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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B, Your News Talks B and UH roots with us,

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Speaker 2: we're talking all things gardening. Somebody has made the claim

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Speaker 2: that Lacel will get their ass kicked by Saint Thomas

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Speaker 2: of Kinterbury at the National Rugby League Finals today. I

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Speaker 2: don't know I'd put a dollar on that, right, Gail. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm distracted by.

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Speaker 3: It's only a gamey, It's only a game. It's like

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Speaker 3: with the All Blacks bor baggage. But we've got the

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Speaker 3: decent covered stadium that is so important.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Oh Gail, good morning and welcome, good morning.

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Speaker 3: And what can I do for you?

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Speaker 4: Gail?

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Speaker 5: I want to ask about and we couldn't spell it.

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Speaker 3: Pelagonium pelagonium yeah, hash plant?

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Speaker 5: Well mine all flowering outside? Yeah, they're they're on tubs,

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Speaker 5: but I wanted to RePOP them, but they're all on

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Speaker 5: full flann too lags.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you better do it when it's not flowering.

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Speaker 3: If that's if that would be a clever thing to do.

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Speaker 3: You can do it now, but I'm not sure what

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Speaker 3: happens to the flowers. They might not like it very much.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and I give them a feet off the main time.

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Speaker 3: In the mean, what I would do now is I

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Speaker 3: would give them some liquid fertilizer if you water them

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Speaker 3: in the pot anyway. What you said, it's Julian, and

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Speaker 3: I just said it's chet because it's been pretty dry

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Speaker 3: in Canterbury. Actually and we're actually we're actually sprinkling, sprinkling

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Speaker 3: the garden, which is ridiculous, but there you are. But

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Speaker 3: the point is that if you have to water them,

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Speaker 3: for instance, anyway, because it's dry, get a liquid fertilizer.

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Speaker 3: You know, I use the wet and forget stuff, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff there you go, Yeah, seeweet and

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Speaker 3: seafoot soup. And in this case you always add, because

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Speaker 3: it's flowering, add a little bit of potash sulfate of potash.

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Speaker 5: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because that makes the play, don't said, buds.

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Speaker 3: That's brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, that's very kind.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and welcome girl.

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Speaker 2: Go well very mistery girl. You take care and tom

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Speaker 2: a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning from Yeah, it's a lovely day, amazing morning.

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Speaker 4: I got a question the rules, Yeah, good, I got

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Speaker 4: a I got a plant that you probably recognize, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know the name. It's growing Central Criterchurch is

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Speaker 4: going our garden. It's got a massive ring leave and

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Speaker 4: the flower just coming up. It's a very long flower.

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Speaker 4: Somebody told me once the poisonous flowers. But if this

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Speaker 4: plant go, I can read everywhere. Every time I try

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Speaker 4: to dig it out, I just to realize how big

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Speaker 4: the roots are just going forever. All of me is

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Speaker 4: that the plant, these plants growing near some amazing tree

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Speaker 4: that i'mbody wearing to put some anything on top of them,

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Speaker 4: that it might slip into the three roots. How do

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Speaker 4: I get rid of it?

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Speaker 3: Well, this this is the thing, Thomas, to be quite honest,

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Speaker 3: The best way to do is to get that weed

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Speaker 3: identified and I can work with that. The other thing

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Speaker 3: you can do is actually get yourself a weed killer

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Speaker 3: and make sure that you are just hitting the leaves

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Speaker 3: of the plant that you want to get rid of.

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Speaker 3: If you do that gently and it won't dribble too

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Speaker 3: much into the root zone of the trees that are nearby,

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Speaker 3: then you probably can get away with it. But honestly,

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Speaker 3: it's really hard if I don't know what it is,

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Speaker 3: and there are just saying there are some really cool

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Speaker 3: apps these days that you can put on your smartphone.

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Speaker 3: And the famous app that I use is I Natura

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Speaker 3: List one word, I Naturalist. If you can put it

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Speaker 3: on you, if you can put it on your phone,

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Speaker 3: you will very quickly learn. You use name in a

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Speaker 3: password cost you nothing, but that app will quite quickly

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Speaker 3: tell you what the plant is. And when you have

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Speaker 3: that name of the plant, you can then google that

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Speaker 3: name of the plant or that weed and you'll find

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Speaker 3: all the sort of clever ways of controlling it.

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Speaker 4: But there's no risk if I put something on the

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Speaker 4: lift that it's go through the lift, through the plant

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Speaker 4: roots and then find the three roots.

