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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's hither

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected news talk, said be Hy.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome to the show. Coming up today One

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Speaker 3: Direction star Liam Payne is dead at thirty one. We're

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Speaker 3: going to go to Buenos Aares and find out what happened.

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Speaker 3: It's d day for Darlene. Can the Greens though get

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Speaker 3: the seventy five percent? They need to kick her out

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Speaker 3: of the party. Bryce Edwards on that, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Southland District Mayor Rob Scott about they've

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Speaker 3: been cracked down on the bad dog owners.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless out right.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Jasinda today. Chris Hopkins said that we

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Speaker 3: need to bring Jacinda back into New Zealand public life

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Speaker 3: and we need to use her to advocate for New

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Speaker 3: Zealand on the global stage and he thinks it's mad

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Speaker 3: that the current government hasn't done that. And to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I agree with Chippy on this, like I know there

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Speaker 3: is not It was an understatement to say there is

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Speaker 3: not universal luve for Jacinda in this country, but it

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Speaker 3: is not the same overseas. They love her. I mean,

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Speaker 3: her getting the damehood overnight is in every single newspaper

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Speaker 3: never even heard of before. It's in the UK Telegraph,

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Speaker 3: It's in Mine Food magazine, The Times in the UK

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Speaker 3: nine in Australia, the Guardian, People dot com msn the

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Speaker 3: Illawarra Mercury, of all places, has got the story in

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Speaker 3: there William and Kate. And this says a lot. I

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Speaker 3: think William and Kate even put together a video of

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Speaker 3: her getting the damehood and then put that video out

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Speaker 3: on their official social medias. And what that tells you

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Speaker 3: is William and Kate think that Jacinda is so popular

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Speaker 3: they want to be connected and associated with her. That

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Speaker 3: is how big she is overseas. And frankly, if we're

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Speaker 3: can get because since her government ironically, our desirability as

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Speaker 3: We are in reasonable economic trouble right so the least

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Speaker 3: And we need a hell of a lot of pr

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Speaker 3: us out. And I frankly cannot think of anybody better

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Speaker 3: videos and hosting cocktail parties and talking to investors on

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Speaker 3: our behalf to get them interested in us again. Now

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Speaker 3: we're are part Chippy, part company with Chippy on this

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Speaker 3: is that he thinks, by the sounds of things, all

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Speaker 3: New Zealand public life, and we're all completely unfair on her.

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Speaker 3: And I do not agree with him on that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: honest with himself about it. The woman is frankly single

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Speaker 3: handedly undermining her own credibility in New Zealand right just

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Speaker 3: accepting the award at Windsor is unbelievably hypocritical. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is from a woman who's a professed Republican who

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Speaker 3: the future King himself. I mean, give me a break.

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Speaker 3: That's just too much. And then on top of that,

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Speaker 3: this is the ire about child poverty. Lady who last

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Speaker 3: the country, but meanwhile as making megabucks for herself overseas

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Speaker 3: And PS also has taken an honor for services to

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Speaker 3: You know how I feel about the thing, right we

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Speaker 3: what I think, despite what you think, the world loves her.

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Speaker 3: And so I agree with Chippy, we should actually be

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Speaker 2: Would together do for Sea Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. I don't

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Speaker 3: the way. Now, chances are you or someone that you

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Speaker 3: know has recently brought something from Timu. This is this

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Speaker 3: Chinese online retailer Popularities going through the roof new research

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Speaker 3: from tearfun to New Zealand reckons one and four of

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Speaker 3: also Today's called TEMU zero for failing to protect workers

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Speaker 3: how are you we had good? Thank you you bought

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Speaker 4: the one million of us that have bought from TIMU,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's such a good example for me.

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Speaker 4: I was buying stuff from my daughter's birthday party and

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Speaker 5: Clothes or other things.

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Speaker 4: From places that we know may not be treating work

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Speaker 3: So what is TEMU doing to their workers in the

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, it's really hard to tell because TIMU

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Speaker 4: So if you pop on their website, it's really hard

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Speaker 4: being treated. But different investigations outside of Tearfunds research have

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Speaker 3: And is this against their wishes? Are they being compelled

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Speaker 4: In some cases they are so. Tim has also been

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what does it tell you about the fact

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Speaker 3: there's probably some weird and dodgy stuff going on. Does

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Speaker 3: it make Are you demoralized by the fact that we

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Speaker 4: I think it's quite natural in many ways.

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Speaker 3: How do you get around that?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: Well, one, I think it's helpful for us to raise

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Speaker 4: We're talking about TIMU, and I don't think a lot

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Speaker 4: So companies really need to take responsibility for human rights

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Speaker 4: to see the government legislate to make it a legal

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Speaker 3: Was the stuff that you got from timu any good? Well,

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Speaker 3: my daughter loved it birthday party, so well there you go. Clear, listen,

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Speaker 3: thank you. I appreciated clear great education and a because

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Speaker 3: If they love Justinta so much, let her stay there.

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Speaker 3: It's so bad it's force traffic to a standstill because

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leaf for business,

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Speaker 3: Darcy watergrab Sports Talk Coasters with me. Hello, I'm really.

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Speaker 7: Looking forward to this weekend because the Formula one is

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Speaker 7: on and that is my sole purpose of the weekend

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Speaker 7: is watching Liam Lawson in Formula One. In fact, this

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Speaker 7: talk about that. It's in Texas, so I thought, and

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Speaker 7: he's got a penalty. Yeah, he does have a penalty

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Speaker 7: because of the engine change. So that's a hangover from

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Speaker 7: Daniel Ricardo. So it is what it is. I suppose

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Speaker 7: it takes a bit of pressure of him to start with,

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Speaker 3: He's got something to play, he's got something to play.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Darcy and the Cricket India have won the toss.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither Duper c

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Speaker 3: That'd be four twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Some of the biggest news globally today is that Liam Payne,

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Speaker 3: Buenosarides will be with us just after five o'clock. Heather,

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Speaker 3: That ja Cinda should be offering her help to clean

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Speaker 3: So you know, if you're not triggered already, which we

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Speaker 1: Day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather duper ce allan

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Speaker 8: Be Poster I wor against Is your truck great?

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Speaker 10: Isn't your part my ditors fun house?

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Speaker 3: It's the d day for Darlene after is it aufter seven?

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Speaker 4: Laura?

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Speaker 3: Is it after seven?

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Speaker 3: Six thirty? Having a meeting at six thirty The Greens

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Speaker 3: are I'm gonna have a chat about Darlene, what to

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Speaker 3: but if you listen to Chloe's comments in advance of

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Speaker 3: on that, and then Bryce Edwards political commentator. We'll let

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. I like this. The Southland District Council is

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Speaker 3: taking a really hard line on dogs, bad dogs and

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Speaker 3: no more chances? What does that mean? Twenty three away

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: The entertainment world has reacted with shocked to the unexpected

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Speaker 11: I cannot imagine how that feels. I mean not only

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Speaker 3: Well how about this. Kamala Harris is going to sit

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Speaker 12: Sparring practically within hours of taking the earth was a

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Speaker 12: for this, but you have.

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Speaker 3: To let me finish.

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Speaker 2: You had the White House and the House and the

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Speaker 3: And finally, a driver in California has been caught out

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind

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Speaker 3: Mariol's Algy correspondents with that's hey mas, good afternoon, Heathers.

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Speaker 3: Your unemployments stayed at four point one.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I suppose good news, bad news for interest rates

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Speaker 13: as well. Unemployment well four point one on September, same

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Speaker 13: In many many cases, it's the same economists I've slapped

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Speaker 3: Now, explain to me how it is that Star Casino

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Speaker 13: casino employs nine thousand people. Now that's a lot of

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Speaker 13: pay packets and a lot of jobs that would be

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Speaker 13: lost if the casino's license was taken away. They've tried

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Speaker 13: new management that didn't work out that well, and of

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Speaker 13: course spectacular findings of basically illegal conduct. I mean apparently

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Speaker 13: you know, if you believe the or the reporting, basically

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Speaker 13: Star was turning a blind eye to industrial scale money

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Speaker 13: laundering by who knows, God knows who were they? Druggies

444
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Speaker 13: were they? I mean, who knows who these people were.

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Speaker 13: It was call caught on security cameras rocking up at

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Speaker 13: the place where you you know, you you know, you

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Speaker 13: buy chips, and they're opening suitcases full of money, all

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Speaker 13: bundled up. Now, if if you're not smelling a whole

449
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Speaker 13: bloody army of rats, I mean, there's something wrong so anyway, look,

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Speaker 13: they're still very unhappy with the way the joints being run,

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Speaker 13: but it's the sixteenth fifteen million dollar fine and they're

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Speaker 13: going to be allowed to keep going, albeit with that

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Speaker 13: license still suspended.

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Speaker 3: Well, what does it mean to be too big to fail?

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Speaker 13: Well, you know nine thousand jobs. That was the single

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Speaker 13: biggest reason cited by the guy in charge the casino regulator.

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Speaker 14: You can't have people.

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Speaker 3: That's just basically given the really big guy's a license

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Speaker 3: to be a bit naughty, isn't that.

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Speaker 13: Well, look they have got this administrator in there. It's

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Speaker 13: not as those management is allowed to keep going willy nilly.

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Speaker 13: You know, a lot big corporate lunches and long stretch limousines.

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Speaker 13: They have got the regulator having a very very close

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Speaker 13: eye on this. Basically they don't want it to be

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Speaker 13: a big atm for crooks. And in the meantime, you've

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Speaker 13: got nine thousand people who are employed.

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Speaker 3: So okay, Now, how many of your politicians have flash

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Speaker 3: houses like Elbow?

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't know about that flash but the ABC

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Speaker 13: has done an analysis. There are two d and twenty

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Speaker 13: seven federal MPs and senators, and all but twelve have

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Speaker 13: at least one investment property. Two of them have seven

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Speaker 13: each ones a liberal ones of labor. You've got three,

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Speaker 13: had six, five have five. Only one rents and these

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Speaker 13: are the Greens. Any such a boaster? I rent my

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Speaker 13: place better. Mum and Dad have got a few in

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Speaker 13: his name. He's their housing spokesman. And it's all in

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Speaker 13: the Parliamentary registers. Here's the thing. Peter Dutton was listed

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Speaker 13: with five properties. I quoted that on Tuesday, but there's

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Speaker 13: been an updated register. He's down to just one. But

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Speaker 13: there's no record heather of the spouses, no ability to

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Speaker 13: appear into family trusts either. It's a really poor look

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Speaker 13: by Elbow in the middle of a housing crisis. But notably,

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Speaker 13: Peter Dutton said nothing about slapping Elbow this week because

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Speaker 13: he knows that a lot of his own side also

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Speaker 13: have multiple properties. The only people howling about it are

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Speaker 13: these freaks from the Murdoch Press and Sky News, all

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Speaker 13: tut tutting away, all all terrible, terrible, and maybe it

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Speaker 13: will be terrible come the election time. But look, it's

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Speaker 13: a bad look for Elbow. It's a lovely home though,

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Speaker 13: and maybe he's slipping the wind.

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Speaker 9: He might be out of a job.

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Speaker 3: Come by next year maybe so hey, thank you ms.

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Speaker 3: I always appreciate it. Murry Old's Australia correspondents. Back to

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Speaker 3: the Tamu thing here that we have an interest in

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Speaker 3: a clothing factory in China. If we didn't give our

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Speaker 3: staff at least three hundred and fifty hours a month,

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Speaker 3: they would leave. They would go somewhere that would give

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Speaker 3: them those hours. The staff come to the factory, stay

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Speaker 3: in dorms only to work as much as they can

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Speaker 3: to earn money, and then they go home again. This

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Speaker 3: is the thing, right, I mean, it's easy for us

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Speaker 3: in a developed country like I don't think anybody should

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Speaker 3: work three hundred and fifty hours a week obviously, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that they're in a position financially where that

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Speaker 3: is what they want to do. But in a developed

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Speaker 3: country US, look, we can't impose our values on them. Right,

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Speaker 3: for me, that would be outrageous. For you that would

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Speaker 3: be outrageous. But for them, if they're not being compelled

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Speaker 3: to do it, can we punish team for giving the

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Speaker 3: staff what they want. Barry Soaper is next sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, senior political correspondent with me, Hey, Barry.

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Speaker 9: They got a head they can.

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Speaker 15: I just take issue at the start with Jasindurn and

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Speaker 15: how she should be used offshore.

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Speaker 9: Yeah please, I don't agree.

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Speaker 3: I mean one of many listeners who are triggered.

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Speaker 9: Oh good, I don't.

