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Speaker 2: YUD and New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks

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Speaker 2: V Jack Tame with you through the midday Today. One

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Speaker 2: of my favorite TV shows is coming back. I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited about this. One of my favorites the show called

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Speaker 2: The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes. You might have seen the

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Speaker 2: first series. It's a show where people who have Alzheimer's

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Speaker 2: effectively run a restaurant and it is extraordinary. It is

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Speaker 2: so move and inspiring and thoughtful. It's the kind of

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Speaker 2: television that might not have been made twenty years ago,

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Speaker 2: and it is really remarkable. So I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you about that series and where you can see it once.

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Speaker 2: Season two of The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes come back.

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Speaker 2: It comes back. That will be in our screen time

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Speaker 2: segment this morning, our feature interview right after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: This is one to really look forward to. Donna Hay

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Speaker 2: is going to be with us live this morning. Cannot

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Speaker 2: wait for that. Conversation right now, though it's eight minutes

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Speaker 2: past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack tiam And, as someone who considers themselves at least

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Speaker 3: semi literate, with the benefit of a reasonable education and

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Speaker 3: at least a passing interest in the world, I can

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Speaker 3: confirm there is nothing there is nothing quite so humbling

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Speaker 3: in middle age as trying to learn a new language

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Speaker 3: at short notice.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping to briefly visit a Latin American country for

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Speaker 2: my work in a few weeks time, and so in

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Speaker 2: preparation this week, I downloaded a few apps and subscribed

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Speaker 2: to some podcasts to try and re up my Spanish. Now,

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Speaker 2: my history with Spanish is one of really big surges

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Speaker 2: and then even bigger retreats. I studied it at high

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Speaker 2: school until about seventh form. I wasn't very good. In fact,

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Speaker 2: But then when I moved to New York in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: I decided that I would learn Spanish in a way

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Speaker 2: that I never had when I was a teenager. I

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Speaker 2: lessons on Skype. Just speaking with a tutor friend in

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Speaker 2: Mexico's South. After a few months of studying, I decided

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Speaker 2: to visit her Estoy Exitalo, I said, trying to express

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Speaker 2: my excitement at the impending trip. Once I bought my tickets,

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Speaker 2: my tutor just burst into laughter and explained that I

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Speaker 2: I just informed a conservative Catholic mother that I was horny.

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Speaker 2: Ah ga h h is story tan embarazada, I blushed,

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Speaker 2: She bent over and laughter again. Turns out mbarazada does

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Speaker 2: not mean embarrassed. Embarazada means pregnant. It's amazing what immersion

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Speaker 2: When I visited Chapas, I would collapse and be it

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Speaker 2: exhausted at the end of every day from twelve hours

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Speaker 2: and that's when you know that it's sticking. Then, though, ugh,

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Speaker 2: an almighty retreat. I fell out of lessons and Spanish

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Speaker 2: I studied MILDI, which I absolutely loved, but which has

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to admit that, although my wife is Persian,

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Speaker 2: in Pharsi, I can't even say hello. Now, there are

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Speaker 2: fascinated by people who can speak multiple languages. There's this

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Speaker 2: New Zealander, a guy called Harold Williams, who basically no

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Speaker 2: he edit for the Times newspaper in London, a foreign correspondent,

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Speaker 2: and spoke as many as fifty eight different languages, yeah

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Speaker 2: how he described it. When he was about seven years old,

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Speaker 2: Testament in every language that his bookshop could order, and

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Speaker 2: he taught himself languages that way. I reckon our historic

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Speaker 2: most of us can. It's wonderful to see the revitalization

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Speaker 2: one of the most monolingual developed countries on Earth. So

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Speaker 2: here we go again. Like trying to start a lawn

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Speaker 2: mower that has been sitting in the shed for fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: would like to buy a ticket for the train. Ugh.

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Speaker 2: It is just so humbling to go so far back

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Speaker 2: m batazada even, and yet still so rewarding when you

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Speaker 2: feel something stick exitao. That's the thing about language, a

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Speaker 2: more than vowels and consonance. It's the front door to culture,

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Speaker 2: a gate to a whole new world. Jacktay nine ninety

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Speaker 2: If you are in a bit of a rut, not

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Speaker 2: Next out though, Kevin Melon will kick us off for

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Speaker 2: our Saturday morning. It's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jacktaying.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Jack. I enjoyed your opening comments this morning,

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Speaker 2: so long as you are making it part of your routine.

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Speaker 2: You're always making progress. It doesn't matter how slow you

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Speaker 2: might be compared to others. Yeah, I guess thanks, Jack,

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Speaker 2: totally agree. Regarding New Zealanders and their monolingualism. All you

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Speaker 2: need to do is travel through most of Europe and

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Speaker 2: you realize just how far off we are compared to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world. It is a humbling thing.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just Europe. I mean, obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you got someone like Scannina, they speak better English

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Speaker 2: than we do. But even when you travel through you know,

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Speaker 2: and being like, man, these you know, kids who don't

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Speaker 2: we do. It's yeah, it can be a humbling thing.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Kevin Milne is with us. Kevin, you strike

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Speaker 2: me as a bit of a polyguet, a man of

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Speaker 2: the world, someone who could speak a few languages.

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Speaker 5: I actually answered the phone this morning from zeb of course,

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Speaker 5: from producer to by saying.

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Speaker 6: She replied, to which he replied, so we're all.

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Speaker 5: Sort of we're all getting multi lingual this morning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've just had a text, funny enough from

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Speaker 5: my son in London and he's he's at the O two,

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Speaker 5: you know, the big stay there and who's playing but

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Speaker 5: crowded out?

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Speaker 2: Oh how good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny really because I was just looking the

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Speaker 6: I mean it must see weird to.

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Speaker 5: Be a kind of a group like them where you

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Speaker 5: in London, which and the preasures that alex SI so

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Speaker 5: it is a huge crowd. Yeah, and then and then

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Speaker 5: next month you're you're at the Regent in North.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool actually that they you know, like, it

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Speaker 2: sees a lot about the group. Don't you think that

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Speaker 2: they still play the region in Palveston North?

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Speaker 5: I think so, absolutely absolutely. And also what I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so good. I was the thing I

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Speaker 2: love about Credit House is that they are so successful

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Speaker 2: watching The Beer the other day, which is this amazing

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Speaker 2: TV show we're going to talk about about up to

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Speaker 2: Credit House was playing and it was something so wrong,

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Speaker 2: and it was right at the very end of the song.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hang on a second, there's Credit House,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it just feels like you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a different, a different like stratosphere

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Speaker 2: of success. Yeah, it's quite remarkable. So yeah. Yeah, anyway, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: you have been perplexed this week about something at the supermarket.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I do most of their household supermarket shoving jack. Weirdly,

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Speaker 5: I enjoy it. So I'm in the supermarket fairly of them.

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Speaker 5: And there's one thing I don't get. I happen to

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Speaker 5: shop at New World, as you know, frequently off your

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Speaker 5: stickers based on how much you've bought, and you can

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Speaker 5: trade them in on various stuff. I think it's it's

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Speaker 5: kitchen containers. At Man, when you go through check out,

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Speaker 5: you're asked if you want your stickers. What I don't

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Speaker 5: understand is why people say no. It's not like if

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Speaker 5: they don't take the stickers they get a cash reduction

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Speaker 5: on what they're bought. So saying no to the stickers

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Speaker 5: seems to me like just throwing away money. I'm not

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Speaker 5: obsessed with these stickers. I accept it's stupid just to

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Speaker 5: bend more in the supermarket just to get more stickers.

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Speaker 5: I also accept that possibly the supermarket puts up the

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Speaker 5: price of its goods to cover the cost of giving

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Speaker 5: away free goods. I don't know that, but maybe it's

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Speaker 5: people suggest it. But if that's so, all customers are

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Speaker 5: paying more for their goods, including the people who say no.

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Speaker 5: I don't want the stickers. So why would you say

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Speaker 5: might think it's not worth taking the stickers because you'll

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Speaker 5: never get enough to trade them in on anything. What

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering is that in all the worthwhile discussion about

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Speaker 5: whether you'd rather your supermarket lowered prices than give out

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Speaker 5: kitchen containers, etc. Some people have got the wrong end

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Speaker 5: of the stick somehow. Maybe they think that they shouldn't

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Speaker 5: accept their stickers. I always accept the stickers. We've already

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Speaker 5: got every We've got every container available in the current

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Speaker 5: New World promotion. But what I'm proud of is that

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Speaker 5: I've resisted the temptation of asking people in front of

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Speaker 5: me who don't want the stickers, can I have them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally. Hey, Thanksgivin. Appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Melne there, thank you for your text. Jack, so true.

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Speaker 2: thank of your text, Jack. I always take the stickers

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Speaker 2: It's never too late. That is really amazing. That is

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I cannot wait for that. Thank you

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Speaker 2: This is a nice ah. This is the Ladder from

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Speaker 2: the Veils and friend of the show Finn Andrews is

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Speaker 10: I like the sound of that.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed speaking but they hadn't spoken to him before,

428
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Speaker 2: so yeah, very much. Looking forward to listening to that

429
00:24:08,213 --> 00:24:10,653
Speaker 2: new album when the whole thing is released, in seeing

430
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Speaker 2: them at one Mad in March of next year. Now

431
00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:15,373
Speaker 2: let's look at your film. So this week we have

432
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a listen to your first one.

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Speaker 2: This one is showing in cinemas. It's called a Mistake.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon. This is a Mobility and Mortality meeting.

435
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Speaker 11: We're going to be discussing errors made by the surgical

436
00:24:26,893 --> 00:24:29,373
Speaker 11: staff in Lisa Williams case.

437
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:43,573
Speaker 2: Christmas Hooy, our daughter is in the look bye bam.

438
00:24:43,813 --> 00:24:46,013
Speaker 2: So he's got Elizabeth Banks and it's made by Kiwi

439
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Speaker 2: filmmaker Christine Jeffs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it marks the return of Christine Jess.

441
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Speaker 12: I've been a fan of her since she released Rain

442
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Speaker 12: and then she went on to make two more films,

443
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Speaker 12: Sylvia and Sun Juan Cleaning.

444
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Speaker 10: She's returned to New Zealand for this film Or It's

445
00:25:00,573 --> 00:25:01,613
Speaker 10: set in New Zealand at a.

446
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Speaker 12: Hospital in Auckland and it's a film about medical ethics

447
00:25:05,053 --> 00:25:08,733
Speaker 12: and bureaucracy. She's managed to get Elizabeth Thanks to play

448
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:11,693
Speaker 12: the lead character, Elizabeth Taylor, who was a surgeon and

449
00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:14,373
Speaker 12: her reputation and career takes a hit when a patient

450
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Speaker 12: dies after a relatively routine procedure. The patient was thought

451
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Speaker 12: to have appendicitis. They went in to do some exploratory.

452
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Speaker 10: Surgery.

453
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Speaker 12: Taylor lets a nervous young doctor insert a gas port

454
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Speaker 12: into her abdomen.

455
00:25:31,893 --> 00:25:34,093
Speaker 10: He bungles it, it ruptures an artery.

456
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Speaker 12: They fix it and the patient deverilically should be fine,

457
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Speaker 12: but actually she had very She accepted sema, which was

458
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Speaker 12: a lot worse than people thought, and she didn't last

459
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Speaker 12: the night. And this is where the film gets really

460
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Speaker 12: interesting because it takes a look at the consequences of

461
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Speaker 12: a mistake and a death and the lasting impact it has.

462
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Speaker 10: On everybody involved.

463
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Speaker 12: So even along the patient was severely ill and the

464
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Speaker 12: mistake was potentially not the cause of the death. It's

465
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Speaker 12: how everyone from Taylor, the young surgeon, their bosses deal

466
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Speaker 12: with the outcome and communicate it to the parents. It

467
00:26:12,573 --> 00:26:20,173
Speaker 12: raises that issue about sort of the system, accountability and communication. Look,

468
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Speaker 12: Elizabeth Banks is absolutely fantastic. She reminds us I think

469
00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:28,653
Speaker 12: more recently we've sort of seen her in.

470
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Speaker 10: Quite large characters.

471
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Speaker 12: Here, she is very much a woman who is dealing

472
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Speaker 12: with an internal and external sort of crisis.

473
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Speaker 10: She's also surrounded by very.

474
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Speaker 12: Competent Key we Cast and Renna Ollen and Matthew Sunderland.

475
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Speaker 12: They don't have a large part, but they play the

476
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Speaker 12: parents of this young patient, and they are absolutely superb.

477
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Speaker 10: It raises some really thoughtful questions. It is a very

478
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Speaker 10: intense film.

479
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Speaker 12: It is quite bleak, but it's brilliantly acted, and I think,

480
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Speaker 12: as I said to you, just raises a whole lot

481
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Speaker 12: of issues that relate to our house system here in

482
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Speaker 12: New Zealand, but I think will be it will relate globally.

483
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Speaker 10: Very much as well.

484
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Speaker 2: Very good, okay, cool, that is a mistake showing in

485
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Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. Next up, let's have a listen

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Speaker 2: to The Outrun.

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Speaker 13: The urge to drink can come out of norwhere do

488
00:27:19,933 --> 00:27:20,933
Speaker 13: you think you're doing well?

489
00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:23,493
Speaker 14: Suddenly you want nothing more.

490
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Speaker 10: Than a drink?

491
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Speaker 2: And that is Sasha Ronan tell us about the art

492
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Speaker 2: Run Francesco.

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Speaker 15: Yes, so this is another beautiful film actually with a

494
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Speaker 15: female protagonist in strite Sasha ron And I'm a huge

495
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Speaker 15: fan of hers, and I've been reading a few articles

496
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Speaker 15: about this film, The Outrun, and I was absolutely thrilled

497
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Speaker 15: to see it.

498
00:27:45,173 --> 00:27:47,613
Speaker 10: Has just started in theaters now.

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Speaker 12: You'll probably have to head to your independent local theater

500
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Speaker 12: to find it.

501
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Speaker 10: Like it's playing at the Lido in Epsom.

502
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Speaker 12: It is based on a memoir by Amy Liptrot and

503
00:27:59,813 --> 00:28:03,613
Speaker 12: Ronan plays Rona, and she's a marine scientist and she

504
00:28:03,733 --> 00:28:06,813
Speaker 12: returns to her home on the wild Orkney Island off

505
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Speaker 12: the north coast of Scotland.

506
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Speaker 10: And I am, as I mentioned, huge fan of Ownans

507
00:28:12,453 --> 00:28:14,733
Speaker 10: and there is a lot of award to talk around

508
00:28:14,773 --> 00:28:15,493
Speaker 10: this performance.

509
00:28:15,893 --> 00:28:17,973
Speaker 12: So there's already quite a bit of an oscar buzz

510
00:28:18,053 --> 00:28:21,653
Speaker 12: around it, so definitely worth catching She has been away

511
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:24,573
Speaker 12: from her home for about a decade. She's been living

512
00:28:24,613 --> 00:28:27,173
Speaker 12: in London, but her life is unravel She's an alcoholic

513
00:28:27,253 --> 00:28:31,693
Speaker 12: and her alcoholism has ruined her relationship. She's lost her job,

514
00:28:31,973 --> 00:28:35,333
Speaker 12: and then there's sort of a catastrophic event which leads.

515
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Speaker 10: Her to get help.

516
00:28:36,693 --> 00:28:40,013
Speaker 12: We start in Orkney and we follow her as she's

517
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Speaker 12: adjusting to being back home looking after her parents have separated.

518
00:28:44,613 --> 00:28:47,093
Speaker 12: Her mother has found God. Her father is bipolar, and

519
00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:50,933
Speaker 12: she helps him on the farm, raising the sheep and things.

520
00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:54,453
Speaker 12: And then her London life is all in flashbacks, and

521
00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:58,853
Speaker 12: we very much recognize this young person. She's living life,

522
00:28:58,893 --> 00:29:01,053
Speaker 12: she's going out, she's having a good time. But then

523
00:29:01,093 --> 00:29:04,133
Speaker 12: we just see the addiction really take over her life,

524
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Speaker 12: and then we watch.

525
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Speaker 10: Her go through a recovery. She gets to a point

526
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Speaker 10: where she goes, I'm not really sure if I can

527
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Speaker 10: ever be happy again without alcohol, And.

528
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Speaker 12: So she ends up on this island. And the island

529
00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:17,093
Speaker 12: itself is an amazing character. It is majestic. It is

530
00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:19,493
Speaker 12: this wind gale swept.

531
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Speaker 10: Place.

532
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Speaker 12: It's nature at its most remote and wild, and this

533
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Speaker 12: is very much a film about the restorative power of

534
00:29:27,293 --> 00:29:30,253
Speaker 12: nature and solitude and taking life one day at a

535
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Speaker 12: time as we see her find her feet.

536
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Speaker 10: Look, it's stunning the way it unfolds.

537
00:29:34,093 --> 00:29:37,453
Speaker 12: It's not a straightforward narrative the Scottish folklore which is

538
00:29:37,733 --> 00:29:41,213
Speaker 12: animated this documentary footage. I'm sure some of the people

539
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,053
Speaker 12: on these islands are actually real people are not actors

540
00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:48,093
Speaker 12: from these islands. I just love the way this beautiful

541
00:29:48,173 --> 00:29:51,493
Speaker 12: film just gently unfolded, and I think it's a beautiful

542
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Speaker 12: observation of a person dealing with addiction and recovery.

543
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Speaker 2: Loved it sounds fantastic, great Oka. You have to search

544
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Speaker 2: about it like it's a bit tricky to definitely Okay,

545
00:30:01,773 --> 00:30:03,093
Speaker 2: that's worth it though by the sounds of the thing.

546
00:30:03,133 --> 00:30:07,013
Speaker 2: So that is the outrun. Francesca's first film was Mistake.

547
00:30:07,373 --> 00:30:10,493
Speaker 2: It's the name of the film, not anything else. And

548
00:30:10,573 --> 00:30:12,053
Speaker 2: both of those films that'll be up on the news

549
00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:14,693
Speaker 2: talks he'd be website. Thank you very much for your

550
00:30:14,693 --> 00:30:17,613
Speaker 2: messages this morning. Jack. You were obviously brought up on

551
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Speaker 2: the sheltered size of christ Church. Maybe the angler Saxon

552
00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:22,853
Speaker 2: side there. I suggest there are plenty of languages spoken

553
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Speaker 2: by Kiwis who come from immigrant families around New Zealand.

554
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Speaker 2: Now I think that's probably reasonable. Yeah, I think maybe

555
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Speaker 2: it's the kind of you know, like middle class park

556
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Speaker 2: Our New Zealanders who haven't necessarily spoken multiple languages over

557
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Speaker 2: the years. I mean, I'm generalizing massively everywhere there, but yeah,

558
00:30:39,613 --> 00:30:42,373
Speaker 2: it's true that New Zealand's become more diverse and we

559
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Speaker 2: have many more immigrant families here now and lots of

560
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Speaker 2: people who can speak multiple languages as a result. Christ

561
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Speaker 2: Is Jack. In the nineties we had a lovely exchange

562
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Speaker 2: student from Finland at seventeen. She could speak all these

563
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Speaker 2: Scandinavian languages, German, French and English. Although Chris's kids, his

564
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Speaker 2: girls could speak French and some Spanish as well, so

565
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Speaker 2: you know, there are no laggards in that respect, even

566
00:31:04,973 --> 00:31:07,693
Speaker 2: though I certainly feel like one ninety two ninety two.

567
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:09,493
Speaker 2: If you want to send us a message if you

568
00:31:09,653 --> 00:31:12,453
Speaker 2: are in a bit of a cooking rutkok Niki Wicks

569
00:31:12,493 --> 00:31:13,573
Speaker 2: has some tips to get out of it.

570
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Speaker 1: Next Saturday mornings with Jack day keeping the conversation going

571
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Speaker 1: through the weekend with BPEUWRE dot co dot inst for

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Speaker 1: high Quality Supplements Used talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes to ten. On news talks, he'd be After

574
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock we're talking screen Time. That's the segment every

575
00:31:29,493 --> 00:31:32,813
Speaker 2: week where our screen time expert gives us three shows

576
00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:35,573
Speaker 2: that she is watching or streaming and recommends to us all.

577
00:31:35,693 --> 00:31:38,013
Speaker 2: And she's really excited, as am I about the second

578
00:31:38,053 --> 00:31:40,293
Speaker 2: season of The Restaurant that Makes Mistakes. If you haven't

579
00:31:40,293 --> 00:31:42,253
Speaker 2: seen the first season, it's just it is just a

580
00:31:42,373 --> 00:31:46,693
Speaker 2: really beautiful concept. So basically, people who have Alzheimer's help

581
00:31:46,773 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 2: to run a restaurant, and they go from zero knowledge

582
00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:53,573
Speaker 2: and running a restaurant into serving people, assisting with the

583
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Speaker 2: food preparation, running the whole thing, and as you can imagine,

584
00:31:55,933 --> 00:31:58,813
Speaker 2: like restaurants, so complex places. But it's a really kind

585
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:02,333
Speaker 2: of intimate and beautiful concept for a TV show. So

586
00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,413
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about season two. We'll tell you a

587
00:32:04,413 --> 00:32:06,853
Speaker 2: bit more about that after ten o'clock. Right now, though,

588
00:32:06,893 --> 00:32:08,813
Speaker 2: it is time to catch up with our cook, Nicky

589
00:32:08,853 --> 00:32:11,813
Speaker 2: Wicks is here with us this morning. Morning, A, Yes,

590
00:32:11,893 --> 00:32:12,413
Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 16: I'm excited about that show too. I adored the first season.

592
00:32:16,613 --> 00:32:18,053
Speaker 10: I thought they did a really great job.

593
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Speaker 16: The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes. I think it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: That's such a good idea, such a good idea. Are

595
00:32:22,293 --> 00:32:25,293
Speaker 2: you Are you a language person? I can imagine you.

