1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from Newstalks edb. 3 00:00:13,067 --> 00:00:17,067 Speaker 2: Dare to Be Different. The Michael Campbell Story a compelling 4 00:00:17,307 --> 00:00:22,307 Speaker 2: new feature length documentary marking the twentieth anniversary of one 5 00:00:22,347 --> 00:00:27,227 Speaker 2: of New Zealand's greatest sporting triumphs, Michael Campbell's unforgettable win 6 00:00:27,707 --> 00:00:29,907 Speaker 2: at the two thousand and five US Open. 7 00:00:30,627 --> 00:00:34,867 Speaker 3: There's the difference three with Tiger, So he's got some cushion. 8 00:00:36,547 --> 00:00:38,907 Speaker 2: Well, he's earned that cushion, especially with that funny man 9 00:00:38,947 --> 00:00:40,987 Speaker 2: in the last hole, straight up Phil. 10 00:00:40,827 --> 00:00:45,347 Speaker 4: From here, So two puts from there to put this away. 11 00:00:46,827 --> 00:00:49,787 Speaker 2: So ten years from letting one open slip away with 12 00:00:49,827 --> 00:00:56,347 Speaker 2: Michael Campbell, it's got a will the US Open. And 13 00:00:56,387 --> 00:00:59,067 Speaker 2: when you've had the up and down career that he has. 14 00:01:01,987 --> 00:01:04,907 Speaker 2: At one point after that risk injury which we mentioned earlier, 15 00:01:04,987 --> 00:01:07,787 Speaker 2: we thought about quitting the life while setting a. 16 00:01:07,747 --> 00:01:09,747 Speaker 3: French hotel room back in ninety eighty. 17 00:01:09,787 --> 00:01:12,427 Speaker 2: It's sept to three hundred and sixty in the world 18 00:01:12,507 --> 00:01:14,467 Speaker 2: rankings and it has. 19 00:01:14,307 --> 00:01:17,827 Speaker 3: Come back all the way to the top. You know 20 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:20,867 Speaker 3: us or think you bet they've got some pride. 21 00:01:21,547 --> 00:01:26,707 Speaker 2: Darl in New Zealand from Titahi Bay to the world stage. 22 00:01:26,747 --> 00:01:30,027 Speaker 2: Michael Campbell's journey is one of grit, belief and brilliance. 23 00:01:30,147 --> 00:01:34,227 Speaker 2: Presented by Sky Sport, this documentary traces his rise from 24 00:01:34,307 --> 00:01:37,787 Speaker 2: humble beginnings to beating golf's biggest names, including Tiger Woods, 25 00:01:38,227 --> 00:01:42,027 Speaker 2: and becoming a major winner and a national hero. Dare 26 00:01:42,067 --> 00:01:45,387 Speaker 2: to Be Different premiers tonight from seven o'clock on Sky 27 00:01:45,547 --> 00:01:49,347 Speaker 2: Sport three. Michael Campbell is with us on Weekend Sport. 28 00:01:49,387 --> 00:01:53,627 Speaker 2: First of all, can you believe it's been twenty years 29 00:01:53,667 --> 00:01:56,827 Speaker 2: since that audio we just heard You'll win at the 30 00:01:56,987 --> 00:01:57,627 Speaker 2: US Open. 31 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:01,667 Speaker 4: No time has flown past, you know, over the last 32 00:02:01,707 --> 00:02:04,507 Speaker 4: twenty years, And when I look back and reminisce of 33 00:02:04,587 --> 00:02:09,387 Speaker 4: at those times, it's always obviously wonderful memories of mine 34 00:02:09,467 --> 00:02:13,467 Speaker 4: and something I'll never forget. It was an incredible ride. 35 00:02:13,587 --> 00:02:18,147 Speaker 4: But this documentary will explain to people the pathway to 36 00:02:18,227 --> 00:02:23,307 Speaker 4: my success. It wasn't about that particular day that's end result, 37 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:26,907 Speaker 4: but that's the path and the journey I took to 38 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 4: get there, a lot of struggles and a lot of 39 00:02:31,707 --> 00:02:35,587 Speaker 4: setbacks in my time and to the victories victories I've 40 00:02:35,587 --> 00:02:39,947 Speaker 4: had as a professional golfer, and it's I. 41 00:02:39,907 --> 00:02:42,267 Speaker 3: Mean, I really enjoyed making it. 42 00:02:42,267 --> 00:02:46,067 Speaker 4: It made me kind of really think about how I 43 00:02:46,107 --> 00:02:49,747 Speaker 4: got there in a very detailed way, you know, going 44 00:02:49,907 --> 00:02:52,507 Speaker 4: from my first coach, my dad when I was six 45 00:02:52,627 --> 00:02:58,227 Speaker 4: years old, to Dennis Sutherland, who unfortunately passed away this recently. 46 00:02:58,467 --> 00:03:02,227 Speaker 4: My first coach, really real coach. Then Mel Tongue, he 47 00:03:02,347 --> 00:03:04,467 Speaker 4: took me under his wing. He looked after me from 48 00:03:04,467 --> 00:03:07,587 Speaker 4: the age of sixteen onwards. Its about twenty three, twenty four, 49 00:03:08,427 --> 00:03:12,027 Speaker 4: Jonathan Yalwood. You know, all these people made it possible 50 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:15,507 Speaker 4: with Victory, he Jill and Golf, so it wasn't just 51 00:03:16,707 --> 00:03:18,947 Speaker 4: you know, as a group of a lot of people 52 00:03:19,587 --> 00:03:20,547 Speaker 4: over time. 53 00:03:21,147 --> 00:03:22,987 Speaker 3: And you know, it's been fun. 54 00:03:23,067 --> 00:03:24,867 Speaker 4: I mean