speaker 15: What we've seen throughout the tournament, He's been in really

2195
01:53:34,187 --> 01:53:37,987
Speaker 15: close matches. But as I say, it is a coin flip,

2196
01:53:38,147 --> 01:53:40,267
Speaker 15: and I just hope it goes all the way seventeen

2197
01:53:40,427 --> 01:53:43,827
Speaker 15: or and we have an absolute twitch fest and the decider.

2198
01:53:43,587 --> 01:53:46,107
Speaker 2: Absolutely a fast and adding final and prospect well on

2199
01:53:46,187 --> 01:53:48,147
Speaker 2: behalf of everybody in their fifties. I would like to

2200
01:53:48,187 --> 01:53:51,387
Speaker 2: say that I'm behind the Welshman Mark Williams, but I

2201
01:53:51,467 --> 01:53:54,107
Speaker 2: just can't wait to see how it all plays out. Michael.

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01:53:54,147 --> 01:53:56,427
Speaker 2: Great to get your expertise. Thanks so much for joining

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01:53:56,507 --> 01:53:58,507
Speaker 2: us across New Zealand. We'll look forward to a fast

2204
01:53:58,547 --> 01:53:59,507
Speaker 2: and adding finally ahead.

2205
01:53:59,907 --> 01:54:01,307
Speaker 15: Thank you Jason, it's been a pleasure.

2206
01:54:01,627 --> 01:54:03,267
Speaker 2: Been great to have you on, Michael. Thanks. Indeed there

2207
01:54:03,307 --> 01:54:07,267
Speaker 2: is Michael Day, chief snooker writer for Total Snookered. So

2208
01:54:07,467 --> 01:54:11,267
Speaker 2: our twenty twenty five World Snooker Championship final Welshman three

2209
01:54:11,307 --> 01:54:17,907
Speaker 2: time former champion Mark Williams and Chinese player Jao Shintong

2210
01:54:18,067 --> 01:54:20,907
Speaker 2: best of thirty five frames, so over a couple of days.

2211
01:54:21,307 --> 01:54:25,307
Speaker 2: It starts tonight, New Zealand time coming up nineteen away

2212
01:54:25,387 --> 01:54:29,987
Speaker 2: from three. We've got the rare site of Sunday afternoon

2213
01:54:30,147 --> 01:54:34,107
Speaker 2: Super Rugby today, the Highlanders up against Mowana Pacifica at

2214
01:54:34,187 --> 01:54:37,267
Speaker 2: Forsyth Bar Stadium in Dunedin. A three point thirty five

2215
01:54:37,347 --> 01:54:39,147
Speaker 2: kickoff on that one. You can air four commentary on

2216
01:54:39,307 --> 01:54:42,507
Speaker 2: Gold Sport and iHeartRadio with Paul Allison, Paul Miller and

2217
01:54:42,707 --> 01:54:45,587
Speaker 2: Mark Ranby will get you to Dunedin shortly. Is this

2218
01:54:45,667 --> 01:54:49,987
Speaker 2: a bit of a lance last chance saloon situation in

2219
01:54:50,107 --> 01:54:52,387
Speaker 2: particular for the Highlanders, who, if they are going to

2220
01:54:52,427 --> 01:54:54,187
Speaker 2: be in the top six, really need to get a

2221
01:54:54,267 --> 01:54:58,467
Speaker 2: riggle on seventeen points currently five points only outside the

2222
01:54:58,547 --> 01:55:01,307
Speaker 2: top six, but only the three wins in their ten

2223
01:55:01,387 --> 01:55:05,227
Speaker 2: matches so far, Maea Pacifica a place ahead and knowing

2224
01:55:05,787 --> 01:55:08,267
Speaker 2: that if they win this afternoon they will jump ahead

2225
01:55:08,307 --> 01:55:11,347
Speaker 2: of the Blues and into the top six with three

2226
01:55:11,427 --> 01:55:15,907
Speaker 2: games to go. So an enthralling, enticing game and prospect

2227
01:55:16,387 --> 01:55:18,907
Speaker 2: will preview for you shortly here on Weekend Sport.

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01:55:19,667 --> 01:55:23,027
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport It with

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01:55:23,267 --> 01:55:26,947
Speaker 1: Jason Tyne and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's.