596
00:32:25,493 --> 00:32:26,533
Speaker 2: Are you very worldly?

597
00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 10: Very worldly?

598
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:31,413
Speaker 17: And look when I was filming World Kitchen, so in

599
00:32:31,853 --> 00:32:34,533
Speaker 17: multiple forty different countries, and what I learned.

600
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Speaker 16: I learned always to know.

601
00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:37,933
Speaker 17: How to say thank you, how to say hello, and

602
00:32:38,013 --> 00:32:41,373
Speaker 17: also how to say delicious in a different languages, because

603
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Speaker 17: I always wanted to be able to say that's.

604
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Speaker 16: Delicious, and it was great.

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Speaker 17: I think I'm waiting for the piece of technology that

606
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Speaker 17: is when you can have a language implanted in your brain.

607
00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:55,413
Speaker 2: Yes, and I just can't wait for it. So I

608
00:32:55,453 --> 00:32:57,693
Speaker 2: will be interested to see what like AI and these

609
00:32:57,813 --> 00:32:59,733
Speaker 2: and these chaptools are going to do to language. I

610
00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:02,173
Speaker 2: really hope that they don't mean people are less and

611
00:33:02,213 --> 00:33:04,053
Speaker 2: sent device to learn languages. I think they would be

612
00:33:04,053 --> 00:33:04,693
Speaker 2: a real shame.

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Speaker 17: You know, well, I think there's no think quite like

614
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Speaker 17: I mean translation tools. I mean, I've never had great success.

615
00:33:10,493 --> 00:33:13,253
Speaker 17: This is just that stiltedness. But I'm talking about an

616
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Speaker 17: actual thing that gets put in my brain so that

617
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Speaker 17: when I'm going to Italy, I can speak.

618
00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:22,853
Speaker 2: The local diary. Yeah yeah, fair enough, alright.

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Speaker 16: But anyway, okay, such a raid game might might.

620
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Speaker 2: Suffer, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: True.

622
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Speaker 2: Now now you're helping us get out of cooking rut

623
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Speaker 2: this morning, and I'm doing a terrible job with timing.

624
00:33:32,373 --> 00:33:34,413
Speaker 2: But this is something that does affect people from time

625
00:33:34,453 --> 00:33:36,373
Speaker 2: to time. You just feel like a bit blair with

626
00:33:36,493 --> 00:33:38,893
Speaker 2: cooking app Yeah, yeah, I think so.

627
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Speaker 17: And I've just been through a little a phase of

628
00:33:41,373 --> 00:33:44,173
Speaker 17: that myself, which really surprised me because I go through

629
00:33:44,213 --> 00:33:46,453
Speaker 17: it perhaps lest often than other people, but my job

630
00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:49,493
Speaker 17: relies on coming up with new recipe ideas, and I

631
00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:51,973
Speaker 17: just found myself very devoid of ideas.

632
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Speaker 16: I was like, oh, I've done that. Oh, I don't know.

633
00:33:54,773 --> 00:33:57,333
Speaker 16: Sometimes it's a seasonal thing. Sometimes we just.

634
00:33:57,413 --> 00:33:59,693
Speaker 17: At the end of winter, we're a bit sick of

635
00:33:59,733 --> 00:34:02,773
Speaker 17: the winter fear. We haven't quite hit our straps with

636
00:34:02,853 --> 00:34:06,653
Speaker 17: some of the beautiful summer fair that's up ahead. I

637
00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:10,773
Speaker 17: took myself away Jack down to Waipunamu, down to the

638
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Speaker 17: South Island, and because of.

639
00:34:12,693 --> 00:34:13,893
Speaker 16: That, I wasn't in my own kitchen.

640
00:34:13,893 --> 00:34:15,453
Speaker 17: I had to eat out a little bit, and I

641
00:34:15,653 --> 00:34:19,333
Speaker 17: just got hugely inspired. I was in Queenstown. I went

642
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Speaker 17: to Sherwood, which is one of my favorite restaurants down there,

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00:34:22,733 --> 00:34:24,933
Speaker 17: and for example, I had a lot to eat there

644
00:34:25,053 --> 00:34:26,253
Speaker 17: as I would dining alone.

645
00:34:26,453 --> 00:34:29,373
Speaker 16: Ordered everything, but one thing, for example, was.

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Speaker 17: A salad that I had which was made out of

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Speaker 17: whitloof or indeed, there's those little boat.

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Speaker 2: Shape yet dive.

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Speaker 11: There you go, one of us is right.

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Speaker 9: I love it.

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Speaker 17: And this was lay it up on a plate with

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Speaker 17: some little slices of pear on it, some flakes of almonds,

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Speaker 17: and then the beautiful, very honeyed vinagrette over it.

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Speaker 16: And I had it three times in the three days

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Speaker 16: that I was.

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Speaker 17: There because it was so damn juicy and delicious. And

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Speaker 17: I've come home, I'm recreating this in my own kitchen,

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Speaker 17: just with some cos lettus.

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Speaker 2: I can't sitify.

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Speaker 17: It's called a whitloff, and then we both get out

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Speaker 17: of dale because it's the same. So eating out is

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Speaker 17: one beautiful way I think to get inspired. But there

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Speaker 17: are less expensive ways to doing that. One is obviously

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Speaker 17: through social media. These days, I do do a bit

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Speaker 17: of scrolling, and I you know, I'll look at a

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Speaker 17: cake and I'll think, oh my goodness, I forgot about

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Speaker 17: hummingbird cake.

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Speaker 16: And now, sitting on my bench as we speak, I've

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Speaker 16: got a hummingbird.

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Speaker 17: I've sort of taken it up a notch, which we'll

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Speaker 17: do that rest me next week, taking it up a

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Speaker 17: notch with a brown butter icing frosting on it, and

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Speaker 17: it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 16: We can go to the library.

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Speaker 9: I do that often.

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Speaker 17: They also went to the Wanica Library when I was

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Speaker 17: there and just picked up a food book and was

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Speaker 17: just flicking through that and was reminded, Oh, that's right,

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Speaker 17: there's kale in the world, and you don't always just

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Speaker 17: have to have it as a leaf.

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Speaker 16: And so I've made some kale pisto.

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Speaker 17: So I'm just giving our listeners a sort of idea of,

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Speaker 17: you know, where you can start if you're feeling a

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Speaker 17: bit stale.

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Speaker 16: Generally, you're not.

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Speaker 17: Going to find inspiration by looking in your own fridge

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Speaker 17: again or in your own cupboard again, unless you dive

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Speaker 17: to the back and discover the currants and the pine

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Speaker 17: nuts and you're reminded of all a lovely little salad

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Speaker 17: with that or something.

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Speaker 16: But just to step outside your usual realm in some way,

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Speaker 16: and you know, we live in a time where that

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Speaker 16: is so dead.

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Speaker 17: Easy to do, you know, and get a little notepad,

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Speaker 17: you know, watch an old Jamie Oliver rerun. You know,

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Speaker 17: flip through Instagram, but have a little notepad beside you

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Speaker 17: so that you can actually be going.

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Speaker 16: I'm going to make those chicken and spinach meat balls.

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Speaker 17: I'm going to make that list shoecake, the keys, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 17: that as well as looking at the produced carrots are

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Speaker 17: amazing at the moment. Yeah, so you know, little carrot salad,

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Speaker 17: roasted carrots with a tahini dressing and something.

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Speaker 2: Hey, very quickly, we're gonna have to shoot a second.

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Speaker 2: What should ask don Hey she's with us after teen.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll tell you what not to ask you.

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Speaker 16: Don't ask you what if favorite dishes? But again today,

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Speaker 16: I guess you could ask her what?

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Speaker 8: Ask her what.

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Speaker 17: Inspires her these days compared with say teen or twenty

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Speaker 17: years ago when she was younger.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good question.

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Speaker 14: I'd like to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, I'll do that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Oh I love Dona Hay's.

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Speaker 17: She is an inspiration, that is for sure. Her food

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Speaker 17: has changed over time, as we all do. If anything,

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Speaker 17: we get a little bit more simple in our cooking

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Speaker 17: as we get old, and nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 16: Just pure good ingredients.

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Speaker 17: So I hope we've given some ideas and I'm sure

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Speaker 17: John will have some ideas for listeners.

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Speaker 2: Too fantastic, too right. She's an inspiration, as are you, Nikki.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Nicky wiks there.

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Speaker 1: In the kitchen for a seven to ten giving you

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Speaker 1: the inside scoop on all you need to us Saturday

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Speaker 2: It'd be we learning languages. Jack says Michelle, we are

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Speaker 2: a bilingual family from immigrants. Just out of interest, as

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Speaker 2: your wife speak Iranian? If so, has she passed it

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Speaker 2: on to her son because you didn't mention them in

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Speaker 2: the languages that he can speak. So she speaks Farsi, yep.

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Speaker 2: But she she says, she speaks it like a five

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Speaker 2: year old. But then when I see her speak it

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Speaker 2: to her grandparents or to her mum, I'm always like, well,

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Speaker 2: you sound better than a five year old to me.

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Speaker 2: But of course I can't understand any of it. So

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Speaker 2: she's like, no, no, it's so embarrassing. I'm doing such

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Speaker 2: a bad job. So truthfully, our boy and I are

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Speaker 2: not good Persian speakers. I know how to say thanks Merci,

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Speaker 2: that's an easy one. I know how to say kiss, boose,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a wee way to go on the Persian.

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Speaker 2: Given how much I struggled with Spanish, which is Latin derivative,

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Speaker 2: then I yeah, I shuddered to think it. How poor

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Speaker 2: I would be studying PHARISEI. But if you have any

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Speaker 2: tips on learning languages, I am all ears. Right after

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Speaker 2: the news this morning, legendary culinary my stro master Dona

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Speaker 2: Hay is gonna be with us live. Cannot wait for

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Speaker 2: that news is next, so it's almost ten on News Talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your seat Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 2: More koto you with Jack Tame, Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 2: to news Talks. He'd be Donahey is a bona fide

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Speaker 2: culinary legend, known of course for her fresh and vibrant

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Speaker 2: ingredient choices, her beautiful but minimalistic approach to food styling,

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Speaker 2: and recipes that are grounded in reality for those of us,

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Speaker 2: myself included, who are busy but still want to eat well.

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Speaker 2: So if you like the sound of one pan undone lasagna,

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Speaker 2: crunchy Chipotle chicken tray bake and sticky pork belly that's

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Speaker 2: tasty and on Golden Crunch. Then Donna's new book, Too

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Speaker 2: Easy is going to be a bit of you and

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Speaker 2: Donna Hey is with us live this morning. Kilda, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 14: Thanks Jack morning.

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Speaker 2: It's so good to be speaking with you. I know

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Speaker 2: so many of our listeners are really excited. I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to start with a big question. Where does the

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Speaker 2: inspo come from?

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Speaker 5: Is it you?

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Speaker 2: Is it the publisher? Is someone saying, Donna, can you

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Speaker 2: write a book about this? Or do you automatically know

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Speaker 2: when you're publishing something new the kind of themes that

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Speaker 2: you want to extol through your recipes.

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Speaker 18: I wish it was that easy. It's kind of a

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Speaker 18: combination of all of it. You know, I'm a busy

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Speaker 18: working mum. I have friends who are asking me questions

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Speaker 18: all the time, and then of course my publisher is involved.

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Speaker 14: But you know, as you mentioned in your intro.

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Speaker 18: The one pan under Lasagna, I realized I hadn't cooked

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Speaker 18: my children lasagna for a very very long time, because

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Speaker 18: even on the weekend, Jack, I am not coming home

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Speaker 18: and layering up that deliciousness and taking two hours out

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Speaker 18: of my life for it to be consumed by very

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Speaker 18: hungry boys in a matter of minutes.

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Speaker 13: So I kind of look at things that I want

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Speaker 13: to redo or is there a quicker way to do

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Speaker 13: this while getting all the you know, the gorgeous layers

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Speaker 13: and the younginness of lasagna, and how can I reinvent

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Speaker 13: mac and cheese?

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Speaker 14: Is there a better way to do this?

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Speaker 18: I cannot stand at the stove making cheese sauce for

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Speaker 18: my beautiful son who is addicted to mac and cheese anymore.

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Speaker 14: So you know, it's just I guess it's I guess

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Speaker 14: it's just life.

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Speaker 18: That kind of dictates what I'm going to try and

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Speaker 18: twist and turn into a great recipe.

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Speaker 2: Well see, that's I think there's the term right there,

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Speaker 2: twist and turn right, because it seems to me for

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Speaker 2: the way that you look at things as you are

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Speaker 2: often reimagining, right, so you're often tweaking and certainly and

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Speaker 2: too easy. That's the kind of approach you've taken. You've

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Speaker 2: you've found ways that are like really not convenience food necessarily,

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Speaker 2: but stuff that would take a bit longer for you know,

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Speaker 2: like if you can it's been two hours cooking at

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Speaker 2: lasagn you're an Actually there might be an easy way

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Speaker 2: to do things.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think you can find those shortcuts.

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Speaker 18: And and you said, I'm not in to process food,

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Speaker 18: but I think there are some things that you can

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Speaker 18: definitely keep in your pantry that just punch above their weight.

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Speaker 18: You know, things that you might only use, like wasabi

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Speaker 18: paste for example.

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Speaker 14: You know you think, oh, yeah, we just have that

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Speaker 14: with sushi.

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Speaker 18: Well, actually, when you add it to a dressing or

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Speaker 18: a marinade, it adds that extra zing and it doesn't

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Speaker 18: have to blow your head off like you know, Misa paste.

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Speaker 18: You know that adds just this extra layer to things.

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Speaker 18: And it's not just a single layer like a salty

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Speaker 18: soy or something. It's it's a lot more So I

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Speaker 18: think by you know, discovering those kind of flavors again

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Speaker 18: and adding them to things that you wouldn't expect like

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Speaker 18: dressings and marinades, I think it's the key to kind

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Speaker 18: of that shortcut we're.

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Speaker 14: All looking for.

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Speaker 2: How do you like to shop for ingredients?

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Speaker 18: Look, I always hit the fresh produce section first and

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Speaker 18: I kind of go from there because I am more

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Speaker 18: inspired by fresh produce. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 18: decide what's for dinner by saying, Hey, we're going to

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Speaker 18: have chicken. But I like to kind of hit the

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Speaker 18: fresh produce section and you know, there was just crazy, great,

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Speaker 18: really white, fantastic looking colliflower the other day. So I'm

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Speaker 18: the kind of person that piles that into my trolley

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Speaker 18: and we either make recipes with it when we get

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Speaker 18: to the studio or I come home and I get

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Speaker 18: on my own website luckily, and I kind of go

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Speaker 18: from there because I think, you know, when food is

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Speaker 18: so expensive, if you can just buy things that are

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Speaker 18: in season, because in season means that it's a lot

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Speaker 18: more inexpensive to buy, and you go from there, I

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Speaker 18: think it's a really smart way to start your cooking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually that's like a critical point right especially

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Speaker 2: right now. I think everyone in Australia and New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and many parts of the world is kind of feeling

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Speaker 2: the pinch at the moment. So do you have other

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Speaker 2: tips outside of outside of cooking sea, you know, using

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Speaker 2: seasonal ingredients for trying to have delicious meals but on

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Speaker 2: a pretty good budget.

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Speaker 14: You know, I would always say to start with the

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Speaker 14: veg first.

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Speaker 18: And I know this horrifies some people, but if you

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Speaker 18: replace a couple of meals with veg instead of always

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Speaker 18: going for a slab of chicken or beef or whatever you're.

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Speaker 14: Buying in the kind of meat aisle, you can really

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Speaker 14: save a lot of money.

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Speaker 18: And I love eating veg dishes, so I think, you know,

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Speaker 18: I think they should stand up to converting meat.

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Speaker 11: It is over.

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Speaker 14: So I always make them full.

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Speaker 18: Of flavor and you know, really texted and crunchy. They're

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Speaker 18: not insipid and just you know, not satisfying. I think

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Speaker 18: the keys are really good vege recipes. You eat it

867
00:44:59,333 --> 00:45:00,813
Speaker 18: and you go, oh, my goodness, this is so.

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00:45:01,013 --> 00:45:04,253
Speaker 14: Full of young Yeah. With the cauliflower, I coated it.

869
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Speaker 14: It's in the book.

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Speaker 18: I don't think I still stuck to script because I

871
00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:09,253
Speaker 18: didn't have a book at home. I gave it away

872
00:45:09,293 --> 00:45:11,893
Speaker 18: on the way home, which is so me. But it's

873
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Speaker 18: it was a tiny little bit of honey, smoky pepitka

874
00:45:15,973 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 18: coating that then you crisp.

875
00:45:18,373 --> 00:45:21,013
Speaker 14: Up on the outside of the couliflower and so addictive.

876
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean that's beautiful A And yeah, it's kind

877
00:45:26,613 --> 00:45:30,973
Speaker 19: of a It's a relatively simple combination, but there's such

878
00:45:31,013 --> 00:45:32,853
Speaker 19: a richness in that day, especially with the.

879
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Speaker 18: Yeah, and then the tahini makes such a great crust

880
00:45:36,213 --> 00:45:37,653
Speaker 18: on the outside of the cauliflower.

881
00:45:38,093 --> 00:45:39,533
Speaker 14: They've got this beautiful.

882
00:45:39,093 --> 00:45:41,773
Speaker 18: Brown crunch on the outside, and then you know, the

883
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:43,733
Speaker 18: softer coliflower on the inside.

884
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you boys cock?

885
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Speaker 18: You know, there's a funny thing about boys is that

886
00:45:49,373 --> 00:45:51,933
Speaker 18: they will cook when they're starving, which in my case,

887
00:45:51,973 --> 00:45:54,133
Speaker 18: in my house, as you can imagine, Jack, there's always

888
00:45:54,213 --> 00:45:55,893
Speaker 18: someone starving to death.

889
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Speaker 14: Of course, of course, yeah, they will, they will.

890
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Speaker 18: We've got a bit of an age range. The little

891
00:46:02,573 --> 00:46:04,453
Speaker 18: ones will cook with me. The big ones cook when

892
00:46:04,453 --> 00:46:05,653
Speaker 18: they're starving.

893
00:46:05,533 --> 00:46:08,653
Speaker 2: Right, So they're like, they're very much like cooking for

894
00:46:08,853 --> 00:46:12,733
Speaker 2: sustenance rather than than pleasure at the moment.

895
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm the way.

896
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:16,373
Speaker 18: And sometimes I see them with a little bit more

897
00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:20,853
Speaker 18: time they're making something elaborate. But I think as rebellious children,

898
00:46:21,773 --> 00:46:25,013
Speaker 18: they wouldn't follow one of my recipes yet. Yeah, unless

899
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:27,853
Speaker 18: they're baking like they want to. They want to impress me,

900
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Speaker 18: So they're usually making up some concoction of their own.

901
00:46:31,093 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 2: Oh that's good though, So they're creative about it, Yeah,

902
00:46:34,213 --> 00:46:34,533
Speaker 2: they are.

903
00:46:35,453 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 14: They definitely are.

904
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, successfully creative. If they're cooking up a concoction.

905
00:46:39,853 --> 00:46:42,173
Speaker 2: I do remember the meals that I made my appearance

906
00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:44,133
Speaker 2: as a kid, and I don't think they were they

907
00:46:44,213 --> 00:46:46,813
Speaker 2: were necessarily leaping to try them.

908
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Speaker 18: You know, let's just say, Jack, they're probably somewhere between

909
00:46:50,733 --> 00:46:55,213
Speaker 18: there and and edible, but they're eating them.

910
00:46:55,373 --> 00:47:01,253
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, so's there's something. Hey, what inspires

911
00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:04,173
Speaker 2: you today compared to say, teen or fifteen years ago.

912
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:10,013
Speaker 14: Oh, that's a really good question.

913
00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:14,853
Speaker 18: I think maybe there's more environmental impacts and other impacts

914
00:47:14,973 --> 00:47:17,253
Speaker 18: just in the background that I don't spook about.

915
00:47:17,693 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 2: Interesting, tell us more about that time.

916
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Speaker 18: Well, we just touched on the veggio recipes, right, So

917
00:47:23,253 --> 00:47:25,573
Speaker 18: not everyone in my house is happy to eat veg

918
00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:30,773
Speaker 18: I have big six foot three, you know, teenage boys,

919
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:31,733
Speaker 18: so they're like.

920
00:47:31,893 --> 00:47:33,053
Speaker 14: What, I'm not doing that?

921
00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 18: So I think, you know, there's a lot to be

922
00:47:36,013 --> 00:47:38,213
Speaker 18: said about our food chain and where it comes from

923
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:41,053
Speaker 18: without getting down that wormhole. But you know, I really

924
00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:46,813
Speaker 18: try and deliver recipes that maybe just have a little

925
00:47:46,973 --> 00:47:50,693
Speaker 18: less chicken breast than WEAR sort of have somehow got

926
00:47:50,813 --> 00:47:54,013
Speaker 18: used to eating. So I'm mindful of the guidelines. Is Okay,

927
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:57,613
Speaker 18: we need this much steak or chicken and stuff, So

928
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Speaker 18: I kind of do that in the background, but I

929
00:47:59,933 --> 00:48:03,253
Speaker 18: don't just leave things out. I will add something else

930
00:48:03,333 --> 00:48:07,053
Speaker 18: in to make that feel like a really satisfying me. Yeah,

931
00:48:07,173 --> 00:48:09,893
Speaker 18: but I don't, you know, it's I've kind of feel

932
00:48:10,173 --> 00:48:11,373
Speaker 18: like you've touched on something.

933
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Speaker 14: Check.

934
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Speaker 18: I've kind of feel like it's my responsibility to be,

935
00:48:15,413 --> 00:48:17,453
Speaker 18: you know, to be a little bit more mindful of

936
00:48:17,573 --> 00:48:20,213
Speaker 18: those things. It's not just cost of living, it's health then,

937
00:48:20,573 --> 00:48:23,933
Speaker 18: and what habits have we fallen into? You know, how

938
00:48:24,013 --> 00:48:26,333
Speaker 18: big is that chicken breastack? Should you be eating the

939
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:29,413
Speaker 18: whole thing or is it not on our dietary guidelines?

