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Speaker 1: Get a It's Jerry here from the Heartachey Breakfast, just

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Speaker 1: letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast

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Speaker 1: but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,

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Speaker 1: we do. And if you're wondering how to find out

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Speaker 1: what frequency to listen to us in your area, just

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Speaker 1: takes north or South as an island to three four

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Speaker 1: eight three and only you know. And now let's get

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Speaker 1: on with the podcast. The date is the eighteenth of

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Speaker 1: September twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: The day is Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The hosts are Jeremy Wellesman, I Stewart, President Rudas Present.

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Speaker 1: The name of the podcast, we don't really.

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Speaker 2: Know, do you know what? I just call it the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You call it the podcast. So very confusing though, because

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Speaker 2: there's also the radio show podcast, which is also a podcast,

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Speaker 2: which but it's called the radio but as a radio

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Speaker 2: show a podcast, And if you didn't know that, we

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Speaker 2: do a radio show, and you should go and listen

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Speaker 2: to the radio show.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know what the frequencies a I

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Speaker 1: just text North or South three four eight three.

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Speaker 2: You would have already heard that, but I just think

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Speaker 2: it's important to reiterate this is our marketing employee for

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Speaker 2: the second half of twenty twenty five is to convince

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Speaker 2: all the podcast listeners to listen to a radio show.

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Speaker 1: Well, we asked a while ago, are there any people

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Speaker 1: who are listening to this podcast who have never who

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Speaker 1: didn't know that we do a radio show? Yep, and

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Speaker 1: not a single person came back. There were everybody knows

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Speaker 1: there's the key yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the ones that are like, I don't listen to

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Speaker 2: the radio show are like, because I live in Candadate

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Speaker 2: or I live in live in, live in, live in Livinda, Loca,

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Speaker 2: for example. Right, Andrew Beeman, who the photo of the

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Speaker 2: keyboard that we saw yesterday. Remember I showed you that

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Speaker 2: photo of the keyboard, the white stuff all over it,

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Speaker 2: and we're like, what is that stuff?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And so I wrote a message to him, tied it

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Speaker 2: to a paget and sent it off off. So what

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Speaker 2: is that stuff? And Andrew Beeman, the Canadian listener with

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Speaker 2: the white white stuff all over his keyboard, replied and said,

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Speaker 2: plastic sawdust. I work as a saw operating operator in

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Speaker 2: a manufacturing plant that bills doors and windows, plastic sawdust.

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Speaker 2: Plastic sawdust. It's not really text that came through the

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Speaker 2: radio dust that come off a saw. Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I used to get bone dust on my heir at

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Speaker 2: freezing wooks. Is if you stand close enough to the

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Speaker 2: band saw, then you get bone dust all through. That stinks.

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Speaker 1: I love the smell, oh, I bet it does. I

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Speaker 1: love the smell of sawdust off a tree though. Timber smell.

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Speaker 2: Me and my Auntie is going to walk. Your dogs are along,

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Speaker 2: but sort of beside the port and tamar and there's

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Speaker 2: like a massive lumber yard there. My god, that smells gird.

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Speaker 1: I think that's proof that we should be and amongst

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Speaker 1: the tree, yes, because we just immediately you smell that

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Speaker 1: smell and something about it? What is that? Does anyone

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Speaker 1: not like the smell of timber? Timber?

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Speaker 2: Different timbers too. My dad had a mate who was

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Speaker 2: the bat you just have it, just different kind of sandalwood.

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Speaker 1: Sandalwood that's my shaving cream that I use. Bloody Good

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Speaker 1: Stuffies is some good smelling woods. Yeah, I love I

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Speaker 1: like sandal wood. Cody is a beautiful smelling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is hard words. They smell good man I

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Speaker 2: mean this is why Master, you were saying we need

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Speaker 2: to get some wood in here. Oh you reckon.

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Speaker 1: It was the smell.

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Speaker 2: No, But I just think that there's something about you know,

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Speaker 2: wood and having it around it, the feel of it. Man,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The smell of timber releases aromatic compounds that are psychologically

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Speaker 3: calming and lower your heart rate and streets. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: pleasant memories of nature and comfort.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, so because that's what we're meant

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Speaker 1: to be as animals.