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Speaker 23: Most trusted home builder news Dogs NB two forty five

2231
01:55:30,507 --> 01:55:33,467
Speaker 23: fifty minutes away from kickoff between the Highlanders and Wana

2232
01:55:33,467 --> 01:55:36,227
Speaker 23: Pacifica under the roof at forsyde Bar Stadium and Dneed

2233
01:55:36,307 --> 01:55:38,627
Speaker 23: and Paul Allison, Paul Miller, Mark Ramby have the call

2234
01:55:38,707 --> 01:55:40,867
Speaker 23: for you on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio.

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01:55:41,027 --> 01:55:43,467
Speaker 2: Paul Allison's got to the ground early to have a

2236
01:55:43,587 --> 01:55:45,667
Speaker 2: chat to us. How big a game is this? First

2237
01:55:45,707 --> 01:55:48,147
Speaker 2: of all, Paul for the Highlanders as they try to

2238
01:55:48,627 --> 01:55:51,467
Speaker 2: cling on to what looked like increasingly slim hopes of

2239
01:55:51,547 --> 01:55:52,307
Speaker 2: making the six.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's pretty slim, isn't it. Piney Yah, good afternoon.

2241
01:55:55,867 --> 01:55:57,707
Speaker 12: I'm always here at this time. I'm having to escape

2242
01:55:57,747 --> 01:55:59,707
Speaker 12: central Otage to get rid of the duck shooting season

2243
01:56:00,147 --> 01:56:03,587
Speaker 12: that's in full flight down in the Deep South at

2244
01:56:03,627 --> 01:56:05,867
Speaker 12: the moment. Yeah, it's a really important game for the

2245
01:56:05,947 --> 01:56:08,187
Speaker 12: Highland on a number of fronts. Yes, to keep their

2246
01:56:08,747 --> 01:56:11,947
Speaker 12: slim slim playoff hopes alive, but also to get some

2247
01:56:12,027 --> 01:56:14,547
Speaker 12: confidence back in this side, which, as we know, they

2248
01:56:14,587 --> 01:56:17,827
Speaker 12: always scrap away. They started the season really really well,

2249
01:56:18,427 --> 01:56:20,627
Speaker 12: got that early loss to the Waratars, which I think

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01:56:20,747 --> 01:56:22,907
Speaker 12: didn't did their chance of somewhat of making the top six.

2251
01:56:22,947 --> 01:56:25,227
Speaker 12: When we look back on reflection, it was the last

2252
01:56:25,307 --> 01:56:27,507
Speaker 12: minute points that were scored by the Warratars that got

2253
01:56:27,547 --> 01:56:29,827
Speaker 12: them across across the line to win that one. And

2254
01:56:29,867 --> 01:56:32,107
Speaker 12: then the Highlanders came home and beat the Blues and

2255
01:56:32,147 --> 01:56:34,907
Speaker 12: then beat Moana Pasifica and could have beaten the Hurricanes.

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01:56:34,947 --> 01:56:36,627
Speaker 12: There was a bit of controversy in the last couple

2257
01:56:36,667 --> 01:56:38,187
Speaker 12: of minutes in that match as well, and they could

2258
01:56:38,187 --> 01:56:40,027
Speaker 12: have started I mean I know it's all about if,

2259
01:56:40,107 --> 01:56:42,427
Speaker 12: butts and maybes, but they could have started with four

2260
01:56:42,467 --> 01:56:44,227
Speaker 12: wins and if they had have done that with the

2261
01:56:44,307 --> 01:56:45,707
Speaker 12: side that they had, I.

2262
01:56:45,747 --> 01:56:47,307
Speaker 2: Think they would have said a really good platform.

2263
01:56:47,347 --> 01:56:49,387
Speaker 12: But then they suffered some injuries as well to some

2264
01:56:49,507 --> 01:56:52,547
Speaker 12: of their real key star attacking outside backs likes of

2265
01:56:52,867 --> 01:56:56,107
Speaker 12: Joan and Ariki, Caleb Tangatow, Finn Hurley. These guys have

2266
01:56:56,187 --> 01:56:57,667
Speaker 12: been on the bench in the last few weeks, so

2267
01:56:57,747 --> 01:57:00,067
Speaker 12: they've had to go deeper into the squad and some

2268
01:57:00,187 --> 01:57:02,627
Speaker 12: of the replacement players just don't have that same ex

2269
01:57:02,707 --> 01:57:04,907
Speaker 12: factor to finish off as what they've been in the past.

