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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great New Zealand? It is the podcast

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Speaker 2: numbers are we are number eighty seven eighty seven for Friday,

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Speaker 2: the fourteenth of March twenty twenty five. So it's the

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Speaker 2: IDEs of March tomorrow. Well, what is the odds of March?

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Speaker 2: So IDEs means halfway through a month. So the IDEs

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Speaker 2: of March is famous for always be associated when Julius

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Speaker 2: Caesar was murdered, right, assassinated and murdered. I've got some

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Speaker 2: recommended reading for you. Please Setoniusconius Tranquilius, The Lives of

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Speaker 2: the Twelve Caesars. Yeah, there's a new translation out from

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Speaker 2: Tom Holland that I'm reading at the moment. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: you've got the Life of Caligula, Julius Caesar, you've got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other Tiberius twelve written in Hadrian's time,

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Speaker 2: so written in you know, eighty one fifty and it's

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Speaker 2: just got a brand new translation out from Tom Holland

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Speaker 2: from the Rest's History podcast looks good four out of

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Speaker 2: five by good Reads. Yes, well, not everyone's going to

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Speaker 2: love it because it was written, you know, nineteen hundred

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Speaker 2: years ago, so it's a bit challenging, and also it's

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Speaker 2: good reads. Yeah it's fast, it's fast. It gets through

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Speaker 2: the thing anyway, but that's another topic. Fantastic show today.

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Speaker 2: We invented new tune chumpers for charity dumpers. We for

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Speaker 2: some reason gave a whole hour of promotion for she

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Speaker 2: had a good band, I got out of hand a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and also had a great chat on PPP

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Speaker 2: and tolls and tolls and bridges. Yeah. So yeah, lots

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Speaker 2: of really really good calls today. So I hope you

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Speaker 2: enjoy the show. Set to download, subscribe, follow, do all

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Speaker 2: that stuff if you feel like it, and have a

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Speaker 2: fantastic weekend. Love you bye.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo X,

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Speaker 1: attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks, there'd.

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Speaker 3: Be good after noon. Welcome into the show Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Always feel good on a Friday. Get a Mardy diet

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Speaker 3: a Tyler Good everyone. This is a nice text.

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Speaker 2: A long time follow of Mett Heath, I've always thought

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Speaker 2: his cheeks look very soft and supple. I'll have to

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Speaker 2: try a beef tellow. So that soft looking cheeks, I've

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Speaker 2: got to say thank you, thank you as.

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Speaker 3: Supple as well, you know, because you want a bit

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Speaker 3: of elasticity and your cheeks.

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Speaker 2: It's healthy. These are facial cheeks we're talking about here. Listeners,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Yeah, but yeah, we've been men

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Speaker 2: and Tyler have been rubbing beef tellow on our faces.

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Speaker 2: Now it's the it's the new it's the new fad

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Speaker 2: for men's beauty.

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Speaker 3: Yep as rubbing beef tellow on your This is going

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Speaker 3: to be a regular afternoon session for us.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: We even got Jason Wolves, the political editor, and on it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how he felt about it. Now he's

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Speaker 3: got to go back to that investment Summit's smelling like

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Speaker 3: beef teller.

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Speaker 2: It smells beautiful beef teller, it does. And you know,

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Speaker 2: meteaters love you. I got so holy Cower sent me

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Speaker 2: some Tello skin barm from Carwa Kawa. What was that

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Speaker 2: other one we were talking about the other day. We

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Speaker 2: had a fantastic call from a mum who said her

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Speaker 2: daughter made some sweet New Zealand beef Tellow. I believe

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Speaker 2: it was nourishment by Nina, Nourishment by Nina. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it was nourishment by Nina. Nourish by Nina. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So wherever you are, whoever you are, get some beef

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Speaker 3: A lot of people in the Tellow game. It turns out, yeah,

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Speaker 3: very good and thank you. Right on to today's show

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock, as we always do on a Friday,

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Speaker 3: New Zealander of the Week, and we also play topical

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Speaker 3: tunes where Matt and I each bigger song related to

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Speaker 3: a theme of the week. First the three via Phone

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Speaker 3: takes it out, but we also want to ask the question.

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Speaker 2: What is the greatest New Zealand band of all time?

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Speaker 2: Because she hard of finishing up after thirty seven years

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Speaker 2: So they've got that huge sold out show. It's Bucketina

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Speaker 2: a fantastic show. But are they our greatest ever band

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's a great question, certainly right up there, but

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Speaker 3: that is after three o'clock. After two o'clock, we want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Our producer Andrew, he's come up the

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Speaker 2: name for them, chumpers. Yeah, they're charity dumpers. They're chumps.

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, and they're looking, let's get stuck into doing

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Speaker 2: some charity. It's Monday, let's get going. And there's a stinky, old,

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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of broken crockery and they've got

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Speaker 2: You're treating a charity store like a dump. Take it

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Speaker 3: about road tolling. It's on the back of this invest

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Speaker 3: who is the Minister of Infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: He went on to tall.

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Speaker 3: Attendees that the government was exploring tolling concessions to speed

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Speaker 2: So private public partnerships. When you go into a private

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Speaker 2: So you know, there's been a lot of talk about

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Speaker 2: tolls on them. So how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 2: Do you feel good? Would you? I mean? Or do

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Speaker 2: you think, Look, I already pay my taxes, already pay

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be leaning into the second column, I think,

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Speaker 3: And I'm someone hand up that I don't travel on

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Speaker 3: toll roads that often or at all, but I like

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Speaker 3: the idea of user pays that if you're using a

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Then that money is going directly into a road that

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Speaker 3: it. It just seems to be a fairer way to do it. Then,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're talking about this congestion charging situation that

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Speaker 3: seems messy and complex and unfair and a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: It's just easy. Yeah, I mean it used to be

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Speaker 2: called back in the days. And I was in Bangkok

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Speaker 2: not so long ago, and you're still throwing coin coins

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Speaker 2: So toll roads on as fun as they used to be,

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Speaker 2: it would just happen automatically. I guess you'll pay. We'll

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Speaker 2: pay either way. So either we pay by tolls or

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Speaker 2: and as you say specifically to the people that are

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Speaker 2: we end up paying anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think correct me if I'm wrong. But

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Speaker 3: how they do it with some of the tolls in

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Speaker 3: the North Island and further Northland is if you're a

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Speaker 3: heavy user of transport, you get a concession, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Or you can pay a yearly fee that's a little

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Speaker 3: bit less than pain each time you go through that toll.

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Speaker 2: Which makes sense to get another subscription of subscription to

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Speaker 2: the new Auckland Harbour Cross crossing. Get a yearly subscription

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Speaker 2: and save twenty percent on your toll roads. A subscription

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Speaker 2: to walkward to Welsford. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the idea? Did you get

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Speaker 2: a nationwide subscription so you also get the Hawks Bay

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Speaker 3: Oh, you get a combo deal, the combo deal of

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Speaker 2: I'm down for that. I hope bypass.

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you on this one. O. Eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is totlling the way forward.

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Speaker 3: We all know that we need to step up when

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Speaker 3: it comes to these infrastructure projects and highways. Is that

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Speaker 3: a fair way to do it? Or do you see

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Speaker 3: some problems with it? Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Nine to nine two is the text number. It's thirteen

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Speaker 2: past one for whom the belt, Oh God, he's good.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 5: Matt and Tayler afternoons with the Volvo.

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Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the idea of toll roads for our

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Speaker 3: roads of national significance.

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Speaker 2: The government are pretty hot on it.

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Speaker 3: They have told investors at this International Investors Summit that

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Speaker 3: they want their help in deciding on the options for

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Speaker 3: a second Auckland Harbor crossing. But Chris Bishop, the Minister

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Speaker 3: of Infrastructure, has also told attendees the government was exploring

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Speaker 3: tolling concessions to speed up these roading construction projects and

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Speaker 3: all roads of national significance are being assessed for tolling options.

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Speaker 3: So is it a good idea to help pay for

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Speaker 3: some of these highways that we desperately need?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you remember the Auckland Harbor Bridge toll,

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Speaker 2: how do that work? I bentioned? So that was just

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Speaker 2: a driving past at pace having a coin in there?

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Speaker 2: Is that how it worked? Ordered with their big cues

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Speaker 2: to go through. When did they stop tolling that? Now

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Speaker 2: that that's a good question. Yeah, when did they stop

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Speaker 2: tolling the Ukland Harbor Bridge. Was it paid off?

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: This one says, hey, guys, toll roads are a great

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Speaker 3: Forcing people onto toll roads is a force tax, and

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Speaker 3: you don't, don't use it from Anthony.

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Speaker 3: I think that is part of the deal. If you've

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Speaker 3: But oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys. Where you think toll roads are a great

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Speaker 8: And I think that was it really did frustrate me,

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Speaker 8: The only time that having a massive over inflated bureaucracy

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just just get in and do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just quickly to your point about totong Or, no

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Speaker 8: I actually wouldn't have a problem with that. I do, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't have a problem with that. But depending you know,

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Speaker 8: I do think, you know, we one of the road

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Speaker 8: And I think, but they do other dumb stuff. The

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Speaker 8: And I just cannot believe that when you're doing something

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Speaker 8: So you must.

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Speaker 2: Be pleased that there's sort of a bipartisan approach coming

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Speaker 8: I think that's the biggest plus out of this whole

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Speaker 3: It, well, I think so much for you call Greg yeah,

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Speaker 3: But the idea of a toll road is that it

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Speaker 3: You know, an extra ten cents on a lider of petrol.

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Speaker 3: I think that was a mistake. I think that should

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Speaker 2: Well, Why are they slapping around totong are and letting

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Speaker 3: A good question, abright. One hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: We're talking about PPPs and tolling of roads of national significance. Alan,

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Speaker 9: I'm a big fan of them. About twelve years ago

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Speaker 9: we spent more money on tolls than we did on fuel.

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Speaker 9: But the roads were outstanding. You could get from A

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Speaker 9: The speed limits one hundred and forty over there, so

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Speaker 9: to go over them. The roads are pretty good, and

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Speaker 9: good as well. And yeah, I think all pouts, I'm really.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you Allan.

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Speaker 3: The only fish k I can see is and someone

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Speaker 3: texting what about road user charges? And we know that

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Well maybe, but you know, the toll road will also

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Speaker 9: even though that the cars that they are hiring and

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Speaker 9: It will also pick up cars that don't have any

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Speaker 9: And you know, and those people who are dodging that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, well, I think there's a lot of texts that

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Speaker 3: agree with you on the toll roads, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Toll roads here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely nice one, Allen, have a great afternoon, mate,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your phone call.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a question for everyone, yep. On nine

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm going to write down my answer.

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Speaker 3: But if you think you know nine to nine to

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Speaker 3: two is the text.

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Speaker 2: Number, let's just say it's a trick question. Okay, very good.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about toll roads eight hundred and eighty,

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Speaker 2: ten eighty or nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we're talking about toll roads. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you support them because these PPPs are probably going

454
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Speaker 2: to come with tolls on your roads of national significance

455
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Speaker 2: or your second harbor crossing, which brings me to my question.

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Speaker 2: I asked us before the break how much was the

457
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Speaker 2: toll on the Auckland Harbor Bridge when it opened on

458
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Speaker 2: the fifth heath well that came out weird said that,

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Speaker 2: tellow again, you've been eating it sounds like I've been

460
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Speaker 2: drinking the thirtieth of May nineteen fifty nine. Twenty cents

461
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Speaker 2: this is person ten cents is another zero, says another

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Speaker 2: fifty cents is another No, you did say it was

463
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Speaker 2: a trick question and I wrote down a florin. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: how much was a florin? I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much a florin was? Peter, have you got

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Speaker 2: the answer?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it was two shilling and six then six five cents, Yeah,

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Speaker 14: two shillings and six, because I remember I used to

469
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Speaker 14: drop twenty five cents and.

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Speaker 15: For my mum.

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Speaker 14: We used to live on the shore. Yeah, and so

472
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Speaker 14: we used to go over him back quite a bit.

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Speaker 14: I think they stopped at about eighty four. Yeah, when

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Speaker 14: they took it off, so it was about twenty five years.

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Speaker 14: And I remember when they took it off, we all

476
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Speaker 14: went Yahoo, you know, because line up and dropped your

477
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Speaker 14: money and the blended. So did you get behold? You

478
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Speaker 14: never had the right change.

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Speaker 2: You know, and so so Peter, did you did you

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Speaker 2: stop or you just at the time it did you

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Speaker 2: cruise pass and you dropped it out the window?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think initially there used to be people in the

484
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Speaker 14: booths that used to take it, and they introduced later

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Speaker 14: on like the dropping then where you just drop the

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Speaker 14: money in. Yeah, So I don't ever remember it going

487
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Speaker 14: to anything electronic where it read you there was way too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be That'd have been hard to do ninety

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Speaker 2: fifty nine. But yeah, I like the idea of just

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Speaker 2: walking past.

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Speaker 14: You know, towards towards the end of it. In eighty

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Speaker 14: four and that type of thing. I'm pretty sure it

494
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Speaker 14: was they took the people out of the booze and yeah,

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Speaker 14: you have to have the right money to drop it in.

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Speaker 3: Something nice about the analogue nature of it, though, wasn't

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Speaker 3: you just drop it in rather than this digital nonsense?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well that's what it was like when I first

499
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Speaker 14: started again in the US too, there was a lot

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Speaker 14: of that, but now it's all you know, so they're

501
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Speaker 14: automatically cold, and I do business up there and everyone

502
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Speaker 14: just got it on their windscreens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, would you back yourself? Thank you, Peter, you got

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Speaker 2: it right? Yeah, two two and six ye, which is

505
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Speaker 2: about probably eight bucks now. Ooh that's steep, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: So Boks one way? Yeah, who, it's a lot of coin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Would you beg yourself to get it in the little

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Speaker 2: bin at eighty k across the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to give it a shot. I suppose if

511
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Speaker 3: you missed then you're going to go back and pick

512
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Speaker 3: it up and try again. It would be a bit awkward.

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Speaker 2: I think you've got it.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, We're going to take more of your cause

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

516
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Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is twenty five to two.

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Speaker 5: Matt Tyler.

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Speaker 3: What to help us break down what is a private

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Speaker 3: public partnership how it all works. We're joined by New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Heral Business Editor at Large, Liam Dan Liam, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much for jumping in.

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Speaker 2: No worries, Liam, How do private public partnerships differ from

523
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Speaker 2: just contracting a company to build your piece of infrastructure.

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Speaker 17: Well, there's an issue about really, and there's a bit

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Speaker 17: of contention about whether this is a privatization. So in

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Speaker 17: some cases the private company may own it or own

527
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Speaker 17: half of it, or the government will have a partnership

528
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Speaker 17: around ownership, or they'll have contracted that it will return

529
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Speaker 17: to public ownership in fifty years or.

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 17: Essentially, the risk is being borne by the private company

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Speaker 17: and the money is coming up front from the big

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Speaker 17: money is coming up from the private upfront from the

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Speaker 17: private company.

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Speaker 2: So how does the investor make money.

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Speaker 17: Well, the investor makes money by charging a fee back

537
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Speaker 17: to the government to use the asset. Right, so I

538
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Speaker 17: guess it's pretty simple. Most people will get it for roads,

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Speaker 17: and like the idea of another harbor bridge, Auckland harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 17: You can say, well, we're going to get a private

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Speaker 17: company in to build this. There's going to be a

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Speaker 17: fifty year contract on it. It's going to have tolls

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Speaker 17: and service fees. The asset will either be still technically

544
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Speaker 17: a public asset or it'll revert to a public asset

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Speaker 17: in fifty years something like that, you know, fairly straightforward.

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Speaker 17: It gets a bit more contentious around hospitals, schools, that

547
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Speaker 17: sort of thing, but essentially, you know, you could still say,

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Speaker 17: you know, a government is paying as they go for

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Speaker 17: the healthcare and for the contract to the hospital, so they.

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Speaker 12: Are you know.

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Speaker 17: It's sort of like, you know, difference between buying a

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Speaker 17: car up front. It's kind of cheaper to buy a

553
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Speaker 17: car up front, right if you've got cash, But if

554
00:26:18,653 --> 00:26:21,133
Speaker 17: you need to you don't have cash, and this government

555
00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:24,893
Speaker 17: doesn't have cash, then then you can go go see

556
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Speaker 17: a dealer and pay a little bit every week for.

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Speaker 2: The next so it's essentially a higher purchase.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, it is sort of. There are some other

559
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Speaker 17: other factors in there. I mean, you know, weirdly, you know,

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Speaker 17: critics will say governments can borrow more cheaply than private

561
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Speaker 17: the private sector, so it actually maybe puts more cost

562
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Speaker 17: into the project when you get the private sector to

563
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Speaker 17: fund it. But then there's a lot of skepticism, the

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Speaker 17: skepticism in this government and on the right generally. And

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Speaker 17: you know, you can find plenty of examples in history

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Speaker 17: of governments not doing a great job and of building assets,

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Speaker 17: and of massive cost overruns and things not getting finished

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Speaker 17: on time.

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Speaker 2: And so essentially, because it's the company's bottom line, they

570
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Speaker 2: have to make money, they'll do it efficiently.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and it costs them if they the cost if

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Speaker 17: it overruns or you know, it isn't finished on time,

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Speaker 17: that's borne by the private company. So you're out, you're

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Speaker 17: outsourcing some risk away from the government.

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Speaker 3: We've been pretty keen on these PPPs as a country

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Speaker 3: for some time, or our governments have Are we unique

577
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Speaker 3: in that or is this quite a common theme in

578
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Speaker 3: other Western countries as well to try and form these

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Speaker 3: private public partnerships.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, they're probably used more extensively around the world. In

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Speaker 17: the UK, for example, they've used them for big infrastructure

582
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Speaker 17: projects like you know, revitalizing their underground. Canada I think

583
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Speaker 17: actually does have a lot of PPPs around hospitals. I know,

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Speaker 17: you know, I think you know at the moment we've

585
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Speaker 17: got to bipartisan agreement and you can see labors on

586
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Speaker 17: board with big roads, bridges, all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 17: but they draw the line at the hospitals and schools, right.

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Speaker 2: So, because you could have a situation because some people

589
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Speaker 2: might not like a prison being run prisons the other ye.

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Speaker 2: But if it's just around the infrastructure, the building of

591
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Speaker 2: the actual building, but not the running of it, is

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Speaker 2: that still of interest to companies to invest.

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Speaker 17: In, Well, they've got to get a return, right, So

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Speaker 17: they have to get there's got to be a contract

595
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Speaker 17: where there's money coming back to that company over a

596
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Speaker 17: period of time to make the return. So I guess

597
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Speaker 17: it doesn't necessarily have to involve running the prison, but

598
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Speaker 17: there is going to be fees to pay on the prison,

599
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Speaker 17: and so it's a cost. It's still a cost of taxpayers.

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Speaker 17: It's just spreading the cost over time, spreading the risk,

601
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Speaker 17: or you know, outsourcing the risk. Critics might say, look

602
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Speaker 17: over time, like that car at the car dealers, you'll

603
00:29:01,493 --> 00:29:05,413
Speaker 17: have paid a lot more for the asset. But again

604
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Speaker 17: that'll come back to that debate about whether you think

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00:29:07,933 --> 00:29:11,253
Speaker 17: government are just absolutely terrible at building this stuff and

606
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Speaker 17: that they're just you know, because if we're borrowing masses more,

607
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Speaker 17: well maybe it is at a lower interest rate, but

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00:29:17,933 --> 00:29:20,693
Speaker 17: if we don't get the things built properly, that that's

609
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Speaker 17: all going on the crown accounts and stuffing our box.

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Speaker 2: So just to make it clear, how would you envision

611
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Speaker 2: say a second harbor crossing working. Then well, how much

612
00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:35,813
Speaker 2: would the would the foreign investors put all the money

613
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Speaker 2: in and then we pay it all back, or we

614
00:29:37,933 --> 00:29:41,453
Speaker 2: go some from the government, some from the investor, and

615
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Speaker 2: then how do they make their money back?

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Speaker 17: All those models could be the case. You could have

617
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Speaker 17: a partnership where the government stumps up half in the

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Speaker 17: private you know, you create an entity and it might

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Speaker 17: be fifty percent owned by the government and fifty percent

620
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Speaker 17: owned by the private sector and they work together. Or

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Speaker 17: you go, no, no, we're going the full private model

622
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Speaker 17: and pretty much say go to town, build as a

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Speaker 17: harbor bridge and we'll pay you tolls. And a service

624
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Speaker 17: fee for the next thirty fifty years. Hopefully they would

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Speaker 17: build it efficiently and look, that would be easier because

626
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Speaker 17: it would be I think the government, you know, with

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Speaker 17: the toll is a user pays aspect. You know, a hospital,

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Speaker 17: there's always going to be a fear or some political

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Speaker 17: pushback around the user pays aspect of it. People want

630
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Speaker 17: a public health service, but then you know, governments could

631
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Speaker 17: choose to fund the most gold standard free public health

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Speaker 17: service and still use a PPP. They could just be

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Speaker 17: agreeing to pay the money to that.

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Speaker 2: And if they have their regulations in place that you

635
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Speaker 2: know what we expect and what has to be delivered,

636
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Speaker 2: and we're all happy with that, then you could argue

637
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Speaker 2: that's not too much of a problem. So is there

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Speaker 2: any interest so far, anyone putting up their hands and

639
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Speaker 2: say they want to do it?

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Speaker 17: From the summit, I think we heard from an Italian

641
00:31:00,013 --> 00:31:04,613
Speaker 17: company that was talking about that extension to the Northern Expressway,

642
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Speaker 17: so that's probably a good one. That's that's the one

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Speaker 17: that's on the table. So this this summit, the issue

644
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Speaker 17: is that we haven't actually got that many PPPs ready

645
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:19,893
Speaker 17: to go, so it's it's a starting point. But you know,

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Speaker 17: I think what the government really needs is one that's

647
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Speaker 17: just underway and working so that people can see the

648
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Speaker 17: model and that other companies can see that that could work.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, it's going to be a bit more debate

650
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Speaker 17: around around whether we go to hospitals and schools and prisons.

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Speaker 2: I think. So if a company invested a billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: how much return would they want to see over the

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Speaker 2: thirty fifty years. It's a good question.