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Speaker 2: Never the road has just broken a cardinal rule broadcasting,

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Speaker 2: and that has never sniffed. Jerry's done it to never

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Speaker 2: sniff a microphone. No, pops, I share one with Jayson. No,

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Speaker 1: No, because I think that's a big thing about people

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Speaker 2: Would you? I was gonna there was a little cigarette

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Speaker 2: to be a word. Would you rather? We have got

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Speaker 2: a bunch more local election candidates. Oh, you have to

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Speaker 2: go through it if you would liked it? Please, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: can I take you for a trip down south? No? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm already going Okay, you're already going south. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: heid where's this one? Hold on and be with me. Well, unfortunately, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna have to go south because both

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Speaker 2: of these candidates are in South, and both candidates have

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Speaker 2: been sent through separately by multiple different people into the conclave,

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Speaker 2: which is the Hodacky Breakfast Facebook private group, safe space

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Speaker 2: for you to discuss basically whatever whatever you want. The

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Speaker 2: Mbcago Licensing Trust is electing six board members, one of

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Speaker 2: them pleading for your vote. Jeremy Wales is Cain, Big

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Speaker 2: Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson. So yesterday

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Speaker 2: we had Big Rid Scheffer, his brother is Goose, and

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Speaker 2: somebody posted into the conclave, I see your big Red

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Speaker 2: and I raised you Big Daddy Cain, Big Daddy Johnson.

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Speaker 2: My principal place of residence is in the Invercargo licensing

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Speaker 2: trust area. My family's connections to Invercargo spans generations. I'm

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Speaker 2: Cain Big Daddy Johnson, and I'm asking for your vote

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Speaker 2: to bringing a fresh perspective backed by proven experience to

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Speaker 2: the LT the Iltcago license.

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Speaker 1: Yeah great, great, great organization. The ILT. Now they are

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Speaker 1: so the wounders who decide how much where alcohol is served,

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Speaker 1: own the bars.

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Speaker 2: And one time they built an indoor facility where the

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Speaker 2: around and around and around in circles and one time

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Speaker 2: it's snowed there in the roof have it. But they

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Speaker 1: We put money back into the community, is what they say.

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Speaker 2: And where I live in West Akland now has got

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Speaker 2: the same thing. There's a licensing trust which means there's

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Speaker 2: no pubs mate in west Auckland. That's where for those

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Speaker 2: Outrageous Fortune was filmed and set. There are no pubs. No,

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Speaker 2: If they didn't exist and they tried to put one in,

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Speaker 2: there would be fucking outraged.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that places allowed these stupid licensing that's insane.

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Speaker 2: Every year the Herald, or I'm pretty sure it's the

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Speaker 2: Hero puts out in an instigation into how much they

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Speaker 2: actually invest back into the community.

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Speaker 1: The White Tackli one's the worst. Yes, like it's it's

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Speaker 1: officially the worst, the Southland one, the Inbicago one. It

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Speaker 1: does put money back in and so as a result,

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Speaker 1: but it also spends huge amounts of money on advertising itself,

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you don't need to advertise. We're forced

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Speaker 2: to pay you. So what do you mean you're advertising.

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Speaker 2: It's not like we've got an option.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird it's a weird set up, and

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Speaker 1: I think they think that if they don't exist, it

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Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's been in Southland, has sort of

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Speaker 2: They're like in Auckland.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you said in Auckland Central. There's going to

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Speaker 1: and distrants. They're going to tell you what you can do,

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Speaker 1: what you can open, what you can't you can put

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Speaker 2: Right brewery.

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Speaker 1: But that means that that is the only like that

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Speaker 2: It's in the bars. It's no bars that there's a

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Speaker 2: that's a terrible idea. The other thing that happens there

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Speaker 1: It, because it's exactly because super Lika is owned by

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Speaker 2: If it didn't, there's no way we would tolerate someone

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Speaker 2: all of the rules that we've just laid out there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a hangover from the prohibition data.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly because it used to be dry Southland. Southland

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've all got these pubs and I forget what

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Speaker 2: there's a pub right on the boundary of where those

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Speaker 2: prohibsion rules ran out. A lot of South Island towns

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Speaker 2: have them. You'll see a pub just them bump fuck

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Speaker 2: nowhere and you're like, why is that there? That was

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Speaker 2: the outer limit of where you were allowed to drink past.

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Speaker 2: It's all you do is drive out there, get tanked

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Speaker 1: That's so silly.

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Speaker 2: We got a relax on the rules, and there's fourteen

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Speaker 2: year olds drinking beer in Germany their entire lives. They

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Speaker 2: don't lose the plot. The reason we lose the plot,

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Speaker 2: as kiwis, is because there's so many rules on when

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Speaker 2: you can and can't drink pass. The clearest example is

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Speaker 2: key we at an open bar, they're going to make

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Speaker 2: a deck of themselves every single time. Whereas if you

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Speaker 2: any rules in it. Who brought this fucking soap box

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Speaker 2: into this?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's fair enough for everything. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to have a crack.

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Speaker 2: Can I finish cane Big Daddy Johnson's please? So what's

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Speaker 2: he going to do on the IoT?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. He's just going to

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Speaker 1: get on the IoT and won't do the same thing

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Speaker 1: and every other mofos ever done.

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Speaker 2: is this is Kane Big Daddy Johnson to find you, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: big for Ilt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what about an ANTIILT person on the IoT?

