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Speaker 4: Good morning, Welcome to news Talks EDB Jack Tamee with

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Speaker 4: you through to midday today. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 4: but nothing to me, absolutely nothing says a nice relaxing

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Speaker 4: long weekend Easter Holiday twenty twenty five. Like fifty mils

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Speaker 4: me Naiva. I really thought that extropical cyclone TAM had

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Speaker 4: nine if you're waking up in Auckland this morning, is

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Speaker 4: that for now, at least this round of wild weather

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Speaker 4: not necessarily over, but the skyes are clear this morning.

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Speaker 4: We're going to make sure that we keep you up

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Speaker 4: to date with the very latest not only from weather

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Speaker 4: forecasters this morning, but also from emergency services in cases

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Speaker 4: anything else you need to do, civil defense, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: to prepare for more wild weather over the next wee

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Speaker 4: while busy show for you this morning, as we do

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Speaker 4: try and relax for the Easter weekend. After ten o'clock,

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Speaker 4: cannot wait for this Northern Irish acting legend Hollywood Royalty

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Speaker 4: starred and basically every Blockbluster franchise all over the show

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Speaker 4: over the last few years. He's in New Zealand filming

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Speaker 4: an interview, So going to be with us after ten

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Speaker 4: o'clock and before ten. If you're looking for something a

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Speaker 4: little bit different for Easter Sunday morning for breakfast, maybe

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Speaker 4: you've done a week on the trot of hot Cross buns.

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Speaker 4: You just need a bit of variety in your diet.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic news. We've got an Easter pancake recipe that's still

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Speaker 4: nice and treaty for tomorrow morning, so we'll share that

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Speaker 4: before ten. Right now, it's nine minutes past nine. Jack Tatum,

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Speaker 4: Tam and the pictures made it look like a parody.

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Speaker 4: Eleven minutes after taking off from a West Texas launch site,

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Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin space capsule touchdown with its all

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Speaker 4: female celebrity crew. Bezos opened the capsule door and greeted

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Speaker 4: his fiance, and one by one the women filed out,

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Speaker 4: each in their snazzy blue flared space outfits. Having technically

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Speaker 4: been in space for just four minutes. The pop star

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Speaker 4: the same about space tour as I do about climbing

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Speaker 4: But as it stands today, actually appreciating how much resource

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Speaker 4: I just cannot bear the thought. We all know that

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Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos isn't spending billions upon billions of dollars to

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Speaker 4: it all just feels a bit gross. Perhaps when space

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Speaker 4: Bezos's other heart, but to the crew of the Schmidt

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Speaker 4: Ocean Institute's folk Or vessel, who just captured the first

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Speaker 4: ever footage of a colossal squid in its natural environment.

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Speaker 4: I just find this stuff fascinating. So colossal squid are

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Speaker 4: we know remarkably little about this species. It's only a

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Speaker 4: better at tracking down colossal squid than humans are, but

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Speaker 4: against the absolute black of the deep deep, the squid

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Speaker 4: Isn't it amazing that our species can send a rocket

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Speaker 4: I think that's remarkable. I think that's incredible, and I

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Speaker 4: fascinations and discoveries await us in the infinite depths of

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Speaker 4: the cosmos. There are still so many miracles and mysteries

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Speaker 4: much closer to home, in the infinite depths of the

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Speaker 4: real Blue Origin. Jack Tab ninety two. Ninety two is

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Speaker 4: it was a bit of a twilight Zone moment for

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Speaker 4: me last night watching the last couple of minutes of

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Speaker 4: that incredible Cruise Blues Crusaders match. Seeing seeing James O'Connor

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Speaker 4: Right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 4: EDB sixteen minutes past nine on news doorgs eDV with

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Speaker 4: Jack Tame. Jack so agreed with what you just said

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Speaker 4: about the real wonders of this world. Jack fully agree,

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Speaker 4: regarding Katie Berry in particular, my god, what a ridiculous

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Speaker 4: no more earth breaking these days than crossing the road.

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Speaker 4: Well said Dean, you said what I said in about

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Speaker 4: for the Easter weekend This morning, Killer Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Jack, I totally agree with you what you've said this

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Speaker 5: morning very well put. Actually, I think the odd thing

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Speaker 5: a way, I don't think the colossal squid is colossal.

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Speaker 5: It's large, but it's not colossal. Colossal squid exhibition it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they still have it there, don't they. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's still Yeah. I think that's it's fantastic

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Speaker 4: that that exhibition. But yeah, I mean it's still so

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Speaker 4: I think I think the thing about the squid is

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Speaker 4: I just love that exhibition. How they've kind of preserved it.

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Speaker 4: it's almost like an inflated balloon. And I the sense

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Speaker 4: And interestingly, actually the one they filmed and I conveniently

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Speaker 4: Oh they're beautiful. No, it's so alien, that's the thing,

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Speaker 4: There's no kind of natural light or anything. At six

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Speaker 4: it's absolutely amazing. If you get a chance, we'll make sure.

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Speaker 4: Actually we put a photo up on the news talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be website. But Kevin, you have you've got into

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Speaker 4: the spirit of Easter. In fact, you got into it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, earlier in the week I was wondering what eastery

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Speaker 5: Last Thursday, of course, was Maundy Thursday, or as the

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Speaker 5: Christian Church calls it, Holy Thursday, the day commemorates the

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Speaker 5: so the theme of Maundy Thursday remains humility, and it

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Speaker 6: Yeah it was morning Jack.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to come up with some woody line

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Speaker 4: different generations, sitting there having a cup of tea together.

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Speaker 4: So a special couple of photos yesterday morning for the

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Speaker 4: weekend while I'm in Nelson. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: your text and emails this hour. We have had gazillions,

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Speaker 4: rob said Jack regarding Maundy Thursday and having a bit

436
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Speaker 4: of a fall. This happened to me in my sixties.

437
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Speaker 4: I was briskly walking passing a woman. I scuffed the

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Speaker 4: uneven footpath and whoops, went down, face first, embarrassed, to

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Speaker 4: say the least. And someone's pointed out that when you

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Speaker 4: pass a certain age, there's a kind of pivotal moment

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Speaker 4: in your life when all of a sudden the language turns.

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Speaker 4: So when you're below a certain age, and you fall, well,

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Speaker 4: that's called tripping over. But then when you're above a

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Speaker 4: certain age, it's called having a fall. And it's shocking

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Speaker 4: to realize how you're seen by the world ninety two

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Speaker 4: ninety two. If you want to send us a message

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Speaker 4: your film picks for the weekend next right now, it's

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Speaker 4: twenty five to ten, twenty two to ten. You've jactaime

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Speaker 4: on news stories, you'd be Jack. How about that amazing

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Speaker 4: Crusader's crowd last night? As an aucklander, I watched that

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Speaker 4: rain soaked atmosphere in envy. Yeah, it did look like

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Speaker 4: an incredible atmosphere that Crusader's blues match last night. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for your feedback. We'll get to where your messages

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Speaker 4: very shortly. Right now, though, time to catch up with

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Speaker 4: our film reviewer, Francesca Rudkin for her film picks this

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Speaker 4: Easter weekend. Hey Francesca, Hi Jack. Let's start off with

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Speaker 4: a little listen to the latest film starring Steve Coogan.

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Speaker 4: This is the Penguin Lessons. Where is he from? Is

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Speaker 4: you yours?

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Speaker 1: I rescued him from an oil selector and now he

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Speaker 1: thinks he's my friend?

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Speaker 2: Okay, how'd you go not my penguin. I don't like penguins.

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Speaker 4: And why did you Stevie's life?

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Speaker 8: Because I was trying to be impressed a woman. We

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Speaker 8: have to go now now I ended up in a penguin.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's Steve Coogan having adopted a penguin he has.

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Speaker 9: The film is called The Penguin Lessons. It's an adaptation

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Speaker 9: of Tom Mitchell's memoir and Stephen Steve Coogan. He's kind

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Speaker 9: of in Philameno mode. Here we are in nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 9: He plays Tom. We're in Buenos Aires and Peron has

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Speaker 9: just been ousted by a military coup. He is an

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Speaker 9: English teacher at a private boys' school. There's a lot

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Speaker 9: of privileged young men whose parents are all kind of

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Speaker 9: caught up in what is going on at the moment Politically.

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Speaker 9: Tom is not a hugely inspirational teacher, Jack or man.

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Speaker 9: He's in South America on the run from a family tragedy.

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Speaker 9: He is not huge interested in his job. He just

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Speaker 9: earns a living. He does enough so that he can

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Speaker 9: go on. You can go away for weekends, take a

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Speaker 9: little holiday. He can have a few drinks, meet a lady,

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Speaker 9: or to avoid the world. He is just on the

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Speaker 9: run from life. He's just trying to live his own

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Speaker 9: life and looking for escapism. And on one of these

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Speaker 9: holiday weekends he's in Uruguay, he too impress a woman.

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Speaker 9: As you heard him trailer, he saves his penguin from

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Speaker 9: an oil slick and they clean it up, and then

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Speaker 9: he tries to return it to the beach. And then

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Speaker 9: how this penguin ends up back at his school and

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Speaker 9: what his areas is kind of unbelievable. But if you

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Speaker 9: can accept that when a problem becomes too difficult for

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Speaker 9: people to deal with, sometimes they just find it easier

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Speaker 9: to let a man smuggle a penguin across the border,

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Speaker 9: you'll understand how this has happened.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 9: The penguin kind of becomes everybody's best friend. The boys

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Speaker 9: that Tom teach suddenly become more motivated to learn English,

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Speaker 9: as colleagues find the penguin a good listener. He's just

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Speaker 9: this distraction that they all kind of need at this point.

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Speaker 9: But the film also acknowledges that what is going on

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Speaker 9: at this particular point and in time politically, and so

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Speaker 9: you've got this quite sweet story and then it turns

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Speaker 9: a little bit more political and one of the school

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Speaker 9: workers has taken and Tom sort of signs the courage

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Speaker 9: to put his head about the pulpit and stand up

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Speaker 9: for something. Look, I think Steve Coagan, he totally nails

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Speaker 9: the comedic side of this. It's kind of a little

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Speaker 9: quirky and a little unusual, and I think he does

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Speaker 9: that really well. I wasn't hugely convinced that he'd sort

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Speaker 9: of went on this kind of emotional journey to become

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Speaker 9: this better man and to overcome maybe the issues in

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Speaker 9: his own life. I'm not quite sure whether the performance

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Speaker 9: kind of got me that far. And I think it

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Speaker 9: is very difficult when you set a film at a

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Speaker 9: time when there is something so large and important happening politically.

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Speaker 9: You know, you have tens of thousands of people being disappeared,

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Speaker 9: and you're trying to kind of balance this.

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Speaker 4: It's quite a sort of trivial story with an incredible.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm not entirely sure they've balanced that well.

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Speaker 9: But look, this is a nice kind of Sunday afternoon,

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Speaker 9: like if you're interested in penguins.

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Speaker 4: Very good well Steve Kirk and never thought they'd be

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Speaker 4: on screen together. So that is the Penguin lessons. That's

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Speaker 4: showing in cinemas. Now, next up another film showing at

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Speaker 4: the flicks and probably one you want to see on

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Speaker 4: the big screen.

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Speaker 2: This is Warfare.

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Speaker 8: Use Burke to pick an improvement, speaking with serious intent

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Speaker 8: to prove Alpha two that you might have guys starting

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Speaker 8: to move on our position.

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Speaker 10: We're getting build up of activity here too, guy Web

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Speaker 10: at this point, Yeah, we have definitely massive.

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Speaker 4: Dunt dunt dun. That's warfare. Sounds like a bit of

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Speaker 4: blood and guts and popcorn.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Look, I'm really glad that we started with the pleasant

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Speaker 9: light comedy because Warfare, I Apologize, is not easy watching

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Speaker 9: for an Easter weekend. It's directed by a former seal,

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Speaker 9: Ray Mendoza, along with Alex Garland, who you will know

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Speaker 9: as the director of Civil War and Ex Machine Or

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Speaker 9: and Things. And at the beginning of this film, instead

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Speaker 9: of saying this is based on a true event, they

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Speaker 9: say that this film uses only their memories and that's

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Speaker 9: really important to note. So this is basically it's based

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Speaker 9: primarily on Mendoza's memories of this one day in Iraq

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Speaker 9: when a seal to Tune creep into an Iraqi town

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Speaker 9: to do surveillance. A head of ground troops surviving. The

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Speaker 9: next day, they pick a home. They take over this home.

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Speaker 9: They put the family who lives there that's sort of

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Speaker 9: in a room, and then they start surveiling the street.

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Speaker 9: And during that surveillance they realize that there is some

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Speaker 9: suspicious movement going on and they prepare themselves for action.

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Speaker 9: This is a film about the nature of war.

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Speaker 6: It's quite a.

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Speaker 9: Political it's an anti war film. There is nothing glamorized,

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Speaker 9: nothing dramatized. There is no creative license here.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 9: They're not trying to entertain us. They try to say,

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Speaker 9: this is an ordinary day in the life of a soldier,

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Speaker 9: and they are trying to take you into that world.

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Speaker 9: And they're trying to show that it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 9: side you're on, or whether you're a civilian or just

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Speaker 9: an innocent bystander. There is absolutely no way that you

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Speaker 9: could walk out of an environment like this without being

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Speaker 9: seriously damaged. And I'm not saying this physically, I'm saying mentally.

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Speaker 9: It is absolutely grueling. The dialogue is all military jargon.

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Speaker 9: There is no lovely soundtrack here. The sound is actually

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Speaker 9: what is happening on the day. So as they're waiting,

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Speaker 9: it's silent they're waiting that you're very patiently. You can

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Speaker 9: feel that kind of tension building, and then once the

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Speaker 9: action does cakin, it's just gunfire. It's just horrific screams

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Speaker 9: of soldiers. It's an incredibly visceral film, very intense. You

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Speaker 9: will be relieved when it is over, but I was

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Speaker 9: incredibly grateful for the experience.

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Speaker 4: It's quote, oh superb Okay, yeah, that sounds really interesting,

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Speaker 4: but one you probably just want to watch at the

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Speaker 4: right time, in the right frame of mind. Right. You

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Speaker 4: want to be strategic. You don't just want to turn

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Speaker 4: up at the movies looking for some relaxation and decompression

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden find yourself twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: into Warfare this week, not that film. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it sounds really interesting. Okay, cool. So that is Warfare

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Speaker 4: that's showing in cinemas now. The Penguin Lessons is the

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Speaker 4: one with Steve Coogan and is on at the flicks

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Speaker 4: as well. Thank you so much, Francesca. The details for

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Speaker 4: those films, of course, we'll be up on the news talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be website and don't forget right after the ten

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Speaker 4: o'clock news this morning, our feature interview hot off his

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Speaker 4: nomination for an Oscar am Bafter for his performance in Belfast,

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Speaker 4: Irish actor Kieran Hines is going to be with us,

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Speaker 4: so make sure you stick around for that next up.

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Speaker 4: If you feel like Hot Cross Buns aren't going to

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Speaker 4: do it tomorrow morning, you want something a little bit

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Speaker 4: different for you for your Easter Sunday breakfast. A fantastic

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Speaker 4: recipe this year. Right now, it's quarter to ten.

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bepure dot cot dots here for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements used talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be thirteen two ten on news Talks, he'd be

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Speaker 4: I'm with the family in Nelson this weekend. So we've

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Speaker 4: got what five cousins, so five kids under eight, Mom

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Speaker 4: and dad, me, my sister, my brother in law, my wife.

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Speaker 4: Every one at a full house to say the least.

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Speaker 4: But whenever the family gets together, it is a time

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Speaker 4: for mucho treats in the tame household. I know that

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Speaker 4: Nicky works will appreciate that kind of ethos, and she's

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Speaker 4: with us the head of Easter Sunday this morning, Killed

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Speaker 4: and Nikki.

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Speaker 12: I totally appreciate that, Ethos. I also have a house

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Speaker 12: full of people, and I am the auntie that knows

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Speaker 12: no rules and lots.

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Speaker 2: Of treats away.

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Speaker 4: So here's here's how things before before You've got a

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Speaker 4: great little recipe just to mix things up for us

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Speaker 4: tomorrow morning freeze to Sunday. But you'll be pleased to

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Speaker 4: know that I've not only have I been a bit

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Speaker 4: eastery for my breakfast this morning, I've also mixed things up.

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Speaker 4: So I've had two hot Cross buns with like you know,

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Speaker 4: like fifty to fifty butter to bun ratio, of course.

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Speaker 4: And then I followed it up with my favorite breakfast

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Speaker 4: and one that I only ever enjoy when I'm home

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Speaker 4: with Mum, and that is I had two Brandy Snaps

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Speaker 4: with cream that were left over from dessert last night. Well,

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Speaker 4: and the thing is, if you leave a Brandy Snap

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Speaker 4: until the next day, it kind of soaked through and

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Speaker 4: has this oh my goodness, it's so good.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, you were talking my language. That and pavlover

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Speaker 12: they both soften up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Cream it was so slightly fridge stale, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Just breakfast Champions.

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Speaker 8: Breakfast.

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Speaker 12: Anyway, I've done the same So I made a batch

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Speaker 12: of hot Cross buns last night and then I freshened

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Speaker 12: them up this morning. But you know, hot Cross buns,

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Speaker 12: they do take ninety nine million hours to make. They

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Speaker 12: are definitely worth it to make yourself. People go online

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Speaker 12: and check my Facebook or Insta and you'll find my

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Speaker 12: tried and true recipe. But I have also been making

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Speaker 12: these and they are Easter pancakes, Jack, and they are divine.

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Speaker 12: So I thought to myself, what can you make that

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Speaker 12: has all the flavors of Easter? And if you think

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Speaker 12: about what water in buns, there's currants and sultanas, there's

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Speaker 12: mixed spice, nutmeg, there's cinnamon in there, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 12: you're already really after as the lashings of butter.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 12: So I've made these beautiful pancakes, and this is what

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Speaker 12: I do. I make them with oats. I have no

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Speaker 12: idea why I just do it. You could probably do

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Speaker 12: it with flour. But I take two thirds of a

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Speaker 12: cup of rolled oats and I blitz those in a

651
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Speaker 12: blender till it's kind of like flour, so it's oat flour.

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Speaker 12: Tip these into a bowl and add in the spices

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Speaker 12: and use lots of spices, one teaspoon of cinnamon, one

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Speaker 12: teaspoon of mixed spice, half a teaspoon of nutmeg. And

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Speaker 12: then we want a few little raising agents in there,

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Speaker 12: and I use half a teaspoon of baking powder and

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Speaker 12: half a teaspoon of baking soda. Whisk that add all

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Speaker 12: up all of those dry ingredients, and then in a

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Speaker 12: cup or another little bowl whisked together some mashed banana,

660
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Speaker 12: one mashed banana, one egg, and some yogurt or some water.