I went back to Pinehurst for the very 55 00:03:24,867 --> 00:03:27,707 Speaker 4: first time since I won. I went Bryson one bucking 56 00:03:28,627 --> 00:03:32,107 Speaker 4: last year and with Sports Sports Inc. And Calson and 57 00:03:32,507 --> 00:03:35,267 Speaker 4: Randall were there and and we really went through the 58 00:03:35,307 --> 00:03:38,707 Speaker 4: hole in the last eighteen holes of my round and 59 00:03:38,747 --> 00:03:41,427 Speaker 4: I said to myself, Matt, damn, this golf course is hard. 60 00:03:41,467 --> 00:03:44,267 Speaker 4: Because they had a camera crew follow me around the 61 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:47,027 Speaker 4: golf course and I explained I knew every single shot. 62 00:03:47,387 --> 00:03:50,587 Speaker 4: It's incredible and it was so nice to go back 63 00:03:50,627 --> 00:03:55,147 Speaker 4: there and really just you know, go through all those 64 00:03:55,787 --> 00:03:56,587 Speaker 4: wonderful memories. 65 00:03:56,707 --> 00:03:58,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get to those in a moment. 66 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:00,547 Speaker 2: But can we take it back, Michael, Like many key 67 00:04:00,587 --> 00:04:02,507 Speaker 2: with kids growing up, you wanted to be an all black, 68 00:04:02,587 --> 00:04:06,267 Speaker 2: didn't you? You know when and how did golf take 69 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:08,227 Speaker 2: whold of you? Was it mainly through your dead? 70 00:04:09,307 --> 00:04:11,507 Speaker 3: Yeah? Dad, it didn't really push me. 71 00:04:11,707 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 4: But my mum didn't like me playing rugby, and I 72 00:04:19,747 --> 00:04:21,627 Speaker 4: knew it wasn't good enough. You kind of know as 73 00:04:21,627 --> 00:04:24,547 Speaker 4: a kid when you go through those phases. I started 74 00:04:24,587 --> 00:04:27,547 Speaker 4: playing rugby at five years old to about probably ten eleven. 75 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:31,627 Speaker 4: You just know you're not good enough. And so I thought, okay, 76 00:04:31,827 --> 00:04:34,787 Speaker 4: I'll drop that rugby dream. And then all of a 77 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:39,267 Speaker 4: sudden I focused on golf, and I don't know, golf 78 00:04:39,307 --> 00:04:43,627 Speaker 4: seemed easy for me at that stage, and that's when 79 00:04:43,667 --> 00:04:46,747 Speaker 4: I took up golf service around thirteen. You know, you. 80 00:04:46,747 --> 00:04:48,307 Speaker 3: Imagine, I think it's a great story. 81 00:04:48,347 --> 00:04:53,387 Speaker 4: You know, a kid grown up in Titahi Bay playing 82 00:04:53,387 --> 00:04:56,027 Speaker 4: on the golf course that's got sheep everywhere, fences around 83 00:04:56,027 --> 00:05:00,507 Speaker 4: the greens, one club, one boar, maybe two balls, had 84 00:05:00,507 --> 00:05:02,867 Speaker 4: a six iron, went from that to win in the 85 00:05:02,907 --> 00:05:04,747 Speaker 4: US Open, one of the biggest tournaments in the world. 86 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:06,427 Speaker 4: So it was a great story and it's why I 87 00:05:06,427 --> 00:05:10,787 Speaker 4: wanted to share this with everyone out there. How in 88 00:05:10,907 --> 00:05:15,387 Speaker 4: a sometimes dreams maybe impossible, but I made it possible 89 00:05:15,547 --> 00:05:19,667 Speaker 4: by believing in my dreams. And that's one thing I 90 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:22,707 Speaker 4: want to send a message to everyone and through this 91 00:05:22,747 --> 00:05:25,147 Speaker 4: documentary back home, is that you know, anything is possible, 92 00:05:25,387 --> 00:05:29,627 Speaker 4: anythings possible, and you know, for me, golf is more 93 00:05:29,667 --> 00:05:32,427 Speaker 4: than just a game. It's about creating moments and time 94 00:05:32,987 --> 00:05:37,947 Speaker 4: and memories and winning the US Circle was mine. So yeah, 95 00:05:37,987 --> 00:05:41,267 Speaker 4: it just goes to show that you eything's possible for 96 00:05:41,387 --> 00:05:43,267 Speaker 4: or you know, defew dream big. 97 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:46,427 Speaker 2: Well, in the doco, you tell the story of standing 98 00:05:46,507 --> 00:05:49,227 Speaker 2: up on your first day at Manna College, which is 99 00:05:49,467 --> 00:05:52,387 Speaker 2: your secondary school, and announcing you wanted to be a 100 00:05:52,387 --> 00:05:56,707 Speaker 2: pro golfer and everybody laughing, presumably, I guess, because there 101 00:05:56,707 --> 00:05:59,147 Speaker 2: weren't too many MOLDI golfers around at that time. Were 102 00:05:59,187 --> 00:06:02,587 Speaker 2: you driven by wanting to break that mold or did 103 00:06:02,627 --> 00:06:04,627 Speaker 2: you just want to be a golfer? 