1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,507 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,867 Speaker 2: EDB black Caps have claimed an odio series sweep over Pakistan, 4 00:00:15,947 --> 00:00:18,387 Speaker 2: a forty three run win in the third game at 5 00:00:18,427 --> 00:00:22,707 Speaker 2: bay Oval yesterday. He's got one last chance that is 6 00:00:22,787 --> 00:00:26,907 Speaker 2: up and that is out and he's done it. Back 7 00:00:26,987 --> 00:00:31,227 Speaker 2: to back five wicket bags for Ben says. That's the game. 8 00:00:31,307 --> 00:00:35,867 Speaker 2: New Zealand win by forty three sen wickets in the series. 9 00:00:36,147 --> 00:00:39,947 Speaker 2: Just the two games, great finish office, final delivery. 10 00:00:40,027 --> 00:00:40,907 Speaker 3: He gets it done. 11 00:00:40,987 --> 00:00:43,307 Speaker 2: Yeah, back to back five wicket bags for Ben Sears 12 00:00:43,307 --> 00:00:45,467 Speaker 2: and Justice fourth od I the first time in New 13 00:00:45,547 --> 00:00:48,267 Speaker 2: zombowl has ever done that and taking out man of 14 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:51,067 Speaker 2: this series as well Ben Sears as well as congratulations 15 00:00:51,107 --> 00:00:53,467 Speaker 2: on the last couple of games. Ben clean sweep for 16 00:00:53,467 --> 00:00:56,507 Speaker 2: the series for New Zealand as well. So what's gone 17 00:00:56,587 --> 00:00:58,547 Speaker 2: so well over these three matches for the for the 18 00:00:58,587 --> 00:00:59,147 Speaker 2: black Caps. 19 00:00:59,947 --> 00:01:03,747 Speaker 3: Oh, I just think obviously it's a new team coming in. 20 00:01:04,307 --> 00:01:06,987 Speaker 3: Everyone was with quite a few guys over at the IPL. 21 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:09,787 Speaker 3: I think everybody was just super keen to get stuck 22 00:01:09,787 --> 00:01:12,227 Speaker 3: in and just yeah, put the best product out there 23 00:01:12,267 --> 00:01:13,907 Speaker 3: and it was it was just good fun. 24 00:01:14,107 --> 00:01:16,507 Speaker 2: Yeah. How enjoyable. Was it being part of what might 25 00:01:16,547 --> 00:01:19,747 Speaker 2: be called a pretty pretty fresh looking white ball team. 26 00:01:19,787 --> 00:01:21,507 Speaker 2: How how exciting was that? 27 00:01:22,427 --> 00:01:26,467 Speaker 3: Oh it was awesome. Yeah, just obviously a bit of 28 00:01:26,467 --> 00:01:31,147 Speaker 3: a different bowling unit with myself Dust coming in and 29 00:01:31,227 --> 00:01:34,747 Speaker 3: obviously was was at the Champion Trophy, but yeah it was. 30 00:01:34,867 --> 00:01:38,067 Speaker 3: It was really just a great group of guys. Really 31 00:01:38,147 --> 00:01:39,787 Speaker 3: enjoyed playing either and yeah it was good fun. 32 00:01:40,027 --> 00:01:43,027 Speaker 2: So back to back five wicket bags for you. Even 33 00:01:43,027 --> 00:01:45,667 Speaker 2: when you got your fifth wicket yesterday, I only read 34 00:01:45,747 --> 00:01:47,827 Speaker 2: a hint of a smile from you. You must have 35 00:01:47,947 --> 00:01:50,187 Speaker 2: enjoyed though, contributing to another win in this way. 36 00:01:50,947 --> 00:01:53,467 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely, no, it was great fun being out 37 00:01:53,467 --> 00:01:56,907 Speaker 3: there just to have yeah, Jacob Duffy and Willow Rock 38 00:01:56,947 --> 00:01:59,547 Speaker 3: bowling so well at the top. Yeah, it was just 39 00:01:59,627 --> 00:02:01,547 Speaker 3: it was an awesome opportunity just to come in behind 40 00:02:01,587 --> 00:02:03,107 Speaker 3: them and see if I could add a little bit 41 00:02:03,227 --> 00:02:07,507 Speaker 3: and like the pressure they built through those games, all 42 00:02:07,547 --> 00:02:10,267 Speaker 3: three of them really well, just put us on. Just 43 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:12,827 Speaker 3: touch on the front put but yeah, it does coming 44 00:02:12,827 --> 00:02:14,547 Speaker 3: hard at me, and it was it was nice to 45 00:02:14,627 --> 00:02:16,827 Speaker 3: get a few wickets on the back of that. 46 00:02:17,307 --> 00:02:20,387 Speaker 2: What is your bowling strategy in fifty over cricket. 