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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from US talks ed by doing up the house, astorting

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Speaker 1: the garden, asked Pete for ahead The Resident Builder with

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Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp Call eight hundred eighty eight US talks

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Speaker 2: The house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 2: grass is overgrown.

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Speaker 3: In the yard, and even when.

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Speaker 4: A dog is too old to borrow, and when you're

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Speaker 4: sitting at the table trying not to starve.

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Speaker 1: Sissor even when we.

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Speaker 2: Again, even when you're therellone.

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Speaker 5: Well, a very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday. On a Sunday morning, normally

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Speaker 5: kick off pardon the pun is at around six o'clock,

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Speaker 5: but of course slightly delayed after that live coverage from

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Speaker 5: the All Black the England match, part of their Grand

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Speaker 5: Slam tour of the Northern Hemisphere. Obviously, the Grand Slam

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Speaker 5: is kind of out the window now a defeat to England,

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Speaker 5: but fantastic commentary as always from our cometary team. Right,

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Speaker 5: let's change gear. Let's get into making stuff, doing stuff,

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Speaker 5: being active around the house, fixing things or figuring out

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Speaker 5: how to fix things. We can talk about all of

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Speaker 5: these things because this is the Resident Builder on Sunday

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Speaker 5: and we are here to talk about building. And that

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Speaker 5: could be some renovation work on your own property. It

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Speaker 5: could be maintenance. You might be thinking about a new build,

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Speaker 5: you might be thinking about additions. You might be thinking

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Speaker 5: about improvements to your home. You might be thinking about

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Speaker 5: summer barbecues on the deck. But the deck doesn't exist

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Speaker 5: right now. All the decks in slightly shabby. Well, maybe

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Speaker 5: it's falling down and you need to know how to

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Speaker 5: fix it. Well, we can talk about all of these

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Speaker 5: things on the program this morning. The lines are open.

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Speaker 5: The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You

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Speaker 5: can text, of course, that's nine two nine to two

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Speaker 5: or zbzb from your mobile phone, and if you'd like

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Speaker 5: to send me an email, you're more than welcome to

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Speaker 5: do that as well. It's Pete at newstalksb dot co

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Speaker 5: dot Nz. So Pete at newstalksb dot co dot Nz.

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Speaker 5: Right twenty seven minutes after six, we've got a fairly

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Speaker 5: packed old show this morning on a touch base with

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Speaker 5: who's won the BCO Apprentice of the Year for concreting.

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Speaker 5: He's got a remarkable story, so I'm going to touch

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Speaker 5: base with him, and then after eight o'clock I'm going

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Speaker 5: to have a chat with Ralph Kessel, who's head of

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Speaker 5: Concrete New Zealand, and I think we've ever actually on

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Speaker 5: the show. We might have talked about concrete from time

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Speaker 5: to time, but not specifically about how does it made,

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Speaker 5: what's its impact on the environment and some of the

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Speaker 5: changes if you're involved in the whole green building space,

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Speaker 5: sustainable buildings. A lot of criticism around concrete for its

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Speaker 5: impact in terms of carbon Obviously, Traditionally the way to

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Speaker 5: manufacture it involves the burning of a vast amount of

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Speaker 5: fuel in order to make the cement. That's changing a

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Speaker 5: little bit, so there's some change to concrete. The concrete

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Speaker 5: has been around, once you get into it, you know,

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Speaker 5: at least two thousand years, right. So the Romans we're

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Speaker 5: which is the one in Rome. Pathenan is the one

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Speaker 5: So anyway, we're going to talk with Thraf Kessel from

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Speaker 5: Concrete New Zealand, after eight o'clock. Red Kline pass on

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Speaker 5: wire upper again these teaching seminars and engagements that he does.

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Speaker 5: But here be beaming in at eight thirty this morning.

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Speaker 5: So busy old morning. If you've got tasks that you

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Speaker 5: would like to get underway, but you're just not quite

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Speaker 5: sure where to start, what to do, what products to use,

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Speaker 5: which contractors to engage, then now's the time to call.

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Speaker 5: We will get busy a little bit later on the show,

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Speaker 5: but right now you could kick us off. I eight

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Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Trust

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Speaker 5: you've had a good week, glorious morning, like absolutely spectacular morning.

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Speaker 5: Driving in this morning, high tide in the harbor. A

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Speaker 5: a fabulous day out there. Good on you. Slightly envious

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Speaker 5: take too much. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty the

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Speaker 5: number to call. And if you've got a question of

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Speaker 5: This is where one of the things that I've come

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Speaker 5: of the people you meet are actually just genuinely good people.

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Speaker 5: And I had a situation this week where I needed

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Speaker 5: installed it for me five years ago now and said, look,

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Speaker 5: next time you're in the area, can you swing by

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Speaker 5: and just do it, because you'll do it ten times

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Speaker 5: faster than me, and you know what you're doing as

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Speaker 5: opposed to me where I have a crack at it,

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Speaker 5: but the results might be a bit uncertain. Let's say,

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Speaker 5: you know it's not my cup of tea necessarily glass

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Speaker 5: Thing was he said, Yeah, I think I'm in the

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Speaker 5: Text me goes yep, I can be there in twenty minutes. Awesome.

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Speaker 5: So Dale, thank you from Dale's Glass and Glazing. Used

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Speaker 5: them for years, got them to do all sorts of jobs.

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Speaker 5: But that's awesome, And this is that thing of that

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Speaker 5: those connections you build up with people in business over

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Speaker 5: a period of time. But Dale from Dale's Glass and Glazing,

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Speaker 5: thank you very much. Mate, really appreciated that. Radio six

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Speaker 5: thirty one here at News Talk ZB we're taking your calls.

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Speaker 5: If you've got a question about building, about the rules,

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Speaker 5: the regulations, the contractors contracts themselves, materials to use. We

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Speaker 5: can talk all of these things. Oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. And I ended

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Speaker 5: up making something I've never made in my life this week,

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Speaker 5: a Plinko board. Yeah, even Locke, my producer, is looking

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Speaker 5: make one, I didn't know what it was either, but

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Speaker 5: I made one. You can actually see it on my

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Speaker 5: social media. If you go to my Facebook page, you'll

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Speaker 5: see it there and they'll get to use it today

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Speaker 5: because today is the day of the Saint Leo's School Fair.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you a bit more about that later on

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Speaker 5: as well, but right now, let's talk. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty the number to call.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fans, or wondering

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Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Gabber call on eight hundred and eighty eight, the

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Speaker 5: On your news talks they be We're into it. Oh

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Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call. Yes,

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Speaker 5: if you want to see what a Plinko board looks like,

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Speaker 5: or Plinko game, Plinko board game, something like that, check

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Speaker 5: out my just go to Facebook search for a resident

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Speaker 5: builder on Facebook. You'll find it there. It was good

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Speaker 5: fun actually making that. It was raining, so I figure

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Speaker 5: it's okay to be in the workshop when it's raining

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Speaker 5: because I can't do any jobs outside. John. Good morning

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Speaker 5: to you, sir, Good morning, everythings very well, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I've got a question regarding painting, and I guess also.

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Speaker 7: As best off.

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Speaker 8: Because it's the seventy old house, yes, and it's all done,

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Speaker 8: and why we're board which I don't want to stand.

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Speaker 5: Yep, fair enough, So my.

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Speaker 8: First thoughts for use bresine smooth surface power.

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Speaker 6: Instead of standing, yeah, yeah, and then maybe lumbersider or

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, I guess the good only for being cautious.

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Speaker 5: And actually I was just looking at a story now

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Speaker 5: about apparently there's they've discovered asbestos and colored sand in

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Speaker 5: children's toys. Absolutely yeah, So we'll talk about that in

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Speaker 5: a minute. But for you, I guess the important thing is,

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Speaker 5: as with all paint jobs, it's about the surface preparation

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Speaker 5: that will give you longevity.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: If you do a rubbish job of the preparation, the

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Speaker 5: paint won't stick and you'll be repainting it. So the

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Speaker 5: challenge for you is that You've then got to go, Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: how do i prep that area in such a way

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Speaker 5: and creating fibers. So I would start with before you

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Speaker 5: do any actual painting, I'd probably use something like, actually

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Speaker 5: I used it just the other week, the Razine housewash

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Speaker 5: and prep. So dilute it down, apply it onto the surface,

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Speaker 5: then rinse it off. Let that dry thoroughly, and that

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Speaker 5: will take off all of that mold and mildew and

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Speaker 5: so on the in a bit of that surface debris

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Speaker 5: that's on the paintwork. I'm not sure about the smooth

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Speaker 5: surface cellar. I think I'd probably just prime it with

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Speaker 5: quick dry and then once you've done the priming, go

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Speaker 5: over it with either Lumberside or Sonics, whichever of the

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Speaker 5: exterior paints you want to use. In terms of the

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Speaker 5: actual paint that's on there at the moment, is it

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Speaker 5: flaking or bubbing, bubbling or anything like that?

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Speaker 8: No, No, because.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if if there are areas.

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Speaker 8: They're flaking, I just don't understand.

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Speaker 5: Agree with you there. I'm just thinking if there are

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Speaker 5: some loose areas you may still want to, you know,

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Speaker 5: scrape if the if the paint's obviously flaking and you

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Speaker 5: paint over it, that paint's still going to flake off,

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Speaker 5: so you don't want to have to redo it. I'm

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Speaker 5: just trying to think of a safe way to remove.

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Speaker 8: That the etching prime would be and just normal quick dra.

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Speaker 5: In terms of bonding, yes, but like where I've use

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Speaker 5: smooth surface Seala has been on things like polyurethane, for example,

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Speaker 5: where I've had a polyurethane surface that i want to

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Speaker 5: bond to, and even then I've done smooth surface Seala

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Speaker 5: and then quick dry over the top and then my

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Speaker 5: top coats. I'm just not sure. I mean, hey, look,

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Speaker 5: I would have thought in your instance, just some quick

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Speaker 5: over the top. If there's any loosened flaking bits, you

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Speaker 5: could very gingerly sort of scrape those back with a

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Speaker 5: tungsten But then what you want to do is collect

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Speaker 5: All right, it feels like we're getting into that season.

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Speaker 5: Be your News Talks hed B six forty three, and

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Speaker 5: Oh good, no trouble, pleasure, nice to talk with you,

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Speaker 5: You too, all the best. Take care then, And I

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Speaker 5: Oh, Tracy, good morning.

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Speaker 5: How are you very well? How can I help?

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Speaker 11: I'm just inquiring about We're doing a back fence between

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Speaker 5: Talk sa'd be. We're talking all things building and construction

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Speaker 5: We're talking construction, we're talking building, we're talking those little

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Speaker 5: them in, right, Okay, They've probably been in for forty years,

429
00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,135
Speaker 5: so I'm not criticizing the people that put them in.

430
00:24:12,335 --> 00:24:17,535
Speaker 5: But fence posts in the ground. Dig a hole, set

431
00:24:17,615 --> 00:24:21,215
Speaker 5: up some concrete fence posts and do the concrete. If

432
00:24:21,255 --> 00:24:24,295
Speaker 5: you leave it just slightly low, or if you leave

433
00:24:24,335 --> 00:24:27,895
Speaker 5: it with a dip towards that will collect water. The

434
00:24:28,015 --> 00:24:31,455
Speaker 5: post will rot at that point right over time. So

435
00:24:32,095 --> 00:24:34,375
Speaker 5: here's my little tip. If you're going to do fence posts,

436
00:24:34,455 --> 00:24:36,415
Speaker 5: that sort of thing concrete up to at least the

437
00:24:36,495 --> 00:24:39,855
Speaker 5: ground level and then slightly higher against the post will

438
00:24:40,015 --> 00:24:42,975
Speaker 5: fall away just ever so slightly, just to make sure

439
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,295
Speaker 5: that the water doesn't puddle there, and the post will

440
00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:47,815
Speaker 5: last a lot longer. I had plenty of time to

441
00:24:47,895 --> 00:24:50,655
Speaker 5: think about that while I was trying to break up

442
00:24:50,735 --> 00:24:53,175
Speaker 5: this post that had already snapped off at ground level.

443
00:24:53,615 --> 00:24:56,775
Speaker 5: But then I had to dig out the post in

444
00:24:56,895 --> 00:24:59,415
Speaker 5: that location. And I know people will go, but why

445
00:24:59,455 --> 00:25:00,935
Speaker 5: didn't you just put a new post next to it?

