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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealander, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number three oh nine for the seventeenth

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Speaker 2: of March, Saint Patti's Day, twenty twenty six. And yeah, boy,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the show, we got into people

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Speaker 2: being banged up a broad chat because there's a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of kibis and prisons overseas. It's quite quite amazing

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Speaker 2: when you look into the numbers and there's an article

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Speaker 2: out today about it. And some of these stories were

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Speaker 2: pretty good. And there's there's a there's a trick to

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Speaker 2: how you were, how you bribe.

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Speaker 3: A good tip. Never heard it before, but boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna have a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Give them a taste? Kew We all right then, love you.

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Speaker 1: Love big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon

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Speaker 1: Swift GODA News Talk S ed B.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome and to chew Tuesday Show,

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Speaker 3: seven past one. Really great to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're having a good day so far.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Matt? Very well? Thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 2: everyone for tuning in, looking forward to three hours of

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Speaker 2: scintillating conversation on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We've got a big show for you.

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Speaker 3: Now, just before we get into that first thing, thank

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Speaker 3: you to Tracy for that amazing, beautiful moist chocolate and

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Speaker 3: fused banana cake banana loaf. I should say that you

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Speaker 3: gave me yesterday. We smashed it, yeah, I mean gave

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Speaker 3: it to may Eve and she said, what half each?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well you can have you can have a slice.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I'll hand that over to my lovely partner Tracy. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell her that you said that. But she will not

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Speaker 2: like that you used the word moist. If you say

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Speaker 2: moist anywhere ere she runs out of the room.

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Speaker 3: What is it with people are moist?

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Speaker 2: She's got a phobia for the word moist.

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Speaker 3: How else do I describe such a succulent banana loaf?

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Speaker 3: Moist were just so apt. We've set up three times now.

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Speaker 2: Whenever a is served you're never more than about two

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Speaker 2: that's eating cake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but can I just say if there's anymore,

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Speaker 2: Or whatever else she's got going on. Actually for a

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Speaker 3: Also, I was going to give a week shout out

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Speaker 3: So I'll do it now. So Connor Waste, we've had

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Speaker 3: He came right up to the fence that I could

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Speaker 2: That's nice, isn't it. So you're one of those people

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Speaker 2: He was amazing. This was a skip. This is a skip,

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Speaker 3: In the end, he just said if the fence was

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Speaker 2: I'm on the bags now, the rubbish bags. You know,

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Speaker 2: but I want to know how they managed to pick

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Speaker 3: I know, if you're in the game, if you're in

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Speaker 2: How do you give it to those huge skip bags

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Ninety two nine two is that number? But on

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Trade shows that

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Speaker 3: more than seventy Kiwis are currently imprisoned overseas. Officials say

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Speaker 3: The cases involve Kiwi's jailed across multiple different countries for

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Speaker 2: But after three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's one of the I think about

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Speaker 2: forward to hearing that three o'clock talent. Yeah, I might

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Speaker 2: not be allowed back, but anyway, it's one of your fears,

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Speaker 2: Like you go to these different countries and you know,

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Speaker 2: You got those stories of people with the cells just

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Speaker 2: do whatever. So it is something that it's in the

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Speaker 2: a midnight Express type situation where you're doing something.

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Speaker 3: Wrong but you know, wrong place, wrong time.

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Speaker 2: I'm accused of something. People get accused of things they

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Speaker 3: Yep, some obscure law that you didn't know, you didn't

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Speaker 2: A foxy NAXI situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Looking forward to your thoughts and stories

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Speaker 3: on that after three o'clock. After two o'clock, changes could

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Speaker 3: soon be coming to our alcohol laws. The Sale of

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Speaker 3: Alcohol Amendment Bill was announced yesterday by David Seymour.

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Speaker 3: The proposals include limits on who can object to license applications,

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Speaker 2: Yes, so does this go far enough or too far?

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear thoughts on one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: current situation where every event has to reinvent their wheel

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Speaker 2: on the alcohol laws super punishing and any absolute wounder

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Speaker 3: Yeah, going to get your views on that after two o'clock,

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Speaker 3: because let's discuss EV's byd General manager Warren will Not

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Speaker 3: He was on with Mike Hoskin this morning and talking

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Speaker 3: they sold on Saturday. It was quadruple their usual sale.

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Speaker 3: He sees on that particular weekend they sold eighty vehicles.

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Speaker 7: Typically on a Saturday, we'd probably do between twenty and

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Speaker 8: So they think on serious increase.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and our Australian friends are doing even better. They

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Speaker 8: Hybrids or BEVs, well both.

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Speaker 7: Actually we're quite fortunate that our hybrids are super hybrids,

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Speaker 7: so you can have beasts of both worlds.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So I was told in general that what people

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Speaker 8: do when they got in to a full bed is

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Speaker 8: they think about it. They work through it, They work

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Speaker 8: through whether they can charge it properly, whether it fits

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Speaker 8: their lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 8: They don't come in because the price of oil has

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Speaker 8: suddenly gone up and go I'll have a BEV.

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Speaker 9: I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people do their research first. But I

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Speaker 7: think what's happened is people have been have been on

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Speaker 7: moment now to actually go and do that. They're doing

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Speaker 7: their research. But the thing is our super hybrids are

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Speaker 7: a step into a full bed, so you can get

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Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty k's range on EV and then

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Speaker 7: a thousand k's range and hybrid mode and you never

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Speaker 8: So what you needed was not a government subsidy, You

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Speaker 8: needed a war And this could be a tipping point.

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Speaker 7: I think you know, the clean Cause of subsidy was

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Speaker 7: a great thing to get byd into New Zealand. But

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Speaker 7: even better is the Clean Cars Standard, which helps us

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Speaker 7: encourage me wanting to bring new technology to New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: like vehicle bread like cards that can charge in for

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Speaker 2: People called b e v's BEVs. I've never heard anyone

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Speaker 2: Beg fory? Surely it is eighteen past one, the big.

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Speaker 3: Be afternoon to you. It's twenty one past one and

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Speaker 3: we're talking about EV's and pH EV's. This was after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey guys, it will be a great conversation today. However,

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Speaker 2: And back to the future. Yeah, I mean we all

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Speaker 2: How many gigawats do they have to get up.

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Speaker 2: How many gigawatts? And that's the future they're to gun

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Speaker 3: Eighty eight I know that much. Yeah, eighty eight miles

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Speaker 3: per hour, one gigawatts some text I just had to wait. Yeah, Alan,

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Speaker 10: I'm not that over wrapped with them talking about it.

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Speaker 3: I will have to at some stage, but not yet.

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Speaker 3: I've I've seen the value plummet on my one.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they plumb it all right, compared to a combustion engine.

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Speaker 2: That is that, Allan. Is it because people think that

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Speaker 10: take more of our power.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you're buy an EV, you know that's

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Speaker 3: You don't like the idea of just having you know,

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Speaker 2: Okay. So like if a new battery is ten fifteen

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Speaker 3: Cheers, MO, that's a good setup. Oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to callse?

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Speaker 2: and now we've jumped on board and we're confusing people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so should we not call them beavs and fears because

441
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Speaker 2: the other one is the plug in hybrid EV.

442
00:19:11,053 --> 00:19:13,493
Speaker 3: Let's just call them EV's. Everyone knows what an EV is.

443
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:16,293
Speaker 2: You have the key key distuss here is a huge difference,

444
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Speaker 2: because the reason why BYD is doing so well is

445
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Speaker 2: because they sell a lot of fevs bgvs. Yeah.

446
00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:25,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

447
00:19:25,693 --> 00:19:28,053
Speaker 3: number to call if you're currently driving an electric car

448
00:19:28,213 --> 00:19:30,053
Speaker 3: or you recently purchased it. Was it all that it

449
00:19:30,173 --> 00:19:32,292
Speaker 3: was cracked up to be? Are you enjoying it? Are

450
00:19:32,293 --> 00:19:34,093
Speaker 3: you seeing some good savings? And if you're in the

451
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Speaker 3: market for a new vehicle, are you starting to seriously

452
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Speaker 3: consider EV or PHEV?

453
00:19:39,173 --> 00:19:42,693
Speaker 2: Again, this person says you're crazy. Plugging in your EV

454
00:19:42,933 --> 00:19:46,733
Speaker 2: causes radiation and gives you cancer. Okay, right, I had

455
00:19:46,893 --> 00:19:48,173
Speaker 2: heard that before. I'm going to have to see some

456
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Speaker 2: more evidence before I believe.

457
00:19:49,853 --> 00:19:51,933
Speaker 3: That one twenty eight pass one bag shortly.

458
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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic Hosking Breakfast.

459
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Speaker 8: Judgment produced our worst case scenario around the war, inflation

460
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Speaker 8: could hit three point seven percent.

461
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Speaker 2: That's if the war goes all year.

462
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Speaker 8: I think of Willis is the Finance minister. What are

463
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Speaker 8: you doing peddling misery?

464
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Speaker 13: Ranger scenario? Is it the case?

465
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Speaker 14: Don't know what's going to seconds, But of course we

466
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Speaker 14: remain hopeful.

467
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Speaker 8: By the time you get to the worst case scenario

468
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Speaker 8: lasting all year, which of course it isn't. You're into

469
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Speaker 8: guesswork territory anyway.

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Speaker 13: Look, it is these forecast there guessing games for everyone

471
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Speaker 13: in the world.

472
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Speaker 5: You're trying to.

473
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Speaker 8: Well, we play list guessing games and just get on

474
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Speaker 8: with life for goodness sake.

475
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, at the government's getting on with life.

476
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Speaker 5: But we also have to be proactive.

477
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Speaker 8: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Husking Breakfast with

478
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Speaker 8: Bayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB twenty.

479
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Speaker 2: Nine to two.

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Speaker 3: So are you in the market for a EV electric

481
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Speaker 3: vehicle with the price of fuel at the moment? Oh,

482
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

483
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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two share your story or to say

484
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Speaker 3: I mentioned a couple of times, I've got a PHGV.

485
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Speaker 3: It'sib it's this year Eclipse Cross and I generally do

486
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Speaker 3: love it. I think it's actually paid dividends for us,

487
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Speaker 3: and I mostly use it to get to and from work,

488
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Speaker 3: run a few errands during the day. Very rarely do

489
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Speaker 3: I have to go to a petrol station. I mean,

490
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Speaker 3: you can see it's got it on the statistics in

491
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Speaker 3: the car. So at the moment, I'm running two point

492
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Speaker 3: one liters of fuel for every one hundred k I drive.

493
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Speaker 3: That's very efficient and it would be a rare occasion

494
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Speaker 3: for me. I'd fill up maybe four or five times

495
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Speaker 3: a year. The only time I'd need to use fuel

496
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Speaker 3: if if I leave Auckland.

497
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Speaker 2: Do you plug it in when you get home every night?

498
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Speaker 2: Every night? Chuck it in? I can't handle doing that.

499
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Speaker 2: That seems like too much effort. So you have to

500
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Speaker 2: plug it in. You've got your stuff, you've got to

501
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Speaker 2: carry into the house, yep, you got to deal with

502
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Speaker 2: the dog. You're got to plug in your ev That

503
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Speaker 2: seems like too much Evey me. I'm already got to

504
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Speaker 2: plug in on my phone. Now that's already taking out

505
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Speaker 2: more dasy.

506
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Speaker 3: You're drive into your garage, the plug's right there. But

507
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Speaker 3: then here's the kicker for the new ones is that

508
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Speaker 3: it will start charging itself after seven o'clock because that's

509
00:21:52,013 --> 00:21:55,093
Speaker 3: when power's cheaper. So you can set it to you know,

510
00:21:55,893 --> 00:21:57,453
Speaker 3: just set the wee thing and then I don't have

511
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Speaker 3: to do anything and boom.

512
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Speaker 2: So with your FEV, you're plug in hybrid EV if

513
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Speaker 2: you're driving between cities. So if you're driving from Wellington

514
00:22:06,013 --> 00:22:10,333
Speaker 2: to Auckland or let's just say now to christ that's

515
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Speaker 2: your stomping ground back day, yep. Would you drive for

516
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Speaker 2: a bit on the EV and then flick a switch

517
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Speaker 2: and head over to the gas or does that happen

518
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Speaker 2: automatically or what do you do there?

519
00:22:20,213 --> 00:22:22,013
Speaker 3: There's a week button for the EV. That's what the

520
00:22:22,053 --> 00:22:24,173
Speaker 3: smart people would do, is that if you're on the highway,

521
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Speaker 3: use the fossil fuel because it's more efficient and electrics

522
00:22:27,293 --> 00:22:29,572
Speaker 3: not very efficient at one hundred k. And then when

523
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Speaker 3: you get into a town and whack it on EV,

524
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Speaker 3: I don't I just sat the battery straight away, get

525
00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:36,973
Speaker 3: my free fifty k and then back on the juice.

526
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Speaker 2: Seems to eat pretty well. Josh, you're running two EV's, Yeah, sure.

527
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Speaker 12: I think like we've had EV's for a while and

528
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Speaker 12: I think there's just like a real legacy thought process

529
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Speaker 12: around the people that are looking at Persson cars and

530
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Speaker 12: what actually EV gives you. Like I'm a sales rep

531
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Speaker 12: and so we I was paying about four hundred bucks

532
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Speaker 12: a week in diesel and my old Repto and just

533
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Speaker 12: like it to go to a to an EV.

534
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Speaker 5: And like the range.

535
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Speaker 12: Now people complain about range. They think you can't do

536
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Speaker 12: long trips, they and it is more sort of mindset around,

537
00:23:21,013 --> 00:23:24,213
Speaker 12: oh well, you've got this short level range, you can't

538
00:23:24,293 --> 00:23:27,453
Speaker 12: go long distance. It's a real saga to charge. But

539
00:23:27,853 --> 00:23:31,653
Speaker 12: the reality is that it's just not like which are

540
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Speaker 12: all from Auckland to the mountains and we have like

541
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Speaker 12: a twenty minute coffee break on the way.

542
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Speaker 4: Charge it up.

543
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Speaker 12: But it's just so much more what you actually get

544
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Speaker 12: for your money, I think is a lot better than

545
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Speaker 12: what you get with a traditional combussion engine vehicle. But yeah,

546
00:23:49,693 --> 00:23:52,373
Speaker 12: like you're right, people perceive that you get upgrades and

547
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Speaker 12: things go. The things are.

548
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Speaker 2: Beginning because it can I just stop you there, I've

549
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Speaker 2: done a terrible thing. I've forgotten about the news. It's

550
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Speaker 2: about to start. We've got seconds. Can we can we

551
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Speaker 2: get you back after the news? Can you hold on

552
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Speaker 2: at Yeah, sorry about that.

553
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Speaker 3: You're a good man. Wendy Petree is ready to go

554
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Speaker 3: and she's given us the evils, so we better go

555
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Speaker 3: to Wendy Peatree with the.

556
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Speaker 2: Headlines for time management from us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sorry about that, Wendy. It is twenty five to two.

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Speaker 15: we're prepared for another major health overhaul. Healthcare will again

563
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Speaker 15: be decentralized from July, with local teams making calls on

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Speaker 15: staffing and recruitment, budgets and services. Twenty five million dollars

565
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Speaker 15: is also going into funding health over the winter peak

566
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Speaker 15: for seventy one extra beds in Waikato, christ Church, Wellington

567
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Speaker 15: and Middlemoor hospitals. The Association of Salaried Medical Specialists is

568
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Speaker 15: countries drug access. Westpac is raising it's fixed term one year,

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Speaker 2: Now back to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

579
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Speaker 2: Wendy. It is twenty two to two Josh, So apologies

580
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Speaker 2: for that that before. So when we jump to the news,

581
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Speaker 2: you were talking about the straw manning of evs.

582
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Like, honestly, I just think people just either have

583
00:25:46,373 --> 00:25:49,533
Speaker 12: a misconception around what you actually get from an EV

584
00:25:50,293 --> 00:25:53,493
Speaker 12: and that's sort of just been maybe historical when you

585
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Speaker 12: have a look at some of the entry evs that

586
00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:59,573
Speaker 12: came to the market. But the technology now is just

587
00:26:00,213 --> 00:26:02,733
Speaker 12: so much more advanced in terms of range that you get,

588
00:26:03,493 --> 00:26:06,853
Speaker 12: like and when you combine that with stuff like solar,

589
00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:10,533
Speaker 12: which is you know is a huge push by the

590
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Speaker 12: banks and stuff to get more solar and houses, that's

591
00:26:14,293 --> 00:26:18,373
Speaker 12: it just provides an ecosystem there as like very cost

592
00:26:18,413 --> 00:26:22,733
Speaker 12: a victim, but there are no real downsides. And yeah,

593
00:26:22,773 --> 00:26:25,773
Speaker 12: it's that's when I first got an e V, I

594
00:26:26,213 --> 00:26:29,253
Speaker 12: I was I didn't even research it. I was just like, oh, well,

595
00:26:29,293 --> 00:26:31,853
Speaker 12: it's going to be cheaper than diesel. Yeah, and then

596
00:26:32,253 --> 00:26:35,413
Speaker 12: you know, committed to it, and yeah, we bought our

597
00:26:35,413 --> 00:26:37,173
Speaker 12: sick like, so we bought our sick and one. We

598
00:26:37,253 --> 00:26:41,453
Speaker 12: have two now and I just never like ever go

599
00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:42,933
Speaker 12: back to having.

600
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Speaker 16: A petrol car.

601
00:26:43,573 --> 00:26:45,493
Speaker 2: So you said you were you said you were driving

602
00:26:45,733 --> 00:26:49,533
Speaker 2: a Reptor, Josh, So did you go to a ute EV?

603
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Speaker 12: No, I got a We wanted to get a seven

604
00:26:54,453 --> 00:26:58,133
Speaker 12: seed vehicle for the family, so we got a win

605
00:26:58,213 --> 00:27:01,293
Speaker 12: from a Reptor to a Tisler. And then when we

606
00:27:01,413 --> 00:27:04,733
Speaker 12: got our new car, like our new Tisler like last year,

607
00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:08,053
Speaker 12: we just wanted a small, smaller vehicle for my wife

608
00:27:08,573 --> 00:27:12,293
Speaker 12: and so yeah, just w got a Model three. So yeah,

609
00:27:12,573 --> 00:27:15,413
Speaker 12: it was just the Raptor was costing a lot in

610
00:27:15,853 --> 00:27:19,533
Speaker 12: like so much in maintenance. Tires were ridiculous, Yeah, and

611
00:27:19,853 --> 00:27:21,813
Speaker 12: just the diesel cost you know, yeah.

612
00:27:21,693 --> 00:27:24,493
Speaker 2: Because that's something that people sort of forget in their

613
00:27:24,533 --> 00:27:28,053
Speaker 2: calculations that the evs have so few moving parts that

614
00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:31,093
Speaker 2: servicing doesn't become a big thing. And that's a bit

615
00:27:31,093 --> 00:27:33,333
Speaker 2: of a problem with your with your PHVs, isn't it,

616
00:27:33,373 --> 00:27:35,693
Speaker 2: because you you've got both. You've got the combustion engine

617
00:27:35,693 --> 00:27:37,373
Speaker 2: and the EV, so you're going to have to get

618
00:27:37,453 --> 00:27:40,493
Speaker 2: the same servicing as you would with the combustion engine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: correct car. So with the Tesla so as you know,

620
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Speaker 2: you say that there's advancements coming. As the advancement coming

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Speaker 2: in the battery area.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so like the new Model three, there we got

623
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Speaker 12: was the increased range. So I think we get about

624
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Speaker 12: seven hundred k out of there just with the new batteries.

625
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:04,973
Speaker 12: But the like before we got the Model three, we

626
00:28:05,413 --> 00:28:08,413
Speaker 12: like I test drove the BYD and the Mercedes and

627
00:28:08,493 --> 00:28:13,773
Speaker 12: lots of the other pure evs, and the battery technology

628
00:28:13,853 --> 00:28:16,453
Speaker 12: is pretty much of a muchness and a straight EV car.

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Speaker 12: But I think the reason why we've got another Taylor,

630
00:28:19,693 --> 00:28:23,853
Speaker 12: for example, is just the like the interface, the software,

631
00:28:24,053 --> 00:28:26,133
Speaker 12: and it's sort of it's just made like I'm a

632
00:28:26,173 --> 00:28:28,973
Speaker 12: pretty lazy driver having to drive so much, and so

633
00:28:29,773 --> 00:28:32,933
Speaker 12: you know, taking away a lot of the hessle of

634
00:28:33,053 --> 00:28:36,413
Speaker 12: driving just with like automated driving on motorways and that

635
00:28:36,493 --> 00:28:39,533
Speaker 12: stuff was sort of and the continuity of I already

636
00:28:39,573 --> 00:28:42,853
Speaker 12: knew how to use it, but I think just ev

637
00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:45,853
Speaker 12: in general, there's just people have to have a more

638
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:49,813
Speaker 12: open mind, like just go try it. The advancements and software, sure,

639
00:28:49,973 --> 00:28:53,453
Speaker 12: but most of them will get updated software. Like in

640
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Speaker 12: my Model EX that I've had for five years now

641
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Speaker 12: done just over one hundred thousand K, I've spent twenty

642
00:29:00,893 --> 00:29:02,733
Speaker 12: five hundred dollars on tires.

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00:29:02,453 --> 00:29:05,533
Speaker 2: And that's it and has the battery holding up is

644
00:29:06,053 --> 00:29:07,973
Speaker 2: after that line there's.

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Speaker 12: Still ninety percent, So I'll still get five hundred and

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00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:15,893
Speaker 12: thirty K out of my Model X. So yeah, it's

647
00:29:16,413 --> 00:29:21,533
Speaker 12: like ridiculous. The degradation in battery is just not worth it.

648
00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:23,413
Speaker 12: Like when I worked it out on my Raptor, I

649
00:29:23,493 --> 00:29:25,453
Speaker 12: think over the space of the four years I had it,

650
00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:30,253
Speaker 12: I spent on tires, not including diesel on tires, I

651
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:34,093
Speaker 12: think I spent around twenty a twenty grand on maintenance.

652
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:38,093
Speaker 12: Now Raptor is notoriously unreliable when you're road driving, like

653
00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:41,733
Speaker 12: just with ripping through tires. But you know, the servicing

654
00:29:42,253 --> 00:29:44,173
Speaker 12: taking it into Ford to get done it was just

655
00:29:44,493 --> 00:29:45,533
Speaker 12: crazy expensive.

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00:29:45,973 --> 00:29:50,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, the servicing as there needs to be a whole

657
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Speaker 2: documentary done on how much they charge for servicing it.

658
00:29:53,093 --> 00:29:54,853
Speaker 2: The when you buy it from the dealership when you

659
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Speaker 2: take it to the dealership that you bought it from.

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Speaker 2: With the software upgrades Josh, Though some of these software

661
00:30:00,773 --> 00:30:03,453
Speaker 2: upgrades are subscriptions. Have you ever gone for any of those?

662
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Speaker 5: No?

663
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Speaker 12: Like, So when when I got my Model X, I

664
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Speaker 12: guess I wasn't to do earlier. Doctor, you pay for

665
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Speaker 12: the subscription upfront, and well you sorry. You pay for

666
00:30:13,693 --> 00:30:15,813
Speaker 12: the license upfront and then it just carries on with

667
00:30:15,933 --> 00:30:19,253
Speaker 12: the cars. So I had to get the hardware chef

668
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Speaker 12: upgraded in my one football self drive, like in my

669
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Speaker 12: Model X and that costs me I think about twelve

670
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Speaker 12: hundred dollars, But that was optional. I didn't actually have

671
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Speaker 12: to do that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so you do.

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Speaker 12: It depends on how you buy. Like you can get

674
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Speaker 12: subscription based services, but subscription is the way that you

675
00:30:39,013 --> 00:30:42,253
Speaker 12: buy everything now, you know, from your computers and everything

676
00:30:42,373 --> 00:30:43,213
Speaker 12: to even your car.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, with the resale value equation, and I think it

679
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Speaker 3: is legitimate. The resale on a lot of evsa's is

680
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Speaker 3: not great. But does that do you think that buys

681
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Speaker 3: into most people's consideration? For me, I always thought I

682
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Speaker 3: was going to run my vehicle into the ground effectively,

683
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Speaker 3: and it's going to hit the floor where I'll get

684
00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:03,853
Speaker 3: an okay price in the second hand market. But I

685
00:31:04,053 --> 00:31:06,173
Speaker 3: you know, you never make any money off a vehicle.

686
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:08,053
Speaker 3: So do you think most people just think I'm just

687
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Speaker 3: going to run it into the ground and I'm not

688
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Speaker 3: here to flog it on even if the resale is

689
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Speaker 3: a bit poor.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, like one hundred percent, because that's that's what I think.