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Speaker 1: Do they have any antiilt people on there? And TILTA

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Speaker 1: After thirty eight years of prohibition and the Cargo voted

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Speaker 1: Firstly to provide quality hospitality businesses, secretly to operate those

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Speaker 2: But also like, okay, so we came up with that

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Speaker 1: And they had they held sway because they've been across a.

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Speaker 2: Wars just for you to tell me I can't have

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Speaker 1: IoT runs twenty three hospitality businesses twenty three including accommodation,

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Speaker 2: No, And so what it does is it says it

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Speaker 2: hasn't reported a profit for that yet. Meanwhile, meanwhile, the

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Speaker 2: but the company itself hasn't made a profit.

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Speaker 1: In for Cargo is often the envy of other provincial

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Speaker 1: that code brown the whole time. Remember, we kept doing

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it needs it, And I know

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Speaker 2: O'Brien's on the board as he should be, Angelain Newell,

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Speaker 1: And Prentice the Bloody Singer is pet Graham hawks Schari

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Speaker 2: I think Yeah, I don't know. I think it's outdated.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we you know, my my litmus

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Speaker 2: test for any of these things is if it didn't exist,

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Speaker 2: resounding no, we would not invent that. And the only

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Speaker 2: defense that I would hear from anyone would always will be,

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Speaker 2: oh but when you know otherwise we're going to have

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Speaker 1: I was just looking at the Ilt area and it's

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Speaker 1: the Actually, I think the other license. I think there's

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a total one one.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, So they are so Southland. Ye have you

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Speaker 2: heard of the well tag?

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Speaker 3: No, the west Auckland Licensing Trust Action Group And they

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're forever trying to get rid of every election.

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Speaker 2: They're like, we'll get rid of it, We'll get rid

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Speaker 3: They need fifteen percent of eligible voter voters in the region,

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Speaker 3: And those votes went before some scrutiniers and they found

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Speaker 2: More than once was it petition?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, seventy one of them unreadable? And then partitions.

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Speaker 2: I've always found like, like if I was a politician,

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Speaker 1: So the IL team made seven million dollars profit last year.

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Speaker 1: That's good and it gave out.

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Speaker 2: Can I also just quickly on the profit that the

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Speaker 2: let you're doing something amazing. Anyway, I've got another one

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Speaker 2: here if you'd like to hear it, one one more

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Speaker 2: tomorrow perhaps Gordon McCrone he is running also for the ILT.

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Speaker 2: He is from the Advanced Task Force political party. His

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Speaker 2: principal place of residence of the McCargo City Council area

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Speaker 2: checks out. And I'm going to read this verbatim, all right,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot in here. Comedian Levity escaped Auckland. Rush

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Speaker 2: hour traffic thirty kilometers an hour at three pm earns

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Speaker 2: more than the new Zealand Prime Minister advising owners on

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Speaker 2: business strategy, Senior software engineer and forensic accountant mitigating one

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Speaker 2: My agent plus app transacts five hundred million Australian per

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Speaker 2: week in Rent. In nineteen eighty nine, I AM witnessed

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Speaker 2: ridiculed in Windings originally not the Arabs. In nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: witnessed a succession planning list of all New Zealand Prime

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Speaker 2: Ministers and all are on schedule voting means nothing worked

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Speaker 2: Heath Ledger as planned assassination to be actioned. In two

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Speaker 2: of Icago aightf KIWI worldhistorygidium dot Com. Smiley face.

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Speaker 3: Glad there's a smiley face at the end. This guy's

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Speaker 3: all the way to the top. Gordon mccroane goes all

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Speaker 3: the way to the top. Thoughts on Gordon mcrow He's

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Speaker 3: got my vote. He makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got someone making sense, someone with someone

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Speaker 2: that's willing to stand.

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Speaker 1: Up actually, and also just to cut through the bs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, there's too much red tape, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't, Yeah, totally. I think with him there will

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Speaker 1: be no red tape.

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Speaker 3: Gordon McCrone wrote seven, how did he witness the nine

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Speaker 3: to eleven September two thousand and one attacks in nineteen

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Speaker 2: How do you do that? While we're talking about a

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Speaker 3: I mean, that makes sense and you'll be happy to

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Speaker 3: know it's it's all on the good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He also, I mean, I mean the stuff this guy's

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Speaker 2: Internal Affairs on women's suffrage and the Treaty of White

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Speaker 2: tonguey you know what I mean. This guy should be.

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Speaker 2: This guy's a national here.

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Speaker 3: So nineteen ninety seven, Yeah, did he see the plan

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Speaker 3: that said just cinder adjourne yep would then step down

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Speaker 3: for a little bit, yeap chappy, and then Chippy would

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Speaker 2: Yes, And his point there is that that means that

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Speaker 2: voting means nothing, and that's why he's asking for your

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, he's got it, Okay,

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Speaker 2: should not this thing on there? Keep those coming through,

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