940
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:30,173
Speaker 5: Yeah, and.

941
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Speaker 2: I think you're totally right. We have kind of maybe

942
00:48:34,733 --> 00:48:37,013
Speaker 2: just slipped into a bit of a place where a

943
00:48:37,093 --> 00:48:38,773
Speaker 2: lot of us think you have to have meat with

944
00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:41,933
Speaker 2: if we dinner, and actually there are many parts of

945
00:48:42,013 --> 00:48:44,453
Speaker 2: the world where you know, you might only have meat

946
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:45,573
Speaker 2: once a week if you're lucky.

947
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Speaker 18: Yeah, And we have fallen into that marketing of you know,

948
00:48:49,893 --> 00:48:52,253
Speaker 18: there's only protein in meat, and there's only all the

949
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Speaker 18: proteins in meat, and it was just marketing that should

950
00:48:54,733 --> 00:48:56,213
Speaker 18: have been stopped a long time ago.

951
00:48:57,373 --> 00:49:01,453
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. That's really interesting. Ear Fries so

952
00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:04,053
Speaker 2: and too easy. You have included some ear fry options.

953
00:49:04,133 --> 00:49:05,773
Speaker 2: How do you feel about ear fries?

954
00:49:07,053 --> 00:49:07,413
Speaker 14: I'm gay.

955
00:49:08,013 --> 00:49:11,093
Speaker 18: So my boys would come to me with their phones

956
00:49:11,293 --> 00:49:14,133
Speaker 18: because I have older boys social media, going Mum, can

957
00:49:14,213 --> 00:49:16,853
Speaker 18: we cook this off social media? I'd be like, no,

958
00:49:17,253 --> 00:49:22,573
Speaker 18: and that looks like it came. That's disgusting, look like, no,

959
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:23,613
Speaker 18: we're not buying an air fry.

960
00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:24,093
Speaker 14: We're not buying.

961
00:49:24,133 --> 00:49:27,293
Speaker 18: So resisted for so long, and then we were just

962
00:49:27,413 --> 00:49:30,013
Speaker 18: chatting in the office and I was like, Okay, why

963
00:49:30,053 --> 00:49:31,973
Speaker 18: don't we just buy one and see what the hype

964
00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:34,973
Speaker 18: is about, because you know the stats we got every

965
00:49:35,693 --> 00:49:37,853
Speaker 18: two in three households in America on an air fry.

966
00:49:38,733 --> 00:49:40,813
Speaker 18: You know, we were just being inundated with these stats.

967
00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:42,333
Speaker 18: I was like, Okay, we're gonna buy one. We're gonna

968
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,733
Speaker 18: buy one, We're gonna jump in. We're going to be

969
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:46,853
Speaker 18: those people. And as much as I would never throw

970
00:49:47,173 --> 00:49:49,373
Speaker 18: a whole chicken in my air fry, I'm just not

971
00:49:49,493 --> 00:49:51,973
Speaker 18: that person. I have a perfectly good oven jack in

972
00:49:52,093 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 18: a roasting pan, you know, and I do love the

973
00:49:54,413 --> 00:49:57,133
Speaker 18: process of cooking, so I'm not about to stick something

974
00:49:57,173 --> 00:50:00,653
Speaker 18: in a drawer and hope for the best. So what

975
00:50:00,813 --> 00:50:04,613
Speaker 18: we did find is that adding super crunch to things

976
00:50:05,333 --> 00:50:09,133
Speaker 18: and and a little bit of speed, that you could

977
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Speaker 18: make some things that were really great. I don't think

978
00:50:12,173 --> 00:50:15,693
Speaker 18: it's necessarily big chunks of protein, but little bites of

979
00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:18,533
Speaker 18: caramelized pork belly.

980
00:50:19,013 --> 00:50:20,853
Speaker 14: And then I do a.

981
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:23,213
Speaker 18: Pie just out of a flowered to a tilla that

982
00:50:23,333 --> 00:50:25,653
Speaker 18: you just stuff with ricotta and spinach, or you can

983
00:50:25,733 --> 00:50:28,973
Speaker 18: do you know, leftover chicken and ricotder and leftover veedge,

984
00:50:29,013 --> 00:50:30,813
Speaker 18: whatever you've got in the fridge and make these really

985
00:50:30,973 --> 00:50:33,293
Speaker 18: crunchy little pies in your air fryer.

986
00:50:33,653 --> 00:50:36,173
Speaker 14: Still, you know, still a great dinner.

987
00:50:36,293 --> 00:50:37,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, and full of nutrition.

988
00:50:37,853 --> 00:50:40,653
Speaker 18: But yeah, I kind of that chapter HONEYE Bought an

989
00:50:40,693 --> 00:50:44,293
Speaker 18: air Fryer is kind of my version of air fryer Jack.

990
00:50:44,493 --> 00:50:48,133
Speaker 14: Yeah, not my son's version of air.

991
00:50:48,053 --> 00:50:50,853
Speaker 2: Fry sure, But I mean it's like, because when ear

992
00:50:50,893 --> 00:50:53,293
Speaker 2: fries came out, I thought, oh, here we go. You know,

993
00:50:53,413 --> 00:50:55,733
Speaker 2: here's another The ear fries are going to be the

994
00:50:55,813 --> 00:50:59,333
Speaker 2: new popcorn makers. You know, just totally a totally unnecessary

995
00:51:00,493 --> 00:51:03,493
Speaker 2: kitchen implement. But I wonder if they've meant or you know,

996
00:51:03,613 --> 00:51:05,773
Speaker 2: even bread makers. I know that breed makers have kind

997
00:51:05,773 --> 00:51:07,693
Speaker 2: of come back a little bit, but you know, remember

998
00:51:07,733 --> 00:51:09,813
Speaker 2: when everyone had a breed maker in about two thousand

999
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:14,573
Speaker 2: and four. You know, I thought I was the new

1000
00:51:14,613 --> 00:51:17,053
Speaker 2: bread maker. But now but it feels like it's gone

1001
00:51:17,093 --> 00:51:21,133
Speaker 2: to the next level. And like you say, the recipes

1002
00:51:21,173 --> 00:51:23,373
Speaker 2: that you've shared and Too Easy for air Friers are

1003
00:51:23,453 --> 00:51:26,613
Speaker 2: kind of maybe it's air friers, but not like air

1004
00:51:26,693 --> 00:51:28,613
Speaker 2: fryer meals that you might see on Instagram.

1005
00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:29,573
Speaker 6: Is that fair?

1006
00:51:29,813 --> 00:51:32,893
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not my eighteen year old's TikTok

1007
00:51:32,973 --> 00:51:33,973
Speaker 18: feed y's for sure.

1008
00:51:34,213 --> 00:51:34,413
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1009
00:51:34,653 --> 00:51:35,933
Speaker 14: Yeah, Thank goodness.

1010
00:51:37,093 --> 00:51:40,613
Speaker 2: Well, look, congratulations on Too Easy, and thank you because

1011
00:51:40,653 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 2: I know so many people who'll be listening right now

1012
00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:47,293
Speaker 2: love your cooking and love your recipes, but they also

1013
00:51:47,413 --> 00:51:50,093
Speaker 2: love the idea of having a whole set of new,

1014
00:51:50,213 --> 00:51:53,733
Speaker 2: really easy, affordable recipes that they'll be able to share

1015
00:51:53,773 --> 00:51:56,093
Speaker 2: with their families. They look delicious. So we really appreciate

1016
00:51:56,173 --> 00:51:59,773
Speaker 2: your time. Thanks so much, Jack, really appreciate it. That

1017
00:51:59,893 --> 00:52:03,053
Speaker 2: is Dona Hay. Her new book is Too Easy and

1018
00:52:03,213 --> 00:52:04,853
Speaker 2: all of the details for it will be up on

1019
00:52:04,933 --> 00:52:07,493
Speaker 2: the news talks he'd b website. It's just coming up

1020
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Speaker 2: to twenty past ten.

1021
00:52:09,653 --> 00:52:13,093
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

1022
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Speaker 1: Taine and bpure dot code on inst for high quality

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Speaker 1: supplements used talk said, B.

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Speaker 2: You see that's journalism right there. That is journalism. The

1025
00:52:21,253 --> 00:52:24,333
Speaker 2: Keida journalism is to ask an expert like Nicki Wicks

1026
00:52:24,533 --> 00:52:27,053
Speaker 2: before your interview with Donna Hay, what you should be

1027
00:52:27,133 --> 00:52:30,453
Speaker 2: asking Donna Hay. Nicky says, ask Donahey, what inspires you

1028
00:52:30,533 --> 00:52:33,253
Speaker 2: today compared to ten years ago? You asked Dona Hey, hey, Donna,

1029
00:52:33,413 --> 00:52:35,813
Speaker 2: what inspires you compared to ten years ago? And she says,

1030
00:52:36,413 --> 00:52:41,253
Speaker 2: ooh great question. Oh how good. As tempted to say thanks,

1031
00:52:41,333 --> 00:52:45,333
Speaker 2: I came up with it myself. Twenty three minutes past

1032
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Speaker 2: ten on your Saturday morning, it is screen time time.

1033
00:52:48,173 --> 00:52:50,973
Speaker 2: Tara Ward is our screen time expert. She's got her

1034
00:52:51,053 --> 00:52:53,693
Speaker 2: picks for shows to watch to stream this week. Hey Tara,

1035
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,813
Speaker 2: good morning. Okay, let's begin with the show streaming on

1036
00:52:56,853 --> 00:52:58,973
Speaker 2: Apple tv Plus. Tell us about Disclaimer.

1037
00:52:59,613 --> 00:53:02,773
Speaker 21: Yeah, this is a new psychological thriller that's just landed

1038
00:53:02,853 --> 00:53:05,573
Speaker 21: on Apple TV Plus. It stars Kate Blanchett and is

1039
00:53:05,653 --> 00:53:10,093
Speaker 21: directed by Fonso Quiron, who has won numerous Academy Awards.

1040
00:53:10,133 --> 00:53:12,733
Speaker 21: He made film like Gravity and Harry Potter. So there's

1041
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:15,493
Speaker 21: some really big names attached to this show, and Kate

1042
00:53:15,573 --> 00:53:19,293
Speaker 21: Blanchett plays a famous documentary maker who one day receives

1043
00:53:19,373 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 21: a book in the mail and she discovers, to her

1044
00:53:22,013 --> 00:53:24,293
Speaker 21: horror that the book tells the story.

1045
00:53:24,053 --> 00:53:24,733
Speaker 10: Of her life.

1046
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:28,133
Speaker 21: It contains every secret she has, secrets she's been hiding

1047
00:53:28,173 --> 00:53:31,693
Speaker 21: for years, and secrets she obviously doesn't want anyone else

1048
00:53:31,733 --> 00:53:34,013
Speaker 21: to know about. And Kevin Klein is in this too.

1049
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,653
Speaker 21: He plays an elderly widower who discovers the manuscript of

1050
00:53:37,693 --> 00:53:40,093
Speaker 21: the book, which was written by his wife, and he

1051
00:53:40,253 --> 00:53:43,373
Speaker 21: publishes it in an act of revenge, sort of deliberately

1052
00:53:43,453 --> 00:53:46,933
Speaker 21: trying to take down Kate Blinchett's character. And the lives

1053
00:53:46,973 --> 00:53:48,813
Speaker 21: of these two people are going to cross again, just

1054
00:53:48,933 --> 00:53:52,013
Speaker 21: like they did twenty years ago when the secret occurred. Now,

1055
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Speaker 21: Kate Blanchett is amazing in this, as you would expect,

1056
00:53:54,933 --> 00:53:56,853
Speaker 21: and I think if she wasn't in this, this would

1057
00:53:56,853 --> 00:53:59,973
Speaker 21: feel a little bit more soapy and melodramatic, but she

1058
00:54:00,093 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 21: really elevates it. And because it's an Apple TV Plus show,

1059
00:54:03,653 --> 00:54:06,253
Speaker 21: it looks amazing. It's very glossy. It's filmed inside the

1060
00:54:06,493 --> 00:54:09,333
Speaker 21: beautiful London homes. A lot of it is shot in

1061
00:54:09,453 --> 00:54:13,053
Speaker 21: Venice and Italy as well, so visually it's gorgeous. I

1062
00:54:13,133 --> 00:54:15,733
Speaker 21: don't know if it will be tense enough to sustain

1063
00:54:16,013 --> 00:54:18,653
Speaker 21: seven episodes. It's not the most subtle of shows, at

1064
00:54:18,733 --> 00:54:20,853
Speaker 21: least in the first episode, but I liked where it

1065
00:54:20,933 --> 00:54:23,653
Speaker 21: started and I'm really keen to see where it goes cool.

1066
00:54:23,813 --> 00:54:27,213
Speaker 2: Okay, that's disclaimer. It's on Apple TV Plus on Neon.

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Speaker 2: You've seen Sweet Pea.

1068
00:54:29,253 --> 00:54:32,213
Speaker 21: Yeah, this is a very dark, quirky new comedy series

1069
00:54:32,293 --> 00:54:36,053
Speaker 21: that's made by the producers of Heart Stopper and Slow Horses.

1070
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Speaker 21: So we're already off to a good start. But it's

1071
00:54:38,613 --> 00:54:41,253
Speaker 21: a British comedy about a young woman in her twenties

1072
00:54:41,333 --> 00:54:45,853
Speaker 21: named Rhiannon and Rihanna is invisible. Nobody notices rhann And

1073
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Speaker 21: at work, or in her family, or in society. She's

1074
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Speaker 21: a very meek and mild kind of person, and when

1075
00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:54,933
Speaker 21: her father dies, has last words to her are to

1076
00:54:55,013 --> 00:54:58,133
Speaker 21: stand up for herself to be noticed, and his death

1077
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Speaker 21: sets rhann And on a new path.

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Speaker 10: It causes her to kind.

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Speaker 21: Of unleash twenty years of repressed rage and anger and

1080
00:55:05,693 --> 00:55:09,173
Speaker 21: she becomes this very unlikely serial killer. She has had

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00:55:09,293 --> 00:55:11,613
Speaker 21: enough and she has a long list of people who

1082
00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:15,133
Speaker 21: have done her wrong, and because she's overlooked and ignored

1083
00:55:15,173 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 21: by everyone, it means she manages to keep getting away

1084
00:55:17,813 --> 00:55:21,253
Speaker 21: with murder. If you like your comedy really dark and

1085
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:24,533
Speaker 21: a bit bleak, but still very sharp and funny and quirky,

1086
00:55:24,613 --> 00:55:26,133
Speaker 21: you will love this. It reminded me a bit of

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00:55:27,093 --> 00:55:30,533
Speaker 21: Dexter or Killing Eve. It is a little bit violent,

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00:55:30,613 --> 00:55:32,893
Speaker 21: but I think because it's a British comedy, it's got

1089
00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:35,653
Speaker 21: that sort of self deprecating quality to it and it

1090
00:55:35,693 --> 00:55:38,893
Speaker 21: doesn't take itself too seriously, which kind of balances out all.

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Speaker 16: The dark stuff.

1092
00:55:39,973 --> 00:55:42,773
Speaker 21: They've called this a coming of rage story, so you

1093
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:44,413
Speaker 21: know it's dark, but it's also a lot of fun.

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00:55:44,573 --> 00:55:47,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Okay, that's sweet. Pea on neon and can't

1095
00:55:47,693 --> 00:55:49,613
Speaker 2: wait for this the new series of The Restaurant That

1096
00:55:49,693 --> 00:55:50,493
Speaker 2: Makes Mistakes.

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00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 21: Yes, this is a new season of the show that

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00:55:53,413 --> 00:55:57,413
Speaker 21: started on TVNZ plus a TVNZ last year. It's based

1099
00:55:57,493 --> 00:55:59,853
Speaker 21: on a Japanese format which then went to the UK

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00:56:00,013 --> 00:56:02,973
Speaker 21: and then came to New Zealand and It's an observational

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00:56:03,053 --> 00:56:06,053
Speaker 21: documentary series about a group of New Zealand volunteers who

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Speaker 21: have all been diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's and who

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00:56:09,773 --> 00:56:12,893
Speaker 21: come together to run a restaurant. So it's overseen by

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00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:15,773
Speaker 21: Ben Bailey, who's an award winning chef, and he opens

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00:56:15,853 --> 00:56:19,213
Speaker 21: up his restaurant in Auckland, and over a few weeks,

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00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:23,693
Speaker 21: these volunteers gradually learn new skills about how to prepare

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00:56:23,773 --> 00:56:26,173
Speaker 21: and cook meals and how to welcome guests and take

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00:56:26,333 --> 00:56:28,533
Speaker 21: orders and that they're running the whole thing by the

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00:56:28,653 --> 00:56:31,013
Speaker 21: end of it. And the series wants us to see

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Speaker 21: dementia in a different light. It wants to show us

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00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:37,213
Speaker 21: that people with dementia still have a really important place

1112
00:56:37,253 --> 00:56:40,733
Speaker 21: in society, they still have valuable skills and contributions to make.

1113
00:56:41,573 --> 00:56:44,053
Speaker 21: It's made with the support of Dementia New Zealand, and

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00:56:44,733 --> 00:56:49,333
Speaker 21: it's just a really emotional and heartwarming and thought provoking series.

1115
00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:52,013
Speaker 21: It's done in a very gentle and warm way, and

1116
00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:54,653
Speaker 21: there's these wonderful moments of humor in there as well,

1117
00:56:54,733 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 21: but just such a beautiful show. Season two starts on

1118
00:56:58,373 --> 00:57:00,933
Speaker 21: Monday night, but season one is on TVZ Plus.

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00:57:01,053 --> 00:57:03,213
Speaker 2: Now Yeah, yeah, so good. I can't wife for that. Hey,

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00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:06,053
Speaker 2: I just finished this week, and you know how I'm

1121
00:57:06,053 --> 00:57:10,173
Speaker 2: always miles behind with everything. I've just finished season two

1122
00:57:10,293 --> 00:57:12,413
Speaker 2: of The Beer. So there's three seasons of The Beer.

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Speaker 2: I've just seen season two. It was amazing. It was amazing,

1124
00:57:16,773 --> 00:57:20,893
Speaker 2: tar Like I just found myself, like, you know, you

1125
00:57:21,013 --> 00:57:22,853
Speaker 2: watch it at night time, and then I would find

1126
00:57:22,853 --> 00:57:24,333
Speaker 2: myself wake up at three o'clock in the morning and

1127
00:57:24,333 --> 00:57:25,933
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, oh, my gosh, it was such

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00:57:25,933 --> 00:57:28,293
Speaker 2: an amazing episode. And then the next day I would

1129
00:57:28,293 --> 00:57:30,053
Speaker 2: get to work and it would be like eleven am.

1130
00:57:30,413 --> 00:57:31,933
Speaker 2: And I just want to talk to people about The

1131
00:57:31,973 --> 00:57:35,053
Speaker 2: Beer constantly. Is it really, you know, really stuck with me?

1132
00:57:36,093 --> 00:57:36,813
Speaker 10: Such a great show.

1133
00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:38,773
Speaker 21: And I'll be interested to hear what you think about

1134
00:57:38,813 --> 00:57:40,733
Speaker 21: season three when you get to that, because that's been

1135
00:57:40,813 --> 00:57:42,253
Speaker 21: quite a polarizing Yeah.

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00:57:42,213 --> 00:57:44,853
Speaker 2: It sounds like it has. Yeah, Okay, I'm a bit

1137
00:57:44,893 --> 00:57:48,013
Speaker 2: anxious about it actually given it so polarizing, but yeah,

1138
00:57:48,093 --> 00:57:50,133
Speaker 2: my gosh, it is a remarkable series. So thank you

1139
00:57:50,253 --> 00:57:54,333
Speaker 2: very much. We will put all of those recommendations disclaimer

1140
00:57:54,573 --> 00:57:57,373
Speaker 2: Sweet Pea and the restaurant that makes mistakes up on

1141
00:57:57,493 --> 00:57:59,693
Speaker 2: the News Talk He'd be website. It is just coming

1142
00:57:59,773 --> 00:58:00,493
Speaker 2: up to ten thirty.

1143
00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:08,733
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started Saturday morning with Jack Team on

1144
00:58:08,933 --> 00:58:09,533
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1145
00:58:09,733 --> 00:58:38,693
Speaker 2: B So, No, I love you so ah, so good.

1146
00:58:39,373 --> 00:58:44,133
Speaker 2: As a band, Coldplay have transitioned from the melancholic ballads

1147
00:58:44,173 --> 00:58:47,733
Speaker 2: of their early albums to starr eyed, stadium anthems. Now

1148
00:58:47,773 --> 00:58:50,733
Speaker 2: they've just dropped their tenth album, The Tenth Chris Martin

1149
00:58:50,733 --> 00:58:52,133
Speaker 2: next he says he's only going to do two more.

1150
00:58:52,173 --> 00:58:55,053
Speaker 2: He reckons that twelve albums and Coldplay will be done.