2270
01:57:04,987 --> 01:57:06,907
Speaker 12: And then they've lost one of their co captain early

2271
01:57:06,947 --> 01:57:08,947
Speaker 12: in the season. He's back today in Hugh Renton. So

2272
01:57:09,267 --> 01:57:11,947
Speaker 12: they don't have the depth of other teams in this competition,

2273
01:57:12,227 --> 01:57:14,227
Speaker 12: so they've had to scrap away. So it's important for

2274
01:57:14,307 --> 01:57:16,267
Speaker 12: them to get a win to get their confidence back

2275
01:57:16,307 --> 01:57:18,307
Speaker 12: and maybe just to keep their hopes alive. And then

2276
01:57:18,387 --> 01:57:21,427
Speaker 12: Mowana Pacifica, on the other hand, they've never actually beaten

2277
01:57:21,627 --> 01:57:23,747
Speaker 12: the Highlanders, They've beaten just about everybody else. They've beaten

2278
01:57:23,787 --> 01:57:26,267
Speaker 12: the Warratars, the Brumbies, the Reds, the Force, the Fiji

2279
01:57:26,387 --> 01:57:28,267
Speaker 12: and Drewer, the Hurricanes a couple of times and the

2280
01:57:28,307 --> 01:57:30,787
Speaker 12: Crusaders earlier this year. There's only a couple of teams

2281
01:57:30,827 --> 01:57:33,347
Speaker 12: in this whole competition they haven't beaten, which is the Blues,

2282
01:57:33,467 --> 01:57:35,627
Speaker 12: the Chiefs and the Highlanders, and they would dearly love

2283
01:57:35,707 --> 01:57:37,547
Speaker 12: to do that in what is going to be really

2284
01:57:37,587 --> 01:57:40,827
Speaker 12: sunny conditions under the roof here in Dunedin today, So

2285
01:57:41,707 --> 01:57:45,067
Speaker 12: it's a really interesting prospect. Mohana PACIFICA well, they've never

2286
01:57:45,107 --> 01:57:47,147
Speaker 12: made the playoffs in their history either. They've had four

2287
01:57:47,187 --> 01:57:50,507
Speaker 12: wins this year eleven in total in their fourth seasons

2288
01:57:50,547 --> 01:57:52,467
Speaker 12: that they've been playing Super Rugby, so this is by

2289
01:57:52,587 --> 01:57:54,947
Speaker 12: far and away their best of it. And you already

2290
01:57:55,147 --> 01:57:58,667
Speaker 12: see the fingerprints that Julian Savia along with Ardie Savia

2291
01:57:58,947 --> 01:58:00,627
Speaker 12: have had this year. But then they've bought in a

2292
01:58:00,747 --> 01:58:03,587
Speaker 12: couple of real stars like Sir Patrick Pallegrini who's just

2293
01:58:03,707 --> 01:58:06,107
Speaker 12: made a real impact although he's on the bench today.

2294
01:58:06,467 --> 01:58:09,747
Speaker 12: And also you look at someone likes of Kieren Tomoflau

2295
01:58:09,787 --> 01:58:11,587
Speaker 12: on the left wing, only twenty one years of age,

2296
01:58:11,627 --> 01:58:12,387
Speaker 12: so they've got some.

2297
01:58:12,427 --> 01:58:13,467
Speaker 2: Star power as well.

2298
01:58:13,747 --> 01:58:15,667
Speaker 12: But to answer your question, it's taken me a long time.

2299
01:58:15,827 --> 01:58:18,307
Speaker 12: It's a really important one for the Hardlers today all.

2300
01:58:18,267 --> 01:58:19,747
Speaker 2: Right, can ask you about a couple of players. One

2301
01:58:19,827 --> 01:58:22,067
Speaker 2: is Fabian Holland. There's been a lot of talk about

2302
01:58:22,107 --> 01:58:25,387
Speaker 2: this kid for a while locking the scrum for the Highlanders.

2303
01:58:25,387 --> 01:58:27,907
Speaker 2: He's played pretty much every match, in fact, started ten

2304
01:58:27,947 --> 01:58:30,347
Speaker 2: of the eleven and will again today. What have you

2305
01:58:30,387 --> 01:58:32,107
Speaker 2: made of his trajectory and do you think he'll be

2306
01:58:32,147 --> 01:58:33,227
Speaker 2: in All Black sometime soon?