691
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Speaker 12: Like I was going to every car of your own,

692
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Speaker 12: I think I'm just going to drive it until I

693
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Speaker 12: was dead. Like I had a Corolla when I was

694
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Speaker 12: really young, and I drove there to eight hundred thousand

695
00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:29,173
Speaker 12: K until it literally died. And so you know, my

696
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:31,973
Speaker 12: whole thing is I'll go until it can't go anymore.

697
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Speaker 12: And so between the period you've saved so much money

698
00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:40,213
Speaker 12: like that, it's not really It's like it's not really

699
00:31:40,253 --> 00:31:42,413
Speaker 12: a vector in my mind, And I think a lot

700
00:31:42,453 --> 00:31:44,413
Speaker 12: of people are like that. You know, you just drive

701
00:31:44,453 --> 00:31:46,653
Speaker 12: it until it doesn't go anymore. Like, yeah, why would

702
00:31:46,693 --> 00:31:49,133
Speaker 12: you upgrade you on better performance? Well, it's very.

703
00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:52,093
Speaker 3: Hard because you're trying to people so much.

704
00:31:52,293 --> 00:31:54,613
Speaker 12: Well, ev there is so much better performance than any

705
00:31:55,093 --> 00:31:56,493
Speaker 12: any standard Petroker.

706
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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of a lot of buying

707
00:31:58,413 --> 00:32:00,293
Speaker 2: of a new car is just so you can be

708
00:32:00,453 --> 00:32:02,293
Speaker 2: driving around and then new a car to show off

709
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:04,173
Speaker 2: when you're picking the kids up from school or something,

710
00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:04,653
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

711
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 12: Agree, But that's like, I think, different mindset. The people

713
00:32:09,573 --> 00:32:13,253
Speaker 12: that do it their way generally aren't the ones that

714
00:32:13,813 --> 00:32:17,133
Speaker 12: worried so much around the financial aspect of it, like myself,

715
00:32:17,813 --> 00:32:21,173
Speaker 12: like spend eighty grand on a car. But then you know,

716
00:32:21,613 --> 00:32:23,613
Speaker 12: there are teasels in the US that have done a

717
00:32:23,693 --> 00:32:27,773
Speaker 12: million miles, like the Texis, And you know, there's my idea,

718
00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:29,693
Speaker 12: if I can just keep it going until one day

719
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:31,053
Speaker 12: or go down and it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you hear about the environment, that's the way

721
00:32:35,493 --> 00:32:38,533
Speaker 2: to do it, right, to just drive the car until

722
00:32:38,573 --> 00:32:41,933
Speaker 2: it dies and then call a tow trait. Yes, getting

723
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:43,613
Speaker 2: the most miles out of it, rather than bring a

724
00:32:43,653 --> 00:32:44,733
Speaker 2: new one into the system.

725
00:32:45,773 --> 00:32:48,413
Speaker 12: They do recycling as well, like a big Warriors. Well,

726
00:32:48,613 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 12: when it dies, they're going to just chuckle. These lithium

727
00:32:51,173 --> 00:32:54,493
Speaker 12: batteries and landfill. That's not really true, like a lot

728
00:32:54,533 --> 00:32:57,173
Speaker 12: of them will go into sold the batteries for your houses.

729
00:32:57,253 --> 00:33:00,893
Speaker 12: So there are recycling programs where they reutilize a lot

730
00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:03,813
Speaker 12: of the components. But yeah, I think people just need

731
00:33:03,853 --> 00:33:06,533
Speaker 12: to have a more open mind. Whether it's like plug

732
00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:10,613
Speaker 12: in hybrid or you know, straight TV, people just have

733
00:33:10,733 --> 00:33:14,053
Speaker 12: to have an open mind and around what benefits instead

734
00:33:14,053 --> 00:33:16,213
Speaker 12: of just writing it off while they cramp or whatever.

735
00:33:16,293 --> 00:33:18,973
Speaker 12: It's just not really the case. You ask any tears

736
00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:22,053
Speaker 12: of the driver or any EV driver, I'd say ninety

737
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Speaker 12: five percent of them would enjoy driving that and most

738
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Speaker 12: of them won't go back to a normal petrol of

739
00:33:26,813 --> 00:33:27,493
Speaker 12: diesel vehicle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Josh, Thank you very much. I

741
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Speaker 3: wan one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you agree

742
00:33:31,413 --> 00:33:31,733
Speaker 3: with Josh?

743
00:33:31,813 --> 00:33:31,853
Speaker 5: You?

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00:33:31,933 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 2: Do you agree? One hundred and eighty ten eighty And yeah,

745
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Speaker 2: I've be interested to because my statement at the start

746
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Speaker 2: of the show was that the FEV the PHGV would

747
00:33:41,013 --> 00:33:43,613
Speaker 2: be the way to go, because you know, you're offset

748
00:33:43,733 --> 00:33:49,733
Speaker 2: for whatever geopolitical catastrophes or weather catastrophes affect our electricity

749
00:33:49,733 --> 00:33:51,933
Speaker 2: supply in New Zealand. Yeah, but I didn't think about

750
00:33:51,973 --> 00:33:55,693
Speaker 2: the old millions of moving parts in the combustion engine

751
00:33:55,693 --> 00:33:58,293
Speaker 2: and losing the ability just to not have to service

752
00:33:58,333 --> 00:33:58,773
Speaker 2: the bustard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you say though, I wan one hundred

754
00:34:00,493 --> 00:34:02,013
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call. It's

755
00:34:02,053 --> 00:34:02,693
Speaker 3: thirteen to two.

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00:34:03,613 --> 00:34:06,413
Speaker 1: The Fresh teak On took back Matt Heath and Taylor

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with Please go to codes every day at

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Speaker 1: SCD dot co dot zead have your say on eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty.

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00:34:14,652 --> 00:34:18,813
Speaker 2: Ten eighty News talks be ten to two Team gents legends,

761
00:34:19,253 --> 00:34:22,493
Speaker 2: How are ye? We have a Tesla? Long story short?

762
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:24,373
Speaker 2: It costs twenty bucks a week to do two on

763
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:28,133
Speaker 2: twenty kilimeres. That includes rucks and the free power nine

764
00:34:28,213 --> 00:34:31,853
Speaker 2: pm till midnight to charge the battery back up. Pretty

765
00:34:31,893 --> 00:34:34,013
Speaker 2: good twenty bucks for two hundred k. Chris is so

766
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:36,772
Speaker 2: mad if you're too lazy to plug a cheap secondhand leaf,

767
00:34:36,853 --> 00:34:38,733
Speaker 2: and that's fine you are wealthy enough to make the

768
00:34:38,853 --> 00:34:41,652
Speaker 2: choice for expensive gas instead. It was a smart choice

769
00:34:41,693 --> 00:34:43,653
Speaker 2: for our family to save money with an EV for

770
00:34:43,773 --> 00:34:46,693
Speaker 2: daily duties and pay the mortgage down faster. Remember the

771
00:34:46,733 --> 00:34:50,252
Speaker 2: EV subsidy help people like us in the secondhand vehicle market,

772
00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:53,733
Speaker 2: probably the majority of Kiwi car buyers. Yeah, I was

773
00:34:53,813 --> 00:34:55,893
Speaker 2: just joking about being too lazy to plug it in. Yeah,

774
00:34:55,893 --> 00:34:57,453
Speaker 2: because what did I say? I see as I say,

775
00:34:57,453 --> 00:34:59,692
Speaker 2: as I says I says, I already have to plug

776
00:34:59,773 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 2: my phone and that's not even true. I just put

777
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:04,813
Speaker 2: my phone on the charging pad. But I mean, is

778
00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:07,413
Speaker 2: there any sys This dous incredibly daisy, but there is

779
00:35:07,413 --> 00:35:11,853
Speaker 2: any system where you poll and it just manually connects itself.

780
00:35:12,053 --> 00:35:13,733
Speaker 3: It's like a fast charger for an iPhone that you

781
00:35:13,853 --> 00:35:15,893
Speaker 3: just drive into your garage and it's sitting under the

782
00:35:15,973 --> 00:35:16,333
Speaker 3: car and.

783
00:35:16,693 --> 00:35:19,933
Speaker 2: A robotic arm just comes out and goes or it

784
00:35:19,973 --> 00:35:21,893
Speaker 2: could be underneath I guess would make sense in it

785
00:35:22,213 --> 00:35:25,533
Speaker 2: because if they've got those you know, those bidets in

786
00:35:26,093 --> 00:35:29,653
Speaker 2: Japan which circle in on the area it needs to

787
00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:31,813
Speaker 2: fire the water at us, they've got sentences on and

788
00:35:32,293 --> 00:35:35,613
Speaker 2: Dow Advanced Technology. Yeah, surely they can invent a charger

789
00:35:35,693 --> 00:35:38,773
Speaker 2: that for your EV that just circles in and plugs itself.

790
00:35:38,573 --> 00:35:40,772
Speaker 3: In and you don't like anything drive on charges. Yeah,

791
00:35:41,613 --> 00:35:43,732
Speaker 3: keep those things coming through. A nine to two, nine

792
00:35:43,773 --> 00:35:46,053
Speaker 3: to two, A couple more before we get to get to.

793
00:35:46,013 --> 00:35:48,652
Speaker 2: A break customer and New Zealand's research confirms ninety six

794
00:35:48,693 --> 00:35:51,253
Speaker 2: percent of EV owners are satisfied and would stay with

795
00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:54,093
Speaker 2: an EV and or buy another EV. Need we say more?

796
00:35:54,493 --> 00:35:57,013
Speaker 2: You do not need to John Carpity Coast. But thank

797
00:35:57,053 --> 00:35:58,853
Speaker 2: you so much for your texts. That is compelling.

798
00:35:58,973 --> 00:36:00,693
Speaker 3: What do you agree with that research? If you're an

799
00:36:00,773 --> 00:36:05,013
Speaker 3: EV owner, are you ninety six percent satisfied with your purchase?

800
00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:07,573
Speaker 2: How much has Josh lost and depreciation as this the

801
00:36:07,613 --> 00:36:10,252
Speaker 2: probably twenty grand. But the thing is Chriss is driving

802
00:36:10,293 --> 00:36:11,212
Speaker 2: it until it gets towed away.

803
00:36:11,413 --> 00:36:12,453
Speaker 3: Yep, he's driving it.

804
00:36:12,493 --> 00:36:14,413
Speaker 2: Into the ground, so he doesn't care about the resale.

805
00:36:14,493 --> 00:36:15,653
Speaker 2: He's not worrying about resale.

806
00:36:15,733 --> 00:36:15,893
Speaker 11: Yeah.

807
00:36:15,933 --> 00:36:17,773
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighties a number to call

808
00:36:17,813 --> 00:36:19,533
Speaker 3: back very shortly. It is eight to two.

809
00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:24,173
Speaker 1: Matd Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

810
00:36:24,173 --> 00:36:26,733
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons news Talks B.

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Speaker 3: Five two two pettip your BYD owner.

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Speaker 4: Yes, say, I'm got a shark. I've had it since

814
00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:42,533
Speaker 4: I guess November last year. Love it, absolutely love it.

815
00:36:43,933 --> 00:36:48,693
Speaker 4: I also happened to go to a BYD presentation of

816
00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:52,453
Speaker 4: their latest models December last year, and one of the

817
00:36:52,493 --> 00:36:55,133
Speaker 4: things they talked about, which I'm surprised not many people

818
00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:58,893
Speaker 4: know about, is the technology that's coming down down the line,

819
00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:01,773
Speaker 4: which is the sodium batteries. I'm not sure if you

820
00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:02,533
Speaker 4: heard about those.

821
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:05,813
Speaker 2: No, please explain. Sort of maybe hurt a little bit,

822
00:37:05,853 --> 00:37:06,693
Speaker 2: but please explain.

823
00:37:07,813 --> 00:37:10,773
Speaker 4: They're saying that the density of the sodium batteries make

824
00:37:10,973 --> 00:37:16,333
Speaker 4: them way more usable. So they have been developing their

825
00:37:16,373 --> 00:37:19,853
Speaker 4: technology for some time and they reckon they're going to

826
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:24,173
Speaker 4: get out about twenty one hundred kilometers per charge, and

827
00:37:24,213 --> 00:37:28,933
Speaker 4: alongside that they've been developing fast charging to charge it

828
00:37:29,013 --> 00:37:29,813
Speaker 4: in five minutes.

829
00:37:30,133 --> 00:37:30,373
Speaker 9: Wow.

830
00:37:30,453 --> 00:37:33,933
Speaker 4: So this is what they're talking about at the presentation December.

831
00:37:34,493 --> 00:37:37,172
Speaker 4: I don't we'll see it this year or next year,

832
00:37:37,253 --> 00:37:40,893
Speaker 4: but they're talking it's it's in the pipeline and being

833
00:37:40,933 --> 00:37:43,373
Speaker 4: a sodium battery, they reckon it's far denser.

834
00:37:43,813 --> 00:37:47,213
Speaker 2: So what they're saying that you could drive basically Auckland

835
00:37:47,253 --> 00:37:49,733
Speaker 2: to the need and back on a four minute charge.

836
00:37:50,973 --> 00:37:51,853
Speaker 9: Five minute charge.

837
00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:56,653
Speaker 4: That's a presentation they put to us. I think, you know,

838
00:37:56,773 --> 00:37:59,373
Speaker 4: it's early days, but at the very least that's what

839
00:37:59,453 --> 00:38:00,293
Speaker 4: they're talking about.

840
00:38:00,493 --> 00:38:04,693
Speaker 2: So you know, Fruis and that would be a massive

841
00:38:04,773 --> 00:38:05,453
Speaker 2: game changer.

842
00:38:05,733 --> 00:38:09,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you very much much, and sorry we

843
00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:11,333
Speaker 3: wouldn't have more time with you because the news is

844
00:38:11,413 --> 00:38:14,173
Speaker 3: fast approaching. But we're going to keep this going. EV's

845
00:38:14,293 --> 00:38:17,493
Speaker 3: are you considering getting back into buying an EV? If

846
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:20,733
Speaker 3: you've already got one, you're loving it. Oh eight hundred

847
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,692
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number? Call nine two

848
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Speaker 3: nine Two's the text you two to the news because

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Speaker 3: it is Saint Patti Patty's Day, say right here, will

850
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:28,973
Speaker 3: be back soon.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

852
00:38:35,493 --> 00:38:38,573
Speaker 1: everything in between. The kids, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoon Squi Scoder News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Really good to have your company. And just a reminder,

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00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:52,573
Speaker 3: our mates at Skoda could be sending you and a

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Speaker 3: If you need some help with today's clue, keep listening

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Speaker 3: with a clue fore you later this hour.

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Speaker 2: And if you've spotted any Saint Pat's Day celebrations around

861
00:39:04,293 --> 00:39:06,212
Speaker 2: the town, then I'd love to hear from you. Someone

862
00:39:06,293 --> 00:39:07,813
Speaker 2: said that it's going off at Danny Dillon's.

863
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,613
Speaker 3: Yes, please report back.

864
00:39:09,813 --> 00:39:12,573
Speaker 2: Am I just in a different stage in my life,

865
00:39:12,693 --> 00:39:15,333
Speaker 2: but I feel like people used to go much harder,

866
00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:17,773
Speaker 2: much earlier, because I used to take a Saint Pat's

867
00:39:17,813 --> 00:39:21,293
Speaker 2: Day off and start the day with the guinness.

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00:39:21,413 --> 00:39:23,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mess of Well, it used to be

869
00:39:23,493 --> 00:39:25,773
Speaker 3: a massive day. You'd see people in green everywhere and

870
00:39:25,853 --> 00:39:28,653
Speaker 3: they'd be half sloshed before eleven. I went out two o'clock.

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00:39:28,813 --> 00:39:30,493
Speaker 2: I was in New York a few years ago and

872
00:39:30,653 --> 00:39:32,732
Speaker 2: went to the Saint Pat's Day parade in New York.

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00:39:32,853 --> 00:39:35,973
Speaker 2: Now that is a that is a big event. That

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Speaker 2: is that is so rammed, so many, so many tens

875
00:39:39,613 --> 00:39:41,533
Speaker 2: and tens and tens of thousands of people rammed. And

876
00:39:41,573 --> 00:39:43,652
Speaker 2: they all come from Boston as well for it. Yeah,

877
00:39:43,933 --> 00:39:48,333
Speaker 2: and everyone's going hard on all the Irish, bloody green,

878
00:39:48,453 --> 00:39:51,732
Speaker 2: this and that, and it's it's quite something.

879
00:39:51,813 --> 00:39:54,253
Speaker 3: They do it right in America, don't they with the parades.

880
00:39:54,413 --> 00:39:56,933
Speaker 3: I keep thinking of that movie The Fugitive with Harrison

881
00:39:56,973 --> 00:39:59,533
Speaker 3: Ford where he escapes through the Saint Petty's Day March.

882
00:39:59,573 --> 00:40:03,053
Speaker 3: I think that's in Chicago. But great movie and went

883
00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:03,573
Speaker 3: great day.

884
00:40:04,053 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 2: It was very cool being there because you know, I

885
00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:09,453
Speaker 2: got wedged up against police officer and it was a

886
00:40:09,493 --> 00:40:11,413
Speaker 2: police officer with the Boston accent, even though it was

887
00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:13,453
Speaker 2: in I don't know if they were shipping an extra

888
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:18,453
Speaker 2: police officers of Irish accent. But he was you know,

889
00:40:19,173 --> 00:40:20,813
Speaker 2: I was pushed up so hard against him. I had

890
00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:23,253
Speaker 2: my son on my shoulders that I was pushed up

891
00:40:23,253 --> 00:40:23,973
Speaker 2: against his gun.

892
00:40:24,653 --> 00:40:27,212
Speaker 3: I So this is pretty well, that's interesting. Yeah, right

893
00:40:27,293 --> 00:40:30,133
Speaker 3: back to our discussion about EV. So this was after

894
00:40:30,293 --> 00:40:33,013
Speaker 3: by D general manager. He was on with Mike this

895
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:36,493
Speaker 3: morning and he said the number of electric and hybrid

896
00:40:36,573 --> 00:40:41,533
Speaker 3: BYD's cars bought last Saturday quadrupled their usual sale.

897
00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:42,853
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what he had to say.

898
00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:45,733
Speaker 7: Typically on Saturday we'd probably do between twenty and twenty five.

899
00:40:45,613 --> 00:40:48,773
Speaker 8: Across the country, So on serious increase.

900
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:51,293
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and our Australian friends are doing even better. They

901
00:40:51,373 --> 00:40:53,173
Speaker 7: sold nine hundred and two on Saturday.

902
00:40:53,573 --> 00:40:55,493
Speaker 8: Hybrids or BEVs, well both.

903
00:40:55,573 --> 00:40:58,693
Speaker 7: Actually, we're quite fortunate that our hybrids are super hybrids,

904
00:40:58,693 --> 00:41:00,213
Speaker 7: so you can have beasts of both worlds.

905
00:41:00,853 --> 00:41:03,213
Speaker 3: So if you missed that, he mentioned they sold eighty

906
00:41:03,413 --> 00:41:06,333
Speaker 3: last weekend versus the usual twenty to twenty five. So

907
00:41:06,853 --> 00:41:09,493
Speaker 3: are you in the market for a EV if you're

908
00:41:09,493 --> 00:41:11,373
Speaker 3: looking for a new car with the price of fuel

909
00:41:11,413 --> 00:41:12,213
Speaker 3: climbing higher.

910
00:41:12,933 --> 00:41:14,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when he says BEV, he's not talking about

911
00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:20,172
Speaker 2: your childhood best friend BEEV feathers. Bev's your childhood best friends,

912
00:41:20,253 --> 00:41:22,973
Speaker 2: Mum BEV who smoked the BNH special fields. It's not

913
00:41:22,973 --> 00:41:24,373
Speaker 2: what he's talking about. He's talking about battery.

914
00:41:24,413 --> 00:41:24,573
Speaker 12: EV.

915
00:41:24,653 --> 00:41:25,933
Speaker 2: It's a nice beef to have in your life.

916
00:41:26,013 --> 00:41:28,133
Speaker 3: But yeah, EV, so oh eight one hundred and eighty

917
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:31,053
Speaker 3: ten eighty if you've recently purchased one or you're looking

918
00:41:31,133 --> 00:41:33,013
Speaker 3: to keen to hear your story.

919
00:41:33,173 --> 00:41:36,053
Speaker 2: So we're talking about sodium ion batteries before and the

920
00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:38,213
Speaker 2: sticks is just a quick note on sodium ion batteries.

921
00:41:38,253 --> 00:41:41,493
Speaker 2: While they're real and promising. They don't have super fast

922
00:41:41,773 --> 00:41:44,813
Speaker 2: five minute charging or one thousand kilometer range right now.

923
00:41:45,173 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 2: They're more likely to be a power, affordable and shorter

924
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:50,413
Speaker 2: range EV's and should start appealing around twenty twenty six.

925
00:41:50,413 --> 00:41:54,133
Speaker 2: Appearing around twenty twenty six. They will compliment lithium, not

926
00:41:54,213 --> 00:41:57,212
Speaker 2: replace it. Do a quick research and you'll see the info.

927
00:41:57,333 --> 00:42:00,053
Speaker 2: Great progress and being rolled out in China.

928
00:42:00,173 --> 00:42:02,653
Speaker 3: Though interesting. I mean, just on the lithium question, that

929
00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:04,773
Speaker 3: is always one of the concerns. There's only so much

930
00:42:04,893 --> 00:42:07,373
Speaker 3: lithium and you've got to dig it out of the ground.

931
00:42:07,453 --> 00:42:09,893
Speaker 3: But if it is sody based, a lot more sodium

932
00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:11,773
Speaker 3: to go around than lithium. So that is promising.

933
00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:14,853
Speaker 2: Oh Dowd's and Elliceley has a big set up. People

934
00:42:14,933 --> 00:42:16,773
Speaker 2: were drinking there at ten am.

935
00:42:16,933 --> 00:42:19,453
Speaker 3: Cheers that man, Oh Dowd.

936
00:42:19,613 --> 00:42:22,053
Speaker 2: So I just I guess maybe when I drive into work,

937
00:42:22,093 --> 00:42:24,453
Speaker 2: I didn't see you used to see a lot mustn't

938
00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 2: have been on my route. Yeah, people in green celebrating

939
00:42:27,333 --> 00:42:29,773
Speaker 2: Saint Pat's Day. This Texas says, love you show. But

940
00:42:29,853 --> 00:42:31,732
Speaker 2: come on, Matt, too lazy to plug in an EV?

941
00:42:31,933 --> 00:42:34,213
Speaker 2: It takes seconds. You're the same guy who said he

942
00:42:34,333 --> 00:42:36,813
Speaker 2: did bathroom floors are for the week, who ran a

943
00:42:36,853 --> 00:42:39,373
Speaker 2: marathon last year and told us that walking as an exercise.

944
00:42:39,773 --> 00:42:42,133
Speaker 2: The same guy who said sleeping in past five v

945
00:42:42,253 --> 00:42:44,853
Speaker 2: and was lazy. Same guy who sleeps outside on the

946
00:42:44,933 --> 00:42:46,973
Speaker 2: lawn once for a week once a year because he

947
00:42:47,053 --> 00:42:50,453
Speaker 2: says we're addicted to luxury and our ancestors slept outside.

948
00:42:51,013 --> 00:42:53,373
Speaker 2: Shut up and get an EV and plug it in

949
00:42:53,453 --> 00:42:58,333
Speaker 2: your cave. Man. Bless Katie? Who's Katie? What the text do?

950
00:42:58,493 --> 00:43:01,893
Speaker 3: Oh right? Oh bless from Katie? Blessed said bless Katie?

951
00:43:02,973 --> 00:43:05,652
Speaker 3: Who's this Katie woman? So Katie's got your number?

952
00:43:05,693 --> 00:43:08,173
Speaker 2: Man, that's got shut up? Get an EV, plug it in?

953
00:43:08,853 --> 00:43:12,293
Speaker 2: Do you plug it in your cave? You cave man

954
00:43:12,733 --> 00:43:13,453
Speaker 2: and bliss Kadie.

955
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:15,973
Speaker 3: Oh Katie, you're a great New Zealander. So that's a

956
00:43:16,013 --> 00:43:17,853
Speaker 3: great text. She's got your number, man.