446
00:25:01,055 --> 00:25:04,135
Speaker 5: Because I wanted to reuse the same fence panels because

447
00:25:04,175 --> 00:25:07,535
Speaker 5: I'm cheap, and so I needed to put the post

448
00:25:07,655 --> 00:25:12,615
Speaker 5: back in exactly the same spot right. Anyway, it worked eventually,

449
00:25:12,815 --> 00:25:14,895
Speaker 5: but it did take a little bit of digging to

450
00:25:15,015 --> 00:25:18,735
Speaker 5: dig around the concrete to get it broken up, to

451
00:25:18,775 --> 00:25:21,015
Speaker 5: get it pulled out, like pulling old rotten teeth. It

452
00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,295
Speaker 5: was not that I've done much of that. Oh eight

453
00:25:23,415 --> 00:25:25,815
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

454
00:25:26,575 --> 00:25:29,495
Speaker 5: and we are talking all things building construction through till

455
00:25:30,935 --> 00:25:32,855
Speaker 5: eight o'clock. We'll have New Sport and where they We're

456
00:25:32,855 --> 00:25:35,295
Speaker 5: going an interview with Ralph Kessel from Concrete New Zealand

457
00:25:35,615 --> 00:25:37,455
Speaker 5: speaking about concrete as we have a little bit on

458
00:25:37,495 --> 00:25:39,615
Speaker 5: the program this morning, and of course the Red Climb

459
00:25:39,615 --> 00:25:42,055
Speaker 5: passed from eight point thirty, so is the old morning

460
00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:47,375
Speaker 5: ross A very good morning to you, sir, very well,

461
00:25:47,455 --> 00:25:47,695
Speaker 5: thank you.

462
00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:52,095
Speaker 3: Right well, I'm here to give you a bit of help.

463
00:25:52,455 --> 00:25:54,855
Speaker 3: Go for it because I think I think you need it,

464
00:25:54,895 --> 00:25:56,375
Speaker 3: and I think sounds like a lot of other people

465
00:25:56,455 --> 00:26:02,895
Speaker 3: need it. Forget about bloody concrete and posts. I'm a

466
00:26:02,975 --> 00:26:08,175
Speaker 3: fair bit older than you, right and and I'm still

467
00:26:08,255 --> 00:26:13,575
Speaker 3: putting posts in occasionally. Yes, forget about concrete. Buy a

468
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:17,655
Speaker 3: decent rammer and dig a hole and put the tops

469
00:26:17,695 --> 00:26:21,215
Speaker 3: or other in one heap, clay in the other heap.

470
00:26:22,135 --> 00:26:25,135
Speaker 3: Get yourself some broken bricks or some stones. Yeah half

471
00:26:25,175 --> 00:26:30,255
Speaker 3: reasonare sized stones. Ram the post in well and do

472
00:26:30,335 --> 00:26:32,575
Speaker 3: it properly. You can rap it, heart it as hard

473
00:26:32,615 --> 00:26:33,615
Speaker 3: as you can do concrete.

474
00:26:34,175 --> 00:26:35,495
Speaker 6: Well, I can on in the mid.

475
00:26:35,495 --> 00:26:41,015
Speaker 3: Seventies and ram it properly. And then if you do

476
00:26:41,175 --> 00:26:43,215
Speaker 3: have a problem later on, and make sure you put

477
00:26:43,255 --> 00:26:45,935
Speaker 3: your stone in half, not at the bottom. Put a

478
00:26:46,015 --> 00:26:47,975
Speaker 3: bit of clay in ram put a stone or a

479
00:26:48,015 --> 00:26:51,095
Speaker 3: bit ram it, put some more clay in, ramm it

480
00:26:51,455 --> 00:26:53,535
Speaker 3: another stone if you've got one. Rabbit, doesn't matter if

481
00:26:53,575 --> 00:26:56,655
Speaker 3: you haven't, and then put your top sword and run

482
00:26:56,735 --> 00:26:57,375
Speaker 3: the hell out of it.

483
00:26:57,975 --> 00:27:00,455
Speaker 5: And when you say that's the tool that you're using

484
00:27:00,535 --> 00:27:03,055
Speaker 5: for that looks it's like a long sort of wrecking bar,

485
00:27:03,295 --> 00:27:06,255
Speaker 5: but with like a almost like a fist sized lump

486
00:27:06,455 --> 00:27:07,135
Speaker 5: on the bottom of it.

487
00:27:07,895 --> 00:27:13,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could say that is like a crowbar, like

488
00:27:13,255 --> 00:27:15,695
Speaker 3: a crowbat, but it's got a thing on the bottom,

489
00:27:15,695 --> 00:27:18,335
Speaker 3: and round the hell out of the thing. And you

490
00:27:18,415 --> 00:27:20,695
Speaker 3: can't hurt it. It's not going to bleed, so just

491
00:27:20,775 --> 00:27:24,055
Speaker 3: get into it. And then if by chance your post

492
00:27:24,135 --> 00:27:27,215
Speaker 3: comes loose and you've got concrete around it, you've got

493
00:27:27,255 --> 00:27:31,135
Speaker 3: a problem. I throw the bloody post away. If it

494
00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:33,895
Speaker 3: comes loose and you've rammed it in, which is unlikely

495
00:27:34,015 --> 00:27:37,335
Speaker 3: it will, then you just dig a wee bit out

496
00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:39,975
Speaker 3: and ram the hell out of it again, and do

497
00:27:40,095 --> 00:27:40,455
Speaker 3: it again.

498
00:27:41,575 --> 00:27:44,975
Speaker 5: Do you need to have the concrete, some stones in there,

499
00:27:45,055 --> 00:27:47,175
Speaker 5: some metals in there, did.

500
00:27:47,055 --> 00:27:47,455
Speaker 9: Not hear me?

501
00:27:48,855 --> 00:27:51,055
Speaker 3: Put some clay in the bottom, and then put a

502
00:27:51,095 --> 00:27:53,455
Speaker 3: stone on half a brick or whatever you want in there,

503
00:27:53,815 --> 00:27:57,615
Speaker 3: and then a bit more clay, and make sure your

504
00:27:57,655 --> 00:27:59,735
Speaker 3: clay goes in before you if you've got play in

505
00:27:59,775 --> 00:28:03,975
Speaker 3: your area, that is, and make sure you put the

506
00:28:04,055 --> 00:28:07,535
Speaker 3: clay in before you put the top soil in. And

507
00:28:07,655 --> 00:28:09,735
Speaker 3: your post should never move if you've done it properly.

508
00:28:11,335 --> 00:28:13,175
Speaker 5: And look, I'm not going to disagree with you. I

509
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:16,455
Speaker 5: get it exactly what you're going because when you started

510
00:28:16,535 --> 00:28:18,935
Speaker 5: to say ram them, and I'm thinking, I've had guys

511
00:28:19,055 --> 00:28:21,455
Speaker 5: you know, drive piles and for me. But that's that's

512
00:28:21,455 --> 00:28:22,495
Speaker 5: an intensive cat.

513
00:28:23,295 --> 00:28:26,495
Speaker 3: No, that's a post driver. That's a totally different weapon.

514
00:28:26,695 --> 00:28:29,255
Speaker 5: Yes, and put it if you put it.

515
00:28:29,655 --> 00:28:32,775
Speaker 3: If you're putting in two thousand posts up at Boody Hill,

516
00:28:32,775 --> 00:28:33,975
Speaker 3: you're not going to dig them with a shovel.

517
00:28:34,655 --> 00:28:35,495
Speaker 8: I know that.

518
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:37,815
Speaker 3: I might have a guard up, but you wouldn't.

519
00:28:37,935 --> 00:28:39,095
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, And.

520
00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:43,415
Speaker 3: No, you just get a rammer. They're not that expensive.

521
00:28:43,775 --> 00:28:44,535
Speaker 3: Well I suppose they're not.

522
00:28:44,615 --> 00:28:44,935
Speaker 2: I've done.

523
00:28:44,935 --> 00:28:48,695
Speaker 3: I've had mine for fifty years and and I've got

524
00:28:48,695 --> 00:28:50,375
Speaker 3: two of them. When I get down on my knees

525
00:28:50,655 --> 00:28:52,815
Speaker 3: and use a short one, yes, the other one is

526
00:28:53,055 --> 00:28:56,935
Speaker 3: about six foot yep. And I've got a slight bend

527
00:28:56,975 --> 00:28:57,455
Speaker 3: in the pipe.

528
00:28:57,535 --> 00:28:58,175
Speaker 7: I've got a piece of.

529
00:28:58,215 --> 00:29:01,135
Speaker 5: Pipe that'll save your knuckles.

530
00:29:01,775 --> 00:29:05,255
Speaker 3: That's what it was for. So we slight bend and

531
00:29:05,695 --> 00:29:07,855
Speaker 3: and then it comes back into the into the true

532
00:29:07,935 --> 00:29:12,135
Speaker 3: thing again or bent the pipe deliberately fabulous And and

533
00:29:12,295 --> 00:29:15,935
Speaker 3: let's forget the bit bloody con you're going to you're

534
00:29:15,935 --> 00:29:19,655
Speaker 3: going to be throwing posts away, man. Yeah, look, you

535
00:29:20,335 --> 00:29:22,655
Speaker 3: being a Dutchman, don't don't like throwing anything away.

536
00:29:22,735 --> 00:29:28,055
Speaker 5: No, that's true actually, And so you know when you

537
00:29:28,135 --> 00:29:31,575
Speaker 5: were talking about the ramma, I wanted to buy a

538
00:29:31,615 --> 00:29:35,335
Speaker 5: little like a little plate, not a plate compactor, but

539
00:29:35,455 --> 00:29:38,615
Speaker 5: the handheld ones, right, a stomper stamper type thing. And

540
00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:40,415
Speaker 5: I wandered off down to the hardware store and I

541
00:29:40,455 --> 00:29:41,615
Speaker 5: found it and I looked at it and I went,

542
00:29:41,695 --> 00:29:43,175
Speaker 5: hang on, what we're talking about is a bit of

543
00:29:43,295 --> 00:29:46,335
Speaker 5: steel plate one fifty one fifty roughly and a bit

544
00:29:46,415 --> 00:29:50,495
Speaker 5: of steel tube, right, And I'm thinking hang on. So

545
00:29:50,575 --> 00:29:53,135
Speaker 5: I went round the corner to a little metal place,

546
00:29:53,495 --> 00:29:56,415
Speaker 5: got them to make me cut off a section of

547
00:29:56,495 --> 00:30:00,855
Speaker 5: flat into the size that I needed. Fossicking around underneath

548
00:30:00,935 --> 00:30:03,975
Speaker 5: the house, found a bit of pipe, welded that together, Bingo,

549
00:30:04,295 --> 00:30:04,975
Speaker 5: it's done.

550
00:30:06,735 --> 00:30:08,375
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we don't try that on post.

551
00:30:08,495 --> 00:30:09,335
Speaker 3: Get a proper one for you.

552
00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:11,695
Speaker 5: I love the conversation.

553
00:30:11,895 --> 00:30:12,095
Speaker 12: Ross.

554
00:30:12,455 --> 00:30:15,215
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I think it's it's wise advice from

555
00:30:15,215 --> 00:30:17,735
Speaker 5: a man who's done it lots and lots of times.

556
00:30:17,855 --> 00:30:20,735
Speaker 5: Appreciate that. Ross. Thank you very much, Steve. Good morning

557
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:20,935
Speaker 5: to you.

558
00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:24,335
Speaker 12: Good morning Peter.

559
00:30:24,495 --> 00:30:27,935
Speaker 5: Hey Steve, he look got a question.

560
00:30:27,975 --> 00:30:31,495
Speaker 12: We're looking at a property that was built in twoenty

561
00:30:31,895 --> 00:30:36,295
Speaker 12: ten and it has Gerard steel press steel tile that

562
00:30:36,415 --> 00:30:41,255
Speaker 12: have got the stone ship on them. Now, all the

563
00:30:41,335 --> 00:30:44,215
Speaker 12: research I've done online I can't find a confirmation or

564
00:30:44,295 --> 00:30:48,455
Speaker 12: otherwise as to whether at that period of time the

565
00:30:48,575 --> 00:30:53,015
Speaker 12: Gerrard tiles would have had asbestos in their surfacing product.

566
00:30:53,175 --> 00:30:57,775
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know that you'll find a definitive answer.

567
00:30:59,015 --> 00:31:03,095
Speaker 5: So the really the only way of knowing for sure

568
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,535
Speaker 5: is to request the opportunity to take a samples, send

569
00:31:06,575 --> 00:31:08,655
Speaker 5: that away to a lot lab and have it tested.

570
00:31:10,375 --> 00:31:14,575
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, certainly, other than the warnings about the tiles

571
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:17,935
Speaker 12: being easy to damage by walking on in the nails,

572
00:31:18,095 --> 00:31:21,415
Speaker 12: fixing nails coming out, it's all that there is online

573
00:31:21,455 --> 00:31:23,975
Speaker 12: about all those time, and it.

574
00:31:24,015 --> 00:31:26,335
Speaker 5: Would be nice if there was a more definitive answer.

575
00:31:26,455 --> 00:31:30,015
Speaker 5: But you can also understand why there just isn't because

576
00:31:30,215 --> 00:31:33,935
Speaker 5: I think you know, quite possibly, within let's say the

577
00:31:34,055 --> 00:31:38,495
Speaker 5: duration that a product is manufactured, the mixture let's say,

578
00:31:38,695 --> 00:31:41,175
Speaker 5: might change over time, So you might find that that,

579
00:31:42,055 --> 00:31:44,015
Speaker 5: you know, at a certain period of time it may

580
00:31:44,095 --> 00:31:47,855
Speaker 5: have contained ACM or asbestos containing material, and in another

581
00:31:47,975 --> 00:31:51,735
Speaker 5: period of time it might not, so on so forth.