2307
01:58:33,547 --> 01:58:35,387
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't think there's too much doubt if he

2308
01:58:35,427 --> 01:58:38,107
Speaker 12: can stay injury free. He's got all the trappings, all

2309
01:58:38,147 --> 01:58:41,187
Speaker 12: the skills and you know, all the pedigree to be

2310
01:58:41,267 --> 01:58:42,867
Speaker 12: able to do that. He's come to New Zealand at

2311
01:58:42,867 --> 01:58:46,027
Speaker 12: age sixteen just to play rugby from Holland went to

2312
01:58:46,387 --> 01:58:49,707
Speaker 12: christ Church Boys High and now he's played thirty games

2313
01:58:49,787 --> 01:58:51,667
Speaker 12: for the Hardlers at the tender age of twenty two.

2314
01:58:52,027 --> 01:58:53,507
Speaker 12: And I think he would have been locked out earlier

2315
01:58:53,587 --> 01:58:56,907
Speaker 12: if eligibility rules had have been able to see him

2316
01:58:56,947 --> 01:59:00,067
Speaker 12: in consideration for selection. So I don't think he's too

2317
01:59:00,147 --> 01:59:00,587
Speaker 12: far away.

2318
01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:01,787
Speaker 2: He's a really good worker.

2319
01:59:01,987 --> 01:59:03,827
Speaker 12: He made that All Black fifteen at the end of

2320
01:59:03,987 --> 01:59:06,667
Speaker 12: last year, made the New Zealand Under twenties back in

2321
01:59:06,747 --> 01:59:10,067
Speaker 12: twenty twenty one and he's been playing first class rugby

2322
01:59:10,107 --> 01:59:12,227
Speaker 12: and New Zealand since that time as well. So he

2323
01:59:12,747 --> 01:59:14,507
Speaker 12: is someone who I think we could see a lot

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Speaker 12: more of in the Black Jersey once he gets selected.

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Speaker 12: How far away is it, I'd say it's either this

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Speaker 12: year or next year.

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Speaker 2: All right. And the other one I want to ask

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Speaker 2: about is Timothy Tavatava Nawai, who's one of only two

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Speaker 2: players that I can find New Zealand based players who

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Speaker 2: started every single game of the season. Rico Yowani at

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Speaker 2: the Blues is the other one. He started mainly at

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Speaker 2: second five, although he has been shuffled out to the wing,

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Speaker 2: both wings. Actually on occasion, second five is his best position,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Look he's the sort of guy that can do things

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Speaker 12: on a rugby paddock that a lot of players can't.

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Speaker 12: And I remember speaking to Ben Smith at the end

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Speaker 12: of last year, who's one of the assistant coaches for

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Speaker 12: the Highlanders, and he said to me exactly that. He said,

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Speaker 12: he's the sort of guy that can do things that

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Speaker 12: other players can't, particularly at round the breakdown and the turnover.

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Speaker 12: He's got that low body position. He's very strong, he

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Speaker 12: busts the tackles, certainly in the Highlanders. I think his

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Speaker 12: best position is the number twelve and you're dead right.

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Speaker 12: He's been there every game this year, apart from the

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Speaker 12: Reds where he started on the left wing, and then

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Speaker 12: last week against the Crusaders where he's on the right wing.

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Speaker 12: And that's probably been a reflection also of the lack

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Speaker 12: of midfielders that the Harden has had. Because he is

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Speaker 12: a player, you get him into the action given the ball,

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Speaker 12: he is very very powerful, He's very very strong. He's

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Speaker 12: also very good out wide as well, so in an

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Speaker 12: all Black side. If you were looking to consider him

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Speaker 12: as a member of a squad somewhere, well, he'd have

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Speaker 12: to be a consideration for one of those bench players

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Speaker 12: that's got that versatility that can play midfield or outside backs.

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Speaker 12: I mean he's come down after playing for the Minor Pacificate.