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Speaker 17: It's got to be more than putting in the bank, right,

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Speaker 17: otherwise you don't bother so that would be I'm sort

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Speaker 17: of guessing a little bit, but you'd want a return

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Speaker 17: of you know, five ten percent. It's got to be

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Speaker 17: better than bonds, which is the equivalent of putting money

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Speaker 17: in the bank. It should be a rout to the

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Speaker 17: low risk, stable investment. So it appeals to big investment

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Speaker 17: funds around the world. So weirdly, you know, in New

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Speaker 17: Zealand our own super fund, our acc fund, that's the

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Speaker 17: sort of thing they can get involved in because it

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Speaker 17: provides a stable return. So if you can get a

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Speaker 17: return of seven or eight percent or something like that,

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Speaker 17: there would be a solid return. If it was over

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Speaker 17: thirty years.

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Speaker 3: And obviously tolling. Just to bring it back to the tolling,

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Speaker 3: that is an added sweetener. If someone's going to invest

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Speaker 3: a lot of money and infrastructure and that is part

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Speaker 3: of the equation, then that hopefully might make it easy

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Speaker 3: to get across the line.

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Speaker 17: Governments can still make a choice. They can still say

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Speaker 17: we're going to make this free, but we're going to

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Speaker 17: have to pay that difference to the private company to

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Speaker 17: ensure that the contract works for them.

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Speaker 3: Either way, we pay, yeah, exactly eventually, eventually, Liam, very

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Speaker 3: very interesting, Thanks very much for coming and having a

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Speaker 3: chat with us.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch again soon.

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Speaker 3: That is New Zealand Herald Business Editor at large, Liam Dan.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to news Talks There, be good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor afternoons

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Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 5: Call eight hundred eighty News Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Now, we had been talking about toll roads and is

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Speaker 3: that a fear way to pay for some of the infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: We needed this text here, This is anti toll road

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Speaker 3: on nineteen nine two toll theft.

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 2: That's it? That's it? Okay, isn't short and sharp, doesn't

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Speaker 2: back up the argument two tolls ore theft, we need more.

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Speaker 2: If you if you're going to text tolls ore theft,

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Speaker 2: we need to you need to explain your rationale a

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Speaker 2: little bit more. Thanks on nineteen nine two would appreciate

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Speaker 2: or even better ring up one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: But what happened, Tyler was I had a fun little

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Speaker 2: fact you did across the break where I said, what

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Speaker 2: was the toll on the Auckland Harbor Bridge when it

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00:33:52,853 --> 00:33:55,733
Speaker 2: opened in nineteen fifty nine? Yep?

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Speaker 3: And what was the answer? It was a shellings and

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Speaker 3: six mate. Yeah, two shillings and six pence. But somewhere

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00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:04,733
Speaker 3: along the line someone mentioned the floor, and that has

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Speaker 3: upset a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, you're going to sit up straight on this, Okay.

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Speaker 7: You got stories. So I remember the old the old

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00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:23,173
Speaker 7: fashioned money very well. There was a shilling which we

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Speaker 7: had twelve pennies in it, okay, And they were pennies

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Speaker 7: were brown, little, were brown, quite big, about an inch

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Speaker 7: across coins. And there were there were half pennies that

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Speaker 7: were about half that size, and they were made out

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Speaker 7: of copper as well. And then there was this what

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Speaker 7: the silver which was the tens, the the twenty pence

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Speaker 7: piece which was called the shilling, and then the two

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Speaker 7: shillings was the florin, and then two and sixpence was

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Speaker 7: the half crown. And on the ar occasion, for example,

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Speaker 7: they put a special crown out which was five shillings

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Speaker 7: on special. I don't know whether they did it, but

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Speaker 7: maybe when Sir Edmund Hillary climbed Everest they would have

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Speaker 7: put out a crown to commemorate it, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah right, So Kevin, two and sex was two

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Speaker 2: and six just one coin.

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Speaker 7: Then two and six was one call ah.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, yeah, right, that makes sense.

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Speaker 18: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was called a half crown, a half crown, and.

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Speaker 7: A crowd had a crown was five shillings. And occasionally,

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Speaker 7: as I say, they'd bring out they'd strike a special

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Speaker 7: crown for a special events.

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Speaker 2: Yeah cool. Hey, so I think when was that was

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven? I believe this decimal currency day. So

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Speaker 2: what system when you when you when you jumped over

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Speaker 2: to the decimal system, was that better or did you

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Speaker 2: prefer the florins and the shillings and the crowns.

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Speaker 7: It's not a no there's no question about it. A

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Speaker 7: decimal system is a damn site easier than but you

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Speaker 7: had you had the the the the score rule. So

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Speaker 7: if you bought twenty of something that cost so many shillings,

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Speaker 7: maybe you cost you bought twenty three shilling I don't

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Speaker 7: know ice streams or something. You called the shillings pounds.

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Speaker 7: So if you bought twenty three shilling things, it cost

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Speaker 7: you three pounds. And then there was the there was

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Speaker 7: the what was the shilling rule? Was it the it

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Speaker 7: was the other one that if you bought a dozen

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Speaker 7: a dozen rules, if you bought a dozen things, that

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Speaker 7: it say happens? Yep, you called the penny shillings all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, thank you for clearing that up, Kevin. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I see what you mean, though, Keiven. The decimal system

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Speaker 2: is far easy. You got a crown, you got a shilling, half.

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Speaker 3: Crown, pence, half penny. I forgot about the half penny.

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Speaker 3: It must have been crazy though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On the tenth of July. I've just seen it

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Speaker 2: here in nineteen sixty seven when they swapped over, so

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00:37:10,773 --> 00:37:14,453
Speaker 2: suddenly your money systems changed. Yeah, I reckon people to

756
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Speaker 2: struggle here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you get used to that sort of system,

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00:37:17,253 --> 00:37:20,333
Speaker 3: and then you've got the decimal system coming in. But Kevin,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for clearing all that up. Quick

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Speaker 3: couple of texts. Back to the toll roads, and we

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Speaker 3: mentioned the road user charges as well. Hey guys, toll

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Speaker 3: roads is a great idea. The rucks or the road

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Speaker 3: user charges a big no no. So many unregistered and

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Speaker 3: unwarranted cars on roads already, same abusers won't pay the

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Speaker 3: rucks and will then escape the fuel tax. And what

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Speaker 3: about charging tourists mileage on rental cars unlimited mileages on

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Speaker 3: every overseas rental line have hired over the last thirty years.

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Speaker 3: It will turn tourists off from MACA. Toll roads is

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Speaker 3: the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't hide from a toll road.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get the money off people, then

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00:37:57,213 --> 00:37:59,773
Speaker 2: then the toll road will do it. Yep, exactly. You

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Speaker 2: can't hide from a toll road. It will get you,

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Speaker 2: all right. What do you think of this? Eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty nine nine two. If these roads

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Speaker 2: of national significance are made as PPPs or another harbor

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00:38:12,053 --> 00:38:15,253
Speaker 2: bridge crossing, then there's going to be toll roads. So

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Speaker 2: the so the investors can get their money back. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to two. Bag very surely. Here

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Speaker 2: on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: Matties, Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Matt and Tyler Afternoon with the

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Speaker 3: Talk EDB, News Talk Zed B. Jan Good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: We've got a couple of minutes before the news.

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Speaker 2: How are you thank new items?

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Speaker 19: Okay? The Harbor Bridge tolls were when it went into

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Speaker 19: decimal currency were twenty cents. When the nineteen eighty by

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Speaker 19: election came up and Don Brash was standing for National

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Speaker 19: and Male Dooon didn't like Don Brash. They he put

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Speaker 19: up the tolls to twenty five cents in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 19: and Don Branch loss Gary napped from social credit clot

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Speaker 19: and as a result. Now what I am saying about

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Speaker 19: a harbor crossing and I think we should take notice

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Speaker 19: of how Sydney has built their tunnels. They've done their

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00:39:17,893 --> 00:39:22,493
Speaker 19: privatized the tunnely the second tunnel. We could put in

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Speaker 19: as many crossings as we like. That we have got

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Speaker 19: the on remps. The problem, not the bridge the on

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Speaker 19: remps there on ramps are queuing up all the time

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Speaker 19: for thirty or forty minutes to get onto the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 19: And there are two hundred thousand cars a day going

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Speaker 19: over the Harbor Bridge. But how can we put another

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Speaker 19: crossing in without on rems?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you for you cool. We're going to

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00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:47,893
Speaker 2: have to work out all that infrastructure. But as PPPs

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00:39:47,973 --> 00:39:51,613
Speaker 2: the answer to do that, Yeah, and tolling, because yeah,

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00:39:51,653 --> 00:39:54,613
Speaker 2: you've got to get people on to the new crossing

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00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:57,333
Speaker 2: or into the new crossing exactly. You can't tell them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on, right, good discussion. Couple of techs to

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Speaker 3: wrap it all up. There's a heck of a lot

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Speaker 3: of techs coming through on money. I think we've wrapped

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Speaker 3: up the money situation.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to get into the Farthings debate.

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Speaker 3: No, no, this one. Yeah, guys. At first everyone had

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Speaker 3: to stop and pay on the Harbor Bridge. Then they

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00:40:15,973 --> 00:40:18,533
Speaker 3: bought in the shoots to throw the coin into, but

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Speaker 3: you still had the option to stop. They canned it

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Speaker 3: as it created big delays.

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Speaker 2: There you go, you go, and black Rock will end

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Speaker 2: up owning New Zealand. All right, Okay, thank you for

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Speaker 2: your text and been a great discussion. It's new topic

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Speaker 2: next hour.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we want to talk about those people who dump

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Speaker 3: their rubbish or what they consider to be good, but

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Speaker 3: it is just rubbish at the end of the day

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Speaker 3: outside places like the Salvation Army. You've come up with

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Speaker 3: a name for them, chumping, chumping or chumps. Yeah, to

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Speaker 3: be fair, Andrew, our producer, came up with their name.

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Speaker 3: Andrew chumpers are chumps.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to start a whole campaign people

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Speaker 2: that just dump their rubbish and pretend they're doing something good.

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Speaker 2: They're just moving their problem onto the good people that

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Speaker 2: are running charity shops.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call love to hear from you on that issue.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number you're listening

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Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler. I hope you having a great

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Speaker 3: Friday after noon New Sport and weather on it's.

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Speaker 5: Way talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 1: XC ninety used talk.

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Speaker 3: Zib Good afternoon six pass to welcome back into the

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Speaker 3: show Friday afternoon. Good discussion about tolls and this is

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Speaker 3: going to be a great discussion about those who dump

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Speaker 3: stuff outside of charity stores.

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Speaker 2: Chumpers, chumpers, chumpers are jumps So chumpers are charity dumpers.

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Speaker 2: We've just coined the name. I might start a whole

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Speaker 2: campaign to stop jumpers because I see that. It makes

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Speaker 2: me feel so sad inside when I drive past the

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Speaker 2: charity shop and I see that someone across the weekend.

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Speaker 2: This is like late on a Sunday night and you

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Speaker 2: see someone who's moving house or they've got a bunch

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Speaker 2: of rubbish that they don't want anymore, and they just

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Speaker 2: dump it out the front of the charity shop instead

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Speaker 2: of waiting for Monday to see if they actually want

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Speaker 2: it or giving them a phone call. They just dump

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Speaker 2: it there, and they kind of in their hearts think

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Speaker 2: that maybe I'm doing something good potentially because I'm not

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Speaker 2: taking it straight to the dump or what you doing

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00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:11,253
Speaker 2: is just unloading your problem onto someone else. Yeah, uness,

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Speaker 2: you're giving them stuff they actually won't also can't sit

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Speaker 2: down on the street over overnight. Yeah, So absolute chumpers,

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Speaker 2: Absolute chumpers.

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Well, the reason we're talking about this is there is

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Speaker 3: a Meadow Bank resident. Her name is Galina Netscheyeva. Now,

869
00:42:26,813 --> 00:42:29,533
Speaker 3: she says she's been making monthly donations to the Glen

870
00:42:29,573 --> 00:42:33,733
Speaker 3: in a Salvation Army family store, but in February she

871
00:42:33,813 --> 00:42:36,133
Speaker 3: left a box of what she said was glass wear

872
00:42:36,213 --> 00:42:38,772
Speaker 3: and closes and a shopping bag on a ledge next

873
00:42:38,813 --> 00:42:39,893
Speaker 3: to the store entrance.

874
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:42,973
Speaker 2: What she said was out of the way of the entrance, I.

875
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:45,493
Speaker 3: Quote from her, it was not dumped, it wasn't in

876
00:42:45,493 --> 00:42:49,213
Speaker 3: the walking area, and it wasn't a mess chumper chumper

877
00:42:49,373 --> 00:42:52,173
Speaker 3: because however, in March she received a letter from the

878
00:42:52,213 --> 00:42:55,093
Speaker 3: Auckland Council saying that leaving the bag outside the store

879
00:42:55,413 --> 00:42:59,172
Speaker 3: constituted littering and after an investigation she could receive an

880
00:42:59,173 --> 00:43:01,133
Speaker 3: instant four hundred dollars fine.

881
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:04,013
Speaker 2: So the letter showed the CCTV.

882
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,653
Speaker 3: Footage that the council had of her being a chumper

883
00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:10,173
Speaker 3: and dumping this stuff outside the Salvation me outside of ours.

884
00:43:11,333 --> 00:43:15,373
Speaker 3: So Auckland Council Away Solutions general manager Justine Haves says

885
00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:17,933
Speaker 3: leaving donations outside of op shops out of ours was

886
00:43:17,973 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 3: a massive problem. We know that she sees I quote.

887
00:43:20,893 --> 00:43:23,293
Speaker 3: Not all items are accepted by shops. The bags will

888
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:26,293
Speaker 3: often be broken into some items, taken other items are

889
00:43:26,293 --> 00:43:29,252
Speaker 3: straw and across the footpath, creating their hazard and making

890
00:43:29,253 --> 00:43:32,413
Speaker 3: them unfit for sale, and there are health and safety issues.

891
00:43:32,213 --> 00:43:35,213
Speaker 2: Dirty chumper look to be fair. I don't know the

892
00:43:35,253 --> 00:43:37,653
Speaker 2: full details around the story. There's a few details there.

893
00:43:37,813 --> 00:43:41,093
Speaker 2: It does sound plausible that she just didn't understand and

894
00:43:41,173 --> 00:43:43,013
Speaker 2: she's been donating a lot and she thought I'll just

895
00:43:43,013 --> 00:43:46,333
Speaker 2: don't in the weekend. But you gotta you've got a

896
00:43:46,453 --> 00:43:51,692
Speaker 2: chomp down on chumpers, because chumpers charity dumpers. You know,

897
00:43:51,893 --> 00:43:53,613
Speaker 2: some of them mean well, but many of them are

898
00:43:53,613 --> 00:43:54,693
Speaker 2: just trying to get rid of the rubbis out of

899
00:43:54,733 --> 00:43:55,733
Speaker 2: the house. As I've said before.

900
00:43:55,813 --> 00:43:57,813
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so I'd love to hear from people that

901
00:43:57,853 --> 00:43:59,573
Speaker 3: have worked in charity shops.

902
00:44:00,773 --> 00:44:02,533
Speaker 2: What is the worst stuff you get dumped off? What

903
00:44:02,933 --> 00:44:04,973
Speaker 2: is the stuff you don't need? What is the stuff

904
00:44:05,093 --> 00:44:09,253
Speaker 2: you do need? And when should people dump a dump it?

905
00:44:10,413 --> 00:44:12,773
Speaker 2: When should people donate it? If you give it in

906
00:44:12,813 --> 00:44:15,453
Speaker 2: the weekend, when if you if you donate it in

907
00:44:15,493 --> 00:44:18,773
Speaker 2: the weekend when they're not there, that's dumping it. Absolutely,

908
00:44:18,853 --> 00:44:21,213
Speaker 2: it's not donating, You're not You're not donating, you're dumping.

909
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:23,252
Speaker 2: But if you do it in the week when they're there,

910
00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:26,893
Speaker 2: you're you're donating, but there's a really good chance that

911
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,813
Speaker 2: they want to don't want to take ninety percent of

912
00:44:28,853 --> 00:44:31,093
Speaker 2: your crap because nothing they could deal with it. But

913
00:44:30,853 --> 00:44:33,653
Speaker 2: the but the most horrible thing is imagining someone turning

914
00:44:33,733 --> 00:44:35,933
Speaker 2: up to work at their charity shop and then they've

915
00:44:35,973 --> 00:44:39,133
Speaker 2: just got to deal with your refuse. You're turning a

916
00:44:39,213 --> 00:44:41,652
Speaker 2: charity shop into a refuse transfer center. Yep.

917
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:43,613
Speaker 3: And can I just add you can't just turn up

918
00:44:43,653 --> 00:44:45,973
Speaker 3: with a bag of clothes when they're open and you

919
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:47,813
Speaker 3: put the bag down, you give them a wave and

920
00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:49,733
Speaker 3: say that's for you, see you later. You've got to

921
00:44:49,773 --> 00:44:51,853
Speaker 3: wait for the staff memer to come out, open up

922
00:44:51,893 --> 00:44:54,773
Speaker 3: the back and see if they want your your rags.

923
00:44:55,093 --> 00:44:57,773
Speaker 3: And I'm not ashamed to admit I've taken clothes to

924
00:44:57,773 --> 00:45:00,893
Speaker 3: the Salvation Army before and they've turned their nose.

925
00:45:00,813 --> 00:45:02,172
Speaker 2: Up at some of the clothes that I offered them.

926
00:45:02,253 --> 00:45:05,133
Speaker 2: You weren't bringing in your sealed undies with you? Not

927
00:45:05,213 --> 00:45:07,973
Speaker 2: that a decent wash. I'm always impressed by people that

928
00:45:07,973 --> 00:45:11,573
Speaker 2: buy to wear from from op shops. Yeah, there's something

929
00:45:11,613 --> 00:45:14,333
Speaker 2: about it. I had a friend that just used to

930
00:45:14,373 --> 00:45:16,853
Speaker 2: buy because he thought they were very classy. The old ones.

931
00:45:17,253 --> 00:45:19,812
Speaker 2: It was there was a city something about it the briefs. Yeah,

932
00:45:19,813 --> 00:45:22,172
Speaker 2: from the ninety fifties. But we're off topic. Hey, if

933
00:45:22,173 --> 00:45:25,133
Speaker 2: the elastic's still good, nothing wrong with them. Yeah. And

934
00:45:25,173 --> 00:45:27,853
Speaker 2: also you can't just wedge a couch in the door

935
00:45:27,893 --> 00:45:30,133
Speaker 2: and run for it either. I've heard of that kind

936
00:45:30,173 --> 00:45:32,333
Speaker 2: of thing happening. It's like, oh, you've got a dirty couch,

937
00:45:32,333 --> 00:45:34,533
Speaker 2: someone's busy behind the counter, and then you just shove

938
00:45:34,613 --> 00:45:36,373
Speaker 2: your couch and the door and run for it. Nobody

939
00:45:36,373 --> 00:45:39,133
Speaker 2: wants You're ready? Yeah, yeah, So w eight hundred eighty

940
00:45:39,333 --> 00:45:42,093
Speaker 2: ten eighty. Have you had to deal with chumpers and

941
00:45:42,693 --> 00:45:48,133
Speaker 2: or do you have some some feelings of how would

942
00:45:48,133 --> 00:45:51,813
Speaker 2: I put it? Do you see some value and dumping

943
00:45:51,813 --> 00:45:54,573
Speaker 2: stuff in front of charity stores on the weekend. I'd

944
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:57,853
Speaker 2: love to hear what the least the least wanted stuff

945
00:45:58,053 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 2: at a charity store is. I think it's Dan Brown

946
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:03,933
Speaker 2: to da vincikom right up there. Yeah, yeah, oh, D

947
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:06,573
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Sorry Tyler to talk over

948
00:46:06,573 --> 00:46:07,533
Speaker 2: you to say the number.

949
00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:10,252
Speaker 3: Eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two

950
00:46:10,293 --> 00:46:12,133
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number.

951
00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:15,453
Speaker 2: Already got a text through on this death to Putin

952
00:46:15,493 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 2: and his cronies come there slightly off topic, but thank

953
00:46:18,573 --> 00:46:21,013
Speaker 2: you for you for your input. Appreciate the message. Yeah,

954
00:46:21,013 --> 00:46:22,693
Speaker 2: thank you very much. To live a bus to.

955
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Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons

956
00:46:28,773 --> 00:46:32,733
Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special.

957
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:35,613
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred news Talk.

958
00:46:35,453 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 5: Said, be.

959
00:46:37,893 --> 00:46:40,773
Speaker 3: Caught afternoon quarter past two. I don't know whether to

960
00:46:40,853 --> 00:46:43,453
Speaker 3: laugh or cry. Some of these ticks about chumpers as

961
00:46:43,453 --> 00:46:47,733
Speaker 3: we're calling them charity dumpers, is a little bit pressing.

962
00:46:48,173 --> 00:46:53,573
Speaker 2: Chumpers must go. Yes, hey, Matt and Tyler, I work

963
00:46:53,573 --> 00:46:56,093
Speaker 2: in a charity store and we have people regularly dumping

964
00:46:56,093 --> 00:46:58,893
Speaker 2: their goods out of ours. The only problem though, is

965
00:46:59,053 --> 00:47:03,133
Speaker 2: the drunks urinating on the remaining goods left in the doorway. Disgusting.

966
00:47:03,173 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 2: That's from Robin So I mean that. I mean so

967
00:47:05,853 --> 00:47:07,453
Speaker 2: I always thought I was always saying, already saying it

968
00:47:07,453 --> 00:47:09,653
Speaker 2: was depressing turning up to work on Monday at a

969
00:47:09,733 --> 00:47:11,333
Speaker 2: charity shop. You're doing a bit for the community, you're

970
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,333
Speaker 2: giving something back, and you've got to deal with some

971
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:15,573
Speaker 2: people just dumping and pretending that they're donating, but they're

972
00:47:15,573 --> 00:47:18,172
Speaker 2: actually dumping over the weekend when you're not open. I

973
00:47:18,253 --> 00:47:22,173
Speaker 2: didn't even foresee that people might also urinate on that

974
00:47:22,213 --> 00:47:24,813
Speaker 2: stuff before you get there. So you're having to deal

975
00:47:24,853 --> 00:47:28,453
Speaker 2: with your own soaked fake donations.