582
00:31:51,855 --> 00:31:54,575
Speaker 5: So I think the only way to be sure is

583
00:31:54,935 --> 00:31:58,815
Speaker 5: if you are thinking, this is a house that you're

584
00:31:58,855 --> 00:32:04,775
Speaker 5: thinking of purchasing, correct, right, you know, like in this market,

585
00:32:05,375 --> 00:32:08,455
Speaker 5: I would have thought that a homeowner wouldn't object to

586
00:32:08,575 --> 00:32:11,455
Speaker 5: the possibility that if you did it your you know,

587
00:32:11,495 --> 00:32:14,415
Speaker 5: if you requested access to the property and requested it

588
00:32:14,895 --> 00:32:18,935
Speaker 5: that you take a sample, that's not an unreasonable request.

589
00:32:20,735 --> 00:32:25,415
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, Unfortunately, the market as it is so quick

590
00:32:25,535 --> 00:32:27,935
Speaker 12: moving that yeah, the property.

591
00:32:27,615 --> 00:32:30,175
Speaker 5: Came on and rights.

592
00:32:31,455 --> 00:32:34,135
Speaker 12: That offers are presented is less than a week that

593
00:32:34,895 --> 00:32:40,015
Speaker 12: pursue all those sensible right at challenging. But anyway, that's

594
00:32:40,215 --> 00:32:41,095
Speaker 12: that's the situation.

595
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:46,295
Speaker 5: I suppose. The other part to this is that in

596
00:32:46,415 --> 00:32:49,815
Speaker 5: and of itself, the fact that you might have a

597
00:32:49,975 --> 00:32:53,135
Speaker 5: roof that may contain some elements of asbestos in it,

598
00:32:53,895 --> 00:32:59,455
Speaker 5: in terms of risk, it's like, there's there's not that

599
00:32:59,655 --> 00:33:01,735
Speaker 5: much risk to you in terms of health risk as

600
00:33:01,775 --> 00:33:04,095
Speaker 5: it is at the moment. But I'm wondering whether what

601
00:33:04,255 --> 00:33:06,775
Speaker 5: your concern is is that at some age when you

602
00:33:06,895 --> 00:33:10,495
Speaker 5: need to replace it, and it's probably getting towards end

603
00:33:10,535 --> 00:33:15,495
Speaker 5: of life, at that point, the replacement becomes considerably more

604
00:33:15,575 --> 00:33:18,975
Speaker 5: expensive because you have to get licensed applicators to remove

605
00:33:20,095 --> 00:33:23,415
Speaker 5: the roof, and you have to pay a particular premium

606
00:33:23,695 --> 00:33:27,375
Speaker 5: for the disposal and so on. So you know what

607
00:33:27,615 --> 00:33:30,415
Speaker 5: might be. And based on a job that I know

608
00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:33,055
Speaker 5: of a couple of years ago, you know, stripping off

609
00:33:33,095 --> 00:33:35,615
Speaker 5: a roof might cost a thousand bucks, it was a

610
00:33:35,735 --> 00:33:40,175
Speaker 5: sixteen thousand dollars job because of the contractors engaged, the

611
00:33:41,015 --> 00:33:45,575
Speaker 5: licensing and the disposal. So that's possibly what you're thinking about.

612
00:33:46,455 --> 00:33:47,895
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

613
00:33:48,055 --> 00:33:52,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, good luck, Thank you all the very best.

614
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:56,375
Speaker 5: Take care, Steve. Interesting to hear his comments about the

615
00:33:56,495 --> 00:34:02,335
Speaker 5: market as well. Given the housing markets being well sluggish

616
00:34:02,695 --> 00:34:08,295
Speaker 5: at best, there does seem to be quite some activity

617
00:34:08,295 --> 00:34:12,455
Speaker 5: at the moment. Seventeen minutes after seven And I love

618
00:34:12,535 --> 00:34:15,335
Speaker 5: people that text in and go hey, because we were

619
00:34:15,375 --> 00:34:19,775
Speaker 5: talking about just before the news my little suggestion that

620
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:23,895
Speaker 5: when you're now this will upset Ross. But if you're

621
00:34:23,935 --> 00:34:26,535
Speaker 5: going to put concrete around a fence post, right so

622
00:34:26,575 --> 00:34:28,615
Speaker 5: you've dug a hole, you're setting up a fence post

623
00:34:28,735 --> 00:34:31,335
Speaker 5: or a post for a retaining wall, something like that,

624
00:34:31,455 --> 00:34:32,855
Speaker 5: or all head of box, doesn't matter what sort of

625
00:34:32,895 --> 00:34:34,815
Speaker 5: post it is. I always make sure that I put

626
00:34:34,975 --> 00:34:39,615
Speaker 5: either an old brick or the first scoop of concrete

627
00:34:39,655 --> 00:34:41,335
Speaker 5: goes into the bottom and then you set your post

628
00:34:41,415 --> 00:34:44,015
Speaker 5: on top of it. That helps seal the bottom. And

629
00:34:44,175 --> 00:34:47,455
Speaker 5: quick as a flash, gentleman texture and says, hey, you

630
00:34:47,495 --> 00:34:50,975
Speaker 5: could suggest space at pile pads. I've had a quick

631
00:34:51,015 --> 00:34:52,775
Speaker 5: look online. I have seen these around. They're like a

632
00:34:52,815 --> 00:34:55,895
Speaker 5: little plastic foot that you can fix to the bottom

633
00:34:55,895 --> 00:34:57,655
Speaker 5: of the post stand. You post up on the end,

634
00:34:57,655 --> 00:35:00,415
Speaker 5: then the concrete goes all the way around it. Yep,

635
00:35:00,535 --> 00:35:03,535
Speaker 5: lifty idea. So space at pile pads is the suggestion.

636
00:35:03,575 --> 00:35:05,015
Speaker 5: I think there's a couple of other brands out there

637
00:35:05,055 --> 00:35:07,495
Speaker 5: as well. But oh on you, thanks for listening to

638
00:35:07,535 --> 00:35:09,775
Speaker 5: the show. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

639
00:35:09,855 --> 00:35:11,535
Speaker 5: number to call. I'll take a short break and then

640
00:35:11,535 --> 00:35:13,255
Speaker 5: I'll be back with Sean in just a moment.

641
00:35:14,015 --> 00:35:16,935
Speaker 4: Viewing other house, storting the garden. Ask Fete for a hand.

642
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643
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644
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Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 10: Rick.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Yes, Rick, how are you?

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Pete. Now there is another thing I just

667
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Speaker 9: wanted to know if you had any ideas, suggestions, knowledge about.

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Speaker 9: We've got a building site running our boundary that's started

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Speaker 9: up with multiple townhouses. They're building out of concrete blocks,

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Speaker 9: but there, unusually to me, mine als cutting the blocks

671
00:37:02,615 --> 00:37:07,295
Speaker 9: and half with sort Yeah, and so the silicus dust

672
00:37:07,655 --> 00:37:11,095
Speaker 9: flying everywhere and cleaning all over our place, and we're

673
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Speaker 9: observing the blot windows, et cetera, et cetera, and keep

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Speaker 9: doors shut. Now they have spoken to the site manager

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00:37:20,095 --> 00:37:24,095
Speaker 9: and they are using and sometimes a concrete source with

676
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Speaker 9: water suppression sometimes but it's not really working. And then

677
00:37:28,455 --> 00:37:31,735
Speaker 9: there's piles of dust on the site which flying everywhere

678
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Speaker 9: as well. So are you gonna know all will have it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's in some ways, like I'm a

680
00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:45,975
Speaker 5: little bit surprised that guys are still cutting their blocks

681
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Speaker 5: without some sort of suppression, right.

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Speaker 9: So they are even if they are, it's not really working.

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00:37:55,095 --> 00:37:56,655
Speaker 9: That's that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I guess there's the other issue too,

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00:37:59,375 --> 00:38:01,575
Speaker 5: which is, okay, so you cut your concrete block with

686
00:38:01,735 --> 00:38:03,695
Speaker 5: a saw and maybe you've got water on it, and

687
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:06,775
Speaker 5: so you're not getting billowing clouds of dust, but eventually

688
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:09,815
Speaker 5: that drops onto the ground and once it dries, you've

689
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Speaker 5: got dust again.

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Speaker 9: Right, and you're certainly getting the billowing and dust because

691
00:38:14,615 --> 00:38:18,895
Speaker 9: it's an open situation and tremendously windy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I guess there's a responsibility on the

693
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Speaker 5: contractor not to, you know, cause a nuisance, right, and

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Speaker 5: billowing clouds of dust are a nuisance.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was silica dust.

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Speaker 5: And it is there is that hazardous element to it

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Speaker 5: as well. To be fair, I don't actually know whether

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Speaker 5: there is a specific guidance. From where I would probably

699
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Speaker 5: start investigating this is to go to the work Safe

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Speaker 5: website and search for their guidance and find whether or

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Speaker 5: not there is a requirement within the work Safe provisions

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Speaker 5: that say, you know, you must control dust and so on.

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Speaker 5: Chances are they won't be the way they have done that.

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Speaker 9: There was a it's pretty complicated, but yeah, it's a

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Speaker 9: hazard and they say that you know, verbally, so well,

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Speaker 9: we're controlling, we're trying. But I mean the site itself

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Speaker 9: is it is it sort of something that you could

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Speaker 9: block off with knitting, you know, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's that's not If you look at

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00:39:35,975 --> 00:39:39,775
Speaker 5: large commercial sites, for example, often they'll hang like a

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00:39:39,895 --> 00:39:43,935
Speaker 5: netting around the perimeter of the scaffold. I've certainly seen.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's plenty, you know how typically most sites

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00:39:47,015 --> 00:39:49,815
Speaker 5: tend to do site fencing, those panels, those mesh panels,

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00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:53,615
Speaker 5: and then you could put you could request that they

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Speaker 5: put up some netting over that fencing that will stop

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00:39:59,775 --> 00:40:02,815
Speaker 5: dust in one area, ask them to move their cutting

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Speaker 5: to one area perhaps, and and put up some site

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Speaker 5: fencing around that to contain it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: there are solutions. It's really just engaging with the contractor

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Speaker 5: and asking them if they could do it. And then

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Speaker 5: I guess if there are incidences where it comes billowing over,

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Speaker 5: capture a photograph of that. You could go to work

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Speaker 5: Safe and say, look, I think that they're not complying

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Speaker 5: with their obligations under the Health and Safety Act, so

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Speaker 5: that that would be discussion first, suggest some solutions, you know,

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Speaker 5: like make if they made an area, let's say, further

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Speaker 5: away from where the wind's blowing, or in a if

728
00:40:42,735 --> 00:40:46,095
Speaker 5: they created a sheltered area that they could then cut

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Speaker 5: in and potentially have a little swale that that material

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Speaker 5: goes into. Yeah, there's kind of no excuse for it,

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Speaker 5: but I also understand that it happens. It's not uncommon

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Speaker 5: on sight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll appreciate the advice.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all the best, Yeah, take care of all the best.

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Speaker 5: I think a couple of weeks ago I made the

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Speaker 5: comment disregarding building inspectors, as in council building inspectors not

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Speaker 5: always commenting on the quality of let's say, workmanship on site.

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Speaker 5: And I got a text actually during the week one

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Speaker 5: of the guys must have found my number somewhere and

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Speaker 5: flip me a text to my phone saying, hey, look,

741
00:41:25,775 --> 00:41:28,255
Speaker 5: not completely true. If we go to a site as

742
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Speaker 5: a council building inspector and it is in disarray, you know,

743
00:41:32,815 --> 00:41:35,295
Speaker 5: there's materials all over the place and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 5: we will on occasion refuse to undertake the inspection because

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Speaker 5: of the site conditions. I'm like, good on you, And

746
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Speaker 5: that wasn't what I was commenting on. And to be fair,

747
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Speaker 5: like I went and had to look at a new

748
00:41:51,095 --> 00:41:54,815
Speaker 5: build the other day that had recently been issued a

749
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Speaker 5: code of compliance, and yet I found fault with any

750
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Speaker 5: number of workmanship issues, including nails popping on the cladding,

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Speaker 5: cavity clothses being filled with silicon boards already popping, and

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Speaker 5: so on, uneven cutting, you know, flashings that were incorrectly installed,

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Speaker 5: Flashings that didn't cover a box corner that then got

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Speaker 5: verified by another guy who came to do a pre

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Speaker 5: purchase inspection. So you know, I mean, these are some

756
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:27,255
Speaker 5: of those things could be workmanship issues, and council don't

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00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:28,975
Speaker 5: always pick them up on it, So a bit of

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00:42:29,055 --> 00:42:31,295
Speaker 5: a balancing game. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call quick text as well. Pete,

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Speaker 5: what do I do if my neighbor refuses to help

761
00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:40,095
Speaker 5: pay for a retaining wall that's leaning over my driveway

762
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Speaker 5: from his property? He says, the developer who subdivided the

763
00:42:43,295 --> 00:42:46,455
Speaker 5: property is to blame. That was twenty five years ago

764
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Speaker 5: when neither of us owned our respective properties. The quotes

765
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Speaker 5: four and a half thousand dollars. We need some help

766
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Speaker 5: from him. His section is very water logged in winter

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Speaker 5: and oozers moisture in winter, effectively rotting the post. What's

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Speaker 5: your advice? He's getting quite nasty, Kate. It's a horrible

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Speaker 5: situation to be and it really depends on where the

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Speaker 5: retaining wall is located, i e. Is it on your

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Speaker 5: side of the boundary or on their side of the boundary?

