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Speaker 1: So here's another question for you. Can we afford to

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Speaker 1: slow down emergency services with speed bumps that cities are

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Speaker 1: building everywhere? So fire and emergency have already complained about them.

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Speaker 1: And now we have a Wellington councilor Ray Chung, who

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Speaker 1: says they may have cost a man his life. So

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Speaker 1: a corry van collapsed. He died at home last week

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Speaker 1: before emergency services could get there. So Ray Chung is

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hello, Ray, Hey, you good afternoon Andrew? How are

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Speaker 2: you good mate?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, last Monday morning, this gentleman's wife rang up this

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Speaker 2: man came out of it, came out of the bathroom

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Speaker 2: near collapsed in the hallway. And so she didn't know

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Speaker 2: what to do, and so she rang her neighbors and said, look,

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Speaker 2: you know he just collapsed. You know, can your please

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Speaker 2: come and help me. I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: And so the neighbors rushed over the end, saw that

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Speaker 2: he was. It was collapped and obviously in having problems.

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Speaker 2: And so she rang the ambulance the embulance and said, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll get two ambulances up there. We've got one and

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Speaker 2: thorn Key, which may be a bit problematic. Because of

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Speaker 2: course that's what all the good works are. But we've

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Speaker 2: also got another one in John Sibill. But what I'll

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Speaker 2: do is I'll also ring the fire service, because the

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Speaker 2: fire service are only just down the road from you

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Speaker 2: and Corori Road, so they'll be there in four minutes,

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Speaker 2: and so that's fine. So they did that. Then they

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Speaker 2: went outside to wait till the fire truck to come up,

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Speaker 2: and I could hear the signs, but it didn't seem

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Speaker 2: to be moving, and it was just the sign was

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Speaker 2: going and going and going, but it didn't seem to

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Speaker 2: be progressing along. Keep in mind it only has to

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Speaker 2: come down one road. And then finally arrived up there,

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Speaker 2: and then the fireman said, look, apologies were taken so long,

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Speaker 2: but the speed bumps in Corey Road so to sound

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Speaker 2: because we can't speed over them. We have to actually

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Speaker 2: almost stop. Your fire engine is really really heavy, and

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Speaker 2: so we almost have to stop before we go over

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Speaker 2: each of them.

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Speaker 1: And this is the problem that was expressed about Thorn

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Speaker 1: and Key in the debate about a week and a

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Speaker 1: half ago. But can you can you categorically say that

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Speaker 1: the man would have survived if the emergency services have

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Speaker 1: been there faster and not held up by the raised

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Speaker 1: pedestrian crossings.

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Speaker 2: Can't categorically say them, but their five people also said

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Speaker 2: that in emergencies like this, every second is important. Every

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Speaker 2: second count. You've got to get there before they haven't

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Speaker 2: stopped beatings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so how does it afterwards? How does this make

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Speaker 1: you feel about speed bumps?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're put in to supposedly keep people safer

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Speaker 1: when you're on the roads, and that said that people

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Speaker 1: don't then lose their lives, but in this case they

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Speaker 1: possibly may have contributed to someone losing their life. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about speed bumps and raised pedestrian crossings.

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Speaker 2: I've always been very concerned about the reason and the

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Speaker 2: justification for them, because I haven't had many meetings with

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Speaker 2: accounts that I've talked to them about what is the

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Speaker 2: point of these raised pedestrian crossings, for example? And I

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Speaker 2: said that on they're actually therefore for making giving a

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Speaker 2: sort of heightened so that people can actually see children

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Speaker 2: crossing the road. And so I said, really, is that

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Speaker 2: the reason for so doing that? Why don't we just

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Speaker 2: put signs at the front of each crossings out there

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Speaker 2: talk people are not allowed to cross you know, it

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Speaker 2: seems a very strange reason to have for that. So

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Speaker 2: I've also asked about the speed bumps, and so I said,

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Speaker 2: why are you having these speed bumps immediately before a crossing?

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Speaker 2: And so they said, well, there's to slow the traffic

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Speaker 2: down as they approached the crossing. I said, but these

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Speaker 2: crossings are signalized so they can see they've got red

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Speaker 2: lights up there. So it doesn't it make sense that

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Speaker 2: when any motors are approaching a red light or slow down?

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Speaker 2: Or are you saying that when I see yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, right, get id. You've obviously thought about this,

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Speaker 1: but you obviously are also the guardian of the rate

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Speaker 1: payers care. So would you actually spend more rate payers

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Speaker 1: money getting rid of the blasted things because you don't

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Speaker 1: like why?

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Speaker 2: The first of I do is I've actually spop not

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Speaker 2: one more would go in. And so until we can

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Speaker 2: actually prove categorically that dialection you're required, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: drive acrosson. I'm going across so many of these things,

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Speaker 2: and I keep wondering, why are these ones here? Why

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Speaker 2: is this one here? Why is that one here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Love your passion, Ray, and I thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Ray Chong. He is a Wellington counselor.

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