957
00:43:17,853 --> 00:43:22,253
Speaker 2: That's true, But I wasn't. I'm getting so much pushback

958
00:43:22,293 --> 00:43:23,933
Speaker 2: for saying I was too lazy to plug in the

959
00:43:24,613 --> 00:43:27,173
Speaker 2: EV and that I wanted them to invent an electrical

960
00:43:27,373 --> 00:43:29,013
Speaker 2: you know, like a robotic one that just plugs ada

961
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:31,613
Speaker 2: you drive over top of that. But apparently that someone

962
00:43:31,733 --> 00:43:35,013
Speaker 2: see chicksa and saying that that they have those in China. Yeah,

963
00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:36,933
Speaker 2: the Chinese love them. But I just sniff out your

964
00:43:37,653 --> 00:43:41,013
Speaker 2: plug and then weave out of the wall like a snake. Yeah,

965
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:43,773
Speaker 2: and plug it. Yeah sounds good. It doesn't sound terrifying

966
00:43:43,813 --> 00:43:45,613
Speaker 2: at all. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

967
00:43:45,733 --> 00:43:49,573
Speaker 2: is a number to call. Get a Anthony good now, mate,

968
00:43:49,573 --> 00:43:50,653
Speaker 2: you're got a hybrid?

969
00:43:50,773 --> 00:43:51,133
Speaker 16: Is that right?

970
00:43:52,173 --> 00:43:52,733
Speaker 12: That's correct?

971
00:43:52,813 --> 00:43:53,013
Speaker 9: Yeah?

972
00:43:53,093 --> 00:43:57,613
Speaker 17: Yeah, just love it, Just love it. It's a different hybrid.

973
00:43:57,693 --> 00:44:02,973
Speaker 17: It's only goes radiance of fifty k's. But I live

974
00:44:03,013 --> 00:44:08,652
Speaker 17: in Gisbone and Gisbone's more and yeah, I don't need

975
00:44:08,853 --> 00:44:11,133
Speaker 17: need to put her on hybrid only when I go

976
00:44:11,213 --> 00:44:11,933
Speaker 17: on long trips.

977
00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:14,373
Speaker 3: So that's that's not a plug in, Anthony, that's a

978
00:44:14,533 --> 00:44:16,213
Speaker 3: that's a continuous hybrid situation.

979
00:44:17,173 --> 00:44:18,573
Speaker 5: No, so that's a plug in.

980
00:44:18,693 --> 00:44:20,013
Speaker 2: Oh it is a plug into.

981
00:44:20,373 --> 00:44:21,293
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is a plug in.

982
00:44:21,653 --> 00:44:22,933
Speaker 17: Think it's a three point plug.

983
00:44:24,133 --> 00:44:24,933
Speaker 9: And it's so easy.

984
00:44:26,093 --> 00:44:29,893
Speaker 17: I have got solar as well, so you know, charges

985
00:44:30,253 --> 00:44:34,853
Speaker 17: doesn't cost me anything. The reason everything's about timing though,

986
00:44:35,053 --> 00:44:38,653
Speaker 17: you know it's this old runout and grab one, you know,

987
00:44:38,933 --> 00:44:43,453
Speaker 17: but I did. This guy actually teaboned me and wrote

988
00:44:43,493 --> 00:44:44,172
Speaker 17: my car off.

989
00:44:45,813 --> 00:44:50,773
Speaker 9: And that was about about a year ago or so.

990
00:44:51,613 --> 00:44:57,253
Speaker 17: And at that time, you know, they were going their

991
00:44:57,333 --> 00:45:00,053
Speaker 17: car sales was going down and I got it for

992
00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 17: fifty thousand, brand new out of the box.

993
00:45:02,973 --> 00:45:07,973
Speaker 2: So nice. Yeah, Yeah, it was quite stoked it's coming

994
00:45:08,013 --> 00:45:10,253
Speaker 2: out on. So what kind of car is it, Anthony.

995
00:45:11,573 --> 00:45:16,093
Speaker 17: It's a Skoda Octavia, nice scoter, good people.

996
00:45:16,173 --> 00:45:19,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, great vehicles. We've got to sco to clue coming up,

997
00:45:19,053 --> 00:45:21,173
Speaker 2: don't we. Yeah, you stay tuned for that, Anthony.

998
00:45:21,293 --> 00:45:21,453
Speaker 14: Yeah.

999
00:45:21,493 --> 00:45:24,212
Speaker 2: And your chance to trip for two to Tour de France.

1000
00:45:24,253 --> 00:45:25,652
Speaker 2: Any chance to jump on one of our.

1001
00:45:26,293 --> 00:45:29,453
Speaker 3: Up a great prize. Yeah, And it seems like I

1002
00:45:29,493 --> 00:45:31,973
Speaker 3: mean that's what I've got on my plug in is

1003
00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:34,013
Speaker 3: fifty K and that's kind of all I need. But

1004
00:45:34,413 --> 00:45:36,213
Speaker 3: you look at some of that new technology, Antony, and

1005
00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:38,573
Speaker 3: it's pretty impressive, you know, with the plugins and how

1006
00:45:38,693 --> 00:45:42,413
Speaker 3: much you can get out of the battery almost almost

1007
00:45:42,613 --> 00:45:43,573
Speaker 3: makes me want to upgrade.

1008
00:45:44,573 --> 00:45:44,772
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1009
00:45:45,053 --> 00:45:52,133
Speaker 17: Well, see, Lisban's like Lisbon's isolated, and you know, you've

1010
00:45:52,173 --> 00:45:57,613
Speaker 17: got closest you know, basics like Carronger or Napier, you know,

1011
00:45:57,893 --> 00:46:04,373
Speaker 17: to be honest, but you know what people don't really

1012
00:46:04,533 --> 00:46:07,213
Speaker 17: know is you can actually get a loan, you know,

1013
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:10,733
Speaker 17: like a one percent off the banks because it's electric

1014
00:46:11,173 --> 00:46:16,973
Speaker 17: and it's so that's that's better than going yeah, you

1015
00:46:17,053 --> 00:46:20,173
Speaker 17: know for the car vehicles, which are quite expensive.

1016
00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:20,973
Speaker 9: If you have to borrow the money.

1017
00:46:21,053 --> 00:46:23,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, tacking it up on regular finance, which is you know,

1018
00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:26,373
Speaker 3: sort of twelve to twenty percent anywhere in that region,

1019
00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:28,333
Speaker 3: which one percent, as you say, is a lot better.

1020
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:30,293
Speaker 3: Do you get your solar on that loan as well, Anthony?

1021
00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:32,133
Speaker 17: Yes, yes I.

1022
00:46:32,173 --> 00:46:33,373
Speaker 5: Did, Yeah I did.

1023
00:46:34,533 --> 00:46:37,172
Speaker 17: And I'm just and I've got a battery as well.

1024
00:46:39,173 --> 00:46:45,013
Speaker 17: Where I live, we're on septic so gisbone. We often

1025
00:46:45,573 --> 00:46:47,813
Speaker 17: yet power cuts and all the rest of it and

1026
00:46:47,853 --> 00:46:51,013
Speaker 17: it's really frustrating. So that's the reason why I got

1027
00:46:51,053 --> 00:46:51,893
Speaker 17: a battery as well.

1028
00:46:52,173 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, good on your anthity. It sounds like

1029
00:46:55,093 --> 00:46:57,133
Speaker 3: you're very sort of with your sco to Octavia and

1030
00:46:57,213 --> 00:46:57,973
Speaker 3: your solo at home.

1031
00:46:58,053 --> 00:47:00,213
Speaker 2: Well played. I one hundred and eighty ten eighties and

1032
00:47:00,253 --> 00:47:02,373
Speaker 2: number to call on just a sides topic here on

1033
00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:04,732
Speaker 2: Saint Pat's Day. We are getting a lot of texts

1034
00:47:04,773 --> 00:47:07,253
Speaker 2: and it does sound like people are celebrating Saint Pat's

1035
00:47:07,293 --> 00:47:08,853
Speaker 2: Day up and down the country. It is kick it

1036
00:47:08,893 --> 00:47:10,493
Speaker 2: off in some parts. I just failed to see any

1037
00:47:10,493 --> 00:47:12,453
Speaker 2: of them, right ye on my drive this morning, so

1038
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:15,653
Speaker 2: that's on me. Now that's my sample era of the

1039
00:47:15,733 --> 00:47:17,573
Speaker 2: way I drove to work. I didn't drive past enough

1040
00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:20,732
Speaker 2: Irish Pats obviously. Shane my Son has just started at

1041
00:47:21,053 --> 00:47:23,093
Speaker 2: the University of Canterbury this year. He informed us he

1042
00:47:23,213 --> 00:47:27,333
Speaker 2: was going to consume two dozen beers today to celebrate

1043
00:47:27,373 --> 00:47:31,573
Speaker 2: Saint Bat's Day starting this morning. Good on them. That's

1044
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:32,653
Speaker 2: two dozen.

1045
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:34,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how be hard to say I'm proud of

1046
00:47:34,973 --> 00:47:35,453
Speaker 3: my heritage.

1047
00:47:35,453 --> 00:47:37,773
Speaker 2: It would be hard to get two dozen guinness down.

1048
00:47:37,853 --> 00:47:38,053
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1049
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:41,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck to that boy. The sticks to said

1050
00:47:41,253 --> 00:47:44,173
Speaker 2: Jesus boys. These people propping up EV's now because the

1051
00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:46,773
Speaker 2: fuels through the roof piffed. I would never get into

1052
00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:50,373
Speaker 2: one of those fire balls. Nope, I'd rather walk. These

1053
00:47:50,453 --> 00:47:52,933
Speaker 2: callers are kidding themselves, haha. No, thanks giving me a

1054
00:47:53,013 --> 00:47:54,413
Speaker 2: V eight any day, lads.

1055
00:47:54,653 --> 00:47:57,373
Speaker 3: Keep those teas coming through on nine to nine to two,

1056
00:47:58,013 --> 00:48:01,053
Speaker 3: but beg very shortly. It is sixteen past two and

1057
00:48:01,173 --> 00:48:03,133
Speaker 3: taking your calls on our one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1058
00:48:03,653 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

1059
00:48:08,173 --> 00:48:12,252
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks.

1060
00:48:14,373 --> 00:48:16,853
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Sure it is nineteen past too, so

1061
00:48:16,893 --> 00:48:20,013
Speaker 3: we're talking about electric vehicles. This was after byd general

1062
00:48:20,093 --> 00:48:23,453
Speaker 3: manager said they had a massive uptick last weekend, arguably

1063
00:48:23,573 --> 00:48:25,893
Speaker 3: on the back of the climbing fuel prices. But he

1064
00:48:25,973 --> 00:48:29,493
Speaker 3: did mention the mike this morning that many people who

1065
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:31,732
Speaker 3: came in we're on the fence anyway, and the fuel

1066
00:48:31,773 --> 00:48:34,212
Speaker 3: prices just tipped them over to purchase a new EV.

1067
00:48:34,493 --> 00:48:37,013
Speaker 3: So is that you o eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1068
00:48:37,133 --> 00:48:40,973
Speaker 3: Have we fallen back in love with electric vehicles? So

1069
00:48:41,133 --> 00:48:44,853
Speaker 3: adrianne yes, ad from Christ Yes, nice.

1070
00:48:44,733 --> 00:48:45,333
Speaker 2: To chat with you.

1071
00:48:45,453 --> 00:48:47,293
Speaker 3: So you've just bought a hybrid today.

1072
00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:49,493
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just went out and bought a forward to

1073
00:48:49,573 --> 00:48:52,333
Speaker 13: skate the top one today and just sold a near

1074
00:48:52,413 --> 00:48:54,933
Speaker 13: New Foreverest. I'm very happy with it.

1075
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:56,172
Speaker 5: But yeah, we were.

1076
00:48:56,173 --> 00:48:59,293
Speaker 13: Tipped, probably pushed a bit. We're thinking maybe two more

1077
00:48:59,373 --> 00:49:01,733
Speaker 13: years go to a hybrid. But I took it for

1078
00:49:01,853 --> 00:49:04,772
Speaker 13: test run and I wouldn't buy a plug in because

1079
00:49:04,773 --> 00:49:08,172
Speaker 13: I want, you know, driving independence, and I'd a lot

1080
00:49:08,173 --> 00:49:10,333
Speaker 13: of around town work during the week, and then every

1081
00:49:10,373 --> 00:49:12,493
Speaker 13: couple of months we head south to Central Otago. So

1082
00:49:12,533 --> 00:49:14,013
Speaker 13: it's going to be able to do open road on

1083
00:49:14,093 --> 00:49:16,653
Speaker 13: the petrol as well, so it gives.

1084
00:49:16,573 --> 00:49:18,172
Speaker 2: Us options really nice to drive.

1085
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:22,293
Speaker 13: It's okay, it's not my forever car. I'm not madly

1086
00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:25,213
Speaker 13: in love, but it gets from A to B so

1087
00:49:25,413 --> 00:49:29,613
Speaker 13: it will serve the purpose, I hope. But I've researched

1088
00:49:29,653 --> 00:49:31,893
Speaker 13: all these walls and if it keeps going, it's going

1089
00:49:31,973 --> 00:49:34,493
Speaker 13: to go up it We'll get short and at least

1090
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:36,653
Speaker 13: with the battery we can still do our basic tasks

1091
00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:38,533
Speaker 13: each day rather than walking or boaking.

1092
00:49:38,853 --> 00:49:42,693
Speaker 3: Right, So the climbing fuel prices was a big consideration, was.

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00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:46,253
Speaker 13: It potentially Yes, and having a little bit of independence

1094
00:49:46,293 --> 00:49:48,893
Speaker 13: with the battery, but you've got to really drive it

1095
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:52,093
Speaker 13: very tamely to keep it within battery mode around town.

1096
00:49:52,573 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 13: If you over accelerate or you a little bit aggressive,

1097
00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:58,373
Speaker 13: it goes into petrol quite quickly because you can have

1098
00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:00,493
Speaker 13: an app. You got the thing on the console and

1099
00:50:00,573 --> 00:50:03,093
Speaker 13: it shows you when you're in battery or whether you've

1100
00:50:03,293 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 13: kicked into the engine. So it's a slightly different style

1101
00:50:06,213 --> 00:50:09,253
Speaker 13: of driving. I found, not that I'm aggressive, but I

1102
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:11,253
Speaker 13: ken can put my foot down the show you know

1103
00:50:11,933 --> 00:50:14,573
Speaker 13: where I am on the on the road. But it'll

1104
00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:18,453
Speaker 13: be interesting. But I think it's half the cost of

1105
00:50:18,533 --> 00:50:21,733
Speaker 13: running a diesel and there's no road user and also

1106
00:50:23,173 --> 00:50:25,813
Speaker 13: it's about five Yeah, it's just half the cost of

1107
00:50:25,893 --> 00:50:29,453
Speaker 13: running the diesel. So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah,

1108
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:31,533
Speaker 13: we'll go to we'll manage it and observe it for

1109
00:50:31,573 --> 00:50:33,373
Speaker 13: the next two years and see and then we might

1110
00:50:33,453 --> 00:50:37,133
Speaker 13: go into another one or not. But I'll do my bit.

1111
00:50:37,373 --> 00:50:39,813
Speaker 13: And yeah, and I've got I've got a knee bike

1112
00:50:39,853 --> 00:50:41,652
Speaker 13: as well, and I'm about to go into my third

1113
00:50:41,693 --> 00:50:43,933
Speaker 13: e bike. So I like them, and they've got plenty

1114
00:50:43,973 --> 00:50:45,453
Speaker 13: of power and everything. You know, when you put your

1115
00:50:45,453 --> 00:50:46,733
Speaker 13: foot down they do take off.

1116
00:50:48,413 --> 00:50:50,013
Speaker 2: When you pass people start calling you.

1117
00:50:52,493 --> 00:50:52,533
Speaker 5: That.

1118
00:50:52,893 --> 00:50:57,973
Speaker 13: No, they call me the beast, the beast. Will I

1119
00:50:58,053 --> 00:50:59,773
Speaker 13: call all my cars of the beast, but I might

1120
00:50:59,853 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 13: call this one baby beast, baby beast, but is the beast?

1121
00:51:05,453 --> 00:51:05,652
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1122
00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:10,893
Speaker 13: And my number plates mad cow, So go figure you're great.

1123
00:51:11,693 --> 00:51:13,973
Speaker 3: If you see me cow down driving and Christ shoots

1124
00:51:14,133 --> 00:51:16,013
Speaker 3: just no give hind the will.

1125
00:51:15,973 --> 00:51:17,773
Speaker 2: Give her a thumbs up. Thank you for your call. Hey,

1126
00:51:17,853 --> 00:51:21,413
Speaker 2: I just drove to among A, Kino and back up

1127
00:51:21,493 --> 00:51:25,093
Speaker 2: to Kaka, South Auckland today and a petrol powered raptor

1128
00:51:25,493 --> 00:51:27,533
Speaker 2: filled up one hundred and fifty on my way down

1129
00:51:27,653 --> 00:51:29,893
Speaker 2: and just filled up one hundred now on my way

1130
00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:32,333
Speaker 2: up two hundred and fifty. Maybe EV is the way

1131
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:33,173
Speaker 2: to go.

1132
00:51:33,773 --> 00:51:36,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those ticks coming through on nine two ninety two.

1133
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:38,813
Speaker 2: So, guys, I guess evy owners don't care about the

1134
00:51:38,893 --> 00:51:41,172
Speaker 2: massive footprint it takes to make the batteries, and they

1135
00:51:41,253 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 2: don't care what happens to them when they are no

1136
00:51:43,493 --> 00:51:45,853
Speaker 2: longer viable. Imagine how many there will be in a

1137
00:51:45,933 --> 00:51:48,733
Speaker 2: few years time until we can somehow recycle these. I

1138
00:51:48,813 --> 00:51:51,853
Speaker 2: will never buy an EV waiting for hydrogen that's from jail.

1139
00:51:52,453 --> 00:51:55,853
Speaker 2: There is as Josh was saying, I believe was it

1140
00:51:55,933 --> 00:51:58,013
Speaker 2: Josh was running the two EV's Yep, that was Josh.

1141
00:51:58,133 --> 00:52:03,053
Speaker 2: He was saying that there is there is recycling, there's

1142
00:52:03,373 --> 00:52:06,573
Speaker 2: recycling facilities at the end of their life. But I

1143
00:52:06,613 --> 00:52:09,093
Speaker 2: think you know anyone that drives a car like So

1144
00:52:09,453 --> 00:52:12,733
Speaker 2: the argument is, if if you've got an older combustion engine,

1145
00:52:13,013 --> 00:52:15,333
Speaker 2: it's better for the environment, if that's what you care about,

1146
00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:18,533
Speaker 2: to drive that to the end of its life, yes,

1147
00:52:18,773 --> 00:52:20,853
Speaker 2: rather than having a whole new EV and all the

1148
00:52:20,893 --> 00:52:25,053
Speaker 2: batteries you know, lithium battery situation manufactured and brought into

1149
00:52:25,053 --> 00:52:28,293
Speaker 2: the country right, correct, So if you see someone driving

1150
00:52:28,333 --> 00:52:31,093
Speaker 2: around in an old Kingswood, you just give them a

1151
00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:33,013
Speaker 2: thumbs up and say you're doing your bit for the environment.

1152
00:52:33,053 --> 00:52:35,733
Speaker 3: Mate, yep, good to go and run it into the grounds.

1153
00:52:35,853 --> 00:52:37,853
Speaker 2: You keep going, drive it till it gets towed away,

1154
00:52:38,093 --> 00:52:40,733
Speaker 2: and then you're you're as you're as green as clone

1155
00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:41,333
Speaker 2: you beg.

1156
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:42,213
Speaker 3: Old greenie are right?

1157
00:52:42,293 --> 00:52:42,373
Speaker 5: Oh?

1158
00:52:42,413 --> 00:52:43,853
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1159
00:52:43,893 --> 00:52:47,213
Speaker 3: If you've recently purchased an electric vehicle, why and if

1160
00:52:47,253 --> 00:52:49,253
Speaker 3: you're in the market right now, do the fuel prices

1161
00:52:49,453 --> 00:52:53,173
Speaker 3: make you reconsider getting on the EV bandwagon? Keen on

1162
00:52:53,333 --> 00:52:56,212
Speaker 3: your stories. It is twenty three past two. Big for you, surely.

1163
00:53:00,173 --> 00:53:03,813
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1164
00:53:03,893 --> 00:53:05,773
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1165
00:53:06,173 --> 00:53:10,453
Speaker 3: Afternoon, Lawrence, Good afternoon, Nice to chat. So you want

1166
00:53:10,493 --> 00:53:12,253
Speaker 3: to talk about the advantages of evs.

1167
00:53:13,293 --> 00:53:16,733
Speaker 19: Yeah, Well, I brought a bit flushy Outlander and it

1168
00:53:16,853 --> 00:53:19,933
Speaker 19: was four years ago. So right the first week when

1169
00:53:20,013 --> 00:53:22,893
Speaker 19: Russia invaded Ukraine, I looked at New Zealand fuel situation.

1170
00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:24,413
Speaker 19: I thought this could get a bit dodgy.

1171
00:53:25,173 --> 00:53:25,773
Speaker 7: One of those.

1172
00:53:25,693 --> 00:53:29,213
Speaker 19: Superpowers decided that that those tankers that were coming to

1173
00:53:29,253 --> 00:53:32,253
Speaker 19: New Zealand with petrol and diesel, we want that for

1174
00:53:32,333 --> 00:53:35,053
Speaker 19: our war efforts. So I I did the numbers on

1175
00:53:35,173 --> 00:53:37,213
Speaker 19: it for work and at the time there were no

1176
00:53:37,373 --> 00:53:39,493
Speaker 19: road users. So I ended up with a PHGV and

1177
00:53:40,693 --> 00:53:44,213
Speaker 19: it was about fifteen grand more than the standard Outlander.

1178
00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:46,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's paid for.

1179
00:53:46,093 --> 00:53:48,293
Speaker 7: Itself in the first three years. I think it was

1180
00:53:49,533 --> 00:53:50,333
Speaker 7: got that money back.

1181
00:53:50,373 --> 00:53:51,893
Speaker 19: But I towed the boat with it and we got

1182
00:53:51,973 --> 00:53:55,213
Speaker 19: caught at Kafire a couple of weeks ago when Oakchrahonga

1183
00:53:55,253 --> 00:53:58,533
Speaker 19: had that for grainstorm and the whole township lost power.

1184
00:53:58,573 --> 00:54:00,373
Speaker 12: For I think was about twenty two hours in the end,

1185
00:54:01,053 --> 00:54:01,813
Speaker 12: but we were able to.

1186
00:54:01,933 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 19: Run the extension caught out of the back of the

1187
00:54:03,613 --> 00:54:05,573
Speaker 19: Outlander and run the three fridges which were full of

1188
00:54:05,653 --> 00:54:08,293
Speaker 19: sooner for three or four hours, and once they got back,

1189
00:54:08,333 --> 00:54:10,773
Speaker 19: downder temperature around the carn exxtoor and frunk the neighbors

1190
00:54:10,813 --> 00:54:11,933
Speaker 19: fridge and freezers.

1191
00:54:11,573 --> 00:54:14,493
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's pretty cool, Pretty cool, Lawrence.

1192
00:54:15,333 --> 00:54:18,573
Speaker 19: All of these pH g vs and evs have onboard

1193
00:54:18,853 --> 00:54:22,933
Speaker 19: inverts now, and when I do offered power systems for work,

1194
00:54:23,213 --> 00:54:26,573
Speaker 19: and we're starting to see clients who are doing their

1195
00:54:26,573 --> 00:54:29,253
Speaker 19: offord power system and not using a generator as back up.

1196
00:54:29,293 --> 00:54:31,893
Speaker 19: They're buying an EV or a plug in librid and

1197
00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:36,533
Speaker 19: using that to charge the house when when the when the.

1198
00:54:36,533 --> 00:54:38,693
Speaker 3: Weather is not playing its par it's good for an

1199
00:54:38,733 --> 00:54:41,133
Speaker 3: emergency a I mean, as you say, the the Outlander,

1200
00:54:41,173 --> 00:54:42,933
Speaker 3: I think we're one of the first first to have

1201
00:54:43,053 --> 00:54:45,013
Speaker 3: that ability in the boot that you could just plug

1202
00:54:45,093 --> 00:54:47,693
Speaker 3: in your fridge or whatever you needed to in an emergency.

1203
00:54:48,133 --> 00:54:49,692
Speaker 3: But you must have been one of the you must

1204
00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:52,453
Speaker 3: have been pretty early to get one of those new Outlanders,

1205
00:54:52,453 --> 00:54:54,733
Speaker 3: because that's what we originally wanted. But when we went

1206
00:54:54,773 --> 00:54:56,293
Speaker 3: to purchase that. They say, we can't get them in

1207
00:54:56,333 --> 00:54:59,613
Speaker 3: the country fast enough. There was a month weight on them.

