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Speaker 1: You too, guys.

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Speaker 2: Now, Peter, we always enjoy catching up with you. How

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Speaker 2: have you been. How's life been? It feels like about

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Speaker 2: a year since we spoke.

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Speaker 3: Have you just recently had another kid? Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Literally, this house is so full and we've just

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Speaker 4: had a newborn. She's ten eleven weeks old. Literally, I thought,

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for this, fifty one. I feel as young,

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Speaker 4: got the energy, I'll go in the gym. Nothing prepared

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Speaker 4: me for lack of sleep. You feel bad saying it

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Speaker 4: because obviously, no matter how tired I my wife's going

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Speaker 4: to be a lot tighter because she's breastfeeding.

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Speaker 1: So I can't even complain that.

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, you can complain to us. This is

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Speaker 2: a safe space. We won't say a word. We're all

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Speaker 2: the way on the other side of the world.

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Speaker 3: You're right, no one will here.

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Speaker 2: This won't get back to your lovely wife. What do

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Speaker 2: they think? What do they think? You know?

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Speaker 3: Have they seen some of the kids, the older ones

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Speaker 3: seen dead on the beach in Thailand and his jeans

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Speaker 3: swimming in the Mysterious Girl music video.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're as confused as I am. And most

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Speaker 4: people ask why the hell I wore jeans for in

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Speaker 4: the water. I still don't have an answer for that.

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Speaker 4: But that was thirty years ago.

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Speaker 2: Now, she was that city way to make us feel older.

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Speaker 5: That water safety in New Zealand did not approve of

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Speaker 5: those jeans in that beach either, by the way. And

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Speaker 5: did you have to wander around and soggy jeans for

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Speaker 5: the remainder of the day because I imagine there were

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Speaker 5: spear peas lying around.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to be honest with you. This

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Speaker 4: is this is the most in depth I've ever been

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Speaker 4: in this subject. This was a real thing. You know,

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Speaker 4: I walked around my jeets. Have you ever had that

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Speaker 4: thing where you're walking around all day and you're kind

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Speaker 4: of just your muggy and there's sad Chafing.

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Speaker 2: Chafing would have come and to play this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, did I don't feel comfortable with you

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Speaker 3: Chafing, John, Yeah, I don't want to think about Chafing.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's something about that video. The girl in the

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Speaker 4: video was her name was Champagne. So her name was

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Speaker 4: Champagne and she was a model in Thailand and she

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Speaker 4: was half Swiss and half tight and I met her

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Speaker 4: three days before the video. Literally, I was like a

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Speaker 4: lost puppy. We just started dating before the video. Like

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Speaker 4: literally it was instant. We just started dating instantly, which

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Speaker 4: just crazy. And we stayed together about a year and

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Speaker 4: a half after that video.

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Speaker 5: Did you It's a quick turnaround three days boom, you're dating,

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Speaker 5: you're filming music videos, you're chafing.

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Speaker 2: It's all got what we're champagne nowadays?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Apparently she's still I mean she was one of the

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Speaker 4: don't know, I've never I should look her up, actually,

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Speaker 4: can we.

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Speaker 2: Look her off?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you should.

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Speaker 6: As you.

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Speaker 3: Said, your left kid, don't be tired, don't be catching

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Speaker 3: up with Easters now. Looking back, as you say, the nineties,

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Speaker 3: you became a mega star around the world. You know,

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Speaker 3: the song was massive and you know in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: it was huge. But then you kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'll see what happened Like in the nineties, this

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Speaker 4: Montel Jordan Coolio, the Fujis literally talk about name dropping.

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Speaker 4: Monteal Jordan was the one that saw the video and

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Speaker 4: he said, I need you out in America, and I

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Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point of what you're asking, but

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Speaker 2: Keep going and.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the studio this is how it was

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Speaker 4: listened to his whole entire album and I didn't know

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Speaker 4: I'm loving this. And every time he was looking away,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, come on, you know, I want.

