1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Darling, Tana is fighting for her political life at the moment. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The former Green MP has filed an injunction trying to 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: stop her former party, the Greens, from convening a special 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: general meeting this weekend. Now, this meeting was where delegates 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: were supposed to decide whether to invoke the Wacker jumping 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: law against Darlene Tanner. Jason Walls as News Talk zb's 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: political letter to Jason. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Hellow Afternoon Heather, the Greens. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Made it sound like they were surprised, but they must 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: have seen this coming from that letter just a few 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: weeks back. 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I don't think that they did. I mean, 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: it's a pretty unprecedented move. I mean it's the sort 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: of move that somebody with their back against the wall makes, 15 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: just really fighting for their political life. Looking at this 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: really holistically, it's a really hard legal stretch to make. 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Do you're basically saying that you're putting an injunction on 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: a asking the courts to prevent a political party from meeting. Now, 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: we don't know the details of what's happening, but I 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: actually we talked to Chloe Swarbeck. I will give her 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: that she didn't seem too worried about this. I mean, 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: her lawyer is working for free, and here's why our 23 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: lawyer is operating on a pro bono basis. I haven't 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: got into the details of the motivations behind that. I'm 25 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: assuming that this is a pretty interesting case. So if 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: your lawyer's working because it's an interesting case, it doesn't 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: exactly scream like you're really worried about what's happening. But 28 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: I would say yes, I would say that they probably 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: didn't see this aspect of this coming. But I don't 30 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: think that they're particularly worried. 31 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Well they should have. I mean, it was obvious to 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: everybody that there was legal action coming after that letter 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: in the way it was set out. So surprise by 34 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: that is the meeting at the weekend still honor If 35 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: they canceled it. 36 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's at this stage. It's a bit of Schrodinger's 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: meeting because it's not on or off. At this stage. 38 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: They're just waiting to see what happens. I mean, they 39 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: haven't canceled it or they haven't postponed it. They're just 40 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: simply waiting to see what happens tomorrow. And just back 41 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: on your point there, I mean, listen, we all knew 42 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: that more legal action was coming, but I was thinking 43 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: the legal action would be around the actual legislation to 44 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: do with the walker jumping and how that actually physically 45 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: worked in terms of an employee or somebody in a 46 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: political party, and how that worked. Because we haven't tested 47 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: this rule yet. I think everybody was pretty surprised that 48 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: the next step on this on Tana's radar was essentially 49 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: asking the courts to prevent members from meeting. I think 50 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: that is quite unprecedented. 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, now who's paying? I mean, if the Greens are 52 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: getting their legal representation for free, who's paying Darleene's bills. 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: Well, we haven't been able to get in contact with 54 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: darleyn Tana yet. I have texted her, so Darleene, if 55 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: you're listening, please text me back so I can get 56 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: some information. But essentially we don't know. We would assume 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: that she has access to her the fund in Parliament 58 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: to pay for this. I asked her directly before when 59 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: she sent the letter to the Green Party fighting for 60 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: her case against the walker jumping bill. She said that 61 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: had been paid for using the parliamentary fund. You can 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: make the logical assumption that it's the same thing. I mean, 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: she could have somebody that's also quite interested in this 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: doing it pro bono as well, So we just don't 65 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: know at this stage. But I'd say I don't think 66 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: it would be with outside the realms of possibility that 67 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: it's us picking up the tab here as tax pays. 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: And have they indicated how long they think this is 69 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: going to take? 70 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Decision will be coming out tomorrow afternoon, as I understand it. 71 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: It's just for the for a judge to just look 72 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: at the facts and make a decision, so we should 73 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: know around about ten, I would say tomorrow. I'm not 74 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: sure if they would drag on. But this isn't going 75 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: to be the end of this saga. I mean, if 76 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: the injunction fails, which you know you're looking at the 77 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: balance of probability, it looks like it may. She still 78 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: will probably fight in courts the actual the meat and 79 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: bones of the legislation, which hasn't been tested yet, and 80 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: so you would expect that it's an interesting legal argument 81 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: for anyone to get into. 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: No, totally, thank you very much. Jason really appreciated Jesson 83 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Will's news talks, DB's political editor. 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