1208
00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 19: Yeah, there was shortly after I got one of the

1209
00:55:02,413 --> 00:55:05,293
Speaker 19: ones that was already in the country, and it was

1210
00:55:05,573 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 19: during literally the first week when Russia invaded you.

1211
00:55:09,773 --> 00:55:11,213
Speaker 9: And you know, that's quite interesting.

1212
00:55:11,293 --> 00:55:13,093
Speaker 19: Now we've kind of got the same scenario of some

1213
00:55:13,333 --> 00:55:15,213
Speaker 19: clown and fading someone else and causing a.

1214
00:55:15,253 --> 00:55:17,173
Speaker 12: Petrol shortage or diesel shorters worldwide.

1215
00:55:17,493 --> 00:55:17,692
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1216
00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:21,413
Speaker 19: You know, New Zealand's a very small country, small fish

1217
00:55:21,453 --> 00:55:23,973
Speaker 19: in a big pond. And now I heard a politician

1218
00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:26,053
Speaker 19: the other day, so we're fine with petrol and diesel.

1219
00:55:26,053 --> 00:55:27,493
Speaker 19: We've got ninety days reserved.

1220
00:55:27,533 --> 00:55:28,853
Speaker 9: Well that's not on shore.

1221
00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:31,053
Speaker 19: When I looked into it, we only had twenty eight

1222
00:55:31,213 --> 00:55:34,573
Speaker 19: twenty four days. And you know they're including a ship

1223
00:55:34,653 --> 00:55:37,733
Speaker 19: that's on its way here and then including storage and Singapore.

1224
00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:41,293
Speaker 2: I think it is well, you know, a s thirting

1225
00:55:41,373 --> 00:55:46,493
Speaker 2: chips on the way as of yesterday. Oh sorry, oh

1226
00:55:46,693 --> 00:55:48,413
Speaker 2: you just got cut off. You de started talking about

1227
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:50,173
Speaker 2: where the fuel's coming from. A boom. They didn't like that.

1228
00:55:50,373 --> 00:55:53,093
Speaker 2: Lawrence is gone taken down by big oil. Yeah, drone strike.

1229
00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:55,893
Speaker 3: Maybe he was onto something, Lawrence. Thank you very much, mate,

1230
00:55:55,893 --> 00:55:57,293
Speaker 3: appreciate your phone call.

1231
00:55:57,573 --> 00:56:02,093
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not sure that I believe that people

1232
00:56:02,133 --> 00:56:05,333
Speaker 2: have rushed off into the HEAV, BEEV and FEV dealership

1233
00:56:06,093 --> 00:56:10,853
Speaker 2: because of this latter's fuel scared been hybrid ev, BEV

1234
00:56:11,693 --> 00:56:16,133
Speaker 2: being my best mate, Davis Mum, no BEV being Petrie

1235
00:56:16,213 --> 00:56:20,613
Speaker 2: EV or FEV being the plug in hybrid. I don't

1236
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:22,813
Speaker 2: believe that people have just rushed off to the dealership

1237
00:56:22,893 --> 00:56:25,453
Speaker 2: right because of the latest fuel scare. I think most

1238
00:56:25,493 --> 00:56:27,373
Speaker 2: of us know it will pass soon and after. It

1239
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:29,333
Speaker 2: seems more likely that they were thinking about in all

1240
00:56:29,373 --> 00:56:31,573
Speaker 2: the chat about gas got them gotten through the door,

1241
00:56:31,733 --> 00:56:33,493
Speaker 2: because that's all we're talking about right at the moment,

1242
00:56:33,893 --> 00:56:36,093
Speaker 2: the gas. So if you've been thinking about in any

1243
00:56:36,173 --> 00:56:38,893
Speaker 2: kind of EV, it's probably been foremost in your mind.

1244
00:56:39,173 --> 00:56:41,853
Speaker 2: What also seems to me looking at the numbers is

1245
00:56:41,893 --> 00:56:44,853
Speaker 2: that kiwis love half measures. They don't want to go

1246
00:56:45,013 --> 00:56:47,252
Speaker 2: full BEV as much as they want to go fear

1247
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:49,253
Speaker 2: of for HEAV. They want to fear or have it

1248
00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:52,093
Speaker 2: up back both ways, which might be wise considering the

1249
00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:55,613
Speaker 2: only thing shakier than our fossil fuel import system during

1250
00:56:55,653 --> 00:56:59,493
Speaker 2: a Mid East crisis is the situation with our power

1251
00:56:59,533 --> 00:57:01,453
Speaker 2: grid in a dry year with a gas collapse. So

1252
00:57:02,373 --> 00:57:07,252
Speaker 2: you know, but I will say this finally, that there's

1253
00:57:07,413 --> 00:57:10,252
Speaker 2: little there's very few things in this world more fun

1254
00:57:10,533 --> 00:57:15,133
Speaker 2: than flooring and EV. The talk talks who does it? Well,

1255
00:57:15,253 --> 00:57:17,733
Speaker 2: if you haven't done that in your life, Yeah, if

1256
00:57:17,773 --> 00:57:22,653
Speaker 2: you haven't put the pedal to the metal in an EV,

1257
00:57:24,093 --> 00:57:25,613
Speaker 2: then you haven't lived. Yeah, go and do it.

1258
00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:28,533
Speaker 3: Blow you back in the seats. Great discussion. Thank you

1259
00:57:28,693 --> 00:57:31,333
Speaker 3: to everybody who called and text on that. Coming up

1260
00:57:31,413 --> 00:57:34,253
Speaker 3: after the headlines, the New Zealand government has introduced a

1261
00:57:34,293 --> 00:57:37,533
Speaker 3: bill to significantly loosen and modernize alcohol laws.

1262
00:57:37,613 --> 00:57:40,253
Speaker 2: So if you are in the alcohol.

1263
00:57:39,893 --> 00:57:43,653
Speaker 3: Industry, if you're in hospitality, what difference will relaxing these

1264
00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,453
Speaker 3: booze laws mean for you? Oh, one hundred and eighty

1265
00:57:46,533 --> 00:57:48,853
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two ninety two.

1266
00:57:49,173 --> 00:57:51,093
Speaker 3: And also coming up after the headlines, we're going to

1267
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:55,093
Speaker 3: speak to hospitality New Zealands. That's all coming up. Wendy

1268
00:57:55,333 --> 00:57:56,653
Speaker 3: is standing by for headlines.

1269
00:57:56,693 --> 00:57:57,613
Speaker 2: It is twenty nine to.

1270
00:57:57,693 --> 00:58:02,653
Speaker 15: Three US talk said b headlines with your Rides, New

1271
00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:07,093
Speaker 15: Zealand's number one taxi ap Download your rides today. Skepticism

1272
00:58:07,213 --> 00:58:10,613
Speaker 15: recent deep cuts to staffing will make another healthcare shakeup

1273
00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:14,813
Speaker 15: difficult to deliver. Decisions on hospital staffing and recruiting, budgets

1274
00:58:14,853 --> 00:58:19,333
Speaker 15: and service delivery will devolve two local teams from July. Meanwhile,

1275
00:58:19,373 --> 00:58:22,333
Speaker 15: the Senior Doctors' Union says twenty five million dollars being

1276
00:58:22,373 --> 00:58:25,013
Speaker 15: put into healthcare over the winter peak will be a

1277
00:58:25,173 --> 00:58:27,813
Speaker 15: band aid that's likely to mean just moving staff and

1278
00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:31,933
Speaker 15: resources around. It'll fund extra staff, hospital beds and short

1279
00:58:32,053 --> 00:58:35,853
Speaker 15: stay aged care beds over the period. Our coroner has

1280
00:58:35,853 --> 00:58:38,453
Speaker 15: announced a two week in quest into the twenty twenty

1281
00:58:38,533 --> 00:58:41,693
Speaker 15: two murder of christ Church mother Leyesa Waka by a

1282
00:58:41,773 --> 00:58:45,853
Speaker 15: mental health patient on community release. Former judge and Court

1283
00:58:45,893 --> 00:58:48,653
Speaker 15: of Appeal President Mark o'reagan will lead to the government

1284
00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:52,893
Speaker 15: inquiry into January's fatal landslides at Mount Manganui and Papa Moore.

1285
00:58:53,653 --> 00:58:57,093
Speaker 15: The Ministry says a revamped Color codeed Education Review Office

1286
00:58:57,133 --> 00:59:00,333
Speaker 15: report system will get parents clearer insights on how their

1287
00:59:00,453 --> 00:59:04,293
Speaker 15: child is performing at school plus banged up abroad more

1288
00:59:04,373 --> 00:59:07,213
Speaker 15: than seventy kiwis in overseas jails, with the true total

1289
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:10,053
Speaker 15: unknown out more it ends a herald premium.

1290
00:59:10,413 --> 00:59:11,893
Speaker 2: Now back to Mats and Tyler.

1291
00:59:11,733 --> 00:59:14,173
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. So the government has proposed

1292
00:59:14,173 --> 00:59:17,093
Speaker 3: a raft of changes to alcohol laws. The changes would

1293
00:59:17,133 --> 00:59:20,933
Speaker 3: include limits on who can object to license applications, provide

1294
00:59:20,973 --> 00:59:24,413
Speaker 3: more certainty for license renewals, allow clubs and some restaurants

1295
00:59:24,453 --> 00:59:27,293
Speaker 3: great a flexibility in serving or selling alcohol, and make

1296
00:59:27,333 --> 00:59:30,133
Speaker 3: it easier to host events serving booze as well. Joining

1297
00:59:30,213 --> 00:59:32,893
Speaker 3: us now is Sam McKinnon. He is head of Advocacy

1298
00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,573
Speaker 3: for Hospitality in New Zealand. Sam, very good afternoon to you.

1299
00:59:36,253 --> 00:59:37,613
Speaker 20: Thank Curder. Good afternoon, guys.

1300
00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:40,533
Speaker 2: What in this bill will actually make life easier in

1301
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:42,053
Speaker 2: hospit day to day? Sam?

1302
00:59:43,773 --> 00:59:47,693
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean I think obviously some of the broader

1303
00:59:47,773 --> 00:59:52,453
Speaker 20: licensing renewal process stuff improves the certainty for license holders

1304
00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:55,173
Speaker 20: as they're heading into renewal time. But in terms of

1305
00:59:55,213 --> 00:59:57,293
Speaker 20: the day to day's stuff, I think the zero alcohol

1306
00:59:58,253 --> 01:00:02,893
Speaker 20: product provisions are especially helpful. So currently you have to

1307
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:05,293
Speaker 20: provide low alcohol beverages, which kind of your mid strength

1308
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:07,533
Speaker 20: two and a half percent, and you have to provide

1309
01:00:07,613 --> 01:00:09,773
Speaker 20: no alcohol bever bridges to your soft drinks and water,

1310
01:00:09,893 --> 01:00:13,693
Speaker 20: but zero percent beer kind of falls into that gray area,

1311
01:00:13,813 --> 01:00:17,093
Speaker 20: I guess, And so the new rules mean that you'll

1312
01:00:17,093 --> 01:00:19,173
Speaker 20: be able to serve your zero percent and satisfy that

1313
01:00:19,253 --> 01:00:22,573
Speaker 20: low alcohol provision product. And obviously we know that that's

1314
01:00:22,613 --> 01:00:24,053
Speaker 20: become a massive consumer trend.

1315
01:00:24,693 --> 01:00:26,933
Speaker 2: How big is that become? Just on a side topic

1316
01:00:27,413 --> 01:00:30,053
Speaker 2: because I'll i'll buy zero zero.

1317
01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:34,253
Speaker 20: Yeah, look I don't I don't have the exact figures

1318
01:00:34,293 --> 01:00:37,693
Speaker 20: in front of me, but yeah, I mean, look, it

1319
01:00:37,813 --> 01:00:39,893
Speaker 20: doesn't take very long to work out that it's become

1320
01:00:39,893 --> 01:00:43,013
Speaker 20: a massive growth segment for the for the for the

1321
01:00:43,093 --> 01:00:46,213
Speaker 20: beer market. You know, consumers are asking for it a

1322
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:49,813
Speaker 20: lot more. There's certainly a lot more selection in supermarkets

1323
01:00:49,853 --> 01:00:52,853
Speaker 20: and in venues than there was even sort of two

1324
01:00:52,973 --> 01:00:56,453
Speaker 20: three years ago. So yeah, a big one for us.

1325
01:00:57,133 --> 01:00:59,053
Speaker 2: Do you like the idea of restaurants being able to

1326
01:00:59,653 --> 01:01:01,573
Speaker 2: sell takeaway alcohol?

1327
01:01:03,693 --> 01:01:05,933
Speaker 20: I think I think that's more tidying up some of

1328
01:01:06,013 --> 01:01:10,213
Speaker 20: those some of those restaurants where they might have a

1329
01:01:10,253 --> 01:01:13,373
Speaker 20: retail shop attached, and so depending on your layout of

1330
01:01:13,453 --> 01:01:15,693
Speaker 20: your venue or the hours that you have for your

1331
01:01:16,973 --> 01:01:19,253
Speaker 20: for your off license, you might have to have that

1332
01:01:19,813 --> 01:01:23,053
Speaker 20: retail part of your business shut while people are finishing

1333
01:01:23,093 --> 01:01:27,573
Speaker 20: their dinner in the restaurant. And so it's enabling a

1334
01:01:27,613 --> 01:01:31,573
Speaker 20: bit more of that sort of flexibility you're already purchasing

1335
01:01:31,613 --> 01:01:34,133
Speaker 20: from someone who's been through a license process, and so

1336
01:01:35,013 --> 01:01:37,533
Speaker 20: why wouldn't you be able to also take some wine

1337
01:01:37,573 --> 01:01:40,253
Speaker 20: home if that's what you're choosing to do after your meal.

1338
01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:43,653
Speaker 2: Is that going to be for vineyards with restaurants in

1339
01:01:43,733 --> 01:01:44,253
Speaker 2: them and such?

1340
01:01:45,853 --> 01:01:49,373
Speaker 20: Yeah, but you know there's also the likes of Mediterranean

1341
01:01:49,453 --> 01:01:52,133
Speaker 20: Food Warehouse and some of those other sort of boutique

1342
01:01:53,093 --> 01:01:55,973
Speaker 20: they kind of have that deli model alongside the sort

1343
01:01:56,013 --> 01:02:00,573
Speaker 20: of restaurant side of things, and they'll have wines available

1344
01:02:00,613 --> 01:02:03,333
Speaker 20: and you can either drink those on premise or you

1345
01:02:03,373 --> 01:02:05,293
Speaker 20: should be able to take those home as well afterwards.

1346
01:02:05,853 --> 01:02:08,293
Speaker 3: We are speaking to Hospitality in New Zealand Head of

1347
01:02:08,373 --> 01:02:12,613
Speaker 3: Advocacy Sam McKinnon, So just on the license applications. So

1348
01:02:12,773 --> 01:02:17,213
Speaker 3: this will change those who can object to a license

1349
01:02:17,253 --> 01:02:19,533
Speaker 3: application they have to live or work in the same

1350
01:02:19,573 --> 01:02:22,573
Speaker 3: council area or live within one k of their premises.

1351
01:02:22,773 --> 01:02:23,813
Speaker 2: That makes whole lot of sense.

1352
01:02:23,973 --> 01:02:28,333
Speaker 3: So how many objections were hospitality or premises getting from

1353
01:02:28,373 --> 01:02:31,973
Speaker 3: people outside of where they actually operate from? That was

1354
01:02:32,013 --> 01:02:32,693
Speaker 3: that a big issue?

1355
01:02:33,853 --> 01:02:34,053
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1356
01:02:34,213 --> 01:02:38,173
Speaker 20: So I guess a lot of these changes are rebalancing

1357
01:02:38,773 --> 01:02:41,373
Speaker 20: previous changes to the salence flag Alcohol Act and the

1358
01:02:41,413 --> 01:02:46,133
Speaker 20: way that the licensing system worked, and so previous changes

1359
01:02:46,213 --> 01:02:49,053
Speaker 20: did broaden out who could object, so anyone could object

1360
01:02:49,093 --> 01:02:52,853
Speaker 20: from anywhere, and we did have members who felt that

1361
01:02:52,893 --> 01:02:56,733
Speaker 20: they were getting vexatious objections through their process. You know,

1362
01:02:56,893 --> 01:02:59,053
Speaker 20: you could be a country pub in Otago and no

1363
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:01,133
Speaker 20: one in your local area has any issue with the

1364
01:03:01,173 --> 01:03:04,013
Speaker 20: way that you're operating, but you have a set of

1365
01:03:04,093 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 20: objections coming out of Auckland on the basis of not

1366
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:11,973
Speaker 20: liking anyone selling alcohol rather than a specific issue with

1367
01:03:12,013 --> 01:03:12,813
Speaker 20: the license holder.

1368
01:03:13,693 --> 01:03:13,973
Speaker 5: And so.

1369
01:03:15,533 --> 01:03:18,013
Speaker 20: If you have public objections, that generally ends up in

1370
01:03:18,133 --> 01:03:20,093
Speaker 20: you ending up in a hearing in front of your

1371
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:22,813
Speaker 20: district licensing committee and make the decision over whether or

1372
01:03:22,853 --> 01:03:26,173
Speaker 20: not you should be able to sell alcohol. And that

1373
01:03:26,293 --> 01:03:31,013
Speaker 20: obviously adds significant time and money and uncertainty into the

1374
01:03:31,093 --> 01:03:35,613
Speaker 20: licensing process for full venues. So tightening that up so

1375
01:03:35,733 --> 01:03:39,173
Speaker 20: that the objectors actually have an interest in the local

1376
01:03:39,213 --> 01:03:41,853
Speaker 20: community where the venue is operating makes a lot of sense.

1377
01:03:42,893 --> 01:03:45,813
Speaker 2: Does this do anything to change the balance towards drinking

1378
01:03:45,973 --> 01:03:50,453
Speaker 2: in bars and restaurants over buying from the supermarket and

1379
01:03:50,533 --> 01:03:52,813
Speaker 2: bottle store and taking both home, Because it seems to

1380
01:03:52,893 --> 01:03:55,253
Speaker 2: me that's what we want to happen. That we would

1381
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:59,813
Speaker 2: prefer people were drinking more in restaurants and bars where

1382
01:04:00,053 --> 01:04:03,093
Speaker 2: they are, you know, where they're being looked after and

1383
01:04:03,933 --> 01:04:05,813
Speaker 2: people are being employed. Does it do anything to balance

1384
01:04:06,093 --> 01:04:06,493
Speaker 2: that out?

1385
01:04:08,493 --> 01:04:08,533
Speaker 16: No?

1386
01:04:08,693 --> 01:04:11,613
Speaker 20: I mean, look when it's dealing with the licensing system

1387
01:04:11,653 --> 01:04:14,813
Speaker 20: as a whole, that that applies to off license, so

1388
01:04:14,933 --> 01:04:17,373
Speaker 20: your bottle shops and your supermarkets, as well as it

1389
01:04:17,413 --> 01:04:22,493
Speaker 20: does to onlinense, so your traditional hospo venues. So I

1390
01:04:22,573 --> 01:04:24,973
Speaker 20: guess in terms of the certainty that it provides for

1391
01:04:25,133 --> 01:04:28,653
Speaker 20: our for our membership, and for bars and cafes in general,

1392
01:04:29,253 --> 01:04:33,533
Speaker 20: that's improved. But it doesn't do anything to move where

1393
01:04:33,613 --> 01:04:38,293
Speaker 20: you would choose to consume your alcohol. So yeah, it doesn't.

1394
01:04:38,333 --> 01:04:41,493
Speaker 20: It doesn't. None of these changes necessarily push people towards

1395
01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:45,293
Speaker 20: on premise consumption. But they are changes that we're happy

1396
01:04:45,373 --> 01:04:48,293
Speaker 20: with in terms of making life easier for the day

1397
01:04:48,333 --> 01:04:49,613
Speaker 20: to day operation of a venue.

1398
01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:52,533
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you'd like to see them do

1399
01:04:52,693 --> 01:04:54,493
Speaker 2: as the areas that have been missed in this bill

1400
01:04:54,573 --> 01:04:55,933
Speaker 2: that you think need addressing.

1401
01:04:58,373 --> 01:05:01,293
Speaker 20: I think in terms of the bill itself, there are

1402
01:05:01,453 --> 01:05:05,613
Speaker 20: obviously there's a pretty broad ranging set of things that

1403
01:05:06,093 --> 01:05:08,733
Speaker 20: the bill's looking to amend and I guess tie up

1404
01:05:08,853 --> 01:05:11,533
Speaker 20: some unclear areas within the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act.

1405
01:05:12,253 --> 01:05:15,653
Speaker 20: For us, we're quite keen on seeing a reduction in

1406
01:05:15,773 --> 01:05:20,333
Speaker 20: excise tax on key, specifically as a as a measure

1407
01:05:20,373 --> 01:05:23,693
Speaker 20: that would drive more consumption on premise and obviously support

1408
01:05:23,973 --> 01:05:28,453
Speaker 20: the on premise environment. So that's this bill wouldn't be

1409
01:05:28,573 --> 01:05:30,973
Speaker 20: the right place to do that. But you know, in

1410
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:33,253
Speaker 20: terms of something that would we think would move the

1411
01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:37,693
Speaker 20: dial towards changing where people choose to consume alcohol, that

1412
01:05:37,813 --> 01:05:40,373
Speaker 20: would be that would be the sort of big ticket

1413
01:05:40,413 --> 01:05:42,893
Speaker 20: item if we could have that discussion.

1414
01:05:43,613 --> 01:05:47,213
Speaker 2: Is anyone floating that kind of idea? Is there any

1415
01:05:47,533 --> 01:05:50,173
Speaker 2: political capital in that area at the moment.

1416
01:05:50,253 --> 01:05:53,453
Speaker 20: Well, if anyone, anyone in general is floating it, obviously

1417
01:05:53,573 --> 01:05:58,493
Speaker 20: Hospitality New Zealanders, along with some of our the Brewers

1418
01:05:58,573 --> 01:06:01,253
Speaker 20: Guild who represent the small craft brewers.

1419
01:06:02,013 --> 01:06:04,093
Speaker 2: Sorry I said that wrong, as anyone obviously you guys

1420
01:06:04,093 --> 01:06:09,413
Speaker 2: are floating it. Anyone noticing that flow and looking to

1421
01:06:09,493 --> 01:06:11,653
Speaker 2: come in from the government to help.

1422
01:06:12,613 --> 01:06:15,573
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean we're obviously having that discussion with anyone

1423
01:06:15,613 --> 01:06:19,533
Speaker 20: who will lost. We haven't had any political commitments just yet,

1424
01:06:20,853 --> 01:06:24,933
Speaker 20: but you know, obviously something that we see as having

1425
01:06:25,013 --> 01:06:31,413
Speaker 20: some meaningful impact for venues but are relatively low impact

1426
01:06:31,573 --> 01:06:34,213
Speaker 20: change for the government to make to be able to

1427
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:35,733
Speaker 20: signal their support for the sector.

1428
01:06:36,893 --> 01:06:39,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting stuff, Sam, Thank you very much for having

1429
01:06:39,573 --> 01:06:42,373
Speaker 3: to catch up with us and analyzing that. Really appreciate

1430
01:06:42,413 --> 01:06:42,693
Speaker 3: your time.

1431
01:06:42,693 --> 01:06:45,333
Speaker 2: You have a good afternoon you too, Thanks very much.

1432
01:06:45,493 --> 01:06:48,653
Speaker 3: That is hospitality a New Zealand Head of Advocacy Sam

1433
01:06:48,733 --> 01:06:50,853
Speaker 3: McKinnon right, keen to hear from you if you run

1434
01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:53,413
Speaker 3: a hospital business, what difference is this going to make

1435
01:06:53,413 --> 01:06:55,613
Speaker 3: to you and what roadblocks have you come up against

1436
01:06:55,813 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 3: when it comes to alcohol laws? O eighte hundred and

1437
01:06:58,493 --> 01:07:00,813
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call in ninet

1438
01:07:00,853 --> 01:07:04,053
Speaker 3: two ninety two? Is the Texas eighteen to three the.

1439
01:07:04,213 --> 01:07:07,293
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and

1440
01:07:07,693 --> 01:07:12,013
Speaker 1: everything in Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with Skoda

1441
01:07:12,173 --> 01:07:14,933
Speaker 1: Please go to codes every day at scoter dot co

1442
01:07:15,053 --> 01:07:16,013
Speaker 1: dot nz news.

1443
01:07:16,053 --> 01:07:18,733
Speaker 3: Dogs'd be it is a quarter to three. The government

1444
01:07:18,813 --> 01:07:23,533
Speaker 3: has introduced a bill to significantly loosen and modernize alcohol laws.

