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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Let's scoop from.

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Speaker 1: The track, fields and the court on your home of sport.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine us.

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Speaker 3: Talks MB eleven O seven. Welcome into an elongated weekend

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Speaker 3: sports show on News Talks EDB. I get the feeling

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Speaker 3: we're going to need it with a bit of audience

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Speaker 3: reaction to watch this played out in WONA series history

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Speaker 3: made Argentina have beaten the All Blacks for the first

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Speaker 3: time on home soil, twenty nine points to twenty three.

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Speaker 3: That means after two rounds of the Rugby Championship, all

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Speaker 3: four teams have a win and a loss. The All

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Speaker 3: Blacks take a bonus point for getting within seven. That

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Speaker 3: has them at the top of the table for now,

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Speaker 3: but big challenges in coming from South Africa and from Australia.

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Speaker 3: This could well be the closest rugby Championship in many

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Speaker 3: many years. Elliott Smith and anstraw And had the call

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Speaker 3: for you. They join us for a bit of a

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Speaker 3: mop up at the end, a few things to furrow

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Speaker 3: the brow of the All Blacks coaching staff, and you

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Speaker 3: talked a lot about the aerial battle. Is that a

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Speaker 3: challenging fix? Is it fixable?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's always fixable, Piny, But it was

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Speaker 4: significant tonight. It wasn't just one or two occasions. It

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Speaker 4: was probably more than ten. And my concerns teams are

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Speaker 4: going to the air a lot more. Of course, South

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Speaker 4: Africa probably one of the best exponents in the world

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Speaker 4: to put the ball in the air and contest, and

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Speaker 4: we just have to get our system set up better

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Speaker 4: and then our skill set of actually reading the ball

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Speaker 4: the flight, get up, get the ball, because you know,

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Speaker 4: teams are just going to keep hammering us in that

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Speaker 4: do that, it's just going to put us under pressure.

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Speaker 4: And it's basically an attacking option for teams now, rather

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Speaker 4: the ball back. So that's an area obviously they've probably

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Speaker 4: been working on it for a while, to be honest, mate,

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Speaker 4: But it's a concern right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, Elliott, It's one of a number of concerns.

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Speaker 3: What else do you think will be top of mind

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Speaker 3: as the All Blacks hop on the plane head home

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Speaker 3: for these two mets of Tests against South Africa.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it has to be disciplined, if not

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Speaker 5: the aerial contest, discipline and accuracy, and we saw tonight

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Speaker 5: the All Blacks reduced to thirteen men late in the

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Speaker 5: of the game three yellow cards. Their discipline simply isn't

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Speaker 5: good enough. And this has been an ongoing issue for

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Speaker 5: New Zealand Rugby and the All Blacks, not for just

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Speaker 5: five years or so, but probably even a little bit longer.

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Speaker 5: And there doesn't seem to be a way to fix

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Speaker 5: is that they give up too many yellow cards and

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Speaker 5: on the back foot and attacking wise as well, they

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Speaker 5: were just lacking the accuracy. Ball carrying was poor. They

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Speaker 5: in the game now, it's how many metage you get

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Speaker 5: Now Argentina had a lot more carries than the All Blacks,

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Speaker 5: but Argentina were just able to dominate the visionaries and

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Speaker 3: And it was also illustration, as you say, of where

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Speaker 3: heck of a lot more. They won the territory and

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Speaker 3: the possession battle tonight, Argentina.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they did. I mean they had. They were

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Speaker 4: when you put pressure on with possession, the ill discipline comes,

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Speaker 4: And also just came back to Elliott's point, just if

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Speaker 3: And can I stay with you on the on the

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Speaker 3: a deliberate knock on and what isn't?

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Speaker 4: I do, but I mean you know this is this

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Speaker 4: a little bit different, to be honest. It's just that

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Speaker 4: Because I think I can get it? But if I do,

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Speaker 4: it right, I've got a yellow card. Well, you know

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Speaker 4: all of those things going through your mind in a

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Speaker 4: right every time. Maybe they need to go to a

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Speaker 4: I think they do, but I think they get given

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Speaker 4: say it's old cliche, of course, and maybe as Alliance

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Speaker 4: here we've just been doing it too often and it's

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Speaker 3: For you, when you have a defeat, you often look

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Speaker 3: at what changes you could make potentially personnel wise. It's

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Speaker 3: not as though the All Blacks are missing a whole

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Speaker 5: I mean it's hard to see it, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Piney.

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Speaker 5: I guess Will Jordan didn't have one of his better nights,

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Speaker 5: but they're not going to ax him for that test

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Speaker 5: But Rico Uani was quiet. Calib Clark may be fit,

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Speaker 5: They're already three half backs down, two half backs down.

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Speaker 5: no changes scream out because it's not like the options

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Speaker 5: So some thinking for Scott, Robinson and coder Zoo on

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Speaker 5: that long plane ride back from Argentina.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, thanks you guys, appreciate your post match wrap up

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Speaker 3: and your commentary this morning. Elliott Smith our rugby editor

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Speaker 3: and lead commentator alongside form All Blacks halfback and expert

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Speaker 3: analyst and Straw and they'll be back on your radio

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Speaker 3: on the night of September sixth when the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: welcome the challenge of the spring box to Eden park

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Speaker 3: We'll have it for you of course here on news Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd b thirteen past eleven All right while we're here

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Speaker 3: right through until three, So let's get underway. Your chance

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Speaker 3: to react immediately before you hear anything in terms of

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Speaker 3: postmatch from the players, from the coaches. We'll have a

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Speaker 3: next hour or so. But your chance to react immediately.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty to what you

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Speaker 3: think it's confusing, but there is work to do. South

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Speaker 3: Africa will not be looking at that game this morning

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Speaker 3: break the Eden Park curse. Too many penalties given away

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Speaker 3: in dangerous positions. The All Blacks outscored Argentina three tries

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Speaker 6: It was the five.

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Speaker 3: Penalties that were the difference out there. And the aerial battle.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of work to do there in the aerial battle.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties. Our number phones are

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Speaker 3: starting to ring already. Let's get a Breakaway eleven fourteen.

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Speaker 5: V Taken off the back by my tide. He winds up,

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Speaker 5: Half back shots down Argentina twenty four point thirteen and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Argentina doing a job on the All Blacks twenty nine,

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Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty kick us off, Jason.

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Speaker 8: Three Things final and my heart dunk. When I think

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Speaker 8: body missed that a penalty under the six. There was

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Speaker 8: missus twelve points points when test matches, I think it's as.

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Speaker 9: Clear as that I I.

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Speaker 8: I think it ended up twenty nine to twenty six

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Speaker 8: or something like that. When McKenzie slotted that, you know,

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Speaker 8: point just to get a bone this point. But there's

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Speaker 8: your first problem. Secondly, I think I counted thirty six

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Speaker 8: We're not to afford anyway, and I went back to

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Speaker 8: Argentina's side. There's our second problem and third problem. And

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Speaker 8: South Africa will just absolutely punish us to the cows

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Speaker 8: come home in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 10: On that, on that tactic. Third one.

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Speaker 8: As I rang last week with the same albeit on

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Speaker 8: the back of a winning forms for all Blacks. As

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Speaker 8: Rico Jojuani has just been carried. He's a luxury.

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Speaker 9: Can't afford.

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Speaker 8: Just get rid of him. He had his worst game

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Speaker 8: last week I've seen in a while, and today was

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Speaker 11: There's my point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no good points, Jase. Can I just address the

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Speaker 10: You know, like you haven't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, another way I put it. Another way of putting it, yeah, Brent,

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Speaker 12: They can kick a ball from a long way away,

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Speaker 12: And obviously we saw Steve Uskiet sent off, which was

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Speaker 3: You have a good day too, nice day and Wellington, Brent,

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Speaker 3: but the sunshine for you to enjoy, plus the shield

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Speaker 3: for your Wye Ko boys appreciate you call them man,

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Speaker 3: and it's look, we've all got different views, right, and

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Speaker 3: eleven twenty seven lines are full, but please keep trying Tim,

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Speaker 3: thanks for holding. Good afternoon, no, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 14: Finally, first and foremost congradulations to Argentina, the first time

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Speaker 11: We were off from the start.

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Speaker 15: We were off from the start.

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Speaker 14: I think a lot of our players got found out today,

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Speaker 14: He kept coming in off as wing and that allowed

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Speaker 14: Anyone can win it.

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Speaker 3: That's so true. Yeah, it's so true. And I think

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Speaker 3: He is the one player who I think, you know

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Speaker 3: then we're Finlay Christie and Kyle Preston, who would be

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a scary thought. And especially the tips that

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Speaker 14: very interesting in them coming to eden Buck. No one's

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Speaker 16: Just Bunny got on.

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Speaker 3: Your tim Always good to hear your thoughts. My thanks

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Speaker 3: to day oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Graham.

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Speaker 17: Hello, Oh get Jason, how are you mate?

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Speaker 3: Too many Crusaders on this team?

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Speaker 18: Grime?

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Speaker 19: Not enough mate?

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Speaker 17: No, I mean look, I mean I don't want to

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Speaker 17: You know, question Mark, we'd argue, but those two are

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Speaker 17: good you are. And I really think, you know a

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Speaker 17: but I think that all black selection panel is in

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Speaker 17: and I think I don't really think things have got

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Speaker 17: But I don't know. I say, I sort of seen,

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Speaker 17: so that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I you know Ethan Blackadder. We know

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Speaker 3: if they're going to bring Ethan Blackader and they have

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Speaker 3: to go outside the squad they've chosen, and I just

431
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Speaker 3: don't think they will. You look at that, and you

432
00:20:38,387 --> 00:20:41,027
Speaker 3: look at that twenty three today and you say, well,

433
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Speaker 3: that's probably the bulk of that. Twenty three will play

434
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Speaker 3: against South Africa in a couple of weeks, so I

435
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:49,827
Speaker 3: guess on the positive side, if you want to flip it,

436
00:20:50,467 --> 00:20:53,547
Speaker 3: those boys will have a big point to prove when

437
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Speaker 3: they run out. But yeah, there's some so so you're

438
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Speaker 3: not a you're not across that you're not a fan

439
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Speaker 3: of the of the vity Savia Parker. I think Wallace

440
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Speaker 3: to Titi will probably come and Amore I.

441
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Speaker 17: Think, well, well keep me right. No, he said an

442
00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:10,547
Speaker 17: outstanding year he did last year at a lot. I'm

443
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Speaker 17: ever going an issue with him.

444
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Speaker 20: I have an issue with.

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Speaker 17: The way they basically I think the loose forwards. I'm

446
00:21:17,947 --> 00:21:20,467
Speaker 17: sorry about being one eyed, but I think some of

447
00:21:20,507 --> 00:21:23,187
Speaker 17: our loose forwards here are better than what the All

448
00:21:23,227 --> 00:21:25,427
Speaker 17: Black selectors. I've sort of said, well, yeah they won

449
00:21:25,507 --> 00:21:28,427
Speaker 17: the competition, but our loose forwards if you outplay the

450
00:21:28,547 --> 00:21:32,827
Speaker 17: Chiefs in a final. But that sort of got basically ignored.

451
00:21:32,907 --> 00:21:35,867
Speaker 17: He now got packed and he's been dropped again or

452
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Speaker 17: left out, whichever way you want to put it. It's

453
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Speaker 17: not the Satis and people's values and I've got any

454
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Speaker 17: issue with you know, those guys are deserving of their

455
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Speaker 17: places in the all black squad. But I just think

456
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Speaker 17: there should be a change direction with some of the

457
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Speaker 17: other ones. That's that's what I'm basically saying.

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Speaker 3: Good on your Graham. I never ever apologize for being

459
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Speaker 3: one eyed, never ever do that. It's what sporters. Thanks Graham.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your call. Dominate. Hello, good, Yeah, good Dominic.

461
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Speaker 15: Thanks get it.

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Speaker 21: Money, mate.

463
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Speaker 22: I've got a few points. The first one is probably

464
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Speaker 22: the back three. It's probably the worst back three.

465
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Speaker 21: Performance that we've had in quite a long time.

466
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Speaker 22: Will Jordan for the last few games has been pretty

467
00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,747
Speaker 22: well nonexistent and probably the worst performance that.

468
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Speaker 23: He's put in.

469
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Speaker 21: So severa Reese, Well, I thought he had a pretty

470
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Speaker 21: good defensive role.

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Speaker 22: Again, I agreed with your previous quarter who was pushing

472
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Speaker 22: in quite a lot in the centers and constricting Jordi,

473
00:22:38,947 --> 00:22:42,987
Speaker 22: Barrett and Proctor to quite you know, quite a fine

474
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Speaker 22: line of where they'd be able to move and got

475
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Speaker 22: caught out quite a few times with kickers and passes

476
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Speaker 22: and stuff like that. And Rita I think his days done,

477
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Speaker 22: to be fair made I think he wasn't a center

478
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Speaker 22: and I think he's just lost all confidence over the

479
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Speaker 22: last probably a couple of years and doesn't really know

480
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Speaker 22: where what to do or we'd play anymore, which is

481
00:23:04,227 --> 00:23:07,107
Speaker 22: quite sad since you go from world class winger to

482
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Speaker 22: really a non existent show on what he had today.

483
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Speaker 22: The problem of God has made as a few like

484
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Speaker 22: with with Robinson's selections, I think listening to Steve Hansen's

485
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Speaker 22: podcast a few weeks ago, no one was guaranteed their spot,

486
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Speaker 22: and I think the likes of the Will Jordans and

487
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Speaker 22: the Artis Saves which everybody seems to be in love with,

488
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Speaker 22: who have not performed probably the last three or four

489
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Speaker 22: Test matches should actually probably be dropped because the likes

490
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Speaker 22: of Artie s V will probably turn around after being

491
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Speaker 22: dropped and probably have you know, an all incumbent game

492
00:23:41,947 --> 00:23:46,707
Speaker 22: of coming out firing. I thought we definitely missed Carifie

493
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Speaker 22: on the field this week, especially in the turnovers, and

494
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Speaker 22: I'd like to see Scott.

495
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Speaker 14: Barrett actually get in the referee's face.

496
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Speaker 22: The thing I've noticed a lot with Australia South Africa

497
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Speaker 22: and tonight with Argentina, the captain just goes in questions.

498
00:24:00,547 --> 00:24:03,067
Speaker 22: It doesn't doesn't have to be aggravated and asking and

499
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Speaker 22: and you know all pushing in annoy like we've seen

500
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Speaker 22: Nick White a few times over the years or a

501
00:24:08,107 --> 00:24:10,547
Speaker 22: few of our players, but he's just simply asking and

502
00:24:10,707 --> 00:24:13,387
Speaker 22: questioning rest's rules or asking what they can do better,

503
00:24:13,427 --> 00:24:15,187
Speaker 22: and always getting on the rests, you know, in the

504
00:24:15,227 --> 00:24:17,187
Speaker 22: rest space. And I don't think we've had that consistently

505
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Speaker 22: from either Scott when he's been doing it, or Ardie

506
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Speaker 22: when he's been doing it, or whoever's been taken over

507
00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:26,147
Speaker 22: from captain. I don't think we've had enough impact in

508
00:24:26,307 --> 00:24:28,347
Speaker 22: that space get talking to the referee to be fair

509
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:30,947
Speaker 22: and questioning what you know, what's happening. I thought Nick

510
00:24:30,987 --> 00:24:33,667
Speaker 22: Berry had had a pretty fair game, to be fair

511
00:24:33,747 --> 00:24:36,907
Speaker 22: on calls both ways, so I don't think that's the blame.

512
00:24:36,987 --> 00:24:39,267
Speaker 22: I think New Zealand has been looking pretty average for

513
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Speaker 22: the last few matches and blaming it all on Bowden

514
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Speaker 22: Bart I don't think was pretty fair. I thought Will

515
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Speaker 22: Jordan probably should have been taken off in Citizen.

516
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Speaker 3: Right don at great points well made right. I've written

517
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Speaker 3: down some names here made as we try and construct

518
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Speaker 3: a back three for South Africa. I think Will Jordan

519
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Speaker 3: keeps his place. He has got four tries made, he's

520
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Speaker 3: a try scoring machine. I think he was. I think

521
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Speaker 3: he I don't think he was below you know, the

522
00:25:02,987 --> 00:25:05,827
Speaker 3: line against France. I think he's you know, he's he's

523
00:25:05,867 --> 00:25:08,347
Speaker 3: still got So I think Will Jordan stays there. I

524
00:25:08,427 --> 00:25:10,467
Speaker 3: think Caleb Clark is still injured. So I've written down

525
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Speaker 3: here Leo Carter, Sorry, Leroy Carter, Emoni, Nadawa, Reuben Love,

526
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Speaker 3: Severa Reese, Rico Yojani, so that they're the options. Really,

527
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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to Caleb Clark coming back because he

528
00:25:23,227 --> 00:25:26,267
Speaker 3: will fix some of the aerial problems. But in his absence,

529
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Speaker 3: what is the back three against South Africa. Let's say

530
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Speaker 3: Will Jordan plays fullback. Who are the wingers?

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Speaker 22: Well, that's the problem. I mean, you haven't really he

532
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Speaker 22: hasn't really built any depths there. I think you've you'd

533
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Speaker 22: have to put maybe Nadawa in there. Or do you

534
00:25:41,187 --> 00:25:45,267
Speaker 22: look at someone like, yeah, well there, or do you

535
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Speaker 22: have to stick with Debby Reese really don't you? Or

536
00:25:47,507 --> 00:25:49,547
Speaker 22: or you have to turn around and stay to someone like,

537
00:25:50,787 --> 00:25:52,907
Speaker 22: you know, one of the new boys that haven't been picked,

538
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Speaker 22: like a I don't know, like a Naholo or one

539
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Speaker 22: of those guys you know, or a Tabanawa. He can

540
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Speaker 22: play out of the wing. Do you go to him

541
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Speaker 22: and go, yeah, this is your chance.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is yes, and it's such an interesting one. Dominant.

543
00:26:06,227 --> 00:26:08,587
Speaker 3: They're out of time, right, They're out of time. There's

544
00:26:08,587 --> 00:26:11,107
Speaker 3: no more games. The next game is this game that

545
00:26:11,307 --> 00:26:14,427
Speaker 3: has been circled in all of our calendars ever since

546
00:26:14,507 --> 00:26:17,467
Speaker 3: the schedule for the Rugby Championship was released, This big

547
00:26:17,547 --> 00:26:20,067
Speaker 3: game against South Africa Eden Park. We haven't lost there

548
00:26:20,107 --> 00:26:23,187
Speaker 3: for you know, since nineteen ninety four. Everything kind of

549
00:26:23,267 --> 00:26:27,267
Speaker 3: seemed to be leading towards this game. And we're now

550
00:26:27,347 --> 00:26:32,427
Speaker 3: out of time. There's no more opportunity to test things out.

551
00:26:32,587 --> 00:26:33,947
Speaker 3: So they kind of got to go all in on

552
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Speaker 3: whatever they go all and on. And I just don't

553
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Speaker 3: know whether there's the mood in this in this selection

554
00:26:39,547 --> 00:26:41,227
Speaker 3: panel to to make change.

555
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Speaker 6: You know.

556
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Speaker 3: Wingers for me are hot hands, you know. And they

557
00:26:45,387 --> 00:26:48,027
Speaker 3: talked about Leroy Carter coming into the All Blacks Wider

558
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:52,027
Speaker 3: training group and tearing things up. I'd give them a game, man, I'd.

559
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Speaker 8: Give them a game, one hundred percent.

560
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Speaker 22: And I think for this time, Plinty, they should have

561
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Speaker 22: had Leroy Carter and Reuben Love in there. They should

562
00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:02,947
Speaker 22: have given them gain time before South Africa and they didn't.

563
00:27:03,187 --> 00:27:06,787
Speaker 22: It was it was a mis selection from them. The

564
00:27:06,867 --> 00:27:09,227
Speaker 22: other point I probably make is is the loose for

565
00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:12,947
Speaker 22: trio needs to be looked at again. Artie Selvera I

566
00:27:12,987 --> 00:27:15,507
Speaker 22: think thought had been quite quiet and maybe dropping him

567
00:27:15,507 --> 00:27:18,587
Speaker 22: would give him, you know, the aggravation going into South Africa.

568
00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:24,427
Speaker 22: I think unfortunately so TT and VII don't know or

569
00:27:24,507 --> 00:27:26,387
Speaker 22: don't look like they know where they want to play

570
00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:29,427
Speaker 22: in position wise, because they've been chucked in loose, loose

571
00:27:29,507 --> 00:27:31,547
Speaker 22: forward and lock so many times they don't know what

572
00:27:31,587 --> 00:27:33,987
Speaker 22: they're doing. I think VIA's ill discipline is a bit

573
00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:36,427
Speaker 22: of a worry because it's been brought up a few

574
00:27:36,507 --> 00:27:38,947
Speaker 22: times where he's been stuck a handout or done something

575
00:27:38,987 --> 00:27:42,147
Speaker 22: stupid to get sent off. So do you do you

576
00:27:42,307 --> 00:27:44,707
Speaker 22: change pack and look like someone you know, turn around

577
00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:48,667
Speaker 22: and give give the the Jacobson's or the Carters or

578
00:27:48,747 --> 00:27:52,267
Speaker 22: the you know, the caref. He's a chance and go

579
00:27:52,787 --> 00:27:55,947
Speaker 22: you've got your chance, stick with it. Do you bring

580
00:27:56,067 --> 00:27:58,627
Speaker 22: someone else in like your lark eyes? Do you or

581
00:27:58,787 --> 00:28:01,507
Speaker 22: your your sees or your tits and go we're all

582
00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:02,547
Speaker 22: building new these are you?

583
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Speaker 9: Loose forward?

584
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Speaker 15: Young boys?

585
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Speaker 22: Like Australia did a couple of years ago and the Schmidt.

586
00:28:07,307 --> 00:28:09,867
Speaker 22: You know, maybe and maybe we're pasted that time now,

587
00:28:09,987 --> 00:28:13,347
Speaker 22: maybe the selectors are too scared to do that, and

588
00:28:13,787 --> 00:28:17,547
Speaker 22: we're looking at probably another smashing in the World Cup Dominate.

589
00:28:17,627 --> 00:28:20,147
Speaker 3: Great points, well mate, thanks for ringing in and giving us,

590
00:28:20,427 --> 00:28:23,987
Speaker 3: giving us your thoughts, much appreciated. Twenty one away from midday,

591
00:28:24,187 --> 00:28:26,147
Speaker 3: one thousand texts which I'm never going to get to,

592
00:28:26,587 --> 00:28:29,187
Speaker 3: but all making very salient points. Thank you for sending

593
00:28:29,227 --> 00:28:30,987
Speaker 3: them through. Don't let it stop you. We do read

594
00:28:31,027 --> 00:28:32,827
Speaker 3: them all, we just can't read them all out. Let's

595
00:28:32,867 --> 00:28:34,747
Speaker 3: get a breakaway come back after this. Oh one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten to eighty for your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: It'd be Christy quick for Jordi, Barrett voting Barrett Will

601
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Speaker 5: Jordan swings a pass away left wing touch line side

602
00:28:53,187 --> 00:28:56,187
Speaker 5: Reto Yuani swings and left swing right. Hell just a

603
00:28:56,307 --> 00:28:59,707
Speaker 5: meter short. Your Black's putting on pressure. Buddy Propter gets

604
00:28:59,747 --> 00:29:02,587
Speaker 5: a nice pass from Finlay. Christy and the all Blacks

605
00:29:02,627 --> 00:29:03,627
Speaker 5: get their first.

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00:29:03,467 --> 00:29:07,627
Speaker 3: Try eight six eighteen away from mid day? Was all

607
00:29:07,627 --> 00:29:09,707
Speaker 3: looking okay at that point? Wasn't a twenty nine twenty

608
00:29:09,787 --> 00:29:12,667
Speaker 3: three to the Pumas over the All Blacks. If you're

609
00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:13,987
Speaker 3: just joining us today, Chris.

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Speaker 21: You know, mate, how are good things?

611
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Speaker 18: Are you?

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00:29:16,467 --> 00:29:16,627
Speaker 1: Good?

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00:29:16,627 --> 00:29:16,827
Speaker 3: Thanks?

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00:29:16,907 --> 00:29:17,067
Speaker 24: Chris?

615
00:29:18,067 --> 00:29:18,587
Speaker 25: My thoughts?

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Speaker 21: Look, our four pack performed relatively well. I'm happy with

617
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Speaker 21: them over the last couple of tests. You know, when

618
00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:27,667
Speaker 21: we get close to the line, they managed to rumble

619
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Speaker 21: over and score tries. You know, they do well at

620
00:29:31,787 --> 00:29:35,947
Speaker 21: the set peace against a far bigger pack, which is

621
00:29:35,987 --> 00:29:38,907
Speaker 21: a good thing. So I see progress there. But when

622
00:29:38,947 --> 00:29:41,627
Speaker 21: it comes to the backs, what I've noticed in the

623
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Speaker 21: last maybe three or four years with the All Blacks

624
00:29:44,907 --> 00:29:49,987
Speaker 21: is our back line we're not producing the tries like

625
00:29:50,107 --> 00:29:54,587
Speaker 21: we used to. We're scoring with the backs opportunistic tries,

626
00:29:55,387 --> 00:29:57,467
Speaker 21: and I think there's a lack of punch. I mean,

627
00:29:57,667 --> 00:29:59,587
Speaker 21: going back in the day, you know, we yet Manon

628
00:29:59,747 --> 00:30:04,067
Speaker 21: ub and Conrad Smith, et cetera. They were making tries

629
00:30:04,547 --> 00:30:07,587
Speaker 21: in free play, whereas the current crew that we have

630
00:30:07,747 --> 00:30:11,427
Speaker 21: playing right now are being shut down by everybody you

631
00:30:11,507 --> 00:30:13,347
Speaker 21: know in the top four or five in the world.

632
00:30:13,467 --> 00:30:14,907
Speaker 21: So I think we're going to have a lot of that.

633
00:30:14,987 --> 00:30:17,107
Speaker 21: I mean, another thing is I don't know why we

634
00:30:17,227 --> 00:30:21,707
Speaker 21: haven't dayboot the Otago Playoff five. Sorry the Highlanders player

635
00:30:22,267 --> 00:30:22,987
Speaker 21: at Tava.

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Speaker 3: Tava sorry ta ta Now he has day boot he

637
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:31,027
Speaker 3: yep he played, Yep. No, he played off the bench

638
00:30:31,387 --> 00:30:36,347
Speaker 3: in well in Wellington and Hamilton against France. Okay, so yeah,

639
00:30:36,707 --> 00:30:37,987
Speaker 3: but he is there.

640
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Speaker 21: I want to see him start a game at twelve,

641
00:30:42,187 --> 00:30:45,227
Speaker 21: Jordy at thirteen. I want to see Will Jordan moves

642
00:30:45,627 --> 00:30:48,987
Speaker 21: to the right wing until Caleb gets back, Reese on

643
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Speaker 21: the left and Reuben Love at fallback. Because yeah, I

644
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Speaker 21: love Will Jordan because I'm a one eyed Cantabrian, but

645
00:30:55,907 --> 00:30:58,907
Speaker 21: under the high ball and international rugby, he's just not

646
00:30:59,587 --> 00:31:03,747
Speaker 21: doing it. I mean, game after game after game, he

647
00:31:03,947 --> 00:31:08,107
Speaker 21: is not winning the percentage catch as a fallback. And

648
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:11,627
Speaker 21: that's the most important thing for a fallback is, as

649
00:31:11,867 --> 00:31:14,907
Speaker 21: previous callers have said, absolute weakness for the old beets.

650
00:31:14,947 --> 00:31:17,147
Speaker 21: If I'm a South African in two weeks, what I'm

651
00:31:17,187 --> 00:31:19,187
Speaker 21: going to do. I'm going to put half back bombs

652
00:31:19,267 --> 00:31:22,267
Speaker 21: up all day and just hammer hammer, hammer, hammer hammer.

653
00:31:22,707 --> 00:31:25,387
Speaker 21: So I think we need to adapt and give other

654
00:31:25,427 --> 00:31:28,027
Speaker 21: guys an opportunity. Two years out from a World Cup.

655
00:31:28,187 --> 00:31:30,627
Speaker 21: This is the year to breed guys into the team

656
00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:33,227
Speaker 21: that are going to be there. So this is the

657
00:31:33,307 --> 00:31:37,147
Speaker 21: time to shine. And you know, give the selectors a

658
00:31:37,187 --> 00:31:39,467
Speaker 21: little bit of a headache if we keep down with

659
00:31:39,507 --> 00:31:43,267
Speaker 21: this trajectory. We've got a dud backline. We're not punching

660
00:31:43,387 --> 00:31:44,067
Speaker 21: through holes.

661
00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:48,347
Speaker 3: Just on the move of Will Jordan. If he moved

662
00:31:48,347 --> 00:31:50,107
Speaker 3: to the wing, he'd still be the subject of an

663
00:31:50,147 --> 00:31:53,787
Speaker 3: aerial aerial bombardment. Chris, I think you know, they talk

664
00:31:53,787 --> 00:31:56,827
Speaker 3: about the back three almost being interchangeable. I take your point,

665
00:31:56,907 --> 00:31:59,467
Speaker 3: but I think you know, whether you move Will Jordan

666
00:31:59,587 --> 00:32:03,907
Speaker 3: or not. I think the greater work on is his

667
00:32:04,507 --> 00:32:07,387
Speaker 3: aerial game. And look, he's a very intense elligent rugby player.

668
00:32:07,747 --> 00:32:10,587
Speaker 3: I'm sure that under the right guidance he would improve

669
00:32:10,627 --> 00:32:12,867
Speaker 3: in that area, and I'm sure he's doing a high

670
00:32:12,907 --> 00:32:16,867
Speaker 3: degree of self reflection on it. But yeah, and now

671
00:32:16,907 --> 00:32:20,387
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they've worked out the best back three. Yeah,

672
00:32:20,427 --> 00:32:23,147
Speaker 3: I'm not sold on en Rico Yoanni on the wing.

673
00:32:24,627 --> 00:32:25,907
Speaker 3: Just Shane Caleb Clark.

674
00:32:25,747 --> 00:32:29,627
Speaker 21: Isn't there, you know, absolutely like Cayler Clark. Like for me,

675
00:32:30,107 --> 00:32:32,747
Speaker 21: he's got that John o Lomu factor in a way

676
00:32:33,107 --> 00:32:35,267
Speaker 21: that one on one he can bash a bloke over.

677
00:32:36,507 --> 00:32:38,827
Speaker 21: And I look forward to his return, even though he's

678
00:32:38,827 --> 00:32:43,507
Speaker 21: from Aukland, so I hadn't thrown it in there, but

679
00:32:43,627 --> 00:32:48,827
Speaker 21: I see his just absolute damaging capability, and you know,

680
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:52,827
Speaker 21: riccu Yani doesn't have that anymore. He used to be

681
00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:55,267
Speaker 21: an absolute speeds to maybe he's off the pace a

682
00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:58,387
Speaker 21: little bit or a bit tensive of you know, he's

683
00:32:58,427 --> 00:33:01,067
Speaker 21: great defensively, I'll give him that really good tackler. No

684
00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:04,987
Speaker 21: one gets past him, but just an attack, he just

685
00:33:05,947 --> 00:33:08,547
Speaker 21: he just doesn't have the go forward that we require

686
00:33:08,627 --> 00:33:11,667
Speaker 21: from a left winger. And we've been used to really

687
00:33:11,707 --> 00:33:15,227
Speaker 21: good wingers in New Zealand, and I think when they

688
00:33:15,267 --> 00:33:18,747
Speaker 21: moved him to center, they sort of pulled that out

689
00:33:18,787 --> 00:33:21,187
Speaker 21: of his game. And now we're seeing the reward of

690
00:33:21,227 --> 00:33:24,107
Speaker 21: him being stuck at center for so many years. So

691
00:33:24,867 --> 00:33:28,987
Speaker 21: I think his days, you know, his days are coming, unfortunately,

692
00:33:29,067 --> 00:33:30,707
Speaker 21: but he's had a good career. I'll give him that.

693
00:33:31,347 --> 00:33:33,467
Speaker 3: Good on you, Chris, thanks for calling him mate. Yeah, look,

694
00:33:33,587 --> 00:33:36,987
Speaker 3: I think there's certainly some thinking to do around selection

695
00:33:37,107 --> 00:33:39,907
Speaker 3: of the back three. I'd keep Will Jordan at fallback.

696
00:33:39,987 --> 00:33:42,707
Speaker 3: I absolutely would. I think that's his position and that's

697
00:33:42,707 --> 00:33:45,187
Speaker 3: where I would play him. But I think the eleven

698
00:33:45,267 --> 00:33:48,827
Speaker 3: and fourteen jumpers are well and truly up for grabs,

699
00:33:49,227 --> 00:33:51,387
Speaker 3: well and truly up for grabs, not just now, but

700
00:33:51,507 --> 00:33:53,507
Speaker 3: over the next couple of years. I don't think with

701
00:33:53,707 --> 00:33:56,027
Speaker 3: any degree of certainty you could say who's going to

702
00:33:56,027 --> 00:33:57,307
Speaker 3: start for the All Blacks in the first game of

703
00:33:57,387 --> 00:34:00,147
Speaker 3: the next Rugby World Cup on the wings? You know,

704
00:34:00,347 --> 00:34:02,867
Speaker 3: you think about when George Bridge came into the side.

705
00:34:02,867 --> 00:34:05,227
Speaker 3: I think with sevu Reese said, head of the twenty

706
00:34:05,387 --> 00:34:08,587
Speaker 3: nineteen Rugby World Cup. You know that hardly played, but

707
00:34:08,627 --> 00:34:10,867
Speaker 3: they were the hot hand, A pot of ham up,

708
00:34:11,147 --> 00:34:15,227
Speaker 3: Hello mate, beautiful.

709
00:34:14,947 --> 00:34:15,787
Speaker 19: Day A well he's today.

710
00:34:17,747 --> 00:34:18,507
Speaker 26: Just just think start.

711
00:34:20,107 --> 00:34:21,907
Speaker 19: I haven't called you for a couple of months, and

712
00:34:22,107 --> 00:34:24,067
Speaker 19: the last time was when old Scott Robertson was on

713
00:34:25,147 --> 00:34:31,747
Speaker 19: and I asked him the question about kick reception, kick diffusing,

714
00:34:32,467 --> 00:34:36,147
Speaker 19: kick chase and he didn't really answer it and his

715
00:34:36,307 --> 00:34:38,867
Speaker 19: team are still not answering it on the field and

716
00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:40,147
Speaker 19: it's killing.

717
00:34:40,027 --> 00:34:42,187
Speaker 21: Us and you.

718
00:34:44,787 --> 00:34:47,947
Speaker 19: I just don't and it's too late. We've had two

719
00:34:48,027 --> 00:34:49,827
Speaker 19: months to maybe get a bit better at it.

720
00:34:50,147 --> 00:34:53,547
Speaker 8: There's a little guys, like Delgy, how's he catching the ball?

721
00:34:53,587 --> 00:34:54,427
Speaker 13: He's five foot two?

722
00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:55,227
Speaker 4: You know.

723
00:34:55,507 --> 00:35:00,507
Speaker 19: So it's like we have the I might be catastrophied,

724
00:35:00,587 --> 00:35:03,587
Speaker 19: but we have the worst kick reception, kick chase game

725
00:35:04,027 --> 00:35:08,187
Speaker 19: of any of these top teams going around. And why

726
00:35:08,267 --> 00:35:10,747
Speaker 19: aren't they fixed in it? It's obvious, right if a

727
00:35:10,787 --> 00:35:13,427
Speaker 19: punter like me can said then who's never played women,

728
00:35:14,427 --> 00:35:17,787
Speaker 19: even senior rugby? Why are they not fixing it? Why

729
00:35:17,787 --> 00:35:20,867
Speaker 19: are they practicing the school set? And on our backs? Man,

730
00:35:20,947 --> 00:35:25,147
Speaker 19: they don't look confident either. They just they don't look

731
00:35:25,147 --> 00:35:28,467
Speaker 19: confident on d they don't look confident in attack. And

732
00:35:28,547 --> 00:35:30,667
Speaker 19: they were the same last year to a large degree.

733
00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:34,387
Speaker 19: So and now the Box are going to roll into town.

734
00:35:34,427 --> 00:35:36,747
Speaker 19: And that game this morning was a kick fest and

735
00:35:36,827 --> 00:35:39,267
Speaker 19: a kickchase fest. And you know, Osi do quite well

736
00:35:39,307 --> 00:35:41,427
Speaker 19: at it and compete pretty well, but you know guys

737
00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:43,547
Speaker 19: like Chessl and Colby he's a bit of a master

738
00:35:43,627 --> 00:35:46,307
Speaker 19: in the kick chase. Yeah, Pinney, she's going to be

739
00:35:46,387 --> 00:35:47,907
Speaker 19: a big test match in a couple of weeks.

740
00:35:48,227 --> 00:35:48,467
Speaker 18: It is.

741
00:35:48,667 --> 00:35:51,867
Speaker 3: It's massive, yeah. And the aerial game, it is, it's

742
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:55,387
Speaker 3: just become a vulnerability and now it'll be a target.

743
00:35:55,707 --> 00:35:57,667
Speaker 3: Is just I mean they're just gonna the ceth ebrig

744
00:35:57,747 --> 00:35:59,307
Speaker 3: will come into town and just and they will. They'll

745
00:35:59,347 --> 00:36:02,387
Speaker 3: have an aerial game that they you know that they

746
00:36:03,027 --> 00:36:05,587
Speaker 3: employed at Eden Park and probably in Wellington as well

747
00:36:05,947 --> 00:36:08,707
Speaker 3: because the sense of vulnerability there. As Anstram said during

748
00:36:08,747 --> 00:36:10,747
Speaker 3: our radio commentary, if you if you catch the first

749
00:36:10,787 --> 00:36:12,627
Speaker 3: three or four, they stopped doing it and look for

750
00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:15,627
Speaker 3: another way. But if they are contesting and we're not

751
00:36:15,747 --> 00:36:18,907
Speaker 3: diffusing and not receiving, well, then they'll keep doing it

752
00:36:18,947 --> 00:36:21,547
Speaker 3: because they'll get change out of it, as Argentina did

753
00:36:21,627 --> 00:36:22,107
Speaker 3: this morning.

754
00:36:24,907 --> 00:36:28,107
Speaker 19: Yeah, and I don't want to kick a guy, but

755
00:36:28,747 --> 00:36:30,907
Speaker 19: and they'll mate. Just before talking about Reeks D, but

756
00:36:31,347 --> 00:36:34,147
Speaker 19: even this morning, okay, we had so many guys off

757
00:36:34,187 --> 00:36:37,667
Speaker 19: the field. So yeah, even as D was a bit

758
00:36:37,907 --> 00:36:41,347
Speaker 19: useless today. But yeah, his offense, it's almost like playing

759
00:36:41,427 --> 00:36:44,147
Speaker 19: center ruined him as a winger. It seems like, yeah,

760
00:36:44,147 --> 00:36:44,387
Speaker 19: well he.

761
00:36:44,787 --> 00:36:46,587
Speaker 3: Went all on senate, didn't he He went all in

762
00:36:46,707 --> 00:36:48,667
Speaker 3: on center, and when he was playing in the centers

763
00:36:48,787 --> 00:36:51,347
Speaker 3: or playing at center, he just almost refused to entertain

764
00:36:51,387 --> 00:36:53,227
Speaker 3: the idea of going back to the wing. It's only

765
00:36:53,227 --> 00:36:55,747
Speaker 3: the emergence of Billy Proctor who that that has basically

766
00:36:56,347 --> 00:36:58,587
Speaker 3: you know, necessitated this. But they don't have to pick

767
00:36:58,707 --> 00:37:00,867
Speaker 3: Rico Ywani on the wing if they don't want to.

768
00:37:00,987 --> 00:37:03,187
Speaker 3: I mean that's obvious. They could they could go a

769
00:37:03,267 --> 00:37:06,107
Speaker 3: different way. They could have given Carter a game Nadawah

770
00:37:06,707 --> 00:37:09,467
Speaker 3: even Ruben Love. It's it's like I say, though, Padahama,

771
00:37:09,547 --> 00:37:13,107
Speaker 3: It's it's too late now. You know, there's no more

772
00:37:13,147 --> 00:37:13,747
Speaker 3: Gaffer time.

773
00:37:13,827 --> 00:37:17,307
Speaker 19: It's boom for time, unleash boom for Edam Park. He's

774
00:37:17,347 --> 00:37:21,787
Speaker 19: a him and Sevu because the energy guys, the energy

775
00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:25,667
Speaker 19: over the ruck that you know what, they bring some energy,

776
00:37:25,747 --> 00:37:28,187
Speaker 19: those two boys. And then I feel like our backland

777
00:37:28,227 --> 00:37:28,947
Speaker 19: needs at the moment.