47 00:02:21,987 --> 00:02:26,507 Speaker 3: Ah, well, I just get main focus is just trying 48 00:02:26,547 --> 00:02:29,547 Speaker 3: to build on the pressure that the bollets have built 49 00:02:29,547 --> 00:02:32,587 Speaker 3: before you, making sure I think, like on the wickets 50 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:34,667 Speaker 3: were playing off the year there was a bit in them, 51 00:02:34,747 --> 00:02:36,867 Speaker 3: So just trying to get it into two good areas, 52 00:02:36,987 --> 00:02:39,627 Speaker 3: especially when you've got bowling to guys like Bubba's arm 53 00:02:39,787 --> 00:02:43,707 Speaker 3: was pretty well classed and yeah, like trying to build 54 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:46,347 Speaker 3: pressure and then when you get the opportunity to get 55 00:02:46,347 --> 00:02:48,427 Speaker 3: it down there a little bit quicker and a little 56 00:02:48,427 --> 00:02:52,627 Speaker 3: bit yeah freer. Yeah, just taking advantage of that as well. 57 00:02:53,027 --> 00:02:55,467 Speaker 2: The thing that stands out for me being as your 58 00:02:55,507 --> 00:02:58,867 Speaker 2: strike rate a wicket every twenty balls and ODIs every 59 00:02:58,907 --> 00:03:02,987 Speaker 2: seventeen balls and T twenty Internationals and all T twenty matches, 60 00:03:03,027 --> 00:03:05,747 Speaker 2: you get a wicket every fifteen balls and a game 61 00:03:05,787 --> 00:03:09,227 Speaker 2: where restricting runs as paramount, are you pretty much given 62 00:03:09,347 --> 00:03:13,147 Speaker 2: license to do that by bowling wicket taking deliveries as 63 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:13,707 Speaker 2: often as. 64 00:03:13,547 --> 00:03:17,027 Speaker 3: You can, I think to be honest, I've just been 65 00:03:17,067 --> 00:03:19,867 Speaker 3: lucky to play with some really good bowlers so far. 66 00:03:20,107 --> 00:03:25,027 Speaker 3: So I was playing ill last season obviously Tim Soudi 67 00:03:25,187 --> 00:03:29,427 Speaker 3: was there Willow Rats and that he's been outstanding and 68 00:03:29,467 --> 00:03:33,107 Speaker 3: so those guys or Matt Henry, the phenomenal and obviously 69 00:03:33,227 --> 00:03:35,427 Speaker 3: Jacob Dusky at the moment was just always number one 70 00:03:35,427 --> 00:03:39,707 Speaker 3: twenty twenty dollar in the world. So it's unbelievable to 71 00:03:39,707 --> 00:03:41,547 Speaker 3: play with. And so when you play with those guys 72 00:03:41,587 --> 00:03:44,747 Speaker 3: and they build up ball pressure, they put batsmen under pressure, 73 00:03:45,507 --> 00:03:48,147 Speaker 3: just so happens they get first change bowl. They came 74 00:03:48,227 --> 00:03:52,787 Speaker 3: up bets and often come after you. So yeah, just bowling, 75 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:56,507 Speaker 3: coming in, just trying to get my product down there 76 00:03:56,507 --> 00:04:00,107 Speaker 3: after then yeah, you get lucky, sometimes you get your wickets, 77 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:02,147 Speaker 3: and it's just how it's panned out. 78 00:04:02,347 --> 00:04:04,987 Speaker 2: Well, you've done a tremendous job of deflecting any personal 79 00:04:05,067 --> 00:04:08,347 Speaker 2: price away from yourself. There, I must say, mate to 80 00:04:08,067 --> 00:04:10,307 Speaker 2: you to your bowling, you know which I know that's 81 00:04:10,347 --> 00:04:12,827 Speaker 2: what you're all about. But I mean, has the way 82 00:04:13,667 --> 00:04:15,947 Speaker 2: you know you've developed as a white ball bowler? Changed? 