661
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Speaker 12: And you really want I don't know, maybe quart of

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Speaker 12: a cup of that, and then start adding some water

663
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Speaker 12: or milk, and you just want to make sure that

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Speaker 12: is quite a fixed sort of batter mixture. Add in

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Speaker 12: your currants and I've used three tablespoons of currants or

666
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Speaker 12: sultanas here if you want, you can also put on

667
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Speaker 12: lots of orange zest and lemon zest, and that also

668
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Speaker 12: will give you that really beautiful hot cross bun flavor,

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Speaker 12: and all of that up until it forms a lovely

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Speaker 12: smooth dough. Don't overmix it because that just means that

671
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Speaker 12: you'll get a sort of tough pancake. And you want

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Speaker 12: to start cooking them pretty soon after you've done this,

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Speaker 12: because those raising agents have met up with the liquid

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Speaker 12: and they're already starting to puff and activate. Heat a

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Speaker 12: pan with that medium, Grease the surface ever so slightly

676
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Speaker 12: on that first lot with a little butter, but you

677
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Speaker 12: shouldn't have to afterwards drop big tablespoons of the batter

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Speaker 12: into the And this makes at least twelve pancakes, so

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Speaker 12: you all in your family get at least a couple each,

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Speaker 12: I'd say, down there, jack and then cook until browned

681
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Speaker 12: on one side and slightly puffed. Flip them over, cook

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Speaker 12: right through. They do take a little bit of cooking,

683
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Speaker 12: and then I actually prefer to eat them a little

684
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Speaker 12: bit cooler than you know, hot out of the pan

685
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Speaker 12: and have that just brings up the spice flavor.

686
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Speaker 4: A little bit more interesting.

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Speaker 9: Suve them with lots of.

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Speaker 12: Butter syrups if you want fancy anything, you fancy really

689
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Speaker 12: and it's a happy easter all round. It's honestly, they're

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Speaker 12: absolutely gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: It sounds so good and such a good little alternative

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Speaker 4: if you haven't faffed about with hot cross bunds. Not

693
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Speaker 4: to say the homegross hot cross buns aren't incredible and delicious.

694
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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean slightly, I'm a bit

695
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Speaker 4: of a shortcut to an eastery flavor. Yeah, it's put

696
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Speaker 4: it that way. You'll have these, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, in the bowl and on the table within twenty minutes,

698
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Speaker 12: whereas it's a good six hours for those hot cross

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Speaker 12: buns to rise a few times. So you know it's

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Speaker 12: not either.

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Speaker 9: All I've done both.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's my ethos.

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Speaker 12: All right, there go exactly chocolate everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: We will put that recipe up on the news talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be website the easiest way to find everything from

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Speaker 4: dot nzed Ford slash Jack. Have a wonderful Easter weekend, Nikki,

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Speaker 4: and we will catch you very soon. Right now, it

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Speaker 4: is eight minutes to.

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Speaker 1: Ten, giving you the inside scoop on all you need

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Speaker 4: I've had so many text and emails that out. I

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Speaker 4: thank you very much if you flick me a message through,

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Speaker 4: and sorry if I haven't got to it yet yet.

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Speaker 4: Being the pivotal word. I'm going to share this one

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Speaker 4: from Peter because it's very nice. Indeed, Jack, I look

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Speaker 4: forward to your opening comments on Saturday mornings every week,

720
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Speaker 4: and you absolutely nailed it this morning. I don't always

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Speaker 4: agree with you, but I share your fascination when it

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Speaker 4: comes to colossal squid and your distaste of the billionaires

723
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Speaker 4: sending their mates to space.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I've been a little bit harsh

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Speaker 4: on the celebrities who got fired up there. It just

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Speaker 4: just it seemed a little bit silly. And then I

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Speaker 4: just I just thought the contrast with that from you know,

729
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Speaker 4: the kind of embracing that the explorer spirit. I felt like, actually,

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Speaker 4: what was achieved in those Antarctic waters in filming that

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Speaker 4: colossal squid and kind of you know, unwrapping that mystery

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Speaker 4: just a little bit more. I thought that was remarkable.

733
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Speaker 4: Regarding the colossal squid, Jack, twenty years ago, I was

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Speaker 4: working on a fishing boat circumnavigating the South Island targeting

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Speaker 4: hawky when we caught a colossal squid in the net.

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Speaker 4: The suckers were about the size of a cup with

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Speaker 4: a hook in each sucker, and the hood was larger

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Speaker 4: than me at six foot two. The beak was the

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Speaker 4: size of a large dinner plate that could easily have

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Speaker 4: crushed a skull, and the fishing company was offered tens

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Speaker 4: of thousands of dollars by a Japanese company. However, of course,

742
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Speaker 4: colossal squid are protected and by law we had to

743
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Speaker 4: donate it to Tapapa for scientific study. What an amazing experience.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's, you know, like add in a sense

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Speaker 4: when you're dredging, you know, when you're pulling something like

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Speaker 4: that up. Although usually I think colossal squid are very deep,

747
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Speaker 4: so if you're pulling it up at that you know

748
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Speaker 4: kind of depth, that probably suggests that maybe not all

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Speaker 4: as well. But thank you very much for sharing that

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Speaker 4: with us. They really are an extraordinary creature. I just

751
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Speaker 4: think it's amazing that something as long as a bus,

752
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Speaker 4: that weighs as much as a car has taken us

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Speaker 4: until twenty twenty five to film. Anyway, ninety two ninety

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Speaker 4: two is our text number if you want to send

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Speaker 4: us a message after ten o'clock. What to Harry Potter,

756
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Speaker 4: Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings and Frozen all

757
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Speaker 4: have in common. One man Kieren Hines, Irish acting legend

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Speaker 4: Oscar nominee Kieren Hines has been filming in New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: We've managed to track him down for an interview, so

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Speaker 4: he's going to be with us very shortly. It's almost

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Speaker 4: news time. We'll get the latest on the storm overnight.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning. This is Newstalg's EDB.

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Speaker 4: Mordkoto. You're with Jack Taime on Newstork ZV through to

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Speaker 4: midday today. Kieren Hines's acting talents lend himself to both

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Speaker 4: villainous rolls and simmering heroics. His long and storied career

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Speaker 4: has included intimate Shakespearean theater productions right through to major

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Speaker 4: franchises such as Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Lord of

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Speaker 4: the Rings, and the Disney animation Frozen. Karen's latest project,

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Speaker 4: The Narrow Road to the Deep North, is an intimate

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Speaker 4: character study of human spirit. It's a series based on

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Speaker 4: the novel by Richard Fanagan see against the backdrop of

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Speaker 4: the Japanese Prisoner of War camp during the Second World War.

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Speaker 9: Tell me how did it feel going from a soldier

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Speaker 9: into a prisoner of.

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Speaker 8: War to be incarciated when others are fighting.

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Speaker 2: It is hard for soldier.

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Speaker 4: Spirit yours here to build our railway.

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Speaker 9: What do you call most of that time?

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Speaker 8: Memory is the only true of Justine.

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Speaker 4: That's The Narrow Road to the Deep North. And Kiaren

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Speaker 4: Hines is with us this morning, Kilder, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 8: Thank you very much. Jack.

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Speaker 4: The Narrow Road to the Deep North. It is an

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Speaker 4: extraordinary novel by Richard Flanagan. But tell us what drew

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Speaker 4: you to this production.

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Speaker 8: I guess the first thing that dremmagers the production was

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Speaker 8: a contact that my agent got touch saying that Justin

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Speaker 8: Kurzel was interested in me perhaps playing a role in

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Speaker 8: project he was doing. And I had right chance. Had

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Speaker 8: seen a film called Nitrum that or Nitrum, I'm not

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Speaker 8: sure what it's called, but that he and Sean Grant,

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Speaker 8: the writer, had put together and I was very, very

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Speaker 8: moved by it. And I knew that he had some

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Speaker 8: of his work, he had done Macbeth and I so

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Speaker 8: I asked what the project was, and he said, Narrow

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Speaker 8: Wrote to the Deep Knock a book I'd heard of

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Speaker 8: but had never read, and they sent me a couple

801
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Speaker 8: of scripts and I was immediately hooked by the quality

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Speaker 8: of the writing and the story itself. So I went

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Speaker 8: out and got myself the book and then I had

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Speaker 8: this extraordinary, extraordinary experience reading and deeply, deeply moved. I

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Speaker 8: was by the stavatory, the cruelty, the brutality, the love,

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Speaker 8: the deep passion they wanting. It's a huge and hugely

807
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Speaker 8: emotional read for any anybody. But it also filled me

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Speaker 8: in in some history that I wasn't really aware of.

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Speaker 8: And from then I said, I'm very interested in this project,

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Speaker 8: and sort of it down from there.

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Speaker 4: So I'm interested. You say that because because it is

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Speaker 4: a love story, but it also details some of the

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Speaker 4: absolute worst horrors from the Pacific Campaign in the Second

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Speaker 4: World War. And as someone who grew up, I suppose

815
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Speaker 4: in the shadow of the Second World War or in

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Speaker 4: the decades thereafter, was the Pacific dimension to that conflict

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Speaker 4: something that had come across your you know it come

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Speaker 4: across your desk before. Was it something you were aware of?

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Speaker 8: Not in any in any great shakes in any way,

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Speaker 8: Because because I've supposed through history or through school, through whatever,

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Speaker 8: through just location. We were more involved with the war

822
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Speaker 8: in Europe. But I guess the flextionon I would have

823
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Speaker 8: was probably in my late scenes seeing bridge of the

824
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Speaker 8: River Kui, for example, that would have been the reference

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Speaker 8: I would have had. And then so o, my god.

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Speaker 8: And then I read a few things about it. But

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Speaker 8: it's it's very interesting when you read it through. For me,

828
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Speaker 8: from when I read it through literature as opposed to history,

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Speaker 8: it makes it even even more real. The horror, yeah,

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Speaker 8: the savagery, the brutality, and yet the courage and deep

831
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Speaker 8: deep love of men to hold on to each other

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Speaker 8: in a sense of survival and commitment to each other.

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Speaker 8: It was huge. I mean, it's a great human book,

834
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Speaker 8: you know, full of horror, but full of beauty and

835
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Speaker 8: passion and desire. Yeah, So might you read for anybody?

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Speaker 4: Do you do you think that through stories or maybe

837
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Speaker 4: even through personal experience, it's it's a sort of a cliche,

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Speaker 4: you know, the best of times or the worst in

839
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Speaker 4: times brings out the best in people. And and I suppose,

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Speaker 4: I suppose one of the things that's really clear, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'll make no bones about it, this is a times

842
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Speaker 4: a very confronting. Watch it's it's pretty it's pretty dark,

843
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Speaker 4: and viewers are not spared the horrors of you know,

844
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Speaker 4: of life and death as prisoners of war during the

845
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Speaker 4: Second World War in Mianma or in Burma. Do you

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Speaker 4: think we as humans need to experience those absolute horrors

847
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Speaker 4: in order to see the very best of our species

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 8: I'm not one for relishing or indulging in kind of

850
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Speaker 8: torture porn. That's a different thing. But this is a

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Speaker 8: this is a sense of reality I noticed in you know,

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Speaker 8: when I read it, and reading it without being visualized

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Speaker 8: on camera for for a television adaptation, one's imagination takes

854
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Speaker 8: one away into into a terrible place. But what I've

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Speaker 8: found about this when I saw the rough cut was

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Speaker 8: it's kind of it's held back a lot, but it's

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00:45:02,653 --> 00:45:07,813
Speaker 8: it's there. It's held back until a moment arrived that

858
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:12,853
Speaker 8: it becomes relentless. But it is one huge moment and

859
00:45:12,933 --> 00:45:16,013
Speaker 8: yet so it's not regularly in your face all the

860
00:45:16,053 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 8: time or hear it comes again. So when it comes,

861
00:45:18,533 --> 00:45:20,333
Speaker 8: it's like as if it would never stop. But it

862
00:45:20,333 --> 00:45:25,333
Speaker 8: gives you the idea that these men lived under these

863
00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:29,453
Speaker 8: conditions for those years and years, although they you know,

864
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:32,813
Speaker 8: in extremists, they show this one idea of a severe

865
00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:36,973
Speaker 8: beating and it is extraordinary and you're begging yourself, i

866
00:45:36,973 --> 00:45:39,933
Speaker 8: think the viewer, for it to stop, to stop, and

867
00:45:40,013 --> 00:45:42,493
Speaker 8: yet the thing is all the you know, the way

868
00:45:42,493 --> 00:45:45,493
Speaker 8: the story is. These men cannot stop it. There's nothing

869
00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:47,453
Speaker 8: they can stop, and they're witness to it, like we

870
00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:50,773
Speaker 8: are witnessed to watching the filmmaker make this, but in

871
00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:55,293
Speaker 8: not any it's such a human film, and it's it's

872
00:45:55,333 --> 00:45:58,293
Speaker 8: a hard watch. You're right, Jack, it's really hard. And

873
00:45:58,933 --> 00:46:03,213
Speaker 8: then there's those moments that keep Dorrigo Evans the main protagonist,

874
00:46:03,293 --> 00:46:07,093
Speaker 8: this young doctor who helps keep all these people alive

875
00:46:07,653 --> 00:46:09,973
Speaker 8: in a sense of how he can save their lives,

876
00:46:09,973 --> 00:46:14,013
Speaker 8: how he can keep them going, and yet he himself

877
00:46:14,413 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 8: is kept alive by in a way kind of well

878
00:46:17,813 --> 00:46:21,213
Speaker 8: it's not illicit wealth, but his heart is taken profoundly

879
00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:24,133
Speaker 8: by a young woman who he's not intended for. He's

880
00:46:24,173 --> 00:46:27,333
Speaker 8: intended for another woman, but he can't help. But one

881
00:46:27,373 --> 00:46:30,853
Speaker 8: can't help out of the heart dictates your life, and

882
00:46:30,933 --> 00:46:34,093
Speaker 8: that flame keeps him alive and away because all this

883
00:46:34,693 --> 00:46:37,813
Speaker 8: kind of thing is all burning, burning together, and there's

884
00:46:37,933 --> 00:46:41,173
Speaker 8: this sense of what is love and what is devotion

885
00:46:41,333 --> 00:46:45,973
Speaker 8: and need a passion. It's this book that Richard Fanninger note,

886
00:46:46,173 --> 00:46:48,213
Speaker 8: it's full of it. And also because the fact that

887
00:46:48,333 --> 00:46:52,613
Speaker 8: jumps between timing periods between the nineteen forties in Australia

888
00:46:52,693 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 8: and in Burma and then to the nineteen eighties, and

889
00:46:55,613 --> 00:46:58,693
Speaker 8: it keeps going backwards and forwards in that time, and

890
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:02,053
Speaker 8: you see what the kind of a shell of a

891
00:47:02,093 --> 00:47:06,373
Speaker 8: man that this young passionate doctor has become. He's still

892
00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:09,893
Speaker 8: a renowned doctor and he still has empathy, but he's

893
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:12,173
Speaker 8: kind of a shall of a man. He's kind of

894
00:47:13,133 --> 00:47:15,373
Speaker 8: there's a lack of warmth in him anymore. And I

895
00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:18,693
Speaker 8: think it's because of what he's been through so deeply

896
00:47:18,973 --> 00:47:20,053
Speaker 8: in his early life.

897
00:47:20,413 --> 00:47:24,453
Speaker 4: And so you're playing Dorogon Dorogo rather in the nineteen

898
00:47:24,453 --> 00:47:28,493
Speaker 4: eighties and Jacob a Lordie is playing him as a

899
00:47:28,853 --> 00:47:32,373
Speaker 4: young man in the nineteen forties, so obviously the story

900
00:47:32,413 --> 00:47:36,173
Speaker 4: sort of swings between those those two different times. Did

901
00:47:36,213 --> 00:47:38,653
Speaker 4: you work with Jacob at all? Do you with the

902
00:47:38,653 --> 00:47:41,813
Speaker 4: sort of production you don't coordinate around Dorogo's character or

903
00:47:41,813 --> 00:47:42,573
Speaker 4: anything like that.

904
00:47:43,213 --> 00:47:46,133
Speaker 8: No, I guess I always wondered so because Jacob was

905
00:47:46,173 --> 00:47:50,453
Speaker 8: obviously cast to play the younger Dorogo Evans, which is

906
00:47:50,453 --> 00:47:52,653
Speaker 8: the main role, and then I guess they throw a

907
00:47:52,733 --> 00:47:54,813
Speaker 8: net out to see who can play the older one.

908
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:59,213
Speaker 8: And it's kind of interesting. You think poor Jacob is

909
00:47:59,213 --> 00:48:01,213
Speaker 8: going to end up a bit like me when he's old.

910
00:48:01,213 --> 00:48:05,373
Speaker 8: That would be a terrible thing for him. But I

911
00:48:05,413 --> 00:48:09,413
Speaker 8: think it's about a spirit to people that Justin Kurzel,

912
00:48:09,453 --> 00:48:11,693
Speaker 8: director was looking for something that he'd seen in the

913
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 8: performance I've given, is what he was looking for about

914
00:48:14,613 --> 00:48:20,053
Speaker 8: the soul of this man. And I only met it

915
00:48:20,053 --> 00:48:21,693
Speaker 8: was dubbly. To man, it was a terrific actor. But

916
00:48:21,893 --> 00:48:24,613
Speaker 8: I literally met him for five minutes because we were

917
00:48:24,653 --> 00:48:28,493
Speaker 8: in different time zones and I was just finishing and

918
00:48:28,573 --> 00:48:32,653
Speaker 8: he was literally coming back to start restart some of

919
00:48:32,693 --> 00:48:34,973
Speaker 8: the work that they'd already done, and I was just

920
00:48:35,053 --> 00:48:37,053
Speaker 8: in for three weeks to cover what I had to do,

921
00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:39,053
Speaker 8: And so at least we got to say hello.

922
00:48:40,733 --> 00:48:44,853
Speaker 4: It strikes me, Karen, that you have had nothing if

923
00:48:44,893 --> 00:48:50,213
Speaker 4: not an incredibly richly diversified and vary career. You've played

924
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:53,253
Speaker 4: all these characters and all sorts of different production shows, movies,

925
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:56,693
Speaker 4: theater productions over the years, stories all around the world.

926
00:48:57,093 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 4: But I wanted to ask you about Belfast because it's

927
00:49:00,253 --> 00:49:03,213
Speaker 4: a couple of years since I think you were probably

928
00:49:04,053 --> 00:49:07,253
Speaker 4: getting fitted for a suit to go to the Oscars.

929
00:49:07,293 --> 00:49:11,173
Speaker 4: Nominated for your role in Belfast, and as someone who

930
00:49:11,573 --> 00:49:15,773
Speaker 4: grew up in Northern Ireland, did telling that story was

931
00:49:16,613 --> 00:49:19,053
Speaker 4: the personal dimension and connection you had to the place

932
00:49:19,093 --> 00:49:22,293
Speaker 4: in the city. Did that add another kind of element

933
00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:23,493
Speaker 4: to that production for you?

934
00:49:24,733 --> 00:49:29,693
Speaker 8: It was huge. It was huge to me, not the

935
00:49:29,693 --> 00:49:32,093
Speaker 8: fact that you're not made for an oscar, and it

936
00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:34,773
Speaker 8: was huge the idea of just because the way my

937
00:49:34,813 --> 00:49:36,573
Speaker 8: life is gone, you know, through a lot of theater

938
00:49:36,813 --> 00:49:39,853
Speaker 8: and some television and film and bouncing from here to there,

939
00:49:39,973 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 8: not like a headless chicken, sometimes not knowing where am

940
00:49:42,413 --> 00:49:42,733
Speaker 8: I going?

941
00:49:42,773 --> 00:49:42,933
Speaker 2: Now?

