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Speaker 1: So we might have some issues around these school phone

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Speaker 1: band ro Education Review Office has had a bit of

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Speaker 1: a look at one schools to get tougher. Only half

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Speaker 1: of students are actually following the rules.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Drum is the headmaster at Mount Albert Grammar in

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Speaker 1: Auckland as well as Patrick, morning to you morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: Does half sound about right? Only half following the rules?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you'd want to unpack that a little

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Speaker 2: bit further. I think if you're walking into classrooms it'll

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Speaker 2: be very rare to see cell phones out in that

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Speaker 2: teaching and learning environment. And I think the survey has

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Speaker 2: been asking students have they maybe stuck around the corner

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Speaker 2: into the bathroom whatever to access their cell phone? And

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Speaker 2: I mean that's another rest you altogether. But in the

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Speaker 2: learning environment it's been a very very successful initiative in

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Speaker 2: terms of having cell phones away in that classroom environment.

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Speaker 1: So given that scenario, do we worry at lunchtime whether

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Speaker 1: they're on their phones or not? I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: not doing it in the classroom and that's improving, that's

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Speaker 1: what really counts, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, this becomes part of a school's normal management process really,

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Speaker 2: whether it's if you know, the challenge we've had with

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Speaker 2: things like vaping and that sort of stuff is very

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Speaker 2: rare to get vaping happening in the middle of a

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Speaker 2: classroom that we still know it's happening in our schools,

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Speaker 2: and there's processes to address that. So, I mean, it

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Speaker 2: is an ongoing process around student management, student discipline, but

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Speaker 2: certainly in the initiative has been very, very successful and insperance.

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Speaker 2: There is the focus and not interrupting that teachting process

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Speaker 2: inside the classroom.

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Speaker 1: It's what I'd like to hear Patrick appreciate the inside.

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Speaker 1: Patrick drum Headmaster, It's Mount Albert Grammit. For more from

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