104 00:06:06,067 --> 00:06:09,307 Speaker 3: No, I was driven by that. Actually, yes, I remember 105 00:06:09,307 --> 00:06:09,707 Speaker 3: that day. 106 00:06:09,747 --> 00:06:12,027 Speaker 4: It was It was at Martin College, first year at school, 107 00:06:12,107 --> 00:06:15,347 Speaker 4: when I was thirteen years old. And we had to 108 00:06:15,387 --> 00:06:18,947 Speaker 4: introduce ourselves, our names and parents and where we came from, 109 00:06:19,147 --> 00:06:19,627 Speaker 4: what they. 110 00:06:19,507 --> 00:06:22,027 Speaker 3: Did, and what's your future, what's your future goals? 111 00:06:22,067 --> 00:06:29,427 Speaker 4: And all most classmates were saying the usual kind of thing, policemen, fireman, doctor, nurse, whatever. 112 00:06:30,947 --> 00:06:33,987 Speaker 4: And it was my time to come. I said, golf professional. 113 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:36,747 Speaker 4: And I remember every single person in their classroom laughed 114 00:06:36,867 --> 00:06:40,667 Speaker 4: at me. I'm still there, standing standing tall, and I thought, no, 115 00:06:40,987 --> 00:06:43,547 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. One day, I'll definitely have the 116 00:06:43,627 --> 00:06:46,827 Speaker 4: last laugh. And all my mates from school now play golf. 117 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:51,987 Speaker 4: So it was it was, it was, you know, I 118 00:06:52,027 --> 00:06:54,547 Speaker 4: just wanted you're right. I mean, not many multi play 119 00:06:54,587 --> 00:06:57,907 Speaker 4: golf back in the seventies and eighties, and there was 120 00:06:57,907 --> 00:07:02,027 Speaker 4: no professional golfers on tour. I'll never forget the moment 121 00:07:02,987 --> 00:07:05,587 Speaker 4: when I thought, okay, this is my my pathway. Was 122 00:07:05,627 --> 00:07:10,907 Speaker 4: when I was watching Golf Life Golf with Dad earlier 123 00:07:10,907 --> 00:07:15,587 Speaker 4: hours in the morning, the US Masters back in eighties 124 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:18,307 Speaker 4: or something like that, eighty two to eighty three, and 125 00:07:18,347 --> 00:07:21,027 Speaker 4: it's early in the morning because the time difference, and 126 00:07:21,067 --> 00:07:25,947 Speaker 4: I remember watching watching Jack Nicholas plane Augusta US Masters, 127 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:30,187 Speaker 4: and I said to Dad, there's no New Zealanders in 128 00:07:30,187 --> 00:07:33,387 Speaker 4: the field. Well, no, no Malby in the field, because 129 00:07:33,427 --> 00:07:36,947 Speaker 4: are they're not good enough? Michael and I thought, well 130 00:07:36,947 --> 00:07:39,387 Speaker 4: maybe I can change that. So that really changed my 131 00:07:39,427 --> 00:07:41,547 Speaker 4: whole That's part of. 132 00:07:41,507 --> 00:07:42,267 Speaker 3: The reason. 133 00:07:43,507 --> 00:07:46,147 Speaker 4: Was proof of the world that Mauldy can play golf. 134 00:07:46,307 --> 00:07:47,827 Speaker 4: So I think I succeeded there. 135 00:07:47,947 --> 00:07:50,867 Speaker 2: You certainly did. He had a high degree of amateur success, 136 00:07:50,907 --> 00:07:54,867 Speaker 2: including the Eisenhower of course, and turned professional in nineteen 137 00:07:54,987 --> 00:07:57,827 Speaker 2: ninety three. How long did it take you to feel 138 00:07:58,467 --> 00:08:00,907 Speaker 2: at home comfortable on the pro circuit? 139 00:08:02,427 --> 00:08:06,827 Speaker 4: Very quickly, I won very quickly, about five weeks after 140 00:08:06,867 --> 00:08:10,307 Speaker 4: I turned pro. I was lucky, well lucky, a bit 141 00:08:10,307 --> 00:08:13,067 Speaker 4: of hard work, but I won very quickly. So I 142 00:08:13,107 --> 00:08:16,347 Speaker 4: felt very, very comfortable on tour. And then let's when 143 00:08:16,467 --> 00:08:18,947 Speaker 4: things forgot for me and then I finished. Then he 144 00:08:18,987 --> 00:08:22,147 Speaker 4: won the Open ninety five, so it kind of like 145 00:08:22,307 --> 00:08:25,787 Speaker 4: just compounded from there. So I went from, you know, 146 00:08:25,907 --> 00:08:28,867 Speaker 4: being one of the best Australasian players back in the 147 00:08:29,187 --> 00:08:30,707 Speaker 4: nineties to all of a sudden, you know, one of 148 00:08:30,747 --> 00:08:35,667 Speaker 4: the best European tour players. So I talked to elavator 149 00:08:35,707 --> 00:08:38,387 Speaker 4: to the top very quickly, some people and take the stairs. 150 00:08:38,427 --> 00:08:44,507 Speaker 4: I took the elevator, went to the top and where 151 00:08:44,547 --> 00:08:47,507 Speaker 4: that come from, I don't know, but yeah, and I 152 00:08:47,547 --> 00:08:50,267 Speaker 4: had success very quickly, and it was it was so 153 00:08:50,347 --> 00:08:52,507 Speaker 4: I felt very comfortable very quickly. So that's why I 154 00:08:52,547 --> 00:08:54,507 Speaker 4: think I kind of hung around for a very long 155 00:08:54,547 --> 00:08:58,187 Speaker 4: time on tour for twenty years or so before I 156 00:08:58,227 --> 00:09:03,547 Speaker 4: retired about what ten years ago now ship twelve years ago. 157 00:09:05,387 --> 00:09:07,787 Speaker 4: So yeah, I look, you know, I'm very precative of 158 00:09:07,907 --> 00:09:12,107 Speaker 4: my career, what I've done, and hopefully in this documentary 159 00:09:12,107 --> 00:09:13,307 Speaker 4: you will explain. 