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Speaker 12: He had twenty games for them and scored seven tries

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Speaker 12: and now he's made his home in the Deep South

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Speaker 12: and he's been given the responsibility of co captain this

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Speaker 12: year and with Hugh Renton out he's had to shoulder

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Speaker 12: most of that captaincy ability right throughout the season and

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Speaker 12: as you say, he's been out there for eighty minutes

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Speaker 12: in each game, and you just wonder whether or not

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Speaker 12: he's really looking forward to a break because the Hidlens

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Speaker 12: get one next week and they'll need one with what

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Speaker 12: they've got coming up in the final three weeks for them,

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Speaker 12: because they've got Hurricay Crusaders away and then the Chiefs

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Speaker 12: at home. Moana pacifica not much easier. They've got the

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Speaker 12: Blues at home and then the Chiefs and Hurricanes away,

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Speaker 12: So it's a very very difficult back end for both

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Speaker 12: of these two teams in Super Rugby Pacific.

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Speaker 2: All right, Paul, just to finish, how do you see

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Speaker 2: it playing out this afternoon? And when for a t

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Speaker 2: when for a try fairs? Are we forty five thirty

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Speaker 2: seven here or something like that?

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Speaker 12: Well, I look at the scores over the period of

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Speaker 12: time that these two teams have played each other. They've

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Speaker 12: played each other five times, and the lowest score the

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Speaker 12: Haardlers have had is twenty eight points and the Mowanna

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Speaker 12: Pacific has always had seventeen. So I reckon we might

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Speaker 12: be ahead of twenty eight and a head of seventeen,

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Speaker 12: So I'm going to go more than a fifty point

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Speaker 12: match in total scored here today. The conditions as we

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02:01:50,787 --> 02:01:52,867
Speaker 12: know are always great, but with the sun shining and

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02:01:52,947 --> 02:01:56,147
Speaker 12: it's a rare opportunity first time. First time this season

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Speaker 12: the Highlanders at home have had a new Zealand referee,

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Speaker 12: Paul Williams. I mean they've had to sort of adapt

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Speaker 12: to the Australian refs at home. Well, yeah, so that's

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Speaker 12: an interesting little stat. Now considering the be at home

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Speaker 12: for what is their sixth game.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope it is a fifty pointer plus. Fore

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Speaker 2: you to call, Paul, look forward to you and your

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Speaker 2: two co commentator's former all backs Porm Miller and Mark

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Speaker 2: Ramby bringing us the call. Thanks for joining us on

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Speaker 2: weekend sport call well this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Thanks baronet. You enjoy your weekend what's left of it

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02:02:23,827 --> 02:02:25,627
Speaker 12: and I'll send the duck up to you if you

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Speaker 12: need one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, don't make it a priority, Paul. Thanks mate.

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Speaker 2: Paul Ellison there your lead commentator on Goldsport and iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: three thirty five. This afternoon hear him alongside Paul Miller

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Speaker 2: and Mark Ramby as the Highlanders take on One in Pacifica,

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Speaker 2: the final match of Round twelve of Super Rugby Pacific

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Speaker 2: eight Away from three News Talks, heb.

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Speaker 1: The scoop from the track, fields and and the court

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Speaker 1: on your home of Sorts Weekend Sport with Jason vine.

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Speaker 2: Us Talks B five to three. Final word today comes

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Speaker 2: on email from Glenn Hi, Jason Luke Metcalf. Unfair to

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Speaker 2: single out anyone, but this was a performance where one

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Speaker 2: player to find the team's performance. They've gone from being

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Speaker 2: a hard watch to a must watch. And then there

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Speaker 2: was the crowd as near as a Premier League atmosphere

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Speaker 2: as you can get the scenes at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. What sport is all about. And no team

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Speaker 2: in the NRL has more passionate and devoted fans than

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. This is our year. Thanks indeed, Glenn good

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Speaker 2: way to finish the show. Thank you for listening in

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Thank you for contributing if that's what you

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Speaker 2: chose to do. Huge thanks to Annie McDonald for producing

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Speaker 2: the show. We are back tomorrow night on Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: to beverage with you after three o'clock with the Weekend

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Speaker 2: Collective taking us out today. Well, it's New Zealand Music Month,

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Speaker 2: so I get the felling Andy and I will choose

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Speaker 2: mainly New Zealand songs as our exit songs over the

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Speaker 2: month of May. That's certainly what I've done today. Shehad

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Speaker 2: is where I've landed for no real reason other than

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Speaker 2: I like the song a lot. It's called One will

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Speaker 2: Hear the Other. Hope you enjoyed the last minute or

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Speaker 2: so of it. We'll see tomorrow night five.

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Speaker 20: An out.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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