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Speaker 3: That no, no, that usually won't happen if you use

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Speaker 3: If you use a systemic we call that a systemic

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Speaker 3: weed killer, that means that the plant that is being

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Speaker 3: sprayed will actually translocate that particular weed killer right through

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Speaker 3: the whole weed, and that means it's far more effective.

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Speaker 3: But it will not go to another plant nearby unless

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Speaker 3: you spray the other plant.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, easy go.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely good luck to you. Tom, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for that. And Kate on there we go, Kate

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, hi.

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Speaker 6: High paid, high roots. May I ask might need a

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Speaker 6: bit of joint, is I hear? But I've got an

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Speaker 6: ornamental cherry tree and I need to put some permeable

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Speaker 6: parking next to it. And I need to take off

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Speaker 6: the top soil and get down to a layer where

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Speaker 6: I can put the metal and compact it prior to

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Speaker 6: doing the parking pad.

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Speaker 7: This tree was probably old when I bought the property.

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Speaker 7: I've had it for twenty one years and it's a

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Speaker 7: fifty year old property, so it's got to be there

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Speaker 7: for a while. It's just a darling one that blooms

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Speaker 7: in August, and I don't want to damage the roots

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Speaker 7: when I shave off the top soil. And I don't

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Speaker 7: think the permeable material on top is going to be

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Speaker 7: a problem because the water.

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Speaker 6: Will get through to it. Can I make sure I

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Speaker 6: don't It's only half of the tree that I'll be

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Speaker 6: affecting half of the roots. If I damage some of

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Speaker 6: those in taking off the top soil and putting this

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Speaker 6: material down, will the tree be all right?

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Speaker 3: Not necessary? I think you've got to be a bit

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Speaker 3: careful with it. Can you make that parking area on

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Speaker 3: top of the current soil that's there.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, peach can I.

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Speaker 2: The issue with not removing the top soil is that

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Speaker 2: the top soil has less resistance, let's say, to compaction.

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Speaker 2: So you know, from building point of view, you go

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Speaker 2: and then build up from there. Because top soil is softer,

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Speaker 2: that's why things grow on it. So but I would imagine,

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Speaker 2: and I've had to do this where we've used an

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Speaker 2: excavator around the tree and you know roud, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's all of those beautiful little fibrous roots that are

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Speaker 2: just underneath the surface, and removing those is going to

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Speaker 2: have an impact on the tree, saying that removing a

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Speaker 2: small part of it might not or the tree or

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Speaker 2: recover certainly. Look, I've had to do excavations where we've

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Speaker 2: tree roots, and we've had bust on site and trim

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Speaker 2: the edge of the tree, you know, rather than just

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Speaker 2: rip it out with a digger. You try and remove

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Speaker 2: them cleanly and treat the end of it and so on.

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Speaker 2: But I'd be pretty cautious. I'd have to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, you could see the tree sulkin, couldn't you Ye.

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Speaker 3: Would see that. But also so you're not going to

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Speaker 3: put a concrete on it.

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Speaker 2: It's a permeable material.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So in that case you can put it

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Speaker 3: on top of those roots. But that means you might

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Speaker 3: need a little bit of a way to get up

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Speaker 3: on that car park if that's too much. You know,

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Speaker 3: four inches shouldn't be a big deal, should.

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Speaker 2: It, I think, Kate, you know, rather like typically we'd go,

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Speaker 2: We're going to get in there with a digger. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to rip out anything that's nice and brown sort

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Speaker 2: of thing and go to clay. Right, But in your instance,

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Speaker 2: if it's just for a car park, and if it's

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Speaker 2: not an area that's servicing other properties and all the

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Speaker 2: rest of it, maybe I'd take an approach where I

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Speaker 2: just took the absolute minimum off, put some compacted hard

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Speaker 2: fill underneath it, geotextile, craft, compacted heart. I feel, do

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Speaker 2: your permeable thing, and if, for example, in three or

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Speaker 2: four five years time, the pavers need to be lifted

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Speaker 2: and re sanded and brought up to level, I'd accept that.

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Speaker 2: Over the tree dyeing would be my approach.

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Speaker 6: So do you think that pavers would be my best option.

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Speaker 6: That that that plastic stuff that you.