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Speaker 1: To get the session now.

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Speaker 4: How much I regret this because if I had known

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Speaker 4: He was a lovely guy, gave us all a hug,

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Speaker 4: Two months later, I'm driving in the car in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: Was jay Z that was in that studio with us.

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Speaker 1: That's one of my biggest regrets toff.

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Speaker 2: What if it happened to that jay Z guy?

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Speaker 1: Do you know? And I thought to myself that what's

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Speaker 4: I can only blame myself. I wanted it so bad.

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Speaker 4: But I think at sixteen, when you're made to go

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Speaker 4: But something happened later on, I think all the stuff.

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Speaker 4: People sort of disappeared for a while and you think, Okay,

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Speaker 4: But I left at a time when we were selling

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Speaker 4: So I had a manager in the UK and I said,

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Speaker 1: It is Meanwhile, I would.

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Speaker 4: Like I check myself in psychiatric wards in New York.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't know what was wrong with me. It's

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Speaker 4: not like now you can talk about mental health that's.

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Speaker 4: you're not happy mentally, nothing nothing will make you happy.

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Speaker 4: None of it can make you happy. If you're not

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Speaker 1: Do you know crazy?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's well, then you've just told us a crazy

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Speaker 2: story from a crazy story. You just told you it

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Speaker 1: You want to hear another one.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'll take it back.

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Speaker 4: This one's a different kind of crazy Backstreet boys right now.

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Speaker 4: Back in the day in the nineties when they came

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, let's go, let's go do the gym.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the gym, and we'll go in the

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Speaker 4: it's not guys and girls separated. Everyone's together and everyone's naked.

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Speaker 1: It was a steam room.

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Speaker 4: But we're all looking at each other going, they're all

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Speaker 4: looking at us like we're straight all right, So come on,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting rid of the towel, George a go on,

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Speaker 4: everything's gone. Some of the boys did, some of the

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Speaker 4: boys didn't. I can't say who didn't. You look, we

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Speaker 4: took the steam room outside. We'd open the door, My

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Speaker 4: the Backstreet Boys. But that's I think that kind of

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Speaker 5: Hey, and a naked steam room with the back Street

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Speaker 5: Boys in Europe and free loving Europe.

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Speaker 2: That's a craziest story. Nineties get a person's dream, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And now if you come back and say jay Z

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Speaker 1: Thing I went back to my hotel and jay Z's dig.

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Speaker 2: We love catching up with you.

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Speaker 3: Look, we'd love to one time you because I know

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Speaker 3: you've got family in Australia when you come back to

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Speaker 3: a strake We'd love to try and get you from

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Speaker 3: Australia to New Zealand because we'd love to hang out

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Speaker 3: with you. We'd love to do something with you. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of like a dream of the show's because you

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Speaker 3: and David Williams, the comedian I'm the UK there seemed

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Speaker 3: to be our celebrity friends.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I will say, My dream is to

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Speaker 4: come back and tour New Zealand and I'm going to

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Speaker 4: do it because it nearly happened five years ago. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to so make it happen. Our new film comes out,

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Speaker 4: and in the film, I've written a song for the film,

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Speaker 4: so that's going to be my first single.

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Speaker 1: Backup. I'm done for years and years and years. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it'll be liked.

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Speaker 4: But what I'll do is come back and do the

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Speaker 4: old stuff because I would love that awesome.

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Speaker 5: Well, we can be your tour promoters who are a

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Speaker 5: shaky pair of hands, but.

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Speaker 3: We're happy to get naked in the steam room, so

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Speaker 3: you know that's it. Actually, to be honest, I think

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Speaker 3: I can.

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Speaker 1: I do apologize, but it was too good enough.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's been a wonderful Chip Peter.

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Speaker 5: Always great catching up with you and you keep safe

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Speaker 5: over there with your your huge football team of children.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys man. Lovely to talk to you always