778
00:37:29,627 --> 00:37:32,627
Speaker 3: Indeed, enjoy the sunshine of Padahama. Good to Chetty has

779
00:37:32,627 --> 00:37:34,307
Speaker 3: always make Nine and a half to midday News talks

780
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Speaker 3: There be back in a moment.

781
00:37:36,427 --> 00:37:39,827
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call oh eight

782
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

783
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Speaker 2: Fine and GJ.

784
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Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's first trusted home builder, News talks

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786
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Speaker 3: Seven to midday. Jason Holland, assistant coach of the All Blacks,

787
00:37:51,787 --> 00:37:54,347
Speaker 3: were one offs with us. After midday here is Scott

788
00:37:54,547 --> 00:37:58,067
Speaker 3: robertson with some brief postmatch thoughts. I could see of

789
00:37:58,147 --> 00:37:59,107
Speaker 3: our friends at sky.

790
00:37:59,867 --> 00:38:02,467
Speaker 27: God rubbers on, well, racer, what can you tell me

791
00:38:02,507 --> 00:38:03,107
Speaker 27: how about the game?

792
00:38:04,067 --> 00:38:07,867
Speaker 28: Great Argentina played with a lot of passion the wan

793
00:38:08,427 --> 00:38:11,027
Speaker 28: and a lot of execution, So well done to them.

794
00:38:11,507 --> 00:38:14,747
Speaker 28: Congratulations it's the first thing, and yeah that hurts.

795
00:38:15,427 --> 00:38:16,867
Speaker 8: It's tough execution.

796
00:38:17,187 --> 00:38:20,187
Speaker 3: Why we practiced all week when you.

797
00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:24,427
Speaker 28: Was coming eerily new kickoffs? That's good, that's a good question.

798
00:38:24,507 --> 00:38:25,707
Speaker 28: I'm not sure I can answer it right now.

799
00:38:25,747 --> 00:38:25,907
Speaker 8: Why.

800
00:38:26,267 --> 00:38:28,587
Speaker 18: Uh, we wanted to play with.

801
00:38:30,067 --> 00:38:31,947
Speaker 28: A lot more care than that then, you know, for

802
00:38:32,347 --> 00:38:34,147
Speaker 28: Cody and put Ash show and finish this tour, and

803
00:38:34,867 --> 00:38:35,747
Speaker 28: we didn't get that way.

804
00:38:35,827 --> 00:38:39,547
Speaker 3: So it wasn't it wasn't what we wanted.

805
00:38:39,587 --> 00:38:40,427
Speaker 18: We're gonna have to look deep.

806
00:38:41,387 --> 00:38:43,627
Speaker 24: Three yellow cards in this kind of game.

807
00:38:43,547 --> 00:38:47,267
Speaker 3: Is this is what happens? Just hands out? Yeah, exactly,

808
00:38:47,627 --> 00:38:48,507
Speaker 3: three yellow cards.

809
00:38:49,107 --> 00:38:51,587
Speaker 28: They kicked all their penalties. We fought our way back

810
00:38:51,627 --> 00:38:53,187
Speaker 28: into the game, but we went holding the ball for

811
00:38:53,267 --> 00:38:54,027
Speaker 28: long periods of time.

812
00:38:54,587 --> 00:38:57,547
Speaker 8: An overall, thinking about these two games here in Argentina.

813
00:38:58,107 --> 00:39:02,307
Speaker 28: Ah, just this competition is tough. I think you can

814
00:39:02,347 --> 00:39:04,027
Speaker 28: realize with all the results to date so.

815
00:39:04,147 --> 00:39:06,067
Speaker 18: Far, that anyone can win. On the day, you're going

816
00:39:06,107 --> 00:39:07,067
Speaker 18: to be eat.

817
00:39:06,907 --> 00:39:08,507
Speaker 6: Your best more than ever.

818
00:39:09,587 --> 00:39:12,467
Speaker 3: Yes, this the score, that's.

819
00:39:12,347 --> 00:39:15,427
Speaker 28: What the table looks like now, doesn't it That anyone

820
00:39:15,507 --> 00:39:18,467
Speaker 28: can win and that's what the competition want about, and

821
00:39:18,547 --> 00:39:19,187
Speaker 28: we're going to be better.

822
00:39:19,547 --> 00:39:20,627
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, thank you.

823
00:39:20,707 --> 00:39:24,827
Speaker 3: That is Scott Robertson shortly after full time. Hello, Jeff

824
00:39:26,267 --> 00:39:27,427
Speaker 3: pay Good morning, Jason.

825
00:39:27,787 --> 00:39:29,307
Speaker 13: I don't know that was my query.

826
00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:33,507
Speaker 29: Nobody's mentioned Robinson. I've got my doubts about him, and

827
00:39:33,907 --> 00:39:36,387
Speaker 29: I think there's a few players that need replace him

828
00:39:36,387 --> 00:39:40,947
Speaker 29: with young blood now and he's not. I don't think

829
00:39:40,987 --> 00:39:43,387
Speaker 29: he's made out or turning out to be what what

830
00:39:43,507 --> 00:39:45,827
Speaker 29: everyone thought he was going to be the Cracker Jet coach,

831
00:39:46,267 --> 00:39:48,427
Speaker 29: and I think he's got to answer some questions now

832
00:39:48,747 --> 00:39:51,427
Speaker 29: about these positions of players met.

833
00:39:52,067 --> 00:39:54,267
Speaker 8: But thanks Jason, I appreciate good.

834
00:39:54,187 --> 00:39:56,627
Speaker 30: To listen to you. And that's my thoughts anyway.

835
00:39:57,307 --> 00:40:00,147
Speaker 3: Very succinct and points well made. Jeff. I'm a big

836
00:40:00,227 --> 00:40:02,907
Speaker 3: part of coaching a selection, right, huge part of coaching

837
00:40:02,947 --> 00:40:06,907
Speaker 3: a selection. And Scott Robinson, I think probably fair to

838
00:40:06,907 --> 00:40:10,547
Speaker 3: say he's been conservative with his selections. He has given

839
00:40:10,587 --> 00:40:13,147
Speaker 3: a lot of guy's debuts last year in particular and

840
00:40:13,227 --> 00:40:16,947
Speaker 3: this year as well. But in terms of the you know,

841
00:40:17,347 --> 00:40:21,547
Speaker 3: I don't think we've seen some real innovation in selections.

842
00:40:21,987 --> 00:40:23,667
Speaker 3: But then again, I look at two Pervai playing at

843
00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:26,187
Speaker 3: six for example, Simon Parker coming in for this game.

844
00:40:27,107 --> 00:40:29,867
Speaker 3: So yes, selection is going to be a massive part

845
00:40:29,947 --> 00:40:32,027
Speaker 3: of the build up to the South African game.

846
00:40:32,067 --> 00:40:35,507
Speaker 26: Good day, Calvin, Good morning Jason. I listened to the

847
00:40:35,947 --> 00:40:40,307
Speaker 26: game on ZBY Radio and what surprised me amazed me

848
00:40:40,387 --> 00:40:43,947
Speaker 26: in a way with the score line going from thirteen

849
00:40:44,227 --> 00:40:48,507
Speaker 26: six to the Orblecks to thirteen twenty six to Argentina.

850
00:40:48,827 --> 00:40:51,147
Speaker 26: And I was curious when it was the last time

851
00:40:51,787 --> 00:40:54,747
Speaker 26: the Orbles had twenty unanswered points against them.

852
00:40:56,387 --> 00:41:00,827
Speaker 3: I'm sure that somebody will know, Kelvin. Look, yeah, I

853
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,987
Speaker 3: don't know the answer is the answer. I'll check though,

854
00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:08,587
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's thirteen all at halftime. The yellow cards

855
00:41:08,627 --> 00:41:13,427
Speaker 3: obviously just before halftime hurt. And yeah, there's a lot

856
00:41:13,467 --> 00:41:15,627
Speaker 3: of things to drill down into a couple of texts

857
00:41:15,627 --> 00:41:19,307
Speaker 3: before we go to the news. Credit to Argentina says

858
00:41:19,347 --> 00:41:22,587
Speaker 3: Nathan is this their best rugby yet ever? Already went

859
00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:24,947
Speaker 3: over the lines. Now the all Blacks at home, nothing

860
00:41:25,027 --> 00:41:28,707
Speaker 3: but stoked for them, and the genuine revival of international

861
00:41:28,787 --> 00:41:32,907
Speaker 3: rugby and Nathan's dead right there and the rush to

862
00:41:33,107 --> 00:41:36,627
Speaker 3: try and analyze and All Blacks lost. We do sometimes

863
00:41:36,667 --> 00:41:39,907
Speaker 3: forget to give credit to the opposition and Argentina right

864
00:41:39,987 --> 00:41:44,067
Speaker 3: from the start this morning were into it, right into it.

865
00:41:44,147 --> 00:41:46,467
Speaker 3: And I thought when they came out firing, yeah, of

866
00:41:46,507 --> 00:41:49,507
Speaker 3: course they're always emotional when they start games. The anthem

867
00:41:50,267 --> 00:41:53,027
Speaker 3: stirs them up, doesn't it, and they come out firing.

868
00:41:53,147 --> 00:41:55,547
Speaker 3: But the All Blacks more often than not in the

869
00:41:55,627 --> 00:41:58,867
Speaker 3: past have soaked that up. Yes, maybe you know, gone

870
00:41:58,947 --> 00:42:00,827
Speaker 3: behind early in games, but have found a way back

871
00:42:00,867 --> 00:42:03,987
Speaker 3: in and they did today up until the yellow cards

872
00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:07,027
Speaker 3: just before halftime, which I think we're a bit of

873
00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:11,747
Speaker 3: a turning point, weren't they news at midday and then

874
00:42:11,867 --> 00:42:14,707
Speaker 3: weekend sport continues. Jason Holland, assistant coach of the side,

875
00:42:14,747 --> 00:42:15,787
Speaker 3: is with us straight after.

876
00:42:15,627 --> 00:42:19,307
Speaker 31: Twelve hea this week I went to New Zealand blood

877
00:42:19,427 --> 00:42:21,707
Speaker 31: and I gave plasma. It was the first time I've

878
00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:23,307
Speaker 31: ever done it. And I tell you what, I have

879
00:42:24,027 --> 00:42:26,747
Speaker 31: never been so appreciated in all my life. If you're

880
00:42:26,787 --> 00:42:30,067
Speaker 31: feeling sort of like no one's appreciating you. These days,

881
00:42:30,227 --> 00:42:35,107
Speaker 31: go and give blood or plasma. They are hugely desperate

882
00:42:35,627 --> 00:42:39,267
Speaker 31: for both. Giving blood it look the process takes about

883
00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,387
Speaker 31: five to ten minutes. Takes about an hour in total

884
00:42:41,467 --> 00:42:43,547
Speaker 31: though to sort of get organized at the beginning and

885
00:42:43,627 --> 00:42:45,387
Speaker 31: to make sure you're okay afterwards, and you will be

886
00:42:45,387 --> 00:42:48,867
Speaker 31: absolutely fine. The plasma takes about an hour and a half.

887
00:42:49,107 --> 00:42:52,027
Speaker 31: You can do plasma every two weeks. You can only

888
00:42:52,067 --> 00:42:55,427
Speaker 31: give blood every three months. It's only four times a year.

889
00:42:56,147 --> 00:42:56,907
Speaker 3: But I'm not kidding.

890
00:42:56,987 --> 00:42:59,867
Speaker 31: I got embarrassed at how many people came up to

891
00:42:59,947 --> 00:43:01,827
Speaker 31: thank me for what I was doing, which was a

892
00:43:01,947 --> 00:43:05,787
Speaker 31: very simple, easy thing to do, hugely very well looked

893
00:43:05,827 --> 00:43:10,027
Speaker 31: after the teas and Bickie's and everyone's in there treating

894
00:43:10,107 --> 00:43:11,347
Speaker 31: you like is saying to And I actually got a

895
00:43:11,347 --> 00:43:14,947
Speaker 31: little bit embarrassed, but you could kind of feel the desperation.

896
00:43:15,507 --> 00:43:19,107
Speaker 31: If you have a moment, jump online go to nzblood

897
00:43:19,107 --> 00:43:21,707
Speaker 31: dot co dot enz As I said, they desperately need blood,

898
00:43:22,027 --> 00:43:25,627
Speaker 31: they desperately need plasma, and you know God for that

899
00:43:25,827 --> 00:43:28,587
Speaker 31: You or a family member or a friend may need them.

900
00:43:28,627 --> 00:43:31,267
Speaker 31: But you never know when this may happen, So it'll

901
00:43:31,307 --> 00:43:33,867
Speaker 31: be wonderful if you've got an opportunity, go do it.

902
00:43:34,267 --> 00:43:36,227
Speaker 3: They will love you for it.

903
00:43:37,027 --> 00:43:41,827
Speaker 31: Nzblood dot co dot NZ. Right. We've got a couple

904
00:43:41,867 --> 00:43:46,267
Speaker 31: of weeks off because Rugby your blacks are playing Argentina,

905
00:43:46,307 --> 00:43:48,587
Speaker 31: so we've got no shows on the seventeenth or twenty fourth.

906
00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:50,307
Speaker 31: We're going to be back on the thirty first with

907
00:43:50,507 --> 00:43:53,667
Speaker 31: the Bets. Awesome key we band here some old school

908
00:43:53,747 --> 00:43:54,547
Speaker 31: music from the Bets.

909
00:43:54,587 --> 00:43:55,867
Speaker 3: This is future. Me hates Me.

910
00:43:56,307 --> 00:43:58,947
Speaker 31: Jason Pine is up next. Thank you for being with us,

911
00:43:58,987 --> 00:44:01,107
Speaker 31: Thank you to care for dressing the show, Take care

912
00:44:01,107 --> 00:44:02,027
Speaker 31: of you in a couple of weeks.

913
00:44:19,307 --> 00:44:23,467
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

914
00:44:24,267 --> 00:44:29,147
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

915
00:44:29,307 --> 00:44:33,067
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyne on your home of Sport

916
00:44:33,547 --> 00:44:34,427
Speaker 1: News Talks at be.

917
00:44:36,147 --> 00:44:38,227
Speaker 3: A good afternoon and welcome into week Kene Sport on

918
00:44:38,267 --> 00:44:39,947
Speaker 3: News Talks at B twelve oh seven.

919
00:44:40,147 --> 00:44:43,707
Speaker 5: And it is over twenty nine to twenty three. And

920
00:44:43,987 --> 00:44:49,187
Speaker 5: what a side is is bouncing Argentina. They did it

921
00:44:49,307 --> 00:44:53,027
Speaker 5: in Paramatta, they did it in christ Church, they did

922
00:44:53,067 --> 00:44:57,027
Speaker 5: it in Wellington, but now they do it's in their capital.

923
00:44:57,707 --> 00:45:01,827
Speaker 3: Yes, Indeed, history made in Buona series. This morning, Argentina

924
00:45:01,907 --> 00:45:03,667
Speaker 3: have beaten the All Blacks for the first time on

925
00:45:03,827 --> 00:45:08,227
Speaker 3: home soil twenty nine, twenty three. That means that after

926
00:45:08,267 --> 00:45:10,907
Speaker 3: two rounds of the Rugby Championship, all four teams have

927
00:45:10,987 --> 00:45:13,187
Speaker 3: a win and a loss. The All Blacks pick up

928
00:45:13,187 --> 00:45:16,027
Speaker 3: a bonus point from that late penalty from Damien McKenzie

929
00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:20,787
Speaker 3: which got them to within seven. But big challenges in coming,

930
00:45:20,987 --> 00:45:24,107
Speaker 3: massive challenges in coming from South Africa and from Australia.

931
00:45:24,827 --> 00:45:26,707
Speaker 3: Let's not beat around the bush. This could be the

932
00:45:26,827 --> 00:45:32,787
Speaker 3: closest Rugby Championship in many, many years. Oh, eight hundred

933
00:45:32,787 --> 00:45:34,467
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is our phone number. Lines have

934
00:45:34,547 --> 00:45:37,307
Speaker 3: been opened since full time and we couldn't get everybody

935
00:45:37,347 --> 00:45:39,627
Speaker 3: on the air before twelve. We'll give it a crack.

936
00:45:40,307 --> 00:45:43,307
Speaker 3: We'll certainly give it a crack. They're open the lines

937
00:45:43,307 --> 00:45:45,347
Speaker 3: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty anything you want

938
00:45:45,347 --> 00:45:50,867
Speaker 3: to pick up on. Look, there's plenty to unpack here. Messy,

939
00:45:50,947 --> 00:45:55,787
Speaker 3: scrappy performance and accuracy ill disciplined. Three yellow cards penalty

940
00:45:55,827 --> 00:45:59,027
Speaker 3: has given away in dangerous positions. Lots of work to

941
00:45:59,147 --> 00:46:01,827
Speaker 3: do in the air. The aerial battle is just so

942
00:46:01,947 --> 00:46:04,587
Speaker 3: important these days and the All Blacks ain't winning it.

943
00:46:05,507 --> 00:46:10,387
Speaker 3: They're not winning their battle. So rugby is our focus

944
00:46:10,427 --> 00:46:11,947
Speaker 3: for the first hour of the show. We also look,

945
00:46:12,027 --> 00:46:14,467
Speaker 3: let's not forget the Warriors. Let's not forget the Warriors.

946
00:46:14,547 --> 00:46:17,627
Speaker 3: We don't, we will not forget. Then I went last

947
00:46:17,707 --> 00:46:19,507
Speaker 3: night on the Gold Coast. It looked like a home game,

948
00:46:19,547 --> 00:46:21,987
Speaker 3: didn't it. So many Kiwis on the Gold Coast loved it,

949
00:46:22,307 --> 00:46:25,387
Speaker 3: absolutely loved it. And the Warriors getting the one back

950
00:46:25,427 --> 00:46:27,347
Speaker 3: to back, they keep their top four destiny in their

951
00:46:27,387 --> 00:46:29,627
Speaker 3: own hands. They'll have a far more pleasant flight home,

952
00:46:29,667 --> 00:46:33,467
Speaker 3: I'm sure from the Gold Coast. Stacy Jones gonna chat

953
00:46:33,507 --> 00:46:35,027
Speaker 3: to us after one before they hop on the plane.

954
00:46:35,027 --> 00:46:37,307
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the Warriors as well, And a bit

955
00:46:37,427 --> 00:46:40,947
Speaker 3: later on this afternoon, we'll celebrate White Kato's winning of

956
00:46:40,987 --> 00:46:45,787
Speaker 3: the rain Fully Shield. Another terrific moment of sporting drama

957
00:46:46,347 --> 00:46:50,787
Speaker 3: in Taranaki yesterday, with Limosopowanga lining up the match winning

958
00:46:50,827 --> 00:46:53,827
Speaker 3: penalty ball fell off the tee with only ten seconds

959
00:46:53,867 --> 00:46:56,507
Speaker 3: to go, very calmly put it back on the nailed

960
00:46:56,507 --> 00:46:59,227
Speaker 3: it and the log is headed to the tron. So yeah,

961
00:46:59,267 --> 00:47:02,787
Speaker 3: Mulu fans, we can celebrate that as well. Lines openers

962
00:47:02,827 --> 00:47:04,667
Speaker 3: a day all afternoon on oh eight hundred and eighty

963
00:47:04,747 --> 00:47:08,987
Speaker 3: ten eighty nine nine for your text messages, but let's

964
00:47:09,027 --> 00:47:11,467
Speaker 3: get you to Argentina up and get a reaction out

965
00:47:11,507 --> 00:47:14,507
Speaker 3: of the All Blacks camp. All Blacks assistant coach Jason

966
00:47:14,547 --> 00:47:17,187
Speaker 3: Holland is with us now. Jason, thanks for your time.

967
00:47:17,707 --> 00:47:20,307
Speaker 3: What is front of mind as you reflect on the

968
00:47:20,427 --> 00:47:21,307
Speaker 3: performance tonight?

969
00:47:22,547 --> 00:47:24,307
Speaker 32: Look, there's lots of things, friend of mine obviously, just

970
00:47:25,027 --> 00:47:30,387
Speaker 32: ultimately really disappointed and in performance. You know, Argentinians played

971
00:47:30,427 --> 00:47:33,507
Speaker 32: some good footy, but you know where we're seeing them

972
00:47:33,547 --> 00:47:36,347
Speaker 32: has a lot of areas tonight and it cost.

973
00:47:36,187 --> 00:47:38,867
Speaker 3: Us which areas in particular?

974
00:47:40,307 --> 00:47:42,907
Speaker 18: Oh, look, mat there was you know a lot of

975
00:47:42,947 --> 00:47:45,707
Speaker 18: areas where we didn't perform where we wanted to.

976
00:47:45,787 --> 00:47:49,907
Speaker 32: Obviously, you know, the Argentinians kicked really well and one

977
00:47:49,947 --> 00:47:53,307
Speaker 32: the year most times, which is which is a massive

978
00:47:53,307 --> 00:47:55,027
Speaker 32: part of the game these days, and as we've seen

979
00:47:55,147 --> 00:47:58,107
Speaker 32: from all the rugby like today with the Sun African

980
00:47:58,107 --> 00:48:01,427
Speaker 32: AUSI game and our game, if you can't win the year,

981
00:48:01,507 --> 00:48:03,347
Speaker 32: then then you loser on a position and you put

982
00:48:03,387 --> 00:48:04,227
Speaker 32: yourself under pressure.

983
00:48:04,267 --> 00:48:07,307
Speaker 18: That's a big point, you know.

984
00:48:07,387 --> 00:48:09,907
Speaker 32: Even like a lot of our attack and our strike

985
00:48:10,227 --> 00:48:11,987
Speaker 32: was you know, some of our line out and stuff

986
00:48:12,147 --> 00:48:15,267
Speaker 32: was off for our execution, which meant we couldn't build pressure.

987
00:48:15,347 --> 00:48:19,427
Speaker 32: And Nick Berry has always been a referee who who

988
00:48:19,867 --> 00:48:22,947
Speaker 32: you know, gives advantage for the people the team with

989
00:48:23,107 --> 00:48:25,427
Speaker 32: ball in hand, and because of those two reasons, we

990
00:48:25,467 --> 00:48:27,627
Speaker 32: didn't have it and cost us.

991
00:48:27,907 --> 00:48:31,867
Speaker 18: So you know, there's still three key areas. And then yeah,

992
00:48:32,267 --> 00:48:35,267
Speaker 18: not much to not much that we were overly happy with.

993
00:48:36,027 --> 00:48:38,427
Speaker 3: How big a work on is being better in the

994
00:48:38,467 --> 00:48:40,427
Speaker 3: aerial battle, Jase, And how do you do that?

995
00:48:42,227 --> 00:48:45,707
Speaker 32: Yeah, look, it's we've been working pretty hard in the year.

996
00:48:45,827 --> 00:48:47,467
Speaker 32: Just it's it's really important to get up and win

997
00:48:47,507 --> 00:48:50,187
Speaker 32: the collision in the year these days with know as

998
00:48:50,227 --> 00:48:52,707
Speaker 32: the rules have changed and you can't give any protection

999
00:48:52,827 --> 00:48:55,387
Speaker 32: to the catcher. It's a contests, so you've got to

1000
00:48:55,427 --> 00:48:56,907
Speaker 32: be strong in the air. You've got to get higher

1001
00:48:56,907 --> 00:49:00,427
Speaker 32: and be stronger than the opposition. And the Argentinian wingers

1002
00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:05,187
Speaker 32: were outstanding tonight and and won all those contests. So mate,

1003
00:49:05,827 --> 00:49:08,027
Speaker 32: it's a it's a must go forward that we must

1004
00:49:08,067 --> 00:49:10,747
Speaker 32: be stronger in the air and we must win win

1005
00:49:10,827 --> 00:49:12,387
Speaker 32: the possession from from those kicks.

1006
00:49:13,067 --> 00:49:16,507
Speaker 3: Have the back three that that started today. Rico Yuanni

1007
00:49:16,587 --> 00:49:18,747
Speaker 3: severiese Will Jordan. Have they got that in their locker?

1008
00:49:18,827 --> 00:49:21,147
Speaker 3: Are they able to make improvements there?

1009
00:49:22,707 --> 00:49:24,587
Speaker 18: Yeah? I think I think definitely they all are.

1010
00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:27,947
Speaker 32: Like I think you'll find a lot of the time

1011
00:49:28,627 --> 00:49:31,507
Speaker 32: these days in the game, it's it's not necessarily a

1012
00:49:31,587 --> 00:49:33,827
Speaker 32: wingers at times either that are under those high balls

1013
00:49:33,907 --> 00:49:36,947
Speaker 32: with tens and fifteens in the backfield. So it's probably

1014
00:49:36,987 --> 00:49:39,787
Speaker 32: more than more than the back three. It's it's specifically

1015
00:49:39,867 --> 00:49:42,107
Speaker 32: tens and fifteen's a lot of the time when the Argentinians.

1016
00:49:42,267 --> 00:49:45,467
Speaker 32: Argentinians were kicking to us tonight. So everybody here that

1017
00:49:45,507 --> 00:49:47,587
Speaker 32: they have and we have to. You have to if

1018
00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:48,827
Speaker 32: you want to be in the backfield, then we have

1019
00:49:48,907 --> 00:49:50,667
Speaker 32: to be able to win those collisions, as simple as that.

1020
00:49:51,907 --> 00:49:54,067
Speaker 3: How concerning is it that you've been handed five yellow

1021
00:49:54,187 --> 00:49:55,187
Speaker 3: cards and two games?

1022
00:49:56,747 --> 00:50:01,867
Speaker 32: Yeah, hugely, Like it's a it is how discipline needs

1023
00:50:01,907 --> 00:50:04,787
Speaker 32: to be better when we're under pressure, and you know

1024
00:50:04,827 --> 00:50:06,307
Speaker 32: a lot of the other things I've talked around Lee

1025
00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:09,627
Speaker 32: so that as I said tonight and Nick Barry's rewards,

1026
00:50:09,707 --> 00:50:12,067
Speaker 32: the team with the ball, and because of all those

1027
00:50:12,107 --> 00:50:15,827
Speaker 32: other things that we've just talked around around our inaccuracies,

1028
00:50:15,867 --> 00:50:17,347
Speaker 32: it means we spent a lot of time with doubt

1029
00:50:17,387 --> 00:50:20,307
Speaker 32: it and that's what happens in the game these days,

1030
00:50:20,787 --> 00:50:23,027
Speaker 32: so that has to You're not going to win. We're

1031
00:50:23,067 --> 00:50:25,307
Speaker 32: not going to win two games against good opposition with

1032
00:50:25,667 --> 00:50:29,147
Speaker 32: two yellow cards and as you say, five over over

1033
00:50:29,227 --> 00:50:29,627
Speaker 32: the season.

1034
00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:32,787
Speaker 3: Is there a general understanding of the deliberate knock on

1035
00:50:32,907 --> 00:50:34,667
Speaker 3: rule among the players? Do they know what they can

1036
00:50:34,747 --> 00:50:37,427
Speaker 3: and can't do? Yeah, they do.

1037
00:50:37,747 --> 00:50:40,867
Speaker 32: They do in uh, you know, instinctive stuff they need

1038
00:50:40,907 --> 00:50:42,387
Speaker 32: to We need to be better at it. We need

1039
00:50:42,467 --> 00:50:45,107
Speaker 32: to make sure that you know, guys get if they

1040
00:50:45,187 --> 00:50:46,867
Speaker 32: do it in training, they get sent off the field

1041
00:50:46,907 --> 00:50:49,067
Speaker 32: with a little for yellow card for us at the moment.

1042
00:50:49,187 --> 00:50:51,547
Speaker 32: So you know, that's been happening for a few weeks.

1043
00:50:51,627 --> 00:50:54,307
Speaker 32: So now got to be better there too.

1044
00:50:54,387 --> 00:50:58,707
Speaker 3: Pinty and an attack Jason, what what what's your assessment

1045
00:50:58,787 --> 00:51:01,507
Speaker 3: of the way you're playing with ball in hand from

1046
00:51:01,667 --> 00:51:03,187
Speaker 3: from nine out at the moment?

1047
00:51:04,907 --> 00:51:05,067
Speaker 18: Ah?

1048
00:51:05,187 --> 00:51:08,027
Speaker 32: Yeah, Look, the there's a lot of execution stuff tonight

1049
00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:12,467
Speaker 32: where you know, we wanted to spread the Argentinians and play.

1050
00:51:12,347 --> 00:51:14,867
Speaker 18: With a bit of WIT's somewhere.

1051
00:51:14,907 --> 00:51:18,107
Speaker 32: Execution around our line out, delivery and around our skill sets.

1052
00:51:18,427 --> 00:51:20,947
Speaker 32: Didn't let us do that and so it became a battle.

1053
00:51:21,067 --> 00:51:22,547
Speaker 32: We didn't get to play the style of footage that

1054
00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:26,067
Speaker 32: we wanted to. So, yep, we've got to now some

1055
00:51:26,147 --> 00:51:28,627
Speaker 32: skill sets to be able to allow us to use

1056
00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:30,507
Speaker 32: the whole field, and that's it's got to be a

1057
00:51:30,587 --> 00:51:31,867
Speaker 32: massive part of how we go forward.

1058
00:51:32,587 --> 00:51:34,947
Speaker 3: Does it feel disjointed to you? I mean, you're the

1059
00:51:34,947 --> 00:51:36,587
Speaker 3: attack coach. Does it feel disjointed?

1060
00:51:37,827 --> 00:51:41,307
Speaker 32: They look disjointed tonight, Piney. I'll tell you that we

1061
00:51:41,827 --> 00:51:43,187
Speaker 32: feel like we know how we want to play, and

1062
00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:46,867
Speaker 32: we trained pretty well this week and got some real flow.

1063
00:51:48,027 --> 00:51:49,507
Speaker 32: It felt like we had some real flow and how

1064
00:51:49,547 --> 00:51:52,467
Speaker 32: we're going to play and how we're going to play

1065
00:51:52,507 --> 00:51:54,707
Speaker 32: with some wits to open up the middle of the field.

1066
00:51:54,787 --> 00:51:59,747
Speaker 32: But yep, I definitely looked disjointed tonight around our skill sets.

1067
00:52:00,707 --> 00:52:02,867
Speaker 3: You've shared the last four tests with Argentina too, wins

1068
00:52:02,907 --> 00:52:04,827
Speaker 3: a piece over the last couple of years. What makes

1069
00:52:04,867 --> 00:52:06,947
Speaker 3: the modern day pumas such a challenge jing opponent?

1070
00:52:08,307 --> 00:52:11,627
Speaker 32: Yeah, I think that's everybody's talked around. You give them

1071
00:52:11,627 --> 00:52:13,187
Speaker 32: a sniff around a lot of the things we've talked

1072
00:52:13,227 --> 00:52:16,387
Speaker 32: around in the last ten minutes, around giving them the ball,

1073
00:52:16,787 --> 00:52:20,067
Speaker 32: getting them excited around opportunities around, you know, contests in

1074
00:52:20,107 --> 00:52:22,427
Speaker 32: the year and those sorts of things, and they're hard

1075
00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:24,867
Speaker 32: thing to stop. And with the passion of the of

1076
00:52:24,947 --> 00:52:28,427
Speaker 32: the Argentinians, they're you know, you got to you gotta

1077
00:52:28,427 --> 00:52:30,067
Speaker 32: be accurate and sort of stump them out.

1078
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:34,547
Speaker 18: And that's what we didn't do tonight. Yeah.

1079
00:52:34,707 --> 00:52:36,387
Speaker 32: Yeah, you just got to make sure you don't give them,

1080
00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:39,187
Speaker 32: give them anything to give them more energy than they

1081
00:52:39,187 --> 00:52:42,627
Speaker 32: already have, and be accurate as Cortez.

1082
00:52:43,387 --> 00:52:45,307
Speaker 3: Okay, have you got any update for us there?

1083
00:52:46,587 --> 00:52:47,547
Speaker 18: Not sure yet? Not sure.

1084
00:52:47,827 --> 00:52:50,547
Speaker 32: He caught the pretty he caught the pretty good being

1085
00:52:50,747 --> 00:52:54,507
Speaker 32: so I haven't seen yet. Now I haven't got anything

1086
00:52:54,587 --> 00:52:55,787
Speaker 32: on any injury reports yet.

1087
00:52:56,947 --> 00:52:59,067
Speaker 3: And you don't know about about cam roy Guard yet.

1088
00:52:59,107 --> 00:53:01,107
Speaker 3: You'll find it when you get home whether he might

1089
00:53:01,187 --> 00:53:02,307
Speaker 3: be in the mix for South Africa.

1090
00:53:03,787 --> 00:53:05,147
Speaker 18: Ah, yeah, we'll find out when we get home.

1091
00:53:05,187 --> 00:53:07,347
Speaker 32: There'll be no doubt they'll be well to get medical

1092
00:53:07,387 --> 00:53:10,147
Speaker 32: from this game tomorrow morning and before we get on

1093
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:14,627
Speaker 32: the plane and get updated early next week around some

1094
00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:15,307
Speaker 32: of the boys.

1095
00:53:15,147 --> 00:53:17,747
Speaker 3: At home, all right, and the week ahead as you

1096
00:53:17,827 --> 00:53:20,027
Speaker 3: get home, and then do you disperse, do do you

1097
00:53:20,107 --> 00:53:22,107
Speaker 3: disperse for but come back together for South Africa? Or

1098
00:53:22,387 --> 00:53:23,147
Speaker 3: do you stay together?

1099
00:53:24,627 --> 00:53:26,467
Speaker 32: Now we I think we get home at one o'clock

1100
00:53:26,467 --> 00:53:30,147
Speaker 32: in the morning Tuesday morning, I think, and we're back

1101
00:53:30,147 --> 00:53:32,347
Speaker 32: in on Saturday. So home for home for three days

1102
00:53:32,387 --> 00:53:35,027
Speaker 32: pretty much for Tuesday wend, or four days Tuesday to

1103
00:53:35,067 --> 00:53:36,387
Speaker 32: Friday and back in for the weekend.

1104
00:53:37,507 --> 00:53:40,627
Speaker 3: And it's probably this way comes to surprise to you.

1105
00:53:40,707 --> 00:53:43,627
Speaker 3: There's you know, there a few people you know talking

1106
00:53:43,667 --> 00:53:47,067
Speaker 3: about this performance back here. You know, what should we

1107
00:53:47,147 --> 00:53:49,947
Speaker 3: be worried Jace? What you know, what's the what's the

1108
00:53:50,667 --> 00:53:54,347
Speaker 3: you know, the strategy for turning things around here.

1109
00:53:54,427 --> 00:53:58,267
Speaker 32: Look, we'll obviously we'll massively unpack that pack that performance.

1110
00:53:59,387 --> 00:54:00,907
Speaker 18: You know, the cruxes we want to play.

1111
00:54:01,267 --> 00:54:03,947
Speaker 32: We want to play a style of footy that where

1112
00:54:03,947 --> 00:54:05,947
Speaker 32: we can we can play use the ball and we

1113
00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:07,987
Speaker 32: can spread teams then go through them.

1114
00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:10,787
Speaker 18: And at the moment, you know, we've got to.

1115
00:54:10,787 --> 00:54:13,707
Speaker 32: Look hard at how we what what our skill sets

1116
00:54:13,707 --> 00:54:15,507
Speaker 32: are and how we're delivering that to make sure that

1117
00:54:15,507 --> 00:54:18,947
Speaker 32: we play the way we are And yeah, well we'll

1118
00:54:18,947 --> 00:54:20,907
Speaker 32: obviously be working really really hard on the way this

1119
00:54:21,267 --> 00:54:23,987
Speaker 32: week to make sure that we can play the way

1120
00:54:24,067 --> 00:54:26,027
Speaker 32: way we want to play when we play against South Africa.

1121
00:54:26,587 --> 00:54:28,987
Speaker 3: So you're tied to that strategy. You're all in on

1122
00:54:29,067 --> 00:54:32,747
Speaker 3: that strategy. On what strategy is that the one that

1123
00:54:32,827 --> 00:54:35,267
Speaker 3: you just talked about about spreading it wide, wanting to

1124
00:54:35,307 --> 00:54:36,867
Speaker 3: play an expansive game, that sort of thing.

1125
00:54:36,947 --> 00:54:39,147
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, well we want to play. We want to

1126
00:54:39,147 --> 00:54:40,107
Speaker 18: have a good balance in our game.

1127
00:54:40,187 --> 00:54:42,187
Speaker 32: You know, we need to be able to we're anybody

1128
00:54:42,227 --> 00:54:45,387
Speaker 32: to use the whip, and obviously everybody knows if you

1129
00:54:45,467 --> 00:54:46,987
Speaker 32: use the whip, that opens up the field a little

1130
00:54:46,987 --> 00:54:48,907
Speaker 32: bit through the middle. So at the moment we're not

1131
00:54:48,987 --> 00:54:52,547
Speaker 32: getting we're not getting the whips in our game. And yeah,

1132
00:54:52,587 --> 00:54:53,507
Speaker 32: we need to be able to do that.

1133
00:54:54,307 --> 00:54:56,587
Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. Jace, Safe troubles back. We'll see

1134
00:54:56,587 --> 00:54:57,027
Speaker 3: you back here.

1135
00:54:58,227 --> 00:54:59,227
Speaker 18: Thanks mate.

1136
00:55:01,347 --> 00:55:03,947
Speaker 3: Assistant coach of the All Blacks were one off, joining

1137
00:55:04,027 --> 00:55:06,307
Speaker 3: us out of Buenos Aires not long after the Fall

1138
00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:09,427
Speaker 3: Time Whistle twelve eighteen. It is Your thoughts are welcome,

1139
00:55:09,747 --> 00:55:12,187
Speaker 3: and we had a lot of calls before midday opening

1140
00:55:12,227 --> 00:55:16,467
Speaker 3: the lines again on eight hundred and eighty eighty. Before

1141
00:55:16,507 --> 00:55:18,747
Speaker 3: we take your calls, we can get you back. Actually

1142
00:55:18,787 --> 00:55:22,027
Speaker 3: to Buina series where a fairly familiar voice to a

1143
00:55:22,187 --> 00:55:25,507
Speaker 3: z B and goldsportlesseners Paul Allison how Toneden based commentator

1144
00:55:25,547 --> 00:55:30,507
Speaker 3: has been watching the game live. Paul, a fairly deflated

1145
00:55:30,587 --> 00:55:32,907
Speaker 3: set of All Black supporters leaving the ground after the

1146
00:55:32,947 --> 00:55:33,587
Speaker 3: final whistle.

1147
00:55:35,867 --> 00:55:37,787
Speaker 33: I think you've got to admit, Finey, that there was

1148
00:55:37,867 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 33: really only one team in this game tonight, and it

1149
00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:43,027
Speaker 33: was the Argentinians. They started well, I think you remember

1150
00:55:43,067 --> 00:55:46,427
Speaker 33: an old Otago coach called Charlie Saxton. He talked about

1151
00:55:46,427 --> 00:55:48,587
Speaker 33: the three p's. Well, we saw them in action tonight.

1152
00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:52,627
Speaker 33: One was power with the Argentinian forwards, one was paced

1153
00:55:52,627 --> 00:55:55,347
Speaker 33: with the Argentinian backs, and the third p was precisioned

1154
00:55:55,387 --> 00:55:57,787
Speaker 33: because they just put that ball into the air and

1155
00:55:57,907 --> 00:56:00,947
Speaker 33: they are absolutely pin point. We see the tango over here.

1156
00:56:00,987 --> 00:56:02,787
Speaker 33: It takes two to tango. There's only one of them

1157
00:56:02,947 --> 00:56:04,627
Speaker 33: dancing tonight, and it was the Argentinians.

1158
00:56:05,427 --> 00:56:08,547
Speaker 3: What about the aerial Paul, was it obvious from where

1159
00:56:08,547 --> 00:56:11,387
Speaker 3: you were sitting that the All Blacks were not winning

1160
00:56:11,427 --> 00:56:12,267
Speaker 3: the aerial battle?

1161
00:56:13,947 --> 00:56:14,107
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1162
00:56:14,107 --> 00:56:15,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they weren't in the hunt.

1163
00:56:15,827 --> 00:56:18,787
Speaker 33: The accuracy of the up and unders that the Argentinians

1164
00:56:18,787 --> 00:56:22,347
Speaker 33: put in were absolutely spot on, and they reclaimed most

1165
00:56:22,387 --> 00:56:24,827
Speaker 33: of that aerial ball. And this is a part of

1166
00:56:24,867 --> 00:56:26,387
Speaker 33: the game which I think the All Blacks have always

1167
00:56:26,387 --> 00:56:29,107
Speaker 33: struggled with they've actually kicked too deep, not just tonight

1168
00:56:29,507 --> 00:56:32,067
Speaker 33: but in previous matches as well, and haven't really been

1169
00:56:32,107 --> 00:56:34,747
Speaker 33: in a position to contest that aerial ball. But the

1170
00:56:34,867 --> 00:56:37,067
Speaker 33: Argentinian started with so much power in the forward pack,

1171
00:56:37,147 --> 00:56:39,827
Speaker 33: with the one on off runners getting over the advantage line,

1172
00:56:39,867 --> 00:56:42,267
Speaker 33: recycling the ball, and they just got the momentum going.