1445
01:07:23,653 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 3: So if you're in the industry, if you're a hospo business,

1446
01:07:26,813 --> 01:07:28,813
Speaker 3: is this going to make life easier for you. I

1447
01:07:28,933 --> 01:07:31,973
Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty then this, sorry.

1448
01:07:31,773 --> 01:07:35,013
Speaker 2: Tyler, just over you this sorry buddy, that's all right mates. Sorry,

1449
01:07:35,773 --> 01:07:39,413
Speaker 2: the sixth is disgusted. If people like myself believe that

1450
01:07:39,493 --> 01:07:41,893
Speaker 2: alcohol is a great and evil harm to the country,

1451
01:07:41,973 --> 01:07:44,173
Speaker 2: I should be able to oppose it wherever it is sold.

1452
01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:46,733
Speaker 2: I live in central Wellington. Why would I only fight

1453
01:07:46,973 --> 01:07:50,573
Speaker 2: alcohol there? I care about people nationwide? So yes, I

1454
01:07:50,573 --> 01:07:53,213
Speaker 2: should be able to oppose a pub in Otago. That

1455
01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:56,133
Speaker 2: evil is the same wherever it is. This is not

1456
01:07:56,293 --> 01:07:58,813
Speaker 2: North Korea. I should be able to complain from wherever

1457
01:07:58,933 --> 01:08:00,213
Speaker 2: I live in New Zealand.

1458
01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:00,693
Speaker 3: Grow up?

1459
01:08:01,173 --> 01:08:04,173
Speaker 2: Okay, right, it's a fiery tex So do you.

1460
01:08:04,253 --> 01:08:05,053
Speaker 3: Agree, Duffy?

1461
01:08:05,133 --> 01:08:06,253
Speaker 2: You agree with that text to?

1462
01:08:06,293 --> 01:08:06,533
Speaker 12: Do you.

1463
01:08:08,413 --> 01:08:08,573
Speaker 9: Well?

1464
01:08:09,693 --> 01:08:09,973
Speaker 2: Sort of?

1465
01:08:10,253 --> 01:08:13,573
Speaker 9: Okay? Yeah? I think that you shouldn't be able to

1466
01:08:13,573 --> 01:08:18,532
Speaker 9: complain from miles away. That's ridiculous. I believe it shouldn't

1467
01:08:18,532 --> 01:08:21,213
Speaker 9: be as readily as available as it is.

1468
01:08:21,733 --> 01:08:23,853
Speaker 6: Yeah, because it is.

1469
01:08:24,093 --> 01:08:26,933
Speaker 9: Yeah, really, it's an evil. It's a drug, you know

1470
01:08:26,973 --> 01:08:28,852
Speaker 9: what I mean? Should be treated as such.

1471
01:08:30,173 --> 01:08:32,133
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it is treated as such in that

1472
01:08:32,372 --> 01:08:35,572
Speaker 2: that is heavily regulated. How we can get hold of it?

1473
01:08:35,692 --> 01:08:39,933
Speaker 2: Do you think the greater harm Duffy is in hospitality

1474
01:08:40,213 --> 01:08:41,493
Speaker 2: or in off licenses.

1475
01:08:43,532 --> 01:08:46,972
Speaker 9: Tom is more off licenses, I think where it wasn't

1476
01:08:46,973 --> 01:08:49,333
Speaker 9: available before when they're trying to make it available now,

1477
01:08:49,772 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 9: you know what I mean?

1478
01:08:51,133 --> 01:08:53,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I always think it's you know how heavily

1479
01:08:53,293 --> 01:08:56,412
Speaker 2: alcohol is restricted in restaurants and bars, and then I

1480
01:08:56,492 --> 01:08:58,492
Speaker 2: see that someone can just turn up at nine am

1481
01:08:58,572 --> 01:09:02,333
Speaker 2: at a bottlestore and buy twelve one of gin, and

1482
01:09:02,452 --> 01:09:04,772
Speaker 2: I think that's probably I think that's probably where the

1483
01:09:04,812 --> 01:09:07,852
Speaker 2: real damage happens in the community, right, Yeah.

1484
01:09:07,732 --> 01:09:11,053
Speaker 9: For sure, sure, Yeah, cut it out, take it away. Yeah.

1485
01:09:11,492 --> 01:09:14,452
Speaker 9: I mean on the radio the other day where the

1486
01:09:14,532 --> 01:09:16,812
Speaker 9: guys says, yeah, we're all adults, we should be making

1487
01:09:16,812 --> 01:09:18,932
Speaker 9: our own decisions. And I'm all for that too.

1488
01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:22,452
Speaker 3: But it's a return to society as well, isn't it, Duffy.

1489
01:09:22,532 --> 01:09:25,013
Speaker 3: And on the off license is you know what's the

1490
01:09:25,133 --> 01:09:27,572
Speaker 3: argument for the return on society. I suppose it's a business.

1491
01:09:27,612 --> 01:09:30,213
Speaker 3: It's employing a couple of people, and that's probably it,

1492
01:09:30,333 --> 01:09:33,372
Speaker 3: if we're being honest. But the restaurant, for example, I

1493
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:36,292
Speaker 3: think would have a lot more benefit to general society,

1494
01:09:36,412 --> 01:09:40,333
Speaker 3: not just for employing people, for general well being social connection.

1495
01:09:40,412 --> 01:09:42,253
Speaker 3: There's not much social connection at a bottle store.

1496
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:46,452
Speaker 9: No, not at all, not at all. Yeah, I'm not

1497
01:09:46,492 --> 01:09:48,732
Speaker 9: sure about the restaurant things. I'm just thinking more along

1498
01:09:48,732 --> 01:09:51,333
Speaker 9: the lines, and they should lessen the availability of it,

1499
01:09:51,412 --> 01:09:51,932
Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

1500
01:09:52,492 --> 01:09:54,572
Speaker 2: Do you drink it all, Duffy?

1501
01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:55,772
Speaker 9: Not at all?

1502
01:09:56,333 --> 01:09:56,772
Speaker 12: Have you?

1503
01:09:56,973 --> 01:10:00,372
Speaker 9: Are you an each dream about fifteen years ago?

1504
01:10:00,732 --> 01:10:02,732
Speaker 2: Yeah? And what led you to giving up? If you

1505
01:10:02,772 --> 01:10:04,213
Speaker 2: don't mind me asking, Duffy.

1506
01:10:04,412 --> 01:10:05,972
Speaker 9: I have for getting over mate.

1507
01:10:07,133 --> 01:10:12,772
Speaker 3: Fear they get tough, they do. Yeah, it wasn't interrupting

1508
01:10:12,812 --> 01:10:14,732
Speaker 3: your life in any way though, Duffy. You just thought, No,

1509
01:10:14,812 --> 01:10:16,052
Speaker 3: I can't be bothered with the hangovers.

1510
01:10:16,253 --> 01:10:16,893
Speaker 2: I just don't need it.

1511
01:10:17,812 --> 01:10:19,333
Speaker 9: Yeah, it can't be bothered with it. There's no point

1512
01:10:19,333 --> 01:10:20,732
Speaker 9: in drinking it, you know what I mean. It's just

1513
01:10:21,812 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 9: more trouble than it's worth.

1514
01:10:22,853 --> 01:10:24,013
Speaker 3: Really, would you say that?

1515
01:10:24,612 --> 01:10:27,973
Speaker 2: Because the argument about restricting alcohol is that there are

1516
01:10:28,013 --> 01:10:30,852
Speaker 2: a lot of people that can drink and they behave

1517
01:10:30,933 --> 01:10:34,533
Speaker 2: responsibly and they don't cause any damage to the community.

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01:10:35,532 --> 01:10:38,133
Speaker 2: They may cause damage to themselves with their hangovers and such,

1519
01:10:38,652 --> 01:10:42,853
Speaker 2: but that so the restricting, the heavy restriction of alcohol

1520
01:10:43,333 --> 01:10:47,492
Speaker 2: is punishing everyone because some people can't behave. Do you

1521
01:10:47,652 --> 01:10:51,492
Speaker 2: do you agree with that argument at all, Duffy, I kind.

1522
01:10:51,253 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 9: Of do, actually, yea. It is punishing everybody, But if

1523
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:57,252
Speaker 9: you look on the other end, you're wringing the marijuana,

1524
01:10:57,333 --> 01:11:01,852
Speaker 9: for instance, into it. No, that's not marijuana at all either.

1525
01:11:01,933 --> 01:11:05,812
Speaker 9: But you're restricting everybody because some people are bad with it,

1526
01:11:05,853 --> 01:11:06,333
Speaker 9: you know what I mean?

1527
01:11:08,412 --> 01:11:09,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting thought stuff.

1528
01:11:09,772 --> 01:11:11,333
Speaker 3: You thank you very much. Oh e one hundred and

1529
01:11:11,412 --> 01:11:12,893
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty do you agree with?

1530
01:11:13,133 --> 01:11:13,492
Speaker 2: Duffy?

1531
01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:16,253
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

1532
01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:17,333
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming.

1533
01:11:17,173 --> 01:11:20,772
Speaker 2: Through the hysterical bleeding from those who believe it is

1534
01:11:20,893 --> 01:11:23,652
Speaker 2: the god given right to complain about everything, especially if

1535
01:11:23,652 --> 01:11:25,492
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with them, is amusing and

1536
01:11:25,612 --> 01:11:29,333
Speaker 2: ridiculous at the same time, says Chris. These are probably

1537
01:11:29,372 --> 01:11:31,972
Speaker 2: the same people that complained about McDonald's opening in Wanaka.

1538
01:11:32,173 --> 01:11:33,892
Speaker 2: That's not talking about you, Duffy. That was talking about

1539
01:11:33,933 --> 01:11:34,892
Speaker 2: that text I read out before.

1540
01:11:34,933 --> 01:11:37,412
Speaker 3: By the way, Yes, but look, I mean that was

1541
01:11:37,492 --> 01:11:39,652
Speaker 3: a common problem. Clearly, that's why they're changing the law,

1542
01:11:39,692 --> 01:11:42,213
Speaker 3: that you'd have objectives from outside the region saying that

1543
01:11:42,293 --> 01:11:44,492
Speaker 3: you can't open up a restaurant. One I'm torn on

1544
01:11:45,412 --> 01:11:51,973
Speaker 3: is under this proposal that health boards and health organizations

1545
01:11:51,973 --> 01:11:53,772
Speaker 3: won't be able to have a say. And the reason

1546
01:11:53,853 --> 01:11:56,412
Speaker 3: I'm torn on that is that I've never seen a

1547
01:11:56,492 --> 01:12:00,532
Speaker 3: health board say that a new hospitality venue serving booze

1548
01:12:00,572 --> 01:12:02,213
Speaker 3: is a good idea. They always decline it and say

1549
01:12:02,253 --> 01:12:04,053
Speaker 3: it's not good because our er is are full of

1550
01:12:04,093 --> 01:12:06,893
Speaker 3: people who get too boost up. Then you've got the

1551
01:12:07,013 --> 01:12:09,812
Speaker 3: health organizations that are c anti alcohol. They hate it,

1552
01:12:10,013 --> 01:12:13,213
Speaker 3: you know, that's their remit is to stop people drinking booze,

1553
01:12:13,213 --> 01:12:15,852
Speaker 3: and fair Enough too, but again it's always anti And

1554
01:12:15,933 --> 01:12:19,532
Speaker 3: the reason I'm torn is health hospitals in particular, they

1555
01:12:19,612 --> 01:12:22,532
Speaker 3: do have some skin in the game, but those other organizations,

1556
01:12:22,572 --> 01:12:25,253
Speaker 3: I mean, like that's just stamp and stamp in a

1557
01:12:25,333 --> 01:12:27,852
Speaker 3: sheet saying we object. Of course you do, you're anti

1558
01:12:27,893 --> 01:12:29,572
Speaker 3: alcohol and fair enough that's your remitt.

1559
01:12:29,933 --> 01:12:33,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a bigger picture of that. So, you know,

1560
01:12:33,732 --> 01:12:38,452
Speaker 2: the loneliness epidemic is a huge thing, and so anything

1561
01:12:38,572 --> 01:12:41,732
Speaker 2: we can do to get people out into areas where

1562
01:12:41,732 --> 01:12:44,812
Speaker 2: they're with other New Zealanders interacting with them, such as

1563
01:12:45,133 --> 01:12:49,652
Speaker 2: restaurants and bars, isn't completely bad. There's actually a huge

1564
01:12:49,893 --> 01:12:52,372
Speaker 2: value to that. And you know there's these stats coming

1565
01:12:52,532 --> 01:12:54,692
Speaker 2: back about young people drinking less. And we've talked about

1566
01:12:54,692 --> 01:12:56,972
Speaker 2: this on the show before, but the fact that they're

1567
01:12:57,053 --> 01:12:59,372
Speaker 2: drinking lest isn't necessarily a good thing. If the thing

1568
01:12:59,372 --> 01:13:01,333
Speaker 2: they're choosing to do is just sit in their room

1569
01:13:01,973 --> 01:13:07,093
Speaker 2: doom scrolling, playing video games and watching increasingly horrific adult material, yeah,

1570
01:13:07,173 --> 01:13:09,412
Speaker 2: that's a massive harm on societ. It might be better

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01:13:09,492 --> 01:13:11,333
Speaker 2: to actually have them out at a bar where they're

1572
01:13:11,333 --> 01:13:15,293
Speaker 2: being looked after by security and you know, business owners

1573
01:13:15,333 --> 01:13:19,253
Speaker 2: that care about their patrons and meeting other people. As

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01:13:19,333 --> 01:13:21,093
Speaker 2: we've talked about before. I mean, I met my lovely

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01:13:21,173 --> 01:13:23,253
Speaker 2: partner at a bar. You know me too. They're great

1576
01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:25,492
Speaker 2: places to meet people. Yeah, you know, so it isn't

1577
01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:30,452
Speaker 2: just a zero sum alcohol's evil equation, is it. Yeah?

1578
01:13:31,013 --> 01:13:33,532
Speaker 2: Tell that woman that text and to spend more time

1579
01:13:33,732 --> 01:13:40,092
Speaker 2: having her shaving her armpits. Stupid Wellington hippie, classic greenie,

1580
01:13:40,173 --> 01:13:42,452
Speaker 2: I'd say, but if we're talking about weeds, she would

1581
01:13:42,492 --> 01:13:43,213
Speaker 2: have a different opinion.

1582
01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:46,053
Speaker 3: How do you know that's a fair I didn't get

1583
01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:47,972
Speaker 3: that from that text. I mean that sounded like someone

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01:13:47,973 --> 01:13:50,572
Speaker 3: who was quite rats about drinking.

1585
01:13:50,812 --> 01:13:52,133
Speaker 2: No, but I'm just saying, how do you what do

1586
01:13:52,213 --> 01:13:55,612
Speaker 2: you this isn't necessary. We don't know anything about the

1587
01:13:55,652 --> 01:13:56,372
Speaker 2: sex of the text.

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01:13:56,652 --> 01:13:56,812
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:13:57,253 --> 01:14:00,053
Speaker 2: Disgusted if people this is the text here that this

1590
01:14:00,173 --> 01:14:03,492
Speaker 2: person has said needs to shame for her armpets. Disgusted

1591
01:14:03,532 --> 01:14:05,692
Speaker 2: If people like myself believe that alcohols are great and

1592
01:14:05,772 --> 01:14:08,093
Speaker 2: evil harm to the country. I should be able to

1593
01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:11,053
Speaker 2: wherever it is sold. I live in central Wellington. Why

1594
01:14:11,093 --> 01:14:13,612
Speaker 2: would I only fight out alcohol here. I care about

1595
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:16,052
Speaker 2: people nationwide. So yes, I should be able to oppose

1596
01:14:16,093 --> 01:14:19,772
Speaker 2: a pub in Otago. The evil is the same wherever

1597
01:14:19,853 --> 01:14:21,812
Speaker 2: it is. This is not North Korea. I should be

1598
01:14:21,853 --> 01:14:24,452
Speaker 2: able to complain from wherever I live in New Zealand.

1599
01:14:24,532 --> 01:14:24,932
Speaker 2: Grow up.

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01:14:25,893 --> 01:14:26,732
Speaker 5: That's how do you?

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01:14:27,612 --> 01:14:27,812
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1602
01:14:27,893 --> 01:14:32,093
Speaker 3: Sexist too too far, too far? Sexist TEXTA yeah, nothing

1603
01:14:32,133 --> 01:14:34,412
Speaker 3: about her armpits and that ticks. You cannot read anything

1604
01:14:34,452 --> 01:14:36,213
Speaker 3: about that? Come on, what do you mean her?

1605
01:14:36,412 --> 01:14:38,293
Speaker 2: Yeah? My point is that there's nothing in there to

1606
01:14:38,293 --> 01:14:38,892
Speaker 2: say that to her.

1607
01:14:39,013 --> 01:14:40,852
Speaker 3: Oh right, so now I'll fall into the trap as well.

1608
01:14:40,973 --> 01:14:43,612
Speaker 3: So you're a shame on me too. You're a sex

1609
01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:45,412
Speaker 3: just as bad as that texter.

1610
01:14:45,333 --> 01:14:47,932
Speaker 2: Your sexest pegs. I'm surrounded by sexest pigs. Oh eight,

1611
01:14:47,933 --> 01:14:50,093
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten to eighty text back? Can

1612
01:14:50,133 --> 01:14:51,933
Speaker 2: that text to text back and tell us if what

1613
01:14:52,093 --> 01:14:54,412
Speaker 2: sex you are to see? If these guys are sexist

1614
01:14:54,452 --> 01:14:56,093
Speaker 2: to shame, I don't know if I can recover from that.

1615
01:14:56,213 --> 01:14:57,412
Speaker 2: It is seven to three.

1616
01:14:58,133 --> 01:15:02,013
Speaker 1: Pig the issues that affect you and a bit of

1617
01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:05,372
Speaker 1: fun along the way Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons

1618
01:15:05,652 --> 01:15:06,612
Speaker 1: news talk. Sa'd be.

1619
01:15:08,412 --> 01:15:09,972
Speaker 2: News talks to me. It is four to three.

1620
01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:12,932
Speaker 1: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code?

1621
01:15:13,532 --> 01:15:15,372
Speaker 3: Yes, the team at Scotera want to send you and

1622
01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:17,772
Speaker 3: a friend to experience the Tour de France when you

1623
01:15:17,853 --> 01:15:20,333
Speaker 3: play Scoda codes. But if you need a bit of

1624
01:15:20,372 --> 01:15:23,213
Speaker 3: help cranking today's Scoter code, we are here to help

1625
01:15:23,253 --> 01:15:23,932
Speaker 3: with the clue.

1626
01:15:24,652 --> 01:15:28,452
Speaker 2: Ireland's favorite foliage and luck if it's got four leagues.

1627
01:15:29,093 --> 01:15:31,772
Speaker 2: That's the clue Island's favorite foliage and luck if it's

1628
01:15:31,853 --> 01:15:32,492
Speaker 2: got four.

1629
01:15:32,372 --> 01:15:35,013
Speaker 3: League, great day for that clue. So make sure you

1630
01:15:35,173 --> 01:15:37,013
Speaker 3: are in to win a trip for two to the

1631
01:15:37,093 --> 01:15:40,532
Speaker 3: Tour de France. Just go to Skoda dot Co dot

1632
01:15:40,853 --> 01:15:42,772
Speaker 3: ends here to make sure you're in to win. What

1633
01:15:42,893 --> 01:15:44,173
Speaker 3: a fantastic price.

1634
01:15:44,372 --> 01:15:48,772
Speaker 2: Now that texter who you are sixist about Tyler questionable? Yep,

1635
01:15:49,013 --> 01:15:52,213
Speaker 2: that person has come back okay, Okay, so you're in

1636
01:15:52,293 --> 01:15:54,372
Speaker 2: for it after the break, Okay, looking forward to that

1637
01:15:54,853 --> 01:15:59,492
Speaker 2: news coming up. Sexist by Old.

1638
01:15:59,532 --> 01:16:09,173
Speaker 1: Town, the Big Stories, the leak issues, living trends, and

1639
01:16:09,572 --> 01:16:13,293
Speaker 1: everything in between. Kids, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon

1640
01:16:13,492 --> 01:16:15,692
Speaker 1: Squi Goda News Talk said the.

1641
01:16:19,133 --> 01:16:21,253
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you, welcome back into the show. It is

1642
01:16:21,372 --> 01:16:24,933
Speaker 3: seven a past three. So we have been discussing a

1643
01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:27,572
Speaker 3: new bill that's been introduced by the government looking to

1644
01:16:27,732 --> 01:16:32,052
Speaker 3: significantly loosen and modernize alcohol laws. So just briefly, because

1645
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:35,133
Speaker 3: there's a lot of amendments in that bill, but it

1646
01:16:35,173 --> 01:16:38,133
Speaker 3: would include limits on who can object to license applications,

1647
01:16:38,173 --> 01:16:42,812
Speaker 3: provide more certainty for license renewals, allow clubs and some restaurants.

1648
01:16:42,933 --> 01:16:45,173
Speaker 2: Sorry, so is that you have to live within a

1649
01:16:45,572 --> 01:16:48,132
Speaker 2: one kilometer radius? Is that correct? That is correct?

1650
01:16:48,253 --> 01:16:51,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you work for a council in that area, right,

1651
01:16:51,933 --> 01:16:54,412
Speaker 3: So pretty specific, but that I mean some people would

1652
01:16:54,412 --> 01:16:55,612
Speaker 3: say that makes a lot of sense if you're not

1653
01:16:55,692 --> 01:16:57,052
Speaker 3: in the town, don't complain.

1654
01:16:57,372 --> 01:16:58,772
Speaker 2: So do you get out there? You get out the

1655
01:16:58,933 --> 01:17:00,772
Speaker 2: compass and you do a little circle and you go,

1656
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:02,532
Speaker 2: oh no, I think on one.

1657
01:17:02,452 --> 01:17:03,812
Speaker 3: Foot out, Yeah, I think you have to walk in

1658
01:17:03,893 --> 01:17:06,412
Speaker 3: and say how close am I to this place? And

1659
01:17:06,572 --> 01:17:08,732
Speaker 3: it would also make it easy to host events, extend

1660
01:17:08,732 --> 01:17:12,333
Speaker 3: trading now is for more major televised events and allow

1661
01:17:12,692 --> 01:17:15,972
Speaker 3: places like he addresses barbers to have a little booze

1662
01:17:16,452 --> 01:17:18,372
Speaker 3: offered if you need it. But we did have a

1663
01:17:18,492 --> 01:17:21,772
Speaker 3: chat to hospitality in New Zealand's Sam McKinnon earlier and

1664
01:17:21,812 --> 01:17:23,213
Speaker 3: here's a little bit of what he had to say.

1665
01:17:23,452 --> 01:17:25,093
Speaker 20: In terms of the day to day's stuff. I think

1666
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:30,612
Speaker 20: the zero alcohol product provisions are especially helpful. So currently

1667
01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:33,412
Speaker 20: you have to provide low alcohol beverages which kind of

1668
01:17:33,492 --> 01:17:35,572
Speaker 20: your mid strength two and a half percent, and you

1669
01:17:35,692 --> 01:17:38,213
Speaker 20: have to provide no alcohol beverages, so your soft drinks

1670
01:17:38,253 --> 01:17:40,652
Speaker 20: and water, but zero percent beer kind of falls into

1671
01:17:40,732 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 20: that gray area, I guess. And so the new rules

1672
01:17:45,372 --> 01:17:47,173
Speaker 20: mean that you'll be able to serve your zero percent

1673
01:17:47,253 --> 01:17:50,452
Speaker 20: and satisfy that low alcohol provision product. And obviously we

1674
01:17:50,572 --> 01:17:52,812
Speaker 20: know that that's become a massive consumer trend.

1675
01:17:53,812 --> 01:17:55,572
Speaker 3: So that makes a lot of sense when it comes

1676
01:17:55,652 --> 01:17:58,772
Speaker 3: to the zero alcohol situation. I mean, it just seems

1677
01:17:58,812 --> 01:18:00,372
Speaker 3: like common sense. But what do you say, Oh, one

1678
01:18:00,452 --> 01:18:02,253
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

1679
01:18:02,213 --> 01:18:05,173
Speaker 2: Whenever I hear the zerok thing I'm trying to I've

1680
01:18:05,213 --> 01:18:06,692
Speaker 2: heard the answer to it, but someone might be able

1681
01:18:06,692 --> 01:18:08,492
Speaker 2: to help me out on nine two nine two, one

1682
01:18:08,532 --> 01:18:10,772
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. But why is it that

1683
01:18:11,013 --> 01:18:14,452
Speaker 2: zero called beer costs the same pretty much the same

1684
01:18:14,692 --> 01:18:17,412
Speaker 2: as fall alcohol beer when they're not paying excise tax

1685
01:18:17,492 --> 01:18:17,652
Speaker 2: on it.

