1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,933 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:27,173 --> 00:00:30,133 Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. You were jactating this Saturday Morning Kilder 4 00:00:30,253 --> 00:00:34,213 Speaker 2: Jack says Mark, social media is designed to be addictive 5 00:00:34,413 --> 00:00:37,093 Speaker 2: to make us feel good, gives us the dopamine hit, 6 00:00:37,173 --> 00:00:40,213 Speaker 2: the sugar rush, which is why it is not okay 7 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:44,533 Speaker 2: for developing minds and of questionable value for adults as 8 00:00:44,533 --> 00:00:46,853 Speaker 2: a society. I think it makes us less social. I 9 00:00:46,893 --> 00:00:48,853 Speaker 2: think it makes us more isolated. I think it makes 10 00:00:48,893 --> 00:00:51,293 Speaker 2: us more fragmented. So what's the answer. Well, for starters, 11 00:00:51,293 --> 00:00:56,013 Speaker 2: stop calling it social media education and work on creating 12 00:00:56,053 --> 00:00:59,693 Speaker 2: something better to replace it that doesn't involve smartphones. Thank 13 00:00:59,693 --> 00:01:02,893 Speaker 2: you very much, Mark, thoughtful message there from Mark ninety two. 14 00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:04,613 Speaker 2: Ninety two is our text number if you want to 15 00:01:04,613 --> 00:01:07,093 Speaker 2: flick mear message as well. Francesca, can I reckon? We'll 16 00:01:07,093 --> 00:01:08,933 Speaker 2: have a few thoughts on that. What do you reckon? Francesca? 17 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:12,693 Speaker 2: Would you support banning social media for people under the 18 00:01:12,733 --> 00:01:16,213 Speaker 2: age of sixteen unless they've got parental permission for fourteen 19 00:01:16,253 --> 00:01:17,133 Speaker 2: or fifteen year old. 20 00:01:17,693 --> 00:01:18,413 Speaker 3: Good luck with that. 21 00:01:19,253 --> 00:01:21,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I would say to you is the mother 22 00:01:21,613 --> 00:01:24,973 Speaker 4: of a eighteen year old and a fifteen year old. 23 00:01:25,813 --> 00:01:28,973 Speaker 4: You know, my kids, they didn't get smartphones until they 24 00:01:29,013 --> 00:01:31,333 Speaker 4: were kind of around thirteen. They didn't jump on the 25 00:01:31,453 --> 00:01:34,013 Speaker 4: Instagram and things like that till they were thirteen, which is, 26 00:01:34,453 --> 00:01:37,613 Speaker 4: you know, the recommended time. But I tell you what 27 00:01:37,733 --> 00:01:39,973 Speaker 4: I've learned, and they've been really honest and open with 28 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:43,813 Speaker 4: me about things. They find ways around things that parents 29 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:47,093 Speaker 4: have no idea about. They use their mates phones, they 30 00:01:47,173 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 4: can check what their mates are doing and use their phones. 31 00:01:49,893 --> 00:01:52,293 Speaker 4: I mean, I just think it is about education. I've 32 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:54,613 Speaker 4: got one kid who's right into it. I've got one 33 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:58,613 Speaker 4: who does, who does not post, who hardly follows, who 34 00:01:58,653 --> 00:02:02,053 Speaker 4: knows how to use it for their benefit and to 35 00:02:02,173 --> 00:02:03,093 Speaker 4: add value. 36 00:02:02,773 --> 00:02:06,013 Speaker 3: To their life, and the rest of it completely ignores it. 37 00:02:06,413 --> 00:02:09,813 Speaker 3: A bar of it. So interesting. That's all about just 38 00:02:10,813 --> 00:02:14,413 Speaker 3: education and understanding what works for her and what doesn't. 39 00:02:14,173 --> 00:02:15,893 Speaker 4: And what's a good thing to be part of them 40 00:02:15,933 --> 00:02:20,133 Speaker 4: what isn't. And I you know, she's a smart little cookie. 