1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: from Newstalk z'b. 3 00:00:13,933 --> 00:00:16,053 Speaker 2: Nineteen past nine on news Talks, z'd be thank you 4 00:00:16,133 --> 00:00:18,573 Speaker 2: very much for your messages, Jack. Not sure what you're 5 00:00:18,613 --> 00:00:21,053 Speaker 2: so excited about. Big deal you used AI for the 6 00:00:21,053 --> 00:00:24,333 Speaker 2: first time, by the sounds yawn. No, I've used the 7 00:00:24,453 --> 00:00:27,213 Speaker 2: chat bots lots. So I've used the likes of chat 8 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:29,933 Speaker 2: GBT and GEM and I and ask them questions, use 9 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:33,093 Speaker 2: them for searchers, you know, got them to write up 10 00:00:33,093 --> 00:00:35,493 Speaker 2: all sorts of things. But this is the first time 11 00:00:35,533 --> 00:00:37,373 Speaker 2: I'd ever got it to code something. That's first time 12 00:00:37,373 --> 00:00:39,853 Speaker 2: I'd ever got it to make a program, to make 13 00:00:39,893 --> 00:00:44,613 Speaker 2: an app, to make a website, and it was impressive. Honestly, 14 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:48,413 Speaker 2: it was impressive. Jack. Vibe coding equals security issues like 15 00:00:48,493 --> 00:00:52,173 Speaker 2: manage my health, says Bob. Yeah, look, I'm not I'm 16 00:00:52,173 --> 00:00:55,973 Speaker 2: not really qualified to speak as to the security status 17 00:00:55,973 --> 00:00:57,973 Speaker 2: of my vibe coding, but certainly I think if you 18 00:00:58,013 --> 00:01:01,893 Speaker 2: were doing anything that was involving really private information or 19 00:01:01,893 --> 00:01:04,533 Speaker 2: credit card details, etc. You would want to make sure 20 00:01:04,573 --> 00:01:07,213 Speaker 2: you knew what you were doing. Bob Vehicle ninety ninety two. 21 00:01:07,213 --> 00:01:08,733 Speaker 2: I'll get to more of your messages in a few minutes. 22 00:01:08,733 --> 00:01:10,933 Speaker 2: It's twenty past nine and Kevin Milne is with us 23 00:01:10,973 --> 00:01:11,493 Speaker 2: this morning. 24 00:01:11,973 --> 00:01:15,453 Speaker 3: Kevin calder Jack. You know, every Saturday morning, I get 25 00:01:15,453 --> 00:01:18,173 Speaker 3: to my seat a few minutes early to listen to 26 00:01:18,213 --> 00:01:22,053 Speaker 3: your piece so that I can, well, I always enjoy them, 27 00:01:22,493 --> 00:01:26,093 Speaker 3: but also offer some sort of comment at the end 28 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:29,333 Speaker 3: of it, you know, Yeah, add my little bit. 29 00:01:30,093 --> 00:01:32,333 Speaker 2: And you're going to say you have no comment. 30 00:01:34,253 --> 00:01:39,893 Speaker 3: Exactly. I'd love to comment, but I have nothing to 31 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:42,253 Speaker 3: add to what you've said. Well, not a thing, not 32 00:01:42,333 --> 00:01:42,733 Speaker 3: a word. 33 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:45,493 Speaker 2: All I'm trying to say is that if you are 34 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:49,413 Speaker 2: not particularly technical, and I'm I'm I'm I you know, 35 00:01:49,453 --> 00:01:51,173 Speaker 2: I would say that I'm like I said about par 36 00:01:51,373 --> 00:01:53,853 Speaker 2: for my age, stage and profession, right, so I'm probably 37 00:01:53,853 --> 00:01:56,573 Speaker 2: a bit more technical and some of our listeners, and 38 00:01:56,653 --> 00:01:58,933 Speaker 2: probably a bit less than some of our listeners as well. 39 00:01:59,893 --> 00:02:03,413 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that the consumer products now are 40 00:02:03,493 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 2: so good that theoretically anyone can go and build anything. 