1151
00:58:55,493 --> 00:58:57,133
Speaker 2: And I don't know their music over the last couple

1152
00:58:57,133 --> 00:59:02,013
Speaker 2: of years, it hasn't excited me as much as their

1153
00:59:02,053 --> 00:59:05,973
Speaker 2: first albums. I honestly reckon that Coldplay's first three albums

1154
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:08,333
Speaker 2: or all three, would be in my top ten albums

1155
00:59:08,373 --> 00:59:10,493
Speaker 2: of all time American. Their first three albums are just

1156
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:14,773
Speaker 2: incredible anyway. You know, they've really like leaned into stadium

1157
00:59:14,813 --> 00:59:16,333
Speaker 2: rock and look nothing wrong with that. You know, they

1158
00:59:16,373 --> 00:59:20,293
Speaker 2: have the whole like led wristband thing, and their gigs

1159
00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:23,893
Speaker 2: are absolutely enormous. The atmosphere at them is incredible. They're

1160
00:59:23,893 --> 00:59:26,613
Speaker 2: doing three nights I think at Edon Park is starting

1161
00:59:26,733 --> 00:59:29,133
Speaker 2: next month. Anyway, they've got a brand new album so

1162
00:59:29,373 --> 00:59:32,693
Speaker 2: perfectly timed for their New Zealand tour. The album is

1163
00:59:32,773 --> 00:59:35,093
Speaker 2: called Moon Music, and we're going to have a bit

1164
00:59:35,093 --> 00:59:37,133
Speaker 2: of a listen to that before midday today. So the

1165
00:59:37,213 --> 00:59:41,293
Speaker 2: news this morning from Mount Everest is that the remains

1166
00:59:41,653 --> 00:59:44,693
Speaker 2: of Sandy Irvine have been discovered, or appear to have

1167
00:59:44,813 --> 00:59:48,253
Speaker 2: been discovered. Now, Sandy Irvine was a climber who attempted

1168
00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:51,613
Speaker 2: to climb Mount Everest with George Mallory in nineteen twenty four,

1169
00:59:51,973 --> 00:59:57,373
Speaker 2: So yeah, like decades before Hillary Intenzing made it to

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00:59:57,453 --> 00:59:59,933
Speaker 2: the top. It's never been totally clear if they made

1171
00:59:59,973 --> 01:00:02,893
Speaker 2: it or not. George Mallory was a really really accomplished mountaineer.

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01:00:03,173 --> 01:00:06,133
Speaker 2: He tried to climb it with Sandy Irvine. George Mallory's

1173
01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:09,373
Speaker 2: remains were found about twenty twenty five years ago, and

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Speaker 2: it wasn't clear from his remains whether or not they'd

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01:00:11,573 --> 01:00:15,413
Speaker 2: made the top. Sandy irvine remains hadn't been found, although

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01:00:15,453 --> 01:00:18,053
Speaker 2: Sandy Irvine had been carrying a camera, so a lot

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Speaker 2: of people thought, oh well, if we could find his

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01:00:20,013 --> 01:00:22,613
Speaker 2: remains and find the camera, there might be photographic evidence

1179
01:00:22,653 --> 01:00:25,093
Speaker 2: that these two reach the top of Mount Everest before

1180
01:00:25,173 --> 01:00:28,973
Speaker 2: Hillary Intensing. Anyway, the news from Mount Everest is that

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Speaker 2: Sandy Irvine's remains have been found. It's a little bit macarb.

1182
01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:36,053
Speaker 2: It's one of those sort of strange things. It is

1183
01:00:36,213 --> 01:00:40,453
Speaker 2: a really momentous discovery, but obviously, you know there's an

1184
01:00:40,453 --> 01:00:44,933
Speaker 2: emotional discovery for Sandy Yrvine's family as well. Interestingly, the

1185
01:00:45,053 --> 01:00:47,573
Speaker 2: person who found the remains is a friend of the show.

1186
01:00:48,093 --> 01:00:51,893
Speaker 2: Jimmy Chin, the Oscar winning director who has been with

1187
01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:55,213
Speaker 2: us on Saturday Mornings before, was up filming a documentary

1188
01:00:55,253 --> 01:00:57,773
Speaker 2: for National Geographic on Mount Everest when he made the

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01:00:57,853 --> 01:01:01,053
Speaker 2: discovery of a boot. Inside the boot was a sock.

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01:01:01,453 --> 01:01:06,733
Speaker 2: The sock had Sandy Irvine's initials engraved on the inside. Now,

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01:01:07,413 --> 01:01:09,493
Speaker 2: at the moment, they haven't found any other remains, they

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01:01:09,533 --> 01:01:12,413
Speaker 2: haven't found a camera or anything like that. But yeah,

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01:01:12,533 --> 01:01:16,013
Speaker 2: certainly it's it's a significant discovery and it will be

1194
01:01:16,093 --> 01:01:20,693
Speaker 2: interesting to see if as more of the glacier melt

1195
01:01:21,173 --> 01:01:24,533
Speaker 2: on man Everest, if any further remains are discovered, and

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01:01:25,053 --> 01:01:28,813
Speaker 2: if it gives us any more indication as to whether

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01:01:28,893 --> 01:01:31,013
Speaker 2: or not Mallory and Irvine made it to the top

1198
01:01:31,053 --> 01:01:33,933
Speaker 2: of mand Everest in nineteen twenty four. Right now it

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Speaker 2: is twenty five minutes to eleven. You were Jack Tame

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01:01:36,493 --> 01:01:39,373
Speaker 2: on News Talks, he'd be our text Bert with Elon

1201
01:01:39,533 --> 01:01:40,933
Speaker 2: Musk's latest announcement.

1202
01:01:41,213 --> 01:01:46,013
Speaker 1: Next putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

1203
01:01:45,773 --> 01:01:48,413
Speaker 22: Breakfast Crown account numbers remind us it's all still a mess.

1204
01:01:48,493 --> 01:01:50,333
Speaker 22: The deficit blew out to twelve point nine bill and

1205
01:01:50,373 --> 01:01:52,653
Speaker 22: former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce is whether us the two

1206
01:01:52,693 --> 01:01:55,453
Speaker 22: point four that Nicholas shackled herself, whethers she asked for

1207
01:01:55,533 --> 01:01:57,453
Speaker 22: trouble on that. Given it's already spent and we're not

1208
01:01:57,533 --> 01:01:58,493
Speaker 22: even into next year.

1209
01:01:58,453 --> 01:02:00,373
Speaker 8: It's going to be very tough. And I heard the

1210
01:02:00,533 --> 01:02:03,133
Speaker 8: eat you guys saying they're terrible. You know, we shouldn't

1211
01:02:03,133 --> 01:02:05,453
Speaker 8: have cut the fairies. I shouldn't pretty calculated and even

1212
01:02:05,493 --> 01:02:09,053
Speaker 8: hospital reason for hat mets because you've doubled debt in

1213
01:02:09,373 --> 01:02:12,493
Speaker 8: six years and now you're running a deficit of twelve

1214
01:02:12,493 --> 01:02:14,973
Speaker 8: point nine billion. The answer to his question is, well,

1215
01:02:15,013 --> 01:02:16,813
Speaker 8: you should have got your mate Grant to be under

1216
01:02:16,933 --> 01:02:19,413
Speaker 8: much greater control three or four years ago, and maybe

1217
01:02:19,413 --> 01:02:21,413
Speaker 8: we wouldn't be having to make these sorts of decisions.

1218
01:02:21,733 --> 01:02:24,733
Speaker 22: Mag Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

1219
01:02:24,813 --> 01:02:27,053
Speaker 22: the Rain drover of the last News Talk ZB.

1220
01:02:27,093 --> 01:02:29,773
Speaker 2: Twenty three to eleven on News Talk ZB overnight. Elon

1221
01:02:29,893 --> 01:02:33,493
Speaker 2: Musk has held a robo event with all sorts of

1222
01:02:34,013 --> 01:02:38,733
Speaker 2: new product and designs, including robotaxis, robo vans, and something

1223
01:02:38,853 --> 01:02:43,373
Speaker 2: called a humanoid. Texpert Paul stenhouses here with the details.

1224
01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:45,213
Speaker 2: What on earth is a humanoid?

1225
01:02:45,293 --> 01:02:45,533
Speaker 4: Paul?

1226
01:02:46,453 --> 01:02:49,173
Speaker 23: Yeah, So, if you've ever seen Will Smith's movie I

1227
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:52,213
Speaker 23: Robot came out in two thousand and four, it's usually,

1228
01:02:52,373 --> 01:02:54,493
Speaker 23: you know, a good classic to watch when you've got

1229
01:02:54,893 --> 01:02:58,413
Speaker 23: not whole lot else on in the queue. That is

1230
01:02:58,533 --> 01:03:01,573
Speaker 23: basically what Elon Musk says you're going to be able

1231
01:03:01,653 --> 01:03:04,573
Speaker 23: to buy by the end of twenty twenty five.

1232
01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:06,093
Speaker 9: Now hopefully it's the good.

1233
01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:10,173
Speaker 23: One and not the bad ones robot, but he is

1234
01:03:10,333 --> 01:03:13,893
Speaker 23: calling it the biggest product ever, right, He's saying it

1235
01:03:13,973 --> 01:03:16,893
Speaker 23: as an autonomous assistant.

1236
01:03:16,773 --> 01:03:18,253
Speaker 8: And a humanoid friend.

1237
01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:20,813
Speaker 9: And let me say, I.

1238
01:03:22,453 --> 01:03:25,893
Speaker 23: Saw the headline, saw the video and thought I was

1239
01:03:25,973 --> 01:03:29,213
Speaker 23: kind of skeptical, I'll be honest, pushed play on the

1240
01:03:29,293 --> 01:03:34,453
Speaker 23: video and was maybe terrified, but he may be amazed,

1241
01:03:34,653 --> 01:03:37,733
Speaker 23: I don't know. Right, So, these this robot started to

1242
01:03:37,773 --> 01:03:39,533
Speaker 23: have it lookause it looks like a robot, looks like

1243
01:03:39,613 --> 01:03:42,333
Speaker 23: a human. It looks it's got arms and legs, and

1244
01:03:42,413 --> 01:03:46,413
Speaker 23: it's got like a rotator thing where it's hipstar, so

1245
01:03:46,493 --> 01:03:49,493
Speaker 23: its body can swivel around and it it was having

1246
01:03:49,533 --> 01:03:52,093
Speaker 23: a conversation with someone and it looked.

1247
01:03:51,893 --> 01:03:55,253
Speaker 7: At them, It engaged with them. It spoke to them

1248
01:03:55,613 --> 01:03:57,213
Speaker 7: in like a cadence.

1249
01:03:56,813 --> 01:03:59,053
Speaker 2: And tone that was just off puttingly normal.

1250
01:03:59,173 --> 01:04:00,213
Speaker 16: I don't know how I was to put it.

1251
01:04:00,773 --> 01:04:02,693
Speaker 23: And then I was reading an article on it said

1252
01:04:02,733 --> 01:04:07,053
Speaker 23: that one event attend told this robe that it was

1253
01:04:07,093 --> 01:04:09,453
Speaker 23: doing a good job as it was pouring it a

1254
01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:10,933
Speaker 23: cocktail from a keg.

1255
01:04:11,773 --> 01:04:13,533
Speaker 2: Yeah right, true, okay, story.

1256
01:04:13,733 --> 01:04:16,373
Speaker 23: Yeah, the robot looked up and said, you want to

1257
01:04:16,373 --> 01:04:18,453
Speaker 23: get a photo, and then made a peace sign with

1258
01:04:18,573 --> 01:04:20,373
Speaker 23: its hands, like ready for the photo.

1259
01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:20,973
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1260
01:04:21,293 --> 01:04:21,733
Speaker 7: Crazy.

1261
01:04:21,933 --> 01:04:24,933
Speaker 23: So Emil Musk had them at this event. They were dancing,

1262
01:04:25,013 --> 01:04:28,253
Speaker 23: they were serving cocktails, they were chatting with people. They

1263
01:04:28,333 --> 01:04:31,333
Speaker 23: showed a video where he's trying to position them. I

1264
01:04:31,413 --> 01:04:33,653
Speaker 23: guess is almost like Rosy from the Jetsons.

1265
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:34,253
Speaker 7: I guess.

1266
01:04:34,413 --> 01:04:38,973
Speaker 23: Yeah, you know, being able to what are your plants,

1267
01:04:39,053 --> 01:04:43,973
Speaker 23: collect your packages, clean up the kitchen after dinner, unpack

1268
01:04:44,053 --> 01:04:46,293
Speaker 23: your groceries, or play a board.

1269
01:04:46,053 --> 01:04:46,973
Speaker 7: Game with the kids.

1270
01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:50,333
Speaker 2: So he said, he said on X quote, it will

1271
01:04:50,373 --> 01:04:52,253
Speaker 2: be able to do anything you want. It can be

1272
01:04:52,333 --> 01:04:55,733
Speaker 2: a teacher, babysit your kids, walk your dog, mow your lawn,

1273
01:04:55,893 --> 01:04:58,773
Speaker 2: get the groceries. Just be your friend. Whatever you can

1274
01:04:58,893 --> 01:04:59,693
Speaker 2: think of, it will do.

1275
01:05:00,173 --> 01:05:01,213
Speaker 6: Be your friend.

1276
01:05:01,453 --> 01:05:01,653
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1277
01:05:02,693 --> 01:05:05,413
Speaker 2: So these are going to cost at the moment, what

1278
01:05:05,613 --> 01:05:08,013
Speaker 2: like four what your fifty grand or something.

1279
01:05:07,853 --> 01:05:10,373
Speaker 23: Like that, so New Zealand dollars. Yeah, I'm saying somewhere between,

1280
01:05:10,453 --> 01:05:12,813
Speaker 23: like and there's a lofty goal, right. They think they're

1281
01:05:12,853 --> 01:05:15,173
Speaker 23: gonna have them ready by the end of twenty twenty five. Yeah,

1282
01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:17,173
Speaker 23: he's saying it's going to be less than the price

1283
01:05:17,213 --> 01:05:20,053
Speaker 23: of a car. Now, don't get me wrong, that's a

1284
01:05:20,573 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 23: rather large price tag.

1285
01:05:22,253 --> 01:05:26,773
Speaker 11: Yes, if it can do all of those things, I

1286
01:05:26,893 --> 01:05:28,053
Speaker 11: guess it'll pay for.

1287
01:05:28,133 --> 01:05:29,213
Speaker 23: Itself pretty quickly.

1288
01:05:29,333 --> 01:05:29,693
Speaker 7: I guess.

1289
01:05:30,333 --> 01:05:30,573
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1290
01:05:30,693 --> 01:05:33,333
Speaker 7: I mean imagine the field because here's so, here's here's

1291
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Speaker 7: the cell.

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01:05:33,853 --> 01:05:33,973
Speaker 25: Right.

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01:05:34,053 --> 01:05:37,733
Speaker 23: The marketing materials are saying they should be taking on

1294
01:05:38,013 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 23: the dangerous and the boring tasks in your life. Right

1295
01:05:41,533 --> 01:05:44,093
Speaker 23: if you're a business owner, right, what are those like

1296
01:05:44,253 --> 01:05:48,613
Speaker 23: really boring, really repetitive tasks that you could I mean,

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Speaker 23: that's a pretty fifty grand these robots. Yes, that's a salary,

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01:05:53,893 --> 01:05:56,893
Speaker 23: it is, Yeah, I mean it's always that's where we're

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Speaker 23: going and I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be the guy who says this

1301
01:05:58,973 --> 01:06:01,533
Speaker 2: isn't going to happen. But I am acutely aware that

1302
01:06:01,613 --> 01:06:03,253
Speaker 2: Elon Musk was the one who said that we would

1303
01:06:03,253 --> 01:06:07,173
Speaker 2: all have like fully autonomous vee was about seven or

1304
01:06:07,173 --> 01:06:10,333
Speaker 2: eight years ago, right, and we aren't quite there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1305
01:06:10,413 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1306
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Speaker 11: The robocab looked kind of cool.

1307
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Speaker 2: Though it did look kind of cool. Just explain the robocab.

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Speaker 23: So the robocab, imagine a car, no steering wheel, no pedals,

1309
01:06:20,213 --> 01:06:23,373
Speaker 23: just two seats and a G G enormous screen sitting

1310
01:06:23,413 --> 01:06:24,933
Speaker 23: in front of you, and you tell it where you

1311
01:06:25,013 --> 01:06:26,773
Speaker 23: want to go in a way it goes. But then

1312
01:06:26,813 --> 01:06:29,933
Speaker 23: there's the robo van Jack with right looks like a

1313
01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:35,253
Speaker 23: futuristic airstream whose worst enemy is probably a speed bump.

1314
01:06:35,453 --> 01:06:37,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, this thing is so low to the ground.

1315
01:06:37,933 --> 01:06:40,053
Speaker 23: Looks cool, but it looks like it's going to get

1316
01:06:40,093 --> 01:06:42,533
Speaker 23: destroyed by a bad road.

1317
01:06:42,573 --> 01:06:46,173
Speaker 2: Yes, or a slight slow yeah yeah yeah, can't make

1318
01:06:46,213 --> 01:06:47,893
Speaker 2: it up a driveway, but it looks very cool. Oh

1319
01:06:47,973 --> 01:06:51,093
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, look, hey, thanks Paul. Yeah, it's going to

1320
01:06:51,133 --> 01:06:54,813
Speaker 2: be fascinating to see if these if these human alids

1321
01:06:54,813 --> 01:06:56,813
Speaker 2: actually do make it to market, especially by the end

1322
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Speaker 2: of next year. Before eleven o'clock, we are in the

1323
01:06:59,173 --> 01:07:02,013
Speaker 2: garden with the fertilizers that you need to get your

1324
01:07:02,093 --> 01:07:06,093
Speaker 2: spring plants absolutely humming at this time of year. Next up,

1325
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Speaker 2: our Master of Wine has his pick for us this week.

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Speaker 2: It's eighteen to eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's no better way to kick off your weekend then

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Speaker 1: with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and Vpewart on

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Speaker 1: cot Z for high Quality Supplements Used Talks, NB.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen two eleven Non News Talks, z'b. Bob Campbell, our

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Speaker 2: Master of Wine has chosen a Villa Maria Sala selection

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Speaker 2: merlow Kebinet seven sauvignon as his wine of the week

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Speaker 2: for us to Bob.

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Speaker 24: Cura, Jack, So why did you choose this? Well, the

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01:07:35,413 --> 01:07:38,893
Speaker 24: wine was actually selected by the It's Gimblet Gravels. It's

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01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:42,773
Speaker 24: from the from the Gimblet Gravels district of Hawke's Bay

1337
01:07:43,453 --> 01:07:47,253
Speaker 24: and once a year the Gimblet Gravels wine makers picked

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Speaker 24: their top dozen wines and share it with critics like myself,

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01:07:55,053 --> 01:08:00,773
Speaker 24: and I was particularly taken with it. It's just for

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01:08:01,253 --> 01:08:04,053
Speaker 24: sheer value. It's just sort of pretty hard to beat.

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01:08:04,533 --> 01:08:06,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does it taste like?

1342
01:08:08,613 --> 01:08:10,973
Speaker 24: Fresh and fruity? You know, it's sort of dark berry

1343
01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:15,413
Speaker 24: and plum flavors. It's got a little seasoning of spicy

1344
01:08:15,453 --> 01:08:19,973
Speaker 24: oak there that comes through moderately intense, but just the

1345
01:08:20,093 --> 01:08:23,613
Speaker 24: delicious wine that really has me reaching for a second glass.

1346
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:27,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how was the twenty twenty two Vintage?

1347
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Speaker 24: Twenty twenty two was a pretty average vishance to be honest,

1348
01:08:33,773 --> 01:08:37,933
Speaker 24: but this is a well above average average average wine.

1349
01:08:38,013 --> 01:08:40,253
Speaker 24: So it's a sort of an exception proving the rule.

1350
01:08:40,373 --> 01:08:43,453
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you said punch as well above as white.

1351
01:08:43,693 --> 01:08:44,613
Speaker 2: We can you buy Bob.

1352
01:08:46,533 --> 01:08:49,413
Speaker 24: I managed to find it a whiskey online in Auckland

1353
01:08:49,773 --> 01:08:53,093
Speaker 24: for sixteen ninety nine. Now the regular price is eighteen

1354
01:08:53,173 --> 01:08:56,573
Speaker 24: ninety nine, so that's a pretty sharp, pretty sharp price.

1355
01:08:57,653 --> 01:09:03,213
Speaker 24: Vitus sellars in Auckland also have it by the case

1356
01:09:03,413 --> 01:09:08,533
Speaker 24: twelve bottles for one hundred and thirteen sixty four and

1357
01:09:08,773 --> 01:09:13,253
Speaker 24: black market dot co dot Nz always have a bargain

1358
01:09:13,333 --> 01:09:17,973
Speaker 24: on standby. They're one hundred and thirty ninety four for

1359
01:09:18,093 --> 01:09:23,693
Speaker 24: a dozen bottles. It's worth checking your supermarket shelves because

1360
01:09:24,413 --> 01:09:27,693
Speaker 24: it's one of these wines that comes and goes fairly quickly,

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01:09:27,733 --> 01:09:28,813
Speaker 24: I will imagine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what would be a good food match? Do you

1363
01:09:31,253 --> 01:09:32,893
Speaker 2: think for the Maria.

1364
01:09:35,173 --> 01:09:38,453
Speaker 24: Barbecued steak? You know, it's just sort of out on

1365
01:09:38,533 --> 01:09:44,013
Speaker 24: the deck and flipping a steak. It's a sort of wine.

1366
01:09:44,093 --> 01:09:48,773
Speaker 24: It's a really good for the summer season. It's slight,

1367
01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:53,333
Speaker 24: you can drink it slightly chill. That might horrify some listeners,

1368
01:09:53,453 --> 01:10:00,813
Speaker 24: but there's a new section appearing on wine shop shelves

1369
01:10:01,253 --> 01:10:04,493
Speaker 24: called chilled Red, so I might talk about that later.

1370
01:10:06,453 --> 01:10:09,773
Speaker 24: It's a happening friend at the moment, it is happening

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Speaker 24: to you.

1372
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Speaker 2: So would you drink it now? Or do you reckon?

1373
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:14,813
Speaker 2: It'll it'll do well for a couple of years.