942
00:49:42,973 --> 00:49:44,853
Speaker 8: What's the gig? What's the deal? What do I have

943
00:49:44,893 --> 00:49:47,133
Speaker 8: to do? How do I have to prepare? Am I

944
00:49:47,173 --> 00:49:48,933
Speaker 8: going to be able for this? I'm I write for this,

945
00:49:49,013 --> 00:49:51,973
Speaker 8: but keep going. And then suddenly, after all those years

946
00:49:52,013 --> 00:49:54,933
Speaker 8: just working, suddenly Cam Brown sent the script to me

947
00:49:55,133 --> 00:50:00,333
Speaker 8: and I read it and I just connected with it immediately,

948
00:50:00,453 --> 00:50:02,453
Speaker 8: And so I guess I don't know. I would have

949
00:50:02,453 --> 00:50:07,333
Speaker 8: been in my late sixties, late sixties. Then after all

950
00:50:07,373 --> 00:50:12,533
Speaker 8: those years of charging around everywhere. Somebody said I'm down

951
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:13,573
Speaker 8: and come home.

952
00:50:14,213 --> 00:50:14,333
Speaker 2: Uh.

953
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:18,693
Speaker 8: And although we filmed it in Berkshire, in England, all

954
00:50:18,733 --> 00:50:24,253
Speaker 8: of it it was like coming home and they did.

955
00:50:24,373 --> 00:50:29,213
Speaker 8: It is because Ken had been very, very faithful to

956
00:50:29,853 --> 00:50:33,133
Speaker 8: our tribe, our Northern Irish tribe. Even though Ken's Partisant

957
00:50:33,173 --> 00:50:35,933
Speaker 8: and Catholic, it doesn't. We're a tribe from of Irish

958
00:50:35,973 --> 00:50:38,973
Speaker 8: people and we're from the north of Ireland, and we

959
00:50:39,093 --> 00:50:42,533
Speaker 8: have our own separate banter kind of rules, kind of behavior.

960
00:50:43,053 --> 00:50:46,973
Speaker 8: And I recognized in his sensitivity of his writing, and

961
00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:50,893
Speaker 8: the joy is writing that is a different Catholic Protestant

962
00:50:50,973 --> 00:50:54,653
Speaker 8: divide is kind of an invention, not real in a way. Well,

963
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:59,613
Speaker 8: it's real, but it doesn't mean anything really because at

964
00:50:59,613 --> 00:51:02,493
Speaker 8: the heart of it, if people are the same and

965
00:51:02,813 --> 00:51:05,253
Speaker 8: what he wrote reflecting exactly my family too.

966
00:51:05,573 --> 00:51:05,773
Speaker 2: Yeah.

967
00:51:06,533 --> 00:51:09,333
Speaker 4: Finally, Kieren, you're in New Zealand at the moment, shooting,

968
00:51:10,013 --> 00:51:12,573
Speaker 4: shooting east of Eden. We have this terrible habit in

969
00:51:12,613 --> 00:51:15,813
Speaker 4: the New Zealand media of anyone anytime anyone of interest

970
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:18,413
Speaker 4: visits our shows, we're all desperate to ask them the

971
00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 4: same question. It's actually become a bit of a parody.

972
00:51:20,853 --> 00:51:22,533
Speaker 4: But it'll be remiss for me not to ask you

973
00:51:22,733 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 4: what are your impressions of New Zealand? What do you

974
00:51:25,413 --> 00:51:26,533
Speaker 4: think of New Zealand.

975
00:51:28,293 --> 00:51:33,613
Speaker 8: I love it, mate, I love it. It's no I've

976
00:51:33,653 --> 00:51:37,493
Speaker 8: come here for four weeks, came to Auckland to prepare,

977
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:40,893
Speaker 8: then down to Omaru and the Otago Hills. I mean,

978
00:51:41,533 --> 00:51:44,813
Speaker 8: my heart was taken again by another landscape that's so beautiful.

979
00:51:46,133 --> 00:51:51,533
Speaker 8: I got to share a glass of wine with Sam Neil,

980
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,493
Speaker 8: which was a joy for me because of course he

981
00:51:55,653 --> 00:51:58,573
Speaker 8: was born in Oman County, Toronto all those years back then.

982
00:51:58,653 --> 00:52:01,733
Speaker 8: He's such a lovely man and you know, he gave

983
00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,453
Speaker 8: me some advice about where to eat when it came

984
00:52:03,493 --> 00:52:07,493
Speaker 8: to Auckland. And it was also what owners aparts from

985
00:52:07,493 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 8: the landscape. The people are very just the lovely warmth

986
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:14,373
Speaker 8: above them, a natural warmth and I'm not just blowing smoke,

987
00:52:14,493 --> 00:52:17,413
Speaker 8: by the way. What I loved about was the New

988
00:52:17,493 --> 00:52:19,613
Speaker 8: Zealand crew. The people who are doing all the technical

989
00:52:19,613 --> 00:52:24,013
Speaker 8: work around why we do are acting. It's so great.

990
00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:27,493
Speaker 8: They're work in such a calm way that they're not

991
00:52:27,613 --> 00:52:29,893
Speaker 8: running around showing you that they're working. The work is

992
00:52:29,933 --> 00:52:33,333
Speaker 8: getting done, but they're calm about it and I love that.

993
00:52:33,613 --> 00:52:36,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pleased to hear it. We'll all the very

994
00:52:36,093 --> 00:52:37,893
Speaker 4: best for the remainder of your time here. I hope

995
00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:40,733
Speaker 4: you can enjoy some blue cord because I know that

996
00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:43,013
Speaker 4: the water is off the coast of Armado bringing some

997
00:52:43,053 --> 00:52:44,733
Speaker 4: of the best blue card in the world, I think,

998
00:52:44,773 --> 00:52:46,853
Speaker 4: so hopefully you can enjoy that while you're there. And

999
00:52:46,893 --> 00:52:49,533
Speaker 4: congratulations that the Narrow Road to the Deep North is

1000
00:52:50,013 --> 00:52:53,653
Speaker 4: deeply moving and affecting. And thank you so much.

1001
00:52:54,093 --> 00:52:55,933
Speaker 8: Oh great, thanks so luch love me to talk to

1002
00:52:55,973 --> 00:52:57,133
Speaker 8: you you too.

1003
00:52:57,493 --> 00:53:00,373
Speaker 4: That is Kieren Hines. The Narrow Road to the Deep

1004
00:53:00,453 --> 00:53:02,373
Speaker 4: North is his news show. We'll make sure all the

1005
00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:04,733
Speaker 4: details are up on the News Dogs. He'd be website

1006
00:53:04,893 --> 00:53:07,253
Speaker 4: now before eleven o'clock on new Talks ZEDB, We're going

1007
00:53:07,293 --> 00:53:09,813
Speaker 4: to look at what has been a pretty tricky week

1008
00:53:09,893 --> 00:53:11,613
Speaker 4: for a couple of the big tech companies in the

1009
00:53:11,693 --> 00:53:14,333
Speaker 4: US and you're going to think, well, hang on a second,

1010
00:53:14,333 --> 00:53:16,013
Speaker 4: other the big tech companies in the pocket of Donald

1011
00:53:16,053 --> 00:53:18,733
Speaker 4: Trump at the moment. Yeah they are, And yet both

1012
00:53:18,773 --> 00:53:22,253
Speaker 4: Google and Meta are facing really tough scrutiny with different

1013
00:53:22,373 --> 00:53:25,053
Speaker 4: kind of congressional investigations and legal issues. So we're going

1014
00:53:25,093 --> 00:53:28,253
Speaker 4: to explain how they've tried to manage that, what the

1015
00:53:28,293 --> 00:53:31,173
Speaker 4: implications could be, and whether or not actually Google or

1016
00:53:31,213 --> 00:53:34,813
Speaker 4: Meta could be forced to make some massive changes that

1017
00:53:34,973 --> 00:53:38,093
Speaker 4: would drastically change the way that you and I use

1018
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:40,413
Speaker 4: Facebook and Google and that kind of thing sometime in

1019
00:53:40,453 --> 00:53:42,933
Speaker 4: the future. As well as that, we're in the garden

1020
00:53:43,013 --> 00:53:46,653
Speaker 4: spotting fungi with the weather around the country. Next up,

1021
00:53:46,693 --> 00:53:49,253
Speaker 4: your screen time picks for this week. Right now, it's

1022
00:53:49,293 --> 00:53:50,533
Speaker 4: twenty one minutes past ten.

1023
00:53:51,133 --> 00:53:54,573
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

1024
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Speaker 1: Tain and Bpure dot co dot z for high quality supplements.

1025
00:53:58,773 --> 00:54:01,173
Speaker 2: Use talks EDB twenty.

1026
00:54:00,733 --> 00:54:03,493
Speaker 4: Four minutes past ten on Newstalks ZEDB, which means, of

1027
00:54:03,493 --> 00:54:07,693
Speaker 4: course that it is screen time time on Saturday mornings.

1028
00:54:07,693 --> 00:54:09,573
Speaker 4: This time every week we catch up with our screen

1029
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:13,653
Speaker 4: time expert, Tar Reward. She picks three shows to watch

1030
00:54:13,653 --> 00:54:15,533
Speaker 4: your stream at home that she reckons thro're a bit

1031
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:17,653
Speaker 4: of fun. Tara's with us this morning.

1032
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:19,613
Speaker 2: Killed her Yoda, Good morning.

1033
00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,893
Speaker 4: Let's begin with a new show streaming on three now.

1034
00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:24,053
Speaker 4: Tell us about Patients.

1035
00:54:25,213 --> 00:54:27,373
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a new crime drama that's just come

1036
00:54:27,413 --> 00:54:29,613
Speaker 13: to three Now and it's a British remake of a

1037
00:54:29,653 --> 00:54:32,533
Speaker 13: French drama, and in a lot of ways it's your

1038
00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 13: typical police procedural, but there is a bit of a

1039
00:54:35,493 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 13: twist to it, and that one of the two main

1040
00:54:37,373 --> 00:54:40,453
Speaker 13: characters is autistic and her name is Patience. She's a

1041
00:54:40,493 --> 00:54:43,973
Speaker 13: young woman who works as a criminal archivist for the

1042
00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:47,253
Speaker 13: police in York and one day a detective is reviewing

1043
00:54:47,293 --> 00:54:51,813
Speaker 13: files trying to solve a suspicious death and Patience has

1044
00:54:51,853 --> 00:54:54,693
Speaker 13: a talent for puzzles and she suggests to the detective

1045
00:54:54,733 --> 00:54:57,413
Speaker 13: that the case is connected to a series of other deaths,

1046
00:54:57,653 --> 00:55:00,813
Speaker 13: and so the detective brings Patients onto her team to assist,

1047
00:55:00,973 --> 00:55:04,213
Speaker 13: and together they make this unlikely duo. But Patience is

1048
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:07,213
Speaker 13: really skilled at picking up details and no noticing things

1049
00:55:07,213 --> 00:55:09,893
Speaker 13: that other people have missed. So the show is very

1050
00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:12,773
Speaker 13: gentle and slow, and it is similar to other crime

1051
00:55:12,813 --> 00:55:16,053
Speaker 13: dramas and that you've got your frazzle detective who's trying

1052
00:55:16,093 --> 00:55:19,013
Speaker 13: to juggle work and family life, and it covers a

1053
00:55:19,053 --> 00:55:22,293
Speaker 13: different murder every episode, But the character of Patients and

1054
00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:25,653
Speaker 13: the insight into her world as a young neurodiverse woman

1055
00:55:25,733 --> 00:55:27,973
Speaker 13: makes this stand out of it. So if you love

1056
00:55:27,973 --> 00:55:30,133
Speaker 13: a crime drama, I think you'll appreciate this, and it's

1057
00:55:30,133 --> 00:55:33,093
Speaker 13: filmed in York as well, which gives it a very historic,

1058
00:55:33,253 --> 00:55:34,413
Speaker 13: beautiful setting as well.

1059
00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:36,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever see The Good Doctor?

1060
00:55:37,573 --> 00:55:39,533
Speaker 13: I did see The Good Doctor and it sort of

1061
00:55:39,533 --> 00:55:42,573
Speaker 13: reminded me of that as well, a similar premise, but

1062
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:45,213
Speaker 13: in more of sort of a restrained English setting.

1063
00:55:45,413 --> 00:55:47,653
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, no, I can imagine The Good Doctor

1064
00:55:47,933 --> 00:55:52,853
Speaker 4: had a neurodiverse surgeon basically who would inevitably save the

1065
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:56,573
Speaker 4: day when everyone else missed things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so no,

1066
00:55:56,653 --> 00:55:58,653
Speaker 4: that sounds really good though. So that's Patience. That's on

1067
00:55:58,733 --> 00:56:01,933
Speaker 4: three now on Disney Plus. Tell us about The Stolen Girl.

1068
00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:05,693
Speaker 13: Yeah, if you're looking for a thriller that is sleek

1069
00:56:05,813 --> 00:56:08,973
Speaker 13: and grippy and instantly forgettable, this will do the trick.

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Speaker 13: This is The Stolen Girl. It's a British series and

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Speaker 13: it's about a mother who lets her daughter stay over

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Speaker 13: at her new friend's house for a sleepover. And when

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Speaker 13: the mother goes to pick up her daughter the next day,

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Speaker 13: everyone has gone. Her daughter has disappeared, and the family

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Speaker 13: of her daughter's friend has gone as well. And the

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Speaker 13: investigation into the kidnapping uncovers this huge conspiracy and rips

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Speaker 13: open the family's lives. They need to find out who

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Speaker 13: the family really was, who befriended her daughter, and they

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Speaker 13: have to find out if the daughter's disappearance is related

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Speaker 13: to her husband's job as a criminal lawyer. Is it revenge?

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Speaker 13: Is it a grudge? Is it something more sinister? And

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Speaker 13: I think the key to the show is the pace.

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00:56:47,213 --> 00:56:49,933
Speaker 13: It hums along at a cracking pace which stops you

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Speaker 13: thinking about any plot holes or asking too many questions.

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Speaker 13: This is just a really twisty, gripping kind of thriller

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Speaker 13: that you should just enjoy for what it is. It's

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Speaker 13: beautifully made. Everyone lives in these gorgeous, stylish houses. There

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00:57:02,933 --> 00:57:06,093
Speaker 13: are lots of bonkers plot twists and turns, but it's

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Speaker 13: fun and it will keep you hooked for all five

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Speaker 13: wonderfully malodramatic episode. It's kind of the perfect thing just

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Speaker 13: to chill out to on the couch.

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Speaker 4: This, yes, I think a bit of a scapism. Oh

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Speaker 4: it sounds good. Okay. It's the Stolon Girl that's on

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Speaker 4: Disney Plus at last, but not least on Netflix.

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Speaker 13: Diamond Heist and this is a new true crime documentary

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Speaker 13: series that's just come on to Netflix and it is

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Speaker 13: everything that you would expect from a series that's produced

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Speaker 13: by Guy Ritchie. It features a gang of Cockney criminals

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Speaker 13: and is about a real life diamond heist in the

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Speaker 13: Millennium Dome. And this is about what happened in the

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Speaker 13: year two thousand when a gang of criminals tried to

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Speaker 13: steal the Millennial Star Diamond, which was worth two hundred

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Speaker 13: and fifty million pounds and it was part of a

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Speaker 13: de Beers diamond exhibition that was on in the Millennium

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Speaker 13: Dome in London. And the series talks to the criminals

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Speaker 13: who planned the theft, who tried to smash and grab

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Speaker 13: their way into the vault, and it also talked to

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Speaker 13: the police from the Flying Squad who knew something was up,

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Speaker 13: who were watching these guys and waiting for them to

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Speaker 13: do something. And it's one of those stranger than fiction stories.

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Speaker 13: If this wasn't a movie or a TV series, you

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00:58:08,693 --> 00:58:11,333
Speaker 13: just think it was so far fetched. But it's told

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00:58:11,333 --> 00:58:13,853
Speaker 13: in a really entertaining way. It feels like an action movie,

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00:58:14,093 --> 00:58:18,613
Speaker 13: great soundtrack, very slick editing, lots of reenactments and archival footage,

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Speaker 13: and some really intriguing characters. The main villain is a

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00:58:21,253 --> 00:58:24,053
Speaker 13: guy called Lee Wenham who just wanted to do one

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Speaker 13: last job to make his gangster father proud. It's so audacious.

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Speaker 4: Last job.

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Speaker 13: You wouldn't believe it if it wasn't true.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, that sounds great. Okay, cool. That's Diamond Heist.

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Speaker 4: That's on Netflix. That sounds like a bit of me.

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Speaker 4: The Stolen Girl is on Disney Plus, Patience is on

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Speaker 4: three now, and all of those shows will be up

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Speaker 4: on the News talks He'd be website. Thank you so much, Tara.

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Speaker 4: We will see you again next Saturday morning. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for your messages this morning as well. We've been talking

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Speaker 4: colossal squid, don't things the difference is there between a

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Speaker 4: giant squid and a colossal squid, like a colossal squid

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Speaker 4: is its actual name? Anyway? That that amazing footage that

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Speaker 4: the scientists working in the sort of sub antarctic waters

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Speaker 4: managed to manage to record a few weeks ago confirmed

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Speaker 4: as being the first footage of a colossal squid in

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Speaker 4: its natural environment. Jack in two thousand and two, we

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Speaker 4: were fishing eighty miles west off Westport when we came

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Speaker 4: across a giant squid. It had a huge bite in

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Speaker 4: the side of its body was surrounded by fourteen albatrosses

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Speaker 4: pecking at the body, which measured six meters long. The

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Speaker 4: legs hung down over eleven meters according to our sonar.

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Speaker 4: The day before we saw a blue whales swim by,

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Speaker 4: says Allen. That sounds incredible, Allan, So it's funny because

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Speaker 4: I thought, not that I'm a colossal squid expert, but

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Speaker 4: you have because you have that trench off the coast

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Speaker 4: of Cau Colder, that where the where the depth increases

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Speaker 4: ready really quickly. That's kind of an ideal area for wales, right,

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Speaker 4: and that's why you get so many whales spottings off

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Speaker 4: the Ca Colder coast, and presumably where the whales are,

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Speaker 4: the giant squid or the colossal squid are. But here

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Speaker 4: Ellen saying he was fish on the other coast and

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Speaker 4: the Tasman so off the coast of Westport. Now, I

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Speaker 4: mean it's absolutely wild out there as well in the Tasman.

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Speaker 4: So interesting that you came across it over there, Ellen,

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Speaker 4: it sounds like an amazing thing to find.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 4: And just don't you know, I just I don't know,

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Speaker 4: there's something about it that just you know, it's just

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Speaker 4: it's just that incredible reminder of the kind of mysteries

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Speaker 4: that live beneath us. Say, you know, the mystery is

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01:00:27,733 --> 01:00:30,973
Speaker 4: much closer to home than anything intergalactic. Anyway, ninety two

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Speaker 4: ninety two is our text number if you want to

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Speaker 4: send me a message like Allen did this morning. It's

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Speaker 4: just gone ten thirty. You were Jack Tame on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 14: So you see, every week our music reviewer brings us

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Speaker 14: the latest and greatest and fresh music.

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Speaker 4: And she's got a finger on the pulse. She knows

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Speaker 4: what's hot, she knows all the samples, all the references.

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Speaker 4: She recommends us. The best album is the best artist

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Speaker 4: that she can put her ears to. She's across at all.

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Speaker 4: We are the ones here to get school. But oh

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Speaker 4: how the tables have turned. See I remember a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks ago on news Talks, he'db. I asked our

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Speaker 4: music reviewer Estelle Cliffe if she'd ever heard of the

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Speaker 4: band be Root, and would you believe it? She hadn't, so,

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Speaker 4: not wanting to be shown up by me, my goodness,

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Speaker 4: Estelle went away and did a deep dive listen on

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Speaker 4: the band from New Mexico and would you believe this

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Speaker 4: week bea Route actually have a brand new album coming

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Speaker 4: out very timely. Ah, So Beyrout the band have always

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Speaker 4: drawn influence from music from around the world, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's one of the things I really like. They

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Speaker 4: sort of had a real kind of Eastern European vibe.