976
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:31,693
Speaker 3: Talking about kicking a charity when they're down. You're amazing

977
00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:37,373
Speaker 3: on this crap. Guys. You are asked not to leave

978
00:47:37,413 --> 00:47:40,652
Speaker 3: stuff out of ours. It's simple from Susie that woman

979
00:47:40,693 --> 00:47:41,733
Speaker 3: deserves her Fine.

980
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:44,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Susie says, taser and put her in jail.

981
00:47:44,413 --> 00:47:48,293
Speaker 2: Good on you, Susie. Okay, yeah, well enough. She claims

982
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:50,692
Speaker 2: she didn't know and she didn't see the sign and

983
00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:53,252
Speaker 2: that she donates quite a lot. But so maybe one

984
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:56,813
Speaker 2: strike and then a tasering straight to the taser, straight

985
00:47:56,853 --> 00:48:00,013
Speaker 2: to the taser. Kim, you work in a charity shop?

986
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:02,373
Speaker 1: Yeah?

987
00:48:03,173 --> 00:48:03,733
Speaker 15: Can you hear me?

988
00:48:03,893 --> 00:48:04,093
Speaker 7: Yeah?

989
00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:06,173
Speaker 2: Gotcha.

990
00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 15: I I've just left my shift at the charity shop.

991
00:48:11,133 --> 00:48:12,093
Speaker 15: I'm a volunteer.

992
00:48:12,573 --> 00:48:16,973
Speaker 2: Okay, good on you.

993
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:21,413
Speaker 15: So we do we have all of the above. Got

994
00:48:21,533 --> 00:48:27,813
Speaker 15: the regular dumping stuff outside out of ours and general

995
00:48:27,893 --> 00:48:29,652
Speaker 15: when people are doing it out of ours, I think

996
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:32,333
Speaker 15: they just know that they shouldn't be donating it. It's

997
00:48:32,413 --> 00:48:37,093
Speaker 15: not donatable stuff. And then you get the sneaky ones

998
00:48:37,093 --> 00:48:42,053
Speaker 15: that come in with things bagged up and give you

999
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:44,773
Speaker 15: a lovely smile, and then you open the bag up

1000
00:48:44,773 --> 00:48:49,732
Speaker 15: after the mess full of stained discussing bed linen or

1001
00:48:50,573 --> 00:48:57,053
Speaker 15: broken things. You know, it's it's just rude behavior. And

1002
00:48:57,093 --> 00:49:01,933
Speaker 15: what I think I'd like to convey today is first up, shockingly,

1003
00:49:02,253 --> 00:49:05,573
Speaker 15: the charity I'm working with, they've spend over a million

1004
00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:09,413
Speaker 15: dollars a year getting rid of the rough for them stumps.

1005
00:49:09,773 --> 00:49:14,212
Speaker 2: Wow, that's unreal. So a charity shop which is trying

1006
00:49:14,213 --> 00:49:17,853
Speaker 2: to do good is having to basically spend a million

1007
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:22,373
Speaker 2: dollars a year being a refuse transfer center for people

1008
00:49:22,413 --> 00:49:23,973
Speaker 2: pretending to donate a nutshell.

1009
00:49:24,693 --> 00:49:28,652
Speaker 15: That's sort of a nutshell because they're too lazy or

1010
00:49:28,773 --> 00:49:32,693
Speaker 15: too mean to go to the refuse transfer station proper

1011
00:49:33,373 --> 00:49:34,693
Speaker 15: and do it themselves.

1012
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:38,213
Speaker 2: That's incredibly gutting to hear. Imagine how far that million

1013
00:49:38,253 --> 00:49:39,093
Speaker 2: dollars would go.

1014
00:49:40,973 --> 00:49:43,772
Speaker 15: Exactly. And as a rule of some if I could

1015
00:49:43,813 --> 00:49:49,493
Speaker 15: convey to your listeners today, if you wouldn't be comfortable

1016
00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:54,293
Speaker 15: handing on that item to a friend or family member,

1017
00:49:54,573 --> 00:49:56,453
Speaker 15: then it shouldn't go to the charity shop.

1018
00:49:56,773 --> 00:50:00,413
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the charity shops that you've worked in, are

1019
00:50:00,453 --> 00:50:04,692
Speaker 2: they across the border. We're talking clothes, you know, crockery,

1020
00:50:05,373 --> 00:50:09,333
Speaker 2: box everything, everything. Yeah, yeah, So what is the stuff

1021
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:11,413
Speaker 2: you need the most of and what is the stuff

1022
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:12,652
Speaker 2: you need the least of?

1023
00:50:14,253 --> 00:50:17,813
Speaker 15: You know what common waves? It does come in waves,

1024
00:50:18,013 --> 00:50:26,213
Speaker 15: but we find nice reusable clothes are always popular. Ye,

1025
00:50:26,613 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 15: and furniture items are very popular.

1026
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:33,333
Speaker 2: So in terms of the workload and sorry no you go,

1027
00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:36,013
Speaker 2: oh no, it's.

1028
00:50:35,813 --> 00:50:39,253
Speaker 15: Just whatever comes in that is sailable really, as long

1029
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:43,013
Speaker 15: as it's in good condition, it's clean, and it's a

1030
00:50:43,093 --> 00:50:44,813
Speaker 15: saleable item.

1031
00:50:44,893 --> 00:50:47,733
Speaker 3: Would something like glass wear be turned away on a

1032
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:50,253
Speaker 3: fairly regular basis? I imagine you get a truckload of

1033
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:52,133
Speaker 3: glass wearing, you just wouldn't be able to take it all.

1034
00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:56,973
Speaker 15: Yeah, we tend to get a bit too much of

1035
00:50:57,053 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 15: homewares at the moment, but that again, that might in

1036
00:51:00,133 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 15: six months time, it might be needed.

1037
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:06,053
Speaker 2: It's just comes in waves, right, Okay. Would you support

1038
00:51:06,173 --> 00:51:08,293
Speaker 2: the four hundred dollar fine for this woman that's been

1039
00:51:08,573 --> 00:51:15,133
Speaker 2: on CCTV camera making a donation outside of opening hours.

1040
00:51:16,053 --> 00:51:19,853
Speaker 15: It may sound harsh, but I think that she's kind

1041
00:51:19,893 --> 00:51:21,453
Speaker 15: of been used as a precedent.

1042
00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can kind of see that she might

1043
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,213
Speaker 2: have made a mistake, but there probably needs to be

1044
00:51:26,253 --> 00:51:27,573
Speaker 2: an example made of people.

1045
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:29,733
Speaker 15: Yeah that's it.

1046
00:51:30,013 --> 00:51:32,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, thank you so much for your call.

1047
00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:36,093
Speaker 2: I think we can call it Galino's law. That's her name.

1048
00:51:36,173 --> 00:51:38,733
Speaker 3: So maybe she is just unfortunately the poster child for

1049
00:51:38,773 --> 00:51:41,573
Speaker 3: what you do not do outside of charity shops. But

1050
00:51:41,733 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 3: can I say, there's the reason I asked about the

1051
00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 3: glass were is what she was dropping off was glass

1052
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:46,013
Speaker 3: wearing clothes?

1053
00:51:46,613 --> 00:51:48,493
Speaker 2: This sounds to me like rubbish. Well at four hundred

1054
00:51:48,533 --> 00:51:50,413
Speaker 2: dollars fine might be a good place to start with

1055
00:51:50,453 --> 00:51:52,733
Speaker 2: this and then we move on to some kind of

1056
00:51:52,733 --> 00:51:58,453
Speaker 2: wider campaign. Yep, So jumpers are chumps? What happened to

1057
00:51:58,493 --> 00:52:01,253
Speaker 2: the taser? Well, get David Bellamy back into the country.

1058
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:06,893
Speaker 2: Jumpers it chump. Actually, we'll try and rustle up that

1059
00:52:07,053 --> 00:52:10,293
Speaker 2: whole Ben's beard as great air and play that for you,

1060
00:52:10,373 --> 00:52:12,853
Speaker 2: all right? But yeah, do you think four hundred of

1061
00:52:12,933 --> 00:52:18,893
Speaker 2: fine for donating outside of the hours of a charity

1062
00:52:18,933 --> 00:52:24,213
Speaker 2: shop is a fear a fear punishment or not? You

1063
00:52:24,213 --> 00:52:26,973
Speaker 2: think people should just be able to donate with the

1064
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:28,732
Speaker 2: inverted commerce whenever they want.

1065
00:52:28,893 --> 00:52:31,253
Speaker 3: And if you work for a charity shop, what are

1066
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:34,373
Speaker 3: the items that you get that is just trash all

1067
00:52:34,453 --> 00:52:35,973
Speaker 3: the things that you need the most love to hear

1068
00:52:35,973 --> 00:52:38,333
Speaker 3: from you. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is being able

1069
00:52:38,373 --> 00:52:40,573
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1070
00:52:40,653 --> 00:52:41,692
Speaker 3: It is twenty past two.

1071
00:52:41,853 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 1: Chump Chumps, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight

1072
00:52:50,213 --> 00:52:52,653
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1073
00:52:52,773 --> 00:52:53,733
Speaker 2: Twenty two past term.

1074
00:52:53,773 --> 00:52:57,693
Speaker 3: We're talking about people who dump things outside of charity stores.

1075
00:52:58,093 --> 00:53:02,493
Speaker 2: Chumpers, we're calling them. And I was just I was

1076
00:53:02,533 --> 00:53:04,573
Speaker 2: just thinking about trying to start a campaign to stop them.

1077
00:53:04,973 --> 00:53:06,933
Speaker 2: Four hundred of fine that this woman's looking down the

1078
00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:09,172
Speaker 2: barrel of I mean caught on cc TV doing it

1079
00:53:09,613 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 2: at a Salvation Army store. But it got me thinking

1080
00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:15,173
Speaker 2: about a great, a great air that people might remember

1081
00:53:15,213 --> 00:53:20,293
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety. I was saying chumpers, jumpers, only chumps,

1082
00:53:20,293 --> 00:53:23,173
Speaker 2: the chumpers, And what I was referencing, I realized in

1083
00:53:23,213 --> 00:53:25,172
Speaker 2: the back of my mind was the ed with David

1084
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:26,773
Speaker 2: Bellamy this one here, Do you remember it?

1085
00:53:27,093 --> 00:53:28,773
Speaker 7: Old man's beard must go?

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00:53:28,893 --> 00:53:31,133
Speaker 1: And I don't mean this stuff, but this stuff is

1087
00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:34,573
Speaker 1: a lasty hollaball plant and it's smothering and killing New

1088
00:53:34,653 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 1: Zealand's native bush.

1089
00:53:36,173 --> 00:53:37,973
Speaker 20: And that is catastrophe.

1090
00:53:38,053 --> 00:53:39,733
Speaker 16: So what do you keep a lookout for?

1091
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:43,173
Speaker 1: Well, flowers like this and fruits like this, and viraines

1092
00:53:43,293 --> 00:53:44,333
Speaker 1: like this, and they can.

1093
00:53:44,173 --> 00:53:45,812
Speaker 2: Go ten meters in a year.

1094
00:53:46,173 --> 00:53:49,613
Speaker 1: Real stranglers And this one strangling this poor old cabin street.

1095
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,652
Speaker 2: A trim is not enough.

1096
00:53:51,933 --> 00:53:54,652
Speaker 5: We got to destroy it in every way we call.

1097
00:53:54,893 --> 00:53:59,652
Speaker 2: Man's beard must go. I'm a trim is not enough.

1098
00:54:00,213 --> 00:54:02,733
Speaker 2: Look at this one stranding this poor old cabbage street.

1099
00:54:03,293 --> 00:54:06,293
Speaker 2: What an e men of a man? Yeah, there you go,

1100
00:54:06,613 --> 00:54:12,573
Speaker 2: David Bellamy, are rip. Here's a text on nineteen nine two.

1101
00:54:12,613 --> 00:54:14,133
Speaker 2: I don't believe for a moment that woman did not

1102
00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:17,373
Speaker 2: know there was a sign stating donations to be left

1103
00:54:17,413 --> 00:54:20,613
Speaker 2: during closing hours. You know, dun't rubbish full stop. Having

1104
00:54:20,653 --> 00:54:22,893
Speaker 2: worked as a volunteer of a charity shop for many years.

1105
00:54:23,053 --> 00:54:25,293
Speaker 2: It's usually crap and the owners are too mean to

1106
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:27,333
Speaker 2: pay to take it to the rubbish dump, but they

1107
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:30,373
Speaker 2: expect the charity store to pay. Cleaning up the mess

1108
00:54:30,413 --> 00:54:34,733
Speaker 2: after other people have scammaged is disgusting. Yeah, good text.

1109
00:54:34,773 --> 00:54:37,373
Speaker 3: That one oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1110
00:54:37,453 --> 00:54:39,252
Speaker 3: number to call if you've worked for a charity shop.

1111
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:42,853
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you and your experiences about these jumpers.

1112
00:54:44,373 --> 00:54:46,413
Speaker 3: Should we go to the Oh yeah, there's a good text.

1113
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:48,933
Speaker 2: At Cromwell charity shops, it pays to walk the jacket

1114
00:54:49,013 --> 00:54:51,573
Speaker 2: racks and search pockets for twenty dollar notes that rich

1115
00:54:51,653 --> 00:54:55,773
Speaker 2: donators forgot in donatd clothes. Don't even buy the stuff.

1116
00:54:57,013 --> 00:55:01,093
Speaker 2: Read read mate. If you've if you find the twenty

1117
00:55:01,133 --> 00:55:04,533
Speaker 2: bucks in the pocket in the charity shop, then wouldn't

1118
00:55:04,573 --> 00:55:06,453
Speaker 2: you give that twenty bucks to the charity shop?

1119
00:55:06,493 --> 00:55:10,813
Speaker 3: You'd think, So it's not a business opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Josh, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, hey boys, So, yeah, I'm Josh. Obviously I managed

1122
00:55:18,373 --> 00:55:20,853
Speaker 21: a shop for a couple of years, a charity shop,

1123
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:27,493
Speaker 21: and yeah, we were actually, we were pretty proactive. We

1124
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:31,893
Speaker 21: first came up with the signage because one of the

1125
00:55:31,933 --> 00:55:34,172
Speaker 21: things the council told us was that if you don't

1126
00:55:34,173 --> 00:55:38,413
Speaker 21: have adequate signage, you can't really you know, you've got

1127
00:55:38,453 --> 00:55:42,453
Speaker 21: to be able to say that there's adequate signage. So

1128
00:55:42,493 --> 00:55:45,013
Speaker 21: we spent a lot on signage saying please do not

1129
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:50,613
Speaker 21: donate outside of ours and we got it anyway. But

1130
00:55:51,093 --> 00:55:54,933
Speaker 21: in the end we ended up putting CCTV in and

1131
00:55:54,973 --> 00:55:58,173
Speaker 21: what we did is we obviously had our signs already.

1132
00:55:58,813 --> 00:56:02,853
Speaker 21: If we had vehicles dropping things off that is dumping,

1133
00:56:03,453 --> 00:56:05,973
Speaker 21: we got their number plate and that's all you need.

1134
00:56:06,133 --> 00:56:11,212
Speaker 21: And we got got the old council on the red

1135
00:56:11,253 --> 00:56:15,013
Speaker 21: phone on speed doll. And what I do every sort

1136
00:56:15,053 --> 00:56:20,453
Speaker 21: of Monday afternoon is I would plow through the CCTV footage,

1137
00:56:20,853 --> 00:56:23,813
Speaker 21: get the car plates and forward all the plates. It

1138
00:56:23,933 --> 00:56:27,413
Speaker 21: did slow down after a while, but I can tell

1139
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:30,373
Speaker 21: you now that where a lot of the coughs are is.

1140
00:56:30,933 --> 00:56:34,893
Speaker 21: Could you imagine the weight of wet material, So you're

1141
00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:40,213
Speaker 21: rather talking about wet clothing and textiles or wet coutures,

1142
00:56:40,333 --> 00:56:45,133
Speaker 21: et cetera. All that extra moisture adds to that dump weight.

1143
00:56:46,053 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 21: And I'll tell you when people go through, like people

1144
00:56:50,053 --> 00:56:53,333
Speaker 21: might be genuine, they'll drop off some bags of clothes.

1145
00:56:53,373 --> 00:56:57,893
Speaker 21: It's nicely sealed. Meanwhile, you've got the CCTV footage right,

1146
00:56:57,973 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 21: and there's this dude out near at two in the morning,

1147
00:57:00,333 --> 00:57:03,293
Speaker 21: pulling all the clothes out, having a good luck grabbing

1148
00:57:03,293 --> 00:57:05,373
Speaker 21: the stuffy lights, leaving.

1149
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:06,973
Speaker 9: All the other stuff on the concrete.

1150
00:57:07,373 --> 00:57:11,253
Speaker 21: Oh and it'll take He'll take a dump before he leaves,

1151
00:57:11,773 --> 00:57:14,893
Speaker 21: you know. And it's like, come on guys. But that's

1152
00:57:14,933 --> 00:57:17,853
Speaker 21: what we did, and you don't need to curt a

1153
00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,413
Speaker 21: new law because it is dumping. Once you had that

1154
00:57:20,573 --> 00:57:24,333
Speaker 21: adequate signers that says do not leave stuff out here

1155
00:57:24,453 --> 00:57:27,893
Speaker 21: outside of ours, there's no way they can escape from

1156
00:57:27,933 --> 00:57:30,453
Speaker 21: being fined if you can get that number plate off

1157
00:57:30,493 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 21: the vehicle that they delivered it in.

1158
00:57:32,933 --> 00:57:36,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I mean. This woman that's looking

1159
00:57:36,093 --> 00:57:38,813
Speaker 2: at a forty four hundred dollars fine, that is just

1160
00:57:39,053 --> 00:57:43,213
Speaker 2: under the littering laws and the dumping laws. It's absolutely

1161
00:57:43,253 --> 00:57:45,613
Speaker 2: no difference. As you say, Josh, is just you know,

1162
00:57:45,853 --> 00:57:47,853
Speaker 2: having some rubbish in the middle of the street or

1163
00:57:47,893 --> 00:57:50,173
Speaker 2: putting it in front of a charity shop. If they

1164
00:57:50,173 --> 00:57:53,173
Speaker 2: don't want it, then then it's the same thing.

1165
00:57:53,213 --> 00:57:56,573
Speaker 21: Sorry, Josh, you get you really hope that you know, once,

1166
00:57:56,773 --> 00:58:00,013
Speaker 21: once you learn that lesson once, you don't do it again.

1167
00:58:00,133 --> 00:58:03,453
Speaker 21: But you know, I think the other on the other

1168
00:58:03,533 --> 00:58:05,613
Speaker 21: side of things, the charities don't want to be seen

1169
00:58:05,653 --> 00:58:09,773
Speaker 21: as the bad guy. Like I had to really debate

1170
00:58:09,853 --> 00:58:14,853
Speaker 21: with management to get a sign written that said specifically,

1171
00:58:15,413 --> 00:58:19,413
Speaker 21: if you leave stuff outside of ours, it's equivalent to dumping.

1172
00:58:19,733 --> 00:58:22,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had to argue that, you know, I

1173
00:58:22,573 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 3: get charities, absolutely the good guys, and they don't want

1174
00:58:25,853 --> 00:58:27,893
Speaker 3: to do anything to put people off charities, but that

1175
00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:28,413
Speaker 3: would be the.

1176
00:58:28,373 --> 00:58:30,853
Speaker 2: Bare minimum to say, just don't be an ahole.

1177
00:58:32,133 --> 00:58:38,293
Speaker 21: Yeah, And you know, in regards to truck, in regards

1178
00:58:38,293 --> 00:58:45,173
Speaker 21: to declining donations, the charity themselves should reserve the right

1179
00:58:45,293 --> 00:58:47,693
Speaker 21: to say yes or no. And I know some people

1180
00:58:48,213 --> 00:58:52,693
Speaker 21: get kind of annoyed with that, but in reality, like

1181
00:58:53,093 --> 00:58:56,333
Speaker 21: the amount of textiles that go through these places is

1182
00:58:56,573 --> 00:59:01,013
Speaker 21: fricking amazing. The amount of clothing that gets donated that

1183
00:59:01,253 --> 00:59:04,973
Speaker 21: ends up getting dumped at the cost of charity is huge.

1184
00:59:05,053 --> 00:59:11,453
Speaker 21: It's phenomenal, and there's not much else these charities can

1185
00:59:11,493 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 21: do because the textiles companies are not taking what they

1186
00:59:15,773 --> 00:59:18,453
Speaker 21: used to do anymore. They used to send it to

1187
00:59:18,493 --> 00:59:21,653
Speaker 21: the islands and stuff they're not doing. They're not doing

1188
00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:25,093
Speaker 21: so much or that anymore. So the access cloning that

1189
00:59:25,333 --> 00:59:29,533
Speaker 21: cannot be resold or used actually gets dumped. And if

1190
00:59:29,533 --> 00:59:34,493
Speaker 21: that's wet outside, it's just, oh my god, it terrible.

1191
00:59:34,733 --> 00:59:37,213
Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for your insights there, Josh. I'd say,

1192
00:59:37,213 --> 00:59:39,893
Speaker 2: if someone's donating something or bringing it into the store

1193
00:59:39,973 --> 00:59:42,933
Speaker 2: and they get annoyed when the charity shop won't take it. Yeah,

1194
00:59:42,973 --> 00:59:46,493
Speaker 2: they're not donating, they're trying to dump. You know, they're

1195
00:59:46,533 --> 00:59:48,813
Speaker 2: more than a problem for a store that's just trying

1196
00:59:48,853 --> 00:59:51,013
Speaker 2: to do good. Yeah, I mean they can't be forced

1197
00:59:51,013 --> 00:59:53,613
Speaker 2: to take your absolute rubbish. Yeah.

1198
00:59:53,653 --> 00:59:56,733
Speaker 3: Hey, I've got a question for you and everybody listening.

1199
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Speaker 3: And if you think you know the answer nine to

1200
00:59:58,613 --> 01:00:02,013
Speaker 3: ninety two? How much do you think the Salvation Army

1201
01:00:02,093 --> 01:00:05,613
Speaker 3: makes from their family stores across the country?