41 00:02:20,253 --> 00:02:25,373 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well I don't know this is all 42 00:02:25,413 --> 00:02:25,813 Speaker 3: from her. 43 00:02:26,413 --> 00:02:29,133 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but yeah, Look, I think I think there's 44 00:02:29,133 --> 00:02:31,893 Speaker 4: a really serious conversation to be had about what we 45 00:02:31,973 --> 00:02:34,133 Speaker 4: have allowed to become the norm. 46 00:02:34,613 --> 00:02:36,613 Speaker 3: It's really hard to tell parents what to do. 47 00:02:36,653 --> 00:02:39,213 Speaker 4: Everyone's in different situations, dealing with different things and are 48 00:02:39,253 --> 00:02:41,613 Speaker 4: really busy. But at the end of the day, we 49 00:02:41,653 --> 00:02:43,853 Speaker 4: have to completely change our whole perception as to what 50 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:47,493 Speaker 4: value we get from this digital world we live in, 51 00:02:47,693 --> 00:02:52,013 Speaker 4: and how to how to how to embrace it, what 52 00:02:52,053 --> 00:02:54,013 Speaker 4: it can bring to our lives and get rid of 53 00:02:54,013 --> 00:02:57,333 Speaker 4: the stuff that the negative stuff that doesn't contribute at 54 00:02:57,333 --> 00:02:58,013 Speaker 4: all to our lives. 55 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:01,733 Speaker 2: So well said, Okay, well we're going to pivot away 56 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:05,733 Speaker 2: from all that entertainment of another sort. Two different films 57 00:03:05,773 --> 00:03:07,893 Speaker 2: to discuss the morning, So let's start off with a 58 00:03:08,053 --> 00:03:10,133 Speaker 2: movie that's showing in cinemas at the moment. This is 59 00:03:10,413 --> 00:03:11,853 Speaker 2: Speak No Evil. 60 00:03:12,173 --> 00:03:13,293 Speaker 3: I want to pack up the current. 61 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:15,773 Speaker 4: I want to leave right now. 62 00:03:19,293 --> 00:03:22,413 Speaker 3: You can call out there and be completely novel. 63 00:03:26,093 --> 00:03:32,893 Speaker 2: From pretending as formal since we can't here Dan bye 64 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:37,293 Speaker 2: bye ba by us about. 65 00:03:37,453 --> 00:03:39,093 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what you would have packed up your 66 00:03:39,093 --> 00:03:41,453 Speaker 4: popcorn and left the theater because this is not a 67 00:03:41,493 --> 00:03:45,173 Speaker 4: relaxing film. You and I we've spoken about the psychological 68 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:47,853 Speaker 4: horrors and horrors and things that really are not the 69 00:03:47,853 --> 00:03:50,333 Speaker 4: most relaxing way to spend a couple of hoursand this 70 00:03:50,373 --> 00:03:53,013 Speaker 4: one really does nail it. It's a remake of the 71 00:03:53,213 --> 00:03:56,573 Speaker 4: Danish film that was actually released in twenty and twenty two. 72 00:03:57,013 --> 00:04:00,293 Speaker 4: The American version is it's a little bit safer. It's 73 00:04:00,453 --> 00:04:03,973 Speaker 4: a slightly less deflating film than the original. I don't 74 00:04:04,013 --> 00:04:05,733 Speaker 4: want to give too much away. I think if you've 75 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:09,573 Speaker 4: probably seen the original, you don't need to see this film. 76 00:04:10,213 --> 00:04:13,613 Speaker 4: It is very similar, except the last act is quite different. 77 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,693 Speaker 4: But that is not to say that if you really 78 00:04:16,853 --> 00:04:20,613 Speaker 4: enjoy sort of an edge of your seat exhausting psychological horror, 79 00:04:20,613 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 4: you won't enjoy a sort of number. That's the intention. 