1686
01:18:17,973 --> 01:18:20,333
Speaker 3: It's a good question nine two ninety two if you're

1687
01:18:20,372 --> 01:18:22,772
Speaker 3: in the business, love to hear from you now.

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01:18:22,772 --> 01:18:26,692
Speaker 2: Before we go to tiny. There was a text that

1689
01:18:26,732 --> 01:18:30,852
Speaker 2: I read out before. Yeah, and then you and a text, Tyler,

1690
01:18:30,893 --> 01:18:33,253
Speaker 2: You and a text both assumed it was a woman, yeah,

1691
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:36,372
Speaker 2: and estentially misgendered. And I said that was sexist. You

1692
01:18:36,492 --> 01:18:39,892
Speaker 2: did because you because you both took a negative approach

1693
01:18:40,013 --> 01:18:42,852
Speaker 2: to that text. And then you assumed it a woman,

1694
01:18:43,173 --> 01:18:45,173
Speaker 2: which sugguced to me that both you that you and

1695
01:18:45,213 --> 01:18:48,053
Speaker 2: the text of hate woman, and you're a misogynist.

1696
01:18:49,372 --> 01:18:52,213
Speaker 3: It's some every readings, there's some so we've heard between

1697
01:18:52,213 --> 01:18:52,492
Speaker 3: the lines.

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01:18:52,532 --> 01:18:55,412
Speaker 2: We've heard back from this texture. Okay, right here we go,

1699
01:18:55,572 --> 01:18:57,692
Speaker 2: so I'll read the original text, yeah please, and the

1700
01:18:57,772 --> 01:19:01,492
Speaker 2: response okay, yep, this was the original text that you

1701
01:19:01,612 --> 01:19:04,372
Speaker 2: assumed was female. Yes, I did, and the other text.

1702
01:19:04,732 --> 01:19:08,293
Speaker 2: Yeah disgusted, says this text. If people like myself believe

1703
01:19:08,412 --> 01:19:11,532
Speaker 2: that alcohol is a great and evil harm to the country,

1704
01:19:11,612 --> 01:19:13,572
Speaker 2: I should be able to oppose it wherever it is sold.

1705
01:19:13,893 --> 01:19:16,173
Speaker 2: I live in central Wellingon. Why would I only fight

1706
01:19:16,253 --> 01:19:19,452
Speaker 2: alcohol here. I care about people nationwide. So yes, I

1707
01:19:19,492 --> 01:19:22,053
Speaker 2: should be able to oppose a pub in Otago. The

1708
01:19:22,173 --> 01:19:24,973
Speaker 2: evil is the same wherever it is. This is not

1709
01:19:25,133 --> 01:19:27,612
Speaker 2: North Korea. I should be able to complain from wherever

1710
01:19:27,772 --> 01:19:29,572
Speaker 2: I live in New Zealand. Grow up.

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01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:34,133
Speaker 3: Yep, right, so they have come back. I don't want

1712
01:19:34,293 --> 01:19:37,652
Speaker 3: to chuck out a gee again, but come on, they.

1713
01:19:37,612 --> 01:19:39,293
Speaker 2: Have come back. But it doesn't let you the texture

1714
01:19:39,293 --> 01:19:40,933
Speaker 2: off the hot I reckon it might do I do

1715
01:19:41,093 --> 01:19:41,852
Speaker 2: happen to be female?

1716
01:19:41,893 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 1: There you go.

1717
01:19:43,372 --> 01:19:46,053
Speaker 2: Not that it matters, No, it doesn't matter direct But

1718
01:19:46,213 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 2: thank you for calling those pigs sexist. Matt Armpit comments,

1719
01:19:51,133 --> 01:19:54,213
Speaker 2: Really is this in the nineteen eighties? That wasn't me.

1720
01:19:54,933 --> 01:19:56,372
Speaker 3: You're a voice of reason, Matt.

1721
01:19:56,532 --> 01:19:59,532
Speaker 2: Thanks for sticking up for me for it's the reason. Wow.

1722
01:19:59,893 --> 01:20:02,012
Speaker 3: Good on you, mate, Good on you forgetting that text.

1723
01:20:02,293 --> 01:20:04,053
Speaker 3: And can I just say it was a flip of

1724
01:20:04,093 --> 01:20:06,333
Speaker 3: the coin and I happened to get it right, nothing

1725
01:20:06,372 --> 01:20:06,572
Speaker 3: in it.

1726
01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:10,892
Speaker 2: I just took a guess, took a stab Tony. Welcome

1727
01:20:10,933 --> 01:20:14,412
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, here you go, good things mate.

1728
01:20:15,772 --> 01:20:19,333
Speaker 14: Okay, well this is the problem I reckon. The problem

1729
01:20:19,412 --> 01:20:22,492
Speaker 14: was we should be able to have alcohol, we should

1730
01:20:22,492 --> 01:20:24,932
Speaker 14: be able to go like homego, and should be saw

1731
01:20:25,013 --> 01:20:26,812
Speaker 14: down on wanting to. But it was stopped because they

1732
01:20:26,853 --> 01:20:30,852
Speaker 14: wanted to grow and the council wanted to reduce the

1733
01:20:30,973 --> 01:20:34,333
Speaker 14: alcohol sales. That's what I heard. Open right, that sounds

1734
01:20:34,692 --> 01:20:36,572
Speaker 14: what's something that the council would do, and the police

1735
01:20:36,572 --> 01:20:38,173
Speaker 14: back it because they're trying to stop it as well.

1736
01:20:39,133 --> 01:20:40,852
Speaker 14: The thing that's what gets me is, you know, you

1737
01:20:41,532 --> 01:20:44,133
Speaker 14: open up the bottle shops and the bars to eighteen

1738
01:20:44,173 --> 01:20:50,532
Speaker 14: year olds with no no experience. They done and said, no,

1739
01:20:50,652 --> 01:20:51,893
Speaker 14: you're not going to the botle shop. You can go

1740
01:20:51,973 --> 01:20:53,532
Speaker 14: in a pub and you can buy beer. We're gonna

1741
01:20:53,532 --> 01:20:54,732
Speaker 14: put a band on you. We're gonna watch you and

1742
01:20:54,732 --> 01:20:57,612
Speaker 14: watch you've had too much. That's what they let them

1743
01:20:57,692 --> 01:20:59,732
Speaker 14: out there. And my daughter's one and I was one

1744
01:20:59,812 --> 01:21:01,772
Speaker 14: two and they get hamed.

1745
01:21:02,452 --> 01:21:03,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got.

1746
01:21:04,853 --> 01:21:05,532
Speaker 2: A really good idea.

1747
01:21:05,612 --> 01:21:07,972
Speaker 3: So what you're effectively saying is once you're at eighteen,

1748
01:21:08,333 --> 01:21:10,133
Speaker 3: you're allowed to go drink at a bar or a

1749
01:21:10,293 --> 01:21:13,492
Speaker 3: restaurant where there's rules and you know, responsibility in place,

1750
01:21:13,692 --> 01:21:15,772
Speaker 3: but you can't buy from a liquor store until you're

1751
01:21:15,772 --> 01:21:16,133
Speaker 3: twenty one.

1752
01:21:16,173 --> 01:21:19,372
Speaker 14: I like that idea, and this is what gets me

1753
01:21:19,532 --> 01:21:23,093
Speaker 14: of governments, labor, national, all of them. I just we've

1754
01:21:23,133 --> 01:21:26,653
Speaker 14: got people in there haven't even lived. They just career politicians.

1755
01:21:26,692 --> 01:21:28,732
Speaker 14: They've got no idea. I've never been probably half we've

1756
01:21:28,772 --> 01:21:31,772
Speaker 14: any been out of the country. You know, Yes, I've

1757
01:21:31,772 --> 01:21:34,412
Speaker 14: spent six seven years in London, and you know that's right.

1758
01:21:35,293 --> 01:21:38,412
Speaker 14: I mean, you've got to give you just to open

1759
01:21:38,452 --> 01:21:41,333
Speaker 14: the floodgate to go here you go, oh, three years later,

1760
01:21:41,412 --> 01:21:44,093
Speaker 14: we'll go a drinking problem in New Zealand. Peace to

1761
01:21:44,133 --> 01:21:47,013
Speaker 14: run around ruddy homes where people betting the shit out

1762
01:21:47,013 --> 01:21:49,812
Speaker 14: of each other. You know, you've really got to educate

1763
01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:51,412
Speaker 14: people and get them in there and get them in

1764
01:21:51,412 --> 01:21:52,092
Speaker 14: a good environment.

1765
01:21:53,133 --> 01:21:55,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for you call Tony interesting idea. I mean,

1766
01:21:55,732 --> 01:21:58,013
Speaker 3: I can I see the logic of what Tony's saying there,

1767
01:21:58,053 --> 01:22:02,213
Speaker 3: But instantly I'm thinking about the university students. I mean, yes,

1768
01:22:03,013 --> 01:22:04,333
Speaker 3: eighteen year olds can get themselves.

1769
01:22:04,372 --> 01:22:06,213
Speaker 2: We're in trouble with booze. I can get myself in

1770
01:22:06,253 --> 01:22:06,972
Speaker 2: trouble with booze.

1771
01:22:07,013 --> 01:22:12,133
Speaker 3: But isn't that part of learning how to drink responsibly

1772
01:22:12,492 --> 01:22:14,732
Speaker 3: and take in responsibility for your actions.

1773
01:22:14,893 --> 01:22:16,612
Speaker 2: Is that that is the law that we have.

1774
01:22:16,772 --> 01:22:19,053
Speaker 3: At eighteen, you're old enough to drink, you're old enough

1775
01:22:19,093 --> 01:22:21,293
Speaker 3: to do a whole bunch of things. And to say

1776
01:22:21,412 --> 01:22:24,652
Speaker 3: you can only go to a restaurant or a bar

1777
01:22:24,812 --> 01:22:27,093
Speaker 3: and drink, but you can't ever have it at home

1778
01:22:27,213 --> 01:22:28,293
Speaker 3: or with your friends.

1779
01:22:28,412 --> 01:22:31,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess the argument would be, you're treating

1780
01:22:31,293 --> 01:22:33,572
Speaker 2: the two places exactly the same. So you're treating an

1781
01:22:33,572 --> 01:22:36,052
Speaker 2: offline since when people can go home and drink whatever

1782
01:22:36,133 --> 01:22:40,253
Speaker 2: they want from the age of eighteen with absolutely no oversight, right,

1783
01:22:40,692 --> 01:22:43,492
Speaker 2: and so you're charging the same amount of exercise tax

1784
01:22:43,572 --> 01:22:46,532
Speaker 2: on them as the other people that you can regulate.

1785
01:22:47,372 --> 01:22:51,893
Speaker 2: And so you put all these massive restrictions on hospitality

1786
01:22:52,173 --> 01:22:57,253
Speaker 2: restaurants and bars such that they can't serve intoxicated people

1787
01:22:57,293 --> 01:23:00,972
Speaker 2: and have to oversee that which they do, that they'll

1788
01:23:01,053 --> 01:23:07,372
Speaker 2: provide security, they're hiring people, they're building establishments, they're good

1789
01:23:07,452 --> 01:23:10,213
Speaker 2: in the community of social harm. But you're both being

1790
01:23:10,293 --> 01:23:13,932
Speaker 2: treated the same. So I just I think that there's

1791
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:17,092
Speaker 2: no doubt that in my mind anyway, that the biggest

1792
01:23:17,133 --> 01:23:22,412
Speaker 2: social harm comes from from off licenses and people taking

1793
01:23:22,492 --> 01:23:26,692
Speaker 2: alcohol home. Right, So it just feels like they should

1794
01:23:26,692 --> 01:23:29,412
Speaker 2: be treated differently. The hospo should be treated with kid

1795
01:23:29,452 --> 01:23:33,213
Speaker 2: gloves and helped and encouraged and such that more people

1796
01:23:33,412 --> 01:23:36,772
Speaker 2: consume their alcohol there than slamming on one, one, two

1797
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:38,333
Speaker 2: five at home before breakfast.

1798
01:23:38,692 --> 01:23:42,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I can see the hospitality gets blamed for,

1799
01:23:42,812 --> 01:23:44,893
Speaker 3: you know, alcohol harm in this country, and that is

1800
01:23:45,053 --> 01:23:47,732
Speaker 3: unfair because they are arguably doing a whole lot more

1801
01:23:48,612 --> 01:23:50,372
Speaker 3: than the bottle stores who just lead you to take

1802
01:23:50,412 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 3: how much, however much you want home? But what do

1803
01:23:52,293 --> 01:23:54,333
Speaker 3: you say, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1804
01:23:54,412 --> 01:23:57,173
Speaker 3: the number to call? Nine two ninety two is the text.

1805
01:23:57,732 --> 01:24:00,173
Speaker 2: So that this is the reason I always forget about

1806
01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:05,093
Speaker 2: why is zero percent alcohol is still expensive because as

1807
01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:07,812
Speaker 2: a bunch of people are texting in it, it's it's

1808
01:24:07,973 --> 01:24:11,093
Speaker 2: a breath COMPLICATEX process to remove the alcohol. So you

1809
01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:13,692
Speaker 2: have to have the alcohol in the beer otherwise it

1810
01:24:13,772 --> 01:24:15,612
Speaker 2: tastes weird because you've got to turn it into beer,

1811
01:24:15,732 --> 01:24:18,333
Speaker 2: right right, So it has to go through that process.

1812
01:24:18,812 --> 01:24:20,372
Speaker 2: But then you have to remove the alcohol, which is

1813
01:24:20,372 --> 01:24:23,013
Speaker 2: a really expensive process. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I

1814
01:24:23,053 --> 01:24:24,572
Speaker 2: think that solves it. And what do they do with

1815
01:24:24,652 --> 01:24:25,132
Speaker 2: that alcohol?

1816
01:24:26,692 --> 01:24:26,772
Speaker 5: Oh?

1817
01:24:26,812 --> 01:24:28,133
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1818
01:24:28,133 --> 01:24:30,852
Speaker 3: If you're in a hospitality, how do you feel about

1819
01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:32,772
Speaker 3: these changes come in? Is that going to make life

1820
01:24:32,893 --> 01:24:36,053
Speaker 3: easier for you? Share your view? It is quarter past three,

1821
01:24:36,372 --> 01:24:40,173
Speaker 3: used TALKSB news dogs THEREB. It is eighteen past three.

1822
01:24:40,412 --> 01:24:42,293
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to get onto the next topic, which

1823
01:24:42,333 --> 01:24:44,972
Speaker 2: you'll announce very soon, Tyler. So I just thought i'd

1824
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:47,452
Speaker 2: mop this one up with a few texts.

1825
01:24:47,532 --> 01:24:48,053
Speaker 3: Okay, yep.

1826
01:24:48,973 --> 01:24:50,812
Speaker 2: So this text says, I think it would be interesting

1827
01:24:50,893 --> 01:24:53,052
Speaker 2: to see the demographic of the people who are actually

1828
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:55,812
Speaker 2: opposing these drinking or alcohol lick a license's laws, because

1829
01:24:55,853 --> 01:24:58,253
Speaker 2: it is easy to ban drinking and ban all these

1830
01:24:58,293 --> 01:25:00,772
Speaker 2: things to promote sensible drinking. When you are settled in

1831
01:25:01,253 --> 01:25:04,173
Speaker 2: and or you've met your partner and you're in a

1832
01:25:04,213 --> 01:25:06,412
Speaker 2: different stage in your life, it is easier to aggressively

1833
01:25:06,412 --> 01:25:10,052
Speaker 2: oppose these acts because they don't affect you individually anymore

1834
01:25:10,213 --> 01:25:12,732
Speaker 2: or directly. But you can't expect young people to not

1835
01:25:13,492 --> 01:25:16,452
Speaker 2: avail of alcohol. And yes it does. The does the

1836
01:25:16,572 --> 01:25:18,772
Speaker 2: fine line between how damaging it can be at the

1837
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:21,253
Speaker 2: same time, you can't just completely block it for everyone.

1838
01:25:21,572 --> 01:25:24,173
Speaker 2: So under the age of people who are opposing versus

1839
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,372
Speaker 2: the people who aren't. And that's a really good question

1840
01:25:26,492 --> 01:25:28,333
Speaker 2: because a lot of a lot of what happens to

1841
01:25:28,452 --> 01:25:30,293
Speaker 2: society is you've had your fun. You know, you want

1842
01:25:30,293 --> 01:25:32,972
Speaker 2: to shut it down because you're worried about the dangers

1843
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:35,772
Speaker 2: that causes. But that's after you've met your lovely partner

1844
01:25:35,853 --> 01:25:39,132
Speaker 2: and you're all shacked up and you're a bit tireder

1845
01:25:39,492 --> 01:25:41,812
Speaker 2: and the hangovers hurt too much for your drinks. Like,

1846
01:25:42,173 --> 01:25:45,452
Speaker 2: let's shut it down because I don't like that, you know,

1847
01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:47,852
Speaker 2: that anarchy in my neighborhood.

1848
01:25:47,372 --> 01:25:48,852
Speaker 3: Or what I like you kids doing what I did.

1849
01:25:49,093 --> 01:25:50,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so much, just so much of

1850
01:25:51,053 --> 01:25:53,093
Speaker 2: that there is, and you can see it happening. Yeah.

1851
01:25:53,652 --> 01:25:55,333
Speaker 2: It was like me the other day talking about shopping

1852
01:25:55,372 --> 01:25:59,213
Speaker 2: trolleys and how disgusted I was that people leave shopping

1853
01:25:59,253 --> 01:26:01,253
Speaker 2: trolleys on burms. And then someone point out in a

1854
01:26:01,333 --> 01:26:03,412
Speaker 2: TV show, I've seen you writing a shopping trolley down

1855
01:26:03,452 --> 01:26:06,452
Speaker 2: a hell the stunt. Yeah, you know, boys, what do

1856
01:26:06,572 --> 01:26:10,452
Speaker 2: you call someone professing that this isn't North Korea? Meanwhile,

1857
01:26:10,532 --> 01:26:12,452
Speaker 2: proceeding to state no one in the country should be

1858
01:26:12,452 --> 01:26:16,613
Speaker 2: able to drink alcohol just because they think it's evil, narcissist, unbelievable,

1859
01:26:16,652 --> 01:26:18,972
Speaker 2: no self awareness. There good to call that out. That's

1860
01:26:19,053 --> 01:26:21,572
Speaker 2: from he and hey fellers, love your show. There is

1861
01:26:21,612 --> 01:26:24,213
Speaker 2: no way I would ever pay for a zero coal beer.

1862
01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:27,892
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous the price. If I'm not drinking, I'm gonna

1863
01:26:27,893 --> 01:26:29,732
Speaker 2: have a water or a coach here's mark. See. The

1864
01:26:29,812 --> 01:26:32,333
Speaker 2: thing about a zero alcohol beer, though, is if you're

1865
01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:35,933
Speaker 2: not drinking. In New Zealand with such a drinking society,

1866
01:26:36,452 --> 01:26:39,213
Speaker 2: that it causes a lot of social anxiety at the

1867
01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:42,013
Speaker 2: table and a lot of questions if you if you

1868
01:26:42,173 --> 01:26:45,652
Speaker 2: rock up with orange juice, yeah, you know. So a

1869
01:26:45,692 --> 01:26:47,852
Speaker 2: lot of the reason why people drink zero alcohol beers

1870
01:26:48,412 --> 01:26:50,612
Speaker 2: is just so they're drinking a beer and no one

1871
01:26:50,652 --> 01:26:51,333
Speaker 2: freaks out right.

1872
01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:53,093
Speaker 3: Yep, and you hide the labels so nobody knows that

1873
01:26:53,253 --> 01:26:53,732
Speaker 3: zero percent.

1874
01:26:53,853 --> 01:26:55,412
Speaker 2: The text says, my opinion is that if you don't

1875
01:26:55,492 --> 01:26:57,893
Speaker 2: vote in the area and you have no then you

1876
01:26:58,053 --> 01:26:59,972
Speaker 2: have no say in what goes on in that area

1877
01:27:00,133 --> 01:27:02,173
Speaker 2: or what the local council or councilors decide.

1878
01:27:02,372 --> 01:27:05,372
Speaker 3: Okay, right, fair enough, haha.

1879
01:27:05,572 --> 01:27:08,532
Speaker 2: Business owners caring about patrons, patrons, they couldn't of a

1880
01:27:08,652 --> 01:27:12,052
Speaker 2: toss some of them during COVID they were complete tosses. Yes,

1881
01:27:12,612 --> 01:27:15,333
Speaker 2: years of giving them custom, then treated like pariahs. Prefers

1882
01:27:15,412 --> 01:27:17,412
Speaker 2: stay at home with my friends and their homes.

1883
01:27:17,492 --> 01:27:17,612
Speaker 6: Now.

1884
01:27:17,652 --> 01:27:20,652
Speaker 2: Community can be real a holes these days. Rather stick

1885
01:27:20,692 --> 01:27:22,132
Speaker 2: to family and friends now, Okay.

1886
01:27:22,013 --> 01:27:25,572
Speaker 3: All right, okay, sorry to hear that. I stand by it.

1887
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 3: Clubs are a great place to meet people.

1888
01:27:27,572 --> 01:27:30,293
Speaker 2: It's a lovely comm You don't think anyone that knows

1889
01:27:30,372 --> 01:27:33,972
Speaker 2: a publican or a restaurant owner they hear so greatly

1890
01:27:34,093 --> 01:27:35,052
Speaker 2: about their patrons.

1891
01:27:35,133 --> 01:27:35,293
Speaker 9: Yep.

1892
01:27:36,093 --> 01:27:39,093
Speaker 2: That's people get into that business, into hospital because they

1893
01:27:39,293 --> 01:27:42,452
Speaker 2: like people, not just they hate people. And places that

1894
01:27:42,612 --> 01:27:45,012
Speaker 2: don't care about their patrons don't last very long. Yeah,

1895
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:45,492
Speaker 2: spot on.

1896
01:27:46,253 --> 01:27:48,812
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for all those ticks, and appreciate

1897
01:27:48,853 --> 01:27:51,412
Speaker 3: your phone call as well. So we'll see what happens

1898
01:27:51,692 --> 01:27:53,732
Speaker 3: with those proposals. But it seems like I've got a

1899
01:27:53,772 --> 01:27:57,772
Speaker 3: big tick from most people in hospitality and the alcohol industry.

1900
01:27:58,093 --> 01:28:00,053
Speaker 2: Coming up after we.

1901
01:28:00,133 --> 01:28:03,173
Speaker 3: Play some messages, we won't ever talk about a new

1902
01:28:03,253 --> 01:28:05,732
Speaker 3: report by m Fact so it shows more than seventy

1903
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:09,173
Speaker 3: New Zealanders are currently imprisoned overseas. Officialill say the true

1904
01:28:09,253 --> 01:28:12,452
Speaker 3: number is likely higher because some people do not notify

1905
01:28:12,772 --> 01:28:15,732
Speaker 3: the government here when they get arrested. The cases evolve

1906
01:28:15,812 --> 01:28:19,012
Speaker 3: key We's jailed across multiple different countries for a range

1907
01:28:19,013 --> 01:28:21,652
Speaker 3: of offenses, including some of the more serious one drug

1908
01:28:21,732 --> 01:28:24,532
Speaker 3: related crimes and other charges. But the question I've got

1909
01:28:24,572 --> 01:28:27,732
Speaker 3: for you is, have you ever got into trouble while

1910
01:28:27,812 --> 01:28:31,412
Speaker 3: traveling abroad? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that

1911
01:28:31,572 --> 01:28:33,572
Speaker 3: number to call if you came close to being arrested,

1912
01:28:33,612 --> 01:28:36,732
Speaker 3: if you did spend some time in a slammer in

1913
01:28:36,893 --> 01:28:37,972
Speaker 3: a far flung country.

1914
01:28:38,333 --> 01:28:42,132
Speaker 2: It's everyone's greatest fear when you go to countries that's

1915
01:28:42,732 --> 01:28:45,572
Speaker 2: you know, third world countries where for example, where their

1916
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:49,932
Speaker 2: prison system isn't as friendly as our one here is. Yep.