1202
01:00:05,693 --> 01:00:06,293
Speaker 2: An estimate?

1203
01:00:06,333 --> 01:00:07,853
Speaker 3: How much do you think they make on a yearly

1204
01:00:07,933 --> 01:00:10,493
Speaker 3: basis from their family charity stores in New Zealand the

1205
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:13,293
Speaker 3: Salvation Army? How much do I think if you want

1206
01:00:13,293 --> 01:00:15,733
Speaker 3: to write it down and give your answer, But if

1207
01:00:15,773 --> 01:00:18,573
Speaker 3: you think you know texted in nine two ninety two

1208
01:00:18,773 --> 01:00:20,253
Speaker 3: is the text number.

1209
01:00:20,093 --> 01:00:21,973
Speaker 2: Well you can mind us a million off that because

1210
01:00:22,013 --> 01:00:23,533
Speaker 2: they have to spend a whole lot of money on

1211
01:00:23,613 --> 01:00:26,253
Speaker 2: dumping it. Yeah, ye, all right, true. I'll have a

1212
01:00:26,293 --> 01:00:28,013
Speaker 2: think about that, all right. I'll give you the answer

1213
01:00:28,093 --> 01:00:28,933
Speaker 2: coming up very shortly.

1214
01:00:28,973 --> 01:00:31,853
Speaker 3: Headlines with ray Lean on their way it is bang

1215
01:00:31,893 --> 01:00:32,893
Speaker 3: on hypass.

1216
01:00:32,493 --> 01:00:35,293
Speaker 5: Too, Jews talks.

1217
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Speaker 13: They'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1218
01:00:38,813 --> 01:00:42,173
Speaker 13: with a blue bubble. The Government's told foreign investors and

1219
01:00:42,293 --> 01:00:45,933
Speaker 13: its Investments summit in Auckland it's open to tolling on

1220
01:00:46,013 --> 01:00:50,213
Speaker 13: all future roads of national significance. Labour's told the summit

1221
01:00:50,493 --> 01:00:54,333
Speaker 13: it's committed to a bipartisan approach to infrastructure projects and

1222
01:00:54,413 --> 01:00:58,093
Speaker 13: it won't cancel, pause or review projects just because the

1223
01:00:58,213 --> 01:01:02,093
Speaker 13: national government started them. The Government's confirm funding in this

1224
01:01:02,173 --> 01:01:05,773
Speaker 13: year's budget for expanding christ Church Means Prison to meet

1225
01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:10,493
Speaker 13: growing demand. Homegrown Sick Festival is underway for its eighteenth

1226
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Speaker 13: and final time on Wellington's waterfront and State Highway one.

1227
01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:19,373
Speaker 13: Desert Road has officially reopened after a two month closure

1228
01:01:19,493 --> 01:01:23,333
Speaker 13: due to road works. Why the Warriors clashed with Manly

1229
01:01:23,413 --> 01:01:26,293
Speaker 13: could define their season. You can see the full column

1230
01:01:26,293 --> 01:01:29,493
Speaker 13: from Michael Burgess at ends in Herald Premium. Back to

1231
01:01:29,533 --> 01:01:31,413
Speaker 13: Matteath and Tyler Adams.

1232
01:01:30,973 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan.

1233
01:01:32,093 --> 01:01:34,973
Speaker 3: And we're talking about those people who dump outside of

1234
01:01:35,093 --> 01:01:39,533
Speaker 3: charity stores that we have labeled chumpers. Yeah, charity dumpers,

1235
01:01:39,613 --> 01:01:42,773
Speaker 3: absolute chumpers. Now I asked before the headlines, only a

1236
01:01:42,853 --> 01:01:43,693
Speaker 3: chumper chumps.

1237
01:01:43,853 --> 01:01:45,693
Speaker 2: You're very good at there right now, I don't know.

1238
01:01:45,733 --> 01:01:47,333
Speaker 2: I need to work on my David Bellamy. I mean

1239
01:01:47,373 --> 01:01:49,493
Speaker 2: he's passed now, but it used to be an important

1240
01:01:49,493 --> 01:01:53,013
Speaker 2: part of your impersonation repertoire in New Zealand to be

1241
01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:54,093
Speaker 2: able to do a David Bellamy.

1242
01:01:54,133 --> 01:01:59,453
Speaker 3: He was practicing in the air break everybody's before the headlines.

1243
01:01:59,893 --> 01:02:03,573
Speaker 3: How much roughly do you think the Salvation Army makes

1244
01:02:03,613 --> 01:02:06,533
Speaker 3: from their family stores across New Zealand. So there's view

1245
01:02:07,213 --> 01:02:10,293
Speaker 3: guesses that have come through two for all their stores.

1246
01:02:10,373 --> 01:02:11,813
Speaker 2: Yep. Do you want to know how many stores that

1247
01:02:11,853 --> 01:02:13,693
Speaker 2: would help? Actually? Yes? How many stores? They have? One

1248
01:02:13,773 --> 01:02:16,773
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five stores across New Zealand. Wow, they

1249
01:02:16,853 --> 01:02:18,413
Speaker 2: must be one of our biggest retailers.

1250
01:02:18,493 --> 01:02:20,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well they must be out there. Yeah, so

1251
01:02:21,173 --> 01:02:22,733
Speaker 3: you wrote down your answer, what do you reckon?

1252
01:02:23,613 --> 01:02:27,413
Speaker 2: I reckon forty million? Forty million?

1253
01:02:27,733 --> 01:02:28,093
Speaker 4: About it?

1254
01:02:29,213 --> 01:02:32,813
Speaker 3: More right, there's a couple of guesses coming through here.

1255
01:02:32,853 --> 01:02:36,253
Speaker 3: Eleven point two million, very specific, but way more than that. Hi,

1256
01:02:36,373 --> 01:02:39,773
Speaker 3: Tony here, the Salvation Army around two hundred and thirty

1257
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:42,613
Speaker 3: nine million, two hundred and fifty four thousand a year.

1258
01:02:43,773 --> 01:02:46,653
Speaker 2: Well, we are a little bit of my Tony specific

1259
01:02:47,933 --> 01:02:51,453
Speaker 2: specific one eleven point two millions? Is this person two

1260
01:02:51,493 --> 01:02:52,733
Speaker 2: million a year? Two million?

1261
01:02:52,773 --> 01:02:52,893
Speaker 22: Off?

1262
01:02:53,413 --> 01:02:53,693
Speaker 9: Over?

1263
01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:55,933
Speaker 2: How many shops are there one hundred and one hundred

1264
01:02:55,933 --> 01:02:59,573
Speaker 2: and thirty five That would be that bit more return.

1265
01:03:00,653 --> 01:03:03,493
Speaker 2: Fifteen million salies make from the stores, right six, what

1266
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:03,773
Speaker 2: is it?

1267
01:03:03,853 --> 01:03:07,213
Speaker 3: So here's the answer. So Salvation Army Family store regional

1268
01:03:07,213 --> 01:03:10,973
Speaker 3: consultant Nigel Water estimated they make collectively about one hundred

1269
01:03:10,973 --> 01:03:12,253
Speaker 3: and fifty million.

1270
01:03:11,933 --> 01:03:13,933
Speaker 2: Per year in New Zealand. They're gross.

1271
01:03:14,373 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 3: Well that is based on the turnover across its turnover

1272
01:03:17,053 --> 01:03:18,853
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five stores nationwide.

1273
01:03:18,893 --> 01:03:20,573
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that's not bad.

1274
01:03:20,653 --> 01:03:23,973
Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty two that turnover rose by twenty percent,

1275
01:03:24,093 --> 01:03:27,013
Speaker 3: so the charity stores were having quite a good year

1276
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:29,573
Speaker 3: that year. But then you minus the million dollars plus

1277
01:03:29,573 --> 01:03:32,173
Speaker 3: that they have to spend on dealing with these dirty

1278
01:03:32,173 --> 01:03:32,733
Speaker 3: old chumpers.

1279
01:03:32,853 --> 01:03:35,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, and another text here says that twenty percent of

1280
01:03:35,733 --> 01:03:40,653
Speaker 2: everything is stolen from Salvation Army stores. Oh, it just

1281
01:03:40,693 --> 01:03:42,893
Speaker 2: gets worse and worse, doesn't it give the woman the

1282
01:03:42,893 --> 01:03:45,013
Speaker 2: option of paying the fine or working at a charity

1283
01:03:45,013 --> 01:03:48,133
Speaker 2: store in a Monday sorting and clearing the craf leftover

1284
01:03:48,533 --> 01:03:51,933
Speaker 2: the weekend and covered in urine is a good punishment

1285
01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:54,653
Speaker 2: urine and worse. So you know this story is on

1286
01:03:54,693 --> 01:03:58,933
Speaker 2: the back of a woman who was caught on CCTV

1287
01:03:59,613 --> 01:04:06,173
Speaker 2: making a donation when the store was closed, but the

1288
01:04:06,173 --> 01:04:09,333
Speaker 2: the council, the Auckland Council saw it as dumping and

1289
01:04:09,373 --> 01:04:11,253
Speaker 2: not a donation at all, because it wasn't when the

1290
01:04:11,253 --> 01:04:12,813
Speaker 2: store is opened and you don't know if they want

1291
01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:14,573
Speaker 2: them and they don't want the stuff or not. Yeah,

1292
01:04:14,613 --> 01:04:16,973
Speaker 2: so she's facing four hundred dollars, so yeah, give her

1293
01:04:17,013 --> 01:04:19,773
Speaker 2: a job dealing with your own soak clothes on a

1294
01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:23,453
Speaker 2: Monday morning. I think she'd probably play the four.

1295
01:04:23,293 --> 01:04:26,053
Speaker 3: Hundred absolutely oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighties and number.

1296
01:04:26,173 --> 01:04:28,093
Speaker 3: Call esh, how are you this afternoon?

1297
01:04:29,653 --> 01:04:32,093
Speaker 2: Good mate, good, very good?

1298
01:04:32,373 --> 01:04:34,853
Speaker 3: So what are you reckon about these people who dump

1299
01:04:34,853 --> 01:04:36,213
Speaker 3: outside of these charity stores?

1300
01:04:38,853 --> 01:04:41,093
Speaker 11: Do they have any other option? The problem is that,

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01:04:41,133 --> 01:04:44,333
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm talking about myself. Both of us walk.

1302
01:04:44,853 --> 01:04:48,573
Speaker 11: We do all cleanup and walk at home over the weekend,

1303
01:04:49,053 --> 01:04:51,333
Speaker 11: but when we go out to donate the stincs over

1304
01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:53,133
Speaker 11: the weekend, after you've done a bit of a cleanup,

1305
01:04:53,573 --> 01:04:57,773
Speaker 11: they're always closed. So there's no other option.

1306
01:04:57,653 --> 01:04:59,293
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well, well, I mean.

1307
01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:03,093
Speaker 11: We end up throwing can I finish? We end up

1308
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:09,093
Speaker 11: throwing things in the council recycles, uh, places that could

1309
01:05:09,093 --> 01:05:15,253
Speaker 11: be very easily reused by people, right if if they

1310
01:05:15,413 --> 01:05:18,013
Speaker 11: plan out themselves and like maybe close on a Monday

1311
01:05:18,013 --> 01:05:21,053
Speaker 11: and open all day Sturday or a Sunday where people

1312
01:05:21,053 --> 01:05:23,093
Speaker 11: can come and drop these things and they can check

1313
01:05:23,493 --> 01:05:26,053
Speaker 11: and see what is good for them to keep and

1314
01:05:26,453 --> 01:05:29,933
Speaker 11: retain the others, that will probably help. Yeah, But in

1315
01:05:30,053 --> 01:05:32,573
Speaker 11: saying that, all the other stuff that they another lady

1316
01:05:32,573 --> 01:05:37,813
Speaker 11: said that they use about a million dollars to dump stuff. Yeah,

1317
01:05:38,133 --> 01:05:43,013
Speaker 11: pay their side of the play their game and give

1318
01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 11: that I mean give people discount, right or no, don't

1319
01:05:46,533 --> 01:05:49,973
Speaker 11: charge them for it because they are a charitable organization.

1320
01:05:50,573 --> 01:05:55,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess even though yeah, yeah, I see

1321
01:05:55,093 --> 01:05:57,453
Speaker 2: what you're saying it, I guess they would say the

1322
01:05:57,533 --> 01:06:00,053
Speaker 2: charity stores is that they work with people that are

1323
01:06:00,133 --> 01:06:04,413
Speaker 2: volunteering their time, so they might just have have trouble

1324
01:06:04,573 --> 01:06:08,573
Speaker 2: with uh, you know, running it seven days away so

1325
01:06:08,613 --> 01:06:11,453
Speaker 2: people can drop off. But also it seems ash that

1326
01:06:11,853 --> 01:06:13,933
Speaker 2: a lot of these dumpings happen in the middle of

1327
01:06:13,973 --> 01:06:16,973
Speaker 2: the night, so they're not good people like you that

1328
01:06:17,053 --> 01:06:19,933
Speaker 2: are actually looking for an opportunity. So it'd be fantastic

1329
01:06:19,933 --> 01:06:22,093
Speaker 2: if they were open for you. But I think what's

1330
01:06:22,133 --> 01:06:25,693
Speaker 2: happening actually is people are just dumping it and looking

1331
01:06:25,693 --> 01:06:29,053
Speaker 2: for and looking for when the shop is closed so

1332
01:06:29,133 --> 01:06:30,853
Speaker 2: they can dump it to get rid of their stuff.

1333
01:06:30,853 --> 01:06:32,933
Speaker 2: If you're what I'm saying, I do not disagree.

1334
01:06:33,013 --> 01:06:34,853
Speaker 11: Yeah, I do not disagree. There are people like that,

1335
01:06:35,373 --> 01:06:38,973
Speaker 11: but probably thirty percent of the people people just don't

1336
01:06:39,013 --> 01:06:42,853
Speaker 11: bother going there anymore giving things to them to resell

1337
01:06:43,053 --> 01:06:46,013
Speaker 11: or reuse or whatever because of the difficulty of actually

1338
01:06:46,053 --> 01:06:47,533
Speaker 11: getting in there to give.

1339
01:06:47,373 --> 01:06:50,533
Speaker 2: It to them. Yeah. But yeah, well just just quickly ash.

1340
01:06:50,613 --> 01:06:52,693
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I get your point, but isn't the

1341
01:06:52,733 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 3: point of giving to a charity shop is you know

1342
01:06:56,053 --> 01:06:58,413
Speaker 3: they are doing good for the community, so you kind

1343
01:06:58,413 --> 01:07:00,133
Speaker 3: of go out of your way to help them out

1344
01:07:00,133 --> 01:07:02,213
Speaker 3: as well. And it might be a pain, but if

1345
01:07:02,253 --> 01:07:04,413
Speaker 3: you go in your weekend, you know it's up to

1346
01:07:04,493 --> 01:07:07,893
Speaker 3: you to be a bit charitable to the charity shops

1347
01:07:07,933 --> 01:07:10,053
Speaker 3: as and you giving some time to go down on

1348
01:07:10,093 --> 01:07:13,613
Speaker 3: the weekend and giving your stuff.

1349
01:07:13,493 --> 01:07:15,653
Speaker 11: If they're opening the weekend, yes I'm willing to do that.

1350
01:07:15,973 --> 01:07:19,013
Speaker 11: But even even if they open a little bit later,

1351
01:07:19,173 --> 01:07:21,413
Speaker 11: like open at ten o'clock and open till six thirty

1352
01:07:21,493 --> 01:07:25,493
Speaker 11: or seven o'clock, then we work for walking people, right, Yeah.

1353
01:07:25,173 --> 01:07:27,973
Speaker 2: Well think if you're cool, Ash, Yeah, I mean I

1354
01:07:28,013 --> 01:07:30,493
Speaker 2: see most charity shops open on Saturdays, though, aren't they?

1355
01:07:30,533 --> 01:07:30,773
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1356
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:33,413
Speaker 2: Saturday morning at the very least, so that I guess

1357
01:07:33,413 --> 01:07:34,773
Speaker 2: that's a good time if you work all week. If

1358
01:07:34,773 --> 01:07:38,573
Speaker 2: you're a hard working person like Ash and you can't

1359
01:07:38,613 --> 01:07:41,013
Speaker 2: get in, then I think most of them open and Saturdays.

1360
01:07:41,013 --> 01:07:44,213
Speaker 2: That could be wrong, actually, but e one hundred and

1361
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:46,373
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty if you know, But I feel like I

1362
01:07:46,413 --> 01:07:51,293
Speaker 2: see the savs open on Saturdays. Yeah.

1363
01:07:51,413 --> 01:07:53,253
Speaker 3: We'll try and find out some information on some of

1364
01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:56,453
Speaker 3: the local Salvation armies on when they are open. But

1365
01:07:56,653 --> 01:07:58,373
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

1366
01:07:58,493 --> 01:08:02,293
Speaker 2: Call Rose. Your thoughts on this chumping business.

1367
01:08:02,893 --> 01:08:06,493
Speaker 23: Well, I'm not a chumper, guys, but three things and Friday,

1368
01:08:06,653 --> 01:08:11,053
Speaker 23: three teens, there's a lot of chumping going on in town.

1369
01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:15,213
Speaker 23: I don't want to even say our town. But this

1370
01:08:15,533 --> 01:08:19,333
Speaker 23: chick was going through the clothes before they even get

1371
01:08:19,452 --> 01:08:24,813
Speaker 23: got to the shop. She was on CT camera and

1372
01:08:25,173 --> 01:08:27,813
Speaker 23: got so bad that she's in jail now.

1373
01:08:28,492 --> 01:08:29,772
Speaker 2: She'll been to jail for chumping.

1374
01:08:31,133 --> 01:08:32,173
Speaker 21: Yep.

1375
01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,372
Speaker 3: Wow, how much chumping do you need to do to

1376
01:08:34,492 --> 01:08:39,693
Speaker 3: get jail? Time, she had leeks and prolific.

1377
01:08:40,492 --> 01:08:43,732
Speaker 2: Well, so she went to Dale for stealing stuff that

1378
01:08:43,812 --> 01:08:47,333
Speaker 2: other people had donated to a charity shop out of hours.

1379
01:08:47,893 --> 01:08:50,892
Speaker 23: Is that what you're saying, right, yeah, among a couple

1380
01:08:50,933 --> 01:08:53,813
Speaker 23: of other things. She used to go uptown and steal.

1381
01:08:53,572 --> 01:08:58,572
Speaker 2: Bikesh right yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yep, so she was.

1382
01:08:58,572 --> 01:09:00,213
Speaker 2: There was a number of crimes being committed. One of

1383
01:09:00,213 --> 01:09:03,412
Speaker 2: them was chumping. Yeah, and the race was just general feverite.

1384
01:09:04,612 --> 01:09:07,372
Speaker 2: Just sounds like a generally crap person, yeah yeah, and

1385
01:09:07,692 --> 01:09:09,612
Speaker 2: a chumper on. But there you go.

1386
01:09:09,732 --> 01:09:12,852
Speaker 3: I mean, whether this particular woman who's facing the four

1387
01:09:12,893 --> 01:09:14,892
Speaker 3: hundred dollar fine deserves jail time, I don't know if

1388
01:09:14,893 --> 01:09:16,093
Speaker 3: it's quite to that level yet.

1389
01:09:16,333 --> 01:09:21,092
Speaker 2: Hard labor was that hard labor, hard labor breaking rocks. Actually,

1390
01:09:21,133 --> 01:09:23,692
Speaker 2: I do like the idea of making her work on

1391
01:09:23,692 --> 01:09:26,652
Speaker 2: a Monday morning and clean up all your own state quotes.

1392
01:09:26,772 --> 01:09:29,372
Speaker 2: That is a fear punishment, genuinely fear punishment. Thank you

1393
01:09:29,412 --> 01:09:31,612
Speaker 2: so much for your call, Rose, really appreciate it. Yeah.

1394
01:09:31,652 --> 01:09:34,012
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1395
01:09:34,013 --> 01:09:35,612
Speaker 3: to call if you want to send a text message

1396
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:37,732
Speaker 3: more than welcome. Nine two ninety two is that number?

1397
01:09:37,853 --> 01:09:40,452
Speaker 2: We've actually got a couple of texts here that's come

1398
01:09:40,492 --> 01:09:43,692
Speaker 2: through on nine two nine two supporting chumping, which is

1399
01:09:43,772 --> 01:09:46,612
Speaker 2: charity dumping. By the way, we've just made up that

1400
01:09:46,692 --> 01:09:48,973
Speaker 2: term today, chumping. Charity dumping. We're going to catch on

1401
01:09:49,213 --> 01:09:51,093
Speaker 2: when you just dump your stuff out the front of

1402
01:09:51,093 --> 01:09:53,692
Speaker 2: a charity store when they're not open, and generally it's

1403
01:09:53,692 --> 01:09:56,532
Speaker 2: stuff that they don't want. So there's some people that

1404
01:09:56,853 --> 01:09:59,253
Speaker 2: support chumping. This is going to be good. There's someone

1405
01:09:59,253 --> 01:10:02,333
Speaker 2: that supports everything. There's eighteen to three.

1406
01:10:03,173 --> 01:10:05,612
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1407
01:10:05,652 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 5: along the way.

1408
01:10:06,492 --> 01:10:10,452
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons, the Volvo x N eighty Innovation,

1409
01:10:10,652 --> 01:10:13,333
Speaker 1: Style and Design have it all us talk.

1410
01:10:13,213 --> 01:10:16,452
Speaker 3: Said, be good afternoon. It is quarter three now we've

1411
01:10:16,452 --> 01:10:18,772
Speaker 3: been talking about chumpers. That is a term that we

1412
01:10:18,853 --> 01:10:21,692
Speaker 3: have made up here at the Afternoon Show, but it

1413
01:10:21,812 --> 01:10:27,213
Speaker 3: means charity dumpers, and it appears there are some people

1414
01:10:27,213 --> 01:10:28,932
Speaker 3: out there who are in favor of chumping.