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Speaker 5: And then the other question is who benefits from the wall?

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Speaker 5: So was the wall installed so that the neighbor could

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Speaker 5: level their section, let's say, in which case the benefit

775
00:43:25,335 --> 00:43:30,015
Speaker 5: is theirs and they are responsible for it regardless, or

776
00:43:31,095 --> 00:43:34,175
Speaker 5: is the wall on your side of the boundary and

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00:43:34,895 --> 00:43:38,615
Speaker 5: the previous owner benefited from it by being able to

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00:43:38,695 --> 00:43:42,215
Speaker 5: excavate down. So it's really where is the retaining wall

779
00:43:42,495 --> 00:43:45,735
Speaker 5: located in relation to the boundary and who gets the

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00:43:45,775 --> 00:43:47,775
Speaker 5: benefit of it. And the fact that somebody built it

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00:43:47,815 --> 00:43:52,215
Speaker 5: twenty five years ago doesn't take any responsibility away from

782
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Speaker 5: the owner. If they've got something that's unsafe, then they

783
00:43:56,175 --> 00:43:59,255
Speaker 5: are going to be responsible for it. If they're getting nasty,

784
00:43:59,335 --> 00:44:01,495
Speaker 5: then maybe it's time to go to your lawyer and

785
00:44:01,775 --> 00:44:05,735
Speaker 5: just remind them of their responsibilities under the Property Act.

786
00:44:05,815 --> 00:44:09,655
Speaker 5: Good luck that. Let me see who do we need

787
00:44:09,695 --> 00:44:13,335
Speaker 5: to talk to next. Let's talk to Owen, good morning, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: I'm just interested of work in the area of health

791
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Speaker 2: and safety, auditing and consulting. And it's interested to hear

792
00:44:21,615 --> 00:44:24,735
Speaker 2: someone saying that they had a construction work going on

793
00:44:24,895 --> 00:44:29,215
Speaker 2: next door it was in a silica dust or coming across.

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Speaker 2: The people who are doing this haven't got a leg

795
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Speaker 2: to stand on. There is work safe guidance is even

796
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Speaker 2: available in multiple languages and under the Health and Safety

797
00:44:39,935 --> 00:44:43,175
Speaker 2: at Work Act. Anything you're doing in a workplace, you've

798
00:44:43,255 --> 00:44:46,415
Speaker 2: got to even if there wasn't a specific a guidance

799
00:44:46,495 --> 00:44:49,735
Speaker 2: on it, you have to assess potential risk and you

800
00:44:49,935 --> 00:44:53,855
Speaker 2: can control it. And the first thing is to eliminate

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00:44:53,935 --> 00:44:56,495
Speaker 2: it do another way, and after that you've got various

802
00:44:56,615 --> 00:45:01,535
Speaker 2: means of control. And basically the chap who called, if

803
00:45:01,535 --> 00:45:02,975
Speaker 2: you had to have a talk with him and say, look,

804
00:45:03,015 --> 00:45:05,015
Speaker 2: you know, you could go into this great cycle of

805
00:45:06,455 --> 00:45:09,055
Speaker 2: so I've been contacted. You're having to have all your

806
00:45:09,575 --> 00:45:12,095
Speaker 2: work has tested, the health monitoring and all the other

807
00:45:12,175 --> 00:45:15,015
Speaker 2: things you should be doing, or you could just stop

808
00:45:15,135 --> 00:45:17,895
Speaker 2: doing it, and you know you should do it wet

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00:45:18,015 --> 00:45:21,935
Speaker 2: and stop sending the dust over the fence, because you're right.

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Speaker 5: Often with these sorts of things. People's responses often oh, well,

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Speaker 5: that's just what it is, right, or this is how

812
00:45:28,135 --> 00:45:30,815
Speaker 5: I've always done it. But the reality is that in

813
00:45:30,935 --> 00:45:34,415
Speaker 5: most cases there are controls available for almost all of

814
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Speaker 5: this sort of hazardous work, and it's just a basically

815
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Speaker 5: lack of interest or a blatant disregard for anybody else

816
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Speaker 5: that allows people just to carry on, you know, like

817
00:45:46,695 --> 00:45:48,695
Speaker 5: I say, with no regard. But you're right, there are

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Speaker 5: controls and there are ways of doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose you do.

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00:45:54,775 --> 00:45:54,935
Speaker 9: You do.

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Speaker 2: I can either do it the easy way or the

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00:45:57,175 --> 00:46:00,015
Speaker 2: hard way, and the easy ways to stop and do

823
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Speaker 2: it right and the hard ways for the work they

824
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Speaker 2: to be called, and there's nothing wrong with calling work.

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00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:07,935
Speaker 2: That's what they're it's what they're there for. Therefore, and

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00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:13,735
Speaker 2: you're also protecting the lives of the workers on the

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Speaker 2: site too, because if they're operating like that, it's not

828
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Speaker 2: going to be safe for them. But you know, neighbors

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Speaker 2: are neighbors are important. And then as soon as you

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Speaker 2: go from you know, everyone is that, particularly if there's

831
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Speaker 2: kids around or anything, that we've just got to protect them.

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Speaker 2: It's a charity too.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting too, and you would have picked up on this.

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Speaker 5: The I was going to say the new it's not

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Speaker 5: so new now Code of Ethics for LBPS, which came

836
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Speaker 5: in what was it, October twenty twenty two. So if

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Speaker 5: you're a licensed building practitioner, there's a code of ethics.

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Speaker 5: It's divided into four areas. One of those areas is

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Speaker 5: to work safely and then within that guidance, it also

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Speaker 5: says that as LBPS, now we have an obligation to

841
00:46:59,255 --> 00:47:05,095
Speaker 5: essentially be involved in, you know, intervening when we see

842
00:47:05,415 --> 00:47:09,095
Speaker 5: other unsaved work. And it's a really interesting one because

843
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Speaker 5: you know, I've had a couple of discussions with people going, okay,

844
00:47:11,935 --> 00:47:14,655
Speaker 5: so I'm an LBP, I'm working on site, and let's

845
00:47:14,655 --> 00:47:16,975
Speaker 5: say the block he is there and his boys or

846
00:47:17,495 --> 00:47:21,735
Speaker 5: whatever cutting blocks with a diamond blade. They've got no suppression.

847
00:47:22,095 --> 00:47:23,815
Speaker 5: They might not be wearing air muffs, they might not

848
00:47:23,895 --> 00:47:26,255
Speaker 5: be wearing a dust mask, that sort of thing. Now,

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00:47:26,455 --> 00:47:30,295
Speaker 5: if I read the legislation right, I actually it's my

850
00:47:30,415 --> 00:47:33,575
Speaker 5: obligation to go over and go, hey, guys, this is

851
00:47:33,695 --> 00:47:38,135
Speaker 5: not good enough. Now that might produce a result that

852
00:47:38,815 --> 00:47:43,735
Speaker 5: is fairly abrupt. You know, it is now an obligation

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00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:46,215
Speaker 5: on the part of LBPS. So even if it's not

854
00:47:46,375 --> 00:47:49,415
Speaker 5: your contractors, right, so you know I might be there

855
00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:54,335
Speaker 5: as the carpentry LBP with with my team or just myself,

856
00:47:54,455 --> 00:47:58,175
Speaker 5: but if I see anyone else working unsafely, I have

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Speaker 5: an obligation now under the Code of Ethics to inform them.

858
00:48:03,775 --> 00:48:06,615
Speaker 2: Yes, it's basically tell you you can't turn them blind

859
00:48:06,695 --> 00:48:12,535
Speaker 2: by thank you very much every week and I'm looking

860
00:48:12,575 --> 00:48:15,455
Speaker 2: forward to that rascally that's from coming on too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

861
00:48:15,335 --> 00:48:18,095
Speaker 5: Eight thirty not too far away, al you look after yourself?

862
00:48:18,135 --> 00:48:20,535
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

863
00:48:20,575 --> 00:48:23,855
Speaker 5: to call. Hey, look, it's just a heads up if

864
00:48:23,895 --> 00:48:26,455
Speaker 5: you're looking for something to do today and who doesn't

865
00:48:26,575 --> 00:48:27,615
Speaker 5: like a good school fair?

866
00:48:28,015 --> 00:48:28,175
Speaker 3: Right?

867
00:48:29,455 --> 00:48:32,615
Speaker 5: So you could tootle on down to Devenport the Saint

868
00:48:32,735 --> 00:48:37,335
Speaker 5: Leo's School Fair on today in Devenport. So where Owen's

869
00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:40,775
Speaker 5: Road Victoria Road just opposite the church on the way

870
00:48:40,815 --> 00:48:44,815
Speaker 5: into Devenport. Saint Leo's School Fair ten o'clock today through

871
00:48:44,855 --> 00:48:48,615
Speaker 5: little two o'clock. It'll be great. Food's awesome and well

872
00:48:48,695 --> 00:48:50,815
Speaker 5: my Plinko game you'd have to have a crack at that.

873
00:48:52,015 --> 00:48:54,775
Speaker 5: I don't think lock my producer still fully comprehends the

874
00:48:54,895 --> 00:48:57,655
Speaker 5: complexity of the Plinko game. To be fair, I don't

875
00:48:57,695 --> 00:48:59,295
Speaker 5: know what the rules are, but I made it and

876
00:48:59,415 --> 00:49:01,055
Speaker 5: it was a lot of fun making it. It is

877
00:49:01,095 --> 00:49:02,975
Speaker 5: seven thirty five here at New Stalks. B will come

878
00:49:03,015 --> 00:49:03,455
Speaker 5: back in a moment.

879
00:49:03,575 --> 00:49:05,775
Speaker 1: Talk to Carol whether you're paid in the ceiling fix

880
00:49:05,975 --> 00:49:08,415
Speaker 1: with fair or wondering how to fix that hole in

881
00:49:08,455 --> 00:49:08,775
Speaker 1: the wall.

882
00:49:08,815 --> 00:49:13,495
Speaker 4: Do you have Peedo wolf cavicle on the resident builder

883
00:49:13,615 --> 00:49:14,615
Speaker 4: on youth dogs.

884
00:49:14,535 --> 00:49:18,735
Speaker 5: B righty oh gee. A bunch of texts that are

885
00:49:18,775 --> 00:49:21,575
Speaker 5: coming in as well. Now, someone makes a good point,

886
00:49:21,855 --> 00:49:23,935
Speaker 5: a little bit more research on this. Blocks in New

887
00:49:24,015 --> 00:49:28,335
Speaker 5: Zealand do not use silicon sand. The sand itself is harmless.

888
00:49:28,495 --> 00:49:31,415
Speaker 5: It's the dust that's a nuisance. So the idea that

889
00:49:31,615 --> 00:49:34,095
Speaker 5: inhaling it is going to cause some sort of long

890
00:49:34,255 --> 00:49:39,175
Speaker 5: term injury. I mean, look, inhaling dust isn't great, but

891
00:49:39,975 --> 00:49:42,335
Speaker 5: whether or not the silica which is you know the

892
00:49:42,935 --> 00:49:47,015
Speaker 5: I suppose where this concern has come from is in Australia,

893
00:49:47,055 --> 00:49:52,375
Speaker 5: in particular the whole engineered stone bench top industry, where

894
00:49:52,695 --> 00:49:55,895
Speaker 5: there was insufficient controls and people have ended up with

895
00:49:56,015 --> 00:50:01,615
Speaker 5: silicosis as a result of inhaling a harmful material. That

896
00:50:01,895 --> 00:50:04,855
Speaker 5: might not be the same as cutting a concrete block,

897
00:50:04,975 --> 00:50:06,775
Speaker 5: or it isn't the same as cutting con block and

898
00:50:06,855 --> 00:50:10,095
Speaker 5: causing dust. But look, I tell you what, here's my

899
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:13,215
Speaker 5: reflection on you know, a number of years decades in

900
00:50:13,295 --> 00:50:18,615
Speaker 5: the industry. If I'm working in a dusty environment, I

901
00:50:18,815 --> 00:50:20,775
Speaker 5: feel rubbish at the end of the day. And a

902
00:50:20,815 --> 00:50:24,775
Speaker 5: few years ago after you know, Hunteen years building and

903
00:50:25,095 --> 00:50:27,855
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, and not always being particularly diligent

904
00:50:27,975 --> 00:50:29,695
Speaker 5: around that, I thought, well, hang on, you know, every

905
00:50:29,775 --> 00:50:31,015
Speaker 5: now and then I get up in the morning and

906
00:50:31,055 --> 00:50:34,055
Speaker 5: I cough and splutter a bit and so on. You know,