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Speaker 15: Agree in the slightest. I think that Jasinda Durn's fame

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Speaker 15: is going to be very temporary. She may be friends

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Speaker 15: with William and Catherine, and that's why she got her

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Speaker 15: damehood there, which to me was disgrace anyway, if she

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Speaker 15: was proud of it, she should have taken it in

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Speaker 15: this country, not abroad. And the thing is the only

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Speaker 15: fame that Jacinda Durn got, and I traveled with her

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Speaker 15: all during her prime ministership. One was the ghastly Mosque

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Speaker 15: shooting where she cuddled the bereaved people of the victims

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Speaker 15: and Stephen Colbert in New York. I was in the

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Speaker 15: studio when he interviewed her. So she got some fame

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Speaker 15: out of that, and the media did indeed want to

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Speaker 15: see her because she was at the time a very

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Speaker 15: young prime minister. I think she was thirty seven. She

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Speaker 15: was unmarried. Then she became pregnant, so she was a novelty.

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Speaker 15: Today I don't think she's nearly the novelty she is,

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Speaker 15: and I, certainly as a KIWI, don't want to see

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Speaker 15: her representing us overseas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but fair enough, look, fair enough everybody. Everybody's got

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Speaker 3: really strong feelings about her one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: But if you think that her fame is going to

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Speaker 3: be fleeting, what is it that undoes her fame?

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Speaker 9: Oh, she'll now fade into oblivion.

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Speaker 15: Basically, she's got a dame hood, so I guess you

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Speaker 15: can use that to some extent. But she's working in

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Speaker 15: some fellowship in Harvard that's not going to make her

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Speaker 15: very famous. I I just don't see her. Maybe the

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Speaker 15: Christchurch Call meeting with mccron and Justin Trudeau her old mates,

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Speaker 15: but honestly, I just don't see that she's going to

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Speaker 15: maintain any fame. And what she says, what comes out

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Speaker 15: of her mouth is important and not a lot comes out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I think it's fair point to make that

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not a sustainable thing, right, You actually have

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Speaker 3: to have you actually have to do things in order

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Speaker 3: to sustain your fame. I think judging by what Samir

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Speaker 3: Brown has tried very hard to avoid talking about Wellington

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Speaker 3: City Council. But what he has said today does not

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Speaker 3: suggest that he's going to back off here.

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Speaker 2: Oh no.

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Speaker 15: And you know, when you look at after the meeting,

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Speaker 15: after he met with Tory van Au in the Beehive,

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Speaker 15: she said she expressed a wish that they wouldn't say

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Speaker 15: the council was shambolock and was unworkable, whereas in fact

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Speaker 15: Nikola Willis, who of course is an MP in the

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Speaker 15: Capitol even though she doesn't hold an electorate that's where

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Speaker 15: she lives, she has called it a shambles and I

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Speaker 15: think that says a lot about what this government's planning.

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Speaker 15: So Simeon Brown says he's now going away to have

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Speaker 15: a chat to his advisors. I think the advice is

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Speaker 15: probably already on his table, and that is to in

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Speaker 15: fact bring in at least an observer to this very

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Speaker 15: dysfunctional council. I heard Nikolae Young on this morning with

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Speaker 15: Mike Hosking and she said that she believes a an

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Speaker 15: observer at least should be brought in. And she's been

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Speaker 15: on that council a very long time, much longer than

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Speaker 15: Tory fano has been what's it.

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Speaker 3: With winniep and the Maori Party?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, they clash all the time.

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Speaker 15: And I think Winston Peters, you know, being a man

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Speaker 15: in his late seventies seventy eight, he finds it very

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Speaker 15: disrespectful the way he's treated by the Maldi Party, and

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Speaker 15: indeed in many occasions he is treated very badly. The

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Speaker 15: latest to and fro between Peters and It was Rawui

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Speaker 15: wait tea. It was over basically questioning Erica Stanford over

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Speaker 15: a Maldy language course. They really got stuck into each other,

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Speaker 15: but it was more going across the house rather than

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Speaker 15: speaking into the microphone. Here is how the fraka started.

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Speaker 16: It is important that teachers in front of students can

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Speaker 16: pronounce Marty names and use every day common phrase is

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Speaker 16: woven into their teaching. But this particular course was not

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Speaker 16: good value for money and contract better in the future.

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Speaker 17: Supplementary asked the Minnesota would students at the Little Maury

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Speaker 17: lessons learn more if they kept their mouths shut while

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Speaker 17: the teacher was talking.

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Speaker 13: House would come back to hang on, yeah, good, excellent,

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Speaker 13: go and have an argument outside.

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Speaker 15: You'd be quiet and here well, And it went on

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Speaker 15: and on, with Whitey Tea saying basically rising after that

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Speaker 15: exchange and saying that.

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Speaker 9: He was keen Winston.

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Speaker 15: Peter said that he wouldn't last five minutes. Whitey Ta said,

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Speaker 15: you wouldn't like last five seconds, mate, Peter said, you

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Speaker 15: wouldn't last five seconds, and to and fro went.

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Speaker 9: But you know it's not the sort of behavior.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't make it to the door.

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Speaker 9: Well that's where you'd come.

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Speaker 15: You might go out, but you'd come limping back. And

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Speaker 15: I mean Winston talks very tough. He caused people sunshine

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Speaker 15: when they get up his nose. But I don't think

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Speaker 15: I would be taking him on in any wrestling match anyway.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the thing about it is if you

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Speaker 3: had to place Ta b Odds on it already's got

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Speaker 3: the youth, but Winston's got the cunning.

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Speaker 9: But we shouldn't be doing that, should we? When it

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Speaker 9: comes to politicians, Well, I mean they started it. Do

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Speaker 9: you Reackon's Mike punch below the belt?

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Speaker 3: I know, I reckon Winston. I Reckon Winston's been in

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Speaker 3: a few dust ups in his times.

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you wouldn't even see it coming, and it

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Speaker 3: would be it would be just like an elbow to

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Speaker 3: the nose or something like that, you know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't. I wouldn't go into.

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Speaker 9: There would be no holds bad expression.

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Speaker 3: As you say, maybe below the belt. Hey, Barry, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, Barry so for seeing your political correspondent

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Speaker 3: seven away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. Some Mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 18: Acc and they've got themselves a seven billion dollar hole.

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Speaker 18: A SEC's chief executive was Megan Maine.

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Speaker 19: There's the money we spend during the year, which is

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Speaker 19: what we budget it. But the bigger factor is the

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Speaker 19: calculation of the lifetime cost of the injuries that have

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Speaker 19: already occurred, and that was big driver of that deficit.

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Speaker 18: I'm fifty nine years old, Megan. I've never claimed ACC

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Speaker 18: in my life. Am I some sort of freak?

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Speaker 19: Mike, you're certainly not a freak. Interestingly, though, you talk

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Speaker 19: about people falling over, falls are the most common cause

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Speaker 19: of injury. So if we could all stop.

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Speaker 18: Falling over, he adds, if we've learned nothing else out

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Speaker 18: of the interview today, Meghan, stop falling over. Back tomorrow

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Speaker 18: at six am, the mic asking breakfast with the rain

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Speaker 18: driver of the Lahn News.

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Speaker 2: Talk z b Hea.

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Speaker 3: The Barry's a legend for saying as it is, Regisinda,

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Speaker 3: love him, Heather, thank you Barry for telling the truth

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Speaker 3: about Justinda. I don't like deurn Heather, but what a

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Speaker 3: sour man this guy is. That's Barry. Obviously Barry your religion.

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Speaker 3: Barry for president. Go Barry absolutely right on the mark.

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Speaker 3: Readh blah blah blah blah. There we go. Yeah, somehow

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Speaker 3: knew I would be on the minority on the Justinda situation. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Chippy with us, Chris Hopkins with us after half past

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Speaker 3: five on that. Now, it doesn't sound like Tory's been

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Speaker 3: able to convince the government not to intervene in Wellington

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Speaker 3: City Council. So today was that she called for a

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Speaker 3: meeting with Simeon. Had the meeting with Simon at eight

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Speaker 3: thirty and she told Simeon everything was going to be

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Speaker 3: okay because she was going to have a reworked long

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Speaker 3: term plan by the end of the year. Now, there

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Speaker 3: is no way on God's Earth that she is going

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Speaker 3: to have a reworked long term plan by the end

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Speaker 3: of the year. She's dreaming she would have to come

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Speaker 3: up with a draft amended plan, she would have to

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Speaker 3: consult on a publicly, she would have to then debate

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Speaker 3: it with the council that can't get on with everything,

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Speaker 3: and then she would have to vote on it. And

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Speaker 3: that all it would have to be done within seventy

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Speaker 3: six days, which is the end of the year. And

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Speaker 3: I think when we count seventy six days, we are

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Speaker 3: counting the period between Christmas and you do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, come on, Tory, you're not going

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Speaker 3: to do it. Stop telling Porlky's anyway. He's clearly not

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Speaker 3: buying it either, because even though he didn't want to

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Speaker 3: talk about it when he came, he got busted by

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Speaker 3: some of the media at the airport and he was

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Speaker 3: you're not convinced she.

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Speaker 8: Gave an explanation in terms of the situation.

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Speaker 6: But I think the reality is that, you know, when

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Speaker 6: our counsel is relitigating an entirety of its long term

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Speaker 6: plan that could have a significant impact on rate payers,

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Speaker 6: that is concerning.

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Speaker 20: We're waiting on that advice.

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Speaker 21: We're expecting it shortly.

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Speaker 22: Now.

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Speaker 3: That advice is going to come within the next one

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Speaker 3: or two days. Apparently they may vote on it at cabinet.

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Speaker 3: Will discuss it at Cabinet on Monday, but it may

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Speaker 3: also be Monday week, so we'll see what happens. But

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Speaker 3: I think, look, Tim Brown is gonna Tim Brown's gonna

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Speaker 3: buy me a glass of beer right because I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: win this bed. The government's clearly going to intervene. Listen,

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Speaker 3: Dday for Darlene Today we're talking to Bryce Edwards straight

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Speaker 3: after the news and then we're heading to Bornostotus to

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Speaker 3: find out what happened to Limpayne.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

696
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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts and.

697
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Speaker 2: Give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather due to clam Drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected and New Talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. So it is D Day for former Green MP

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Speaker 3: Darlene Tan of the Greens will meet in about an

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Speaker 3: hour and a half to vote on whether to invoke

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Speaker 3: the Waker jumping legislation and boot her out of parliament now.

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Speaker 3: Darline took the party to court last month to argue

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Speaker 3: that their disciplinary process had been unlawed. A judge rejected

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Speaker 3: her claims. She's now taken it to the Court of Appeal.

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Speaker 3: Meeting still going ahead regardless political analyst ed Bryce Edwards

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Speaker 3: is with me, now, Hay, Bryce, Hi, Heather. Do you

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Speaker 3: reckon they've got the seventy five percent?

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Speaker 22: Oh, No, one's going to know till about eight thirty.

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Speaker 22: But I would guess they have got it, because why

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Speaker 22: would they just continue with this process if they didn't

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Speaker 22: have confidence that they would get something like that, Because

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Speaker 22: you know, this has been so embarrassing for the Greens

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Speaker 22: and it's just dragged on and on, and I mean,

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Speaker 22: I think they should have stepped back from this many

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Speaker 22: months ago and avoided all embarrassment. But now they've gone

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Speaker 22: down the path they I think Chloes Warbrick would really

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Speaker 22: need to know that she's got the backing of activisties

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Speaker 22: to not take defeat.

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Speaker 3: Bryce, I agree with you. I think I think doing

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Speaker 3: this at all was a mistake. But do you think

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Speaker 3: going down the democratic path and getting everybody to have

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Speaker 3: a Kumbaya session about it was a mistake or just

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Speaker 3: trying to kck her out with the Wacker jumping legislation

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Speaker 3: at all was a mistake.

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Speaker 22: Look, look, they had to do that. That's in their constitution.

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Speaker 22: That yes, the law says you need two thirds of

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Speaker 22: the caucus to vote to do this and the Greens

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Speaker 22: have an add on to make it a bit more democratic.

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Speaker 22: That's seventy five percent of the base, the activist base

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Speaker 22: have to do.

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Speaker 3: So they should have just left her up there in Siberia.

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Speaker 22: Of course they should have. This has been so embarrassing.

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Speaker 22: I mean, it is actually an unprincipled thing for the

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Speaker 22: Greens to do. Their whole history has been opposing this

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Speaker 22: bill for very good reason, and I think it will

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Speaker 22: be our democracy will be worse for it. It will

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Speaker 22: lead to a chilling effect on backbench MPs knowing that

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Speaker 22: they can be tossed out if they go against the leadership.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with you on that. Now, if

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Speaker 3: they do decide tonight to kick her out, and then

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Speaker 3: they manage to get the thing done by Tuesday next week,

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Speaker 3: then the Court of Appeal thing is for her is

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Speaker 3: just about saving face and nothing else, right, because you

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Speaker 3: can't be brought back, can she.

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Speaker 22: It's a bit mysterious because no, the High Court can't

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Speaker 22: reverse the Speaker's decision. So if he gets inbursed and

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Speaker 22: my understanding is that the Greens will notify the Speaker

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Speaker 22: tonight if they get that vote, and that the Speaker

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Speaker 22: will do side between Narra and Tuesday, will notify Tana

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Speaker 22: that she's no longer an MP and to clear the

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Speaker 22: seat vacant. The High Court can't reverse that, so it

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Speaker 22: all becomes quite absurd.