1173
00:56:42,307 --> 00:56:44,027
Speaker 33: They looked a lot more hungry than the All Blacks,

1174
00:56:44,027 --> 00:56:45,667
Speaker 33: and the All Blacks were pretty much on the back

1175
00:56:45,667 --> 00:56:47,667
Speaker 33: foot from the kickoff. And although they got back to

1176
00:56:47,747 --> 00:56:49,587
Speaker 33: thirteen all at half time, and you can talk about

1177
00:56:49,587 --> 00:56:52,347
Speaker 33: the three yellow cards, the fact that they lost their

1178
00:56:52,947 --> 00:56:55,067
Speaker 33: their star number tier and early in the match, and okay,

1179
00:56:55,147 --> 00:56:58,067
Speaker 33: the All Blacks lost Radam early as well, but you

1180
00:56:58,147 --> 00:57:01,147
Speaker 33: start to look at it, and this Argentinian side tonight

1181
00:57:01,387 --> 00:57:03,467
Speaker 33: outplayed the All Blacks in just about every aspect in

1182
00:57:03,547 --> 00:57:04,027
Speaker 33: my opinion.

1183
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,987
Speaker 3: How was the atmosphere there as the home fans realized

1184
00:57:08,027 --> 00:57:09,787
Speaker 3: that history was about to be made.

1185
00:57:11,787 --> 00:57:12,507
Speaker 2: Well, a few of us have.

1186
00:57:12,507 --> 00:57:14,267
Speaker 33: Been a few rugby grounds around the world, and this

1187
00:57:14,427 --> 00:57:16,907
Speaker 33: is one of the special occasions. I mean, when the

1188
00:57:17,027 --> 00:57:20,907
Speaker 33: Argentinians got the ball early, everyone that was supporting the Argentinians,

1189
00:57:21,067 --> 00:57:23,467
Speaker 33: which would have been forty nine thousand out of the

1190
00:57:23,507 --> 00:57:26,707
Speaker 33: forty nine thousand, five hundred capacity. Start jumping it up

1191
00:57:26,747 --> 00:57:28,107
Speaker 33: and down on the ground, you think it's a little

1192
00:57:28,107 --> 00:57:31,467
Speaker 33: mini earthquake going on around you. They're very passionate supporters.

1193
00:57:31,627 --> 00:57:34,507
Speaker 33: I'm not sure how knowledgeable they are about rugby, but

1194
00:57:34,627 --> 00:57:36,867
Speaker 33: in terms of the passion, you can just see that

1195
00:57:37,027 --> 00:57:39,067
Speaker 33: coming out that there was a lot of noise around

1196
00:57:39,107 --> 00:57:42,707
Speaker 33: the ground and as the Argentinians got on top, they

1197
00:57:42,827 --> 00:57:46,387
Speaker 33: just the noise continued to continue on and even leaving

1198
00:57:46,427 --> 00:57:48,947
Speaker 33: the ground tonight, they've got a fan zone outside the

1199
00:57:49,107 --> 00:57:51,707
Speaker 33: playing the beetles of all things out there, and the

1200
00:57:51,827 --> 00:57:55,067
Speaker 33: fans are It really is quite quite amazing, the very

1201
00:57:55,187 --> 00:57:58,467
Speaker 33: joyous occasion for them. Obviously, they've set history, having never

1202
00:57:58,547 --> 00:58:00,867
Speaker 33: beaten the All Blacks on home soil before, and they've

1203
00:58:00,867 --> 00:58:02,547
Speaker 33: done it tonight, and they've done it in fine style.

1204
00:58:03,307 --> 00:58:05,387
Speaker 3: Just before you go and get a big stake and

1205
00:58:05,467 --> 00:58:07,947
Speaker 3: something to wash it down with, Paul, should we be worried?

1206
00:58:08,307 --> 00:58:10,467
Speaker 3: Should we be worried about the All Blacks with South

1207
00:58:10,507 --> 00:58:11,587
Speaker 3: Africa inbound?

1208
00:58:13,987 --> 00:58:15,667
Speaker 33: Well, the All Blacks have looked clunky to me, I

1209
00:58:15,747 --> 00:58:19,787
Speaker 33: predicted before I came over here to Argentina, that I

1210
00:58:19,787 --> 00:58:21,507
Speaker 33: thought it might be a one all Test series and

1211
00:58:21,667 --> 00:58:23,187
Speaker 33: the All Blacks won last week, and I thought that

1212
00:58:23,387 --> 00:58:24,747
Speaker 33: might be the one that tripped them up, and I

1213
00:58:24,787 --> 00:58:26,987
Speaker 33: thought that they would be better tonight. Also thought the

1214
00:58:27,147 --> 00:58:29,627
Speaker 33: Argies would be as well. But I'm the only one

1215
00:58:29,707 --> 00:58:31,907
Speaker 33: smiling in the bus going back amongst thirty five people

1216
00:58:31,907 --> 00:58:34,467
Speaker 33: because I won the sweepstak. I had Argentina by five piney,

1217
00:58:34,787 --> 00:58:36,547
Speaker 33: so I'm not doing too bad.

1218
00:58:37,467 --> 00:58:40,387
Speaker 3: Oh, well, you go and Luxury eight and that Paul,

1219
00:58:40,507 --> 00:58:42,347
Speaker 3: Great to chat to your mate. Safe travels back, look

1220
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:44,467
Speaker 3: forward to to catching up when you get back home.

1221
00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:51,107
Speaker 3: Paul Ellison on a bus leaving leaving one a Siri

1222
00:58:51,267 --> 00:58:54,747
Speaker 3: Stadium to go and commiserate with his fellow All Blacks

1223
00:58:55,147 --> 00:58:58,547
Speaker 3: fans who have been a born witness to some history

1224
00:58:58,667 --> 00:59:00,987
Speaker 3: over on Buenos Airies, Argentina, betting the All Blacks for

1225
00:59:01,027 --> 00:59:03,187
Speaker 3: the first time on Argentinian soil.

1226
00:59:03,267 --> 00:59:07,947
Speaker 10: Can I mark, hey, Piny, Yeah, bring back Art. Yes,

1227
00:59:08,027 --> 00:59:10,587
Speaker 10: he's playing. He's playing vintage football on the wing for

1228
00:59:10,707 --> 00:59:11,187
Speaker 10: the Warriors.

1229
00:59:11,867 --> 00:59:15,387
Speaker 3: You're out, Really, you're an out early No, I just.

1230
00:59:15,827 --> 00:59:17,707
Speaker 10: I just wanted to call him out because he's just playing.

1231
00:59:17,747 --> 00:59:19,467
Speaker 10: He's probably one of the best in the NRL at

1232
00:59:19,507 --> 00:59:22,467
Speaker 10: the moment. He's just great sportsman there, guys. Yeah, it's

1233
00:59:22,507 --> 00:59:25,787
Speaker 10: incredible being put out in the wing and just absolutely

1234
00:59:25,907 --> 00:59:27,147
Speaker 10: thriving out there at the moment.

1235
00:59:27,627 --> 00:59:29,707
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1236
00:59:30,947 --> 00:59:32,907
Speaker 10: For me, I'm not a Rico hater. I thought he

1237
00:59:33,067 --> 00:59:35,787
Speaker 10: was really good in midfield and to me, it was

1238
00:59:35,827 --> 00:59:39,027
Speaker 10: a better team with him and Jordi here. And I

1239
00:59:39,147 --> 00:59:42,027
Speaker 10: know I'm a Hurricane supporter, but I think he looked better.

1240
00:59:42,107 --> 00:59:45,067
Speaker 10: I think there's better options on the wing for me,

1241
00:59:45,147 --> 00:59:47,987
Speaker 10: and that has been great for a couple of years,

1242
00:59:48,907 --> 00:59:49,507
Speaker 10: very solid.

1243
00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:51,787
Speaker 3: Who was who was that?

1244
00:59:51,867 --> 00:59:52,107
Speaker 8: Sorry?

1245
00:59:52,147 --> 00:59:52,747
Speaker 3: Mark, who was that?

1246
00:59:52,867 --> 00:59:53,267
Speaker 24: You just said?

1247
00:59:54,267 --> 00:59:54,667
Speaker 10: Narawa?

1248
00:59:55,227 --> 00:59:56,667
Speaker 3: Oh none of us? Sorry? Are you just cut out?

1249
00:59:56,747 --> 00:59:56,867
Speaker 16: Yep?

1250
00:59:56,907 --> 00:59:57,707
Speaker 3: No, no, what, No, you're right.

1251
00:59:59,267 --> 01:00:00,907
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's good. I mean, I wouldn't take

1252
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:03,867
Speaker 10: CV res. I think he's been hasn't really done too

1253
01:00:03,987 --> 01:00:07,987
Speaker 10: much wrong really, I mean, I guess kateb Clark was

1254
01:00:08,027 --> 01:00:10,107
Speaker 10: one of the few players who could actually catch the

1255
01:00:10,187 --> 01:00:12,187
Speaker 10: ball when it was kicked into the ear, which is

1256
01:00:12,387 --> 01:00:15,547
Speaker 10: quite surprising. I mean to me, you know, when they

1257
01:00:15,627 --> 01:00:18,067
Speaker 10: brought in Ryan when they had problems with the Fords,

1258
01:00:18,547 --> 01:00:23,067
Speaker 10: it was almost transformational. Maybe they need to look outside

1259
01:00:23,467 --> 01:00:26,547
Speaker 10: the coaching staff and bringing a specialist I don't know

1260
01:00:26,707 --> 01:00:29,587
Speaker 10: from the AFL to be able to get I mean,

1261
01:00:29,827 --> 01:00:31,827
Speaker 10: all you need to get is a player to jump

1262
01:00:31,867 --> 01:00:33,427
Speaker 10: and catch the ball. I mean, you see it in

1263
01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:36,947
Speaker 10: rugby league was I don't know, coach Daniel Tupo. They're

1264
01:00:36,987 --> 01:00:39,827
Speaker 10: fantastic in the air and they make a real difference.

1265
01:00:39,947 --> 01:00:44,107
Speaker 10: I mean, I just don't understand the simplicity of it.

1266
01:00:44,467 --> 01:00:47,067
Speaker 10: I mean, to me, why kick the ball in the

1267
01:00:47,187 --> 01:00:50,747
Speaker 10: year if you haven't got a game plan to catch

1268
01:00:50,827 --> 01:00:53,187
Speaker 10: it in game position. I mean, it's so much harder

1269
01:00:54,427 --> 01:00:56,387
Speaker 10: like to get it to win a ball at a

1270
01:00:56,547 --> 01:00:59,547
Speaker 10: ruck in rugby and modern rugby than it is to

1271
01:00:59,667 --> 01:01:02,827
Speaker 10: win a ball in the year, So you'd be putting

1272
01:01:02,987 --> 01:01:05,707
Speaker 10: your effort into this all the time. And I just

1273
01:01:05,867 --> 01:01:08,547
Speaker 10: don't It just blows my mind every week. And I

1274
01:01:08,627 --> 01:01:12,027
Speaker 10: think I've mentioned it for the the foul on like

1275
01:01:12,147 --> 01:01:14,187
Speaker 10: a lot of a lot of players, you know, a

1276
01:01:14,227 --> 01:01:16,827
Speaker 10: lot of people have been containing but it's just it's

1277
01:01:16,947 --> 01:01:20,467
Speaker 10: just a complete disaster zone for them. And and you

1278
01:01:20,547 --> 01:01:24,667
Speaker 10: know Russia has targeted this Eden Park test to be

1279
01:01:24,947 --> 01:01:27,667
Speaker 10: to break the hoodoo of this, and they're going to

1280
01:01:27,707 --> 01:01:30,547
Speaker 10: bring everything they've got, including the aerial game. And I

1281
01:01:30,747 --> 01:01:33,347
Speaker 10: just don't think we're gonna I don't think we're going

1282
01:01:33,427 --> 01:01:36,067
Speaker 10: to survive it, let alone. The Australians are playing well.

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Speaker 10: I thought, I just want to congratulate that the agent

1284
01:01:40,347 --> 01:01:42,667
Speaker 10: in years. I thought they outplayed the or Blacks and

1285
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Speaker 10: deserved to win.

1286
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Speaker 3: Good summary, Mark, thanks mate. Yeah, look the kicking. Yeah,

1287
01:01:48,267 --> 01:01:50,907
Speaker 3: as you say, and it's and you're right to continue

1288
01:01:50,947 --> 01:01:53,907
Speaker 3: to bring it up because the rules as they stand now,

1289
01:01:54,267 --> 01:01:57,067
Speaker 3: as Jason Holland said, when you when you put up

1290
01:01:57,107 --> 01:02:03,267
Speaker 3: a kick, you can challenge the receiver because you're not

1291
01:02:03,307 --> 01:02:05,667
Speaker 3: allowed to run into ference anymore. You're not allowed to

1292
01:02:05,747 --> 01:02:09,827
Speaker 3: sort of gather around that player and help them out

1293
01:02:10,587 --> 01:02:15,587
Speaker 3: block any runners. It is an actual contest. It's one

1294
01:02:16,027 --> 01:02:19,267
Speaker 3: major work on for this team ahead of South Africa.

1295
01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:22,867
Speaker 3: And look they're aware of it. I didn't think Jason

1296
01:02:22,907 --> 01:02:26,587
Speaker 3: Holland ducked any any you know, issues there. He said,

1297
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Speaker 3: we're not. There's nothing out there that we're happy with.

1298
01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:34,907
Speaker 3: We were disjointed on attack, we were beaten in the air.

1299
01:02:37,787 --> 01:02:40,587
Speaker 3: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Your chance to react.

1300
01:02:41,307 --> 01:02:42,707
Speaker 3: We've got a spare line, I think for the first

1301
01:02:42,747 --> 01:02:45,147
Speaker 3: time since full time. So if you haven't been able

1302
01:02:45,147 --> 01:02:46,987
Speaker 3: to get through now's the time to give it a crack.

1303
01:02:47,027 --> 01:02:49,827
Speaker 3: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty A couple of

1304
01:02:49,907 --> 01:02:51,787
Speaker 3: texts before we go back to the lines. Australia's backs

1305
01:02:51,787 --> 01:02:55,467
Speaker 3: have speed on their wings, creative midfield, and they diffuse

1306
01:02:55,467 --> 01:02:57,067
Speaker 3: the high ball. They beat the All Black's hands down

1307
01:02:57,067 --> 01:03:00,987
Speaker 3: at the moment. Look, I think Australia after this morning's

1308
01:03:01,027 --> 01:03:03,467
Speaker 3: performance in Cape Town, where they gave a pretty good

1309
01:03:03,467 --> 01:03:06,987
Speaker 3: account of themselves before South Africa managed to win that game,

1310
01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:10,827
Speaker 3: I think Australia will be coming back and they've got

1311
01:03:10,907 --> 01:03:13,547
Speaker 3: Argentina coming their way. Of course, a couple of test

1312
01:03:13,627 --> 01:03:17,467
Speaker 3: matches in Australia before they play US home and away.

1313
01:03:18,067 --> 01:03:19,747
Speaker 3: I think they'll feel like they're on a pretty good

1314
01:03:19,907 --> 01:03:25,987
Speaker 3: trajectory at the moment. Last week obviously was tremendous beating

1315
01:03:26,627 --> 01:03:28,547
Speaker 3: the spring Box at Alice Park for the first time,

1316
01:03:28,627 --> 01:03:32,587
Speaker 3: and Goodness only knows how long this morning they I think,

1317
01:03:32,827 --> 01:03:34,747
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think they took too many steps back.

1318
01:03:35,387 --> 01:03:37,347
Speaker 3: They had a couple of moments where perhaps they could

1319
01:03:37,347 --> 01:03:41,227
Speaker 3: have been better and would maybe have even won the

1320
01:03:41,267 --> 01:03:45,387
Speaker 3: game if they were. But yes, Australia, they'll said, they'll

1321
01:03:45,427 --> 01:03:48,507
Speaker 3: be watching as well. The world is watching Anstrom. What

1322
01:03:48,587 --> 01:03:51,067
Speaker 3: he said just keeps on coming back to me that

1323
01:03:51,227 --> 01:03:53,907
Speaker 3: people will watch the way the All Blacks are struggling

1324
01:03:53,987 --> 01:03:57,067
Speaker 3: under the high wall and they will construct a strategy

1325
01:03:57,107 --> 01:04:00,267
Speaker 3: around it. The All Blacks, for their part, just have

1326
01:04:00,427 --> 01:04:03,067
Speaker 3: to get better. They have to get better at it.

1327
01:04:05,427 --> 01:04:08,067
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty two Mike, Hello mate.

1328
01:04:08,747 --> 01:04:10,827
Speaker 10: Yeah, gay mate, Jason, how are you good?

1329
01:04:10,867 --> 01:04:11,067
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1330
01:04:11,147 --> 01:04:11,307
Speaker 11: Mom?

1331
01:04:12,747 --> 01:04:18,227
Speaker 23: I heard Jason Ryan go on about the Orbles wanted

1332
01:04:18,267 --> 01:04:20,227
Speaker 23: to play an expensive game, and all I want to

1333
01:04:20,227 --> 01:04:24,187
Speaker 23: comment on that is the Orbock's played dumb, dumber and

1334
01:04:24,347 --> 01:04:28,907
Speaker 23: dumbest rugby. How the hell do you play expensive rugby

1335
01:04:28,907 --> 01:04:31,347
Speaker 23: when the half back box kicks, when you're down on

1336
01:04:31,427 --> 01:04:33,387
Speaker 23: the points, You've got no position.

1337
01:04:33,707 --> 01:04:35,187
Speaker 34: I mean you look at the stats.

1338
01:04:35,227 --> 01:04:38,227
Speaker 23: When was the last test the All Blacks one where

1339
01:04:38,227 --> 01:04:39,707
Speaker 23: they only had forty percent.

1340
01:04:39,467 --> 01:04:39,787
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

1341
01:04:39,827 --> 01:04:42,307
Speaker 23: They're never gonna win, never in a million years. In

1342
01:04:42,427 --> 01:04:44,987
Speaker 23: the comments that South Africa is coming and so as Australia,

1343
01:04:45,267 --> 01:04:47,627
Speaker 23: I reckon the All Blacks have got their backs against

1344
01:04:47,667 --> 01:04:48,507
Speaker 23: the wall at Eden Park.

1345
01:04:50,067 --> 01:04:52,467
Speaker 3: Well, let's hope that the reaction to that, Mike is

1346
01:04:52,867 --> 01:04:55,067
Speaker 3: as a positive one. You know, they often say there's

1347
01:04:55,427 --> 01:04:57,987
Speaker 3: nothing like a wounded spring. Bark or a wounded wallaby

1348
01:04:58,107 --> 01:05:00,907
Speaker 3: or probably a wounded poma. This is a wounded All

1349
01:05:00,947 --> 01:05:03,947
Speaker 3: Blacks now, so I'm expecting a reaction. I think we

1350
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:05,867
Speaker 3: all should expect a reaction.

1351
01:05:07,507 --> 01:05:09,987
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think one hundred percent. But the other thing

1352
01:05:10,227 --> 01:05:11,947
Speaker 23: I said to my partner when we were watching the

1353
01:05:12,027 --> 01:05:15,067
Speaker 23: postgame show Things, when Cody Taylor was on the stand,

1354
01:05:15,427 --> 01:05:17,987
Speaker 23: he looked straight at the reporter Scott Robinson. His eyes

1355
01:05:17,987 --> 01:05:21,947
Speaker 23: are all over the show, and it's almost like they

1356
01:05:22,027 --> 01:05:24,227
Speaker 23: don't have answers to the problems. And if they've worked

1357
01:05:24,267 --> 01:05:26,067
Speaker 23: on this all week, and they and they work on

1358
01:05:26,147 --> 01:05:28,307
Speaker 23: a problem all week and they produce a performance like that,

1359
01:05:28,507 --> 01:05:29,667
Speaker 23: a man that's got your worries.

1360
01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:33,947
Speaker 3: Thanks Mike, I appreciate your call. Drive Save twelve twenty

1361
01:05:33,987 --> 01:05:38,187
Speaker 3: eight lines continue to be open, although they fill up

1362
01:05:38,187 --> 01:05:40,267
Speaker 3: as quickly as they open, So give it a crack.

1363
01:05:40,347 --> 01:05:42,787
Speaker 3: Aj Hello, Yeah, Getty.

1364
01:05:42,587 --> 01:05:44,467
Speaker 7: Fine, I'm going to come off the big thing. And

1365
01:05:44,507 --> 01:05:48,227
Speaker 7: I think did they make it good? I don't think

1366
01:05:48,387 --> 01:05:51,867
Speaker 7: all Black backplay has been good under this coachy, Raine, mate.

1367
01:05:51,907 --> 01:05:54,627
Speaker 7: I think we've one backwards Idall Foster in the last

1368
01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:56,587
Speaker 7: three years for Joe Smith, and that might be something

1369
01:05:56,627 --> 01:05:59,067
Speaker 7: as well that we had a back coach that knew

1370
01:05:59,067 --> 01:06:00,387
Speaker 7: what he was doing. Mate, I don't think we've got

1371
01:06:00,427 --> 01:06:02,947
Speaker 7: back coaches there at the moment they were doing. I'd

1372
01:06:02,987 --> 01:06:06,307
Speaker 7: have either Reuben Love or probably better at full back,

1373
01:06:06,667 --> 01:06:09,187
Speaker 7: and I had Little Drawer on the wing, and I'd

1374
01:06:09,227 --> 01:06:10,707
Speaker 7: had Leroy Chounter on the other wing.

1375
01:06:10,827 --> 01:06:11,027
Speaker 18: Mate.

1376
01:06:11,227 --> 01:06:13,227
Speaker 7: You know you look at me, mum will cup back

1377
01:06:13,267 --> 01:06:15,267
Speaker 7: and through the other eleven. The high ball was the

1378
01:06:16,067 --> 01:06:17,907
Speaker 7: previous two years, the kicking to the high ball, and

1379
01:06:17,987 --> 01:06:20,187
Speaker 7: we're what you gave hear me doing. They picked the

1380
01:06:20,227 --> 01:06:22,387
Speaker 7: guy up and named Richter CARHOI who was the best

1381
01:06:22,427 --> 01:06:25,387
Speaker 7: on the high ball, Say Corey, Corey Dane another winger,

1382
01:06:25,547 --> 01:06:27,307
Speaker 7: I fall back. This is what we need to do, mate.

1383
01:06:27,347 --> 01:06:29,427
Speaker 7: I'm not thinking propably this coaching group at the moment.

1384
01:06:29,467 --> 01:06:30,387
Speaker 7: I'm pussed top about it.

1385
01:06:34,547 --> 01:06:36,907
Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, and I know I'm gonna keep I'm gonna

1386
01:06:36,947 --> 01:06:38,027
Speaker 3: keep you on it because I want to hear more.

1387
01:06:38,187 --> 01:06:40,547
Speaker 3: But I think you know the Ruben Loved one's interesting,

1388
01:06:40,627 --> 01:06:42,707
Speaker 3: not the biggest guy, but a fullback, very brave and

1389
01:06:42,747 --> 01:06:43,667
Speaker 3: good under the high ball.

1390
01:06:44,067 --> 01:06:47,627
Speaker 21: So if he looking to yeah, he's probably.

1391
01:06:47,427 --> 01:06:50,027
Speaker 7: The best player. And that all the tea that takes

1392
01:06:50,027 --> 01:06:51,867
Speaker 7: the high ball and nine time out of ten he

1393
01:06:51,987 --> 01:06:54,787
Speaker 7: catches it, you know. And also I don't think we

1394
01:06:54,907 --> 01:06:56,627
Speaker 7: can go. I love vating Barrett and I thought he

1395
01:06:56,707 --> 01:06:59,027
Speaker 7: was outstanding in the first half this morning. But we

1396
01:06:59,147 --> 01:07:01,387
Speaker 7: can't have a goal kick out. There's only kicking sixty

1397
01:07:01,667 --> 01:07:04,907
Speaker 7: percent of the all back Test sectors that just look

1398
01:07:04,947 --> 01:07:07,147
Speaker 7: at pull out this morning, mate, Dodgies would have won

1399
01:07:07,227 --> 01:07:08,907
Speaker 7: that match that they had had a goal and nothing

1400
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,307
Speaker 7: game to Connor, I thought they were really unlucky to

1401
01:07:11,347 --> 01:07:13,027
Speaker 7: lose that game this morning. But at the moment, as

1402
01:07:13,027 --> 01:07:15,667
Speaker 7: I sit to you, producer Andy McDonald's, at the moment,

1403
01:07:15,747 --> 01:07:17,387
Speaker 7: I don't think the all back with Victor Wallabies at

1404
01:07:17,427 --> 01:07:20,787
Speaker 7: the moment, but we're we're looking. I was so pumped

1405
01:07:20,827 --> 01:07:22,347
Speaker 7: up there coming to Auckland and went to the watch

1406
01:07:22,347 --> 01:07:24,427
Speaker 7: the all back. But at the moment they need they

1407
01:07:24,467 --> 01:07:27,067
Speaker 7: need to have a card and harder themselves. And I

1408
01:07:27,227 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 7: had to say that it was probably with kissed back

1409
01:07:29,667 --> 01:07:32,427
Speaker 7: of Saint Scott Barrett played this morning. Yeah, he wants

1410
01:07:32,467 --> 01:07:34,427
Speaker 7: to get some gruel and tends. Man, he dropped on ball.

1411
01:07:34,467 --> 01:07:34,747
Speaker 21: That's more.

1412
01:07:34,747 --> 01:07:37,547
Speaker 7: It's terrible, you know, the middal assistant all day to

1413
01:07:37,747 --> 01:07:39,747
Speaker 7: go by feeling in my opinion.

1414
01:07:39,947 --> 01:07:43,147
Speaker 3: Yep, AJ don't don't let this stop you from coming

1415
01:07:43,187 --> 01:07:44,907
Speaker 3: to Auckland and Wellington, because I'm keen to meet you

1416
01:07:45,307 --> 01:07:48,987
Speaker 3: at our pregame shows. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1417
01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:50,827
Speaker 3: eighties and I'm a half fast twelve back in a moment,

1418
01:07:50,907 --> 01:07:51,867
Speaker 3: Gareth hold their mate with you.

1419
01:07:51,987 --> 01:07:56,947
Speaker 1: Right after this one, crutch hold Engage Weekend Sport with

1420
01:07:57,147 --> 01:08:00,947
Speaker 1: Jason Hym and GJ Gunner Homes New Zealand's was trusted

1421
01:08:01,027 --> 01:08:02,267
Speaker 1: Home Milder News talk to.

1422
01:08:02,347 --> 01:08:07,467
Speaker 5: Baby Well, I didn't see it two meters away, pick

1423
01:08:07,547 --> 01:08:13,067
Speaker 5: and go bearing down on the line and they're over Argentina.

1424
01:08:13,187 --> 01:08:16,787
Speaker 5: Get that right, and it's converted as well as from

1425
01:08:16,787 --> 01:08:19,347
Speaker 5: the left wing titis line side and we aren't level

1426
01:08:19,547 --> 01:08:20,387
Speaker 5: thirteen a piece.

1427
01:08:20,467 --> 01:08:23,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a half time score. The Puma's going

1428
01:08:23,387 --> 01:08:26,627
Speaker 3: on to win twenty nine twenty three. Thanks for holding Garris,

1429
01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:27,627
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

1430
01:08:28,467 --> 01:08:30,907
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, Pining. I appreciate you show. It's always a

1431
01:08:30,907 --> 01:08:34,627
Speaker 15: good one. I guess I agree with everyone's summation. There's

1432
01:08:35,267 --> 01:08:37,467
Speaker 15: a whole lot of work on. But I guess what

1433
01:08:37,547 --> 01:08:40,947
Speaker 15: I was disappointed with was just our inability to react

1434
01:08:40,987 --> 01:08:43,667
Speaker 15: to what was going wrong. So obviously the aerial game

1435
01:08:43,787 --> 01:08:45,987
Speaker 15: was an issue, but then, like a couple of people

1436
01:08:46,027 --> 01:08:49,507
Speaker 15: have mentioned, we continued to box kick and we continued

1437
01:08:49,507 --> 01:08:52,027
Speaker 15: to put trips over and stuff. So if that's not

1438
01:08:52,187 --> 01:08:56,027
Speaker 15: going right, why wouldn't you change tacks? And like I thought,

1439
01:08:56,067 --> 01:08:58,347
Speaker 15: I saw a stat leading into halftime that would run

1440
01:08:58,387 --> 01:09:00,867
Speaker 15: all our own line out ball. Why wouldn't you kick

1441
01:09:00,987 --> 01:09:05,267
Speaker 15: for the corner and try and get a driving all going?

1442
01:09:05,347 --> 01:09:08,627
Speaker 15: Like I thought, Fabian Holland and Cody Taylor played a

1443
01:09:08,667 --> 01:09:10,867
Speaker 15: really good game and then when it really mattered, we

1444
01:09:10,947 --> 01:09:13,747
Speaker 15: pulled them off. And I just thought those two subs,

1445
01:09:13,867 --> 01:09:16,307
Speaker 15: we had a couple of false starts at the lineouts

1446
01:09:16,347 --> 01:09:18,627
Speaker 15: when we really needed it. I get that the crowd

1447
01:09:18,707 --> 01:09:21,827
Speaker 15: noise might have been an issue, but I just you know,

1448
01:09:21,907 --> 01:09:24,987
Speaker 15: I'm worried about our rugby intelligence more than the actual

1449
01:09:25,067 --> 01:09:27,187
Speaker 15: technical side of it, because I think that can be fixed.

1450
01:09:27,307 --> 01:09:29,907
Speaker 15: But I think there was no one out there who

1451
01:09:30,187 --> 01:09:33,267
Speaker 15: took the game by the hand. Did this needs to change?

1452
01:09:33,307 --> 01:09:35,547
Speaker 15: We're going to do this this, We're going to slow

1453
01:09:35,587 --> 01:09:37,507
Speaker 15: down for the next five to ten minutes, get back

1454
01:09:37,547 --> 01:09:39,747
Speaker 15: in the game. And yeah, I don't know what you

1455
01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:40,387
Speaker 15: think of that, but.

1456
01:09:40,627 --> 01:09:42,947
Speaker 3: No, I think you bang on the money. Gareth I

1457
01:09:42,987 --> 01:09:46,067
Speaker 3: think the ability to think in game on the field

1458
01:09:46,547 --> 01:09:50,187
Speaker 3: when all about you was pretty hectic and chaotic is

1459
01:09:50,427 --> 01:09:53,547
Speaker 3: an absolute skill that the leaders in this team should have.

1460
01:09:54,307 --> 01:09:56,307
Speaker 3: Bang on, mate, they should they should say, hey, this

1461
01:09:56,427 --> 01:09:58,227
Speaker 3: ain't working, so we're going to go to Plan B

1462
01:09:58,347 --> 01:09:58,707
Speaker 3: and here it.

1463
01:09:58,787 --> 01:10:02,547
Speaker 15: Is exactly and like, if we're not going to fix

1464
01:10:02,587 --> 01:10:04,227
Speaker 15: the aerial game in the next couple of weeks, which

1465
01:10:04,267 --> 01:10:06,667
Speaker 15: I don't think we can necessarily fix to be a

1466
01:10:06,787 --> 01:10:10,307
Speaker 15: team like South Africa or Australia. Granted I do have

1467
01:10:10,347 --> 01:10:12,787
Speaker 15: a cele Afrian wife, so it gets a bit heated

1468
01:10:12,867 --> 01:10:16,307
Speaker 15: in our household. But I think if we've got a

1469
01:10:16,427 --> 01:10:17,907
Speaker 15: skill that's not as good as them, why don't we

1470
01:10:17,947 --> 01:10:19,467
Speaker 15: go to something else? And I think I'll line out

1471
01:10:19,787 --> 01:10:22,907
Speaker 15: out of everything and our scrum are functioning reasonably well,

1472
01:10:23,547 --> 01:10:27,107
Speaker 15: So find something that we're doing well and use it

1473
01:10:27,147 --> 01:10:30,187
Speaker 15: as much as we possibly can, because I think at

1474
01:10:30,227 --> 01:10:33,147
Speaker 15: the moment, anything outside second five is just not working.

1475
01:10:33,987 --> 01:10:36,507
Speaker 3: Mate. If I never see another box kick again, I'll

1476
01:10:36,507 --> 01:10:38,667
Speaker 3: be happy. And you're right, I mean, if the aerial

1477
01:10:38,707 --> 01:10:40,827
Speaker 3: game isn't working, I mean, we can't stop the opposition

1478
01:10:40,987 --> 01:10:43,587
Speaker 3: from bombing us. That's their prerogative, that's what they have

1479
01:10:43,667 --> 01:10:45,227
Speaker 3: to do. We just have to be ready for it.

1480
01:10:45,307 --> 01:10:48,947
Speaker 3: But if we're not winning contestable ball from our own

1481
01:10:48,987 --> 01:10:51,187
Speaker 3: box cakes, then you're right by just stop doing it.

1482
01:10:52,707 --> 01:10:54,987
Speaker 15: I'd love to know how the percentage of I'd love

1483
01:10:55,027 --> 01:10:57,707
Speaker 15: to know what the percentage that we got those attacking

1484
01:10:57,787 --> 01:11:01,867
Speaker 15: box kicks back. But if it's not working, change the game.

1485
01:11:03,147 --> 01:11:05,707
Speaker 15: And I think unfortunately, I think Body Barrett had a

1486
01:11:05,707 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 15: bad night with the b which is a rarity and

1487
01:11:08,347 --> 01:11:10,027
Speaker 15: normally that would have kept us in the game. But

1488
01:11:10,587 --> 01:11:14,347
Speaker 15: I think that's just glossing over bigot issues that really

1489
01:11:14,427 --> 01:11:17,027
Speaker 15: need to be fixed. And I think we're going through

1490
01:11:17,027 --> 01:11:19,667
Speaker 15: a period where we don't have the luxury of depth

1491
01:11:19,747 --> 01:11:22,987
Speaker 15: where if someone's playing badly, we can just boot them

1492
01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:25,267
Speaker 15: because there's not a whole lot of people waiting in

1493
01:11:25,307 --> 01:11:26,907
Speaker 15: the wings. So we've got to come up with a plan.

1494
01:11:27,027 --> 01:11:30,507
Speaker 3: B Indeed, interesting few weeks coming up in your place

1495
01:11:30,587 --> 01:11:33,587
Speaker 3: mate with you, yourself and your wife. No doubt you'll

1496
01:11:33,667 --> 01:11:35,107
Speaker 3: negotiated safely enough.

1497
01:11:36,187 --> 01:11:38,387
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm feeling a bit exhausted getting up this morning

1498
01:11:38,467 --> 01:11:39,867
Speaker 15: watching sasty game.

1499
01:11:40,027 --> 01:11:42,227
Speaker 7: But there was just way better quality rugby.

1500
01:11:42,347 --> 01:11:44,307
Speaker 15: Like I was watching that game and I was on

1501
01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:45,867
Speaker 15: the edge of my seat the whole game and then

1502
01:11:45,907 --> 01:11:48,707
Speaker 15: this game. I just it was just a painful watch

1503
01:11:48,747 --> 01:11:49,827
Speaker 15: from twenty minutes.

1504
01:11:49,547 --> 01:11:53,267
Speaker 3: In great to chet you Gareth, make callback anytime, love

1505
01:11:53,947 --> 01:11:55,787
Speaker 3: love your input. Thanks indeed, oh eight one hundred and

1506
01:11:55,787 --> 01:11:58,307
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty as always as our number, Graham High,

1507
01:11:59,187 --> 01:11:59,627
Speaker 3: how are you going?

1508
01:11:59,707 --> 01:12:00,227
Speaker 15: Serve you well?

1509
01:12:00,707 --> 01:12:01,307
Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you?

1510
01:12:02,227 --> 01:12:05,987
Speaker 13: Yeah, little slightly controversial, but I think the problem's been

1511
01:12:06,547 --> 01:12:09,347
Speaker 13: around for a while. These enormous, bloated squads that we

1512
01:12:09,467 --> 01:12:12,947
Speaker 13: take on two, right, and if you look at the

1513
01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:15,907
Speaker 13: makeup of the side, and I'll justify this beginning of

1514
01:12:15,987 --> 01:12:19,907
Speaker 13: some call brothers, but I'm a generic rugby fan. I'll

1515
01:12:19,907 --> 01:12:21,507
Speaker 13: just watch a good game at rugby. I'm not partial

1516
01:12:21,547 --> 01:12:24,267
Speaker 13: to any super franchise. Right, there's far too many Chiefs

1517
01:12:24,347 --> 01:12:28,747
Speaker 13: players who are serial losers. That's they've been favorite four

1518
01:12:28,787 --> 01:12:30,747
Speaker 13: of the last five Super Rugby finals. I can't close

1519
01:12:30,787 --> 01:12:32,907
Speaker 13: the game out ther whole bench is made up of

1520
01:12:32,987 --> 01:12:35,147
Speaker 13: Kiefs players. So do we expect anything different at the

1521
01:12:35,227 --> 01:12:35,667
Speaker 13: end of the game.

1522
01:12:36,507 --> 01:12:39,827
Speaker 3: That is controversially, Graham, I'm not sure that there's necessarily

1523
01:12:39,867 --> 01:12:42,507
Speaker 3: a losing mindset. And the Chiefs, yes, they've lost three

1524
01:12:42,547 --> 01:12:42,987
Speaker 3: grand time.

1525
01:12:44,867 --> 01:12:47,987
Speaker 13: I agree that, right, but they just don't when they

1526
01:12:48,027 --> 01:12:50,867
Speaker 13: can't get across the line in big games. So you

1527
01:12:50,947 --> 01:12:53,587
Speaker 13: know when you bring on an round play with Quintapaia

1528
01:12:53,667 --> 01:12:56,187
Speaker 13: and Damian McKenzie. These guys have been around long time,

1529
01:12:56,227 --> 01:12:57,987
Speaker 13: the Chiefs, but they can't close out a big game.

1530
01:12:59,507 --> 01:13:01,747
Speaker 3: It's an interesting viewpoint. No, no, it's a good thought.

1531
01:13:01,987 --> 01:13:06,547
Speaker 3: All thoughts welcome, Graham. And the data would say that

1532
01:13:06,627 --> 01:13:09,387
Speaker 3: you're right on the bench. Docky a hal lord s

1533
01:13:09,587 --> 01:13:14,067
Speaker 3: Titi Topia McKenzie. So five on the bench there. Okay,

1534
01:13:14,267 --> 01:13:17,027
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the correlation you've drawn it. I'm

1535
01:13:17,067 --> 01:13:20,387
Speaker 3: not sure about it, but it's certainly a salient point

1536
01:13:20,427 --> 01:13:23,627
Speaker 3: to raise. All opinions. Welcome on the show, as you know, Graham.

1537
01:13:24,067 --> 01:13:27,147
Speaker 15: David, Hello, you know Jason, how are you?

1538
01:13:27,707 --> 01:13:29,187
Speaker 3: I'm all right, David, I'm all right mate.

1539
01:13:29,547 --> 01:13:32,987
Speaker 35: Good will you'd be shaping up for the football season

1540
01:13:33,027 --> 01:13:36,787
Speaker 35: coming up, of course, but looking forward to it exactly

1541
01:13:37,387 --> 01:13:39,147
Speaker 35: and hope the phoenix ever been a year. But look

1542
01:13:40,227 --> 01:13:43,867
Speaker 35: my opinion anyway, thought's with there was no attack with

1543
01:13:44,067 --> 01:13:46,667
Speaker 35: all them bested the Warriors for no attack the last

1544
01:13:46,827 --> 01:13:49,507
Speaker 35: four weeks, or at least they showed some last night,

1545
01:13:49,587 --> 01:13:52,147
Speaker 35: But to me, there was no attack. It was timid.

1546
01:13:52,227 --> 01:13:52,947
Speaker 9: It was petsy.

1547
01:13:53,027 --> 01:13:55,867
Speaker 35: It was almost like Chloe Swallbook getting up and asking

1548
01:13:55,947 --> 01:13:58,547
Speaker 35: the Prime Minister a question. There was more attack coming

1549
01:13:58,587 --> 01:14:01,347
Speaker 35: from there from her than there wasn't any of our

1550
01:14:01,627 --> 01:14:05,867
Speaker 35: movements this morning. It was shocking. It was so passive

1551
01:14:06,467 --> 01:14:10,507
Speaker 35: that it was here. Well, it was my opinions anyway.

1552
01:14:10,627 --> 01:14:12,227
Speaker 2: You know, at the tries.

1553
01:14:12,507 --> 01:14:14,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at the tries that we scored, David,

1554
01:14:15,147 --> 01:14:18,467
Speaker 3: and you know, a prop going over in the corner.