907
00:50:34,095 --> 00:50:37,015
Speaker 5: I should go and get myself checked out. So went

908
00:50:37,175 --> 00:50:39,415
Speaker 5: and had a talk to my doctor, went and had

909
00:50:39,455 --> 00:50:42,815
Speaker 5: a chest X ray, just to sort of set a

910
00:50:42,895 --> 00:50:44,975
Speaker 5: benchline to go. You know, is there something that I

911
00:50:45,055 --> 00:50:48,135
Speaker 5: should be concerned about years of breathing and all sorts

912
00:50:48,175 --> 00:50:51,375
Speaker 5: of dust from all sorts of different materials. Is there

913
00:50:51,455 --> 00:50:54,655
Speaker 5: a genuine concern? And part of this is also prompted

914
00:50:54,735 --> 00:50:57,855
Speaker 5: by research I know, done by work Safe, which says, look,

915
00:50:58,255 --> 00:51:02,535
Speaker 5: you know, we've probably got about unfortunately, about seventy or

916
00:51:02,615 --> 00:51:06,935
Speaker 5: eighty workplace deaths a year, not just from construction in general,

917
00:51:06,975 --> 00:51:12,535
Speaker 5: people dying at work, but around they used to make

918
00:51:12,695 --> 00:51:15,135
Speaker 5: sort of five to six hundred people a year will

919
00:51:15,175 --> 00:51:20,855
Speaker 5: have their lives shortened by long term, prolonged injurious exposure

920
00:51:20,935 --> 00:51:26,775
Speaker 5: to dust in the workplace. So making you know, putting

921
00:51:26,855 --> 00:51:30,455
Speaker 5: controls in place, having extraction on your tools, these sorts

922
00:51:30,495 --> 00:51:34,135
Speaker 5: of things, it makes a lot of sense in terms

923
00:51:34,135 --> 00:51:36,215
Speaker 5: of your long term health. And certainly if I look

924
00:51:36,255 --> 00:51:39,295
Speaker 5: in my workshop now, for example, I've got a drop

925
00:51:39,335 --> 00:51:42,455
Speaker 5: saw set up, and I've got extraction that's hooked up

926
00:51:42,495 --> 00:51:44,975
Speaker 5: to that. So I've got a little, not a terribly

927
00:51:45,015 --> 00:51:47,415
Speaker 5: expensive we have a little vacuum cleaner that's permanently hooked

928
00:51:47,495 --> 00:51:49,295
Speaker 5: up to the drop saw. And then I've got a

929
00:51:49,415 --> 00:51:51,335
Speaker 5: tray at the back of the drop saw that I

930
00:51:51,375 --> 00:51:54,135
Speaker 5: can plug another vacuum cleaner into just to suck up

931
00:51:54,175 --> 00:51:57,295
Speaker 5: all of that dust when I'm sanding. Now I've got

932
00:51:57,335 --> 00:52:00,335
Speaker 5: this elaborate collection of various little hoses and bits and

933
00:52:00,415 --> 00:52:03,255
Speaker 5: pieces that I can plug into the port on a sander,

934
00:52:03,295 --> 00:52:05,895
Speaker 5: whether it's a random orbital or about sander or whatever,

935
00:52:06,695 --> 00:52:11,295
Speaker 5: that goes straight to extraction. And it just makes the

936
00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:15,975
Speaker 5: work environment so much more pleasant and hopefully reduce the

937
00:52:16,975 --> 00:52:19,615
Speaker 5: possibility for some sort of long term injury as a

938
00:52:19,655 --> 00:52:23,655
Speaker 5: result of exposure to dust. So you know, why wouldn't

939
00:52:23,695 --> 00:52:26,335
Speaker 5: you put in place those proper controls. Oh eight hundred

940
00:52:26,335 --> 00:52:28,255
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty the number to call Cara. Good morning,

941
00:52:29,695 --> 00:52:31,495
Speaker 5: Good morning, Hello Carol.

942
00:52:31,575 --> 00:52:34,735
Speaker 13: I'm so pleased to hear about the fen scene. Yes,

943
00:52:34,935 --> 00:52:39,495
Speaker 13: can you recommend I'll look here at all and unfortunately

944
00:52:39,895 --> 00:52:42,455
Speaker 13: my husband dies are I'll look after it myself.

945
00:52:42,455 --> 00:52:43,335
Speaker 5: You're sitting enough.

946
00:52:43,615 --> 00:52:46,255
Speaker 13: Company they can give me advice. And I quote for

947
00:52:46,335 --> 00:52:51,455
Speaker 13: building a privacy fence between two townhouses. And this is

948
00:52:51,495 --> 00:52:53,295
Speaker 13: a bit of a joke, but it's true. I don't

949
00:52:53,375 --> 00:52:55,135
Speaker 13: want wooden fence with coasts.

950
00:52:56,295 --> 00:53:00,415
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. Look in

951
00:53:00,535 --> 00:53:02,695
Speaker 5: terms of a contractor in your area. I'm not sure

952
00:53:02,735 --> 00:53:04,615
Speaker 5: that I can help you out, just because I don't

953
00:53:04,655 --> 00:53:07,855
Speaker 5: know enough people. But what I have found really interesting

954
00:53:07,975 --> 00:53:11,415
Speaker 5: to see is there's a lot of gosh, I remember

955
00:53:11,575 --> 00:53:14,895
Speaker 5: my dad doing it almost fifty years ago, concrete posts

956
00:53:14,935 --> 00:53:18,095
Speaker 5: and concrete panels. You could go for a block wall.

957
00:53:18,335 --> 00:53:22,295
Speaker 5: There's metal posts and panels that I've seen installed. There's

958
00:53:22,495 --> 00:53:27,695
Speaker 5: UTV and something that's have a look of blender, have

959
00:53:27,815 --> 00:53:31,295
Speaker 5: a look for some of the PVC component systems that

960
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:34,535
Speaker 5: are out there at the moment as well, which are

961
00:53:34,855 --> 00:53:37,175
Speaker 5: quite intriguing in terms of you know, not having to

962
00:53:37,535 --> 00:53:40,855
Speaker 5: paint them and mineral maintenance and those sorts of things.

963
00:53:40,895 --> 00:53:44,135
Speaker 5: So there are a range of options for you these days, Carol.

964
00:53:45,215 --> 00:53:47,895
Speaker 13: Where would I don't know where to stop, I don't

965
00:53:47,895 --> 00:53:51,575
Speaker 13: know this and retire about who trust?

966
00:53:51,775 --> 00:53:54,015
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it. I wonder whether I tell you

967
00:53:54,135 --> 00:53:56,895
Speaker 5: what if you This has often been my advice. One

968
00:53:57,015 --> 00:54:00,455
Speaker 5: is drive around if you see a job that you like,

969
00:54:00,615 --> 00:54:03,015
Speaker 5: knock on the door and say who did that. The

970
00:54:03,095 --> 00:54:08,015
Speaker 5: other optionists go to your local building merchant and say, hey,

971
00:54:08,055 --> 00:54:10,415
Speaker 5: look do you have some local you know some fencing

972
00:54:10,495 --> 00:54:13,375
Speaker 5: contractors that come in here that you know their work

973
00:54:13,495 --> 00:54:17,055
Speaker 5: is good, and they'll they'll soon know again, particularly if

974
00:54:17,095 --> 00:54:19,415
Speaker 5: you go and find the gray headed ones at the

975
00:54:19,415 --> 00:54:24,895
Speaker 5: back of the workshop, they'll know. And that's probably my

976
00:54:24,975 --> 00:54:25,535
Speaker 5: best advice.

977
00:54:26,535 --> 00:54:29,375
Speaker 3: That's it's because I do know some reliable daughters.

978
00:54:30,175 --> 00:54:31,775
Speaker 13: Great show, Thank you lovely.

979
00:54:31,615 --> 00:54:33,895
Speaker 5: To talk all the very best to you, Carol. Take care.

980
00:54:33,975 --> 00:54:36,855
Speaker 5: Then now we're going to be talking with Todd Maitland.

981
00:54:36,895 --> 00:54:40,335
Speaker 5: Todd Maitland's a young guy who is involved in concreting

982
00:54:40,815 --> 00:54:43,655
Speaker 5: and has won the Apprentice of the Year, an award

983
00:54:43,855 --> 00:54:47,455
Speaker 5: in the Apprentice. So we're talking concrete. Before eight o'clock

984
00:54:47,455 --> 00:54:50,655
Speaker 5: we're all going to talk to Ralph Kessel who's from

985
00:54:50,735 --> 00:54:55,055
Speaker 5: Concrete and z. I never know where we go on

986
00:54:55,175 --> 00:54:56,935
Speaker 5: the show, which is part of the attraction for me

987
00:54:57,095 --> 00:54:59,895
Speaker 5: doing the show. But it has been a fairly solid

988
00:55:00,215 --> 00:55:03,135
Speaker 5: show today talking a lot about concrete. Oh eight hundred

989
00:55:03,175 --> 00:55:07,015
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call allan

990
00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:10,095
Speaker 5: good morning to you, Good morning Pete.

991
00:55:10,815 --> 00:55:13,615
Speaker 14: But I've got a twenty seven year old money year

992
00:55:13,815 --> 00:55:17,935
Speaker 14: tile play tile roof. We've had a branch come down

993
00:55:17,975 --> 00:55:20,375
Speaker 14: and break a corner tapping where it meets ball in

994
00:55:20,495 --> 00:55:25,095
Speaker 14: the in the roof, and I've run the money year.

995
00:55:25,175 --> 00:55:28,775
Speaker 14: I've been rung a lot of demolition places and roofers

996
00:55:28,815 --> 00:55:31,815
Speaker 14: and that, and I can't seem to find these tiles right.

997
00:55:33,215 --> 00:55:34,615
Speaker 7: Just wanting with any options or.

998
00:55:34,615 --> 00:55:35,415
Speaker 14: Anything you can think of.

999
00:55:35,895 --> 00:55:36,215
Speaker 1: Have you.

1000
00:55:38,215 --> 00:55:44,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, have you tried Mike at north Shore Demolition. Interestingly enough,

1001
00:55:44,175 --> 00:55:48,095
Speaker 5: north Shore Demolition has the yard in Avondale, but it's

1002
00:55:48,135 --> 00:55:51,935
Speaker 5: still called north Shore Demolition. Have a look online north

1003
00:55:51,975 --> 00:55:55,535
Speaker 5: Shore Demolition. Find Mike's number, give him a call. I

1004
00:55:55,695 --> 00:55:58,415
Speaker 5: know because I was in the yard not that long ago,

1005
00:55:58,495 --> 00:56:01,535
Speaker 5: that he's got a reasonably good collection of those sorts

1006
00:56:01,575 --> 00:56:02,135
Speaker 5: of materials.

1007
00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:04,215
Speaker 7: That's awesome.

1008
00:56:04,255 --> 00:56:05,655
Speaker 14: Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

1009
00:56:05,735 --> 00:56:11,255
Speaker 5: All the very best. Good luck, take care. By the way, see,

1010
00:56:11,295 --> 00:56:13,055
Speaker 5: back in the day, there used to be demolition yards

1011
00:56:13,095 --> 00:56:16,055
Speaker 5: all around the place in the central city. In fact,

1012
00:56:16,095 --> 00:56:18,655
Speaker 5: I'm going to catch up with guys that I went

1013
00:56:18,655 --> 00:56:21,455
Speaker 5: to school with this week. We do it once a

1014
00:56:21,575 --> 00:56:24,935
Speaker 5: year long story at the Horse and Trap, the Horse

1015
00:56:24,935 --> 00:56:27,895
Speaker 5: and Traps in eden Terrace that used to be a

1016
00:56:27,935 --> 00:56:32,015
Speaker 5: demolition yard. Back in the day. There used to be

1017
00:56:32,015 --> 00:56:34,095
Speaker 5: a couple on Great North Road. They were all around

1018
00:56:34,135 --> 00:56:36,655
Speaker 5: the place, but there was a great one on Pirana Road,

1019
00:56:36,735 --> 00:56:39,815
Speaker 5: timber recyclers. But they've all had to sort of move

1020
00:56:39,935 --> 00:56:43,095
Speaker 5: out of the Central city unfortunately, but they are around

1021
00:56:43,295 --> 00:56:46,735
Speaker 5: and if you're looking for roof tiles, Mike north Shore

1022
00:56:46,735 --> 00:56:49,015
Speaker 5: Demolition might be able to help you out there as well.

1023
00:56:49,455 --> 00:56:53,935
Speaker 5: Righty oh, we will take another break in just a moment. Also,

1024
00:56:54,175 --> 00:56:56,735
Speaker 5: just on the school fair thing. And you know, if

1025
00:56:56,815 --> 00:56:59,175
Speaker 5: you've been involved in school fares, you rely on the

1026
00:56:59,215 --> 00:57:03,215
Speaker 5: community to help out. So about a month out from

1027
00:57:03,255 --> 00:57:05,895
Speaker 5: the school fair, I get an email typically that goes, hey,

1028
00:57:05,935 --> 00:57:08,775
Speaker 5: could you go and organize that generator again? And so

1029
00:57:09,015 --> 00:57:13,775
Speaker 5: then I immediately phone Riggsy at high Pool and god mate,

1030
00:57:13,815 --> 00:57:15,695
Speaker 5: it's that time of year again. Can I come and

1031
00:57:15,775 --> 00:57:19,215
Speaker 5: pick up a trailer mounted generator for the school fair?