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Speaker 3: Does she get any you know, how if you're a

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Speaker 3: political staffer in the b how do you get the

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Speaker 3: three months severance pay and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Does she get that or is it like that's your

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Speaker 3: last paypack at lady bye?

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know that.

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Speaker 22: And you know, this isn't something that we normally use,

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Speaker 22: so I'm not sure they have rules about such things.

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Speaker 22: I mean, you know, this has hardly been used that

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Speaker 22: she's been used by the act Party back and what

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Speaker 22: about two thousand and four, And this is the only

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Speaker 22: time it's been used since the current version of it

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Speaker 22: came into power in twenty eighteen. So it's a bit

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Speaker 22: of new territory.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting. Hey, Bryce, thanks very much, appreciate your insight.

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Speaker 3: That's Bryce Edwards, political analyst. By the way, Darlene appears

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Speaker 3: to be sort of bracing herself for it to go

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Speaker 3: against her today. She says she's heartbroken that the Greens

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Speaker 3: are forging ahead with the plan to make her leave parliament.

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Speaker 3: She says, I have done nothing wrong. Five to eleven

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Speaker 3: Heather do for see Allen right well. Thirty one year

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Speaker 3: old Liam Payne, the former member of the boy band

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Speaker 3: One Direction, has died after falling from the third floor

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Speaker 3: of an Argentinian hotel. Police they were called to the

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Speaker 3: Cussaceur hotel in Bonos Aires about five o'clock as in

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Speaker 3: five pm local time. They'd received a call about an

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Speaker 3: aggressive man who may have been under the effects of

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Speaker 3: drugs and alcohol in the inner courtyard of the hotel,

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Speaker 3: and when they arrived they heard a loud sound coming

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Speaker 3: from there and then they discovered the body. Valen Irisibar

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Speaker 3: is an editor at Bonosarre's Herald Hi Vallen Hello, how

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Speaker 3: are you at that? I'm very well, thank you. Now,

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Speaker 3: look when we say that he was acting aggressively, do

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Speaker 3: we know what was going on?

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Speaker 23: No?

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Speaker 22: Not really.

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Speaker 24: Unfortunately, that's about the extent of the details that we

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Speaker 24: have from the police reports, from what hotel staff were

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Speaker 24: reporting to the police. We haven't had confirmation as to

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Speaker 24: because we don't have the autopsy yet, and actually city

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Speaker 24: authorities are warning against jumping to any conclusions before we

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Speaker 24: get the autopsy.

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Speaker 23: Back, but yes, it's very much.

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Speaker 24: He may have been under the influence of drugs or

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Speaker 24: alcohol and he was acting aggressively, but that's about the

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Speaker 24: extent of it, I'm afraid.

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Speaker 3: So he was there because apparently he'd come to see

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Speaker 3: his former bandmate Niale Horan's show. Eddy sort of hung

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Speaker 3: around afterwards or was everybody still there?

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Speaker 24: So he was hanging around afterwards he was, I mean,

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Speaker 24: he was publishing things to his snapchat, you know, I

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Speaker 24: think an hour and a half before this happened. And

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Speaker 24: that's the you know, that's what we understand why he

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Speaker 24: was here. Hotel staff reported to police that he checked

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Speaker 24: in alone to the hotel on October tenth, and that's

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Speaker 24: as far as we as we have as well. I mean,

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Speaker 24: sorry if I can't say, you know, one way or

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Speaker 24: the other. This is very much what we've been able

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Speaker 24: to verify so.

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Speaker 3: Early early stage. I realized now I know that we've

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Speaker 3: been warned against jumping to conclusions, but people are jumping

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Speaker 3: to conclusions about the fact that there was a season

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Speaker 3: di disorder that a partner had issued him last week.

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Speaker 3: Do we know if this had anything to do with it?

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Speaker 23: We don't.

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Speaker 24: I have been I will say, obviously I'm not as

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Speaker 24: tight lift as all that I have seen. Obviously, the

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Speaker 24: conjectures in the room is about, you know, the fact

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Speaker 24: that he was under you know, the influence of something allegedly.

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Speaker 24: I have seen these court orders as not frankly, not

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Speaker 24: a directioner. It's not something that I had been following

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Speaker 24: particularly closely.

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Speaker 23: But I have seen those.

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Speaker 24: Rumors going around and conjectures going around. But when I've

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Speaker 24: asked emergency services, the police and other people on the ground,

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Speaker 24: they've very much been saying, look, we don't know if

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Speaker 24: it was a third person. We don't know if he's fell.

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Speaker 24: We we can't lo out if this was you know,

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Speaker 24: on purpose. It's very much all up in the air

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Speaker 24: as of now.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the direction, as I imagine, there are quite

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Speaker 3: a few fans already at the hotel.

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Speaker 24: Yet, yes, there's several I think we know. I've been

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Speaker 24: talking to people on the ground.

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Speaker 23: I haven't made my way over just yet, but there

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Speaker 23: was a lot of it.

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Speaker 24: First of all, it was cordoned off, the street has

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Speaker 24: been cordered off, and yes there are some fans from

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Speaker 24: you know, there were about fifty people, but there was

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Speaker 24: a lot of journalists' presence really there, you know, some

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Speaker 24: lighting candles, some fans lighting candles. But I suspect there's

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Speaker 24: probably going to be some sort of event afterwards, and

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Speaker 24: maybe not necessarily outside the hotel.

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Speaker 3: At least that's what we believe.

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Speaker 24: Is journalist, you know, it seems to be more of

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Speaker 24: a dry event going out going on outside the hotel currently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey Vallan, thanks for talking us. I'd appreciate. It's

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Speaker 3: Valin Lesiba, who's an editor at Buenos Aidre's Herald TMZ,

853
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Speaker 3: which is if you follow you know, celebrity news and stuff,

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Speaker 3: you'll know TMZ. It's kind of Hollywood obsessed news outlets.

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Speaker 3: It's copying a lot of criticism. It often pushes the boundaries.

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Speaker 3: Has definitely pushed it with this. It's published an image

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Speaker 3: of parts, like images of parts of Liam Payne's body

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Speaker 3: on the ground, apparently just minutes after after the news

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Speaker 3: of his death. So it's not like a full photo.

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Speaker 3: What it is is it's a crop photograph of I

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Speaker 3: think his right m and then another cropped photograph of

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Speaker 3: just a portion of his tummy and basically showing distinctive

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Speaker 3: tattoos as into identify it is him. They have copped

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Speaker 3: so much criticism for this they have taken the photographs

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Speaker 3: off at any reference to it and not explained the

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Speaker 3: decision at all. Quarter past Hey, the British and Irish

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Speaker 3: canned film festival favorites as well. So you're going to

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Speaker 3: get it from Ketty Kiddy all the way down to Dunedin.

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Speaker 3: The festival is going to screen in thirty cinemas across

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Speaker 3: twenty different cities in this country and Town's obviously from

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Speaker 3: October twenty three, that's next week, all the way through

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Speaker 3: to November thirteen. Five new locations as well. This makes

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Speaker 3: it the biggest British and Irish film festival to date.

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Speaker 3: Now opening the festival direct from Toronto and Tallia Ride

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Speaker 3: Film Festivals comes Conclave starring Ray Fines Who's Fantastic and

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Speaker 3: Stanley Tucci hosts Fantastic and John Lithgow host Fantastic and

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Speaker 3: Isabella ross Aliti. I mean, how much more do you

881
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Speaker 3: need to tell you? Audiences have been wowed by the

882
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Speaker 3: film It's now being widely discussed as a potential Oscar

883
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Speaker 3: and Ray Fines is also at his charismatic best in

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Speaker 3: the Return. He stars alongside the fantastic Juliette Binoche in

885
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Speaker 3: their first on screen pairing. They did the English Patient Remember,

886
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Speaker 3: first time together since in the last twenty eight years,

887
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Speaker 3: so be sure to secure opening night tickets to Conclave

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Speaker 3: before they sail out. Tickets are on sale now through

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Speaker 3: the British Film Festival dot co dot NZ or through

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Speaker 3: participating cinemas. Heather du for Seur nineteen past five. Now,

891
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Speaker 3: the Southland District Council is cracking down on dog owners

892
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Speaker 3: that who aren't following the rules. This is because the

893
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Speaker 3: number of infringement notices issued in the year to June

894
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Speaker 3: is up fifty percent on the year before. Most of

895
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Speaker 3: these notices are the unregistered dogs, but there's also an

896
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Speaker 3: increase in the number of dogs binding people. Rob Scott

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Speaker 3: is the Mayor of south and with me now.

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Speaker 20: Hey Rob, good assent, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? So what you guys say you're going to

900
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Speaker 3: crack down, but what are you actually going to do?

901
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: What does this mean?

902
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Speaker 20: It's cracking downocus on the irresponsible owners, so we're not

903
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Speaker 20: having to have everyone else pay for the minority. I

904
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Speaker 20: think too often in today's will you get the lowest

905
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Speaker 20: common denominator kind of affecting everyone and everyone else paying

906
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Speaker 20: for it. So we try to look back to the

907
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Speaker 20: majority of our good dog owners by not having to

908
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Speaker 20: increase the dog fees for them and just targeting those

909
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Speaker 20: that aren't playing by the rules.

910
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Speaker 3: But what are you going to take the dogs off

911
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Speaker 3: these people?

912
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Speaker 20: Oh, that's that's the last resort. But yeah, I mean,

913
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Speaker 20: now all of our team on the ground that they're

914
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Speaker 20: real people, they're great people, and it's focusing and of

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Speaker 20: the gaugery in seat that in that meeting that in

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Speaker 20: the article that you're referring to there, there's about five

917
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Speaker 20: interactions with staff before an invirovement has given. So we're

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Speaker 20: working with people, but you're just targeting those that are

919
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Speaker 20: actually breaking the rules rather than making those that are

920
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Speaker 20: abiding by them having to pay for it.

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Speaker 3: Rob, what are your options between So you've you've issued

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Speaker 3: five noticed sys to them, now they've got an infringement

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Speaker 3: and last resort is taking the dogs away? What can

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Speaker 3: you do between now and then?

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Speaker 20: Well, you kind of hope that those infringement notices are

926
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Speaker 20: going to actually get paid and that and I think

927
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Speaker 20: what happens is once you get to that level that

928
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Speaker 20: hopefully the lessons learned and the behavior has changed and

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Speaker 20: people carry on, and then those that don't, you've actually

930
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Speaker 20: got to look at their ability and should they actually

931
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Speaker 20: be owning a dog because they are actually letting it

932
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Speaker 20: down the side down for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now what's going on with the biting? Why are

934
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Speaker 3: these dogs biting people?

935
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: I don't know, and that's something that Adrian said in

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Speaker 20: the meeting that they're currently looking into. So yeah, I'm

938
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Speaker 20: not actually too sure on that one, and I've actually

939
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Speaker 20: seen too much of the info behind that, so I

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Speaker 20: can't sort of go into that one at the moment

941
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Speaker 20: too much. Sorry, but yeah, it does seem a bit strange.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, good on you for having a crack at

943
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Speaker 3: these guys and go hard. I don't think anybody's gonna

944
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Speaker 3: feel sorry for them. They're obviously recidivists. That's Rob Scott's

945
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Speaker 3: Southland District mayors. And we just took a wicket. I mean,

946
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Speaker 3: let's be let thank you the prominence it deserves. Took

947
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Speaker 3: a wicket. What the hell in the test against India.

948
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Speaker 3: So Tim Salvey has just bold rohit Shama for two

949
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Speaker 3: of sixteen balls. How good India nine for one. Enjoy

950
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Speaker 3: it because it might not last. Five twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need

952
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Speaker 1: Heather Dup to see allan drive with one New Zealand.

953
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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

954
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: Chris Hopkins in studio with us in about twelve minutes time,

955
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Speaker 3: five twenty four. Now let's talk about the beneficiary numbers

956
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Speaker 3: out today. Right. There are two ways of looking at

957
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: these numbers, and I'm talking particularly about the ones that

958
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Speaker 3: show that more people have been kicked off the benefit

959
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: and sanctioned on the benefit. And the two ways of

960
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Speaker 3: looking at it is either to see the government as

961
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Speaker 3: beneficiary bashing and heartless or to see the government as

962
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Speaker 3: doing these people a favor. And I am firmly in

963
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Speaker 3: the latter camp. I mean, I think that what we

964
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Speaker 3: need to understand, we sort of need to change our

965
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: view about welfare in this country is kind of like

966
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Speaker 3: a there's an entitlement mentality which has pervaded New Zealand.

967
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Speaker 3: If we need to understand something very important about welfare,

968
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: it is one of, if not the greatest single failure

969
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: in New Zealand that we have allowed welfare to get

970
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Speaker 3: out of hand in the way that we have. We

971
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Speaker 3: now have generations of kids who grow up in welfare

972
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: dependent homes, which becomes their version of normality, which they

973
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Speaker 3: then repeat and raise kids and then start the cycle

974
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Speaker 3: all over again. It is not up for debate whether

975
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Speaker 3: welfare or a job is better for a human being.