1555
01:14:18,907 --> 01:14:20,507
Speaker 3: To be fair, I thought that was, you know, that

1556
01:14:20,627 --> 01:14:22,147
Speaker 3: had the sort of the makings of a good back

1557
01:14:22,227 --> 01:14:24,547
Speaker 3: line move. And Will Jordan's throwing the wild cut out

1558
01:14:24,627 --> 01:14:29,267
Speaker 3: pass and you know, Fletch and you're going over in

1559
01:14:29,387 --> 01:14:33,227
Speaker 3: the corner. Billy Propter though from a you know, from

1560
01:14:33,267 --> 01:14:36,387
Speaker 3: a a lot was sort of drive close to the

1561
01:14:36,467 --> 01:14:39,227
Speaker 3: line and then Tokiyahu with a rolling wall. You know,

1562
01:14:39,307 --> 01:14:41,667
Speaker 3: we used to pride ourselves, didn't we on on flowing

1563
01:14:41,747 --> 01:14:45,707
Speaker 3: back line moves and and making space for the outsides

1564
01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:48,747
Speaker 3: and centers who could set up our wingers in our

1565
01:14:48,827 --> 01:14:51,547
Speaker 3: full back in space. And yeah that look, I know,

1566
01:14:51,707 --> 01:14:54,107
Speaker 3: I know, defenses these days are a lot, you know,

1567
01:14:54,147 --> 01:14:56,187
Speaker 3: a lot more refined in terms of the way they

1568
01:14:56,787 --> 01:14:59,027
Speaker 3: they do their research and things like that. But yeah,

1569
01:14:59,147 --> 01:15:01,707
Speaker 3: flowing back line moves just don't seem to be a

1570
01:15:01,827 --> 01:15:04,147
Speaker 3: quality that we possess necessarily at the moment.

1571
01:15:05,307 --> 01:15:07,027
Speaker 35: I'll tell you there's one good thing get out of

1572
01:15:07,147 --> 01:15:10,787
Speaker 35: us at least this year's Rugby Championship is actually no

1573
01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:12,707
Speaker 35: one knows who's going to win it yet and so

1574
01:15:12,827 --> 01:15:15,507
Speaker 35: there is actually something to sit and watch the damned thing,

1575
01:15:16,947 --> 01:15:20,067
Speaker 35: which makes it a little bit more endurable than the

1576
01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:22,227
Speaker 35: average one that's either of the All Blacks or South Africa.

1577
01:15:22,227 --> 01:15:23,947
Speaker 35: At least Australia has got a chance of winning the

1578
01:15:24,027 --> 01:15:24,787
Speaker 35: damn thing this year.

1579
01:15:25,507 --> 01:15:27,707
Speaker 3: Indeed, Look that's it, And I think if you don't

1580
01:15:27,707 --> 01:15:29,467
Speaker 3: have any skin in the game, then I think you're

1581
01:15:29,467 --> 01:15:32,987
Speaker 3: pleased about it, the fact that there's there's some genuine competition.

1582
01:15:34,067 --> 01:15:36,227
Speaker 3: I just mixed up those tries, didn't I The try

1583
01:15:36,307 --> 01:15:38,627
Speaker 3: to Proctor was the one that Jordan threw it wired

1584
01:15:38,667 --> 01:15:41,467
Speaker 3: to Rico, quick ball from Christy to Proctor who went

1585
01:15:41,507 --> 01:15:44,347
Speaker 3: over the Fletcher and your one was actually set up

1586
01:15:44,387 --> 01:15:47,107
Speaker 3: by Simon Parker and save coming into play half back.

1587
01:15:47,867 --> 01:15:50,187
Speaker 3: But yeah, that you know, and I know defenses are

1588
01:15:50,227 --> 01:15:55,027
Speaker 3: up quickly, of course they are. They they spot trouble

1589
01:15:55,827 --> 01:16:00,867
Speaker 3: quickly and don't give you space. But yeah, I don't know,

1590
01:16:01,067 --> 01:16:05,427
Speaker 3: they just there was it was disjointed. Jason Holland himself

1591
01:16:05,427 --> 01:16:10,427
Speaker 3: admitted it this morning nineteen to one. We'll take a break, Glenn,

1592
01:16:10,507 --> 01:16:12,027
Speaker 3: I'm with you right after the spear line if you

1593
01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:14,147
Speaker 3: want to jump on. We're talking all blacks till one.

1594
01:16:14,227 --> 01:16:17,587
Speaker 3: Warriors after one, Pugs says on ticks piney, when are

1595
01:16:17,587 --> 01:16:18,747
Speaker 3: we going to talk about the warriors?

1596
01:16:18,907 --> 01:16:19,027
Speaker 27: Up?

1597
01:16:19,067 --> 01:16:21,587
Speaker 3: The was Pugs eat straight after one? Stacy Jones going

1598
01:16:21,667 --> 01:16:23,267
Speaker 3: to take our call. Then we'll talk to warriors, but

1599
01:16:23,387 --> 01:16:25,467
Speaker 3: all blacks until one o'clock on eight hundred and eighty

1600
01:16:25,587 --> 01:16:25,987
Speaker 3: ten eighty.

1601
01:16:27,347 --> 01:16:29,387
Speaker 2: You be the TMO and yours say.

1602
01:16:29,427 --> 01:16:32,427
Speaker 1: On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with

1603
01:16:32,627 --> 01:16:36,707
Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1604
01:16:36,747 --> 01:16:39,507
Speaker 1: builder News Talks, they'd be calld it to one.

1605
01:16:39,667 --> 01:16:45,467
Speaker 36: Hey Glenn, Hey, hey poney, geez. There was a tough

1606
01:16:45,547 --> 01:16:49,787
Speaker 36: watch this morning. A lot of it was to go through.

1607
01:16:50,187 --> 01:16:51,867
Speaker 36: But I'm just try and pick a few. And I'll

1608
01:16:51,867 --> 01:16:53,947
Speaker 36: start off by saying that I am absolutely die hard

1609
01:16:54,027 --> 01:16:58,347
Speaker 36: Crusaders fan, but I just can't see any improvement in

1610
01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:02,827
Speaker 36: this team since Robertson has taken over, and I think

1611
01:17:02,867 --> 01:17:05,507
Speaker 36: he'd make a great politician, because the guy never answered

1612
01:17:05,507 --> 01:17:09,347
Speaker 36: the question. He always talks in circles or riddles or

1613
01:17:09,427 --> 01:17:11,347
Speaker 36: makes it choke like he's just I don't know.

1614
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:11,987
Speaker 16: I don't get it.

1615
01:17:12,107 --> 01:17:15,427
Speaker 36: As the heavens, it's really frustrating me. But on the team,

1616
01:17:16,067 --> 01:17:20,987
Speaker 36: the facts just don't look no cohesion. They don't seem

1617
01:17:21,067 --> 01:17:23,867
Speaker 36: to know what to do, which is astounding considering the

1618
01:17:23,947 --> 01:17:27,907
Speaker 36: quality of the players on the box kicks. The box

1619
01:17:28,027 --> 01:17:31,307
Speaker 36: kicks is great if it's contestable, but ours hardly ever are,

1620
01:17:31,547 --> 01:17:34,707
Speaker 36: whereas there's always seemed to be same with the kickoff

1621
01:17:34,787 --> 01:17:38,427
Speaker 36: at halfway. Theirs is always contestable and fifty to fifty

1622
01:17:38,587 --> 01:17:41,027
Speaker 36: we lose it. We kick off, we kick it a

1623
01:17:41,027 --> 01:17:45,027
Speaker 36: long and there's no conky for them to get the

1624
01:17:45,067 --> 01:17:47,027
Speaker 36: ball back. They just get it round up a bit

1625
01:17:47,067 --> 01:17:47,427
Speaker 36: and then.

1626
01:17:47,387 --> 01:17:48,387
Speaker 37: Kick it back down to us.

1627
01:17:49,107 --> 01:17:53,747
Speaker 36: As I don't know. There was just such a frustrating watch. Forwards,

1628
01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:56,027
Speaker 36: we talk about site well, we talk about wanting to

1629
01:17:56,067 --> 01:17:58,107
Speaker 36: play a quick game, but then we pick a FOURD

1630
01:17:58,187 --> 01:18:02,427
Speaker 36: pack which doesn't offer that. There's no mobility in the

1631
01:18:02,587 --> 01:18:06,827
Speaker 36: facts three. I don't know, Man, we've got two weeks

1632
01:18:06,907 --> 01:18:11,147
Speaker 36: until we're probably going to lose the Ian Park record.

1633
01:18:11,707 --> 01:18:14,387
Speaker 36: But man, I really hope that they turn it around.

1634
01:18:14,507 --> 01:18:16,387
Speaker 36: And if they picked pretty much the same game, I

1635
01:18:16,787 --> 01:18:19,307
Speaker 36: might't have a massive issue with it because I don't

1636
01:18:19,347 --> 01:18:21,067
Speaker 36: know who else they can possibly bring in and they

1637
01:18:21,147 --> 01:18:22,987
Speaker 36: don't have any time to do it. Do you say

1638
01:18:23,027 --> 01:18:26,067
Speaker 36: to this team, it's on you, guys, like you've got

1639
01:18:26,147 --> 01:18:28,387
Speaker 36: to turn it around and give them that chance. But

1640
01:18:29,027 --> 01:18:31,427
Speaker 36: moving forward and going into the World Cup, man, we

1641
01:18:31,547 --> 01:18:32,587
Speaker 36: have got some problems.

1642
01:18:33,187 --> 01:18:34,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have to do that, Glenn for

1643
01:18:34,907 --> 01:18:37,747
Speaker 3: this next test. I don't like, as I said a

1644
01:18:37,787 --> 01:18:40,787
Speaker 3: little while ago, they're out of time. They're basically all

1645
01:18:40,827 --> 01:18:42,987
Speaker 3: in on this team. I wouldn't imagine that there would

1646
01:18:42,987 --> 01:18:46,587
Speaker 3: be too many changes. They might look at something perhaps,

1647
01:18:46,667 --> 01:18:48,107
Speaker 3: I mean, I think so Tet will come into the

1648
01:18:48,147 --> 01:18:50,867
Speaker 3: starting side. I think that's one thing they'll do before

1649
01:18:53,027 --> 01:18:54,667
Speaker 3: Yeah to mighty yep, the other one yep.

1650
01:18:55,387 --> 01:18:56,907
Speaker 10: And they've got to start.

1651
01:18:58,347 --> 01:19:01,067
Speaker 36: Jordan is absolutely our fallback, like he's World Cup player.

1652
01:19:01,187 --> 01:19:03,747
Speaker 36: One bad game doesn't change that. But the guy had

1653
01:19:03,787 --> 01:19:07,667
Speaker 36: no support. No one else was taking box skips. He

1654
01:19:07,827 --> 01:19:09,947
Speaker 36: was the only one coming forward. Whether or not that

1655
01:19:10,107 --> 01:19:12,067
Speaker 36: was the plan, I don't know, but usually you see

1656
01:19:12,787 --> 01:19:17,627
Speaker 36: like wingers trying to help out as well, but didn't see.

1657
01:19:17,507 --> 01:19:17,827
Speaker 23: Any of that.

1658
01:19:19,147 --> 01:19:22,467
Speaker 3: I've enjoyia summary, Glenn. Thanks mate. Let's chat again when

1659
01:19:22,507 --> 01:19:25,147
Speaker 3: South Africa get here and we can reassess. I still

1660
01:19:25,147 --> 01:19:26,907
Speaker 3: think they'll want an Eden Park. I actually think they'll

1661
01:19:26,907 --> 01:19:28,707
Speaker 3: win that test match. I think there's so much emotion

1662
01:19:28,827 --> 01:19:31,307
Speaker 3: wrapped around it. It'll be Ardi's one hundredth not that

1663
01:19:31,347 --> 01:19:33,867
Speaker 3: it mattered with Cody's this morning, but I think they'll

1664
01:19:33,907 --> 01:19:36,827
Speaker 3: win at eden Park. Whether they can win both as

1665
01:19:36,867 --> 01:19:38,747
Speaker 3: a very different story. And there's a lot of work

1666
01:19:38,787 --> 01:19:41,947
Speaker 3: to do, and yeah, and what have we Now? We're

1667
01:19:41,987 --> 01:19:44,747
Speaker 3: in you know, we're midway in a World Cup cycle.

1668
01:19:45,627 --> 01:19:50,307
Speaker 3: I'm almost certain that severa Reese and Rico Yowani won't

1669
01:19:50,307 --> 01:19:52,707
Speaker 3: be starting on the wins in the opening game for

1670
01:19:52,827 --> 01:19:55,547
Speaker 3: the All Blacks at the next World Cup. Wally, Hello,

1671
01:19:57,027 --> 01:19:58,827
Speaker 3: Hey May, how's the game good? Thank you?

1672
01:19:59,027 --> 01:19:59,147
Speaker 38: Hey.

1673
01:19:59,227 --> 01:20:02,387
Speaker 39: Look, I'd like to say one thing the way the

1674
01:20:02,467 --> 01:20:05,027
Speaker 39: game is going, what's happened to the age minute footballer?

1675
01:20:05,947 --> 01:20:08,547
Speaker 39: What's all of these reserves and replacements and everything.

1676
01:20:08,747 --> 01:20:11,027
Speaker 13: I'm losing whole contexts of the game after half time?

1677
01:20:11,987 --> 01:20:14,707
Speaker 39: Yeah, what is this pleasant team that they put?

1678
01:20:14,747 --> 01:20:17,907
Speaker 3: Only you won't get an argument from me, mate, you

1679
01:20:17,987 --> 01:20:20,427
Speaker 3: might get an argument from me, especially around guys like halfbacks.

1680
01:20:20,627 --> 01:20:22,387
Speaker 3: It seems as though they have to change the halfback.

1681
01:20:22,587 --> 01:20:27,147
Speaker 3: It's almost compulsory now game. Yeah, carry on, Well it

1682
01:20:27,307 --> 01:20:27,627
Speaker 3: looked like.

1683
01:20:27,667 --> 01:20:29,107
Speaker 39: Last week if you're talking about half packs.

1684
01:20:29,147 --> 01:20:31,947
Speaker 8: But and I'm sorry best Scott Buried, I don't think.

1685
01:20:31,867 --> 01:20:32,507
Speaker 11: He's out keptain.

1686
01:20:32,907 --> 01:20:35,507
Speaker 39: You gotta get sorted, young mother like the tit. Give

1687
01:20:35,547 --> 01:20:36,707
Speaker 39: him a shot, make.

1688
01:20:36,707 --> 01:20:37,267
Speaker 35: Him to captain.

1689
01:20:38,227 --> 01:20:39,267
Speaker 15: Yeah, just change it.

1690
01:20:39,867 --> 01:20:42,747
Speaker 39: We need a young young foller andeer and ad him

1691
01:20:42,787 --> 01:20:45,667
Speaker 39: in a footballer and that's what we need.

1692
01:20:47,027 --> 01:20:47,227
Speaker 18: Yep.

1693
01:20:47,267 --> 01:20:50,067
Speaker 3: Can't doubt your passion, Wally, can't doubt your passion. And look,

1694
01:20:51,587 --> 01:20:53,147
Speaker 3: we all know it's a twenty three men game now

1695
01:20:53,347 --> 01:20:55,507
Speaker 3: and a lot of us learned for the old days

1696
01:20:55,547 --> 01:20:57,507
Speaker 3: when you you know, you just stayed out there, didn't you.

1697
01:20:58,227 --> 01:21:00,907
Speaker 3: But I still think there's a case a lot of

1698
01:21:00,947 --> 01:21:03,547
Speaker 3: the time for if if a halfback is playing well,

1699
01:21:03,827 --> 01:21:07,307
Speaker 3: like Roy Guard, leave him on good to chat while

1700
01:21:07,347 --> 01:21:07,827
Speaker 3: we got to move.

1701
01:21:07,947 --> 01:21:11,107
Speaker 40: Hey Gary, Yeah, good afternoon.

1702
01:21:12,787 --> 01:21:14,187
Speaker 20: Do you get the New Zealand Herald?

1703
01:21:14,707 --> 01:21:16,107
Speaker 18: I do yes?

1704
01:21:16,707 --> 01:21:21,507
Speaker 40: On the Wednesday the twentieth, Gregor Paul wrote, all Blacks, yes,

1705
01:21:21,787 --> 01:21:26,187
Speaker 40: yet to justify number one rank unless they beat the box.

1706
01:21:26,907 --> 01:21:30,147
Speaker 40: But these words have proved most prophetic. We aren't number

1707
01:21:30,227 --> 01:21:35,187
Speaker 40: one absolute exhibition overnight, but I put it down to this,

1708
01:21:36,347 --> 01:21:38,027
Speaker 40: the lime green boots.

1709
01:21:38,667 --> 01:21:44,707
Speaker 17: Weird were hell did come from Hey to beat them?

1710
01:21:45,147 --> 01:21:47,947
Speaker 40: We're known as all black? Why not we're all black boots.

1711
01:21:49,747 --> 01:21:52,027
Speaker 3: I knew some of was going to bring that up today, Gary, Sorry, man,

1712
01:21:52,027 --> 01:21:53,507
Speaker 3: I knew someone was going to say something about the

1713
01:21:53,547 --> 01:21:56,227
Speaker 3: boots today. There's all these I mean, whenever the all

1714
01:21:56,227 --> 01:21:59,587
Speaker 3: Blacks lose, there's all sorts of theories coming boots. Oh,

1715
01:21:59,627 --> 01:22:02,307
Speaker 3: they spending much time on the haka. They spent too

1716
01:22:02,347 --> 01:22:04,227
Speaker 3: much time on social media. Yeah. I don't think these

1717
01:22:04,267 --> 01:22:07,067
Speaker 3: things are at play. The boots are clearlyas thing. Otherwise

1718
01:22:07,107 --> 01:22:09,627
Speaker 3: they wouldn't wear them. Thanks Gary, Just on the on

1719
01:22:10,027 --> 01:22:14,067
Speaker 3: the razor media persona thing. I just wanted to touch

1720
01:22:14,107 --> 01:22:18,707
Speaker 3: on that from the earlier caller. I think he's definitely

1721
01:22:18,907 --> 01:22:21,467
Speaker 3: changed from the way he was when he was crusaders coach.

1722
01:22:22,707 --> 01:22:25,787
Speaker 3: When he was Crusader's coach, he was he was very happy,

1723
01:22:25,867 --> 01:22:30,147
Speaker 3: go lucky and and really good in the media and quirky,

1724
01:22:30,307 --> 01:22:32,187
Speaker 3: and he'd throw you something that was a bit different.

1725
01:22:32,587 --> 01:22:34,587
Speaker 3: I just think, for whatever reason, he's just being a

1726
01:22:34,627 --> 01:22:37,947
Speaker 3: bit more cautious as All Blacks coach and and I

1727
01:22:37,987 --> 01:22:41,107
Speaker 3: think he's almost caught between his personality and what he

1728
01:22:41,187 --> 01:22:43,747
Speaker 3: thinks the All Blacks coach diuld sound like that's just

1729
01:22:43,827 --> 01:22:46,507
Speaker 3: an observation because he used to be so good in

1730
01:22:46,627 --> 01:22:49,187
Speaker 3: media situations. It's almost like he's just, oh, it's a

1731
01:22:49,227 --> 01:22:51,787
Speaker 3: bit more serious now, doesn't have to be rich. Hello,

1732
01:22:53,507 --> 01:22:54,707
Speaker 3: how are you going good?

1733
01:22:55,987 --> 01:22:56,187
Speaker 34: Yeah?

1734
01:22:56,227 --> 01:23:01,227
Speaker 8: Look, I can't believe today's game. How I was absolutely

1735
01:23:01,307 --> 01:23:04,267
Speaker 8: in shock as to how they how they All Blacks

1736
01:23:04,307 --> 01:23:07,827
Speaker 8: play today, And it's been it's been ongoing for the

1737
01:23:07,947 --> 01:23:10,947
Speaker 8: last number of years and that. But when Scott Robinson

1738
01:23:11,027 --> 01:23:13,227
Speaker 8: first came into the side a few years ago or

1739
01:23:13,627 --> 01:23:15,107
Speaker 8: I thought everything.

1740
01:23:14,867 --> 01:23:15,667
Speaker 15: Was going to change.

1741
01:23:16,067 --> 01:23:20,507
Speaker 8: The Crusaders were adventurous, were expansive, hard working on the ball.

1742
01:23:21,187 --> 01:23:23,227
Speaker 8: That seems to have gone now now we're sort of

1743
01:23:23,307 --> 01:23:26,587
Speaker 8: going back to the kick and trace of the box kick.

1744
01:23:26,867 --> 01:23:31,787
Speaker 8: I just can't understand the frustration I feel with watching that.

1745
01:23:32,267 --> 01:23:33,947
Speaker 8: We went to that in the first couple of minutes.

1746
01:23:35,107 --> 01:23:38,787
Speaker 8: I just can't understand where we're coming where that's all

1747
01:23:38,827 --> 01:23:41,187
Speaker 8: come about from Regie.

1748
01:23:41,227 --> 01:23:43,507
Speaker 3: I think you're not. You're not the only one scratching

1749
01:23:43,547 --> 01:23:45,667
Speaker 3: their head, my friend, You're not the only one who's

1750
01:23:45,827 --> 01:23:49,347
Speaker 3: Who's I think worried or a little bit maybe confused

1751
01:23:49,387 --> 01:23:51,867
Speaker 3: that that right, that you're right after a year and

1752
01:23:51,907 --> 01:23:55,107
Speaker 3: a half near enough with their hands on the squad,

1753
01:23:55,227 --> 01:23:58,067
Speaker 3: that that where where we are now. We're in a

1754
01:23:58,147 --> 01:24:00,267
Speaker 3: point where we've just lost to Argentina for the first

1755
01:24:00,307 --> 01:24:02,627
Speaker 3: time in Argentina, We've got a couple of test matches

1756
01:24:02,627 --> 01:24:04,787
Speaker 3: against South Africa, which at best I think most of

1757
01:24:04,907 --> 01:24:08,707
Speaker 3: us would feel PESSI stick about, and you know, in

1758
01:24:08,747 --> 01:24:10,547
Speaker 3: the middle of a World Cup cycle, there is still

1759
01:24:10,707 --> 01:24:13,507
Speaker 3: time because we'll be judged well, these coaches will on

1760
01:24:13,667 --> 01:24:16,347
Speaker 3: what happens in two years time. But yeah, I think

1761
01:24:16,747 --> 01:24:18,747
Speaker 3: you probably land on a pretty good point that a

1762
01:24:18,827 --> 01:24:20,787
Speaker 3: lot of us thought that we would be in a

1763
01:24:20,827 --> 01:24:25,307
Speaker 3: different place twenty tests into the regime of Razor.

1764
01:24:26,867 --> 01:24:28,467
Speaker 8: We seem to be very fragile.

1765
01:24:29,107 --> 01:24:31,307
Speaker 15: I just or we just don't seem to be.

1766
01:24:31,587 --> 01:24:34,867
Speaker 8: I can't remember in today's game whether I saw a

1767
01:24:34,947 --> 01:24:38,027
Speaker 8: backline move, I can't remember it happened. It all seemed

1768
01:24:38,027 --> 01:24:40,707
Speaker 8: to be from scattered ball. We just seems to be

1769
01:24:40,787 --> 01:24:43,307
Speaker 8: in two minds our tactics. We need to get rid

1770
01:24:43,347 --> 01:24:45,547
Speaker 8: of the box keep. I think we're just we're using

1771
01:24:45,747 --> 01:24:48,667
Speaker 8: We're over using it too much. It's just so frustrating.

1772
01:24:49,267 --> 01:24:52,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rich, You're not the only one frustrated. Thanks for

1773
01:24:52,107 --> 01:24:53,787
Speaker 3: you call. Seven to one Used Talks.

1774
01:24:53,627 --> 01:24:58,147
Speaker 1: dB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

1775
01:24:58,347 --> 01:25:00,667
Speaker 2: Weekends for It with Jason pine.

1776
01:25:02,867 --> 01:25:05,907
Speaker 3: Talks eNB on Tech from Gunna Piney. We need to

1777
01:25:05,947 --> 01:25:08,507
Speaker 3: take a deep breath, calm down. Firstly, congrats to the Pumas.

1778
01:25:08,587 --> 01:25:11,027
Speaker 3: The sky isn't falling down. We haven't lost any competition,

1779
01:25:11,187 --> 01:25:13,067
Speaker 3: just got beaten on the day by a more committed

1780
01:25:13,427 --> 01:25:17,027
Speaker 3: and passionate Home Permas team. It sometimes happens. What I'm

1781
01:25:17,027 --> 01:25:19,827
Speaker 3: now really looking forward to for an all Blacks response

1782
01:25:20,107 --> 01:25:22,907
Speaker 3: against the box at the Garden in a couple of weeks.

1783
01:25:22,987 --> 01:25:25,587
Speaker 3: Can't wait, agreg and thanks for all your your calls

1784
01:25:25,627 --> 01:25:28,227
Speaker 3: and your feedback. After one the Warriors the.

1785
01:25:28,227 --> 01:25:32,987
Speaker 1: Wise the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1786
01:25:33,187 --> 01:25:37,027
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on weekends Forward with

1787
01:25:37,267 --> 01:25:42,107
Speaker 1: Jason Paine on your Home of Sport, US Talks.

1788
01:25:43,347 --> 01:25:48,027
Speaker 3: The News Talks MBN Weekend's fort one oh seven. Catherine says, finey,

1789
01:25:48,067 --> 01:25:50,427
Speaker 3: the neighbors got together to watch the All Blacks and

1790
01:25:50,507 --> 01:25:56,147
Speaker 3: have breakfast together. The best part was the breakfast. I'm

1791
01:25:56,187 --> 01:25:59,347
Speaker 3: sure the company was good to Catherine. Thank you, Thank

1792
01:25:59,387 --> 01:26:01,587
Speaker 3: you for all your feedback on the All Blacks. No

1793
01:26:01,667 --> 01:26:03,427
Speaker 3: doubt over the next couple of weeks there'll be much more.

1794
01:26:04,467 --> 01:26:06,347
Speaker 3: We're a couple of weeks away from that massive time

1795
01:26:06,627 --> 01:26:11,627
Speaker 3: match at Eden Park on the night of Saturday, September sixth.

1796
01:26:12,907 --> 01:26:16,747
Speaker 3: We'll be doing the show that day, incidentally, from the Kingslander,

1797
01:26:17,547 --> 01:26:20,307
Speaker 3: which is a bar not far from Eden Park, So

1798
01:26:20,347 --> 01:26:21,827
Speaker 3: I'd love for you to stop in and see us

1799
01:26:22,467 --> 01:26:26,507
Speaker 3: if you are in and around the area. But yeah, well,

1800
01:26:27,187 --> 01:26:29,707
Speaker 3: well we'll put the All Blacks off to one side

1801
01:26:30,787 --> 01:26:33,467
Speaker 3: for this afternoon because there are other things to discuss.

1802
01:26:33,707 --> 01:26:35,347
Speaker 3: In an hour or so, we want to talk Rugby

1803
01:26:35,387 --> 01:26:38,947
Speaker 3: World Cup and the Black Ferns first game Spain tomorrow morning.

1804
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:41,787
Speaker 3: Kendrick Coxsage has won the Rugby World Cup three times.

1805
01:26:42,267 --> 01:26:43,747
Speaker 3: She's gonna have a chat to us. We'll get to

1806
01:26:44,907 --> 01:26:51,507
Speaker 3: we'll get to Shield Country, Shield Country. Hamilton incredible finish

1807
01:26:51,587 --> 01:26:55,907
Speaker 3: to that game yesterday, blemisopol Langa kicking the penalty which

1808
01:26:56,307 --> 01:26:59,027
Speaker 3: took the log back to Hamilton to the the light.

1809
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:06,107
Speaker 3: No doubt of cow bell waving Mulu fans. We can

1810
01:27:06,387 --> 01:27:08,227
Speaker 3: open the lines to you if you like it after

1811
01:27:08,707 --> 01:27:11,267
Speaker 3: after two. I want to talk to American Sport as

1812
01:27:11,307 --> 01:27:13,307
Speaker 3: well James mcconey this hour, but I want to start

1813
01:27:13,387 --> 01:27:17,747
Speaker 3: with what happened on the Gold Coast yesterday. The Warriors

1814
01:27:18,987 --> 01:27:19,707
Speaker 3: get around it.

1815
01:27:20,507 --> 01:27:23,427
Speaker 6: Top four, Top four, the ree.

1816
01:27:23,427 --> 01:27:24,347
Speaker 2: Game winning form.

1817
01:27:24,387 --> 01:27:29,227
Speaker 3: They've won back to back weeks. There are two weeks.

1818
01:27:28,987 --> 01:27:32,667
Speaker 7: Away for the top four finighs to Warriors.

1819
01:27:33,507 --> 01:27:36,907
Speaker 41: Not their best win of the season, but at this

1820
01:27:37,187 --> 01:27:39,387
Speaker 41: end of the year, there's so much to play for.

1821
01:27:40,467 --> 01:27:42,827
Speaker 6: Get through, put the points of the beach and march

1822
01:27:42,907 --> 01:27:43,747
Speaker 6: on the next week.

1823
01:27:44,667 --> 01:27:50,107
Speaker 41: Full time Warriors thirty two the Titans eighty Yeah.

1824
01:27:50,307 --> 01:27:54,467
Speaker 3: A vintage performance from Roger to Ivasascheck has helped propel

1825
01:27:54,507 --> 01:27:57,387
Speaker 3: the Warriors to that thirty two to eighteen win over

1826
01:27:57,427 --> 01:28:00,827
Speaker 3: the Titans. He scored two of the warriors five tries,

1827
01:28:00,907 --> 01:28:04,187
Speaker 3: allowing them to snap a three game losing streak against

1828
01:28:04,227 --> 01:28:06,787
Speaker 3: the Titans, who inexplicably had been become a bit of

1829
01:28:06,827 --> 01:28:11,027
Speaker 3: a bogie team. For the Warriors, it also consolidates their

1830
01:28:11,107 --> 01:28:14,267
Speaker 3: spot in the top four and keeps their destiny in

1831
01:28:14,347 --> 01:28:17,987
Speaker 3: their own hands with two games to play before the playoffs. Now,

1832
01:28:17,987 --> 01:28:20,147
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this was certain before yesterday, but

1833
01:28:20,227 --> 01:28:22,467
Speaker 3: the Warriors now cannot fall out of the top eight.

1834
01:28:22,987 --> 01:28:26,147
Speaker 3: They will be playing playoff football. That might have been

1835
01:28:26,187 --> 01:28:28,507
Speaker 3: the case even before they kicked off last night, but

1836
01:28:28,667 --> 01:28:31,307
Speaker 3: as I look at the table, they cannot be overtaken

1837
01:28:31,747 --> 01:28:34,227
Speaker 3: in the top eight now. So we've got that locked away.

1838
01:28:34,307 --> 01:28:37,467
Speaker 3: But the top four will well and truly still be

1839
01:28:37,707 --> 01:28:39,787
Speaker 3: in their sights. Ken to open the lines and hear

1840
01:28:39,827 --> 01:28:42,307
Speaker 3: from you Warriors fans, but the team is about to

1841
01:28:42,347 --> 01:28:46,267
Speaker 3: fly out back to Auckland. Assistant coach Stacy Jones is

1842
01:28:46,507 --> 01:28:49,187
Speaker 3: on the line stage. Congratulations on the win last night

1843
01:28:49,307 --> 01:28:52,187
Speaker 3: as you wait to fly back. What stands out most

1844
01:28:52,187 --> 01:28:54,147
Speaker 3: about the win and about the performance from your team

1845
01:28:54,187 --> 01:28:54,587
Speaker 3: last night?

1846
01:28:55,347 --> 01:28:58,827
Speaker 34: Oh yeah, hey, Jasons, Yeah. Look, I thought we look

1847
01:28:58,867 --> 01:29:02,707
Speaker 34: pretty clinical with our attack, especially out on the edges,

1848
01:29:02,707 --> 01:29:06,587
Speaker 34: and we scored some nice tries. I thought, you know,

1849
01:29:06,707 --> 01:29:09,707
Speaker 34: our two edges kick chased really well, brock Aberry leading

1850
01:29:09,787 --> 01:29:12,427
Speaker 34: the leading the way on our right side and capable

1851
01:29:12,507 --> 01:29:14,387
Speaker 34: on the left side, and the boys went well with them.

1852
01:29:14,427 --> 01:29:17,307
Speaker 34: And then you know we forced you know Gold Coast

1853
01:29:17,307 --> 01:29:19,787
Speaker 34: to kick deep with them there in their half and

1854
01:29:20,067 --> 01:29:22,307
Speaker 34: our backfield, we were able to get some really good momentum.

1855
01:29:22,387 --> 01:29:24,507
Speaker 34: So there are two sort of pleasing parts of our game.

1856
01:29:24,587 --> 01:29:28,387
Speaker 34: And then defense, I thought, you know, we apart from

1857
01:29:28,547 --> 01:29:30,627
Speaker 34: him scoring in the first few minutes, I thought we

1858
01:29:30,747 --> 01:29:34,467
Speaker 34: held our line pretty well for the most and you know,

1859
01:29:34,587 --> 01:29:37,027
Speaker 34: they were they looked threatening when you know they put

1860
01:29:37,067 --> 01:29:39,987
Speaker 34: early kicks and behind us, and and maybe when they

1861
01:29:40,027 --> 01:29:42,027
Speaker 34: got an offload on us. But all in all, I thought,

1862
01:29:42,587 --> 01:29:44,467
Speaker 34: you know, we defended, defended really well.

1863
01:29:44,947 --> 01:29:49,387
Speaker 3: The halves combo, Chanelle and Tanner, the general play they're kicking,

1864
01:29:49,587 --> 01:29:51,667
Speaker 3: their partnership with one another. Do you reckon that was

1865
01:29:51,707 --> 01:29:53,827
Speaker 3: their best performance together this season?

1866
01:29:55,667 --> 01:29:55,867
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1867
01:29:55,947 --> 01:29:59,387
Speaker 34: Possibly, Jason. I you know, I haven't quite looked at

1868
01:29:59,387 --> 01:30:01,467
Speaker 34: the game closer enough you'd've watched half of it, but

1869
01:30:02,627 --> 01:30:04,787
Speaker 34: you know, they both complemented each other really well. I

1870
01:30:04,827 --> 01:30:09,347
Speaker 34: thought Tanner voids long long kicking game was spot on,

1871
01:30:09,507 --> 01:30:12,507
Speaker 34: and you know, Chanelle came up for a couple of

1872
01:30:12,587 --> 01:30:15,227
Speaker 34: nice touches too. So you know, having a left footed

1873
01:30:15,267 --> 01:30:17,227
Speaker 34: kicker and a right footed kicker certainly gives you some

1874
01:30:17,307 --> 01:30:17,867
Speaker 34: good options.

1875
01:30:18,467 --> 01:30:20,827
Speaker 3: How big a player is Roger Tivaisi check for you.

1876
01:30:22,107 --> 01:30:25,747
Speaker 34: Yeah, look, he certainly you know, he founder found a

1877
01:30:25,787 --> 01:30:28,107
Speaker 34: place from south there on the left wing, and you

1878
01:30:28,187 --> 01:30:29,907
Speaker 34: know he's really focused on what he wants and he's

1879
01:30:30,227 --> 01:30:32,467
Speaker 34: a good thing about him. You know, he's gone after

1880
01:30:32,587 --> 01:30:35,587
Speaker 34: the game, you know, when you know the Titans were

1881
01:30:35,627 --> 01:30:37,507
Speaker 34: kicking the ball back going, attitude was one that was

1882
01:30:37,547 --> 01:30:39,507
Speaker 34: getting a lot of a lot of benefits. And he

1883
01:30:39,547 --> 01:30:41,467
Speaker 34: certainly gets our sets going. And then you know when

1884
01:30:41,507 --> 01:30:42,827
Speaker 34: we kick the ball, he come up to a nice

1885
01:30:42,827 --> 01:30:45,547
Speaker 34: play where he tested the ball and got a tap

1886
01:30:45,627 --> 01:30:48,907
Speaker 34: back and Adam went over and scored. So but Rogers,

1887
01:30:48,987 --> 01:30:51,227
Speaker 34: you know, I think for the last sort of ten

1888
01:30:51,267 --> 01:30:52,867
Speaker 34: weeks he's been one of our best players.

1889
01:30:53,587 --> 01:30:55,867
Speaker 3: Can you talk also face about the development and the

1890
01:30:55,987 --> 01:30:58,587
Speaker 3: progress that you're seeing in your younger players?

1891
01:30:59,667 --> 01:31:02,107
Speaker 34: Yeah, yeah, really good. You know, I was just sitting

1892
01:31:02,147 --> 01:31:03,707
Speaker 34: here with Web and we're talking about some of the

1893
01:31:03,747 --> 01:31:05,947
Speaker 34: young kids and what you know they're output in the game,

1894
01:31:06,107 --> 01:31:09,347
Speaker 34: is you Tanna Sto was starting, you know and getting

1895
01:31:09,387 --> 01:31:13,027
Speaker 34: some really good minutes and then the Metric and Lekuer

1896
01:31:13,107 --> 01:31:16,387
Speaker 34: and Eddie year a Mia come on and then they

1897
01:31:16,507 --> 01:31:19,267
Speaker 34: players that you know, they've got good insts on them

1898
01:31:19,307 --> 01:31:23,547
Speaker 34: in particular Tanner and Eddie and Lecker and Dimitric. We

1899
01:31:23,667 --> 01:31:25,587
Speaker 34: know about their power and strength, but the other two,

1900
01:31:26,147 --> 01:31:28,107
Speaker 34: you know, they played big minutes. And you know we

1901
01:31:29,067 --> 01:31:32,787
Speaker 34: losing jackson Ford last night all sorry last week for

1902
01:31:33,147 --> 01:31:34,667
Speaker 34: a few weeks, you know, we thought it can be

1903
01:31:34,707 --> 01:31:37,267
Speaker 34: a big loss. But I thought Eddie and Tanner really

1904
01:31:37,307 --> 01:31:41,147
Speaker 34: stood up and took places what Jacko usually does for

1905
01:31:41,267 --> 01:31:42,227
Speaker 34: us in.

1906
01:31:42,307 --> 01:31:43,947
Speaker 3: Terms of the work ons. Do you do you look

1907
01:31:43,947 --> 01:31:45,947
Speaker 3: at the lake the two late crist You can see

1908
01:31:45,947 --> 01:31:47,747
Speaker 3: it even though the game was signed up by by

1909
01:31:47,787 --> 01:31:48,907
Speaker 3: the end, do you look at that?

1910
01:31:49,667 --> 01:31:51,707
Speaker 34: Yeah? Look, yeah, you know we do. You know that

1911
01:31:51,827 --> 01:31:54,387
Speaker 34: was disappointing parts of the game cross but you know

1912
01:31:54,467 --> 01:31:56,027
Speaker 34: that's a gold Coast can do. And we knew that

1913
01:31:56,107 --> 01:31:58,427
Speaker 34: they were going to move the board, get off loads

1914
01:31:58,467 --> 01:32:00,587
Speaker 34: and kick early on us, and you know, and it

1915
01:32:00,707 --> 01:32:02,667
Speaker 34: came off of them. You know, they're they're risky players,

1916
01:32:02,707 --> 01:32:05,347
Speaker 34: but they had to do something. But yeah, we're probably

1917
01:32:06,027 --> 01:32:08,067
Speaker 34: there's a moment now I thought we were. We had

1918
01:32:08,107 --> 01:32:09,747
Speaker 34: them on the ropes and we might have thrown a

1919
01:32:09,827 --> 01:32:11,827
Speaker 34: loose part and they got and got momentum down the

1920
01:32:11,867 --> 01:32:13,627
Speaker 34: other end. So that was the pointy part because we

1921
01:32:13,627 --> 01:32:17,267
Speaker 34: could have possible and scored a few more points.

1922
01:32:17,627 --> 01:32:20,107
Speaker 3: Did the recent record against the Titans get talked about

1923
01:32:20,147 --> 01:32:21,827
Speaker 3: it all in the build up to last night?

1924
01:32:22,547 --> 01:32:24,547
Speaker 34: Not at all, No, No, not at all. Yeah, we

1925
01:32:24,747 --> 01:32:26,947
Speaker 34: just sort of processed for them with what we need

1926
01:32:27,027 --> 01:32:30,387
Speaker 34: to do. You know, I think you know, they only

1927
01:32:30,427 --> 01:32:33,787
Speaker 34: probably talk around that was probably what you know, you

1928
01:32:33,867 --> 01:32:35,947
Speaker 34: guys were saying the media and all of that, you know,

1929
01:32:36,187 --> 01:32:39,307
Speaker 34: outside noisy, but we never mentioned all within our group.