41 00:02:08,213 --> 00:02:12,453 Speaker 2: So you, Kevin, could go and just using English language prompts, 42 00:02:12,653 --> 00:02:14,893 Speaker 2: you could write into a box and say build me 43 00:02:15,893 --> 00:02:18,813 Speaker 2: Kevinmilne dot com, and here's what I wanted to do, 44 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:22,133 Speaker 2: and you could just write really basic English instructions and 45 00:02:22,173 --> 00:02:24,853 Speaker 2: it would go and do it. And we've never been 46 00:02:24,893 --> 00:02:28,613 Speaker 2: at a point with technology where you could do that. Yeah, 47 00:02:28,653 --> 00:02:31,773 Speaker 2: and you just think about the things that opens up 48 00:02:31,853 --> 00:02:34,813 Speaker 2: to the world, you know. Yeah, and it's it is 49 00:02:34,893 --> 00:02:37,293 Speaker 2: quite you know, it is quite remarkable, honestly. 50 00:02:37,613 --> 00:02:37,813 Speaker 3: Yeah. 51 00:02:37,893 --> 00:02:40,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, But yeah, you've been focused on something else this week, 52 00:02:41,053 --> 00:02:43,693 Speaker 2: something a little more, a little less cutting edge, but 53 00:02:43,813 --> 00:02:46,613 Speaker 2: very much cutting nonetheless. Spearfishing. 54 00:02:47,373 --> 00:02:52,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, today the North Island Spearfishing Champs. They've just got 55 00:02:52,733 --> 00:02:56,493 Speaker 3: on the underway at nine o'clock this morning at Paraproomu Beach, 56 00:02:56,693 --> 00:03:00,453 Speaker 3: just down the beach from where I live. I've never 57 00:03:00,493 --> 00:03:03,813 Speaker 3: done any spearfishing, and clearly it's not a particularly good 58 00:03:03,853 --> 00:03:09,213 Speaker 3: spectator sport, but I do suddenly have an interest. That's 59 00:03:09,293 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 3: because once the fishing ends at three o'clock and the 60 00:03:12,973 --> 00:03:17,293 Speaker 3: prizes are presented, all the fish that's caught goes up 61 00:03:17,293 --> 00:03:23,413 Speaker 3: for auction, and I love eating fish. Apparently two hundred 62 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:26,973 Speaker 3: and fifty to three hundred and fifty fish are expected 63 00:03:27,053 --> 00:03:29,293 Speaker 3: to go under the hammer, as it were. That's out 64 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:32,973 Speaker 3: the name. That's a tone of fish, literally and it 65 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:39,493 Speaker 3: should include oh some crayfish and kenner. So what I 66 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:41,653 Speaker 3: have in mind is the wander down by a damn 67 00:03:41,693 --> 00:03:44,413 Speaker 3: good looking fish that sets out of the sea, wander 68 00:03:44,413 --> 00:03:48,173 Speaker 3: back home and barbecue it. You might be one with Jacob, 69 00:03:48,213 --> 00:03:52,453 Speaker 3: I know had a filat of fish. Well, no I don't, 70 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:55,133 Speaker 3: but I see that you can get filleting done before 71 00:03:55,213 --> 00:03:59,893 Speaker 3: you down there. What I really like about the event 72 00:04:00,093 --> 00:04:03,373 Speaker 3: is that all the proceeds of the auction goes to 73 00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:07,733 Speaker 3: Marry Potter Hospice, with is a great organ I love 74 00:04:07,813 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 3: these fundraisers where you feel more like you're getting than 75 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:15,973 Speaker 3: you're giving. Excuse me, of course, hats off to all 76 00:04:16,013 --> 00:04:20,733 Speaker 3: the spearfishes that are taking part into the Capity Underwater 77 00:04:20,813 --> 00:04:23,933 Speaker 3: Club that are organized it all. I could never give 78 00:04:23,973 --> 00:04:27,293 Speaker 3: away any fish that I caught, so much work involved, 79 00:04:27,733 --> 00:04:30,653 Speaker 3: so well done to them. I've never been to a 80 00:04:30,733 --> 00:04:33,853 Speaker 3: fresh auction before, so I'm looking forward to heading down 81 00:04:33,893 --> 00:04:37,853 Speaker 3: to part of promo beats this afternoon. If any listeners, 82 00:04:37,893 --> 00:04:40,213 Speaker 3: if you live in the Wellington region, I look forward 83 00:04:40,253 --> 00:04:43,373 Speaker 3: to seeing you there at four. And they don't bit 84 00:04:43,453 --> 00:04:46,853 Speaker 3: against me if you can. And Jack, I can't get 85 00:04:46,893 --> 00:04:51,733 Speaker 3: out of my mind what a reasonable sized fresh crayfish 86 00:04:52,293 --> 00:04:53,573 Speaker 3: might sell for an auction. 