976
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Speaker 3: A job is better for a human being. It is

977
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Speaker 3: an accepted fact, right, It's better for their life prospects,

978
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: it's better for their mental health, gives them purpose. Leaving

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Speaker 3: people to languish and be raised in welfare homes is

980
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Speaker 3: basically neglecting people. If you just let them carry on

981
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Speaker 3: like that, you are neglecting them. Pushing them off welfare.

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Speaker 2: I reckon.

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Speaker 3: Pushing them off welfare is kind of a little bit

984
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Speaker 3: like parental discipline, right, Nobody loves it. The kid doesn't

985
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Speaker 3: love it, You don't love it. Nobody wants to be

986
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Speaker 3: doing that disciplining a child. But you want the best

987
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Speaker 3: for your child's life prospect You want the best for

988
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Speaker 3: them as a human being, So you know you've got

989
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: to make some tough calls to help them out. It's

990
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Speaker 3: kind of the same with welfare. I grew up in

991
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Speaker 3: a town where welfare was a part of South Auckland.

992
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: At the time, welfare was so embedded, so normalized, that

993
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Speaker 3: I remember classmates quitting school before seventh fall, and when

994
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: I said to them, what are you going to do?

995
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Speaker 3: It wasn't They weren't going off to a course, they

996
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: weren't going off to university. They were just gonna go

997
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: home and be on the doll. That should not be

998
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: a career option, and it is a career option in

999
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Speaker 3: this country. So I think that we have to all

1000
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Speaker 3: change the way that we see welfare. We are very

1001
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: lucky to have it, we really are. Especially in economic

1002
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: downturns like this. This is when we needed to catch

1003
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: people who are losing their jobs. But it cannot be

1004
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: a lifestyle. And if that means that people have to

1005
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 3: be pushed off it, then that is the right thing

1006
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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 2: Heither do for see Allen.

1008
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Speaker 3: I have got a little bit more sad news for

1009
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: your music news. The keyboardist of the band Dragon, Alan

1010
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: Mansfield has died. He passed away yesterday in Sydney with

1011
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Speaker 3: his family and his partner Sharon O'Neil by his side.

1012
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: It was weird, really weird timing because just yesterday, which

1013
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 3: is the day he died, I was driving into work

1014
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 3: and I was listening to it on radio. Hode Dragon

1015
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: came on and I thought the song is an absolute banger.

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Speaker 12: I ever was.

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Speaker 3: It's all how good is the song? Enjoy it's h.

1018
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Speaker 1: Is it wonder?

1019
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: A streets.

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Speaker 8: Is a wonder? We all.

1021
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Speaker 1: Red find your smart speaker on the iHeart app and

1022
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: in your car on.

1023
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: Your drive home.

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00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Here the Duple c Alan drive with one New Zealand

1025
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: let's get connected and news talk as sid be.

1026
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: Trove from the Heart. I'm standing by Nick Mills and

1027
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: Mark Sainsbury with us this evening. And by the way,

1028
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: after six I should actually have said this earlier. We're

1029
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: gonna have a chat to Louise Upston, who's the Social

1030
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: Development Minister, about those beneficiary numbers that are coming up.

1031
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: There's been an increase in the number of Bennies, by

1032
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Speaker 3: the way, in the last year by about eight percent.

1033
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 3: That shouldn't shock anybody. We've had an economic downturn, that's

1034
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: what the benefit is therefore, So anyway, right now it's

1035
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Speaker 3: twenty four away from six now, Jacinta ar Durn, as

1036
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Speaker 3: we've discussed, has received her Dame hood from none other

1037
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Speaker 3: than Prince William at a ceremony at Windsor Castle overnight,

1038
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Speaker 3: and that's prompted Chris Hopkins, the Labor Party leader, to

1039
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: pipe up. And so we should do more to utilize

1040
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: the star power of Jainda are doing to advocate for

1041
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: us globally, and he is with us right now, had

1042
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Speaker 3: you been I made those.

1043
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 10: Comments a couple of weeks ago. It's just they're being

1044
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 10: reported now. But really, but you know, I think it's

1045
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 10: a good thing that they are being reported because I

1046
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 10: do think that Jasinda Arden has some star power pulling,

1047
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Speaker 10: you know, pulling power for us on the international stage,

1048
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 10: and we should we should use it.

1049
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: How would we use her?

1050
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

1051
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Speaker 10: I mean, like I genuinely don't know. I mean, she

1052
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 10: can certainly promote New Zealand for tourism, promote New Zealand

1053
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 10: for trade, promote New Zealand as a good as a

1054
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Speaker 10: good country.

1055
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: She could do investors, cocktail parties, contry.

1056
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Speaker 10: All of those sorts of things, you know. I mean,

1057
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 10: I'm not necessarily talking about any formal role. I'm just

1058
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 10: saying that let's just use her as a as an

1059
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Speaker 10: asset to the country. She's got a high international profile.

1060
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 10: Why wouldn't we And the funny thing is, you know,

1061
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Speaker 10: I know that there's a there's a small group in

1062
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 10: the country who are very vitriolic towards to Cinda. But

1063
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Speaker 10: actually I know a lot of National Party people didn't

1064
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Speaker 10: vote Labor, wouldn't vote Labor, but they still respect to

1065
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Speaker 10: Cinda and they still, you know, they still would like

1066
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Speaker 10: to see her more positively reflected, you know, by the country.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure it's a small group.

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Speaker 10: I think it is a pretty small group. They're very,

1069
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Speaker 10: very loud, though, I mean, it's a it's a bit

1070
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Speaker 10: like the anti vex group. You know that the.

1071
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Speaker 9: Proportion of noise.

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Speaker 3: Vibes right.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, But I mean overall, the vast majority of

1074
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Speaker 10: New Zealand has went and got vaccinated. I don't think

1075
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Speaker 10: the anti vex group does.

1076
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Speaker 3: We've got vaccinated. I still get triggered by her. Those

1077
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: two things don't correlate. The reason I'm asking you whether

1078
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: it is a minority if you're so sure about it,

1079
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Speaker 3: because you have said you've blamed a minority of people

1080
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Speaker 3: for making things quite nasty. But chippy. We've got a

1081
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: beach house at the same place that her parents have

1082
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: got a beach house in the Coromandel, and man, you

1083
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: know that town is dark on her. You know, that's

1084
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Speaker 3: a town her parents basically live in. So I'm not

1085
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Speaker 3: sure how small it is.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there are certainly stronger pockets of it around the country.

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Speaker 10: There's no question the Corimndel is definitely one of those.

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Speaker 10: But I don't think that's reflective of the mood of

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Speaker 10: the whole country. Like I said, I've met plenty of

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Speaker 10: National Party people who didn't vote Labor, aren't likely to

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Speaker 10: vote Labor, but they certainly don't subscribe to the nastiness

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Speaker 10: you know that we've seen directed it to see.

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Speaker 3: I just assume that the reason that she is now

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Speaker 3: overseas and basically doesn't come back home is because it's

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Speaker 3: like widespread nastiness. No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 10: I mean, certainly there's a vocal group who would target

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Speaker 10: her back home in New Zealand, But actually I think

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Speaker 10: it's because she's she's got some pretty good offers around

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Speaker 10: the world and she's busy. You know, she's in high demand.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me something. This is what I don't

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Speaker 3: understand about Jacinda. Is the version of Cinda that we're

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Speaker 3: getting at the moment is not the version of Cinda

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Speaker 3: that we thought we were voting for. Like we were

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Speaker 3: voting for the child poverty lady who's basically just naffed

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Speaker 3: off and lining her own pockets and fair enough, like

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Speaker 3: I would too if I was her, But she's making

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Speaker 3: herself for it. She's not looking after the kids here.

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Speaker 3: She's a Republican who then gets takes the honor got

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Speaker 3: windsor Castle, Like, how crazy is that? So I feel like,

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Speaker 3: of all the prime ministers, the one who cared the

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Speaker 3: most about the poor kids is the one who's making

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Speaker 3: the most money out there at the moment. It feels weird.

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Speaker 10: I mean as a Republican, of course, I have mixed

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Speaker 10: views about that myself, you know, Like I mean, I'm

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Speaker 10: a Republican and I met with Prince William last year,

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Speaker 10: and we met with King Charles last year and so on,

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Speaker 10: and I quite liked them, But I'm still a Republican.

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Speaker 10: And actually, people accepting an honor on behalf of New Zealand,

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Speaker 10: it doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly New Zealand by but

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Speaker 10: come on, an offered by New Zealand. Should have said,

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Speaker 10: you know, because it is a New Zealand government doctor,

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Speaker 10: you don't.

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Speaker 3: Have to take it. You certainly don't have to take

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Speaker 3: it from the future king at windsor Well.

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Speaker 10: You know, look, ultimately, as I said, look, I'm still

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Speaker 10: a Republican and I have some more mixed views.

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Speaker 3: Have you soon been? Like, I just didn't know.

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Speaker 10: That's not a conversation that we've ever had.

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Speaker 3: But she, she was, she did that. That's her called that,

1130
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: that's her business. Hey, are the Greens going to kick

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Speaker 3: Darlene out tonight?

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Speaker 10: They've certainly entitled you and if they do, I think

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00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 10: it'll be a good thing. It'd be a good thing

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Speaker 10: for the parliament, good thing for democracy.

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Speaker 3: Are you just saying that because it means that the

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Speaker 3: Greens are the first one to pull the scab off

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Speaker 3: the walker jumping legislation, which even you didn't use.

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Speaker 10: No we didn't, but actually well we didn't use it

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Speaker 10: because it was getting a bit close to the election

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Speaker 10: and all of that kind of stuff, and the Greens

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Speaker 10: don't well I don't think that's true, but actually I don't.

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Speaker 10: I've always supported that legislation because I think that when

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Speaker 10: you vote for people and they come in on the

1144
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Speaker 10: party list. They have no mandate to be there on

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Speaker 10: anything other than the you know, as members of the party.

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Speaker 3: That they got votes, are there is agreed, not as

1147
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: Darling exactly right, okay? But so do you think they've

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Speaker 3: got the seventy five? I hope so. I mean, obviously

1149
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: you guys are not keen on her, are you.

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Speaker 10: I I just think it's such a distortion of parliament.

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00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 10: You know, like you get elected as a Green MP

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Speaker 10: and then with it literally within weeks you're not in

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 10: the party anymore, and you're trying to say it stay

1154
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Speaker 10: as an independent. I don't think that's what people voted

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Speaker 10: for when they voted for MMP.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. And do you think the government should

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Speaker 3: get involved in Wellington City Council?

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Speaker 10: Not yet? I mean I think they should certainly be

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00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 10: meeting with them, they should have conversations with them. But

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Speaker 10: I don't think they've yet met their threshold, you know,

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Speaker 10: to get rid of the council.

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Speaker 3: The threshold for a CROWNEDGI. It's not getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the councils, just sending a grown up in. Isn't the threshold?

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Speaker 3: Simply that the minister has to kind of lose confidence.

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Speaker 10: No, they basically have to be They have to have

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Speaker 10: grounds to believe that the Council is not fulfilling its

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Speaker 10: statutory obligations. So if the Council can't produce a long

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Speaker 10: term plan, they're not producing they're not fulilling their statutory obligations.

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Speaker 10: Time to time for the government to do something. But

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Speaker 10: at this point they haven't got to that point yet. Yeahs.

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Speaker 10: The ultimate sanction is that next year there's a local

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Speaker 10: government election rolling around and all Wellingtonians get to have

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Speaker 10: you on.

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Speaker 3: That express What you heard? Have you heard Tori is

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: going to get a seat with the Greens?

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Speaker 10: I have not heard that. No, Look Ian, I suspect

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Speaker 10: there'll be a very vigorous contest in Wellington at the

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Speaker 10: next election.

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Speaker 12: Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, ChIL Be, thank you for coming

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Speaker 3: and it's really good to see you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah's lovely to be here.

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Speaker 17: Thanks man.

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Speaker 3: That's Chris Hopkins, our Labor Party leader right now. It's

1185
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: coming up eighteen away from Sex.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's international realty, local and

1187
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Speaker 1: global exposure.

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Speaker 2: Like no other.

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Speaker 3: Holy by the way, in the Cricket twelve for three.

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Speaker 3: So maybe we'll all just retract the comments we made

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Speaker 3: about the black Caps doing badly. It looks like it's

1192
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Speaker 3: actually going like unseasonably well. Nick Mills, Wellington Mornings host

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Speaker 3: and Mark Sansbury broadcaster is with us on the huddle.

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Speaker 8: Hullo you too, right, both of you?

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about just so you triggered?

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Speaker 25: Look that the thing with just and I mean there's

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Speaker 25: two things and you it's great because you you nailed

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Speaker 25: both of them. One was I was really surprised she

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Speaker 25: took it to begin with the day because you know,

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Speaker 25: Helen Clark would not, Jim Bolger would not, you know,

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Speaker 25: And I found that really really odd.