1032
00:57:19,415 --> 00:57:21,775
Speaker 5: And he writes out the paperwork and I race out

1033
00:57:21,855 --> 00:57:25,455
Speaker 5: to high Pool on the Friday toe the generator back

1034
00:57:26,135 --> 00:57:28,655
Speaker 5: and the bits and pieces for it. So again, you know,

1035
00:57:28,855 --> 00:57:32,455
Speaker 5: these community events only happen with the supporter businesses, and

1036
00:57:32,895 --> 00:57:35,895
Speaker 5: my thanks to Highpool for their help, their continuous help

1037
00:57:36,015 --> 00:57:38,895
Speaker 5: over many many years, and undoubtedly next year about this

1038
00:57:39,015 --> 00:57:41,295
Speaker 5: time I'll give you a call again. It is seven

1039
00:57:41,335 --> 00:57:41,855
Speaker 5: forty five.

1040
00:57:42,855 --> 00:57:46,455
Speaker 1: Squeaky Door or Squeaky floor Get the right advice from

1041
00:57:46,535 --> 00:57:49,735
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcap, the resident builder on Newstalk SEB.

1042
00:57:51,335 --> 00:57:54,015
Speaker 5: I'm really enjoying, I guess part of the show which

1043
00:57:54,055 --> 00:57:57,375
Speaker 5: allows me to shine the light on some outstanding young

1044
00:57:57,455 --> 00:58:00,175
Speaker 5: people that are coming through. We have the opportunity to

1045
00:58:00,295 --> 00:58:06,535
Speaker 5: interview the Master Builders Apprentices of the Year and so

1046
00:58:07,095 --> 00:58:09,295
Speaker 5: it's a great pleasure to welcome to the show this

1047
00:58:09,455 --> 00:58:14,335
Speaker 5: morning Todd Maitland, who has recently been recognized for his

1048
00:58:14,695 --> 00:58:18,935
Speaker 5: contribution or his endeavors in terms of the concrete industry

1049
00:58:19,335 --> 00:58:24,775
Speaker 5: by becoming the basically Concrete Apprentice of the Year as

1050
00:58:24,855 --> 00:58:28,655
Speaker 5: recognized through the BCO training program. So a very good

1051
00:58:28,735 --> 00:58:32,135
Speaker 5: morning to you, Todd, Good morning morning.

1052
00:58:32,575 --> 00:58:32,735
Speaker 15: Hey.

1053
00:58:33,175 --> 00:58:38,095
Speaker 5: First up, congratulations, because I know these apprenticeship awards are

1054
00:58:38,175 --> 00:58:42,415
Speaker 5: not easily awarded. You have to work pretty hard and

1055
00:58:42,495 --> 00:58:46,135
Speaker 5: you really have to be outstanding. Can you tell me

1056
00:58:46,175 --> 00:58:48,295
Speaker 5: a little bit about your sort of journey through your

1057
00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:53,095
Speaker 5: apprenticeship and you know, I understand that you've faced a

1058
00:58:53,175 --> 00:58:57,255
Speaker 5: few challenges in terms of getting into work and then

1059
00:58:57,775 --> 00:59:00,295
Speaker 5: working you way through the learning. Tell us a little

1060
00:59:00,295 --> 00:59:02,975
Speaker 5: bit about what draw you to or drew you to

1061
00:59:03,255 --> 00:59:05,415
Speaker 5: construction into concreting in the first place.

1062
00:59:09,415 --> 00:59:16,735
Speaker 15: Just working work experience. I was at school one off

1063
00:59:16,775 --> 00:59:22,215
Speaker 15: I a friend of mine. She asked me to come

1064
00:59:22,735 --> 00:59:26,615
Speaker 15: work for her dad for work experience, which I did

1065
00:59:27,775 --> 00:59:34,495
Speaker 15: and been working full primal concrete like every Friday for

1066
00:59:34,655 --> 00:59:40,015
Speaker 15: work experience. And as soon as I finished it school

1067
00:59:40,135 --> 00:59:44,095
Speaker 15: and then I asked the boss to aver to work

1068
00:59:44,135 --> 00:59:48,295
Speaker 15: with him full time and he said chill fame, and

1069
00:59:48,695 --> 00:59:56,575
Speaker 15: that's when it all happens and signs me up for

1070
00:59:56,655 --> 01:00:01,255
Speaker 15: the apprenticeships.

1071
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Speaker 5: So this is Rick's your boss at brown More Concrete.

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01:00:08,695 --> 01:00:08,935
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And in terms of getting through the I suppose the

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01:00:14,455 --> 01:00:16,775
Speaker 5: academic or the learning part of the b C I

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01:00:16,895 --> 01:00:21,135
Speaker 5: t O apprenticeship scheme. Did some people help you to

1076
01:00:21,215 --> 01:00:21,735
Speaker 5: get through that?

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01:00:23,815 --> 01:00:24,015
Speaker 15: Yeah?

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01:00:25,935 --> 01:00:27,135
Speaker 11: Yeah, I have.

1079
01:00:29,015 --> 01:00:38,775
Speaker 15: Autisms and visibility and alongside with learning difficulty and why

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01:00:38,895 --> 01:00:48,335
Speaker 15: I only right and BCTL basically helped me from through

1081
01:00:48,415 --> 01:00:52,975
Speaker 15: all these times and years for effort to to get

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01:00:53,015 --> 01:00:54,535
Speaker 15: to the stage at where I'm at.

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01:00:57,335 --> 01:01:00,135
Speaker 5: And I guess it's one of those things that given

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01:01:00,415 --> 01:01:02,815
Speaker 5: the you know, it's it's not unfair to say, given

1085
01:01:02,855 --> 01:01:06,455
Speaker 5: the challenges that you've got, you need someone to work

1086
01:01:06,455 --> 01:01:09,735
Speaker 5: alongside you. But they've done that, and at the end

1087
01:01:09,775 --> 01:01:11,775
Speaker 5: of it, you've got to a place where you can

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Speaker 5: be Apprentice of the Year, which is an amazing achievement.

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Speaker 9: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: And outside of work, tell me a little bit about this.

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Speaker 5: You're the vice captain of New Zealand's first Whakaha men's

1092
01:01:25,335 --> 01:01:29,535
Speaker 5: basketball team, so this is for athletes with some intellectual

1093
01:01:29,575 --> 01:01:33,055
Speaker 5: disability and you've competed internationally. What's your role there?

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01:01:36,295 --> 01:01:38,135
Speaker 9: Yeah, and.

1095
01:01:40,775 --> 01:01:44,735
Speaker 15: I've been there. That was like you said February, Yes,

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01:01:45,375 --> 01:01:48,615
Speaker 15: we're in Australia and I was the chosen to be

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Speaker 15: the vice captain.

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Speaker 10: And now.

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Speaker 15: Since this time we did the second trials and already

1100
01:01:58,855 --> 01:02:00,855
Speaker 15: made it take a time for the ends at our

1101
01:02:01,015 --> 01:02:09,815
Speaker 15: men's team and into the overseas. Yes, for next year,

1102
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:15,135
Speaker 15: for for Australia, for foot Locker Championship.

1103
01:02:16,055 --> 01:02:20,255
Speaker 5: That's that's really awesome. And in terms of like going

1104
01:02:20,295 --> 01:02:23,375
Speaker 5: back to the work stuff, are you guys finding this

1105
01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:26,175
Speaker 5: plenty of work because it's been a pretty tough time

1106
01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:30,095
Speaker 5: in the industry over the last couple of years. Does

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01:02:30,175 --> 01:02:31,895
Speaker 5: it feel like it's packing up a little bit? Have

1108
01:02:31,935 --> 01:02:32,775
Speaker 5: you got plenty to do?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 15: We have for any to do, like non stop every

1111
01:02:38,855 --> 01:02:44,735
Speaker 15: day ever since, like winning the Prince Concord the year

1112
01:02:45,175 --> 01:02:48,855
Speaker 15: and be on the show and all that stuff. Now

1113
01:02:49,095 --> 01:02:52,815
Speaker 15: just feels like all the gets a people intention to

1114
01:02:55,095 --> 01:02:58,695
Speaker 15: bringing my boss for us, all these concrete driveways and

1115
01:02:58,895 --> 01:03:02,415
Speaker 15: almost all those things. So that's why we have non

1116
01:03:02,575 --> 01:03:03,855
Speaker 15: stop like every day.

1117
01:03:04,735 --> 01:03:06,895
Speaker 5: Maybe you'd be a great person they have on the

1118
01:03:06,975 --> 01:03:09,535
Speaker 5: team and I really appreciate you spending of it a

1119
01:03:09,655 --> 01:03:11,415
Speaker 5: time with us. I know it's early on a Sunday

1120
01:03:11,495 --> 01:03:14,255
Speaker 5: morning and we've all got other things to do. But

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01:03:14,455 --> 01:03:20,295
Speaker 5: Todd congratulations, it's a tremendous award and really appreciate you

1122
01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:21,895
Speaker 5: spending some time with us this morning.

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01:03:23,015 --> 01:03:24,535
Speaker 8: No, thank you, really appreciate it.

1124
01:03:24,815 --> 01:03:26,815
Speaker 5: Nice one, Take care Todd, all the very best to

1125
01:03:26,855 --> 01:03:30,215
Speaker 5: you your new stalk set B and if you want to.

1126
01:03:30,935 --> 01:03:33,495
Speaker 5: It's just such a fantastic achievement. So that's young Todd

1127
01:03:34,015 --> 01:03:36,935
Speaker 5: Maitland who has been awarded as the sort of concrete

1128
01:03:36,935 --> 01:03:39,375
Speaker 5: Apprentice of the year. That's through the bcit O training

1129
01:03:40,015 --> 01:03:43,655
Speaker 5: and again acknowledgment and that to Rex his boss at

1130
01:03:43,735 --> 01:03:48,495
Speaker 5: Brownmore Contracting, sounds like there's plenty of work and plenty

1131
01:03:48,495 --> 01:03:51,015
Speaker 5: of opportunities for a young fella, and as you heard there,

1132
01:03:51,335 --> 01:03:54,735
Speaker 5: he's got some challenges. And good on BCITO who have

1133
01:03:55,215 --> 01:03:58,375
Speaker 5: become a lot more nuanced in terms of accepting that

1134
01:03:58,495 --> 01:04:00,295
Speaker 5: some of the young people that they'll be working with

1135
01:04:00,535 --> 01:04:03,775
Speaker 5: don't learn like other young people do, but they figured

1136
01:04:03,815 --> 01:04:07,615
Speaker 5: out ways of working with them to a really good result.

1137
01:04:07,975 --> 01:04:10,655
Speaker 5: Your News Talk ZB News at eight o'clock.

1138
01:04:13,655 --> 01:04:17,175
Speaker 1: Frek helping you get those DIY projects done right. The

1139
01:04:17,375 --> 01:04:22,335
Speaker 1: resident builder with Vieta Wolfcat call Oh eight us talk ZB.

1140
01:04:23,415 --> 01:04:25,575
Speaker 5: You a news Talk ZB it is actually I've got

1141
01:04:25,615 --> 01:04:27,295
Speaker 5: my time wrong before the news. Not to worry. It

1142
01:04:27,415 --> 01:04:30,415
Speaker 5: is now, I can assure you six minutes after eight

1143
01:04:30,535 --> 01:04:32,815
Speaker 5: here at News Talk CB. This is the resident Builder

1144
01:04:32,895 --> 01:04:35,495
Speaker 5: on Sunday. One of the great delights of the show

1145
01:04:35,655 --> 01:04:39,375
Speaker 5: is generally that I don't know necessarily where we're going

1146
01:04:39,455 --> 01:04:41,655
Speaker 5: to end up. Well, I kind of did, because I

1147
01:04:41,735 --> 01:04:44,535
Speaker 5: knew that I wanted to chat with before the news Todd,

1148
01:04:44,975 --> 01:04:49,655
Speaker 5: who's the Concrete Apprentice of the Year through the BCITO program.

1149
01:04:50,775 --> 01:04:52,655
Speaker 5: And I'd also had an opportunity to line up an

1150
01:04:52,695 --> 01:04:55,895
Speaker 5: interview with our next guest, who is Ralph Cassel from

1151
01:04:55,975 --> 01:04:58,135
Speaker 5: Concrete n Z, to talk a little bit about concrete.

1152
01:04:58,655 --> 01:05:00,535
Speaker 5: But I didn't know that during the show we would

1153
01:05:00,535 --> 01:05:03,495
Speaker 5: spend so much time talking about concrete and fence posts

1154
01:05:03,655 --> 01:05:06,015
Speaker 5: and how to mix good concrete and those sorts of things.

1155
01:05:06,055 --> 01:05:08,535
Speaker 5: But the this is one of the delights of the show,

1156
01:05:08,775 --> 01:05:11,175
Speaker 5: so we will be talking concrete in just a moment.