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Speaker 4: But you know they have influenced is ranging from France

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Speaker 4: to Mexico to Santa Fe, New Mexico and est that

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Speaker 4: was going to join us before ber Day to Day

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Speaker 4: to share everything she has discovered about the excellent music

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Speaker 4: recommendations by yours truly, and she's going to tell us

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Speaker 4: about be Root's brand new album, which is inspired by

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Speaker 4: and written for none other than a Swedish circus for

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Speaker 4: an acrobatic stage show. So there you go. You can't

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Speaker 4: say that we don't bring you some variety, some eclectic choices.

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Speaker 4: On Saturday mornings on News Talks 'DB before eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 4: we'll get your wine picked for this week. Next up,

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Speaker 4: though it has been a big week for some of

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Speaker 4: the tech giants, we'll tell you what it'll mean for

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Speaker 4: your favorite platforms in a few minutes. Right now, it's

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Speaker 4: twenty five to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast, the.

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Speaker 15: Terror war has now become fascal. Of course, the Fontira

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Speaker 15: CEO Miles Hurrell is back with us. Broadly speaking, are

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Speaker 15: you worried?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say worried.

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Speaker 16: Got it kicks on your toes nine. That product goes

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Speaker 16: into international market, so it's not happened in one corner

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Speaker 16: of the world. It's happening the other.

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Speaker 15: We've got some good numbers out of China, but that's

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Speaker 15: pre the shamble. What's your expectation as to what happens

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Speaker 15: to China and how that impacts somebody like Youth?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean I've come.

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Speaker 16: Out of that lull they had a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 16: so I think we threw the worst of that or

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Speaker 16: what'so obviously planning that in the international market now will

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Speaker 16: sort of soften things a little bit, you know, because

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Speaker 16: we've come off a pre low bait. I think we've

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Speaker 16: seen still a pre robust position out of China and

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Speaker 16: the sort of that short to medium tune.

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Speaker 15: Back Tuesday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast of

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Speaker 15: the Rain drove the last news talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two to eleven non newstalk zv you with Jack

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Speaker 4: Tame And it's been a tough week. If it is

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Speaker 4: a really a tough week, I don't know that we

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Speaker 4: can say that for the likes of Google and Meta,

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Speaker 4: but at the very least, both of those tech companies

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Speaker 4: have been raked over the coals in the US. Tech

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Speaker 4: commentator Oscar Howe is here with the details this morning.

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Speaker 11: Hey Oscar, Hey Jack, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great to be chatting with you. Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 4: So tell us first of all about Google. Google has

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Speaker 4: been accused of running an illegal monopoly.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So Google has just lost quite a lot of anticross

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Speaker 10: case in the United States, a federal judgment Virginia or

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Speaker 10: that was backed up by a number of judges across

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Speaker 10: the country rule that had maintained an illegal monopoly in

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Speaker 10: the online advertising market. And it seems like google strategy

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Speaker 10: was to insulate the entire online advertising process to squash competition.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, So what's it going to mean now that

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Speaker 4: they've lost it?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it seems like the US Justice Department

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Speaker 10: are kind of weighing up where to push things there's

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Speaker 10: the talk of Google being made to spin off Google Chrome,

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Speaker 10: it's browser, and then yeah, hopefully kind of create a

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Speaker 10: bit more space in the market for alternative advertisers to

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Speaker 10: pop up, which I mean, as we all know, more

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Speaker 10: competition can mean more competitive alternatives for small people looking

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Speaker 10: to a well, people looking to advertise.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fascinating when you think about how integrated all

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Speaker 4: of those Google services are. The things that kind of

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Speaker 4: make them very convenient at times from a consumer's perspective.

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Speaker 4: Also means that they absolutely dominant the digital ad you know,

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Speaker 4: did digital ad market or much of the digital ad market.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the data that they can offer advertisers,

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Speaker 4: you know, far exceeds anything that other advertisers can do.

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Speaker 4: But obviously another big digital player in the advertising market

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Speaker 4: is Meta, the owner of Facebook, and Facebook's been in

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Speaker 4: front of the FTC for antitrust behavior.

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Speaker 11: Tell us about that, Yeah, fuddly enough, similar story.

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Speaker 10: It seems as though in the past, probably before it

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Speaker 10: was called Meta, it was just no known as Facebook.

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Speaker 10: Their previous growth strategy was to buy or bearing and

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Speaker 10: that's a direct quote competitors in the social media industry,

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Speaker 10: which may have led to them acquiring platforms people know,

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Speaker 10: such as Instagram and WhatsApp, And yeah, basically the more

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Speaker 10: real estate they to buy up in that space, the

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Speaker 10: less opportunities there were, the competitives to grow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. I remember when you know they purchased

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Speaker 4: both of those operations. What's happened Instagram And I remember

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Speaker 4: at the time everyone was saying, oh my gosh, they're

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Speaker 4: paying way too much money for this, way too much money.

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Speaker 4: But I think over time, given how popular Instagram and

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Speaker 4: WhatsApp have become, you know, Facebook strategy, at least from

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Speaker 4: a market dominance kind of perspective, has certainly played out.

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Speaker 4: You know, it has proved to be pretty good. But

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Speaker 4: whether or not it's actually anti trust behave for I suppose,

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Speaker 4: there's another question. It's also been revealed this week Oscar

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Speaker 4: that Steam has made teens of millions of dollars in

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Speaker 4: gaming loot crates. For anyone who doesn't know what a

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Speaker 4: gaming loot crate actually is, can you explain this to us?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so is effectively a form of online gambler in

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01:06:39,813 --> 01:06:42,413
Speaker 10: its purest form. So this may sound a little bit

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01:06:42,453 --> 01:06:45,813
Speaker 10: silly to people who aren't kind of in the gaming space,

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01:06:45,853 --> 01:06:50,533
Speaker 10: but effectively you can buy skins or aesthetic items for

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01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:54,013
Speaker 10: your character in a video game, and Steam is one

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01:06:54,053 --> 01:06:56,133
Speaker 10: of the largest publishers in the world and also the

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01:06:56,253 --> 01:07:00,573
Speaker 10: largest online gaming games marketplace. Yeah, for you, basically, you

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01:07:00,653 --> 01:07:03,013
Speaker 10: want to juge up your character a little bit, and

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01:07:03,173 --> 01:07:04,973
Speaker 10: one of the mechanisms by which you can do that

1289
01:07:05,093 --> 01:07:09,093
Speaker 10: is you effectively role in these kind of roulette style

1290
01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:12,253
Speaker 10: cases where you know you might spend three or four dollars,

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01:07:12,253 --> 01:07:15,213
Speaker 10: you spin the wheel and you get a certain skin,

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01:07:15,253 --> 01:07:17,653
Speaker 10: and obviously some are more desirable than others, and that's

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Speaker 10: the kind of thing that can create gambling addictions, especially

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01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:24,453
Speaker 10: for young people, because especially in a space like gaming,

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01:07:25,053 --> 01:07:27,933
Speaker 10: you know, everything's bright, it's colorful, as part of the

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01:07:28,013 --> 01:07:31,173
Speaker 10: kind of pop cultures like guys, it's really attractive and

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Speaker 10: seeing like you said, has made eighty two million dollars

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Speaker 10: in March. That's USD by the way, a lot of

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Speaker 10: them just one of their video games. So yeah, I

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01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:42,853
Speaker 10: think it'd be a good time to take a look

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01:07:42,853 --> 01:07:45,493
Speaker 10: at that and see whether that's creating harmful behavior, whether

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01:07:45,533 --> 01:07:48,773
Speaker 10: that's harmful behavior, especially towards New Zealand young people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing. That's a vast amount of money. So

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01:07:51,893 --> 01:07:54,133
Speaker 4: basically it's almost like a lucky debt bay. So if

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01:07:54,173 --> 01:07:56,653
Speaker 4: you're really into gaming, you can give some money and

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01:07:56,693 --> 01:07:59,373
Speaker 4: it kind of is, you know, it's like a roulette

1307
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:01,493
Speaker 4: or you know, like a pokey or something. Basically you

1308
01:08:01,493 --> 01:08:03,253
Speaker 4: give some money and then hope that you get a

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01:08:03,293 --> 01:08:05,813
Speaker 4: skin that you like, but there's no guarantee that you're

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01:08:05,813 --> 01:08:09,173
Speaker 4: going to get there. And people people say, oh, I

1311
01:08:09,173 --> 01:08:10,613
Speaker 4: didn't get it this time. I'll just pay a bit more.

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01:08:10,653 --> 01:08:11,893
Speaker 4: I'll just pay a bit more. I'll just pay a

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01:08:11,893 --> 01:08:14,013
Speaker 4: bit more. It's going to come through sometime soon and

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01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:16,973
Speaker 4: you can see how comparable it is to the more

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01:08:16,973 --> 01:08:18,933
Speaker 4: traditional forms of gambling.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I think probably the key problem with it

1317
01:08:22,933 --> 01:08:25,973
Speaker 10: is that because it's such a new frontier, it's nearly

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Speaker 10: entirely unregulated. Yeah, in MW Zealand going across the world, right,

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Speaker 10: and I mean, I think especially as gaming kind of

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01:08:31,813 --> 01:08:34,213
Speaker 10: grows to be I mean, it already is the largest

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01:08:34,213 --> 01:08:37,053
Speaker 10: form of entertainment in the world, you know, by the

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01:08:37,053 --> 01:08:38,773
Speaker 10: amount of money it raises every year. But I think

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01:08:38,773 --> 01:08:42,013
Speaker 10: it's it's time that maybe regulators begin to look at

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01:08:42,053 --> 01:08:46,573
Speaker 10: how gambling and gaming can be brought to heal.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, yeah, all very good. Hey, thanks so much

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Speaker 4: for your time, Oscar and your expertise. That's tech commentator Oscar.

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01:08:52,853 --> 01:08:55,973
Speaker 4: How in a couple of minutes, Simelier Cameron Douglas gives

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Speaker 4: us his Easter weekend pick right now, it's sixteen minutes

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Speaker 4: to eleven.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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01:09:02,293 --> 01:09:05,413
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and be

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Speaker 1: pewured on for high quality supplements used Talks.

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Speaker 4: MB fourteen two eleven on newstorg Zby it's wine time

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Speaker 4: and Master Samalier Cameron Douglas is here this morning.

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Speaker 6: Hey Cameron, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 10: Nice to be back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nice to be speaking with you and your pick

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Speaker 4: throughout Easter holiday weekend is an Esk Valley Mulbek Cabinet

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01:09:26,413 --> 01:09:29,693
Speaker 4: Sevignon Merlow twenty twenty two is the vintage from Hawks

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01:09:29,733 --> 01:09:32,373
Speaker 4: Bay retails for twenty four to ninety nine. So tell

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Speaker 4: us about the wine.

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01:09:34,173 --> 01:09:37,613
Speaker 10: Well, this comes from part of Hawk's Bay that has

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01:09:37,653 --> 01:09:41,733
Speaker 10: what's called a GI, a geographical indicator, and that means

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01:09:41,773 --> 01:09:46,133
Speaker 10: that the boundary lines and the soil type are particularly special.

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01:09:46,293 --> 01:09:50,533
Speaker 17: So when with an Esque Valley cabinet Murlow planted on this.

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01:09:51,613 --> 01:09:55,213
Speaker 10: It is a very special wine because of just that

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01:09:55,373 --> 01:09:59,133
Speaker 10: color and concentration that it has, and people who like

1348
01:09:59,333 --> 01:10:03,453
Speaker 10: red wine will sort of get right into that big

1349
01:10:03,733 --> 01:10:09,093
Speaker 10: dark red berry fruits and BlackBerry bouquet. But on the palette,

1350
01:10:09,133 --> 01:10:10,573
Speaker 10: this is what makes the wine special.

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01:10:10,613 --> 01:10:11,453
Speaker 17: It has all of this.

1352
01:10:11,693 --> 01:10:14,253
Speaker 10: Extra sort of secondary characters.

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01:10:13,813 --> 01:10:18,373
Speaker 17: Like bitter chocolate and cacao and baking spices. And it's

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01:10:18,413 --> 01:10:21,213
Speaker 17: an absolute bargain because it comes from a place that

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01:10:22,693 --> 01:10:26,733
Speaker 17: has garnered respect from a lot of veneurons from around

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01:10:26,773 --> 01:10:30,573
Speaker 17: the world. It's got complexity and depths, not too much tannin,

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01:10:30,653 --> 01:10:32,693
Speaker 17: and lots of bite and freshness.

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01:10:32,853 --> 01:10:33,613
Speaker 10: It's really good.

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01:10:33,933 --> 01:10:37,413
Speaker 4: That sounds fantastic, Okay. Twenty twenty two was a pretty

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01:10:37,413 --> 01:10:39,533
Speaker 4: good year for wine from hawks Bay as well.

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Speaker 17: A yeah, it comes on the back of a elevant

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01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:47,413
Speaker 17: in twenty twenty one, and this nature has a way

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01:10:47,453 --> 01:10:51,853
Speaker 17: of holding on to the previous vintage when it comes

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01:10:51,893 --> 01:10:55,493
Speaker 17: to the wine world. And luckily for a place like

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Speaker 17: Hawk's Bay that got hammered in twenty three, twenty twenty

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01:10:58,133 --> 01:11:00,933
Speaker 17: two ended up being a rather special year.

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01:11:01,453 --> 01:11:02,653
Speaker 10: Warm and dry.

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01:11:03,413 --> 01:11:06,373
Speaker 17: In fact, they had color change in grapes, the early

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01:11:06,613 --> 01:11:10,133
Speaker 17: est in thirty years in twenty twenty two. And what

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01:11:10,173 --> 01:11:15,013
Speaker 17: that meant was a long growing ripening season. He's the

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01:11:15,013 --> 01:11:16,333
Speaker 17: concentration of the swine.

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Speaker 4: Oh so, pers So what would you match this with?

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01:11:18,613 --> 01:11:20,893
Speaker 8: Do you reckon well? I?

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01:11:21,653 --> 01:11:25,493
Speaker 17: In terms of food, you know, this time of year,

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01:11:25,933 --> 01:11:29,973
Speaker 17: we're getting you know, well into that autumn deep autumn.

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01:11:29,573 --> 01:11:32,053
Speaker 11: Winter type fair.

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01:11:32,253 --> 01:11:37,093
Speaker 17: So honestly, if you're having something like a roast leg

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01:11:37,213 --> 01:11:41,013
Speaker 17: of land with lots of rosemary and roast potatoes or

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01:11:41,213 --> 01:11:44,413
Speaker 17: any red meat that's you know, steak, like, keep it

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01:11:44,493 --> 01:11:48,933
Speaker 17: in that rear to medium cooking windows so you've got

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Speaker 17: a little bit more protein. And what that means for

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01:11:51,733 --> 01:12:01,493
Speaker 17: a wine like this is that those those protein molecules

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01:12:01,533 --> 01:12:04,413
Speaker 17: and the juice and the meat wrapped themselves.

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Speaker 10: Around the tannons and the red wine. So it makes

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01:12:06,053 --> 01:12:10,093
Speaker 10: a wine soft, smooth, and more supple. And this is

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Speaker 10: you know, it's that juicy deliciousness that people look for

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01:12:14,053 --> 01:12:16,173
Speaker 10: with red red meat and red wine pairing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh sounds so good, fantastic, Hey, thank you so much, Cameron.

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Speaker 4: So Cameron's picked for us this week and Esk Valley

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01:12:22,013 --> 01:12:26,613
Speaker 4: Melbock Kevin you seven yard Merlow twenty twenty two from

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Speaker 4: Hawk's Bay and we'll have all the details up on

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Speaker 4: the news talks. He'd be website.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with still sharp free autumn upgrades on Still's best sellers.

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Speaker 4: Rude time Past is our man in the garden. He's

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Speaker 4: with us this morning, calder.

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Speaker 18: Rude culer Jack. I loved your intro mate. The way

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01:12:45,533 --> 01:12:49,853
Speaker 18: we are looking after the planets. Oh, you know, all

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Speaker 18: that sort of stuff, the species that we are, you know,

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01:12:53,413 --> 01:12:54,813
Speaker 18: it's just unbelievable.

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01:12:55,653 --> 01:12:55,853
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:12:56,013 --> 01:12:59,093
Speaker 18: I sometimes thought if all the species on the planet

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01:12:59,133 --> 01:13:04,053
Speaker 18: could talk or think or communicate, how would they look

1404
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,413
Speaker 18: at Homo sapiens.

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01:13:08,213 --> 01:13:08,733
Speaker 2: Are we are?

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01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:11,373
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. That's the thing that would be

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01:13:11,493 --> 01:13:14,773
Speaker 4: very complimentary somehow. Yeah, there you go.

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01:13:14,573 --> 01:13:17,333
Speaker 2: So this this is so so, this is the whole thing.

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Speaker 18: I quite often talk for kids and peaks about it,

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01:13:19,693 --> 01:13:22,533
Speaker 18: about nature literacy and all that stuff, because if you

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01:13:22,653 --> 01:13:25,933
Speaker 18: really study the creatures. Now we're going to be talking

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01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:28,253
Speaker 18: a little bit about fungy today, but anyway, if you

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01:13:28,373 --> 01:13:35,013
Speaker 18: study fungi or bugs or whatever, they run on current sunlight,

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01:13:35,173 --> 01:13:40,533
Speaker 18: not fossil sunlight, and every and everything that they have

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01:13:40,733 --> 01:13:41,573
Speaker 18: is recycled.

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01:13:42,213 --> 01:13:42,413
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:13:42,893 --> 01:13:45,013
Speaker 4: See that's a I mean, that seems like that's actually

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01:13:45,013 --> 01:13:49,773
Speaker 4: a very good point. Yes, yeah, no one's using and.

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01:13:50,653 --> 01:13:54,293
Speaker 2: They work with you exactly.

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Speaker 18: And also they work with an ecological system of cooperation,

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01:13:58,373 --> 01:14:03,293
Speaker 18: not competition like all these bloody people in in in

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01:14:03,813 --> 01:14:07,853
Speaker 18: never mind. They operate on diversity too, and they use

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01:14:08,053 --> 01:14:10,093
Speaker 18: local expertise.

1424
01:14:10,933 --> 01:14:14,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right, no, yeah, I can see in

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01:14:14,133 --> 01:14:15,893
Speaker 4: the end, sorry.

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01:14:15,733 --> 01:14:18,693
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, and in the end, of course they use

1427
01:14:18,853 --> 01:14:23,173
Speaker 18: life friendly chemistry, which I think is nice.

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01:14:23,413 --> 01:14:25,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, this is why we love you. It's

1429
01:14:25,933 --> 01:14:28,453
Speaker 4: not just going and we give the philosophy we get

1430
01:14:28,453 --> 01:14:31,893
Speaker 4: sort of we're straying into political areas, which I love

1431
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:34,053
Speaker 4: as well, so I'm happy to Yeah, we need.

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01:14:34,093 --> 01:14:36,093
Speaker 18: But we need to really think about the check, you

1433
01:14:36,213 --> 01:14:38,813
Speaker 18: know exactly what I mean. And seeing you're a dad now,

1434
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:43,733
Speaker 18: that is far more prevalent for you right now, you know,

1435
01:14:43,853 --> 01:14:47,333
Speaker 18: with with with your with your son and as anyway, So.