1917
01:28:50,532 --> 01:28:52,053
Speaker 2: Not to say that I'd like to end up in

1918
01:28:52,093 --> 01:28:54,253
Speaker 2: prison here, but it doesn't sound like a good time,

1919
01:28:54,333 --> 01:28:56,173
Speaker 2: to be fair. But there's worse places in the world

1920
01:28:56,213 --> 01:28:57,772
Speaker 2: to be in prison than here. So it's one of

1921
01:28:57,772 --> 01:29:00,452
Speaker 2: those things when you go overseas where you maybe think that,

1922
01:29:00,893 --> 01:29:04,452
Speaker 2: I mean makes sense to behave in another country. Yes

1923
01:29:04,572 --> 01:29:06,492
Speaker 2: it does. Yeah, you do definitely don't want to be

1924
01:29:06,492 --> 01:29:09,093
Speaker 2: in a midnight express situation. It'll be interested to know

1925
01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:12,573
Speaker 2: people that have spent time in jail or prison overseas

1926
01:29:12,933 --> 01:29:14,772
Speaker 2: and how they dealt with it and what the first

1927
01:29:14,853 --> 01:29:17,013
Speaker 2: calls you make when you get into that kind of

1928
01:29:17,093 --> 01:29:18,052
Speaker 2: legal trouble overseas.

1929
01:29:18,133 --> 01:29:20,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us your stories. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1930
01:29:20,133 --> 01:29:22,892
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Ninety two ninety

1931
01:29:22,893 --> 01:29:25,812
Speaker 3: two is the text. It is twenty two past three.

1932
01:29:25,933 --> 01:29:32,052
Speaker 1: Will be back very shortly, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

1933
01:29:32,173 --> 01:29:35,013
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on

1934
01:29:35,213 --> 01:29:35,652
Speaker 1: news talk.

1935
01:29:35,772 --> 01:29:38,852
Speaker 3: Z'd be very good afternoons you it is twenty five

1936
01:29:39,093 --> 01:29:41,892
Speaker 3: past three. So we're talking about almost or getting into

1937
01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:45,012
Speaker 3: trouble overseas. Is on the back of m fat figures

1938
01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:50,412
Speaker 3: that show seventy kiwis currently are imprisoned in another country internationally,

1939
01:29:50,732 --> 01:29:52,852
Speaker 3: but they think the figure could be far higher because

1940
01:29:52,853 --> 01:29:55,333
Speaker 3: a lot of people who get themselves into strife overseas

1941
01:29:55,572 --> 01:29:58,612
Speaker 3: don't actually tell the government until things get really hairy.

1942
01:29:59,333 --> 01:30:02,412
Speaker 3: So if you've ever been in trouble overseas, whether it

1943
01:30:02,532 --> 01:30:05,372
Speaker 3: was a misunderstanding, you forgot to bribe the right person,

1944
01:30:05,452 --> 01:30:07,812
Speaker 3: it was a customs incident, share your story well.

1945
01:30:07,853 --> 01:30:09,652
Speaker 2: It's funny. You should stay bribing because listen to the

1946
01:30:09,692 --> 01:30:12,372
Speaker 2: sticks here. Got caught with some illegal stuff in Thailand.

1947
01:30:12,893 --> 01:30:15,333
Speaker 2: That sort of illegal stuff, it's dangerous. Put in the van,

1948
01:30:16,133 --> 01:30:18,692
Speaker 2: not sure what kind of van. They pulled over and

1949
01:30:18,812 --> 01:30:21,412
Speaker 2: asked how much money I had stopped at the money

1950
01:30:21,452 --> 01:30:26,133
Speaker 2: machine equivy of five hundred New Zealand. So I guess

1951
01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:28,213
Speaker 2: equivalent of five hundred New Zealand and got dropped back

1952
01:30:28,253 --> 01:30:31,652
Speaker 2: at the beach. Was scary. Once the cop had the money,

1953
01:30:31,692 --> 01:30:34,772
Speaker 2: they were very friendly. So I was suggest bribing before

1954
01:30:34,812 --> 01:30:40,213
Speaker 2: you get back to the station. So as bribing the

1955
01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:44,013
Speaker 2: way to go, because what you know, like if you

1956
01:30:44,093 --> 01:30:45,933
Speaker 2: try to bribe a police officer in New Zealand, right

1957
01:30:46,412 --> 01:30:47,732
Speaker 2: then you whatever you're done wrong?

1958
01:30:47,812 --> 01:30:50,532
Speaker 3: You then have you got another couple of charges on.

1959
01:30:52,053 --> 01:30:56,173
Speaker 2: We probably have the least corrupt police, you know, police

1960
01:30:56,213 --> 01:30:58,612
Speaker 2: force in the world. Yeah, New Zealand might be the

1961
01:30:58,652 --> 01:31:00,612
Speaker 2: worst place to try and bribe a police officer on

1962
01:31:00,652 --> 01:31:01,692
Speaker 2: planet Earth, right Yeah.

1963
01:31:01,812 --> 01:31:02,012
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1964
01:31:02,173 --> 01:31:04,052
Speaker 3: I've always wondered that though, that if you get yourself

1965
01:31:04,053 --> 01:31:06,812
Speaker 3: in trouble, say Thailand, for example, and you want to

1966
01:31:06,853 --> 01:31:09,372
Speaker 3: give the bribe a shot, they pulled you over, and

1967
01:31:09,452 --> 01:31:11,293
Speaker 3: it's starting to get a bit herey, What do you

1968
01:31:11,372 --> 01:31:12,253
Speaker 3: say at that point?

1969
01:31:12,492 --> 01:31:12,652
Speaker 2: Then?

1970
01:31:12,732 --> 01:31:15,732
Speaker 3: Do you just be upfront and say, hey, would a

1971
01:31:15,853 --> 01:31:19,932
Speaker 3: thousand barts solve whatever's going on here? I mean, it's

1972
01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:21,652
Speaker 3: a hell of a gamble, as you say, because I'm

1973
01:31:21,692 --> 01:31:24,213
Speaker 3: sure some police officers in Thailand will take that bribe.

1974
01:31:24,293 --> 01:31:27,333
Speaker 3: Some will say, how dare you? You're definitely going into

1975
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:30,253
Speaker 3: the slammer. Now, well do you say, I mean, how

1976
01:31:30,492 --> 01:31:32,333
Speaker 3: do you set up a bribe? Because I hear in

1977
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:35,492
Speaker 3: Russia that and Brazil bribing is the way to go.

1978
01:31:36,293 --> 01:31:39,173
Speaker 2: I hear this. I don't know, But do you say,

1979
01:31:40,692 --> 01:31:45,973
Speaker 2: is there anything I could do to make this all disappears?

1980
01:31:45,973 --> 01:31:47,412
Speaker 2: Start with that? How do you raise it? You don't

1981
01:31:47,452 --> 01:31:50,013
Speaker 2: raise it specifically by handing over them trying to hand

1982
01:31:50,013 --> 01:31:53,132
Speaker 2: over money. Yeah? Maybe, hey, boys. Back in the late nineties,

1983
01:31:53,213 --> 01:31:55,972
Speaker 2: I was living and working in Moscow, says this Texter John.

1984
01:31:56,372 --> 01:32:01,053
Speaker 2: As a foreigner, I was regularly stopped by police for

1985
01:32:01,372 --> 01:32:03,852
Speaker 2: a document check, and we were required to carry what

1986
01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:07,812
Speaker 2: was essentially an internal passport. One afternoon, myself in a

1987
01:32:07,893 --> 01:32:11,692
Speaker 2: key colleague popped up onto the street from one on

1988
01:32:11,853 --> 01:32:15,052
Speaker 2: the underground track from one of the underground train stations

1989
01:32:15,492 --> 01:32:17,852
Speaker 2: we were heading to a market when we were stopped

1990
01:32:17,853 --> 01:32:20,013
Speaker 2: by the police for one of those document checks. The

1991
01:32:20,093 --> 01:32:22,492
Speaker 2: outcome as my mate had forgotten his documents and they

1992
01:32:22,532 --> 01:32:25,053
Speaker 2: didn't believe mine were legit, so we were bundled into

1993
01:32:25,093 --> 01:32:27,372
Speaker 2: a police van and driven off to the local police station.

1994
01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:30,652
Speaker 2: Man that would be scary. Without any registration, name check

1995
01:32:30,732 --> 01:32:33,772
Speaker 2: or opportunity for a bribe, a common practice with Russian police,

1996
01:32:34,093 --> 01:32:36,892
Speaker 2: we were taken straight to the cells and pushed into

1997
01:32:36,893 --> 01:32:39,412
Speaker 2: a three meter by three meter cell with about fifteen

1998
01:32:39,492 --> 01:32:42,972
Speaker 2: other guys in locked up. If anything I know about

1999
01:32:43,053 --> 01:32:46,452
Speaker 2: the Russian criminals, they're terrifying. But I'm getting that money

2000
01:32:46,492 --> 01:32:50,093
Speaker 2: from the Equaloser movies and the John Wick movies. All

2001
01:32:50,173 --> 01:32:52,732
Speaker 2: in all quite surreal. It was like something out of

2002
01:32:52,812 --> 01:32:54,892
Speaker 2: a movie and the guard walking up and down, running

2003
01:32:54,933 --> 01:32:57,013
Speaker 2: his keys along the bars of the cell well at

2004
01:32:57,013 --> 01:32:58,893
Speaker 2: the same time checking who was in the cell and

2005
01:32:58,973 --> 01:33:02,093
Speaker 2: asking questions. There were three guys from Blangladesh and he

2006
01:33:02,173 --> 01:33:05,052
Speaker 2: asked if they had a ridden their elephant to Russia.

2007
01:33:05,412 --> 01:33:07,932
Speaker 2: He asked where we were from, and when we said

2008
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:10,133
Speaker 2: New zeal And, he asked if we had any anchor

2009
01:33:10,213 --> 01:33:12,732
Speaker 2: butter a well known you seal brand and Russia at

2010
01:33:12,732 --> 01:33:15,732
Speaker 2: the time. Anyway, after about three hours we were let out,

2011
01:33:15,812 --> 01:33:18,093
Speaker 2: no charge, nothing, all very bizarre, but they were just

2012
01:33:18,173 --> 01:33:22,933
Speaker 2: teaching some stupid foreigners a lesson. Cheers John, That's terrifying.

2013
01:33:23,013 --> 01:33:25,213
Speaker 3: I mean, if you ever go to Russia, maybe pack

2014
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:26,892
Speaker 3: some anchor butter with you just in cage.

2015
01:33:26,933 --> 01:33:29,013
Speaker 2: It sounds like a good bride option. That would be

2016
01:33:29,133 --> 01:33:32,253
Speaker 2: a long three hours and a three x three meter

2017
01:33:32,452 --> 01:33:35,812
Speaker 2: cell in Russia with fifteen other guys. That is terrifying.

2018
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:38,532
Speaker 2: That is terrifying. What goes through your head in that situation.

2019
01:33:38,853 --> 01:33:41,732
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2020
01:33:41,812 --> 01:33:45,932
Speaker 3: to call. So if you've gotten too trouble overseas, share

2021
01:33:46,013 --> 01:33:49,053
Speaker 3: your story. Nine two ninety two is the text as well.

2022
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:51,053
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through until we'll get to a

2023
01:33:51,093 --> 01:33:55,132
Speaker 3: few of those very shortly. It is twenty nine past three. Rubbish,

2024
01:33:55,173 --> 01:33:57,852
Speaker 3: you muppets. The New Zealand police forces the most corrupt

2025
01:33:57,893 --> 01:33:58,372
Speaker 3: in the world.

2026
01:33:58,532 --> 01:34:01,692
Speaker 2: Now there is a texter that has not traveled exactly.

2027
01:34:01,853 --> 01:34:04,293
Speaker 2: It is bang on up ours three headlines with Wendy

2028
01:34:04,372 --> 01:34:04,812
Speaker 2: coming up.

2029
01:34:06,253 --> 01:34:10,172
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2030
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2031
01:34:14,452 --> 01:34:17,172
Speaker 15: cuts will make it harder to roll out July's healthcare

2032
01:34:17,412 --> 01:34:21,173
Speaker 15: U turn, which devolves decision making on staffing, budgets and

2033
01:34:21,372 --> 01:34:25,652
Speaker 15: service delivery to local hospital teams. Food prices rose four

2034
01:34:25,732 --> 01:34:28,852
Speaker 15: point five percent in the past year. Stakes are blocks

2035
01:34:28,893 --> 01:34:32,492
Speaker 15: of chocolate and mince all up twenty percent, but olive

2036
01:34:32,532 --> 01:34:36,652
Speaker 15: oil stayed the same amount. Domestic airfares rose almost eleven percent,

2037
01:34:36,772 --> 01:34:40,532
Speaker 15: in electricity and gas more than thirteen Labour's leader has

2038
01:34:40,532 --> 01:34:43,173
Speaker 15: spoken to media at Wellington Airport for the first time

2039
01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:46,893
Speaker 15: since his ex wife posted allegations now deleted on a

2040
01:34:47,013 --> 01:34:50,772
Speaker 15: private Facebook page. Grssipkins says it's a private matter and

2041
01:34:50,853 --> 01:34:53,532
Speaker 15: he believes his job is safe. He'll hold a press

2042
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:58,092
Speaker 15: conference later today. State Highway one is closed ad Dormit

2043
01:34:58,213 --> 01:35:01,852
Speaker 15: between christ Church and Caiicolda after a four vehicle crash

2044
01:35:02,013 --> 01:35:06,372
Speaker 15: that's left too seriously injured. Naper City Council has voted

2045
01:35:06,372 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 15: in its third Deputy mayor in less than a month

2046
01:35:08,732 --> 01:35:12,932
Speaker 15: after two earlier appointments by Mayor Richard McGrath. Graham Taylor

2047
01:35:13,173 --> 01:35:16,293
Speaker 15: now has the job. Plus a West Pact shakes up

2048
01:35:16,333 --> 01:35:20,093
Speaker 15: advertising agencies model with new bespoke company Seymore At ends

2049
01:35:20,093 --> 01:35:21,052
Speaker 15: at Herald premium.

2050
01:35:21,253 --> 01:35:22,452
Speaker 2: Now back to Matton Tyler.

2051
01:35:22,612 --> 01:35:23,412
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

2052
01:35:23,452 --> 01:35:23,732
Speaker 2: Wendy.

2053
01:35:23,732 --> 01:35:26,372
Speaker 3: So we're talking about the time that you almost got

2054
01:35:26,412 --> 01:35:28,333
Speaker 3: into some serious trouble overseas.

2055
01:35:28,692 --> 01:35:31,852
Speaker 2: You just got told off, Tyler by a journalism legend

2056
01:35:31,933 --> 01:35:35,053
Speaker 2: of the country, Kay Gregory, a person that we use

2057
01:35:36,053 --> 01:35:37,652
Speaker 2: the studio of in Hamilton last week.

2058
01:35:37,732 --> 01:35:40,652
Speaker 3: That's right, we were in Kay Gregory's studio and we

2059
01:35:40,692 --> 01:35:41,532
Speaker 3: saw her, Mike sock.

2060
01:35:41,612 --> 01:35:41,732
Speaker 9: Kay.

2061
01:35:41,772 --> 01:35:43,213
Speaker 3: We didn't touch it, by the way, Matt one and

2062
01:35:43,293 --> 01:35:44,812
Speaker 3: too and I told him, don't you dare touch that?

2063
01:35:45,013 --> 01:35:47,213
Speaker 2: Her text is what is m fat? Don't assume we

2064
01:35:47,253 --> 01:35:51,293
Speaker 2: all know? Yes, Tyler, So you're throwing out your acronyms

2065
01:35:51,333 --> 01:35:55,093
Speaker 2: like your BEV and your EV and you're HEV before

2066
01:35:55,213 --> 01:35:55,932
Speaker 2: what is m fat?

2067
01:35:56,253 --> 01:35:59,052
Speaker 3: Em FAD is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in trade

2068
01:35:59,133 --> 01:36:01,133
Speaker 3: and good on your k that is journalism one o one.

2069
01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:04,133
Speaker 3: Never assume that people know what an acronym stands for.

2070
01:36:04,772 --> 01:36:06,293
Speaker 3: So that's why she's the best in the bizz.

2071
01:36:06,532 --> 01:36:08,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. I would say, has you heard of a

2072
01:36:08,732 --> 01:36:09,293
Speaker 2: question mark?

2073
01:36:09,412 --> 01:36:09,692
Speaker 5: What is?

2074
01:36:09,772 --> 01:36:11,372
Speaker 2: In fact? There's no question mart Man.

2075
01:36:12,133 --> 01:36:16,133
Speaker 3: Thank you for your TEXTK love your work. Daniel. Can

2076
01:36:16,213 --> 01:36:20,532
Speaker 3: you hear your story? How are you yeah, yeah, being

2077
01:36:20,652 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 3: here's no sunny day, nice good place.

2078
01:36:23,732 --> 01:36:25,492
Speaker 10: Yeah it is a hey sa.

2079
01:36:25,812 --> 01:36:27,293
Speaker 6: I look, I've had a few travels and a few

2080
01:36:27,333 --> 01:36:30,652
Speaker 6: different encounters, but this one, this one is not so

2081
01:36:30,732 --> 01:36:31,253
Speaker 6: much of the law.

2082
01:36:31,492 --> 01:36:32,612
Speaker 10: But maybe it could have been.

2083
01:36:33,213 --> 01:36:35,932
Speaker 6: There's only maybe fifteen. I was traveling with my parents

2084
01:36:35,933 --> 01:36:40,732
Speaker 6: at Lombok and we we hired some mopeds to go

2085
01:36:40,812 --> 01:36:42,812
Speaker 6: to a local beach that was supposed to be quite good.

2086
01:36:42,853 --> 01:36:47,932
Speaker 6: But the out said to us, don't go through the shortcut.

2087
01:36:48,053 --> 01:36:50,412
Speaker 6: He showed us from the map, don't go to the shortcut. No, no, no,

2088
01:36:50,572 --> 01:36:52,253
Speaker 6: go up to this town and all the way back down.

2089
01:36:53,093 --> 01:36:54,973
Speaker 6: So we did that because that's what he said. But

2090
01:36:55,213 --> 01:36:57,412
Speaker 6: there was such a long haul come the way back.

2091
01:36:57,452 --> 01:37:02,133
Speaker 6: We said this go to shortcuts. So my parents were

2092
01:37:02,173 --> 01:37:02,612
Speaker 6: in front of me.

2093
01:37:02,652 --> 01:37:05,812
Speaker 16: I was the back, and we're going across this little

2094
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:11,933
Speaker 16: money sort of shortcut track and these locals started sprinting

2095
01:37:12,333 --> 01:37:14,612
Speaker 16: at like the cross points of where we're with me

2096
01:37:15,933 --> 01:37:23,333
Speaker 16: and a pitchfork hit my red tire. Oh it was

2097
01:37:23,412 --> 01:37:26,253
Speaker 16: a scary clost call. When we holed it there, there

2098
01:37:26,293 --> 01:37:27,812
Speaker 16: were spend We saw them running.

2099
01:37:27,853 --> 01:37:30,412
Speaker 10: We were front and we're glad we.

2100
01:37:30,412 --> 01:37:31,652
Speaker 6: Made it past them. I don't know what the heck

2101
01:37:31,692 --> 01:37:32,133
Speaker 6: was did wrong?

2102
01:37:32,213 --> 01:37:33,412
Speaker 12: But we're supposed to be there.

2103
01:37:35,053 --> 01:37:37,213
Speaker 3: I mean, that is scary having the locals come after

2104
01:37:37,213 --> 01:37:39,333
Speaker 3: you with pitchfork. So have you got any inklean on

2105
01:37:39,452 --> 01:37:41,692
Speaker 3: why they were so furious with you? There must have

2106
01:37:41,732 --> 01:37:44,053
Speaker 3: been something that you did, or it's just some obscure

2107
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:46,612
Speaker 3: cultural thing that you just don't know.

2108
01:37:47,572 --> 01:37:49,612
Speaker 16: There were no gates, there's no signage.

2109
01:37:51,293 --> 01:37:53,572
Speaker 6: I've always only thought maybe trucks some kind.

2110
01:37:53,692 --> 01:37:55,012
Speaker 1: But I heart knows.

2111
01:37:56,412 --> 01:37:58,652
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you've got out of life. Yeah, locals

2112
01:37:58,692 --> 01:37:59,373
Speaker 2: with the pitchforks.

2113
01:37:59,452 --> 01:38:03,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those teachs coming through. On nine to nine

2114
01:38:03,812 --> 01:38:06,452
Speaker 3: to two, a couple of people mentioned, and I didn't

2115
01:38:06,492 --> 01:38:10,132
Speaker 3: know this, that when you get it's in a tricky situation,

2116
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:13,133
Speaker 3: instead of a bribe, you just say can I pay

2117
01:38:13,133 --> 01:38:15,732
Speaker 3: an instant fine? Instead a well known thing, is there

2118
01:38:15,772 --> 01:38:17,652
Speaker 3: an instant fine I can pay to get myself out

2119
01:38:17,652 --> 01:38:17,812
Speaker 3: of this?

2120
01:38:17,973 --> 01:38:19,852
Speaker 2: Never offer a bribe in any country instead of ask

2121
01:38:19,893 --> 01:38:22,812
Speaker 2: if there is an instant fine? Says this texting, followed

2122
01:38:22,853 --> 01:38:26,612
Speaker 2: by I'm happy to pay right now. See because see

2123
01:38:26,652 --> 01:38:29,892
Speaker 2: that's a way that you're saying. You're not actually directly

2124
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:33,293
Speaker 2: saying you're bribing, So you're not really committing another crime

2125
01:38:33,772 --> 01:38:37,412
Speaker 2: and you're giving the police officer or then whoever is

2126
01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:42,372
Speaker 2: resting you and out. Yeah, so they can either say

2127
01:38:42,492 --> 01:38:46,253
Speaker 2: use or no. Because if you say, hey, mate, take

2128
01:38:46,293 --> 01:38:48,893
Speaker 2: me to a money machine, too grand, this disappears, I

2129
01:38:49,173 --> 01:38:51,572
Speaker 2: sort you out, drop me back at the ACM, buy

2130
01:38:51,652 --> 01:38:55,932
Speaker 2: the miss is something nice? You know that that's too risky,

2131
01:38:56,053 --> 01:38:58,333
Speaker 2: right you say, hey, I don't know how things work

2132
01:38:58,372 --> 01:39:02,173
Speaker 2: in this country, but back home in New Zealand, we

2133
01:39:02,333 --> 01:39:06,372
Speaker 2: just pay an instant fine. And does that work? You're

2134
01:39:06,372 --> 01:39:08,812
Speaker 2: an instant cash fine because that's how things do New Zealand.

2135
01:39:08,853 --> 01:39:10,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very subtle. And then if there's two cops,

2136
01:39:10,973 --> 01:39:12,293
Speaker 3: he goes and talks to his mate and say, hey,

2137
01:39:12,333 --> 01:39:13,852
Speaker 3: this foreigner wants to pay an instant fine.

2138
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:17,012
Speaker 2: How much would we charge him? In Moscow, pri Jelson,

2139
01:39:17,093 --> 01:39:20,053
Speaker 2: we weren't pulled over for bringing in hath oh. We

2140
01:39:20,492 --> 01:39:23,253
Speaker 2: luckily there and found the police to be useful taxi

2141
01:39:23,372 --> 01:39:26,093
Speaker 2: when paid. I got busted for weed at Gatwick. Once

2142
01:39:26,333 --> 01:39:29,732
Speaker 2: arrested in Jibuti, Jibuti for trying to break into the

2143
01:39:29,853 --> 01:39:33,852
Speaker 2: palace money talked again, persons of minutes, what.

2144
01:39:33,853 --> 01:39:36,213
Speaker 3: Are you trying to break into the bellers for let's

2145
01:39:36,213 --> 01:39:40,053
Speaker 3: go to Paul Geto. Paul, Yeah, very good. So you

2146
01:39:40,253 --> 01:39:43,172
Speaker 3: were locked up in Italy back in the nineties.

2147
01:39:44,053 --> 01:39:44,973
Speaker 6: I was, I was.

2148
01:39:45,412 --> 01:39:48,412
Speaker 5: I had we experience. I was doing some work some

2149
01:39:48,692 --> 01:39:52,133
Speaker 5: car guys and ended up in Modern and on the

2150
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:56,572
Speaker 5: way back I had to drive with the owner and

2151
01:39:56,732 --> 01:40:00,852
Speaker 5: Aston Martin vi advantage, and you know, we ended up

2152
01:40:00,893 --> 01:40:04,692
Speaker 5: heading towards Switzerland to pick up some stuff and going

2153
01:40:04,772 --> 01:40:06,133
Speaker 5: up to the mon Blanc and it's a bit of

2154
01:40:06,133 --> 01:40:07,772
Speaker 5: a sort of a road going up there. In a

2155
01:40:07,812 --> 01:40:11,452
Speaker 5: bit of a switch facts of the scenario. Anyhow, he says,

2156
01:40:11,492 --> 01:40:15,532
Speaker 5: go and give it some So I did and gave

2157
01:40:15,572 --> 01:40:19,812
Speaker 5: it plenty. So anyhow, unfortunately, well neither of us knew.