1415
01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:29,213
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1416
01:10:29,213 --> 01:10:31,333
Speaker 2: So charity dumping, just to make it clear, is when

1417
01:10:31,412 --> 01:10:35,253
Speaker 2: you go after our hours and you dump your donations

1418
01:10:35,612 --> 01:10:37,732
Speaker 2: out the front of the store, not knowing whether they

1419
01:10:37,772 --> 01:10:39,213
Speaker 2: want to take it or not. Rather than taking it

1420
01:10:39,253 --> 01:10:40,892
Speaker 2: when they're open so they can pick and choose what

1421
01:10:40,893 --> 01:10:45,852
Speaker 2: they want. It's it's a fine line between donations and

1422
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:47,933
Speaker 2: just dumping your crap for someone else to deal with it.

1423
01:10:48,612 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 2: This text here takes issue. Oh no with my opinion

1424
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:55,692
Speaker 2: on this. Yeap, what a load of crap, says this

1425
01:10:55,772 --> 01:10:59,372
Speaker 2: textra on nine two nine two. You guys are fascists. Wow.

1426
01:11:00,053 --> 01:11:02,892
Speaker 2: Charity shops should be grateful they get anything. They don't

1427
01:11:02,893 --> 01:11:04,972
Speaker 2: get to pick and choose. If you are selling free

1428
01:11:05,013 --> 01:11:06,893
Speaker 2: stuff like they do, suck it up and take this

1429
01:11:06,973 --> 01:11:09,812
Speaker 2: stuff you don't want to dump. I will continue to

1430
01:11:09,853 --> 01:11:15,572
Speaker 2: drop my donations off whenever I want pathetic from you. Also,

1431
01:11:15,732 --> 01:11:18,333
Speaker 2: I'm sick of Matt saying he wants to taser people

1432
01:11:18,372 --> 01:11:21,213
Speaker 2: for every little crime. You really think someone dropping off

1433
01:11:21,253 --> 01:11:24,412
Speaker 2: clothes should be tasered? Fascist? Wow?

1434
01:11:25,013 --> 01:11:28,133
Speaker 3: Well I disagree on ninety nine percent of that, But

1435
01:11:28,173 --> 01:11:30,133
Speaker 3: you do love tasers all of a sudden, you really

1436
01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:31,253
Speaker 3: really love dases.

1437
01:11:31,532 --> 01:11:34,293
Speaker 2: It's a metaphor. I don't actually, I don't actually think

1438
01:11:34,293 --> 01:11:35,572
Speaker 2: that this woman should be days it.

1439
01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:37,892
Speaker 3: But to the rest of what that Texas said, you're

1440
01:11:37,893 --> 01:11:42,532
Speaker 3: a bad person. You're a bad, bad New Zealander, Sharon,

1441
01:11:42,572 --> 01:11:43,173
Speaker 3: How are you this.

1442
01:11:43,093 --> 01:11:45,973
Speaker 16: Afternoon, Good afternoon, good, thank you.

1443
01:11:46,412 --> 01:11:49,293
Speaker 2: Now what's your take on the charity dumping?

1444
01:11:50,652 --> 01:11:53,213
Speaker 16: Well? As the manager of an up shop, I've been

1445
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:55,213
Speaker 16: following this thread very interestingly.

1446
01:11:55,532 --> 01:11:57,372
Speaker 2: Oh good, You're the perfect person to talk to.

1447
01:11:57,853 --> 01:12:00,333
Speaker 16: I definitely have a lot to say, but I won't

1448
01:12:00,532 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 16: keep you too much on the air. We get illegal

1449
01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:09,972
Speaker 16: dumping on a quite a regular basis after hours, so

1450
01:12:10,053 --> 01:12:13,452
Speaker 16: our shop is open Monday to Friday nine am two

1451
01:12:13,572 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 16: four pm. We're open on Saturday from nine to one,

1452
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:21,652
Speaker 16: so plenty of time. I disagree with ash saying that

1453
01:12:21,692 --> 01:12:24,572
Speaker 16: we should say open longest to accommodate those who want

1454
01:12:24,572 --> 01:12:28,133
Speaker 16: to bring their stuff. We feel if you can't bring

1455
01:12:28,173 --> 01:12:30,692
Speaker 16: it in those times, you know, have a family member

1456
01:12:30,692 --> 01:12:34,772
Speaker 16: bring it. I have issued Auckland Council fines at four

1457
01:12:34,853 --> 01:12:39,213
Speaker 16: hundred dollars apiece for illegal dumping. Just this morning I

1458
01:12:39,293 --> 01:12:42,253
Speaker 16: came to work and watched my CCTV footage and there

1459
01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:45,333
Speaker 16: was another illegal dump at quarter past three in the afternoon.

1460
01:12:45,772 --> 01:12:48,773
Speaker 16: What was it quarter past three in the morning, My apologies,

1461
01:12:48,853 --> 01:12:50,132
Speaker 16: quarter past three in the morning.

1462
01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:51,932
Speaker 2: What was that dumping, Sharon?

1463
01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:56,892
Speaker 16: That was rubbish, soiled, dirty, smelly, stinking clothing that I

1464
01:12:56,933 --> 01:12:59,652
Speaker 16: had to put in my skip bin and we have

1465
01:12:59,812 --> 01:13:03,213
Speaker 16: to pay you know, JJ Richards bless their hearts to

1466
01:13:03,253 --> 01:13:05,812
Speaker 16: pick up our skippin for the rubbish. I have three

1467
01:13:05,853 --> 01:13:11,572
Speaker 16: skippins on my property to accommodate the illegal dumping. Yeah,

1468
01:13:12,093 --> 01:13:14,732
Speaker 16: and if it's not sellable enough to go into the shop,

1469
01:13:14,772 --> 01:13:17,013
Speaker 16: it has to go into a skip bin. And I'm

1470
01:13:17,053 --> 01:13:19,572
Speaker 16: sure lots of op shops have skip bins on their property.

1471
01:13:20,652 --> 01:13:24,492
Speaker 16: That's also another down for that's for another conversation, because

1472
01:13:24,532 --> 01:13:27,692
Speaker 16: I get my bins broken into oh Man where they

1473
01:13:27,732 --> 01:13:31,452
Speaker 16: pull out our rubbish and leave a huge, big mess.

1474
01:13:32,572 --> 01:13:36,932
Speaker 16: And because we are on private property, council doesn't really

1475
01:13:37,013 --> 01:13:39,253
Speaker 16: look to us very favorably, so we have to deal

1476
01:13:39,293 --> 01:13:41,652
Speaker 16: with the rubbish because you're on private property.

1477
01:13:42,293 --> 01:13:45,452
Speaker 2: This is charity stores that are doing good in the

1478
01:13:45,452 --> 01:13:47,572
Speaker 2: community and you guys are under sea.

1479
01:13:48,692 --> 01:13:53,732
Speaker 16: Yep. Absolutely, we are a church run op shop. I

1480
01:13:53,772 --> 01:13:57,973
Speaker 16: have eighty two volunteers, so that is amazing. But I

1481
01:13:58,013 --> 01:14:00,572
Speaker 16: don't expect my eighty year olds to be having to

1482
01:14:01,053 --> 01:14:06,892
Speaker 16: haul dirty, smelly, broken shoes, dirty nappy soiled clothing into

1483
01:14:06,933 --> 01:14:09,532
Speaker 16: a skippin at nine o'clock in the morning, or to

1484
01:14:09,612 --> 01:14:12,253
Speaker 16: clear the front of my shop so we can start

1485
01:14:12,293 --> 01:14:16,532
Speaker 16: our day because they've done their goods and they're claiming

1486
01:14:16,612 --> 01:14:19,812
Speaker 16: most of them claim that, oh, they couldn't come at

1487
01:14:19,853 --> 01:14:23,732
Speaker 16: another time. Well, I'm sorry, it's still it's after hours.

1488
01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:26,772
Speaker 16: You wouldn't be dumping your stuff outside Farmers, would you,

1489
01:14:27,013 --> 01:14:29,173
Speaker 16: or Bunnings or any other shop in town. Well, you

1490
01:14:29,213 --> 01:14:31,173
Speaker 16: can't start dumping it outside my shop.

1491
01:14:31,293 --> 01:14:33,333
Speaker 2: You can't stay for twenty four to seven just for

1492
01:14:33,412 --> 01:14:34,812
Speaker 2: when people want to dine, And.

1493
01:14:35,173 --> 01:14:39,492
Speaker 16: Exactly I cannot accommodate those people. I respect those that

1494
01:14:39,572 --> 01:14:42,612
Speaker 16: have to work till five and there is no way

1495
01:14:42,652 --> 01:14:45,333
Speaker 16: to get their goods to us. But we are open

1496
01:14:45,412 --> 01:14:49,572
Speaker 16: Saturday till one. We are open every day except for winners,

1497
01:14:49,692 --> 01:14:53,612
Speaker 16: except for Sundays and Sat three holidays. Every other day

1498
01:14:53,692 --> 01:14:55,092
Speaker 16: on the calendar we are open.

1499
01:14:55,412 --> 01:14:58,492
Speaker 3: How do you I mean, Well, obviously your staff would

1500
01:14:58,492 --> 01:15:01,093
Speaker 3: be absolutely heartbroken by this behavior. As you say, eighty

1501
01:15:01,173 --> 01:15:03,093
Speaker 3: year olds or people who just want to come and

1502
01:15:03,173 --> 01:15:05,932
Speaker 3: volunteer and do good in the community and lose faith

1503
01:15:05,973 --> 01:15:06,572
Speaker 3: in humanity.

1504
01:15:06,612 --> 01:15:07,652
Speaker 2: I imagine seeing this stuff.

1505
01:15:07,692 --> 01:15:11,333
Speaker 16: If absolutely we give away. Last year we gave away

1506
01:15:11,412 --> 01:15:15,813
Speaker 16: sixty thousand dollars to the community, and which is amazing.

1507
01:15:16,293 --> 01:15:18,452
Speaker 16: But if we have to pay, you know, so much

1508
01:15:18,492 --> 01:15:20,852
Speaker 16: in dump fees. That just cuts into the money we're

1509
01:15:20,853 --> 01:15:22,852
Speaker 16: giving back to the community. If we have to pay

1510
01:15:23,293 --> 01:15:26,213
Speaker 16: to the skip then's picked up. Or if they dump

1511
01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:29,333
Speaker 16: an old sofa on our back door step, we can't

1512
01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:31,772
Speaker 16: sell it, so we have to pay the dump fee

1513
01:15:31,812 --> 01:15:33,532
Speaker 16: to have it taken up to the local dump.

1514
01:15:34,253 --> 01:15:35,253
Speaker 2: It's come of them.

1515
01:15:35,372 --> 01:15:36,732
Speaker 4: So yeah, there is.

1516
01:15:36,853 --> 01:15:38,932
Speaker 16: Differently two sides to the story. Yep.

1517
01:15:39,053 --> 01:15:41,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, wells and see what you say about opening hours,

1518
01:15:41,692 --> 01:15:43,812
Speaker 2: because this tech sum that sums it up quite nicely

1519
01:15:43,853 --> 01:15:45,812
Speaker 2: on nineteen nine two. If you're dumping at three am,

1520
01:15:45,933 --> 01:15:46,692
Speaker 2: you know it's crap.

1521
01:15:46,772 --> 01:15:50,133
Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. And I've been I've been a manager of

1522
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:53,732
Speaker 16: the shop coming up nine years and ninety percent of

1523
01:15:53,812 --> 01:15:57,093
Speaker 16: the time the stuff that's dumped at three am and

1524
01:15:57,133 --> 01:16:00,772
Speaker 16: one am is for the skippin. Yeah, and that's why

1525
01:16:00,772 --> 01:16:02,852
Speaker 16: they do it. They're bring in at that time because

1526
01:16:02,853 --> 01:16:05,293
Speaker 16: they're too embarrassed by it, or they know if they

1527
01:16:05,333 --> 01:16:07,652
Speaker 16: turn up at nine o'clock, I'll to tell them no

1528
01:16:07,732 --> 01:16:11,013
Speaker 16: because it's right. So nine times out of ten, if

1529
01:16:11,013 --> 01:16:14,173
Speaker 16: they're bringing it after hours, sorry, it is crap.

1530
01:16:14,372 --> 01:16:16,932
Speaker 2: Yeah. Think you for your call, Sharon, Yeah, I mean

1531
01:16:16,973 --> 01:16:20,213
Speaker 2: you're not. That's the mindset of it. So if you're

1532
01:16:20,253 --> 01:16:23,852
Speaker 2: bringing it after hours and it's crap, then don't hid yourself.

1533
01:16:24,213 --> 01:16:27,772
Speaker 2: All you're doing is making your mess someone else's problem.

1534
01:16:28,053 --> 01:16:30,692
Speaker 2: And the person who you're making it someone the people

1535
01:16:30,692 --> 01:16:33,213
Speaker 2: that you're that you're making it their problem, are people

1536
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:36,173
Speaker 2: that are trying to do good. They're trying to do charity,

1537
01:16:36,173 --> 01:16:38,852
Speaker 2: the charity shops. So you are bad person, and you

1538
01:16:39,572 --> 01:16:41,692
Speaker 2: are a bad person and the dead of the night.

1539
01:16:41,772 --> 01:16:43,333
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just cowardly.

1540
01:16:43,572 --> 01:16:45,572
Speaker 3: And I said before that I thought taser was a

1541
01:16:45,612 --> 01:16:47,532
Speaker 3: little bit too far from you, but I've changed my

1542
01:16:47,572 --> 01:16:48,972
Speaker 3: mind and bring it to dasers.

1543
01:16:49,173 --> 01:16:50,012
Speaker 2: That is crazy.

1544
01:16:50,572 --> 01:16:54,652
Speaker 3: Oh it had highly you fascist. Eight is a number

1545
01:16:54,692 --> 01:16:57,133
Speaker 3: to call. It is nine to three.

1546
01:16:57,452 --> 01:16:59,892
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1547
01:16:59,933 --> 01:17:01,973
Speaker 5: along the way. Matt and Taylor.

1548
01:17:01,692 --> 01:17:05,972
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty innovation, style and design.

1549
01:17:06,093 --> 01:17:07,972
Speaker 5: Have it all you, Salk said.

1550
01:17:07,732 --> 01:17:11,492
Speaker 2: Be News talks it be it is six to three.

1551
01:17:12,053 --> 01:17:12,293
Speaker 5: Max.

1552
01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:13,133
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you.

1553
01:17:14,372 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 24: Oh, good afternoon guys. Our first time I'll run is here.

1554
01:17:18,412 --> 01:17:21,372
Speaker 2: Listen to you a lot though, Thank you for that

1555
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:22,293
Speaker 2: and thank you for ringing.

1556
01:17:23,213 --> 01:17:23,452
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1557
01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:25,372
Speaker 24: I just got in the car and I heard the

1558
01:17:25,452 --> 01:17:28,692
Speaker 24: tail end of somebody get in a fine for dumping.

1559
01:17:28,893 --> 01:17:32,973
Speaker 24: Some do nations or rubbish.

1560
01:17:32,492 --> 01:17:37,972
Speaker 2: Office right yeah, yeah, chumping as we're calling it charity jumping. Dumping.

1561
01:17:39,173 --> 01:17:42,213
Speaker 24: Yeah, I've seen of some people I do voluntary and

1562
01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:47,333
Speaker 24: the second in shops and we don't actually take those

1563
01:17:47,452 --> 01:17:50,452
Speaker 24: nations where we are and people get angry at that.

1564
01:17:51,213 --> 01:17:53,532
Speaker 24: But the thing is we don't have a lot of

1565
01:17:53,572 --> 01:17:59,092
Speaker 24: faith all the time. We do have a store rooms

1566
01:17:59,532 --> 01:18:04,333
Speaker 24: down and GEI that we're and tim newer, and people

1567
01:18:04,973 --> 01:18:08,692
Speaker 24: still bring a lot of stuff along the actually dumpers.

1568
01:18:08,853 --> 01:18:11,452
Speaker 3: Right, And so the store that you've got you don't

1569
01:18:11,492 --> 01:18:14,452
Speaker 3: take donations, but you've got a an HQ that would

1570
01:18:14,452 --> 01:18:16,133
Speaker 3: and then feed them back to you if they're good.

1571
01:18:16,173 --> 01:18:17,333
Speaker 2: Is they were better?

1572
01:18:17,492 --> 01:18:17,932
Speaker 12: Correct?

1573
01:18:18,053 --> 01:18:21,772
Speaker 24: All of our staff for all of our shops around Auckland.

1574
01:18:22,652 --> 01:18:26,932
Speaker 12: Everything goes to our main store and room. They go

1575
01:18:27,093 --> 01:18:32,092
Speaker 12: everything through everything, they kick everything's works before they actually

1576
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 12: bring it to the stores.

1577
01:18:33,612 --> 01:18:35,692
Speaker 2: And so people get angry at you if you tell

1578
01:18:35,732 --> 01:18:38,612
Speaker 2: them that we don't take donations, we can't take your crap.

1579
01:18:38,732 --> 01:18:39,612
Speaker 2: They get angry at you.

1580
01:18:39,732 --> 01:18:42,293
Speaker 24: Sometimes they do and we send them across the road

1581
01:18:42,372 --> 01:18:45,213
Speaker 24: to the other shop when they're going to say the same.

1582
01:18:45,452 --> 01:18:47,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. For your call. Max.

1583
01:18:48,093 --> 01:18:50,532
Speaker 3: If you get angry at the charity stop workers because

1584
01:18:50,532 --> 01:18:51,972
Speaker 3: you can't give them your crap, then.

1585
01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:54,492
Speaker 2: You're a person. You're a bad person. You're not donating

1586
01:18:54,572 --> 01:18:58,173
Speaker 2: at that point. This is coming from you're trying to enforce.

1587
01:18:58,333 --> 01:19:00,772
Speaker 2: You're trying to force them and turning themselves into a

1588
01:19:00,812 --> 01:19:02,253
Speaker 2: rubbis dump. That's what you're trying to do.

1589
01:19:02,412 --> 01:19:05,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, we'll wrap this one up.

1590
01:19:05,612 --> 01:19:07,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, actually I've got the story. There's a lot

1591
01:19:07,853 --> 01:19:10,293
Speaker 2: of people talking about clothing bans, but I saw the

1592
01:19:10,333 --> 01:19:12,732
Speaker 2: most horrific thing happening in a clothing ban and I

1593
01:19:12,933 --> 01:19:14,732
Speaker 2: have to share this, but we don't have time now,

1594
01:19:14,772 --> 01:19:17,092
Speaker 2: so so i'll share it after we've had the news.

1595
01:19:17,652 --> 01:19:19,932
Speaker 2: Very good, shocking thing that happened to my mate, Grubby

1596
01:19:20,013 --> 01:19:21,173
Speaker 2: and a clothing bin.

1597
01:19:21,372 --> 01:19:23,732
Speaker 3: Right, this is going to be good, and as we've mentioned,

1598
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:26,532
Speaker 3: we've called it chumpers. But thank you very much for

1599
01:19:26,572 --> 01:19:30,012
Speaker 3: all your text and phone calls on this one. New

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01:19:30,093 --> 01:19:32,532
Speaker 3: Sport and Weather on its Way. Great to have you

1601
01:19:32,572 --> 01:19:36,013
Speaker 3: accompany this afternoon. You're listening to Matt and Tyler, New

1602
01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:37,612
Speaker 3: Sport and Weather on its Way.

1603
01:19:38,253 --> 01:19:39,732
Speaker 2: Oh Man's must go.

1604
01:19:45,053 --> 01:19:52,972
Speaker 5: In don tonight. I need the fun things lone Man

1605
01:19:53,173 --> 01:20:03,092
Speaker 5: where I go. It's over time.

1606
01:20:02,973 --> 01:20:07,372
Speaker 1: Your new home are insightful and entertaining talk It's Mattie

1607
01:20:07,412 --> 01:20:11,412
Speaker 1: and Tyler Adam Afternoons with the Volvo x eight on

1608
01:20:11,572 --> 01:20:12,293
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1609
01:20:13,293 --> 01:20:16,652
Speaker 3: After no Welcome back into the show Friday afternoon, six

1610
01:20:16,732 --> 01:20:19,892
Speaker 3: PAS three Happy Hour if you will. Now, before we

1611
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:22,692
Speaker 3: move on to our next topic, Oh.

1612
01:20:22,652 --> 01:20:25,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I had to share the story because

1613
01:20:25,692 --> 01:20:27,852
Speaker 2: we were talking about chumping. These are people that dump

1614
01:20:28,853 --> 01:20:32,333
Speaker 2: their donations to charity stores at three am in the

1615
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,013
Speaker 2: morning and they're not really donating their dumping, so we

1616
01:20:35,053 --> 01:20:39,372
Speaker 2: call them charity charity dumpers were chumpers, yep. And yeah,

1617
01:20:39,412 --> 01:20:42,612
Speaker 2: they're bad people. It's official now that is government's ancient Yes, yeah,

1618
01:20:42,652 --> 01:20:44,972
Speaker 2: and there probably should be a sort of PSA going

1619
01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:47,852
Speaker 2: around about them. But there was also a lot of

1620
01:20:47,893 --> 01:20:52,452
Speaker 2: talk about misuse of clothing bins yep. Massive. Now back

1621
01:20:52,492 --> 01:20:57,012
Speaker 2: in the day in christ Church when I was living

1622
01:20:57,053 --> 01:21:01,133
Speaker 2: down there, they have clothing bins that didn't have before

1623
01:21:01,133 --> 01:21:03,293
Speaker 2: they wiresed up to having the bit where it first

1624
01:21:03,333 --> 01:21:04,772
Speaker 2: goes in and you put them in, then you put

1625
01:21:04,812 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 2: it in yep. And so I was walking home for

1626
01:21:08,372 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: the ducks the lux with my friend grubby one night.

1627
01:21:10,612 --> 01:21:14,692
Speaker 2: Oh no, grubby yeah, and grubby is. But bear in mind,

1628
01:21:14,732 --> 01:21:17,133
Speaker 2: I'm a teenager at this point, and you know, I'm

1629
01:21:17,173 --> 01:21:20,372
Speaker 2: an upstanding member of the community right now. So eighteen nineteen, yeah,

1630
01:21:21,093 --> 01:21:24,772
Speaker 2: I'm upstanding. You know, No, flies are a fantastic human being.