1930
01:32:39,947 --> 01:32:41,667
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many key Wes live on

1931
01:32:41,707 --> 01:32:43,867
Speaker 3: the Gold Coast, but I think most of them must

1932
01:32:43,867 --> 01:32:45,267
Speaker 3: have been there last night. How was the crowd? It

1933
01:32:45,347 --> 01:32:46,067
Speaker 3: was like a home game.

1934
01:32:46,867 --> 01:32:48,867
Speaker 34: It was unreal. Yeah, it was like a home game.

1935
01:32:48,867 --> 01:32:51,587
Speaker 34: It felt like Yeah, Mount Smart or Go Mediate was

1936
01:32:51,747 --> 01:32:57,267
Speaker 34: was unreal the what we had and yeah, boys really

1937
01:32:57,867 --> 01:33:00,267
Speaker 34: really loved it and it was a great, great place

1938
01:33:00,307 --> 01:33:01,027
Speaker 34: to the last night.

1939
01:33:01,427 --> 01:33:04,147
Speaker 3: All right, just to finish. Top four remains in your

1940
01:33:04,187 --> 01:33:07,067
Speaker 3: own hands. How does the week week ahead look for

1941
01:33:07,187 --> 01:33:09,467
Speaker 3: you as you as you prepare for Parameta?

1942
01:33:10,267 --> 01:33:15,507
Speaker 34: Yeah, look, big day tomorrow for us. Tuesday off boys

1943
01:33:15,547 --> 01:33:18,547
Speaker 34: for freshing up, and then we focused on Parameta. So

1944
01:33:18,627 --> 01:33:21,467
Speaker 34: we've we've sort of got to look at review last

1945
01:33:21,547 --> 01:33:26,107
Speaker 34: last performance. Tomorrow and then yeah, crack on, but Paramta

1946
01:33:26,147 --> 01:33:29,147
Speaker 34: playing some really really good footing, so they're going to

1947
01:33:29,187 --> 01:33:30,867
Speaker 34: be it's gonna be a tough game for us. But

1948
01:33:31,547 --> 01:33:34,667
Speaker 34: you know, we know that, you know, if we put

1949
01:33:34,707 --> 01:33:36,827
Speaker 34: together a performance, we want to be in the top four.

1950
01:33:38,067 --> 01:33:39,347
Speaker 34: So it's in our ends.

1951
01:33:39,587 --> 01:33:42,307
Speaker 3: All right, have a relaxing flight home, Stace, thanks for taking.

1952
01:33:42,067 --> 01:33:43,707
Speaker 9: Our call mate pleasures.

1953
01:33:43,707 --> 01:33:45,147
Speaker 34: Thanks, no, thanks, no, thank you.

1954
01:33:45,187 --> 01:33:48,627
Speaker 3: Stacy, Stacy Jones, their assistant coach of the Warriors. All right,

1955
01:33:49,027 --> 01:33:51,107
Speaker 3: Warriors fans, let's hear from you are eight hundred and

1956
01:33:51,147 --> 01:33:54,107
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Now do we feel like a top

1957
01:33:54,147 --> 01:33:56,707
Speaker 3: four side? Over the last couple of weeks? I know

1958
01:33:56,747 --> 01:34:00,187
Speaker 3: there have been doubts. It's been a bit creaky. The

1959
01:34:00,267 --> 01:34:02,707
Speaker 3: win last week over the Dragons kind of steadied things,

1960
01:34:02,747 --> 01:34:04,907
Speaker 3: didn't it. But off the back of those losses to

1961
01:34:04,947 --> 01:34:09,227
Speaker 3: the Titans ironically Dolf Bulldogs, it was just a little

1962
01:34:09,267 --> 01:34:12,107
Speaker 3: bit shaky, wasn't it. Now back to back over the

1963
01:34:12,187 --> 01:34:15,827
Speaker 3: Dragons and the Titans last night. Let's not worry about

1964
01:34:15,827 --> 01:34:17,427
Speaker 3: how we'll go once we get there. Let's not worry

1965
01:34:17,427 --> 01:34:19,547
Speaker 3: about that for the moment. Let's talk about getting there

1966
01:34:20,227 --> 01:34:25,387
Speaker 3: the top four. It's tantalizingly close. Now as things stand,

1967
01:34:25,627 --> 01:34:28,667
Speaker 3: two games to go, Warriors, you get two points for

1968
01:34:28,747 --> 01:34:32,267
Speaker 3: a win. Let's just make that clear. Warriors thirty four points,

1969
01:34:33,027 --> 01:34:37,267
Speaker 3: Sharks thirty two, Panthers thirty one, Broncos thirty. Now they've

1970
01:34:37,307 --> 01:34:40,587
Speaker 3: got one more game to play. They visit Newcastle this afternoon,

1971
01:34:40,707 --> 01:34:44,827
Speaker 3: so come on the nights Roosters twenty eight. So the

1972
01:34:45,067 --> 01:34:47,827
Speaker 3: top four equation for the Warriors is starting to simplify itself.

1973
01:34:48,107 --> 01:34:50,627
Speaker 3: Win both of their remaining games and they're in that

1974
01:34:50,867 --> 01:34:55,227
Speaker 3: is that is certain. So it's in their own hands.

1975
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:58,227
Speaker 3: Beat the Eels on Friday night and the Sea Eagles

1976
01:34:58,267 --> 01:35:00,707
Speaker 3: away the following weekend and they're in the top four.

1977
01:35:00,947 --> 01:35:06,267
Speaker 3: Or win one of those games, while Cranulla and Bruce

1978
01:35:06,427 --> 01:35:09,507
Speaker 3: been both lose at least once and they're in the

1979
01:35:09,547 --> 01:35:14,947
Speaker 3: top four as well. So that's a that's an if scenario.

1980
01:35:15,547 --> 01:35:17,707
Speaker 3: But I think that the simple equation has just win

1981
01:35:17,827 --> 01:35:20,987
Speaker 3: both the games. Just win both the games. Are the

1982
01:35:21,027 --> 01:35:22,747
Speaker 3: other thing I've written down before we go to the lines,

1983
01:35:22,987 --> 01:35:24,347
Speaker 3: I think I wrote down as I watching that game

1984
01:35:24,387 --> 01:35:27,947
Speaker 3: last night, I just wrote down on my notepad, how

1985
01:35:28,027 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 3: good is Roger to Varsa shek My god, what a

1986
01:35:31,547 --> 01:35:36,147
Speaker 3: player he's been when there's been injury and unavailability and

1987
01:35:37,107 --> 01:35:42,747
Speaker 3: inconsistency and shuffling of players around. Roger to Varsa Shek

1988
01:35:42,907 --> 01:35:49,147
Speaker 3: has just absolutely stood up and that number five jersey

1989
01:35:49,227 --> 01:35:54,627
Speaker 3: for the Warriors. He is the epitome of leadership. And

1990
01:35:54,707 --> 01:35:56,867
Speaker 3: I'm loving the way he's playing, not just the tries

1991
01:35:57,307 --> 01:36:01,187
Speaker 3: he scored, but that contesting the ball in the air.

1992
01:36:01,227 --> 01:36:03,027
Speaker 3: We talked about the All Blacks not contesting that well

1993
01:36:03,067 --> 01:36:05,587
Speaker 3: in the air. Roger contesting in the air in the

1994
01:36:05,667 --> 01:36:07,947
Speaker 3: second half, knocking it back and leading to the try

1995
01:36:07,987 --> 01:36:12,587
Speaker 3: that Adam Pompey scored. Roger Tivasask can still play man

1996
01:36:12,627 --> 01:36:13,347
Speaker 3: even at thirty two.

1997
01:36:13,427 --> 01:36:17,987
Speaker 38: Hello Ellen, Yeah, good afternoon, Jason. Look, just briefly on

1998
01:36:18,547 --> 01:36:22,227
Speaker 38: to Vasishek, I was going to talk about something else.

1999
01:36:22,867 --> 01:36:26,107
Speaker 38: I think that you have to also take into account

2000
01:36:26,147 --> 01:36:29,987
Speaker 38: that Roger is playing not playing in his preferred position.

2001
01:36:30,627 --> 01:36:33,787
Speaker 38: Most of his NRL career has been at fullback. But

2002
01:36:33,987 --> 01:36:36,547
Speaker 38: he is such a he is such a good player

2003
01:36:37,547 --> 01:36:41,387
Speaker 38: that he can adapt pretty readily. I don't think that

2004
01:36:41,507 --> 01:36:43,387
Speaker 38: he's one of these people that's going to wind up

2005
01:36:43,427 --> 01:36:47,387
Speaker 38: in the forwards. I think that he's getting a bit

2006
01:36:47,467 --> 01:36:51,507
Speaker 38: older now of course, but he still maintains his speed,

2007
01:36:52,267 --> 01:36:55,787
Speaker 38: but his knowledge of the game and his league intelligence

2008
01:36:57,187 --> 01:36:59,147
Speaker 38: was right up there with the best of them. And

2009
01:36:59,627 --> 01:37:02,667
Speaker 38: it just shows that he can go into a his

2010
01:37:02,867 --> 01:37:05,867
Speaker 38: not preferred position and do so well. Look what I

2011
01:37:05,907 --> 01:37:11,707
Speaker 38: wanted to talk about was Tavida Harris. Now, he did

2012
01:37:11,867 --> 01:37:16,227
Speaker 38: such a great job on Jaden Campbell last night. Jaden

2013
01:37:16,347 --> 01:37:21,707
Speaker 38: Campbell is the Titans strike player, He's the go to guy,

2014
01:37:22,867 --> 01:37:26,827
Speaker 38: and Harris just got in his face and tackled him

2015
01:37:26,867 --> 01:37:29,867
Speaker 38: and put him down. And he made very very little

2016
01:37:29,987 --> 01:37:34,267
Speaker 38: yardage at all whole game, and it was mainly Tavida

2017
01:37:34,267 --> 01:37:37,107
Speaker 38: Harris that just turned up on him and put him down.

2018
01:37:37,547 --> 01:37:40,227
Speaker 38: And that's not an easy feat to do. We all

2019
01:37:40,347 --> 01:37:42,787
Speaker 38: know how good Jaden Campbell is. I mean, we've seen it.

2020
01:37:43,547 --> 01:37:47,227
Speaker 38: He is a brilliant, brilliant runner, and he's a great attacker,

2021
01:37:47,947 --> 01:37:50,947
Speaker 38: and Tavida Harris just shut him down. Since he's come

2022
01:37:51,107 --> 01:37:55,187
Speaker 38: back from his trip, I believe he's matured enormously in

2023
01:37:55,307 --> 01:38:00,827
Speaker 38: his league intelligence and I think he really now he

2024
01:38:00,987 --> 01:38:04,187
Speaker 38: seems to know exactly what he's going to do and

2025
01:38:04,307 --> 01:38:06,587
Speaker 38: why he's going to do it, and where he got

2026
01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:09,347
Speaker 38: that quick ball out to Adam Pompey last night. A

2027
01:38:09,827 --> 01:38:14,067
Speaker 38: great piece of improvisation. He knew where Pompey was and

2028
01:38:14,227 --> 01:38:16,667
Speaker 38: he got the ball out to him in a flash.

2029
01:38:17,107 --> 01:38:20,027
Speaker 38: And I just thought, along with a lot of other

2030
01:38:20,067 --> 01:38:23,987
Speaker 38: Warriors last night who all played well, I thought he

2031
01:38:24,187 --> 01:38:27,587
Speaker 38: was one of the standouts, along with Turvarsas Shek And

2032
01:38:27,707 --> 01:38:29,747
Speaker 38: the other thing I did want to say, Jason, is

2033
01:38:29,827 --> 01:38:33,427
Speaker 38: that it just shows when we get some of our

2034
01:38:33,547 --> 01:38:38,707
Speaker 38: first stringers back how good we can be Cape Kirkwell and.

2035
01:38:40,667 --> 01:38:43,267
Speaker 3: Barry Y Hardly hardly.

2036
01:38:43,387 --> 01:38:45,227
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, he has.

2037
01:38:45,187 --> 01:38:49,307
Speaker 38: Been genuinely missed. I believe you talk about Turvarsi Sheck

2038
01:38:49,347 --> 01:38:53,507
Speaker 38: condesting a catch. Look what Buried did the whole game.

2039
01:38:53,707 --> 01:38:55,827
Speaker 38: Soon as the ball went up from us, He's just

2040
01:38:56,067 --> 01:38:59,187
Speaker 38: followed that ball. I would have liked to have seen

2041
01:38:59,227 --> 01:39:01,787
Speaker 38: two or three other Warriors doing the same thing. But

2042
01:39:01,907 --> 01:39:04,427
Speaker 38: he achieved a lot by doing that because he kept

2043
01:39:04,467 --> 01:39:09,067
Speaker 38: them under pressure. He's just such a good center, and

2044
01:39:09,187 --> 01:39:12,667
Speaker 38: he's sort of come from a well, sort of a

2045
01:39:12,747 --> 01:39:15,627
Speaker 38: rugby background, I suppose. I don't believe that he's never

2046
01:39:15,667 --> 01:39:18,867
Speaker 38: played rugby league before he came to the Warriors, but

2047
01:39:18,987 --> 01:39:22,627
Speaker 38: he's such a good player. He looks everybody says how

2048
01:39:22,707 --> 01:39:26,987
Speaker 38: strong he is. He doesn't look like he's overly big guy.

2049
01:39:28,667 --> 01:39:32,427
Speaker 38: He's obviously one of these wiry characters. But my goodness me,

2050
01:39:32,587 --> 01:39:35,907
Speaker 38: can he play and can he defend? And it was

2051
01:39:35,987 --> 01:39:40,027
Speaker 38: such an authoritative display yesterday by the Warriors, particularly the

2052
01:39:40,107 --> 01:39:44,147
Speaker 38: first Haarriff. They literally controlled that game for sixty five minutes,

2053
01:39:44,307 --> 01:39:47,867
Speaker 38: and I mean controlled it, and they just kept a

2054
01:39:47,987 --> 01:39:50,187
Speaker 38: team that's supposed to be their bogie team that just

2055
01:39:50,267 --> 01:39:52,987
Speaker 38: kept them quiet. I think it was a great display.

2056
01:39:53,547 --> 01:39:55,987
Speaker 3: And a great summary from you, Ellen. I've got nothing

2057
01:39:55,987 --> 01:39:59,107
Speaker 3: to add. I agree about Chanelle Harris Devita. You know

2058
01:39:59,187 --> 01:40:01,147
Speaker 3: the fact that he found Pompy with that past, but

2059
01:40:01,187 --> 01:40:03,227
Speaker 3: also it was his kick. It was his kick that

2060
01:40:03,307 --> 01:40:05,187
Speaker 3: he put up, and you can see how delighted he

2061
01:40:05,307 --> 01:40:07,667
Speaker 3: was afterwards. And yea rocket, Harry. I know they've had

2062
01:40:08,067 --> 01:40:10,547
Speaker 3: players out and there are still players out metcalf and

2063
01:40:11,307 --> 01:40:14,467
Speaker 3: and you know Jackson Ford's now out for a week while,

2064
01:40:16,347 --> 01:40:20,027
Speaker 3: and you know they've they've really missed some players in

2065
01:40:20,067 --> 01:40:23,947
Speaker 3: this team, Mitch Barnett obviously, but Roccoberrett. They just look

2066
01:40:23,987 --> 01:40:26,307
Speaker 3: so much better with Roco out there, don't they so

2067
01:40:26,467 --> 01:40:30,267
Speaker 3: much better? Thanks? Ellen, appreciate your call very much. Hello, Greg.

2068
01:40:31,547 --> 01:40:32,707
Speaker 9: After Nion Jason.

2069
01:40:35,867 --> 01:40:40,947
Speaker 3: H gotch a deep in take of breath before before

2070
01:40:40,987 --> 01:40:42,227
Speaker 3: you made your point there.

2071
01:40:42,147 --> 01:40:45,707
Speaker 9: Greg, Well, I might be going to sound a little

2072
01:40:45,747 --> 01:40:49,867
Speaker 9: bit negative this afternoon, but the team they were playing

2073
01:40:50,147 --> 01:40:55,427
Speaker 9: are the bottom of the ladder. Now, the expectation from

2074
01:40:55,627 --> 01:40:58,987
Speaker 9: anybody who has a team that are in the top

2075
01:40:59,107 --> 01:41:03,027
Speaker 9: four would be that they would walk all over the

2076
01:41:03,107 --> 01:41:06,267
Speaker 9: bottom place team. And I know that the Titans are

2077
01:41:06,507 --> 01:41:12,067
Speaker 9: our bogie team. But for all the good that the

2078
01:41:12,147 --> 01:41:16,707
Speaker 9: Warriors did yesterday, there was those two tries at the

2079
01:41:16,827 --> 01:41:19,547
Speaker 9: end of the game which they left in, which you

2080
01:41:19,627 --> 01:41:24,547
Speaker 9: should never do if you're any team, basically, but top

2081
01:41:24,627 --> 01:41:29,467
Speaker 9: fourteen versus bottom team, that should never have happened. Now,

2082
01:41:29,467 --> 01:41:31,987
Speaker 9: I'm going to make a statement that it is not

2083
01:41:32,187 --> 01:41:36,667
Speaker 9: our year. And the reason why I say that is

2084
01:41:36,867 --> 01:41:40,747
Speaker 9: I watch the two games on Friday night and I

2085
01:41:40,987 --> 01:41:45,627
Speaker 9: feel that the Warriors are just not in those four

2086
01:41:45,707 --> 01:41:52,587
Speaker 9: teams ballpart. Those four teams are so professional, they have

2087
01:41:52,947 --> 01:41:57,907
Speaker 9: everything worked out to the letter, and I don't think

2088
01:41:58,027 --> 01:42:02,547
Speaker 9: that the Warriors are at there that level yet. I

2089
01:42:02,667 --> 01:42:06,587
Speaker 9: think maybe given one or two years time, with all

2090
01:42:06,627 --> 01:42:08,547
Speaker 9: the young guys that are coming through, and we all

2091
01:42:09,347 --> 01:42:12,267
Speaker 9: do go on about you know, the young talent that's coming. Well,

2092
01:42:12,707 --> 01:42:17,547
Speaker 9: yeah it's coming, but it's not there yet. So yeah,

2093
01:42:17,587 --> 01:42:20,067
Speaker 9: that's my cup and tape any worth for today.

2094
01:42:20,267 --> 01:42:21,747
Speaker 3: Now, Greg, I like it. I just want to ask

2095
01:42:21,787 --> 01:42:24,267
Speaker 3: a couple of questions. I think I don't think you'll

2096
01:42:24,267 --> 01:42:26,547
Speaker 3: get an argument from anybody listening. I think you look

2097
01:42:26,587 --> 01:42:28,467
Speaker 3: at the you look at the table, or you look

2098
01:42:28,467 --> 01:42:32,947
Speaker 3: at the teams and Raiders, Storm, Bulldogs, Panthers, the teams

2099
01:42:32,987 --> 01:42:35,107
Speaker 3: that you mentioned there who played on Friday night, I

2100
01:42:35,147 --> 01:42:37,467
Speaker 3: think you're right there are they are there are a

2101
01:42:37,507 --> 01:42:40,467
Speaker 3: cut above. The rest. Fact of the matter is though

2102
01:42:40,507 --> 01:42:43,387
Speaker 3: that if the Worries when the last two games, you

2103
01:42:43,467 --> 01:42:45,387
Speaker 3: know they'll be in the top four, and one of

2104
01:42:45,427 --> 01:42:47,907
Speaker 3: those teams won't be probably the Panthers. The other part

2105
01:42:47,947 --> 01:42:50,987
Speaker 3: about it is that, yeah, you're betting the Titans. It

2106
01:42:50,987 --> 01:42:53,707
Speaker 3: shouldn't be, you know, sung from the rooftops because they

2107
01:42:53,747 --> 01:42:55,667
Speaker 3: are bottom. But then I watched the Eels play the

2108
01:42:55,747 --> 01:42:58,227
Speaker 3: Roosters last night. He's the Roosters, you know, knocking around

2109
01:42:58,227 --> 01:43:00,187
Speaker 3: the top eight, and the Eels did a job on them.

2110
01:43:02,667 --> 01:43:05,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Roosters aren't the team that they were either.

2111
01:43:05,627 --> 01:43:09,027
Speaker 9: You know, they're in a in a rebuilding phase and

2112
01:43:09,147 --> 01:43:12,147
Speaker 9: all teams go through it. We've been rebuilding for for

2113
01:43:12,187 --> 01:43:15,867
Speaker 9: a few years, and I still think there's a few

2114
01:43:15,947 --> 01:43:19,707
Speaker 9: more years tool we actually have a squad that can

2115
01:43:19,827 --> 01:43:24,907
Speaker 9: put it with the best. I really think that the

2116
01:43:24,987 --> 01:43:27,547
Speaker 9: Warriors at the moment are actually a mid table team

2117
01:43:27,947 --> 01:43:30,667
Speaker 9: and are to a point lucky to be in the

2118
01:43:30,747 --> 01:43:31,187
Speaker 9: top four.

2119
01:43:33,307 --> 01:43:36,147
Speaker 3: Good level measured stuff from you, Greg. Look forward to

2120
01:43:36,187 --> 01:43:38,627
Speaker 3: chatting again as the playoffs get closer. I feel as

2121
01:43:38,667 --> 01:43:41,387
Speaker 3: they will beat their Eels at home on Friday, the

2122
01:43:41,467 --> 01:43:43,627
Speaker 3: Sea Eagles away. You just don't ever know, do you.

2123
01:43:44,027 --> 01:43:46,227
Speaker 3: With the Seagules they put fifty odd nearly sixty on

2124
01:43:46,307 --> 01:43:49,907
Speaker 3: the Dolphins last night. Still I think are in the mix.

2125
01:43:49,987 --> 01:43:52,387
Speaker 3: Somen'd they the Sea Eagles can still make the top eight. Yeah,

2126
01:43:52,387 --> 01:43:54,467
Speaker 3: they can. They're in two points behind the Roosters, so

2127
01:43:55,187 --> 01:43:57,147
Speaker 3: it may well be that they're playing for their top

2128
01:43:57,187 --> 01:43:59,707
Speaker 3: eight lives when we go there in a couple of

2129
01:43:59,747 --> 01:44:02,347
Speaker 3: weeks plus, it'll be daily Cherry Evans final game for

2130
01:44:02,427 --> 01:44:04,667
Speaker 3: the Sea Eagles, so there'll be a motion wrapped around

2131
01:44:04,667 --> 01:44:07,667
Speaker 3: it there as well as last done this last home game,

2132
01:44:07,747 --> 01:44:13,427
Speaker 3: potentially spending what happens in the finals. I still think, yes,

2133
01:44:14,227 --> 01:44:17,027
Speaker 3: having it in their hands I think does bring with

2134
01:44:17,187 --> 01:44:22,707
Speaker 3: it a high degree of motivation, and Greg, you're absolutely right.

2135
01:44:23,427 --> 01:44:26,067
Speaker 3: Anyone who's watched the NRL, and I know you've watched

2136
01:44:26,107 --> 01:44:29,827
Speaker 3: it extremely closely this year can see the quality and

2137
01:44:29,907 --> 01:44:33,307
Speaker 3: the Raiders and the Storm and the Bulldogs and the Panthers,

2138
01:44:33,347 --> 01:44:35,827
Speaker 3: those four sides who went hammer and tongs at one

2139
01:44:35,867 --> 01:44:41,147
Speaker 3: another the other night. But all the Warriors can do

2140
01:44:41,307 --> 01:44:47,067
Speaker 3: is be there and hopefully hopefully find something extra come

2141
01:44:47,147 --> 01:44:50,307
Speaker 3: finals time. Just to explain the finals, we shouldn't assume

2142
01:44:50,347 --> 01:44:53,707
Speaker 3: that everybody knows what happens and why finishing the top

2143
01:44:53,747 --> 01:44:56,867
Speaker 3: four is so important. The way the finals in the

2144
01:44:56,987 --> 01:45:01,387
Speaker 3: NRL are structured is that they split effectively into top

2145
01:45:01,467 --> 01:45:04,707
Speaker 3: four and then the teams five through eight, and the

2146
01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:09,027
Speaker 3: teams five through eight play elimination games five v eight

2147
01:45:09,187 --> 01:45:13,187
Speaker 3: and six v seven. The losers can start thinking about

2148
01:45:13,227 --> 01:45:18,507
Speaker 3: Mad Monday, they're out. The winners progress meantime one plays

2149
01:45:18,627 --> 01:45:22,947
Speaker 3: four and two plays three. The losers of those games

2150
01:45:22,987 --> 01:45:26,667
Speaker 3: get another crack and it's a game at home against

2151
01:45:26,707 --> 01:45:29,547
Speaker 3: the winners who come through from the bottom eight. So

2152
01:45:29,627 --> 01:45:31,387
Speaker 3: it does a couple of things. Finishing the top four.

2153
01:45:31,507 --> 01:45:35,467
Speaker 3: It guarantees you at least one home final and it

2154
01:45:35,547 --> 01:45:38,267
Speaker 3: gives you a second life. That's why it's so important.

2155
01:45:38,627 --> 01:45:41,307
Speaker 3: One twenty seven, Lyle, please hold made. I know you've

2156
01:45:41,307 --> 01:45:42,987
Speaker 3: been there a while. Get to you in just a moment.

2157
01:45:43,387 --> 01:45:44,947
Speaker 3: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We can talk

2158
01:45:44,987 --> 01:45:47,187
Speaker 3: worries for the next fifteen minutes or so plenty to

2159
01:45:47,307 --> 01:45:49,147
Speaker 3: unpack back in a moment.

2160
01:45:49,827 --> 01:45:51,667
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game.

2161
01:45:52,027 --> 01:45:57,107
Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Yne and TJ Gunnomes, New Zealand's.

2162
01:45:56,707 --> 01:45:58,907
Speaker 2: Most trusted home builder, news talks, they'd.

2163
01:45:58,747 --> 01:46:01,587
Speaker 3: Be news talks. There'll be one thirty Thanks folding, Lyle.

2164
01:46:01,627 --> 01:46:04,067
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, good mate.

2165
01:46:04,147 --> 01:46:08,027
Speaker 37: Look the tribe came to town Droves yesterday. I made

2166
01:46:08,067 --> 01:46:10,907
Speaker 37: of mind text me this morning instead. It took them

2167
01:46:10,947 --> 01:46:13,307
Speaker 37: two hours to be able to get onto a train

2168
01:46:13,387 --> 01:46:18,427
Speaker 37: to go home to Brisbane. Logan a logan up for

2169
01:46:18,467 --> 01:46:22,147
Speaker 37: a Coumra Pimpermar would have all been empty. They were there.

2170
01:46:22,187 --> 01:46:24,227
Speaker 37: It was a hell of a racket they made. Even

2171
01:46:24,307 --> 01:46:27,947
Speaker 37: with the TV turn down. The Harves impressed me the

2172
01:46:28,067 --> 01:46:30,627
Speaker 37: first sixty seconds that we were too flesh, but they

2173
01:46:30,707 --> 01:46:36,587
Speaker 37: managed to regain their composure. Look, yet number four sides

2174
01:46:36,587 --> 01:46:40,027
Speaker 37: should always beat a number sixteen or seventeen side easy.

2175
01:46:40,107 --> 01:46:42,107
Speaker 37: But the competition is a little bit different. You know,

2176
01:46:42,227 --> 01:46:45,267
Speaker 37: over the last few weeks we've had bottom sides beat

2177
01:46:45,347 --> 01:46:48,387
Speaker 37: top sides, so just to sort of say, oh no,

2178
01:46:48,467 --> 01:46:51,427
Speaker 37: you should always beat a little bit harsh. And the

2179
01:46:51,507 --> 01:46:55,427
Speaker 37: Titans are a side that can strike from anywhere, you know.

2180
01:46:55,787 --> 01:46:59,667
Speaker 37: So I think twenty twenty seven is probably going to

2181
01:46:59,707 --> 01:47:01,747
Speaker 37: be there year. I don't see it happening this year.

2182
01:47:01,827 --> 01:47:04,587
Speaker 37: The two games on Friday night were you know, several

2183
01:47:04,707 --> 01:47:07,587
Speaker 37: runners up of what the Warriors can we produce even

2184
01:47:07,627 --> 01:47:11,067
Speaker 37: on a good day. But look, I watched that other

2185
01:47:11,187 --> 01:47:13,667
Speaker 37: game this morning. Good god, you get a yellow card

2186
01:47:13,787 --> 01:47:17,667
Speaker 37: for farting in Union, don't you. I mean, the wonder

2187
01:47:17,787 --> 01:47:20,587
Speaker 37: people are turning away from the game. The good Father

2188
01:47:20,587 --> 01:47:21,827
Speaker 37: will be rolling in his grave.

2189
01:47:23,467 --> 01:47:26,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very different, different old game, lyle, different old game.

2190
01:47:27,027 --> 01:47:29,827
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was so impressed with the crowd there

2191
01:47:29,907 --> 01:47:31,307
Speaker 3: last night. I know a lot of Keywis live on

2192
01:47:31,347 --> 01:47:33,627
Speaker 3: the Gold Coast and in Brisbane. My niece's over there

2193
01:47:33,667 --> 01:47:36,067
Speaker 3: and she went to the game, sent some photos and

2194
01:47:36,227 --> 01:47:40,387
Speaker 3: looked amazing. Then the Titans should be much better than

2195
01:47:40,427 --> 01:47:44,027
Speaker 3: they are. Even the commentators were saying that last night,

2196
01:47:44,067 --> 01:47:46,507
Speaker 3: you look at the when they do attack, and I

2197
01:47:46,587 --> 01:47:48,507
Speaker 3: think they were making the point that when at the

2198
01:47:48,667 --> 01:47:51,907
Speaker 3: end they did score those those tries, those two tries

2199
01:47:51,987 --> 01:47:55,067
Speaker 3: near the end, by which stage the game had gone,

2200
01:47:55,747 --> 01:48:00,667
Speaker 3: it must have been infuriating for old Dezzy Hasler, the coach,

2201
01:48:00,747 --> 01:48:03,347
Speaker 3: and their fan base that they can't put it together.

2202
01:48:03,867 --> 01:48:05,987
Speaker 3: I mean, they are rock bottom, but when they do

2203
01:48:06,067 --> 01:48:07,827
Speaker 3: put it, get it, they're you know, they're a good

2204
01:48:07,827 --> 01:48:10,547
Speaker 3: attacking team. Just good to see the Warriors beat them

2205
01:48:10,947 --> 01:48:13,987
Speaker 3: after some of the trials and tribulations of recent years.

2206
01:48:14,027 --> 01:48:16,427
Speaker 3: Thanks loll appreciate it. Hey Bevan, how are you, mate?

2207
01:48:17,827 --> 01:48:18,067
Speaker 8: Jeff?

2208
01:48:19,107 --> 01:48:22,107
Speaker 30: Yeah, I don't quite understand why the Titans are the

2209
01:48:22,347 --> 01:48:26,667
Speaker 30: bogey team. I don't. I can't remember the last time

2210
01:48:26,707 --> 01:48:29,307
Speaker 30: the Warriors beat Storm and I think Storm of their

2211
01:48:29,347 --> 01:48:31,387
Speaker 30: bagey teams storm fashion every time.

2212
01:48:31,987 --> 01:48:32,187
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2213
01:48:32,307 --> 01:48:34,227
Speaker 3: I guess the difference with the Stormers that they just

2214
01:48:34,307 --> 01:48:36,307
Speaker 3: they beat just about everybody, don't they. I think.

2215
01:48:36,427 --> 01:48:36,587
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2216
01:48:36,627 --> 01:48:38,427
Speaker 3: The bogey with the with the Gold Coast Titans is

2217
01:48:38,467 --> 01:48:40,787
Speaker 3: that it's inexplicable, it's unexplainable.

2218
01:48:42,427 --> 01:48:45,387
Speaker 30: Yeah right, But I mean that still hasn't changed the

2219
01:48:45,467 --> 01:48:46,987
Speaker 30: fact that if they want to go all the way,

2220
01:48:47,027 --> 01:48:49,027
Speaker 30: they're going to have to get over the Storm, and

2221
01:48:50,787 --> 01:48:53,947
Speaker 30: they're a scary team. I mean, Balamie is just yeah,

2222
01:48:54,187 --> 01:48:56,267
Speaker 30: I think it's going to be a Storm Panther's final

2223
01:48:56,747 --> 01:48:58,147
Speaker 30: actually sorry Storm Raiders.

2224
01:48:58,787 --> 01:49:01,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched the Raiders the other night

2225
01:49:01,907 --> 01:49:03,507
Speaker 3: and just the way I know, I know that, you know,

2226
01:49:03,587 --> 01:49:05,947
Speaker 3: Nathan Cleary probably nine times out of ten, you know,

2227
01:49:06,427 --> 01:49:08,467
Speaker 3: puts that between the posts rather than hits the post.

2228
01:49:08,547 --> 01:49:10,347
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just like the way the Raiders have

2229
01:49:10,427 --> 01:49:12,667
Speaker 3: gone about things this year. I know that, you know that,

2230
01:49:12,827 --> 01:49:15,027
Speaker 3: you know how proud they are of their rugby league

2231
01:49:15,067 --> 01:49:17,027
Speaker 3: teams in Canberra, And yeah.

2232
01:49:18,267 --> 01:49:22,187
Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean Ricky Stewart, he wears his heart on

2233
01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:25,827
Speaker 30: his sleeve, but he's such a you know, he's like

2234
01:49:25,947 --> 01:49:28,587
Speaker 30: mal Maninger, right, He's a true and true Raiders. His

2235
01:49:28,707 --> 01:49:31,987
Speaker 30: blood's green and and you know, I kind of he's

2236
01:49:32,067 --> 01:49:35,547
Speaker 30: been through a bit of a bad patch with them.

2237
01:49:35,747 --> 01:49:39,067
Speaker 30: But it's good to see the Raiders back. I mean yeah,

2238
01:49:39,067 --> 01:49:40,707
Speaker 30: I mean I want the Storm to go, but I

2239
01:49:40,787 --> 01:49:42,467
Speaker 30: mean yeah, I think the Storm are going to find

2240
01:49:42,507 --> 01:49:45,987
Speaker 30: it really hard to get past that. There's some there's

2241
01:49:46,027 --> 01:49:47,827
Speaker 30: some super talent in that top four.

2242
01:49:48,507 --> 01:49:50,667
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like Raiders Storm to me. I don't

2243
01:49:50,667 --> 01:49:54,027
Speaker 3: know that that's not necessarily very bold claim. When you

2244
01:49:54,067 --> 01:49:57,027
Speaker 3: look at the table, it just feels like that's what

2245
01:49:57,107 --> 01:49:59,867
Speaker 3: we're headed for. Just like you know, whenever Penrith have

2246
01:49:59,987 --> 01:50:02,307
Speaker 3: been in and around the top two last couple of seasons,

2247
01:50:02,307 --> 01:50:04,787
Speaker 3: you almost feel like they're destined for the Grand Final,

2248
01:50:04,827 --> 01:50:08,627
Speaker 3: and they have been. And I may still have a say, Kevin,

2249
01:50:08,667 --> 01:50:10,267
Speaker 3: you know, I think if there was a one off

2250
01:50:10,307 --> 01:50:12,867
Speaker 3: game between the Panthers and the Warriors, I think favoritism

2251
01:50:12,907 --> 01:50:14,747
Speaker 3: would land in the lap of the Panthers, wouldn't it.

2252
01:50:14,747 --> 01:50:16,547
Speaker 3: But you know, Warrior's got to get there first and

2253
01:50:16,787 --> 01:50:17,787
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens from there.

2254
01:50:17,827 --> 01:50:21,907
Speaker 30: Eh, Yeah, totally, Yeah, I mean, and I think, you know,

2255
01:50:22,027 --> 01:50:23,947
Speaker 30: as we've sort of said, you know, if you would

2256
01:50:23,947 --> 01:50:28,107
Speaker 30: have taken top four for the Warriors, you would have

2257
01:50:28,187 --> 01:50:30,227
Speaker 30: taken it every day of the week. So you know,

2258
01:50:30,587 --> 01:50:32,987
Speaker 30: let's just see where they go, you know, let's just

2259
01:50:33,027 --> 01:50:36,907
Speaker 30: see how far they can go. Anything can happen. Thanks Jay,

2260
01:50:37,427 --> 01:50:37,827
Speaker 30: good on you be.

2261
01:50:37,907 --> 01:50:39,427
Speaker 3: I've always good to chat mate. Thanks for taking the

2262
01:50:39,467 --> 01:50:40,787
Speaker 3: time to call. Frank High.

2263
01:50:42,587 --> 01:50:46,467
Speaker 20: Yeah, Hi, Piney, I haven't been I've had an eye

2264
01:50:46,507 --> 01:50:49,227
Speaker 20: off for the last months and so so I haven't

2265
01:50:49,267 --> 01:50:53,987
Speaker 20: been a happy chappie, but very happy last night. At

2266
01:50:53,987 --> 01:50:56,827
Speaker 20: the beginning of the season, if they'd have said, look,

2267
01:50:57,147 --> 01:50:59,747
Speaker 20: we're two games to play Warriors will be in the

2268
01:50:59,827 --> 01:51:02,467
Speaker 20: top four, I think we'd have taken that. You know,

2269
01:51:02,747 --> 01:51:06,707
Speaker 20: it's just we're going to be playing the Eels next week.

2270
01:51:07,467 --> 01:51:10,827
Speaker 20: I think that we need a good game now to

2271
01:51:11,627 --> 01:51:15,067
Speaker 20: just sharpen us up. I know this Josh what's his

2272
01:51:15,227 --> 01:51:20,067
Speaker 20: name ade Okr and the Mitchell Moses that the two guys,

2273
01:51:20,107 --> 01:51:22,827
Speaker 20: and that Eels team that I'm a bit frightened of,

2274
01:51:22,947 --> 01:51:26,867
Speaker 20: But I do think we need now a team like

2275
01:51:26,987 --> 01:51:31,267
Speaker 20: the Eels too, if we can get past them. Okay,

2276
01:51:32,267 --> 01:51:34,707
Speaker 20: I don't think we're gonna We're not quite the standard

2277
01:51:34,787 --> 01:51:37,027
Speaker 20: of the Raiders, We're not quite the standard of the Storm,

2278
01:51:37,107 --> 01:51:42,507
Speaker 20: but if we get to play them, well, as long

2279
01:51:42,547 --> 01:51:46,187
Speaker 20: as we can lose, well, I know that sounds oxymolon,

2280
01:51:46,267 --> 01:51:50,187
Speaker 20: but but yeah, I just feel that we've done pretty

2281
01:51:50,227 --> 01:51:54,947
Speaker 20: well considering we've had so many injuries, and I just

2282
01:51:55,107 --> 01:51:58,107
Speaker 20: feel for the boys. I just I just love that team,

2283
01:51:58,187 --> 01:52:01,467
Speaker 20: and I think great they've done. They've done well, and

2284
01:52:01,587 --> 01:52:04,947
Speaker 20: I still think there's still a little hope there that

2285
01:52:05,067 --> 01:52:07,667
Speaker 20: we could just stir a bit even better.

2286
01:52:08,587 --> 01:52:12,387
Speaker 3: Frank, absolutely, and yeah, I love this team as well.

2287
01:52:12,507 --> 01:52:15,667
Speaker 3: I love watching them play. And you know, the fact is,

2288
01:52:15,707 --> 01:52:17,827
Speaker 3: as you say, after last year when they were thirteenth,

2289
01:52:18,347 --> 01:52:20,867
Speaker 3: wo'd buy your hand off the top eight. They were fourth,

2290
01:52:20,907 --> 01:52:23,067
Speaker 3: of course two years ago went on to lose in

2291
01:52:23,107 --> 01:52:25,667
Speaker 3: that preliminary final. But before that you've got to go

2292
01:52:25,747 --> 01:52:28,627
Speaker 3: a long way back before you find the Warriors in

2293
01:52:28,707 --> 01:52:30,067
Speaker 3: the top four. In fact, youve got to go back

2294
01:52:30,107 --> 01:52:33,147
Speaker 3: to two thousand and seven and here we are in

2295
01:52:33,227 --> 01:52:35,067
Speaker 3: the situation where they could be in the top four

2296
01:52:35,147 --> 01:52:38,307
Speaker 3: twice in three years. So yeah, and as you say,

2297
01:52:38,547 --> 01:52:40,907
Speaker 3: funny things happen in sport. You know who knows what

2298
01:52:41,027 --> 01:52:44,987
Speaker 3: happens when playoff football comes around? You just you just

2299
01:52:45,147 --> 01:52:45,507
Speaker 3: never know.

2300
01:52:47,627 --> 01:52:49,467
Speaker 20: Yep, thanks poney, yep, yep.

2301
01:52:49,547 --> 01:52:51,827
Speaker 3: No, good on your Frank. Enjoy chatting to you as always, mate,

2302
01:52:52,027 --> 01:52:56,827
Speaker 3: Stay well, hi, James, get how we going? Bonny good James,

2303
01:52:56,907 --> 01:52:58,227
Speaker 3: good good?