83 00:04:16,187 --> 00:04:19,827 Speaker 2: Is this the beast you've bowled with a white ball? Uh? 84 00:04:20,547 --> 00:04:25,187 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think it's always changing. I've I was 85 00:04:25,227 --> 00:04:27,267 Speaker 3: injured quite a bit of a season, so there's a 86 00:04:27,307 --> 00:04:28,827 Speaker 3: lot of time to think about how you get a bowl. 87 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:31,947 Speaker 3: And yeah, just I'm just trying to get more accurate, 88 00:04:32,027 --> 00:04:36,747 Speaker 3: more consistent just used my bouncer more regularly. But yeah, 89 00:04:37,067 --> 00:04:40,347 Speaker 3: it's it's been cool and yeah it's certainly developing, but 90 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:42,387 Speaker 3: just trying to well, especially why you're not playing, just 91 00:04:42,387 --> 00:04:45,107 Speaker 3: trying to constantly think so you can improve during those 92 00:04:45,147 --> 00:04:45,787 Speaker 3: times as well. 93 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:49,587 Speaker 2: How is your pace compared to other times in your. 94 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:53,907 Speaker 3: Career or Yeah, it's been coming out really well, I think, 95 00:04:53,987 --> 00:04:56,427 Speaker 3: just certainly in just the over cricket. It's just picking 96 00:04:56,467 --> 00:05:01,667 Speaker 3: when when when to use the aggression there, Like I'm 97 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:05,067 Speaker 3: saying before, like the wickets we've had, the wicket yesterday 98 00:05:05,227 --> 00:05:06,907 Speaker 3: was was doing a bit with the seem to just 99 00:05:06,947 --> 00:05:09,027 Speaker 3: making like this and foremost just trying to make sure 100 00:05:09,067 --> 00:05:11,027 Speaker 3: that you're in a good area and then when you 101 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:13,307 Speaker 3: get a smith with or you be's me coming in 102 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:16,667 Speaker 3: or someone who doesn't like a short ball or something 103 00:05:16,747 --> 00:05:18,947 Speaker 3: like that, just really trying to crank it up there 104 00:05:18,947 --> 00:05:21,747 Speaker 3: a bit, and yeah, just give yourself the best shout. 105 00:05:22,107 --> 00:05:24,827 Speaker 2: Now, what about Michael Bracewall's catch yesterday? Did you get 106 00:05:24,827 --> 00:05:25,667 Speaker 2: a decent view of it? 107 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:31,507 Speaker 3: I saw the dive and see the catch itself, but 108 00:05:32,107 --> 00:05:35,347 Speaker 3: yeah he does. He does Hollywood a little bit. So 109 00:05:35,867 --> 00:05:37,507 Speaker 3: he had put some nail on and I don't think 110 00:05:37,547 --> 00:05:40,587 Speaker 3: he needed to dive. It was a good cat. 111 00:05:40,867 --> 00:05:42,947 Speaker 2: He doesn't drop me an, Yeah, he's got big buckets 112 00:05:42,947 --> 00:05:43,747 Speaker 2: of hands, isn't he. 113 00:05:43,787 --> 00:05:47,507 Speaker 3: No, he's a heck of a fielder. He's a head 114 00:05:47,547 --> 00:05:48,387 Speaker 3: of cricketer. 115 00:05:50,027 --> 00:05:51,827 Speaker 2: And leading the team. So I mean, I know that 116 00:05:51,947 --> 00:05:53,987 Speaker 2: wasn't the original plan, but he you know, he stepped 117 00:05:53,987 --> 00:05:56,387 Speaker 2: into that leadership role. Obviously he's done it for Wellington 118 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:59,267 Speaker 2: a lot, but you know he must have. Well what 119 00:05:59,307 --> 00:06:02,267 Speaker 2: did you observe from him and as leadership of this team? 120 00:06:02,787 --> 00:06:08,347 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Feasters. Yeah, he's he's a true leader. Like 121 00:06:08,627 --> 00:06:12,747 Speaker 3: he's just a really good guy. Genuinely, it gets around 122 00:06:12,787 --> 00:06:15,587 Speaker 3: you looks after you having him at office just the 123 00:06:15,867 --> 00:06:19,667 Speaker 3: best case scenario and so yeah, just have him step 124 00:06:19,707 --> 00:06:22,347 Speaker 3: in there, like obviously you've had he's sepping in for 125 00:06:22,907 --> 00:06:25,667 Speaker 3: Mitt Stanton around then Tom Latham but they're awesome as well. 126 00:06:25,667 --> 00:06:29,347 Speaker 3: But just having a beast at Wellington and yeah, that's 127 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:34,067 Speaker 3: sins familiarity is just yeah, you can't back there. So yeah, 128 00:06:34,267 --> 00:06:34,947 Speaker 3: it's just awesome. 