1631
01:21:24,853 --> 01:21:27,652
Speaker 2: Now I think everyone would agree, incredible, But back then

1632
01:21:27,692 --> 01:21:33,973
Speaker 2: I was an absolute piece of crap. Anyway, Anyway, I

1633
01:21:33,973 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 2: didn't actually do the thing that was wrong here. But

1634
01:21:36,412 --> 01:21:38,972
Speaker 2: we were walking home and we walked past this clothing

1635
01:21:38,973 --> 01:21:42,253
Speaker 2: burd and he goes, watch this, I'm a jump in there.

1636
01:21:43,213 --> 01:21:47,333
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, and so he jumped in right.

1637
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:50,253
Speaker 2: But then suddenly there was a banging and craziness and

1638
01:21:50,853 --> 01:21:53,932
Speaker 2: it was like a cartoon. It was like you know

1639
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:59,812
Speaker 2: when and there was all this yelling and he jumped in.

1640
01:21:59,812 --> 01:22:03,572
Speaker 2: There was somebody already in there, so I don't know,

1641
01:22:03,732 --> 01:22:06,133
Speaker 2: there was some some guy was sleeping in there. So

1642
01:22:06,173 --> 01:22:08,693
Speaker 2: there was two of them got into this big cards

1643
01:22:09,173 --> 01:22:11,572
Speaker 2: inside the clothing, but there was no clothes in there.

1644
01:22:11,612 --> 01:22:13,652
Speaker 2: I'd take it. No, there were clothing there, but there

1645
01:22:13,692 --> 01:22:15,492
Speaker 2: was and that's fine. There was supposed to be closing there.

1646
01:22:15,492 --> 01:22:17,772
Speaker 2: There wasn't supposed to be one person in there, let

1647
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,732
Speaker 2: alone two people. And so I don't know why that

1648
01:22:19,772 --> 01:22:22,812
Speaker 2: other person was in there. They might have been homeless

1649
01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:24,892
Speaker 2: or something, but boy oh boy, that would have been

1650
01:22:24,893 --> 01:22:27,012
Speaker 2: a shock to the system for him. And as a result,

1651
01:22:27,053 --> 01:22:29,173
Speaker 2: there was this whole cartoon like free cars in there.

1652
01:22:29,253 --> 01:22:30,852
Speaker 3: You would have been thankful there was some clothes in

1653
01:22:30,893 --> 01:22:33,692
Speaker 3: there for padding from whoever the second person, and there was.

1654
01:22:33,812 --> 01:22:38,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had pull Grubby out. Great story, but

1655
01:22:38,093 --> 01:22:40,492
Speaker 2: with a nickname like Grubby, I'm not surprised he seemed

1656
01:22:40,492 --> 01:22:41,852
Speaker 2: to end up doing a lot of that kind of stuff.

1657
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:44,053
Speaker 2: The only surprising part was you didn't end upman there

1658
01:22:44,053 --> 01:22:45,652
Speaker 2: as well. But anyway, I just needed to get that

1659
01:22:45,692 --> 01:22:48,092
Speaker 2: off my chest as a confessional that I was involved

1660
01:22:48,093 --> 01:22:53,532
Speaker 2: in the Great clothing Bin for cars of Christ Church

1661
01:22:53,572 --> 01:22:54,572
Speaker 2: in the late nineties.

1662
01:22:54,612 --> 01:22:56,333
Speaker 3: Grubby, if you're listening, give us a bowt I want

1663
01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:58,932
Speaker 3: to hear more eight hundred and eighty ten eighty right

1664
01:22:59,013 --> 01:23:00,732
Speaker 3: on to this topic because this is going to be

1665
01:23:00,893 --> 01:23:05,612
Speaker 3: a doozy the best Kiwi band of all time.

1666
01:23:06,013 --> 01:23:12,253
Speaker 2: That's right. She had are shutting up shop. Tonight it

1667
01:23:12,452 --> 01:23:15,572
Speaker 2: spuck Atina sold out at the stadium in Auckland and

1668
01:23:15,572 --> 01:23:17,612
Speaker 2: then tomorrow their finally have a show back where it

1669
01:23:17,652 --> 01:23:19,973
Speaker 2: all started in Wellington at Homegrownd. They're going to be

1670
01:23:20,013 --> 01:23:22,053
Speaker 2: a fantastic couple of shows. They've been playing a few

1671
01:23:22,053 --> 01:23:24,253
Speaker 2: the other day. They're at the power Station doing a

1672
01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:27,013
Speaker 2: special album show the other day that was apparently phenomenal,

1673
01:23:27,572 --> 01:23:30,572
Speaker 2: but they are always phenomenal live, she had. That's one thing.

1674
01:23:30,612 --> 01:23:36,213
Speaker 2: They're the real deal. Great songs, full albums and great

1675
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:39,973
Speaker 2: live shows. Just absolutely fantastic live shows. And that's how

1676
01:23:39,973 --> 01:23:41,933
Speaker 2: they cut their career in Australia as well. They've just

1677
01:23:41,973 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: had a sold out tour of Australia as well recently.

1678
01:23:45,093 --> 01:23:47,892
Speaker 2: But it begs the question, after thirty seven years together,

1679
01:23:48,053 --> 01:23:49,732
Speaker 2: she had a been in our life all that time,

1680
01:23:49,853 --> 01:23:53,692
Speaker 2: are they New Zealand's greatest ever band?

1681
01:23:53,853 --> 01:23:56,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly be up there, as you say, was it

1682
01:23:56,133 --> 01:23:59,732
Speaker 3: thirty seven years? Longevity in that business is an impressive feat.

1683
01:23:59,772 --> 01:24:03,092
Speaker 3: And not just longevity but still selling out. That's incredible.

1684
01:24:03,133 --> 01:24:05,173
Speaker 2: Six number one albums, the most top forty singles of

1685
01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:09,852
Speaker 2: any band in New Zealand history. Yeah, and over a

1686
01:24:09,973 --> 01:24:12,452
Speaker 2: million live shows. I'm making that number up. I don't

1687
01:24:12,492 --> 01:24:14,612
Speaker 2: know how many. In fact, I texted Johnny Tuga before

1688
01:24:14,652 --> 01:24:17,173
Speaker 2: and I said how many shows do you reckon you've played? Yeah,

1689
01:24:17,173 --> 01:24:20,412
Speaker 2: and he said, no idea mate, A lot of a lot,

1690
01:24:20,412 --> 01:24:23,013
Speaker 2: He said, no idea mate, Please leave me alone. I've

1691
01:24:23,013 --> 01:24:23,973
Speaker 2: told you about texting me.

1692
01:24:24,293 --> 01:24:27,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just stopt in mates. But oh, one hundred

1693
01:24:27,652 --> 01:24:31,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Who is

1694
01:24:31,652 --> 01:24:34,452
Speaker 3: New Zealand's greatest band of all time? We've had some

1695
01:24:34,772 --> 01:24:38,013
Speaker 3: absolute amazing bands and punch above our weight.

1696
01:24:38,053 --> 01:24:40,093
Speaker 2: I've got to say internationally when it comes to our bands,

1697
01:24:40,093 --> 01:24:42,132
Speaker 2: are we going to what should we call it? Artists?

1698
01:24:43,492 --> 01:24:46,213
Speaker 2: You know, musical artists. Yeah, let's go artists. Our greatest

1699
01:24:46,293 --> 01:24:48,572
Speaker 2: musical artist. I don't when you bring in some painter.

1700
01:24:48,893 --> 01:24:51,173
Speaker 2: We're talking about music artists. Okay.

1701
01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,932
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1702
01:24:54,013 --> 01:24:57,412
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Who is

1703
01:24:57,532 --> 01:25:01,093
Speaker 3: the Greatest New Zealand Musical artist of all time? It's

1704
01:25:01,133 --> 01:25:05,492
Speaker 3: eleven past three, good afternoon, and we've asked the question

1705
01:25:05,572 --> 01:25:08,972
Speaker 3: what is the greatest New Zealand musical artist of all time?

1706
01:25:09,013 --> 01:25:13,092
Speaker 3: On the back of she had They are finishing their

1707
01:25:13,452 --> 01:25:16,092
Speaker 3: what would you say, their musical career, their tour.

1708
01:25:15,933 --> 01:25:19,213
Speaker 2: They're hanging up their guitars, their drums and their vocal

1709
01:25:19,293 --> 01:25:22,692
Speaker 2: cords and their bass guitar. Yeah, nicely Tomorrow night at

1710
01:25:22,692 --> 01:25:25,532
Speaker 2: Homegrown and Wellington, which will be fantastic show. Homegrown is

1711
01:25:25,532 --> 01:25:28,092
Speaker 2: always good and it's the last Homegrown ever in Wellington,

1712
01:25:28,213 --> 01:25:31,133
Speaker 2: so it's kind of kind of fitting that she had

1713
01:25:31,532 --> 01:25:33,973
Speaker 2: from the area. Are going to finish up there? Of

1714
01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:38,092
Speaker 2: course tonight at Spark Arena. Ye, playing a sold out show,

1715
01:25:38,692 --> 01:25:41,212
Speaker 2: so finishing in a stadium, so you'd say they're finishing

1716
01:25:41,253 --> 01:25:45,692
Speaker 2: on a high. But are they New Zealand's greatest ever act?

1717
01:25:45,973 --> 01:25:46,133
Speaker 7: Hi?

1718
01:25:46,213 --> 01:25:49,253
Speaker 2: Guys, she had New Zealand's a greatest rock band. Definitely

1719
01:25:49,372 --> 01:25:51,852
Speaker 2: a brilliant live act. Listening to John Tugot interview this

1720
01:25:51,933 --> 01:25:55,412
Speaker 2: morning on The Breakfast Show with wats his face, he

1721
01:25:55,492 --> 01:25:59,253
Speaker 2: was hunting at possible future performances The Urge Return of

1722
01:25:59,333 --> 01:26:01,572
Speaker 2: the Urge Returns. Yeah, I heard him say that. He said,

1723
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:06,253
Speaker 2: while see how I feel in eighteen months. Yeah, but

1724
01:26:06,652 --> 01:26:08,892
Speaker 2: now they're shutting up. She had surely say that. It's

1725
01:26:08,893 --> 01:26:10,173
Speaker 2: not gonna be one of those things like Kess that

1726
01:26:10,293 --> 01:26:12,253
Speaker 2: keeps doing their final tour and getting back together. I

1727
01:26:12,253 --> 01:26:14,293
Speaker 2: think this is done. But he has he has other

1728
01:26:14,452 --> 01:26:17,013
Speaker 2: other music he does, like the adults and stuff, and

1729
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:19,732
Speaker 2: he does his acoustic talks still in the industry.

1730
01:26:19,732 --> 01:26:21,652
Speaker 3: If you will, yeah, yeah, Oh, one hundred and eighty

1731
01:26:21,692 --> 01:26:23,173
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

1732
01:26:23,772 --> 01:26:24,572
Speaker 2: Jody. How are you?

1733
01:26:26,492 --> 01:26:26,692
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1734
01:26:26,692 --> 01:26:28,372
Speaker 6: I thank you guys. How do you guys?

1735
01:26:28,412 --> 01:26:28,492
Speaker 13: Go?

1736
01:26:29,133 --> 01:26:32,012
Speaker 2: Very good? Who do you reckon? Greatest New Zealand musical artist?

1737
01:26:33,612 --> 01:26:37,213
Speaker 6: Well, mate, I love here like a whole Oh great bad.

1738
01:26:38,173 --> 01:26:41,293
Speaker 6: We've had so many greats like the Darts, explaining that

1739
01:26:41,572 --> 01:26:47,492
Speaker 6: Freddy's drab, tunny days, the Dudes, the Chobles, Herbs drag.

1740
01:26:48,893 --> 01:26:51,612
Speaker 6: But I'd have to say Splits it be our greatest.

1741
01:26:52,333 --> 01:26:55,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so many fantastic songs split Ins. I was

1742
01:26:55,412 --> 01:26:57,372
Speaker 2: listening to the Second Thoughts album the other day, which

1743
01:26:57,452 --> 01:27:00,973
Speaker 2: is a very very old Split Ends album I think

1744
01:27:01,053 --> 01:27:03,253
Speaker 2: came out in nineteen seventy six. But there's a song

1745
01:27:03,293 --> 01:27:05,612
Speaker 2: on it called sweet Dreams that is just such a

1746
01:27:05,732 --> 01:27:08,213
Speaker 2: fantastic song by Splittinens. This isn't even one of these

1747
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 2: celebrated songs, but if you get a chance, listen to

1748
01:27:10,372 --> 01:27:13,732
Speaker 2: sweet Dreams from the Second Thoughts album, it is a

1749
01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:17,812
Speaker 2: phenomenally good song. Yeah. And they just had they had,

1750
01:27:17,933 --> 01:27:20,213
Speaker 2: They had Mona Lisas all over over the shops for

1751
01:27:20,293 --> 01:27:23,173
Speaker 2: the ends guarantee. Would you agree? Would you put them

1752
01:27:23,173 --> 01:27:24,012
Speaker 2: above crowded house?

1753
01:27:24,093 --> 01:27:27,133
Speaker 14: Jodie, Oh, way above?

1754
01:27:28,013 --> 01:27:28,253
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1755
01:27:29,013 --> 01:27:31,213
Speaker 6: I saw them a few times.

1756
01:27:31,293 --> 01:27:34,173
Speaker 8: I remember at the Rainbow Warrior concert. I think they

1757
01:27:34,253 --> 01:27:37,452
Speaker 8: said that that was going to be the last, the

1758
01:27:37,692 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 8: last time together. But I think they just ended and

1759
01:27:41,372 --> 01:27:43,452
Speaker 8: got back together another three or four times.

1760
01:27:45,013 --> 01:27:47,293
Speaker 2: It does seem to happen when the money's right, yeah,

1761
01:27:47,293 --> 01:27:50,412
Speaker 2: because because a lot of rockers, a lot of rockers

1762
01:27:50,492 --> 01:27:52,852
Speaker 2: do they sit aside to retire and then they're sitting

1763
01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:54,412
Speaker 2: around home and they're going, do you know what was

1764
01:27:54,492 --> 01:27:56,932
Speaker 2: really fun? It was playing in front of a huge

1765
01:27:56,973 --> 01:27:59,692
Speaker 2: crowd of people screaming and singing along to my music.

1766
01:27:59,772 --> 01:28:01,692
Speaker 2: That was really fun, and they want to get back

1767
01:28:01,732 --> 01:28:04,852
Speaker 2: into it. Plus the money talks and b S walks. Definitely.

1768
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:06,972
Speaker 3: I've just had a quick look at that Rainbow Warrior

1769
01:28:07,053 --> 01:28:11,492
Speaker 3: Music festival. Man, that was a lineup Jackson Brown, Neil Young, Herbs,

1770
01:28:12,053 --> 01:28:13,133
Speaker 3: split Ins far Out.

1771
01:28:13,173 --> 01:28:14,053
Speaker 2: That would have been a good time.

1772
01:28:15,492 --> 01:28:16,932
Speaker 6: That was great, mate, it was great.

1773
01:28:17,053 --> 01:28:20,052
Speaker 2: I tell you another fantastic song you bring up Herbs

1774
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:22,772
Speaker 2: sensitive to a smile whenever that song comes up. That's

1775
01:28:22,812 --> 01:28:26,492
Speaker 2: such such a beautiful, beautifully well written song in a

1776
01:28:26,732 --> 01:28:31,053
Speaker 2: fantastic sentiment. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1777
01:28:31,173 --> 01:28:34,532
Speaker 2: the number to call Neville Neville greatest New Zealand band

1778
01:28:34,612 --> 01:28:35,012
Speaker 2: all time?

1779
01:28:36,732 --> 01:28:39,492
Speaker 9: Well through Falling Leaves, I picked my way slowly.

1780
01:28:39,772 --> 01:28:43,372
Speaker 20: Yes, your formula, wouldn't it nature.

1781
01:28:43,772 --> 01:28:45,492
Speaker 9: As in New Zealand's the greatest song.

1782
01:28:45,652 --> 01:28:47,652
Speaker 20: We've already known that. They've already done that.

1783
01:28:48,133 --> 01:28:53,133
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, Well they in a fantastic cover

1784
01:28:53,333 --> 01:28:55,532
Speaker 2: from the Mutton Birds of that song as well.

1785
01:28:55,853 --> 01:28:57,972
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that was that was a good cover.

1786
01:28:58,612 --> 01:29:03,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Apraa in that big you know vote that

1787
01:29:03,173 --> 01:29:04,532
Speaker 2: they had a few years ago that came out as

1788
01:29:04,532 --> 01:29:06,213
Speaker 2: a numther one song, didn't it. But I guess you

1789
01:29:06,293 --> 01:29:09,412
Speaker 2: might say did they have a lot of songs though,

1790
01:29:09,412 --> 01:29:11,532
Speaker 2: because we only really know one song from the formula

1791
01:29:12,372 --> 01:29:12,692
Speaker 2: they went.

1792
01:29:12,973 --> 01:29:16,372
Speaker 20: They went to England quite early and sort of from

1793
01:29:16,412 --> 01:29:19,213
Speaker 20: there we lost them because back then we didn't get

1794
01:29:19,293 --> 01:29:21,612
Speaker 20: a lot of you know, what was going on in England.

1795
01:29:21,612 --> 01:29:23,492
Speaker 20: They wouldn't have been a big deal, so we wouldn't

1796
01:29:23,492 --> 01:29:25,972
Speaker 20: have heard of them ever. Again, they might have been England,

1797
01:29:25,973 --> 01:29:31,013
Speaker 20: I don't know, but yeah, Wayne Mason's still around, Yeah, yeah,

1798
01:29:31,532 --> 01:29:31,812
Speaker 20: I mean.

1799
01:29:31,772 --> 01:29:34,053
Speaker 2: It's just it's just such a great song. It's such

1800
01:29:34,093 --> 01:29:34,652
Speaker 2: a like.

1801
01:29:36,492 --> 01:29:38,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not familiar with this one, but I just

1802
01:29:38,253 --> 01:29:40,133
Speaker 3: looked it up. Come with Me got to number two

1803
01:29:40,173 --> 01:29:41,532
Speaker 3: on the charts in nineteen sixty eight.

1804
01:29:41,572 --> 01:29:42,253
Speaker 8: Oh come with Me?

1805
01:29:42,492 --> 01:29:44,492
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm there you go.

1806
01:29:44,732 --> 01:29:44,892
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1807
01:29:45,173 --> 01:29:47,093
Speaker 2: What was that band that had that song? They had

1808
01:29:47,093 --> 01:29:50,133
Speaker 2: a number one hit in the seventies that went out

1809
01:29:50,213 --> 01:29:52,452
Speaker 2: on the street, Out on the street.

1810
01:29:52,933 --> 01:29:53,372
Speaker 21: What was that?

1811
01:29:53,612 --> 01:29:57,372
Speaker 2: Good question? Space box? Yeah, Andrew heard from the other

1812
01:29:57,572 --> 01:29:59,572
Speaker 2: from Studio B there. Yeah, very good.

1813
01:29:59,612 --> 01:30:01,812
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1814
01:30:01,812 --> 01:30:03,372
Speaker 3: to call if you want to teach through you more

1815
01:30:03,412 --> 01:30:05,213
Speaker 3: than welcome. A heck of a lot of teas have

1816
01:30:05,253 --> 01:30:07,013
Speaker 3: come through on the greatest KI artist of all time?

1817
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:11,252
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right he had, retiring after thirty seven years tomorrow.

1818
01:30:11,732 --> 01:30:15,572
Speaker 2: But are they New Zealand's greatest ever banned nineteen past three.

1819
01:30:19,652 --> 01:30:24,372
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons Call eighty eighty on News

1820
01:30:24,452 --> 01:30:25,293
Speaker 1: Talk ZB.

1821
01:30:33,452 --> 01:30:34,452
Speaker 13: The students.

1822
01:30:42,812 --> 01:30:47,492
Speaker 3: On the street Space worlds out on the street.

1823
01:30:47,732 --> 01:30:50,452
Speaker 2: Very bowie, Yeah, I feel about it, isn't it?

1824
01:30:50,572 --> 01:30:50,772
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1825
01:30:50,853 --> 01:30:53,732
Speaker 2: Fantastic. So that's Brent Echols on the drums there for

1826
01:30:53,812 --> 01:30:55,812
Speaker 2: that band that you know you might know him from

1827
01:30:56,412 --> 01:30:59,372
Speaker 2: touring in New Zealand, very big part of the New

1828
01:30:59,452 --> 01:31:02,452
Speaker 2: Zealand touring industry. Went on to be drummer for the Angels.

1829
01:31:02,973 --> 01:31:04,812
Speaker 2: But I was talking to him about that song once

1830
01:31:04,893 --> 01:31:07,732
Speaker 2: and he said when they appeared on TV, because everyone

1831
01:31:07,772 --> 01:31:10,893
Speaker 2: watched TV back then. So when Space Woltz appeared on

1832
01:31:10,973 --> 01:31:12,732
Speaker 2: TV and played that song and he was sitting on

1833
01:31:12,772 --> 01:31:15,253
Speaker 2: the drums in a little because he wasn't really as

1834
01:31:15,293 --> 01:31:16,932
Speaker 2: glad as the other ones, they just put a butterfly

1835
01:31:17,013 --> 01:31:19,532
Speaker 2: on his forehead before they shot the video and it

1836
01:31:19,692 --> 01:31:21,213
Speaker 2: was on TV. And he said, you went from no

1837
01:31:21,293 --> 01:31:23,932
Speaker 2: one knowing who you were to just completely famous across

1838
01:31:24,053 --> 01:31:26,892
Speaker 2: the whole country, just by one television appearance back then. Man,

1839
01:31:27,652 --> 01:31:30,693
Speaker 2: some great texts. Alistair Adele was the songwriter Alistair.

1840
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:32,893
Speaker 3: Adel There's some great teats coming through on the greatest

1841
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:34,892
Speaker 3: artists New Zealand artists of all time.

1842
01:31:35,293 --> 01:31:38,213
Speaker 2: This text to says catch a Fire is the band?

1843
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:41,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, great band, good times. Hey guys, the most underrated

1844
01:31:41,492 --> 01:31:43,293
Speaker 3: band in New Zealand is the Naked and Famous.