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01:14:47,853 --> 01:14:50,133
Speaker 4: In our place, it's been very dry. The sum has

1437
01:14:50,133 --> 01:14:51,933
Speaker 4: been very dry, but then of course we've obviously had

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01:14:51,973 --> 01:14:53,493
Speaker 4: a lot of rain in the last couple of weeks now,

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01:14:53,693 --> 01:14:58,093
Speaker 4: and I have four dinner plate sized mushrooms growing in

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01:14:58,133 --> 01:15:01,093
Speaker 4: my in the middle of my lawn. They're white, they're

1441
01:15:01,133 --> 01:15:03,293
Speaker 4: just like dinner plates. Very interesting, and you've got a

1442
01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:05,373
Speaker 4: whole range that might be growing around the place at

1443
01:15:05,413 --> 01:15:05,773
Speaker 4: the moment.

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01:15:06,773 --> 01:15:07,693
Speaker 2: Yes, there is right.

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01:15:07,973 --> 01:15:11,413
Speaker 18: You know, this is actually a fantastic year for mushrooms.

1446
01:15:11,413 --> 01:15:14,453
Speaker 18: I've noticed that over the last few weeks. But last

1447
01:15:14,453 --> 01:15:17,853
Speaker 18: week I saw in Amanita muscaria, which is that famous

1448
01:15:18,013 --> 01:15:21,093
Speaker 18: red mushroom with the white dots. You know, quite a

1449
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:24,013
Speaker 18: large thing to see it in the lawns, and I thought,

1450
01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:27,973
Speaker 18: ships I haven't seen that since well somewhere for a

1451
01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:30,373
Speaker 18: long time, and why is it growing in my garden?

1452
01:15:30,413 --> 01:15:33,653
Speaker 18: And then I looked up and I saw the birch tree,

1453
01:15:33,973 --> 01:15:37,173
Speaker 18: and I thought, I never I know I had a

1454
01:15:37,213 --> 01:15:40,413
Speaker 18: bird tree, and I know they're related, but this is

1455
01:15:40,453 --> 01:15:43,773
Speaker 18: how you get these little so there you go. This

1456
01:15:43,813 --> 01:15:46,933
Speaker 18: is why that creature is there, That that wonderful red

1457
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:51,133
Speaker 18: thing is related to working with beach and some other

1458
01:15:51,173 --> 01:15:57,293
Speaker 18: bllets and pieces. It's it's a microizal fungus again that

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01:15:57,573 --> 01:16:01,733
Speaker 18: works with other fungi and other trees, with the birch,

1460
01:16:01,893 --> 01:16:04,933
Speaker 18: the beach, the pine and all that sort of stuff.

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01:16:05,573 --> 01:16:07,853
Speaker 18: That's exactly what what you say. So that's why I

1462
01:16:07,853 --> 01:16:10,853
Speaker 18: thought it fitted nicely. And then there are a heck

1463
01:16:10,893 --> 01:16:12,613
Speaker 18: of a lot of these things, and you probably see

1464
01:16:12,653 --> 01:16:14,853
Speaker 18: them on the on the on the website of a

1465
01:16:14,893 --> 01:16:18,213
Speaker 18: whole lot of different creatures that I call creatures almost

1466
01:16:18,253 --> 01:16:22,053
Speaker 18: They are funky, but they do a fabulous job of

1467
01:16:22,613 --> 01:16:30,333
Speaker 18: recycling forests with leaves, branches, everything that's so beautiful. There's

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01:16:30,333 --> 01:16:32,253
Speaker 18: a little picture there of what they what they what

1469
01:16:32,333 --> 01:16:34,933
Speaker 18: we call the what you call it the bird's nest

1470
01:16:34,933 --> 01:16:37,173
Speaker 18: fungus looks like a little bird's nest, sits on a

1471
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:41,213
Speaker 18: branch and has little spores in it that look almost

1472
01:16:41,253 --> 01:16:44,653
Speaker 18: like coins. But it's tiny, tiny, it's beautiful.

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01:16:45,493 --> 01:16:51,453
Speaker 4: How big is that? How big is the bird's nest

1474
01:16:51,573 --> 01:16:57,213
Speaker 4: and a half? Yeah? Right, okay, nothing, they're tiny, right, yeah,

1475
01:16:56,693 --> 01:17:01,333
Speaker 4: those fungus, those ones, yeah, yeah.

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01:17:01,013 --> 01:17:03,613
Speaker 18: I always have to tell kids, you know, they look

1477
01:17:03,733 --> 01:17:07,533
Speaker 18: like an ear, they feel like an ear, they smell

1478
01:17:07,613 --> 01:17:10,333
Speaker 18: like an ear, and they taste like an ear.

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01:17:10,373 --> 01:17:11,053
Speaker 8: And they'll get.

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01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:12,853
Speaker 6: Hang on.

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01:17:13,293 --> 01:17:16,813
Speaker 18: In the eighteen hundreds, the Chu Chung brothers in Taranaki

1482
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:20,653
Speaker 18: were the first people to send container loads of these

1483
01:17:20,973 --> 01:17:26,693
Speaker 18: ear fungi to China. That was our very first material

1484
01:17:26,733 --> 01:17:30,933
Speaker 18: that we exported, is the root overseas? Yes it is.

1485
01:17:31,053 --> 01:17:34,493
Speaker 4: I had no idea that in the eighteen hundreds, yeah,

1486
01:17:34,533 --> 01:17:37,013
Speaker 4: early eighteen hundreds. Okay, there you go.

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01:17:37,773 --> 01:17:38,333
Speaker 19: Oh, there you are.

1488
01:17:38,413 --> 01:17:40,813
Speaker 18: And so you've got fuggie that that bugger your plants,

1489
01:17:40,853 --> 01:17:42,533
Speaker 18: I know, and your fruits and all this sort of stuff.

1490
01:17:42,533 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 18: But here's the nice one, the last one, the collaborative one,

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01:17:45,573 --> 01:17:49,413
Speaker 18: and it is the stinkhorn fungus with brown material in

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Speaker 18: that little red stinhorn which is attracts the flies and

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Speaker 18: they slover it up and take the spores to all

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Speaker 18: over the forest.

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Speaker 4: Thank you RD Photos on the website. News is next

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Speaker 4: on news Dogs.

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Speaker 1: He'd be Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation

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Speaker 1: going through the weekend with bpure dot cot in here

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Speaker 4: B good morning. If you're just standing on the radio

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Speaker 4: this morning, Jack Tame with you this Saturday through to midday.

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Speaker 4: I think the best way to describe the kind of

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01:18:47,373 --> 01:18:50,573
Speaker 4: storm of the last few days, or the stormy weather

1505
01:18:50,613 --> 01:18:52,373
Speaker 4: of the last few days, or the effects of the

1506
01:18:52,373 --> 01:18:54,413
Speaker 4: stormy weather of the last few days, is that it's

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01:18:54,653 --> 01:18:57,893
Speaker 4: very isolated and regional. So there are some areas that

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01:18:57,933 --> 01:19:00,973
Speaker 4: have seemed like they've been hit quite seriously and have

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01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:03,253
Speaker 4: suffered quite a bit of damage. Whether it's in Corimandal

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01:19:03,293 --> 01:19:05,733
Speaker 4: in Northland, parts of Auckland as well, and then other

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Speaker 4: areas relatively nearby that are just totally fine. It's one

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01:19:08,813 --> 01:19:11,173
Speaker 4: of those kind of weird situations, right. I've just been

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01:19:11,213 --> 01:19:14,013
Speaker 4: looking at some of the social media pictures from a

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Speaker 4: friend of mine in Auckland who has suffered quite serious

1515
01:19:18,573 --> 01:19:21,693
Speaker 4: damage to her property overnight and so she didn't notice anything,

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Speaker 4: slept through the entire storm, came downstairs in the morning

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Speaker 4: and discovered water all throughout the lounge, all throughout the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: It looks like the water has been about thirty centimeters

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Speaker 4: high in some parts of her house, like whole couches

1520
01:19:33,973 --> 01:19:37,853
Speaker 4: have floated across the room. She's got drawers in the

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01:19:37,933 --> 01:19:41,613
Speaker 4: kitchen that are completely full of water now and somehow

1522
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Speaker 4: managed to sleep through most of the storm, which is

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Speaker 4: remarkable given the latest numbers we have that there were

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Speaker 4: more than seven hundred and fifty lightning strikes in the

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Speaker 4: nine last night, fifty miles of rains of five centimeters

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Speaker 4: of rain fell in about five hours. There were more

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Speaker 4: than two hundred callouts for emergency services, and there's some

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Speaker 4: concern amongst city councilors and some leaders in the city

1529
01:20:02,053 --> 01:20:04,933
Speaker 4: that actually warnings weren't given fast enough in Auckland, even

1530
01:20:04,933 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 4: though we've all had warnings over the last few days

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01:20:07,173 --> 01:20:10,413
Speaker 4: as x tropical Cyclone tam has made its way around

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Speaker 4: the country. The warnings were for a few days ago.

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01:20:14,093 --> 01:20:17,413
Speaker 4: The warnings for the actual lightning and electrical storms last

1534
01:20:17,493 --> 01:20:21,053
Speaker 4: night in the heavy rainfall didn't really kick off until

1535
01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:23,093
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people in our biggest city

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01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:26,053
Speaker 4: were already experiencing those storms. So anyway, there's no doubt

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01:20:26,373 --> 01:20:28,893
Speaker 4: going to be a bit more of an investigation, a

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01:20:28,893 --> 01:20:31,453
Speaker 4: few more questions about the timing of those warnings and

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01:20:31,453 --> 01:20:34,693
Speaker 4: whether or not more could have been done to prepare people. Hopefully, though,

1540
01:20:34,733 --> 01:20:37,093
Speaker 4: wherever you're waking up this morning, the damage isn't too

1541
01:20:37,133 --> 01:20:40,453
Speaker 4: bad and you're managed to to keep your feet relatively

1542
01:20:40,493 --> 01:20:43,493
Speaker 4: dry for the rest of this Easter weekend. Before midday,

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01:20:43,693 --> 01:20:45,213
Speaker 4: we're going to share with you your book picks for

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01:20:45,253 --> 01:20:46,773
Speaker 4: this week. We've got a brand new book from David

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Speaker 4: Beldharci which sounds fantastic, so I'm going to give you

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01:20:49,013 --> 01:20:50,973
Speaker 4: all the details on that. Plus we're going to share

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01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:54,053
Speaker 4: some music from Beyrout Bay Route would have to be

1548
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Speaker 4: one of my all time favorite bands. They've got a

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01:20:57,453 --> 01:21:01,813
Speaker 4: really eclctic kind of sound. They get inspiration from all

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01:21:01,853 --> 01:21:04,213
Speaker 4: sorts of kind of different areas, like they've got a

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01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:08,253
Speaker 4: kind of real Eastern European blend. I mean there's a

1552
01:21:08,333 --> 01:21:11,053
Speaker 4: hint in the name of the group, I suppose. So anyway,

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Speaker 4: they've got a brand new album. We're going to play

1554
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Speaker 4: you some of that before twelve o'clock and you can

1555
01:21:14,013 --> 01:21:15,693
Speaker 4: make up your own mind. CEF, I'm on to a

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Speaker 4: winner or otherwise very shortly right now though it is

1557
01:21:19,573 --> 01:21:24,053
Speaker 4: ten minutes fast eleven Jack Team and our sustainability commentator

1558
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:27,573
Speaker 4: Kate Hall is with us this morning. Calder Kate, what

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01:21:27,733 --> 01:21:30,613
Speaker 4: am I? We are just coming up to, well, the

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01:21:30,733 --> 01:21:33,413
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks of April and next month, I

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01:21:33,573 --> 01:21:37,493
Speaker 4: know is food appreciation month. I feel like every month

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01:21:37,613 --> 01:21:41,893
Speaker 4: is food appreciation in my household. But I'm being facetious.

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01:21:41,893 --> 01:21:43,573
Speaker 4: I'm putting a twist on it that isn't supposed to

1564
01:21:43,613 --> 01:21:47,333
Speaker 4: be there. Really, it's an opportunity to kind of consider

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01:21:47,373 --> 01:21:52,693
Speaker 4: the ways in which we don't use food scraps as

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01:21:52,733 --> 01:21:54,773
Speaker 4: well as they could be used. Right, we waste so

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01:21:55,213 --> 01:21:58,293
Speaker 4: much food in New Zealand, and you know, being fortunate

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01:21:58,373 --> 01:22:00,853
Speaker 4: to me in a country with real abundance on that front.

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01:22:00,933 --> 01:22:03,133
Speaker 4: It's such a shame it is.

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Speaker 20: I mean, I agree every day every month we should

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01:22:07,413 --> 01:22:12,213
Speaker 20: be celebrate celebrate food, but we just I think we're

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Speaker 20: so blind to how much food we waste because it's

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01:22:15,813 --> 01:22:18,093
Speaker 20: kind of just become the norm. But here's some like

1574
01:22:18,253 --> 01:22:20,813
Speaker 20: figures that always just blow me away every time I

1575
01:22:20,893 --> 01:22:24,813
Speaker 20: read them. Were in New Zealand, homes waste over one

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01:22:24,973 --> 01:22:29,973
Speaker 20: hundred and fifty seven thousand tons of edible food every year.

1577
01:22:30,053 --> 01:22:34,773
Speaker 20: So that's not even like you know, your citrus peels

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01:22:34,853 --> 01:22:35,413
Speaker 20: or eggs night.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say like let's or eat.

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01:22:37,693 --> 01:22:40,853
Speaker 20: Those, but maybe such as pells different recipes with that.

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01:22:40,933 --> 01:22:43,573
Speaker 20: But you know, that's edible food that's enough to feed

1582
01:22:43,653 --> 01:22:46,173
Speaker 20: everyone in Dunedin for almost three years.

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01:22:46,973 --> 01:22:51,973
Speaker 4: That's crazy, and that's like, yeah, yeah.

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01:22:51,813 --> 01:22:54,173
Speaker 20: It's very frustrating, and that's I mean, we can talk

1585
01:22:54,213 --> 01:22:57,813
Speaker 20: about environmentally how just ridiculous it is that we've made

1586
01:22:57,853 --> 01:23:00,973
Speaker 20: this food, grown it, produced it amazing, it's been transported

1587
01:23:00,973 --> 01:23:03,533
Speaker 20: to shelves, we take it home, we forget about it.

1588
01:23:03,933 --> 01:23:07,973
Speaker 20: The bread goes moldy, the you know, we don't get leftovers,

1589
01:23:08,013 --> 01:23:10,453
Speaker 20: we go get take out instead. But it's also a

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01:23:10,573 --> 01:23:12,893
Speaker 20: cost thing as well. I think, yeah, this is one

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01:23:12,893 --> 01:23:16,253
Speaker 20: of the things that you know, some environmental kind of

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01:23:16,333 --> 01:23:18,733
Speaker 20: actions do take a bit of going out of our

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01:23:18,773 --> 01:23:21,773
Speaker 20: way or maybe spending some more upfront money to do that.

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01:23:21,933 --> 01:23:26,093
Speaker 20: But this, like currently food waste is costing every key

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01:23:26,293 --> 01:23:30,293
Speaker 20: household on average three and twenty six dollars a year.

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01:23:30,813 --> 01:23:34,533
Speaker 4: So if we were focusing more on that, yeah, yeah,

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01:23:35,053 --> 01:23:36,693
Speaker 4: I mean there's always a good option. It's just focusing

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01:23:36,733 --> 01:23:38,333
Speaker 4: on the money. Even for people who are like, you know,

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01:23:38,853 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 4: think that you know, you and I are a bit

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01:23:40,373 --> 01:23:43,493
Speaker 4: woffy when we're having these conversations. No, but I just

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01:23:43,533 --> 01:23:46,293
Speaker 4: focus on the money. Then, like you could save one

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01:23:46,373 --> 01:23:49,053
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars on average. I mean that is there

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01:23:49,133 --> 01:23:50,133
Speaker 4: is a huge sum.

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01:23:51,373 --> 01:23:53,733
Speaker 20: People don't really believe me when I say it, but

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01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:55,973
Speaker 20: if you add it all up, you know, half a

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01:23:56,173 --> 01:23:59,733
Speaker 20: loaf like that letters you forgot about, like you know,

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01:23:59,773 --> 01:24:03,173
Speaker 20: if people go, oh, that's not me, like, you'd be surprised.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So in our house, this is one of the reasons

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01:24:06,453 --> 01:24:10,293
Speaker 4: that I do like a food delivery service, just because

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01:24:10,333 --> 01:24:12,653
Speaker 4: I really hate waste and I don't want to like

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01:24:12,773 --> 01:24:15,013
Speaker 4: sometimes plans change and during the week, and you know,

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01:24:15,173 --> 01:24:16,813
Speaker 4: our house is kind of chareoic at the best of times,

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01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:18,173
Speaker 4: and so that's one of the reasons I like having

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01:24:18,173 --> 01:24:20,613
Speaker 4: a food delivery services because you just kind of know, like,

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01:24:20,773 --> 01:24:23,533
Speaker 4: we've got we've got food for us for this number

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01:24:23,573 --> 01:24:26,493
Speaker 4: of meals and this number of lunches, and that's it.

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01:24:26,573 --> 01:24:29,573
Speaker 4: We're not going to have excess. But obviously there are

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01:24:29,613 --> 01:24:33,213
Speaker 4: still things like vgps, steams and cores, old bananas, stuff

1620
01:24:33,293 --> 01:24:35,173
Speaker 4: like that that I think all of us ended up

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01:24:35,213 --> 01:24:37,013
Speaker 4: with from time to time. So what are your tips

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01:24:37,053 --> 01:24:38,253
Speaker 4: on dealing with those sorts of things?

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01:24:39,413 --> 01:24:39,773
Speaker 8: Totally?

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01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:42,733
Speaker 20: So, I think, just like you said, there are main

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01:24:42,813 --> 01:24:45,293
Speaker 20: things like having a meal plan, in a shopping list,

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01:24:45,653 --> 01:24:47,853
Speaker 20: and actually knowing what's in your fridge. So if you

1627
01:24:47,933 --> 01:24:51,093
Speaker 20: have leftovers, actually labeling it, labeling the date that it

1628
01:24:51,253 --> 01:24:54,173
Speaker 20: was made, putting that in the fridge, having like a

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01:24:54,413 --> 01:24:56,973
Speaker 20: bin in your fridge that phays eat me first. So

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01:24:57,093 --> 01:25:00,453
Speaker 20: if you're in a household where you know there's multiple people,

1631
01:25:00,853 --> 01:25:03,173
Speaker 20: how do people know what to use and they're just

1632
01:25:03,253 --> 01:25:05,853
Speaker 20: going to grab something that they want to eat or

1633
01:25:05,853 --> 01:25:07,173
Speaker 20: they're going to go, oh, it's not here, I'm going

1634
01:25:07,213 --> 01:25:09,253
Speaker 20: to go out and buy it. So having a bin

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01:25:09,333 --> 01:25:12,413
Speaker 20: that says eat me first, and with veggie peels and

1636
01:25:12,453 --> 01:25:15,253
Speaker 20: stems and stuff instead of buying stock. Again, this is

1637
01:25:15,293 --> 01:25:19,773
Speaker 20: a great cost hack. So ends of carrots, I personally

1638
01:25:20,053 --> 01:25:23,293
Speaker 20: generally eat the whole carrot. But if you have onion peels,

1639
01:25:23,533 --> 01:25:26,813
Speaker 20: just like any bits of vegetables, just put them into

1640
01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:30,293
Speaker 20: a bag or a container in your freezer and then

1641
01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:32,693
Speaker 20: when you have some time to make stock, I just

1642
01:25:33,133 --> 01:25:35,573
Speaker 20: put that with some salt and pepper and any other

1643
01:25:35,653 --> 01:25:37,693
Speaker 20: kind of herbs they have from the garden and just

1644
01:25:37,813 --> 01:25:39,973
Speaker 20: boil it up and it makes a great stock that

1645
01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:43,853
Speaker 20: you can use in cooking and things like that. And

1646
01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:48,693
Speaker 20: same with old banhanas. That I laugh because I once

1647
01:25:48,773 --> 01:25:51,653
Speaker 20: had a freezer it was basically only old bananas.