80 00:04:23,173 --> 00:04:26,653 Speaker 4: It is to make you feel uncomfortable, to sort of 81 00:04:26,693 --> 00:04:31,093 Speaker 4: push these push societal conventions and sort of see where 82 00:04:31,093 --> 00:04:33,773 Speaker 4: we land and how you feel about how everything kind 83 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:39,413 Speaker 4: of unfolds. And I mean, it is interesting this film 84 00:04:39,453 --> 00:04:43,733 Speaker 4: because there was a lot of talk about, you know, 85 00:04:45,253 --> 00:04:47,613 Speaker 4: not giving away too much about the story and the 86 00:04:47,613 --> 00:04:49,333 Speaker 4: plot and how things unfold. 87 00:04:49,853 --> 00:04:53,093 Speaker 3: Interestingly, though, I didn't think it was that clever. 88 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:56,413 Speaker 4: I think you and I sitting in this theater would 89 00:04:56,453 --> 00:04:59,493 Speaker 4: potentially kind of go uh huh, I know what's going 90 00:04:59,493 --> 00:05:02,973 Speaker 4: on here, and be absolutely right, you've got these there's 91 00:05:03,013 --> 00:05:06,733 Speaker 4: two couples, You've got this posh London dwelling and American 92 00:05:06,813 --> 00:05:07,853 Speaker 4: couple Louise and Ben. 93 00:05:07,893 --> 00:05:10,693 Speaker 3: They meet this other couple from the West Country, Paddy 94 00:05:10,733 --> 00:05:12,693 Speaker 3: and Caarra. They're on a holiday in Tuscany. 95 00:05:12,733 --> 00:05:16,413 Speaker 4: When they both return home, Paddy and Kara, they invite 96 00:05:16,453 --> 00:05:18,893 Speaker 4: Louise and Ben to come and spend the weekend with 97 00:05:18,933 --> 00:05:20,613 Speaker 4: them in the country, and they're a bit like, well, 98 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:23,053 Speaker 4: we don't really know these people, but they're having a 99 00:05:23,053 --> 00:05:24,813 Speaker 4: bit of a tough time at the moment, so they 100 00:05:24,853 --> 00:05:26,533 Speaker 4: decide that they'll head out and just sort of have 101 00:05:26,653 --> 00:05:30,373 Speaker 4: this little break and things. They take their twelve year 102 00:05:30,373 --> 00:05:33,213 Speaker 4: old daughter, Agnes to play with Paddy and Kara's son 103 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:36,133 Speaker 4: and who has some speech issues, and they get there 104 00:05:36,253 --> 00:05:39,773 Speaker 4: and things sort of yeah, you're not quite sure whether 105 00:05:39,853 --> 00:05:42,453 Speaker 4: things are okay or not, And that's the whole intention 106 00:05:42,573 --> 00:05:43,093 Speaker 4: with this film. 107 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:43,733 Speaker 3: That's what it does. 108 00:05:43,973 --> 00:05:46,693 Speaker 4: It sort of teases you into thinking that maybe not 109 00:05:46,773 --> 00:05:48,813 Speaker 4: everything is as it seems, and then it reassures you 110 00:05:48,893 --> 00:05:50,853 Speaker 4: it is and you kind of go off on this journey. 111 00:05:51,053 --> 00:05:55,013 Speaker 4: James McAvoy is absolutely brilliant as Paddy. He is totally 112 00:05:55,013 --> 00:06:00,133 Speaker 4: committed and terrifying and wonderful. And Mackenzie Davis, who plays Louise. 113 00:06:00,253 --> 00:06:03,693 Speaker 3: Also she fights back beautifully as well. 114 00:06:04,333 --> 00:06:07,133 Speaker 2: Nice. Okay, Yeah, it sounds like something that I'm not 115 00:06:07,173 --> 00:06:11,013 Speaker 2: going to go to, honest, No, but it does. It 116 00:06:11,013 --> 00:06:13,733 Speaker 2: sounds interesting, nonetheless, and I'm sure there will be some 117 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:16,653 Speaker 2: fans out there, so let's speak no evil. That's in cinemas, 118 00:06:18,013 --> 00:06:21,133 Speaker 2: available on streaming services to buy or rent. Tell us 119 00:06:21,173 --> 00:06:21,973 Speaker 2: about Radical. 120 00:06:22,933 --> 00:06:26,413 Speaker 4: Yes, the Radical is at cinemas. It is a real 121 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:29,013 Speaker 4: crowd pleaser. It is a Mexican film. It's based on 122 00:06:29,053 --> 00:06:32,573 Speaker 4: a true story, and it's directed by a filmmaker called 123 00:06:32,653 --> 00:06:35,973 Speaker 4: Christopher Zala, and it is a story we've seen before. 