1157
01:05:11,935 --> 01:05:14,055
Speaker 5: Also a couple of quick texts that I do want

1158
01:05:14,095 --> 01:05:19,015
Speaker 5: to reply to, including this one quickly morning Pete from

1159
01:05:19,055 --> 01:05:21,575
Speaker 5: Bill wanting to buy a house that has a roof

1160
01:05:21,615 --> 01:05:24,375
Speaker 5: built in nineteen sixty two or the house is nineteen

1161
01:05:24,415 --> 01:05:28,055
Speaker 5: sixty two, the roof has got krrigaid iron with leadhead screws.

1162
01:05:28,815 --> 01:05:31,095
Speaker 5: Should I just take those out and replace them, or

1163
01:05:31,695 --> 01:05:34,375
Speaker 5: what you know, should the whole roof be replaced? I

1164
01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:38,895
Speaker 5: think Bill, you're probably getting close to replacement. Nineteen sixty

1165
01:05:40,135 --> 01:05:42,855
Speaker 5: it's close to when I was born. It's probably due

1166
01:05:42,895 --> 01:05:45,495
Speaker 5: for a replacement. So I would look at replacing that.

1167
01:05:46,615 --> 01:05:50,215
Speaker 5: And what's the text there that I wanted to get to.

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01:05:50,975 --> 01:05:52,855
Speaker 5: Now this is an interesting one because we've been talking

1169
01:05:52,895 --> 01:05:55,695
Speaker 5: a little bit about the quality of workmanship and in

1170
01:05:55,815 --> 01:05:58,895
Speaker 5: some cases buildings perhaps that get a code of compliance

1171
01:05:58,975 --> 01:06:00,855
Speaker 5: but maybe are not as good as they should be.

1172
01:06:01,815 --> 01:06:04,935
Speaker 5: If you're looking to have someone professionally do a building survey,

1173
01:06:05,855 --> 01:06:08,655
Speaker 5: particularly in terms of compliance, then you're probably looking for

1174
01:06:09,255 --> 01:06:11,415
Speaker 5: a building surveyors, so a member of the New Zealand

1175
01:06:11,455 --> 01:06:13,935
Speaker 5: Institute of Building Surveyors or Boys or one of these

1176
01:06:14,015 --> 01:06:20,535
Speaker 5: professional organizations who will have a qualification to do that. So, Kate,

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01:06:21,695 --> 01:06:25,015
Speaker 5: that might be of interest to you this with regard

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01:06:25,095 --> 01:06:27,375
Speaker 5: to the new build with a CCC. But you've still

1179
01:06:27,415 --> 01:06:30,095
Speaker 5: got some concerns, but it is good that you've at

1180
01:06:30,175 --> 01:06:32,255
Speaker 5: least the house is part of one of the sort

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Speaker 5: of warranty schemes that's out there.

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Speaker 4: Righty oh.

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Speaker 5: In all of the years that I've been doing the show,

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01:06:37,135 --> 01:06:39,655
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that we've ever had the opportunity to

1185
01:06:39,775 --> 01:06:43,975
Speaker 5: take a deep dive into concrete, but we have been

1186
01:06:44,015 --> 01:06:47,215
Speaker 5: talking about it, and so it is my great pleasure

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Speaker 5: to welcome to the program this morning, Ralph Kessel from Concrete,

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Speaker 5: New Zealand. A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 7: Ralph, You good morning, Pete. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: It's a pleasure. And you know, a question that I

1191
01:06:58,295 --> 01:07:01,335
Speaker 5: don't know that I've ever had the opportunity to ask

1192
01:07:01,535 --> 01:07:03,775
Speaker 5: someone is what is concrete?

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01:07:05,095 --> 01:07:09,415
Speaker 7: Well, concrete is basically rock, it's water and cement. So

1194
01:07:09,535 --> 01:07:11,695
Speaker 7: it's rock, water and cement. The rock in form of

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01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:15,215
Speaker 7: scent and pebbles that make about seventy to seventy five

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01:07:15,255 --> 01:07:19,215
Speaker 7: percent of the mix, then water ten percent and cement

1197
01:07:19,495 --> 01:07:25,135
Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty percent depending on the strength. That's basically concrete, and.

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Speaker 5: It is an ancient technology. We were talking about this

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01:07:27,895 --> 01:07:30,615
Speaker 5: the other day that you know, the Romans seem to

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01:07:30,735 --> 01:07:33,375
Speaker 5: be the ones who developed concrete in the first place,

1201
01:07:33,775 --> 01:07:36,495
Speaker 5: and obviously some of what they built with concrete still

1202
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Speaker 5: exists today.

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01:07:38,135 --> 01:07:41,575
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, concrete has been used for thousands of years,

1204
01:07:42,095 --> 01:07:45,935
Speaker 7: which I'd say, are the testament to its sustainability credentials.

1205
01:07:46,335 --> 01:07:48,695
Speaker 7: Look at the panzelone in Rome, for example, at two

1206
01:07:48,775 --> 01:07:51,775
Speaker 7: thousand years old, built with concrete walls and floors, and

1207
01:07:52,015 --> 01:07:56,895
Speaker 7: it's stunning, forty two meters spanning concrete. It is standing

1208
01:07:56,975 --> 01:08:00,855
Speaker 7: and in use today. But you are correct. I think

1209
01:08:00,975 --> 01:08:03,855
Speaker 7: at the moment the concrete industry faces a major shift

1210
01:08:04,015 --> 01:08:05,895
Speaker 7: driven by decommonization goals.

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01:08:06,655 --> 01:08:09,495
Speaker 5: Because this is you know, within that sort of you know,

1212
01:08:09,575 --> 01:08:12,455
Speaker 5: the sustainability space. It's fair to say that lots of

1213
01:08:12,495 --> 01:08:15,215
Speaker 5: people that want green buildings tend to look at concrete

1214
01:08:15,255 --> 01:08:18,735
Speaker 5: and go basically, you're part of the problem, not part

1215
01:08:18,815 --> 01:08:22,215
Speaker 5: of the solution. But things are changing. So the way

1216
01:08:22,255 --> 01:08:25,655
Speaker 5: in which we make concrete today and the various components

1217
01:08:25,735 --> 01:08:28,895
Speaker 5: that go on to it, what's that significant shift there?

1218
01:08:30,495 --> 01:08:33,175
Speaker 7: Well, maybe if we should point out to our listeners

1219
01:08:33,335 --> 01:08:36,695
Speaker 7: first that concrete is responsible for around seven to eight

1220
01:08:36,735 --> 01:08:40,695
Speaker 7: percent of all global emissions. And yeah, but this is

1221
01:08:40,775 --> 01:08:44,575
Speaker 7: because it's the most used material globally after water. So

1222
01:08:44,735 --> 01:08:48,335
Speaker 7: concrete in itself is a low carbon material, but because

1223
01:08:48,415 --> 01:08:52,175
Speaker 7: of the sheer quantity, there are considerable emissions. And these

1224
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:55,335
Speaker 7: emissions are firstly coming from a chemical process when we

1225
01:08:55,455 --> 01:08:58,975
Speaker 7: eat the limestone to gain the cement, and here CEO

1226
01:08:59,095 --> 01:09:02,695
Speaker 7: two is freed and technically from burning coal to eat

1227
01:09:02,735 --> 01:09:07,375
Speaker 7: their cares. And of the emissions associated with con cement

1228
01:09:07,575 --> 01:09:10,575
Speaker 7: is responsible for around eighty five percent. So it's a

1229
01:09:10,615 --> 01:09:13,735
Speaker 7: good idea to your question. Now, it's a good idea

1230
01:09:13,895 --> 01:09:17,775
Speaker 7: to reduce emissions from cement production or replace cement, and

1231
01:09:17,935 --> 01:09:23,095
Speaker 7: our concrete members are doing exactly that. So all members

1232
01:09:23,135 --> 01:09:27,415
Speaker 7: have begun to replace cement by supplementary matitia materials such

1233
01:09:27,495 --> 01:09:32,335
Speaker 7: as fly ash or slag which are a byproducts bomb

1234
01:09:32,415 --> 01:09:36,575
Speaker 7: from industries which otherwise would go to landfill. But we're

1235
01:09:36,575 --> 01:09:40,295
Speaker 7: also looking at volcanic material, which is the natural material

1236
01:09:40,935 --> 01:09:45,215
Speaker 7: very similar to what the Romans have used. We see

1237
01:09:45,575 --> 01:09:49,135
Speaker 7: halsam for example, holsome cements that bring in we slag,

1238
01:09:49,335 --> 01:09:53,255
Speaker 7: golden based cement. They have already reduced fifty percent of

1239
01:09:53,335 --> 01:09:56,175
Speaker 7: the coal used to fire the kiln by waste timber, waste,

1240
01:09:56,495 --> 01:10:00,615
Speaker 7: waste plastic or car tires. And then we have Harke dement.

1241
01:10:01,135 --> 01:10:03,375
Speaker 7: They have a modern mill where the blend cement with

1242
01:10:03,495 --> 01:10:07,175
Speaker 7: low carbon cement alternatives. We are on a good way

1243
01:10:07,335 --> 01:10:11,575
Speaker 7: to achieve the concrete industry's vision of carbon reduction by

1244
01:10:12,415 --> 01:10:17,335
Speaker 7: of for twenty thirty and then we aim to get

1245
01:10:17,495 --> 01:10:20,975
Speaker 7: to net zero carbon by twenty fifty. This is then

1246
01:10:21,015 --> 01:10:24,295
Speaker 7: in accordance with our road map. We have created a

1247
01:10:24,375 --> 01:10:29,095
Speaker 7: roadmap and the industry fully stands behind it. And this

1248
01:10:29,575 --> 01:10:33,575
Speaker 7: roadmap has actually been recognized and praised by the International

1249
01:10:33,695 --> 01:10:35,495
Speaker 7: Panel of Climate Change. So we are on a good

1250
01:10:35,735 --> 01:10:41,335
Speaker 7: traction there. And there are also other things coming up

1251
01:10:41,855 --> 01:10:44,775
Speaker 7: at the moment. At University of Auckland, there's some research

1252
01:10:44,935 --> 01:10:51,935
Speaker 7: done promising research done with fine ground seashells of sea

1253
01:10:51,975 --> 01:10:56,455
Speaker 7: shell is a remainder from food processing and those shells

1254
01:10:56,495 --> 01:11:00,335
Speaker 7: would other miles pile up on landfills. Its base material

1255
01:11:00,415 --> 01:11:05,295
Speaker 7: is limestone, also the main main ingredient of cment, and

1256
01:11:06,895 --> 01:11:09,735
Speaker 7: and with this material we definitely have another alternative to

1257
01:11:09,855 --> 01:11:13,215
Speaker 7: replace cement. But it's maybe a bit longer answer than

1258
01:11:13,255 --> 01:11:13,615
Speaker 7: you wanted.

1259
01:11:13,935 --> 01:11:16,455
Speaker 5: No, No, it's you know, I mean, this is the thing.

1260
01:11:16,575 --> 01:11:21,135
Speaker 5: Sometimes we're looking for quick solutions, but these things don't

1261
01:11:21,255 --> 01:11:24,215
Speaker 5: typically exist, and so it's the nuance and it's the

1262
01:11:24,375 --> 01:11:27,215
Speaker 5: research that's going into it that makes it so interesting.

1263
01:11:27,495 --> 01:11:29,495
Speaker 5: Someone has just text through and said, look, I understand

1264
01:11:29,535 --> 01:11:34,135
Speaker 5: there is now concrete that's made without using cement. Is

1265
01:11:34,255 --> 01:11:36,775
Speaker 5: that true or are we just the way in which

1266
01:11:36,815 --> 01:11:39,415
Speaker 5: we manufacture cement has changed now.

1267
01:11:40,095 --> 01:11:44,415
Speaker 7: Yes, oversee it has been done. There are definitely a

1268
01:11:44,695 --> 01:11:48,335
Speaker 7: concrete without any cement where we only rely on supplements

1269
01:11:48,855 --> 01:11:51,295
Speaker 7: such as fly ash saw, a mixed orf fly ash

1270
01:11:51,375 --> 01:11:54,095
Speaker 7: flag and a bit of a cunning material maybe added

1271
01:11:54,175 --> 01:11:58,095
Speaker 7: gips and so there are possibilities already there, but you

1272
01:11:58,175 --> 01:12:00,855
Speaker 7: have to understand that industries have to adapt, have to

1273
01:12:00,975 --> 01:12:04,935
Speaker 7: have the correct silos and plant in place. Yes, before

1274
01:12:05,015 --> 01:12:07,895
Speaker 7: that happenspit it will happen. And then on the other hand,

1275
01:12:07,935 --> 01:12:12,175
Speaker 7: there's also a first plant now which is Norway in Brevericks,

1276
01:12:12,255 --> 01:12:16,735
Speaker 7: where we have direct capture of the carbon dioxide which

1277
01:12:16,935 --> 01:12:21,135
Speaker 7: is emitted on site on the cement facility, and these

1278
01:12:21,255 --> 01:12:27,175
Speaker 7: carbon dioxide quantities are going into depleted oil and guess

1279
01:12:27,335 --> 01:12:31,375
Speaker 7: reservoirs and you a very natural chemical process. The carbon

1280
01:12:31,415 --> 01:12:36,815
Speaker 7: dioxide finds calcium and a bit more oxide oxygen and

1281
01:12:36,975 --> 01:12:41,415
Speaker 7: that creates c AC three, which is calcium carbonate or

1282
01:12:41,495 --> 01:12:47,375
Speaker 7: in short, limestone. So just just real retransformed into rocks

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Speaker 7: in a natural way, the carbon dioxide. So it happens

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Speaker 7: at the moment in Europe and New Zealand is always

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Speaker 7: a little bit behind in some of the things because

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Speaker 7: we are just a small economy here, but we definitely

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Speaker 7: will be getting there as well.