1648
01:25:53,533 --> 01:25:55,013
Speaker 4: So yeah, no banana.

1649
01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:57,213
Speaker 20: Should ever go to waste. We have freezers, we have

1650
01:25:57,493 --> 01:26:00,893
Speaker 20: muffins to make. Like, yeah, fruit is one of the

1651
01:26:01,413 --> 01:26:05,213
Speaker 20: main ones that we waste, and so we really don't

1652
01:26:05,253 --> 01:26:07,773
Speaker 20: need to be wasting it. We can things like our

1653
01:26:07,853 --> 01:26:11,453
Speaker 20: freezers to store stuff for when we do need it

1654
01:26:11,693 --> 01:26:13,973
Speaker 20: or even at the moment. You know, people have heaps

1655
01:26:14,013 --> 01:26:18,693
Speaker 20: of fijos, I think especially after the wind the windiness,

1656
01:26:20,413 --> 01:26:23,573
Speaker 20: and it's just an abundance. So if you you know

1657
01:26:23,693 --> 01:26:26,293
Speaker 20: rack them in your freezer or if you want to

1658
01:26:26,453 --> 01:26:29,293
Speaker 20: learn how to preserve them. Then during the months where

1659
01:26:29,333 --> 01:26:31,733
Speaker 20: it's not fudo a season, you've actually got all this

1660
01:26:32,213 --> 01:26:36,133
Speaker 20: great stuff to cook with. But there's a lot of info.

1661
01:26:36,693 --> 01:26:40,333
Speaker 20: Because it is May's Food Appreciation Month. Every bite has

1662
01:26:40,373 --> 01:26:43,453
Speaker 20: a program that's like everyone's getting involved sharing tips, and

1663
01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:46,213
Speaker 20: you can kind of sign up and really make May. Like,

1664
01:26:46,613 --> 01:26:48,413
Speaker 20: I know, it's a good it's good to have these

1665
01:26:48,453 --> 01:26:50,933
Speaker 20: months because even though it kind of sounds explanatory, we

1666
01:26:51,013 --> 01:26:53,093
Speaker 20: can learn and do these things. It's good to have

1667
01:26:53,133 --> 01:26:54,853
Speaker 20: a month where you're like, right, I'm actually really going

1668
01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:57,053
Speaker 20: to get on top of my food waste and I'm

1669
01:26:57,053 --> 01:26:58,413
Speaker 20: going to implement some of these things.

1670
01:26:58,733 --> 01:27:01,973
Speaker 4: So one thing I find is I go through our

1671
01:27:02,093 --> 01:27:04,093
Speaker 4: cupboard because I mean, this was going to come as

1672
01:27:04,093 --> 01:27:06,173
Speaker 4: a huge surprise. And I've said this before, but I'm

1673
01:27:06,493 --> 01:27:09,653
Speaker 4: like quite anal and you know, like I like a

1674
01:27:09,733 --> 01:27:13,053
Speaker 4: tidy house, tidy mind, and I don't love having food

1675
01:27:13,133 --> 01:27:14,693
Speaker 4: that's going past it's used by date and all that

1676
01:27:14,813 --> 01:27:16,253
Speaker 4: kind of thing. So I kind of go through our

1677
01:27:16,333 --> 01:27:19,013
Speaker 4: pantry once a month or so. How do you manage

1678
01:27:19,453 --> 01:27:21,813
Speaker 4: things in your pantry that are about to be going off?

1679
01:27:22,653 --> 01:27:24,573
Speaker 4: You know past the use by date sometimes soon do

1680
01:27:24,613 --> 01:27:26,733
Speaker 4: you have some sort of a system whereby you know

1681
01:27:26,853 --> 01:27:29,373
Speaker 4: what's going to be going off, so you prioritize eating that.

1682
01:27:30,773 --> 01:27:34,653
Speaker 20: Yep, different shelves, so different it's where it is in

1683
01:27:34,733 --> 01:27:37,853
Speaker 20: the fridge. Like it's the whole psychology too of when

1684
01:27:37,893 --> 01:27:39,733
Speaker 20: you open the fridge, what are you looking at first?

1685
01:27:40,293 --> 01:27:43,493
Speaker 20: How appealing is it too? You know, like some things

1686
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:47,613
Speaker 20: I think, like I reuse a lot of different containers

1687
01:27:47,693 --> 01:27:49,413
Speaker 20: and all that type of stuff, But I also think,

1688
01:27:50,093 --> 01:27:53,013
Speaker 20: you know, how am I presenting it to my tired,

1689
01:27:53,813 --> 01:27:56,973
Speaker 20: hungry self? So when I open the fridge, like, what

1690
01:27:57,573 --> 01:27:59,173
Speaker 20: what does it look like? How can I you know,

1691
01:27:59,453 --> 01:28:03,693
Speaker 20: remember to eat that? So also knowing that a best

1692
01:28:03,733 --> 01:28:06,613
Speaker 20: before and a use by a date often like it's

1693
01:28:06,653 --> 01:28:11,173
Speaker 20: not doesn't mean much. Yeah, and so going with your nose,

1694
01:28:11,813 --> 01:28:15,413
Speaker 20: going with your you know, just basic knowledge of food

1695
01:28:15,493 --> 01:28:18,893
Speaker 20: safety is really important. Things say are best by date

1696
01:28:19,013 --> 01:28:20,893
Speaker 20: because they want to say, you know, this will be

1697
01:28:20,933 --> 01:28:24,333
Speaker 20: the freshest and most delicious before this date, but it

1698
01:28:24,493 --> 01:28:28,693
Speaker 20: can be perfectly edible afterwards. So yeah, I think working

1699
01:28:28,733 --> 01:28:31,333
Speaker 20: out a good system, you know, thinking about what works

1700
01:28:31,373 --> 01:28:33,013
Speaker 20: for your household and how many people are in the

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Speaker 20: house and talking with everyone too it saying okay, maybe

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Speaker 20: you know food leftovers from dinner, we're going to put

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01:28:39,053 --> 01:28:41,293
Speaker 20: in these red tops containers, and so we know that

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01:28:41,693 --> 01:28:45,013
Speaker 20: if we're gonna you know, put leftovers into that container

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01:28:45,053 --> 01:28:47,613
Speaker 20: after dinner, we're going to actually prepare it and put

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01:28:47,653 --> 01:28:49,613
Speaker 20: you know, all the elements, so it's really easy to

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01:28:49,733 --> 01:28:52,933
Speaker 20: just grab. So yeah, working out what suits you best,

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01:28:52,973 --> 01:28:56,093
Speaker 20: if it's a visual aid or if you're able to, like, yeah,

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01:28:56,213 --> 01:29:00,133
Speaker 20: reculibrate and reorganize your fridge. Just thinking about those systems

1710
01:29:00,213 --> 01:29:04,013
Speaker 20: and using may is that month is really like that's

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01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:05,093
Speaker 20: going to be the money saver.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic. Yeah, no, I mean that makes a lot of sense.

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01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:11,693
Speaker 4: We'll put all your little tips there up on the

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01:29:11,733 --> 01:29:14,613
Speaker 4: Newstalk's he'db website. I think just being deliberate, he being

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01:29:14,653 --> 01:29:16,733
Speaker 4: purposeful about this. Yes, it kind of makes all the

1716
01:29:16,773 --> 01:29:19,333
Speaker 4: difference in the long run. Thank you so much, Kate,

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01:29:19,453 --> 01:29:22,013
Speaker 4: stay dry and we will catch again very soon. That

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01:29:22,213 --> 01:29:24,893
Speaker 4: is Kate Haul, our sustainability expert. You can find her

1719
01:29:24,973 --> 01:29:29,373
Speaker 4: on the social media platforms by searching ethically. Kate our

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01:29:29,413 --> 01:29:32,093
Speaker 4: travel expert is taking us all to Vienna in a

1721
01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:34,093
Speaker 4: couple of minutes. On News talks. He'd be right now.

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01:29:34,213 --> 01:29:37,373
Speaker 4: It is eighteen past eleven Travel.

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01:29:37,133 --> 01:29:40,493
Speaker 2: With Wendy wo Tours, where the world is yours for now.

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01:29:41,093 --> 01:29:44,293
Speaker 4: Our travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He's probably feeling pretty

1725
01:29:44,293 --> 01:29:46,173
Speaker 4: good this morning. I reckon, Mike, it's only a hunch,

1726
01:29:46,213 --> 01:29:48,573
Speaker 4: But did you ever think you would see James O'Connor

1727
01:29:48,693 --> 01:29:51,133
Speaker 4: standing up and slotting a winning penalty to give the

1728
01:29:51,173 --> 01:29:52,453
Speaker 4: Crusaders a win over the Blues.

1729
01:29:53,173 --> 01:29:54,893
Speaker 11: We all love James O'Connor to we.

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01:29:55,493 --> 01:29:57,973
Speaker 4: Love Jos O'Connor. Do you know I've loved more season.

1731
01:29:58,053 --> 01:30:01,453
Speaker 4: I've loved more season. He's slotted right, Yeah, yeah, but

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01:30:01,573 --> 01:30:03,373
Speaker 4: it's still it's a funny old world, isn't it.

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01:30:04,493 --> 01:30:04,653
Speaker 18: You know?

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01:30:05,813 --> 01:30:08,453
Speaker 11: Absolutely? Speaking of funny old will Jack, I'm in the

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01:30:08,573 --> 01:30:12,613
Speaker 11: half big box hesh person at the moment, and it's

1736
01:30:12,813 --> 01:30:18,093
Speaker 11: like like Friday here. The shopping is just insatiable, Yeah,

1737
01:30:18,213 --> 01:30:22,893
Speaker 11: pilling out a micor teen and Rebels Sports and Briscoes.

1738
01:30:22,293 --> 01:30:25,173
Speaker 4: And oh my goodness, crazy No, I mean ash Vegass.

1739
01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:27,853
Speaker 4: And I say this as you know, it's someone who's

1740
01:30:27,853 --> 01:30:29,573
Speaker 4: spent a lot of time in as Vegas over the years,

1741
01:30:29,613 --> 01:30:33,053
Speaker 4: given my my dad brought up there, My grandparents lived

1742
01:30:33,053 --> 01:30:36,333
Speaker 4: there and all that. Ash Vegas has had, I reckon

1743
01:30:36,373 --> 01:30:39,133
Speaker 4: a transformation greater than almost any other New Zealand town

1744
01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:42,413
Speaker 4: over the last few years. And it's probably well, it's

1745
01:30:42,453 --> 01:30:44,293
Speaker 4: probably as a result of some of the big dairy

1746
01:30:44,333 --> 01:30:46,853
Speaker 4: conversions and I think some of the some of the

1747
01:30:46,933 --> 01:30:51,173
Speaker 4: dairy prices as of late been relatively agreeable. So if

1748
01:30:51,173 --> 01:30:53,453
Speaker 4: there's one sector in our economy that might be doing

1749
01:30:53,533 --> 01:30:57,013
Speaker 4: okay at the moment, it is probably a sector that's

1750
01:30:57,053 --> 01:30:59,973
Speaker 4: going to be impacting things on the retail scene in

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01:31:00,053 --> 01:31:02,373
Speaker 4: ashbur So you go, I think for that great sort

1752
01:31:02,373 --> 01:31:03,613
Speaker 4: of art center and things now too.

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01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:07,373
Speaker 11: I've been hates on a lot of their like civic

1754
01:31:07,493 --> 01:31:10,733
Speaker 11: amenities the last year. Yeah, it's a really good place

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01:31:10,773 --> 01:31:11,093
Speaker 11: to live.

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01:31:11,613 --> 01:31:14,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always loved that part of the world. Oh well,

1757
01:31:14,693 --> 01:31:19,053
Speaker 4: from ash Vegas to Vienna. Two cultural mecchas this morning

1758
01:31:20,493 --> 01:31:24,813
Speaker 4: and whilstzing through Vienna. It is one of those places

1759
01:31:24,813 --> 01:31:27,613
Speaker 4: of the world that is absolutely synonymous with coffee shops.

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Speaker 10: Right, totally.

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01:31:28,573 --> 01:31:29,453
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a religion.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 11: They've actually got two and a half thousand cafes and

1764
01:31:32,813 --> 01:31:36,893
Speaker 11: coffee shops in Vienna. It's the old school coffee shops

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01:31:37,013 --> 01:31:40,373
Speaker 11: all marble and velvet that I think really express the

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Speaker 11: city's soul. So interestingly, the menus they still with about

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01:31:45,093 --> 01:31:48,613
Speaker 11: twenty types of coffee. The top seller in Vienna is

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01:31:48,693 --> 01:31:52,693
Speaker 11: a Millage, which is it's sort of like a cappuccino

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01:31:52,773 --> 01:31:56,973
Speaker 11: and it's a espresso with steams froffy milk. Another big

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01:31:57,573 --> 01:32:02,773
Speaker 11: cellar ange Spanner, which is an espresso heaps with whipped cream.

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01:32:02,933 --> 01:32:05,733
Speaker 11: They do love their whipped cream in Vienna. I went

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01:32:05,773 --> 01:32:09,133
Speaker 11: with the super fancy coffee. It's called a fiaca, which

1773
01:32:09,213 --> 01:32:11,853
Speaker 11: is a large espresso, whipped cream and a shot of

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01:32:12,093 --> 01:32:15,213
Speaker 11: cherry schnaps to put a bit of pep in your step.

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Speaker 4: Am I run thing in? The Ottoman Turks were kind

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01:32:19,733 --> 01:32:22,653
Speaker 4: of responsible for the cafe culture.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, very much, Jack. When the Ottoman's unsuccessfully tried to

1778
01:32:26,613 --> 01:32:30,853
Speaker 11: seize Vienna four hundred years ago, their soldiers inadvertently left

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01:32:30,893 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 11: behind their bags of coffee beans on Kallenburg Mountain, which

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01:32:35,213 --> 01:32:37,853
Speaker 11: is just above the city. So that gave rise to

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01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:42,693
Speaker 11: Vienna's cafe society, in fact Europe's. And it's quite interesting

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01:32:42,733 --> 01:32:46,213
Speaker 11: the backstory because the locals who discovered these bags, they

1783
01:32:46,413 --> 01:32:49,013
Speaker 11: thought the beans should be added to super first, they

1784
01:32:49,053 --> 01:32:50,773
Speaker 11: didn't really know what they held to do with them,

1785
01:32:51,253 --> 01:32:56,133
Speaker 11: so they pumped some captured Ottoman soldiers for info and

1786
01:32:56,813 --> 01:32:59,613
Speaker 11: before long, yes, Europe's love affair with coffee was born.

1787
01:33:00,013 --> 01:33:03,413
Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. So beyond coffee, what about good eats and

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01:33:03,613 --> 01:33:05,293
Speaker 4: Vienna's signature tastes.

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01:33:05,693 --> 01:33:08,333
Speaker 11: Yeah, well it's to go past a vena Schnitzel, which

1790
01:33:08,453 --> 01:33:11,493
Speaker 11: has to be veal to be vena schnitzel.

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Speaker 6: I discovered.

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Speaker 11: Rather expensive though that little slice of the calve so

1793
01:33:18,093 --> 01:33:22,413
Speaker 11: a lot of schnitzel in Vienna is actually pork. And

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01:33:22,533 --> 01:33:25,773
Speaker 11: a great place to go is this restaurant called Fegel Muller.

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Speaker 11: They actually claim to be the home of the original

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01:33:28,933 --> 01:33:32,853
Speaker 11: vena Schnitzel, but they also do pork schnitzel and the

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01:33:33,013 --> 01:33:38,773
Speaker 11: portion sizes would slayer passing. Texan Schnitzel is served the

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01:33:38,893 --> 01:33:42,253
Speaker 11: size of a family pizza and it protrudes over the

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01:33:42,333 --> 01:33:44,053
Speaker 11: side of your dinner plate and it comes with the

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Speaker 11: side of potato salad, which is really good street food

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01:33:48,533 --> 01:33:52,253
Speaker 11: by the way. Liba casa, which is like a slice

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01:33:52,253 --> 01:33:54,653
Speaker 11: of meat roll served in a crusty bun, and it's

1803
01:33:54,733 --> 01:33:58,573
Speaker 11: typically a combo of finely chopped pork bacon and beef.

1804
01:33:58,813 --> 01:34:01,933
Speaker 11: It kind of looks like a pinkish pete. At Christmas

1805
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:04,573
Speaker 11: time they serve wild boar in these crusty buns, but

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01:34:05,213 --> 01:34:06,853
Speaker 11: definitely get it to teated.

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Speaker 5: It is so tasty.

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Speaker 11: And I was thinking of you, Jack, Sweet Tooth Department.

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01:34:12,053 --> 01:34:16,093
Speaker 11: Apple Strudel obviously is a national obsession. My new found

1810
01:34:16,173 --> 01:34:21,133
Speaker 11: love in Vienna. Kayser Schmann or Kaiser Schmann, actually Kaiser

1811
01:34:21,213 --> 01:34:25,133
Speaker 11: Schmann as in the Emperor of the Kaiser. Yeah, it's

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01:34:25,173 --> 01:34:29,133
Speaker 11: a pile of shredded, fluffy pancakes served with stewed plums.

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Speaker 11: I am sold.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they shred them out, so they like fry

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01:34:34,053 --> 01:34:38,253
Speaker 4: the pancakes and then tread them correct yeow oh great, okay,

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01:34:38,293 --> 01:34:42,133
Speaker 4: and they're still warm, They're not like yeah yeah, oh man, okay, Yeah,

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01:34:42,373 --> 01:34:45,573
Speaker 4: I'm sold. That sounds fantastic. There are a lot of

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01:34:46,173 --> 01:34:48,733
Speaker 4: palaces and follies in Vienna, so what did you fancy?

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01:34:49,413 --> 01:34:49,613
Speaker 16: Yeah?

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01:34:49,693 --> 01:34:52,853
Speaker 11: They are started with a ridiculous number of royal palaces

1821
01:34:52,973 --> 01:34:56,453
Speaker 11: like schoon Braun and the Hofburg, which is why many

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01:34:56,493 --> 01:34:58,693
Speaker 11: people called me in a wedding cake city. It's just

1823
01:34:58,773 --> 01:35:02,693
Speaker 11: got all of these you know, confections architecturally, but I reckon.

1824
01:35:02,773 --> 01:35:05,373
Speaker 11: One of the best pads is Belvedere Palace. So this

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01:35:05,573 --> 01:35:08,773
Speaker 11: is the Habspurg summer residents, and it's draped in the

1826
01:35:08,813 --> 01:35:13,053
Speaker 11: most incredibly dreamy gardens, lots of statues, lots of like

1827
01:35:13,613 --> 01:35:18,333
Speaker 11: Greek and Roman mythological statues, amazing fountains, and come the weekend,

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01:35:18,413 --> 01:35:21,293
Speaker 11: it's like half of Vienna flocks there just to hang out.