1374
01:10:15,653 --> 01:10:20,053
Speaker 24: Well, I think it's I quite like bright, fresh, fruity flavors,

1375
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:22,693
Speaker 24: So that that's what I'm going to get now and

1376
01:10:23,213 --> 01:10:25,733
Speaker 24: in five years time, if I can hang on to

1377
01:10:25,813 --> 01:10:30,293
Speaker 24: it that long, it's going to be more become more

1378
01:10:30,373 --> 01:10:33,853
Speaker 24: mellow and slightly savory, and that's that's got appeal too

1379
01:10:34,053 --> 01:10:37,133
Speaker 24: for me. So so it's a it's a hard call,

1380
01:10:38,053 --> 01:10:40,613
Speaker 24: but I'd given the choice, I'd probably go for the

1381
01:10:40,693 --> 01:10:43,413
Speaker 24: fresh Yeah, yeah, right, But.

1382
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Speaker 2: It depends what you like. It certainly won't be ruined

1383
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:48,093
Speaker 2: if you give it five years in a stable environment,

1384
01:10:48,693 --> 01:10:51,253
Speaker 2: right right, yeah, ah, very good. Hey, thank you so much,

1385
01:10:51,293 --> 01:10:54,613
Speaker 2: Bob appreciate it as always. Bob Campbell is our master

1386
01:10:54,733 --> 01:10:56,773
Speaker 2: of wine, and his best buy for us this week

1387
01:10:56,893 --> 01:11:01,533
Speaker 2: is a Villa Maria seller selection Merlow Cabinet Sauvignon. We

1388
01:11:01,653 --> 01:11:03,613
Speaker 2: will put all of the details for that up on

1389
01:11:03,733 --> 01:11:07,013
Speaker 2: the News tours. He'd be website after eleven on News

1390
01:11:07,093 --> 01:11:10,453
Speaker 2: Talks ed b Paula Hawkins, the author behind The Girl

1391
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:13,653
Speaker 2: on the Train, has a brand new book. Our book

1392
01:11:13,693 --> 01:11:15,573
Speaker 2: reviewer has been reading that says she's going to give

1393
01:11:15,653 --> 01:11:17,453
Speaker 2: us all the details on that. Plus I'm going to

1394
01:11:17,493 --> 01:11:19,453
Speaker 2: make sure we save plenty of times so we can

1395
01:11:19,493 --> 01:11:22,573
Speaker 2: listen to some of Coldplay's new album Moon Music has

1396
01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:25,733
Speaker 2: been released just in time for the New Zealand tour,

1397
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:28,333
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting if you go into those concerts.

1398
01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:30,053
Speaker 2: I suppose it's a good time to start listening to

1399
01:11:30,133 --> 01:11:32,973
Speaker 2: a bit of it. Although knowing Coldplay, they're pretty they're

1400
01:11:33,013 --> 01:11:34,773
Speaker 2: not that you know how some artists can be total

1401
01:11:34,813 --> 01:11:38,333
Speaker 2: punishers and just not punishers, I suppose. But they only

1402
01:11:38,373 --> 01:11:41,413
Speaker 2: play their new music and everyone's desperate for some old stuff.

1403
01:11:41,453 --> 01:11:43,933
Speaker 2: I feel like Coldplay. Coldplay gets it, they know the

1404
01:11:44,013 --> 01:11:46,413
Speaker 2: deal right. So when they're playing Eden Park, I think

1405
01:11:46,453 --> 01:11:49,133
Speaker 2: there'll be a mix between some of the new new

1406
01:11:49,213 --> 01:11:51,253
Speaker 2: tracks off Moon Music and some of the old classics

1407
01:11:51,253 --> 01:11:53,933
Speaker 2: as well. Right now, it's just gone eleven minutes to eleven,

1408
01:11:54,093 --> 01:11:57,893
Speaker 2: give a Jactame on News talks edb with still.

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01:11:57,733 --> 01:12:00,213
Speaker 1: Sharp don't less their biggest spring sale ever.

1410
01:12:00,653 --> 01:12:03,173
Speaker 2: Rude Climb passes our man in the garden killed her.

1411
01:12:06,853 --> 01:12:11,133
Speaker 2: Well you are, you're europepolic. How many languages do you speak, Rude?

1412
01:12:11,133 --> 01:12:11,813
Speaker 2: I can imagine a.

1413
01:12:11,813 --> 01:12:15,853
Speaker 7: Few, yes, quite a few. But that's that's all by accident.

1414
01:12:16,933 --> 01:12:19,173
Speaker 7: The the thing actually you you made a really good

1415
01:12:19,213 --> 01:12:22,053
Speaker 7: comment about, you know, other countries in the Netherlands we

1416
01:12:22,373 --> 01:12:25,733
Speaker 7: needed we spoke Dutch, of course, but it was compulsory

1417
01:12:25,813 --> 01:12:29,533
Speaker 7: for us to learn French, German and English. Wow. And

1418
01:12:29,693 --> 01:12:31,573
Speaker 7: so you came, you came basically out of school with

1419
01:12:31,653 --> 01:12:35,013
Speaker 7: four languages. And and because French was so difficult, you

1420
01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:39,053
Speaker 7: had to start in the primary in primary school French. Yeah,

1421
01:12:39,413 --> 01:12:41,613
Speaker 7: we started a year earlier with French. It's good fun.

1422
01:12:41,813 --> 01:12:45,933
Speaker 2: So so did you find French? I mean, German is

1423
01:12:45,973 --> 01:12:49,053
Speaker 2: more kind of rigid with its grammar structure. Right, But yeah,

1424
01:12:49,693 --> 01:12:52,373
Speaker 2: so did you find French more tricky than those other languages.

1425
01:12:53,253 --> 01:12:55,013
Speaker 7: Yes, it is a little bit because of all the

1426
01:12:55,093 --> 01:12:57,533
Speaker 7: genders and stuff like that as well, but that's that's

1427
01:12:57,613 --> 01:13:01,613
Speaker 7: of no concern really because once you've done things like

1428
01:13:01,733 --> 01:13:04,053
Speaker 7: French and you go to Italy on holiday a couple

1429
01:13:04,093 --> 01:13:07,613
Speaker 7: of times, and then you go to Spain, you pick

1430
01:13:07,813 --> 01:13:10,053
Speaker 7: you literally picked them up. The only thing that I've

1431
01:13:10,093 --> 01:13:11,573
Speaker 7: totally lost this Mongolian.

1432
01:13:11,813 --> 01:13:13,853
Speaker 2: Oh yes, no, the same thing happened to me. That's

1433
01:13:13,893 --> 01:13:14,933
Speaker 2: the problem with your mongoingan.

1434
01:13:15,173 --> 01:13:15,333
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1435
01:13:16,493 --> 01:13:19,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so lost. It's like I never had it

1436
01:13:19,493 --> 01:13:25,693
Speaker 2: in the first place. That's our lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1437
01:13:25,853 --> 01:13:29,933
Speaker 2: very good. Well what about learning English? Sorry, very quickly,

1438
01:13:29,933 --> 01:13:33,493
Speaker 2: what about learning English? Because that's supposed to be quite difficult, right, No,

1439
01:13:33,653 --> 01:13:33,933
Speaker 2: it's not.

1440
01:13:34,453 --> 01:13:36,533
Speaker 7: English For me was quite easy because everything on the

1441
01:13:36,613 --> 01:13:39,533
Speaker 7: television was in English trend was all subtitled, so there

1442
01:13:39,573 --> 01:13:41,573
Speaker 7: was an easy way of learning. Well, actually that's a

1443
01:13:41,613 --> 01:13:45,053
Speaker 7: good idea, the subtitling up until yeah, there you go.

1444
01:13:45,213 --> 01:13:47,973
Speaker 2: Well, I reckon that the TV show Friends has talked

1445
01:13:47,973 --> 01:13:52,733
Speaker 2: more people English than any educational assets, you know, like

1446
01:13:53,053 --> 01:13:54,813
Speaker 2: so many people out of world have watched Friends and

1447
01:13:54,933 --> 01:13:57,493
Speaker 2: just learned. But I always think like little quirky things

1448
01:13:57,533 --> 01:13:59,653
Speaker 2: with English. Sorry, we're going on it. This is very

1449
01:13:59,733 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 2: unlike us, I know, we never never get diverted whatsoever.

1450
01:14:02,693 --> 01:14:05,453
Speaker 2: But you know, like it's the classic, it's the big

1451
01:14:05,573 --> 01:14:09,053
Speaker 2: red dog, right, so in English we just know it's

1452
01:14:09,093 --> 01:14:10,653
Speaker 2: the big read dog. Well why is it not the

1453
01:14:10,693 --> 01:14:13,613
Speaker 2: read big dog. There are lots of little quirks in

1454
01:14:13,653 --> 01:14:16,093
Speaker 2: English like that. So if I said that read big

1455
01:14:16,133 --> 01:14:17,653
Speaker 2: dog over there, you say, well, that's a weird thing

1456
01:14:17,733 --> 01:14:19,893
Speaker 2: to say. But it's kind of hard to define why

1457
01:14:20,013 --> 01:14:23,493
Speaker 2: that's a rule, especially if you're learning and you know

1458
01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:25,533
Speaker 2: English is the second language anyway.

1459
01:14:26,293 --> 01:14:29,213
Speaker 7: On the other hand, when you are doing those languages,

1460
01:14:29,293 --> 01:14:33,453
Speaker 7: Latin languages, you learn Latin, and that is forgardening quite interesting.

1461
01:14:33,693 --> 01:14:35,253
Speaker 2: Oh yes, exactly.

1462
01:14:35,293 --> 01:14:38,493
Speaker 7: Well this is the point NPK nitrogen phosphate, and potash

1463
01:14:38,893 --> 01:14:41,813
Speaker 7: K is carlium. That's the actual word for it, and

1464
01:14:42,093 --> 01:14:45,773
Speaker 7: so it's quite easy to understand that. And the same

1465
01:14:45,853 --> 01:14:50,013
Speaker 7: with the names of plants, yes exactly, yeah, and birds

1466
01:14:50,053 --> 01:14:52,453
Speaker 7: and everything else. So I was going to have a

1467
01:14:52,493 --> 01:14:54,613
Speaker 7: little chat about, you know, seeing it's finding a bit

1468
01:14:54,693 --> 01:14:58,613
Speaker 7: nice and warm about fertilizers and people. I think it's

1469
01:14:58,613 --> 01:15:00,893
Speaker 7: always good. So that's why I wrote this quite a

1470
01:15:00,973 --> 01:15:04,053
Speaker 7: lot of stuff that goes on your website about NPK,

1471
01:15:04,293 --> 01:15:07,453
Speaker 7: how it all works, and what you need for which plants. Right,

1472
01:15:07,733 --> 01:15:11,013
Speaker 7: you know, that's the one and first of all, and

1473
01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:14,333
Speaker 7: it's for nitrogen. That means it makes green stuff. PA

1474
01:15:14,493 --> 01:15:17,853
Speaker 7: is for root development, so that's for you know, root crops,

1475
01:15:18,053 --> 01:15:21,813
Speaker 7: and case potest's for sex basically flowers and fruits. There

1476
01:15:21,813 --> 01:15:24,053
Speaker 7: you go. So the more and you have, the more

1477
01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:25,693
Speaker 7: you get into green, the more pea you have, you

1478
01:15:25,733 --> 01:15:28,053
Speaker 7: get more into roots and plant health, and the K

1479
01:15:28,773 --> 01:15:31,973
Speaker 7: the potest is for flowers and fruits. So it's it's

1480
01:15:32,053 --> 01:15:34,373
Speaker 7: as simple as that. So I gave some examples of

1481
01:15:34,773 --> 01:15:36,853
Speaker 7: what you use for lawns, what you use for carrots,

1482
01:15:36,893 --> 01:15:40,253
Speaker 7: what you use for tomatoes, et cetera. And then there's

1483
01:15:40,333 --> 01:15:43,013
Speaker 7: all these other things. And here comes latin quite nicely,

1484
01:15:43,173 --> 01:15:48,693
Speaker 7: magnesium and sulfur, calcium, copper, iron, zinc, manganese, you name it.

1485
01:15:49,013 --> 01:15:51,733
Speaker 7: They're all called trace elements and they eat them as well,

1486
01:15:52,213 --> 01:15:53,733
Speaker 7: so you need a little bit of that too.

1487
01:15:54,133 --> 01:15:57,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, that is the basic thing.

1488
01:15:57,333 --> 01:15:59,733
Speaker 7: So the rest you can read on the website.

1489
01:15:59,933 --> 01:16:01,973
Speaker 2: That well, what you've done is you've got to really

1490
01:16:02,093 --> 01:16:06,013
Speaker 2: useful suggestions for potatoes and tomatoes and roses and that

1491
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:08,373
Speaker 2: kind of thank you. What about dog pee?

1492
01:16:09,733 --> 01:16:13,453
Speaker 7: Dog pee is absolutely full of nitrogen. So if you

1493
01:16:13,653 --> 01:16:15,893
Speaker 7: have a dog that sits there and does one huge

1494
01:16:15,893 --> 01:16:18,853
Speaker 7: way on the lawn, it becomes yellow. It is too

1495
01:16:19,013 --> 01:16:21,893
Speaker 7: much nitrogen and it becomes literally overdosed.

1496
01:16:22,213 --> 01:16:22,533
Speaker 4: That's it.

1497
01:16:24,813 --> 01:16:26,973
Speaker 7: Yeah, the grass goes yellow and it starts to become

1498
01:16:27,133 --> 01:16:28,693
Speaker 7: bear and all that sort of stuff, and you need

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Speaker 7: sometimes you resow it. But here comes the thing. It's

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Speaker 7: mostly the female dogs that do that damage.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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01:16:38,053 --> 01:16:38,573
Speaker 1: Do you ask?

1503
01:16:38,773 --> 01:16:43,173
Speaker 7: Well, if you have a male dog, it goes tiny

1504
01:16:43,293 --> 01:16:46,053
Speaker 7: little bit cocks its leg, tiny little bit here, tiny

1505
01:16:46,133 --> 01:16:49,493
Speaker 7: little bit there, tiny little bit there. It basically makes

1506
01:16:49,533 --> 01:16:51,093
Speaker 7: its mics off its territory.

1507
01:16:51,773 --> 01:16:53,733
Speaker 2: And female dogs don't like their territory.

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01:16:54,213 --> 01:16:56,013
Speaker 7: No, they go like, I've gotta go now.

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01:16:58,893 --> 01:17:03,373
Speaker 2: I had no idea about that. Okay, So so.

1510
01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:05,453
Speaker 7: People, if you've got these patches on the loan, you've

1511
01:17:05,453 --> 01:17:07,773
Speaker 7: got a female dog, get a different dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had This is great. It is never

1513
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1514
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1515
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1516
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Speaker 2: your advice, your explanations and the tips on different types

1517
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Speaker 2: of fertilizer for different plants. Will make sure all of

1518
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1519
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1520
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Speaker 2: climb past in the garden for us this morning. Like

1521
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Speaker 2: I say, all of those bits and pieces at Newstalks

1522
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Speaker 2: hedb dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack that's where

1523
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Speaker 2: we put all the good stuff from our show, those

1524
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Speaker 2: those TV shows from our screen time segment. They're all

1525
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1526
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1527
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1528
01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:02,533
Speaker 2: taking us to Sri Lanka's world heritage spots and he's

1529
01:18:02,573 --> 01:18:05,093
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1530
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Speaker 2: Lanka as well. Plus a new book from Paula Hawkins

1531
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1533
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Speaker 2: his next dumb Jack tame. This is News Talk.

1534
01:18:16,053 --> 01:18:25,093
Speaker 1: ZBACA Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

1535
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Speaker 2: Bathur's weekend at Mount Panorama. I think things kick off

1538
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Speaker 2: tomorrow just after one o'clock New Zealand time is when

1539
01:19:00,933 --> 01:19:02,693
Speaker 2: they kick off, so they because they usually finished just

1540
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Speaker 2: before the six news, don't they, So they get through

1541
01:19:05,253 --> 01:19:08,733
Speaker 2: a thousand k's and yeah, very quickly. It doesn't come

1542
01:19:08,773 --> 01:19:11,493
Speaker 2: as a huge surprise anyway. We're gonna ask Jason Pine

1543
01:19:11,493 --> 01:19:15,893
Speaker 2: about that before midday today, get his thoughts on the

1544
01:19:15,933 --> 01:19:18,893
Speaker 2: All Whites performance too as they begin their World Cup

1545
01:19:19,053 --> 01:19:22,093
Speaker 2: qualifying campaign. As well as that, we're gonna listen to

1546
01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:24,373
Speaker 2: some music from cold Play. They have just released their

1547
01:19:24,413 --> 01:19:27,813
Speaker 2: tenth album, it's called Moon Music. Their last few albums

1548
01:19:27,853 --> 01:19:30,573
Speaker 2: have been very stadium rock heavy, which is not necessarily

1549
01:19:30,613 --> 01:19:33,253
Speaker 2: a bad thing. They are, of course playing three dates

1550
01:19:33,413 --> 01:19:35,613
Speaker 2: at Eden Park in just a few weeks time, so

1551
01:19:35,733 --> 01:19:38,493
Speaker 2: we will make sure we play some mood music before

1552
01:19:38,573 --> 01:19:40,933
Speaker 2: twelve o'clock as well. Right now, it's eight minutes past

1553
01:19:41,053 --> 01:19:45,973
Speaker 2: eleven and our sustainability commentator Kate Hall is with us

1554
01:19:46,053 --> 01:19:49,093
Speaker 2: this morning. Calder Kate Hey day, and we are talking

1555
01:19:49,253 --> 01:19:51,693
Speaker 2: about litter in the ocean. And this is one of

1556
01:19:51,773 --> 01:19:54,533
Speaker 2: those things that every time any of us walks along

1557
01:19:54,613 --> 01:19:57,013
Speaker 2: the beach and you see all the bits of rubbish

1558
01:19:57,133 --> 01:19:59,213
Speaker 2: and plastic and things on the beach, you kind of

1559
01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:01,973
Speaker 2: feel sick inside. But of course that's always you know,

1560
01:20:02,133 --> 01:20:04,173
Speaker 2: that's like a you know, only just kind of scraping

1561
01:20:04,213 --> 01:20:06,893
Speaker 2: the very edge of the problem, right, and you're behind

1562
01:20:06,933 --> 01:20:09,253
Speaker 2: a new effort to try and clean up our oceans

1563
01:20:09,253 --> 01:20:09,693
Speaker 2: a little bit.

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01:20:10,853 --> 01:20:14,893
Speaker 25: Yeah, So sustainable Coastlines have I think probably most people

1565
01:20:15,013 --> 01:20:18,253
Speaker 25: know about them, and they're exactly what it sounds like,

1566
01:20:19,093 --> 01:20:23,573
Speaker 25: disencouraging people to clean up our coastlines and oceans. And

1567
01:20:23,653 --> 01:20:27,053
Speaker 25: they've just released this kind of litter intelligence report because

1568
01:20:27,053 --> 01:20:30,733
Speaker 25: they've been working with you know, thousands of individuals doing

1569
01:20:30,813 --> 01:20:33,453
Speaker 25: beach clean up, so they know the types of rubbish

1570
01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:35,933
Speaker 25: that are most common. Yeah, and you know, kind of

1571
01:20:35,973 --> 01:20:38,253
Speaker 25: the main culprit so that we can actually kind of

1572
01:20:38,613 --> 01:20:41,453
Speaker 25: catch our ways from the start, because you know, most people,

1573
01:20:41,813 --> 01:20:43,653
Speaker 25: as you think about all those pieces of litter on

1574
01:20:43,773 --> 01:20:49,373
Speaker 25: the coastline, they probably have come from a household who

1575
01:20:49,453 --> 01:20:52,293
Speaker 25: didn't think they were littering, you know, like just it's

1576
01:20:52,333 --> 01:20:55,773
Speaker 25: blown away in the wind because yeah, like i'd like

1577
01:20:55,893 --> 01:20:58,653
Speaker 25: to think that most kiwis don't just throw things on

1578
01:20:58,733 --> 01:21:02,253
Speaker 25: the ground, you know. So yeah, with this kind of

1579
01:21:02,773 --> 01:21:06,053
Speaker 25: litter intelligence report they've come out, you know, and fish

1580
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:09,093
Speaker 25: and chip shops, how there's a kind of species chart,

1581
01:21:09,253 --> 01:21:12,493
Speaker 25: the classic you know, and I probably it's kind of

1582
01:21:12,533 --> 01:21:15,813
Speaker 25: a mandatory for fish and chip shots Zealand to have

1583
01:21:15,973 --> 01:21:20,173
Speaker 25: that fish species chat. So they've taken that classic visual

1584
01:21:20,573 --> 01:21:23,893
Speaker 25: and turned it into trash species of Altoto and New Zealand.

1585
01:21:24,693 --> 01:21:27,733
Speaker 25: So it's really like it's I think it's great because

1586
01:21:27,773 --> 01:21:28,973
Speaker 25: it's very clear.

1587
01:21:29,093 --> 01:21:32,573
Speaker 2: People I've seen very clear. But yeah, it's very it's

1588
01:21:32,733 --> 01:21:35,053
Speaker 2: very yeah, and you're totally right. So that just just

1589
01:21:35,373 --> 01:21:38,653
Speaker 2: just to remind people, you know that the classic species

1590
01:21:38,733 --> 01:21:40,093
Speaker 2: chart at the fish and chip shop. I think you

1591
01:21:40,133 --> 01:21:42,173
Speaker 2: can get like cool ones now because you know how

1592
01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:43,853
Speaker 2: it used to be like that. You always said, the

1593
01:21:43,893 --> 01:21:45,493
Speaker 2: kind of grimy one at the fish and chip shop

1594
01:21:45,533 --> 01:21:47,533
Speaker 2: that was all hair grease on it and that kind

1595
01:21:47,533 --> 01:21:49,533
Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah, but you could look at it and

1596
01:21:49,573 --> 01:21:51,333
Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, there's an orange ruffy, there's a

1597
01:21:51,373 --> 01:21:54,573
Speaker 2: John Dory, there's a snapper, there's a you know, and

1598
01:21:55,253 --> 01:21:58,213
Speaker 2: this is it's a it's a reimagined one, but all

1599
01:21:58,333 --> 01:22:00,133
Speaker 2: of the species are trash.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yep.