160 00:09:14,507 --> 00:09:15,787 Speaker 3: How it kind of unfolded. 161 00:09:16,787 --> 00:09:19,587 Speaker 2: Right, Let's get to the two thousand and five US Open. 162 00:09:19,707 --> 00:09:22,627 Speaker 2: You were ranked eightieth in the world at that time, 163 00:09:22,707 --> 00:09:25,667 Speaker 2: so you had to go through qualifying to even make 164 00:09:25,707 --> 00:09:28,187 Speaker 2: it into the field for the US Open at Pinehurst 165 00:09:28,267 --> 00:09:31,267 Speaker 2: number two. Once you had done that, what were your 166 00:09:31,307 --> 00:09:33,227 Speaker 2: ambitions going into the tournament. 167 00:09:36,587 --> 00:09:38,147 Speaker 3: That particularly. 168 00:09:40,587 --> 00:09:42,747 Speaker 4: Moments or two or three months I was playing well, 169 00:09:42,907 --> 00:09:46,307 Speaker 4: you know, going into the US Open, and so I 170 00:09:46,347 --> 00:09:50,347 Speaker 4: set a goal and you're seeing the documentary of my 171 00:09:51,187 --> 00:09:54,707 Speaker 4: goal setting. Since I was twelve thirteen years old, I 172 00:09:54,787 --> 00:09:57,507 Speaker 4: had a little black book that kept for myself and 173 00:09:58,227 --> 00:10:01,027 Speaker 4: my mom started that for me many many years ago 174 00:10:01,627 --> 00:10:05,267 Speaker 4: when I was thirteen, and things like if I break 175 00:10:05,307 --> 00:10:09,867 Speaker 4: a hundred. You know, I'll buy a new driver for 176 00:10:09,907 --> 00:10:13,667 Speaker 4: breaking ninety. I've got a new cutter. So I've always 177 00:10:13,707 --> 00:10:16,347 Speaker 4: been a goal setter ever since then. My mum taught 178 00:10:16,347 --> 00:10:19,627 Speaker 4: me that a very young age. Unfortunately she passed away 179 00:10:19,867 --> 00:10:23,187 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, but yeah, so she she 180 00:10:23,267 --> 00:10:26,187 Speaker 4: planted that seed in my mind about goal sitting. And 181 00:10:26,187 --> 00:10:29,427 Speaker 4: and so what I'm going to now is that week 182 00:10:29,467 --> 00:10:32,747 Speaker 4: of the US Open. Every week I had a goal, 183 00:10:33,147 --> 00:10:35,347 Speaker 4: you know, when I was out there playing, break thirty 184 00:10:35,387 --> 00:10:38,467 Speaker 4: parts or hit twelve out of fourteen fairways. You know, 185 00:10:38,467 --> 00:10:41,187 Speaker 4: I think an extra five minutes on the treadmill, you know, 186 00:10:41,347 --> 00:10:43,947 Speaker 4: an extra five sit ups or whatever it's going to be. 187 00:10:45,107 --> 00:10:46,787 Speaker 4: There's always something I always had. 188 00:10:46,627 --> 00:10:50,347 Speaker 3: In my mind that week to achieve, and playing golf 189 00:10:50,547 --> 00:10:54,987 Speaker 3: was one was the the. 190 00:10:56,067 --> 00:10:59,427 Speaker 4: Reason why I did it, but also the I was 191 00:10:59,467 --> 00:11:02,627 Speaker 4: focusing on the on the small things that make a difference, 192 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:04,667 Speaker 4: and that was one big thing for me with a 193 00:11:04,707 --> 00:11:07,827 Speaker 4: goal setting side. That week of the US Open, and 194 00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:11,267 Speaker 4: I see myself top ten, I'm going to buy myself 195 00:11:11,267 --> 00:11:14,347 Speaker 4: a secondhand Porsche because I love my Porsches. You know, 196 00:11:14,427 --> 00:11:18,667 Speaker 4: twenty thousand miles on the clock, three four years old, 197 00:11:19,267 --> 00:11:21,707 Speaker 4: spend twenty five thousand pounds because I was living in 198 00:11:22,147 --> 00:11:25,227 Speaker 4: London at the time, and so I wrote nine ninety seven, 199 00:11:26,507 --> 00:11:30,187 Speaker 4: which is the model of the year in two thousand 200 00:11:30,227 --> 00:11:32,787 Speaker 4: and five, and nine nine seven was my markings on 201 00:11:32,827 --> 00:11:33,187 Speaker 4: my ball. 202 00:11:34,147 --> 00:11:34,907 Speaker 3: Normally do do. 203 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:37,547 Speaker 4: Like a cross or a line or bots whatever, but 204 00:11:37,627 --> 00:11:40,267 Speaker 4: I put nine ninety seven. That was one of the 205 00:11:40,587 --> 00:11:44,587 Speaker 4: was my goal. And after three rounds, I also I 206 00:11:44,667 --> 00:11:47,907 Speaker 4: noticed I was leading well posted the lead. I said 207 00:11:47,907 --> 00:11:50,387 Speaker 4: to myself, O case, I crossed that out, and then 208 00:11:50,427 --> 00:11:55,027 Speaker 4: put down a brand new Porsche. And then in the 209 00:11:55,027 --> 00:11:59,387 Speaker 4: far round. This is absolute truth. All I was thinking 210 00:11:59,387 --> 00:12:04,947 Speaker 4: about was my Porsche. The color of the of the car, 211 00:12:06,427 --> 00:12:10,867 Speaker 4: side of the wheels, the shape of the exhaust pipes, 212 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:15,787 Speaker 