2304
01:52:58,547 --> 01:52:58,707
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2305
01:52:58,747 --> 01:53:00,027
Speaker 25: I could get the winter last night.

2306
01:53:00,307 --> 01:53:01,547
Speaker 34: But again it was.

2307
01:53:03,067 --> 01:53:07,067
Speaker 25: Frustrating at times, and one thing was the worry all year.

2308
01:53:07,827 --> 01:53:10,987
Speaker 25: I feel as they've really been struggling to hang on

2309
01:53:11,147 --> 01:53:15,467
Speaker 25: to momentum in games. They get up a couple of tries,

2310
01:53:15,947 --> 01:53:18,547
Speaker 25: they look to me going well, one or two things

2311
01:53:18,587 --> 01:53:20,667
Speaker 25: will go against them, and then they just lose the

2312
01:53:20,747 --> 01:53:25,027
Speaker 25: momentum and they just continuously let the opposition back into

2313
01:53:25,067 --> 01:53:28,707
Speaker 25: the game. And it's just been really frustrating all season.

2314
01:53:30,707 --> 01:53:33,107
Speaker 3: What's the fix on that, James, What is the Because

2315
01:53:33,467 --> 01:53:35,707
Speaker 3: you're right, I'm finding myself nodding my head. I can

2316
01:53:35,827 --> 01:53:38,107
Speaker 3: think of more than one occasion where, you know, the

2317
01:53:38,147 --> 01:53:40,267
Speaker 3: Warrior's got a couple of tries, right, we're on our way,

2318
01:53:40,307 --> 01:53:42,267
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it's level again or

2319
01:53:42,307 --> 01:53:44,347
Speaker 3: whatever it is. And even though last night, you know,

2320
01:53:44,467 --> 01:53:47,667
Speaker 3: those two late tries didn't actually affect the result, it's

2321
01:53:47,667 --> 01:53:49,907
Speaker 3: still you know, you'd still preferred You're still preferred to

2322
01:53:49,907 --> 01:53:52,827
Speaker 3: when thirty two six, wouldn't you, you know exactly?

2323
01:53:53,067 --> 01:53:55,627
Speaker 25: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's a mental thing,

2324
01:53:56,267 --> 01:53:58,707
Speaker 25: or you know, once once they get one or two

2325
01:53:58,747 --> 01:54:01,227
Speaker 25: penalties against them, they just they just seem to really

2326
01:54:01,347 --> 01:54:04,227
Speaker 25: struggle with keeping the foot on the throat. And just

2327
01:54:04,867 --> 01:54:07,387
Speaker 25: because last night it looked like they can easily pile

2328
01:54:07,827 --> 01:54:10,067
Speaker 25: twenty points on that Titan steam and they should have.

2329
01:54:10,107 --> 01:54:11,707
Speaker 25: They should just keep going and going and going.

2330
01:54:11,827 --> 01:54:13,467
Speaker 7: But I don't know what it is.

2331
01:54:13,587 --> 01:54:16,507
Speaker 25: They just let the foot off the throat and the

2332
01:54:16,587 --> 01:54:18,427
Speaker 25: other team gets back into it, and it just seems

2333
01:54:18,467 --> 01:54:19,267
Speaker 25: to happen every week.

2334
01:54:19,907 --> 01:54:22,427
Speaker 3: And I thought exactly the same thing when when Roger

2335
01:54:22,507 --> 01:54:26,347
Speaker 3: got his second try and what we're we're head then

2336
01:54:26,547 --> 01:54:29,707
Speaker 3: eighteen six and we'd only had twenty minutes. I thought, right,

2337
01:54:29,787 --> 01:54:31,507
Speaker 3: this is going to be you know, we're going to

2338
01:54:31,547 --> 01:54:33,587
Speaker 3: get We're going to put you know, forty five fifty

2339
01:54:33,667 --> 01:54:37,067
Speaker 3: on these blokes. But then it took and then yeah,

2340
01:54:37,147 --> 01:54:38,587
Speaker 3: and then but then it took ages, didn't it for

2341
01:54:38,627 --> 01:54:40,707
Speaker 3: there to be another try. I think the next try

2342
01:54:40,827 --> 01:54:43,307
Speaker 3: was on the hour mark when Pompey scored. So there

2343
01:54:43,347 --> 01:54:46,027
Speaker 3: was that period between sort of twenty minutes and sixty

2344
01:54:46,067 --> 01:54:47,827
Speaker 3: minutes where you know, there's a lot of hulf and

2345
01:54:47,907 --> 01:54:49,107
Speaker 3: puff but not a lot of outcome.

2346
01:54:49,187 --> 01:54:51,867
Speaker 25: Really, Yeah, it's like they go after the boil and

2347
01:54:51,947 --> 01:54:52,747
Speaker 25: I don't know why.

2348
01:54:53,507 --> 01:54:56,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh well, as long as look just before you

2349
01:54:56,347 --> 01:55:00,227
Speaker 3: go eels Sea Eagles, so Eels at home, Sea Eagles away.

2350
01:55:00,267 --> 01:55:02,547
Speaker 3: I don't think that's I feel like that's a pretty

2351
01:55:02,587 --> 01:55:06,467
Speaker 3: good kind of lead into to play off foot. A

2352
01:55:06,507 --> 01:55:08,467
Speaker 3: couple of wins there and then you you know, top

2353
01:55:08,547 --> 01:55:10,787
Speaker 3: four and then you know who knows.

2354
01:55:10,667 --> 01:55:13,907
Speaker 25: Ye, Yeah, well, they both had pretty good wines yesterday,

2355
01:55:14,027 --> 01:55:17,907
Speaker 25: so correct, yep. I'd say we should probably play well

2356
01:55:17,947 --> 01:55:20,467
Speaker 25: against the Eels at home next week and then anything

2357
01:55:20,507 --> 01:55:21,547
Speaker 25: can happen over and Manly.

2358
01:55:22,787 --> 01:55:25,747
Speaker 3: That's right, good yet to you, James. Thanks for taking

2359
01:55:25,827 --> 01:55:28,107
Speaker 3: to Tidler call and mate, I appreciate it very much.

2360
01:55:28,427 --> 01:55:31,107
Speaker 3: Drive safe twenty one away from two. All right, So

2361
01:55:31,227 --> 01:55:33,627
Speaker 3: Warriors next are at home on Friday nights. It's a

2362
01:55:33,667 --> 01:55:36,507
Speaker 3: bit of a bit of a short a shortish turnaround.

2363
01:55:36,547 --> 01:55:40,267
Speaker 3: I guess you'd say one less day than they perhaps

2364
01:55:40,267 --> 01:55:43,227
Speaker 3: would normally have the Saturday to the Friday, Friday night

2365
01:55:43,347 --> 01:55:47,467
Speaker 3: eight o'clock Eels. Massive game already, isn't It seems like

2366
01:55:47,507 --> 01:55:50,347
Speaker 3: every game is at the moment. But yeah, big game

2367
01:55:50,507 --> 01:55:55,067
Speaker 3: Warriors Eels Friday, and then the following week is the

2368
01:55:55,307 --> 01:55:58,787
Speaker 3: Friday again away at Manly. Like I said, I think

2369
01:55:58,787 --> 01:56:00,507
Speaker 3: that's quite a I think that's quite a good lead

2370
01:56:00,587 --> 01:56:02,387
Speaker 3: in to finals football.

2371
01:56:02,467 --> 01:56:02,587
Speaker 24: You know.

2372
01:56:02,867 --> 01:56:04,707
Speaker 3: I feel like if the Warriors can, can you know,

2373
01:56:04,787 --> 01:56:06,667
Speaker 3: win at home on Friday, which I think think they

2374
01:56:07,747 --> 01:56:09,307
Speaker 3: certainly can and I think they will, and then go

2375
01:56:09,387 --> 01:56:11,467
Speaker 3: to Manly and win, They're all of a sudden you're

2376
01:56:11,507 --> 01:56:13,307
Speaker 3: going into finals off the back of four straight wins

2377
01:56:14,027 --> 01:56:16,907
Speaker 3: and momentum. You know, I think some people believe in it,

2378
01:56:16,987 --> 01:56:19,107
Speaker 3: some people don't believe in it. But I think I'd

2379
01:56:19,187 --> 01:56:23,707
Speaker 3: rather go into the finals, you know, charging rather than stumbling.

2380
01:56:24,907 --> 01:56:27,107
Speaker 3: Thanks for all your causing feedback on the Warriors. Much

2381
01:56:27,147 --> 01:56:30,867
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Jason. Are you going to highlight Auckland f

2382
01:56:30,947 --> 01:56:33,147
Speaker 3: C's one overnight? Says this text? Are you we can

2383
01:56:33,227 --> 01:56:34,507
Speaker 3: do that? We can do that And in case you

2384
01:56:34,587 --> 01:56:36,867
Speaker 3: missed it, if you like Auckland FC into the semi

2385
01:56:36,947 --> 01:56:41,267
Speaker 3: finals of the Australia Cup on penalties, all that matters,

2386
01:56:41,307 --> 01:56:45,507
Speaker 3: says Chopper. Is Taranaki losing the shield, It's always why

2387
01:56:45,587 --> 01:56:47,947
Speaker 3: Kadow taking it off, as we should have taken the

2388
01:56:47,987 --> 01:56:50,427
Speaker 3: shot to make it twenty five twenty hard to take

2389
01:56:50,547 --> 01:56:53,987
Speaker 3: up the nak. Yeah we're going to talk Renfilly shield

2390
01:56:54,027 --> 01:56:57,467
Speaker 3: after two, but yeah, that game did turn on that

2391
01:56:57,587 --> 01:57:01,987
Speaker 3: moment late on they're what were they head twenty two

2392
01:57:02,107 --> 01:57:05,947
Speaker 3: twenty Josh Jacob instead of taking the shot a goal

2393
01:57:05,987 --> 01:57:09,387
Speaker 3: and with it it was his decision or the leadership team.

2394
01:57:10,147 --> 01:57:12,307
Speaker 3: They kicked for the line and he's kicked it dead.

2395
01:57:12,867 --> 01:57:14,707
Speaker 3: He must wake up this morning, Josh Jacomb and think man,

2396
01:57:14,707 --> 01:57:16,787
Speaker 3: I wish I had that one back down the other end.

2397
01:57:16,827 --> 01:57:20,627
Speaker 3: Why can't I get a penalty? Len Us Opewanga lands it?

2398
01:57:20,707 --> 01:57:23,387
Speaker 3: And here we are with why cufter in possession of

2399
01:57:23,387 --> 01:57:25,707
Speaker 3: the shield. We'll talk more about that after too. Let's

2400
01:57:25,707 --> 01:57:28,707
Speaker 3: take a break. We will come back and James mcconey

2401
01:57:28,747 --> 01:57:30,667
Speaker 3: will join us in his regular Sunday slot.

2402
01:57:31,507 --> 01:57:35,227
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

2403
01:57:35,267 --> 01:57:39,627
Speaker 1: Pyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

2404
01:57:41,427 --> 01:57:44,507
Speaker 3: Coming up quarters to two. Angus is emailed. You might remember.

2405
01:57:44,547 --> 01:57:47,147
Speaker 3: Angus is but a friend of the show's. He sort

2406
01:57:47,187 --> 01:57:50,867
Speaker 3: of phones in from far flung places. Get a piney says, no,

2407
01:57:50,907 --> 01:57:52,707
Speaker 3: you're not talking here f one today. I'm just in

2408
01:57:52,787 --> 01:57:56,227
Speaker 3: the Singapore Airlines Business Class Lounge, sipping a beer, listening

2409
01:57:56,267 --> 01:57:58,627
Speaker 3: to your show. We're heading to the Italian Formula one

2410
01:57:58,707 --> 01:58:01,987
Speaker 3: Grand Prix. Great stuff, Angus. That's got a place we

2411
01:58:02,067 --> 01:58:05,987
Speaker 3: normally find you. James mcconey in the Singapore Airlines Business

2412
01:58:06,427 --> 01:58:09,187
Speaker 3: Class Lounge in Monza.

2413
01:58:09,707 --> 01:58:13,067
Speaker 16: I mean that's awesome, Yeah, so.

2414
01:58:13,147 --> 01:58:18,627
Speaker 3: Good, so good. Hey, let's talk some rugby Championship All

2415
01:58:18,707 --> 01:58:21,507
Speaker 3: Blacks Argentina Historic day for the Permis. You've got to

2416
01:58:21,547 --> 01:58:22,387
Speaker 3: be happy for them, don't you.

2417
01:58:23,307 --> 01:58:26,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm I'm a big Pumis fan actually, and in fact,

2418
01:58:26,267 --> 01:58:30,467
Speaker 16: my favorite player, Thomas Albert Albornos got injured off really

2419
01:58:30,547 --> 01:58:33,427
Speaker 16: early in the game, clearly broke his hand, playing with

2420
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:36,507
Speaker 16: tears in his eyes by the looks of things, and

2421
01:58:37,067 --> 01:58:40,587
Speaker 16: they still won. So I actually think the way that

2422
01:58:40,907 --> 01:58:44,307
Speaker 16: they played, though, was exceptional and wasn't a good seeing

2423
01:58:44,467 --> 01:58:47,587
Speaker 16: a team from set face play run a strike move

2424
01:58:48,027 --> 01:58:52,147
Speaker 16: with about three or five crazy wild passes, wide ones

2425
01:58:52,187 --> 01:58:55,067
Speaker 16: as well, you know, massive like I was. I was

2426
01:58:55,147 --> 01:58:57,627
Speaker 16: just going, this is actually what I want to see

2427
01:58:57,707 --> 01:59:02,187
Speaker 16: it instead of even though they can keep it tight Argentina,

2428
01:59:02,907 --> 01:59:04,307
Speaker 16: they flung it around and I loved it.

2429
01:59:04,787 --> 01:59:07,587
Speaker 3: I did. Two. Should we be worried about the All

2430
01:59:07,667 --> 01:59:12,627
Speaker 3: Blacks with South Africa in coming in a fortnight Yeah?

2431
01:59:12,747 --> 01:59:15,707
Speaker 16: Yeah, always. I think the South Africans have shown that

2432
01:59:15,787 --> 01:59:18,187
Speaker 16: they they can grind this down in a game, but

2433
01:59:18,747 --> 01:59:21,307
Speaker 16: I think the All Blacks at full strength will be

2434
01:59:22,067 --> 01:59:25,547
Speaker 16: pretty formidable. I just think that for this particular test,

2435
01:59:25,667 --> 01:59:28,307
Speaker 16: there were a few hospital passes, and one was the selections.

2436
01:59:29,547 --> 01:59:32,667
Speaker 16: I thought, Simon Parker, you know, having to start at

2437
01:59:32,747 --> 01:59:35,027
Speaker 16: number eight in his very first Test, when he's played

2438
01:59:35,187 --> 01:59:38,507
Speaker 16: mainly number six for most of the year and also

2439
01:59:38,787 --> 01:59:42,307
Speaker 16: hasn't really played that much rugby recently. I thought that's

2440
01:59:42,347 --> 01:59:46,347
Speaker 16: a really big ask for him. And also see Josh Lord,

2441
01:59:46,387 --> 01:59:48,947
Speaker 16: who I mean, I'm a Chiefs fan. I have hardly

2442
01:59:49,027 --> 01:59:51,747
Speaker 16: seen Josh Lord play for the past three years. I

2443
01:59:51,827 --> 01:59:55,107
Speaker 16: think he's played three games in twenty twenty three, three

2444
01:59:55,187 --> 01:59:57,427
Speaker 16: games last year. I mean sorry, six games in twenty

2445
01:59:57,467 --> 02:00:00,147
Speaker 16: twenty three. Six games last year and this year I'd

2446
02:00:00,147 --> 02:00:03,787
Speaker 16: say be around about the same, if not less. And

2447
02:00:03,907 --> 02:00:06,547
Speaker 16: in one of those games he started and when off

2448
02:00:06,627 --> 02:00:09,587
Speaker 16: after ten minutes. So it's not exactly a really good

2449
02:00:09,667 --> 02:00:12,467
Speaker 16: runway to play test rugby. When you see someone like

2450
02:00:12,627 --> 02:00:16,667
Speaker 16: Sam Darry out there playing MPC. I mean, I just

2451
02:00:16,747 --> 02:00:20,547
Speaker 16: thought maybe that could they could look at something like that.

2452
02:00:20,667 --> 02:00:21,347
Speaker 16: The selections.

2453
02:00:21,827 --> 02:00:24,107
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the guy they need back is Cam Roygad.

2454
02:00:25,907 --> 02:00:29,027
Speaker 3: They honestly, I just don't know. I think having him

2455
02:00:29,067 --> 02:00:31,267
Speaker 3: back gives you a massive boost. I don't know what

2456
02:00:31,347 --> 02:00:33,787
Speaker 3: the latest does. Jason Holland didn't know when we spoke

2457
02:00:33,787 --> 02:00:36,627
Speaker 3: to him a couple of hours ago. I just hope

2458
02:00:36,667 --> 02:00:39,267
Speaker 3: Cam Roygads fit for those games well.

2459
02:00:39,387 --> 02:00:42,587
Speaker 16: Also the other thing is number seven. Okay, so Doc,

2460
02:00:42,867 --> 02:00:44,867
Speaker 16: if he started the last two tests at number seven,

2461
02:00:44,907 --> 02:00:47,107
Speaker 16: I thought we're talking about him. Last week. I thought

2462
02:00:47,147 --> 02:00:49,307
Speaker 16: he did really well. Okay, if you wanted to rest

2463
02:00:49,387 --> 02:00:51,867
Speaker 16: him and give other people a chance in their jersey,

2464
02:00:51,907 --> 02:00:54,067
Speaker 16: you've obviously got a you know, Hall of Famer and

2465
02:00:54,347 --> 02:00:57,107
Speaker 16: Ardie Savia there. But what is Peter Larky doing if

2466
02:00:57,107 --> 02:01:00,827
Speaker 16: he's been selected. I know Luke Jacobson is recovering from

2467
02:01:00,827 --> 02:01:03,427
Speaker 16: an injury because remember when they picked the squad, they

2468
02:01:03,467 --> 02:01:05,867
Speaker 16: had a few guys who were who were that were

2469
02:01:05,947 --> 02:01:09,987
Speaker 16: covering for injuries. But then like I played almost an

2470
02:01:10,107 --> 02:01:14,187
Speaker 16: entire Test against France last year in Paris and was exceptional.

2471
02:01:14,307 --> 02:01:16,747
Speaker 16: So you know, there are guys who've got the track

2472
02:01:16,827 --> 02:01:19,787
Speaker 16: record at test rugby who I think it's worth exploring

2473
02:01:19,867 --> 02:01:22,427
Speaker 16: and going for big, tall timber. When you looked at

2474
02:01:22,467 --> 02:01:26,627
Speaker 16: the way chocoba Is played his timing at second five,

2475
02:01:26,707 --> 02:01:28,867
Speaker 16: I men he plays for Toulouse in France. He plays

2476
02:01:29,147 --> 02:01:33,027
Speaker 16: elite rugby most of the time, and he was exceptional today.

2477
02:01:33,067 --> 02:01:35,907
Speaker 16: And just noticing that we only had one loose forward

2478
02:01:35,947 --> 02:01:37,707
Speaker 16: who you could say is a bit of a flyer,

2479
02:01:37,827 --> 02:01:41,067
Speaker 16: and that's already doing that kind of role on his own,

2480
02:01:41,707 --> 02:01:44,907
Speaker 16: just to me that the flow on effect was Argentina

2481
02:01:44,987 --> 02:01:49,507
Speaker 16: got uninterrupted ball. Where were our spoilers while sitting in

2482
02:01:49,667 --> 02:01:50,627
Speaker 16: blazers in the stand?

2483
02:01:51,067 --> 02:01:54,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly I said before and it's not new, but

2484
02:01:54,987 --> 02:01:57,787
Speaker 3: a big part of coaching is selection. So that twenty

2485
02:01:57,867 --> 02:01:59,987
Speaker 3: three for South Africa at Eden Park is going to

2486
02:02:00,027 --> 02:02:02,907
Speaker 3: be so fascinating to see what they do, what twigs

2487
02:02:02,907 --> 02:02:05,907
Speaker 3: they make, who they can bring back. Yeah, it's a

2488
02:02:06,107 --> 02:02:11,187
Speaker 3: very interesting proposition. Hey, Warriors, I was just.

2489
02:02:11,187 --> 02:02:14,227
Speaker 16: Going to say one one last thing. Scott Barrett is

2490
02:02:14,387 --> 02:02:16,987
Speaker 16: clearly fighting to get back in to form and I

2491
02:02:17,067 --> 02:02:19,187
Speaker 16: think we rely on him a little bit too much

2492
02:02:19,267 --> 02:02:22,347
Speaker 16: to start and play and he can't be He's it's

2493
02:02:22,387 --> 02:02:25,227
Speaker 16: impossible to give him time because Patrick Tupole or two

2494
02:02:25,307 --> 02:02:28,107
Speaker 16: is injured. But Scott Barrett at his best as absolute

2495
02:02:28,147 --> 02:02:30,547
Speaker 16: world class and he did some amazing things today. But

2496
02:02:30,627 --> 02:02:32,627
Speaker 16: you can tell he's still fighting to get back into

2497
02:02:32,707 --> 02:02:34,987
Speaker 16: form and he shouldn't have to do that in pivotal

2498
02:02:35,067 --> 02:02:36,947
Speaker 16: test matches, if you know what I mean. But it's just,

2499
02:02:37,787 --> 02:02:40,147
Speaker 16: you know, it's like we have to even though he's

2500
02:02:40,147 --> 02:02:41,907
Speaker 16: still struggling for that fitness and form.

2501
02:02:42,267 --> 02:02:43,747
Speaker 3: Well, We're out of time now, aren't we. We're out

2502
02:02:43,787 --> 02:02:45,707
Speaker 3: of time. There's no more games. Yeah, you know, so

2503
02:02:46,547 --> 02:02:51,427
Speaker 3: he kind of yeah, if you don't, Yeah, exactly right. Hey,

2504
02:02:51,467 --> 02:02:53,547
Speaker 3: Warry is one last night, So the Gold Coast Titans

2505
02:02:53,587 --> 02:02:55,427
Speaker 3: are no longer a bogey team for us.

2506
02:02:57,027 --> 02:02:58,987
Speaker 16: I know, how good was that? But also, I mean,

2507
02:02:59,067 --> 02:03:00,867
Speaker 16: the story of the day, and I think your callers

2508
02:03:00,907 --> 02:03:03,627
Speaker 16: have identified it really well was rodded to as seck

2509
02:03:04,267 --> 02:03:08,467
Speaker 16: so two of the forty five running meters eighty six

2510
02:03:08,627 --> 02:03:12,587
Speaker 16: post contact meters. I mean, it's just exceptional stuff from Roger.

2511
02:03:13,107 --> 02:03:15,387
Speaker 16: But I did run into him earlier on in the

2512
02:03:15,467 --> 02:03:18,227
Speaker 16: year when he was in at Sky and I asked

2513
02:03:18,267 --> 02:03:20,867
Speaker 16: him about where he wanted to play and where he

2514
02:03:21,027 --> 02:03:23,147
Speaker 16: was happy to play, and he told me that he

2515
02:03:23,187 --> 02:03:25,347
Speaker 16: said to where he'd just give me a position and

2516
02:03:25,507 --> 02:03:27,187
Speaker 16: tell me that's where I'm going to play, and I'll

2517
02:03:27,227 --> 02:03:29,907
Speaker 16: be happy and I'll try and nail that role. That's

2518
02:03:29,987 --> 02:03:32,507
Speaker 16: all he wanted. He wasn't buying into any of that

2519
02:03:32,667 --> 02:03:35,467
Speaker 16: fullback chat at all. He just said, tell me where

2520
02:03:36,387 --> 02:03:38,347
Speaker 16: you want me to play, And when he found out

2521
02:03:38,387 --> 02:03:40,947
Speaker 16: it was the wing, he said, sweet, happy with that.

2522
02:03:41,187 --> 02:03:43,187
Speaker 16: And of course you hear him when He was interviewed

2523
02:03:43,227 --> 02:03:45,707
Speaker 16: last night talking about the pride of that left edge

2524
02:03:46,227 --> 02:03:49,867
Speaker 16: with Chanelle, Harris de Vitas and you know Lequer and others.

2525
02:03:50,307 --> 02:03:53,027
Speaker 16: You know, just what they've done all year. He loves

2526
02:03:53,107 --> 02:03:55,867
Speaker 16: being out there. And you look at the stats he

2527
02:03:56,307 --> 02:03:59,747
Speaker 16: and Charles Nickel clocks that are really sharing the fullback

2528
02:03:59,787 --> 02:04:02,187
Speaker 16: twoties when you look at the way they build the

2529
02:04:02,267 --> 02:04:05,507
Speaker 16: sets themselves. And Charms wasn't too bad as well with

2530
02:04:05,627 --> 02:04:08,867
Speaker 16: nearly two hundred meters last night and seventy post contact meters.

2531
02:04:08,947 --> 02:04:12,707
Speaker 16: So those two guys in our backfield one reason why

2532
02:04:12,747 --> 02:04:16,787
Speaker 16: the Warriors and Warriors fans can have some hope moving

2533
02:04:16,827 --> 02:04:17,707
Speaker 16: into the postseason.

2534
02:04:18,147 --> 02:04:20,307
Speaker 3: I love that about Roger to I Vasishik. I love

2535
02:04:20,427 --> 02:04:22,867
Speaker 3: that that even at his you know, at his stage

2536
02:04:22,907 --> 02:04:26,107
Speaker 3: of his career, he's done everything. Magnificent player, just a

2537
02:04:26,267 --> 02:04:29,067
Speaker 3: generational rugby league player, just says okay, will you tell

2538
02:04:29,107 --> 02:04:31,147
Speaker 3: me where you want me to play and I'll perfect

2539
02:04:31,227 --> 02:04:33,947
Speaker 3: that role. That's magnificent. What an attitude, man.

2540
02:04:34,907 --> 02:04:37,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's just a it's incredible to see. And also,

2541
02:04:37,187 --> 02:04:39,147
Speaker 16: I mean if you've seen him on League Lounge on Sky,

2542
02:04:39,307 --> 02:04:42,787
Speaker 16: he comes on with Sean Johnson speaking of such things,

2543
02:04:42,867 --> 02:04:46,187
Speaker 16: Sean absolutely natural as a TV's quite sickning for someone

2544
02:04:46,267 --> 02:04:52,107
Speaker 16: like myself. But Roger is an incredible guest, really insightful,

2545
02:04:52,187 --> 02:04:55,067
Speaker 16: loves to just give a little bit of information, educating

2546
02:04:55,147 --> 02:04:58,747
Speaker 16: everybody along the way. And he's very fun as well,

2547
02:04:58,907 --> 02:04:59,467
Speaker 16: lots of fun.

2548
02:05:00,107 --> 02:05:00,347
Speaker 10: Love it.

2549
02:05:00,707 --> 02:05:03,547
Speaker 3: Hey, have you plotted the parade route for the for

2550
02:05:03,627 --> 02:05:04,747
Speaker 3: the ran Furly Shield.

2551
02:05:05,627 --> 02:05:08,747
Speaker 16: Well, I'm hoping it does come around my place at

2552
02:05:08,827 --> 02:05:12,547
Speaker 16: Tata tu in west Auckland, but I'm not sure will.

2553
02:05:13,147 --> 02:05:16,107
Speaker 16: I'll be running my own operation out here. I'll put

2554
02:05:16,187 --> 02:05:19,507
Speaker 16: some others on Poney and he'll be quite confronting for

2555
02:05:19,627 --> 02:05:23,347
Speaker 16: some of the neighbors. But that shield victory. The only

2556
02:05:23,467 --> 02:05:26,387
Speaker 16: thing wrong were the white cuto shorts. Did you see

2557
02:05:26,427 --> 02:05:26,867
Speaker 16: those shorts?

2558
02:05:26,907 --> 02:05:27,107
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2559
02:05:27,147 --> 02:05:27,987
Speaker 3: What would they look like?

2560
02:05:28,067 --> 02:05:28,427
Speaker 2: They've been?

2561
02:05:28,547 --> 02:05:30,547
Speaker 3: They were dirty? What was going on with those?

2562
02:05:31,107 --> 02:05:31,307
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2563
02:05:31,347 --> 02:05:34,027
Speaker 16: The dirty shorts now need to be put in the

2564
02:05:34,347 --> 02:05:38,787
Speaker 16: Hamilton Museum along with Lemosopolwana's kicking tea because it failed

2565
02:05:38,867 --> 02:05:42,627
Speaker 16: him and he's lucky to get that penalty away, the

2566
02:05:42,707 --> 02:05:45,587
Speaker 16: ball slipping off the tee and the countdown progressing like

2567
02:05:45,707 --> 02:05:49,147
Speaker 16: a NASA countdown. I was like, get that kick away.

2568
02:05:49,747 --> 02:05:51,787
Speaker 16: But yeah, the shorts were terrible. I think it was

2569
02:05:51,827 --> 02:05:55,027
Speaker 16: because of the clash of uniforms. They were allowed to

2570
02:05:55,067 --> 02:05:58,827
Speaker 16: wear the tricolors of red, yellow and black as long

2571
02:05:58,867 --> 02:06:02,267
Speaker 16: as they had different shorts, and they chose dare I say,

2572
02:06:02,307 --> 02:06:03,627
Speaker 16: a sort of a brownie gray.

2573
02:06:03,787 --> 02:06:04,987
Speaker 19: It was terrible, the.

2574
02:06:05,467 --> 02:06:09,067
Speaker 3: Terrible color for shorts. Absolutely terrible. Good on your mate, Yeah,

2575
02:06:09,067 --> 02:06:10,787
Speaker 3: it was like one of those movies when you when

2576
02:06:10,827 --> 02:06:14,227
Speaker 3: the guy's diffusing a bomb as the as the you know,

2577
02:06:14,347 --> 02:06:16,467
Speaker 3: the counter counts down to zero. He just got the

2578
02:06:16,547 --> 02:06:18,987
Speaker 3: kick away Lema and won the shield for White Cutter.

2579
02:06:19,067 --> 02:06:21,667
Speaker 3: Always great chatting, James. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, mate.

2580
02:06:21,707 --> 02:06:23,547
Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week. Seven to two News

2581
02:06:23,587 --> 02:06:24,027
Speaker 3: Talks V.

2582
02:06:25,587 --> 02:06:27,827
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

2583
02:06:28,027 --> 02:06:32,707
Speaker 1: on Weekends Sports with Jason Pine News.

2584
02:06:32,587 --> 02:06:35,387
Speaker 3: Talks, V News Talks a B three and a half

2585
02:06:35,467 --> 02:06:38,987
Speaker 3: to two already after two o'clock we're going to check

2586
02:06:39,027 --> 02:06:42,547
Speaker 3: them with Kendra cos Edge, triple Rugby World Cup winner

2587
02:06:42,787 --> 02:06:45,067
Speaker 3: with the Black Ferns her thoughts ahead of New Zealand's

2588
02:06:45,067 --> 02:06:48,347
Speaker 3: first game at the twenty twenty five edition against Spain

2589
02:06:48,427 --> 02:06:53,467
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning, and we'll celebrate White Cuttle's acquisition of the

2590
02:06:53,547 --> 02:06:55,787
Speaker 3: log of Wood and take your stateside as well with

2591
02:06:55,907 --> 02:06:57,587
Speaker 3: the latest from US Sport News.

2592
02:06:57,667 --> 02:06:57,827
Speaker 8: Next.

2593
02:06:59,387 --> 02:07:02,227
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest floors, issues

2594
02:07:02,387 --> 02:07:04,067
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

2595
02:07:04,587 --> 02:07:08,547
Speaker 2: It's all on Weekend Sport. Jason Vane on your home

2596
02:07:08,587 --> 02:07:10,947
Speaker 2: of Sports News Talk.

2597
02:07:12,387 --> 02:07:15,147
Speaker 3: Hello there, welcome into weekends, fort Welcome back to Weekend Sport.

2598
02:07:15,187 --> 02:07:17,827
Speaker 3: It's been a longer edition today we got underway. It

2599
02:07:17,867 --> 02:07:20,987
Speaker 3: seems like about five hours ago when the final whistle

2600
02:07:21,027 --> 02:07:23,627
Speaker 3: Blue and Buenos series. It's only seven minutes past two.

2601
02:07:24,907 --> 02:07:27,107
Speaker 3: But it's been fun being with you for a longer

2602
02:07:27,147 --> 02:07:30,307
Speaker 3: period these last couple of weekends between now and three

2603
02:07:30,347 --> 02:07:33,227
Speaker 3: o'clock when Tim Beveridge takes the mic for the Weekend Collective.

2604
02:07:33,227 --> 02:07:35,747
Speaker 3: If I want to talk Women's Rugby World Cup, New

2605
02:07:35,867 --> 02:07:40,907
Speaker 3: Zealand start their defense tomorrow morning against Spain four thirty.

2606
02:07:40,947 --> 02:07:45,507
Speaker 3: New Zealand time should be relatively comfortable, let's hope. So anyway,

2607
02:07:45,867 --> 02:07:49,147
Speaker 3: tougher fish to fry or bigger fish to fry? Ahead,

2608
02:07:50,227 --> 02:07:53,027
Speaker 3: what are our chances of frying those fish? Kendra Coxage

2609
02:07:53,347 --> 02:07:56,827
Speaker 3: has won the Rugby World Cup three times with New Zealand,

2610
02:07:56,907 --> 02:07:59,787
Speaker 3: including the most recent that was her final test. Actually,

2611
02:08:00,107 --> 02:08:02,507
Speaker 3: she's an to join us to preview New Zealand's chances

2612
02:08:02,547 --> 02:08:05,867
Speaker 3: against Spain and the rest. We'll get you to a

2613
02:08:06,027 --> 02:08:09,147
Speaker 3: White I talk where they've got the Ramfilly shield keen

2614
02:08:09,187 --> 02:08:12,467
Speaker 3: of here from some White cuttle fans actually cowbells and

2615
02:08:12,547 --> 02:08:14,787
Speaker 3: all the shield is yours. I thought that had it

2616
02:08:15,027 --> 02:08:17,667
Speaker 3: far more recently than they had. I said yesterday. They

2617
02:08:17,667 --> 02:08:19,107
Speaker 3: seem to have it all the time. They've been hated

2618
02:08:19,147 --> 02:08:23,147
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen. It's been a while. It's been a while.

2619
02:08:23,147 --> 02:08:25,147
Speaker 3: And some guys in that team, like Limasopowanga is in

2620
02:08:25,227 --> 02:08:27,907
Speaker 3: that team, he's never had the shield. Only the second

2621
02:08:27,947 --> 02:08:30,387
Speaker 3: time he's had the chance to challenge for it. Seems

2622
02:08:30,427 --> 02:08:32,587
Speaker 3: like some guys get you know, six or seven goes

2623
02:08:32,627 --> 02:08:36,867
Speaker 3: at it anyway. Limasopowoga is on the show. Leon Busby

2624
02:08:36,987 --> 02:08:39,827
Speaker 3: takes his state side NFL season not too far away.

2625
02:08:40,427 --> 02:08:43,307
Speaker 3: NBA and MLB news as well. We'll keep an eye

2626
02:08:43,307 --> 02:08:46,547
Speaker 3: on live sport for you. Two under the roof in Dunedin, Otago,

2627
02:08:46,667 --> 02:08:50,827
Speaker 3: Leed Counties, Manico nineteen seven. Half an hour gone in

2628
02:08:50,947 --> 02:08:54,907
Speaker 3: their bunnings in PC match right now. Our lines remain

2629
02:08:54,987 --> 02:08:58,267
Speaker 3: open all afternoon. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty correspond

2630
02:08:58,347 --> 02:09:00,747
Speaker 3: by text of that's easier ninet two niney two or

2631
02:09:00,787 --> 02:09:03,947
Speaker 3: emails into Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot Nz.

2632
02:09:04,147 --> 02:09:07,067
Speaker 3: But eight past two it is we always do on

2633
02:09:07,147 --> 02:09:09,347
Speaker 3: weekend sported around about this time. It's time to get

2634
02:09:09,427 --> 02:09:10,747
Speaker 3: you up to date with some of the stuff you

2635
02:09:10,787 --> 02:09:12,747
Speaker 3: might have missed. Now there is a whole heap to

2636
02:09:12,827 --> 02:09:17,067
Speaker 3: get through. A bumper edition of Incasia missed it. Starting

2637
02:09:17,107 --> 02:09:20,627
Speaker 3: in the Buddings MPC Macca Springer having a field day

2638
02:09:20,667 --> 02:09:24,867
Speaker 3: for Tasman against North Harbor at Albany thirty meters out.

2639
02:09:24,947 --> 02:09:27,307
Speaker 5: They come back left and a nice past the maccas

2640
02:09:27,307 --> 02:09:31,347
Speaker 5: Springer is in space wonder beat a way.

2641
02:09:31,467 --> 02:09:34,347
Speaker 3: That's four four tries for Macca Springer in a forty

2642
02:09:34,387 --> 02:09:39,667
Speaker 3: three to nineteen win for Tasman. Meantime, Auckland's miserable season continues,

2643
02:09:39,787 --> 02:09:43,027
Speaker 3: beaten by Northland at Eden Park for the first time

2644
02:09:43,147 --> 02:09:44,427
Speaker 3: since two thousand and eight.

2645
02:09:44,787 --> 02:09:47,907
Speaker 42: Daily again Charlie to kick charge and we talked by

2646
02:09:47,947 --> 02:09:51,387
Speaker 42: Alan Craig. Alick Craig's gonna gallop over the twilight and

2647
02:09:51,587 --> 02:09:54,307
Speaker 42: score it for Northland twenty four mil under.

2648
02:09:54,347 --> 02:09:56,987
Speaker 3: The Sticks had finished forty three to twenty four to

2649
02:09:57,227 --> 02:10:01,027
Speaker 3: the tunny FAA to the Rugby Championship. South Africa gained

2650
02:10:01,067 --> 02:10:04,067
Speaker 3: revenge over the Wallabies for what they did at Ellis

2651
02:10:04,107 --> 02:10:07,107
Speaker 3: Park last week. Victory for South Africa in Cape Town.

2652
02:10:08,187 --> 02:10:09,827
Speaker 3: Jesse Creole in with the keys.

2653
02:10:10,947 --> 02:10:13,987
Speaker 6: Who's that you can he put it?

2654
02:10:14,067 --> 02:10:15,787
Speaker 2: It's the nation mark on the game.

2655
02:10:17,387 --> 02:10:20,587
Speaker 3: You have an itzabit with an ex test track one

2656
02:10:20,707 --> 02:10:24,147
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five caps, thirty twenty two the

2657
02:10:24,227 --> 02:10:26,507
Speaker 3: final score to the spring box. If you've just woken up.

2658
02:10:26,627 --> 02:10:29,067
Speaker 3: Argentina have made history, been in the All Blacks on

2659
02:10:29,187 --> 02:10:30,827
Speaker 3: home Saul for the first time and.

2660
02:10:31,107 --> 02:10:34,747
Speaker 5: It is over twenty nine to twenty three. And what

2661
02:10:34,947 --> 02:10:40,787
Speaker 5: a side is He's bouncing Argentina. They did it in Paramatta,

2662
02:10:41,587 --> 02:10:44,587
Speaker 5: they did it in christ Church, they did it in Wellington,

2663
02:10:45,667 --> 02:10:47,747
Speaker 5: but now they do it's in their capital.

2664
02:10:47,987 --> 02:10:50,667
Speaker 3: Twenty nine twenty three the final. Let's go to the NRL.

2665
02:10:51,467 --> 02:10:55,627
Speaker 3: Manly celebrated daily Cherry Evans three hundred and fiftieth match

2666
02:10:56,027 --> 02:10:57,507
Speaker 3: in style and Tonal.

2667
02:10:57,267 --> 02:11:00,627
Speaker 42: Fois again quarter a poll as to hop A writing don't.

2668
02:11:00,467 --> 02:11:03,267
Speaker 6: You killing up turbos there again?

2669
02:11:04,507 --> 02:11:10,867
Speaker 41: It is probable Philly they're carving the Dolphins to ribbons.

2670
02:11:11,147 --> 02:11:14,587
Speaker 3: Fifty eight thirty to Manly over the Dolphins the Warriors,

2671
02:11:14,627 --> 02:11:17,427
Speaker 3: as we've heard this afternoon, going back to back, helped

2672
02:11:17,467 --> 02:11:20,587
Speaker 3: by two tries from Roger to Ivasashik. Now for Regan,

2673
02:11:20,747 --> 02:11:21,627
Speaker 3: head out for boy.

2674
02:11:22,267 --> 02:11:26,547
Speaker 6: I'm harrister, be so good, cot be up to about

2675
02:11:26,627 --> 02:11:29,707
Speaker 6: to check he's got a double lodger.