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Speaker 8: And as you say, well, you could argue.

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Speaker 25: You're going to use it to you know, gives you

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Speaker 25: a bit of status to do greater good. And then

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Speaker 25: look and the other thing is she is regarded totally

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Speaker 25: differently overseas than what she is here. There's a lot

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Speaker 25: of people here who just simply hate it. And I

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Speaker 25: remember when they're remember running in the Grant Roberts at

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Speaker 25: once at some it was a book launch or something,

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Speaker 25: and he said to me, the DPS have told her

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Speaker 25: not to leave the building for two days. I remember

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Speaker 25: thinking at the time, is this what we've come to?

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Speaker 25: So there's all that sort of true Away from New Zealand,

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Speaker 25: I mean, outside of New Zealand, she's very highly regarded.

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Speaker 8: The Laby used John Key as the same role, you know.

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Speaker 25: I mean you could say it's all very well from

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Speaker 25: say that today today extend the hand to a former

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Speaker 25: prime minister who could be useful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair point that you make it. We

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Speaker 3: didn't and when John Key, I mean after John Key,

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Speaker 3: we're actually pretty fine fetal as a country. We're much

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Speaker 3: more stuften and really need the pr at the moment.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Nick, Are you triggered by her

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Speaker 3: or are you feeling just like chill vibes at the moment.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I don't think anybody should get a dame

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Speaker 17: hood or a knighthood when you're under about.

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Speaker 23: Fifty or fifty five. I've got a real problem. I

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Speaker 23: always thought.

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Speaker 17: There was a lifetime of commitment to something, a lifetime

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Speaker 17: of doing something to create that. So I've got a

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Speaker 17: real problem with these young people picking them up.

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Speaker 23: That's the first thing.

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Speaker 17: Secondly, life change for Jasinda Ardurm when she opened a

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Speaker 17: school in christ church well somewhere down south.

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Speaker 23: You remember it when she came in the van and

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Speaker 23: everyone was banging on the van. You know, she was

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Speaker 23: just opening a school. I mean, we've never seen anything

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Speaker 23: like that before in New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: So yes, she's very popular, or was very popular internationally.

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Speaker 17: They thought of her as this, you know, smart young

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Speaker 17: woman that was running this country and taking us through

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Speaker 17: COVID and what a great effort. But I think it

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Speaker 17: was was I don't think it's current, and I think

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Speaker 17: that Chippy's living in the past.

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Speaker 23: But if she thinks that she can represent us.

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Speaker 8: Sure, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: She's still a big deal overseas. I mean she was

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Speaker 3: at the on the sidelines of the Democratic Convention. The

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Speaker 3: Prince and Princess of Wales have made a video and

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Speaker 3: put it on their socials so that they can be

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Speaker 3: associated with her, and she's all over the newspapers. Man,

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Speaker 3: I reckon, she's got star purs do.

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Speaker 23: She was sidelined.

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Speaker 17: She was sidelined on that convention. That's what it really

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Speaker 17: got to me is they made a big deal about it.

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Speaker 17: She was out the back door talking to.

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Speaker 23: Someone that no one ever knew. It wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 8: Run a lot of stuff on the side. But now

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Speaker 8: put it this way.

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Speaker 25: If they decide to have a New Zealand, we want

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Speaker 25: business to come to New Zealand, do it New Zealand

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Speaker 25: House in London?

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Speaker 8: Would more people turn up?

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Speaker 25: I was hosted by Jacinda Adurn or would more people

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Speaker 25: turn up? I was hosted by Chris Luxen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Cindy every day?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, but you're missing You're missing a very What about

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Speaker 17: Peter Jackson? Now put him in the equation and tell

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Speaker 17: me who would turn up.

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Speaker 8: Peter doesn't need to turn up there.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 17: If you want someone to actually represent your land and say, hey,

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Speaker 17: what a great city you want?

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Speaker 3: What about Lord Lord versus Jacinda?

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Speaker 2: Well, different crowd and.

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Speaker 25: I think Beanie should get it. Oh give Lord and

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Speaker 25: not a damehood that upset?

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Speaker 23: Say at night, guys, knighthood come.

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Speaker 3: Home for knighthoods for everyone and we'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: Come back with these two v Shortly it's called to the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Elevate the marketing

1282
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Speaker 1: of your home.

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Speaker 3: Back with the hut on Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury.

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Speaker 3: Hey next, so oh, hold on saints.

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Speaker 8: I just pointed, would you take a dame hood?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've got no principles.

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Speaker 8: Would you?

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Speaker 3: Would you?

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Speaker 25: Well, I call myself a Republican. I like think, no,

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Speaker 25: I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd like to be tested?

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Speaker 8: You think, oh, would this be upgrades for the rest

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Speaker 8: of your life? Would you? Would you? Would you?

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Speaker 17: Of course it?

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Speaker 3: Would you get business class? You get business crass those

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Speaker 3: new seats right at the front.

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Speaker 8: Would you?

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Speaker 23: Then?

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Speaker 3: Saying so, if you got offered a knighthood, would you

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Speaker 3: also insist that William give it to you?

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Speaker 8: Look, I think I would say no. I would say

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Speaker 8: that I wouldn't get off the one in any case.

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Speaker 23: But no, can can I make a confession here?

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Speaker 3: You were off the one?

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Speaker 22: No?

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Speaker 23: No, no, I've got one of the ones underneath it.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 23: I've got an o Z to him. So that's I mean,

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Speaker 23: I've already sort of gone in that realm traditional just

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 23: a brag. Well, no, I'm just actually playing with a

1309
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 23: straight bat.

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Speaker 8: Are you republic Would you take a night of it?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 17: Would I take a night now? Because I don't I'm

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Speaker 17: not deserved of one. If I was deserved of one,

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Speaker 17: I would definitely take it. I mean, I'm not deservant

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Speaker 17: of one and I wouldn't take it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, next, so what are you reckons going to

1317
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: happen here with with the council? Are you? Are you

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01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: getting the vibes that the government's going to intervene and

1319
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: that Tory has not at all convinced to mean today?

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Speaker 17: Can I tell you firstly that your interview with Tim

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 17: Brown is one of the best interviews of my whole life.

1322
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 17: I have played it back more than I've played a

1323
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 17: Beatles song back.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that from you because your interview with Tory

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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: was outstanding and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's not the mutual anthwer society here, but admiration

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 17: society here. But no, and I'm going to I'm going

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 17: to say this really really clearly, nothing is at very

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 17: very worse than it won't happen till No, it's not

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 17: going to even happen that they would put an observer

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 17: like it's nearly Christmas right in Wellington. It's nearly Christmas,

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 17: it's nearly the end of the year. Nothing's going to

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 17: happen before the end of the year. Then we're back

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 17: at February March before everyone puts their feet under the table.

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Speaker 23: Then it's April, May, June, July, August, before an election.

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01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 23: They won't do a damn thing.

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Speaker 17: They will just put it back on Willingtonians to vote

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Speaker 17: the right way at the next election, now, you know.

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 23: And some of me says that's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 17: It is a disaster.

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 23: I watched that special meeting.

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Speaker 17: I've never wasted three hours in my life ever before,

1343
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 17: the same way that the actual council is. The whole

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01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 17: council is an absolute disaster.

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01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 23: It really is. But I mean, if Simeon hasn't done anything, now,

1346
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 23: when is he going to do something?

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Speaker 3: I reckon he does something by the end of the

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: nth says I'll tell you what I think was fascinating

1349
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: is so Tory calls a meeting with Simeon to try

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Speaker 3: to stop him intervening. Then she has the meeting with

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Speaker 3: Simeon and they don't even mention government intervention. Isn't that weird?

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Speaker 1: It's very weird.

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Speaker 25: Well, it's you know, like, don't mention the war, the

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 25: most telling thing that has been And Tolly, you know

1355
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 25: who was born in this commissioner across in total and

1356
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 25: she made. I mean that it's a it's a very

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 25: big step to take it. It is a very very

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01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 25: big step, and it's politically risky as well. You've got

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 25: a lot of voters are gonna go, what are you

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 25: doing interfering? They're our sort of stuff.

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Speaker 8: Up to leave them to us. So I agree with Nick.

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Speaker 8: I think they'll think no, I think they'll hold off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, have you brought anything at t mouse sayings up?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I was crap. I mean it's it's like a drug.

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Speaker 8: You can't you go, God, that's cheap or that.

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: Could be good?

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Speaker 2: Did you buy?

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Speaker 8: I brought this whole?

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Speaker 25: I bought a floating boar, A floating floating boar, like

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Speaker 25: a little drone thing which is about fourteen bucks and

1372
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 25: it floats around. But look it's made out of you know,

1373
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 25: match sticks or something. As soon as it hits something

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 25: that shatters, super super cheap.

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Speaker 3: How much fun did you have with that?

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 8: I quite a bit of fun, did you?

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01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: Is it the kind of thing that you enjoy when

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: you've drunk too much?

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01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But like that? Yeah?

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 17: Okay, all right and they hear that, Yeah, can I

1382
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 17: just say something that we've all forgotten? But you know,

1383
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 17: who's everyone in one into everyone? Who's everyone's talking about?

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 17: Who's going to run for me next year in Wellington?

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 23: Rachel a guy that you're looking at right now saying

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01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 23: so for mayor?

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 8: I don't listen. I had a call from z B yesterday.

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 8: I had another one from Stuff today.

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Speaker 9: Deny it.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 8: They head me down as I. You said, Oh, you're

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 8: you're on a ticket with with Diane Calvert.

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Speaker 3: I said, I haven't met her.

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, where does this?

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: You're running for me?

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 8: I'm not running for me yet, but I'm luck Nick

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Speaker 8: and I have talked about very very concerned about where

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Speaker 8: it's going.

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Speaker 3: You make a really good mayor.

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Speaker 8: You'd have to be convinced. I mean only because the

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01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 8: only thing is you look at that.

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 25: It's sort of like I remember three years ago someone

1403
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 25: tried said me, why don't you stand for me here?

1404
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 25: And you go dysfunctional counsel in fighting billion dollar water

1405
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 25: problems and you know, lack of financial expertise.

1406
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I reckon, we'll it needs look, it needs to.

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01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 8: Cheer at them.

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01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, will you be the mayor? And Nick and I

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: will help you you.

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Speaker 8: Job share. I'll just do your Winston and Seymour.

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01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: Now I love it all right, guys, listen, thank you

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01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: very much, really appreciate chatting to you. And how exciting

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: is that gossip about Saintso that's Mark Saints Brian Nick

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01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: Mills a hurdle seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather Dupleice allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand one giant Leap for Business News talks.

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Speaker 3: Hey, India's mounting a comeback. It's thirteen for three.

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Speaker 8: How good.

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Speaker 3: I'm just you know what, I'm just going to enjoy

1421
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: this because it is lasting and it is worth us

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: enjoying it, isn't it? Hither I feel rather sad and

1423
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: ashamed of how this conversation about our previous prime minister

1424
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: is going. The woman tried her hardest with some of

1425
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: the biggest hurdles any government has had to face in

1426
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: the Vitreo. She still faces from her own country as

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: pathetic and simplistic. Well, I mean she has a flake,

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01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: and obviously she could be. If you're not up to

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: the job, you can try as hard as you like,

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: you're still not up to the job. I think that's

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01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: the problem there, and also the other problem is, let's

1432
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: be honest about it, is that I think Kiwi's really

1433
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: get very frustrated that we could see that she was

1434
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: just so shite at the job and then everybody loves

1435
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: her around the world. It's a bit like when you

1436
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: talk to a brit like I quite like Bojo because

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: he's kind of funny and he's got mad hair, and

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: when I talk to Brits about it, they are really

1439
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: angry with me for finding any part of that amusing

1440
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: because he just stuffed them.

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Speaker 23: Right.

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: It's kind of that kind of vibe. Anyway, listen Enios

1443
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: and Britannia, right, So Aeneos Britannia, sorry, and Team New Zealand.

1444
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 3: Ineos beat Team New Zealand twice overnight for the first

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Speaker 3: time in this regatta. So now it went. It was

1446
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 3: four zip to Team New Zealand. Now it's four to two.

1447
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 3: People are questioning whether this could be the San Fran moment,

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: because if you remember San Fran, we were up eight

1449
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: to one and we just needed one race to win,

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: and then suddenly the Challenger Oracle took eight in a

1451
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: row and beat us, right, And the reason people are

1452
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: asking if this is the san Fran moment is because

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Speaker 3: there are some really weird similarities here. So these are

1454
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 3: the three similarities. What happened in San Fran was that

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Speaker 3: Team New Zealand was so confident because they only had

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: two races to win, that they agreed to a lay day.

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: It was after the lay day that Oracle Team USA

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: mounted the comeback and never stopped winning. This time the

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Speaker 3: two wins in a row overnight happened after another lay day.