4: the great break, your pillars, the interior. I'm not kidding, 213 00:12:15,827 --> 00:12:17,667 Speaker 4: you know. That's what I thought about. The whole eighteen 214 00:12:17,707 --> 00:12:19,907 Speaker 4: holes in the last round was that. And then obviously 215 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:22,627 Speaker 4: I was the bigger picture of the US Open. But 216 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:24,427 Speaker 4: I played a game within the game, you know. I 217 00:12:24,507 --> 00:12:27,187 Speaker 4: decided to keep it trying to keep it small within 218 00:12:27,507 --> 00:12:31,107 Speaker 4: something that I can control. Because you can't control the 219 00:12:31,107 --> 00:12:34,067 Speaker 4: other players, you can't control the crowds, the weather, But 220 00:12:34,147 --> 00:12:36,747 Speaker 4: I can control what I think I can achieve. And 221 00:12:36,787 --> 00:12:40,587 Speaker 4: it was that Porsche so and then its final final part, 222 00:12:41,747 --> 00:12:43,747 Speaker 4: and the first thing I thought about was my Porsche. 223 00:12:44,627 --> 00:12:48,067 Speaker 4: To others, I thought, we'll hang on here. I've actually 224 00:12:48,107 --> 00:12:50,667 Speaker 4: won the us O Wind as well, so that's a bonus. Yeah, 225 00:12:50,707 --> 00:12:51,587 Speaker 4: so that's a true story. 226 00:12:51,707 --> 00:12:54,667 Speaker 2: I love that story. That is so brilliant. So on 227 00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:58,627 Speaker 2: the final afternoon, you held your nerve as others drop 228 00:12:58,707 --> 00:13:01,907 Speaker 2: shots and coming down the streets, you basically found yourself 229 00:13:01,987 --> 00:13:04,627 Speaker 2: in a straight shootout with none other then the world 230 00:13:04,707 --> 00:13:09,467 Speaker 2: number one Tiger Woods, a tenth major. It's the US Open, 231 00:13:09,587 --> 00:13:13,227 Speaker 2: so pretty much the entire fifty thousand strong gallery is 232 00:13:13,307 --> 00:13:17,187 Speaker 2: cheering him on. What was that like, Michael? 233 00:13:19,747 --> 00:13:27,427 Speaker 4: How much in control it was of my mind? How 234 00:13:27,707 --> 00:13:34,947 Speaker 4: karma was surprisingly how much I was. I thought I 235 00:13:34,947 --> 00:13:37,587 Speaker 4: was going to win this. I know I can say 236 00:13:37,627 --> 00:13:42,747 Speaker 4: it now, but I think it comes down to a 237 00:13:42,787 --> 00:13:46,467 Speaker 4: mental resilience, mental fortitude. You know, Yes, you've got the 238 00:13:46,507 --> 00:13:49,907 Speaker 4: physical demands of going out there and playing different shots 239 00:13:49,907 --> 00:13:52,267 Speaker 4: and your swing and you're putting your chipping, your bunker, 240 00:13:52,307 --> 00:13:55,747 Speaker 4: playing and lots sort of different aspects, But it comes 241 00:13:55,747 --> 00:13:59,547 Speaker 4: down what's you know between these between your years? And 242 00:14:00,107 --> 00:14:04,507 Speaker 4: I was very very determined, and I knew that the 243 00:14:04,547 --> 00:14:08,347 Speaker 4: goal was very very close and the top you know, 244 00:14:09,787 --> 00:14:12,427 Speaker 4: twenty years to get there, you know, you know, as 245 00:14:12,427 --> 00:14:14,187 Speaker 4: I said before earlier in the interview, and it's not 246 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:17,907 Speaker 4: about that particular day. It's it's how it all unfolded, 247 00:14:18,547 --> 00:14:22,427 Speaker 4: you know, with my team behind me, within the people 248 00:14:22,467 --> 00:14:27,267 Speaker 4: who were involved. For example, all the I was thinking 249 00:14:27,307 --> 00:14:31,587 Speaker 4: about a lot of people after the round, after after 250 00:14:31,747 --> 00:14:35,147 Speaker 4: one people helped me. It's a kid growing up at 251 00:14:35,147 --> 00:14:38,347 Speaker 4: Titahi Golf Club. I had a lot of mentors. People 252 00:14:38,467 --> 00:14:41,107 Speaker 4: used to pick me up from early mornings to take 253 00:14:41,187 --> 00:14:43,347 Speaker 4: me to a tow club when I was a kid, 254 00:14:43,507 --> 00:14:46,747 Speaker 4: you know, things like that. You know, I try to 255 00:14:46,747 --> 00:14:49,147 Speaker 4: thank them, and this is my way of thanking them, 256 00:14:49,387 --> 00:14:51,547 Speaker 4: was to when the biggest, biggest TALM in the world, 257 00:14:51,547 --> 00:14:56,067 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of these thousands of people, hundreds 258 00:14:56,107 --> 00:14:57,947 Speaker 4: of people who helped me out, I felt, you know, 259 00:14:58,227 --> 00:15:01,507 Speaker 4: it's it's hard hard to kind of like pin point 260 00:15:01,707 --> 00:15:04,707 Speaker 4: just a few. There's more than just a few. And 261 00:15:04,747 --> 00:15:08,027 Speaker 4: I was thinking about them really and without them, without 262 00:15:08,067 --> 00:15:11,987 Speaker 4: their help and the guidance and mentoring, this wouldn't happen. So, 263 00:15:12,947 --> 00:15:15,427 Speaker 4: you know, the final result was winning the US Open. 264 00:15:15,507 --> 00:15:19,227 Speaker 4: But how I got there was a great journey. 