2676
02:11:30,067 --> 02:11:32,707
Speaker 3: Thirty to eighteen over the Titans and the Eels, putting

2677
02:11:32,707 --> 02:11:35,627
Speaker 3: a bit of a dent in the Rooster's top eight hopes.

2678
02:11:35,467 --> 02:11:38,627
Speaker 42: Hoses with the kid turning junior two, perm had to

2679
02:11:38,747 --> 02:11:39,627
Speaker 42: jump from the field of.

2680
02:11:39,667 --> 02:11:42,347
Speaker 7: Play and desperately's words of him.

2681
02:11:42,427 --> 02:11:42,667
Speaker 11: Four.

2682
02:11:42,987 --> 02:11:43,707
Speaker 2: It's a time.

2683
02:11:44,507 --> 02:11:47,427
Speaker 42: It's a columby, a calumny.

2684
02:11:47,107 --> 02:11:50,867
Speaker 3: For the rooms at Bay, a thirty teen win for

2685
02:11:50,947 --> 02:11:54,547
Speaker 3: the Eels to Football's Premier League, a goalkeeping era helping

2686
02:11:54,667 --> 02:11:57,707
Speaker 3: Spurs beat Manchester City. It's a horrendous moment.

2687
02:11:57,987 --> 02:12:02,947
Speaker 43: It's Rischarlison, It's Chutelina and it's two for Tottenham and

2688
02:12:03,107 --> 02:12:07,987
Speaker 43: Manchester City have only got themselves to blame. Trafford Courts

2689
02:12:08,147 --> 02:12:10,027
Speaker 43: in the most uncomfortable the stout.

2690
02:12:09,827 --> 02:12:12,427
Speaker 3: Lights to Nilda Spurs. They're equal on points at the

2691
02:12:12,467 --> 02:12:16,467
Speaker 3: top with North London neighbors Arsenal, who put Leeds United

2692
02:12:16,587 --> 02:12:17,667
Speaker 3: to the sword.

2693
02:12:17,587 --> 02:12:22,307
Speaker 41: Down Wind goes down que has a pink penalty past

2694
02:12:22,387 --> 02:12:25,387
Speaker 41: awn does make an impact of windsor penalty for Arsenal.

2695
02:12:25,947 --> 02:12:30,547
Speaker 41: Victor yocras the perfect damage to the perfect day for

2696
02:12:30,787 --> 02:12:32,307
Speaker 41: Arsenal five nil.

2697
02:12:32,467 --> 02:12:35,667
Speaker 3: The final score instill the football. Auckland FC through to

2698
02:12:35,747 --> 02:12:38,827
Speaker 3: the semi finals of the Australia Cup courtesy of a

2699
02:12:38,907 --> 02:12:41,627
Speaker 3: penalty shootout, went over Sydney FC last night.

2700
02:12:41,627 --> 02:12:44,827
Speaker 44: To Lollly already on the score sheet this evening. Oh,

2701
02:12:44,987 --> 02:12:48,067
Speaker 44: he slips like he's slipped all night and that's it.

2702
02:12:48,547 --> 02:12:51,507
Speaker 44: And we wondered if a slip would prove the crucial moment.

2703
02:12:51,787 --> 02:12:55,107
Speaker 44: And at the most crucial moments it is a slip

2704
02:12:55,307 --> 02:12:59,227
Speaker 44: from toe Lollly that has sent Auckland into the semifinals.

2705
02:12:59,467 --> 02:13:01,867
Speaker 3: Back up to the northern hemispheres. Some big wins and

2706
02:13:01,947 --> 02:13:04,947
Speaker 3: Paul play at the Women's Rugby World Cup Australia over

2707
02:13:05,067 --> 02:13:08,867
Speaker 3: Samua Os. Sheee she can rip that right to left.

2708
02:13:08,787 --> 02:13:12,107
Speaker 42: Pass, can't she is Piper Duck accelerates.

2709
02:13:11,467 --> 02:13:13,787
Speaker 6: Through crines, Frederick's t hols.

2710
02:13:14,147 --> 02:13:18,347
Speaker 3: The Kid's got a double seventy three nil there Scotland

2711
02:13:18,387 --> 02:13:19,427
Speaker 3: over Wales.

2712
02:13:19,227 --> 02:13:24,187
Speaker 42: Sublime for the fire half Muttonson to all lacerating Whales.

2713
02:13:24,547 --> 02:13:28,827
Speaker 3: Old Cigars thirty eight points to eight in Canada over Fiji.

2714
02:13:29,307 --> 02:13:32,267
Speaker 3: Canada win the line out at the back and here

2715
02:13:32,347 --> 02:13:37,387
Speaker 3: Ain't count thundering towards the tryline. And there's another one

2716
02:13:37,667 --> 02:13:40,507
Speaker 3: and it's Karen park Count who has the score for

2717
02:13:40,627 --> 02:13:44,147
Speaker 3: Canada sixty five points to seven and circling back to

2718
02:13:44,347 --> 02:13:48,627
Speaker 3: domestic rugba to finish. The log of Wood has changed hands.

2719
02:13:48,827 --> 02:13:51,867
Speaker 6: Seventy nine minutes gone. It's twenty two, twenty to ten.

2720
02:13:52,027 --> 02:13:52,307
Speaker 8: Lucky.

2721
02:13:52,667 --> 02:13:56,827
Speaker 6: The ball comes over Peckham. He's got fifteen seconds. He

2722
02:13:56,907 --> 02:14:00,507
Speaker 6: can't get the ball on the team God drama. Ten seconds.

2723
02:14:00,787 --> 02:14:04,747
Speaker 6: He's got it there now he's back, he's forward, he's

2724
02:14:04,867 --> 02:14:09,987
Speaker 6: kicked it. The flare up? Why Callow at the front?

2725
02:14:10,627 --> 02:14:11,427
Speaker 6: What drama?

2726
02:14:13,347 --> 02:14:15,947
Speaker 1: The school from the track field and the court on

2727
02:14:16,107 --> 02:14:20,107
Speaker 1: your home of Sport, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine, News.

2728
02:14:19,987 --> 02:14:24,747
Speaker 3: Talks, NB News Talks inb and Weekend Sport fourteen past two.

2729
02:14:24,827 --> 02:14:27,467
Speaker 3: The Black Ferns open their Rugby World Cup title defense

2730
02:14:27,467 --> 02:14:31,107
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning, four point thirty our time against Spain. Let's

2731
02:14:31,147 --> 02:14:34,347
Speaker 3: bring in sixty eight test. Former Black Ferns halfback twenty

2732
02:14:34,427 --> 02:14:39,067
Speaker 3: eighteen Kel Tremaine Memorial Trophy winner and rugby World Cup

2733
02:14:39,147 --> 02:14:43,227
Speaker 3: winner in twenty ten, twenty seventeen and twenty twenty two.

2734
02:14:43,427 --> 02:14:46,707
Speaker 3: Kendra Cox Edge of course, Kendra, How optimistic should we

2735
02:14:46,867 --> 02:14:50,067
Speaker 3: feel about the Black Ferns chances of winning what would

2736
02:14:50,107 --> 02:14:51,587
Speaker 3: be a third straight World Cup?

2737
02:14:52,427 --> 02:14:55,827
Speaker 27: Well, I think we should be heavily optimistic obviously, you know.

2738
02:14:55,947 --> 02:14:57,867
Speaker 27: I guess there's a lot of a lot of pressure

2739
02:14:58,187 --> 02:15:00,347
Speaker 27: in terms of obviously winning the last one and then

2740
02:15:00,347 --> 02:15:03,307
Speaker 27: obviously England and England and in England obviously performing pretty

2741
02:15:03,307 --> 02:15:07,507
Speaker 27: well and potentially going up against them that. Yeah, I think, yeah,

2742
02:15:07,507 --> 02:15:08,947
Speaker 27: I think we've got to be optimistic about it. And

2743
02:15:09,067 --> 02:15:09,867
Speaker 27: we did it last time.

2744
02:15:09,987 --> 02:15:10,827
Speaker 8: So yeah.

2745
02:15:10,947 --> 02:15:14,787
Speaker 3: So just the four official tests for the Black Ferns

2746
02:15:14,947 --> 02:15:16,987
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, in that game against the New

2747
02:15:17,067 --> 02:15:20,067
Speaker 3: Zealand fifteen, is that sufficient build up or would they

2748
02:15:20,067 --> 02:15:20,867
Speaker 3: have liked a bit more?

2749
02:15:21,827 --> 02:15:24,067
Speaker 27: No, I think the build up's been, you know, being fine,

2750
02:15:24,107 --> 02:15:26,987
Speaker 27: and I've obviously done stuff with their camps and whatnot,

2751
02:15:26,987 --> 02:15:28,907
Speaker 27: and they've worked towards what they need and need to do.

2752
02:15:29,067 --> 02:15:30,467
Speaker 27: I mean, it's always good if you can get as

2753
02:15:30,507 --> 02:15:33,387
Speaker 27: many games as you can, but just just been able

2754
02:15:33,427 --> 02:15:36,187
Speaker 27: to play, you know, I'll back that they've done enough

2755
02:15:36,227 --> 02:15:37,987
Speaker 27: and it's probably no different to any other World Cup

2756
02:15:38,027 --> 02:15:38,667
Speaker 27: prip that we've had.

2757
02:15:39,027 --> 02:15:41,307
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the New Zealand squad. The

2758
02:15:41,347 --> 02:15:44,707
Speaker 3: outside backs and this team are so exciting. Renee Holmes,

2759
02:15:44,787 --> 02:15:49,267
Speaker 3: Asha Lettieinger, Braxton Sorenson McGee, Caitlin Carlo and of course

2760
02:15:49,307 --> 02:15:52,987
Speaker 3: Porscha Woodman Woodcliffe. How much of New Zealand's strategy will

2761
02:15:53,027 --> 02:15:55,707
Speaker 3: be about getting the ball wide to such dangerous players

2762
02:15:55,827 --> 02:15:56,027
Speaker 3: like that.

2763
02:15:57,067 --> 02:15:59,267
Speaker 24: Well, I think that's probably how a New Zealand player, right.

2764
02:15:59,347 --> 02:16:01,587
Speaker 27: We've played a lot of expensive footy, and I know

2765
02:16:01,667 --> 02:16:03,387
Speaker 27: that we wouldn't have exposed a lot of our game

2766
02:16:03,427 --> 02:16:07,187
Speaker 27: plans throughout the game's previous to Worldcar and there will

2767
02:16:07,227 --> 02:16:09,067
Speaker 27: happily a few kind of tricks up the sleeve. But

2768
02:16:09,547 --> 02:16:11,227
Speaker 27: I think you know, when you've got a players on

2769
02:16:11,307 --> 02:16:13,467
Speaker 27: the art size like that, that can light it up

2770
02:16:13,507 --> 02:16:15,267
Speaker 27: and at the same time, people are going to think

2771
02:16:15,267 --> 02:16:16,947
Speaker 27: that we're probably going to do that. So it might

2772
02:16:17,027 --> 02:16:20,027
Speaker 27: be an opportunity to use our quality midfielders with you know,

2773
02:16:20,147 --> 02:16:23,027
Speaker 27: Sylvia Stacey and Theresa set to find it, Amy du Forsu.

2774
02:16:23,107 --> 02:16:25,627
Speaker 27: We've got some quality midfielders as well that would be

2775
02:16:25,667 --> 02:16:28,347
Speaker 27: obviously to you know, take up in the middle if

2776
02:16:28,387 --> 02:16:29,667
Speaker 27: we need to, and then we've got a great board

2777
02:16:29,707 --> 02:16:30,987
Speaker 27: pack to do the same thing to.

2778
02:16:31,067 --> 02:16:34,307
Speaker 3: Your old position. Kendra halfback. All three half backs off

2779
02:16:34,347 --> 02:16:37,347
Speaker 3: to their first Rugby World Cup at a tana Hire Maya,

2780
02:16:37,467 --> 02:16:40,747
Speaker 3: Joseph Rissiliana PODi Lane. How do you evaluate the half

2781
02:16:40,787 --> 02:16:41,827
Speaker 3: back strength in the squad?

2782
02:16:42,507 --> 02:16:44,427
Speaker 24: Oh, we go back the girls. You know they're telling

2783
02:16:44,707 --> 02:16:45,507
Speaker 24: the town to athlete.

2784
02:16:45,507 --> 02:16:47,507
Speaker 27: You've got someone like Resa who's you know, done pinna

2785
02:16:47,507 --> 02:16:50,747
Speaker 27: cool events before the World Cup, but been to Commonwealth

2786
02:16:50,787 --> 02:16:53,187
Speaker 27: and Olympics and you know that kind of experience is great.

2787
02:16:53,227 --> 02:16:55,107
Speaker 27: The other two, you know, they don't think it will

2788
02:16:55,147 --> 02:16:58,227
Speaker 27: FaZe them. The quality of players. The cool thing about

2789
02:16:58,227 --> 02:17:00,147
Speaker 27: these three half packs is they all offer something slightly

2790
02:17:00,227 --> 02:17:02,427
Speaker 27: different with the whether the way they want to play.

2791
02:17:03,027 --> 02:17:05,467
Speaker 27: I don't think anyone's necessarily They haven't cemented the number

2792
02:17:05,507 --> 02:17:07,747
Speaker 27: nine jersy yet. I think it will come down to

2793
02:17:07,827 --> 02:17:10,387
Speaker 27: how the team probably wants to play and what the

2794
02:17:10,467 --> 02:17:11,507
Speaker 27: game plan is for each game.

2795
02:17:11,907 --> 02:17:14,627
Speaker 3: And with the first fives, only two named in the

2796
02:17:14,667 --> 02:17:17,467
Speaker 3: squad hete Dedmont of course and Kelly Brazier, who we

2797
02:17:17,507 --> 02:17:21,307
Speaker 3: know is hugely experienced, but before playing against Australia this year,

2798
02:17:21,427 --> 02:17:24,907
Speaker 3: she hadn't played a test since November twenty twenty one.

2799
02:17:25,587 --> 02:17:27,787
Speaker 3: Are we a little bit light? If something were to

2800
02:17:27,907 --> 02:17:29,827
Speaker 3: happen to Ute Dumont.

2801
02:17:30,787 --> 02:17:32,427
Speaker 24: I think would be I think would be able to be.

2802
02:17:32,507 --> 02:17:34,707
Speaker 27: Okay, We've probably got Renee Holmes, I think should be

2803
02:17:34,747 --> 02:17:37,467
Speaker 27: someone that could probably cover ten as well.

2804
02:17:37,907 --> 02:17:39,387
Speaker 24: So you've got that covered there, and we know that

2805
02:17:39,467 --> 02:17:40,947
Speaker 24: she's a talented.

2806
02:17:40,667 --> 02:17:43,107
Speaker 27: Player too, so I think, you know, you know, you

2807
02:17:43,187 --> 02:17:45,027
Speaker 27: never want to bank any injuries if someone gets into

2808
02:17:45,067 --> 02:17:47,147
Speaker 27: someone potentially get called up to. But we obviously got

2809
02:17:47,187 --> 02:17:49,307
Speaker 27: Kelly who's got the hell of a lot of experience

2810
02:17:49,387 --> 02:17:51,627
Speaker 27: and can distribute and kick well, which the team you

2811
02:17:51,867 --> 02:17:52,587
Speaker 27: may need as well.

2812
02:17:52,987 --> 02:17:55,947
Speaker 3: At the other end of the experience scale, the hugely

2813
02:17:56,107 --> 02:17:58,867
Speaker 3: exciting Georgia Miller, who of course has come across from

2814
02:17:59,027 --> 02:18:02,387
Speaker 3: the seven's program, but that trice he's scored against Australia

2815
02:18:02,467 --> 02:18:05,347
Speaker 3: and Wellington just a glimpse of what she is capable of.

2816
02:18:05,827 --> 02:18:08,907
Speaker 3: What are you predict for Georgia Miller at this World Cup?

2817
02:18:10,387 --> 02:18:13,307
Speaker 27: I predict that she's probably potentially could be, you know,

2818
02:18:13,507 --> 02:18:15,627
Speaker 27: end up being that player of the of the tournament.

2819
02:18:16,307 --> 02:18:18,107
Speaker 24: You know, you call that nice and early. She's a freak.

2820
02:18:18,467 --> 02:18:19,627
Speaker 24: She makes regularly look easy.

2821
02:18:20,267 --> 02:18:22,387
Speaker 27: I think she'll you know, she'll embrace it, and I

2822
02:18:22,467 --> 02:18:24,187
Speaker 27: think she'll have a great, a great World Cup and

2823
02:18:24,227 --> 02:18:26,387
Speaker 27: she'll have another breakout season in their first you know

2824
02:18:26,507 --> 02:18:27,387
Speaker 27: fifteen's World Cup.

2825
02:18:27,787 --> 02:18:30,707
Speaker 3: So to the schedule, Paul playing New Hill, play Spain first,

2826
02:18:30,707 --> 02:18:34,067
Speaker 3: then Japan, then Ireland, which will be their toughest Paul match.

2827
02:18:34,147 --> 02:18:37,147
Speaker 3: Do you think Alan Bunting and his selectors will use

2828
02:18:37,187 --> 02:18:38,947
Speaker 3: the first two games to come up with their strongest

2829
02:18:39,027 --> 02:18:40,747
Speaker 3: side for the third game and then Ireland to the

2830
02:18:40,827 --> 02:18:41,547
Speaker 3: knockout face.

2831
02:18:42,787 --> 02:18:44,707
Speaker 27: I think what they'll do is that that first game,

2832
02:18:45,067 --> 02:18:47,507
Speaker 27: I believe that they'll still give people an opportunity to

2833
02:18:47,867 --> 02:18:49,787
Speaker 27: get some good game time under their bout and then

2834
02:18:49,867 --> 02:18:53,987
Speaker 27: probably leading into Japan and in Ireland obviously by Ireland,

2835
02:18:53,987 --> 02:18:55,547
Speaker 27: you probably want to have your top teams, so you

2836
02:18:55,627 --> 02:18:57,347
Speaker 27: probably want them to be playing some good game time

2837
02:18:57,747 --> 02:19:00,107
Speaker 27: together in that Japan game as well.

2838
02:19:00,187 --> 02:19:01,867
Speaker 24: I don't think they've done that already this year.

2839
02:19:02,747 --> 02:19:05,707
Speaker 27: They've kind of, you know, they've moved around the squad

2840
02:19:05,707 --> 02:19:07,667
Speaker 27: a lot, so they probably need to start cementing a

2841
02:19:07,747 --> 02:19:10,667
Speaker 27: top A top fifteen as early as possible within the

2842
02:19:10,707 --> 02:19:11,147
Speaker 27: World Cup.

2843
02:19:11,507 --> 02:19:15,187
Speaker 3: Apart from England, obviously, the hosts and world number one?

2844
02:19:15,467 --> 02:19:17,627
Speaker 3: Who are the other big threats to New Zealand at

2845
02:19:17,667 --> 02:19:18,307
Speaker 3: this World Cup?

2846
02:19:18,747 --> 02:19:21,067
Speaker 27: I think our biggest threat for thinking about New Zealand's

2847
02:19:21,067 --> 02:19:23,067
Speaker 27: I think currently is Canada. I feel like they're a

2848
02:19:23,107 --> 02:19:25,547
Speaker 27: bit of a bogie team for us, and you know,

2849
02:19:25,627 --> 02:19:27,547
Speaker 27: the last couple of years you're drawing and a loss,

2850
02:19:27,667 --> 02:19:29,187
Speaker 27: So I think, you know, we're going to potentially come

2851
02:19:29,227 --> 02:19:31,227
Speaker 27: up against them in the semi final, and you know,

2852
02:19:31,307 --> 02:19:33,627
Speaker 27: if all goes well and Anythingland, you know, goes well

2853
02:19:33,667 --> 02:19:35,787
Speaker 27: for England France, they'll be in the other one. So

2854
02:19:36,267 --> 02:19:38,427
Speaker 27: I think that's probably going to be the biggest, biggest one.

2855
02:19:38,467 --> 02:19:40,627
Speaker 27: And then if you know, Ireland's another one that's been

2856
02:19:41,307 --> 02:19:43,867
Speaker 27: you know they're coming up silently, you know as well,

2857
02:19:43,907 --> 02:19:45,347
Speaker 27: and you know we've got to play them in Paul

2858
02:19:45,347 --> 02:19:46,787
Speaker 27: play and you know you kind of want to top

2859
02:19:46,827 --> 02:19:49,187
Speaker 27: your top your pool to make you make sure you

2860
02:19:49,267 --> 02:19:50,947
Speaker 27: get that better semi final.

2861
02:19:51,107 --> 02:19:55,267
Speaker 3: And you yourself Kendra three Rugby World Cup wins, but

2862
02:19:55,427 --> 02:19:58,027
Speaker 3: that last one, man, what I not it was? How

2863
02:19:58,107 --> 02:20:00,347
Speaker 3: often do you think back to that last Rugby World

2864
02:20:00,347 --> 02:20:02,507
Speaker 3: Cup final? The win over England eed in part November

2865
02:20:02,507 --> 02:20:04,787
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two turned out to be your last test

2866
02:20:04,867 --> 02:20:07,547
Speaker 3: for New Zealand and one of the most memorable nights

2867
02:20:08,027 --> 02:20:09,027
Speaker 3: in our sporting history.

2868
02:20:10,267 --> 02:20:12,987
Speaker 27: Yeah, it definitely does mean that. Obviously, we've been World

2869
02:20:13,027 --> 02:20:15,547
Speaker 27: Cup year. I mean I've been doing a lot of speaking,

2870
02:20:15,707 --> 02:20:17,627
Speaker 27: you know, speaking things and stuff, and everyone kind of

2871
02:20:17,667 --> 02:20:19,467
Speaker 27: talks about it, and I just love I love talking

2872
02:20:19,507 --> 02:20:21,427
Speaker 27: about it. I love throwing myself back into that World

2873
02:20:21,427 --> 02:20:24,227
Speaker 27: Cup and you know, going through that experience all again

2874
02:20:24,307 --> 02:20:26,347
Speaker 27: and it was something pretty incredible. And I think we've

2875
02:20:26,387 --> 02:20:29,707
Speaker 27: got an opportunity again, you know, to make something for

2876
02:20:29,827 --> 02:20:30,787
Speaker 27: this one and do it again.

2877
02:20:30,987 --> 02:20:33,267
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, So to circle back to finish as

2878
02:20:33,267 --> 02:20:35,347
Speaker 3: we still cup on the coffee and get ready to

2879
02:20:35,467 --> 02:20:38,027
Speaker 3: chair the Black fans on from twelve thousand miles away.

2880
02:20:38,547 --> 02:20:40,267
Speaker 3: You feel like we should do so with a sense

2881
02:20:40,307 --> 02:20:40,907
Speaker 3: of confidence.

2882
02:20:41,427 --> 02:20:42,747
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think the team's got what it takes. I

2883
02:20:42,787 --> 02:20:44,227
Speaker 27: think we've got the players to be able to do it.

2884
02:20:44,267 --> 02:20:47,347
Speaker 27: I think we should definitely be optimistic. You never know

2885
02:20:47,467 --> 02:20:49,067
Speaker 27: that you've got a bit of an upholl about playing

2886
02:20:49,147 --> 02:20:51,787
Speaker 27: a quality team like England. Highly I mean, you know,

2887
02:20:51,827 --> 02:20:53,387
Speaker 27: we're saying that we're already talking about the final, but

2888
02:20:53,427 --> 02:20:54,587
Speaker 27: there's a lot of games that's going to go on

2889
02:20:54,707 --> 02:20:57,107
Speaker 27: before that, you know, but playing a team at home,

2890
02:20:57,187 --> 02:20:58,627
Speaker 27: you know, we had that and we had that crowd

2891
02:20:58,667 --> 02:21:00,747
Speaker 27: and what that gives you in their boost, that gives you.

2892
02:21:01,307 --> 02:21:03,107
Speaker 27: So if it is in England and New Zealand final,

2893
02:21:03,187 --> 02:21:05,387
Speaker 27: you know, I still I still want to be optimistic.

2894
02:21:05,707 --> 02:21:07,187
Speaker 24: You know, we did it last time and I believe

2895
02:21:07,187 --> 02:21:07,987
Speaker 24: that they can do it again.

2896
02:21:08,147 --> 02:21:10,587
Speaker 3: All right, and exciting few weeks ahead, Kendra, thanks so

2897
02:21:10,667 --> 02:21:13,387
Speaker 3: much for joining us on weekend Sport. Can't wait to

2898
02:21:13,387 --> 02:21:15,067
Speaker 3: see how it all plays out at the Rugby World Cup.

2899
02:21:15,067 --> 02:21:17,307
Speaker 3: Thanks for your time, nor thank you. See you lader,

2900
02:21:17,307 --> 02:21:20,187
Speaker 3: see a load of Kendra Kendrack cox Edge there a

2901
02:21:20,267 --> 02:21:22,547
Speaker 3: member of the broadcast team, so you'll hear her voice,

2902
02:21:22,627 --> 02:21:24,667
Speaker 3: no doubt coming back from the other side of the

2903
02:21:24,747 --> 02:21:27,267
Speaker 3: world when the Black Ferns get under way. So tomorrow

2904
02:21:27,347 --> 02:21:29,667
Speaker 3: morning is when they have their first game. They take

2905
02:21:29,747 --> 02:21:35,547
Speaker 3: on Spain in York the Line of Community Stadium in York,

2906
02:21:35,907 --> 02:21:37,827
Speaker 3: four point thirty tomorrow morning. Look, this should be the

2907
02:21:37,947 --> 02:21:40,427
Speaker 3: easiest of the three Paul games, and I think the

2908
02:21:40,507 --> 02:21:43,387
Speaker 3: team that Alan Bunting has named for this one has

2909
02:21:43,387 --> 02:21:46,827
Speaker 3: certainly got the look about it of giving a few

2910
02:21:46,867 --> 02:21:51,147
Speaker 3: players a game certainly nowhere near their top side. You

2911
02:21:51,227 --> 02:21:53,707
Speaker 3: look at the players who are on the bench and

2912
02:21:53,907 --> 02:21:57,307
Speaker 3: you findever Hey Dumont there on the bench, the co captain,

2913
02:21:57,347 --> 02:22:01,107
Speaker 3: Porscha Woodman Whickcliffe, and the reserves as well, Georgia Ponsonby.

2914
02:22:01,187 --> 02:22:03,547
Speaker 3: You know, those are three players who probably are in

2915
02:22:03,587 --> 02:22:07,067
Speaker 3: the strongest fifteen but won't play against Spain. So that's

2916
02:22:07,227 --> 02:22:10,347
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. Then next Monday it's Japan. It's a one

2917
02:22:10,387 --> 02:22:12,507
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning game, and then Ireland on the

2918
02:22:12,587 --> 02:22:14,827
Speaker 3: morning of Monday, September the eighth, that one forty five.

2919
02:22:14,947 --> 02:22:18,027
Speaker 3: So New Zealand should really in theory get through those games, okay,

2920
02:22:18,267 --> 02:22:21,347
Speaker 3: and then they're into quarters, semis and final. That's the

2921
02:22:21,427 --> 02:22:23,507
Speaker 3: business end of this Rugby World Cup. Already, as I

2922
02:22:23,547 --> 02:22:27,427
Speaker 3: mentioned before, some big score lines in this Rugby World Cup,

2923
02:22:27,467 --> 02:22:30,187
Speaker 3: as the as the haves and have knots of women's

2924
02:22:30,267 --> 02:22:34,467
Speaker 3: rugby sort of sort themselves out. England already looking ominous

2925
02:22:34,587 --> 02:22:37,507
Speaker 3: and look, I know you can't predict anything when it

2926
02:22:37,587 --> 02:22:40,627
Speaker 3: comes to World Cups, but it feels as though if

2927
02:22:40,707 --> 02:22:43,067
Speaker 3: New Zealand are to retain that title, then they've got

2928
02:22:43,107 --> 02:22:46,547
Speaker 3: to get past the very very big obstacle that is England.

2929
02:22:47,267 --> 02:22:50,547
Speaker 3: The final at Twickenham already sold out. Eighty two thousand

2930
02:22:50,627 --> 02:22:54,667
Speaker 3: tickets already sold for the final could well be England

2931
02:22:54,707 --> 02:22:56,987
Speaker 3: against New Zealand and a rematch of the last one

2932
02:22:57,387 --> 02:22:59,067
Speaker 3: two twenty two. I want to take it down to

2933
02:23:00,067 --> 02:23:04,507
Speaker 3: Dunedin where Otago are taking on Counties. Manico early kickoff

2934
02:23:04,547 --> 02:23:07,067
Speaker 3: one thirty five. I'm not quite sure why that was County.

2935
02:23:07,067 --> 02:23:09,147
Speaker 3: He's got to get a flight back out anyway. Otago

2936
02:23:09,187 --> 02:23:10,627
Speaker 3: scored the first try on gold Sport.

2937
02:23:11,227 --> 02:23:15,267
Speaker 42: Otago hot on the attack, opened right inside his Gilbert Gilbert.

2938
02:23:14,947 --> 02:23:17,147
Speaker 6: Gilbert almost they're reaching out try.

2939
02:23:17,427 --> 02:23:20,947
Speaker 42: Right outside of the field. Sam Gilbert had three defenders

2940
02:23:21,027 --> 02:23:23,787
Speaker 42: round him, muscled his way up to the line, reached out,

2941
02:23:23,867 --> 02:23:27,467
Speaker 42: placed the ball and Otago go up five mil seven.

2942
02:23:27,227 --> 02:23:29,707
Speaker 3: And a half gone, but Counties bound straight back.

2943
02:23:29,827 --> 02:23:32,747
Speaker 42: The restart from Counties down inside the Otago twenty two

2944
02:23:33,267 --> 02:23:37,267
Speaker 42: four by Naick Charts by Simon Peter Thorley a fire

2945
02:23:37,587 --> 02:23:39,507
Speaker 42: and Counties hit straight back.

2946
02:23:39,547 --> 02:23:42,507
Speaker 3: And so it was seven five to Counties. But then

2947
02:23:42,787 --> 02:23:44,507
Speaker 3: Otago got themselves back into gear.

2948
02:23:44,747 --> 02:23:48,387
Speaker 42: Opened right inside Leo Willie out the back Miller Nanicki

2949
02:23:48,667 --> 02:23:52,387
Speaker 42: Nanika going close. Brilliant tackle there from Money Money three

2950
02:23:52,467 --> 02:23:54,507
Speaker 42: out from the line little bit missies, but stapped up

2951
02:23:54,547 --> 02:23:57,747
Speaker 42: by Brumfield. Otago still have it two out oh short

2952
02:23:57,907 --> 02:24:00,787
Speaker 42: right inside and Nandick is going to go in. Otago

2953
02:24:00,907 --> 02:24:03,827
Speaker 42: hit back ten seven Keckta Cabina strikes it and has

2954
02:24:03,867 --> 02:24:07,507
Speaker 42: slotted the conversion and Otago back in twelve seven. So

2955
02:24:07,667 --> 02:24:10,147
Speaker 42: twelve seven and then this well going to the front

2956
02:24:10,227 --> 02:24:12,067
Speaker 42: of the line out bring the ball down and they

2957
02:24:12,187 --> 02:24:15,467
Speaker 42: go short side right with Powell again five out from

2958
02:24:15,587 --> 02:24:18,987
Speaker 42: the county's line. Nice little move there, Pleasure open left

2959
02:24:18,987 --> 02:24:22,227
Speaker 42: hand side is bully three out ma ou the other

2960
02:24:22,307 --> 02:24:24,107
Speaker 42: prop four out just in front of the post now

2961
02:24:24,147 --> 02:24:26,947
Speaker 42: opens I left over the line. Who's that?

2962
02:24:27,107 --> 02:24:27,827
Speaker 7: Have they got it down?

2963
02:24:27,907 --> 02:24:31,187
Speaker 42: They have Otago In fact it is Will Tucker with

2964
02:24:31,307 --> 02:24:34,547
Speaker 42: the try and Otago go up seventeen to seven, twenty

2965
02:24:34,627 --> 02:24:35,947
Speaker 42: six gone on God support.

2966
02:24:35,667 --> 02:24:38,667
Speaker 3: Nighthart radio and the kick went over for nineteen seven.

2967
02:24:38,707 --> 02:24:42,227
Speaker 3: But then just before halftime Moskinstitutu. They're playing half back.

2968
02:24:42,267 --> 02:24:45,747
Speaker 42: He gives it to Furness. Furness just short, so Tutu's there,

2969
02:24:45,987 --> 02:24:48,347
Speaker 42: looks for the pass, pick and go wrapped up by

2970
02:24:48,427 --> 02:24:51,067
Speaker 42: Otago one meter short. Ben Statu pickn go to the

2971
02:24:51,187 --> 02:24:53,467
Speaker 42: left fen state and gets there and County score a

2972
02:24:53,547 --> 02:24:57,027
Speaker 42: try on the stroke of half time, low kick and

2973
02:24:57,267 --> 02:24:59,867
Speaker 42: to the left of the upright so I'm converted. Nineteen

2974
02:24:59,987 --> 02:25:03,627
Speaker 42: twelve the half time score between Otago and Counties MANACAO

2975
02:25:03,747 --> 02:25:05,707
Speaker 42: at four Side Bars Stadium.

2976
02:25:06,827 --> 02:25:09,027
Speaker 3: That's it yes at Forsyth Bar Stadium. Nathan Limb with

2977
02:25:09,107 --> 02:25:11,267
Speaker 3: the call on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. You can flick

2978
02:25:11,267 --> 02:25:13,627
Speaker 3: across there and catch the second half if you'd like.

2979
02:25:13,747 --> 02:25:17,627
Speaker 3: But nineteen twelve Otago leed Counties in this round four

2980
02:25:17,707 --> 02:25:20,587
Speaker 3: Bunnings MPC match one more game this afternoon MLOW two

2981
02:25:20,627 --> 02:25:25,267
Speaker 3: hosting Wellington at Central Energy Trust Arena in Palmerston North.

2982
02:25:25,347 --> 02:25:28,827
Speaker 3: Two twenty five. Big domestic rugby story of the weekend,

2983
02:25:28,867 --> 02:25:31,547
Speaker 3: of course, was the ran Furley shield changing hands yesterday

2984
02:25:31,547 --> 02:25:34,307
Speaker 3: white Cuttle going to New Plymouth and taking it off

2985
02:25:34,387 --> 02:25:38,267
Speaker 3: Taranaki Lemasopowanga the hero. He's on Weekend Sport after this

2986
02:25:38,427 --> 02:25:39,107
Speaker 3: two twenty five.

2987
02:25:39,827 --> 02:25:43,387
Speaker 1: The biggest things in sport are on Weekend Sport with

2988
02:25:43,587 --> 02:25:47,667
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

2989
02:25:47,707 --> 02:25:49,147
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs MB.

2990
02:25:49,827 --> 02:25:52,227
Speaker 3: Two twenty eight. The log of wood is back in

2991
02:25:52,307 --> 02:25:55,147
Speaker 3: white Cuttle's hands for the first time since twenty eighteen.

2992
02:25:55,667 --> 02:25:58,547
Speaker 6: Beg It Comes, It Comes, favoring he gets it at

2993
02:25:58,587 --> 02:26:00,747
Speaker 6: a Judge movie, says.

2994
02:26:00,507 --> 02:26:06,267
Speaker 33: It's all over White hellow have won the rains really chilled.

2995
02:26:06,707 --> 02:26:10,947
Speaker 6: Twenty three, twenty two and a heart.

2996
02:26:10,867 --> 02:26:13,867
Speaker 3: Stopper, heart stopper. All right, White Kato fans happy to

2997
02:26:13,907 --> 02:26:16,187
Speaker 3: hear from you. Actually, oh eight one hundred and eighty

2998
02:26:16,267 --> 02:26:18,587
Speaker 3: ten eighty luxuriating this. What's it like to have the

2999
02:26:18,707 --> 02:26:22,787
Speaker 3: log back in your possession? After the game yesterday, I

3000
02:26:22,867 --> 02:26:25,227
Speaker 3: had the chance to sketch up with Limasopowanga asking them

3001
02:26:25,267 --> 02:26:26,107
Speaker 3: how good that was.

3002
02:26:27,347 --> 02:26:30,787
Speaker 45: Yeah, it's amazing to be honest, you know, come up

3003
02:26:30,827 --> 02:26:33,947
Speaker 45: here and play for where my wife's from and represent

3004
02:26:34,827 --> 02:26:37,187
Speaker 45: where she's from and her family, and you know, this

3005
02:26:37,347 --> 02:26:39,547
Speaker 45: is where our kids are going to live, and just

3006
02:26:40,267 --> 02:26:42,867
Speaker 45: just to get amongst the region, and you know, I

3007
02:26:43,067 --> 02:26:44,587
Speaker 45: know there's a lot of proud people in the White

3008
02:26:44,627 --> 02:26:48,227
Speaker 45: Couple region and especially suburbs, and you know, hopefully we're

3009
02:26:48,587 --> 02:26:50,827
Speaker 45: able to put of a few smiles on people's faces

3010
02:26:50,867 --> 02:26:54,227
Speaker 45: tonight and this afternoon, and we get to take that

3011
02:26:54,307 --> 02:26:58,227
Speaker 45: short home back to the White Couple And yes, it's amazing,

3012
02:26:58,587 --> 02:27:01,187
Speaker 45: It really is cool, and I'm just so happy, just

3013
02:27:01,507 --> 02:27:03,787
Speaker 45: not only for myself at the group, and there's a

3014
02:27:03,827 --> 02:27:05,747
Speaker 45: lot of good people here work in the union and

3015
02:27:06,467 --> 02:27:08,627
Speaker 45: work hard, and just it's so good to be able

3016
02:27:08,667 --> 02:27:12,867
Speaker 45: to give back to everybody who's putting work behind the scenes.

3017
02:27:13,187 --> 02:27:16,307
Speaker 3: What are you and Aaron Cruden looking to bring to

3018
02:27:16,427 --> 02:27:19,547
Speaker 3: this white couple side as real veterans of rugby.

3019
02:27:20,227 --> 02:27:23,987
Speaker 45: Yeah, I guess for us, but there's always pressure, but

3020
02:27:24,107 --> 02:27:26,627
Speaker 45: it probably doesn't fluster us as much anymore. You know,

3021
02:27:26,787 --> 02:27:31,547
Speaker 45: we're both fathers now, we have other commitments and rugby

3022
02:27:31,667 --> 02:27:33,347
Speaker 45: is just a small part of our lives.

3023
02:27:34,027 --> 02:27:35,707
Speaker 8: It's what we do and it's not who we are.

3024
02:27:36,267 --> 02:27:39,107
Speaker 45: And I guess for us trying to get these young

3025
02:27:39,187 --> 02:27:42,147
Speaker 45: boys who look at rugby as a as a bell

3026
02:27:42,227 --> 02:27:44,027
Speaker 45: and end or and sometimes that pressure can get to them,

3027
02:27:44,507 --> 02:27:46,467
Speaker 45: and just to realize it really is just a game

3028
02:27:46,507 --> 02:27:48,587
Speaker 45: at the end of the day, and to really enjoy it,

3029
02:27:48,627 --> 02:27:51,267
Speaker 45: because these moments come a few and far between, you know,

3030
02:27:51,427 --> 02:27:54,227
Speaker 45: Like I've been able to play rugby for sixteen years

3031
02:27:54,267 --> 02:27:57,027
Speaker 45: as a toe and this is my second challenge at it,

3032
02:27:57,467 --> 02:28:02,147
Speaker 45: and so to get it this time around on the

3033
02:28:02,227 --> 02:28:04,107
Speaker 45: second on the second go is pretty amazing.

3034
02:28:04,227 --> 02:28:07,147
Speaker 30: And you know, I'm really good. My favorite this moment,

3035
02:28:07,147 --> 02:28:08,227
Speaker 30: and I enjoy it my bit.

3036
02:28:08,347 --> 02:28:10,267
Speaker 3: So the young guys and the team, I mean, they're

3037
02:28:10,907 --> 02:28:13,387
Speaker 3: you know, they're just full noise, aren't they. Where do

3038
02:28:13,467 --> 02:28:14,947
Speaker 3: these young guys get their energy from?

3039
02:28:15,387 --> 02:28:18,267
Speaker 45: Oh my, I wish I had the energy. I've only

3040
02:28:18,347 --> 02:28:21,107
Speaker 45: got a certain amount of dancing to think. Most games

3041
02:28:21,347 --> 02:28:23,907
Speaker 45: that are you know, like I know how to get

3042
02:28:23,947 --> 02:28:27,587
Speaker 45: to the spot quickly and can read the play and

3043
02:28:27,867 --> 02:28:28,547
Speaker 45: understand where the.

3044
02:28:28,547 --> 02:28:29,147
Speaker 23: Ball is going to go.

3045
02:28:29,347 --> 02:28:32,187
Speaker 45: So I think that just comes with experience. But yeah,

3046
02:28:32,267 --> 02:28:34,387
Speaker 45: they really do give us a bit of life, and

3047
02:28:35,107 --> 02:28:39,987
Speaker 45: they they challenge us to keep being better as older

3048
02:28:40,027 --> 02:28:43,627
Speaker 45: players and to not slack off and rest on my laurels.