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Speaker 3: There's your similarity. Second similarity in San Fran. On the

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Speaker 3: day of the lay day, the only boat out practicing

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01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: was not Team New Zealand, was the other team. Same

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01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: thing just happened yesterday. The only boat out practicing not

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Speaker 3: Team New Zealand, and the final one the skipper of Oracle,

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: Ben Ainsley, the skipper of Anios, Ben Ainsley. History doesn't repeat,

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Speaker 3: so don't worry about us. We absolutely fine.

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Speaker 1: Louise upstill next, if we're business inside the business hour,

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Speaker 1: we're the header duple c Allen and my hr on

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Speaker 1: New Stalks b.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, Liam Dan

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Speaker 3: is going to talk us through TIMU and how it's

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Speaker 3: destroying New Zealand retailers. The industry. It's pretty worried about

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: a shortage of pilots. They can see coming. They're going

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: to talk to us after half past an end of

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Speaker 3: Brady out of the UK at seven past six now.

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Speaker 3: A number of people on the benefit has gone up again.

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Speaker 3: There were almost four hundred thousand people on a main

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Speaker 3: benefit at the end of last month. That's an eight

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Speaker 3: percent increase over the year before. Louise Upson is the

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Speaker 3: Minister for Social Development and Employment. High Louise, Good afternoon, Heather, Louise.

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Speaker 3: I'm not fussed about the numbers going up because to me,

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Speaker 3: that is what happens in an economic downturn.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but it is challenging, but it is absolutely

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Speaker 5: dealing with the reality of what the last government left us.

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 5: But we're just getting on with the job.

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Speaker 3: How worried are you though, because whenever we have people

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Speaker 3: going on to the benefit, it does always create the

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Speaker 3: risk that they get there and they can't get off.

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Speaker 3: How worried are you about that?

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 5: Well, I am really encouraged by the figures we've seen

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 5: in the last quarter where over sixteen thousand people have

1492
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Speaker 5: come off the job seeker benefit in two jobs. It's

1493
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Speaker 5: really encouraging. So while I accept it is challenging out there,

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Speaker 5: it's not impossible.

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Speaker 3: Do we know what jobs these people are going into.

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Speaker 5: I don't have the detail of what those jobs are,

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 5: but what I'm very clear about is a job is

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 5: better than no job, and a job leads to a

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Speaker 5: better job. And so while I accept it's challenging, we

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Speaker 5: want to see more people in employment. And the figures

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01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 5: that have come out around the work exits nearly two

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 5: thy four hundred more than in the same time a

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Speaker 5: year ago, despite these challenging economic conditions, is encouraging and

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Speaker 5: it's great to see these results.

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Speaker 3: I see that there are about forty four thousand main

1506
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Speaker 3: benefit cancelations, which is up fifteen percent on the year before.

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Speaker 3: What is that like? Is this when you say a

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01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: main benefit cancelation, are you talking about a situation where

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01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: they want to continue to be on the benefit they

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: haven't got a job to go to. When you guys

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Speaker 3: go nah, you're off, No, there'll.

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Speaker 5: Be a wholefferent reason for cancelation. So what that might be.

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Speaker 5: Just as when someone comes to the age of eighteen,

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Speaker 5: they might go on to a benefit, at the age

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 5: of sixty five, they might go off because they're going

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 5: on to superannuation. So there's a whole bunch of reasons

1517
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: that people come on benefit and go off. Our focus

1518
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 5: is absolutely on job seekers because that is the group

1519
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 5: that I worry about, people who are on the job

1520
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 5: seeker benefit. We want to see them get into employment

1521
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 5: and to see them have opportunities for the future.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you have no idea what proportion of the

1523
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: main benefit cancelations is actually chucking people off the doll altogether.

1524
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 5: No, But as I said, those sixteen thousand that I

1525
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 5: just referred to job seekers, which are a subcategory of

1526
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 5: that forty four thousand that have gone into employment.

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: But that's countered differently, isn't it, because that's counted as

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: the exits into work category. But it's a subset. Oh,

1529
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: that's a subset of those set of the original number

1530
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: of its. Yeah, I'm with you. And the sanctions going up.

1531
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: Are we seeing any indication that sanctioning these guys is

1532
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: actually giving them the hurry up and getting them off

1533
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: the door.

1534
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: Yes.

1535
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Speaker 5: So the fact that we've only got one percent at

1536
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 5: Orange and one percent at Red is really really encouraging.

1537
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 5: So it means that people are responding when there is

1538
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 5: when they go to Orange, they'll take the actions they

1539
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 5: need to get back straight into Green. And that's what

1540
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 5: the system's about. It's about being really simple and clear

1541
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 5: to understand. If you're on a job seeker benefit, what

1542
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 5: are your obligations, what are your obligations to be in

1543
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 5: contact with MSD, to be applying for jobs and to

1544
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 5: accept a job that's offered. And as I said, ninety

1545
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 5: eight percent are complying with their work obligations, which is.

1546
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: Great, fantastic. Hey, Louise, thank you so much for talking

1547
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: us through that. That's Louise Upston, the Minister for Social

1548
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Development and Employment. Eleven past sas ever dup c Ellen,

1549
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: Heather Ben Ainsley was the tactician, not the skipper. Quite right,

1550
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: you are quite right. A number of textappointed this out.

1551
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: He was the tactician and not the skipper on Oracle.

1552
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: What's important about that was that he only joined, he

1553
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: only came on board as the tactician just as they

1554
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: were sort of setting off that what about halfway through

1555
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,480
Speaker 3: that winning run. So he's kind of also a similarity

1556
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 3: that is strong here, but obviously much less strong because

1557
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: he's the skipper this time, but only the tactician last time.

1558
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 3: Internet Auckland International Airport has just held its annual meeting

1559
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: and a couple of interesting things have come out of

1560
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: this now. The first is that the airport wants to

1561
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 3: make up with their New Zealand. If you've been following

1562
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 3: what's going on here, it's got pretty nasty between the

1563
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 3: two of them. Been fighting tooth and nail over the

1564
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: money that the airport is spending on upgrading the international terminal,

1565
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: Like that's got to be sucking up a lot of

1566
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: both sides time just having this massive public debate about

1567
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 3: whether the international airport should be upgrading the terminal or

1568
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: how much are spending on it and blah blah blah

1569
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: blah got a bit nasty. They point out at their

1570
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: annual meeting today that it's pretty normal for airport and

1571
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 3: airlines to have these kinds of fights internationally when there

1572
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: is a big upgrade, so it's not as if the

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: relationship breakdown is completely unexpected, but they'd say they do

1574
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: need to get it right. The director there, Dean Hamilton,

1575
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 3: acknowledged it was critical that the airport repair its relationship

1576
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 3: with their New Zealand after a period of disagreement. Also,

1577
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: they are quite worried about the lack of tourists, in

1578
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: particular from Australia. Australia's tourists are only back up to

1579
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: eighty three percent of pre COVID visitors. The trouble is

1580
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: now that the Aussies are traveling again, they're going straight

1581
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: to Bali, so they're not coming here. So somehow and

1582
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 3: the airport thinks it basically needs to convince the airlines

1583
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: to put on more flights trans Tasmin flights. So you know,

1584
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: in order to do that you need a good relationship,

1585
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: don't you. But yet worried about the tourists and won't

1586
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: be helped by all the stuff that we're doing on

1587
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: tourism at the moment. I don't know how much of

1588
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 3: the how much of the fee increases. The Aussies cop

1589
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 3: because they kind of get a bit of a free

1590
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 3: ride come in here, you know, it's a bit of

1591
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: a free passage thing. But generally the vibe is completely

1592
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 3: off with how much we're charging tourists.

1593
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: Teen past six, crunching the numbers and getting the results,

1594
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: it's Heather due for c Allen with the Business Hour.

1595
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: Thanks to my HR, the HR platform for SME on

1596
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 1: news talksb I think.

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 3: Trump is going to win the selection, and I'm going

1598
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: to tell you I've just looked at some polling BBC's

1599
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: done like a pole of poles type thing. I'm going

1600
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 3: to run you through this in just to take and

1601
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: explain to you why I think Trump is going to

1602
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 3: win it. Sixteen past six now it's started. The program.

1603
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that like one in four

1604
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 3: of us have bought something from Timu, the Chinese retailer,

1605
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: in the past three months. It's been hugely popular, a

1606
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: popular thanks to the very cheap prices in free shipping.

1607
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 3: Liam dan Is, The Herald's Business editor at large with

1608
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: us on this alien.

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 14: Get Heather, you bought from Timu?

1610
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 23: No, No, never have. Actually guess my kids might have.

1611
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1612
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 26: And there's another one in the story I was reading

1613
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 26: at fourteen percent of Kiwis have brought something from Shane Shine.

1614
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: Sheen. We're not sure how to pronounce it.

1615
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 26: This is like me looking at the band's lists on

1616
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 26: the rock music festivals now and it's not.

1617
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: You can't remember this the case. So, Kenzie the Zuma,

1618
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: are you a zoomer? Kenzie Kensi the Zoomer is still

1619
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: at work at the moment, which is an unusual thing.

1620
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 26: And she says it's sheen, sheen, Okay, very good, and

1621
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 26: I'm sure it's probably it's probably really great high quality stuff.

1622
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 22: Is it.

1623
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: It's rubbish, It's total rubbish, she said, it's just nonsense.

1624
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: But it's cheap, right, So if you're just going to

1625
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: use it the one time, then happy day. It's like

1626
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: for a party or whatever. Okay, what is it doing

1627
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 3: to retailers?

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 26: Well, I think it's a concern because obviously retailer has

1629
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 26: been sort of down and out, having a terrible time

1630
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 26: because of the inflation, recession, all these domestic issues that

1631
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 26: we've got, and then it feels like we're going to

1632
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 26: sort of wake up from that, and this structural issue,

1633
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 26: this structural change in retailing is going to, you know,

1634
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 26: just just make it that much harder for some of

1635
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 26: these retailers to come back. I recall it was only

1636
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 26: Dune actually, but in the last GDP figures we saw

1637
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 26: signs of this because the was buried in there.

1638
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 23: There was.

1639
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 26: A statistic for consumer imports of low value goods that

1640
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 26: showed that they had risen fifty percent in the last

1641
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 26: year and up twenty percent in the March quarter alone.

1642
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 26: So if that's you know, if that's the kind of

1643
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 26: trajectory we're on and we've already got a quarter of

1644
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 26: Kiwi's using Tamu, you've got to wonder where it ends.

1645
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 26: I hope it ends with them people realizing they probably

1646
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 26: need less stuff and maybe buy some more high quality

1647
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 26: stuff and have it last. But I don't know that

1648
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 26: that trend is suddenly about to descend on us.

1649
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: Is this I mean, so this is obviously part of

1650
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: the warehouse's problem. Is it possible for us to kind

1651
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 3: of extrapolate how much of this is that is causing

1652
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: the warehouses problems and how much of the warehouse's problems

1653
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: is just the warehouse?

1654
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 26: Yeah, that's right. I think I think it's an issue

1655
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 26: for where retailer is like a warehouse, because you know,

1656
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 26: if you're a small retailer on the on a main

1657
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 26: street New Zealand, I guess you can go up up

1658
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 26: market and you know, sell the good stuff that people

1659
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 26: buy for special occasions and things, and then you're not

1660
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 26: not competing with Timu. But if you're you know, model

1661
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 26: is based on importing sheep manufactured Chinese goods, then they're

1662
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 26: cutting out the middleman here.

1663
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: And that's the problem. And look, I don't know.

1664
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 26: It's multi factoral the warehouses issues, so I would be

1665
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 26: hesitant to say it's one thing. But I think this

1666
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 26: is a sort of a big downward pressure on sales

1667
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 26: even beyond the sort of short term economic cycle. So

1668
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 26: it will be interesting to see if it can overcome

1669
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 26: that in the next year.

1670
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: Hey, listen on the inflation number yesterday, and what the

1671
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 3: ocr does Are you picking fifty or seventy five?

1672
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1673
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 26: I reckon maybe seventy five.

1674
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, this is the thing.

1675
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 3: If they go seventy five, right, that is an admission

1676
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: that they stuff this up.

1677
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 26: Yeah, I guess it's how much, you know, But surely

1678
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 26: they've got to do the right thing for the economy.

1679
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 26: And I don't know that seventy five is yet, but

1680
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 26: there are signs that, you know, if the economy is

1681
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 26: really as bad as people are sort of saying and feeling,

1682
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 26: and you know, you could make the case it was

1683
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 26: a special event COVID the pandemic inflation happened. Rates had

1684
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 26: to go up, and they had to go up in

1685
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 26: a sort of in a crisis mode. If the crisis

1686
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 26: is over, they should come down fast. And you know,

1687
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 26: whether who was right or wrong or whatever, that sort

1688
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 26: of secondary to getting the settings right quickly. I know

1689
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 26: it's still an outside chance, but the markets have it

1690
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 26: about forty percent odds on a seventy five point basis cut,

1691
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 26: so you know it'll only take a little bit of

1692
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 26: bit more bad news that unemployment data coming in a

1693
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 26: bit lower, a bit higher, I guess it would be.