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Speaker 3: Fill with stones, right, that's so that's not that's no exactly,

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Speaker 3: you can do both. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good option because there is quite a

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Speaker 2: distinction between you know, regular pavers and permeable pavers. They

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Speaker 2: are two very separate things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're recommending you'll find it the tree. No

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Speaker 3: that what I'm what I'm saying is why not take

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Speaker 3: as little as you can off and build it slightly

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Speaker 3: up above the roots. You'll find that the roots will

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Speaker 3: find their other way back down and to the side

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Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. That is your least

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Speaker 3: damage option.

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Speaker 2: And to answer your question, Kate, I think if you

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Speaker 2: are prepared to have you loose metal there but in

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Speaker 2: that honeycomb system, that's probably the lowest impact. So that's

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Speaker 2: probably a really good solution. In fact, I created one

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago for some bin storage, and

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Speaker 2: it's right underneath the camellia tree. You know, Okay, it's

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Speaker 2: not traffickable and all the rest of it, but I

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Speaker 2: use that material. The tree is absolutely fine. So that

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Speaker 2: might be a good solution. Cake all the very best

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Speaker 2: to you. It is eight forty two here at news

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Speaker 2: Talk c B will take short break back in a

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Speaker 2: mow'd climb past with us as well. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty the number to call Ada. Good morning, Oh, good.

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Speaker 8: Morning to you boys. I won't try not to keep

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Speaker 8: you too long. But my gap, my daughter's just moved

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Speaker 8: to another place. And she went to plan to vegie

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Speaker 8: garden yesterday and it's full of ents and so Aho

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Speaker 8: pop plants. She lives in the lower we're small in

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Speaker 8: the area.

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Speaker 3: In christ Church, yes, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, And she put great jewels. She threw grade jewels,

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Speaker 8: those little gudgele things all over the garden and watered

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Speaker 8: it in. Was that the thing to do?

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Speaker 3: You mean? And ant stuff an ant bait or something? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends on how those nts react

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Speaker 3: to that. It's always very tricky with ants because they

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Speaker 3: have many different there might be many different colonies, and

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Speaker 3: they all have their own little territory if you like,

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Speaker 3: so you will need to be this is the this

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Speaker 3: is it isn't it? It's interesting because I don't have

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Speaker 3: too much. I'm just on the porthills, just on Kenny's boys.

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Speaker 8: I think she got quite a shock. I don't think

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Speaker 8: she likes saints very much. And I didn't realize when

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Speaker 8: she went to plant with vegis there was all these

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Speaker 8: ents in the soil, and.

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Speaker 3: You're sure their ants, it must be I suppose. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: look to be quite as what I would do is

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Speaker 3: I would put some bait around your vegetable garden, and debates,

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Speaker 3: and debates you can get, of course from the various places,

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Speaker 3: you know, the various garden centers and all that sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff. There's ants in your pants from wit and Forget,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty good. The point is that you need

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Speaker 8: No, they say, I'm Scottic, say, well, thinks anyway, that's

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Speaker 9: Are you love? Listening to your program? Both of you

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Speaker 9: I'm wanting to know could you help me? I'm wanting

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Speaker 9: to plant some strawberries. Never had any luck with them

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Speaker 9: We've got blood and bone, nitroposca, and ebbs and salts

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Speaker 3: Some salt is not a fertilizer officially. There you go.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and or around and underneath or around the top.

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Speaker 3: Put it as you're making this material, you know, if

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Speaker 9: And feed them. Yes, I've never had any luck with them,

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're doing the right thing. But don't

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Speaker 2: All right, you y, you take care you do just quickly.

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Speaker 2: I went to see a play last night. This has

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Speaker 2: So we went to see a play called in other Words,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer ward Leyland on stage. That it was spectacular, absolutely stunning.

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Speaker 3: Imagine having to remember the whole script.

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Speaker 8: I was just wondering if you could re remind me

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Speaker 3: I think it's called knee washy.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is you know what, I've just put that

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Speaker 2: Go for it, Peter, fabulous, fabulous right, last one from you, Scott,

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a cherry tree, and the leaves were quite

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Speaker 3: And did they have a grayish sheen on them as well?

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Speaker 10: Could I put like an upstone prooven this like some or.

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Speaker 2: Cycle of life, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what it's about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, mate, have a great day, have a great week.

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Speaker 2: And then I go now, yeah I think so.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do that. Thank you, thanks folks for

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Speaker 2: Populo say hello. I'll be doing a presentation probably around

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Speaker 2: midday check the title, but it's the Home and Garden

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