265 00:15:19,267 --> 00:15:21,027 Speaker 3: I think, amazing, amazing. 266 00:15:21,427 --> 00:15:24,627 Speaker 2: So you're a major winner, You've won the US Open. 267 00:15:24,947 --> 00:15:29,147 Speaker 2: How much did that win change your life? 268 00:15:32,027 --> 00:15:32,267 Speaker 3: Cool? 269 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:40,947 Speaker 4: It's I wasn't prepared for it, to be honest. I 270 00:15:40,947 --> 00:15:44,747 Speaker 4: remember the I remember the first time I had a 271 00:15:44,867 --> 00:15:48,467 Speaker 4: meeting with my team, a management group at the time, 272 00:15:48,507 --> 00:15:50,827 Speaker 4: and I said, I want to go home. This is 273 00:15:50,987 --> 00:15:55,747 Speaker 4: literally a week after I won. And they said, are 274 00:15:55,787 --> 00:15:59,267 Speaker 4: you kidding me, There is no time. Michael said, You're 275 00:15:59,267 --> 00:16:01,067 Speaker 4: going to make time. You're going to make time to 276 00:16:01,267 --> 00:16:05,067 Speaker 4: go home and share my success with my people, and 277 00:16:05,707 --> 00:16:08,667 Speaker 4: they got that's impossible. I said, well, no, I want 278 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:13,987 Speaker 4: ten days. So Emirates flew me over with my family 279 00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:17,827 Speaker 4: and we had a crazy ten days and a ticket 280 00:16:17,827 --> 00:16:22,707 Speaker 4: tape parade, homecoming tour, went to all these schools around 281 00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:26,107 Speaker 4: New Zealand to inspire young kids. I did it for 282 00:16:26,267 --> 00:16:27,867 Speaker 4: New Zealand, not for me. I didn't I didn't need 283 00:16:27,867 --> 00:16:31,707 Speaker 4: the publicity. That's the last thing I wanted. And it 284 00:16:31,747 --> 00:16:35,507 Speaker 4: was important for me because you know, my grandmother and 285 00:16:35,547 --> 00:16:37,867 Speaker 4: I were very, very close. She passed away many many 286 00:16:37,947 --> 00:16:42,027 Speaker 4: years ago when I was sixteen, but she always told 287 00:16:42,067 --> 00:16:47,107 Speaker 4: me that I would do something special. You know, I 288 00:16:47,147 --> 00:16:50,667 Speaker 4: was ten years old when we have these conversations. I 289 00:16:50,707 --> 00:16:54,467 Speaker 4: didn't start playing golf then, but she knew something was 290 00:16:55,627 --> 00:16:57,387 Speaker 4: you know, I was I was fashal in some sort 291 00:16:57,387 --> 00:16:58,667 Speaker 4: of way, and I thought she was a little bit 292 00:16:58,747 --> 00:17:01,787 Speaker 4: you know, Okay, grand made a little bit nutty, but okay, 293 00:17:02,307 --> 00:17:05,627 Speaker 4: I'll believe you. And she still there's a confidence for 294 00:17:05,707 --> 00:17:10,867 Speaker 4: me a lot so, and then when this happened, I 295 00:17:10,947 --> 00:17:13,067 Speaker 4: kind of understood what she was talking about. Now, you 296 00:17:13,147 --> 00:17:18,307 Speaker 4: always told me that one of her philosophy philosophies is 297 00:17:18,347 --> 00:17:20,507 Speaker 4: that you know, you were born with two hands, one 298 00:17:20,587 --> 00:17:24,387 Speaker 4: to give, one to give, one to take, one to receive. Sorry, 299 00:17:24,387 --> 00:17:27,227 Speaker 4: I want to give back, and so when I received 300 00:17:27,267 --> 00:17:30,107 Speaker 4: the serious Open victory, I wanted to give back to 301 00:17:30,147 --> 00:17:33,667 Speaker 4: my people back home and inspire people back home with 302 00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,627 Speaker 4: these young kids that you know, any dreams possible. 303 00:17:36,787 --> 00:17:36,947 Speaker 3: You know. 304 00:17:37,027 --> 00:17:40,907 Speaker 4: You imagine I was sitting down watching the best players 305 00:17:40,907 --> 00:17:43,507 Speaker 4: in the world of my father at thirteen years old, 306 00:17:43,667 --> 00:17:46,707 Speaker 4: billion hours in the morning, watching these guys play these 307 00:17:46,747 --> 00:17:50,147 Speaker 4: amazing golf courses, and I'm thinking, I want to be 308 00:17:50,147 --> 00:17:55,547 Speaker 4: there one day happen, you know, So let's go to 309 00:17:55,627 --> 00:17:57,787 Speaker 4: show that, you know, anything's possible. I mean, I know 310 00:17:57,867 --> 00:18:00,667 Speaker 4: that I said that word a lot, but that's one 311 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,267 Speaker 4: where the sentence that comes springs to my mind every 312 00:18:03,267 --> 00:18:05,667 Speaker 4: single time I talk about this is that, you know, 313 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:10,267 Speaker 4: I went from golf club to winning in major championships 314 00:18:10,307 --> 00:18:11,707 Speaker 4: and bidding target at the same time. 315 00:18:11,867 --> 00:18:14,187 Speaker 3: So you can't get better than that, now. 316 00:18:14,147 --> 00:18:16,827 Speaker 