129 00:06:35,187 --> 00:06:37,547 Speaker 2: It feels like Wellington's taking over this team. You and 130 00:06:37,627 --> 00:06:40,147 Speaker 2: him Muhammed and a boss Nathan Smith, Nick Kelly in 131 00:06:40,187 --> 00:06:42,787 Speaker 2: there now as well. Nice to have the Firebirds so 132 00:06:42,867 --> 00:06:43,707 Speaker 2: well represented. 133 00:06:44,467 --> 00:06:47,667 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's awesome just having those guys around. 134 00:06:47,707 --> 00:06:50,587 Speaker 3: You've got so much cricket with them, obviously rutch And 135 00:06:50,587 --> 00:06:53,427 Speaker 3: and Dev and Blundele and there's all those guys there 136 00:06:53,427 --> 00:06:55,467 Speaker 3: as well to Robinson and the Tea twenty, So it's 137 00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:59,667 Speaker 3: awesome to a mess contingent, so familiarity and then yeah 138 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:02,547 Speaker 3: when you're startling him with guys like the dust Man 139 00:07:02,627 --> 00:07:04,347 Speaker 3: and stuff like that from out there. Yeah, it's just 140 00:07:04,747 --> 00:07:06,307 Speaker 3: it's a really good group of guys. 141 00:07:06,787 --> 00:07:09,107 Speaker 2: And you had that one Test match being against Australia 142 00:07:09,147 --> 00:07:11,587 Speaker 2: last summer, four wickets in the second innings. Look like 143 00:07:11,627 --> 00:07:13,747 Speaker 2: you loved it in the in the white clothing for 144 00:07:13,747 --> 00:07:16,307 Speaker 2: New Zealand. How strong is your appetite for more Test 145 00:07:16,347 --> 00:07:17,827 Speaker 2: cricket for the black Caps? 146 00:07:18,187 --> 00:07:21,267 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, You just certainly want to play as much 147 00:07:21,267 --> 00:07:24,147 Speaker 3: as they can. Grateful for every opportunity I get. Just 148 00:07:24,187 --> 00:07:27,027 Speaker 3: see how it pans out, like, yeah, obviously there's a 149 00:07:27,027 --> 00:07:29,427 Speaker 3: great group of there's a lot of bolders coming through 150 00:07:30,347 --> 00:07:33,987 Speaker 3: dust obviously buying normally well, so yeah, if I get 151 00:07:34,027 --> 00:07:36,027 Speaker 3: another opportunity, I'm absolutely cozing for it. 152 00:07:36,427 --> 00:07:39,467 Speaker 2: And You're off to play county cricket for Yorkshire. When 153 00:07:39,467 --> 00:07:40,147 Speaker 2: do you head off? 154 00:07:41,307 --> 00:07:45,067 Speaker 3: I head off on the eleventh, so yeah, pretty soon. 155 00:07:45,707 --> 00:07:49,987 Speaker 3: I'm really super excited for that. So yeah, yeah, I 156 00:07:49,987 --> 00:07:50,867 Speaker 3: can't wait to get over there. 157 00:07:50,907 --> 00:07:52,907 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you're heading off in good form being congrats 158 00:07:52,947 --> 00:07:55,267 Speaker 2: on the last couple of games, couple of five wicket 159 00:07:55,267 --> 00:07:56,747 Speaker 2: bags for you and man of the series. Thanks for 160 00:07:56,827 --> 00:07:58,987 Speaker 2: chatting to us, mate, all the best in the in 161 00:07:59,027 --> 00:08:00,947 Speaker 2: the northern summer and we'll catch you when you get home. 162 00:08:01,587 --> 00:08:02,667 Speaker 3: Cheers. Appreciate it, No. 163 00:08:02,627 --> 00:08:04,547 Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us. Ben. Thanks to day, Ben 164 00:08:04,587 --> 00:08:05,987 Speaker 2: sears on News Talks HEADB. 165 00:08:06,467 --> 00:08:09,587 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 166 00:08:09,707 --> 00:08:12,987 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 167 00:08:13,027 --> 00:08:14,627 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.