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01:22:02,213 --> 01:22:06,253
Speaker 25: There's like a blue pod, which is kind of a

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01:22:06,693 --> 01:22:10,973
Speaker 25: vap kind of container. There's smoky which is cigarette bats.

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01:22:11,253 --> 01:22:13,253
Speaker 25: I mean that's kind of one of the main things.

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01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:15,893
Speaker 25: I've actually been standing on the beach once and someone

1605
01:22:16,453 --> 01:22:21,413
Speaker 25: thrown their cigarette just literally onto the onto the sand,

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01:22:21,493 --> 01:22:25,893
Speaker 25: and I said, oh, sorry, you dropped this, But what.

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01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:26,573
Speaker 1: The what if?

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01:22:26,613 --> 01:22:32,893
Speaker 2: They say, imagine doing that? Well, they should feel it's a.

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01:22:32,893 --> 01:22:36,413
Speaker 25: Cultural thing, like even with cigarette bats, right, It's almost

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01:22:36,573 --> 01:22:40,173
Speaker 25: like I would say, probably most people who dropped cigarette bats,

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01:22:40,693 --> 01:22:44,453
Speaker 25: for small percent who still smoke, they wouldn't drop any

1612
01:22:44,493 --> 01:22:47,533
Speaker 25: other litter, you know. Thens are just a cultural thing

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01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:50,693
Speaker 25: that we're exactly.

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01:22:50,893 --> 01:22:51,093
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:22:51,293 --> 01:22:53,213
Speaker 25: The other one I love on that chat, I mean,

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01:22:53,253 --> 01:22:55,093
Speaker 25: obviously I don't love this because it would be cool

1617
01:22:55,133 --> 01:22:57,533
Speaker 25: of this chat didn't exist, we didn't have less of it.

1618
01:22:58,093 --> 01:23:00,413
Speaker 25: The cord fish. I think it was a great results

1619
01:23:00,533 --> 01:23:04,213
Speaker 25: made up of like tables and parts of you know,

1620
01:23:04,733 --> 01:23:08,453
Speaker 25: fishing line and rope. That's something I find personally because

1621
01:23:08,453 --> 01:23:10,613
Speaker 25: I live right by the ocean, a lot of that

1622
01:23:11,573 --> 01:23:14,173
Speaker 25: I try to pick up, you know, at least whenever

1623
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:17,773
Speaker 25: you walk along along the ocean. I sometimes feel quite

1624
01:23:17,813 --> 01:23:20,253
Speaker 25: guilty that I don't have time to do a beach

1625
01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:22,973
Speaker 25: clean up every day, but I pick up at least

1626
01:23:23,293 --> 01:23:26,333
Speaker 25: three it's usually five, a little bits of rubbish. And

1627
01:23:26,973 --> 01:23:29,453
Speaker 25: it is quite surprising when I walk and i've you know,

1628
01:23:29,533 --> 01:23:32,373
Speaker 25: I can see there's heaps of people have trodden. I

1629
01:23:32,413 --> 01:23:34,733
Speaker 25: can see all the footprints that a lot of this

1630
01:23:34,853 --> 01:23:37,613
Speaker 25: rubbish is just sitting there that you know, if every

1631
01:23:37,653 --> 01:23:39,693
Speaker 25: one of those people would walk past had picked up,

1632
01:23:39,933 --> 01:23:43,093
Speaker 25: you know, even just three or five pieces. Yeah, it's

1633
01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:46,613
Speaker 25: really important. So I hope that this kind of visual

1634
01:23:46,653 --> 01:23:49,413
Speaker 25: that the Saentel Coastlines have created, and I've got exhibitions

1635
01:23:49,493 --> 01:23:52,413
Speaker 25: down at their space in Auckland at the moment, will

1636
01:23:52,493 --> 01:23:55,253
Speaker 25: help people actually see this and go, oh my gosh,

1637
01:23:55,413 --> 01:23:59,933
Speaker 25: Like it's not just the you know, fashion marine life

1638
01:23:59,973 --> 01:24:03,773
Speaker 25: in our oceans. These things are just really really adding up,

1639
01:24:04,053 --> 01:24:06,933
Speaker 25: you know, like they had. There's that the skull lollipops

1640
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:09,853
Speaker 25: that's one of my favorite names of one of the species,

1641
01:24:09,893 --> 01:24:13,493
Speaker 25: and the trash species chat looks like a lollipop wrapper. Yeah,

1642
01:24:13,693 --> 01:24:18,333
Speaker 25: and they've picked up since twenty eighteen, eighty three hundred

1643
01:24:18,333 --> 01:24:18,613
Speaker 25: and one.

1644
01:24:19,173 --> 01:24:22,013
Speaker 2: Gosh, and these are plastic. Eight, Like, this is the

1645
01:24:22,093 --> 01:24:24,573
Speaker 2: thing for it and so that it's not breaking down

1646
01:24:24,613 --> 01:24:27,333
Speaker 2: in the ocean. You know, I'm not saying you should

1647
01:24:27,333 --> 01:24:29,253
Speaker 2: be throwing away like a popsicle stick or something like

1648
01:24:29,333 --> 01:24:32,013
Speaker 2: that that is wooden, but the plastic is a big

1649
01:24:32,053 --> 01:24:34,693
Speaker 2: concern because it takes so long to degrade. And so

1650
01:24:35,013 --> 01:24:37,773
Speaker 2: totally those lollipop sticks, there's eight hundred eight thousand, three

1651
01:24:37,813 --> 01:24:39,973
Speaker 2: hundred six those are plastic. They're like the chubber chub

1652
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:42,533
Speaker 2: lollipop sticks, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1653
01:24:42,973 --> 01:24:45,213
Speaker 25: And out of all of the litter that they collected,

1654
01:24:45,333 --> 01:24:49,733
Speaker 25: so six hundred and twenty one thousand individual pieces they've

1655
01:24:49,733 --> 01:24:53,813
Speaker 25: collected since twenty eighteen, seventy five percent of that is plastic,

1656
01:24:54,093 --> 01:24:56,493
Speaker 25: like made up of plastic. Yeah, and obviously there's a

1657
01:24:56,573 --> 01:24:59,333
Speaker 25: lot of you know, the Gusa fish on that chart

1658
01:24:59,493 --> 01:25:02,853
Speaker 25: is the construction waste is a huge, huge issue. I think,

1659
01:25:03,013 --> 01:25:06,213
Speaker 25: you know, there's this piece of really awesome visual charts

1660
01:25:06,453 --> 01:25:10,493
Speaker 25: that you know will be around the place hopefully help

1661
01:25:10,533 --> 01:25:14,613
Speaker 25: people realize, yeah, these these things we should obviously pick up.

1662
01:25:14,773 --> 01:25:16,573
Speaker 25: You know, especially over summer we're spending a lot more

1663
01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:19,133
Speaker 25: time at the beach. You just take a few pieces home,

1664
01:25:19,213 --> 01:25:22,133
Speaker 25: you don't have to turn your whole holiday into the

1665
01:25:22,173 --> 01:25:26,733
Speaker 25: beach green app that it does get fun personally, I

1666
01:25:26,813 --> 01:25:29,453
Speaker 25: think so anyway, but also just stopping it from the

1667
01:25:29,533 --> 01:25:32,373
Speaker 25: get go, you know, thinking do I need to get

1668
01:25:32,413 --> 01:25:36,133
Speaker 25: a lollipops? Like is there another snack or treats that

1669
01:25:36,293 --> 01:25:38,773
Speaker 25: I could bring my kids, you know, to the playground?

1670
01:25:39,493 --> 01:25:42,733
Speaker 25: That how can I stop this from the source, you know,

1671
01:25:42,853 --> 01:25:45,613
Speaker 25: how can I reduce my waist, to reduce my packaging,

1672
01:25:45,853 --> 01:25:48,133
Speaker 25: maybe buy things more in bulk so there's less kind

1673
01:25:48,173 --> 01:25:51,013
Speaker 25: of single use and just be really conscious of what

1674
01:25:51,173 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 25: the little actions you can make so you don't add

1675
01:25:54,333 --> 01:25:55,213
Speaker 25: to the trash species.

1676
01:25:55,533 --> 01:25:57,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that is that is a vital message.

1677
01:25:57,933 --> 01:25:59,813
Speaker 2: So just just to give our listeners a bit of

1678
01:25:59,813 --> 01:26:01,013
Speaker 2: an idea of some of the other things on the

1679
01:26:01,133 --> 01:26:06,013
Speaker 2: trash species. Power Raid is an power has a plastic

1680
01:26:06,053 --> 01:26:08,493
Speaker 2: battle plastic bottle tops, which is I think one of

1681
01:26:08,533 --> 01:26:11,773
Speaker 2: the most common found items and beaches. Right, so they

1682
01:26:11,813 --> 01:26:14,453
Speaker 2: reckon they find one for every one thousand square meters

1683
01:26:14,453 --> 01:26:22,133
Speaker 2: of coastline, they find eighteen plastic bottle tops. Oh that's crazy,

1684
01:26:22,293 --> 01:26:26,453
Speaker 2: A that's crazy. Food wrappers are pretty high up there

1685
01:26:26,493 --> 01:26:30,613
Speaker 2: as well. Like you say, the cigarette parts and filters

1686
01:26:31,253 --> 01:26:33,813
Speaker 2: are a big issue as well. So how can people

1687
01:26:34,093 --> 01:26:37,133
Speaker 2: go and see the poster and support this work?

1688
01:26:37,253 --> 01:26:42,093
Speaker 25: Okay, So finamalcoastlines dot org is that you can find poster.

1689
01:26:42,373 --> 01:26:43,933
Speaker 25: You can even buy a poster you know, to have

1690
01:26:44,213 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 25: your work or in your fish and chip shop in anywhere.

1691
01:26:48,693 --> 01:26:51,853
Speaker 25: And yeah, you can go down and see what they have.

1692
01:26:53,133 --> 01:26:56,293
Speaker 25: Be really involved. Again, all the information that Cinama coastlines

1693
01:26:56,293 --> 01:26:57,133
Speaker 25: dot org very good.

1694
01:26:57,133 --> 01:26:59,293
Speaker 2: We're going to put a copy of that poster up

1695
01:26:59,293 --> 01:27:00,693
Speaker 2: on the website as well so people can go and

1696
01:27:00,773 --> 01:27:03,333
Speaker 2: have a look at it. Oh, the heir's a classic.

1697
01:27:04,173 --> 01:27:11,213
Speaker 2: The soy sauce things from sushi. Ah ah, there's a classic.

1698
01:27:11,333 --> 01:27:13,813
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, when are they going to stop being created?

1699
01:27:13,893 --> 01:27:14,093
Speaker 9: I know?

1700
01:27:14,613 --> 01:27:18,813
Speaker 2: I Hey, thank you so much. Kate appreciate it as always.

1701
01:27:18,893 --> 01:27:21,493
Speaker 2: That is Kate Hall, our sustainability commentator. You can find

1702
01:27:21,533 --> 01:27:23,413
Speaker 2: her on all of the social media platforms as well

1703
01:27:23,453 --> 01:27:26,773
Speaker 2: by searching ethically Kate. Next up, our travel correspondent, is

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01:27:26,853 --> 01:27:30,173
Speaker 2: taking us all to Sri Lanka sixteen past eleven on

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Speaker 2: News dogs 'b Travel.

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Speaker 1: With Wendy wu Tours unique fully inclusive tours around the world.

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Speaker 2: Newstorg's edb Well the Black Ferns have had a pretty

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Speaker 2: rough time of things as of late. They have had

1709
01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:49,053
Speaker 2: a rough couple of couple of games against England and

1710
01:27:49,133 --> 01:27:51,733
Speaker 2: the Northern Tour, and they've got one game left for

1711
01:27:51,813 --> 01:27:54,333
Speaker 2: their season. That's against France this weekend in the final

1712
01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 2: of the tournament in Vancouver. So I think last week

1713
01:27:58,053 --> 01:28:01,413
Speaker 2: they went down what forty nine thirty one against England,

1714
01:28:01,733 --> 01:28:05,253
Speaker 2: nine tries they conceded, which was a record for the

1715
01:28:05,293 --> 01:28:09,053
Speaker 2: Black Ferns. But anyway, it's their final final game of

1716
01:28:09,133 --> 01:28:12,413
Speaker 2: this Vancouver competition and they're up against France, so a

1717
01:28:12,533 --> 01:28:15,093
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on the Black Ferns and hey demand

1718
01:28:15,173 --> 01:28:18,173
Speaker 2: That game's going on just after eleven o'clock tomorrow morning

1719
01:28:19,093 --> 01:28:21,653
Speaker 2: in Vancouver, So we will catch up with Jason Pine

1720
01:28:21,773 --> 01:28:24,933
Speaker 2: very shortly get his thoughts on the Blackfurns chances. Plus,

1721
01:28:25,413 --> 01:28:29,373
Speaker 2: the All Whites are counting down to the next stage

1722
01:28:29,413 --> 01:28:33,333
Speaker 2: of their World Cup qualification. The next Football World Cup

1723
01:28:33,613 --> 01:28:36,093
Speaker 2: has a lot more teams than the last one. It

1724
01:28:36,133 --> 01:28:38,573
Speaker 2: should theoretically mean that the All Whites have a slightly

1725
01:28:38,693 --> 01:28:41,293
Speaker 2: easier time making the World Cup than they have in

1726
01:28:41,373 --> 01:28:45,093
Speaker 2: previous tournaments. They've just faced off against Tahiti and they

1727
01:28:45,133 --> 01:28:47,733
Speaker 2: look pretty comfortable against Tahiti. Actually, in fact, Chris Wood

1728
01:28:47,853 --> 01:28:51,893
Speaker 2: lashed in some unmarked goals which were a Premier League striker.

1729
01:28:51,973 --> 01:28:53,173
Speaker 2: It's not the sort of thing he gets to do

1730
01:28:53,733 --> 01:28:57,133
Speaker 2: during his day job. So yeah, they're always looking relatively

1731
01:28:57,133 --> 01:28:58,693
Speaker 2: strong for the time being. But they've got a couple

1732
01:28:58,813 --> 01:29:02,213
Speaker 2: more games coming up this year, including on home soil.

1733
01:29:02,253 --> 01:29:05,813
Speaker 2: As they count down for that to those or to

1734
01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:07,813
Speaker 2: the next Stuff Football World Cup in twenty twenty six

1735
01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:10,293
Speaker 2: and hopefully qualify. It would be wonderful for Chris Wood

1736
01:29:10,333 --> 01:29:12,253
Speaker 2: to get one more crack at the World Cup before

1737
01:29:12,933 --> 01:29:15,773
Speaker 2: he retires. Before midday on News Talks Hebb, we're going

1738
01:29:15,813 --> 01:29:17,733
Speaker 2: to listen to Coldplay. They've got a new album called

1739
01:29:17,813 --> 01:29:21,053
Speaker 2: Moon Music, plus the very latest from Paula Hawk and

1740
01:29:21,173 --> 01:29:24,093
Speaker 2: she is the author of The Girl on the Train

1741
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:26,773
Speaker 2: alongside several other cracking books, so we're going to tell

1742
01:29:26,813 --> 01:29:29,053
Speaker 2: you about that very shortly as well. Right now, it

1743
01:29:29,173 --> 01:29:31,053
Speaker 2: is twenty one past eleven.

1744
01:29:35,253 --> 01:29:39,133
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1745
01:29:39,613 --> 01:29:40,653
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

1746
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:43,453
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback this morning. Shirley

1747
01:29:43,533 --> 01:29:45,293
Speaker 2: has asked me about a TV show that we were

1748
01:29:45,333 --> 01:29:50,013
Speaker 2: recommending this morning before eleven o'clock in our screen time segment, Jack,

1749
01:29:50,053 --> 01:29:52,493
Speaker 2: where can you see the Bear? Okay, so, Surley, the

1750
01:29:52,533 --> 01:29:54,133
Speaker 2: thing you have to understand is that, first of all,

1751
01:29:54,173 --> 01:29:56,413
Speaker 2: I'm very behind the times, so when there's a new

1752
01:29:56,453 --> 01:29:58,613
Speaker 2: show that everyone is talking about, it takes me at

1753
01:29:58,733 --> 01:30:03,133
Speaker 2: least eighteen months to get there. But I have got there,

1754
01:30:03,173 --> 01:30:06,813
Speaker 2: which is which is something I'm very glad about when

1755
01:30:06,813 --> 01:30:09,933
Speaker 2: it comes to The Beer, because it is an extraordinary

1756
01:30:10,013 --> 01:30:12,813
Speaker 2: TV show. It won a gazillion Emmys. It's one sort

1757
01:30:12,813 --> 01:30:17,573
Speaker 2: of every every prize under the sun. The lead actor

1758
01:30:17,693 --> 01:30:20,653
Speaker 2: is now a Kelvin Klein pin up boy heart throb,

1759
01:30:21,213 --> 01:30:23,653
Speaker 2: So anyway, you can watch that on Disney Plus. At

1760
01:30:23,693 --> 01:30:25,493
Speaker 2: the moment, I've only seen season two of The Bear.

1761
01:30:25,533 --> 01:30:27,893
Speaker 2: There are three seasons, and the third season, which I

1762
01:30:27,933 --> 01:30:31,213
Speaker 2: haven't seen yet, has had mixed reviews from fans and

1763
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:34,133
Speaker 2: critics alike. So i've season two was a work of

1764
01:30:34,173 --> 01:30:36,933
Speaker 2: genius in my opinion sitly, but that's just my opinion.

1765
01:30:37,013 --> 01:30:39,533
Speaker 2: I will reserve commenting on season three until I've had

1766
01:30:39,573 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 2: an opportunity to see that. It's twenty four plast eleven

1767
01:30:42,253 --> 01:30:45,133
Speaker 2: non news talks. He'd be after Midday today. Jason Pine

1768
01:30:45,373 --> 01:30:47,773
Speaker 2: is in the hot seat for US with Weekendsport Calder

1769
01:30:47,813 --> 01:30:52,013
Speaker 2: Piney calder Jack, the America's Cup finally underway, we've had

1770
01:30:52,053 --> 01:30:54,613
Speaker 2: the Challenger series. But it's that weird kind of time.

1771
01:30:54,693 --> 01:30:57,013
Speaker 2: I was saying, this is sad this morning, where we

1772
01:30:57,173 --> 01:30:59,613
Speaker 2: are just waiting to see how we're actually going to

1773
01:30:59,653 --> 01:31:01,173
Speaker 2: shape up with the Challenger.

1774
01:31:01,613 --> 01:31:04,333
Speaker 26: I think we're going to be okay, and that's really

1775
01:31:04,413 --> 01:31:06,173
Speaker 26: based on nothing more than quite a bit of reading

1776
01:31:06,533 --> 01:31:07,853
Speaker 26: done and people analyzing.

1777
01:31:07,933 --> 01:31:09,413
Speaker 2: But really, you're right, Chack.

1778
01:31:09,493 --> 01:31:11,733
Speaker 26: It's not until I was gonna say the rubber hits

1779
01:31:11,773 --> 01:31:13,893
Speaker 26: the road that's completely the wrong metaphor.

1780
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:15,773
Speaker 2: It's not until the voats at the water.

1781
01:31:15,933 --> 01:31:18,373
Speaker 26: That we find out whether there's any race rust for

1782
01:31:18,653 --> 01:31:20,573
Speaker 26: Emirates Team New Zealand, who haven't been on the water

1783
01:31:20,653 --> 01:31:23,453
Speaker 26: competitively for about a month, against any Os Britanna, who

1784
01:31:23,493 --> 01:31:26,973
Speaker 26: have basically been been going hard out for the last

1785
01:31:27,013 --> 01:31:29,293
Speaker 26: month to win the Louis Vuitton. How will they match

1786
01:31:29,373 --> 01:31:30,973
Speaker 26: up in terms of boat speed, in terms of the

1787
01:31:31,013 --> 01:31:33,893
Speaker 26: way that they sell these boats and everything else, all

1788
01:31:33,933 --> 01:31:37,293
Speaker 26: the million little details that go into it, we don't

1789
01:31:37,333 --> 01:31:40,093
Speaker 26: really know. But Ray Davies, as the coach of Emirates

1790
01:31:40,133 --> 01:31:42,533
Speaker 26: Team New Zealand, he's on the show just after midday,

1791
01:31:42,573 --> 01:31:44,293
Speaker 26: so he'll give us some insight into what they've been

1792
01:31:44,373 --> 01:31:47,773
Speaker 26: doing as they prepare to defend. But yeah, one o'clock

1793
01:31:47,813 --> 01:31:49,613
Speaker 26: tomorrow morning, is I guess when we'll get our first

1794
01:31:49,653 --> 01:31:50,253
Speaker 26: real indication.

1795
01:31:50,413 --> 01:31:52,693
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, it is a kind of one of the

1796
01:31:52,773 --> 01:31:55,373
Speaker 2: curious things about the way the competition is structured, right,

1797
01:31:55,653 --> 01:32:01,413
Speaker 2: So from the perspective of the defender, they have the

1798
01:32:01,493 --> 01:32:04,613
Speaker 2: benefit of seeing Britannia or any Us Britanna race for

1799
01:32:04,653 --> 01:32:07,453
Speaker 2: the last month or so, so they they know full

1800
01:32:07,493 --> 01:32:10,533
Speaker 2: well how well in Eus Pretanna is doing. But then

1801
01:32:10,573 --> 01:32:12,853
Speaker 2: in the EUSt Pretanna has the benefit of being race

1802
01:32:12,893 --> 01:32:15,493
Speaker 2: ready and experience, right, and so they might not know

1803
01:32:15,773 --> 01:32:18,533
Speaker 2: with the same kind of detail how Emirates Team New

1804
01:32:18,613 --> 01:32:21,333
Speaker 2: Zealand is shaping up. But they do know how to race,

1805
01:32:21,853 --> 01:32:23,693
Speaker 2: and which of those two things is more important. I

1806
01:32:23,733 --> 01:32:25,333
Speaker 2: don't think we know. I don't think we know.