2: You cannot. What a journey. What a journey it's been. 317 00:18:16,907 --> 00:18:20,107 Speaker 2: And the journey, of course has continued over the past 318 00:18:20,147 --> 00:18:23,147 Speaker 2: twenty years. It's been a roller coaster. And in fact, 319 00:18:23,147 --> 00:18:26,427 Speaker 2: you have had some challenges, haven't you, Michael, particularly in 320 00:18:26,467 --> 00:18:29,147 Speaker 2: the last year or so. 321 00:18:29,267 --> 00:18:29,907 Speaker 3: Yes, I have. 322 00:18:31,987 --> 00:18:35,347 Speaker 4: The last three years or so, I've going to be 323 00:18:35,427 --> 00:18:40,027 Speaker 4: going through heart problems. It's called actual fibrillation. That's quite 324 00:18:40,027 --> 00:18:44,827 Speaker 4: common back in the day, especially now. And yeah, I 325 00:18:44,827 --> 00:18:47,747 Speaker 4: had had heart surge for you about two months ago, 326 00:18:48,547 --> 00:18:51,507 Speaker 4: and I'm feeling so much better now. Actual fibrillation is 327 00:18:51,547 --> 00:18:55,827 Speaker 4: basically racing too fast. Your heart's racing too fast and 328 00:18:55,867 --> 00:18:58,627 Speaker 4: algorithm and I fixed that. Now. I feel like a 329 00:18:59,867 --> 00:19:02,067 Speaker 4: like a thirty year old now, all around fifty six. 330 00:19:02,267 --> 00:19:05,907 Speaker 4: I feel much younger and playing better now. Because I 331 00:19:06,227 --> 00:19:09,347 Speaker 4: was on the golf course and I was getting fatigue 332 00:19:09,467 --> 00:19:13,187 Speaker 4: and tired and couldn't focus, and it's getting pretty frustrating. 333 00:19:13,187 --> 00:19:15,867 Speaker 3: And ippole it was just aging, you know, getting old. 334 00:19:17,227 --> 00:19:19,187 Speaker 4: Until I add a health check and I thought, okay, 335 00:19:19,987 --> 00:19:23,107 Speaker 4: cheap because the needs to need to fix this. So yeah, 336 00:19:23,107 --> 00:19:27,147 Speaker 4: it's been challenging the last two or three years. And 337 00:19:27,947 --> 00:19:30,907 Speaker 4: I put the surgery off for two years and I thought, no, 338 00:19:30,947 --> 00:19:31,827 Speaker 4: I have to do it because. 339 00:19:31,627 --> 00:19:34,987 Speaker 3: The quality of life was wasn't good. And now I 340 00:19:34,987 --> 00:19:37,507 Speaker 3: felt great. I mean, I feel normal. I feel like 341 00:19:37,547 --> 00:19:39,267 Speaker 3: I'm waking up in the morning now. 342 00:19:40,787 --> 00:19:45,427 Speaker 4: Slept, you know, because I remember sleeping before the surgery 343 00:19:45,587 --> 00:19:48,907 Speaker 4: for eight hours, nine hours a day and waking up 344 00:19:48,907 --> 00:19:50,867 Speaker 4: in the morning I feeling tired. So I thought something's 345 00:19:50,947 --> 00:19:55,267 Speaker 4: wrong here. So yeah, it's been challenging, isn't it. And 346 00:19:55,267 --> 00:19:59,187 Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm go a second chapter going 347 00:19:59,267 --> 00:20:01,267 Speaker 4: in my my boocket right now. 348 00:20:01,307 --> 00:20:02,867 Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to playing. 349 00:20:02,867 --> 00:20:05,947 Speaker 4: I still playing on the Legends Tour over fifteen now 350 00:20:06,067 --> 00:20:08,427 Speaker 4: you know, came close to winning last week, so you know, 351 00:20:08,547 --> 00:20:10,987 Speaker 4: I was bit to normal, you could say. 352 00:20:11,547 --> 00:20:13,387 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty excited for the next you know, five 353 00:20:13,467 --> 00:20:14,027 Speaker 3: or six years. 354 00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:17,107 Speaker 2: Salwe Michael Salway. Look, I can't wait to see this 355 00:20:17,227 --> 00:20:20,867 Speaker 2: doco premiering tonight on sky dere to be different than 356 00:20:20,867 --> 00:20:24,067 Speaker 2: Michael Campbell's story Mate. Thank you so much for your 357 00:20:24,067 --> 00:20:28,067 Speaker 2: time this afternoon, and all the best for many many 358 00:20:28,107 --> 00:20:29,947 Speaker 2: more chapters in your life to come. 359 00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:31,347 Speaker 3: Yeah. 360 00:20:31,387 --> 00:20:33,347 Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks, Jason. I want to say that, you know, 361 00:20:33,507 --> 00:20:38,427 Speaker 4: thanks to Golf Warehouse and Kellaway Golf for sponsoring the documentary. 