1845
01:31:43,372 --> 01:31:45,852
Speaker 2: How they never went big? Oh never know? From Caine, Well,

1846
01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:49,173
Speaker 2: they went pretty huge nationwide. A friend of mine saw

1847
01:31:49,213 --> 01:31:52,612
Speaker 2: them at Coachella and they had a huge crowd. So

1848
01:31:52,893 --> 01:31:55,532
Speaker 2: Young Blood was a massive hurt punching and a Dream

1849
01:31:55,652 --> 01:32:00,293
Speaker 2: was a big hit. So they became massive in the

1850
01:32:00,293 --> 01:32:04,213
Speaker 2: alternative word globally and so they were a huge festival bands.

1851
01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:06,732
Speaker 2: So they had a lot of success. The Naked and Famous.

1852
01:32:06,732 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 2: Who was the rapper that ripped off when their songs?

1853
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:12,772
Speaker 3: Oh, machine Gun Kelly, Yeah, this one guy split the

1854
01:32:12,812 --> 01:32:16,253
Speaker 3: ins without a shadow of a doubt in guys, My favorite,

1855
01:32:16,293 --> 01:32:17,853
Speaker 3: hands down is jin Wigmore.

1856
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:21,852
Speaker 2: Jin Wigmore. She's still playing shows. Wow, she's a lovely person.

1857
01:32:22,013 --> 01:32:22,173
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1858
01:32:22,333 --> 01:32:23,932
Speaker 2: What goes on to say? How many artists have had

1859
01:32:23,973 --> 01:32:25,772
Speaker 2: their song used in a James Bond movie? Sky for

1860
01:32:26,732 --> 01:32:29,852
Speaker 2: a good question? How many New Zealand ares A lot

1861
01:32:29,893 --> 01:32:32,812
Speaker 2: of artists have Neither Will Dancing Toys. We're getting a

1862
01:32:32,893 --> 01:32:34,013
Speaker 2: lot of texts for them, but I'd say you can.

1863
01:32:34,053 --> 01:32:35,692
Speaker 2: You need to have more than one song we're talking

1864
01:32:35,692 --> 01:32:38,133
Speaker 2: about she had thirty seven years. Yeah, you know, the

1865
01:32:38,253 --> 01:32:41,053
Speaker 2: most top forty hits of any New Zealand band, Six

1866
01:32:41,173 --> 01:32:44,372
Speaker 2: number one albums, Neither Wild Dancing to Toys for Today.

1867
01:32:44,572 --> 01:32:50,173
Speaker 2: Fantastic song, absolutely brilliant, great du need and music and

1868
01:32:50,452 --> 01:32:52,652
Speaker 2: any crummer when she starts singing at the end, she

1869
01:32:52,732 --> 01:32:54,692
Speaker 2: just takes it to another level. It's a fantastic song.

1870
01:32:55,093 --> 01:32:56,133
Speaker 2: But where's your follow up?

1871
01:32:56,173 --> 01:32:56,372
Speaker 26: Mate?

1872
01:32:56,372 --> 01:32:56,812
Speaker 2: One hit one?

1873
01:32:56,853 --> 01:32:57,013
Speaker 8: There?

1874
01:32:57,013 --> 01:33:00,652
Speaker 2: Where's your follow up? Yeah? Oh, one hundred ten eighty

1875
01:33:00,893 --> 01:33:04,372
Speaker 2: is the number of gulls, says the guy with noted we've.

1876
01:33:03,933 --> 01:33:07,053
Speaker 3: Got full boards here. Hey, there's a few ticks coming

1877
01:33:07,093 --> 01:33:09,692
Speaker 3: through from Deja Voodoo. Calvin, how are you mate?

1878
01:33:10,652 --> 01:33:14,452
Speaker 27: Very good? Yeah, Dame Kerrie to Canawa equaled probably with

1879
01:33:14,692 --> 01:33:18,973
Speaker 27: Dame Melvina Major. And I saw Dame Melvina Major and

1880
01:33:19,053 --> 01:33:23,253
Speaker 27: the Hamilton Founder's Theater which recently has been completely demolished.

1881
01:33:23,732 --> 01:33:26,652
Speaker 27: It's gone back to a sports field now. But she

1882
01:33:26,853 --> 01:33:30,973
Speaker 27: was fantastic. She could, Dame Melvina Major could yodel and

1883
01:33:31,492 --> 01:33:32,293
Speaker 27: play the ukulele.

1884
01:33:33,053 --> 01:33:34,452
Speaker 2: I didn't know that about the yodling.

1885
01:33:35,732 --> 01:33:37,572
Speaker 27: Well you know it now, yeah I do.

1886
01:33:38,053 --> 01:33:40,652
Speaker 2: Kerry Takana would never be seen yodling, would she?

1887
01:33:41,893 --> 01:33:48,213
Speaker 27: But she was should be seen before the previous Queen

1888
01:33:48,293 --> 01:33:48,972
Speaker 27: of New Zealand.

1889
01:33:49,173 --> 01:33:53,572
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, like just internationally respected opera singer.

1890
01:33:53,732 --> 01:33:56,412
Speaker 2: A phenomenon. Now I've got that theater named after a

1891
01:33:56,532 --> 01:34:00,852
Speaker 2: terrifying woman. Though terrifying woman. She's absolutely destroyed many a

1892
01:34:01,093 --> 01:34:04,933
Speaker 2: New Zealand interviewer. That's why she's so successful, right she

1893
01:34:05,372 --> 01:34:10,452
Speaker 2: can be icy cold, can dame? Could he connel? Absolutely hamish?

1894
01:34:10,572 --> 01:34:11,572
Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon?

1895
01:34:12,772 --> 01:34:16,852
Speaker 22: Well mate, yeah, I said to the producer. He asked

1896
01:34:16,893 --> 01:34:19,333
Speaker 22: me who I thought was the greatest.

1897
01:34:20,572 --> 01:34:25,492
Speaker 26: Uh, and I said ends, but mainly because like you know,

1898
01:34:25,772 --> 01:34:30,572
Speaker 26: I mean globally they were massive. We listened to the

1899
01:34:30,772 --> 01:34:36,732
Speaker 26: likes of Op and Anthony mm hmm, which was a

1900
01:34:36,812 --> 01:34:41,053
Speaker 26: radio station in the States, shock jocks, and I mean,

1901
01:34:41,973 --> 01:34:47,852
Speaker 26: uh and like you know, comics like you know kel

1902
01:34:47,973 --> 01:34:52,372
Speaker 26: Tony and I mean those guys, those guys. Actually they

1903
01:34:52,412 --> 01:35:00,213
Speaker 26: were talking about the concert they saw of oh, you

1904
01:35:00,333 --> 01:35:03,173
Speaker 26: know where Neil went to the band that Neil went

1905
01:35:03,213 --> 01:35:09,532
Speaker 26: to Leetwoode, and they were saying that it was okay,

1906
01:35:10,173 --> 01:35:15,652
Speaker 26: but the highlight was seeing Neil Finn and they knew

1907
01:35:15,732 --> 01:35:18,133
Speaker 26: where he had come from, like you know, and they

1908
01:35:18,133 --> 01:35:20,532
Speaker 26: were saying split the end songs and so and so forth.

1909
01:35:20,893 --> 01:35:22,412
Speaker 26: But you know what I mean, and you forget that

1910
01:35:22,492 --> 01:35:27,012
Speaker 26: they were massive in the States. Another another one which

1911
01:35:27,253 --> 01:35:30,293
Speaker 26: probably no one will pick up on, is a band

1912
01:35:30,372 --> 01:35:31,572
Speaker 26: called Human Instinct.

1913
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:33,333
Speaker 5: Human interesting.

1914
01:35:33,532 --> 01:35:36,652
Speaker 2: They were they were phenamenal. That was Billy T Yeah,

1915
01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:43,492
Speaker 2: Bill tk T Yeah yeah, and Uile guitar, incredible guitarist.

1916
01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:49,452
Speaker 22: Yeah, amazing, and also Maurice Greer. He was the drummer

1917
01:35:50,933 --> 01:35:55,213
Speaker 22: and it was the first stand up drummer in New Zealand.

1918
01:35:55,412 --> 01:35:58,852
Speaker 22: Like he didn't sit down, he stood up. Yeah.

1919
01:35:59,213 --> 01:36:01,932
Speaker 2: This is kind of New Zealand's Jimmy Hendrix experience really.

1920
01:36:02,612 --> 01:36:05,532
Speaker 22: Yeah, pretty much they were touring with Hendrix and yeah,

1921
01:36:07,412 --> 01:36:10,333
Speaker 22: also uh leads yep.

1922
01:36:10,532 --> 01:36:14,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, that was interesting because you know, I

1923
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:16,452
Speaker 2: went along to see Fleetwood Mac with Niel Finn and

1924
01:36:16,532 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 2: whilst the harmonies weren't quite right because I'm a huge

1925
01:36:18,732 --> 01:36:21,732
Speaker 2: fan and Lindsay Buckingham wasn't there, highlight was when they

1926
01:36:21,772 --> 01:36:24,532
Speaker 2: played I Got You and you know, Stevie next talks

1927
01:36:24,532 --> 01:36:26,852
Speaker 2: about how she she saw that I Got You video

1928
01:36:26,933 --> 01:36:28,932
Speaker 2: on TV and she was just mesmerized by the song

1929
01:36:29,492 --> 01:36:32,013
Speaker 2: and you know, and and Niel Fin singing it in

1930
01:36:32,053 --> 01:36:34,812
Speaker 2: the way he looked into the camera and that's that's

1931
01:36:34,812 --> 01:36:36,492
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why they reached out to him

1932
01:36:36,532 --> 01:36:39,172
Speaker 2: to to take the spot of Lindsay Buckingham.

1933
01:36:39,253 --> 01:36:42,133
Speaker 3: Makes you feel proud, doesn't it. I went one hundred

1934
01:36:42,133 --> 01:36:44,812
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighties and I'm to call Dave, how

1935
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:45,053
Speaker 3: are you?

1936
01:36:47,213 --> 01:36:48,053
Speaker 9: Can you hear me? Yep?

1937
01:36:48,093 --> 01:36:48,412
Speaker 2: Gotcha?

1938
01:36:50,772 --> 01:36:52,293
Speaker 28: But I only just tuned in, so I don't know

1939
01:36:52,452 --> 01:36:54,892
Speaker 28: if these bands have already been named. We are talking

1940
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:56,812
Speaker 28: about bands, not one one artist.

1941
01:36:57,293 --> 01:36:59,093
Speaker 2: We can talk about anything. We can talk about anything.

1942
01:36:59,372 --> 01:37:02,213
Speaker 2: It's on the back of She Had, who obviously a

1943
01:37:02,372 --> 01:37:02,812
Speaker 2: rock band.

1944
01:37:03,213 --> 01:37:06,812
Speaker 28: Yep, yeah, yeah, sure, Had. I mean, yeah, yep. We

1945
01:37:06,893 --> 01:37:09,053
Speaker 28: all know Splittings blah blah blah. Yeah, but look, I

1946
01:37:09,333 --> 01:37:13,133
Speaker 28: think Feelers if you're talking about quality, then I think

1947
01:37:13,253 --> 01:37:15,492
Speaker 28: I mean that that the album to feel has put

1948
01:37:15,532 --> 01:37:18,492
Speaker 28: in the same as Dave's work with Diddie smashed the

1949
01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:23,412
Speaker 28: album while and I also think My six man, the

1950
01:37:23,492 --> 01:37:25,772
Speaker 28: sound that they put when they when they hit the scene.

1951
01:37:26,372 --> 01:37:28,372
Speaker 28: Everybody we're going. I've seen interviews with people going to

1952
01:37:28,412 --> 01:37:30,253
Speaker 28: Sweet Words, and they all wanted to see My six

1953
01:37:30,333 --> 01:37:31,932
Speaker 28: and I have listened back to the sound that they're

1954
01:37:31,933 --> 01:37:32,372
Speaker 28: putting out.

1955
01:37:32,372 --> 01:37:32,492
Speaker 7: Man.

1956
01:37:32,532 --> 01:37:36,053
Speaker 28: I mean, you know, they just they're awesome band.

1957
01:37:36,732 --> 01:37:39,013
Speaker 2: That song Blue Day by My six is such a

1958
01:37:39,133 --> 01:37:40,253
Speaker 2: phenomenally good song.

1959
01:37:44,532 --> 01:37:47,612
Speaker 28: That's a very They showed the chops shod chops, I

1960
01:37:47,652 --> 01:37:50,213
Speaker 28: showed they didn't just pump out you know, you know

1961
01:37:50,812 --> 01:37:52,692
Speaker 28: up the rockers that that's a really good, sort of

1962
01:37:53,093 --> 01:37:55,053
Speaker 28: a semi ballad sort of thing. It's a new song.

1963
01:37:55,333 --> 01:38:00,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, and can Peppeter game, Thank you so much.

1964
01:38:01,933 --> 01:38:05,213
Speaker 3: Great packs a couple of ticks, and then we'll wrap

1965
01:38:05,253 --> 01:38:08,812
Speaker 3: it up because headlines on its way. God, it has

1966
01:38:08,853 --> 01:38:13,932
Speaker 3: to be split INDs, crowded house boys. She had all

1967
01:38:14,053 --> 01:38:17,173
Speaker 3: day long, but six sixty is pretty good as well.

1968
01:38:17,372 --> 01:38:22,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Dalvanius, Oh yeah, Dalvanius, Darcy Clay

1969
01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:27,412
Speaker 2: Dusk had one fantastic song, Jesus was Evil. Dobbin Dobbin Dobbin,

1970
01:38:27,572 --> 01:38:30,053
Speaker 2: Split the Ends, there's a lot of Split Ends exponents.

1971
01:38:30,173 --> 01:38:34,932
Speaker 2: Best pub rock band ever, space Farm not familiar, how

1972
01:38:35,013 --> 01:38:37,692
Speaker 2: we Howe Morrison, Howard Morrison will get a bit of

1973
01:38:37,772 --> 01:38:41,452
Speaker 2: him later on. Ray Columbus Yeah, Ray Columbus, Yeah. Straw

1974
01:38:41,492 --> 01:38:44,652
Speaker 2: People were great. Nothing for Lord yet, have we got

1975
01:38:44,692 --> 01:38:48,012
Speaker 2: anything for Lord? Nothing for Lord? Does this span? Deja Voda?

1976
01:38:48,053 --> 01:38:50,932
Speaker 2: A lot of people texting through Deja just pretty good.

1977
01:38:50,933 --> 01:38:52,492
Speaker 2: That's weird because I've got one of their albums here,

1978
01:38:52,973 --> 01:38:56,852
Speaker 2: Brown Sabath on vinyl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they gold band.

1979
01:38:56,893 --> 01:38:59,412
Speaker 2: A lot of people send them, but probably not quite

1980
01:38:59,452 --> 01:39:02,852
Speaker 2: as good as she had. They had some great all

1981
01:39:02,933 --> 01:39:04,852
Speaker 2: right then what a fantastic discussion, A lot of love

1982
01:39:04,933 --> 01:39:06,892
Speaker 2: for New Zealand music. Oh yes, what do you need

1983
01:39:06,933 --> 01:39:09,133
Speaker 2: We well, we've got We've got Mike standy. Okay, let's

1984
01:39:09,133 --> 01:39:10,732
Speaker 2: go to a.

1985
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:19,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, hi guys, Yeah no, My Peck is definitely the

1986
01:39:19,253 --> 01:39:21,892
Speaker 4: greatest of all time in New Zealand over the decades.

1987
01:39:21,933 --> 01:39:25,732
Speaker 4: And there has to be the Exponents, especially when they

1988
01:39:25,812 --> 01:39:29,013
Speaker 4: teamed up with Dave Dobbin. I mean, those guys have

1989
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:31,253
Speaker 4: been up and down New Zealand so many times it's

1990
01:39:31,293 --> 01:39:35,213
Speaker 4: not funny. And you know the exponents especially you know,

1991
01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:38,852
Speaker 4: we us guys as late teenagers, we used to know

1992
01:39:39,053 --> 01:39:42,812
Speaker 4: all these songs with just singam at parties everywhere. In

1993
01:39:42,893 --> 01:39:46,852
Speaker 4: the concerts, we're outstanding. You get the loudest sing back

1994
01:39:47,372 --> 01:39:49,412
Speaker 4: at a party concert.

1995
01:39:49,893 --> 01:39:52,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you still get there with Jordan luckbands like

1996
01:39:52,572 --> 01:39:54,532
Speaker 2: that as well. So then play recently and they play

1997
01:39:54,532 --> 01:39:56,892
Speaker 2: a lot of songs, they play sput in songs, dude songs.

1998
01:39:57,213 --> 01:39:59,053
Speaker 2: They play all kinds of New Zealand songs as well

1999
01:39:59,093 --> 01:40:00,852
Speaker 2: in there and yeah, great sing along.

2000
01:40:02,093 --> 01:40:04,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, the exponents, I mean just it's just magic. And

2001
01:40:05,532 --> 01:40:06,893
Speaker 4: one I don't know when it was it might have

2002
01:40:06,933 --> 01:40:07,892
Speaker 4: been ninety ninety.

2003
01:40:07,692 --> 01:40:08,133
Speaker 18: Three or four.

2004
01:40:09,572 --> 01:40:12,213
Speaker 4: We went up to Tutor Carca and the Exponents were

2005
01:40:12,213 --> 01:40:14,973
Speaker 4: with Dave Dobbin there and we didn't have tickets, so

2006
01:40:15,053 --> 01:40:18,692
Speaker 4: we sat on a chain link fence next to the

2007
01:40:18,812 --> 01:40:22,053
Speaker 4: Tutor Carka Pub on top of it, and we had

2008
01:40:22,372 --> 01:40:24,053
Speaker 4: a view of the stage and so we saw the

2009
01:40:24,093 --> 01:40:26,772
Speaker 4: whole concert just perched on top. And I don't know

2010
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:31,172
Speaker 4: how it happened, but for some reason, I think quite possibly,

2011
01:40:31,253 --> 01:40:32,852
Speaker 4: we had a little bit too much to drink and

2012
01:40:32,933 --> 01:40:36,612
Speaker 4: we were quite quite emboldened, and we managed to get

2013
01:40:36,652 --> 01:40:41,053
Speaker 4: away afterwards into the Tudor Carca Pub, into the Executive

2014
01:40:41,093 --> 01:40:44,452
Speaker 4: Lounge and we spent an hour with the Exponents and

2015
01:40:44,532 --> 01:40:45,372
Speaker 4: Dave Dobbin and.

2016
01:40:45,412 --> 01:40:46,532
Speaker 9: It was just that was it.

2017
01:40:46,652 --> 01:40:48,812
Speaker 2: It was just a what a cool night, how good?

2018
01:40:49,532 --> 01:40:51,293
Speaker 2: I reckon a song from the Exponents back when they

2019
01:40:51,293 --> 01:40:54,132
Speaker 2: were called the Dance Exponents. Airway Spies is an underrated

2020
01:40:54,173 --> 01:40:56,652
Speaker 2: New Zealand classic. You know you're familiar with the Spies.

2021
01:40:56,732 --> 01:41:00,213
Speaker 2: No Airway Spies, we all can be. Andrew's going to

2022
01:41:00,253 --> 01:41:04,333
Speaker 2: try and fly away into the deep sky. Hye away.

2023
01:41:04,412 --> 01:41:05,053
Speaker 2: It's a great song.

2024
01:41:05,333 --> 01:41:07,173
Speaker 3: I really want to hear it now. Andrew's trying to

2025
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:08,492
Speaker 3: track down a little bit of the Clipper, but we

2026
01:41:08,612 --> 01:41:09,732
Speaker 3: might play some of that shortly.

2027
01:41:10,133 --> 01:41:12,772
Speaker 2: Chanelle Finster they were a great spin off from split

2028
01:41:12,853 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 2: Ins band. Absolutely it's texta alemonop. Fantastic band yep, and

2029
01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:19,452
Speaker 2: the mother and my children's the bass player of their band. Yeah,

2030
01:41:19,532 --> 01:41:22,692
Speaker 2: so I support that. Dragon fat fred ise, drop fat free,

2031
01:41:22,812 --> 01:41:24,612
Speaker 2: drop fat three is drop fat free, is drop fat free?

2032
01:41:24,692 --> 01:41:28,772
Speaker 3: Is drop oemc how bizarre great song one at Wonder though.

2033
01:41:28,933 --> 01:41:31,933
Speaker 3: Blurter Boy boys, so many coming through hell are you Picasso's.

2034
01:41:31,933 --> 01:41:33,293
Speaker 3: I went to see them quite a few times back here.

2035
01:41:33,372 --> 01:41:35,852
Speaker 2: They super groove there on aur as well.

2036
01:41:35,973 --> 01:41:39,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic, right, good chat headlines coming up and then,

2037
01:41:39,772 --> 01:41:41,932
Speaker 3: as we always do on a Friday, the New Zealander

2038
01:41:42,173 --> 01:41:45,052
Speaker 3: of the week, it is twenty eight to four.

2039
01:41:47,173 --> 01:41:50,652
Speaker 13: US talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2040
01:41:50,732 --> 01:41:54,012
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's told delegates

2041
01:41:54,093 --> 01:41:57,772
Speaker 13: at its investments summit in Auckland it's exploring tolls for

2042
01:41:57,933 --> 01:42:03,093
Speaker 13: all it's upcoming major roading projects. Labors reassured investors at

2043
01:42:03,133 --> 01:42:06,852
Speaker 13: the summit it won't cancel, pause or review projects just

2044
01:42:07,013 --> 01:42:09,093
Speaker 13: because the national government started them.

2045
01:42:09,933 --> 01:42:10,452
Speaker 2: Police say.

2046
01:42:10,492 --> 01:42:13,892
Speaker 13: Two more fires at Wayuku College near Auckland don't appear

2047
01:42:13,933 --> 01:42:16,092
Speaker 13: to be linked to the threatening emails sent.

2048
01:42:15,973 --> 01:42:16,972
Speaker 2: To the school earlier.

2049
01:42:17,093 --> 01:42:22,173
Speaker 13: This week, John Hope mucheedo Hondo is being sentenced in

2050
01:42:22,293 --> 01:42:26,252
Speaker 13: christ Church on seventeen charges of rape and sexual assault.

2051
01:42:27,213 --> 01:42:29,812
Speaker 2: Homegrown Music Festival is under way for its.