3049
02:28:43,707 --> 02:28:47,067
Speaker 45: And they really challenge us. So to me, like every

3050
02:28:47,147 --> 02:28:49,907
Speaker 45: day I'm coming and knowing that I've got to get furtter,

3051
02:28:50,027 --> 02:28:52,307
Speaker 45: get fast, to get stronger, and just to keep up

3052
02:28:52,387 --> 02:28:54,027
Speaker 45: and sayhead the other game.

3053
02:28:54,187 --> 02:28:56,227
Speaker 3: So you've been around for a long time, Lima, So

3054
02:28:56,347 --> 02:28:58,867
Speaker 3: this is the first time you ever had the Ring

3055
02:28:58,907 --> 02:28:59,507
Speaker 3: Philly Shield.

3056
02:29:00,067 --> 02:29:01,907
Speaker 45: Yeah, you know, you've got to get lucky to even

3057
02:29:01,947 --> 02:29:04,147
Speaker 45: get a challenge, you know, Like I know some players

3058
02:29:05,387 --> 02:29:07,507
Speaker 45: who as ever got a challenge, you know, like the

3059
02:29:07,587 --> 02:29:09,867
Speaker 45: great Tony Brown, who's one of my favorite coaches. He

3060
02:29:09,987 --> 02:29:12,227
Speaker 45: never had a challenge as a player, you know, like

3061
02:29:12,867 --> 02:29:16,227
Speaker 45: that's those kind of you've got to get pretty lucky

3062
02:29:16,307 --> 02:29:18,267
Speaker 45: to even you know, get a cracketter and if you

3063
02:29:18,307 --> 02:29:20,307
Speaker 45: get a crack at it, so the kitchen think it

3064
02:29:20,547 --> 02:29:23,507
Speaker 45: and hopefully you can come worth the chocolates. And today

3065
02:29:23,547 --> 02:29:23,787
Speaker 45: we did.

3066
02:29:24,027 --> 02:29:26,667
Speaker 3: And you were behind for much of the second half,

3067
02:29:28,787 --> 02:29:30,467
Speaker 3: behind for much of the second half. Did you always

3068
02:29:30,507 --> 02:29:32,507
Speaker 3: feel as though you were still in the game.

3069
02:29:32,947 --> 02:29:33,787
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think the way.

3070
02:29:33,627 --> 02:29:35,747
Speaker 8: We've been playing, we've just been hanging in games, hanging

3071
02:29:35,787 --> 02:29:38,307
Speaker 8: in games and knowing that we've got the we've got

3072
02:29:38,387 --> 02:29:39,947
Speaker 8: the athletes to do it, we've got the.

3073
02:29:39,947 --> 02:29:40,667
Speaker 45: Game plan to do it.

3074
02:29:41,307 --> 02:29:44,347
Speaker 10: We just have to trust in each other and back

3075
02:29:44,387 --> 02:29:44,947
Speaker 10: each other, and.

3076
02:29:45,107 --> 02:29:46,467
Speaker 13: When when the moments.

3077
02:29:46,147 --> 02:29:50,307
Speaker 45: Come to strike or to score, we've got to nail them.

3078
02:29:50,387 --> 02:29:53,587
Speaker 45: And I think today we stayed and stayed in the fight,

3079
02:29:53,707 --> 02:29:58,347
Speaker 45: and you know, it took an eighty minute penalty to

3080
02:29:59,027 --> 02:30:02,747
Speaker 45: get over the line by one. And yeah, this team's

3081
02:30:02,787 --> 02:30:05,587
Speaker 45: pretty special. There's some guested athletes here and makes them

3082
02:30:05,627 --> 02:30:09,547
Speaker 45: a bit of experience with me and Tucker and shrugs,

3083
02:30:09,627 --> 02:30:12,747
Speaker 45: and you know, hopefully there's some magic to happen coming

3084
02:30:12,867 --> 02:30:14,347
Speaker 45: back back into the season.

3085
02:30:14,507 --> 02:30:17,027
Speaker 3: That is Lemisopolanga, who I caught up with after the

3086
02:30:17,107 --> 02:30:19,667
Speaker 3: game yesterday. So a shield winner for the first time,

3087
02:30:19,707 --> 02:30:21,747
Speaker 3: a shield holder for the first time, as social media

3088
02:30:21,867 --> 02:30:25,107
Speaker 3: was terrific last night. Lemisopowanga, I just thought after the

3089
02:30:25,187 --> 02:30:28,467
Speaker 3: game as well. You know, he's done a lot of things, Lemisopoulanga.

3090
02:30:28,507 --> 02:30:30,947
Speaker 3: So is Aaron Cruden. You know they've played plenty of

3091
02:30:31,067 --> 02:30:34,587
Speaker 3: rugby at the highest level, but they were both just

3092
02:30:34,667 --> 02:30:38,987
Speaker 3: totally ecstatic at full time. That Loggerwood still means plenty,

3093
02:30:39,867 --> 02:30:44,147
Speaker 3: still more than probably any other trophy in New Zealand sport.

3094
02:30:44,227 --> 02:30:48,467
Speaker 3: It just keeps on keeping on as a as a

3095
02:30:48,547 --> 02:30:52,907
Speaker 3: symbol of domestic rugby supremacy. And even listening to Lemasa

3096
02:30:52,987 --> 02:30:56,507
Speaker 3: there you know in that whole career of us, he's

3097
02:30:56,587 --> 02:31:00,507
Speaker 3: never never had it. He's got it now. Although Southland

3098
02:31:00,547 --> 02:31:02,907
Speaker 3: are coming for it. I'm told by a number of people.

3099
02:31:03,107 --> 02:31:06,107
Speaker 3: Southland are coming for it next weekend. They get the

3100
02:31:06,547 --> 02:31:11,227
Speaker 3: the first crack at it. That's next Sunday Southland against

3101
02:31:11,267 --> 02:31:14,587
Speaker 3: White Couple at at FMG in Hamilton. So what's that

3102
02:31:14,667 --> 02:31:16,947
Speaker 3: a week today? If they hold on. So we've got

3103
02:31:16,987 --> 02:31:21,027
Speaker 3: another message here, Piney Mark my word, says Simon Harbor

3104
02:31:21,067 --> 02:31:22,707
Speaker 3: will take the shield off the Molers in a couple

3105
02:31:22,747 --> 02:31:27,027
Speaker 3: of weeks. They're gonna have to improve, Simon. If they are,

3106
02:31:27,507 --> 02:31:30,907
Speaker 3: they're going to have to improve. Twenty seven to three Scotty,

3107
02:31:30,987 --> 02:31:32,867
Speaker 3: Hi mate, Okay.

3108
02:31:32,947 --> 02:31:36,267
Speaker 11: Just just a quick correction, Poney on the New Zealand's

3109
02:31:36,267 --> 02:31:40,667
Speaker 11: biggest domestic rugby competition, which you haven't touched on so far, is,

3110
02:31:40,747 --> 02:31:44,027
Speaker 11: of course the New Zealand's secondary schools. Where's the stream competition?

3111
02:31:44,147 --> 02:31:46,067
Speaker 11: And the fourth finalists have been found for this week.

3112
02:31:46,827 --> 02:31:48,867
Speaker 3: Go on, tell us who they are? I know, Fieldings

3113
02:31:48,907 --> 02:31:50,827
Speaker 3: in there, Fielding's in there.

3114
02:31:50,867 --> 02:31:54,587
Speaker 11: They're coming up against the reigning Auckland champions, the Greater

3115
02:31:54,667 --> 02:31:57,547
Speaker 11: Auckland Champions, in fact, west Lake Boys High School, that

3116
02:31:57,667 --> 02:32:01,107
Speaker 11: powerhouse rugby who's been to the finals I think twice

3117
02:32:01,147 --> 02:32:07,467
Speaker 11: in the last three years late late yep, after Westlake

3118
02:32:07,747 --> 02:32:11,707
Speaker 11: knocked out the money boys from Kings whose rugby budget

3119
02:32:11,747 --> 02:32:15,107
Speaker 11: for the first Athene is roughly the same as any

3120
02:32:15,147 --> 02:32:17,307
Speaker 11: of mu Zion's NPC teams.

3121
02:32:19,747 --> 02:32:22,867
Speaker 3: Westlake Over Kings Lover. Yeah, west Lake Over Kings Love.

3122
02:32:23,227 --> 02:32:26,787
Speaker 11: Teams Putty nine to twenty four and literally with a

3123
02:32:26,907 --> 02:32:30,107
Speaker 11: tri staving tackle in the last, very last player of

3124
02:32:30,147 --> 02:32:34,907
Speaker 11: the game by Westlakes captain l O Leith, and I

3125
02:32:35,027 --> 02:32:36,747
Speaker 11: think it's going to be nominated in the Herald this

3126
02:32:36,867 --> 02:32:39,907
Speaker 11: week as the Try of the Year and the competition

3127
02:32:40,347 --> 02:32:43,987
Speaker 11: by your man Bruce Holloway, New Zealand's foremost schoolboy rugby writer.

3128
02:32:45,067 --> 02:32:47,947
Speaker 11: And then in the other fight of the Ledger. For

3129
02:32:48,187 --> 02:32:53,627
Speaker 11: this weekend's games, you've got Rhoda versus Southland after rad

3130
02:32:54,027 --> 02:32:57,787
Speaker 11: defects of Wesley Colloge home of the world's most famous

3131
02:32:57,827 --> 02:33:00,467
Speaker 11: rugby player back in his day. They've got Roda of

3132
02:33:00,547 --> 02:33:03,827
Speaker 11: v Southland, West Lake v fielding Man.

3133
02:33:03,947 --> 02:33:06,627
Speaker 3: Two good matchups. There's some there's some good players running

3134
02:33:06,627 --> 02:33:08,267
Speaker 3: around Scotty, aren't there. I've had a bit of a

3135
02:33:08,307 --> 02:33:10,787
Speaker 3: look at some of these games. But yeah, famous schools

3136
02:33:10,947 --> 02:33:13,027
Speaker 3: Southland seem to keep on punching, don't they. You know

3137
02:33:13,347 --> 02:33:15,547
Speaker 3: you hear about the schools with them, you know who've

3138
02:33:15,547 --> 02:33:17,547
Speaker 3: got the tradition and maybe a little bit of cash.

3139
02:33:17,907 --> 02:33:19,947
Speaker 3: Southland seemed to continue keeping on, don't they.

3140
02:33:21,027 --> 02:33:25,707
Speaker 11: I fot you, and they've got an outstanding fullback. The

3141
02:33:26,507 --> 02:33:29,907
Speaker 11: drop kicked his way to the national title two years

3142
02:33:29,907 --> 02:33:32,107
Speaker 11: ago as a fifteen year old. He's now back in

3143
02:33:32,187 --> 02:33:33,867
Speaker 11: his final year at school. I can't remember his name

3144
02:33:33,867 --> 02:33:36,147
Speaker 11: off the top of my head, but of course Southland

3145
02:33:36,187 --> 02:33:39,627
Speaker 11: knocked out King's College down in bottom half of the

3146
02:33:39,667 --> 02:33:41,547
Speaker 11: South Island. Then he did it again with a forty

3147
02:33:41,587 --> 02:33:42,307
Speaker 11: minut drop goal.

3148
02:33:43,507 --> 02:33:45,947
Speaker 3: Great to get the update, Scotty. Thanks mate, west Lake

3149
02:33:45,987 --> 02:33:50,067
Speaker 3: Boys High fielding rot the Little Boys High, Southland Boys

3150
02:33:50,147 --> 02:33:52,987
Speaker 3: High the top four in the national First fifteen competition.

3151
02:33:53,067 --> 02:33:54,747
Speaker 3: Those games and next weekend. By the sounds of things,

3152
02:33:54,787 --> 02:33:56,467
Speaker 3: we'll keep eyes on it. Thanks for bringing it to

3153
02:33:56,507 --> 02:33:59,547
Speaker 3: our attention, Scotty, really appreciate it. Back on in the

3154
02:33:59,587 --> 02:34:03,387
Speaker 3: second half in Dunedin, Otago, Leed Counties, mattic Our nineteen twelve,

3155
02:34:03,467 --> 02:34:06,587
Speaker 3: with three minutes gone in the second half. When we

3156
02:34:06,667 --> 02:34:09,907
Speaker 3: come back US sport, the NFL season is nearly upon

3157
02:34:10,067 --> 02:34:14,347
Speaker 3: US storylines and NBA Basketball and Major League Baseball as well.

3158
02:34:14,427 --> 02:34:17,547
Speaker 3: Leon Busby, our American sport expert, got to update this

3159
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Speaker 3: state side.

3160
02:34:18,347 --> 02:34:22,827
Speaker 2: After this, don't get caught off side. Eighty eight Weekend

3161
02:34:22,907 --> 02:34:25,147
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3162
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3164
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3165
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Speaker 3: state side where there's always plenty happening sports wisely on

3166
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Speaker 3: Busby as our American sports expert.

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02:34:39,947 --> 02:34:43,987
Speaker 8: Hello, mate, Anthony Jason, thanks for having me back. Got

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02:34:44,107 --> 02:34:45,907
Speaker 8: heach tell us, So let's go straight into it.

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02:34:46,427 --> 02:34:48,267
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that, mate. I know you're you're keen

3170
02:34:48,347 --> 02:34:50,507
Speaker 3: to talk infl but we can we can hold off

3171
02:34:50,587 --> 02:34:51,947
Speaker 3: on that because I want to get a couple of

3172
02:34:52,147 --> 02:34:54,947
Speaker 3: bits of information around basketball and baseball. Can we start

3173
02:34:55,027 --> 02:34:57,107
Speaker 3: in the NBA a couple of major headlines coming out,

3174
02:34:57,427 --> 02:34:59,427
Speaker 3: some mega contracts to tell us about.

3175
02:35:00,627 --> 02:35:03,027
Speaker 8: Yes, even though the NBA is in a sof season,

3176
02:35:03,347 --> 02:35:06,787
Speaker 8: still to discuss the just for clarity, Poney of inverted

3177
02:35:06,827 --> 02:35:09,227
Speaker 8: everything into New Zealand dollars. I love support of their

3178
02:35:09,267 --> 02:35:13,947
Speaker 8: reigning MVP and NBA championsheid Gilgess Alexander from Oklahoma City

3179
02:35:14,027 --> 02:35:17,587
Speaker 8: Thunder recently signed a massive contract Essention for one hundred

3180
02:35:17,587 --> 02:35:20,627
Speaker 8: and twenty three million dollars a year. Not to be outdone,

3181
02:35:20,707 --> 02:35:24,467
Speaker 8: the Phoenix Suns. Only ten days later, resigned all star

3182
02:35:24,667 --> 02:35:28,187
Speaker 8: Devin Booker affectionately known in hard court circles as book

3183
02:35:28,267 --> 02:35:31,427
Speaker 8: or d book to a new two year MAX extension

3184
02:35:31,507 --> 02:35:33,987
Speaker 8: with the princely sum of one hundred and twenty five

3185
02:35:34,027 --> 02:35:37,107
Speaker 8: million dollars annually. So we've got dear friends and Phoenix

3186
02:35:37,147 --> 02:35:39,747
Speaker 8: air quick shout out to the Updike family who often

3187
02:35:39,787 --> 02:35:42,587
Speaker 8: attend home games and they love Devin Booker as the

3188
02:35:42,667 --> 02:35:45,427
Speaker 8: face of the team. He's certainly beloved by the Sun's faithfuls.

3189
02:35:45,467 --> 02:35:47,867
Speaker 8: They they'll be excited that he's locked in for the

3190
02:35:47,907 --> 02:35:49,867
Speaker 8: next couple of years at least. I think it's a

3191
02:35:49,907 --> 02:35:52,507
Speaker 8: fair assumption, Piney, that the rest is hon to see

3192
02:35:52,507 --> 02:35:55,147
Speaker 8: who will be the first player in NBA history to

3193
02:35:55,187 --> 02:35:58,187
Speaker 8: earn eighty two million dollars a staggering one million dollars

3194
02:35:58,227 --> 02:36:01,307
Speaker 8: per regular season game, So that equates to one hundred

3195
02:36:01,307 --> 02:36:04,587
Speaker 8: and forty two million dollars New Zealand yearly. Almost impossible

3196
02:36:04,587 --> 02:36:07,507
Speaker 8: to get our heads around, right. It's not a matter

3197
02:36:07,627 --> 02:36:09,307
Speaker 8: of if, I think, but when that will happen. So

3198
02:36:09,427 --> 02:36:12,267
Speaker 8: much like the NFL, it's almost as if the NBA

3199
02:36:12,387 --> 02:36:14,667
Speaker 8: is printing their own money. Just recently, on your show,

3200
02:36:15,507 --> 02:36:18,827
Speaker 8: Colin Smith mentioned the changes and how televised sports viewing

3201
02:36:18,867 --> 02:36:22,107
Speaker 8: habits have changed and evolved over the last decade and

3202
02:36:22,187 --> 02:36:25,307
Speaker 8: how we consume it. He also mentioned that the NFL

3203
02:36:25,347 --> 02:36:28,667
Speaker 8: and NBA the Outlieres. When we look at viewership the NFL,

3204
02:36:28,827 --> 02:36:32,027
Speaker 8: especially who had ninety of our one hundred most watched

3205
02:36:32,067 --> 02:36:35,627
Speaker 8: TV programs in the US last year, it's crazy and.

3206
02:36:35,747 --> 02:36:38,107
Speaker 3: Day the Lakers. What's going on with the Lakers with

3207
02:36:38,547 --> 02:36:41,627
Speaker 3: Luka Doncic Lebron James. What sort of shape are they

3208
02:36:41,707 --> 02:36:42,467
Speaker 3: in moving forward?

3209
02:36:43,467 --> 02:36:43,987
Speaker 17: Yes, So the.

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02:36:44,027 --> 02:36:47,627
Speaker 8: Recent contract extension by the La Lakers for Slovenian superstar

3211
02:36:47,707 --> 02:36:52,427
Speaker 8: Luca Doncish was notable because Lebron James was absent at

3212
02:36:52,467 --> 02:36:55,147
Speaker 8: the press conference. Now, in the past, he's been in

3213
02:36:55,227 --> 02:36:59,627
Speaker 8: attendance when starkey players have signed a new deal, and

3214
02:36:59,747 --> 02:37:03,307
Speaker 8: this speculation that Lebron's no show was intentional by the

3215
02:37:03,387 --> 02:37:05,467
Speaker 8: front office to show that they've taken back control of

3216
02:37:05,547 --> 02:37:09,027
Speaker 8: the team. Just a side note, Piney, Lebron was actually

3217
02:37:09,107 --> 02:37:11,467
Speaker 8: playing golf that day, so read into it what sort

3218
02:37:11,507 --> 02:37:14,707
Speaker 8: of message they were seeing to the new owners. That aside,

3219
02:37:15,027 --> 02:37:17,267
Speaker 8: Luca is now seen as the face of the franchise

3220
02:37:17,347 --> 02:37:19,467
Speaker 8: and the team will be built around him a pursuit

3221
02:37:19,547 --> 02:37:20,227
Speaker 8: of another title.

3222
02:37:20,307 --> 02:37:24,627
Speaker 3: Moving forward, Let's go to baseball, our Major League Baseball.

3223
02:37:24,667 --> 02:37:27,387
Speaker 3: The regular season is winding down ahead of the World Series.

3224
02:37:27,427 --> 02:37:29,947
Speaker 3: So are some of the teams and players leon who

3225
02:37:29,947 --> 02:37:32,267
Speaker 3: are showing out for the playoffs and for the season awards.

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02:37:33,387 --> 02:37:35,227
Speaker 8: Yes, so most of your listens will be aware that

3227
02:37:35,667 --> 02:37:37,667
Speaker 8: it's a grueling in one hundred and sixty two game

3228
02:37:37,747 --> 02:37:40,267
Speaker 8: regular season, and there are a number of teams that

3229
02:37:40,387 --> 02:37:43,507
Speaker 8: are genuine contenders heading into October. Let's start. In the

3230
02:37:43,587 --> 02:37:47,187
Speaker 8: American League, the Detroit Tigers leave the conference just ahead

3231
02:37:47,187 --> 02:37:50,787
Speaker 8: of the Toronto Blue Jays, New York Yankees, Houston Astros,

3232
02:37:50,827 --> 02:37:53,267
Speaker 8: and the Boston Red Sox. They round up the top five.

3233
02:37:53,947 --> 02:37:56,227
Speaker 8: In the National League, the top five teams see the

3234
02:37:56,307 --> 02:38:00,827
Speaker 8: Milwaukee Brewers leading the conference, closely followed by the Philadelphia Phillies,

3235
02:38:01,267 --> 02:38:05,307
Speaker 8: Chicago Cubs, LA Dodgers, and the San Diego Padres. Also

3236
02:38:05,467 --> 02:38:08,587
Speaker 8: the National League, the Colorado Rockies are on pace to

3237
02:38:08,747 --> 02:38:11,947
Speaker 8: record a losing season of one hundred plus games. Since

3238
02:38:12,027 --> 02:38:15,467
Speaker 8: nineteen fifty one, ninety one different teams have achieved this

3239
02:38:15,667 --> 02:38:18,507
Speaker 8: ignominious feed. The current record is shared by the nineteen

3240
02:38:18,547 --> 02:38:21,147
Speaker 8: sixty two New York Mets and the two thousand and

3241
02:38:21,227 --> 02:38:23,947
Speaker 8: three Detroit Tigers. Not the sort of record to be

3242
02:38:24,027 --> 02:38:29,347
Speaker 8: proud of, unfortunately, Pining, I know, it's not the sort

3243
02:38:29,387 --> 02:38:31,027
Speaker 8: of record you want to be proud of it and

3244
02:38:31,947 --> 02:38:34,787
Speaker 8: on your record. Also, if we look at individual players

3245
02:38:34,867 --> 02:38:37,907
Speaker 8: making their mark, leaning into the playoffs and pitching in

3246
02:38:38,027 --> 02:38:40,067
Speaker 8: favor to win the prestigious what they call the Cy

3247
02:38:40,227 --> 02:38:43,267
Speaker 8: Young Award, where a minimum ten starts. This season, we

3248
02:38:43,427 --> 02:38:46,707
Speaker 8: have all star all schemes of the Pittsburgh Pirates. At

3249
02:38:46,747 --> 02:38:50,187
Speaker 8: an impressive six foot six, one hundred and eighteen Kielegrams,

3250
02:38:50,667 --> 02:38:54,027
Speaker 8: the twenty twenty three MLB draft number one overall pick,

3251
02:38:54,587 --> 02:38:57,867
Speaker 8: has made sixteen starts this year, giving up only nine

3252
02:38:57,947 --> 02:39:00,907
Speaker 8: home runs, struck out one hundred and seventy four batters,

3253
02:39:01,267 --> 02:39:03,867
Speaker 8: and has the lowest earned run average what we call

3254
02:39:03,907 --> 02:39:07,187
Speaker 8: the ERA in the majors and only has second season.

3255
02:39:07,827 --> 02:39:11,987
Speaker 8: Stan has an incredible career two point zero seven ERA. Piney.

3256
02:39:12,347 --> 02:39:13,987
Speaker 8: I feel in a way that it's only a matter

3257
02:39:14,027 --> 02:39:16,907
Speaker 8: of time of when not left before another the stronger

3258
02:39:16,987 --> 02:39:19,307
Speaker 8: clubs of all that money will entice them away from

3259
02:39:19,347 --> 02:39:22,587
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh for are kings ransom. So we look at the batting.

3260
02:39:22,667 --> 02:39:24,187
Speaker 8: We look at the battest and the guys that are

3261
02:39:24,267 --> 02:39:27,507
Speaker 8: up for the awards. There are three main categories that

3262
02:39:27,587 --> 02:39:30,987
Speaker 8: they consider runners batted in which is called RBI, which

3263
02:39:31,027 --> 02:39:34,027
Speaker 8: is led by Kyle Schwarba. The Philadelphia Phillies with one

3264
02:39:34,107 --> 02:39:37,147
Speaker 8: hundred and nine home runs, Cal Raleigh of the Seattle

3265
02:39:37,227 --> 02:39:40,627
Speaker 8: Mariners with forty seven and New York Yankee Saga Aaron

3266
02:39:40,747 --> 02:39:44,547
Speaker 8: Judge with a betting average around only three point twenty

3267
02:39:44,627 --> 02:39:46,947
Speaker 8: nine so far the season. So one of these three

3268
02:39:46,987 --> 02:39:49,667
Speaker 8: guys will win to cover the MVP Award at season's end.

3269
02:39:51,107 --> 02:39:53,107
Speaker 3: Well, who are the favorites to win the World Series?

3270
02:39:53,187 --> 02:39:54,267
Speaker 3: Just before we move to NFL?

3271
02:39:55,147 --> 02:39:57,547
Speaker 8: YEP, So I've done the heavy lifting here and calculated

3272
02:39:57,587 --> 02:40:00,107
Speaker 8: the latest starts from three of the biggest betting agencies

3273
02:40:00,147 --> 02:40:03,027
Speaker 8: in Las Vegas. The latest betting nods see the World

3274
02:40:03,107 --> 02:40:05,947
Speaker 8: Series champion Dodgers favored to go back to back at

3275
02:40:05,987 --> 02:40:09,707
Speaker 8: plus then a big gap to the Philadelphia Phillies at

3276
02:40:09,747 --> 02:40:13,427
Speaker 8: plus six seventy, the Milwaukee Brewers at plus seventy ten,

3277
02:40:13,907 --> 02:40:16,347
Speaker 8: the Detroit Tigers at plus eight eighty five, and to

3278
02:40:16,467 --> 02:40:18,787
Speaker 8: round out the top five, the New York Yankees at

3279
02:40:18,827 --> 02:40:21,787
Speaker 8: plus ninety five. So basically, what there's numbers tell us

3280
02:40:22,227 --> 02:40:24,827
Speaker 8: is that the Dodgers, as long as they stay relatively healthy,

3281
02:40:25,387 --> 02:40:27,707
Speaker 8: are almost assuring to repeat, and every other team is

3282
02:40:27,747 --> 02:40:29,947
Speaker 8: fighting just to get to the World Series. But as

3283
02:40:29,987 --> 02:40:33,027
Speaker 8: we know, Piney sports. An always started on paper. It's

3284
02:40:33,027 --> 02:40:34,547
Speaker 8: all about he shows up on the day.

3285
02:40:34,947 --> 02:40:37,507
Speaker 3: Hang on, especially in the business end of the season. Right,

3286
02:40:37,587 --> 02:40:40,067
Speaker 3: let's go to the NFL. Are not that far away

3287
02:40:40,227 --> 02:40:44,187
Speaker 3: from getting underway. Final few preseason games and then Round

3288
02:40:44,307 --> 02:40:47,747
Speaker 3: one scheduled for a couple of weekends away. A couple

3289
02:40:47,787 --> 02:40:50,107
Speaker 3: of bits of news here Dallas Cowboys. But a drama

3290
02:40:50,307 --> 02:40:51,387
Speaker 3: at the Dallas Cowboys.

3291
02:40:52,067 --> 02:40:52,747
Speaker 10: Oh, I'll tell you what.

3292
02:40:52,907 --> 02:40:56,347
Speaker 8: The Cowboys they love the drama. So college football officially

3293
02:40:56,467 --> 02:40:58,707
Speaker 8: kicked off earlier today and Dublin Island of all places,

3294
02:40:58,907 --> 02:41:00,907
Speaker 8: so that means the NFL is just around the corner.

3295
02:41:00,987 --> 02:41:03,827
Speaker 8: The biggest story in the league right now is actually

3296
02:41:03,907 --> 02:41:07,067
Speaker 8: something unfolding off the stiel. The Dallas Cowboys in the

3297
02:41:07,187 --> 02:41:10,347
Speaker 8: past often referred to as America's team, and we're recently

3298
02:41:10,467 --> 02:41:12,947
Speaker 8: valued at more than twenty billion New Zealand dollars are

3299
02:41:12,987 --> 02:41:15,027
Speaker 8: in a bit of a standoff right now with their

3300
02:41:15,067 --> 02:41:18,827
Speaker 8: best player, defensive end Michah Parsons, is emboiled in a

3301
02:41:18,907 --> 02:41:22,827
Speaker 8: contract dispute for team owner slash general manager Jerry Jones.

3302
02:41:23,307 --> 02:41:25,667
Speaker 8: The star linebacker is holding out for a long term

3303
02:41:25,747 --> 02:41:29,067
Speaker 8: contract extension, which most are expecting him to eventually get

3304
02:41:29,107 --> 02:41:32,347
Speaker 8: as the highest paid non QB in the league, expected

3305
02:41:32,427 --> 02:41:35,347
Speaker 8: to be somewhere around seventy two to seventy seven million

3306
02:41:35,347 --> 02:41:38,187
Speaker 8: dollars a year. Parsons is an edge Russia and his

3307
02:41:38,427 --> 02:41:41,147
Speaker 8: role is to get out to the opposing quarterback, causing

3308
02:41:41,227 --> 02:41:44,627
Speaker 8: chaos in the backfield. He's one of only five players

3309
02:41:44,627 --> 02:41:47,987
Speaker 8: in NFL history to record twelve or more sacks in

3310
02:41:48,067 --> 02:41:51,467
Speaker 8: his first four seasons. The other four players they're all

3311
02:41:51,507 --> 02:41:53,627
Speaker 8: in the Football Hall of Fame. Now, the problem with

3312
02:41:53,787 --> 02:41:55,707
Speaker 8: Jones as GM is that in the past, by the

3313
02:41:55,827 --> 02:41:58,627
Speaker 8: time he inks then you deal with his star players,

3314
02:41:59,027 --> 02:42:01,067
Speaker 8: it's often too late in the season to back down,

3315
02:42:01,147 --> 02:42:03,267
Speaker 8: and he has to pay in the current market value,

3316
02:42:03,587 --> 02:42:06,467
Speaker 8: which for a shrewd business and makes no sense. Have

3317
02:42:06,547 --> 02:42:08,787
Speaker 8: been pretty much irrelevant on the field for the last

3318
02:42:09,147 --> 02:42:11,907
Speaker 8: thirty years, and they're owning the third best team is

3319
02:42:11,947 --> 02:42:14,787
Speaker 8: in their own division. So this drawn out sager between

3320
02:42:14,867 --> 02:42:17,427
Speaker 8: Jones and Parsons and what now defines a once proud

3321
02:42:17,547 --> 02:42:21,987
Speaker 8: franchise and unfortunately for long suffering Cowboys fans, because their

3322
02:42:22,027 --> 02:42:25,427
Speaker 8: own prefers the attention and unnecessary headlines, the team will

3323
02:42:25,507 --> 02:42:28,107
Speaker 8: continue to underperform and be on the outside looking at

3324
02:42:28,387 --> 02:42:30,147
Speaker 8: when it comes to being part of the narrative as

3325
02:42:30,187 --> 02:42:33,147
Speaker 8: a genuine Super Bowl contender, Aaron.

3326
02:42:32,947 --> 02:42:36,187
Speaker 3: Rodgers is the gift that keeps on giving the Pittsburgh

3327
02:42:36,187 --> 02:42:37,067
Speaker 3: Steelers quarterback.

3328
02:42:37,987 --> 02:42:41,187
Speaker 8: Kind yeah, every time someone talks about Aaron Rodgers, you

3329
02:42:41,227 --> 02:42:43,187
Speaker 8: know there's going to be some sort of drama around it.

3330
02:42:43,307 --> 02:42:45,507
Speaker 8: So if we look at the top three quarterbacks for

3331
02:42:45,587 --> 02:42:49,107
Speaker 8: the highest pass rating in NFL history, the Lamar Jackson

3332
02:42:49,147 --> 02:42:52,467
Speaker 8: at number three from the Baltimore Ravens, Patrick Mahomes second

3333
02:42:52,587 --> 02:42:55,907
Speaker 8: from the Kansassee Chiefs, and surprisingly, Aaron Rodgers is.

3334
02:42:55,947 --> 02:42:56,587
Speaker 16: At number one.

3335
02:42:56,707 --> 02:42:59,947
Speaker 8: So the new starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, he

3336
02:43:00,187 --> 02:43:02,547
Speaker 8: ranked first. And it's a bit surprising him when we

3337
02:43:02,587 --> 02:43:05,547
Speaker 8: consider as last three to five seasons have seen him

3338
02:43:05,627 --> 02:43:08,307
Speaker 8: slowly regard rest in terms of production and results as

3339
02:43:08,347 --> 02:43:12,387
Speaker 8: he ages out. For example, last season alone, he's failed

3340
02:43:12,427 --> 02:43:14,907
Speaker 8: to pass over four thousand yards and recorded twenty eight

3341
02:43:14,947 --> 02:43:17,707
Speaker 8: touchdowns and eleven interceptions, which is a long way office

3342
02:43:17,747 --> 02:43:21,827
Speaker 8: heyday when he was stacking MVP awards. Also interesting is

3343
02:43:21,867 --> 02:43:24,987
Speaker 8: that Rogers is sixth all time as a starting quarterback

3344
02:43:25,027 --> 02:43:27,667
Speaker 8: in the NFL, but it's way down the list at

3345
02:43:27,747 --> 02:43:31,667
Speaker 8: number twenty five all time in terms of fourth quarter comebacks.

3346
02:43:32,107 --> 02:43:35,747
Speaker 8: Further time eventually catches up pony, especially when we discussed

3347
02:43:35,827 --> 02:43:38,187
Speaker 8: profis who are looking to extend their careers into their

3348
02:43:38,267 --> 02:43:39,147
Speaker 8: forties nowadays.

3349
02:43:40,507 --> 02:43:42,627
Speaker 3: How much does it cost to go to an NFL game?

3350
02:43:44,467 --> 02:43:48,827
Speaker 8: Okay, I hope you're sitting down anyway. No, ticket prices

3351
02:43:48,867 --> 02:43:50,947
Speaker 8: for the opening week of the NFL season that they

3352
02:43:51,347 --> 02:43:54,267
Speaker 8: vary greatly. So again, I've converted all the monetary figures

3353
02:43:54,267 --> 02:43:57,187
Speaker 8: into the New Zealand dollars. For example, you can go

3354
02:43:57,347 --> 02:44:00,187
Speaker 8: watch New Orleans versus Arizona for the low bargain price

3355
02:44:00,267 --> 02:44:02,827
Speaker 8: of seventy five dollars, while at the top end of

3356
02:44:02,867 --> 02:44:06,467
Speaker 8: the scale, you can attend the Philadelphia Dallas game for

3357
02:44:06,627 --> 02:44:10,147
Speaker 8: no less than an i watering nine hundred and thirty

3358
02:44:10,187 --> 02:44:12,987
Speaker 8: two dollars. I mean, Kosh, it's no wonder these guys

3359
02:44:13,027 --> 02:44:16,587
Speaker 8: are getting paid astronomical suns when fans attending games have

3360
02:44:16,707 --> 02:44:18,907
Speaker 8: to shell out their hard earned money. Just to put

3361
02:44:18,947 --> 02:44:22,587
Speaker 8: it into context, the highest paid player in the NFL,

3362
02:44:22,707 --> 02:44:25,507
Speaker 8: but incredibly only the third best player in the division,

3363
02:44:25,987 --> 02:44:28,587
Speaker 8: earns a staggering one hundred and two million per season,

3364
02:44:28,627 --> 02:44:32,307
Speaker 8: which averages a mind blowing six million per game. Of

3365
02:44:32,427 --> 02:44:35,547
Speaker 8: the one hundred and twenty four quarterbacks currently contracted in

3366
02:44:35,627 --> 02:44:38,587
Speaker 8: the NFL. The lowest page still makes a decent month

3367
02:44:38,587 --> 02:44:41,867
Speaker 8: point four million per season. The crazy thing pining. With

3368
02:44:42,067 --> 02:44:44,507
Speaker 8: new TV deals on the horizon, these contracts will only

3369
02:44:44,587 --> 02:44:47,387
Speaker 8: continue to rise yearly. There seems to be no ceiling

3370
02:44:47,467 --> 02:44:48,347
Speaker 8: with these megabals.

3371
02:44:49,027 --> 02:44:55,147
Speaker 3: Just outrageous money, outrageous. It is a Netflix series Quarterback.

3372
02:44:55,387 --> 02:44:56,227
Speaker 3: No doubt you've caught it.

3373
02:44:57,307 --> 02:44:59,827
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I just wanted to ask you have you

3374
02:44:59,907 --> 02:45:00,827
Speaker 8: watched the series before?

3375
02:45:00,867 --> 02:45:01,387
Speaker 40: Have you seen it?

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Speaker 3: Or I haven't? I know it's on my list, but no,

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched it.

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Speaker 37: Ajay.

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Speaker 8: So it's reality TV at it's best, an intriguing look

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Speaker 8: into the most spotched sports competition of the world. We

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Speaker 8: get to have a look behind the curtain into the

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Speaker 8: lives of professional athletes at the top of their game. Now,

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Speaker 8: the quarterback is widely considered the most important position in

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Speaker 8: all of sports, mainly because they're required to handle the

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02:45:23,707 --> 02:45:26,547
Speaker 8: ball on almost every play and have to make quick

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Speaker 8: decisions under immense pressure. The success and failure of the

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Speaker 8: football team rests largely on their shoulders, hence the reason

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Speaker 8: they get paid the most. All of that aside, those

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Speaker 8: quarterback is a great series, and of some of your listeners,

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Speaker 8: haven't you watched the series, now into its second season.

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Speaker 8: I strongly encouraged them to do so before the season

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Speaker 8: kicks off. It's really compelling viewing. Maybe also a timey

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Speaker 8: distraction from the disappointment Oh well beloved almosts early today.

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Speaker 3: Finding maybe you're right just before you go.

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Speaker 2: Have you done that?

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Speaker 3: Have you done the heavy lifting on Super Bowl onds?

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Speaker 3: Who who's favored to lift it when we get round

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Speaker 3: of February?

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Speaker 8: Yep, So most breting agencies expect the Baltimore Ravens and

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Speaker 8: Buffalo Bills to win Super Bowl sixty in February, followed

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Speaker 8: closely by the defending champion Philadelphia Eagles, then the Kansas

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Speaker 8: City Chiefs and the Detroit Lions rounding out the top five.

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Speaker 8: I've purposely left out the actual beating O. There's a

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Speaker 8: line off and shifts marginally before the regular season starts.

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Speaker 8: Your Sun's team, the Minnesota Vikings, are hovering around number ten,

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Speaker 8: so they're certainly in with the real chance to lift

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Speaker 8: the long Marty. But as often allude to Piney, the

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Speaker 8: best news is that the NFL season kicks off and

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Speaker 8: early eleven sleeps and ten in counting down the days

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Speaker 8: until Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Bring it on, mate, bring it on and daily on.

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Speaker 3: Love your enthusiasm for all things American sport, mate, Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for the update le On Bosby taking us

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Speaker 3: state side here on weekend sport coming up eight away from.

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Speaker 1: Three, breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pin News Talk ZENB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk's EB five to three. That is pretty much

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Speaker 3: us for weekend Sport, for today and for the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening in for contributing. Heaps

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Speaker 3: of contributions are mainly even the All Blacks n the

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02:47:08,267 --> 02:47:11,307
Speaker 3: Warriors today. Good to get your feedback. Thanks for taking

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02:47:11,347 --> 02:47:12,867
Speaker 3: part in the show. Well, thanks just for listening and

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Speaker 3: we appreciate that you are busy. Anytime you spend with

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02:47:15,347 --> 02:47:20,187
Speaker 3: us is greatly appreciated. Thirty three twelve Otago Lead Counties

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Speaker 3: Manical with fifteen minutes to go in Dunedin, Tim Beverage

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Speaker 3: is on your radio after three o'clock with the Weekend Collective.

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Speaker 3: Massive thanks to Anny McDonald for producing the show today

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02:47:30,747 --> 02:47:33,147
Speaker 3: a longer one which always means more effort. Thanks mate,

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02:47:33,147 --> 02:47:35,747
Speaker 3: go and enjoy the rest of your Sunday afternoon, hope

3430
02:47:35,787 --> 02:47:38,987
Speaker 3: you enjoy yours as well. And for an exit song today, Well,

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Speaker 3: it is fourteen years to the day today that we

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Speaker 3: lost one of the greats of sports broadcasting in this country,

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Speaker 3: a much beloved voice and the voice behind some iconic

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Speaker 3: rugby and other sporting moments, the late, great great Graham Moody,

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02:47:57,587 --> 02:48:02,667
Speaker 3: passing away on this day in twenty eleven. And so

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Speaker 3: to take us out a song he always enjoyed playing

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Speaker 3: in the and there's it'd been newsroom and dancing around

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Speaker 3: the newsroom. So this is dance all around the world

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Speaker 3: from Blurt to take us out today. Rest well now, Moods.

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Speaker 6: Judice surround.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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