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Speaker 5: And then there's also that question. There's a building right

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Speaker 5: outside our studio which is probably a nineteen fifties concrete

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Speaker 5: constructed building which is being demolished at the moment. But

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Speaker 5: if you look at that and go, okay, so what

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Speaker 5: happens to that material in this instance here I suspect

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Speaker 5: that most of it is going to be in a

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Speaker 5: sense recycled. You know, the beams will be crushed, the

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Speaker 5: steel will be extracted, and the material will go to

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Speaker 5: as hard fill. And so there is a challenge in

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Speaker 5: New Zealand around recycling concrete for use in new concrete,

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Speaker 5: isn't there We haven't quite cracked that.

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Speaker 7: Well. You can do with that, but you have to

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Speaker 7: be sure that you separate the sementitious part from the pabbles.

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Speaker 7: And then again if you don't know the exact source

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Speaker 7: of the tablets, yes that much to understand what a

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Speaker 7: mixed design you get out of it. Because what we

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Speaker 7: must consider as concrete to players, we have to suffice

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Speaker 7: the target strength of the engine. We have to get

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Speaker 7: to engineer the absolute hunderd percent certainty that the concrete

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Speaker 7: will perform as the structural engineer specifies. That is really important,

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Speaker 7: and that's maybe a little bit more tricky, but you're

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Speaker 7: absolutely right. A crush concrete is used for hard fare,

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Speaker 7: for draining, a back fither, for subpases, et cetera. So

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Speaker 7: it definitely has a use. It's not waste.

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Speaker 5: And then one of the other innovations that I was

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Speaker 5: made aware of just recently is permeable concrete. So this

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Speaker 5: is maybe for a driveway where you know, typically you

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Speaker 5: don't want to just shed all of that water into

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Speaker 5: storm water, so you can it can percolate through. So

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Speaker 5: tell us about permeable concrete.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there are two ways. So there's the first most

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Speaker 7: pervious concrete, which is a concrete which has poores to

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Speaker 7: let water through basically, and there's all the permial paving,

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Speaker 7: which are a concrete paving block on the water in

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Speaker 7: a trades through those gaps. And at the moment, there

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Speaker 7: are requirements with the councils of a and Wellington Council

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Speaker 7: requested at least thirty percent of a development section let's

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Speaker 7: say medium density housing or there ay twenty units on

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Speaker 7: two thousand square meters, thirty percent of that land has

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Speaker 7: to be permeable.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 7: The water does not go into the sewery system, but

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Speaker 7: just into the ground directly. And if you pack your

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Speaker 7: side with buildings and you still need driveways to and walkways,

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Speaker 7: then the only solution is really pervious or permeable concrete

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Speaker 7: to allow for all that water going through. I think

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Speaker 7: Autland Council requests twelve hundred liter per square meter per

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Speaker 7: hour to be penetrated on side, and the spermial paving

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Speaker 7: that achieves about eighteen thousands, so that's quite a bit more.

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Speaker 7: That's very very good, and it has the high potential

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Speaker 7: of being taken up simply for flood mitigation as well.

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Speaker 7: So if the water can go directly into the ground

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Speaker 7: rather than gathering or collecting on an infirm of the

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Speaker 7: surface upfront, that definitely mitigates or sort of flooding issues.

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Speaker 5: I hope that for listeners it's one of those things

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Speaker 5: that you know, you're driving on the motorway and you

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Speaker 5: see the concrete truck going past, or you're driving along

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Speaker 5: a building site. In fact, there's one just up the

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Speaker 5: road from me that've been boxing and prayer prepping for

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Speaker 5: the slab, and I presume they must have poured it yesterday,

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Speaker 5: because when I drove by this morning, there's a new

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Speaker 5: concrete slab for a whole bunch of townhouses. And we

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Speaker 5: tend to look at it and just go, it's concrete, right,

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Speaker 5: But it's it is obviously so much more and there's

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Speaker 5: so much more technology and chemistry behind the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely, and it's fantastic material. I mean I personally,

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Speaker 7: I am passionate about it. An architects in thirty five

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Speaker 7: years yep, and architects. There are many reasons why architects

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01:16:58,215 --> 01:17:00,815
Speaker 7: love concrete. It's the one stop shop. What that means

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01:17:01,015 --> 01:17:04,455
Speaker 7: is simply my use of concrete. You comply with many

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01:17:04,535 --> 01:17:09,055
Speaker 7: building cold classes in one role. Structural stability, durability, with

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Speaker 7: fire safety, sound protection, you name it. And concrete is shapeable.

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Speaker 7: If you look around, there are some beautiful concrete buildings.

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Speaker 7: We always hear concrete's gray boring. It's really absolutely believe

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Speaker 7: this a lot. And I understand this because sometimes you

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Speaker 7: will really just want the top benefits of the concrete,

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Speaker 7: the stability, the durability, and then you make it monolithic.

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Speaker 7: Looking the other way, if you happen to be in Auckland. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, for example Point Resolution Bridge. There underneath you

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Speaker 7: see this beautiful maor repatterns Grave stunning. In Wellington here

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Speaker 7: we have the du Cultural Center where we have this

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Speaker 7: engraved maor repatterns. Again Otaki the Designers Institute now poor

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Speaker 7: poorer Institute queens down the retaining walls. So if you

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Speaker 7: make an effort, you can make concrete very appealing, very

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01:18:03,855 --> 01:18:05,135
Speaker 7: beautiful as well. In Grave.

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Speaker 5: I was looking at a house it's won an Architecture

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Speaker 5: award in Point Chev in Auckland, where they've cast the

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Speaker 5: concrete into a mold and it has like a slightly

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Speaker 5: three D textured surface to it. It looks absolutely stunning. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and there's me happily doing my six to one mix

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Speaker 5: and my wheelbarrow and it works there, and then it

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01:18:27,335 --> 01:18:30,095
Speaker 5: works on these massive high rise and I know the

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Speaker 5: guy who's one of the engineers for the Sky Sky Tower,

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Speaker 5: you know. And I look at that as an example

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Speaker 5: of the durability and the strength of concrete and its beauty.

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Speaker 5: And I saw it last night on the ferry heading

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Speaker 5: home and I'm thinking, actually it's quite a beautiful building.

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Speaker 5: Ralph thank you very much for your time. We'll get

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Speaker 5: you back on the show because we've had a whole

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Speaker 5: bunch of questions about it, so there's obviously some interest

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01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:56,215
Speaker 5: to know more about concrete. A great opening segment. Really

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Speaker 5: appreciate it, and thanks very much for your time this Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: All the best stealth Take care, Ralph Cassel from Concrete,

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Speaker 5: New Zealand. It is quite an exciting jo and look,

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Speaker 5: I'm incredibly fortunate that I've had the opportunity to stand

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Speaker 5: underneath that dome in Rome of in the Parthenon Pantheon.

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Speaker 5: Rather it is a just such a fabulous, fabulous building

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Speaker 5: and yeah, two thousand years old, still going strong. Twenty

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Speaker 5: one minutes after eight red climb passed at eight thirty

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Speaker 5: taking a short break.

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Speaker 4: Still Charged for Life News Talk ZB right.

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Speaker 5: Oh, a couple of texts before we go. Lots and

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Speaker 5: lots of questions for Ralph, which is great because I

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Speaker 5: think we'll get Ralph back on the show. If you

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Speaker 5: want to have a look at what they do. Excuse me.

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Speaker 5: Just in terms of concrete in z really simple concrete

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Speaker 5: in z dot org dot NZ. You'll find the website there,

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Speaker 5: so people have text through questions like hey, we could

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Speaker 5: ask him his opinion about using concrete for roadings. So

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Speaker 5: if you've ever been to the States, they seem to

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01:21:05,855 --> 01:21:08,455
Speaker 5: do a lot roading and concrete, but typically we don't

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01:21:08,535 --> 01:21:11,695
Speaker 5: do a lot of it here. Although the new Eastern

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Speaker 5: Busway seems to have a solid concrete base to it

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Speaker 5: with ashfelt over the top. Someone's TechEd through from phil

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Speaker 5: Am I correct in saying that the Hoover dam that

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Speaker 5: use so much concrete that it's still curing. I reckon

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01:21:26,095 --> 01:21:29,335
Speaker 5: Ralph would know the answer to that. Concrete mate without

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01:21:29,375 --> 01:21:33,455
Speaker 5: cement and this self healing concrete that the Romans developed

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Speaker 5: as well, So I reckon we'll get Ralph back on

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Speaker 5: the show. A couple of other texts that have come

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Speaker 5: through this morning. Pete, I'm installing JIB onto solid wood

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01:21:44,095 --> 01:21:47,335
Speaker 5: walls in a lockwood home. The sheets are very tight

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01:21:47,735 --> 01:21:50,935
Speaker 5: fits into the grooves around the windows, and it's very

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01:21:51,055 --> 01:21:53,815
Speaker 5: hard to fit. Is it necessary to use glue and screws?

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01:21:53,975 --> 01:21:58,455
Speaker 5: Can I put extra screws into compensate? Gluing is always

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01:21:58,495 --> 01:22:01,895
Speaker 5: a good idea with fixing plasterboard because the screws can

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01:22:02,495 --> 01:22:06,015
Speaker 5: if it dries out, can pop. So typically blue fixing

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01:22:06,135 --> 01:22:09,815
Speaker 5: is way to do it. Screws and if you want to,

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01:22:09,975 --> 01:22:12,855
Speaker 5: but they may move over time so I tend to

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01:22:12,935 --> 01:22:15,375
Speaker 5: go and then you want to hold the board back,

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01:22:15,455 --> 01:22:18,775
Speaker 5: so I tend to do dobs of glue adhesive onto

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01:22:18,815 --> 01:22:23,135
Speaker 5: the wall and then put a screw in through a

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01:22:23,215 --> 01:22:25,295
Speaker 5: block and then take that out and just stop the hole.

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01:22:25,375 --> 01:22:27,695
Speaker 5: But you don't leave the screw and long term is

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01:22:27,935 --> 01:22:32,295
Speaker 5: typically what I've been doing. A couple of texts about

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01:22:34,935 --> 01:22:37,895
Speaker 5: we mentioned setting up fence posts and my little tip,

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01:22:38,015 --> 01:22:39,495
Speaker 5: which is to make sure you put a little bit

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01:22:39,535 --> 01:22:41,135
Speaker 5: of concrete at the bottom of the hole and then

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01:22:41,175 --> 01:22:43,215
Speaker 5: put the post on there rather than having the post

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01:22:43,255 --> 01:22:47,855
Speaker 5: sitting hard down on the clay. And then there are

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01:22:47,935 --> 01:22:50,055
Speaker 5: some sort of plastic feet that you can get for them,

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01:22:51,135 --> 01:22:52,855
Speaker 5: or you can just throw a brick in there as well.

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Speaker 5: So we talked about that. And then here we go,

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Speaker 5: new concrete path poured by a professional company. When it's dried,

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Speaker 5: there's been a disfiguration on the patch, irregular in shape.

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Speaker 5: How can I get rid of it? I would go

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01:23:08,695 --> 01:23:10,895
Speaker 5: back to the people that poured it and ask them

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01:23:10,935 --> 01:23:13,455
Speaker 5: to come and sort that out. That's a text from

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Speaker 5: a wee while ago. And then some interesting ones around

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Speaker 5: cracking and why concrete cracks. So I reckon we'll get

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Speaker 5: Ralph back on the show at some stage to talk

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Speaker 5: a little bit about concrete radio. Let's jump into the garden.

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Speaker 5: The red kline past is standing by if you've got

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Speaker 5: a gardening question. And Root has now moved into not

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Speaker 5: just being fantastic gardener, an entomologist ecologist. He's also a

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Speaker 5: recipe maker because he's done the research and sent me

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Speaker 5: a recipe for some sort of juice zut that you

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Speaker 5: could add into a bottle, hang in the tree and

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Speaker 5: it will deal to these hornets. Apparently. I know it's

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Speaker 5: a bit of an Auckland story. My apologies for this.

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Speaker 5: Two additional nests have been found in Glenfield here in Auckland.

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Speaker 5: So we'll talk to Rut about hornets, recipes and whatever

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Speaker 5: questions you might have for it. You can call us now.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 4: Doing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete.

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