1694
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 26: And you could easily see.

1695
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,879
Speaker 3: That brilliant het, Liam love chatting to you. Really appreciate

1696
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: its Liam Dan. The Herald's Business center are large. Hither,

1697
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: there is no way that Trump will win the selection,

1698
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: no matter what the polls reflect at present, most Americans

1699
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: want change. Carmel will make a difference hither. If Trump wins,

1700
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 3: I will never listen to you ever again. I don't

1701
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: need to be blamed for what happens over there. That's

1702
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: deeply unfair. Let me explain to you why Trump wins came.

1703
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: So the BBC is running this poll. I think it's

1704
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: actually it's five three eight ABC News poll. Right, don't

1705
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 3: worry about what's happening in the national polling. The only

1706
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 3: thing that you should care about is what's happening in

1707
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: the swing states. The swing states being Nirvana, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan,

1708
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 3: North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona. Harris is not leading by enough,

1709
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: She's gonna lose. This is why Nevada she's got her.

1710
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: The margin of her lead is less than one percent.

1711
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania the margin of her lead less than one percent,

1712
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 3: Wisconsin lesson one percent, Michigan lesson one percent, North Carolina.

1713
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: Trump's got by less than one percent, Georgia he's got

1714
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: by one percent, and Arizona's got by two percent. Now

1715
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: he will he will probably overperform in all of this. Right,

1716
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 3: So whatever you're seeing in the polling, he does better

1717
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 3: on the night, because that's what happened in twenty sixteen.

1718
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: That's what happened in twenty twenty. Now, if you were

1719
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,520
Speaker 3: listening on the twenty third or twenty fourth thereabouts of September,

1720
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: I told you that the Democrats were worried because they

1721
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: did not think that Carmela had a big enough lead

1722
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 3: in any of these swing states. And they will worried

1723
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: that her lead was small enough for him to flip it.

1724
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: Her lead was bigger than so in Pennsylvania on the

1725
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 3: twenty third twenty fourth of September, she had a lead

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Speaker 3: of four to six percent, and the Democrats thought he

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01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: could potentially outperform that and win Pennsylvania. Even though she

1728
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: was leading in the polling by four to six percent,

1729
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: her lead in the polling is now less than one percent.

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Speaker 3: Back then, with Michigan she had a lead of one

1731
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: to two percent, and in Wisconsin she had a lead

1732
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 3: of one to two percent. She now has a lead

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Speaker 3: of less than one percent in both of those states.

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Speaker 3: Right so, in all of the states where they were

1735
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: already worried about her polling lead not being enough, she

1736
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: has come back to a tiny, tiny, tiny lead, which

1737
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 3: means on the night the Orange guy overperforms, he does well,

1738
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: he exceeds expectations, and he wins the swing states, which

1739
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: is the only ones that he needs to worry about.

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: And if I remember correctly, he can win six of them,

1741
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 3: the last one being Nevada. That doesn't matter so much.

1742
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: He can win six of them, and that's his path

1743
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 3: the victory. Brace Yourself Sex twenty two.

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1745
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duperic Allen and my HR,

1746
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: the HR solution for busy SMEs news dogs FB.

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: Hey, we have got a rain delay in the cricket.

1748
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 3: Now apparently the rain has already stopped, so you know

1749
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 3: they should resume shortly, and I hope they do because

1750
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,520
Speaker 3: thirteen for three I'm loving that. Heather, you'll never Trump supporters,

1751
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 3: never trump any thing like never hyphen trump. You'll never

1752
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: Trump supporters need to wake up and do a little

1753
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: reading and watching. He may be orange, but for New

1754
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 3: Zealand he is by far the best pack that's rempeate,

1755
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: and it's probably an element of truth to that economically

1756
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: he may well be. In fact, he may well actually

1757
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: be the best thing for the US economically, which is

1758
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: the most important thing. But then you do have to

1759
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 3: deal with all the other crap that he brings. Anyway,

1760
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,919
Speaker 3: six twenty six, if you have been following the Solicitor

1761
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: General's guidelines to prosecutors to tell them to think twice

1762
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: before they put mardy offenders in jail, you might be

1763
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: quite interested in the insight from Audrey Young of the

1764
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: Herald Today. Now Audrey has published a piece in which

1765
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: she says, apparently the Solicitor General Uner Jegosi was actually

1766
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: given a little bit of a warning before she published

1767
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: those guidelines that it's not a great idea to publish

1768
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: the guidelines, but she published them anyway. Apparently what happened

1769
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: is when she'd written up the draft guidelines where she

1770
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: was like, hey, if your offender's Marty, maybe you don't

1771
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: want to put him in jail. When she publish when

1772
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: she wrote the draft guidelines, the Auditor General, who was

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 3: the Judith Collins, who is the only you know, person

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 3: senior to un A Jegozsi, saw the guidelines and she

1775
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: she didn't love what she saw, and so she said

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01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 3: to UNA, but of worry about this, and UNA published

1777
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 3: it anyway. And then so because UNA was going to

1778
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: publish it anyway, Judith was like, well, I'm not going

1779
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 3: to write a foreword for the guidelines. And normally an

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01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 3: Attorney General would do that. She didn't do it. Uner

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: published Here we are in the situation. This is what

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01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 3: Audrey says. It is astonishing that the seasoned Solicitor General

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01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 3: Uner Jegosie Casey has got herself into political difficulty over

1784
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 3: the latest revision of the prosecution guidelines. Astonishingly, she did

1785
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 3: not foresee the political difficulty it would place the government

1786
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 3: in or she did foresee it and continued anyway, She

1787
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: says as to the independence this is, Audrey says, as

1788
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 3: to the independence of the Solicitor General's role, she should

1789
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: not be a mouthpiece for the Attorney General being Judith Collins.

1790
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: But there are limits to the independence of the SG

1791
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 3: and her actions are inviting unnecessary tension in her relationship

1792
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: with the government. At the very least, one would expect

1793
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 3: Crown Law's general policies such as prosecution guidelines not to

1794
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: conflict with the government direction. And boy, oh boy, do

1795
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: they conflict with the government direction or not? Like the

1796
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 3: government has gone out and said we don't want any

1797
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: more of this race based stuff, and what is una,

1798
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: go go and do it, and she goes, here's here's

1799
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 3: a big old race based thing right in your lap.

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Speaker 3: So where that she did?

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Speaker 22: That?

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Speaker 3: Headline's next.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the Big Corporates, The Business Hour

1804
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: with Heather Duplicyles and my hr the HRS Solution for

1805
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,759
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Speaker 27: Bay has resumed in the cricket like literally within the

1807
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 27: last minute, I apologize for you, so the word literally,

1808
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 27: but it really does underscore that it did just happen.

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Speaker 3: Can I also say shout out to Tim Southy, I

1810
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: mean the guy by the way, because we didn't mention

1811
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: this earlier, but the guy has just given up the

1812
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 3: captaincy because he was being shite. And then Nick Minner

1813
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 3: he comes out and he bowls what was his name,

1814
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 3: Sharma for two so obviously pressures off Southey's back to

1815
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 3: his best. Welcome back mate, Heather. One of my son's

1816
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: scout leaders is a Crown law solicitor. He told me

1817
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: one of their biggest unwritten rules and policies is Crown

1818
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 3: law should never be in the news. Looks like they're

1819
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: not really achieving that mark as it fails the sniff test.

1820
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: That's quite right, Kevin. But also what's weird about it

1821
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 3: is if the rule is Crown law should never be

1822
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 3: in the news, then why did Una make a decision

1823
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: that basically puts her in the news. Why because she

1824
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 3: obviously had fair warning from Collins, who doesn't muck around

1825
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: like I mean, we're not talking about like a low

1826
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 3: level cabinet before me here, Who's gonna be like, well, well, okay,

1827
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: Una got one over me. This is Judith. Judith knows

1828
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: how to play the game. Are you gonna cross Judith?

1829
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: Judath's gonna find a way? Like where do you think

1830
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: Audre gets all her information from? It doesn't take a

1831
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 3: rock size this to figure out you got brief by

1832
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 3: Judith's office that Judith knew and Judith didn't write the

1833
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: foreword Like that's pretty clear, right, So weird that Una

1834
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 3: has made a decision to take on one of the

1835
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: kind of like absolute ballers in cabinet and thereby land

1836
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 3: herself in the news. Anyway, You've got to deal with

1837
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 3: what you've got it. You've got to make your own decisions. Mate.

1838
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 3: If that's how you want to go out in a

1839
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. Maybe she wants to go

1840
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 3: out in a ball of flames fighting for Maldi offenders

1841
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 3: All power to her andder Brady's gonna be a thus

1842
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 3: and ten minutes talk us through. I am sure the

1843
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 3: reaction in the UK to the one Direction boys death

1844
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: at thirty one twenty three away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper is the Allen.

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: We've got warnings of a pilot and engineer shortage. If

1847
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 3: the government doesn't help students to pay for the training.

1848
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 3: A two year course costs are whopping one hundred and

1849
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars. Now, that is a lot more than

1850
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: students can borrow to be able to go on the course.

1851
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: Simon Wallace is the chief executive of the Aviation Industry Association. Hi, Simon, hello, Ever,

1852
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: so we need about one hundred pilots a year. Now,

1853
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: how many are we actually training.

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01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 21: We're training around four or five hundred students through our

1855
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 21: flight training schools at the moment, and that includes international

1856
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 21: students as well. That number has been as a recovering

1857
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 21: number from COVID. Obviously, we were training a lot more

1858
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 21: before COVID, up to one thousand. So there's many reasons

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 21: for that. And you know, one of the reasons is

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Speaker 21: around as far as domestic students is concerned, is around

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Speaker 21: the student loan cap, which has a set at seventy

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Speaker 21: thousand in tuition fees are now for training to be

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Speaker 21: a pilot or one hundred and twenty, so having to

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Speaker 21: funder a fifty thousand.

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Speaker 3: KI but we need one hundred and we're training five hundred.

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Speaker 3: What's the problem.

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Speaker 21: Because many of those are international students and they don't

1868
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 21: stay in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So how many of them do we know? Would stay here.

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01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 3: How many of them are care.

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Speaker 21: We students, so round about two hundred and fifty currently,

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01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 21: and those those are quite low numbers because we're only

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Speaker 21: just recovering from COVID.

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Speaker 3: But again, and that doesn't sound bad. We need If

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01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: we need one hundred and we've got two fifty, what's the.

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Speaker 21: Problem because some of those as well whither are going

1877
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 21: overseas and not and we can't eat we can't always

1878
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 21: retain them in New Zealand. So that's the challenge that

1879
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 21: we've got.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, So as you were saying, when it cost

1881
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 3: about one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year to

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01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 3: train this and I think you can only take out

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01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 3: about seventy k, can't you in your student load, which

1884
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 3: means you need your mom or your dad or yourself

1885
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 3: to fund it. So this is just rich kids who

1886
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 3: become pilots.

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01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, that that is the situation that's been created.

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01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 21: And yes, if you look at the pilot demographic now,

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 21: it is largely mailed, is largely from that cohort, and

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 21: we actually want to provide entry for a whole range

1891
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 21: of New Zealanders to get into pilot training and we

1892
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 21: can't do that with the way it is.

1893
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 3: At the moment, Okay, what do we do about it?

1894
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 21: So look, the government has asked us to provide some

1895
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 21: evidence of the shortages are certainly anecdotes, and we've gone

1896
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 21: away and done that work and we can now evidence

1897
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 21: that there are shortages. And this is about the future, Heather,

1898
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 21: this is about the next five to ten years, and

1899
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 21: we're seeing you not only seeing shortages coming in New Zealand,

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01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 21: but obviously globally. So it's about giving a heads up

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01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 21: to the government that we need to get these settings changed.

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01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 21: If we want more kiwis coming into the pilot workforce

1903
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 21: and engineering force, then we need to look at some

1904
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 21: of these policy setting.

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01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 3: If I remember correct in New Zealand is doing a

1906
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: thing where the it sounds like they are paying for

1907
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 3: the training, aren't they.

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01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 21: Yeah, and that's great, and we are braud in the industry.

1909
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 21: We are brawd in New Zealand. They've they've got thirty

1910
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 21: they've taken thirty graduates on a cadet program. Yeah, they

1911
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 21: can do that, they can fund that, and that is great,

1912
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 21: but that doesn't say much about the funding and the

1913
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 21: terstie policy settings that we've got here. That they're having

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Speaker 21: that they're being forced into doing that.

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01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a very good point, Simon. Thank

1916
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 3: you appreciate your time that. Simon Wallace, the chief executive

1917
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: of the Aviation Industry Association New Zealand. Hey, University of Otago. Now,

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01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 3: actually a bit of credit to Grant Robertson on something here,

1919
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 3: because he's holding the line on something that I think

1920
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 3: is important. The University of Otago is coppying it a

1921
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 3: wee bit for not taking a position on Gaza at

1922
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: the moment. The students are upset, a couple of lecturers upset.