1807
01:32:25,613 --> 01:32:27,493
Speaker 26: Is it better to be race hardened or is it

1808
01:32:27,533 --> 01:32:30,693
Speaker 26: better to have the intel on your challenger that that

1809
01:32:30,813 --> 01:32:33,253
Speaker 26: Emirates Team New Zealand do. I guess, as I say, Jack,

1810
01:32:33,293 --> 01:32:35,013
Speaker 26: we'll find out in the early hours of tomorrow morning

1811
01:32:35,053 --> 01:32:36,573
Speaker 26: for the first time. And then yeah, whoever gets to

1812
01:32:36,693 --> 01:32:38,653
Speaker 26: seven race wins first gets the old mark.

1813
01:32:38,893 --> 01:32:40,493
Speaker 2: Very good. So Ray Davis on the show, what else

1814
01:32:40,533 --> 01:32:41,213
Speaker 2: you got for us this up?

1815
01:32:41,373 --> 01:32:41,533
Speaker 5: Yep?

1816
01:32:41,853 --> 01:32:44,413
Speaker 26: Indeed are the relevance of international rugby league. This has

1817
01:32:44,453 --> 01:32:46,853
Speaker 26: been a big talking point in recent times. The NRL

1818
01:32:46,973 --> 01:32:50,773
Speaker 26: just seems to monster rugby league and you know the key,

1819
01:32:50,813 --> 01:32:52,853
Speaker 26: we seem to fight for relevance and amongst it all.

1820
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:54,973
Speaker 26: So Greg Peter's out of the New Zealand Rugby League

1821
01:32:55,013 --> 01:32:56,413
Speaker 26: is going to chat to us about that. And after

1822
01:32:56,493 --> 01:32:59,573
Speaker 26: two Chris wood Is on the show. Yeah, captain of

1823
01:32:59,613 --> 01:33:01,053
Speaker 26: the All Whites come wait to have a chap to Chris?

1824
01:33:01,093 --> 01:33:03,773
Speaker 26: What about their World Cup qualifying campaign? And of course

1825
01:33:03,853 --> 01:33:06,173
Speaker 26: being one of the prettymier league's top strikers, don't get

1826
01:33:06,213 --> 01:33:07,613
Speaker 26: them on the on the radio?

1827
01:33:07,773 --> 01:33:08,133
Speaker 8: Very open?

1828
01:33:08,253 --> 01:33:10,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty yeah, that is pretty special. I'm really looking

1829
01:33:10,533 --> 01:33:11,773
Speaker 2: forward to that. I mean, what did you make of

1830
01:33:11,813 --> 01:33:16,333
Speaker 2: that pitch yesterday against it? Yeah, of all the pictures

1831
01:33:16,333 --> 01:33:18,453
Speaker 2: I've seen, it was the most recent. Yes, that's a

1832
01:33:18,613 --> 01:33:20,573
Speaker 2: that's a generous way of putting things that reminded me

1833
01:33:20,653 --> 01:33:22,133
Speaker 2: of like my backyard.

1834
01:33:22,413 --> 01:33:25,693
Speaker 26: Yes, back home now though, so they get to play

1835
01:33:25,733 --> 01:33:28,893
Speaker 26: the next two, well, they play Malaysia Friday night at Albany, sorry,

1836
01:33:28,893 --> 01:33:31,253
Speaker 26: Monday night at Albany. And then next month both of

1837
01:33:31,253 --> 01:33:33,333
Speaker 26: their World Cup qualifiers are back on home soil, so

1838
01:33:33,693 --> 01:33:34,893
Speaker 26: I know they'll be looking forward to.

1839
01:33:34,893 --> 01:33:36,373
Speaker 2: That, so you'll be pleased with me. I've got not

1840
01:33:36,493 --> 01:33:41,373
Speaker 2: only do I have tickets for the November game in Auckland,

1841
01:33:41,373 --> 01:33:43,933
Speaker 2: but I've also got tickets for next weekend.

1842
01:33:44,493 --> 01:33:51,013
Speaker 26: Wonderful, Yes, wonderful, Yeah, selling apparently going to sell out, Jack, Yes, yes,

1843
01:33:51,053 --> 01:33:54,813
Speaker 26: I've heard this morning that that they are target They're

1844
01:33:54,813 --> 01:33:57,413
Speaker 26: always targeting to sell out, but they are tracking towards

1845
01:33:57,853 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 26: selling Mounts smart out for that first game a week today.

1846
01:34:00,773 --> 01:34:03,093
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Can't wait for that. Well, we'll have plenty

1847
01:34:03,133 --> 01:34:05,053
Speaker 2: more to say about that next weekend, no doubt, but

1848
01:34:05,173 --> 01:34:06,893
Speaker 2: very much looking forward to the show's afternoon, and of

1849
01:34:06,933 --> 01:34:08,853
Speaker 2: course Emirate's team New Zealand in their first race just

1850
01:34:08,933 --> 01:34:13,413
Speaker 2: after one o'clock tomorrow morning, New Zealand time. Thank you

1851
01:34:13,533 --> 01:34:16,493
Speaker 2: very much, sir, Thanks Jack. It is amazing actually, how

1852
01:34:17,133 --> 01:34:20,973
Speaker 2: much like Sabine Ainsley's fortune to have reversed something. You know,

1853
01:34:21,053 --> 01:34:24,333
Speaker 2: it's extraordinary to think of where any Us Britannia were

1854
01:34:24,733 --> 01:34:27,053
Speaker 2: just a few years ago competing in the last America's

1855
01:34:27,093 --> 01:34:30,773
Speaker 2: Cup in Tarmachimikoto in Auckland, and they had all sorts

1856
01:34:30,773 --> 01:34:32,853
Speaker 2: of issues, remember the boat was they had all sorts

1857
01:34:32,853 --> 01:34:34,333
Speaker 2: of issues of the boat and went down and then

1858
01:34:34,373 --> 01:34:36,413
Speaker 2: they needed repairs and all those kinds of things, and

1859
01:34:36,813 --> 01:34:38,853
Speaker 2: it really you know, there was a debate over whether

1860
01:34:38,933 --> 01:34:40,693
Speaker 2: they'd be good and low winds, and then oh no,

1861
01:34:40,773 --> 01:34:43,853
Speaker 2: maybe they're actually rig their vessel to be better in

1862
01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:45,533
Speaker 2: high winds, and then no, actually it was just a

1863
01:34:45,613 --> 01:34:49,053
Speaker 2: total dog. But things have really turned around. Because pretend

1864
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:52,693
Speaker 2: you have looked pretty sleek on the water in the

1865
01:34:52,733 --> 01:34:56,813
Speaker 2: coast off Barcelona ten past one tomorrow morning. That race

1866
01:34:56,893 --> 01:34:59,653
Speaker 2: will be competed the first race of the America's Cup.

1867
01:34:59,693 --> 01:35:00,933
Speaker 2: So of course we're going to keep you up to

1868
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:03,173
Speaker 2: speed with Team New Zealand's progress and we should get

1869
01:35:03,213 --> 01:35:05,493
Speaker 2: a pretty good steer if that race goes to it

1870
01:35:05,573 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 2: goes ahead. As to how emerates Team New Zealanders like

1871
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:11,973
Speaker 2: to likely to shape up in that in that contest,

1872
01:35:12,413 --> 01:35:15,373
Speaker 2: it is just coming up to eleven thirty on news talks.

1873
01:35:15,373 --> 01:35:18,733
Speaker 2: He'd be a travel correspondent. Mike Yardley has been having

1874
01:35:18,933 --> 01:35:21,613
Speaker 2: a few issues, which is very unlike him given, and

1875
01:35:21,653 --> 01:35:24,253
Speaker 2: it is remarkable really, given he travels the world constantly

1876
01:35:24,653 --> 01:35:26,413
Speaker 2: that he's usually able to connect to us. So I

1877
01:35:26,493 --> 01:35:28,493
Speaker 2: know we seem to have lost him. We tracked him down.

1878
01:35:28,533 --> 01:35:32,253
Speaker 2: He's lost his phone some somehow this morning while he's

1879
01:35:32,493 --> 01:35:34,613
Speaker 2: in the United States, but we managed to get him

1880
01:35:34,613 --> 01:35:36,053
Speaker 2: on zoom. So we'll see if we can track him

1881
01:35:36,093 --> 01:35:37,973
Speaker 2: down in a couple of minutes. It's just coming up

1882
01:35:37,973 --> 01:35:40,093
Speaker 2: to eleven thirty on news Talk. Oh hew is here

1883
01:35:40,533 --> 01:35:41,693
Speaker 2: we got have we got my gap?

1884
01:35:41,773 --> 01:35:42,253
Speaker 4: There he is?

1885
01:35:43,133 --> 01:35:43,933
Speaker 11: Good morning, Jack.

1886
01:35:44,133 --> 01:35:48,693
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, don'tze, Yeah, no, I you go.

1887
01:35:49,693 --> 01:35:51,333
Speaker 11: I was just going to say, I know we're talking

1888
01:35:51,333 --> 01:35:53,493
Speaker 11: to Sri Lanka. I'm actually in Disneyland and I did

1889
01:35:53,493 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 11: a very stupid thing and I misplaced my phone an

1890
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:59,933
Speaker 11: hour ago, which is in the process of apparently being

1891
01:35:59,973 --> 01:36:01,773
Speaker 11: dispatched to Lost and Found.

1892
01:36:03,453 --> 01:36:03,613
Speaker 5: Mike.

1893
01:36:03,773 --> 01:36:07,093
Speaker 2: That is the worst feeling a losing your fire. I

1894
01:36:07,453 --> 01:36:10,973
Speaker 2: suddenly realize how woefully dependent we are on these things. Well,

1895
01:36:11,013 --> 01:36:14,053
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we've found a technical work around whether

1896
01:36:14,053 --> 01:36:17,173
Speaker 2: you land, yes, but fair to say that, at least

1897
01:36:17,213 --> 01:36:19,333
Speaker 2: for today, it's not the happiest place on earth for

1898
01:36:19,453 --> 01:36:23,573
Speaker 2: you exactly. Yeah, Okay, Well, look we are talking Sri

1899
01:36:23,613 --> 01:36:26,333
Speaker 2: Lanka this morning, and we loved your tips for Gaul

1900
01:36:26,773 --> 01:36:28,373
Speaker 2: last week. But we're looking at some of the world

1901
01:36:28,493 --> 01:36:31,293
Speaker 2: Heritage sites and wildlife in Sri Lanka. So let's start

1902
01:36:31,333 --> 01:36:33,693
Speaker 2: off with some of the world heritage bits. Tell us

1903
01:36:33,813 --> 01:36:35,413
Speaker 2: about Dam Buller.

1904
01:36:36,333 --> 01:36:38,933
Speaker 11: This is the most amazing place. Jackets the start of

1905
01:36:39,013 --> 01:36:42,013
Speaker 11: what they call the Cultural Triangle, and this is an

1906
01:36:42,053 --> 01:36:46,733
Speaker 11: area that encompasses all of Sri Lanka's greatest world heritage treasures.

1907
01:36:47,133 --> 01:36:49,893
Speaker 11: So the dumb Buller Rock Temple. It has been a

1908
01:36:50,013 --> 01:36:54,613
Speaker 11: Buddhist pilgrimage site for over two thousand years and it's

1909
01:36:54,693 --> 01:36:59,733
Speaker 11: considered Sri Lanka's best preserved ancient edifice. It's this massive

1910
01:37:00,093 --> 01:37:03,893
Speaker 11: cave temple complex which was carved by monks, and these

1911
01:37:04,133 --> 01:37:10,573
Speaker 11: caves huddle under the vast overhanging rock and geniously they

1912
01:37:10,813 --> 01:37:15,013
Speaker 11: carved a drip line into that rock so that their

1913
01:37:15,133 --> 01:37:18,333
Speaker 11: interiors would stay bone dry. And oh my goodness, it's

1914
01:37:18,453 --> 01:37:21,733
Speaker 11: like an ancient art gallery. These caves over one hundred

1915
01:37:21,773 --> 01:37:25,973
Speaker 11: and fifty Bodis statues. There's a huge reclining bodder. There

1916
01:37:26,053 --> 01:37:29,053
Speaker 11: was one cave jack I went into and the ceiling

1917
01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:34,493
Speaker 11: is just covered in fifteen hundred border paintings may all

1918
01:37:34,853 --> 01:37:39,373
Speaker 11: flawlessly follow the contours of the rock. It is absolutely enthralling.

1919
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Speaker 11: An inster picnic.

1920
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds amazing. So tell us about Lion Rock.

1921
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Speaker 11: Yeah, this ancient rock kingdom was the shortest lived but

1922
01:37:47,933 --> 01:37:51,933
Speaker 11: the most staggering of all of Sri Lanka's ancient capital.

1923
01:37:52,053 --> 01:37:56,613
Speaker 11: So it's also known as Sigidia, but better known as

1924
01:37:56,693 --> 01:37:59,453
Speaker 11: Lion Rock. And it's this massive towering monolith, a bit

1925
01:37:59,613 --> 01:38:03,733
Speaker 11: like Oolarou, but higher, and it's got a flat top summit.

1926
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Speaker 11: And this king called Kashi, he turned it into a

1927
01:38:07,813 --> 01:38:11,333
Speaker 11: fortress kingdom about fifteen hundred years ago, and he decorated

1928
01:38:11,373 --> 01:38:13,893
Speaker 11: the rock walls with frescoes, and he built a pleasure

1929
01:38:13,973 --> 01:38:18,093
Speaker 11: palace on the summit that was only accessible through the

1930
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Speaker 11: mouth of a massive carved lion. So I hauled my

1931
01:38:23,853 --> 01:38:27,413
Speaker 11: way up the twelve hundred steps cut into the rock face,

1932
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Speaker 11: and the steep start between a pair of lion paws

1933
01:38:31,853 --> 01:38:34,053
Speaker 11: which have been carved into the base of the rock.

1934
01:38:34,853 --> 01:38:37,533
Speaker 11: And at one time the stairs led through the open

1935
01:38:37,613 --> 01:38:41,013
Speaker 11: mouth of this lion's head, crouching between the paws. It's

1936
01:38:41,133 --> 01:38:43,733
Speaker 11: all very James Bond in a moodist sort of way.

1937
01:38:45,013 --> 01:38:46,853
Speaker 2: Why was he considered a crazy king?

1938
01:38:47,533 --> 01:38:52,013
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, mad as a hatter, a miglomaniac and paranoid.

1939
01:38:52,453 --> 01:38:58,173
Speaker 11: He actually overthrew his father and buried his father alive

1940
01:38:58,373 --> 01:39:01,413
Speaker 11: to assume the throne. I know, I mean, just she

1941
01:39:01,773 --> 01:39:06,453
Speaker 11: very extreme. He apparently historians reckon he had fire one

1942
01:39:06,533 --> 01:39:09,733
Speaker 11: hundred women up in his pleasure palace to pleasure him.

1943
01:39:10,333 --> 01:39:13,213
Speaker 11: And you can see their bathing ponds down at the

1944
01:39:13,253 --> 01:39:16,853
Speaker 11: base of the rock, because those bathing ponds are part

1945
01:39:16,933 --> 01:39:22,253
Speaker 11: of what is considered Asia's oldest surviving landscaped gardens, so

1946
01:39:22,373 --> 01:39:25,013
Speaker 11: they sort of just unfurl like a blanket from the

1947
01:39:25,093 --> 01:39:27,933
Speaker 11: base of the rock. And another amazing feature, Jack, there

1948
01:39:28,013 --> 01:39:31,253
Speaker 11: is this enormous boulder down in those gardens. This boulder,

1949
01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:33,053
Speaker 11: I reckon, would be the size of a three or

1950
01:39:33,093 --> 01:39:37,253
Speaker 11: four story high house, and it was cut in half horizontally,

1951
01:39:37,333 --> 01:39:40,253
Speaker 11: the boulder so that it forms sort of like an

1952
01:39:40,333 --> 01:39:43,813
Speaker 11: amphitheater for the king as an audience sort of hall.

1953
01:39:44,413 --> 01:39:47,773
Speaker 11: But how did they do that cutting this boulder fifteen

1954
01:39:47,853 --> 01:39:50,693
Speaker 11: hundred years ago? And that's the question that just keeps

1955
01:39:50,933 --> 01:39:53,693
Speaker 11: needling it to as you go to line rock all

1956
01:39:53,773 --> 01:39:54,133
Speaker 11: over it.

1957
01:39:54,333 --> 01:39:57,533
Speaker 2: How did they do it amazing. And you checked out

1958
01:39:57,573 --> 01:39:59,253
Speaker 2: another ancient capital, Mate.

1959
01:39:59,813 --> 01:40:02,733
Speaker 11: Yes, Pollon is she hod On? I'll get this right,

1960
01:40:02,973 --> 01:40:06,333
Speaker 11: Polona Ruer And this was an ancient capital eight hundred

1961
01:40:06,493 --> 01:40:10,293
Speaker 11: years ago before the power base shifted to Colombo. And

1962
01:40:10,413 --> 01:40:12,653
Speaker 11: it's a bit like a mini ankor watch Jack. So

1963
01:40:13,293 --> 01:40:16,133
Speaker 11: it's been liberated from the jungle and it just brims

1964
01:40:16,253 --> 01:40:21,453
Speaker 11: with tombs and temples and statues and stupas. The centerpiece

1965
01:40:21,573 --> 01:40:28,293
Speaker 11: is this flamboyant buttadage, which is a superbly decorated circular

1966
01:40:28,453 --> 01:40:32,173
Speaker 11: stone shrine and there's this huge bodder statue at its heart.

1967
01:40:32,253 --> 01:40:33,933
Speaker 11: It's just dropped dead gorgeous.

1968
01:40:34,413 --> 01:40:38,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds gorgeous. Sound sounds amazing. What about the primates?

1969
01:40:38,013 --> 01:40:39,653
Speaker 2: Are they prolific in that part of the world.

1970
01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:44,493
Speaker 11: Well, as much as I enjoy admiring lost cities, Jack,

1971
01:40:44,893 --> 01:40:48,933
Speaker 11: I was constantly distracted by the primates. So, if you're

1972
01:40:49,013 --> 01:40:53,213
Speaker 11: up with your Disney knowledge, Polona Ruher was actually the

1973
01:40:53,293 --> 01:40:58,213
Speaker 11: inspiration for Disney's Monkey Kingdom movie because it's considered the

1974
01:40:58,293 --> 01:41:00,813
Speaker 11: best place in the country to get up close with

1975
01:41:01,293 --> 01:41:05,253
Speaker 11: Sri Lanka's three diurnal primates. They've got the purple faced

1976
01:41:05,453 --> 01:41:11,173
Speaker 11: leaf monkey, the Tokamakac and the absurdly delightful tufted gray Lingo.

1977
01:41:11,373 --> 01:41:14,493
Speaker 11: I love those langers. They're all full of mischief and

1978
01:41:14,573 --> 01:41:16,253
Speaker 11: they certainly know how to work a room.

1979
01:41:16,493 --> 01:41:20,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love the monkeys there. They're amazing. Do

1980
01:41:20,013 --> 01:41:21,813
Speaker 2: you have to watch your stuff? Do they get that close?

1981
01:41:22,493 --> 01:41:22,893
Speaker 1: Totally?

1982
01:41:23,013 --> 01:41:24,573
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely fearless.

1983
01:41:24,813 --> 01:41:25,013
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1984
01:41:25,093 --> 01:41:27,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, You've got to be smart because they will. They're

1985
01:41:27,773 --> 01:41:30,493
Speaker 2: always cunning, aren't they. They know how, Yeah, take advantage

1986
01:41:30,533 --> 01:41:31,733
Speaker 2: of a distract good tourist.

1987
01:41:31,933 --> 01:41:33,493
Speaker 11: Yeah, like a gang of muggers.

1988
01:41:33,733 --> 01:41:36,533
Speaker 2: Totally. So, speaking of wildlife, what national part would you

1989
01:41:36,613 --> 01:41:37,613
Speaker 2: recommend for Safari?

1990
01:41:38,293 --> 01:41:40,293
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a good question because there are quite a

1991
01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:43,373
Speaker 11: few that are all well regarded. But my pick would

1992
01:41:43,413 --> 01:41:48,413
Speaker 11: be uda Wa law because it's heaving with six hundred elephants.

1993
01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:51,093
Speaker 11: And the interesting thing about the shri Lunkan elephant jack

1994
01:41:51,213 --> 01:41:54,413
Speaker 11: is it's the biggest of all the Asian elephants. Yeah,

1995
01:41:54,573 --> 01:41:59,253
Speaker 11: and they've got herds at uda Wa Lawie of fifty elephants,

1996
01:41:59,293 --> 01:42:03,493
Speaker 11: you know, in one herd, So it is majesty ript large.

1997
01:42:03,773 --> 01:42:06,813
Speaker 11: Fun facts. By the way, the average shri Lunkan elephant

1998
01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:13,053
Speaker 11: guzzles down two hundred liters of water a day, isn't

1999
01:42:13,053 --> 01:42:17,253
Speaker 11: it amazing? So after after a lot of trunk time,

2000
01:42:17,933 --> 01:42:22,813
Speaker 11: we also swooned over mongooses and jackals and water monitors

2001
01:42:23,693 --> 01:42:26,973
Speaker 11: who aren't monitoring the elephant's intake by the way, lots

2002
01:42:27,013 --> 01:42:32,693
Speaker 11: of crops, sloth bears. We even drove over, most unfortunately

2003
01:42:32,853 --> 01:42:34,053
Speaker 11: a six meter python.

2004
01:42:34,333 --> 01:42:36,213
Speaker 9: Oh no, oh, I know.