2052
01:42:29,692 --> 01:42:33,293
Speaker 13: Eighteenth and final time on Wellington's Waterfront, with the lineup

2053
01:42:33,372 --> 01:42:37,852
Speaker 13: including a final ever performance from She Had The Comfort

2054
01:42:38,013 --> 01:42:41,452
Speaker 13: Zone Trap. Why playing it Safe is holding You back?

2055
01:42:41,893 --> 01:42:44,452
Speaker 13: Read more at Enzen Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

2056
01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:45,652
Speaker 13: Eathan Tyler Adams.

2057
01:42:49,692 --> 01:42:52,412
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Mattantil Afternoons on ZEB we award the

2058
01:42:52,452 --> 01:42:54,532
Speaker 2: coveted New Zealand of the Week to a newsmaker who

2059
01:42:54,572 --> 01:42:57,253
Speaker 2: has had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation.

2060
01:42:57,333 --> 01:42:59,772
Speaker 2: As always, there will be three nominees, but only one winner.

2061
01:42:59,812 --> 01:43:02,412
Speaker 2: And remember, like the Time magazine Person of the Year,

2062
01:43:02,452 --> 01:43:04,173
Speaker 2: the New Zealand of the Week isn't always an agent

2063
01:43:04,253 --> 01:43:07,652
Speaker 2: of good. They are sometimes heroes, sometimes evil offer an

2064
01:43:07,772 --> 01:43:10,932
Speaker 2: averaged poor. So, without further ado, the nominees for Matt

2065
01:43:11,013 --> 01:43:13,852
Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week AH nominy

2066
01:43:13,933 --> 01:43:17,612
Speaker 2: one also receives the Excellence and Historical Language Award. He

2067
01:43:17,692 --> 01:43:20,093
Speaker 2: has been accused of using too much corporate speak, although

2068
01:43:20,133 --> 01:43:21,893
Speaker 2: no one's ever explained why that's a bad thing. But

2069
01:43:22,013 --> 01:43:25,293
Speaker 2: this week, while talking about the Wellington City Council, he

2070
01:43:25,452 --> 01:43:29,532
Speaker 2: pumped energy into a lost, beautiful piece of Kiwi language.

2071
01:43:29,572 --> 01:43:32,293
Speaker 2: It's pretty Lamo for bringing back the term lamo and

2072
01:43:32,452 --> 01:43:36,452
Speaker 2: shoving it right back into the Kiwi vernacular. Christopher Luxen,

2073
01:43:36,853 --> 01:43:39,133
Speaker 2: you have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

2074
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:42,213
Speaker 2: Weld Aright, last time I heard Lamo was at Marty Hill,

2075
01:43:42,213 --> 01:43:46,173
Speaker 2: probably schooling dned beautiful from the eighties, warming him. Nomine

2076
01:43:46,293 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 2: two also gets the Good Samaritan Award. We didn't get

2077
01:43:49,333 --> 01:43:51,333
Speaker 2: them when we're at school now. Apparently it's tears and

2078
01:43:51,412 --> 01:43:53,452
Speaker 2: tantrums and the end of the world if they aren't.

2079
01:43:53,532 --> 01:43:56,892
Speaker 2: Three star Mitchen and level cuisine for gifting a bunch

2080
01:43:56,933 --> 01:43:59,012
Speaker 2: of kids who don't seem to want them free lunches

2081
01:43:59,412 --> 01:44:04,213
Speaker 2: the generous cash strapped New Zealand taxpayer. You were nominated

2082
01:44:04,253 --> 01:44:05,213
Speaker 2: for New Zealander.

2083
01:44:04,853 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 18: Of the Week.

2084
01:44:05,572 --> 01:44:10,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, well deserved, Yeah buddy nice Also heartwent awing that one. Yes,

2085
01:44:10,293 --> 01:44:14,652
Speaker 2: what a lovely gift and the winner that will be

2086
01:44:14,652 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 2: the only one also receives the soundtrack of Our Lives

2087
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:21,612
Speaker 2: Award thirty seven years, six number one albums, a movie,

2088
01:44:21,772 --> 01:44:24,412
Speaker 2: more Top forty singles than any other New Zealand artist,

2089
01:44:24,492 --> 01:44:26,732
Speaker 2: a weird period where they changed their name, then changed

2090
01:44:26,732 --> 01:44:29,492
Speaker 2: it back, but most of all a million gigs all

2091
01:44:29,532 --> 01:44:32,532
Speaker 2: over the world and all of which kept ass But

2092
01:44:32,612 --> 01:44:35,173
Speaker 2: it all finishes with a sold out gig at Spark

2093
01:44:35,173 --> 01:44:37,772
Speaker 2: Arena tonight and then a farewell in the place it

2094
01:44:37,853 --> 01:44:42,173
Speaker 2: all started, Wellington tomorrow night at Home, Grind Home Again,

2095
01:44:42,532 --> 01:44:45,333
Speaker 2: Run Pacifier, the general Electric, wait and see comfort me

2096
01:44:45,772 --> 01:44:49,173
Speaker 2: one will hear the other. So many great songs, John, Phil,

2097
01:44:49,333 --> 01:44:52,133
Speaker 2: Tom and Carl, collectively known as She Had for being

2098
01:44:52,213 --> 01:44:54,732
Speaker 2: the biggest and best rock band in New Zealand across

2099
01:44:54,812 --> 01:45:00,933
Speaker 2: four decades. You are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders.

2100
01:45:00,732 --> 01:45:01,412
Speaker 27: Of the week.

2101
01:45:05,253 --> 01:45:12,492
Speaker 2: Congratulations Johnny, too good and she has Oga. God bless

2102
01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:16,492
Speaker 2: and God's bleed and enjoy your retirement.

2103
01:45:28,893 --> 01:45:31,692
Speaker 18: We've just got back from Australia. Every show in Australia

2104
01:45:31,812 --> 01:45:35,532
Speaker 18: was sold out. I don't think we've done that, and

2105
01:45:35,692 --> 01:45:39,612
Speaker 18: it's just been a joyous celebration of music every night.

2106
01:45:40,093 --> 01:45:43,372
Speaker 18: I think, just for once in my life from when

2107
01:45:43,452 --> 01:45:46,492
Speaker 18: up in eighteen, she has always been the priority. It's

2108
01:45:46,492 --> 01:45:50,572
Speaker 18: always come first before everything, and so I just wanted

2109
01:45:50,612 --> 01:45:52,972
Speaker 18: to try putting my family first.

2110
01:45:54,933 --> 01:46:00,052
Speaker 2: And Tyler Adams here, he is fantastic. Yeah, great. Winn

2111
01:46:00,253 --> 01:46:02,532
Speaker 2: did half an hour of asking what the best band

2112
01:46:02,572 --> 01:46:04,732
Speaker 2: in New Zealand was. Everyone said split ins, and then

2113
01:46:04,772 --> 01:46:07,892
Speaker 2: I announced she had as New Zealand of the Week,

2114
01:46:07,933 --> 01:46:09,932
Speaker 2: saying that the bestpans the last thirty seven years.

2115
01:46:09,812 --> 01:46:12,452
Speaker 3: So well deserved, though well deserved, sorry spliteans, but she

2116
01:46:12,612 --> 01:46:15,893
Speaker 3: had time, she had day to day, yeah, absolutely, and

2117
01:46:15,973 --> 01:46:19,253
Speaker 3: tomorrow right, So it is time for topical Tunes, a

2118
01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:22,293
Speaker 3: game we play every Friday afternoon. We're Matt and I

2119
01:46:22,612 --> 01:46:26,892
Speaker 3: each pick a song related to a theme of the week.

2120
01:46:27,492 --> 01:46:30,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm feeling like we might be flogging the

2121
01:46:30,572 --> 01:46:33,412
Speaker 2: same horse here at this hour. I was going to

2122
01:46:33,452 --> 01:46:36,372
Speaker 2: play a song with hog Snort, Rupert's Original Flag and Band,

2123
01:46:37,652 --> 01:46:42,252
Speaker 2: or the Dead Suns or Straight Ticket Fits to celebrate

2124
01:46:42,772 --> 01:46:46,812
Speaker 2: New Zealand music, but it has to be she had

2125
01:46:47,732 --> 01:46:50,692
Speaker 2: that fantastic band, as we say, the last yow tonight

2126
01:46:50,772 --> 01:47:03,333
Speaker 2: and tomorrow night, and this is their best song. Hundred

2127
01:47:03,452 --> 01:47:06,932
Speaker 2: eighty eight topical tune, Pretty good at Home again.

2128
01:47:07,213 --> 01:47:10,452
Speaker 3: So, like you said, I've also gone for as she

2129
01:47:10,652 --> 01:47:13,612
Speaker 3: had number because what a career and one of our greatest,

2130
01:47:13,652 --> 01:47:15,772
Speaker 3: if not the greatest, thirty seven years.

2131
01:47:15,812 --> 01:47:18,333
Speaker 2: She had record company paying us for this hour. Will

2132
01:47:18,333 --> 01:47:20,732
Speaker 2: they see what's going on? They should have seen an invoice. Yeah,

2133
01:47:20,732 --> 01:47:23,812
Speaker 2: if you're listening, is big time. But the song of

2134
01:47:23,973 --> 01:47:27,612
Speaker 2: God for is one that always gets the crowd raked up.

2135
01:47:27,853 --> 01:47:37,852
Speaker 2: It is this one. Two things yep, personally eight hundred

2136
01:47:37,853 --> 01:47:40,933
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty first to three wins Tyler or me.

2137
01:47:41,652 --> 01:47:44,572
Speaker 2: This is strictly speaking Pacifier when they changed their name

2138
01:47:44,652 --> 01:47:47,013
Speaker 2: from She Had to Pacify. Yeah, I mean, I know

2139
01:47:47,133 --> 01:47:48,293
Speaker 2: this is what the album's called.

2140
01:47:48,492 --> 01:47:50,972
Speaker 3: But no, that was, you know, a blip in their

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Speaker 3: otherwise illustrious career.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it looks like, yeah, you've jumped on my

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01:47:56,093 --> 01:47:59,133
Speaker 2: topic there, Tyler. I imagine that the voters on eight

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01:47:59,213 --> 01:48:02,372
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty will take umbrage at that

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01:48:02,612 --> 01:48:04,572
Speaker 2: and vote for me. But yeah, which song is it

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01:48:04,732 --> 01:48:09,452
Speaker 2: mineor Tyler's Home Again or run hundred eighty ten eighty

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01:48:09,532 --> 01:48:11,093
Speaker 2: You know what to do nineteen nine two if you

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01:48:11,133 --> 01:48:12,772
Speaker 2: want to send a text, but we don't count those.

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01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:14,412
Speaker 2: It is nineteen to.

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Speaker 1: Four Mattith Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

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01:48:19,652 --> 01:48:23,452
Speaker 1: on Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety

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01:48:23,652 --> 01:48:26,612
Speaker 1: attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news talk.

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01:48:26,732 --> 01:48:29,772
Speaker 3: Sa'd be It is time for topical tunes, where Matt

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01:48:29,812 --> 01:48:31,812
Speaker 3: and I each peck a song related to what we

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01:48:31,933 --> 01:48:35,132
Speaker 3: think is a theme of the week, and you decide who.

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01:48:35,133 --> 01:48:37,492
Speaker 2: Wins in the song you want to hear? Yeah, so,

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01:48:37,973 --> 01:48:41,372
Speaker 2: because she hads last two shows this weekend. Ever, I

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01:48:41,532 --> 01:48:43,972
Speaker 2: picked this song from the great band.

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Speaker 5: Very Handy.

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01:48:46,812 --> 01:48:50,532
Speaker 2: The song yeah, with its daylight saving advice there very

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01:48:50,572 --> 01:48:52,333
Speaker 2: I've used it on a number of occasions to work

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01:48:52,372 --> 01:48:54,812
Speaker 2: it out, and so I one hundred and eighty teen

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01:48:54,853 --> 01:48:57,492
Speaker 2: eighty Is that the topical tune? You want to vote

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01:48:57,532 --> 01:49:00,333
Speaker 2: for me? And then Tyler, you piggyback on my topic? Yes,

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01:49:00,412 --> 01:49:02,692
Speaker 2: I'm going she had as well. This is my song today,

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01:49:03,612 --> 01:49:04,572
Speaker 2: an original five?

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01:49:04,853 --> 01:49:09,852
Speaker 16: Yeah, just right, you up.

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01:49:09,893 --> 01:49:12,692
Speaker 2: That's ready for the weekend. Music that is ready for

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01:49:12,933 --> 01:49:16,053
Speaker 2: home growing. I'm gonna check the rule boot. Can you

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01:49:16,173 --> 01:49:18,013
Speaker 2: use the same topic. I think I'm not sure you

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01:49:18,133 --> 01:49:21,133
Speaker 2: might be you might be disqualified. We'll have a look

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01:49:21,173 --> 01:49:21,372
Speaker 2: into it.

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01:49:21,492 --> 01:49:24,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty What is the

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01:49:24,933 --> 01:49:27,532
Speaker 3: song you want to hear? The first to three votes

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01:49:27,652 --> 01:49:31,372
Speaker 3: takes it out. Greg, How are you this afternoon?

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01:49:34,293 --> 01:49:35,253
Speaker 5: Greg? Are you there?

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01:49:35,572 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 2: Hid a Greg? Greg?

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Speaker 21: Greg?

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Speaker 2: Right, We're going to come back to Greg. Just standing there?

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01:49:43,133 --> 01:49:46,253
Speaker 2: Greg Heymos, Yep, mate.

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01:49:46,093 --> 01:49:49,652
Speaker 22: Yeah, I called you before. Yeah, I'm sorry. I've got

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01:49:49,732 --> 01:49:53,812
Speaker 22: to go with Tyler's very Tyler's song, love that great song.

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01:49:53,893 --> 01:49:56,492
Speaker 3: You're a good man, Amosh, thank you very much. One

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01:49:56,612 --> 01:50:01,213
Speaker 3: for me for run technically a technically a you said

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01:50:01,213 --> 01:50:03,133
Speaker 3: they pacify song. You know they changed the name at

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01:50:03,133 --> 01:50:05,372
Speaker 3: that point. Okay, one for you, one for me, grant

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01:50:06,053 --> 01:50:07,452
Speaker 3: your your song.

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01:50:08,732 --> 01:50:13,093
Speaker 2: Run run alright, two for me, two four well numb

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01:50:13,133 --> 01:50:13,972
Speaker 2: for you at the stage.

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01:50:14,772 --> 01:50:19,852
Speaker 3: Some great texts coming through guys, Absolutely love Home Again.

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01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:23,972
Speaker 2: Fantastic band she had as one of our greats. Put

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01:50:24,013 --> 01:50:26,652
Speaker 2: your clocks back for the winter as such an emotional line,

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01:50:26,692 --> 01:50:29,053
Speaker 2: clear winner, but the text don't count. One hundred and

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01:50:29,093 --> 01:50:32,173
Speaker 2: eighty ten to eighty is the number to text. Absolutely

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01:50:32,213 --> 01:50:36,572
Speaker 2: rubbish music. Prefer to talk about the kids lunches, says Jeff. Yeah,

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01:50:37,093 --> 01:50:40,052
Speaker 2: forget she had? What about deja voda?

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01:50:40,333 --> 01:50:43,492
Speaker 3: There's a lot of teach coming through for deja voodoo. Oh,

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01:50:43,572 --> 01:50:45,973
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to.

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01:50:46,053 --> 01:50:48,452
Speaker 2: Call regarding the Sheila thing. As if it was a

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01:50:48,612 --> 01:50:52,493
Speaker 2: toss up between Shana Lang and Sharon O'Neill in Tropical Paradise,

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01:50:52,572 --> 01:50:56,652
Speaker 2: I would actually vote in this competition. Yeah right, the

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01:50:56,812 --> 01:50:58,932
Speaker 2: phone lines have lit up. So who are we going

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01:50:58,973 --> 01:51:01,452
Speaker 2: to here? Andrew? Are we going to Lynn? Get a lyn?

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01:51:01,933 --> 01:51:02,053
Speaker 25: Oh?

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01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:06,612
Speaker 2: Lynn? And welcome to the show, Haylen Hi Hi. I'd

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01:51:06,692 --> 01:51:10,253
Speaker 2: like to vote for Tyler. Let you go Shore you

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01:51:10,333 --> 01:51:13,532
Speaker 2: win it? Yes, thank you? Brief a thread not very

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01:51:14,093 --> 01:51:16,213
Speaker 2: not very credible. She had some, but look that's fine.

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Speaker 2: You won't.

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Speaker 18: I get it.

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01:51:16,973 --> 01:51:19,372
Speaker 2: The people have spoken, all right, the people have spoken.

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01:51:22,053 --> 01:51:25,333
Speaker 16: Rank it, frank a beer. It's the fact.

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01:51:27,893 --> 01:51:35,372
Speaker 2: And a joy, absolute choke. I'll let you away that.

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01:51:35,532 --> 01:51:44,572
Speaker 16: Yeah, thank you, Oh.

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01:51:45,532 --> 01:52:01,372
Speaker 25: Sad relical, that's the truth to say. You shows that

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01:52:01,732 --> 01:52:09,572
Speaker 25: to ride again, watch.

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01:52:15,732 --> 01:52:34,933
Speaker 5: I stop watching dog still little tree tis.

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01:52:38,812 --> 01:52:47,933
Speaker 29: Lot to take kitchens still pens on his side and

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01:52:48,532 --> 01:52:51,813
Speaker 29: the trees the god heppy.

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Speaker 30: So watching.

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01:53:04,772 --> 01:53:05,372
Speaker 5: I got.

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01:53:11,333 --> 01:53:19,652
Speaker 30: Way on a way, so to go way on my

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01:53:20,933 --> 01:53:28,812
Speaker 30: round to say.

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01:53:31,213 --> 01:54:08,492
Speaker 2: What a boy said, sure you.

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01:54:11,452 --> 01:54:15,013
Speaker 5: Watch hold and on holding on to.

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01:54:18,133 --> 01:55:04,972
Speaker 2: Let go and on hold around you there week run.

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01:55:05,173 --> 01:55:09,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to all our listeners who voted

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01:55:09,373 --> 01:55:12,973
Speaker 3: for what is an absolutely cracking She Had So on

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01:55:13,093 --> 01:55:15,693
Speaker 3: the back of course of their tour, their last ever

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01:55:15,772 --> 01:55:18,533
Speaker 3: tour wrapping up tomorrow, they're going to be playing Tonight's

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01:55:19,093 --> 01:55:20,012
Speaker 3: and here in Aucklands.

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01:55:20,213 --> 01:55:22,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's sold out, Sparkler and I'm pretty sure

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01:55:22,373 --> 01:55:24,573
Speaker 2: you can't get any more tickets. And also at Homegrown

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01:55:24,853 --> 01:55:28,012
Speaker 2: in Wellington, which we stopped the free she Had promotion.

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01:55:28,133 --> 01:55:30,573
Speaker 2: That's been a whole hour of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:55:30,613 --> 01:55:32,653
Speaker 2: And it's not I'm not just better because I lost that.

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01:55:32,893 --> 01:55:34,013
Speaker 2: I am better because I No.

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Speaker 3: No, We'll do it all again next Friday afternoon. Right,

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Speaker 3: So coming up very shortly, we're going to wrap up

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: It is nine to four, the big stories, the big issues,

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01:55:47,493 --> 01:55:50,932
Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt and Taylor

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01:55:51,053 --> 01:55:54,772
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention to detail and

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01:55:54,893 --> 01:55:55,932
Speaker 1: a commitment to comfort.

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01:55:56,093 --> 01:55:59,333
Speaker 5: News Dogs, EDB, News Dogs, EDB.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Right, that is almost us for the week.

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01:56:04,053 --> 01:56:05,893
Speaker 3: But there's something that you just wanted to ever we

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01:56:06,013 --> 01:56:07,132
Speaker 3: mentioned about minute this whole.

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01:56:07,093 --> 01:56:11,132
Speaker 2: I've been getting increasingly annoyed by the Montana based Sam Jones,

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Speaker 2: the influencer that grabbed the baby wombat from its mother

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01:56:14,133 --> 01:56:17,693
Speaker 2: and ran off while the while the mother was chasing her.

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01:56:17,733 --> 01:56:20,973
Speaker 2: And she's ran away from Australia. The whole idea of

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01:56:21,013 --> 01:56:24,373
Speaker 2: being an animal based influencer and then you clearly don't

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01:56:24,453 --> 01:56:27,093
Speaker 2: care about animals at all. Look up the story. It'll

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01:56:27,133 --> 01:56:31,373
Speaker 2: make you very annoyed. Hopefully her influencing days are over.

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Speaker 2: Sam Jones, you are lame.

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01:56:34,573 --> 01:56:36,973
Speaker 3: I'm glad to see that she's been chased out of Australia.

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01:56:37,013 --> 01:56:39,812
Speaker 3: That's the latest, is that she's she's escaped like a coward.

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01:56:40,053 --> 01:56:40,253
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he was chased out. I think

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01:56:41,973 --> 01:56:44,973
Speaker 2: she ran away because yeah, you don't go messing with

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01:56:45,053 --> 01:56:47,053
Speaker 2: a baby wombat in Australia and think he can get

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01:56:47,053 --> 01:56:47,493
Speaker 2: away with it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right. That is ask for another week. Thank you

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01:56:52,253 --> 01:56:55,852
Speaker 3: very much to everyone who called and took part in text.

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01:56:56,253 --> 01:56:59,053
Speaker 3: Really enjoyed today and this week. We'll do it all

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01:56:59,133 --> 01:57:01,613
Speaker 3: again tomorrow and tomorrow next.

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Speaker 2: Week, Yeah we will. I'm off to the Warriors tonight,

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01:57:04,093 --> 01:57:06,293
Speaker 2: so come on, let's get the season started out.

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01:57:07,173 --> 01:57:09,653
Speaker 3: Was that's what we want to and also the if

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01:57:09,733 --> 01:57:12,893
Speaker 3: one on Sunday, Liam Lawson that is going to be

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01:57:13,293 --> 01:57:14,733
Speaker 3: a fantastic watch.

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01:57:14,573 --> 01:57:18,053
Speaker 2: And a lot of exciting super rugby as well. Absolutely,

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01:57:18,173 --> 01:57:19,453
Speaker 2: we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 4: M hmm.

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