1829
01:35:22,213 --> 01:35:25,773
Speaker 11: And inside the palace the big drawer the artwork of

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01:35:26,093 --> 01:35:29,093
Speaker 11: yours Stave Clint Austria's where we had painter and of

1831
01:35:29,173 --> 01:35:32,293
Speaker 11: course he's the guy behind. Really the only painting the

1832
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:34,093
Speaker 11: world comes to see, and that's the kiss.

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01:35:34,693 --> 01:35:38,293
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh so good. So what about that giant

1834
01:35:38,493 --> 01:35:40,813
Speaker 4: firece wheel in the end? Did you track it down?

1835
01:35:41,613 --> 01:35:41,773
Speaker 6: Yes?

1836
01:35:41,853 --> 01:35:45,093
Speaker 11: Indeed, Prata Park. I'm always up for cheap drills, as

1837
01:35:45,133 --> 01:35:48,533
Speaker 11: you know, Jack, and one of the world's oldest amusement parks,

1838
01:35:48,933 --> 01:35:52,533
Speaker 11: Prata delivers in spades. It's actually been like a nursery

1839
01:35:52,973 --> 01:35:56,013
Speaker 11: for many fair ground rights, so like it had the

1840
01:35:56,093 --> 01:35:58,933
Speaker 11: world's first ghost train. But the big boy is that

1841
01:35:59,133 --> 01:36:03,533
Speaker 11: giant fairest wheel, the Raisin Rudd, which James Bond of

1842
01:36:03,573 --> 01:36:07,773
Speaker 11: Fiscionado's will recognized from the Living Daylight it's the world's

1843
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:12,573
Speaker 11: oldest operating, fairest wheel of its size. And I took

1844
01:36:12,653 --> 01:36:15,013
Speaker 11: a ride up on the Raisin Rudd and it definitely

1845
01:36:15,133 --> 01:36:18,773
Speaker 11: gives you the best views across vin Vienna's rooftops.

1846
01:36:19,093 --> 01:36:22,053
Speaker 4: And who from Clint to another artist to who is

1847
01:36:22,133 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 4: the notable composer whose birthday is being celebrated this year?

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01:36:25,733 --> 01:36:28,293
Speaker 11: Oh my god, they're so excited about this in Vienna.

1849
01:36:28,853 --> 01:36:33,733
Speaker 11: Johannes Strauss Vienna is celebrating his two hundredth birthday this year.

1850
01:36:33,853 --> 01:36:38,173
Speaker 11: The king of waltz. Of course, think Blue Danube and

1851
01:36:38,693 --> 01:36:41,613
Speaker 11: anything waltzy. It's probably Strauss.

1852
01:36:41,973 --> 01:36:42,213
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1853
01:36:42,573 --> 01:36:46,293
Speaker 11: So there's a year long roster of celebration concerts in events,

1854
01:36:46,333 --> 01:36:47,853
Speaker 11: A lot of them are free, a lot of them

1855
01:36:47,853 --> 01:36:50,973
Speaker 11: are open air. In Vienna, he was actually the Harry

1856
01:36:51,173 --> 01:36:52,453
Speaker 11: Styles of his day.

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01:36:52,613 --> 01:36:52,813
Speaker 2: Jack.

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01:36:53,293 --> 01:36:57,133
Speaker 11: It was this wildly idolized pop star of the mid

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01:36:57,293 --> 01:37:00,373
Speaker 11: nineteenth century and Quoite the womanizer. I have to add

1860
01:37:01,653 --> 01:37:05,413
Speaker 11: historians reckon he was engaged thirteen times.

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01:37:05,813 --> 01:37:11,493
Speaker 4: No wow, okay, well that's a life we'll lived for

1862
01:37:11,613 --> 01:37:15,733
Speaker 4: the sousand peas. Yeah, okay, oh so that's fantastic. Thank

1863
01:37:15,773 --> 01:37:18,973
Speaker 4: you all of your all of your tips for exploring

1864
01:37:19,093 --> 01:37:21,533
Speaker 4: Vienna up on the Newstalks 'DB website. You go and

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01:37:21,733 --> 01:37:24,013
Speaker 4: enjoy ash Burton and we will lack at chigg In

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01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:24,493
Speaker 4: very soon.

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Speaker 11: Thank you very much. Jack, Yeah you too.

1868
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Speaker 4: That's Mike Yardly, our travel correspondent. Just coming up to

1869
01:37:30,653 --> 01:37:33,013
Speaker 4: eleven thirty with Jack Tamee. This is news talk's 'd.

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Speaker 1: Be getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1871
01:37:40,533 --> 01:37:42,413
Speaker 1: team on News Talks EDB.

1872
01:37:57,253 --> 01:38:00,373
Speaker 4: News Talks. He'd be just after eleven thirty after midday today,

1873
01:38:00,493 --> 01:38:03,453
Speaker 4: Jason pine is in for weekend sport. Big weekend to sports.

1874
01:38:03,453 --> 01:38:05,853
Speaker 4: Starting off Piney with that amazing result for the Crusaders

1875
01:38:05,973 --> 01:38:10,173
Speaker 4: last night in christ Church. I just love how much

1876
01:38:10,293 --> 01:38:16,613
Speaker 4: kind of how much these games, these local derbies have

1877
01:38:16,733 --> 01:38:18,453
Speaker 4: meant to the New Zealand players this year. And it

1878
01:38:18,533 --> 01:38:20,373
Speaker 4: was just so evident all throughout that game, and I

1879
01:38:20,453 --> 01:38:22,533
Speaker 4: really felt like either team could have taken And of

1880
01:38:22,573 --> 01:38:24,413
Speaker 4: course I'd love to say I had absolute faith in

1881
01:38:24,453 --> 01:38:26,813
Speaker 4: the Crusaders, but things to get pretty tight near the end.

1882
01:38:27,253 --> 01:38:27,653
Speaker 4: They did.

1883
01:38:27,773 --> 01:38:31,053
Speaker 19: But for a man who has only a ready just

1884
01:38:31,213 --> 01:38:35,893
Speaker 19: entered this rivalry this season, James O'Connor stepping up call

1885
01:38:35,973 --> 01:38:38,213
Speaker 19: as a cucumber at the end, he'd kicked a penalty

1886
01:38:38,253 --> 01:38:40,413
Speaker 19: to make it twenty to wall and then one after

1887
01:38:40,453 --> 01:38:42,493
Speaker 19: the final hooder to give the Crusaders the one actually

1888
01:38:42,493 --> 01:38:44,733
Speaker 19: gonna have a answer. James O'Connor on the show this

1889
01:38:44,893 --> 01:38:46,813
Speaker 19: afternoon after one o'clock. He's going to join us. I

1890
01:38:46,933 --> 01:38:49,653
Speaker 19: bet he's feeling a million dollars in just everything I've

1891
01:38:49,693 --> 01:38:51,893
Speaker 19: seen from him this year in terms of the media

1892
01:38:51,973 --> 01:38:54,253
Speaker 19: he's done and just his demeanor. He just seems to

1893
01:38:54,293 --> 01:38:55,213
Speaker 19: be loving life there.

1894
01:38:55,373 --> 01:38:59,053
Speaker 4: And he's just a really good value. You know, he's

1895
01:38:59,093 --> 01:39:01,453
Speaker 4: a seriously good value. And I mean, you know, he wasn't.

1896
01:39:01,693 --> 01:39:03,413
Speaker 4: He wasn't like a love to hate kind of player,

1897
01:39:03,533 --> 01:39:05,813
Speaker 4: necessarily for the you know, for the for the New

1898
01:39:05,893 --> 01:39:08,613
Speaker 4: Zealand right fans when he first broke onto the scene.

1899
01:39:08,693 --> 01:39:11,173
Speaker 4: But you know, it's just it is funny for you know,

1900
01:39:11,693 --> 01:39:13,093
Speaker 4: once the shoes on the other foot, and all of

1901
01:39:13,133 --> 01:39:15,173
Speaker 4: a sudden he's a hometown hero, you know, and maybe

1902
01:39:15,213 --> 01:39:17,613
Speaker 4: a few years under the belt, you know, on his

1903
01:39:17,733 --> 01:39:20,853
Speaker 4: side of the equation, and yeah, he's I agree, he's

1904
01:39:20,893 --> 01:39:23,893
Speaker 4: really he's really kind of you know, he's hard not

1905
01:39:23,973 --> 01:39:26,413
Speaker 4: to love a few Crusaders hand at the very kind

1906
01:39:26,413 --> 01:39:27,973
Speaker 4: of I can't love the role of god him playing

1907
01:39:27,973 --> 01:39:29,573
Speaker 4: as well just coming in the last you know, the

1908
01:39:29,693 --> 01:39:31,813
Speaker 4: kind of last ten or fifteen minutes as a real closer.

1909
01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:33,253
Speaker 4: It seems to be working for them.

1910
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Speaker 19: Must be a must be quite an adjustment for him

1911
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Speaker 19: to make a guy who you know, right throughout his

1912
01:39:37,533 --> 01:39:40,053
Speaker 19: career would have would have been the starting first five

1913
01:39:40,173 --> 01:39:42,573
Speaker 19: or whatever position he's played, because he's played a lot

1914
01:39:42,573 --> 01:39:46,413
Speaker 19: of positions, but normally a starter has I think embraced

1915
01:39:46,453 --> 01:39:49,493
Speaker 19: this role of coming off the bench and closing out

1916
01:39:49,573 --> 01:39:53,133
Speaker 19: games in whatever way is required. It must take quite

1917
01:39:53,133 --> 01:39:54,813
Speaker 19: the adjustment. So you're looking forward to having a chat

1918
01:39:54,893 --> 01:39:58,253
Speaker 19: to James. There was even some some murmurings online last

1919
01:39:58,333 --> 01:40:03,173
Speaker 19: night about his All Blacks eligibility. His parents are both Kiwis.

1920
01:40:03,413 --> 01:40:06,053
Speaker 19: He hasn't played for Australia since twenty twenty two, but

1921
01:40:06,413 --> 01:40:09,773
Speaker 19: I noted that there was someone pointed out they did

1922
01:40:09,813 --> 01:40:12,253
Speaker 19: play for Australia A in twenty twenty three, so it

1923
01:40:12,293 --> 01:40:14,933
Speaker 19: couldn't be eligible. It's the three year thing. Look, whether

1924
01:40:15,053 --> 01:40:16,733
Speaker 19: or not it's even a thing, I think he still

1925
01:40:16,773 --> 01:40:19,773
Speaker 19: harves ambition to play for the Wallabies. James O'Connor, so

1926
01:40:19,813 --> 01:40:20,413
Speaker 19: looking forward.

1927
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Speaker 4: To see he's asking him. That'd be a good option.

1928
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Speaker 4: Yeah for the Wallabies. Yeah, that'd be great. I'm looking

1929
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Speaker 4: forward to that. Why aren't you on the show this afternoon.

1930
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Speaker 19: Jordi Barrett after midday. Haven't had the chance to catch

1931
01:40:30,013 --> 01:40:31,973
Speaker 19: up with Jordy since he went to Ireland and he

1932
01:40:32,133 --> 01:40:34,253
Speaker 19: is tearing it up over there, playing really well on

1933
01:40:34,333 --> 01:40:37,453
Speaker 19: his sabbatical for Leinster. You know, how is it going

1934
01:40:37,573 --> 01:40:39,933
Speaker 19: for him? Does he feel like he's improved? He said

1935
01:40:39,973 --> 01:40:42,413
Speaker 19: before he left. The reason I'm going to Ireland is

1936
01:40:42,413 --> 01:40:44,293
Speaker 19: because I want to come back a bit of player.

1937
01:40:44,733 --> 01:40:46,973
Speaker 19: So look, let's find out whether he feels that is

1938
01:40:47,013 --> 01:40:49,533
Speaker 19: the case. And also Rico Yuanni, as we know, is

1939
01:40:49,613 --> 01:40:51,813
Speaker 19: hitting up that way as well next year. I wonder

1940
01:40:51,853 --> 01:40:54,733
Speaker 19: whether Rico actually, you know, just dropped a WhatsApp message

1941
01:40:54,813 --> 01:40:56,573
Speaker 19: or something to Jordie to ask him what it was

1942
01:40:56,733 --> 01:40:59,173
Speaker 19: like up there, got some advice from him, So yeah,

1943
01:40:59,173 --> 01:41:01,493
Speaker 19: have a chat to Jordi Barrett. Also, the other issue

1944
01:41:01,533 --> 01:41:04,093
Speaker 19: that has been bubbling around this week is Grace weck

1945
01:41:04,253 --> 01:41:07,413
Speaker 19: Is eligibility for the Silver Ferns. As we know she's

1946
01:41:07,413 --> 01:41:10,453
Speaker 19: playing in Australia, therefore not eligible. The board has said,

1947
01:41:10,493 --> 01:41:12,973
Speaker 19: look we'll look at it. Dan Nolin Todo I think

1948
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:15,373
Speaker 19: would certainly want them to. She's on the show after

1949
01:41:15,733 --> 01:41:18,253
Speaker 19: two o'clock as well. Plus we'll cover off other bits

1950
01:41:18,293 --> 01:41:21,333
Speaker 19: and pieces too. Big show tomorrow as well. With no

1951
01:41:21,573 --> 01:41:24,053
Speaker 19: ads on the show tomorrow, jams so we can talk

1952
01:41:24,133 --> 01:41:27,693
Speaker 19: for longer. And there's heaps happening tonight, Warriors, Super Rugby,

1953
01:41:27,773 --> 01:41:31,173
Speaker 19: couple of big games and Auckland FC could could when

1954
01:41:31,213 --> 01:41:33,653
Speaker 19: the Premier's play tonight and the A League Men's if

1955
01:41:33,693 --> 01:41:36,053
Speaker 19: they win and the game following them goes the way

1956
01:41:36,093 --> 01:41:37,973
Speaker 19: they want to, So heaps to cover off.

1957
01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:43,613
Speaker 4: How fish because they just few I mean, it's obviously

1958
01:41:43,653 --> 01:41:45,533
Speaker 4: been a trickier kind of part of the season. They've

1959
01:41:45,573 --> 01:41:47,933
Speaker 4: had a lot of drawers. I mean not losing games,

1960
01:41:47,973 --> 01:41:50,253
Speaker 4: but also just you know, just not closing things out

1961
01:41:50,333 --> 01:41:51,573
Speaker 4: as they might have liked.

1962
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,733
Speaker 19: My gout feelers they won't win tonight. They're playing Melbourne Victory,

1963
01:41:54,733 --> 01:41:56,853
Speaker 19: who are a good team, especially at home. I get

1964
01:41:56,893 --> 01:41:59,293
Speaker 19: the feeling it might be another draw tonight and that

1965
01:41:59,373 --> 01:42:02,373
Speaker 19: would possibly give them the opportunity to win the Premier's plate.

1966
01:42:02,493 --> 01:42:05,773
Speaker 19: This is the regular season silverware at home next Sunday

1967
01:42:05,813 --> 01:42:08,333
Speaker 19: against Perth Glory, which I think would be cool if

1968
01:42:08,973 --> 01:42:11,653
Speaker 19: we knew that if they win next week they win

1969
01:42:11,773 --> 01:42:14,253
Speaker 19: the premieres plate. I reckon that packs out go media

1970
01:42:14,653 --> 01:42:17,293
Speaker 19: and creates a really cool occasion. So it's up about

1971
01:42:17,333 --> 01:42:19,093
Speaker 19: a small part of me hopes they don't secure it

1972
01:42:19,173 --> 01:42:21,853
Speaker 19: tonight anyways, so we can be the kind of a

1973
01:42:21,933 --> 01:42:24,533
Speaker 19: case exactly all right, exactly right, So we'll see how

1974
01:42:24,573 --> 01:42:25,973
Speaker 19: that goes. But we'll cover all that up tomorrow. So

1975
01:42:26,093 --> 01:42:28,253
Speaker 19: heaps a sport over the weekend, our bit of Formula

1976
01:42:28,333 --> 01:42:30,893
Speaker 19: one two, Liam Lawson, Look, I don't know where to look, Jack,

1977
01:42:30,893 --> 01:42:31,453
Speaker 19: this heaps on.

1978
01:42:31,813 --> 01:42:33,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good, looking forward to it, Thank you sir,

1979
01:42:33,413 --> 01:42:37,213
Speaker 4: Thank goodness. We don't have ads tomorrow, Pony Jason Vine

1980
01:42:37,293 --> 01:42:40,293
Speaker 4: with us right after the midday with weekend Sport. Before midday,

1981
01:42:40,573 --> 01:42:42,493
Speaker 4: we're going to play some new music from Bay Roots.

1982
01:42:42,533 --> 01:42:44,373
Speaker 4: They've got a brand new album. And next up we've

1983
01:42:44,373 --> 01:42:46,973
Speaker 4: got your book picks for this weekend, including a fantastic

1984
01:42:47,093 --> 01:42:49,253
Speaker 4: new read from David Bell Darchie, So we'll tell you

1985
01:42:49,293 --> 01:42:51,133
Speaker 4: about that. Twenty four to twelve.

1986
01:42:51,493 --> 01:42:55,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1987
01:42:56,013 --> 01:42:57,013
Speaker 1: part by News Talks.

1988
01:42:57,053 --> 01:42:59,133
Speaker 2: I'd be twenty one.

1989
01:42:59,133 --> 01:43:01,493
Speaker 4: To twelve on News talks 'b SOA Auckland Councilor Shane

1990
01:43:01,533 --> 01:43:06,973
Speaker 4: Henderson is demanding answers after the storms in Orland overnight.

1991
01:43:07,013 --> 01:43:08,653
Speaker 4: If you're just turning on the radio, you're in another

1992
01:43:08,693 --> 01:43:10,533
Speaker 4: part of the country. The big storms and Auckland overnight

1993
01:43:10,533 --> 01:43:13,293
Speaker 4: electrical storms flooding around the city are more than two

1994
01:43:13,373 --> 01:43:17,613
Speaker 4: hundred emergency call outs. And it is interesting because obviously

1995
01:43:18,133 --> 01:43:20,133
Speaker 4: the Met Service has put out various warnings over the

1996
01:43:20,213 --> 01:43:22,093
Speaker 4: last few days for different parts of New Zealand as

1997
01:43:22,133 --> 01:43:25,573
Speaker 4: a result of ex tropical Cyclone tam and I think

1998
01:43:25,613 --> 01:43:29,253
Speaker 4: there is a sense this morning from some that all

1999
01:43:29,293 --> 01:43:32,373
Speaker 4: of those warnings came and that maybe for our biggest

2000
01:43:32,373 --> 01:43:35,613
Speaker 4: city there nothing kind of came of those warnings, or

2001
01:43:35,653 --> 01:43:38,573
Speaker 4: at least the weather wasn't too bad. And then perhaps

2002
01:43:38,613 --> 01:43:42,293
Speaker 4: there weren't that many warnings last night and yet the

2003
01:43:42,373 --> 01:43:45,533
Speaker 4: storm was quite serious anyway. On the Texas Morning Zip,

2004
01:43:45,533 --> 01:43:47,253
Speaker 4: he says Jack, good morning. I'm sick of people moaning

2005
01:43:47,253 --> 01:43:49,413
Speaker 4: about the lack of warnings regarding whether events. We have

2006
01:43:49,533 --> 01:43:52,533
Speaker 4: plenty of warnings all week for goodness sake, check Met Service,

2007
01:43:52,573 --> 01:43:54,933
Speaker 4: look at the rain radar. Stop waiting to be spoon

2008
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:57,053
Speaker 4: fed by the authorities. Be proactive.