2005
01:42:37,773 --> 01:42:37,973
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2006
01:42:38,093 --> 01:42:41,013
Speaker 11: The only disappointment jack, by the way, was the elusive leopard,

2007
01:42:41,253 --> 01:42:43,773
Speaker 11: very well named in Sri Lanka because he did indeed

2008
01:42:43,813 --> 01:42:48,173
Speaker 11: elude us Atalai. But apparently he's not so elusive that

2009
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:50,253
Speaker 11: at some of the other national parks, So I'll have

2010
01:42:50,293 --> 01:42:51,653
Speaker 11: to go back for a second serving.

2011
01:42:51,853 --> 01:42:53,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, Oh that sounds so good.

2012
01:42:53,693 --> 01:42:53,853
Speaker 4: Though.

2013
01:42:54,053 --> 01:42:55,773
Speaker 2: We're going to put all of your tips for tripping

2014
01:42:55,813 --> 01:42:58,773
Speaker 2: around Sri Lanka's World Heritage and Wildlife on the website.

2015
01:42:58,933 --> 01:43:01,893
Speaker 2: So if they found your phone, if they traveled down.

2016
01:43:02,493 --> 01:43:05,933
Speaker 11: The Samsung Find your Phone service indicates it's still in Disneyland.

2017
01:43:07,453 --> 01:43:11,773
Speaker 11: I've got a cast of Disney stars, all apparently ferreting

2018
01:43:11,853 --> 01:43:14,493
Speaker 11: out of it's supposed geographic whereabouts.

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01:43:14,653 --> 01:43:18,053
Speaker 2: Very good, Okay, well, good luck, good luck. Such a

2020
01:43:18,093 --> 01:43:19,973
Speaker 2: pain in the butt, but we'll be thinking of you,

2021
01:43:20,253 --> 01:43:22,133
Speaker 2: crossing our fingers and hope, the hoping that we can

2022
01:43:22,173 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 2: call you this time next week. Thanks so much, Mike.

2023
01:43:24,613 --> 01:43:27,653
Speaker 2: That's Mike Audley, our travel correspondent. Next up, the latest

2024
01:43:27,653 --> 01:43:30,013
Speaker 2: book from the author of The Girl on the Train

2025
01:43:30,293 --> 01:43:31,253
Speaker 2: twenty three to twelve.

2026
01:43:31,653 --> 01:43:33,733
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and bepured on code

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Speaker 1: on Zen for high quality supplements used Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: You're so good, Yes, scared.

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01:43:58,653 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 2: Us Talks EDB with Jack Tame twenty to twelve. Katherin

2031
01:44:01,933 --> 01:44:04,573
Speaker 2: Rains is our book reviewer. She has read a couple

2032
01:44:04,653 --> 01:44:07,893
Speaker 2: of reads for us this weekend and to recommend. Hey, Catherine,

2033
01:44:08,293 --> 01:44:10,573
Speaker 2: Morning Jack. So let's begin with the latest book from

2034
01:44:10,693 --> 01:44:13,093
Speaker 2: Paula Hawkins, the author of The Girl on the Train

2035
01:44:13,213 --> 01:44:14,773
Speaker 2: tell us about the Blue Hour.

2036
01:44:15,493 --> 01:44:18,853
Speaker 27: So this is a slow burn mystery thriller, and it's

2037
01:44:18,933 --> 01:44:22,573
Speaker 27: set in this very isolated island off the coast of Scotland,

2038
01:44:22,653 --> 01:44:25,253
Speaker 27: a place called Heiress, and it's only accessible during low

2039
01:44:25,333 --> 01:44:28,773
Speaker 27: tide and this island Reare. It's remote and storm batted,

2040
01:44:28,853 --> 01:44:31,773
Speaker 27: and that isolation and wilderness of the landscape really adds

2041
01:44:31,893 --> 01:44:35,573
Speaker 27: to the whole a atmosphere of the book and the

2042
01:44:35,693 --> 01:44:39,093
Speaker 27: island was inhabited by this famous former artist, a woman

2043
01:44:39,173 --> 01:44:41,733
Speaker 27: called Vanessa Chapman, and after her death, she left her

2044
01:44:41,813 --> 01:44:45,213
Speaker 27: works and her journals to a guy that was actually

2045
01:44:45,253 --> 01:44:47,373
Speaker 27: really a former enemy of HER's, a guy called Douglas.

2046
01:44:47,813 --> 01:44:51,133
Speaker 27: But her cheating husband has also disappeared about twenty years ago.

2047
01:44:51,893 --> 01:44:54,253
Speaker 27: And then there's this executor of the will, a woman

2048
01:44:54,333 --> 01:44:57,773
Speaker 27: called Grace, and she's not working particularly quickly to hand

2049
01:44:57,933 --> 01:45:02,613
Speaker 27: over the Vanessa's estate, and she actually lives in Chapman's house,

2050
01:45:02,653 --> 01:45:04,733
Speaker 27: and she's supposed to be sorting through these letters and

2051
01:45:04,813 --> 01:45:08,133
Speaker 27: works to determine what's personal and stays and what's professional

2052
01:45:08,173 --> 01:45:10,493
Speaker 27: and grea to this foundation that Vanessa had left the

2053
01:45:10,533 --> 01:45:12,853
Speaker 27: rest of the works too. And then a bone is

2054
01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:15,093
Speaker 27: found in one of her sculptures and it's revealed that

2055
01:45:15,173 --> 01:45:18,053
Speaker 27: it could be human, and this revelation links those three

2056
01:45:18,253 --> 01:45:20,453
Speaker 27: characters together, and so you get it told in the

2057
01:45:20,493 --> 01:45:23,093
Speaker 27: present and flashback from two decades ago, so you get

2058
01:45:23,133 --> 01:45:27,213
Speaker 27: the expert excerpts from her diaries, and this drama between

2059
01:45:27,253 --> 01:45:30,613
Speaker 27: the characters slowly unrevels. And it's a thriller that doesn't

2060
01:45:30,693 --> 01:45:33,213
Speaker 27: kind of, you know, wag you with twists and turns.

2061
01:45:33,253 --> 01:45:36,773
Speaker 27: It just slowly reveals itself bit by bit, and there's

2062
01:45:36,853 --> 01:45:40,013
Speaker 27: realistic characters in a tense, chilling atmosphere. Has a different

2063
01:45:40,093 --> 01:45:42,573
Speaker 27: vibe to her most popular book, Girl on the Train,

2064
01:45:42,653 --> 01:45:44,253
Speaker 27: but it's an excellent read all the same.

2065
01:45:44,293 --> 01:45:47,013
Speaker 2: Oh School, Okay, that's the Blueout by Paula Hawkins. You've

2066
01:45:47,013 --> 01:45:48,933
Speaker 2: also read Unfiltered by Gantha Steiner.

2067
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:51,533
Speaker 27: So. Gantha Steina is one of the stars of the

2068
01:45:51,573 --> 01:45:55,253
Speaker 27: Netflix documentary Drive to Survive about if one, and he

2069
01:45:55,493 --> 01:45:58,453
Speaker 27: was the team principal par has A head of the

2070
01:45:58,493 --> 01:46:01,373
Speaker 27: twenty twenty four season, but actually he was let go

2071
01:46:01,533 --> 01:46:03,453
Speaker 27: by gen has who's the guy that owns the team,

2072
01:46:03,853 --> 01:46:06,053
Speaker 27: and so he's friend of the responsibilities and the constraints

2073
01:46:06,093 --> 01:46:09,533
Speaker 27: that might use for an actual fact, he actually doesn't

2074
01:46:09,613 --> 01:46:10,533
Speaker 27: do this, and he.

2075
01:46:13,573 --> 01:46:14,293
Speaker 10: Feels fear in.

2076
01:46:14,333 --> 01:46:16,493
Speaker 27: The way that he talks about hass you know, And

2077
01:46:16,653 --> 01:46:20,373
Speaker 27: ultimately he was told that he wasn't required and actually

2078
01:46:20,453 --> 01:46:22,573
Speaker 27: in the middle of an Italian supermarket at the deli counter.

2079
01:46:22,693 --> 01:46:24,373
Speaker 27: So that's one way to find out you've got no job.

2080
01:46:25,293 --> 01:46:27,733
Speaker 27: And it's got those highs and lows and experiences from

2081
01:46:27,773 --> 01:46:31,333
Speaker 27: twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three, and probably the most

2082
01:46:31,533 --> 01:46:34,053
Speaker 27: interesting part of It is the opening sections on how

2083
01:46:34,173 --> 01:46:37,333
Speaker 27: Hass actually entered IF one, and so Steiner goes into

2084
01:46:37,333 --> 01:46:39,093
Speaker 27: a lot of details about how, you know, he was

2085
01:46:39,133 --> 01:46:41,773
Speaker 27: an ex Redville engineer and he managed to find himself

2086
01:46:42,213 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 27: a billionaire to invest in this perspective IF one team,

2087
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:47,093
Speaker 27: which happened to be Gene Hass, and then he presented

2088
01:46:47,133 --> 01:46:51,093
Speaker 27: it all to the I A and they entered eight

2089
01:46:51,173 --> 01:46:54,093
Speaker 27: years ago, which is really interesting now when you look

2090
01:46:54,133 --> 01:46:57,093
Speaker 27: at IF one and they really seem anti new operations

2091
01:46:57,173 --> 01:47:00,773
Speaker 27: being part of the F one racing and so, yeah,

2092
01:47:00,933 --> 01:47:02,533
Speaker 27: really interesting the way they talk about it, and he

2093
01:47:02,613 --> 01:47:06,053
Speaker 27: talks about on track incidents and things about Miksho Schumacher

2094
01:47:06,053 --> 01:47:10,173
Speaker 27: as well, and about Kevin Magnuson and those relationships and

2095
01:47:10,333 --> 01:47:13,573
Speaker 27: that really kind of those relationships between himself and Gene

2096
01:47:13,653 --> 01:47:16,453
Speaker 27: Hass and the frustration as the development tapes were turned

2097
01:47:16,493 --> 01:47:19,653
Speaker 27: off and then has was wondering why the team was plummeting.

2098
01:47:19,693 --> 01:47:23,013
Speaker 27: So that's really interesting and yeah, and Steiner has a

2099
01:47:23,053 --> 01:47:26,213
Speaker 27: certain way with telling the story and recollections and opinions

2100
01:47:26,333 --> 01:47:29,813
Speaker 27: and Heather be warned it contains prolific swearing. If you've

2101
01:47:29,853 --> 01:47:33,133
Speaker 27: watched if you've watched Drive to Survive, you will know this.

2102
01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:35,573
Speaker 27: But it's a good read, though, But I think that

2103
01:47:35,613 --> 01:47:38,453
Speaker 27: there's probably a more interesting autobiography to come in the future,

2104
01:47:38,493 --> 01:47:41,413
Speaker 27: which he keeps alluding to. But interesting if you want

2105
01:47:41,413 --> 01:47:43,173
Speaker 27: a little bit more behind the scenes of Drive.

2106
01:47:43,053 --> 01:47:46,053
Speaker 2: To Survive, Okay, cool, it's unfiltered by Gunthera Steiner. He

2107
01:47:46,253 --> 01:47:48,693
Speaker 2: is a real character. If Drive to Survive is anything

2108
01:47:48,693 --> 01:47:51,173
Speaker 2: to go by, I beg you Catherine Catherine's first book,

2109
01:47:51,253 --> 01:47:54,933
Speaker 2: The Blue Hour by Paula Hawkins. Coldplay has just released

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Speaker 2: their tenth album, Moon Music, right ahead of their new

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Speaker 2: Zealand tour. We're going to play you some of it.

2112
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Speaker 1: Next, giving you the inside scoop on All you Need

2113
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Speaker 1: to Know Saturday Mornings with Jack dam and be Pure

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Speaker 9: It'd be weather it words a mold, You've got a love,

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Speaker 9: weather it it remains, You've.

2117
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Speaker 4: Got a.

2118
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Speaker 7: Love.

2119
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Speaker 2: This is Coldplay. That songs called All My Love. You

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Speaker 2: instantly recognize the voice of Chris Martin and it's false aid, No,

2121
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Speaker 2: don't you. They've got a new album called Moon Music.

2122
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Speaker 2: As Dale Clifford as our music reviewer, she's been listening.

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Speaker 28: Hey, hello morning, it's an interesting place to come in

2124
01:48:55,453 --> 01:48:58,013
Speaker 28: on that song there, because you'd probably think the whole

2125
01:48:58,093 --> 01:49:02,093
Speaker 28: album is some sort of ballad man at his piano, yeah,

2126
01:49:02,613 --> 01:49:05,373
Speaker 28: and the and there is definitely plenty of that in here,

2127
01:49:05,493 --> 01:49:09,773
Speaker 28: but actually there's something so really big fat bass dance

2128
01:49:09,813 --> 01:49:13,733
Speaker 28: along tracks. They've gone somewhere different a Coldplay like they've

2129
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Speaker 28: gone into this space where the very synth or piano

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01:49:17,773 --> 01:49:21,933
Speaker 28: lead and then orchestral, which the early days of Coldplayer

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Speaker 28: don't think with that. Maybe since the uncoupling, you know,

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Speaker 28: like there's been a transition and the type of music

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Speaker 28: and the messages I think that Chris Martin wants to

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Speaker 28: share and his music. So this is like a follow

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Speaker 28: up album because obviously all their songs so far in

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Speaker 28: the last couple of years have been you know, a

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Speaker 28: sky full of stars, very space atmosic, and so Moon

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Speaker 28: Music follows along that same kind of theme, right, the

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Speaker 28: two kind of go together, and it does have a

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Speaker 28: lot of that beautiful, eerie sort of stuff where it's

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Speaker 28: his voice over a piano or guitar and then suddenly

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Speaker 28: the strings come in and then the orchestra comes in,

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01:50:04,173 --> 01:50:08,213
Speaker 28: and sometimes that quiet sort of sound and then other

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Speaker 28: times because actually there's been a critique for a song

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01:50:10,213 --> 01:50:13,893
Speaker 28: called we Pray on this album, and a lot of

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Speaker 28: people are saying it's too much of a mishmash of

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Speaker 28: styles because suddenly.

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Speaker 29: There's, like, like I said, fat bass, there's him singing.

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Speaker 28: Beautifully, there's like some hip hop kind of fusion together,

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01:50:24,933 --> 01:50:27,693
Speaker 28: and it probably shouldn't work. But for some reason, when

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01:50:27,693 --> 01:50:29,933
Speaker 28: it's Chris Martin offering me that I'm okay with it.

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01:50:30,973 --> 01:50:32,853
Speaker 29: I don't know what it is. I'm like okay.

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Speaker 28: And the overall arting theme of all of this music

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01:50:36,213 --> 01:50:39,333
Speaker 28: is about sharing the love and being able to just

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Speaker 28: appreciate people's differences and love that. And I'm not going

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01:50:43,173 --> 01:50:45,533
Speaker 28: to knock that message because I think there.

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Speaker 29: Needs to be more of that in this world.

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01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:50,333
Speaker 28: There's some dark spaces, you know, so I think Chris

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01:50:50,413 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 28: Martin is really trying to find that positive. It makes

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Speaker 28: me think that a lot of their live gigs there

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01:50:55,573 --> 01:50:59,493
Speaker 28: will be glow sticks and will be swaying.

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01:51:00,293 --> 01:51:03,333
Speaker 10: You know, No they're not.

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01:51:03,773 --> 01:51:04,613
Speaker 29: Maybe that's what they've done.

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01:51:04,773 --> 01:51:06,773
Speaker 28: I actually I really want to go to the gig

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Speaker 28: with the Light Up Wristband, and I don't know, it

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01:51:09,853 --> 01:51:12,853
Speaker 28: just sounds like a really beautiful festival all inclusive kind

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01:51:12,893 --> 01:51:14,173
Speaker 28: of vibe, and so I think this is what this

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01:51:14,333 --> 01:51:17,733
Speaker 28: music is about. Okay, there are some real dance along tracks.

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Speaker 28: You will wiggle along sometimes. I think there's been some great.

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Speaker 29: Co lads of voices together.

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Speaker 28: I think he is one of those artists that plenty

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01:51:24,973 --> 01:51:27,533
Speaker 28: of people are quite happy to work with him, and

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01:51:27,653 --> 01:51:29,893
Speaker 28: probably he is quite happy to work with other people too,

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01:51:29,933 --> 01:51:33,933
Speaker 28: because it opens up the audience for Coldplay. And again,

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01:51:33,973 --> 01:51:37,893
Speaker 28: the musicality is really nice. You look sort of atmospheric,

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01:51:37,973 --> 01:51:41,333
Speaker 28: and then this musical stuff and orchestral stuff that comes in.

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Speaker 28: There's no rush in this album, right, Maybe that's a

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Speaker 28: really good thing for all of us too. It's good,

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Speaker 28: take your pace with it, and it's okay. Maybe even

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01:51:50,733 --> 01:51:52,813
Speaker 28: part way through their next live set, we'll have all

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01:51:52,813 --> 01:51:53,533
Speaker 28: all dropped.

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01:51:53,253 --> 01:51:55,573
Speaker 29: Down and do down with dog and have some yoga stretching.

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Speaker 29: Like I couldn't help but think that this morning when

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01:51:58,253 --> 01:51:58,853
Speaker 29: I was listening to it.

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Speaker 10: Well, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm like I was saying earlier, I just adore Coldplay's

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01:52:05,773 --> 01:52:09,573
Speaker 2: first two probably three albums. I love the first two albums,

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01:52:09,613 --> 01:52:12,653
Speaker 2: the third one I like a lot. Yeah, after that,

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01:52:12,773 --> 01:52:14,493
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a problem with the kind

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01:52:14,493 --> 01:52:18,013
Speaker 2: of stadium rock sound. Yeah, yeah, I don't like it

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01:52:18,053 --> 01:52:19,373
Speaker 2: as much as I like their first albums.

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Speaker 29: Well, I think that's the thing.

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01:52:20,733 --> 01:52:20,893
Speaker 10: It was.

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01:52:21,213 --> 01:52:23,013
Speaker 28: It was a guy and his guitar who could then

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01:52:23,053 --> 01:52:25,013
Speaker 28: play a lot of other instruments, but it had that

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01:52:25,173 --> 01:52:28,853
Speaker 28: more rock probably sound to it, and a little bit

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01:52:28,893 --> 01:52:31,973
Speaker 28: more worldly and not just this kind of peace loving

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01:52:32,213 --> 01:52:35,413
Speaker 28: tree hugging kind of Yeah. I mean they're very more

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Speaker 28: more synth pop I think now than they are probably

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01:52:38,293 --> 01:52:41,093
Speaker 28: any sort of rock fusion. Yes, right, yeah, their element's

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Speaker 28: gone and so I guess that's the original stuff that

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01:52:43,213 --> 01:52:44,613
Speaker 28: people really love them for.

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01:52:45,493 --> 01:52:47,213
Speaker 29: It's what got them on all the charts, right and

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01:52:47,293 --> 01:52:48,133
Speaker 29: global recognition.

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01:52:48,373 --> 01:52:50,533
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Okay, this is just the evolution.

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Speaker 28: I mean I wonder if they'll go back there at

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01:52:52,253 --> 01:52:55,333
Speaker 28: some stage and go, we've done this peaceful vibe. Yeah

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01:52:56,413 --> 01:52:59,853
Speaker 28: you can rock, you know, like yeah, yeah, like maybe

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Speaker 28: you can go back into a lot more of that

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01:53:02,173 --> 01:53:03,213
Speaker 28: some loud guitar eh.

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01:53:03,213 --> 01:53:05,773
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's just a bit of it, just

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01:53:05,813 --> 01:53:06,893
Speaker 2: a bit of a met Yeah.

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01:53:07,173 --> 01:53:10,013
Speaker 28: It makes me think, how do they do this album live?

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01:53:10,253 --> 01:53:13,093
Speaker 28: Because it is more of that sort of trippy, cool,

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01:53:13,893 --> 01:53:17,653
Speaker 28: low key almost kind of sound. So maybe they just

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01:53:17,733 --> 01:53:18,933
Speaker 28: have to fuse in the rock.

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01:53:19,613 --> 01:53:24,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do Certainly there's certainly talented musicians, is no

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01:53:24,333 --> 01:53:26,693
Speaker 2: doubt about it. I think I think he's classically trained from.

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01:53:26,653 --> 01:53:28,493
Speaker 28: That and you can tell, yeah when you hear all

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01:53:28,533 --> 01:53:31,173
Speaker 28: the layering that they do, and in particular in this album,

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01:53:31,253 --> 01:53:34,333
Speaker 28: it's actually very beautiful. So have a listen to some

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01:53:34,453 --> 01:53:36,053
Speaker 28: of that stuff and appreciate the fact that I think

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01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:38,933
Speaker 28: he's maybe showcasing some of the other side. But like

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01:53:39,013 --> 01:53:42,373
Speaker 28: you say, for the last probably decade he's sat there,

2225
01:53:43,733 --> 01:53:45,173
Speaker 28: so is there a return.

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01:53:45,573 --> 01:53:47,533
Speaker 29: And also of those other band members also going, hey,

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01:53:47,613 --> 01:53:49,373
Speaker 29: let's be up the sound.

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01:53:49,493 --> 01:53:51,133
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay for to give.

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01:53:50,973 --> 01:53:53,453
Speaker 29: It, it's an eight out of ten ten nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be when they're in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We'll have a couple of minutes

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Speaker 2: col catch you're so that is a stale Clifford our

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01:54:02,653 --> 01:54:04,813
Speaker 2: of their good songs from the new album in a

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Speaker 2: few minutes eight to twelve.

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Speaker 2: White Striker Chris Wood for now that we're going to

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Speaker 2: leave you with Coldplay ahead of the New Zealand tour.

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Speaker 2: They've just released a new album. The album is Moon Music,

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Speaker 2: not mood music, but is Moon Music. This song is

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01:54:56,773 --> 01:54:59,333
Speaker 2: called I Turner. See you next week.

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