124 00:06:36,133 --> 00:06:38,933 Speaker 4: It's a story of a teacher who empowers his students 125 00:06:38,973 --> 00:06:42,333 Speaker 4: through his unconventional teaching ways and the ways that he 126 00:06:42,453 --> 00:06:45,733 Speaker 4: manages to engage these children. It is worth saying though, 127 00:06:45,733 --> 00:06:48,053 Speaker 4: because the setting is quite unique. It's set in a 128 00:06:48,173 --> 00:06:55,053 Speaker 4: very violent, poor, gang infested part of Mexico. Helio Durbez 129 00:06:55,133 --> 00:06:58,573 Speaker 4: he plays our lead character, our teacher so here, and 130 00:06:58,733 --> 00:07:02,813 Speaker 4: he delivers a very heart without emotional performance. He is 131 00:07:02,853 --> 00:07:05,613 Speaker 4: a teacher who is at a point in his life 132 00:07:05,653 --> 00:07:08,373 Speaker 4: where he is deaf spirit to feel that his entire 133 00:07:08,493 --> 00:07:11,373 Speaker 4: career of teaching children hasn't been a waste of time 134 00:07:11,413 --> 00:07:12,373 Speaker 4: and he ends up in. 135 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:15,453 Speaker 3: This very poor school. He has these children who they're 136 00:07:15,493 --> 00:07:16,213 Speaker 3: twelve years old. 137 00:07:16,293 --> 00:07:18,213 Speaker 4: One is about to leave because her mother is having 138 00:07:18,253 --> 00:07:20,973 Speaker 4: another baby and she will be responsible for looking after 139 00:07:21,013 --> 00:07:23,933 Speaker 4: the baby while the mother works. Another little boy in Nico, 140 00:07:24,893 --> 00:07:26,773 Speaker 4: his family is part of a gang and he has 141 00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:28,973 Speaker 4: no other option but to be brought into. 142 00:07:28,733 --> 00:07:31,013 Speaker 3: This world and he will be leaving school. And then 143 00:07:31,053 --> 00:07:34,933 Speaker 3: we have Palerma and she is probably. 144 00:07:34,573 --> 00:07:38,933 Speaker 4: The reason why this story went national in Mexico, and 145 00:07:38,973 --> 00:07:41,693 Speaker 4: that's because she lives in a dump site with her 146 00:07:41,733 --> 00:07:45,013 Speaker 4: father and they trawls through the rubbish dump to find 147 00:07:45,093 --> 00:07:46,693 Speaker 4: metal and things to recycle and. 148 00:07:46,653 --> 00:07:48,533 Speaker 3: Make money and try it in a living. She's a 149 00:07:48,573 --> 00:07:49,653 Speaker 3: mathematical genius. 150 00:07:50,053 --> 00:07:52,293 Speaker 4: So you've and that's the other reason to watch this 151 00:07:52,373 --> 00:07:55,853 Speaker 4: film is the director has got these amazing performances out 152 00:07:55,853 --> 00:07:56,733 Speaker 4: of this young cast. 153 00:07:57,053 --> 00:07:58,413 Speaker 3: So there's a mix of humor. 154 00:07:58,573 --> 00:08:02,173 Speaker 4: There are some devastating sort of heartbreaking moments, but you 155 00:08:02,213 --> 00:08:02,973 Speaker 4: will leave this. 156 00:08:02,933 --> 00:08:05,813 Speaker 3: Film utterly uplifted. It is a delight. 157 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:09,333 Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's an easy choice for me this 158 00:08:09,373 --> 00:08:09,813 Speaker 2: week's friend. 159 00:08:10,613 --> 00:08:12,493 Speaker 3: Oh I think I think so as well. 160 00:08:13,413 --> 00:08:16,173 Speaker 2: That like, it just ticks every single box from me Okay. 161 00:08:16,533 --> 00:08:20,093 Speaker 2: Radical is Francesca's second film. That first film was Speak 162 00:08:20,173 --> 00:08:22,213 Speaker 2: No Evil. All of the details would both will be 163 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:25,133 Speaker 2: up on the News Talks EDB website for. 164 00:08:25,173 --> 00:08:28,253 Speaker 1: More from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live to 165 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:31,493 Speaker 1: News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow the 166 00:08:31,493 --> 00:08:32,973 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio