1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,853 Speaker 1: from news Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,693 --> 00:00:15,013 Speaker 2: Twenty three to twelve on News talk EDB. Time to 4 00:00:15,013 --> 00:00:17,173 Speaker 2: get your book picks for this weekend. We've got two 5 00:00:17,373 --> 00:00:20,493 Speaker 2: non fiction reads and Katherine Rains, our book reviewers, here 6 00:00:20,533 --> 00:00:23,733 Speaker 2: with them for us. Kilder Catherine, Morning Jack. Okay, let's 7 00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:26,013 Speaker 2: begin with this new book about Jackie Kennedy and Nassis. 8 00:00:26,053 --> 00:00:31,453 Speaker 2: It's called Jackie Public, Private Secret by Jay Randy Tarabelli. 9 00:00:32,093 --> 00:00:34,933 Speaker 3: So, as you say, there's been a lot of biographies 10 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:37,773 Speaker 3: written about Jackie, and this is the product of hundreds 11 00:00:37,773 --> 00:00:41,573 Speaker 3: of interviews that temporally conducted over thirty years, as well 12 00:00:41,613 --> 00:00:44,653 Speaker 3: as previously unrest material from the JFK library. And so 13 00:00:44,693 --> 00:00:47,853 Speaker 3: you get this really interesting perspective of her quite personal 14 00:00:47,893 --> 00:00:50,893 Speaker 3: behind the scenes and not a bogger of biography that 15 00:00:51,213 --> 00:00:53,813 Speaker 3: really reviews world events from her perspective. But it all 16 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:56,893 Speaker 3: studies the Kennedy presidency or those kind of things. But 17 00:00:57,493 --> 00:01:00,533 Speaker 3: you get this portrait of what feels like the more 18 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:03,733 Speaker 3: elusive Jackie Kennedy Nassas and her relationships with her parents 19 00:01:03,733 --> 00:01:06,733 Speaker 3: and siblings and step siblings and friends and Qui and 20 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:09,973 Speaker 3: all sorts of people and it isn't told chronologically, but 21 00:01:10,093 --> 00:01:12,653 Speaker 3: it's interconnected and you get these moments, and so this 22 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:15,733 Speaker 3: picture of Jackie in her life builds up like that 23 00:01:15,813 --> 00:01:18,333 Speaker 3: incites to her relationship with her father and her very 24 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:22,093 Speaker 3: overbearing mother, and her relationship with her stepfather, and there's 25 00:01:22,133 --> 00:01:26,133 Speaker 3: this always this undercurrent attention and competition with her sister Lee, 26 00:01:26,533 --> 00:01:28,853 Speaker 3: and you know, talks about her marriage to JFK and 27 00:01:28,853 --> 00:01:32,213 Speaker 3: his assassination and her marriage to Aristola Analysis, but also 28 00:01:32,253 --> 00:01:35,253 Speaker 3: about her projects and her issues with feeling safe and 29 00:01:35,253 --> 00:01:38,213 Speaker 3: secure and how she rebuilt her life and the publishing 30 00:01:38,213 --> 00:01:40,893 Speaker 3: world and her editorial work and her relationships, and then 31 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:43,533 Speaker 3: with her cancer diagnosis and the events and her family, 32 00:01:44,093 --> 00:01:46,773 Speaker 3: and she she shows her as this very stubborn and 33 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:49,933 Speaker 3: elitis woman, but also very kind and caring and focused 34 00:01:49,973 --> 00:01:52,253 Speaker 3: in her approach to life. And so it's not this 35 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:56,173 Speaker 3: scholarly intellectual biography of her, but an interesting read about 36 00:01:56,213 --> 00:01:56,973 Speaker 3: her life all the same. 37 00:01:57,133 --> 00:02:01,053 Speaker 2: Nice. Okay, there's Jackie Public Private Secret by Jay Randy 38 00:02:01,733 --> 00:02:06,733 Speaker 2: Tara Barelli. That's a great name, isn't Jay Randy? Next 39 00:02:06,853 --> 00:02:10,533 Speaker 2: up tell us about the let Them Theory by Mel Robins. 40 00:02:11,013 --> 00:02:15,533 Speaker 3: So I'm not usually a particularly massive self help book reader, 41 00:02:15,613 --> 00:02:18,973 Speaker 3: but this one kept appearing everywhere I looked. And the 42 00:02:19,013 --> 00:02:22,093 Speaker 3: start of this book talks about Mail Robinson. It focuses 43 00:02:22,133 --> 00:02:24,413 Speaker 3: on her and how she ended up in that self 44 00:02:24,413 --> 00:02:26,853 Speaker 3: help space in her podcast. And she was raised in 45 00:02:26,893 --> 00:02:30,253 Speaker 3: Michigan and attended doubt Mouth and went to Boston College 46 00:02:30,573 --> 00:02:34,253 Speaker 3: for law, and she worked practicing law, and at thirty one, 47 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:36,613 Speaker 3: she decided that she hated that, and she hired a 48 00:02:36,613 --> 00:02:38,293 Speaker 3: life coach who actually told her that she'd make a 49 00:02:38,333 --> 00:02:41,893 Speaker 3: good life coach. But actually the story kind of skips 50 00:02:42,213 --> 00:02:44,133 Speaker 3: a little bit further and in her late thirties and 51 00:02:44,173 --> 00:02:46,333 Speaker 3: she's pregnant with her third child and her husband, Chris, 52 00:02:46,413 --> 00:02:48,173 Speaker 3: is laid off from his tech job, and he starts 53 00:02:48,213 --> 00:02:50,893 Speaker 3: this pizza restaurant chain, which fails, and they go into 54 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:54,373 Speaker 3: this complete financial free form, and she begins drinking heavily 55 00:02:54,413 --> 00:02:57,373 Speaker 3: and taking medication, and at forty seven becomes a real 56 00:02:57,413 --> 00:03:00,093 Speaker 3: turning point for her. She receives a diagnosis of ADHD 57 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:02,893 Speaker 3: and dyslexia, and this is how she kind of ends 58 00:03:02,973 --> 00:03:05,693 Speaker 3: up in this space. And the let Them theory focuses 59 00:03:05,733 --> 00:03:08,733 Speaker 3: on how you think about relationships and control and your 60 00:03:08,733 --> 00:03:12,093 Speaker 3: own personal perspective on things and how you want to 61 00:03:12,133 --> 00:03:15,213 Speaker 3: advance things. It's at the first half of it is 62 00:03:15,253 --> 00:03:18,293 Speaker 3: about not trying to manage other people, and in the 63 00:03:18,373 --> 00:03:21,213 Speaker 3: second half she turns to this other concept from let 64 00:03:21,253 --> 00:03:23,773 Speaker 3: them to let me and realizing that you cannot take 65 00:03:23,813 --> 00:03:27,173 Speaker 3: control and you take responsibility for what happens next. And 66 00:03:27,213 --> 00:03:29,173 Speaker 3: it's one of those self help books that either resonates 67 00:03:29,173 --> 00:03:31,853 Speaker 3: with you or it doesn't. It doesn't have massively earth 68 00:03:31,933 --> 00:03:35,893 Speaker 3: shattering new information, but good reminder about real life challenges 69 00:03:35,933 --> 00:03:38,613 Speaker 3: and insights on how to navigate change and the need 70 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:41,293 Speaker 3: for control, and reminds us that we're actually responsible for 71 00:03:41,373 --> 00:03:44,333 Speaker 3: our own success and failures and our happiness and sadness. 72 00:03:44,373 --> 00:03:46,933 Speaker 3: And you can't control other people's thoughts and feelings, but 73 00:03:46,973 --> 00:03:49,013 Speaker 3: you can control your own. And so yeah, I found 74 00:03:49,213 --> 00:03:51,653 Speaker 3: a very interesting perspective on what she talks about. 75 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:54,373 Speaker 2: It's good that brought you around to self help books, 76 00:03:54,373 --> 00:03:55,213 Speaker 2: maybe or a few mores. 77 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:57,773 Speaker 3: I don't know that I quite go that far, but 78 00:03:57,853 --> 00:03:59,333 Speaker 3: I did find this, and I listened to a couple 79 00:03:59,333 --> 00:04:00,933 Speaker 3: of her podcasts and things, and the things she talks 80 00:04:01,213 --> 00:04:01,973 Speaker 3: that's really interesting. 81 00:04:02,053 --> 00:04:04,693 Speaker 2: Oh nice, We're not going to catch you reading Ten 82 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:10,133 Speaker 2: Keys to Management Success or something. Probably not fair enough. No, 83 00:04:10,213 --> 00:04:12,893 Speaker 2: it sounds good. It does. It sounds really interesting, thank you, kasm. 84 00:04:12,933 --> 00:04:15,533 Speaker 2: So that's the Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins and 85 00:04:15,613 --> 00:04:18,373 Speaker 2: Catherine's first book, the one about Jackie Kennedy anassas, is 86 00:04:18,413 --> 00:04:23,173 Speaker 2: called Jackie Public Private Secret. We'll put both of those 87 00:04:23,173 --> 00:04:25,893 Speaker 2: books up on the website, and if you're looking for 88 00:04:25,973 --> 00:04:28,493 Speaker 2: anything from our show, honestly, the easiest thing to do 89 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:30,613 Speaker 2: is just to go to the website news Talk ZDB 90 00:04:30,773 --> 00:04:33,853 Speaker 2: dot co, dot MZ, forward slash Jack. That takes you 91 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:36,453 Speaker 2: straight through to our show page. 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