2009
01:43:57,693 --> 01:43:57,933
Speaker 1: It is.

2010
01:43:58,133 --> 01:44:00,533
Speaker 4: It is tricky, right I mean when it comes to

2011
01:44:00,813 --> 01:44:03,293
Speaker 4: the met Service and the role of those forecasters, they

2012
01:44:03,333 --> 01:44:06,213
Speaker 4: want to they want to they want people to know

2013
01:44:06,373 --> 01:44:09,013
Speaker 4: when there is a risk of a serious weather event.

2014
01:44:09,533 --> 01:44:11,653
Speaker 4: They don't want to be accused of crying wolf or

2015
01:44:11,653 --> 01:44:14,573
Speaker 4: anything like that. But it's always imperfect when it comes

2016
01:44:14,613 --> 01:44:17,053
Speaker 4: to trying to forecast whether and sometimes, as we've learned

2017
01:44:17,093 --> 01:44:19,653
Speaker 4: in the last couple of years, they can issue warnings

2018
01:44:19,693 --> 01:44:22,413
Speaker 4: and then nothing too serious happens, and then they can

2019
01:44:23,493 --> 01:44:25,813
Speaker 4: be surprised by a weather event that seems to come

2020
01:44:25,853 --> 01:44:27,853
Speaker 4: out of the blue. Anyway, ninety two ninety two. If

2021
01:44:27,853 --> 01:44:29,333
Speaker 4: you want to send us a message this morning, it

2022
01:44:29,413 --> 01:44:32,573
Speaker 4: is twenty to twelve, which means Catherine Rains, our book reviewer,

2023
01:44:32,813 --> 01:44:35,853
Speaker 4: standing by with her picks for this weekend. Hey, Catherine,

2024
01:44:35,893 --> 01:44:39,413
Speaker 4: let's start off with Nine Hidden Lives, written by Robert Gold.

2025
01:44:40,293 --> 01:44:45,173
Speaker 21: So this story centers on the murder of a journalist,

2026
01:44:45,533 --> 01:44:48,813
Speaker 21: al Kosher, And she was killed thirty years previously, and

2027
01:44:49,053 --> 01:44:52,293
Speaker 21: her killer has never been found, and she'd been working

2028
01:44:52,533 --> 01:44:56,773
Speaker 21: on some cases and exposing some domestic abuse. And so

2029
01:44:56,933 --> 01:44:59,573
Speaker 21: thirty years later, her doctor, her daughter who's now a

2030
01:44:59,693 --> 01:45:03,253
Speaker 21: doctor and works as a GP is determined to uncover

2031
01:45:03,493 --> 01:45:06,813
Speaker 21: the truth, and she lists the help of an investigative generalist,

2032
01:45:06,813 --> 01:45:10,013
Speaker 21: a guy called Ben Harper, and both live in the

2033
01:45:10,133 --> 01:45:13,653
Speaker 21: town of Hadley, and it's quite packed with secrets. This

2034
01:45:13,773 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 21: town and these residents add a real layer of intrigue,

2035
01:45:17,093 --> 01:45:20,053
Speaker 21: and some are helpful and some are clearly hiding some things,

2036
01:45:20,173 --> 01:45:21,813
Speaker 21: and some people.

2037
01:45:21,573 --> 01:45:23,333
Speaker 4: That you just really don't want to meet.

2038
01:45:24,053 --> 01:45:26,933
Speaker 21: And so after all of these years, she really firmly

2039
01:45:26,973 --> 01:45:30,253
Speaker 21: believes that someone must know what happened to her mother.

2040
01:45:31,173 --> 01:45:33,453
Speaker 21: But people have been keeping secrets for so long that

2041
01:45:33,613 --> 01:45:36,533
Speaker 21: now they'll do whatever they can to keep themselves safe.

2042
01:45:36,653 --> 01:45:38,453
Speaker 21: And the more the two of them dig, the more

2043
01:45:38,533 --> 01:45:42,373
Speaker 21: dangerous and threatening things become. And the first half of

2044
01:45:42,453 --> 01:45:45,253
Speaker 21: the book almost begins quite slowly, and the building of

2045
01:45:45,333 --> 01:45:49,813
Speaker 21: events and the characters and meeting those characters, and when

2046
01:45:49,853 --> 01:45:52,853
Speaker 21: it all starts to meld together, all of a sudden,

2047
01:45:53,013 --> 01:45:55,413
Speaker 21: all of the secrets are being revealed, and it's a

2048
01:45:55,653 --> 01:45:59,093
Speaker 21: very cleverly potted tale as this whole story melds together,

2049
01:45:59,573 --> 01:46:01,933
Speaker 21: and it's also about a reflection of past events and

2050
01:46:02,013 --> 01:46:04,453
Speaker 21: the change life brings, and just the way Robert Gould

2051
01:46:04,493 --> 01:46:06,973
Speaker 21: managed to tie all of their stories together was very

2052
01:46:07,053 --> 01:46:07,493
Speaker 21: well done.

2053
01:46:07,933 --> 01:46:11,213
Speaker 4: Nice, okay, cool, and that's Nine Hidden Lives by Robert Gold.

2054
01:46:11,453 --> 01:46:14,933
Speaker 4: You've also read Strangers in Time by David Balbarci, so

2055
01:46:15,013 --> 01:46:15,373
Speaker 4: this is a.

2056
01:46:15,373 --> 01:46:19,653
Speaker 21: Real departure from his previous novels. He's normally more thriller

2057
01:46:19,773 --> 01:46:23,053
Speaker 21: and set in modern time. And this one revolves around

2058
01:46:23,053 --> 01:46:25,333
Speaker 21: the London Blitzeres of nineteen forty four, so you have

2059
01:46:25,453 --> 01:46:28,613
Speaker 21: that backdrop of World War two German aircraft bombing London,

2060
01:46:28,813 --> 01:46:32,093
Speaker 21: and he paints this picture of these unlikely people getting

2061
01:46:32,133 --> 01:46:34,453
Speaker 21: together to help each other. And so one of those

2062
01:46:34,493 --> 01:46:37,173
Speaker 21: characters is Charlie Matters, and he lives with his grandmother

2063
01:46:37,733 --> 01:46:39,853
Speaker 21: and following the deaths of his parents, and so that

2064
01:46:40,013 --> 01:46:42,693
Speaker 21: in this one room apartment without much food to survive,

2065
01:46:43,293 --> 01:46:45,573
Speaker 21: Charlie's dropped out of school and he's stealing what he

2066
01:46:45,693 --> 01:46:48,613
Speaker 21: can and he works jobs for a few shillings. And

2067
01:46:48,693 --> 01:46:52,453
Speaker 21: then he's Molly Wakefield, who has been raised completely differently

2068
01:46:52,573 --> 01:46:55,613
Speaker 21: in luxury, and she's returned from the countryside where her

2069
01:46:55,653 --> 01:46:58,813
Speaker 21: parents had sent her years before. And when she returns home,

2070
01:46:58,933 --> 01:47:01,933
Speaker 21: she finds only her nanny and no one really seems

2071
01:47:01,973 --> 01:47:04,293
Speaker 21: to know where her parents are, and so they end

2072
01:47:04,413 --> 01:47:08,013
Speaker 21: up meeting each other. These two teens are thrown together

2073
01:47:08,213 --> 01:47:11,933
Speaker 21: with another person, a bookstore owner called Ignatis ov Oliver

2074
01:47:12,053 --> 01:47:14,893
Speaker 21: who's grieving the loss of his wife, and they all

2075
01:47:15,053 --> 01:47:17,533
Speaker 21: need to help each other, but they suspect each other

2076
01:47:17,653 --> 01:47:21,053
Speaker 21: of different things. And with these bombs raining down night

2077
01:47:21,133 --> 01:47:23,293
Speaker 21: after night, it's not just about the war. They have

2078
01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:26,493
Speaker 21: an adventure and there's mystery and heartbreak and how these

2079
01:47:26,533 --> 01:47:30,813
Speaker 21: people from incredibly different backgrounds and this unadventable hardship that

2080
01:47:30,813 --> 01:47:33,333
Speaker 21: they're going through and that loss and the tragedy can

2081
01:47:33,413 --> 01:47:36,813
Speaker 21: help each other. And Baldoucci is particularly good at creating

2082
01:47:37,413 --> 01:47:40,413
Speaker 21: really good characters that are complex and vulnerable but at

2083
01:47:40,453 --> 01:47:42,853
Speaker 21: the same time unraveling their secrets to the reader. And

2084
01:47:42,933 --> 01:47:45,733
Speaker 21: it's just it was brilliant storytelling and it's well worth

2085
01:47:45,733 --> 01:47:47,333
Speaker 21: a read, so good.

2086
01:47:47,573 --> 01:47:50,853
Speaker 4: Thank you. That's Strangers in Time by David Baldachi, Catherine's

2087
01:47:50,853 --> 01:47:53,853
Speaker 4: first Pick nine Hidden Lives by Robert Gold and all

2088
01:47:53,893 --> 01:47:56,013
Speaker 4: the details with both of those books will of course

2089
01:47:56,733 --> 01:47:59,573
Speaker 4: be on the news talk z'db website right now. It

2090
01:47:59,693 --> 01:48:01,573
Speaker 4: is called a twelve Bay Route for.

2091
01:48:01,653 --> 01:48:04,373
Speaker 2: You next giving you the inside scoop on All you

2092
01:48:04,573 --> 01:48:04,973
Speaker 2: Need to Know.

2093
01:48:05,173 --> 01:48:08,613
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure Dot co Dots

2094
01:48:08,653 --> 01:48:11,373
Speaker 1: it for high quality supplements use talks B.

2095
01:48:32,373 --> 01:48:36,693
Speaker 4: This is Grek's Unicorn. It's by Beirute. The new album

2096
01:48:36,933 --> 01:48:39,653
Speaker 4: is a study of losses and a stell Cliffe has

2097
01:48:39,693 --> 01:48:41,013
Speaker 4: been listening high Estelle.

2098
01:48:41,973 --> 01:48:44,093
Speaker 22: Well, one out of the bag.

2099
01:48:44,013 --> 01:48:47,253
Speaker 4: For you, right, I'm just worried that it's going to

2100
01:48:47,293 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 4: be a really bad album and then everyone's gonna go, oh,

2101
01:48:49,413 --> 01:48:51,173
Speaker 4: it's so Morland's so boring.

2102
01:48:52,693 --> 01:48:55,933
Speaker 22: Okay, So that actually get as Unicorn is one of

2103
01:48:56,013 --> 01:48:59,173
Speaker 22: my favorite. It starts with that synth rhythm and it

2104
01:48:59,253 --> 01:49:01,133
Speaker 22: sets it up and it's kind of off key.

2105
01:49:01,053 --> 01:49:03,773
Speaker 4: A little bit. Yeah, you're like, what am I falling into?

2106
01:49:04,333 --> 01:49:07,333
Speaker 22: I actually listened to this entire album, not really having

2107
01:49:07,373 --> 01:49:10,613
Speaker 22: too much background on beow Route, not knowing the style,

2108
01:49:10,853 --> 01:49:13,093
Speaker 22: not knowing that it was actually composed for a circus,

2109
01:49:13,853 --> 01:49:17,493
Speaker 22: and I was on a trip thinking what what is

2110
01:49:17,653 --> 01:49:21,973
Speaker 22: happening here? The thing to know about them is that

2111
01:49:22,853 --> 01:49:25,573
Speaker 22: they already had the style of music minus then being

2112
01:49:25,613 --> 01:49:26,813
Speaker 22: asked to write for a circus.

2113
01:49:27,893 --> 01:49:30,693
Speaker 13: So I love that their style.

2114
01:49:30,613 --> 01:49:33,453
Speaker 22: Has kind of grown and developed into something where someone's like,

2115
01:49:33,573 --> 01:49:36,173
Speaker 22: we can make a whole a whole show with this

2116
01:49:36,333 --> 01:49:39,533
Speaker 22: kind of soundtrack. That's amazing, isn't it? To love music

2117
01:49:39,693 --> 01:49:44,773
Speaker 22: so much that you also then find because there's sort

2118
01:49:44,773 --> 01:49:47,053
Speaker 22: of this American pop thing behind it too, like that

2119
01:49:47,213 --> 01:49:51,573
Speaker 22: old school like you'd expect Elvis to kind of be

2120
01:49:51,733 --> 01:49:54,013
Speaker 22: there or something like this all American kind of sound

2121
01:49:54,053 --> 01:49:55,733
Speaker 22: to it. You know, there's that quality behind it, and

2122
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Speaker 22: I guess that's once they start bringing in synth and

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Speaker 22: keyboard and those kind of sounds. But then suddenly you're

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Speaker 22: like what is that. You're like, it's a melodica, yeah,

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Speaker 22: you know, like the mouth organ thing, and you're like

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Speaker 22: it's bizarre.

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Speaker 20: Or then they'll be alock a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Like squeeze box accordions and that kind of thing that

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Speaker 4: get checked down still yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, where actually usually it sits on its own in

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01:50:16,773 --> 01:50:19,813
Speaker 22: some sort of folky band, but here it's actually getting

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Speaker 22: used and kind of like I mean, most of their

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Speaker 22: albums they've had sort of modern releases of what they're releasing,

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Speaker 22: and I think that there's kind of like these weird

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Speaker 22: like like that one, where it's got that weird happiness

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Speaker 22: about it, but it's also a bit off key because

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Speaker 22: it's in that minor tone and you're like, this is

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01:50:34,413 --> 01:50:37,093
Speaker 22: there's so many layers and so much I'm thank you,

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Speaker 22: hey Jack, thanks for finding you know me, I tell

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Speaker 22: you what finger of the when it comes to this stuff,

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Speaker 22: this is really clever.

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Speaker 2: I I love all these.

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Speaker 22: Instruments that I would not have thought to put in

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01:50:52,373 --> 01:50:56,253
Speaker 22: sort of a slight modern music kind of context. And

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01:50:56,373 --> 01:50:58,533
Speaker 22: there's and I imagine that their live shows would be

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01:50:58,653 --> 01:51:01,733
Speaker 22: absolutely insane because sometimes they could be full orchestral or

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01:51:01,853 --> 01:51:04,653
Speaker 22: just really weird instruments on stage where you get this

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01:51:04,733 --> 01:51:07,453
Speaker 22: real schooling of what the heck is going on here?

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Speaker 22: And also that he so Zach Condon is the guy.

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Speaker 22: It actually started as a solo project for him, and

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01:51:13,733 --> 01:51:15,813
Speaker 22: I dare say he's one of those people who can

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Speaker 22: pick up any form of instrument and he'll find his

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01:51:18,693 --> 01:51:24,093
Speaker 22: way around it. So really clever, really embracing that choir

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01:51:25,373 --> 01:51:28,333
Speaker 22: renaissance sort of music and then finding this modern kind

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01:51:28,373 --> 01:51:31,373
Speaker 22: of twist on it. His version for taking this on

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01:51:31,453 --> 01:51:34,773
Speaker 22: board with the Circus because it's about loss, all versions

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01:51:34,813 --> 01:51:36,973
Speaker 22: of loss. But he was like, imagine if there was

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Speaker 22: a man who was so obsessed with the things we

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Speaker 22: lost on Earth that he collected them and put them

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Speaker 22: on the moon. So that's kind of a deep layer

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Speaker 22: of this album that all our losses are getting taken

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01:51:48,933 --> 01:51:51,293
Speaker 22: by someone and he's so fixated on them he's putting

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Speaker 22: them somewhere else, which I guess then buys into the

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01:51:54,173 --> 01:51:56,413
Speaker 22: performance of the circus kind of stuff. So a lot

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Speaker 22: of the songs are around the solar system and names

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01:52:01,733 --> 01:52:04,053
Speaker 22: that kind of go along with that, which then ties

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Speaker 22: into I guess eventually what the circus are. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 22: to see what the circus would be. If we could

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01:52:09,613 --> 01:52:11,813
Speaker 22: see that as well, that would be wonderful. If anyone

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Speaker 22: wants to send us to the circus, you know, then

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01:52:13,893 --> 01:52:16,493
Speaker 22: that would be would I'd give you more points for

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01:52:16,533 --> 01:52:20,773
Speaker 22: your album? It is it is just about it either

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01:52:20,893 --> 01:52:24,693
Speaker 22: like it's so melodic and so ah yeah, just the

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Speaker 22: instruments and voices that come. It's not it's not a

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Speaker 22: forced sound. It's like this real unusual blending of things

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Speaker 22: and it's quite acrobatic, and it's in its style, which

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01:52:34,733 --> 01:52:36,693
Speaker 22: kind of again suits I'm like, yeah, this is amazing

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01:52:36,733 --> 01:52:38,613
Speaker 22: that he's finally been brought in to make a soundtrack

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Speaker 22: to something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. It's weird, but I mean, is it telling.

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Speaker 22: About you that you are the one that's then found

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Speaker 22: us this music?

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01:52:46,653 --> 01:52:49,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably is you want to run away with.

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Speaker 22: A circus check like it's I would run away with

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01:52:51,333 --> 01:52:54,533
Speaker 22: the circus with this, It's it's haunting and beautiful. He

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Speaker 22: also loves ukulele, So there's some pacifica sort of sounds

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01:52:59,253 --> 01:53:01,613
Speaker 22: that come in through some of the music too, So

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01:53:01,893 --> 01:53:03,653
Speaker 22: you're kind of going to get a lot. There's a

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Speaker 22: lot to unpecking here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:53:07,173 --> 01:53:09,213
Speaker 22: Yeah, and it might mean you might go backwards too

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01:53:09,293 --> 01:53:11,813
Speaker 22: in some of their catalog, which is great keeping in

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Speaker 22: mind that some of the earlier stuff didn't have that

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01:53:13,693 --> 01:53:16,933
Speaker 22: sort of American pop synth based to it, Yeah, but

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01:53:17,133 --> 01:53:19,453
Speaker 22: still had a lot of this world folk music thing

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Speaker 22: going on too. So yeah, God, he's really embraced all

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Speaker 22: of all what he could do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: I'm so pleased. I'm so this is the one time

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Speaker 4: in my life that I could feel like I can

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Speaker 4: can contribute to introducing you to something. You know, Look,

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Speaker 4: you gave me this moment. Yeah, Now I kind of

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Speaker 4: know where you've been at.

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Speaker 22: You like, if you're starting to pick up the flugelhorn

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01:53:41,213 --> 01:53:44,413
Speaker 22: or something different, then you just please can you We

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01:53:44,533 --> 01:53:46,493
Speaker 22: will like to know your progression with any of these

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Speaker 22: unusual instruments.

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Speaker 4: So good So what did you give it? The Study

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Speaker 4: of Losses by Beaute.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm giving an eight out of ten, but I

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Speaker 22: think of it was pitched with the circus, I might

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Speaker 22: give it a ten out of ten.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I saw the visual too. Yeah, yeah, so good.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll have a bit more of a than

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Speaker 4: a few minutes. Hey, thank you so much. Good on

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Speaker 4: you for digging it out as well. Love it astaf well.

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Speaker 4: Mistelle Cliffin is our music reviewer. There A Study of

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Speaker 4: Losses is Bayroots new album right now, it's eight to twelve.

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Speaker 4: this week. I'm back with you next Saturday morning from

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Speaker 4: nine o'clock. Until then, We're going to leave you with Bearoot.

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Speaker 4: Their new album is a study of losses. This song

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