2158
01:40:20,372 --> 01:40:22,333
Speaker 5: Right at the top of the hill he was the

2159
01:40:22,412 --> 01:40:27,652
Speaker 5: local consabatary and they stopped us and jumped out in

2160
01:40:27,692 --> 01:40:29,412
Speaker 5: front of us, and I got pulled out of the

2161
01:40:29,492 --> 01:40:32,372
Speaker 5: car and cuffed straight away and faced down on the

2162
01:40:32,412 --> 01:40:37,572
Speaker 5: bonnet spread. Who was the owner of this particular car.

2163
01:40:38,133 --> 01:40:40,213
Speaker 5: It was a pretty loud mouse. He would have probably

2164
01:40:40,253 --> 01:40:45,452
Speaker 5: been late twenties at the time. I guess pretty come

2165
01:40:45,492 --> 01:40:49,692
Speaker 5: from a wealthy English background, Yobo, I guess you could

2166
01:40:49,732 --> 01:40:53,293
Speaker 5: pull them. And so anyhow, he started to turn around

2167
01:40:53,333 --> 01:40:57,173
Speaker 5: and try and bribe these guys, these police. Not a

2168
01:40:57,213 --> 01:41:02,732
Speaker 5: great idea really that the next situation was he then

2169
01:41:02,772 --> 01:41:06,053
Speaker 5: turned around and started arguing, and I was flew into

2170
01:41:06,692 --> 01:41:09,092
Speaker 5: you know, I had a little bit of the French, certainly,

2171
01:41:09,133 --> 01:41:12,932
Speaker 5: not Italian or German, but he started arguing in every

2172
01:41:12,973 --> 01:41:16,852
Speaker 5: single language that he could he could get hold of. Yeah,

2173
01:41:16,893 --> 01:41:20,892
Speaker 5: long story short, we ended up inside for a couple

2174
01:41:20,933 --> 01:41:23,692
Speaker 5: of days, for three nights, I think I sent in

2175
01:41:23,732 --> 01:41:26,652
Speaker 5: there and and to this day I still don't know

2176
01:41:26,812 --> 01:41:30,012
Speaker 5: quite what happened how he got out, but his lawyer

2177
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:35,093
Speaker 5: flew over and did some deal and the next thing

2178
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:35,932
Speaker 5: we were on our way.

2179
01:41:36,372 --> 01:41:39,293
Speaker 2: So so you were included. So obviously, as you say,

2180
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:41,372
Speaker 2: this guy has got a bit of money, a bit

2181
01:41:41,452 --> 01:41:45,133
Speaker 2: of a bit of a posh feller and over. But

2182
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:47,372
Speaker 2: but threw you in on the mix, thankfully in terms

2183
01:41:47,412 --> 01:41:47,973
Speaker 2: of the trying to.

2184
01:41:47,973 --> 01:41:50,053
Speaker 5: Get out, Yeah, that was part of the deal.

2185
01:41:50,173 --> 01:41:53,772
Speaker 3: So really it sounded like Fred He was yappy and

2186
01:41:53,853 --> 01:41:55,692
Speaker 3: then and then he got you into stripe by trying

2187
01:41:55,692 --> 01:41:58,092
Speaker 3: to bribe Italian police officers at the least.

2188
01:41:57,893 --> 01:41:58,213
Speaker 2: He could do.

2189
01:41:59,612 --> 01:42:02,893
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Yeah, that was one of probably several adventures that

2190
01:42:02,933 --> 01:42:04,333
Speaker 5: I had with that particular guy.

2191
01:42:05,372 --> 01:42:07,293
Speaker 2: How are you feeling? How are you feeling When you

2192
01:42:07,372 --> 01:42:09,492
Speaker 2: were in the in the South, we always confident that

2193
01:42:09,652 --> 01:42:12,412
Speaker 2: things were going to be okay or were you Were

2194
01:42:12,452 --> 01:42:14,052
Speaker 2: you going to sleep at night? Pretty worried.

2195
01:42:14,812 --> 01:42:19,173
Speaker 5: I felt very alone. To this day, my mum my

2196
01:42:19,293 --> 01:42:22,013
Speaker 5: dad's passed that. My mum doesn't know this, and she

2197
01:42:22,053 --> 01:42:24,213
Speaker 5: won't be listening to this this. I know that for

2198
01:42:24,293 --> 01:42:27,412
Speaker 5: a fact, there'll be a few people that know this

2199
01:42:27,532 --> 01:42:31,372
Speaker 5: story and know the particular person that I'm talking about,

2200
01:42:31,372 --> 01:42:35,253
Speaker 5: because he's still a little bit high profile right over

2201
01:42:35,293 --> 01:42:35,973
Speaker 5: in Europe.

2202
01:42:35,772 --> 01:42:39,293
Speaker 2: Professional rugby play by the sounds of things, not quite

2203
01:42:39,412 --> 01:42:42,093
Speaker 2: but yeah, a member of the royal family. It wasn't and.

2204
01:42:44,133 --> 01:42:45,572
Speaker 5: It was nothing to do with Andrew.

2205
01:42:48,532 --> 01:42:50,692
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got out, but I can only imagine

2206
01:42:50,732 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 2: how you're feeling when you're in a you know, you're overseas,

2207
01:42:54,253 --> 01:42:55,812
Speaker 2: you're trying to experience things and you end up in

2208
01:42:55,853 --> 01:42:58,812
Speaker 2: a cell. You've lost your freedom. I mean terrifying, right.

2209
01:42:59,293 --> 01:43:02,173
Speaker 5: Oh, it was, absolutely it was. I really had no

2210
01:43:02,293 --> 01:43:04,093
Speaker 5: idea what the outcome was going to be and how

2211
01:43:04,133 --> 01:43:06,973
Speaker 5: long was it's going to be in there. So it

2212
01:43:07,253 --> 01:43:10,492
Speaker 5: certainly makes you think about things and and make better

2213
01:43:10,652 --> 01:43:11,933
Speaker 5: choices in the future.

2214
01:43:11,893 --> 01:43:13,932
Speaker 3: They do they look after you? In the Italian prison,

2215
01:43:14,013 --> 01:43:14,492
Speaker 3: was it okay?

2216
01:43:15,333 --> 01:43:18,052
Speaker 5: They were very good? There were some fairly interesting roommates,

2217
01:43:19,133 --> 01:43:22,293
Speaker 5: but in general they were pretty good because they knew

2218
01:43:22,452 --> 01:43:26,893
Speaker 5: that they there would have been some fairly interesting some

2219
01:43:27,053 --> 01:43:28,253
Speaker 5: heat on them. Put it that way.

2220
01:43:28,452 --> 01:43:30,653
Speaker 2: Good Italian food in the prison.

2221
01:43:32,053 --> 01:43:35,173
Speaker 3: Not quite No, it was no real scallopini or spag

2222
01:43:35,253 --> 01:43:36,972
Speaker 3: bowl cup soups.

2223
01:43:37,133 --> 01:43:37,492
Speaker 5: Almost.

2224
01:43:38,253 --> 01:43:41,293
Speaker 2: Can you give us any other clue about this? I'm

2225
01:43:41,333 --> 01:43:44,372
Speaker 2: intrigued who this gentleman was. Now you you're a British man.

2226
01:43:45,412 --> 01:43:46,852
Speaker 5: No, I can't. I can't do that.

2227
01:43:47,412 --> 01:43:48,772
Speaker 3: We'll ring you off here about that.

2228
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:51,013
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you off. You could trust us, you

2229
01:43:51,053 --> 01:43:51,652
Speaker 2: can trust us.

2230
01:43:52,173 --> 01:43:53,692
Speaker 3: Thanks you cool, Paul, Thank.

2231
01:43:53,532 --> 01:43:54,093
Speaker 2: You very much.

2232
01:43:54,133 --> 01:43:56,652
Speaker 3: What a great story. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty

2233
01:43:57,093 --> 01:43:59,012
Speaker 3: You never put your pass what through the wash overseas

2234
01:43:59,093 --> 01:44:02,012
Speaker 3: is Texter China? Specifically, that landed me in the crap.

2235
01:44:02,093 --> 01:44:04,173
Speaker 3: They thought I was a drug smuggling traveling on a

2236
01:44:04,173 --> 01:44:07,253
Speaker 3: stolen passport. I got the rubber glove treatment there and

2237
01:44:07,333 --> 01:44:09,972
Speaker 3: also back home. Took five hours, but they finally believe

2238
01:44:10,013 --> 01:44:13,532
Speaker 3: that I'm just an idiot from that's from Taylor. Great tix,

2239
01:44:13,612 --> 01:44:16,293
Speaker 3: Keep those teas coming through. On nine to ninety two, we.

2240
01:44:16,372 --> 01:44:18,772
Speaker 2: Were held in a police sell in the Czech Republic

2241
01:44:18,853 --> 01:44:20,852
Speaker 2: for a day following a big night where my mate

2242
01:44:20,893 --> 01:44:23,452
Speaker 2: and I had allegedly kicked a taxi after dropping us

2243
01:44:23,492 --> 01:44:26,053
Speaker 2: in the wrong place. It's quite amusing until we were

2244
01:44:26,133 --> 01:44:28,293
Speaker 2: stripped to our undies and left for a few hours.

2245
01:44:28,692 --> 01:44:32,333
Speaker 2: We were then interrogated through a hopeless interpreter, which took

2246
01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:34,732
Speaker 2: another few hours to resolve. Upshop We paid five hundred

2247
01:44:34,772 --> 01:44:36,772
Speaker 2: quid each, a lot of money for backpackers in ninety

2248
01:44:36,812 --> 01:44:39,213
Speaker 2: ninety eight a bit, and we were released around eight

2249
01:44:39,293 --> 01:44:42,372
Speaker 2: pm when straight to Macas. Never tasted better.

2250
01:44:42,973 --> 01:44:46,293
Speaker 3: Good result gas, great tigs, keep those coming at nine

2251
01:44:46,412 --> 01:44:48,412
Speaker 3: two ninety two. But tell us your story. Oh eight

2252
01:44:48,532 --> 01:44:51,692
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty Have you almost got into

2253
01:44:51,732 --> 01:44:53,892
Speaker 3: serious trouble when traveling abroad?

2254
01:44:53,973 --> 01:44:54,772
Speaker 2: It is seventy to.

2255
01:44:54,812 --> 01:44:59,452
Speaker 1: Four Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons taking your calls

2256
01:44:59,532 --> 01:45:02,132
Speaker 1: on Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with Skoda,

2257
01:45:02,333 --> 01:45:04,852
Speaker 1: can you crag the goat? Please go toa codes every

2258
01:45:04,933 --> 01:45:06,372
Speaker 1: day news talks, they'd.

2259
01:45:06,213 --> 01:45:07,133
Speaker 2: Be fourteen to four.

2260
01:45:07,253 --> 01:45:09,812
Speaker 3: We're talking about almost getting into who actually getting into

2261
01:45:09,853 --> 01:45:12,572
Speaker 3: trouble overseas, but almost getting locked up banged up abroad.

2262
01:45:12,612 --> 01:45:14,772
Speaker 3: There's a couple of teachs coming in, Matt. You mentioned

2263
01:45:14,812 --> 01:45:17,852
Speaker 3: earlier in the program match you almost got locked up

2264
01:45:18,013 --> 01:45:21,852
Speaker 3: while in a trip over in Los Angeles. Are you

2265
01:45:21,853 --> 01:45:22,652
Speaker 3: going to tell that story?

2266
01:45:23,053 --> 01:45:23,093
Speaker 12: No?

2267
01:45:23,253 --> 01:45:26,732
Speaker 2: I don't think so, Okay, No, just mulled over. All

2268
01:45:26,772 --> 01:45:28,973
Speaker 2: I'll say is we were shooting a stunt on the

2269
01:45:29,053 --> 01:45:32,293
Speaker 2: Hollywood Sign, but we hadn't got any permission or permits

2270
01:45:32,572 --> 01:45:34,173
Speaker 2: for a TV show called Back of the Way. Goes

2271
01:45:34,213 --> 01:45:36,973
Speaker 2: to Hollywood jumping off the back of the y on

2272
01:45:37,133 --> 01:45:40,452
Speaker 2: the sign and the Hollywood sign and helicopter comes past,

2273
01:45:40,492 --> 01:45:44,452
Speaker 2: police helicopter and the you know, the loud speaker goes

2274
01:45:45,652 --> 01:45:48,012
Speaker 2: get away from the sign or you will go to jail.

2275
01:45:48,652 --> 01:45:51,333
Speaker 2: And then boy, we got guns pulled on us down

2276
01:45:51,372 --> 01:45:53,732
Speaker 2: at the Santa Monica Pier as well shooting stunts for

2277
01:45:53,772 --> 01:45:55,932
Speaker 2: that show. Anyway, thatpshot of that is, if you're shooting

2278
01:45:56,532 --> 01:46:00,772
Speaker 2: dangerous stunts in Los Angeles, don't bother getting a permit.

2279
01:46:00,893 --> 01:46:01,173
Speaker 13: Just run.

2280
01:46:02,253 --> 01:46:03,333
Speaker 3: What a trip that was for you?

2281
01:46:03,452 --> 01:46:04,372
Speaker 2: Makee kiddo? Barbara?

2282
01:46:05,093 --> 01:46:09,213
Speaker 18: Oh good hight. So guys, Yeah, I did some relief

2283
01:46:09,293 --> 01:46:13,012
Speaker 18: work over and in the war zone in Bosnia and Croatia,

2284
01:46:13,612 --> 01:46:16,012
Speaker 18: and we had a team working for an aid agency

2285
01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:19,652
Speaker 18: over there, and we got locked up three times, and

2286
01:46:20,732 --> 01:46:23,173
Speaker 18: it was pretty hairy because you know, the border guards

2287
01:46:23,213 --> 01:46:26,772
Speaker 18: were pretty nasty and we had a we had a

2288
01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:29,612
Speaker 18: hot water cylinder in the boot of our car because

2289
01:46:29,652 --> 01:46:32,452
Speaker 18: we had to take it through to the the place

2290
01:46:32,492 --> 01:46:35,412
Speaker 18: where the refugees were, and these guys thought it was

2291
01:46:35,452 --> 01:46:38,852
Speaker 18: a bomb. So they dragged us all out of the

2292
01:46:38,933 --> 01:46:42,412
Speaker 18: car and stuck a rifle in our ear and wanted

2293
01:46:42,452 --> 01:46:44,972
Speaker 18: to know what the heck was and how to explain

2294
01:46:45,053 --> 01:46:47,652
Speaker 18: how it worked. Well, we didn't really know how it

2295
01:46:47,732 --> 01:46:49,412
Speaker 18: worked because we were just taking it over there to

2296
01:46:49,452 --> 01:46:49,892
Speaker 18: have it set.

2297
01:46:51,452 --> 01:46:52,133
Speaker 2: The ins and outs of it.

2298
01:46:53,213 --> 01:46:55,572
Speaker 18: There was a big, big round cylinder, looked like a

2299
01:46:55,652 --> 01:46:58,053
Speaker 18: water heater, and they thought it was a bomb. And

2300
01:46:58,173 --> 01:47:00,652
Speaker 18: of course, with the war going on, you know, you

2301
01:47:00,772 --> 01:47:03,372
Speaker 18: can't be too careful. And then when I was heading

2302
01:47:03,412 --> 01:47:06,572
Speaker 18: home from from Bosnia, when i'd finish my stunt there,

2303
01:47:07,213 --> 01:47:09,772
Speaker 18: I stopped off at Row to have a look around

2304
01:47:10,333 --> 01:47:12,892
Speaker 18: and I asked him if I could leave my luggage

2305
01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:15,412
Speaker 18: in the office until I till my train went you know,

2306
01:47:16,173 --> 01:47:19,173
Speaker 18: and the guy in the office said yes, yes, yes,

2307
01:47:19,532 --> 01:47:21,612
Speaker 18: and then he locked me in the office and said,

2308
01:47:21,652 --> 01:47:23,772
Speaker 18: if you don't pay some more money for your luggage,

2309
01:47:24,093 --> 01:47:25,812
Speaker 18: you won't get it back and you won't get home.

2310
01:47:27,213 --> 01:47:30,133
Speaker 18: So I said, well, I'll call the police. And as

2311
01:47:30,173 --> 01:47:32,973
Speaker 18: soon as I mentioned police, he after while he let

2312
01:47:33,053 --> 01:47:33,492
Speaker 18: me out.

2313
01:47:33,572 --> 01:47:36,612
Speaker 2: Wow, that's brave of you. You're a gutsy woman, so

2314
01:47:36,772 --> 01:47:37,053
Speaker 2: I thought.

2315
01:47:37,133 --> 01:47:39,692
Speaker 18: Then I stopped in Hong Kong and I kept going

2316
01:47:39,853 --> 01:47:41,612
Speaker 18: to come home to New Zealand, and I stopped in

2317
01:47:41,692 --> 01:47:45,892
Speaker 18: Hong Kong and there was a little aeroplane in there

2318
01:47:45,933 --> 01:47:47,852
Speaker 18: that was making a noise in my suitcase. So they

2319
01:47:47,933 --> 01:47:49,933
Speaker 18: locked me in this room and they wanted to know

2320
01:47:50,053 --> 01:47:52,973
Speaker 18: what was ticking in my suitcase and I said, oh,

2321
01:47:53,013 --> 01:47:57,093
Speaker 18: it's a little aeroplane for my grandson. And they said oh.

2322
01:47:57,452 --> 01:47:59,812
Speaker 18: So they had to take everything out and show them,

2323
01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:02,173
Speaker 18: and then they said they wanted some more money.

2324
01:48:02,572 --> 01:48:03,492
Speaker 2: Was this all on the same night.

2325
01:48:03,652 --> 01:48:06,372
Speaker 18: But I haven't got any more money. And so they

2326
01:48:06,452 --> 01:48:08,532
Speaker 18: called these two guys in suits that came along and

2327
01:48:09,053 --> 01:48:11,692
Speaker 18: they said, you pay more money, and I said no,

2328
01:48:11,853 --> 01:48:14,572
Speaker 18: I haven't got any more money. And they said you've

2329
01:48:14,572 --> 01:48:17,452
Speaker 18: got credit cards and I said no, I've got a

2330
01:48:17,492 --> 01:48:20,093
Speaker 18: credit card. But it's got nothing on it now, and

2331
01:48:20,612 --> 01:48:22,933
Speaker 18: they after a while, I talked my way out of it.

2332
01:48:23,013 --> 01:48:24,612
Speaker 18: But I was out of that airport as quick as.

2333
01:48:25,213 --> 01:48:26,532
Speaker 2: All on the same trip, Barbara, or the.

2334
01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:28,652
Speaker 11: Trip was that?

2335
01:48:28,692 --> 01:48:31,052
Speaker 2: Because you've been in Bosnia, so you were being marked

2336
01:48:31,093 --> 01:48:32,692
Speaker 2: as being coming from a way zone.

2337
01:48:32,732 --> 01:48:34,173
Speaker 17: Do you think, I don't know.

2338
01:48:35,372 --> 01:48:38,053
Speaker 18: They didn't really like me because I was in the

2339
01:48:38,093 --> 01:48:41,092
Speaker 18: Air Force, but I didn't have my idea or anything

2340
01:48:41,173 --> 01:48:42,812
Speaker 18: with me because they told me not to take that.

2341
01:48:43,333 --> 01:48:45,772
Speaker 3: Well, glad you got back safe. Absolutely sounds like a

2342
01:48:45,893 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 3: really set upon trip. Yeah, what a story, Ellen, you

2343
01:48:49,452 --> 01:48:50,572
Speaker 3: got locked up in Zimbabwe?

2344
01:48:52,253 --> 01:48:55,053
Speaker 2: Yeah that How did you do that?

2345
01:48:56,412 --> 01:49:00,173
Speaker 11: Well, basically, what was a happins involved? We traveled a

2346
01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:02,893
Speaker 11: tremendous amount of neighboring countries where I used to do

2347
01:49:03,372 --> 01:49:07,372
Speaker 11: a lot of those side you boys bumping into police

2348
01:49:07,532 --> 01:49:13,173
Speaker 11: roadblocks and it was a matter of I'm trying to

2349
01:49:13,253 --> 01:49:15,372
Speaker 11: paint the Buwest press as I can for you. So

2350
01:49:15,532 --> 01:49:19,093
Speaker 11: you always basically drive around with some new shoes in

2351
01:49:19,213 --> 01:49:23,772
Speaker 11: your car and a couple of cartons of cigarettes, a

2352
01:49:23,853 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 11: couple of bucks sitting in some empty cigarette boxes. And yeah,

2353
01:49:30,253 --> 01:49:33,333
Speaker 11: got into this one road block and I said, crops

2354
01:49:34,013 --> 01:49:37,133
Speaker 11: and I'd actually forgotten. What had actually happened was that

2355
01:49:37,853 --> 01:49:41,133
Speaker 11: my driver's license had actually got wet in the rain,

2356
01:49:41,772 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 11: and with the friction on the wallet, half of the

2357
01:49:45,253 --> 01:49:51,492
Speaker 11: face gone on my driver's license. So yeah, So this

2358
01:49:53,772 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 11: lady like a big mama, her poor old buttons were

2359
01:49:57,732 --> 01:50:01,333
Speaker 11: crying to break out of out of her their situation.

2360
01:50:02,053 --> 01:50:04,173
Speaker 11: And she comes up to me. She says, I want

2361
01:50:04,253 --> 01:50:07,012
Speaker 11: to see your driver's license. I showed her my driver's

2362
01:50:07,093 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 11: license and she says to me, so, yeah, on this

2363
01:50:10,333 --> 01:50:13,893
Speaker 11: particular that's been a little bit over a wiki and

2364
01:50:14,492 --> 01:50:19,012
Speaker 11: she says to me, this looks very suspicious. So I said,

2365
01:50:19,053 --> 01:50:24,293
Speaker 11: we'll arrest it. She says, why did you say that?

2366
01:50:24,532 --> 01:50:26,213
Speaker 11: I said, well, it's suspicious.

2367
01:50:26,293 --> 01:50:26,692
Speaker 13: Arrested.

2368
01:50:28,732 --> 01:50:31,612
Speaker 11: And it was then a matter of well you mustn't

2369
01:50:31,652 --> 01:50:34,732
Speaker 11: be funny with us. And the next minute that comes

2370
01:50:34,772 --> 01:50:38,133
Speaker 11: in a K forty seven pop through the window, and

2371
01:50:39,173 --> 01:50:42,492
Speaker 11: this other check says, well, this is going to get

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Speaker 11: very serious. I said, well, look of course it's serious.

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Speaker 9: It's not.

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Speaker 11: That's the pictures. If it's suspicious, arrest, if nothing else

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Speaker 11: I could do, you can see me there's the license.

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Speaker 11: Well we're going to have to go and lock you up.

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Speaker 11: So I thought, well, hang on a second, I'm going

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Speaker 11: to have to try and tone this down because I

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Speaker 11: know that I'm not going to be looked after period

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Speaker 11: kindly where.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go?

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Speaker 11: And so I said to you, big Boma, I said, well, look,

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Speaker 11: you know, it's a very very hot day today and

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Speaker 11: you're looking very tired, very hot today. Are we going

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Speaker 11: to try and do something? You know, gen need a

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Speaker 11: cool drink or something. And funny enough, I'd actually just

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Speaker 11: stopped off and normally to stop off at a fresh

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Speaker 11: cafe or something and buy a chicken and nice cold

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Speaker 11: cokes or something. And yeah, so out the window goes

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Speaker 11: the coke.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Allen, We've got to go. But hopefully that worked

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Speaker 2: out for.

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Speaker 3: You and the chicken and coke got you out of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is a dicey situation. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Back very shortly.

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Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to four, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks, it.

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Speaker 3: B News Talks, it'd be it is a five to four.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening on. That brings us

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Speaker 2: to the end of the show. What a great conversation

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Speaker 2: we've had over the last four hours, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: back again tomorrow live from twelve, So tune in, but

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Speaker 2: don't tune out because the great and powerful Heather Duplessy

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Speaker 2: Allen is up next. But right now, Tyler, my good friend,

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Speaker 2: why am I playing this song? What a June the Pogues?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it is Saint Patty's Day.

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Speaker 3: So if you are out there and you're half slashed

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Speaker 3: or you're fully sloshed, enjoy it. It's a great day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's my second favorite song from everyone's favorite Irish band,

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Speaker 2: The Pose. All Right until tomorrow, can might taste a

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Speaker 2: key week for months?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 16: Then?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you sing.

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Speaker 1: Gussy, It's matt Ethan Pylor Adams. For more from News

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