1923
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Speaker 3: They've written an opinion piece for the Otago Daily Times

1924
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: student magazine. Critic is upset and what they want is

1925
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 3: the University of Otago to take a position on I'm

1926
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 3: guessing condemning Israel and you know, and speaking on behalf

1927
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: of the plant of the people of Gaza, blah blah blah,

1928
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 3: all of that kind of you know stuff. The university

1929
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 3: has decided it's which is commendable because obviously what's going

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Speaker 3: on in Gaza is devastating. The university has decided not

1931
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: to it's it's not going to take a position, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's doing the right thing, because I don't

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Speaker 3: think that universities should take positions on anything, regardless of

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Speaker 3: what it is. On Gaza on jeez, I mean fluoride, vaccines,

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Speaker 3: climate change, nothing. I just don't think they should take

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Speaker 3: a position on anything at all, because universities are places

1937
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Speaker 3: where ideas are supposed to be discussed and challenged, right,

1938
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Speaker 3: So if they take a position, what it means is

1939
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Speaker 3: that the people who might want to challenge that idea

1940
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Speaker 3: feel like they can't say anything contrary to the official position.

1941
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 3: And that's not what we want at a university. We

1942
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: want all ideas to be challenged because once upon a time,

1943
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 3: the Earth was flat until somebody challenged that idea, and

1944
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 3: it was orthodox to say the world was flat, and

1945
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 3: you were a nutjob if you said that the Earth

1946
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: was round. Right, So we have to be open to

1947
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 3: the idea that the things that we accept as orthodoxy

1948
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: may in fact not be correct, and you've got to

1949
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Speaker 3: challenge them. You've got to have an open mind, and

1950
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Speaker 3: especially especially if they are Orthodox ideas. So anyway, I'm

1951
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 3: not taking myself a position in saying this on Gaza,

1952
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying God on Grant Robertson and the university

1953
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Speaker 3: for holding the line on this and saying we do

1954
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Speaker 3: not take positions on things, even if it seems like

1955
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: an obvious thing to do. Seventeen away from seven.

1956
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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1957
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather duper Clan and my Hr

1958
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: the HR Solution for busy sms on News Talk z'b.

1959
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Speaker 3: The pilot's story gets complicated. Hither our son trained here

1960
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 3: in New Zealand but has had to go overseas because

1961
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: there are no jobs for low hour pilots in the

1962
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: small country. Airlines are not going to take on pilots

1963
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Speaker 3: until that between five hundred and one thousand hours and

1964
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: there many of his fellow students have also gone with

1965
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Speaker 3: him overseas. Gin thank you for that. Fourteen away from

1966
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 3: seven into Brady UK Correspondents with us Hey Ininda, Hey,

1967
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 3: Heaven speak to you in the Sad News about Liam Payne.

1968
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Speaker 3: So have we heard from his family yet?

1969
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 14: There's very very little by way of reaction from family

1970
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 14: at the moment, but a lot of tributes pouring in

1971
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 14: from celebrities and singers and everyone in the showbiz industry

1972
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 14: who knew Liam, and I think people here this morning.

1973
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 14: Are really struggling to come to terms with this because

1974
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 14: he burst onto our TV screens as a fourteen year

1975
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 14: old boy auditioning on X Factor. Now obviously fourteen is

1976
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 14: too young. Simon Cowell loved his voice and said, you

1977
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 14: know what, come back in two years time, come back

1978
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 14: to me when you're sixteen, and he did, and he

1979
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 14: just kept going. And then Simon Kell saw something in

1980
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 14: all five of those boys, and individually they weren't strong

1981
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 14: enough to go off and have individual careers at the time.

1982
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 14: Howell put them all together and made one direction and

1983
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 14: the rest is history. And I think it's just so

1984
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 14: sad that he'd gone to Argentina to watch his friend

1985
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 14: from the band Niall Horan, who now has a very

1986
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 14: successful solo career, the young Irish guy. They were pictured

1987
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 14: the other day in Buenos Aire's and now everyone's getting

1988
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 14: ready to bring Lim's body back and prepare for a funeral.

1989
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 14: It's so desperately sad. Thirty one years of age, he

1990
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 14: had a seven year old son, bear with Ryl Cole,

1991
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 14: who is herself, of course a pop star here and

1992
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 14: very famous.

1993
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 3: Erycle wasn't a judge on the thing, was she She

1994
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 3: was but not back then.

1995
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Speaker 14: I don't think she was a judge when he came through,

1996
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 14: but she has been a judge over the years. I've

1997
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 14: matter many times I've interviewed her. I didn't know Liam

1998
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 14: at all, but I have to say, you know, just

1999
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 14: it's heartbreaking, I think to see a guy everything in

2000
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 14: front of him. There's a lot of information coming out

2001
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 14: and now about behavior being erratic last night in the

2002
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 14: hotel in Buenos Aire's reception calling the police to deal

2003
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 14: with an erratic guest, and then when the police turned

2004
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 14: up they found him dead in the courtyard.

2005
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and have you caught up on the backlash with

2006
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: TMZ and posting the pictures of his body.

2007
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 14: Look, TMZ just push it too far, and I think

2008
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 14: it's become such a beha muff of showbiz journalism. They

2009
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 14: don't care about the impact on families. You know, there

2010
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 14: will have been family members in the UK scouring the

2011
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 14: internet for information last night who feasibly could have come

2012
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 14: across that coverage. There is no place in correct responsible

2013
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 14: journalism for that kind of picture.

2014
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2015
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 3: So I see that there's a big capital gains text

2016
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,759
Speaker 3: which is coming for people who self shares.

2017
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Speaker 14: Yes, so this is an easy hit really for the

2018
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 14: labor government. Starmer is adamant that they're trying to just

2019
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 14: fill the black hole and public finances left by the Conservatives.

2020
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 14: Forty four billion enz dollars is the whisper that they

2021
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 14: need to find. So we've already seen the win their

2022
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 14: field payments for pensioners gone. That is gone. That's going

2023
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 14: to bring in maybe three billion dollars of the black hole.

2024
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 14: Rachel Reeves is the Chancellor and what they're going to do.

2025
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 14: Capital gains at the moment is anywhere just around twenty percent,

2026
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 14: So if you sell shares over the value of six

2027
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 14: thousand dollars, the UK government comes calling with its handout

2028
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 14: in the form of the taxman, saying what have you

2029
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 14: got for me? So there is a whisper that capital

2030
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Speaker 14: gains could go as high as thirty nine percent, from

2031
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 14: twenty percent to thirty nine percent. I don't think they're

2032
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 14: going to put it up that high, but ultimately what

2033
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 14: we're seeing now is a lot of high net worth

2034
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 14: individuals with colossal shareholdings getting rid of millions and millions

2035
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Speaker 14: of dollars of shares before the budget in two weeks time.

2036
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 3: Now, how do you feel about a German taking over

2037
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 3: the English football job.

2038
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Speaker 14: I think it's brilliant as an Irishman because I think

2039
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 14: back to the success we had in the late eighties

2040
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Speaker 14: and nineties with Jack Charlton, who was this burly yorkshire

2041
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 14: Man English to the core. He came over to Ireland

2042
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 14: and he was very blunt speaking, and I remember I

2043
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 14: was a kid, I was a teenager. Ireland had achieved

2044
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 14: nothing for a century in soccer and Jack Chardan turned

2045
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 14: up and suddenly we qualified for the European Championships in

2046
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 14: nineteen eighty eight in Germany, Italian ninety the Soccer World Cup,

2047
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 14: we got to the quarterfinals in Rome, losing narrowly to Italy,

2048
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 14: and then we went to the World Cup in America

2049
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 14: in ninety four and actually beat the Italians in New Jersey.

2050
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 23: So Jack Chardan, you.

2051
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 14: Know a lot of people thought, who's this English guy

2052
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 14: coming over here telling us how to do it. The

2053
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 14: whole country fell in love with him and we went

2054
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 14: on the most amazing roller coaster for years and years

2055
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 14: and years. So good luck to Thomas Tookele in London.

2056
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 14: He's got an eighteen month contract and it's clear he

2057
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 14: has been brought in to win the Soccer World Cup.

2058
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 14: England have not done it with the men since nineteen

2059
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 14: sixty six, and I think he's you know, honestly, he

2060
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 14: was a breath of fresh air in the news conference,

2061
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 14: a spark. He charismatic German guy, you know, I think,

2062
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 14: and people are saying, oh kind of Germans fit in.

2063
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 14: But the England team he speaks English better than most

2064
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 14: of the people who followed the England team away having

2065
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 14: seen them on the ground. Honestly, he's going to have

2066
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 14: no problems.

2067
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: There's such a there's such a funny coin from you

2068
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 3: end it and harsh and I love it, Thank you

2069
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 3: so much. Enda Brady, UK, correspondent to was the English

2070
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: The English football fans are so funny about these things.

2071
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Listen.

2072
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you there are some councils do

2073
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: stupid things, but there are some things that are stupider

2074
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 3: than others. I got a stupid one for you next

2075
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 3: eight away from seven.

2076
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

2077
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with hither duplicy Ellen

2078
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,839
Speaker 1: and my HR the HR platform for sme.

2079
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 3: Usp okay, six away from seven. So, as I say,

2080
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: councils just stupid things some things are more stupid than others,

2081
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: and this is particularly stupid. What makes it even better

2082
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: is it it's all Wellington City Council. Now, Wellington City

2083
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 3: Council has this thing. This is the co textity to

2084
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: understand about Wellington City Council.

2085
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 16: Right.

2086
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 3: They do all kinds of stupid things on the roads

2087
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 3: and the and they always have the justification we're trying

2088
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 3: to keep people safe. We're trying to keep people safe.

2089
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 3: So everything is about trying to keep people save that

2090
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: all the speed limits dropped to thirty trying to keep

2091
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: people safe. Right, So they love keeping people safe on

2092
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: the roads, right, So bear that in mind when I

2093
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 3: tell you this. They decided to do a repaint of

2094
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Tenacoury Road a particular section there. This is where where

2095
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 3: Tinacouri Road meets Saint Mary's Street. So it's just one

2096
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 3: little section there. The Tinacorey Road, if you don't know,

2097
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 3: is the road that the Prime Minister's residence on. It

2098
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 3: is on it's up the hill behind Parliament kind of

2099
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 3: runs parallel with the seashore almost, you could say, so

2100
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 3: where Saint Mary's Street hits Tenancoury Road there, you know,

2101
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 3: like if you can imagine extending Saint Mary's Street to

2102
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: sort of the other side of the curb. That whole

2103
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 3: block they have decided to paint it, and they've painted

2104
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 3: it in sort of like a crisscrossy kind of thing

2105
01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: of yellow lines because it's part of a realignment project

2106
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 3: aimed at relocating a bus stop due to ongoing congestion issues.

2107
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what

2108
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 3: they're doing. It'scause something to do with a bus stop

2109
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 3: that's being moved. So they decided this particular intersection they're

2110
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 3: going to paint the whole thing. Chris Cross Yellow Lines

2111
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 3: did this a month ago. Trouble is, the paint is

2112
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 3: slippery in the rain, so in the last month, all

2113
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 3: of a sudden they've had all of these accidents and

2114
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 3: near misses and incidents and stuff. Two significant crashes have happened.

2115
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 3: The first is a cyclist presumably slipped on this stuff

2116
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,480
Speaker 3: and fell over, and the other one was a motorcyclist

2117
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 3: who came and skidded on the slippery paint and then

2118
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 3: ended up crashing. Wellington City Council when they were first

2119
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: approached about this, first of the complaints came in to say, hey, guys,

2120
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 3: you've made a whoopsie here. They were like, no, no, no,

2121
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. All the materials we're using a

2122
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 3: compliance with Mzta Whaka Kultahi standards. It's fine. So they

2123
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 3: were like, don't deal with it. Then after the second

2124
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 3: incident they did acknowledge that year maybe there was a

2125
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 3: little bit of a problem with what they'd done. Now

2126
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 3: they've decided that the new story they're telling everybody it's is,

2127
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 3: it's temporary and it will be fixed. Unreal. I just

2128
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 3: all I can say is who thought it was a

2129
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 3: great idea to paint? Like everybody knows paint is more

2130
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: slippery than tar seal in the rain? Why do you

2131
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 3: go criss crossing the whole bloody thing in yellow lines?

2132
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 3: You dickheads? Sorry for the language as Wellington City Council though.

2133
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 3: So it's probably justified and the.

2134
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 6: Story of my life by one direction to play us

2135
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 6: out tonight. Obviously it's the only kind of music story

2136
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 6: in town at the moment. Very sad and shocking death

2137
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 6: of Liam Payne. So I did a quick straw poll

2138
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 6: of all the directions and former directions in the office.

2139
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 6: They said this is probably the nice one to end on.

2140
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 3: So that's what is this a one direction song?

2141
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 6: This is a one direction song?

2142
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, enjoy the rest of the song. See tomorrow

2143
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 3: News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: Beat It's f.

2145
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Speaker 23: Sorry this stile.

2146
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Speaker 2: Story for more from Hither Duplessye Alan Drive.

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