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Speaker 1: Murray Old's Ossie correspondents with that's.

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Speaker 2: Jimas very good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: The Libs have done it. They've dounped the net zero

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Speaker 1: by twenty fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they have. They've rolled the dice. The Conservatives within

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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party at the federal level have have won

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Speaker 2: the day. They've won over the moderates. They've beaten the

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Speaker 2: moderates who wanted to hang on to net zero twenty fifty.

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Speaker 2: That was the position signed up to by Scott Morrison,

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Speaker 2: the former Liberal Prime minister. But this really look, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a tough. It's a very tough position for the

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Speaker 2: Liberals to take. And i'll tell you why. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: tough for Susan Lee, who's still on their feet speaking

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Speaker 2: in Canberra right now justifying this decision. It's tough on

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Speaker 2: two levels. They're going to try and sell it as

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Speaker 2: a win for Australians who are battling ever higher power bills,

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Speaker 2: and you can't deny that is very much the case

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Speaker 2: the power bills. I mean, you know, Anthony Alberniz, we're

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Speaker 2: going to cut power bills by two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: five dollars. Well, what why that didn't happen. In fact,

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Speaker 2: bills went north, and so that's the way the Liberals

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Speaker 2: are going to frame it. But here's the thing. There

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Speaker 2: are two things that you're going to have to say

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Speaker 2: about that. Business groups here, the biggest business lobbies in

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Speaker 2: the country, and the National Farmers Federation, three very powerful

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Speaker 2: institutions here. They all said, you cannot dump this, you

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Speaker 2: can't keep yo yoing on policy. If you want investment

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Speaker 2: in this country, you have to pay will have a

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Speaker 2: position and stick to it. Now, the Liberal Party has

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Speaker 2: been tearing itself to pieces heather, as you and I

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Speaker 2: both know, for a decade or more. It's just this

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Speaker 2: festering sauw that won't go away. So you've got the

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Speaker 2: business lobby and farmers against this, and you've also got

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Speaker 2: anyone under the age of thirty thirty five is going

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Speaker 2: to look at this think here's a party run by

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Speaker 2: old blokes and suits who don't believe in climate change,

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Speaker 2: wha not going to vote for them ever, And the

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Speaker 2: only people who left to vote for the conservative liberal

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Speaker 2: rump they're going to be old white men with very

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Speaker 2: poor education, a bit like we saw in the United

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Speaker 2: States for Trump. You know, it's it's so tough and

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Speaker 2: Susan Lee now is you know, she's basically stuck her

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Speaker 2: own head on the pole outside Parliament House because she said,

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Speaker 2: you know, we have to keep nets, you have to

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Speaker 2: get more until we don't. So it's been so tough

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Speaker 2: on her and these right wings, the right wingers in

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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party have been tearing it down from the

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Speaker 2: day she was elected. It's just such a tough gig

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Do you think do you think her leadership is now

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Speaker 1: basically done?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think so, I think so. I think it's

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Speaker 2: just a question of timing now, Heather. But here's the

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Speaker 2: thing with Labor ninety four seats, the coalition forty forty three.

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Speaker 2: You look, you know, unless there's something catastrophic, it happens

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Speaker 2: to Labor. The opposition's got another two years of this

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Speaker 2: term of government and then two more terms. So it's

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Speaker 2: like eight eight years, eight or nine years now? Who

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Speaker 2: wants that gig? Gee? Where's That's a tough gig. But

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Speaker 2: you know, these thrusting blokes and blue suits and the

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Speaker 2: right will you know, I bet they have their hands

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Speaker 2: out in the new year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe so, Hey, I see our mates. The new

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Speaker 1: nazis out of jail.

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Speaker 2: Oh he is this is this Thomas Sule I hate

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Speaker 2: immigration to Tommy, you were born at New Zealand vape.

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Speaker 2: He was bailed that he spent two months in jail.

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Speaker 2: The charged over this neo Nazi attack. Horrible, horrible attack

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Speaker 2: on an indigenous camp that has been set up in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: It's called Camp Sovereignty and for whatever reason, the neo

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Speaker 2: Nazis thought, here's some Indigenous Australian, let's go and attack

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Speaker 2: their camp. Well that didn't work so well for Thomas

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Speaker 2: sull and fourteen others. The Saul himself is facing twenty

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Speaker 2: five charges, you know, and very serious. I mean you're

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Speaker 2: talking decent jail time if he's convicted. Back in August,

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Speaker 2: the magistrate said this guy, Saul, you're a dangerous to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the community. I'm going to lock you up.

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Speaker 2: He has appealed. He's out today pending, of course, more

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Speaker 2: court dates to face these charges about this attack on

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Speaker 2: the camp.

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Speaker 1: Miles, thanks very much. You look after yourself, as Murray Olds,

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