87 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:58,293 Speaker 2: I would have thought it's so hard I don't know. 88 00:04:58,493 --> 00:05:00,893 Speaker 2: So first of all, are crayfish going to be there, 89 00:05:00,893 --> 00:05:02,293 Speaker 2: because this is spearfishing, right. 90 00:05:02,813 --> 00:05:05,933 Speaker 3: So yeah, but they know, they say, they say it 91 00:05:05,933 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 3: shouldn't the auction should include some crasner. 92 00:05:09,693 --> 00:05:12,693 Speaker 2: Okay, well, well I would have thought that the crayfish, 93 00:05:12,853 --> 00:05:15,293 Speaker 2: I would hope is fetching a higher price than the kenner. 94 00:05:16,693 --> 00:05:20,973 Speaker 2: But is I don't know, seventy eighty dollars Is that 95 00:05:20,973 --> 00:05:21,413 Speaker 2: too much? 96 00:05:21,773 --> 00:05:25,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, it's I think if I could grab 97 00:05:25,453 --> 00:05:29,293 Speaker 3: one of that radio, i'd be pretty happy. Yeah, reasonable size. 98 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:31,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all It's all kind of size based, 99 00:05:31,133 --> 00:05:33,293 Speaker 2: doesn't it. But yeah, I mean it'd be very interesting 100 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:36,533 Speaker 2: to see how what sort of strategy you have to apply, 101 00:05:36,813 --> 00:05:39,173 Speaker 2: you know, if over the course of the auction, if 102 00:05:39,173 --> 00:05:41,453 Speaker 2: they stagger things and then things near the ind goo 103 00:05:41,493 --> 00:05:43,133 Speaker 2: for a lot more than stuff at the you know 104 00:05:43,173 --> 00:05:45,933 Speaker 2: early on there's there's always a bit of game theory involved. 105 00:05:45,933 --> 00:05:46,973 Speaker 2: Given that. I'm sure you've. 106 00:05:46,933 --> 00:05:51,053 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I should account, yes, yeah, yeah, very good, 107 00:05:51,453 --> 00:05:52,693 Speaker 3: I've got twill four o'clock. 108 00:05:53,013 --> 00:05:54,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great. 109 00:05:54,973 --> 00:05:57,013 Speaker 3: To a fresh auction. What a nice thing to do 110 00:05:57,053 --> 00:05:57,773 Speaker 3: on Saturday. 111 00:05:57,893 --> 00:06:00,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you say, for a really good course 112 00:06:00,253 --> 00:06:02,493 Speaker 2: given Hey, thank you for that. Give a melm with 113 00:06:02,573 --> 00:06:04,613 Speaker 2: us this morning, and thank you very much for your messages. 114 00:06:04,693 --> 00:06:07,653 Speaker 2: Jack Claude could possibly be announcing on your radio show 115 00:06:07,653 --> 00:06:10,893 Speaker 2: five years from now. Thus many jobs will be getting replaced. 116 00:06:11,253 --> 00:06:14,013 Speaker 2: It is hard not to use these systems and imagine 117 00:06:14,133 --> 00:06:17,533 Speaker 2: that lots of kind of grunt work, white collar jobs, 118 00:06:17,973 --> 00:06:23,213 Speaker 2: you know, like legal assistant jobs. You know, some accountancy 119 00:06:23,253 --> 00:06:25,413 Speaker 2: practices are already kind of heading this way, aren't they. 120 00:06:25,573 --> 00:06:27,093 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine that it's not going to be 121 00:06:27,173 --> 00:06:30,693 Speaker 2: really disruptive. Some of this AI tech, Jack, AI has 122 00:06:30,693 --> 00:06:34,333 Speaker 2: a serious trade off of eternal lost privacy and confidentiality 123 00:06:34,373 --> 00:06:38,453 Speaker 2: which cannot be trusted, protected or retrieved. And Jack, this 124 00:06:38,493 --> 00:06:41,773 Speaker 2: country's falling behind. We need to put billions into AI now. 125 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:44,413 Speaker 2: Sins been, that's where the money is. That's what's going 126 00:06:44,493 --> 00:06:46,213 Speaker 2: to drive our economic recovery. 127 00:06:46,773 --> 00:06:49,893 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 128 00:06:49,973 --> 00:06:52,813 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd b from nine am Saturday, or 129 00:06:52,893 --> 00:06:54,773 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.