362 00:20:38,667 --> 00:20:41,267 Speaker 4: I'm coming back actually eating New Zealands. I'm very excited 363 00:20:41,267 --> 00:20:44,827 Speaker 4: about it. I'm playing Foxy's tournament, Chasing the Fox and 364 00:20:44,907 --> 00:20:49,467 Speaker 4: Auckland on the twelfth, twelfth of December, so I'm looking 365 00:20:49,467 --> 00:20:51,827 Speaker 4: forward to seeing all Foxy because I haven't seen Foxy 366 00:20:51,867 --> 00:20:53,427 Speaker 4: since he won a couple of times now on the 367 00:20:53,427 --> 00:20:57,067 Speaker 4: PGA Tour, catching up with my old sponsors Muka Honey, 368 00:20:58,067 --> 00:21:01,827 Speaker 4: you know, and playing with Joe Parker I believe as 369 00:21:01,867 --> 00:21:04,947 Speaker 4: one of the one of my partners of the Manuka 370 00:21:05,227 --> 00:21:09,467 Speaker 4: Honey in the Nika Handy team. Looking forward to catching 371 00:21:09,547 --> 00:21:11,227 Speaker 4: up for all the other celebrities I haven't seen for 372 00:21:11,267 --> 00:21:13,907 Speaker 4: a long time. So I'm really excited to come back 373 00:21:13,907 --> 00:21:17,427 Speaker 4: to New Zealand's been christ with my family. So yeah, 374 00:21:17,507 --> 00:21:21,667 Speaker 4: let's do it. I mean, just hopefully you're I know 375 00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:23,867 Speaker 4: you'll enjoy that the documentary. It's going to be a 376 00:21:23,907 --> 00:21:24,627 Speaker 4: little bit different. 377 00:21:24,867 --> 00:21:25,307 Speaker 3: It's going to. 378 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,787 Speaker 4: Pour a few heart strings, but also it's going to 379 00:21:30,787 --> 00:21:34,547 Speaker 4: come across a little bit different than the most because 380 00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:38,867 Speaker 4: it's pretty. It gets down to the nitty gritty of 381 00:21:39,547 --> 00:21:43,187 Speaker 4: how I became who I am as a golfer and 382 00:21:43,267 --> 00:21:43,907 Speaker 4: as a person. 383 00:21:44,027 --> 00:21:45,507 Speaker 3: So everyone enjoys us. 384 00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:46,347 Speaker 2: I know we will. 385 00:21:46,707 --> 00:21:47,227 Speaker 3: Great stuff. 386 00:21:47,227 --> 00:21:50,907 Speaker 2: Michael, Thanks again, mate, cheers, mate, thank you, no, thank you, Michael, 387 00:21:51,227 --> 00:21:55,507 Speaker 2: Michael Campbell. There dare to be different than Michael Campbell's 388 00:21:55,507 --> 00:21:59,427 Speaker 2: story premieres tonight on Sky Sport three at seven o'clock. 389 00:22:00,187 --> 00:22:03,307 Speaker 2: It is a cracker. I have been very lucky to 390 00:22:03,347 --> 00:22:06,107 Speaker 2: have been sent a bit of an advanced copy to 391 00:22:06,147 --> 00:22:11,227 Speaker 2: have a look at. It is terrific. It is so good, 392 00:22:11,387 --> 00:22:15,387 Speaker 2: and not just the footage of Michael Campbell winning the 393 00:22:15,547 --> 00:22:17,827 Speaker 2: US Open in two thousand and five and then going 394 00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:20,827 Speaker 2: back to relive it, but the stuff from his hometown 395 00:22:20,987 --> 00:22:25,627 Speaker 2: Tetahie Bay, just out of Pottydoer in Wellington's northern suburbs. 396 00:22:25,667 --> 00:22:29,827 Speaker 2: It's just so good. Huge congrats to the team at 397 00:22:29,827 --> 00:22:33,547 Speaker 2: Sports Inc. Led by Kelson Butler, Randall Monroe a big 398 00:22:33,587 --> 00:22:34,467 Speaker 2: part of it as well. 399 00:22:34,547 --> 00:22:34,987 Speaker 3: It is. 400 00:22:36,827 --> 00:22:39,027 Speaker 2: I cannot say enough about it and how much you 401 00:22:39,027 --> 00:22:40,787 Speaker 2: will enjoy it. It's also going to be on sky 402 00:22:40,907 --> 00:22:43,707 Speaker 2: Open later in the year, so those without access to 403 00:22:43,867 --> 00:22:46,467 Speaker 2: Skysport will have the chance to watch it on Fredo 404 00:22:46,507 --> 00:22:48,907 Speaker 2: Wear as well. But yeah, tonight at seven o'clock Skysport 405 00:22:48,907 --> 00:22:52,027 Speaker 2: three is when at Premiers. It's got obviously a lot 406 00:22:52,027 --> 00:22:54,947 Speaker 2: of Michael Campbell in it, but interviews with the likes 407 00:22:54,947 --> 00:22:58,667 Speaker 2: of Ernie Els were Steffhurson, Colin Montgomery, Kiwi Icon SA 408 00:22:58,747 --> 00:23:01,707 Speaker 2: Bob Charles, Ryan Foxes and at Steve Williams. Steve Williams, 409 00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:04,827 Speaker 2: of course was on Tiger Woods Bag the day that 410 00:23:04,947 --> 00:23:07,867 Speaker 2: Michael Campbell won the US Open, when the two of 411 00:23:07,907 --> 00:23:10,627 Speaker 2: them were going head to head down the final stretch 412 00:23:10,627 --> 00:23:14,147 Speaker 2: of six or seven holes, and there's some awesome footage 413 00:23:14,147 --> 00:23:20,027 Speaker 2: of Steve Williams congratulating Michael Campbell afterwards. It's just yes 414 00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:22,787 Speaker 2: to say, it's awesome. It's really really good. So again, 415 00:23:22,907 --> 00:23:25,627 Speaker 2: congratulations to the team at Sports Inc. For producing it 416 00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:28,507 Speaker 2: in a massive thanks to Michael Campbell for making himself 417 00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:30,747 Speaker 2: available for such an extended period of time. 418 00:23:31,387 --> 00:23:34,547 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 419 00:23:34,667 --> 00:23:37,947 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B Weekends from midday or follow 420 00:23:37,987 --> 00:23:39,587 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.